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married to Ben's sister. So yeah, So now Jake, I
forget uh, it's it's tragic, man.
Speaker 2: So he was just driving on I fifteen and just
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and he just passed out and they said he was
dead before uh, you know, the impact happened and nothing,
and they didn't find anything in the out time. So
I mean, I guess the peace of mind for the family,
but yeah, so I guess it was just his time.
Speaker 4: So they're doing that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he played with my nephew, Garrett's cousin, Chris.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know who he is.
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Speaker 4: How we doing today, folks?
Speaker 3: Hey doing well?
Speaker 4: How you doing?
Speaker 7: Ron?
Speaker 4: Doing good?
Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys joining me today. I just want to
mention this Ben. We'll be back next week. Everybody. You
celebrating a family event on Jake Choff's brother in law
passed away a year ago, so he's out of the
office today, but he will be back.
Speaker 4: He just wanted to express his apologies.
Speaker 2: He hates when he has to miss this with you guys,
but has delegated to me to hold it down.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, give you our best.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's get right into it. Something around the local.
This is something that i've the Morning Show deals with.
They're part of the WHACK and UVU. But the WHAC
is suing UVU over exit fees.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is interesting. So the WA, the
Western Athletic Conference UVU is.
Speaker 4: Part of it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: About a year ago they announced that they were going
to bounce to the Big West Conference and leave the WHACK.
So you know, this is a common thing when just
with all this conference realignment and schools leaving conferences, they
are part of their bylaws and contracts that require an
exit fee. I mean there was a big deal where
Florida State and Clemson tried to leave the ACC and
they were gonna have to pay like one hundred and
forty million something crazy like that. But so we just
got word that the WHAC Conference is suing UVU, claiming
that they claim that UVU has refused to pay the
million dollar exit fee to the WHACK after announcing his
plan to move to the Big West Conference. So there
have been no doubt. Before a lawsuit happens, there are
things going on behind the scenes where the parties try
to negotiate and come to a compromise, and they both
put their positions out there and say what's happening, and
the WHACK I'm sure came to UVU and said, hey,
you got to pay this exit fee. You're leaving, good
luck to you, but you got to pay a million dollars.
And it was reported that a letter from the president
of UVU said we are not going to pay this fee.
And you know, you look at that and think, well,
that can't just be, you know, just an exclusive thing.
I'm sure that it's based on a legal position that
they got that for some reason they don't need to
pay that. But the Western Athletic Conference responded and said, no,
this is part of our contract. It's part of our
by laws. If someone leaves, you got to do this.
You're bound by this, and you know, lawsuits can drag
it out and things like that.
Speaker 4: And the reason you know.
Speaker 3: We're talking about it is because it comes at a
time that's really interesting because the WHAC Conference has stated
as part of their losses, they said UVU is not
permitted to participate in conference championship events, NCAA championship events,
or appear on conference sponsored television, radio or other media.
So basically they're saying, Okay, you haven't paid your exit fee,
and part of our contract is if you don't pay this.
You don't get to participate in this stuff. And that's
important because UVU right now is they're type for first
in the West Athidic Conference. You know, they have a
good chance to do well in their tournament and potentially
get a automatic bid or even in that large bid.
But the WA's taking a hardline position on this and
saying you don't even get a play in this. So
it's going to be interesting to see how this works out.
Number one, I think the UVU has dug its heels
in and maybe they didn't think that they were going
to assert this part of the contract and the WAX
is digging their heels in, and so we'll see what happens.
I think you've used doug in on their position, but
they might bend to this. There might be negotiations, we
might hear that it's taken care of. But that's why
it's having such a big impact.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot going on with this. Now.
Speaker 2: This is obviously going out of Texas, so it'll be
Texas case. I'm curious, pressing, is there a way to
get some type of motion or something for them to
still be able to participate. I don't know how you
can put things on hold and still participate in the
NCAA tournament.
Speaker 3: How that will work, Well, the WAX certainly doesn't want that,
and the wills of justice moves slowly, so I'm sure
that there will be there will be motions. So what
happens is the loss is filed, and you're right, it
was filed in the Federal District Court in Texas because
I think that's where the headquarters of the Western Athletic
Conference are. And what will happen is UVU with their lawyers,
will come in and answer what's called the complet the lawsuit,
and they will respond to all the allegations in it,
and they'll take their position and they'll take our hardline position,
and then we start a process. It's called discovery, you know.
And so I bet there will be some probably some
early motions, maybe even a motion to this myth, basically
saying to the judge, hey, this is no good. It
needs to be dismissed. It's it's in, it's you know,
it's a doesn't really have any merit. But then what
will follow probably will be a motion for a preliminary
injunction where they ask the court to say, hey, this
is a dispute. We're at odds on it. We have
difference of opinion on it. But while we resolve this,
the Conference should be enjoined from enforcing this part of
the contract because down the road we might prove the
contracts no good and we don't need to pay this.
But right now, the Conference should be enjoined from you know,
restricting us from paying an these things. That's what I
think you'll see and how the judge will ruin. I
don't know, they'll look at it, and you know, preliminary
injunctions have to show that it you know, if not
granted their there's like irreversible stuff that could happen, which
would be you'd miss this tournament. So I wait for
that to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna be waiting as well.
Speaker 2: I was shocked when I saw Pete Damil, you know,
the College Football Insider put this out the school literally,
you know, just a few minutes away from BYU, A
local one of that never thought that we would see this,
but everything happens in the world.
Speaker 4: Of sports core. Let's move on.
Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather Junior Money Mayweather as they call him, Sue's
showtime former, you know, executive for a three hundred and
forty million allegend years of fraud.
Speaker 4: That's a lot of money.
Speaker 5: He hits a lot of money. Yeah, he's not called
money Mayweather for nothing. I mean I'd forgotten this wrong,
but I mean here in two hundred and fifty million
dollars just that one fight with Manny Pacyao, it's huge money.
And so, you know, as these boxers and all athletes do,
they've got agents and promoters and and Mayweather's had this
agent for a long long time. And really the relationships,
the way it's come out in this lawsuit was based
on an oral contract, kind of a handshake that hey,
he's going to take ten percent of his earnings. And
so this relationship has been going on for years, and
he's got this contract with Showtime Network and they're shelling
out these payments and it's going to the agent who's
then taking his cut, you know, allegedly, and then giving
the rest of it to Floyd Mayweather. And well, what's
what's come out now is that why we've got this
lawsuit again where he's seeking three hundred and forty million dollars.
It's a lawsuit against the network, against Showtime Network because
he's saying there's been a misappropriation of funds, right, and
that this money that went to his agent, really he
never got his fair share of what he was supposed
to get. Because really what's happening is this agent is
he's siphoning off some of the money and he's he's
taking his ten percent, but he's taking more in addition
to that, and he's claiming, you know, for quote reimbursements
you know is taking you know, these are a twenty
million dollars reimbursement on for things. I don't know what
that would be for, right, But he's there's so much
money here that he's taking more than his fair share course,
so misappropriating those funds. And so what's curious to me,
as we've talked about this is that this agent's not
part of the lawsuit. This is a lawsuit again Showtime,
and the allegation is basically that hey, you guys, you
guys should have known that something was up, that this
was that this money and the way it was getting
structured and transferred, you should have known that it wasn't
getting to Floyd Mayweather, right, and that you guys have
a responsibility. And once you realize that something shady is
going on. You can't keep participating in this scheme. You've
got a duty to me under this contract. And so
that's the basis for his lawsuit. I think it's so
is a tough claim, right. The person who's actually stolen
the money is not even a part of the lawsuit.
But he's just saying, hey, you guys should have kept
a closer eye on my own agent and this agent,
you know, the way he does business, and that this
could be a reason why he's not involved in the
lawsuit is there's not much of a paper trail with him.
He does things kind of old fashioned, right with a handshake.
There's not you know, a lot of electronic files or
documentation or emails. He doesn't do any of that, and
so I maybe it's been hard to kind of piece
together from a you know, forensic accounting standpoint. And that's
why they're going back to showtime and saying, hey, you
guys should have known better and shouldn't have been given
him all of the money.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of money, man, that's life change of money.
So you've mentioned a two hundred and fifty thousand that
would change a lot millions for society, millions for people.
Speaker 4: I do have a follow up, just a quick one.
Speaker 2: How likely is it that a case like this settles
out in court versus going to try. Given the high
profile and a large amount.
Speaker 5: Of dollar, I think it's very likely that's something like
this settles out of court, you know, I mean, is
Floyd Mayweather going to get three hundred and forty million dollars?
I mean, I doubt it. I mean, I think there
will be some sort of compromise here, But I mean,
they've got to through this process, and Preston was just
describing this this the discovery process. They're going to have
to come up with some really solid evidence to show
that of what they knew, that they knew that there
was this shady scheme going on, and and that might
be hard. It might be hard to come up with
that kind of a smoking gun. But I mean, if
you have some of that, it would give you some
leverage and some negotiations. But one way or another, I
would expect that something like this will we'll settle out
of court.
Speaker 2: Definitely settle, Yeah, settle. I'm definitely going to see if
this one's settled. Because the best box of all time
is has settled You know, beating everybody. Well, see if
he's able to win it again and beat this case.
We'll see if he's able to win it. Let's get
an update on mil Tucker and he beats a defamation lawsuit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I should have been a boxer on Garrett story.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: But this Mel talker situation has been going on for
a number of years. Just a little background. Mel Tucker
as a coach who signed a ten year, almost one
hundred million dollar deal with Michigan State University to be
the football coach a few years ago. And he's had
a lot of success and is a really good coach. Well,
as part of his coaching, he brought in a consultant,
woman named Brenda Tracy to come talk to his team.
And she is a sex assault advocate and she'd come
talk to the team about sexual content, things that red
flags you could get in trouble for because we know
some of these athletes they made poor decisions or they're
targeted or whatever. So she was a consultant. Well, aside
from that, Mel Tucker, you know, they developed a friendly relationship.
And this is where it is. Did she claims that
Tucker was pursuing her and that there was some inappropriate,
salacious things going on in texting and over the telephone
and things, and she maintained she just wanted to keep
a professional relationship just as friends. Well, it came out that,
you know, she made these allegations, and just like that,
Michigan State fired him. They said they fired him for cause.
We'll get to that in a minute. But then she
sued mel Tucker on her own and she claimed a
number of things. She claimed. Her main thing was she
said that Tucker intentionally tried to ruin her public image
and reputation with false statements when he came out, including
his claims, and she made up these allegations just to
extort him for money. She claimed a breach of contract
for the contract she had to do things tortures, interference,
and she claimed sexual harassment. So this has been going
on for a number of years, and we just got
worried that Big mel Tucker got himself a victory. The
judge has dismissed her claims against him, claiming that the
judge's reasoning was that said that it violated or did
not meet the statumentations means she didn't file on time
and that the facts were there if they went ahead
in the trials, she would not prevail. That's what has
been reported. I haven't read the opinion. But so there
are other lawsuits going on in this Mele's getting out
of these and we'll see if there's appeals. But Mel
has his lawsuit going against Michigan State. They fired him
for cause he said, no, I didn't violate the contract
because you know all along about my relationship with her,
and you know it was up front, he disclosed it.
She has a lawsuit going against Michigan State saying that
they didn't protect her and they knew that things were
going on. So Mel's getting a victory on his personal
side of things, and so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you you take a loss somewhere else and you
get a w you know. And mL Sark was able
to beat this one. He's been in the headlines before,
no doubt, no doubt about it. Let's continue on FATS
push discrimination claims against Nike. What's going on with this one?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, this is a this is a claim by
the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the e e o C
against Nike. Honestly, it took to me it comes a
little out of left field. But this is a push
by the eeo C to say that that Nike's DEI
related hiring practices are discriminatory, and essentially they're arguing that
this is reverse racism against white employees who are applying
for jobs at Nike. This doesn't come from any complaint
from somebody who was trying to get a job at Nike.
This is just the e on their own and they're
getting their marching orders, I guess to make this complaint.
And so what's happened and why it's hitting the news
now is the EEOC, and in these employment cases, they
kind of you know, have their own little process. But
they issued a subpoena to Nike and they were trying
to get information and back and forth about this complaint
that they've filed against them, and apparently from the eeoc's perspective,
they weren't getting compliance, and so they went ahead and
filed the motion in federal court to help to enforce
this right and so now it becomes public. Nike their
response has been, well, wait a minute, you know, we're
being blindsided by this. We've been complying in good faith.
We've been providing you as information where what's this about
so again, I mean, it's it's kind of interesting. This
is not the type of claim we typically in the past,
you know, for decades and decades have seen from the EEOC.
This is a new kind of a claim of a
verse racism claim. So I don't know, we'll see, we'll
see where this thing goes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is interesting.
Speaker 2: My follow up question is how does the concept I
guess of reverse discrimination work legally? And sorry if that
means I'm you know, not educated enough, I'm.
Speaker 5: Curious, Well, exactly, I think I think one of the
what the EEOC is is pointing to in twenty twenty one,
for example, Nike, they you know, this is internal stuff,
but they presented a five year plan for having a
more diverse workforce and they had a target of a
thirty five percent representation of racial minorities in the company.
And so the e EEOC is taking exception with this,
and they're saying, hey, you shouldn't have these kind of quotas, right,
you know, regarding racial minorities working for your company. Again,
that's something typically in all kinds of areas in you know,
in our multicultural, pluralistic society, you know, whether it's in education,
or in corporate business that has you know, been the
idea is to promote diversity, and this is taking a
swing at it from the other way to push back
against that. We've seen it in higher education right with
affirmative action of this sort of things. And so that's
that's kind of what this is about.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see if it's a swing and a swing
and a miss or yeah, or what.
Speaker 4: Will happen in the future with this. Let's finish up
with this.
Speaker 2: Going back to some local news, Utah bill would allow
concealed firearm permits holders to bring guns to jazz mammoth games.
Speaker 4: I'm intrigued by this one. Please give me the update
on this.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we're this is the legislative part of Sports Court.
It was reported yesterday that Representative Candice Perucci of Harriman,
she is putting forth a bill that said it would
require any private entity, business, or venue that has received
more than one million dollars in public funding to allow
concealed fire arms permit holders to bring their guns to events.
She comes out and says, hey, we're a Second Amendment state.
We really have a robust concealed carry permit. We think
we ought to get into this discussion where things are
happening to prohibit people's Second Amendment rights. So where the
Delta Center and Jazz and the Mammoth fall into this
is part of the bill is that the legislature they
fall under this area that where they they have received
public subsidies, they've received subsidies from the legislature. It shows
that nearly a billion dollars in subsidies to Salt Lake
City's Sports and Entertainment District, which is where the Delta
Center is, So they fall in there. So why is
this tricky? Well because up to now, you know, you
couldn't do that. You've got metal detectors, all kinds of
things like that, and the NBA and then AHL part
of their policy is people can bring weapons, any kind
of weapon, including a firearm to the games. So you're
getting into this mess here and what happens in this
you know. And so this bill has just been put forth.
I think it's an interesting bill. I think I don't
think a lot of people are going to want to
jump on board with this. I don't think a lot
of people are going to want to go to public
venues knowing that people might be carrying firearms. You know,
they like the security of going to this or there's
big events simply because we've seen terrible things over the
years more than we want to talk about at public
events where they're shootings and that type of thing. So,
you know, any level of security I think people I
am anyway in favor of and not taking a Second
Amendment stance on this, but I just think in certain
situations you absolutely should have security. So my bet is
this will not pass. But it's being put out there.
She claims she's responding to her what her constituents want.
Speaker 4: This is definitely interesting. I never thought this.
Speaker 2: I'm with you growing up going to bulls games and
even now going to jazz games. I have a little
one definitely feel protected with the security and gonna go
that nothing against the Amendments at all, but yeah, we'll
see what happens with this one. I know there are
a lot of people that probably have a lot of
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Back tugglers back in that starting, lineup and then to
round out the starting, five you have to really good.
Freshmen Kingston flemmings has been one of the best freshmen all. Year,
really he's trending. Up you, know he's projecting to be
potentially a top five, pick depending which mock draft you're looking.
At and Then Chris Snak junior has been really coming on.
Lately you, know came in with a lot of accord
with somebody that was highly hally, touted highly, recruited and you,
know he's he's been steady all year and has really
come on, lately coming off a game in which he
had a double. Double he's, scoring he's, rebounding he's really
starting to find his footing in college, basketball and it's
been fun to watch his. Development of another very talented, Freshman.
Speaker 4: SCOTT a report on B yu and what you see
you Mentioned.
Speaker 2: Jr obviously they got one of the best trios in
college basketball With Rob, wright who you're familiar, With agent
de bons everybody just like you, Know, Kingston fleming And
snack junior guys that are gonna go in this twenty
twenty SIX nba draft when that time comes From leave
that conversation for another. Day, obviously who do you think
is gonna be matched up with? Them and what do
you See i'll take from THIS byu basketball.
Speaker 8: Team they're, explosive elite. Offense De bonsa the best player
in the. COUNTRY i think he would be in the
he'd be in the argument, there, right you'd have his
name in the. Hat you could debate. THAT i like
that you mentioned the, trio you, know, Right saunders And,
Devonsa because there's a lot of really good trios in
The big. Twelve i'm not sure there's one better THAN.
Byu you, Know kansas is. Good you Know peterson and
you And me would be a pretty good. Trio Iowa
state has a good trio With lipsey And jefferson And Mom.
Schilovich so there's just a bunch of really good, teams
really good. Trios BUT byu is right. THERE i, mean
they have a, headliner they have one of the best
players in the, Country Richie. Saunders you know he could
sneak into the first. Round, two he could have been
AN nba guy last. Year Rob wright one of the
best point, guards not only in this conference but in
the entire. Country so, yeah that's. THREE i use.
Speaker 4: Legit, yeah he has definitely definitely.
Speaker 2: Legit Trio, ap you got a question For, Jeremy let's
go ahead and turn it over.
Speaker 9: You, YEAH i just wanted to ask specifically on The
Rob RIGHT buyu struggled a lot lately to defend point.
Guards defend specifically With Rob. Wright is that something you
See houston, attacking especially With Kingston flemings being so.
Speaker 8: Good, YEAH i would it. Would houston likes to hunt,
Matchups that's that's no. Secret so they'll they'll try to
go out of defenders that they think they can get. To,
now you, know this is kind of the chess match of, coaching, Right,
like who Does Rob right match? Up Is Rob right
matching up On Kingston flemings if he, is The houston
runs of actions where they switch him up and Get
Kingston flemings going against. Him so it's kind of the
chess match, There DO i use link is pretty EVIDENT
a lot of links there when if they use that
to kind of Combat houston a little, bit But houston
will hunt match ups that that's, uh that's something that
they like to do.
Speaker 2: Offensively what is made kings and fleming just so good
from your, STANDPOINT i was looking at the. NUMBERS i
think he's he averages over twenty or twenty five points
in top ranked.
Speaker 4: Matchups the lights are too bright for this.
Speaker 8: Kid, no he. Almost it's it's like he shines in, them,
Right and there's there's always in any, sport like there's
players who play well against really good, competition and there's
players where the competition kind of gets to, them, right
like it frustrates. Them it's you're playing good, defenses so
you're not gonna have as much success against better. Defenses,
NO i think it's something that he. Craves he just
has that. MENTALITY i think it starts. THERE i think
it's the. Mentality he's got god given athletic attributes as,
well but the mentality is something you don't see from any,
freshmen you. Know it's it's kind of the killer instinct
that you see from seasoned, veterans kind of grizzled veterans
and he's had that day. One he's had that in high.
School he has that alpha, guard alpha man style about.
Him he is the outfit in the, room that's for. Sure.
Now his skill, set he's really good at. Everything he's
got a shot that can beat. You you, know he's
not gonna light it up Like Steph curry from behind
the three point line in terms of, volume but shoots
it at a high percentage because he has good shot.
Selection he's good late in the shot, clock very. Athletic
so he gets to the rim and you know he
can elevate on. You he can finish at the. Rim
his best, ATTRIBUTE i, think at least from my point of,
view is his first. Step he has a quick first
step that you just don't see very. Often that allows
him to blow by. Defenses and you, know depending on
the defense he's, facing maybe you have a big that
comes over to contest at the, rim and then he
has the vision to find the open. Man so he
has it, all he really. Does but that quick first
step is the thing THAT i think stands out more than.
Speaker 5: Anything, YEAH i.
Speaker 2: Watched him a couple of weeks. AGO i get your
thoughts just on this freshman. Class fleming a drop forty.
Two you saw that you have close and personal best
seat in the.
Speaker 4: HOUSE i was.
Speaker 2: Tuned in watch to it BECAUSE i love college, Basketball
big twelve basketball in.
Speaker 4: General The bonser dropped forty.
Speaker 2: Three later that, Day waggler Where i'm from From, Chicago illinois,
line he, dropped you know forty. Six oh my, gosh
this freshman class is.
Speaker 4: Ridiculous, yeah it.
Speaker 8: Was pretty crazy because we actually got suck In lubbock
in that game because of the ice the, weather it
was just too bad to fly, out so we had
to stay On. Lubbock so we went to the hotel
after the, game AND i was watching it in the
room AND i was starting to. WONDER i was, Like,
OKAY i wonder what THE i was about to look it. Up,
ACTUALLY i was wondering for my prep for the next
game or. Whatever who has the freshman record for the
most points in conference? Play Because kingston and you set
THE u OF h, record broke the record for What
Rob williams had in the early, eighties SO i knew
he had done. That and AS i was starting to, think,
OKAY i wonder who has The big twelve freshman? Record
was about to open up the computer BUT i had
THE byu game ON i think they were Playing utah that,
day and then he scores forty. Three, OKAY i LET
byu do that. Prep THEN i don't need to do
that research THAT I but, yeah the freshman in the.
UNBELIEVABLE i, mean this is one of the better freshman
class we've seen in a really long. Time it feels
like a lot of them are in The big twelve.
Too you Mentioned wagler From illinois and certainly not in
The big. Twelve boozer From duke's really. Good you look
across the. Country North carolina has a, Guy loisville has a.
Guy but the freshman playing this league is Just you're
probably the top two picks in the, draft and probably
three of the first. Five so it's it's pretty. Insane,
yeah it's.
Speaker 4: Pretty insane for.
Speaker 2: Sure we're currently on the line right now with THE
espn The fan in our last segment With Jeremie, brenham
the voice of The Houston cougars men's basketball, team also
hosts ON espn ninety seven point five.
Speaker 4: In houston as.
Speaker 2: Well De bonsa the name out, there that's who everybody
you know is trying to. Stop but it's so hard
because he can get to his. Spots who do you
think starts the? Game are they gonna throw multiple bodies
at this this, kid This Houston ross is probably familiar
WITH aj from people playing against him growing.
Speaker 8: Up, yeah not real, sure he's like you, mentioned he.
Has he has the ability to make every defensive assignment a. Mismatch,
right you can try to try to match him up
with his, size but he's fast and he's, athletic and
he'll he'll be able to out athlete you if you
try somebody that can match his quickness, potentially or at
least the best that you can with his quickness and.
Athleticism usually it's a smaller, guard and he's really, good
like you, mentioned getting to his, spots rising and firing
over those. Guards, SO i mean it's a. Matchup it's
a mismatch for. Anybody everybody in the country is going
to have a difficult time DEFENDING. Aj i'm not sure
what The cougars. Do you, know they're not huge with
the guard position six, three, six four sixty four their,
posts you, know can they keep up with with with?
HIM i don't, know SO i would bet it's probably
the last thing you said where it's kind of all,
right let's throw some bodies at. Him let's see who's
having some. Success if there's not success, there let's see
if we can throw the kitchen sink at. Him so
it should be fun to watch early who draws that
assignment and how long they draw that assignment.
Speaker 2: For you're coming to the house That jimmer. Built that's
what they call. It at least that's WHAT i was
told right WHEN i. Started i'm From big ten. COUNTRY
i don't, understand you, know sometimes these rivalry. Terms but you,
Know i've learned about him the MORE i go on
into it riding As i've, watched there doesn't seem Like
houston is phased by these big. Environments case To, flema
we already mentioned it, Earlier Shines, bright what do they
need to do to come out Of provo with the,
win Because BYU's on a losing, streak they would love
to get a top ten win over you.
Speaker 4: Guys, WELL i think the Easy answest.
Speaker 8: Defend you're, RIGHT i mean, this going going to To
probo and playing is always a. THRILL i like the.
ENVIRONMENTS i, mean the environments are kind of WHY i
love college. Basketball you go into these places that are
just loud and, noisy and you get the goose bumps
whenever it gets loud and. Noisy and there's a lot
of great stops in this, league you, KNOW i would
Put Ptita's center up there with any of. Them. All
Field house is obviously. Great aims is. UNBELIEVABLE i think
The Marriott center is the most underrated in the, country
Though i've had the good fortune of calling two games,
there and the crowd there is on another. LEVEL i
think they kind of get lost in the shuffle a
little bit when you're looking at the best crowds in the,
country BECAUSE i would PUT byus fans up with anybody
they pack in that. Place it is. Massive the students
are on you the entire. GAME i think they call
it the, wall where it's just from the floor all
the way to the raptors where you're staring into that
the whole. Game and they're loud and. Noisy so it's
a great. Environment it's an intimidating. Environment they do a
great job of. It the, DEFENSE i MEAN byu the.
Offense they have the star power that they, HAVE i
mean they average over eighty five points a. Game they
can score on anybody even in a loss Against Oklahoma.
State At Oklahoma state they scored ninety. Two so, defense you,
know KEEPING byu At bay, offensively you're not going to
stop them, obviously but trying to keep them below their season.
Averages but it's going to be a good, test AND
i think a good battle of two contrasting. Styles right
they say they say in boxing that styles make, fights
and you have an elite offense, first an elite defense tomorrow.
NIGHT i think those styles make a pretty good.
Speaker 4: Fight.
Speaker 2: Definitely i'm excited for the elite offense and the elite,
defense but have to remind the folks the elite defense
has won the last couple of. Matchups IF i have
to remind the folks as, Well so maybe ball you.
Speaker 4: Can lock a.
Speaker 2: Defensive they struggle with, that and, Look i'm gonna All
i'm gonna say is, This if you're gonna Let kinks
And fleming get, going that'd be a bad. Decision IF
i were a betting, MAN i don't, bet but IF
i had, to from WHAT i know and watch on,
TAPE i wouldn't do. That houston plays B, yu let's
go through the rest of the, schedule and they kind
of you, KNOW i don't want to say a, gaunlet
but it gets it gets. Tough you, know you GO
byu then At. Utah, right the road trip out here In.
Utah how do you feel about the rest of the.
Schedule you got a gauntlet Of Iowa, state then you
host number One, arizona that you got to go To.
Speaker 4: Kansas, well it's.
Speaker 8: TOUGH i, mean it's it's a. Gauntlet everybody's The big
twelve is a difficult. Schedule but you, Know houston's road
GAMES i think are pretty. Apparent you, LOOK i Mean Texas,
tech you played a home at, home so you can't
releasey anything about, that, right you got them at home.
Speaker 5: Road it's any.
Speaker 8: Split but the one matchup AGAINST, byu it's on the,
road the one match up Against kansas In Allen, fieldhouse
the one match up Against Iowa state In Ames Oklahoma.
State they're tough to be on the road and still.
Water that's the final road trip of the regular. Season
that's gonna be. Tough the one break you did have
is the loan matchup Against. Arizona you get them at.
Home so all the all the, heavyweight you, know main,
event top of the marquee type of. Matchups most of
them are on the road For. Houston and then also
all the Big monday games For houston are on the
road At kansas on A, monday At Iowa state on A.
Monday what's tough about that, too is you're coming off
A saturday, Game you're Playing, saturday Traveling, sunday and playing
at a powerhouse That monday night On Big. Monday so you,
KNOW i think that everybody kind of looks they're big twelve, Schedules, like,
man this is a. Gauntlet you, know it's certainly no
different when you look at The houston. Schedule you, KNOW
i wish maybe there was an extra Big monday game
there For. Houston but when you had a sixteen team
league and you're playing eighteen games and you want to
put these heavyweights up against each other as often as you,
CAN i wouldn't want to be a schedule maker in this.
Speaker 2: League, nope don't want to be a schedule. Maker and
indeed there are some scheduled people that will still have
people come for them because there are still some folks
in prove and that's still ping Me ron De boson
And peterson only one. Time, LOOK i don't make the.
Schedule IF i, DID i gave it to you three
times IF i could. Have that's just how it. Goes
last TIME byu gotta win Over houston in provo Was december,
fourth nineteen sixty, five behind thirty nine points from a certain.
Player Jere man needs you to tell, me how do
you see this one planning? Out?
Speaker 4: Tomorrow we'll get you out of here on. This your
guest is as good as.
Speaker 8: MINE i, MEAN i think you have the country AND
i think it's gonna be. Fun you, KNOW i mentioned
the styles. CONTRASTED i also. Fights this is THAT i
know these two coaches have a lot of respect for one.
Another kind of an interesting storyline, there second year young
head coach And Kevin young versus kind of the you,
know the old guard With Kelvin sampson in his thirty seventh,
year eight hundred and nineteen career victories of, BOTH i
think top of the country coaches both in you both areas,
there top of The big. Twelve you know this has seating,
implications tournament. Implications it's just it's a heavyweight. Matchup it's
flip a. COIN i, mean it's tough to win on
the road in this. League it's tough to BE. Byu
it's tough to Be. Houston flip the. Coin we'll see
how it.
Speaker 2: Goes, well flip a coin and see HOW i Goes
Before i'll let you. Go h what's the best way
we could support? You good luckily you, Recalling not that
you need, It but where can people tune in from
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Speaker 8: Tomorrow probably The varsity networks the easiest, spot ALTHOUGH i
can't imagine you have many fans Of utah wanted to do,
that but you can't Have varsity. Network i'm very annoying
on social, media so don't even bother with the. Handle,
Well i'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna track you down on social. Media i'm gonna give
you a. Follow i've been told That i'm annoying to
at least that's what my wife tells.
Speaker 4: Me so we can be two annoying people. Together But
jeremy will let you.
Speaker 2: Go. PLEASE i know you traveled To probos, safely appreciate
your time today and good luck, tomorrow and save travels
for the rest of the.
Speaker 8: Weekend thank you very, Much happy to do it. Anytime
you'll have a good one you.
Speaker 4: Too that Was Jeremy.
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