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<v Speaker 2>calls on the board. And look at that, we got

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<v Speaker 2>calls on the board. Hey, we've got a call from

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<v Speaker 2>Bill who said he actually lives near Wayfarer's chapel. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>just because I was talking about that, I got to

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<v Speaker 2>take Bill first. Bill, welcome home, Hidine. How are you sir,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm well, thank you, How are you good? Good? I

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<v Speaker 2>got a note here that you live just a few

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<v Speaker 2>hundred yards from the chapel and that you were happy

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about landslides in the area.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir, yeah, In fact, we're about one hundred yards

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<v Speaker 3>from where Wayfarer's Chapel stood and our house was completely

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<v Speaker 3>was built in nineteen forty nine, originally designed by Frank

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<v Speaker 3>Lloyd Wright, and then the design that is there now

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<v Speaker 3>done by Lloyd Wright. And they wanted that site because

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<v Speaker 3>they wanted to be able to look at the Wayfarers Chapel,

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<v Speaker 3>another Lloyd Wright design. Once that is completed, got you?

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<v Speaker 2>Got you? And what has it been like to live

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<v Speaker 2>in a Lloyd Wright house?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>It's spectacular the way it's designed, the kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>great room. Uh, it makes it feel like it's just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of hanging in the air because you look out

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<v Speaker 3>towards Catalina Island. But the way he built it, it's

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<v Speaker 3>all glass with glass corners and everything, and it rises

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<v Speaker 3>above all the vegetation, so you just feel like you're

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<v Speaker 3>suspended out there looking out at all the nature. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's spectacular.

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<v Speaker 2>And and uh just amazing. And what what what's your

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<v Speaker 2>current status with everything that with with your home now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and that's the thing, you know, it really goes

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<v Speaker 3>on a home by home basis. Bat there we have

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<v Speaker 3>neighbors whose home have been completely destroyed torn in half

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five foot creass running through the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Multiple people that have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars

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<v Speaker 3>trying to rectify problems and then have to walk away,

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<v Speaker 3>and right next to them will be somebody whose house

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<v Speaker 3>is basically untouched, you know. And it goes back to

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<v Speaker 3>what you were saying. You know, it's all about what

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<v Speaker 3>it's been built on. And in that area, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's uh, you know, depending upon where you build at

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<v Speaker 3>greater or lesser depth, there is uh, you know, basically

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<v Speaker 3>solid rock, and the ones that seem to be closer

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<v Speaker 3>to that solid rock have less movement than the ones

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<v Speaker 3>that were built in area that you know, maybe it

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<v Speaker 3>was fill or you know, it had a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>uh set you know, silt settlement, you know, in a

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<v Speaker 3>canyon or something like that. So ours, thankfully was overbuilt

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<v Speaker 3>for whatever reason. And our although we inch closer to

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<v Speaker 3>beachfront property every day, ours has not sustained a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of damage. But we've had our close neighbors have to

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<v Speaker 3>leave because their houses are total.

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<v Speaker 2>So so you haven't actually lost gas or power, so

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're still in your place, even though so

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have experienced some shifting, some some movement, but

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<v Speaker 2>not enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, no, it's our property is kind of three tiered,

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<v Speaker 3>so and it graduates up the hill. Our house is

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<v Speaker 3>at the top of the property and was cut into

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<v Speaker 3>the hillside, so it's a cut lot. So there hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>been much movement there. But down on the bottom part

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<v Speaker 3>of our property it's moved feet towards uh, the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>So that makes sense. The house itself is cut into

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<v Speaker 2>the hillside into some solid area, so the house itself

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't move, but but you've lost portions of your lower property.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly correct. And like the numbers that you were giving,

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<v Speaker 3>the seven inch a week and stuff like that, that's

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<v Speaker 3>an average number, you know. So there were areas that

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<v Speaker 3>were moving twelve inches a week, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 3>areas that were moving you know, almost nothing. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>great variants. But I truly think out of this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to come at least I hope engineering that will allow,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, structures to exist in places kind of like this,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like a surfboard on a wave in a way,

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<v Speaker 3>because the you know, it's not the first time the

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<v Speaker 3>land has moved back there, and so there has been

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<v Speaker 3>some engineering done on some of the houses that is

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<v Speaker 3>completely avant garde and yet completely affect and allows them

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<v Speaker 3>to remain essentially untouched, you know, throughout all of this.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm I think that that will be the case.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, we uh, we have lost gas, We've lost electricity.

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<v Speaker 3>We've lost our electricity second of September, so we're essentially

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<v Speaker 3>completely off the grid with solar and wow, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>propane and pellet stoves and wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're camping next to the next to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Water, wow, in a in an absolute amazing helm at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time. And you know, by the way, Billy,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right about that. I mean, there, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure that there's engineering that that can resolve any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of crisis. But uh, you know, the the big thing,

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<v Speaker 2>as I was saying before about Portuguese Bend, is that

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<v Speaker 2>the condition was always there. It's just that nobody really

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<v Speaker 2>knew about it. And so it's one thing to build

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<v Speaker 2>in an area where you're fully conscious of all of

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, surrounding conditions. It's another area to build

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<v Speaker 2>a conventional house with a conventional foundation in an area

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<v Speaker 2>that has unconventional ground movement and you just didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and that's That's one of those significant problems, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>in that area, is that so many of those homes

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<v Speaker 2>were built just normal without really being conscious of what

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<v Speaker 2>was going on deep underneath.

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<v Speaker 3>Them, right, and and a lot of them people thought,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they had reports and stuff saying, well, the

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<v Speaker 3>land movement has stopped, and you know that it turned

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<v Speaker 3>out to, you know, just be a fallacy. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so those people, you know, have have really suffered because

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<v Speaker 3>they moved into an area where they were hoping to

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<v Speaker 3>have their dream and through no fault of our own,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do believe through fault of maybe geologic reports,

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<v Speaker 3>city allowing building to exist where it shouldn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they've they've you know, had that dream the least compromised,

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<v Speaker 3>if not you know, changed altogether. And it's really a shame.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed. Well, Bill, I am glad that you guys, at least,

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<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that you're completely off the grid in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of southern California. I'm glad that currently your

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<v Speaker 2>place is is where it's at and not shifting, even

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<v Speaker 2>though you've lost your property. And thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for calling in and giving us an update on everything

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<v Speaker 2>that's happening. Bill lives just a few hundred yards from

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<v Speaker 2>Wayfarer's chapel site everything I was talking about this morning, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks so much, buddy. I really appreciate the call, and

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. And if you and Tina ever want to

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<v Speaker 3>come out and see unmolested did Frank Wood write junior

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<v Speaker 3>house existing as it was built in nineteen forty nine?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, bye, hey, do me a favor. Honestly, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to take you up on that. Do me a

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<v Speaker 2>fake because we're down there all the time. Do me

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<v Speaker 2>a favor and go to house Whisper dot Design and

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<v Speaker 2>drop me a note and I'll reach out to you

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<v Speaker 2>and and we'll do it. I would love to just

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<v Speaker 2>do a report in general, love to see the house,

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<v Speaker 2>love to do a report on what's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the area in general. So reach out and I'll reach

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<v Speaker 2>back and we'll make it happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool. Keep doing what you do. Love your show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Bill, Thank you so much. Buddy. Well there you

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<v Speaker 2>go right there. It's tragic. It's tragic anyway, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>when we come back. More of your calls your home

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<v Speaker 2>with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. Yay bye Dean sharp

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<v Speaker 2>the house whisper at your service. This is my beautiful house,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is my beautiful wife right there. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what you're talking about, talking heads. That was stupid,

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<v Speaker 2>That really was. It's early. It's still early. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>first day of February. I'm allowed. I'm allowed. Actually every

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<v Speaker 2>week people count on it. Deane's going to say something

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<v Speaker 2>stupid today. Let's just wait and see what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, h we're taking calls and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>get back to the phones. I want to talk to Sherry. Hey, Sherry,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome home.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you good morning? I am well, how are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Great? Great? I'm having an issue with my bathroom LED

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<v Speaker 4>lights and all of a sudden they started. They were

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<v Speaker 4>on a gimmer switch. All of a sudden at nighttime,

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<v Speaker 4>I turn them off and I get up in the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of the night and there was a little light

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<v Speaker 4>coming from them, but all them electrician. They replaced dow

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<v Speaker 4>of the lights and guess what they started coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>They're doing the same orn thing. So then he said

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<v Speaker 4>it was a switch that I the himmer switch was

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<v Speaker 4>incompatible with the LEDs, so he just replaced the switch

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<v Speaker 4>to a normal just switch and guess what one of

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<v Speaker 4>the lights is doing it? Again, I have no clue.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so after replacing some of the lights, it still happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and then after replacing the dimmer, now one of them

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<v Speaker 2>is still doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm uh So what kind of well, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you stuff that you don't have a clue about,

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<v Speaker 2>but okay, So what you're talking about is sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 2>called after glow. Sometimes it's called ghosting led ghosting, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are different there are a couple of different versions

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<v Speaker 2>of it, just so everybody knows. It is not uncommon,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for older LEDs or I should say older and

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<v Speaker 2>or these days cheaper LED lights. They have a luminescent

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<v Speaker 2>at all after you flicked off and the switch for

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<v Speaker 2>battery that was still stored in the light lens itself,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has a little bit of glow, like a

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<v Speaker 2>and it lasts for a little while and then it

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<v Speaker 2>goes off. But you're talking about a different kind of

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<v Speaker 2>ghosting or after glow, which is not something that fades away.

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<v Speaker 2>You turn the light off and then you get up

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night and you can still

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<v Speaker 2>see it on there. That and that almost always all

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. There could be something wrong with the wire,

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<v Speaker 2>but I really doubt it. I really doubt it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hardly ever a wiring issue. Ever. It is usually either

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<v Speaker 2>a fixture itself or b the switch, especially a dimmer

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<v Speaker 2>And so all I can tell you is that that

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<v Speaker 2>yet again. Or here you could try this instead of

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<v Speaker 2>using a dimmer switch. You can just put a standard

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<v Speaker 2>whether you get any after glow whatsoever. Okay, because that

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is with this, people don't realize that a

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<v Speaker 2>increase the light. And sometimes the low end literally LEDs

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<v Speaker 2>the low end of a dimmer is just literally not

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<v Speaker 2>low enough. In other words, it has dropped it down.

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<v Speaker 2>But if there's still a trickle, just a tiny, tiny

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<v Speaker 2>trickle of energy running through the dimmer switch in any

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<v Speaker 2>way shape or form, an led may pick it up

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<v Speaker 2>and show a tiny bit of a glow, not perceivable

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<v Speaker 2>like during the daytime, but in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 2>in pitch darkness, you can see that there is still

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<v Speaker 2>this tiny little glow happening. It's nothing serious, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a concern like, oh, something's wrong and my

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<v Speaker 2>house is going to burn down or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, so, So here's the thing I would

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<v Speaker 2>if you've already changed out the light fixtures once and

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<v Speaker 2>there's still one that's doing it, I wonder, I would

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<v Speaker 2>wonder actually if that one in the chain of lights

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<v Speaker 2>that you have up on your ceiling is I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if it's the first one in line by way of wiring.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't be able to tell just by looking up

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<v Speaker 2>on the ceiling because you don't know where the wire

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<v Speaker 2>goes to first. But I wonder if it isn't the

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<v Speaker 2>first one in line with the output from the switch,

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<v Speaker 2>because that would typically be the case and whatever tiny

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<v Speaker 2>little trickle of energy is still there, then it's picking

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<v Speaker 2>it up and the others aren't getting it. So I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, attempt to replace the dimmer yet again, go

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<v Speaker 2>with a different brand. Definitely had an LED compatible, but

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<v Speaker 2>if the lustron switch, go with a different brand of switch.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's not a loutron, then try a loutron. Try

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<v Speaker 2>can't get it to shut down completely in for a test.

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<v Speaker 2>You could pop in just temporarily in a standard on

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<v Speaker 2>off switch, no dimmer, okay, because an on off switch

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<v Speaker 2>is a total power cut total, So you click it

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<v Speaker 2>off and it's off. And if you find that you

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<v Speaker 2>one night, go back into the bathroom at night, look

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<v Speaker 2>up and if there are if there's still a glowing light,

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<v Speaker 2>then there's power trickling in there from somewhere else, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is a wiring issue. But I would my guess

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<v Speaker 2>switch in there, then all the powers been cut off

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<v Speaker 2>and there will be nothing. You'll see darkness on your ceiling,

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<v Speaker 2>just like you would expect. And what that tells you

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<v Speaker 2>is to is that, for whatever reason, the dimmers that

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<v Speaker 2>you've been using aren't dropping the voltage for those LEDs

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<v Speaker 2>all the way to zero, and there's been a trickle

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<v Speaker 2>of charge passing through, So try another dimmer because the

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<v Speaker 2>right dimmer will shut it down.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's interesting because because the gimmer switch was replaced

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<v Speaker 4>with a regular on off switch and that fixed one

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<v Speaker 4>of the other problems. You know, one of the lights

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<v Speaker 4>which was staying on. But now I think it's the

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<v Speaker 4>first light that the guy replaced that's coming on. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean it's staying on. It's not as bright as the

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<v Speaker 2>So so you so it was replaced with an on

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<v Speaker 2>off and there's still a glow. Yes, yes, okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>then then you've got to talk to your electrician about

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that there is some phantom current getting into

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<v Speaker 2>that system somehow, somehow that's not coming just from the switch.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is something wiring that needs to be looked at,

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<v Speaker 2>a wiring issue, because there is some because an on

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<v Speaker 2>off switch cuts the power, and if that is detecting

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of residual glow, then there is power into

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<v Speaker 2>that circuit apart from the switch access and so have

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<v Speaker 2>electrician look at it. Whether you're electrician or whether you

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk to somebody else, I'm not sure, but

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<v Speaker 2>have them take a serious look at where else power

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<v Speaker 2>could be getting into that line, because it's on or

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<v Speaker 2>it's off, the power is there or it's not. And

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<v Speaker 2>if it's if there's still residual power. LEDs are super

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<v Speaker 2>sensitive they might pick it up. And so there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the best I can tell you, Sherry, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for calling. I think you're on the right

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<v Speaker 3>Hi Jean.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, we're good. We're good.

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<v Speaker 5>I live in a townhome community on Justin Ranch golf

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<v Speaker 5>Course and I have a fire sprinkler system in my

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four hundred square foot home. And when I replaced

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<v Speaker 5>a smoke detector, I found that I had to replace

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<v Speaker 5>all of them. I guess they're all connected and communicating

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<v Speaker 5>with each other, and it made me wonder. It made

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<v Speaker 5>me wonder about the sprinkler system. What would take to

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<v Speaker 5>cause for that to go off? Is it communicating also

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<v Speaker 5>with the smoke detectors and with the fire department be notified?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good question. Good question. I can answer two out

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<v Speaker 2>of three of those questions for it. So number one, No,

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<v Speaker 2>your smoke detector system is not connected to your sprinkler system. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Your smoke detector system is communicating with itself. Smoke detection

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<v Speaker 2>is just that and the alarms are inside your place

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<v Speaker 2>to alert you to the presence of smoke. And very

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<v Speaker 2>very rarely are smoke detectors connected to outside services because

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<v Speaker 2>you know they go they'll go off for a number

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons. The whole point of a smoke detector is

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully to alert you to the presence of something starting

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<v Speaker 2>to brew that you can deal with without calling the

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<v Speaker 2>fire department. So smoke detectors never communicate directly to communic

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<v Speaker 2>emergency services. Some fire sprinkler systems are set up to

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<v Speaker 2>do that, and I couldn't tell you whether yours is

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<v Speaker 2>or not. You should look at the branding plate or

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<v Speaker 2>any information that you've got on your specific system at

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<v Speaker 2>the manifold, call the company and say, hey, this situation

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<v Speaker 2>am I hooked up to Actually does this go to

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<v Speaker 2>emergency services? Or is this just happening inside my house?

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<v Speaker 2>That part I couldn't tell you, but you can find

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<v Speaker 2>out pretty easily. As far as smoke detecting and fire

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<v Speaker 2>sprinklers go, I can explain that to you super simple.

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<v Speaker 2>Smoke detectors have what's called an obscuration rating. So what

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<v Speaker 2>does that mean. It means that there's a tiny light

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<v Speaker 2>emitter and receiver inside a smoke detector and a space

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<v Speaker 2>in between, and what it's waiting for. The receiver is

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there reading one hundred percent of the light that's

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<v Speaker 2>coming across this little gap and smoke gets up in

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<v Speaker 2>the detector and it obscures that amount of light. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>how sensitive are they. Well, different smoke detectors have different

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<v Speaker 2>levels of sensitivity, but most, i am told, work under

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<v Speaker 2>obscurations of just under one percent up to about thirteen percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you can get different details from other people, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is sort of just like a science

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<v Speaker 2>trivia fact. It's not like, oh, I see thirteen percent,

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's very meaningful to me. Well it's not clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>But the point is this smoke gets up in there

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<v Speaker 2>and it obscures the vision. That's why. Sometimes it's not

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<v Speaker 2>even smoke. It's not like these things are smelling for smoke.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes a smoke detector gets set too close to a

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom and you take a hot, steamy shower, open up

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom door, all that steam pours out, and suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>the smoke detector goes off. It's steam, it's not smoke,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's capable temporarily of obscuring that little light beam,

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<v Speaker 2>and therefore it goes off. And they are very sensitive,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's their job. That's the smoke detector. And

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<v Speaker 2>as far as your sprinklers go, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>think that sprinklers. A lot of people don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>get sprinklers in their house because they're scared that if

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<v Speaker 2>they burn the fish on the skillet in the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 2>that all of their fire sprinklers are going to go

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<v Speaker 2>off and flood their house. Fire sprinklers don't work off

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<v Speaker 2>of smoke at all. Zero fire sprinklers are only a

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<v Speaker 2>temperature sensitive situation, So no fire sprinkler is going to

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<v Speaker 2>fire because too much smoke built up in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>A fire sprinkler fires off a little glass vial that

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<v Speaker 2>with a liquid in it is plugging the whole of

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<v Speaker 2>the fire sprinkler head individual heads, not the whole system.

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<v Speaker 2>It's head for head for head. So if there's a

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<v Speaker 2>fire in the living room, the sprinklers in the bedroom

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<v Speaker 2>are not going to fire and flood the bedroom. It

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<v Speaker 2>is looking for a temperature somewhere between one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five to one hundred and sixty five degrees fahrenheit.

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<v Speaker 2>So up at the ceiling line where that fire sprinkler

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<v Speaker 2>is once temperature and the theory is that this is

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<v Speaker 2>temperature rays because there's actually a fire down below, not

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<v Speaker 2>just smoke, a flame producing that kind of heat boom

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<v Speaker 2>the vial, The liquid in the vial boils, it bursts

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<v Speaker 2>the vial, and the sprinkler head is then free to

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<v Speaker 2>douse the area where the fire is burning. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>fire sprinklers work versus how smoke detectors work. Smoke detectors

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<v Speaker 2>are warning only. Fire sprinklers are an active action against

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<v Speaker 2>a flame and have no relationship to smoke. You can

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<v Speaker 2>smoke all around, you can burn the toast right underneath

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<v Speaker 2>a fire sprinkler. You're never going to set it off.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, very interesting, very insightful. I really appreciate your time

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<v Speaker 5>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you no problem do you think?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you think those sprinklers would have helped any of

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<v Speaker 5>the victims of the fires protect their.

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<v Speaker 2>Home, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt, not all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So because well, I'll tell you this. I will tell

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<v Speaker 2>you this in all candor. If a home has, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the things being equal, if those homes in the

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<v Speaker 2>Palisades had a combination of the ember resistant vents and

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<v Speaker 2>fire sprinklers for the interior, then most of them would

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<v Speaker 2>have survived. And I'll tell you why. Because the problem

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<v Speaker 2>is either flames getting inside the house or embers getting

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<v Speaker 2>inside the attic. Embers being stopped by getting in the attic.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what ember resistant vents are all about. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>first line of defense. Eight out of ten homes won't

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<v Speaker 2>burn because of mber resist in vents, because eight out

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<v Speaker 2>of ten homes burn not because the fire is there,

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<v Speaker 2>but because the embers have blown in from nearby. So

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<v Speaker 2>the fire resistant vents are number one. That's what keeps

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<v Speaker 2>the flames from starting in the attic. But otherwise one

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<v Speaker 2>the fire actually arrives at a house. Now, the flames

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<v Speaker 2>are just outside the outside of most homes. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>some homes are made out of wood siding and need

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<v Speaker 2>to be protected and upgraded, but most homes, like a

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<v Speaker 2>stucco home, a stucco home is a fire raided hoading

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<v Speaker 2>on the outside of a home. So I've said this before.

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<v Speaker 2>Heat will heat up a window and the glass will

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<v Speaker 2>shatter if it's not fire rated glass. And now the

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<v Speaker 2>flames have a chance to lick inside. But even at

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<v Speaker 2>that flames licking inside a room, that's where the interior

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<v Speaker 2>fire sprinklers would fire. They would feel that temperature heat,

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<v Speaker 2>they would activate and they would keep the flames from

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<v Speaker 2>coming inside the house. The inside of the house is

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<v Speaker 2>the vulnerable spot. The outside of most homes not that vulnerable, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>not relatively speaking. I'm not saying that they don't burn,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're not that vulnerable. Far far more vulnerable the inside.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you've got a sprinkler system inside damping down

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<v Speaker 2>anything that gets inside the house, your chances of that

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<v Speaker 2>structure surviving are excuse me, frog in my throat, your

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<v Speaker 2>chance of that structure surviving are significantly, significantly increased. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to go through all these wild gizmos

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<v Speaker 2>and creative a so called creative ideas about how to

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<v Speaker 2>protect a home. You just have to follow the basics,

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<v Speaker 2>execute the fundamentals, okay, Ember resistant vents, fire, sprinklers inside

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<v Speaker 2>a home. Brilliant idea. And there you go, John, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for your call, buddy, really really great questions.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, more, when we return your home with Dean Sharp,

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<v Speaker 2>the house whisper kaf I, Dean Sharp, the house whisper,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome home. Well, here we are at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>another couple hours spent together, always a pleasure and a privilege.

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<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to talk to you about another historic

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<v Speaker 2>structure in some design News. I think maybe I'll start

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow's show off with this. I wanted to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you about Notre Dame, the cathedral in Paris and what

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<v Speaker 2>it has undergone. I wanted to kind of set it

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<v Speaker 2>up as a parallel to Wayfarers, but I also wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to take calls and give you all the info about

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<v Speaker 2>Wayfarer's chapel and what it meant to me and what

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<v Speaker 2>it still means to me. So we will we will

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<v Speaker 2>find the time to do that, and we will do

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<v Speaker 2>it in the big show tomorrow, by the way, Tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to that little bit of design insight in news,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be talking about the Consumer Electronics Show, which,

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<v Speaker 2>if you live in southern California, just Bruise, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just blue By, because our attention has been focused on wildfires.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow the best of CES for Homes. It happened just

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, and I'll give you my

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<v Speaker 2>full review on all the cool stuff that came out

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<v Speaker 2>of CES. There. Big year, Big year for CES. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to want to miss it. All the new

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<v Speaker 2>smart home technology that's coming. Plus we'll start with talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Notre Dame Cathedral and some thoughts on that, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course your calls that all happens tomorrow. That's it

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<v Speaker 2>for us today. Follow us on social media TikTok, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 2>your home is in need of some personal attention by

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<v Speaker 2>the house Whisper, you can book an in home design

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<v Speaker 2>back here tomorrow nine to noon. Until then, get out

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<v Speaker 2>there and get busy building yourself a beautiful life. This

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