Speaker 1: The right quot.
Speaker 2: Dodgers Playoff Baseball is back, and with it an annual
Speaker 2: postseason tradition.
Speaker 1: Scam is back.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 2: This is Sax and Cakes in the a app BA
Speaker 2: go with Proway. Dodger legend Steve Sacks is joined by
Speaker 2: your favorite Dodger pregame host, Tim Kates. If you want
Speaker 2: to talk Dodgers, get in on the show on eighty
Speaker 2: six six nine eighty seven two five seven now. While
Speaker 2: the Dan Patrick Show streams on the Ihearts radio app.
Speaker 2: We've been banished to the Internet until this Dodgers playoff
Speaker 2: run concludes. Here they are broadcasting live on AM five
Speaker 2: to seven LA Sports. It's Tim Kates and Steve sachs.
Speaker 1: Our three of SAX and the Kates and the Am
Speaker 1: here on AMPI seventy LA Sports on this Tuesday morning,
Speaker 1: October twenty second. Thanks for being with us, make your
Speaker 1: way to work. If you're already at your job and
Speaker 1: joining a little scam on a Tuesday morning to get
Speaker 1: you through the day taking the kids to school. We
Speaker 1: appreciate you taking us with you on your ride. Hey Tim,
Speaker 1: this Tuesday morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Steven, Well we'll let you know that, Okay, scam's
Speaker 3: out there. I mean, I'm getting like text messages, I
Speaker 3: get phone calls from people, say hey, and they're not
Speaker 3: even around here, They're not even California. I was less
Speaker 3: you guys on ihearted. Yeah, I love your show. I
Speaker 3: love Scam Scam scam.
Speaker 1: It's getting popular. It's very popular. I love running to
Speaker 1: people that love listening to it. It's Dodger fans's way
Speaker 1: to just to kind of keep talking Dodgers baseball through
Speaker 1: October when there's so much else happening the football seasons underway.
Speaker 1: College football is certainly going on, but Dodger fans want
Speaker 1: to talk Dodgers baseball. Dodger fans want to hear what's
Speaker 1: going on. They want to relive some of the great moments,
Speaker 1: as we're doing with the game one flashback this morning
Speaker 1: from the nineteen eighty one World Series, the last time
Speaker 1: these two teams meet. We'll do games two and three tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Jerry Royce will join us, coming up in about twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's I'm just thinking.
Speaker 3: You know, no game, okay, would the show be vibrant,
Speaker 3: would it be fun? Would there be interesting things that
Speaker 3: we need? Two more hours? Yeah, I mean I mean,
Speaker 3: it's there's lots of stuff to talk about.
Speaker 1: There is a whole bunch to get into, and the
Speaker 1: Yankees are working out today. We'll get more out of that.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from Max Mounsey, Freddie Freeman hopefully an
Speaker 1: update on his ankle, and Dave Roberts later on today.
Speaker 1: They are expected to talk to the media, so we'll
Speaker 1: have that for you tomorrow. Game one is Friday night,
Speaker 1: first pitch at five oh eight. If you're asking Steven
Speaker 1: Sacks for tickets, don't bother. Nope, don't bother. Don't even
Speaker 1: just delete the text, don't even fire off the email.
Speaker 1: Just act like you aren't even gonna do it, and
Speaker 1: you'll be better off. Maybe, just maybe, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: text Saxy, just say hey, Hope, you're well. Good to
Speaker 1: hear your voice on the air in Los Angeles again
Speaker 1: here in October, and we'll just just leave it at that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And please, I mean, don't go way out there
Speaker 3: and say, uh, you know any show Hay Jersey, I really,
Speaker 3: you know what, I haven't even met show Heo Tani before. Really, No,
Speaker 3: haven't met him.
Speaker 1: We got anything? You know what, Stephen? You need to
Speaker 1: come down to La for this World series.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, let's yeah, I would, I would do that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we got to get you thrown out the
Speaker 1: first pitch at a game. I mean, I gotta talked
Speaker 1: to Steve Brenner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or or Carry Osborne, one of the two.
Speaker 1: Let's get this done. Let's get you out there. Let's
Speaker 1: get you.
Speaker 3: And I together, you know. I mean I need to
Speaker 3: I need to spruce up my my uh my, what
Speaker 3: do you call it? My social media a little bit.
Speaker 3: My daughter does it for me.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, yeah, I mean he's only played in Anaheim
Speaker 1: for six years, so you did have six years in Anaheim.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you what's gonna happen is he's he's gonna
Speaker 3: bust out, like if he wins the MVP Award, and
Speaker 3: he's gonna have his interpreter up there, and he's just
Speaker 3: gonna stand in front of the interpreter and just talk
Speaker 3: just like we are, I mean, with perfect clarity, with
Speaker 3: no accent, and it's like he's been hiding it the
Speaker 3: whole time. He's gonna bust out with a long, long
Speaker 3: Dia tribe, you know, making the transition from Anaheim up
Speaker 3: to Los Angeles and different leagues, and now it's culminated
Speaker 3: in all the contract and now he's won the MVP
Speaker 3: of the Series or whatever something like that. But how
Speaker 3: about if he did that in his his language was
Speaker 3: just perfect. I think he was dropping word smithy words,
Speaker 3: you know, like whatever, you know.
Speaker 1: That would be pretty awesome if he did that.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't that be cool?
Speaker 1: It would be just jaw dropping for everybody in the room.
Speaker 3: You're like, what, Well, Actually, a lot of MLB network
Speaker 3: I would like to say that the pitching staff he
Speaker 3: or this league is completely antithetical to what we have
Speaker 3: over in the American League. And the reason why is
Speaker 3: because they challenge you more.
Speaker 1: They started doing that, people would flip out. Be great,
Speaker 1: it would be awesome. I'm looking at the back cover
Speaker 1: of the New York Post today, the sports section, and
Speaker 1: they're talking about the Knick starting their season. They got
Speaker 1: a post NBA preview, but also their headline is on
Speaker 1: one side of Totani and Bets. On the other side
Speaker 1: it's Judge and so, and the headline says Star Wars
Speaker 1: Yankees Dodgers World Series filled with big contracts and bigger names.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's true.
Speaker 1: When I saw Star Wars. I thought it was good
Speaker 1: versus evil, like you know the well.
Speaker 3: There's a there's a there's a little you know inclination. Okay,
Speaker 3: think yeah, I think I think so yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's right there in front of you
Speaker 1: and it hits you right in the face. Yeah, these
Speaker 1: are huge stars. Alana Rizzo said it perfectly. Outside of
Speaker 1: Mike Trout, you got every star in baseball that people
Speaker 1: know playing in this series on the biggest stage.
Speaker 3: You know. The crazy thing is if you if you
Speaker 3: asked Hollywood to write a script and you know, a
Speaker 3: big baseball story and it comes to the end of
Speaker 3: the season, and then you put the players and all this,
Speaker 3: they wouldn't even buy it. They'd say, hey, it's it's phony.
Speaker 3: It's not real, right, you know, that's that's not gonna fly.
Speaker 3: Nobody'd buy that. Here we are.
Speaker 1: Here, we are the two biggest franchises in baseball, two
Speaker 1: biggest payrolls, near the top of baseball, with the biggest
Speaker 1: stars on full display globally. Beginning on Friday night, we
Speaker 1: mentioned the Yankees going through a workout. Let's check in
Speaker 1: with the Yankees manager Aaron Boone. Southern California product, went
Speaker 1: the USC. Now he's managing the bad guys over there
Speaker 1: at the evil Empire known as the New York Yankees.
Speaker 1: Here's his thoughts going into Game one.
Speaker 4: The closeness that these guys have with one another, and
Speaker 4: that trite playing for one another is palpable with this group,
Speaker 4: has been all year, has been since day one. These
Speaker 4: guys love each other, and these guys love doing it
Speaker 4: for one another. And I always feel like the best
Speaker 4: team situation you can get into is when you can
Speaker 4: genuinely say, at the end of the year or at
Speaker 4: any point in the year, that I want it for
Speaker 4: the guy next to me more than myself. And that
Speaker 4: exists with this team, I think, and that's powerful. We
Speaker 4: haven't finalized that I can tell you Garrett'll pitch Game one,
Speaker 4: but you know, we're just starting to kind of formul
Speaker 4: later our plans and things like that, so we'll see.
Speaker 4: I think there's a good chance of it. He's scheduled
Speaker 4: to throw another live tomorrow, so if everything goes well there,
Speaker 4: I would say there's a decent chance that he could
Speaker 4: be on the roster. Yes, you know, we've seen that
Speaker 4: so many times. You know, this one happened to be
Speaker 4: to send us to the World Series. But I feel
Speaker 4: like there's been so many at bats like that this year,
Speaker 4: like big spot, game on the line, got a pitch
Speaker 4: to him, and it's like, man, he just puts. He
Speaker 4: throws one of those Jan Soto epic at bats on you,
Speaker 4: and not surprising in that moment that he did it again.
Speaker 4: He's just obviously an amazing hitter. I've loved every second
Speaker 4: of him being here, and hopefully here he's here a
Speaker 4: long time. I think it's a great matchup, and I
Speaker 4: think the series we had this summer with them felt
Speaker 4: like just competitive, heavy, tough games. The seven seven years
Speaker 4: now that I've been here, there's always been that occasional
Speaker 4: talk about Yankees Dodgers, So I think it's great. I'm
Speaker 4: looking forward to all of it. The stars will be out,
Speaker 4: the eyeballs will be watching, and hopefully we can deliver
Speaker 4: on a great series.
Speaker 1: All Right, there's Aaron Boone, Yankees manager, on the team chemistry.
Speaker 1: He has announced Garrett Cole as his starter, will Nester
Speaker 1: Cortes pitch in this World Series. He has been injured,
Speaker 1: and of course on Juan Soto, his superstar right fielder
Speaker 1: a lot of brought up a great point earlier. Wan
Speaker 1: Soa could walk at the end of this year. He's
Speaker 1: a free agent. I mean, if he does what he
Speaker 1: does in the World Series, he's gonna make himself very
Speaker 1: valuable to a franchise out there. And we mentioned it yesterday.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of teams that can afford to
Speaker 1: Wan Sodo.
Speaker 3: Absolutely right, and you know he's not going to be
Speaker 3: more valuable to any team more than the Yankees. The
Speaker 3: way the fit is there. I mean you can compare
Speaker 3: him with the you know, the Dodgers are really the
Speaker 3: standard bearer when you talk about the top of the
Speaker 3: class when you talk about you know, Bets and Otani
Speaker 3: against Judge and Soto with remarkable supporting casts on both
Speaker 3: sides of the Ledger. But it's not complete unless Soto
Speaker 3: is there to accompany Judge. And I think that's the
Speaker 3: way it's going to be framed, probably by his agents.
Speaker 3: And you know, the guy's doing it in New York
Speaker 3: on the biggest stage. The ballpark's perfect, the support that
Speaker 3: he gets in the lineup is perfect, and the fans
Speaker 3: would just be drooling to get him there. I don't
Speaker 3: think he's going to be the same player or is
Speaker 3: valuable to any other team except the Yankees.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes absolute sense. It's the perfect landing spot
Speaker 1: for him long term and after the season he's had
Speaker 1: in the postseason so far. Hopefully it gets minimized here
Speaker 1: in the World Series his production, but certainly would fit
Speaker 1: in nicely there in the gym.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they let him walk, if they if the
Speaker 3: Yankee organization lets him walk, they might burn Cashman's house down.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm telling you right, yes, I mean the
Speaker 3: fans there will will rebel big time. Yeah, they can,
Speaker 3: they can, They can afford him and big time, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, this is a this is a perfect place
Speaker 3: to spend it.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Vince and Breas next up here with
Speaker 1: Saxon Kates in the AM on this Tuesday morning. Vance,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. How are you.
Speaker 5: I'm doing good, Timothy doing good.
Speaker 6: Stephen. I'm glad we're on a first name basis. So
Speaker 6: there's a couple of things I want to ask, you know,
Speaker 6: I want your guys personal opinion. I'm first gonna share
Speaker 6: a quick little story about Tommy and Lesorda, you know,
Speaker 6: growing up in the Fullerton area. Braya Lahaber area. You know,
Speaker 6: he he.
Speaker 5: Visited my son's baseball team when he was on T
Speaker 5: ball and he played cats with my son. And you know,
Speaker 5: I'm sitting down there watching Tommy. I was the only
Speaker 5: parent doing so because I'm a die hard Dodger and
Speaker 5: it was unbelievable. So I'm you know, I don't have
Speaker 5: a lot of money, but you bet your booty and
Speaker 5: I'm going to try my best to take my son
Speaker 5: to one of these first two games. But what's your
Speaker 5: guys' opinion? Hypothetically if it's a game seven and you know,
Speaker 5: like say it's a zero zero ballgames, do you think,
Speaker 5: by any chance, if Otani goes up to Roberts and
Speaker 5: be like, you know what I want to pitch? Do
Speaker 5: you think we'll possibly see that? Like you know, you know, no,
Speaker 5: I cause I don't think so. But I'm hearing it
Speaker 5: around and it's not worth it in my opinion. But
Speaker 5: what do you think that conversation would be? Like if
Speaker 5: Otani and Roberts had that discussion.
Speaker 3: Just like we just had, it'd be that short. I mean,
Speaker 3: there is we could talk about other things, but to
Speaker 3: be labor that point, the answer is going to be Nope.
Speaker 3: That's it not exact question.
Speaker 1: Appreciate the phone call. I'm going to completely disagree with you,
Speaker 1: Steven Sacks. Really, I think that the door is not
Speaker 1: completely shut on Show. Hey Otani pitching in a world
Speaker 1: serious game, and it's not because they've alluded to it.
Speaker 1: It's not because they've left that door open. Dave Roberts
Speaker 1: has come out, Mark Pryor's been talked about it, Show
Speaker 1: Hay has been asked about it, and the consensus has been, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not going to pitch in October for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: But but are you talking about another October or you're
Speaker 3: talking about this one this October? No chance.
Speaker 1: He's throwing bullpen sessions. I know he's throwing long toss,
Speaker 1: he's throwing hard. He's mixing up his pitches in the bulb.
Speaker 1: It's not like baby steps first step coming back from
Speaker 1: arm injury. He is down the road in his rehabit.
Speaker 3: Someone says he's in the moment to they say show heye,
Speaker 3: you're in there. Okay, he goes in, he blows his
Speaker 3: arm out. Okay, now what, Oh my gosh. They would
Speaker 3: rip the city down and Dave Roberts would be gone. Yeah, seriously, No,
Speaker 3: you can't take that chance. Man, Let him they got enough.
Speaker 3: I think they got enough. Let get through this, win
Speaker 3: the World Series, let him rehab the whole winter, let
Speaker 3: him come back way strong next year. Now you've got
Speaker 3: a team that's just ripping to go. Oh yeah, but
Speaker 3: you know you're gonna get all those other guys back too.
Speaker 3: But you can't, like take that chance. Is it worth it?
Speaker 3: I mean, what would what would make you get him
Speaker 3: out there? What would it be? Mabe? There's two outs
Speaker 3: in the ninth and you get one hitter, Yeah, and
Speaker 3: you gotta get Soto out or you gotta get you know,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, is that what you do? I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if he blows it out.
Speaker 1: To me, it's if there's an opportunity to get him
Speaker 1: out there, if it's in a clenching situation, if it's
Speaker 1: in a situation where they could use him. I mean,
Speaker 1: if Showy Otani goes to Dave Roberts in the dugout
Speaker 1: and Mark Pryor tells the front office I want to pitch,
Speaker 1: Are they gonna say no? I mean, he gets what
Speaker 1: he wants. Yeah, it's up to him.
Speaker 3: Let's say he goes up there and he stinks up,
Speaker 3: the joint, doesn't blow his arm out, but he doesn't
Speaker 3: get anybody out. Oh now what.
Speaker 1: We'll show He wanted to pitch guys, He follows pitch,
Speaker 1: where's your MANAGERI and balls?
Speaker 5: Dave?
Speaker 3: Come on, you know you might hear that too, So
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just think it's way too risky,
Speaker 3: way too risky. I get the I mean it's like
Speaker 3: you got to throw in Rojas to, you know, to
Speaker 3: get somebody out because there's absolutely nobody left. They're not
Speaker 3: gonna make They're not gonna plan things out, so they
Speaker 3: got nobody. I mean, they're gonna have somebody left down there.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna like, like I said, Miguel Rojas isn't
Speaker 3: gonna go there and clean it up. They got to
Speaker 3: have somebody down there and it won't be show. Hey,
Speaker 3: I don't believe I'm what's tempting though, because it is
Speaker 3: just okay, what about this, let's really daydream now. Just
Speaker 3: think if it's you know, you're down to the last
Speaker 3: bit here and you don't even have a left hander
Speaker 3: down there that's even worthy, and you're thinking, okay, Judge
Speaker 3: is coming up, and and there's two guys on and
Speaker 3: judges coming up, and do you bring them in and
Speaker 3: it's the last out in the ninth inningto Game seven, Yes,
Speaker 3: do you bring him in? Yes? WHOA, I don't know, man,
Speaker 3: Can you imagine that what if something look at something
Speaker 3: like that happened, people would probably cash in their their
Speaker 3: their season tickets because they say it was it was
Speaker 3: rigged and it was phony, because nobody would buy that sucker.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they're not gonna pitch him, and he's
Speaker 1: not gonna want to pitch. If there's a chance he
Speaker 1: can reaggravate it. It's not ready. Of course, that will
Speaker 1: never happen. But if he feels like he's healthy enough,
Speaker 1: and it's just a matter of we're waiting till next
Speaker 1: season to give it the full start from spring training,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of hope there. There's a little
Speaker 1: bit of maybe if they can get him out there,
Speaker 1: he can pitch.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is a doctor decision. Now, they'll put it
Speaker 3: in the doctor's hands because because there's too much on
Speaker 3: the line, there's too much adrenaline going. We're in the moment,
Speaker 3: the pressure, Yes, he had the pressure, and they'll put
Speaker 3: it in the doctor's hands. And I guarantee you there
Speaker 3: is no doctor on this planet that's gonna say, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he hasn't pitched all year, but we'll throw me here
Speaker 3: in this situation where he's gonna try twenty times as
Speaker 3: hard it seems, and he's gonna try to throw two
Speaker 3: hundred miles an hour, and then they're gonna think, Man,
Speaker 3: if he blows this thing out, I just lost my
Speaker 3: license to be a doctor and all that. I just
Speaker 3: don't take his I don't think it's gonna happen. It's
Speaker 3: too risky, bro risky.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get I think this is something
Speaker 1: we get into more at the listeners tomorrow.
Speaker 3: We can ask him put out we should put out
Speaker 3: a poll right now and have it ready for tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll do that and we'll get to the phone
Speaker 1: calls tomorrow about this. I think it's an intriguing topic.
Speaker 3: It's a great it's a great conversation piece. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it really is.
Speaker 1: If Otani's available, you know you're he's not taking up
Speaker 1: a roster spot as far as a pitcher. He's already
Speaker 1: positioned player. So that's me.
Speaker 3: I've heard the same thing, Tim, I've heard people saying.
Speaker 3: I've heard o'tani he's gonna possibly make an appearance. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, he's not.
Speaker 1: I mean, Harold Reynolds from MLB Network basically said it
Speaker 1: during September. He expects him to pitch really based on
Speaker 1: what he thinks. Yeah, okay, Yeah, he's bullpen session, mixing
Speaker 1: up his pitches. It's not like he just ripped off
Speaker 1: a cast and it's like, all right, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: I just got this bad boy off. Let's try it.
Speaker 1: How he's been throwing like that, It's been a few months. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's throwing off flat ground, he's throwing off of mound.
Speaker 1: He's he's at that point where I'm I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll get into it.
Speaker 3: We'll get it.
Speaker 1: We'll put a poll question up. We'll get to the
Speaker 1: phone calls tomorrow. Jerry Royce is going to join his
Speaker 1: next game one, starter of the nineteen eighty one World Series. Yes,
Speaker 1: the last time the Dodgers and Yankee squared off. It's
Speaker 1: Saxon Kates in the am right here in hanfi seventy
Speaker 1: LA Sports. It's Saxon Kate's in the am here on
Speaker 1: a five to seventy LA Sports. You're a home of
Speaker 1: Shohyotani and the Los Angeles Dodgers, who are going back
Speaker 1: to the World Series. Game one against the New York
Speaker 1: Yankees coming up on Friday night while I Wrongo Casino
Speaker 1: Dodgers on Decade. It all started at four pm. First
Speaker 1: pitch coming up at five to oh eight is the
Speaker 1: twelfth head to head meeting between the Yankees and the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: a last met back in nineteen eighty one, the Dodgers
Speaker 1: winning that series and joining this now saxy one of
Speaker 1: your teammates back then, he was the Game one starter,
Speaker 1: as we heard in our Game one flashback back in
Speaker 1: our first hour of the show. Twenty one years in
Speaker 1: the major leagues. He played for the Dodgers. He played
Speaker 1: for eight different teams, A two time All Star, he
Speaker 1: pitched a no hitter back in nineteen eighty a World
Speaker 1: Series chap with these Dodgers in nineteen eighty one. He
Speaker 1: is Jerry Royce and he joins us now here on
Speaker 1: FI seventy LA Sports. Jerry, good morning, how you doing.
Speaker 7: Everything's good early in the morning, but I'm up and
Speaker 7: Adam had my two cups of coffee and ready to
Speaker 7: talk to you.
Speaker 1: And Steven, good morning, Jerry, love it, love it when
Speaker 1: you hear Yankees Dodgers, And this is the first meeting
Speaker 1: since well nineteen eighty one. What are some of the
Speaker 1: thoughts that go through you?
Speaker 7: Well? For me, growing up in the Midwest and becoming
Speaker 7: interested in baseball at about six or seven years old,
Speaker 7: I remember watching the fifty five and fifty six World
Speaker 7: Series on TV. Remember back then they had afternoon games,
Speaker 7: and I'd walked from school when it was out and
Speaker 7: go down to the local television store they actually had
Speaker 7: one in our small town, stand outside and watched the
Speaker 7: ballgame on what was then a big screen TV. And
Speaker 7: for men, that just started my love for the game
Speaker 7: of baseball.
Speaker 3: Jerry, I good to be with you. First of all,
Speaker 3: it's been a little while. Looking forward to seeing you again,
Speaker 3: hopefully at the camp coming up in January. I hope
Speaker 3: you're going to be there. But listen, I wanted to
Speaker 3: ask you a little bit about the differences between when
Speaker 3: you pitched and the complications the way they have now.
Speaker 3: I mean, playing behind you and I know the No
Speaker 3: hitter that you pitched against the Giants. I remember some
Speaker 3: of your games you throw six, maybe seven curveballs in
Speaker 3: the whole game, and your thing was let that fastball
Speaker 3: work within the zone, and it worked like a snake
Speaker 3: on a griddle. That thing moves so much you were
Speaker 3: able to go by with lots of times not throwing
Speaker 3: many offweed pitches.
Speaker 1: How did you do that?
Speaker 3: Number one? And what's the difference today with how complicated
Speaker 3: they make the pitching.
Speaker 7: Steve, That's an excellent question, and it's a little more
Speaker 7: complicated than the way you put it, but I'll simplify it.
Speaker 7: The best way possible can one is to have command
Speaker 7: of your fastball. That's what I taught as a coach.
Speaker 7: That's what I was taught during the whole course of
Speaker 7: my major league career by as many as fifteen or
Speaker 7: twenty pitching coaches. I was able to control it in
Speaker 7: the strike zone, and right around nineteen eighty I was
Speaker 7: able to develop the cut fastball that if I kept
Speaker 7: it right around the hitter's knees, it came in, as
Speaker 7: hitters would tell me, heavy and it has a late movement. Now,
Speaker 7: hitters always try to hit the ball and barrel it
Speaker 7: up and drive it somewhere, but they couldn't make the
Speaker 7: adjustment because of the late movement and due to the
Speaker 7: fact I had command of it in the strike zone.
Speaker 7: I could then go from the third base side of
Speaker 7: home plate to the first base side, change speeds on it,
Speaker 7: and in effect, one fastball was the equivalent to three
Speaker 7: or four different pitches. So it was the curveball that
Speaker 7: I used once in a while to get over the plate,
Speaker 7: to set up a hitter, to show them something just
Speaker 7: a little bit different, and to change his angle of
Speaker 7: his eyes as I was hoping to get him out
Speaker 7: with the basketball.
Speaker 1: Jerry, you got to start in Game one, Yankees won
Speaker 1: that game. You give up an early three run home
Speaker 1: run to Bob Watson. You come back in Game five
Speaker 1: and get the win. Over on on Gidry that Game
Speaker 1: one start, we played some of the highlights from that game.
Speaker 1: You guys were coming off the emotional win in Montreal.
Speaker 1: A couple days later, he was turning around in the
Speaker 1: Bronx playing Game one of that World Series. You had
Speaker 1: Joe Demajo throwing out the first pitch at Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the emotions of that Game one and
Speaker 1: what you were feeling like that on the mound for
Speaker 1: the Game one of the World Series.
Speaker 7: Yeah? Absolutely. And one of the things that this upcoming
Speaker 7: series reminds me of In fact, it's kind of dusted
Speaker 7: off some memories that were buried back in my mind. See,
Speaker 7: I don't think that much about what I did during
Speaker 7: my baseball career, and I think a lot of ballplayers
Speaker 7: will tell you the same thing, because it's a lot
Speaker 7: easier to look out your windshield than it is the
Speaker 7: rear view mirror when you're driving a car. It's the
Speaker 7: same thing. And remembering baseball, but going in the Yankee
Speaker 7: Stadium for the first time, we're walking on that turf
Speaker 7: and this was the same place where Ruth Gerrig and
Speaker 7: a number of future Hall of famers were going to play,
Speaker 7: and it got to me a little bit and it
Speaker 7: did affect me. But I don't make excuses about it,
Speaker 7: because they did get some pitches up. The Yankees were
Speaker 7: a formidable foe, and they took full advantage of everything
Speaker 7: with that hometown crowd and were able to get me
Speaker 7: out of the ballgame early in that game.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, Jerry, I wanted to ask you a little
Speaker 3: bit more about pitching because it fascinates me. This was
Speaker 3: always the nemesis in our lives of trying to beat
Speaker 3: down these pitchers. First of all, the fact that everybody
Speaker 3: throws a hundred today, and you know, I'm just maybe
Speaker 3: using a little hyperbole there, But for the most part,
Speaker 3: the guys seemed to throw around that level or the
Speaker 3: big you know, the big hosses on the team. I
Speaker 3: think they threw pretty much the same speed when we played,
Speaker 3: maybe over a little bit more now. But the differences
Speaker 3: between how they measure the ball coming out of the
Speaker 3: hand you know now and coming over the plate when
Speaker 3: you pitched, So what are the differences between the two
Speaker 3: measuring sticks?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 7: That's that's good. I'm surprised that you came up with that,
Speaker 7: because not many people are aware of that. No, it's
Speaker 7: an excellent question and a great point. A lot of
Speaker 7: times velocity was measured as the ball came across the
Speaker 7: plate and coming out of the pitcher's hand, it's totally
Speaker 7: different because it's a few miles an hour faster.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 7: I think guys more today muscle up and try to
Speaker 7: get the velocity and sacrifice a little bit of command
Speaker 7: on the other side. But I trained differently back in
Speaker 7: those days. And remember this is a long time in
Speaker 7: baseball history, and the starting pitcher you were trained and
Speaker 7: you had it in your mind that you're out there
Speaker 7: for nine innings, and anything less than that it wasn't
Speaker 7: as spectacular as what you plan to do and what
Speaker 7: you try to do. So you may sacrifice a little
Speaker 7: in velocity, some speed in order to locate your pitches
Speaker 7: just a little bit better, and went through the batting
Speaker 7: orders three and four times, so you had to plan
Speaker 7: just a little bit different. If you get somebody out
Speaker 7: early in the ballgame, for instance, a power hitter, and
Speaker 7: you him early in the game, second or third, anying
Speaker 7: nobody on base, you're not going to throw him the
Speaker 7: outpitch that you need to use later in the game
Speaker 7: with perhaps somebody on base and the game on the line.
Speaker 7: So it's a planning experience as well as executing experience
Speaker 7: later in the ballgame. And that's the mindset that I
Speaker 7: tried to go out there with. It didn't always succeed,
Speaker 7: but when it did, it made perfect sense to me.
Speaker 1: Jerry Royce is our guest here on ANFI seventy LA Sports,
Speaker 1: former Dodger World Series Champion nineteen eighty one, Game one starter,
Speaker 1: Game five starter against the New York Yankees. Both managers
Speaker 1: have talked about team chemistry this year, Dave Roberts has
Speaker 1: alluded to his group and buying in Aaron Boon. Yet
Speaker 1: it made a comment yesterday about this group. This chemistry
Speaker 1: on the Yankees is like nothing he's seen since he's
Speaker 1: been the manager in taking over in twenty eighteen, that
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one team, the chemistry he had a group
Speaker 1: of young players like a Steven Sacks who comes up
Speaker 1: and is helping out this Dodgers team, and a group
Speaker 1: of veterans who hadn't been able to beat the Yankees
Speaker 1: in prior World Series and finally do what was that
Speaker 1: chemistry like coming in a year before joining this team
Speaker 1: and ultimately getting over that hurdle of beating the Yankees.
Speaker 7: Well, you can divide that eighty one team into some subgroups.
Speaker 7: You're right on what you say, some veterans and some
Speaker 7: young players. But remember the core of the team, the infield,
Speaker 7: plus Steve Dieger and maybe one or two others as
Speaker 7: they said here, all came up through the organization. Many
Speaker 7: played in the seventy four, seventy seven, and seventy eight
Speaker 7: World Series and were unsuccessful. Then there was a group
Speaker 7: that was traded for that included Rick Monday, Reggie Smith
Speaker 7: in order to help the Dodgers get over the hump.
Speaker 7: They got over the hump, but they lost to the
Speaker 7: Yankees in seventy seven and seventy eight. And then some
Speaker 7: young players coming up through the organization as young players should,
Speaker 7: and that include Stephen and Tom Neidenfure and Mike Sooship.
Speaker 7: It could, but it was also the addition and this
Speaker 7: is the fourth group of guys that were traded for
Speaker 7: from other organizations to help form that twenty five man roster,
Speaker 7: and that included me. So it took some wily trades.
Speaker 7: It took some young players coming through the organization plus
Speaker 7: some veteran guys and all come together in a situation.
Speaker 7: It was a strike season, and there was an additional
Speaker 7: round of playoffs that we had to win. And we
Speaker 7: were down two games to none in a five game
Speaker 7: series against Houston, came back to beat him, were one
Speaker 7: game from elimination against Montreal in Montreal, and we're able
Speaker 7: to win thanks to Rick Monday's home run off Steve Rodgers.
Speaker 7: And then we fell to the Yankees the first two
Speaker 7: games in the World Series, only to come back and
Speaker 7: win three one run games at Dodger Stadium. Went back
Speaker 7: to New York. It was a totally different kind of
Speaker 7: situation for a World Series that saw better than fifty
Speaker 7: thousand people at Old Yankee Stadium. This time the crowd
Speaker 7: numbers were down, as it seemed as if the people
Speaker 7: of New York, the fans, the Yankees, were expecting to feed,
Speaker 7: and we were more than happy to oblige them, winning
Speaker 7: that sixth game and bringing a World championship home to
Speaker 7: Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, Jerry, I got to ask you this question.
Speaker 3: Well maybe I should say it like my New York
Speaker 3: friends in New York do.
Speaker 1: I got to ask you.
Speaker 3: Okay, look, Jerry, I got to find out the difference,
Speaker 3: and you can tell us, because you're a great specimen
Speaker 3: if you will to tell us this. Today people pitch
Speaker 3: one hundred innings, by that's it los of times, it's
Speaker 3: five and fly ten times. In your career, you pitched
Speaker 3: over two hundred innings. You pitched three thousand, six hundred
Speaker 3: and sixty nine and two thirds innings in your career.
Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy three, Tim get this, he pitched two
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy nine and a third innings. So two
Speaker 3: hundred innings for Jerry Royce was nothing. And remember, Jerry
Speaker 3: is a big dude. He's six ' five, all of that,
Speaker 3: and he's a strong guy. I remember, you know, people
Speaker 3: were saying, if it wasn't for that four years of
Speaker 3: high school, it would have kept Jerry out of the
Speaker 3: big league, so he would have had twenty six years
Speaker 3: in the big leagues. But Jerry, I gotta ask. I
Speaker 3: got to ask you, Jerry, what is the difference. Please
Speaker 3: educate us on how they pitch one hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: innings maybe, and they say, what a full season. Here
Speaker 3: you are in seventy three, two hundred and seventy nine
Speaker 3: innings and ten times over two hundred innings and many
Speaker 3: times way over two hundred innings.
Speaker 7: Well, I thank you for that big time pat on
Speaker 7: the back. But the guy she came before me, those
Speaker 7: guys sometimes went three hundred innings. Guys like Carlton and
Speaker 7: Gibson and sever Ferguson Jenkins. Those were the guys who
Speaker 7: set the tone for starting pitchers. They were out there
Speaker 7: every fourth or fifth day. Now, if you go back
Speaker 7: even a little bit further to the generation before that,
Speaker 7: these four starters, this is with the Dodgers, you would
Speaker 7: start a game rest today and then throw batting practice
Speaker 7: and then come back two days later and try to
Speaker 7: get your nine innings in. Now, it was definitely going
Speaker 7: to shorten a career, but it was just the way
Speaker 7: it was done back in the forties and early fifties.
Speaker 7: By the time I got to the big leagues, teams
Speaker 7: had five starters and you were still expected to go
Speaker 7: nine innings. If you lasted seven, and you had a
Speaker 7: pretty good relief core in place, you had a chance
Speaker 7: of doing some things during the course of the season.
Speaker 7: But the game has evolved over the time that both
Speaker 7: you and I have played, and their stints are shorter
Speaker 7: and they throw harder. They have a number of different
Speaker 7: pitches in their amimal belt that they can use during
Speaker 7: the ballgame. And that's just the way it's done today.
Speaker 7: Is it better, is it worse? I don't know. It's
Speaker 7: just the way that it's done.
Speaker 1: Well, Jerre, we appreciate you coming on this morning. Nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty one was a great year for the Dodgers beating
Speaker 1: the Yankees, and here we are forty three years later,
Speaker 1: it's the Dodgers and Yankees again in the Fall Classic.
Speaker 1: Are you anxious to see this one? Get started? On
Speaker 1: Friday night.
Speaker 7: At the start of this program, was dusted off some
Speaker 7: memories that I usually don't delve into. Just a little point.
Speaker 7: A little fact I'll leave you with is that the
Speaker 7: day of the game is October twenty fifth. Now, that's
Speaker 7: forty three years to the day that the Dodgers and
Speaker 7: the Yankees' last hookup and postseason in Los Angeles. I
Speaker 7: was the one who threw the last pitch in that ballgame.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, here we are here forty three years we
Speaker 1: are years later. Wow, Jerry, we appreciate the time. Great
Speaker 1: to hear your voice and uh yeah, Dodger fans certainly
Speaker 1: looking for the same result that you guys enjoyed in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one. Thanks for coming on with us this morning.
Speaker 7: Thanks Jerry, Tim, Tim, Thanks, thank you Steven. Always good
Speaker 7: to talk to you. Hope we see each other sooner
Speaker 7: rather than later.
Speaker 3: All right, okay, but thank you. There he goes the
Speaker 3: great Jerry Royce. Great teammate, Tim, Yeah, great teammate. Oh
Speaker 3: he was the best.
Speaker 1: He treated you well, young Steven Sacks in the clubhouse.
Speaker 3: So he was so great to me, he really was.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Jerry for joining us. Coming up, we'll wrap
Speaker 1: things up and we're gonna get into this heavy tomorrow
Speaker 1: the show. Hey O Taani, should he be available to
Speaker 1: pitch if needed? Something to think about, Dodger fans, Dodgers Yankees,
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Speaker 1: tonight we mentioned the Lakers tip off their regular season.
Speaker 1: Potentially we could see Lebron James and his son Bronnie
Speaker 1: James play in this same game, and it's a big
Speaker 1: deal to have a father and son play in a
Speaker 1: professional game together. Only the other time we've seen this
Speaker 1: in our lifetime and probably ever, is Ken Griffy Senior
Speaker 1: and Ken Griffy Junior, who Junior said him and his
Speaker 1: dad are going to be at the Lakers home opener
Speaker 1: tonight at Crypto dot Com Arena, just to have that
Speaker 1: opportunity to see it like they were able to play
Speaker 1: in a game together back in the day. Did you
Speaker 1: cross as at all with the Griffy Senior or junior
Speaker 1: in your playing time.
Speaker 3: I don't you know what, I think it was a
Speaker 3: little bit after me that that that happened.
Speaker 1: Ninety ninety one. They were teammates in Seattle, Okay, so.
Speaker 3: That was right in the middle. Yeah, and I was
Speaker 3: on the Yankees then too, So yeah, I don't really
Speaker 3: recall it that much though, but I know they hit
Speaker 3: a home run in the same game. I think, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: that that happened. That happened. But it's amazing thing. Have
Speaker 3: your dad and your son playing in the same game.
Speaker 3: I mean, that is like I can't even fathom that,
Speaker 3: you know, that's just unreal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is pretty so Lebron and his son.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a This is a huge deal.
Speaker 1: Uh, it is gonna be a big deal tonight. No doubt.
Speaker 1: You got the The A's another story I wanted to
Speaker 1: get to you real quick. The A's opening up or
Speaker 1: the A's are gonna play in that parking Sacramento where
Speaker 1: you call games there Saxony for the Triple A team.
Speaker 3: It's in West Sacramento, the city I grew up in,
Speaker 3: believe it or not, really in West Sacramento. I grew
Speaker 3: up on a farm southwest of Sacramento, and that is
Speaker 3: now where this built up part of that place is
Speaker 3: going to be played maybe three miles four miles from
Speaker 3: my house, no way, Yeah, right in West Sacramentos, same city.
Speaker 1: And you called games for them up there as well.
Speaker 3: I do. I call games for the Triple A team
Speaker 3: for the Giants. I do the Saturday home TV games.
Speaker 1: Very nice. And now the A's are moving there temporarily
Speaker 1: for a few seasons while their new ballpark in Las
Speaker 1: Vegas is being built. And the big story right now
Speaker 1: is Major League Baseball, which is basically funding a lot
Speaker 1: of the renovations to the stadium there, including clubhouses, new batters,
Speaker 1: eye and concessions. They're going to go with natural grass
Speaker 1: instead of artificial turf.
Speaker 3: That is the switch recently, because it was artificial turf
Speaker 3: in the beginning. But go ahead, and they made the
Speaker 3: decision because players were concerned with the heat in Sacramento. Yes,
Speaker 3: and the record breaking heat that was in Sacramento this summer.
Speaker 3: Apparently there was a twenty day stretch which the temperature
Speaker 3: never fell below one hundred degrees yet average up to
Speaker 3: one hundred and three, got up to eighteen.
Speaker 1: They don't want to have the artificial turf there because
Speaker 1: it's going to be so hot for the players during
Speaker 1: the summer months. Instead, they are gonna pivot and they're
Speaker 1: gonna put natural, natural grass in there. And one of
Speaker 1: the concerns about having natural grass initially was two teams,
Speaker 1: the Triple A teams still playing there and the Oakland
Speaker 1: A's are gonna be playing there are the A's and
Speaker 1: it get a lot of wear and tear on natural grass.
Speaker 1: Well this is a good move, right, It's well, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're gonna have a heck of a time
Speaker 3: keeping it nice. But that plane surface during the season here,
Speaker 3: even though it's hot, but it's gonna have half the
Speaker 3: beat down on it because every single day there's gonna
Speaker 3: be a game on that field. When the A's are
Speaker 3: out of town, the river Cats are gonna be playing
Speaker 3: and vice versa. But that that infield and that grass
Speaker 3: is like a pool table. It is beautiful. It is
Speaker 3: really a great and you know, even when I travel
Speaker 3: on back East and people ask about, you know, the
Speaker 3: Sacramento franchise and Triple A, it's it's like the standard bearer,
Speaker 3: if you will. Everybody wants to be like that. It's
Speaker 3: it's a great run place. They sell it out all
Speaker 3: the time, and you can imagine when the A's come here,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be there. It's already sold out like every.
Speaker 1: Game are they are they excited to have them?
Speaker 3: Forget it.
Speaker 1: With the A's coming though, there you also get who's
Speaker 1: playing the A's. They get to come in there, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna see Dodgers, Yeah Yankees. I mean this this
Speaker 1: town is like, you know, it was great when we
Speaker 1: got the Kings, but Sacramento is a baseball and boxing town.
Speaker 1: A lot of good boxers come from baseball and boxing.
Speaker 1: That's what Sacramento is known for. And of course when
Speaker 1: the Kings came here, we embraced them in basketball. But
Speaker 1: this is a baseball, notoriously baseball and boxing town. Now
Speaker 1: the Triple A affiliate, it's the affiliate of the Giants, right.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, the Triple A of the Giants, right.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're seeing a lot of the guys who
Speaker 1: who have been moved up to the Giants, and.
Speaker 3: Most of them, yeah, I called the games here. When
Speaker 3: I went to a Giants game, brought some friends, you know,
Speaker 3: about a month ago, two months ago, and most of
Speaker 3: them were all the Rivercats players that I was calling here.
Speaker 3: So a lot of them got called up to the Giants.
Speaker 3: That is very cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to see what it's gonna look like
Speaker 1: having a smaller stadium. And also keep in mind we're
Speaker 1: gonna get into this and maybe tomorrow the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Rays may not have a field to play in the
Speaker 1: Tropic Canda Field because the roof blew off during the
Speaker 1: last last hurricane.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: They're talking about playing maybe in Orlando, maybe going to
Speaker 1: Disney World where the Braves had their spring training. I
Speaker 1: mean they got well.
Speaker 3: They would probably like it because there's one way in
Speaker 3: and one way out of that ballpark and it's not
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, But you know what if
Speaker 3: you talk about blowing the roof off something. Can I
Speaker 3: make a quick note real quick before we go. I
Speaker 3: just got a text from a very very big time
Speaker 3: player that is gonna come on with this Wednesday or Thursday.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: I'm texting him the calling number for one of those days. Also,
Speaker 3: some look forward to can't wait for that Saxy great show.
Speaker 3: We'll do it again tomorrow, buddy, see you then, by
Speaker 3: all right, Thanks to Katie, thanks to Michelle, thanks to
Speaker 3: all you beat a bar of the show tomorrow. We'll
Speaker 3: hear from Freddie Freeman, Maximuncie, and of course we'll hear
Speaker 3: from the manager Dave Roberts. And we're gonna get more
Speaker 3: into show Aotani should he pitch in this world series.
Speaker 3: If need be the bullpen, we'll get into it. Thanks
Speaker 3: for joining us this morning. The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Speaker 3: is next.