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<v Speaker 1>The right quot.

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers Playoff Baseball is back, and with it an annual

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<v Speaker 2>postseason tradition.

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<v Speaker 1>Scam is back.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Sax and Cakes in the a app BA

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<v Speaker 2>go with Proway. Dodger legend Steve Sacks is joined by

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<v Speaker 2>your favorite Dodger pregame host, Tim Kates. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk Dodgers, get in on the show on eighty

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<v Speaker 2>six six nine eighty seven two five seven now. While

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<v Speaker 2>the Dan Patrick Show streams on the Ihearts radio app.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been banished to the Internet until this Dodgers playoff

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<v Speaker 2>run concludes. Here they are broadcasting live on AM five

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<v Speaker 2>to seven LA Sports. It's Tim Kates and Steve sachs.

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<v Speaker 1>Our three of SAX and the Kates and the Am

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<v Speaker 1>here on AMPI seventy LA Sports on this Tuesday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>October twenty second. Thanks for being with us, make your

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<v Speaker 1>way to work. If you're already at your job and

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<v Speaker 1>joining a little scam on a Tuesday morning to get

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<v Speaker 1>you through the day taking the kids to school. We

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you taking us with you on your ride. Hey Tim,

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<v Speaker 1>this Tuesday morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Steven, Well we'll let you know that, Okay, scam's

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<v Speaker 3>out there. I mean, I'm getting like text messages, I

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<v Speaker 3>get phone calls from people, say hey, and they're not

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<v Speaker 3>even around here, They're not even California. I was less

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<v Speaker 3>you guys on ihearted. Yeah, I love your show. I

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<v Speaker 3>love Scam Scam scam.

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<v Speaker 1>It's getting popular. It's very popular. I love running to

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<v Speaker 1>people that love listening to it. It's Dodger fans's way

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<v Speaker 1>to just to kind of keep talking Dodgers baseball through

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<v Speaker 1>October when there's so much else happening the football seasons underway.

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<v Speaker 1>College football is certainly going on, but Dodger fans want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk Dodgers baseball. Dodger fans want to hear what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. They want to relive some of the great moments,

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<v Speaker 1>as we're doing with the game one flashback this morning

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<v Speaker 1>from the nineteen eighty one World Series, the last time

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<v Speaker 1>these two teams meet. We'll do games two and three tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Royce will join us, coming up in about twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's I'm just thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, no game, okay, would the show be vibrant,

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<v Speaker 3>would it be fun? Would there be interesting things that

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<v Speaker 3>we need? Two more hours? Yeah, I mean I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's there's lots of stuff to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a whole bunch to get into, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Yankees are working out today. We'll get more out of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna hear from Max Mounsey, Freddie Freeman hopefully an

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<v Speaker 1>update on his ankle, and Dave Roberts later on today.

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<v Speaker 1>They are expected to talk to the media, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have that for you tomorrow. Game one is Friday night,

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<v Speaker 1>first pitch at five oh eight. If you're asking Steven

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<v Speaker 1>Sacks for tickets, don't bother. Nope, don't bother. Don't even

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<v Speaker 1>just delete the text, don't even fire off the email.

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<v Speaker 1>Just act like you aren't even gonna do it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be better off. Maybe, just maybe, if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>text Saxy, just say hey, Hope, you're well. Good to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your voice on the air in Los Angeles again

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<v Speaker 1>here in October, and we'll just just leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And please, I mean, don't go way out there

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<v Speaker 3>and say, uh, you know any show Hay Jersey, I really,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I haven't even met show Heo Tani before. Really, No,

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<v Speaker 3>haven't met him.

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<v Speaker 1>We got anything? You know what, Stephen? You need to

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<v Speaker 1>come down to La for this World series.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, let's yeah, I would, I would do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we got to get you thrown out the

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<v Speaker 1>first pitch at a game. I mean, I gotta talked

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<v Speaker 1>to Steve Brenner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or or Carry Osborne, one of the two.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get this done. Let's get you out there. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get you.

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<v Speaker 3>And I together, you know. I mean I need to

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<v Speaker 3>I need to spruce up my my uh my, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you call it? My social media a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>My daughter does it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But nonetheless, yeah, I mean he's only played in Anaheim

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<v Speaker 1>for six years, so you did have six years in Anaheim.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you what's gonna happen is he's he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>bust out, like if he wins the MVP Award, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna have his interpreter up there, and he's just

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<v Speaker 3>gonna stand in front of the interpreter and just talk

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<v Speaker 3>just like we are, I mean, with perfect clarity, with

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<v Speaker 3>whole time. He's gonna bust out with a long, long

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<v Speaker 3>Dia tribe, you know, making the transition from Anaheim up

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<v Speaker 3>to Los Angeles and different leagues, and now it's culminated

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<v Speaker 3>in all the contract and now he's won the MVP

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<v Speaker 3>of the Series or whatever something like that. But how

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<v Speaker 3>about if he did that in his his language was

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<v Speaker 3>just perfect. I think he was dropping word smithy words,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like whatever, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be pretty awesome if he did that.

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<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't that be cool?

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<v Speaker 1>It would be just jaw dropping for everybody in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, what, Well, Actually, a lot of MLB network

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to say that the pitching staff he

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<v Speaker 3>or this league is completely antithetical to what we have

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<v Speaker 3>because they challenge you more.

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<v Speaker 1>They started doing that, people would flip out. Be great,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be awesome. I'm looking at the back cover

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<v Speaker 1>of the New York Post today, the sports section, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking about the Knick starting their season. They got

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<v Speaker 1>a post NBA preview, but also their headline is on

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<v Speaker 1>one side of Totani and Bets. On the other side

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<v Speaker 1>it's Judge and so, and the headline says Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>Yankees Dodgers World Series filled with big contracts and bigger names.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw Star Wars. I thought it was good

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<v Speaker 1>versus evil, like you know the well.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a there's a there's a little you know inclination. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>think yeah, I think I think so yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's it's right there in front of you

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<v Speaker 1>and it hits you right in the face. Yeah, these

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<v Speaker 1>are huge stars. Alana Rizzo said it perfectly. Outside of

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Trout, you got every star in baseball that people

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<v Speaker 1>know playing in this series on the biggest stage.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. The crazy thing is if you if you

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<v Speaker 3>asked Hollywood to write a script and you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>big baseball story and it comes to the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the season, and then you put the players and all this,

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<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't even buy it. They'd say, hey, it's it's phony.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not real, right, you know, that's that's not gonna fly.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody'd buy that. Here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, we are the two biggest franchises in baseball, two

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<v Speaker 1>biggest payrolls, near the top of baseball, with the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>stars on full display globally. Beginning on Friday night, we

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the Yankees going through a workout. Let's check in

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<v Speaker 1>with the Yankees manager Aaron Boone. Southern California product, went

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<v Speaker 1>the USC. Now he's managing the bad guys over there

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<v Speaker 1>at the evil Empire known as the New York Yankees.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's his thoughts going into Game one.

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<v Speaker 4>The closeness that these guys have with one another, and

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<v Speaker 4>that trite playing for one another is palpable with this group,

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<v Speaker 4>has been all year, has been since day one. These

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<v Speaker 4>guys love each other, and these guys love doing it

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<v Speaker 4>for one another. And I always feel like the best

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<v Speaker 4>team situation you can get into is when you can

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<v Speaker 4>genuinely say, at the end of the year or at

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<v Speaker 4>any point in the year, that I want it for

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<v Speaker 4>the guy next to me more than myself. And that

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<v Speaker 4>exists with this team, I think, and that's powerful. We

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<v Speaker 4>haven't finalized that I can tell you Garrett'll pitch Game one,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, we're just starting to kind of formul

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<v Speaker 4>later our plans and things like that, so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's a good chance of it. He's scheduled

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<v Speaker 4>to throw another live tomorrow, so if everything goes well there,

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<v Speaker 4>I would say there's a decent chance that he could

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<v Speaker 4>be on the roster. Yes, you know, we've seen that

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<v Speaker 4>so many times. You know, this one happened to be

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<v Speaker 4>to send us to the World Series. But I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like there's been so many at bats like that this year,

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<v Speaker 4>like big spot, game on the line, got a pitch

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<v Speaker 4>to him, and it's like, man, he just puts. He

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<v Speaker 4>throws one of those Jan Soto epic at bats on you,

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<v Speaker 4>and not surprising in that moment that he did it again.

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<v Speaker 4>He's just obviously an amazing hitter. I've loved every second

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<v Speaker 4>of him being here, and hopefully here he's here a

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<v Speaker 4>long time. I think it's a great matchup, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think the series we had this summer with them felt

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<v Speaker 4>like just competitive, heavy, tough games. The seven seven years

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<v Speaker 4>now that I've been here, there's always been that occasional

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<v Speaker 4>talk about Yankees Dodgers, So I think it's great. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>looking forward to all of it. The stars will be out,

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<v Speaker 4>the eyeballs will be watching, and hopefully we can deliver

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<v Speaker 4>on a great series.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, there's Aaron Boone, Yankees manager, on the team chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>He has announced Garrett Cole as his starter, will Nester

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<v Speaker 1>Cortes pitch in this World Series. He has been injured,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course on Juan Soto, his superstar right fielder

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of brought up a great point earlier. Wan

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<v Speaker 1>Soa could walk at the end of this year. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a free agent. I mean, if he does what he

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<v Speaker 1>valuable to a franchise out there. And we mentioned it yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not a lot of teams that can afford to

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<v Speaker 1>Wan Sodo.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely right, and you know he's not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>more valuable to any team more than the Yankees. The

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<v Speaker 3>way the fit is there. I mean you can compare

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<v Speaker 3>him with the you know, the Dodgers are really the

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<v Speaker 3>standard bearer when you talk about the top of the

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<v Speaker 3>class when you talk about you know, Bets and Otani

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<v Speaker 3>against Judge and Soto with remarkable supporting casts on both

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<v Speaker 3>sides of the Ledger. But it's not complete unless Soto

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<v Speaker 3>is there to accompany Judge. And I think that's the

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<v Speaker 3>way it's going to be framed, probably by his agents.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, the guy's doing it in New York

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<v Speaker 3>on the biggest stage. The ballpark's perfect, the support that

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<v Speaker 3>he gets in the lineup is perfect, and the fans

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<v Speaker 3>would just be drooling to get him there. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think he's going to be the same player or is

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<v Speaker 3>valuable to any other team except the Yankees.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it makes absolute sense. It's the perfect landing spot

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<v Speaker 1>for him long term and after the season he's had

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<v Speaker 1>in the postseason so far. Hopefully it gets minimized here

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<v Speaker 1>in the World Series his production, but certainly would fit

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<v Speaker 1>in nicely there in the gym.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if they let him walk, if they if the

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<v Speaker 3>Yankee organization lets him walk, they might burn Cashman's house down.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm telling you right, yes, I mean the

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<v Speaker 3>fans there will will rebel big time. Yeah, they can,

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<v Speaker 3>they can, They can afford him and big time, and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this is a this is a perfect place

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Vince and Breas next up here with

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<v Speaker 1>Saxon Kates in the AM on this Tuesday morning. Vance,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show. How are you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing good, Timothy doing good.

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<v Speaker 6>Stephen. I'm glad we're on a first name basis. So

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<v Speaker 6>there's a couple of things I want to ask, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I want your guys personal opinion. I'm first gonna share

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<v Speaker 6>a quick little story about Tommy and Lesorda, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>growing up in the Fullerton area. Braya Lahaber area. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>he he.

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<v Speaker 5>Visited my son's baseball team when he was on T

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<v Speaker 5>ball and he played cats with my son. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sitting down there watching Tommy. I was the only

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<v Speaker 5>parent doing so because I'm a die hard Dodger and

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<v Speaker 5>it was unbelievable. So I'm you know, I don't have

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of money, but you bet your booty and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to try my best to take my son

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<v Speaker 5>to one of these first two games. But what's your

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<v Speaker 5>guys' opinion? Hypothetically if it's a game seven and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like say it's a zero zero ballgames, do you think,

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<v Speaker 5>by any chance, if Otani goes up to Roberts and

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<v Speaker 5>be like, you know what I want to pitch? Do

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<v Speaker 5>you think we'll possibly see that? Like you know, you know, no,

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<v Speaker 5>I cause I don't think so. But I'm hearing it

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<v Speaker 5>around and it's not worth it in my opinion. But

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<v Speaker 5>what do you think that conversation would be? Like if

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<v Speaker 5>Otani and Roberts had that discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like we just had, it'd be that short. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>there is we could talk about other things, but to

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<v Speaker 3>be labor that point, the answer is going to be Nope.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it not exact question.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate the phone call. I'm going to completely disagree with you,

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<v Speaker 1>Steven Sacks. Really, I think that the door is not

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<v Speaker 1>completely shut on Show. Hey Otani pitching in a world

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<v Speaker 1>serious game, and it's not because they've alluded to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not because they've left that door open. Dave Roberts

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<v Speaker 1>has come out, Mark Pryor's been talked about it, Show

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<v Speaker 1>Hay has been asked about it, and the consensus has been, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not going to pitch in October for the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 3>But but are you talking about another October or you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this one this October? No chance.

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<v Speaker 1>He's throwing bullpen sessions. I know he's throwing long toss,

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<v Speaker 1>he's throwing hard. He's mixing up his pitches in the bulb.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like baby steps first step coming back from

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<v Speaker 1>arm injury. He is down the road in his rehabit.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone says he's in the moment to they say show heye,

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<v Speaker 3>you're in there. Okay, he goes in, he blows his

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<v Speaker 3>arm out. Okay, now what, Oh my gosh. They would

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<v Speaker 3>rip the city down and Dave Roberts would be gone. Yeah, seriously, No,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't take that chance. Man, Let him they got enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they got enough. Let get through this, win

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<v Speaker 3>the World Series, let him rehab the whole winter, let

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<v Speaker 3>him come back way strong next year. Now you've got

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<v Speaker 3>a team that's just ripping to go. Oh yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know you're gonna get all those other guys back too.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can't, like take that chance. Is it worth it?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what would what would make you get him

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<v Speaker 3>out there? What would it be? Mabe? There's two outs

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<v Speaker 3>in the ninth and you get one hitter, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta get Soto out or you gotta get you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean, is that what you do? I don't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if he blows it out.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's if there's an opportunity to get him

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<v Speaker 1>out there, if it's in a clenching situation, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation where they could use him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if Showy Otani goes to Dave Roberts in the dugout

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<v Speaker 1>and Mark Pryor tells the front office I want to pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>Are they gonna say no? I mean, he gets what

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<v Speaker 1>he wants. Yeah, it's up to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say he goes up there and he stinks up,

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<v Speaker 3>the joint, doesn't blow his arm out, but he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>get anybody out. Oh now what.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll show He wanted to pitch guys, He follows pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>where's your MANAGERI and balls?

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<v Speaker 5>Dave?

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, you know you might hear that too, So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just think it's way too risky,

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<v Speaker 3>way too risky. I get the I mean it's like

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<v Speaker 3>you got to throw in Rojas to, you know, to

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<v Speaker 3>get somebody out because there's absolutely nobody left. They're not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna make They're not gonna plan things out, so they

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<v Speaker 3>got nobody. I mean, they're gonna have somebody left down there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not gonna like, like I said, Miguel Rojas isn't

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go there and clean it up. They got to

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<v Speaker 3>have somebody down there and it won't be show. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe I'm what's tempting though, because it is

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<v Speaker 3>just okay, what about this, let's really daydream now. Just

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<v Speaker 3>think if it's you know, you're down to the last

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<v Speaker 3>bit here and you don't even have a left hander

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<v Speaker 3>down there that's even worthy, and you're thinking, okay, Judge

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<v Speaker 3>is coming up, and and there's two guys on and

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<v Speaker 3>judges coming up, and do you bring them in and

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<v Speaker 3>it's the last out in the ninth inningto Game seven, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>do you bring him in? Yes? WHOA, I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine that what if something look at something

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<v Speaker 3>like that happened, people would probably cash in their their

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<v Speaker 3>their season tickets because they say it was it was

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<v Speaker 3>rigged and it was phony, because nobody would buy that sucker.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously they're not gonna pitch him, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna want to pitch. If there's a chance he

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<v Speaker 1>can reaggravate it. It's not ready. Of course, that will

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<v Speaker 1>never happen. But if he feels like he's healthy enough,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a matter of we're waiting till next

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<v Speaker 1>season to give it the full start from spring training,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of hope there. There's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of maybe if they can get him out there,

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<v Speaker 1>he can pitch.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is a doctor decision. Now, they'll put it

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<v Speaker 3>in the doctor's hands because because there's too much on

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<v Speaker 3>the line, there's too much adrenaline going. We're in the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>the pressure, Yes, he had the pressure, and they'll put

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<v Speaker 3>it in the doctor's hands. And I guarantee you there

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<v Speaker 3>is no doctor on this planet that's gonna say, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he hasn't pitched all year, but we'll throw me here

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<v Speaker 3>in this situation where he's gonna try twenty times as

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<v Speaker 3>hard it seems, and he's gonna try to throw two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred miles an hour, and then they're gonna think, Man,

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<v Speaker 3>if he blows this thing out, I just lost my

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<v Speaker 3>license to be a doctor and all that. I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't take his I don't think it's gonna happen. It's

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<v Speaker 3>too risky, bro risky.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I get I think this is something

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<v Speaker 1>we get into more at the listeners tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>We can ask him put out we should put out

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<v Speaker 3>a poll right now and have it ready for tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll do that and we'll get to the phone

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<v Speaker 1>calls tomorrow about this. I think it's an intriguing topic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great it's a great conversation piece. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>If Otani's available, you know you're he's not taking up

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<v Speaker 1>a roster spot as far as a pitcher. He's already

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<v Speaker 1>positioned player. So that's me.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard the same thing, Tim, I've heard people saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard o'tani he's gonna possibly make an appearance. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Harold Reynolds from MLB Network basically said it

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<v Speaker 1>during September. He expects him to pitch really based on

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<v Speaker 1>what he thinks. Yeah, okay, Yeah, he's bullpen session, mixing

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<v Speaker 1>up his pitches. It's not like he just ripped off

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<v Speaker 1>a cast and it's like, all right, I'm ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got this bad boy off. Let's try it.

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<v Speaker 1>How he's been throwing like that, It's been a few months. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's throwing off flat ground, he's throwing off of mound.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's at that point where I'm I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll put a poll question up. We'll get to the

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls tomorrow. Jerry Royce is going to join his

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<v Speaker 1>next game one, starter of the nineteen eighty one World Series. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the last time the Dodgers and Yankee squared off. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Saxon Kates in the am right here in hanfi seventy

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<v Speaker 1>LA Sports. It's Saxon Kate's in the am here on

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<v Speaker 1>a five to seventy LA Sports. You're a home of

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<v Speaker 1>Shohyotani and the Los Angeles Dodgers, who are going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the World Series. Game one against the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Yankees coming up on Friday night while I Wrongo Casino

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers on Decade. It all started at four pm. First

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<v Speaker 1>pitch coming up at five to oh eight is the

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth head to head meeting between the Yankees and the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>a last met back in nineteen eighty one, the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>winning that series and joining this now saxy one of

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<v Speaker 1>your teammates back then, he was the Game one starter,

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<v Speaker 1>as we heard in our Game one flashback back in

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<v Speaker 1>our first hour of the show. Twenty one years in

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<v Speaker 1>the major leagues. He played for the Dodgers. He played

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<v Speaker 1>for eight different teams, A two time All Star, he

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<v Speaker 1>Series chap with these Dodgers in nineteen eighty one. He

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<v Speaker 1>is Jerry Royce and he joins us now here on

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<v Speaker 1>FI seventy LA Sports. Jerry, good morning, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 7>Everything's good early in the morning, but I'm up and

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<v Speaker 7>Adam had my two cups of coffee and ready to

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<v Speaker 1>And Steven, good morning, Jerry, love it, love it when

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<v Speaker 1>you hear Yankees Dodgers, And this is the first meeting

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<v Speaker 1>since well nineteen eighty one. What are some of the

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<v Speaker 7>Well? For me, growing up in the Midwest and becoming

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<v Speaker 7>I remember watching the fifty five and fifty six World

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<v Speaker 7>of baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry, I good to be with you. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been a little while. Looking forward to seeing you again,

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully at the camp coming up in January. I hope

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to be there. But listen, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>ask you a little bit about the differences between when

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<v Speaker 3>you pitched and the complications the way they have now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, playing behind you and I know the No

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<v Speaker 3>hitter that you pitched against the Giants. I remember some

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<v Speaker 3>of your games you throw six, maybe seven curveballs in

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<v Speaker 3>on a griddle. That thing moves so much you were

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<v Speaker 1>How did you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Number one? And what's the difference today with how complicated

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<v Speaker 7>Steve, That's an excellent question, and it's a little more

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<v Speaker 7>The best way possible can one is to have command

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<v Speaker 7>twenty pitching coaches. I was able to control it in

418
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<v Speaker 7>the strike zone, and right around nineteen eighty I was

419
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<v Speaker 7>able to develop the cut fastball that if I kept

420
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<v Speaker 7>it right around the hitter's knees, it came in, as

421
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<v Speaker 7>hitters would tell me, heavy and it has a late movement. Now,

422
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<v Speaker 7>hitters always try to hit the ball and barrel it

423
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<v Speaker 7>up and drive it somewhere, but they couldn't make the

424
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<v Speaker 7>adjustment because of the late movement and due to the

425
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<v Speaker 7>fact I had command of it in the strike zone.

426
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<v Speaker 7>I could then go from the third base side of

427
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<v Speaker 7>home plate to the first base side, change speeds on it,

428
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<v Speaker 7>and in effect, one fastball was the equivalent to three

429
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<v Speaker 7>or four different pitches. So it was the curveball that

430
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<v Speaker 7>I used once in a while to get over the plate,

431
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<v Speaker 7>to set up a hitter, to show them something just

432
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<v Speaker 7>a little bit different, and to change his angle of

433
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<v Speaker 7>his eyes as I was hoping to get him out

434
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<v Speaker 7>with the basketball.

435
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<v Speaker 1>Jerry, you got to start in Game one, Yankees won

436
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<v Speaker 1>that game. You give up an early three run home

437
00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:12.160
<v Speaker 1>run to Bob Watson. You come back in Game five

438
00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and get the win. Over on on Gidry that Game

439
00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:17.680
<v Speaker 1>one start, we played some of the highlights from that game.

440
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<v Speaker 1>You guys were coming off the emotional win in Montreal.

441
00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:23.480
<v Speaker 1>A couple days later, he was turning around in the

442
00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.599
<v Speaker 1>Bronx playing Game one of that World Series. You had

443
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<v Speaker 1>Joe Demajo throwing out the first pitch at Yankee Stadium.

444
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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the emotions of that Game one and

445
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<v Speaker 1>what you were feeling like that on the mound for

446
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<v Speaker 1>the Game one of the World Series.

447
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? Absolutely. And one of the things that this upcoming

448
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<v Speaker 7>series reminds me of In fact, it's kind of dusted

449
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<v Speaker 7>off some memories that were buried back in my mind. See,

450
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<v Speaker 7>I don't think that much about what I did during

451
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<v Speaker 7>my baseball career, and I think a lot of ballplayers

452
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<v Speaker 7>will tell you the same thing, because it's a lot

453
00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:59.200
<v Speaker 7>easier to look out your windshield than it is the

454
00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:01.680
<v Speaker 7>rear view mirror when you're driving a car. It's the

455
00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:05.000
<v Speaker 7>same thing. And remembering baseball, but going in the Yankee

456
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<v Speaker 7>Stadium for the first time, we're walking on that turf

457
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<v Speaker 7>and this was the same place where Ruth Gerrig and

458
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<v Speaker 7>a number of future Hall of famers were going to play,

459
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<v Speaker 7>and it got to me a little bit and it

460
00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:20.640
<v Speaker 7>did affect me. But I don't make excuses about it,

461
00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:23.720
<v Speaker 7>because they did get some pitches up. The Yankees were

462
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<v Speaker 7>a formidable foe, and they took full advantage of everything

463
00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:30.599
<v Speaker 7>with that hometown crowd and were able to get me

464
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<v Speaker 7>out of the ballgame early in that game.

465
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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, Jerry, I wanted to ask you a little

466
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<v Speaker 3>bit more about pitching because it fascinates me. This was

467
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<v Speaker 3>always the nemesis in our lives of trying to beat

468
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<v Speaker 3>down these pitchers. First of all, the fact that everybody

469
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<v Speaker 3>throws a hundred today, and you know, I'm just maybe

470
00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:50.759
<v Speaker 3>using a little hyperbole there, But for the most part,

471
00:22:50.799 --> 00:22:53.279
<v Speaker 3>the guys seemed to throw around that level or the

472
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<v Speaker 3>big you know, the big hosses on the team. I

473
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<v Speaker 3>think they threw pretty much the same speed when we played,

474
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<v Speaker 3>maybe over a little bit more now. But the differences

475
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<v Speaker 3>between how they measure the ball coming out of the

476
00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:08.519
<v Speaker 3>hand you know now and coming over the plate when

477
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<v Speaker 3>you pitched, So what are the differences between the two

478
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<v Speaker 3>measuring sticks?

479
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<v Speaker 2>You know?

480
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<v Speaker 7>That's that's good. I'm surprised that you came up with that,

481
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<v Speaker 7>because not many people are aware of that. No, it's

482
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<v Speaker 7>an excellent question and a great point. A lot of

483
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<v Speaker 7>times velocity was measured as the ball came across the

484
00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:28.079
<v Speaker 7>plate and coming out of the pitcher's hand, it's totally

485
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<v Speaker 7>different because it's a few miles an hour faster.

486
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<v Speaker 1>Now.

487
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<v Speaker 7>I think guys more today muscle up and try to

488
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<v Speaker 7>get the velocity and sacrifice a little bit of command

489
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<v Speaker 7>on the other side. But I trained differently back in

490
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<v Speaker 7>those days. And remember this is a long time in

491
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<v Speaker 7>baseball history, and the starting pitcher you were trained and

492
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<v Speaker 7>you had it in your mind that you're out there

493
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<v Speaker 7>for nine innings, and anything less than that it wasn't

494
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<v Speaker 7>as spectacular as what you plan to do and what

495
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<v Speaker 7>you try to do. So you may sacrifice a little

496
00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:07.480
<v Speaker 7>in velocity, some speed in order to locate your pitches

497
00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:10.359
<v Speaker 7>just a little bit better, and went through the batting

498
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<v Speaker 7>orders three and four times, so you had to plan

499
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<v Speaker 7>just a little bit different. If you get somebody out

500
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<v Speaker 7>early in the ballgame, for instance, a power hitter, and

501
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<v Speaker 7>you him early in the game, second or third, anying

502
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<v Speaker 7>nobody on base, you're not going to throw him the

503
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<v Speaker 7>outpitch that you need to use later in the game

504
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<v Speaker 7>with perhaps somebody on base and the game on the line.

505
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<v Speaker 7>So it's a planning experience as well as executing experience

506
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<v Speaker 7>later in the ballgame. And that's the mindset that I

507
00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:44.880
<v Speaker 7>tried to go out there with. It didn't always succeed,

508
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:47.599
<v Speaker 7>but when it did, it made perfect sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Royce is our guest here on ANFI seventy LA Sports,

510
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<v Speaker 1>former Dodger World Series Champion nineteen eighty one, Game one starter,

511
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<v Speaker 1>Game five starter against the New York Yankees. Both managers

512
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<v Speaker 1>have talked about team chemistry this year, Dave Roberts has

513
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<v Speaker 1>alluded to his group and buying in Aaron Boon. Yet

514
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<v Speaker 1>it made a comment yesterday about this group. This chemistry

515
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.359
<v Speaker 1>on the Yankees is like nothing he's seen since he's

516
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<v Speaker 1>been the manager in taking over in twenty eighteen, that

517
00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty one team, the chemistry he had a group

518
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:20.599
<v Speaker 1>of young players like a Steven Sacks who comes up

519
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<v Speaker 1>and is helping out this Dodgers team, and a group

520
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.559
<v Speaker 1>of veterans who hadn't been able to beat the Yankees

521
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<v Speaker 1>in prior World Series and finally do what was that

522
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<v Speaker 1>chemistry like coming in a year before joining this team

523
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<v Speaker 1>and ultimately getting over that hurdle of beating the Yankees.

524
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<v Speaker 7>Well, you can divide that eighty one team into some subgroups.

525
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<v Speaker 7>You're right on what you say, some veterans and some

526
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:45.799
<v Speaker 7>young players. But remember the core of the team, the infield,

527
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<v Speaker 7>plus Steve Dieger and maybe one or two others as

528
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:51.640
<v Speaker 7>they said here, all came up through the organization. Many

529
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<v Speaker 7>played in the seventy four, seventy seven, and seventy eight

530
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<v Speaker 7>World Series and were unsuccessful. Then there was a group

531
00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:03.279
<v Speaker 7>that was traded for that included Rick Monday, Reggie Smith

532
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.119
<v Speaker 7>in order to help the Dodgers get over the hump.

533
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<v Speaker 7>They got over the hump, but they lost to the

534
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:13.400
<v Speaker 7>Yankees in seventy seven and seventy eight. And then some

535
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<v Speaker 7>young players coming up through the organization as young players should,

536
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<v Speaker 7>and that include Stephen and Tom Neidenfure and Mike Sooship.

537
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<v Speaker 7>It could, but it was also the addition and this

538
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:29.000
<v Speaker 7>is the fourth group of guys that were traded for

539
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<v Speaker 7>from other organizations to help form that twenty five man roster,

540
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:39.039
<v Speaker 7>and that included me. So it took some wily trades.

541
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<v Speaker 7>It took some young players coming through the organization plus

542
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:47.519
<v Speaker 7>some veteran guys and all come together in a situation.

543
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<v Speaker 7>It was a strike season, and there was an additional

544
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:54.279
<v Speaker 7>round of playoffs that we had to win. And we

545
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<v Speaker 7>were down two games to none in a five game

546
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.400
<v Speaker 7>series against Houston, came back to beat him, were one

547
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:04.559
<v Speaker 7>game from elimination against Montreal in Montreal, and we're able

548
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:08.680
<v Speaker 7>to win thanks to Rick Monday's home run off Steve Rodgers.

549
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:11.720
<v Speaker 7>And then we fell to the Yankees the first two

550
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.880
<v Speaker 7>games in the World Series, only to come back and

551
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.680
<v Speaker 7>win three one run games at Dodger Stadium. Went back

552
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:21.119
<v Speaker 7>to New York. It was a totally different kind of

553
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:25.200
<v Speaker 7>situation for a World Series that saw better than fifty

554
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:28.759
<v Speaker 7>thousand people at Old Yankee Stadium. This time the crowd

555
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 7>numbers were down, as it seemed as if the people

556
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.839
<v Speaker 7>of New York, the fans, the Yankees, were expecting to feed,

557
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:38.200
<v Speaker 7>and we were more than happy to oblige them, winning

558
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.319
<v Speaker 7>that sixth game and bringing a World championship home to

559
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<v Speaker 7>Los Angeles.

560
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, Jerry, I got to ask you this question.

561
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:46.759
<v Speaker 3>Well maybe I should say it like my New York

562
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:48.079
<v Speaker 3>friends in New York do.

563
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:49.039
<v Speaker 1>I got to ask you.

564
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, look, Jerry, I got to find out the difference,

565
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 3>and you can tell us, because you're a great specimen

566
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 3>if you will to tell us this. Today people pitch

567
00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.640
<v Speaker 3>one hundred innings, by that's it los of times, it's

568
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 3>five and fly ten times. In your career, you pitched

569
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:08.200
<v Speaker 3>over two hundred innings. You pitched three thousand, six hundred

570
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:10.319
<v Speaker 3>and sixty nine and two thirds innings in your career.

571
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:14.039
<v Speaker 3>In nineteen seventy three, Tim get this, he pitched two

572
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:18.240
<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy nine and a third innings. So two

573
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:22.160
<v Speaker 3>hundred innings for Jerry Royce was nothing. And remember, Jerry

574
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:24.559
<v Speaker 3>is a big dude. He's six ' five, all of that,

575
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:27.319
<v Speaker 3>and he's a strong guy. I remember, you know, people

576
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 3>were saying, if it wasn't for that four years of

577
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 3>high school, it would have kept Jerry out of the

578
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 3>big league, so he would have had twenty six years

579
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.759
<v Speaker 3>in the big leagues. But Jerry, I gotta ask. I

580
00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:38.799
<v Speaker 3>got to ask you, Jerry, what is the difference. Please

581
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 3>educate us on how they pitch one hundred and twenty

582
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.279
<v Speaker 3>innings maybe, and they say, what a full season. Here

583
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 3>you are in seventy three, two hundred and seventy nine

584
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:50.759
<v Speaker 3>innings and ten times over two hundred innings and many

585
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:52.880
<v Speaker 3>times way over two hundred innings.

586
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<v Speaker 7>Well, I thank you for that big time pat on

587
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.559
<v Speaker 7>the back. But the guy she came before me, those

588
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:04.599
<v Speaker 7>guys sometimes went three hundred innings. Guys like Carlton and

589
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:08.920
<v Speaker 7>Gibson and sever Ferguson Jenkins. Those were the guys who

590
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:12.480
<v Speaker 7>set the tone for starting pitchers. They were out there

591
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.559
<v Speaker 7>every fourth or fifth day. Now, if you go back

592
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.279
<v Speaker 7>even a little bit further to the generation before that,

593
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:23.720
<v Speaker 7>these four starters, this is with the Dodgers, you would

594
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.880
<v Speaker 7>start a game rest today and then throw batting practice

595
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.599
<v Speaker 7>and then come back two days later and try to

596
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.759
<v Speaker 7>get your nine innings in. Now, it was definitely going

597
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:35.799
<v Speaker 7>to shorten a career, but it was just the way

598
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:38.480
<v Speaker 7>it was done back in the forties and early fifties.

599
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:41.400
<v Speaker 7>By the time I got to the big leagues, teams

600
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.799
<v Speaker 7>had five starters and you were still expected to go

601
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.960
<v Speaker 7>nine innings. If you lasted seven, and you had a

602
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.160
<v Speaker 7>pretty good relief core in place, you had a chance

603
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 7>of doing some things during the course of the season.

604
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.880
<v Speaker 7>But the game has evolved over the time that both

605
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 7>you and I have played, and their stints are shorter

606
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:05.559
<v Speaker 7>and they throw harder. They have a number of different

607
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:09.559
<v Speaker 7>pitches in their amimal belt that they can use during

608
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 7>the ballgame. And that's just the way it's done today.

609
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 7>Is it better, is it worse? I don't know. It's

610
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:17.480
<v Speaker 7>just the way that it's done.

611
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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jerre, we appreciate you coming on this morning. Nineteen

612
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 1>eighty one was a great year for the Dodgers beating

613
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:28.599
<v Speaker 1>the Yankees, and here we are forty three years later,

614
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<v Speaker 1>it's the Dodgers and Yankees again in the Fall Classic.

615
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<v Speaker 1>Are you anxious to see this one? Get started? On

616
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<v Speaker 1>Friday night.

617
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<v Speaker 7>At the start of this program, was dusted off some

618
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<v Speaker 7>memories that I usually don't delve into. Just a little point.

619
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<v Speaker 7>A little fact I'll leave you with is that the

620
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<v Speaker 7>day of the game is October twenty fifth. Now, that's

621
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<v Speaker 7>forty three years to the day that the Dodgers and

622
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<v Speaker 7>the Yankees' last hookup and postseason in Los Angeles. I

623
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:00.680
<v Speaker 7>was the one who threw the last pitch in that ballgame.

624
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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow, here we are here forty three years we

625
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:09.559
<v Speaker 1>are years later. Wow, Jerry, we appreciate the time. Great

626
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:12.559
<v Speaker 1>to hear your voice and uh yeah, Dodger fans certainly

627
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>looking for the same result that you guys enjoyed in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty one. Thanks for coming on with us this morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks Jerry, Tim, Tim, Thanks, thank you Steven. Always good

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<v Speaker 7>to talk to you. Hope we see each other sooner

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<v Speaker 7>rather than later.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, okay, but thank you. There he goes the

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<v Speaker 3>great Jerry Royce. Great teammate, Tim, Yeah, great teammate. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>he was the best.

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<v Speaker 1>He treated you well, young Steven Sacks in the clubhouse.

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<v Speaker 3>So he was so great to me, he really was.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Jerry for joining us. Coming up, we'll wrap

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<v Speaker 1>things up and we're gonna get into this heavy tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Hey O Taani, should he be available to

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<v Speaker 1>pitch if needed? Something to think about, Dodger fans, Dodgers Yankees,

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest stage in baseball is the Fall Classic. The

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<v Speaker 1>two biggest teams with the richest history in Major League

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball will square off Friday night, Game one of the

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<v Speaker 1>World Series. Dodgers Yankees will have it for you. First

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<v Speaker 1>pitch at five eight. Coming up again, We'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>how you can win Game one and Game two World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>is here. Bring out the chef in you with chef

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<v Speaker 1>Marito all right, Saxe. A couple of loose ends here

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<v Speaker 1>tonight we mentioned the Lakers tip off their regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>Potentially we could see Lebron James and his son Bronnie

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<v Speaker 1>James play in this same game, and it's a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal to have a father and son play in a

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<v Speaker 1>professional game together. Only the other time we've seen this

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<v Speaker 1>in our lifetime and probably ever, is Ken Griffy Senior

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<v Speaker 1>and Ken Griffy Junior, who Junior said him and his

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<v Speaker 1>dad are going to be at the Lakers home opener

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<v Speaker 1>tonight at Crypto dot Com Arena, just to have that

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to see it like they were able to play

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<v Speaker 1>in a game together back in the day. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>cross as at all with the Griffy Senior or junior

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<v Speaker 1>in your playing time.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't you know what, I think it was a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit after me that that that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety ninety one. They were teammates in Seattle, Okay, so.

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<v Speaker 3>That was right in the middle. Yeah, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>on the Yankees then too, So yeah, I don't really

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<v Speaker 3>recall it that much though, but I know they hit

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<v Speaker 3>a home run in the same game. I think, right, yeah,

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00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.159
<v Speaker 3>that that happened. That happened. But it's amazing thing. Have

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<v Speaker 3>your dad and your son playing in the same game.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that is like I can't even fathom that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's just unreal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is pretty so Lebron and his son.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is a This is a huge deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, it is gonna be a big deal tonight. No doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>You got the The A's another story I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get to you real quick. The A's opening up or

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<v Speaker 1>the A's are gonna play in that parking Sacramento where

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<v Speaker 1>you call games there Saxony for the Triple A team.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in West Sacramento, the city I grew up in,

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<v Speaker 3>believe it or not, really in West Sacramento. I grew

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<v Speaker 3>up on a farm southwest of Sacramento, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>now where this built up part of that place is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be played maybe three miles four miles from

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<v Speaker 3>my house, no way, Yeah, right in West Sacramentos, same city.

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<v Speaker 1>And you called games for them up there as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I do. I call games for the Triple A team

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<v Speaker 3>for the Giants. I do the Saturday home TV games.

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<v Speaker 1>Very nice. And now the A's are moving there temporarily

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<v Speaker 1>for a few seasons while their new ballpark in Las

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas is being built. And the big story right now

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<v Speaker 1>is Major League Baseball, which is basically funding a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the renovations to the stadium there, including clubhouses, new batters,

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<v Speaker 1>eye and concessions. They're going to go with natural grass

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<v Speaker 1>instead of artificial turf.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the switch recently, because it was artificial turf

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<v Speaker 3>in the beginning. But go ahead, and they made the

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<v Speaker 3>decision because players were concerned with the heat in Sacramento. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and the record breaking heat that was in Sacramento this summer.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently there was a twenty day stretch which the temperature

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<v Speaker 3>never fell below one hundred degrees yet average up to

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and three, got up to eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to have the artificial turf there because

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be so hot for the players during

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<v Speaker 1>the summer months. Instead, they are gonna pivot and they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put natural, natural grass in there. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the concerns about having natural grass initially was two teams,

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<v Speaker 1>the Triple A teams still playing there and the Oakland

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<v Speaker 1>A's are gonna be playing there are the A's and

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<v Speaker 1>it get a lot of wear and tear on natural grass.

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<v Speaker 1>Well this is a good move, right, It's well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're gonna have a heck of a time

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<v Speaker 3>keeping it nice. But that plane surface during the season here,

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<v Speaker 3>even though it's hot, but it's gonna have half the

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<v Speaker 3>beat down on it because every single day there's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be a game on that field. When the A's are

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<v Speaker 3>out of town, the river Cats are gonna be playing

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<v Speaker 3>and vice versa. But that that infield and that grass

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<v Speaker 3>is like a pool table. It is beautiful. It is

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<v Speaker 3>really a great and you know, even when I travel

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<v Speaker 3>on back East and people ask about, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>Sacramento franchise and Triple A, it's it's like the standard bearer,

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<v Speaker 3>if you will. Everybody wants to be like that. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's a great run place. They sell it out all

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<v Speaker 3>the time, and you can imagine when the A's come here,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be there. It's already sold out like every.

743
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<v Speaker 1>Game are they are they excited to have them?

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<v Speaker 3>Forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>With the A's coming though, there you also get who's

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<v Speaker 1>playing the A's. They get to come in there, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see Dodgers, Yeah Yankees. I mean this this

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00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>town is like, you know, it was great when we

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<v Speaker 1>got the Kings, but Sacramento is a baseball and boxing town.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of good boxers come from baseball and boxing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Sacramento is known for. And of course when

752
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<v Speaker 1>the Kings came here, we embraced them in basketball. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is a baseball, notoriously baseball and boxing town. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the Triple A affiliate, it's the affiliate of the Giants, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, the Triple A of the Giants, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you're seeing a lot of the guys who

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<v Speaker 1>who have been moved up to the Giants, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of them, yeah, I called the games here. When

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<v Speaker 3>I went to a Giants game, brought some friends, you know,

760
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.440
<v Speaker 3>about a month ago, two months ago, and most of

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<v Speaker 3>them were all the Rivercats players that I was calling here.

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of them got called up to the Giants.

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<v Speaker 3>That is very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm excited to see what it's gonna look like

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<v Speaker 1>having a smaller stadium. And also keep in mind we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get into this and maybe tomorrow the Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 1>Rays may not have a field to play in the

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<v Speaker 1>Tropic Canda Field because the roof blew off during the

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<v Speaker 1>last last hurricane.

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<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 1>They're talking about playing maybe in Orlando, maybe going to

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<v Speaker 1>Disney World where the Braves had their spring training. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they got well.

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<v Speaker 3>They would probably like it because there's one way in

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<v Speaker 3>and one way out of that ballpark and it's not

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00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, But you know what if

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<v Speaker 3>you talk about blowing the roof off something. Can I

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<v Speaker 3>make a quick note real quick before we go. I

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<v Speaker 3>just got a text from a very very big time

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<v Speaker 3>player that is gonna come on with this Wednesday or Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm texting him the calling number for one of those days. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>some look forward to can't wait for that Saxy great show.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll do it again tomorrow, buddy, see you then, by

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<v Speaker 3>all right, Thanks to Katie, thanks to Michelle, thanks to

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<v Speaker 3>all you beat a bar of the show tomorrow. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>hear from Freddie Freeman, Maximuncie, and of course we'll hear

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<v Speaker 3>from the manager Dave Roberts. And we're gonna get more

789
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<v Speaker 3>into show Aotani should he pitch in this world series.

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<v Speaker 3>If need be the bullpen, we'll get into it. Thanks

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<v Speaker 3>for joining us this morning. The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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<v Speaker 3>is next.
