Speaker 1: Yo, yo yo, what's going on?
Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My
Speaker 2: Canic Case. I'm Kendon, Dave, I'm Griovy. In today's episode,
Speaker 2: we're gonna go through the recap of Big Cloud last weekend. Uh,
Speaker 2: we got exclusive brands getting fined by the CIRA. We're
Speaker 2: gonna dive into that. Etho Fast is coming up, you
Speaker 2: have Harvest Riley coming up, and then we're also gonna
Speaker 2: jump into a couple of articles that are from out
Speaker 2: of state, out of Michigan, so talking about pre rolls, Uh,
Speaker 2: Texas lawmaker smoking weed in their ad, and.
Speaker 1: Then also some upcoming events.
Speaker 2: Ye, cannabis is a big threat to the alcohol industry.
Speaker 2: I think that we all could agree with that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: let's first dive into Big Cloud this past weekend. We'll
Speaker 2: kick it off with that fun event we were out
Speaker 2: there Saturday and Sunday. If you didn't see us, Groovy
Speaker 2: performed on Friday or not Friday, on Saturday evening at
Speaker 2: six o'clock.
Speaker 1: It was one of the judge kits. We actually got
Speaker 1: some of the judge kit, but we didn't judge any
Speaker 1: of the flower because Dave did enter and we didn't
Speaker 1: feel like it was right, that is true.
Speaker 2: It was cool. It was like all the other similar
Speaker 2: to the other big cloud events, you had the main
Speaker 2: stage they also had. This time, they had like a
Speaker 2: speaker tent. I guess education series. I guess I'd say
Speaker 2: each yeah, because each one, each hour had like different
Speaker 2: different not influencers, activist growers, breeders that were all talking
Speaker 2: and talking about the play it and talking about activism
Speaker 2: and growing and so on and so forth, which is
Speaker 2: pretty cool because if you wanted to go check out
Speaker 2: some music you could. If you want to go here
Speaker 2: some education you could, If you want to go pick
Speaker 2: up some bood you could. You know, cool event. Overall,
Speaker 2: Groovy had a great performance.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was a fun event. You know. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, just a fessel, but it's more focused around
Speaker 1: the plant than the than the music. A lot of
Speaker 1: festivals I play are just like mainly just you know,
Speaker 1: music and stuff. Though it's kind of a nice break
Speaker 1: too where music is a big part of it, but
Speaker 1: the biggest part is just kind of having a chill
Speaker 1: time and smoking weed. I mean, even when you're playing,
Speaker 1: most of the crowd is sitting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And even what you know, especially during the day a
Speaker 1: lot of times, so I mean people were dancing here
Speaker 1: and there, but you know, it was the crowd is
Speaker 1: more chill. You know, it's more of a just getting
Speaker 1: down with a plantalk terms people trying to get good deals,
Speaker 1: you know, I did see I felt like a lot
Speaker 1: of people were just kind of coming getting deals and
Speaker 1: then making their way out. So that was you know,
Speaker 1: that's how people are with these type events, just like
Speaker 1: high times. You know, people try to go get deals
Speaker 1: and that's fun. Some people stick around for the culture
Speaker 1: and hang out and all that, and that's like that's
Speaker 1: what's kind of fun about is you get to see
Speaker 1: who's kind of like, you know, is around. They did
Speaker 1: a bunch of awards for like you know what did
Speaker 1: you call them activists and stuff, So it was really cool.
Speaker 1: Shout out Captain Kirk, shout out I mean Rick and
Speaker 1: everyone who did a great job. But you know, Michael
Speaker 1: Tooey got an award, Jamie Lile, Rick Thompson, ri IP.
Speaker 1: So it was a good event. I really liked the event.
Speaker 2: We had.
Speaker 1: I had some fun, got a little chilly at night.
Speaker 1: It was like pretty fun. Me and Dave ended up
Speaker 1: like it was getting so cold. One like the night
Speaker 1: we ended up going back and just like getting some
Speaker 1: drinks and chilling. It was chill, but it got wet.
Speaker 1: It was like, it's like a weird temperature because like
Speaker 1: when it's cold, it's cold. But when it was like
Speaker 1: cold and oist like I was getting, it was just
Speaker 1: it was it was. It was cold, but and I
Speaker 1: was still a lot of fun. It looked like the
Speaker 1: siland disco was bopping still, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have saw that popping off. It was
Speaker 2: a cool night man, that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: The awards went off. That one pretty cool, and yeah
Speaker 2: it's funny.
Speaker 1: I had all the things out of things I couldn't
Speaker 1: find yours today. I was gonna smoke your blueberry baming,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't find him. It must have fell out
Speaker 1: of the case when I was moving around.
Speaker 2: Oh really, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Somewhere. I'm sure it's okay. And the one I did
Speaker 1: want to try, I lost that box bag already, so
Speaker 1: hopefully I find it that comes and goes, comes and goes.
Speaker 2: If not, chalk it up, but yeah, let's the will
Speaker 2: probably look to get fang in rick On and some
Speaker 2: of the big cloud fan up before the months.
Speaker 1: Before we move on, though, I do want to shout
Speaker 1: out one thing about this event that I really like
Speaker 1: compared to any event or not any event, just what
Speaker 1: I like about it, in like, in comparison to some
Speaker 1: of these one sided events that are mainly focused towards
Speaker 1: one side or the other, meaning caregiver and adun't use.
Speaker 1: I really enjoy that they really were focusing on showing
Speaker 1: love to both sides, whether it be shouting out those
Speaker 1: who like you know, went to Metric that used to
Speaker 1: be on caregiver or people being on Metric who said
Speaker 1: don't like, don't let the caregiver stuff go away. You know,
Speaker 1: there's this big bad respect, you know, because there was
Speaker 1: brands they represent, brands that were out here, you know,
Speaker 1: in the in the au. But you know, people believe
Speaker 1: what they believe, and you can't stop the movement, especially
Speaker 1: for a lot of these people who really have been
Speaker 1: in it since the beginning. So I think sometimes people
Speaker 1: just see different you know, and come like futures and outcomes,
Speaker 1: Like some people want to go to Metrics, some people
Speaker 1: just want to do their care everything. It's cool, but
Speaker 1: that's why we need both. And I said this today
Speaker 1: of a million times. I've said this to Rick when
Speaker 1: we were talking. As long as there's one patient, the
Speaker 1: med side should exist. I don't really care. Besides that,
Speaker 1: you know, the caregivers show to grow for med stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, they want to blame the caregivers for trappers,
Speaker 1: and that's just simply not the fact. You know, people
Speaker 1: are always going to trap where it's any any product
Speaker 1: where you can make money and flipping, they're gonna sell it.
Speaker 1: People do illegal like purses all the time. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's not just weed. People want to like
Speaker 1: point a weed. Like I said, it's not the caregivers.
Speaker 1: It's the people that are exploiting these things for their
Speaker 1: own benefit, the trappers. So you know what, that's why
Speaker 1: I always say we got to give respect to both sides,
Speaker 1: because you know, it's just it's just negative rhetoric and
Speaker 1: hate against the other side that keeps us separated, that
Speaker 1: creates this. Oh I think that this people. If you
Speaker 1: like metch then you must not prefer caregivers. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not like that. And the people who are like
Speaker 1: that are clearly just trying to like argue about something.
Speaker 1: And it's like I just don't simply understand why. And again,
Speaker 1: maybe their own experience had them hate something, whether they
Speaker 1: went something through like you. But I just really like
Speaker 1: like events like this because they are trying to build bridges.
Speaker 1: So shout out a Big Lab.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you on that rib the
Speaker 2: shout out to Big Cloud. Overall a good event, overall good.
Speaker 2: I'm curious if they'll do one more this year or
Speaker 2: if they'll just probably wait until next year to do anymore. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But I don't know if organic cups technically put on
Speaker 2: by Big Cloud, because I don't think what it was
Speaker 2: when we went, because when they did the Organic Cup,
Speaker 2: they did Organic Cup in New York like years ago too,
Speaker 2: so I don't know if it's the same, but it
Speaker 2: could be. It could be Big Cloud presents, so I
Speaker 2: could be completely off. So but if they are doing
Speaker 2: the Organic Cup, that'd be cool. We'll see. I'll have
Speaker 2: to pay attention to the entries. Definitely won't enter my
Speaker 2: stuff nineteen days early, That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, I hear you. So which articles do
Speaker 1: you want to jump? And I think I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: start off with Ethogenic Fest here, So Ethogenic.
Speaker 2: We'll stick into Michigan.
Speaker 1: First Ethogenic Festival is fest Over in Michigan. If you
Speaker 1: haven't heard of it. It is mostly about mushrooms. It's
Speaker 1: not necessarily cannabis focused. But I just put cams news
Speaker 1: updates because we always have. But Ethogenic Fest is target
Speaker 1: It's like pretty much like a hash Bash at the
Speaker 1: for mushrooms. That's how I look at it, because it's
Speaker 1: talking about activism. People are doing speeches all day. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, you know, people telling stories
Speaker 1: and saying what's wrong with the laws and how it's
Speaker 1: helped them. So it reminds me of like hash Bash
Speaker 1: when you're at like the Diagon, and it's in the
Speaker 1: same blaze that the Diag. I think it might even
Speaker 1: be the same band that plays Yeah, pretty good vibe.
Speaker 2: That's twenty second September this year. It's on a Saturday,
Speaker 2: I believe, so I thought it was during Sunday Sunday.
Speaker 1: Sorry for some reason.
Speaker 2: It's on a Sunday and it takes place from one
Speaker 2: to eleven to four to twenty some speakers. You have
Speaker 2: our Jeff Irwin, State Senator, Washington County Commissioner Yusuf for
Speaker 2: rabbing other local advocates nationwide or gone in Colorado made
Speaker 2: the only two states have fully legalized recreational psychedelics. So
Speaker 2: but since then, Detroit, Ferndale and Hazel Park have followed
Speaker 2: south with a decriminalization of it. Wooll, I guess it's
Speaker 2: not decriminalization. I guess they just deprioritized law enforcement on
Speaker 2: these plans. It's technically what it says above it. So
Speaker 2: but hopefully Michigan in the coming years it gets down
Speaker 2: of the ballot, maybe the next four years, maybe the
Speaker 2: next election, maybe in the midterm coming up twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: because like, like we do have some big cities that
Speaker 2: do already have it deprioritize. So if that continues, then
Speaker 2: I could see it be coming here uh legal in
Speaker 2: the state of Michigan. So if you are available, go
Speaker 2: check out etho at uh at Etho Fast Jesus Christ,
Speaker 2: September twenty second.
Speaker 1: The thing is, there's more money to be made from weed,
Speaker 1: so I could feel like mushrooms could pass even easier
Speaker 1: because there's not gonna be this influx of mushrooms. Like
Speaker 1: you can't just eat mushrooms and like go hang out
Speaker 1: with the friends and come home like it's a wild
Speaker 1: time and you just eat a bunch of mushrooms, right,
Speaker 1: maybe a little beatn but it it's not.
Speaker 2: It's I think it's gonna be the micros. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I think the micro.
Speaker 1: I'm off right, that's fine, that's cool. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna pop off. I think that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm staying there's.
Speaker 2: Just gonna be a lot of money though, either that's
Speaker 2: what I mean by.
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, that's sometimes I say. It's like, no matter
Speaker 1: how you look at I don't think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of movement the way cannabis. People just burn
Speaker 1: through it really fast or fundies put out giants for
Speaker 1: all big blunts. Like the product burns and it's expensive.
Speaker 1: So it's like relatively like mushrooms just last you forever.
Speaker 1: Like most people who micro it's gonna an a it's
Speaker 1: gonna last them a month. You know you're gonna buy
Speaker 1: you know, you know. So it's just not gonna make
Speaker 1: the same money cannabis is. So I feel like it'll
Speaker 1: go legal quicker because not as many people making money
Speaker 1: or holding it back. You know. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: weed has been held back by people trying to make
Speaker 1: money since the fucking beginning, since the fucking the people
Speaker 1: who own lumber, who I want to hold back hemp
Speaker 1: and started reformand is to begin with. It all has
Speaker 1: to do with hemp and lumber. It has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with cannabis. So it's it's always been held back
Speaker 1: by some other industry hating. Now it's just alcohol or tobacco,
Speaker 1: it's just other It's just because hemp and we can
Speaker 1: do so much that the people trying to make money
Speaker 1: and knew that they could corner pocket and make more
Speaker 1: money regularly just screwed help people over. So it's been
Speaker 1: like that since the beginning though. So I just think
Speaker 1: that cannabis just makes way more money because if he
Speaker 1: has way more it can do, and who knows, maybe
Speaker 1: mushrooms will be able to do more. I just mean,
Speaker 1: like for textiles and doing all these other things that
Speaker 1: like a plant can do versus I don't know if
Speaker 1: mushrooms can turn into other things. Yeah, you know, we'll see,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, with research.
Speaker 2: Time will tell. Time will jump back into Michigan. Exclusive
Speaker 2: brands got hit with a couple of violations. Man, they
Speaker 2: got hit with a couple of thirteen.
Speaker 1: Because I like, I like some people here. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to drop names, but I like a
Speaker 1: couple of the people over the team because they have
Speaker 1: treated us well, and you know, I really do like
Speaker 1: the team. So when I was reading this article, it's
Speaker 1: pretty crazy and it comes down to simply a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of little, like not little, a lot
Speaker 1: of mistakes with paperwork, improper storage or keeping, prepper records,
Speaker 1: surveillance recordings, monitoring systems exactly. It's all these little things
Speaker 1: that just kind of added up and before you know it,
Speaker 1: it added up to be like a handful, you know.
Speaker 1: And two violations. And that's the thing. I thought. Two
Speaker 1: violations meaning like two slaps on the wrist. No, they
Speaker 1: mean to violations by two times. This has happened multiple things,
Speaker 1: and it's pretty intense when you start reading it all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, just kind of skimmed through it. Catch you
Speaker 1: all up.
Speaker 2: So, uh, I'm gonna grab someone uck, let you catch
Speaker 2: them up on the article.
Speaker 1: Okay, Dave's gonna leave bye, all right. So both complaints
Speaker 1: include sevalanches of improper record keeping, failing to keep track
Speaker 1: of dissolate it's a bummer, which you're highly purified canvas product. Obviously,
Speaker 1: according to one complaint, more than ten pounds of cannabis
Speaker 1: cannot be located. It is now on a second complaint
Speaker 1: in resolved the inspector requesting access to the BIS video
Speaker 1: cameras and the director of operations able to provide access
Speaker 1: to the scary system. See. I think that could be
Speaker 1: for multiple reasons. So that's why sometimes when you read
Speaker 1: these violations, it's like, I wonder the whole story. I
Speaker 1: wonder if there were certain things that he just couldn't do.
Speaker 1: I don't know that just they make it sound worse
Speaker 1: in this article by Fox, So you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: You just don't know. But some of this stuff is
Speaker 1: just facts, like another eighty three pounds of cannabis product
Speaker 1: cannot be located in a physical inventory the business which
Speaker 1: improper improper records is probably what they were referring to before.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, there was more than eight eight two hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty grams of product physically in the business despite them
Speaker 1: being recorded, having them being combined with the other packaging
Speaker 1: and product. That's a lot of product, yes, And then
Speaker 1: they're basically saying they weren't even in the system. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is what kind of how it sounds saying that it's
Speaker 1: like three hundred and fifty thousand dollars with a product
Speaker 1: and when they asked the disprecancy and they just had
Speaker 1: no idea, So it's like everyone was just kind of
Speaker 1: pleading the fifth and so I think it kind of
Speaker 1: elludes the CRA to theirs some shady stuff going on
Speaker 1: where they're kind of putting two together. They just don't
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like they have a lot of facts of
Speaker 1: what this is, what they've been doing, or what they're
Speaker 1: doing it for, just that like why is this product here?
Speaker 1: Why can't I access this? To the point where they're
Speaker 1: just mad, you know, because it sounds like many things
Speaker 1: ed led up to the CRA being just pissed.
Speaker 2: Yes, and the susaves twenty one in days to request
Speaker 2: to hearing after receiving a complaint. So I'll be curious
Speaker 2: if what finds they get and how much money they're
Speaker 2: gonna get hit with. Did they lose a license? Like
Speaker 2: they hasn't been fooling around And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: A brand, So it's probably talking about the dispensary itself,
Speaker 1: not the individual brands, right, And then if you look
Speaker 1: at when this was pet published. This was September six,
Speaker 1: so technically when this episode comes out five days prior,
Speaker 1: so I mean, we only have two weeks and two
Speaker 1: days and then we'll we'll find out, so we'll be
Speaker 1: following you all up. You know.
Speaker 2: I realized, Yeah, it's uh, it's funny.
Speaker 1: This is my undershirt today. I just like took off
Speaker 1: my pollo and this isn't even promo. They're not our partners,
Speaker 1: but if you want to reach out, I.
Speaker 2: Don't live live resident. If you want to partner, reach
Speaker 2: out please.
Speaker 1: Actually it's funny because, like I said, Calvin Tron came
Speaker 1: to the audio gig, I.
Speaker 2: Was doing Megatron.
Speaker 1: Sorry, well his name is Calvin, and then.
Speaker 2: I know I just like, like you understand, Like at
Speaker 2: least I was just like I don't know I did.
Speaker 2: I actually kind of liked that better than both of them
Speaker 2: because it's calvit Calvatron.
Speaker 1: There you go see shout out Calvitron. He liked our
Speaker 1: advocate against fire. Maybe he'll like my next nickname. What's up?
Speaker 1: Go coming out? Come on the podcast. Bro, You'll be
Speaker 1: like out of frame. He'll just be like right here
Speaker 1: and I'll be uh so no, yeah, you know, in
Speaker 1: this exclusive brand stuff is just kind of crazy. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're just kind of
Speaker 1: kind of have to wait and see, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really all you can do with that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, so I mean, real quick, before we
Speaker 1: get into the next like a couple of articles, just
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing I learned a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: you respect more the more you learn about a product.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's just like you know, for me, like like for me,
Speaker 1: like one of my favorite things in the world was pop, right,
Speaker 1: and so I really learned how bad it was for me,
Speaker 1: and then I started like trying with Croix, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's just so much better for you. You just
Speaker 1: take these steps, right, And this is one of those
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Speaker 1: a lot of THC, a lot of those brownies and
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Speaker 2: While we're talking about this, it's going to ease right
Speaker 2: into our next subject, which kind of we even talked
Speaker 2: about in that episode, is that marijuinea legalization is a
Speaker 2: significant threat to the alcohol industry. Why because people are
Speaker 2: starting to substitute cannabis for beer and wine. They're starting
Speaker 2: to substitute beer and wine with cannabis, and an easy
Speaker 2: way for a lot of people that have drink alcohol
Speaker 2: is you could have a little THHD, drink a little
Speaker 2: bit to milligrams hunter milligrams and drink it like that,
Speaker 2: or you just start diving right into edibles, vabes, flour.
Speaker 2: You could say dabbing, but I don't see many jumping
Speaker 2: right into dabbing. Maybe with the puff co, But with cannabis,
Speaker 2: there's so many different ways to get what you're looking
Speaker 2: for through different products compared to alcohol, where with alcohol
Speaker 2: it is just pretty much drinking, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: like groovy, you can smoke it, you can eat it,
Speaker 2: you can drink it with, you can vape it, and
Speaker 2: that's all cannabis.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But with alcohol, like like Dave was just saying,
Speaker 1: our next article is leading is essentially they were just
Speaker 1: talking about that marijuana legalization is a threat to the
Speaker 1: cams industry, I mean to the alcohol industry, excuse me.
Speaker 1: And I do think there's some degree you're absolutely right
Speaker 1: and probably mostly right. I just think it's kind of
Speaker 1: crazy to think how different the product is. But just
Speaker 1: like what you said, to add to your point, it's
Speaker 1: because it's healthier, so maybe it did the buzz is
Speaker 1: a little different, but people are settling because they'd rather
Speaker 1: be healthier than blacking out and drinking all this sugar
Speaker 1: and all this bad for you. You know, you can
Speaker 1: think about joint and be just as fucked up, especially
Speaker 1: if you're not used to it.
Speaker 2: Right, I think about this thing about how bad alcohol
Speaker 2: is for the body. Think about how many people have
Speaker 2: been affected by drunk driving debts, drunk driving injuries from
Speaker 2: drinking and driving, not deaths, but just injuries after all
Speaker 2: the all the crap that you go through with the
Speaker 2: DW I, how it ruins families and all this stuff
Speaker 2: that happens with alcohol. Right, And then you look at
Speaker 2: cannabis and the most you're seeing is people going to
Speaker 2: jail over a plant that's not even showing the effects
Speaker 2: that that alcohol does. Cannabis you can smoke it, you
Speaker 2: can eat it, and like you said, if you're sitting
Speaker 2: at the house chilling, you'll be fine. You're you're chilling,
Speaker 2: and you don't you don't see these car accidents and
Speaker 2: these deaths with alcohol like you do. Are you with
Speaker 2: with cannabis like you do with alcohol? You really don't? Yeah,
Speaker 2: And like that's alcohol, alcohol so bad for you. After
Speaker 2: a couple of drinks.
Speaker 1: Well, what it is is to me, the big thing is,
Speaker 1: like the big argument with like any drug is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's some good things and there's some bad things. It's
Speaker 1: just to me, when the drugs bad outweigh the good
Speaker 1: by so much, isn't it obviously it should be illegal,
Speaker 1: you know, Like that's what the ironic and bullshit thing
Speaker 1: about about cannabis and hemp is is why is this,
Speaker 1: well cannabis now not just not anymore? Well, why is
Speaker 1: it illegal when it has so many more good things
Speaker 1: than bad? Right where alcohol has very few things like okay,
Speaker 1: sure it will destress you in small amounts. Right, there
Speaker 1: are good there are there's good to alcohol. That's why
Speaker 1: I said, I never want to knock all the drug
Speaker 1: but there are so many bad things that outweigh it
Speaker 1: that for some but for some reason, alcohol there's like
Speaker 1: when we looked up, there's no way to like really
Speaker 1: you can just make as much as you want. You
Speaker 1: can just there's there's no regulation how much you can buy,
Speaker 1: like it's just so easy to access. But that's the
Speaker 1: one that's legal. That's what doesn't make sense, right, I
Speaker 1: understand drugs always have good and always have bad in them.
Speaker 1: And we can always argue to we're blue in the
Speaker 1: face on our opinions, but this is just fact. What
Speaker 1: Dave is saying, what I am saying. There is just
Speaker 1: way more good to cannabis than alcohol, And it doesn't
Speaker 1: even make sense. They shouldn't even be compared because they're
Speaker 1: not even the same. The reason why we compare them
Speaker 1: is because it doesn't make sense that it's legal to
Speaker 1: begin with, and alcohol is so legal and so pushed,
Speaker 1: so normalized. Oh, we can't have edibles that look like skittles,
Speaker 1: but we can have bubble gum flavored Swedish fish vodka.
Speaker 2: Flavors. So to smear enough. New Amsterdam's got like ten.
Speaker 2: I used to be an alcohol sales are at many
Speaker 2: alcohol for everything legally.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You were a but tender.
Speaker 2: H vices.
Speaker 1: You know, like the party, Kennedy likes the party. Kennedy
Speaker 1: likes the party.
Speaker 2: Sounds like check out this pretty I'm pretty exhausted, ready.
Speaker 1: For this second pair of crocs? What's up? And I
Speaker 1: just want to throw Dave off on that one days
Speaker 1: but fucking with Dave, I'm getting crocks now. He's not
Speaker 1: for it. Dave just turned off his camera. We lost Dave.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ute his MIC's that way, we can't hear him.
Speaker 1: His MIC's off. Oh there he's at but you can't
Speaker 1: hear him now, So it's pretty crazy. I wonder what
Speaker 1: he's saying. I guess we should find out.
Speaker 2: This guy gets a pair of crocs. This guy gets
Speaker 2: a pair of crocks for his birthday. Let's say we'll
Speaker 2: see that's like ten, ten, twelve, you know, maybe fifteen
Speaker 2: days ago now, it's probably twenty two days ago, to
Speaker 2: be honest, matter hasn't been that long now. I was
Speaker 2: already got his second pair of crocs. My dude, come.
Speaker 1: On, sponsored me in for groovy because like, dude, I
Speaker 1: bought tight iyes for State.
Speaker 2: I love it. I'm gonna give you a hard time.
Speaker 2: That's why I showed you.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was a funny little sport MODEV.
Speaker 2: Let's show everybody's sport mode.
Speaker 1: We'll do that later. You know, you'll you'll see on
Speaker 1: the recap for Big Cloud. But we got two more things.
Speaker 1: And this next one Dave sent me, and it's kind
Speaker 1: of because it's like kind of makes sense, which honestly,
Speaker 1: you know what I actually we're gonna do this out
Speaker 1: of order because I want to pull up the graph
Speaker 1: that's on that one. So we're gonna do that last. Sorry,
Speaker 1: we're gonna jump into this one that Dave sent me
Speaker 1: as well. But this one was kind of meat. This
Speaker 1: was about a Texas candidate. So this Texas candidate, I
Speaker 1: don't know, actually break Texas man, she's the Texas House
Speaker 1: candidate is smokes while calling for legislation in a new
Speaker 1: campaign ad. So I thought that was pretty wild. And
Speaker 1: you sent this to me when you.
Speaker 2: Put the add on, man, put the ad on.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 2: Check her props for smoking on it.
Speaker 1: I think that's just this still alone. When I just
Speaker 1: see her like she's just puffed, leaning over lighting the joint,
Speaker 1: it's like, let's go.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of that one guy that was running
Speaker 2: the other year from New Orleans. I think that did
Speaker 2: it smoke. I don't think you won though.
Speaker 1: Well anyways, here let's check it out. Like Dave said,
Speaker 1: let's here, I guess.
Speaker 3: Sally Duval and I'm running for the Texas House of Representatives.
Speaker 3: You might already know what's in this, but do you
Speaker 3: know who has no idea, no way to test it?
Speaker 2: Oh damn, I don't law enforcements.
Speaker 3: They arrest people every day for marijuana possession, but they
Speaker 3: don't have the fundator of the test if it's illegal
Speaker 3: marijuana or a federally legal hemp product. Our laws are
Speaker 3: confusing and unclear. While marijuana remains illegal for most Texas,
Speaker 3: hemp products that can get you high, like Delta eight,
Speaker 3: Delta nine, and THHCA are being sold at more than
Speaker 3: seven thousand retailers statewide Arlington and Governor he wants to
Speaker 3: both regulate and fan these products. Now, duntug a genius
Speaker 3: to figure out you can't do both of these things. Fortunately,
Speaker 3: we don't have to choose between safety and legalization. We
Speaker 3: can and should have both. But it's going to take
Speaker 3: leaders who know enough and Karenough to do what's right.
Speaker 3: My opponent doesn't, which is a real shame. Not only
Speaker 3: will legalization and regulation help support our small farm and
Speaker 3: medically complex Texans, but the tax revenue could be used
Speaker 3: to help fund education, public health, and mental health services.
Speaker 3: So here's the bottom line. Texans should have the freedom
Speaker 3: to consume these products if they want to. You can
Speaker 3: visit my website to read all about my common sense policy.
Speaker 3: I'm Sally, you all, and I believe it's high time
Speaker 3: for change in Texas.
Speaker 1: I added that cheers. That was not in the commercial.
Speaker 1: I really like that because honestly, most campaigns you see
Speaker 1: are bashing something or using propaganda or using their opinions
Speaker 1: to push what they touly do. That was truly just
Speaker 1: using facts to promote logical information to say, why isn't
Speaker 1: this logical? That was like, I want to move to
Speaker 1: Texas just so I can live where she lives, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, let's go Sally.
Speaker 2: And hopefully it's near Austin, so it's near the comedy
Speaker 2: comedy Mothership, so you can just go watch some comedy
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man. And she points out the fact about like
Speaker 1: how it helps farm you know much hemp could add
Speaker 1: to agriculture, And I understand that lumber was a big deal,
Speaker 1: but now we need those trees. And then hemp actually
Speaker 1: produces more oxygen per field lumber than most trees. So
Speaker 1: it's like just just fucking let them both be and
Speaker 1: let the best company work and let the text title
Speaker 1: that works the best for each product work. You know,
Speaker 1: lumber is still gonna you, you know, if anything, Let's
Speaker 1: let HEMP take over for a while, let the trees
Speaker 1: come back, and then maybe you know, like geez, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's like I can't.
Speaker 2: Gary Chambers last year, Gary Chambers.
Speaker 1: But that was that was more badass. That was more
Speaker 1: like this doesn't make sense. I'm gonna smoke weed on
Speaker 1: he did.
Speaker 2: I was titled thirty seven seconds to reference to research
Speaker 2: finding that police in the US make a marijuana related
Speaker 2: arrest every thirty seven seconds.
Speaker 1: And that was crazy.
Speaker 2: I was in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was But she was so logical. That's why
Speaker 1: I loved about it. She was so logical about that
Speaker 1: whole commercial, like it was really hard to argue. And
Speaker 1: I think that's why I'm just like, I really love
Speaker 1: that one. I really enjoyed that command.
Speaker 2: No, I absolutely agree to grieve. Is she push? You
Speaker 2: laid it out there perfect, bring both of them. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna try to reach out to see we get her
Speaker 2: quick five ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just amazing. Actually, we have a
Speaker 1: huge falling in Texas.
Speaker 2: For text cast.
Speaker 1: Listen, Michigan is pretty much North Texas, and I don't
Speaker 1: care what anyone says, yeah, no, they got. I'm just
Speaker 1: kidding with a lot of the law, Lucy, the like
Speaker 1: the things we care about. I'm just joking around. It's
Speaker 1: not but anyways, like let's get back to this last article.
Speaker 1: The reason why I skipped over at first, bro is
Speaker 1: because I just wanted to pull up the graft that
Speaker 1: we had because I'll first I'll pull up.
Speaker 2: And shout out to marijuana movement. That's where these last
Speaker 2: year are.
Speaker 1: Always, always, always, always, always US customers spend more than
Speaker 1: four point one billion dollars on pre rolls in one
Speaker 1: I think talking about that is because it's made a
Speaker 1: really big jump, you know what I mean, Because when
Speaker 1: you pull up this graph and stuff, you can kind
Speaker 1: of see it shows you what where has each grown.
Speaker 1: It's not even really that big of a jump, but
Speaker 1: relatively it's like like this, you know, a little bit over,
Speaker 1: but it kind of makes I mean it is.
Speaker 2: It is the biggest at eleven almost twelve percent, and
Speaker 2: then beverages at eleven percent. Yeah, which is which is
Speaker 2: actually interesting to think because I just keep going back
Speaker 2: to the beverage talking because we were just talking about
Speaker 2: beverages earlier in the episode, and then we had fronts
Speaker 2: on with high nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I see that.
Speaker 2: I see that increasing as well with people switching from alcohol.
Speaker 1: Well as because we're right now, we're right here to
Speaker 1: the legalization part. I really do think that beverages and
Speaker 1: these edibles and teatures they're going to make some type
Speaker 1: of jump, only because like it's it's it's the new generation.
Speaker 1: It's the people who were vaping and like and stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I think the vaping has taken
Speaker 1: over right, just over you know, the past few years,
Speaker 1: handful of years, because this next generation is vaping or
Speaker 1: more than any of the other products. So where you
Speaker 1: see flower staying pretty much mostly dominant, you know, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Vape really been strong for a while. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but vapes have been strong for a while. But this
Speaker 1: is only from this past year, this year to last year,
Speaker 1: so it hasn't been that long. But if this was
Speaker 1: ten years like ago of a chart, vapes would be
Speaker 1: much smaller, right, It's only because.
Speaker 2: Everything would be much smaller, just be flower.
Speaker 1: I mean, shit, I guess since twenty twenty year, right,
Speaker 1: but since twenty twenty, I think we've really seen vape nineteen.
Speaker 1: Maybe we've seen a vape just increase, and I think
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting that sister generation, but this whole generation.
Speaker 1: That's why I want to say pre rolls I think
Speaker 1: is making it too because most people don't even roll
Speaker 1: their own joints anymore, especially because of pre rolls. So
Speaker 1: people are just buying pre roll packs and smoking them
Speaker 1: on the go, and then when they're alone, they're just
Speaker 1: hitting vapes. You know, not everyone wants to roll high
Speaker 1: quality flower. A lot of people are just getting high.
Speaker 2: You know, there's an absolutely different consumer out there, different consumer,
Speaker 2: absolutely just a wart on the go. They see the
Speaker 2: five five to do five five pre rolls for like
Speaker 2: ten bucks, and they're like, all right, yeah, you're seeing
Speaker 2: the gone.
Speaker 1: You're seeing the change from the people who are smoking
Speaker 1: only medically or for themselves to the people who are
Speaker 1: legally partying with it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: You know that a lot of people who just party
Speaker 1: with it just bought it illegally, like medical was the
Speaker 1: only thing that was around for a long time. You
Speaker 1: know that adult usus shifted a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not shocking because when we go to
Speaker 2: like MJ. Biscond Groovy or Cannoncon, what was here in Detroit,
Speaker 2: like what was one of the main things that we
Speaker 2: saw there, man, that was mass producing pre rolls like
Speaker 2: that was something that everyone was looking for. With the
Speaker 2: automation to produce fifteen thousand PREI rolls in like two minutes,
Speaker 2: You're like, what.
Speaker 1: A lot of people can't roll joints man like or
Speaker 1: don't want to know?
Speaker 2: It takes time, and no, it takes time to think
Speaker 2: about think about if you're going like downtown for a
Speaker 2: concert or you're going downtown to the bars, most people
Speaker 2: would rather just hit the disco, go and have their
Speaker 2: probably their stuff for them. I mean, me, I'm going
Speaker 2: to roll out my joints, but that's just because that's
Speaker 2: how I've been smoking for how long?
Speaker 1: Like, But it takes you, like, I don't know, eight
Speaker 1: minutes to roll eight four joints, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's not it takes people time and so, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not that they can't either. Sometimes it's just that
Speaker 1: they don't want to, you know. And if if so,
Speaker 1: I don't know and agains.
Speaker 2: People might not some people might not like the process
Speaker 2: of literally breaking down the weed, getting your finger sticky,
Speaker 2: grinding it up, breaking up.
Speaker 1: I think it's this new generation I think it's that
Speaker 1: less connection to the plant, less of this like, oh,
Speaker 1: it was a whole experience where now it's just like
Speaker 1: go to the dispot when I get high, I get
Speaker 1: I get some week right. You know, Before it was
Speaker 1: like a whole experience, man, that whole like almost like
Speaker 1: religious thing of getting it all your homies, rolling it
Speaker 1: up together, light it up, getting the drinks already, getting
Speaker 1: in your chill spot. Like it was like a whole thing.
Speaker 1: It was like a whole thing you did. Now it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just gonna pick up we don't know home. It's
Speaker 1: kind of killed the excitement of it all a little
Speaker 1: bit in a way, not necessarily for everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: like when we do things like Big Cloud and you
Speaker 1: go like experience and love the plant with the culture,
Speaker 1: that's why I feel like it comes alive. But sometimes
Speaker 1: that like taboo iss in the beginning was what made
Speaker 1: you really show you appreciate it, like I'm putting my
Speaker 1: life over it's just to smoke this shit. You don't
Speaker 1: have that anymore.
Speaker 2: I did, I know, I mean I went through some
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: At least here in Michigan. For the substates are listening
Speaker 1: that it probably is like.
Speaker 2: I mean, I even that there's countries, bro, I mean
Speaker 2: this people listening around the world for on this podcast,
Speaker 2: so that it says we got It's not we want
Speaker 2: the plant free around the world like one day, that'd
Speaker 2: be amazing. But in the United States who want it
Speaker 2: free as well too, there's still states that aren't even there.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to give credits everyone outside of the
Speaker 2: US as well too that can't smoke, that try to smoke.
Speaker 2: So we shall see. I do you want to say
Speaker 2: we will be going live this Saturday, nine am Eastern
Speaker 2: and we have and then the next two Saturday's, I
Speaker 2: don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: What's that fast or Thursday, which is tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Thursday is the harvest rally at the Capitol. I believe
Speaker 2: it's at twelve. I believe it's at twelve eleven or twelve.
Speaker 2: I will come right around there. I will be I
Speaker 2: will not be able to make it out there. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: I am stuck at the day job. There'sday oh, and
Speaker 2: we have actual recording, which will be sweet because that'll
Speaker 2: be released. Well, that'll be a it's gonna be two guests.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna give you any more information, but it's
Speaker 2: on collaborations, so it'll be sweet. It's gonna be a
Speaker 2: fun episode. I'm going to learn all about collabse from
Speaker 2: process from flower to concentrate, so what goes into it.
Speaker 2: So that's a little sneak peak of why also and
Speaker 2: then yeah, that was all. That's all. I just want
Speaker 2: to give a quick little shout out there all right.
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Speaker 2: So absolutely absolutely, man, Yeah, I think I think were
Speaker 2: you wrapped up on the pre world conversation. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I cut you off.
Speaker 1: We lost track of it. It's fine. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: it makes sense. I mean, I think vapor and flour
Speaker 1: are gonna be the main ones for a long time
Speaker 1: because a lot of concentrates people don't always get into
Speaker 1: because it sucks them up. It gets the high so
Speaker 1: quick that a lot of people don't like it, right yeah,
Speaker 1: or you know, or they take like giant dabs and
Speaker 1: they get it so high that they're like, no things.
Speaker 1: I'm good at its weed, right, and then vapes just
Speaker 1: that convenience factor, you know, and you know, so I
Speaker 1: think right now that makes sense. And I just think
Speaker 1: the pre roll thing you're just gonna keep seeing climbing
Speaker 1: because of the convenience factor. Nothing really more than that,
Speaker 1: and badly, honestly, I guess I should say this. One
Speaker 1: more thing about pre rolls is honestly, back in the day,
Speaker 1: pre rolls used to be full of shake and trash,
Speaker 1: so you only bottom when you were broke. Nowadays there's
Speaker 1: like decent pre rolls, which because like you guys, remember
Speaker 1: donuts are considered pre rolls. All those hemp ones, like
Speaker 1: anything with infusion, those are all pre rolls probably in
Speaker 1: their opinion, right, because no infused pre roll is a
Speaker 1: separate thing to them. You know, a pre roll joins are.
Speaker 1: So that's why you're seeing such a heavily buy Like,
Speaker 1: think how many donuts we buy, Like, we never used
Speaker 1: to buy pre rolls unless we were broke, because back
Speaker 1: in the day it was shake. Now it's become their
Speaker 1: good donuts. You can buy hemp ones. They're actually you know,
Speaker 1: good trim or I mean good buds, not trim. Sorry, well,
Speaker 1: because you know what I'm saying, That's why I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say, you can still get those two dollars pre
Speaker 1: rows and those four dollars pre rolls and you know
Speaker 1: what you're buying. They can say, no.
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's mostly bud. It's not that that's
Speaker 1: trip so that's well, it's probably half and half. They're
Speaker 1: probably taking little buds and stuff. But it's not the
Speaker 1: top shelf shit that you want. So but but at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's my whole point. You're
Speaker 1: kind of getting what you pay for in that sense
Speaker 1: when it comes to like the cheap, cheap pre rolls.
Speaker 1: But this isn't just talking cheap prios. I just want
Speaker 1: to make that point that that does make sense why
Speaker 1: you're seeing an increase because you're seeing increase now with
Speaker 1: infused joints and all these unique smoking methods that who
Speaker 1: the hell can smoke across joint at home? A lot
Speaker 1: of people can't smoke roll or roll joint. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: roll across right? How many people can roll a good donut?
Speaker 1: Some people can roll okay donuts, but that.
Speaker 2: Takes you need you need someone there to help you
Speaker 2: light the cross joint. You know, you know, yeah it's funny, but.
Speaker 1: I'm just good reference. But I'm just making the point
Speaker 1: of like that it's becoming more of like, well you're
Speaker 1: roll getting these rolled up things. Sometimes it's because you
Speaker 1: can't roll them, not just any joint any well.
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, think about what is it always be
Speaker 2: rolling a b are? Is that? What dope life? Is that?
Speaker 2: That group that's like rolling all those pearl donuts. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like when you when you see that, like it's now
Speaker 2: it's starting to become like a like a very good craft.
Speaker 2: So people are buying those, And that's a really good
Speaker 2: point because like I love those joints when they're pearled perfect,
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, damn, I'll even smoke that because I
Speaker 2: know they're putting some quality bud in that too. If
Speaker 2: there's some quality bud with some quality hash all day,
Speaker 2: even quality bud, no quality hash, I'll still smoke it.
Speaker 2: It's rolled like a pearl. Other than that, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think I got anything else groovy.
Speaker 1: Oh that was my last little bit. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you wanted to shout out the partners one more time
Speaker 1: saying must love shot.
Speaker 2: Let me give a shout out too. Can it be extracts?
Speaker 2: Can ship old score game Nicks? I got high nine
Speaker 2: right here and it's above me as well.
Speaker 1: I like that, and also it's probably my favorite so far.
Speaker 1: I haven't got through all of them yet, but I
Speaker 1: like the half of half.
Speaker 2: The half and a half is delicious. And then also
Speaker 2: shouts to cannabis workers resource. Without all you, we wouldn't
Speaker 2: be able to continue pushing out some quality content and
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Speaker 1: Us some love. Groovy music. Two e's know why everywhere
Speaker 1: Canada of everywhere, probably shadow band on some stuff my
Speaker 1: Cannon cast shadow band for sure. Probably, But you know,
Speaker 1: we're still at here, We're still awesome, still network, and
Speaker 1: we're still growing. Can't hold us back just because you
Speaker 1: hate an internet. But that's pretty much all we got
Speaker 1: to check us out. We're gonna keep doing some stuff.
Speaker 1: We got some episodes. Like Dave said, I don't think
Speaker 1: we're waking and bacon. No, we are awaking making this week.
Speaker 1: We are waking and baking this week, but the following
Speaker 1: week we are not.
Speaker 2: It'd be two saturdays in a row. But I'm gonna
Speaker 2: see if somehow I can do it.
Speaker 1: We're just not. I'm just not gonna count on it
Speaker 1: because you're gonna need a foreign land. So this Saturday
Speaker 1: we are waking and baking nine to ten, like we
Speaker 1: do every week, but Canadave is leaving the country, so
Speaker 1: it's adding a lot of layers to We'll try possibly
Speaker 1: if we do. You know, if you're bored and you're like,
Speaker 1: I want to waken bake with us, I would probably
Speaker 1: just check I g more than I would check the Internet,
Speaker 1: because if we do, it might just be from the phones.
Speaker 1: So if you do see us, just checking if you
Speaker 1: wake and bake it on Saturday and you're board and
Speaker 1: you know, because two weeks will be off, but we'll yeah,
Speaker 1: still have episodes with some We got Dirk of Lost Coast.
Speaker 2: We got hot hot Pot, Jenny, hot Pot Jesus, yeah
Speaker 2: that handle.
Speaker 1: I have a check prize one that we got to record,
Speaker 1: so cool. Yep, all right, y'all.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Other than that, I hope to see you all
Speaker 2: this Saturday. Like Groovy said at nine am Eastern, have
Speaker 2: a great rest of your week. And as always Groovy,
Speaker 2: we're here to advocate, educate, and inspire the next time
Speaker 2: yeallace burn up.
Speaker 1: Yeah,