1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Dot com if you were listening to Utah's Home of 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,200 the l A rams k O v O pro bo 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,839 k U d d H D two one O three 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,240 nine that ninety eight three ESPN the fan. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: Wow, who is that Jake Chef. I don't know if 6 00:00:14,359 --> 00:00:16,160 you guys remember that one that had. 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: Had absolutely Jake Schoff played with my nephew. 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,879 Speaker 4: There you go. Yeah, yeah, so Ben Jake Schoff is 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:27,320 married to Ben's sister. So yeah, So now Jake, I 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,879 forget uh, it's it's tragic, man. 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,799 Speaker 2: So he was just driving on I fifteen and just 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,200 passed out and his car hit like one of the 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,640 cars that takes the other cars and travels across the country. 14 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:42,119 He flipped, uh and it was a four car accident. 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,399 Luckily no one else has heard. And then he just 16 00:00:44,679 --> 00:00:47,560 rolled over his uh because he was in a g 17 00:00:47,719 --> 00:00:52,000 wagon and nothing. He didn't break his neck or anything, 18 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:54,240 and he just passed out and they said he was 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,560 dead before uh, you know, the impact happened and nothing, 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,479 and they didn't find anything in the out time. So 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,359 I mean, I guess the peace of mind for the family, 22 00:01:02,679 --> 00:01:04,319 but yeah, so I guess it was just his time. 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 4: So they're doing that. 24 00:01:05,599 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: He was a big He was a big dude, wasn't he. 25 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,799 Speaker 2: Oh No, Jake was a big dude. I I Jake 26 00:01:09,879 --> 00:01:11,840 made me look like a peanut. Honestly that when I 27 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,560 stood next to him. Jake was a seven three and fifteen, big, 28 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:16,239 big pound dude. 29 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,079 Speaker 4: Yeah. 30 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he played with my nephew, Garrett's cousin, Chris. 31 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,599 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know who he is. 32 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,719 Speaker 3: I didn't know he passed away. 33 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So okay, well I'm out, Jordan start to rejoin, 34 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:30,560 and then we're just gonna get into it. 35 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 4: I'm ready kick Kay, thank Ky, go for it. 36 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:41,079 Speaker 6: He just tied to check in with question and Garrett. 37 00:01:41,079 --> 00:01:44,319 Handy of Handy and Handy for sports court. Handy and 38 00:01:44,359 --> 00:01:47,799 Handy are your accident and personal injury attorneys ready to 39 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,200 assist with any related questions. 40 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:50,239 Speaker 4: You may have. 41 00:01:50,519 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 7: Visily them online at handy Law Utah dot com. 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,159 Speaker 6: Big Firm Experience, Small firm Attention. 43 00:01:57,319 --> 00:01:59,239 Speaker 2: Had Welcome back to Cooper Sports here, I want it 44 00:01:59,359 --> 00:02:03,359 or not three espn Evan Ronald the three man weaver here. 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,519 Speaker 4: Filling in for Big Cripple. 46 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:07,319 Speaker 2: As we keep it going, gonna get into our sports 47 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:07,920 court segment. 48 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: That's right, It's time to play judge. 49 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:11,599 Speaker 2: Jerry, what's the verdict on the biggest headline of sports 50 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,719 in law today? 51 00:02:12,719 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 4: It's time for the Sports Court, brought to you by our. 52 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: Good friends at Handy and Handy, Big firm experience, small 53 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,280 firm attention. Each week, we break down the real life 54 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:25,879 legal drama, intersecting your favorite athletes, teams, and leagues from 55 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:30,319 contract disputes, niloko sideline scandal's courtroom battles. We're diving indeed, 56 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:34,639 with Utah's most trusted injury attorneys, Garrett and Preston Handy. 57 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,759 Speaker 4: How we doing today, folks? 58 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: Hey doing well? 59 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:37,879 Speaker 4: How you doing? 60 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 7: Ron? 61 00:02:38,719 --> 00:02:39,199 Speaker 4: Doing good? 62 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys joining me today. I just want to 63 00:02:42,439 --> 00:02:46,039 mention this Ben. We'll be back next week. Everybody. You 64 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:49,520 celebrating a family event on Jake Choff's brother in law 65 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,599 passed away a year ago, so he's out of the 66 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:52,879 office today, but he will be back. 67 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: He just wanted to express his apologies. 68 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: He hates when he has to miss this with you guys, 69 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,360 but has delegated to me to hold it down. 70 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, give you our best. 71 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's get right into it. Something around the local. 72 00:03:05,199 --> 00:03:07,919 This is something that i've the Morning Show deals with. 73 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,680 They're part of the WHACK and UVU. But the WHAC 74 00:03:10,759 --> 00:03:12,719 is suing UVU over exit fees. 75 00:03:14,719 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is interesting. So the WA, the 76 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,319 Western Athletic Conference UVU is. 77 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:22,759 Speaker 4: Part of it. 78 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: Now. 79 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,879 Speaker 3: About a year ago they announced that they were going 80 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,400 to bounce to the Big West Conference and leave the WHACK. 81 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,599 So you know, this is a common thing when just 82 00:03:32,719 --> 00:03:37,759 with all this conference realignment and schools leaving conferences, they 83 00:03:37,759 --> 00:03:40,800 are part of their bylaws and contracts that require an 84 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,800 exit fee. I mean there was a big deal where 85 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,960 Florida State and Clemson tried to leave the ACC and 86 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,759 they were gonna have to pay like one hundred and 87 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,599 forty million something crazy like that. But so we just 88 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:57,599 got word that the WHAC Conference is suing UVU, claiming 89 00:03:58,039 --> 00:04:04,039 that they claim that UVU has refused to pay the 90 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,759 million dollar exit fee to the WHACK after announcing his 91 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:12,240 plan to move to the Big West Conference. So there 92 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,520 have been no doubt. Before a lawsuit happens, there are 93 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,519 things going on behind the scenes where the parties try 94 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,560 to negotiate and come to a compromise, and they both 95 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,360 put their positions out there and say what's happening, and 96 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,199 the WHACK I'm sure came to UVU and said, hey, 97 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:28,439 you got to pay this exit fee. You're leaving, good 98 00:04:28,519 --> 00:04:30,199 luck to you, but you got to pay a million dollars. 99 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,560 And it was reported that a letter from the president 100 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,160 of UVU said we are not going to pay this fee. 101 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:38,319 And you know, you look at that and think, well, 102 00:04:38,399 --> 00:04:42,120 that can't just be, you know, just an exclusive thing. 103 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,439 I'm sure that it's based on a legal position that 104 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,480 they got that for some reason they don't need to 105 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:51,360 pay that. But the Western Athletic Conference responded and said, no, 106 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:53,319 this is part of our contract. It's part of our 107 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,480 by laws. If someone leaves, you got to do this. 108 00:04:55,959 --> 00:04:59,879 You're bound by this, and you know, lawsuits can drag 109 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,120 it out and things like that. 110 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,959 Speaker 4: And the reason you know. 111 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: We're talking about it is because it comes at a 112 00:05:06,319 --> 00:05:11,040 time that's really interesting because the WHAC Conference has stated 113 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,480 as part of their losses, they said UVU is not 114 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:18,639 permitted to participate in conference championship events, NCAA championship events, 115 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,879 or appear on conference sponsored television, radio or other media. 116 00:05:22,319 --> 00:05:24,839 So basically they're saying, Okay, you haven't paid your exit fee, 117 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:28,519 and part of our contract is if you don't pay this. 118 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:30,759 You don't get to participate in this stuff. And that's 119 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,800 important because UVU right now is they're type for first 120 00:05:33,879 --> 00:05:36,560 in the West Athidic Conference. You know, they have a 121 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,120 good chance to do well in their tournament and potentially 122 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:43,279 get a automatic bid or even in that large bid. 123 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,800 But the WA's taking a hardline position on this and 124 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,600 saying you don't even get a play in this. So 125 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,199 it's going to be interesting to see how this works out. 126 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,920 Number one, I think the UVU has dug its heels 127 00:05:54,959 --> 00:05:57,160 in and maybe they didn't think that they were going 128 00:05:57,199 --> 00:05:59,800 to assert this part of the contract and the WAX 129 00:05:59,879 --> 00:06:04,839 is digging their heels in, and so we'll see what happens. 130 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,439 I think you've used doug in on their position, but 131 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:11,959 they might bend to this. There might be negotiations, we 132 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,160 might hear that it's taken care of. But that's why 133 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,920 it's having such a big impact. 134 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot going on with this. Now. 135 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,519 Speaker 2: This is obviously going out of Texas, so it'll be 136 00:06:21,399 --> 00:06:26,480 Texas case. I'm curious, pressing, is there a way to 137 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:29,920 get some type of motion or something for them to 138 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:33,000 still be able to participate. I don't know how you 139 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,079 can put things on hold and still participate in the 140 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:35,839 NCAA tournament. 141 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,439 Speaker 3: How that will work, Well, the WAX certainly doesn't want that, 142 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:44,120 and the wills of justice moves slowly, so I'm sure 143 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,800 that there will be there will be motions. So what 144 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:48,560 happens is the loss is filed, and you're right, it 145 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,399 was filed in the Federal District Court in Texas because 146 00:06:52,399 --> 00:06:54,560 I think that's where the headquarters of the Western Athletic 147 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,199 Conference are. And what will happen is UVU with their lawyers, 148 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,839 will come in and answer what's called the complet the lawsuit, 149 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,319 and they will respond to all the allegations in it, 150 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,879 and they'll take their position and they'll take our hardline position, 151 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:09,040 and then we start a process. It's called discovery, you know. 152 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,720 And so I bet there will be some probably some 153 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:15,160 early motions, maybe even a motion to this myth, basically 154 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:19,319 saying to the judge, hey, this is no good. It 155 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,319 needs to be dismissed. It's it's in, it's you know, 156 00:07:21,439 --> 00:07:23,759 it's a doesn't really have any merit. But then what 157 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:27,279 will follow probably will be a motion for a preliminary 158 00:07:27,279 --> 00:07:31,040 injunction where they ask the court to say, hey, this 159 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,279 is a dispute. We're at odds on it. We have 160 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:35,680 difference of opinion on it. But while we resolve this, 161 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,480 the Conference should be enjoined from enforcing this part of 162 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,920 the contract because down the road we might prove the 163 00:07:41,959 --> 00:07:44,279 contracts no good and we don't need to pay this. 164 00:07:44,439 --> 00:07:48,759 But right now, the Conference should be enjoined from you know, 165 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:51,680 restricting us from paying an these things. That's what I 166 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,879 think you'll see and how the judge will ruin. I 167 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,800 don't know, they'll look at it, and you know, preliminary 168 00:07:56,839 --> 00:07:59,279 injunctions have to show that it you know, if not 169 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,240 granted their there's like irreversible stuff that could happen, which 170 00:08:02,279 --> 00:08:05,639 would be you'd miss this tournament. So I wait for 171 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,319 that to happen. 172 00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:08,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna be waiting as well. 173 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: I was shocked when I saw Pete Damil, you know, 174 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:15,160 the College Football Insider put this out the school literally, 175 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,759 you know, just a few minutes away from BYU, A 176 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,240 local one of that never thought that we would see this, 177 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:22,079 but everything happens in the world. 178 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: Of sports core. Let's move on. 179 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,079 Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather Junior Money Mayweather as they call him, Sue's 180 00:08:28,079 --> 00:08:32,120 showtime former, you know, executive for a three hundred and 181 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,840 forty million allegend years of fraud. 182 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: That's a lot of money. 183 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 5: He hits a lot of money. Yeah, he's not called 184 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,519 money Mayweather for nothing. I mean I'd forgotten this wrong, 185 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,320 but I mean here in two hundred and fifty million 186 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,759 dollars just that one fight with Manny Pacyao, it's huge money. 187 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:53,600 And so, you know, as these boxers and all athletes do, 188 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,759 they've got agents and promoters and and Mayweather's had this 189 00:08:56,879 --> 00:09:02,759 agent for a long long time. And really the relationships, 190 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,960 the way it's come out in this lawsuit was based 191 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,559 on an oral contract, kind of a handshake that hey, 192 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,200 he's going to take ten percent of his earnings. And 193 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,559 so this relationship has been going on for years, and 194 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,720 he's got this contract with Showtime Network and they're shelling 195 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:23,279 out these payments and it's going to the agent who's 196 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,399 then taking his cut, you know, allegedly, and then giving 197 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,480 the rest of it to Floyd Mayweather. And well, what's 198 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:33,720 what's come out now is that why we've got this 199 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,559 lawsuit again where he's seeking three hundred and forty million dollars. 200 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,200 It's a lawsuit against the network, against Showtime Network because 201 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,919 he's saying there's been a misappropriation of funds, right, and 202 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,519 that this money that went to his agent, really he 203 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,799 never got his fair share of what he was supposed 204 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,919 to get. Because really what's happening is this agent is 205 00:09:55,919 --> 00:09:58,159 he's siphoning off some of the money and he's he's 206 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,320 taking his ten percent, but he's taking more in addition 207 00:10:01,399 --> 00:10:04,600 to that, and he's claiming, you know, for quote reimbursements 208 00:10:05,759 --> 00:10:08,200 you know is taking you know, these are a twenty 209 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,120 million dollars reimbursement on for things. I don't know what 210 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:14,360 that would be for, right, But he's there's so much 211 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:16,879 money here that he's taking more than his fair share course, 212 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,759 so misappropriating those funds. And so what's curious to me, 213 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,159 as we've talked about this is that this agent's not 214 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,320 part of the lawsuit. This is a lawsuit again Showtime, 215 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,639 and the allegation is basically that hey, you guys, you 216 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,399 guys should have known that something was up, that this 217 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,960 was that this money and the way it was getting 218 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,240 structured and transferred, you should have known that it wasn't 219 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,559 getting to Floyd Mayweather, right, and that you guys have 220 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,919 a responsibility. And once you realize that something shady is 221 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,360 going on. You can't keep participating in this scheme. You've 222 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,519 got a duty to me under this contract. And so 223 00:10:56,759 --> 00:10:59,799 that's the basis for his lawsuit. I think it's so 224 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,879 is a tough claim, right. The person who's actually stolen 225 00:11:02,919 --> 00:11:04,639 the money is not even a part of the lawsuit. 226 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,240 But he's just saying, hey, you guys should have kept 227 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,480 a closer eye on my own agent and this agent, 228 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,639 you know, the way he does business, and that this 229 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,200 could be a reason why he's not involved in the 230 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,320 lawsuit is there's not much of a paper trail with him. 231 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,159 He does things kind of old fashioned, right with a handshake. 232 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,240 There's not you know, a lot of electronic files or 233 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,759 documentation or emails. He doesn't do any of that, and 234 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,919 so I maybe it's been hard to kind of piece 235 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,080 together from a you know, forensic accounting standpoint. And that's 236 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,080 why they're going back to showtime and saying, hey, you 237 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,039 guys should have known better and shouldn't have been given 238 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:40,240 him all of the money. 239 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: There's a lot of money, man, that's life change of money. 240 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,000 So you've mentioned a two hundred and fifty thousand that 241 00:11:47,039 --> 00:11:50,320 would change a lot millions for society, millions for people. 242 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 4: I do have a follow up, just a quick one. 243 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,399 Speaker 2: How likely is it that a case like this settles 244 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:57,120 out in court versus going to try. Given the high 245 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,559 profile and a large amount. 246 00:11:58,279 --> 00:12:03,279 Speaker 5: Of dollar, I think it's very likely that's something like 247 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,720 this settles out of court, you know, I mean, is 248 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:09,799 Floyd Mayweather going to get three hundred and forty million dollars? 249 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:12,440 I mean, I doubt it. I mean, I think there 250 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,399 will be some sort of compromise here, But I mean, 251 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,080 they've got to through this process, and Preston was just 252 00:12:17,159 --> 00:12:20,399 describing this this the discovery process. They're going to have 253 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:22,679 to come up with some really solid evidence to show 254 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,840 that of what they knew, that they knew that there 255 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,600 was this shady scheme going on, and and that might 256 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,279 be hard. It might be hard to come up with 257 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,039 that kind of a smoking gun. But I mean, if 258 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,279 you have some of that, it would give you some 259 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,279 leverage and some negotiations. But one way or another, I 260 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,799 would expect that something like this will we'll settle out 261 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:40,159 of court. 262 00:12:40,879 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: Definitely settle, Yeah, settle. I'm definitely going to see if 263 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,919 this one's settled. Because the best box of all time 264 00:12:47,039 --> 00:12:50,200 is has settled You know, beating everybody. Well, see if 265 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,000 he's able to win it again and beat this case. 266 00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:55,000 We'll see if he's able to win it. Let's get 267 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,759 an update on mil Tucker and he beats a defamation lawsuit. 268 00:13:00,039 --> 00:13:02,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I should have been a boxer on Garrett story. 269 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 7: You know. 270 00:13:04,159 --> 00:13:07,919 Speaker 3: But this Mel talker situation has been going on for 271 00:13:08,519 --> 00:13:11,720 a number of years. Just a little background. Mel Tucker 272 00:13:12,279 --> 00:13:16,399 as a coach who signed a ten year, almost one 273 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,240 hundred million dollar deal with Michigan State University to be 274 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,039 the football coach a few years ago. And he's had 275 00:13:22,039 --> 00:13:24,200 a lot of success and is a really good coach. Well, 276 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,320 as part of his coaching, he brought in a consultant, 277 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:32,960 woman named Brenda Tracy to come talk to his team. 278 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,639 And she is a sex assault advocate and she'd come 279 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,679 talk to the team about sexual content, things that red 280 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,639 flags you could get in trouble for because we know 281 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,519 some of these athletes they made poor decisions or they're 282 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:53,200 targeted or whatever. So she was a consultant. Well, aside 283 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:58,399 from that, Mel Tucker, you know, they developed a friendly relationship. 284 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:01,840 And this is where it is. Did she claims that 285 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,720 Tucker was pursuing her and that there was some inappropriate, 286 00:14:06,759 --> 00:14:11,440 salacious things going on in texting and over the telephone 287 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,000 and things, and she maintained she just wanted to keep 288 00:14:14,039 --> 00:14:18,240 a professional relationship just as friends. Well, it came out that, 289 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,720 you know, she made these allegations, and just like that, 290 00:14:21,879 --> 00:14:25,600 Michigan State fired him. They said they fired him for cause. 291 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:28,320 We'll get to that in a minute. But then she 292 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:32,799 sued mel Tucker on her own and she claimed a 293 00:14:32,879 --> 00:14:37,120 number of things. She claimed. Her main thing was she 294 00:14:37,159 --> 00:14:40,039 said that Tucker intentionally tried to ruin her public image 295 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,799 and reputation with false statements when he came out, including 296 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,320 his claims, and she made up these allegations just to 297 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,480 extort him for money. She claimed a breach of contract 298 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:52,919 for the contract she had to do things tortures, interference, 299 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,080 and she claimed sexual harassment. So this has been going 300 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,399 on for a number of years, and we just got 301 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,120 worried that Big mel Tucker got himself a victory. The 302 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:07,399 judge has dismissed her claims against him, claiming that the 303 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:14,519 judge's reasoning was that said that it violated or did 304 00:15:14,559 --> 00:15:17,200 not meet the statumentations means she didn't file on time 305 00:15:17,639 --> 00:15:20,519 and that the facts were there if they went ahead 306 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:22,960 in the trials, she would not prevail. That's what has 307 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,480 been reported. I haven't read the opinion. But so there 308 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,320 are other lawsuits going on in this Mele's getting out 309 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,320 of these and we'll see if there's appeals. But Mel 310 00:15:32,399 --> 00:15:35,960 has his lawsuit going against Michigan State. They fired him 311 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,000 for cause he said, no, I didn't violate the contract 312 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:41,519 because you know all along about my relationship with her, 313 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,000 and you know it was up front, he disclosed it. 314 00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:48,240 She has a lawsuit going against Michigan State saying that 315 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:50,519 they didn't protect her and they knew that things were 316 00:15:50,559 --> 00:15:54,960 going on. So Mel's getting a victory on his personal 317 00:15:55,039 --> 00:15:59,639 side of things, and so we'll see what happens. 318 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes you you take a loss somewhere else and you 319 00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:06,960 get a w you know. And mL Sark was able 320 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,200 to beat this one. He's been in the headlines before, 321 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,000 no doubt, no doubt about it. Let's continue on FATS 322 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:18,919 push discrimination claims against Nike. What's going on with this one? 323 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, this is a this is a claim by 324 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,519 the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the e e o C 325 00:16:25,919 --> 00:16:31,240 against Nike. Honestly, it took to me it comes a 326 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:34,519 little out of left field. But this is a push 327 00:16:34,559 --> 00:16:39,320 by the eeo C to say that that Nike's DEI 328 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:47,960 related hiring practices are discriminatory, and essentially they're arguing that 329 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,639 this is reverse racism against white employees who are applying 330 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:56,559 for jobs at Nike. This doesn't come from any complaint 331 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,080 from somebody who was trying to get a job at Nike. 332 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,879 This is just the e on their own and they're 333 00:17:01,919 --> 00:17:05,519 getting their marching orders, I guess to make this complaint. 334 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:08,599 And so what's happened and why it's hitting the news 335 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:12,319 now is the EEOC, and in these employment cases, they 336 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,599 kind of you know, have their own little process. But 337 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,799 they issued a subpoena to Nike and they were trying 338 00:17:17,799 --> 00:17:21,839 to get information and back and forth about this complaint 339 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:27,480 that they've filed against them, and apparently from the eeoc's perspective, 340 00:17:27,519 --> 00:17:29,880 they weren't getting compliance, and so they went ahead and 341 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,720 filed the motion in federal court to help to enforce 342 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:38,079 this right and so now it becomes public. Nike their 343 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,960 response has been, well, wait a minute, you know, we're 344 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,119 being blindsided by this. We've been complying in good faith. 345 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,200 We've been providing you as information where what's this about 346 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,680 so again, I mean, it's it's kind of interesting. This 347 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,200 is not the type of claim we typically in the past, 348 00:17:54,599 --> 00:17:57,319 you know, for decades and decades have seen from the EEOC. 349 00:17:58,279 --> 00:17:59,839 This is a new kind of a claim of a 350 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,160 verse racism claim. So I don't know, we'll see, we'll 351 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,119 see where this thing goes. 352 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:05,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is interesting. 353 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: My follow up question is how does the concept I 354 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,599 guess of reverse discrimination work legally? And sorry if that 355 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,200 means I'm you know, not educated enough, I'm. 356 00:18:14,079 --> 00:18:18,559 Speaker 5: Curious, Well, exactly, I think I think one of the 357 00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:23,559 what the EEOC is is pointing to in twenty twenty one, 358 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,599 for example, Nike, they you know, this is internal stuff, 359 00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:29,720 but they presented a five year plan for having a 360 00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:33,319 more diverse workforce and they had a target of a 361 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,880 thirty five percent representation of racial minorities in the company. 362 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,400 And so the e EEOC is taking exception with this, 363 00:18:41,519 --> 00:18:44,640 and they're saying, hey, you shouldn't have these kind of quotas, right, 364 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:49,160 you know, regarding racial minorities working for your company. Again, 365 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,680 that's something typically in all kinds of areas in you know, 366 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:59,160 in our multicultural, pluralistic society, you know, whether it's in education, 367 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:02,039 or in corporate business that has you know, been the 368 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,759 idea is to promote diversity, and this is taking a 369 00:19:05,799 --> 00:19:08,960 swing at it from the other way to push back 370 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,200 against that. We've seen it in higher education right with 371 00:19:12,279 --> 00:19:14,319 affirmative action of this sort of things. And so that's 372 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:15,559 that's kind of what this is about. 373 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,319 Speaker 2: Well, we'll see if it's a swing and a swing 374 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:21,400 and a miss or yeah, or what. 375 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: Will happen in the future with this. Let's finish up 376 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:24,200 with this. 377 00:19:24,319 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: Going back to some local news, Utah bill would allow 378 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:33,279 concealed firearm permits holders to bring guns to jazz mammoth games. 379 00:19:33,279 --> 00:19:35,759 Speaker 4: I'm intrigued by this one. Please give me the update 380 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:36,079 on this. 381 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we're this is the legislative part of Sports Court. 382 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:48,599 It was reported yesterday that Representative Candice Perucci of Harriman, 383 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,440 she is putting forth a bill that said it would 384 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,759 require any private entity, business, or venue that has received 385 00:19:55,759 --> 00:19:58,400 more than one million dollars in public funding to allow 386 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,200 concealed fire arms permit holders to bring their guns to events. 387 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:07,039 She comes out and says, hey, we're a Second Amendment state. 388 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,720 We really have a robust concealed carry permit. We think 389 00:20:11,759 --> 00:20:14,839 we ought to get into this discussion where things are 390 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:20,119 happening to prohibit people's Second Amendment rights. So where the 391 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,640 Delta Center and Jazz and the Mammoth fall into this 392 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:29,160 is part of the bill is that the legislature they 393 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,359 fall under this area that where they they have received 394 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:39,559 public subsidies, they've received subsidies from the legislature. It shows 395 00:20:39,559 --> 00:20:41,960 that nearly a billion dollars in subsidies to Salt Lake 396 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,119 City's Sports and Entertainment District, which is where the Delta 397 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,200 Center is, So they fall in there. So why is 398 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,039 this tricky? Well because up to now, you know, you 399 00:20:52,079 --> 00:20:54,240 couldn't do that. You've got metal detectors, all kinds of 400 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,160 things like that, and the NBA and then AHL part 401 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:02,279 of their policy is people can bring weapons, any kind 402 00:21:02,319 --> 00:21:06,200 of weapon, including a firearm to the games. So you're 403 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,119 getting into this mess here and what happens in this 404 00:21:10,319 --> 00:21:13,359 you know. And so this bill has just been put forth. 405 00:21:14,039 --> 00:21:16,319 I think it's an interesting bill. I think I don't 406 00:21:16,319 --> 00:21:17,720 think a lot of people are going to want to 407 00:21:17,799 --> 00:21:20,359 jump on board with this. I don't think a lot 408 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,519 of people are going to want to go to public 409 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:27,559 venues knowing that people might be carrying firearms. You know, 410 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,720 they like the security of going to this or there's 411 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,319 big events simply because we've seen terrible things over the 412 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,279 years more than we want to talk about at public 413 00:21:36,319 --> 00:21:38,799 events where they're shootings and that type of thing. So, 414 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,680 you know, any level of security I think people I 415 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,240 am anyway in favor of and not taking a Second 416 00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:49,400 Amendment stance on this, but I just think in certain 417 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:54,160 situations you absolutely should have security. So my bet is 418 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,119 this will not pass. But it's being put out there. 419 00:21:57,799 --> 00:22:02,000 She claims she's responding to her what her constituents want. 420 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: This is definitely interesting. I never thought this. 421 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,279 Speaker 2: I'm with you growing up going to bulls games and 422 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,480 even now going to jazz games. I have a little 423 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,839 one definitely feel protected with the security and gonna go 424 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,480 that nothing against the Amendments at all, but yeah, we'll 425 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:20,160 see what happens with this one. I know there are 426 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,000 a lot of people that probably have a lot of 427 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:25,279 opinions about this, and we'll let them have that. Guys, 428 00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:28,680 before I let you go, always appreciate you guys coming 429 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,839 on sports court before I go, just if how can 430 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,680 people get a hold of you guys and reach out 431 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,160 to you guys? 432 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,559 Speaker 4: If with you know, the serious questions that they have. 433 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, Ron, the best way to reach us really is 434 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,279 just give us a call. We'd be happy to talk 435 00:22:44,319 --> 00:22:47,000 to you about your legal questions. Again, we get on 436 00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:50,240 here and we talk about sports a lot related issues, 437 00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:52,440 but really we help people who've been injured in accidents. 438 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,119 We help them through that process. 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Brand excuse, me he's 459 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,240 going to join us. Next he's joined us. Before we're 460 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,799 gonna get to know This houston basketball team and can 461 00:23:57,839 --> 00:24:01,160 be why you get a kuah won't win against the 462 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,720 top ten. Team this team is. Physical he's gonna tell 463 00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:05,519 us all About it's gonna be a tough. One can 464 00:24:05,559 --> 00:24:07,799 be what you get on track tomorrow at The Marryout 465 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,720 center against The Houston cougars. 466 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 6: With The Morning news dumped eight o'clock On bryce And 467 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:15,039 Ba neuci and one oh three nine at ninety eight THREE. 468 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,880 Espn the band brought to you By Valley plumbing And Drain. 469 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,799 Clean just look for the truck with the. 470 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 7: Dug Ben krittle's life accomplishments include a two Time Comperence, 471 00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:34,440 championship creator of The ode to The Walk On business, 472 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:38,200 mogul and Every Cougar fan's favorite Wee ka sports radio 473 00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:41,680 Host this Is Cougar sports With Ben krettle right here 474 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,440 on ONE o three nine at ninety eight THREE espn The. 475 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: Fan, yeah, buddy WHEN i hear college basketball, music it 476 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,880 gets me turned. Up you know, why Because i'm a basketball. 477 00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:59,599 JUNKIE i love. BASKETBALL i love basketball. SEASON i Know 478 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,319 i've Been i've been a lot of patriot of accountability 479 00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:04,519 with this ba basketball team the last couple of, days 480 00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:07,559 and rightfully. So, LOOK i give credit what credits, due 481 00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:10,279 BUT i also when things don't go, well you, know 482 00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:12,079 you have to have. It that's the only way we 483 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,799 talk about it as we do here in the world of, 484 00:25:14,319 --> 00:25:16,480 journalism and that's what we're gonna do in this last, 485 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,319 segment break it all down with the guy that knows 486 00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:21,400 This houston basketball team very. WELL i was told in 487 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,759 the first hour by the two coals who were here with. 488 00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:25,440 Me they're not here with me for the last. SEGMENT 489 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,799 i got. Pressed they said that A byu basketball gets a, 490 00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:31,960 win that not everything can be, fixed but it's their, 491 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,599 best one of their best wins in program. History they 492 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,000 can turn it, around AND i just don't. Know Kelvin, 493 00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:40,799 sampson there's Two, LOOK i always, joke you can't outrun. 494 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,400 Death you can't outrun taxes and, look you haven't been 495 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,640 able to Outrun Kelvin sampson and The Houston. COUGARS i 496 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,000 can tell you that you haven't beaten them since he 497 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,720 entered the, conference, rightfully so did you see what they 498 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,200 did last? 499 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 4: Year duke didn't score for ten? Minutes goodness, great It's cooper? 500 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,079 Flag where was he? 501 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: AT i got all the respect in the world for 502 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,960 what that program is able to, do no doubt about. 503 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,119 It this segment gonna be brought to you by one 504 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,279 of our favorite. Sponsors gonna be brought to you by Rubies. 505 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,160 In Rubies in dot. Com why pay for a day 506 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,519 at a ski resort when your entire family can join 507 00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:15,400 the entire weekend At bryce knyon for. 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TRAVELING i 518 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,599 think they're gonna be taking care of some, business you. 519 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 4: Know later. 520 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,519 Speaker 2: On we Got Jeremy, brandham the voice of The Houston 521 00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:54,680 cougars basketball with me on the line right. 522 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,519 Speaker 4: Now, jeremy how we. 523 00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:58,759 Speaker 8: Doing i'm doing? Good how you? Doing thanks for having me? 524 00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: On, no thanks you, joined AND i appreciate. It, look 525 00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:03,799 you heard my. INTRO i was being tongue in, cheek 526 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:07,680 But i'm also being real. Deaf taxes And Kelvin. Sampson 527 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:11,640 This Houston cougar's basketball team is a, phenomenal BUT i 528 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,440 feel like this season they might not be getting as 529 00:27:14,519 --> 00:27:15,960 much attention as they did last. 530 00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 4: Year how do you do that from your? 531 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 8: Perspective, YEAH i think last season they kind of flew 532 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,039 under the radar in the regular season two a. Bit 533 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:27,960 they went one and two In vegas last year and 534 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,519 people kind of forgot about. Them and then they started 535 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:32,599 to make some noise in The Big, twelve eventually won 536 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,160 The Big twelve and eventually got a one, seed and 537 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,599 that's when you started, people you, know kind of picking 538 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,880 up momentum on, THEM i guess in terms of what 539 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,839 the talking heads had to. Say and THEN i think 540 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,720 it's been similar this. Year didn't lose the two In, 541 00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:48,400 vegas took two to, three but you lost one To, 542 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,480 tennessee you lost one early In Big twelve play At. 543 00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:54,440 Lubbock it feels kind of like the same story again 544 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,960 where it's kind of flying under the. Radar BUT i 545 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,240 don't Think houston mind's that too. 546 00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:03,279 Speaker 2: Much, yeah, Yeah Kelvin samson doesn't mind, anything but he 547 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,799 loves his his. Defense take me through this roster this 548 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,079 year different than last, year's but it just seems the, 549 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,880 same the same discipline. Roster they're gonna pick you up 550 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,839 ninety four feet the very well. Conditioned they get it 551 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,519 done on the defensive. End AND i, Look i've never 552 00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:23,119 seen the basketball team since my time starting covering this 553 00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:25,920 is able to score sixty to sixty five points but 554 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,880 still beat you by. 555 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:32,599 Speaker 8: Twenty, yeah they get after you defensively a little. Bit 556 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,039 they believe in they're at court man de man defense 557 00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:38,079 and they're they're very good at. It they've been very 558 00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:40,440 good at it for a long. Time, kelvin you, know 559 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,200 he preaches, defense demands, it AND i think it's evident 560 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,240 when you look at all the defensive metrics overall from the. 561 00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:50,720 ROSTER i like THE i like the. Mix you, know 562 00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:52,720 you have some of the veteran players that you had 563 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:55,519 last year on the deep. Run Yu zan's, Back sharp's, 564 00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:58,559 Back tugglers back in that starting, lineup and then to 565 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,079 round out the starting, five you have to really good. 566 00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:05,039 Freshmen Kingston flemmings has been one of the best freshmen all. Year, 567 00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:08,319 really he's trending. Up you, know he's projecting to be 568 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,359 potentially a top five, pick depending which mock draft you're looking. 569 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,480 At and Then Chris Snak junior has been really coming on. 570 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:17,480 Lately you, know came in with a lot of accord 571 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,079 with somebody that was highly hally, touted highly, recruited and you, 572 00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:24,279 know he's he's been steady all year and has really 573 00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:27,400 come on, lately coming off a game in which he 574 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,480 had a double. Double he's, scoring he's, rebounding he's really 575 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,160 starting to find his footing in college, basketball and it's 576 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,119 been fun to watch his. Development of another very talented, Freshman. 577 00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 4: SCOTT a report on B yu and what you see 578 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:41,559 you Mentioned. 579 00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: Jr obviously they got one of the best trios in 580 00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:49,000 college basketball With Rob, wright who you're familiar, With agent 581 00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:51,880 de bons everybody just like you, Know, Kingston fleming And 582 00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:55,200 snack junior guys that are gonna go in this twenty 583 00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:58,480 twenty SIX nba draft when that time comes From leave 584 00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:02,400 that conversation for another. Day, obviously who do you think 585 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,039 is gonna be matched up with? Them and what do 586 00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:05,880 you See i'll take from THIS byu basketball. 587 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 8: Team they're, explosive elite. Offense De bonsa the best player 588 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,160 in the. COUNTRY i think he would be in the 589 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:17,400 he'd be in the argument, there, right you'd have his 590 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,559 name in the. Hat you could debate. THAT i like 591 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,640 that you mentioned the, trio you, know, Right saunders And, 592 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,400 Devonsa because there's a lot of really good trios in 593 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,720 The big. Twelve i'm not sure there's one better THAN. 594 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:32,880 Byu you, Know kansas is. Good you Know peterson and 595 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,319 you And me would be a pretty good. Trio Iowa 596 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,279 state has a good trio With lipsey And jefferson And Mom. 597 00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:42,880 Schilovich so there's just a bunch of really good, teams 598 00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:45,599 really good. Trios BUT byu is right. THERE i, mean 599 00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:48,319 they have a, headliner they have one of the best 600 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:51,279 players in the, Country Richie. Saunders you know he could 601 00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:52,880 sneak into the first. Round, two he could have been 602 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,960 AN nba guy last. Year Rob wright one of the 603 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,200 best point, guards not only in this conference but in 604 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,480 the entire. Country so, yeah that's. THREE i use. 605 00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:04,119 Speaker 4: Legit, yeah he has definitely definitely. 606 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: Legit Trio, ap you got a question For, Jeremy let's 607 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,200 go ahead and turn it over. 608 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 9: You, YEAH i just wanted to ask specifically on The 609 00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:16,079 Rob RIGHT buyu struggled a lot lately to defend point. 610 00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:19,960 Guards defend specifically With Rob. Wright is that something you 611 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,319 See houston, attacking especially With Kingston flemings being so. 612 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,599 Speaker 8: Good, YEAH i would it. Would houston likes to hunt, 613 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,279 Matchups that's that's no. Secret so they'll they'll try to 614 00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:34,240 go out of defenders that they think they can get. To, 615 00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:37,480 now you, know this is kind of the chess match of, coaching, Right, 616 00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:40,319 like who Does Rob right match? Up Is Rob right 617 00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:43,160 matching up On Kingston flemings if he, is The houston 618 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,319 runs of actions where they switch him up and Get 619 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,079 Kingston flemings going against. Him so it's kind of the 620 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,880 chess match, There DO i use link is pretty EVIDENT 621 00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:54,039 a lot of links there when if they use that 622 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,160 to kind of Combat houston a little, bit But houston 623 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,599 will hunt match ups that that's, uh that's something that 624 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,240 they like to do. 625 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:05,319 Speaker 2: Offensively what is made kings and fleming just so good 626 00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:08,000 from your, STANDPOINT i was looking at the. NUMBERS i 627 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:11,359 think he's he averages over twenty or twenty five points 628 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,480 in top ranked. 629 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:14,119 Speaker 4: Matchups the lights are too bright for this. 630 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,799 Speaker 8: Kid, no he. Almost it's it's like he shines in, them, 631 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,400 Right and there's there's always in any, sport like there's 632 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,720 players who play well against really good, competition and there's 633 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,039 players where the competition kind of gets to, them, right 634 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,279 like it frustrates. Them it's you're playing good, defenses so 635 00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:33,240 you're not gonna have as much success against better. Defenses, 636 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,960 NO i think it's something that he. Craves he just 637 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:39,680 has that. MENTALITY i think it starts. THERE i think 638 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,079 it's the. Mentality he's got god given athletic attributes as, 639 00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:46,559 well but the mentality is something you don't see from any, 640 00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,400 freshmen you. Know it's it's kind of the killer instinct 641 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,160 that you see from seasoned, veterans kind of grizzled veterans 642 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,680 and he's had that day. One he's had that in high. 643 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:01,400 School he has that alpha, guard alpha man style about. 644 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,680 Him he is the outfit in the, room that's for. Sure. 645 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,480 Now his skill, set he's really good at. Everything he's 646 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,160 got a shot that can beat. You you, know he's 647 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,480 not gonna light it up Like Steph curry from behind 648 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,920 the three point line in terms of, volume but shoots 649 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,799 it at a high percentage because he has good shot. 650 00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:19,799 Selection he's good late in the shot, clock very. Athletic 651 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,160 so he gets to the rim and you know he 652 00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:24,279 can elevate on. You he can finish at the. Rim 653 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:27,319 his best, ATTRIBUTE i, think at least from my point of, 654 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,000 view is his first. Step he has a quick first 655 00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:32,680 step that you just don't see very. Often that allows 656 00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:35,519 him to blow by. Defenses and you, know depending on 657 00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:37,759 the defense he's, facing maybe you have a big that 658 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:39,640 comes over to contest at the, rim and then he 659 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,279 has the vision to find the open. Man so he 660 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,640 has it, all he really. Does but that quick first 661 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,480 step is the thing THAT i think stands out more than. 662 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,039 Speaker 5: Anything, YEAH i. 663 00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:52,279 Speaker 2: Watched him a couple of weeks. AGO i get your 664 00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:55,680 thoughts just on this freshman. Class fleming a drop forty. 665 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,960 Two you saw that you have close and personal best 666 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:58,400 seat in the. 667 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,359 Speaker 4: HOUSE i was. 668 00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: Tuned in watch to it BECAUSE i love college, Basketball 669 00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:03,000 big twelve basketball in. 670 00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:05,079 Speaker 4: General The bonser dropped forty. 671 00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 2: Three later that, Day waggler Where i'm from From, Chicago illinois, 672 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,800 line he, dropped you know forty. Six oh my, gosh 673 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:14,079 this freshman class is. 674 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 4: Ridiculous, yeah it. 675 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,559 Speaker 8: Was pretty crazy because we actually got suck In lubbock 676 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,960 in that game because of the ice the, weather it 677 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:23,599 was just too bad to fly, out so we had 678 00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:25,880 to stay On. Lubbock so we went to the hotel 679 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,800 after the, game AND i was watching it in the 680 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,800 room AND i was starting to. WONDER i was, Like, 681 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,559 OKAY i wonder what THE i was about to look it. Up, 682 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:34,039 ACTUALLY i was wondering for my prep for the next 683 00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:36,719 game or. Whatever who has the freshman record for the 684 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,760 most points in conference? Play Because kingston and you set 685 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,960 THE u OF h, record broke the record for What 686 00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:44,239 Rob williams had in the early, eighties SO i knew 687 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,559 he had done. That and AS i was starting to, think, 688 00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:48,719 OKAY i wonder who has The big twelve freshman? Record 689 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,440 was about to open up the computer BUT i had 690 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,760 THE byu game ON i think they were Playing utah that, 691 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,559 day and then he scores forty. Three, OKAY i LET 692 00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:58,559 byu do that. Prep THEN i don't need to do 693 00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:03,320 that research THAT I but, yeah the freshman in the. 694 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,519 UNBELIEVABLE i, mean this is one of the better freshman 695 00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:08,480 class we've seen in a really long. Time it feels 696 00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:09,719 like a lot of them are in The big twelve. 697 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,559 Too you Mentioned wagler From illinois and certainly not in 698 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:15,880 The big. Twelve boozer From duke's really. Good you look 699 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,519 across the. Country North carolina has a, Guy loisville has a. 700 00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:22,199 Guy but the freshman playing this league is Just you're 701 00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:24,920 probably the top two picks in the, draft and probably 702 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,519 three of the first. Five so it's it's pretty. Insane, 703 00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:29,599 yeah it's. 704 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,639 Speaker 4: Pretty insane for. 705 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: Sure we're currently on the line right now with THE 706 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,639 espn The fan in our last segment With Jeremie, brenham 707 00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:38,159 the voice of The Houston cougars men's basketball, team also 708 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,559 hosts ON espn ninety seven point five. 709 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 4: In houston as. 710 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,199 Speaker 2: Well De bonsa the name out, there that's who everybody 711 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,880 you know is trying to. Stop but it's so hard 712 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,079 because he can get to his. Spots who do you 713 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:53,360 think starts the? Game are they gonna throw multiple bodies 714 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,360 at this this, kid This Houston ross is probably familiar 715 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,400 WITH aj from people playing against him growing. 716 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,679 Speaker 8: Up, yeah not real, sure he's like you, mentioned he. 717 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,920 Has he has the ability to make every defensive assignment a. Mismatch, 718 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,480 right you can try to try to match him up 719 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,519 with his, size but he's fast and he's, athletic and 720 00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:16,119 he'll he'll be able to out athlete you if you 721 00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:19,159 try somebody that can match his quickness, potentially or at 722 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,280 least the best that you can with his quickness and. 723 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,000 Athleticism usually it's a smaller, guard and he's really, good 724 00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:27,559 like you, mentioned getting to his, spots rising and firing 725 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,920 over those. Guards, SO i mean it's a. Matchup it's 726 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,960 a mismatch for. Anybody everybody in the country is going 727 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,840 to have a difficult time DEFENDING. Aj i'm not sure 728 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,440 what The cougars. Do you, know they're not huge with 729 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,599 the guard position six, three, six four sixty four their, 730 00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:45,039 posts you, know can they keep up with with with? 731 00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:48,800 HIM i don't, know SO i would bet it's probably 732 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,679 the last thing you said where it's kind of all, 733 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,159 right let's throw some bodies at. Him let's see who's 734 00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:55,679 having some. Success if there's not success, there let's see 735 00:36:55,679 --> 00:36:57,280 if we can throw the kitchen sink at. Him so 736 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,400 it should be fun to watch early who draws that 737 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,000 assignment and how long they draw that assignment. 738 00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 2: For you're coming to the house That jimmer. Built that's 739 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,760 what they call. It at least that's WHAT i was 740 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,480 told right WHEN i. Started i'm From big ten. COUNTRY 741 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,079 i don't, understand you, know sometimes these rivalry. Terms but you, 742 00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:17,159 Know i've learned about him the MORE i go on 743 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,880 into it riding As i've, watched there doesn't seem Like 744 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,599 houston is phased by these big. Environments case To, flema 745 00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:26,840 we already mentioned it, Earlier Shines, bright what do they 746 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,440 need to do to come out Of provo with the, 747 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,280 win Because BYU's on a losing, streak they would love 748 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,760 to get a top ten win over you. 749 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 4: Guys, WELL i think the Easy answest. 750 00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:39,639 Speaker 8: Defend you're, RIGHT i mean, this going going to To 751 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,599 probo and playing is always a. THRILL i like the. 752 00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:45,280 ENVIRONMENTS i, mean the environments are kind of WHY i 753 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,199 love college. Basketball you go into these places that are 754 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,800 just loud and, noisy and you get the goose bumps 755 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,800 whenever it gets loud and. Noisy and there's a lot 756 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,039 of great stops in this, league you, KNOW i would 757 00:37:58,079 --> 00:37:59,880 Put Ptita's center up there with any of. Them. All 758 00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:03,719 Field house is obviously. Great aims is. UNBELIEVABLE i think 759 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,280 The Marriott center is the most underrated in the, country 760 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,599 Though i've had the good fortune of calling two games, 761 00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:13,519 there and the crowd there is on another. LEVEL i 762 00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:15,199 think they kind of get lost in the shuffle a 763 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,079 little bit when you're looking at the best crowds in the, 764 00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:20,320 country BECAUSE i would PUT byus fans up with anybody 765 00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:23,519 they pack in that. Place it is. Massive the students 766 00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:25,199 are on you the entire. GAME i think they call 767 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,679 it the, wall where it's just from the floor all 768 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,199 the way to the raptors where you're staring into that 769 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,760 the whole. Game and they're loud and. Noisy so it's 770 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,000 a great. Environment it's an intimidating. Environment they do a 771 00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:38,079 great job of. It the, DEFENSE i MEAN byu the. 772 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,239 Offense they have the star power that they, HAVE i 773 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,559 mean they average over eighty five points a. Game they 774 00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:46,719 can score on anybody even in a loss Against Oklahoma. 775 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,639 State At Oklahoma state they scored ninety. Two so, defense you, 776 00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:53,000 know KEEPING byu At bay, offensively you're not going to 777 00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,800 stop them, obviously but trying to keep them below their season. 778 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,119 Averages but it's going to be a good, test AND 779 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,880 i think a good battle of two contrasting. Styles right 780 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,719 they say they say in boxing that styles make, fights 781 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,199 and you have an elite offense, first an elite defense tomorrow. 782 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,280 NIGHT i think those styles make a pretty good. 783 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:09,519 Speaker 4: Fight. 784 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,519 Speaker 2: Definitely i'm excited for the elite offense and the elite, 785 00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:15,800 defense but have to remind the folks the elite defense 786 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,119 has won the last couple of. Matchups IF i have 787 00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:22,159 to remind the folks as, Well so maybe ball you. 788 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 4: Can lock a. 789 00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:25,119 Speaker 2: Defensive they struggle with, that and, Look i'm gonna All 790 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:26,960 i'm gonna say is, This if you're gonna Let kinks 791 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,800 And fleming get, going that'd be a bad. Decision IF 792 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,960 i were a betting, MAN i don't, bet but IF 793 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,880 i had, to from WHAT i know and watch on, 794 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,760 TAPE i wouldn't do. That houston plays B, yu let's 795 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,760 go through the rest of the, schedule and they kind 796 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,159 of you, KNOW i don't want to say a, gaunlet 797 00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:42,800 but it gets it gets. Tough you, know you GO 798 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,920 byu then At. Utah, right the road trip out here In. 799 00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:48,960 Utah how do you feel about the rest of the. 800 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,440 Schedule you got a gauntlet Of Iowa, state then you 801 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,280 host number One, arizona that you got to go To. 802 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,039 Speaker 4: Kansas, well it's. 803 00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 8: TOUGH i, mean it's it's a. Gauntlet everybody's The big 804 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:03,159 twelve is a difficult. Schedule but you, Know houston's road 805 00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:07,199 GAMES i think are pretty. Apparent you, LOOK i Mean Texas, 806 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,800 tech you played a home at, home so you can't 807 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,960 releasey anything about, that, right you got them at home. 808 00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 5: Road it's any. 809 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,559 Speaker 8: Split but the one matchup AGAINST, byu it's on the, 810 00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:19,599 road the one match up Against kansas In Allen, fieldhouse 811 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,960 the one match up Against Iowa state In Ames Oklahoma. 812 00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:25,960 State they're tough to be on the road and still. 813 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,320 Water that's the final road trip of the regular. Season 814 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,599 that's gonna be. Tough the one break you did have 815 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,039 is the loan matchup Against. Arizona you get them at. 816 00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:36,360 Home so all the all the, heavyweight you, know main, 817 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,199 event top of the marquee type of. Matchups most of 818 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,800 them are on the road For. Houston and then also 819 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,760 all the Big monday games For houston are on the 820 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,320 road At kansas on A, monday At Iowa state on A. 821 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,320 Monday what's tough about that, too is you're coming off 822 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,679 A saturday, Game you're Playing, saturday Traveling, sunday and playing 823 00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:58,199 at a powerhouse That monday night On Big. Monday so you, 824 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,039 KNOW i think that everybody kind of looks they're big twelve, Schedules, like, 825 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:03,519 man this is a. Gauntlet you, know it's certainly no 826 00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:05,719 different when you look at The houston. Schedule you, KNOW 827 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,760 i wish maybe there was an extra Big monday game 828 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,280 there For. Houston but when you had a sixteen team 829 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,239 league and you're playing eighteen games and you want to 830 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,039 put these heavyweights up against each other as often as you, 831 00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,679 CAN i wouldn't want to be a schedule maker in this. 832 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 2: League, nope don't want to be a schedule. Maker and 833 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,199 indeed there are some scheduled people that will still have 834 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,159 people come for them because there are still some folks 835 00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:29,199 in prove and that's still ping Me ron De boson 836 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,360 And peterson only one. Time, LOOK i don't make the. 837 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,480 Schedule IF i, DID i gave it to you three 838 00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:35,880 times IF i could. Have that's just how it. Goes 839 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,159 last TIME byu gotta win Over houston in provo Was december, 840 00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:45,159 fourth nineteen sixty, five behind thirty nine points from a certain. 841 00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:47,519 Player Jere man needs you to tell, me how do 842 00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:48,519 you see this one planning? Out? 843 00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:52,199 Speaker 4: Tomorrow we'll get you out of here on. This your 844 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,079 guest is as good as. 845 00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 8: MINE i, MEAN i think you have the country AND 846 00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:58,559 i think it's gonna be. Fun you, KNOW i mentioned 847 00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:02,840 the styles. CONTRASTED i also. Fights this is THAT i 848 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,000 know these two coaches have a lot of respect for one. 849 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,280 Another kind of an interesting storyline, there second year young 850 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,079 head coach And Kevin young versus kind of the you, 851 00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:13,760 know the old guard With Kelvin sampson in his thirty seventh, 852 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,039 year eight hundred and nineteen career victories of, BOTH i 853 00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:21,480 think top of the country coaches both in you both areas, 854 00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:25,800 there top of The big. Twelve you know this has seating, 855 00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:31,000 implications tournament. Implications it's just it's a heavyweight. Matchup it's 856 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,960 flip a. COIN i, mean it's tough to win on 857 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,039 the road in this. League it's tough to BE. Byu 858 00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:37,559 it's tough to Be. Houston flip the. Coin we'll see 859 00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:37,719 how it. 860 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 2: Goes, well flip a coin and see HOW i Goes 861 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,199 Before i'll let you. Go h what's the best way 862 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,719 we could support? You good luckily you, Recalling not that 863 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,000 you need, It but where can people tune in from 864 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,800 if they want to hear from you? 865 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 8: Tomorrow probably The varsity networks the easiest, spot ALTHOUGH i 866 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,440 can't imagine you have many fans Of utah wanted to do, 867 00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:56,440 that but you can't Have varsity. Network i'm very annoying 868 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,519 on social, media so don't even bother with the. Handle, 869 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:00,559 Well i'm. 870 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 2: Gonna track you down on social. Media i'm gonna give 871 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,320 you a. Follow i've been told That i'm annoying to 872 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,559 at least that's what my wife tells. 873 00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 4: Me so we can be two annoying people. Together But 874 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,199 jeremy will let you. 875 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 2: Go. PLEASE i know you traveled To probos, safely appreciate 876 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,239 your time today and good luck, tomorrow and save travels 877 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:15,719 for the rest of the. 878 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 8: Weekend thank you very, Much happy to do it. Anytime 879 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,880 you'll have a good one you. 880 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 4: Too that Was Jeremy. 881 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 2: Branham he is the voice of The Houston Cougars men 882 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,840 basketball radio and host OF espn ninety seven point Five. 883 00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:30,239 Houston down, there he's on ex At Jeremy. Brandham appreciate 884 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,400 him joining. Us, guys we gotta close out our. Show 885 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,960 we've had a great. Show shout at the bread always 886 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,320 bringing a. Hammer caleb lyants joining. Me they've taken off 887 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,159 for the. Day we appreciate ap as. 888 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:39,519 Speaker 4: Well. 889 00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 2: Guys shout out all of our, sponsors especially Rubys. 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