WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:04.719 Well that's. 2 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:07.839 All right. 3 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:14.199 So we're talking about Primate, yeah, which is a film 4 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:17.440 about a rabbit chimpanzee. And I apologize I got some 5 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:20.280 details wrong when I was on your show talking to Yeah, 6 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:25.760 this was Hawaii, not Southeast Asia. Gets bit by a rabbit, 7 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:32.560 mangoo starts attacking people in theory. Seems okay, Yeah, seems. 8 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:34.920 Oh no, waiter you telling me that it's less than okay? 9 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:38.719 Yes, I am oh no, you like this? 10 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:40.119 This is I loved this film. 11 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:46.200 No going to be I'm telling you, man, I just there. 12 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:46.960 There was not. 13 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:53.399 I I just wanted it to be over. And this 14 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:55.880 is like an hour and twenty three minutes. Dude, this 15 00:00:55.960 --> 00:01:01.880 is this is like a this is like a him Belushi. Yeah, length, 16 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:06.319 you know, like this, there's nothing to this straight. This 17 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:09.560 is this is a this is a season ten Walking Dead, 18 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:12.079 This is a season five Stranger Things. 19 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:14.239 And like I still was like, oh. 20 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:18.159 Man, I just I cannot. I thought it was hokey. 21 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:21.239 I thought it was I didn't. I didn't really care 22 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:24.519 for the chimp how he was portrayed, like as far 23 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:30.239 as like you know, the realistic yeah, special effects, I 24 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:34.079 guess ye, make sure practical, Yeah exactly. I couldn't get 25 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:37.560 into that. I thought it was predictable, and god forbid, 26 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:40.959 I say anything is predictable to you, Yeah, because you 27 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:41.560 are the King. 28 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:44.000 Yeah, nothing will catch you off guard in this movie. 29 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:47.200 Right, No, it it just was. It did nothing for me. 30 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:52.959 This this movie did nothing for me. Troy Katzer, Uh, 31 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:58.000 I think it's Katzer it looks like but yeah, uh 32 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:03.680 an Academy Award winning Yeah actor. The fact that he 33 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:09.439 was in this film was just I mean, it's a 34 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:12.039 slap in the face to cinema that you're wasting this 35 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:15.400 guy's talents in this. And then Rob Delaney, who I 36 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:18.360 had high hopes for now. Granted I knew he was 37 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:20.599 uncredited in this film and he was hardly in it, 38 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:23.240 but I thought like, oh, there, maybe there'll be some 39 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:24.000 comic relief. 40 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:26.199 No there was none. 41 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:27.080 No, there wasn't. 42 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:31.800 I just there was nothing. And maybe I just don't 43 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:34.840 like this type of movie. There's nothing for me here. 44 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:36.639 I'm going to start here. I'm looking this up for 45 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:40.280 the first time. Rotten Tomatoes has it, critics eighty, audiences 46 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:42.400 seventy two. Yeah, I'm right, you're wrong. I think we 47 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:43.280 can agree with you said. 48 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:47.199 I looked this up before I saw the film, yeah, 49 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:48.719 and I was like, Okay, there should be some good 50 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:50.560 parts in this Yeah, and I didn't like it. And 51 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:52.080 then I had to go back and look. I was like, 52 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:54.159 maybe I read Rotten Tomatoes wrong. 53 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:55.000 No, I didn't. 54 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:57.759 No more out of five people or three out of four, 55 00:02:57.800 --> 00:02:59.680 and audiences loved it. And I have to say, I 56 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.360 think there's one thing that he's either going to make 57 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:04.199 you love or hate this movie. So let me give 58 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:07.919 you some perspective. I went into this movie thinking that 59 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.879 it was gonna be essentially Moby Dick, like the whole 60 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:13.039 not the whole premise, but a large premise of what 61 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:16.879 Moby Dick is is that is that the fishermen are 62 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:19.360 trying to catch this giant whale, and they almost make 63 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:22.560 it personal. Meanwhile, the whale is just doing whale things, 64 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:24.840 like it's not an enemy, it's not a villain, it 65 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:29.280 has no nefarious intentions. It's an animal, and you're ascribing 66 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:32.039 these human characteristics to an animal. That's what I thought 67 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:34.879 we were going into. It was gonna be primates that 68 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:37.879 gets rabies, that is acting within its within It's like 69 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:40.919 what happens when you get rabies, and that's like you're 70 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:43.199 not gonna be You're not gonna hate the monkey though, 71 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:45.479 You're gonna be like, ah, it's just an animal. Maybe 72 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:48.400 you shouldn't have a pet chimp, but at the end 73 00:03:48.439 --> 00:03:50.280 of the day, it's an animal and these are the risks. 74 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:52.520 But no, they didn't take it that route. And there's 75 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:54.680 one point where one person dies and I'm not gonna 76 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:56.400 say how they die, because it was awesome. There's one 77 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:58.879 point when one person dies and I'm sitting there and 78 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:00.479 the monkey's sitting on the edge of the pool, and 79 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:04.080 I'm like, is that monkey laughing that he just killed someone? 80 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:05.520 And I was like, that must be in my head? 81 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:08.560 And then it kept going. I'm like, no, it's relishing it. 82 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:12.719 And it almost gave the monkey sadistic qualities as a 83 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:16.639 result of the rabies. And I loved that spin that 84 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:19.639 I absolutly because like the whole that's forty minutes into 85 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:21.480 the movie that I'm talking about the whole time, like 86 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:23.600 this is what I think I'm gearing up for. Then 87 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:25.680 all of a sudden that happens. Then you see him 88 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:27.720 start to take joy in other death sines and I'm like, 89 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:29.040 oh no, this. 90 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:32.199 Is a just get like like you said, say is 91 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:37.319 a sadistic sort of approach to torturing people, yeah, and 92 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:39.040 in some cases killing people. 93 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.199 And there was a there's a straight to Hulu movie 94 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:45.600 called Slother House, which which describes exactly what it is 95 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:47.800 right came out either last year or two years ago, 96 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:50.240 and in it there's a killer sloth. And I'm sitting 97 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.920 there thinking, Okay, the movie's gonna make you think the 98 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:55.839 sloth is killing people, but in reality, it's gonna be 99 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:58.519 the owner of the sloth who's messing around, and it's 100 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:00.839 gonna be some kind of plot twist. About halfway through 101 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:04.040 that movie, the sloth starts taking selfies of itself while 102 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:07.279 it's killing someone, and I'm like, I'm like, oh, okay, 103 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:09.240 this is a good movie. Never Mind, I didn't realize 104 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:09.959 that I was watching it. 105 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:12.839 I mean, like, I get like, we go to escape 106 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:17.079 and and we go to suspend disbelief or whatever, but 107 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:21.199 like the the whole rabies aspect of it, and and 108 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:24.879 then this this, I mean, clearly this chimp, the chimp 109 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:27.319 was really smart. We that was set up in the 110 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:30.959 opening credits that this is a brilliant chimpanzee who worked 111 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:34.959 with brilliant people to get him to communicate. 112 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:36.439 And and and he was very, very smart. 113 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:38.560 The wife slash mother, who was not in this movie, 114 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:40.160 I assume she passed. I might have missed it in 115 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:43.160 the story. She died of cancer, okay, perfect. She was 116 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.600 a speech pathologist. So that's kind of the the rationale 117 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:48.560 they give for why this monkey straight up. And what's 118 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:50.399 funny is in the opening scene of the movie, or 119 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:52.720 one of the opening scenes, he's pushing buttons on a 120 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:54.800 thing like Lucy, Hello, Hello. 121 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:56.920 It's it's like a communication thing. 122 00:05:57.079 --> 00:05:59.160 Yeah, like that you would give to certain people who 123 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.959 are heavyly have you on the autism spectrum? Yeah, they 124 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:05.959 can't vocalize, so they pressed the picture of what they're 125 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:06.839 trying to communicate. 126 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:09.639 Yes, And in my inner monologue when they showed the 127 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:11.920 monkey using it in one of the opening scenes, my 128 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:14.079 owner monologue goes, if this is a good movie, he's 129 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:15.600 gonna use that to talk shit later. 130 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:18.839 And sure enough I didn't pick up on that, but 131 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:21.040 it makes sense I should have picked up on that. Well. 132 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:23.199 I didn't think it was actually gonna happen, because again, 133 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:27.120 this movie both took its tell like it took itself seriously, 134 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:28.759 but then it had funny moments. I don't know if 135 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:29.399 you saw Coked, I. 136 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.079 Don't think it toks itself seriously at all. 137 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:33.680 Oh no, I don't, I don't, I don't at all. 138 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:36.160 I think this was a farce. It was a monkey. 139 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:40.160 Now go watch Cocaine Bear and tell me the Cocaine Bear. 140 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:42.759 Like you thought that that movie took its at all. 141 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:45.079 I'm saying in that movie, someone would die and I'd 142 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.000 be like, well, I didn't know a bear could climb 143 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:49.240 a tree. Like, it's not like life is a Marvel movie. 144 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:51.600 You're not gonna be quipping after you watch somebody die. 145 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:53.800 It kind of undercuts. And I even said, when I 146 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:56.040 walked out a Cocaine Bear and I realized how ridiculous 147 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.519 it sounds, I said, I wish it took itself more seriously, 148 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:00.600 because it's a cool premise to could have been fun 149 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:02.600 if you would have made it a true horror. This 150 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:06.439 doesn't pull its punches. It's graphic. I was uncomfortable at times. 151 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:08.079 I was in a pack theater bulky. There was not 152 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:10.360 a scene open in the in the house. I went 153 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:12.360 a little later because it's not on many screens, so 154 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:13.839 I went a little later in the day. A little 155 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:17.879 more achievable for a larger audience to attend, as opposed 156 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:20.079 to going at like one twenty in the afternoon when 157 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:23.600 I normally go. But it was a packed theater and 158 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:27.360 what was that experience? Everyone was jumping, they were nervous. 159 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:30.079 I joked on my show, I said, were there that 160 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:32.079 many jump scares? Yeah, I'll tell you what. 161 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:34.680 I didn't jump, but there was there was unease, and 162 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.519 I think some people just this was something for them 163 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:39.480 that maybe they don't do a lot of horror, and 164 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:41.839 they decided to kind of step outside a little bit, 165 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:42.279 and it's. 166 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:42.839 Like, oh my god. 167 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:45.160 I didn't expect these kind of moments. There was one 168 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:47.120 in particular that hit me pretty hard, but I can't 169 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:49.040 remember what it was now offhand, all. 170 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:51.519 Right, So so nothing I did not. I can tell 171 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.120 you unequivocally. I did not jump once in this movie, 172 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:59.639 okay once. Some of the scares in this film. Do 173 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:04.399 you remember remember what's the Patrick Wilson scary movie series Insidious? 174 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:05.000 Yes? 175 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:08.279 Okay, oh, the red faced guy. Not what you're saying. Yeah, 176 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:10.040 it's one of the best jump scares ever. 177 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:13.519 Great jump scare, right, but but but part of that 178 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.279 jump scare was not just the image, It was the 179 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:18.079 slight movement that you saw. 180 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:20.920 On that on the movement of the of the Red 181 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:21.800 Demon Earth yea. 182 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:26.439 And the randomness yeah, Now in this film, I don't 183 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:29.240 I mean, maybe it was set up to do jump scares, 184 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:32.279 but to me, anything that was that was scary. You 185 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:34.799 kind of already knew what was going to happen, and 186 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:37.600 it was very subtle where in the background the chimp 187 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.240 would start moving, you know, like very subtly. The ending 188 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.679 for like the big scene at the end, I mean, 189 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:47.200 my god, how predictable was that? Yeah, you know, just 190 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:50.559 and I'm just waiting and I'm waiting and I'll do 191 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:52.840 this too to trash this movie more. 192 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:54.240 Uh huh. 193 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:58.840 The Packers Bears game playoff game that happened on Saturday night. 194 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:03.799 I was getting so frustrated with the second half. I 195 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:05.840 just I didn't know who was gonna win at that point. 196 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:07.679 I just wanted it to be over. I'm like, this 197 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.039 is not enjoyable for me. I don't like sweating like this. Yeah, 198 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.840 I don't like sitting through you know, maybe if it 199 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.240 was the Packers coming back rather than the Bears, I 200 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:17.240 would have enjoyed it more. 201 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:19.480 I just hated it. I just I didn't want to 202 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:21.200 watch the Bears final drive and didn't want to watch 203 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:22.919 the Packers final drive. I just wanted it to be 204 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:27.799 over with. From the point when the two boys showed up, 205 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:31.840 I was just like, just can we can we just 206 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:32.200 end this? 207 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:34.559 I mean, I just I'm done. I'm done with this 208 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:38.000 whole premise. I'm done with it. I I just was 209 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:40.120 ready to be for it to all be over. 210 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:41.200 You want to know what's funny? 211 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.080 And I said, Okay, maybe there'll be something that surprises 212 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:46.080 me here and I'll be glad. 213 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:47.519 Sure I stuck around. 214 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:50.639 No, No, they were fodder, and like, but what's funny 215 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:52.519 is because I knew what I was getting into at this. 216 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:54.919 I saw those guys show up, and prior to them 217 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:57.399 showing up, I was sitting there thinking, you know, this 218 00:09:57.480 --> 00:09:59.639 needed two or three more characters to kill because I 219 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:01.440 don't think there's gonna be too many deaths left. And 220 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:03.879 then they showed up. I was like, oh good, oh good, 221 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:05.960 this is the case. And I will say and this 222 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.879 was going through my mind while I was watching the movie. 223 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:10.960 About twenty minutes in, and I know you're gonna scoff 224 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:13.279 at this, and that's fine. About twenty minutes in, I 225 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:15.519 was sitting there thinking, they introduce all these all these 226 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:18.480 women and their one one boyfriend there that shows up. 227 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:20.600 They give you all their backstories that I couldn't have 228 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:23.399 given a shitless about. Yeah, and I'm sitting there once 229 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:25.799 things start to hit the fan, and I think to myself, 230 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:29.279 I don't care if a single one of these characters 231 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:33.120 lives through this movie. But then, but then, about an 232 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.759 hour into the movie, at one point, one of the girls, 233 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:37.600 who was clearly set up to be the villain of 234 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.759 the movie, I was doing some heroic things like during 235 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:42.679 like trying to help some of the characters out, and 236 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:44.759 all of a sudden, I felt myself rooting for the characters. 237 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:47.120 And to me, the mark of a good movie is 238 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.360 I didn't give a crap about these people, and over 239 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:51.000 the course of an hour, I'm like, no, there are 240 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:52.919 specific people that I want to see come out of 241 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:54.039 this instance alive. 242 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:56.320 Because to get you to get to care, to get 243 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:58.039 you to care about at least some of the characters. 244 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:00.879 Compare that to Anaconda, not the same movie. They obviously 245 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:02.960 were going for comedy, but we I complained about it 246 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:05.799 last week. You knew which characters had plot armor and 247 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.600 which ones were the were the the fodder, here is 248 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:12.080 the gonna make it. I'm sitting there googling, like if 249 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:14.840 you get bit by something with rabies, do you well. 250 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:18.320 Not only that, not only that, but like I was 251 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:22.000 worried about the aftermath of it, like like, okay, well 252 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:25.919 you know these people who got attacked, who got bit, 253 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.840 who maybe had blood mixed with the chimps rabid blood, 254 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:33.120 Like what's the long term Like is this something that 255 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:33.960 you can pull out of? 256 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:38.320 I don't know. You said heroic for one of the 257 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:41.759 characters heroic actions. Can you look at it also from 258 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:44.720 a selfish lens for what she did? 259 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:50.879 Because well, yeah, because where that sort of like where 260 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:54.120 things change, where the unexpected twist came in what she 261 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:54.799 was doing. 262 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:57.519 We don't know what would have happened after that, No, 263 00:11:57.600 --> 00:11:58.080 we don't. 264 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:00.480 You know, yeah exactly because she gonna and you know what, 265 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:04.360 she was kind of an s heel, Yeah, for what 266 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:04.759 it's worth. 267 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:07.039 So I don't know what what her intentions were. We 268 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:08.919 know that she did not get along with one of 269 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:11.960 the main characters, so I don't know what would have 270 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:12.480 happened there. 271 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:15.080 And I will say, with your endything, this is like 272 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:17.879 an anti spoiler. It's what it's what doesn't happen that 273 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:19.639 I think might have added to it a little bit. 274 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:21.840 I wish it would have turned out it weren't rabies, 275 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:23.639 Like I wish that's what the ending were. And you 276 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:26.080 think the monkey's dead, and then whoever got bit or 277 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:28.679 scratched by the monkey has something and it ends on 278 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:30.080 like a cliffhanger. 279 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:31.399 Of like, oh, I don't I don't understand, like some 280 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:33.240 other disease or or. 281 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.879 Like just take it into the supernatural. And it was like, 282 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:38.519 you know, the rage virus from twenty eight days later 283 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:42.480 whatever whatever, like not literally twenty eight days later, but 284 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:43.519 make it something like. 285 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:47.919 No, literally twenty eight make it like yeah, like because 286 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:49.639 who would see that coming? No, that would have been 287 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:51.759 that would have been a totally read That's what I'm saying. 288 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:53.759 And I was a little disappointed that it kind of 289 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:57.320 ends like there's no sequel bait. There's no uh oh 290 00:12:57.399 --> 00:12:59.960 did the monkey die? There's no here's the monkey's bait 291 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.440 that's also born evil and with raised this is very 292 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:05.480 much a one off and. 293 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:06.279 Uh, I don't know. 294 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:09.919 I mean, I love creature fleatures, and also I say 295 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:11.799 it's a mixture between a creature feature and one of 296 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:14.279 my favorite B rate movies of all time is called Frozen. 297 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:16.399 It's about three people get stuck on a ski lift 298 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:18.360 and the ski lift is closed from Oh I got 299 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:21.200 to see this Sunday nights until Friday morning, and it's 300 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:22.919 them trying to figure out how they're gonna get off 301 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:24.559 this ski list. Wait a minute, did I see this? 302 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.519 How old is this movie? Probably fifteen years old? I 303 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:30.000 think I did see the dude from Animal ice Man 304 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:31.960 he was also an Animals. Yeah, is one of the 305 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:32.559 actors in it. 306 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:36.279 I can't he was. He was a Oh god, why 307 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:38.039 can I not think of this guy's name? Yeah, I 308 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:40.480 know you're talking. Yeah, he was in a Fox TV 309 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:43.200 show following the following following Yeah, yeah, Oh did you 310 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:45.320 say that following? No? I didn't, but I like that show. 311 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.080 Yeah it is Kevin Bacon. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that's 312 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.080 that's I know what we're talking about. I can't remember. 313 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:51.960 Yeah, and he's in Frozen. But so like this movie 314 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.159 has like you can't leave this area, and there's in Frozen, 315 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:57.480 it was wolves that were underneath the ski lift. 316 00:13:57.559 --> 00:13:58.360 I definitely see. 317 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:00.720 But in this it's a monkey that outside of the 318 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:02.840 region that they find themselves locked in and like, as 319 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:04.440 soon as you put me in that kind of scenario, 320 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:06.960 because then my mind starts going, Okay, so what would 321 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:08.559 I do in this scenario? And how am I getting 322 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:10.200 out of here? And then like I'm like, oh, I 323 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:11.679 would do this, And then you see them do that 324 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:12.879 and you're like, son of a bitch, I would have 325 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:14.840 died if I did that, And then like you get 326 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:17.639 the next thing, and like that's when. That's what I 327 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:19.519 enjoy about those kind of movies. So that's how I 328 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:20.039 watched it. 329 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.679 The one thing I did think that was good about 330 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:25.080 this or I mean it's not wasn't all bad. But 331 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:28.320 one of the things I liked was the the opening credit, 332 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:32.279 not opening credits, but the opening title card explaining rabies. 333 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:34.559 Yeah, I have a funny story about that, but go on. 334 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:36.960 And how it creates a fear of water, yeah, which 335 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:40.720 I didn't realize. Yeah, because that is a significant part 336 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:44.240 of this movie, is how they are able to sort 337 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:47.440 of bide their time but also be trapped at the 338 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:53.000 same time and prolong their torture, prolong their lives with 339 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:56.200 this infinity pool, which I mean, once I saw the 340 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:58.559 shot of the Infinity Pool, like right on the cliff. 341 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:01.559 I'm like, this is you know, yeah, they're gonna have something. 342 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:03.279 Which what kind of author? You know what I mean? 343 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:04.360 You're not writing Harry Potter. 344 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:06.759 Well did you see the stuff on the wall? Like 345 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:09.600 so he had all these posters throughout his house. By 346 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:14.080 the way, Troy Katzer Katsuer plays a famous author in 347 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:18.000 this in this film, and he has it seems like 348 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:23.720 all of his his books have some sort of well 349 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:26.840 they all have a theme. They all start with silent whatever. Yeah, 350 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:31.440 like silent song, silent death. What you know, silent is death. Yeah, 351 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:33.799 he's definitely, he's definite real life. So you might remember 352 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:35.360 him if you saw the CODA move. Did you see 353 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:38.080 CODA came out? I want to say a one best 354 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:41.120 picture at the Oscars. This is less than five years ago, 355 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:43.440 probably well less than ten years ago for sure, maybe 356 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:44.120 less than five. 357 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:48.600 But CODA stands for child of Deaf Adults. Okay, and 358 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:52.039 in this film, the sort of the star is dealing 359 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:54.840 with their parents both being deaf. And I didn't see it. 360 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:56.720 I heard it was very good and I think that's 361 00:15:56.759 --> 00:15:59.679 what Katsuer won the I know if he if he won, 362 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:00.639 that's what he wanted. 363 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:01.279 For anyway. 364 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:06.519 So he plays this deaf author and I'm assuming the 365 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:09.159 plot of the books he writes has something to do 366 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:13.279 with being deaf, like maybe the protagonist is deaf or whatever. 367 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:16.799 But it's this series of books, which I totally believe 368 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:19.320 if they're successful. You know, I think about who wrote 369 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:23.600 the the you know, A is for this, B is 370 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:26.360 for that, M is for murder. Yeah, that Patricia, but 371 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:30.080 you might have been Patricia Cornwell, I can't remember. She's rich, yeah, 372 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:32.519 I mean, like you can get rich off this. And 373 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:34.000 clearly this dude. 374 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:39.679 Had a wealthy I would assume a wealthy spouse, you know, 375 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:42.039 doing the work that she did with chimps. And she 376 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:46.039 was obviously a doctor, and then she passes away to cancer. 377 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:48.639 I'm sure there is a healthy life insurance that comes 378 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.559 with that. So I didn't. I thought that the whole 379 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:52.639 thing was believable. 380 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:54.799 As far as where they lived, the type of place 381 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:57.559 that they lived, I thought that was totally believable. And 382 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:00.720 clearly the guy I mean, we see him working with 383 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:04.000 his publicist on a zoom meeting and then actually in 384 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:06.599 real life with other people. I don't know if that 385 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:08.920 was an investor he was talking to. He took it 386 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:09.799 very seriously. 387 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:12.680 Oh yeah, you know, you know so he I thought 388 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:14.519 that that part was totally believable. 389 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:16.799 Okay, okay, you're convincing me of that. But if I 390 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:20.000 can backtrack to the opening Rabi's discribe, Oh yeah. 391 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.240 So, so just to wrap up my point, if they 392 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:25.279 would have not put that in, yeah, And I don't 393 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:26.200 think I'm stupid. 394 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:27.720 I'm stupid about some things. 395 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:29.440 But if they wouldn't have put that in, I wouldn't 396 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:31.680 have understood why the chimp could I mean, is it 397 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:34.119 enough to say, oh, the chimp can't swim, so he's 398 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:34.799 not going to go in? 399 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:35.119 Oh? 400 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:37.039 Sure, I mean I think the people would have bought that. 401 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:39.880