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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Dan Caples Show on a Tuesday afternoon,
Speaker 2: and this is Well Cany Shriff Steve Riams filling in
Speaker 2: on the driver's seat again day two of two, but
Speaker 2: we're going to start out with a special guest with
Speaker 2: us on right away at the top of the show.
Speaker 2: Here we have Representative Gabe Evans from the eighth Congressional
Speaker 2: District out of the mostly Greeley area.
Speaker 3: Rep. Evans, how are you doing this afternoon.
Speaker 4: Always good to be on with you, Shriff.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Hey, I wanted to bring you on
Speaker 2: to talk about the one Big Beautiful Bill you had
Speaker 2: a press conference last week, but I think it would
Speaker 2: be it would be not fair of us to start
Speaker 2: with that with what went on over the weekend in Boulder.
Speaker 2: I know that you don't necessarily represent Boulder, but you
Speaker 2: do represent Colorado and this thing hits close to home
Speaker 2: for all of us, especially for you. I would assume
Speaker 2: as a former law enforcement officer out of the Arvada
Speaker 2: Police Department, what are your thoughts on the goings on
Speaker 2: this weekend in the city of Boulder.
Speaker 4: Well, first and foremost, Sheriff. Of course, our hearts absolutely
Speaker 4: go out to these individuals through the victims of this
Speaker 4: heinous and we'll call it what it is. It's a
Speaker 4: bias motivated anti Semitic terrorist attack. I mean, what else
Speaker 4: do you call somebody fire bombing a peaceful walk of
Speaker 4: the you know, for the Jewish community. So, of course
Speaker 4: our hearts go out to them. But you know, your
Speaker 4: your Sheriff, I was a cop and a soldier for
Speaker 4: twenty two years. We're wired for action. Thoughts and feelings
Speaker 4: aren't enough, and so we have to look at why
Speaker 4: did this happen? How do we make sure this doesn't
Speaker 4: happen again? And then, unfortunately, you know, I think we
Speaker 4: know a big piece of the answer. You know, I
Speaker 4: joined the army right after the September eleventh terrorist attacks.
Speaker 4: We had a nine to eleven commission that looked at
Speaker 4: how do we prevent terrorist attacks from happening in the
Speaker 4: United States Again. One of the big takeaways from the
Speaker 4: nine to eleven commission was that federal, state, and local
Speaker 4: law enforcement need to be able to share information to
Speaker 4: be able to identify and prevent these attacks from occurring.
Speaker 4: And when state and local law enforcement in Colorado cannot
Speaker 4: share information with their federal counterparts because of Colorado's sanctuary
Speaker 4: state laws, we're trying to solve a puzzle with only
Speaker 4: half the pieces here, particularly when you look at this
Speaker 4: guy's history. He'd been planning this attack for a year.
Speaker 4: He tried to buy a gun, which was denied because
Speaker 4: he is an illegal immigrant, over stayed two visas from
Speaker 4: a country with known Jihadis problems at a time of
Speaker 4: heightened anti semitism. The Colorado Bureau of Investigation would have
Speaker 4: seen that denied background check, but they can't do anything
Speaker 4: about it because our governor just signed yet another sanctuary
Speaker 4: state law that finds cops fifty thousand dollars if they
Speaker 4: share that sort of information with Immigration and Customs. So
Speaker 4: we're literally giving sanctuary and safe harbor to terrorists in
Speaker 4: Colorado as a result of the sanctuary state laws, which
Speaker 4: fly in the face of the nine to eleven commission
Speaker 4: that says we've got to be able to share information
Speaker 4: back and forth to solve to solve the puzzle and
Speaker 4: be able to identify people like this before they go
Speaker 4: firebomb a peaceful Jewish walk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I won't go through the play in the
Speaker 2: whole audio, but one of your colleagues, Congressman Jason Crowe,
Speaker 2: actually made the tried to make the pivot to blame
Speaker 2: this issue on Donald Trump not having done anything in
Speaker 2: the last six months since he's been in office. It's
Speaker 2: just a disgusting take. I mean, quite frankly, you hit
Speaker 2: the nail on the head. You know, we have laws
Speaker 2: in the state of Colorado that make it nearly impossible
Speaker 2: for local law enforcement, including CBI, to work with ice.
Speaker 2: And so when this thing happens where the guy goes
Speaker 2: and tries to buy a gun, really the penalty is
Speaker 2: he didn't get he didn't get the gun, which is
Speaker 2: you know, that's good the law worked. But you know
Speaker 2: there was no action taken from that point to reaffirm
Speaker 2: exactly what you said. You know, yesterday we had Tom
Speaker 2: Homan on a great interview with him, and I know
Speaker 2: you respect the heck out of the work he's doing.
Speaker 2: He was talking about some of the things they're going
Speaker 2: to bring into the state of Colorado. They're going to
Speaker 2: flood the zone, in his words, get more ICE agents here.
Speaker 2: And I want to use that to kind of pivot
Speaker 2: to the event we had last week was which is
Speaker 2: a press conference you called at the Colorado State Capitol
Speaker 2: to better explain to the media what the One Big
Speaker 2: Beautiful Bill does and doesn't do. And while I questioned
Speaker 2: your sanity of having that event at the state Capitol,
Speaker 2: I was happy to join you and I'll just let
Speaker 2: you have the mic and kind of explain to the
Speaker 2: listeners why you chose to do that event at the
Speaker 2: Colorado State Capitol and kind of what you see are
Speaker 2: the strengths of the One Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, and that's a great segue, you know,
Speaker 4: just addressing one thing that you brought up. Let's look
Speaker 4: at the last four years under the Biden administration. We
Speaker 4: know because this was information that the ICE released. You
Speaker 4: get six hundred and sixty seven thousand individuals illegally present
Speaker 4: in the United States with known criminal records. This isn't
Speaker 4: illegally present. This is illegally present with known criminal records.
Speaker 4: You've got thirteen thousand individuals illegally present in the United
Speaker 4: states under the Biden administration with homicide convictions, and so
Speaker 4: for anyone to say that this is the fault of
Speaker 4: the administration, the current administration, the current administration has been
Speaker 4: in power for around four months. You can't go solve
Speaker 4: a problem of the magnitude that the Biden administration left
Speaker 4: us with hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants with criminal
Speaker 4: convictions in the community. You can't solve that in four months.
Speaker 4: Which is why we need this big beautiful bill. Because
Speaker 4: this big beautiful bill does a lot of different things.
Speaker 4: It adds tens of billions of dollars of funding to
Speaker 4: border security so that we don't continue to have this
Speaker 4: influx of people into the country, which includes you know,
Speaker 4: terrorists and cartel members and known criminals. So we get
Speaker 4: the border secured. We have the resources to actually be
Speaker 4: able to recruit and retain quality law enforcement personnel in
Speaker 4: CBP and in ICE, which is you know, you're a sheriff,
Speaker 4: you know the struggle to recruit and retain and good folks.
Speaker 4: So at the federal level, we're making sure that we
Speaker 4: have those resources to take care of our people. And
Speaker 4: by just being able to realign and refocus federal law
Speaker 4: enforcement and all of the federal architecture that's designed to
Speaker 4: protect our country both at the borders and in our communities.
Speaker 4: The resources to be able to do that, to get
Speaker 4: six hundred and sixty seven thousand folks with criminal convictions
Speaker 4: out of our country, those resources are in the big,
Speaker 4: Big Beautiful Bill. Other things that are in the Big
Speaker 4: Beautiful Bill no tax on tips, no tax on overtime.
Speaker 4: There is a deduction in the bill. One of the
Speaker 4: rules with reconciliation is you can't do anything that says
Speaker 4: social Security in it. That's one of the Senate rules.
Speaker 4: They kick it back. So we couldn't do a no
Speaker 4: tax on Social Security because that would have been kicked
Speaker 4: out by the rules of the Senate. So we had
Speaker 4: to do a deduction for seniors. But the deduction for
Speaker 4: seniors is such that the average senior who makes seventy
Speaker 4: five thousand dollars a year or less will have no
Speaker 4: Social Security tax liability. With this additional deduction, we're making
Speaker 4: sure that the tax rate on small businesses doesn't go up.
Speaker 4: That helps the economy, that helps jobs. We're actually increasing
Speaker 4: the child the child tax credit for working families with kids.
Speaker 4: Right now, it's at two thousand dollars. We're raising it
Speaker 4: to twenty five hundred dollars. That puts more money back
Speaker 4: into the pockets of working families. We're increasing the standard deduction.
Speaker 4: So if you're a millionaire, you tend to itemize your
Speaker 4: tax returns to go find all of the different you know,
Speaker 4: all the different ways to lower your taxes. If you're
Speaker 4: if you're like me, I took the standard deduction like
Speaker 4: last year. You know, you know, working class folks tend
Speaker 4: to take the standard deduction. So we're raising the standard deduction,
Speaker 4: which puts more money back into the pockets of the
Speaker 4: bottom eighty about eighty five percent away journer. So you'll
Speaker 4: hear folks say, oh, this is tax breaks for billionaire.
Speaker 3: False.
Speaker 4: We're not doing anything with the billionaire tax rate. What
Speaker 4: we are doing is lowering the tax liability for the
Speaker 4: bottom eighty five percent of folks. We're lowering the tax
Speaker 4: liability for working families. We're lowering the tax liability for seniors,
Speaker 4: for people that work jobs where you get paid over time,
Speaker 4: for people that are working in a tipped industry. All
Speaker 4: of those things put money back in pockets of everyday
Speaker 4: hard working Americans. It lowers the cost of living. It
Speaker 4: gets you more money when you're working your job. And
Speaker 4: then we already talked the public safety piece of it,
Speaker 4: which unfortunately Colorado is now the second most dangerous state
Speaker 4: in the country. Being able to have that public safety
Speaker 4: resources just is crucial to try to prevent things like
Speaker 4: what happened in Boulder from happening again, despite the state
Speaker 4: turning a blind eye to the public safety crisis that
Speaker 4: the Democrats have created.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you hit a lot of good points,
Speaker 2: and you would think that the public, even on the left,
Speaker 2: would say, well, this is man, this is going to
Speaker 2: be good for America. It's going to be good pocketbook.
Speaker 2: But there's some audio I want to play just so
Speaker 2: the listeners get an idea, get an idea of exactly
Speaker 2: what you were dealing with down there. Actually, Congressman Evans,
Speaker 2: would you mind holding through a break so that we
Speaker 2: can play that audio so the listeners get a chance
Speaker 2: to hear that hear exactly what we went through while
Speaker 2: you were trying to explain the good aspects of this bill.
Speaker 2: Just a quick break and then we'll come back to that. Sure, okay,
Speaker 2: So we'll cut to a break. When we come back,
Speaker 2: we'll play a little bit of audio so the listeners
Speaker 2: get a true flavor for what we were dealing with
Speaker 2: down at the state Capitol. Again, we've got Representative Gabe
Speaker 2: Evans on from the eighth Congressional District talking to us
Speaker 2: about the one Big Beautiful Bill. We'll cut to a break.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back in just a few minutes. You're
Speaker 2: listening to the Dan Capless Show with Well Kenny Sheriff
Speaker 2: Steve Reims in the driver's seat.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 6: So the question from Marshall was like a teacher repeating
Speaker 6: the question for all the class to hear. Republican Congressman
Speaker 6: Gabe Evans needed to listen closely and talk loud enough
Speaker 6: to overcome protesters who showed up at his news conference
Speaker 6: about the one Big Beautiful bill that passed the House
Speaker 6: last week. Congressman, how many of the two hundred and
Speaker 6: fourteen thousand on Medicaid in your districts are cheats that
Speaker 6: need to be kicked off? After repeating my question for
Speaker 6: all to hear, here's what Evan said.
Speaker 7: We went through the answer.
Speaker 8: Marshal, you've got illegal immigrants, You've got people who are
Speaker 8: ineligible for the program. Those are the ones who will
Speaker 8: be removed from the program. And then we have four
Speaker 8: point eight million people across the country able body, working
Speaker 8: age adults with no dependence who have the ability to
Speaker 8: choose to go to your work or school.
Speaker 3: Or volunteer part time.
Speaker 8: In order to keep their Medicaid benefits.
Speaker 6: I'm looking for a number in your districts who are
Speaker 6: in those category.
Speaker 8: People who are no longer eligible for Medicaid?
Speaker 6: Do you not know the number? That sounds again, I'm
Speaker 6: telling you the number right now.
Speaker 5: You may not like the answer, but that's the answer.
Speaker 9: Next question.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Dan Kapla Show with Well Kenny
Speaker 2: Sheriff Steve Reims and as the guest host. And that
Speaker 2: audio is not from our studio audience. That is actually
Speaker 2: from a clip from nine News when they covered the
Speaker 2: event that Congressman Gabe Evans hosted down at the State Capitol.
Speaker 2: And I wanted to play that for the for the
Speaker 2: listeners and for Gabe Evans also not to give him PTSD,
Speaker 2: but as a reminder about just how welcoming everyone was
Speaker 2: down at the State Capitol. So Representative Evans, I know
Speaker 2: that that particular question was drawing a lot of a
Speaker 2: lot of heat because it was about Medicaid, Medicare and
Speaker 2: what was going to be done in the big the
Speaker 2: one big beautiful bill to kind of reform and restructure
Speaker 2: the way some of those those handouts are given. And
Speaker 2: I think it's only fair that you get to explain
Speaker 2: how the bill actually works without people screaming at you
Speaker 2: while you do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really appreciate that. And you know, the I
Speaker 4: asked the question back, which of course didn't get aired
Speaker 4: by our good reporter friend there, which was how many
Speaker 4: illegal immigrants he thought should be on taxpayer funded healthcare?
Speaker 4: And now he didn't answer my question either with that answer.
Speaker 4: So here's what the big beautiful bill does in the
Speaker 4: Medicaid space. If you are a somebody with medical complexities, disabilities,
Speaker 4: you're pregnant, you're a kid, guess what you're the person
Speaker 4: that Medicaid was designed to serve. And unfortunately, right now
Speaker 4: your benefits are getting stolen by illegal immigrants, of which
Speaker 4: they are estimated to be one point four million on
Speaker 4: the program ineligible people because the Biden administration paid people
Speaker 4: to stay home and then gave them taxpayer funded healthcare
Speaker 4: and prohibited states from even being able to go and
Speaker 4: check and see who is no longer eligible for the program.
Speaker 4: And then, like we talked about, you've got able bodied,
Speaker 4: working aged adults with no dependents who are choosing not
Speaker 4: to work, go to school, or volunteer part time in
Speaker 4: order to receive taxpayer funded healthcare. The illegal immigrants, the
Speaker 4: people who are eligible, and the able bodied, working aged
Speaker 4: adults with no dependents who want work, volunteer, go to
Speaker 4: school part time. Those are who the bill is aimed at.
Speaker 4: If you are somebody who relies on it because you
Speaker 4: have disabilities, you have cancer, you have an expensive condition,
Speaker 4: you're dealing with substance abuse, you're a kid, anything like that,
Speaker 4: we're not touching your benefits. We are making sure that
Speaker 4: more resources go to you and don't get siphoned off
Speaker 4: by those other three categories that we talked about. As
Speaker 4: for why we chose to do it down at the
Speaker 4: state capitol, well, medicaid is a partnership between the federal government,
Speaker 4: which writes a big part of the check, and the state,
Speaker 4: which actually implements the program. And so when we pass
Speaker 4: this big, beautiful bill and put it on the President's desk,
Speaker 4: we held our press conference down at the state Capitol,
Speaker 4: because the state is then going to have to react
Speaker 4: and choose. Are they going to continue to ensure illegal immigrants,
Speaker 4: are they continuing to take taxpayer money and give it
Speaker 4: to people who aren't even legally present in the United States,
Speaker 4: or are they going to change? And so we wanted
Speaker 4: to carry the fight to the Democrats and also highlight
Speaker 4: that Democrats truly are fear mongering in this issue.
Speaker 7: You heard the audio.
Speaker 4: They have zero interest in the dialogue. They just want
Speaker 4: to yell, not listen to the facts. And so those
Speaker 4: are the two reasons we did it down at the
Speaker 4: state Capitol. Take the fight to the heart of Denver
Speaker 4: where a lot of these lunatic policies are coming from,
Speaker 4: and also show that the left has no interest in
Speaker 4: dialogue in this point. They literally just wanted to yell
Speaker 4: at me for an hour.
Speaker 2: Well they accomplished the yelling. And as someone who took
Speaker 2: part in that event, and I appreciate you, I say
Speaker 2: that I really do appreciate you inviting myself and Representative
Speaker 2: Carlos barn and Senator Byron Pelton down to speak about
Speaker 2: aspects of the bill. You know, it's always it's always
Speaker 2: maddening to me when you hear about this, this group
Speaker 2: that wants to coexist, they want to lean in and
Speaker 2: listen to conversations. And then you get down there and
Speaker 2: you no sooner took the stage and this group just
Speaker 2: started shouting at you and chanting and screaming and singing
Speaker 2: these hypocritical songs over the top of everything. But despite that,
Speaker 2: you remain professional. I think everybody remained professional, you know,
Speaker 2: kept giving their right answers to explain how this bill worked.
Speaker 2: But that's what you're running into everywhere you go. I
Speaker 2: would assume where you're in mixed company. Am I stating
Speaker 2: that incorrectly?
Speaker 9: Well, like we.
Speaker 4: Said, there's folks in our community, the vast majority of
Speaker 4: Americans want to have a dialogue. The vast majority of
Speaker 4: Americans are reasonable, common sense people who want to see
Speaker 4: their taxpayer dollars used wisely and for the federal government
Speaker 4: to be good stewards of that money. And so for
Speaker 4: those folks, I'm always willing to have that dialogue, in
Speaker 4: that conversation talk about what this bill does. But unfortunately
Speaker 4: you've got a very loud minority of people, which we
Speaker 4: experienced last week, but again are doubling down on the
Speaker 4: fear mongering. They don't want to have a conversation, They
Speaker 4: don't want to have any dialogue about the potential issues.
Speaker 4: They just want to yell. And so, you know, being
Speaker 4: able to have forms like this to actually be able
Speaker 4: to get the truth out about what the bill does,
Speaker 4: how the bill protects those people who needs it by
Speaker 4: cutting out the fraud, waste and abuse. And again, I
Speaker 4: can't make this more clear.
Speaker 7: If you are.
Speaker 4: Disabled, if you have medical complexity, if you've got expensive medications,
Speaker 4: guess what, this doesn't apply to you. In fact, we're
Speaker 4: doubling down on making sure that more resources go to
Speaker 4: you by cutting out the fraud, waste and abuse in
Speaker 4: other parts of the system.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you and a Congresswoman Bobert did a
Speaker 2: great job of explaining, Hey, you wanted to get rid
Speaker 2: of fraud, waste, and abuse. We're doing that so that
Speaker 2: more money can go to the people who deserve it.
Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, you know, if we expect
Speaker 2: you to do a little bit of work to get
Speaker 2: some of these benefits, oh my gosh, I mean, especially
Speaker 2: if you're an able bodied person who can have a
Speaker 2: job and just refuse to do so. You know, those
Speaker 2: aren't the people that should be on the government's dime.
Speaker 2: And you've both said that very well.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's because it's the truth of the bill.
Speaker 4: It really is a common sense bill when you look
Speaker 4: at the facts of what it does around border security,
Speaker 4: around getting criminals and terrorists out of our community, and
Speaker 4: around cutting taxes for the working class, around protecting tipped workers,
Speaker 4: overtime workers, seniors, and then again cutting the fraud, waste
Speaker 4: and abuse out of Medicaid so that it's there. And
Speaker 4: I guess my closing thought to you would be, we're
Speaker 4: not even cutting Medicaid. Anyone who says that we're cutting
Speaker 4: Medicaid clearly hasn't looked at the bill, because under the
Speaker 4: Republican plan, Medicaid spending will still increase every single year.
Speaker 4: Medicaid is going to grow twenty five percent under this plan,
Speaker 4: it's just going to grow more efficiently because we're getting
Speaker 4: rid of the fraud, wasted abuse, We're getting rid of
Speaker 4: the one point four million illegal immigrants, the one point
Speaker 4: two million people who are not even eligible for the program,
Speaker 4: but the Biden admin paid them to stay home and
Speaker 4: get free taxpayer funded healthcare. And we're asking four point
Speaker 4: eight million people, Like we said, this is their choice.
Speaker 4: This number could be zero, but the official estimate is
Speaker 4: four point eight million able bodied, working aged adults with
Speaker 4: dependents are going to choose their choice. They're going to
Speaker 4: choose not to work, volunteer, or go to school part time.
Speaker 4: Part time being defined as eighty hours a month. I
Speaker 4: don't know about you, Sheriff, but you know every job
Speaker 4: I've ever had, I've had to work to get my health.
Speaker 2: Care, absolutely and sometimes eighty hours a week. We just
Speaker 2: have a few seconds left. What's the How does this
Speaker 2: thing get through the Senate? Will it happened quickly? We
Speaker 2: got about ten seconds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in the Senate right now. We're aiming to
Speaker 4: get it on the President's desk by the fourth of July.
Speaker 2: Perfect, And you know, best of luck to you. Appreciate
Speaker 2: you coming on the show, and you know, I know
Speaker 2: you're going through heck sometimes but keeping the fight. And again,
Speaker 2: thanks for being on the show. You're listening to Dan
Speaker 2: Caplis with well Kendy Sheriff Steve Riams setting in as
Speaker 2: a guest host.
Speaker 5: You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Dan Caplis show with Well County
Speaker 2: Sheriff Steve Riams setting in here today covering for Dan
Speaker 2: as he's off doing important court work or trial work,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. But just want to
Speaker 2: say thank you to Congressman Gabe Evans for coming on
Speaker 2: and staying on with us a little longer than I
Speaker 2: think he expected. And we do have a few callers
Speaker 2: that popped up, and for those of you that haven't
Speaker 2: called in yet, the number here is three oh three
Speaker 2: seven one, three eight two five five. I love to
Speaker 2: have conversations with you, and you can also text in
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Speaker 2: Dan so that I know it's coming to me, and
Speaker 2: we'll try to make sure we read all those or
Speaker 2: interact with all those as they come in. We'll get
Speaker 2: to one here real quick because it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2: It's from our good listener, Alexa. She says a Brocler
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Speaker 2: close to accurate, but it'd be entertaining for at least
Speaker 2: a show or two. So let's go to Rusty from Denver.
Speaker 2: He's got some questions about benefits from the one big
Speaker 2: beautiful bill, and I'll do my best to try to
Speaker 2: interact with that, rusty.
Speaker 3: What do you got for us?
Speaker 9: Okay?
Speaker 3: Sure with you, Yeah, you bet.
Speaker 7: I wasn't clear about something that Congressman Evans said, Okay,
Speaker 7: And my understanding of what he said is if the
Speaker 7: bill were to pass, there's going to be a cut
Speaker 7: in medicare given to the states of medicare grants. I
Speaker 7: guess they're called to the states, and that's going to
Speaker 7: be based on the number of illegals that they estimate
Speaker 7: are currently drawing benefits. In other words, that that amount
Speaker 7: will be reduced to the states, and then it would
Speaker 7: be up to the states to decide how whatever is
Speaker 7: left is allocated. Is that correct? Do you get that
Speaker 7: out of what he said?
Speaker 2: I think you're kind of on point there from what
Speaker 2: I understand. Yes, they're going to allocate the funds based
Speaker 2: on those who are actually eligible to receive them. So
Speaker 2: the argument is that there are potentially illegals that are
Speaker 2: are receiving those those funds right now. And even though
Speaker 2: even though it's partially matched from this ate, the lion's
Speaker 2: share of it comes from from the fed, so they're saying, hey,
Speaker 2: we're not going to give you money for these people
Speaker 2: who shouldn't be on the system. So if the state
Speaker 2: doesn't clean it up, yeah, you could see a cut
Speaker 2: here in the state of Colorado in the way I
Speaker 2: understand it. Again, I'm no Congressman. I have stated a
Speaker 2: motel six a couple of times when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: but that's about as far as I get.
Speaker 7: So if Colorado wanted to continue to provide some benefits
Speaker 7: to illegals, they could, but there wouldn't be as punch
Speaker 7: to go around as there is now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would doing it.
Speaker 2: They'd be doing that at the detriment of regular citizens,
Speaker 2: as I understand it. And Congressman, I'm sorry. Congresswoman Lauren
Speaker 2: Bowood will be on in the second hour and we
Speaker 2: can specifically try to get down to that with her
Speaker 2: as well to try to get a better understanding. I've
Speaker 2: been I've been reading through the bill and it's like
Speaker 2: a thousand pages long, So trying to get to all
Speaker 2: the details of that and memorize it is a challenge for.
Speaker 8: For anybody for doing that.
Speaker 7: So we don't have to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I don't suffer from insomnia, one of them.
Speaker 3: When I'm reading.
Speaker 7: Through that, my concern is that the Colorado voters are
Speaker 7: so flueless or I don't know if they're plulass, but
Speaker 7: they're just left that they'll continue to want to fund
Speaker 7: people who shouldn't get it according.
Speaker 9: To my values.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on that. I'm afraid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm afraid that the priorities will be given as they
Speaker 2: have been. You know, we'll continue to honor these sanctuary
Speaker 2: laws that Governor Pulis says we don't have, and it'll negatively,
Speaker 2: it could negatively impact some people who really need those benefits.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I think the I think the administration is trying to
Speaker 2: draw hardline in the sand, and uh, this bill's not done.
Speaker 2: It's got to go through the Senate and kind of
Speaker 2: make its way back. But yeah, I think there's some
Speaker 2: potential there. If if fraud, waste, and abuse aren't rooted
Speaker 2: out at the state level, then yeah, it could be
Speaker 2: it could be troublesome for few folks.
Speaker 7: Okay, well, thank you, thanks for the conversation, you.
Speaker 2: Bet Russy, thanks for calling in, and again if you'd
Speaker 2: like to call in and then discuss our conversation with
Speaker 2: Congressman Gabe Evans. He's not still with us to answer
Speaker 2: these questions himself, but you can call in it three
Speaker 2: h three seven one three eight two five five or
Speaker 2: text ind A five seven seven three nine start your
Speaker 2: text with Dan so again I can pick it up
Speaker 2: here and make sure I know which ones I'm reading.
Speaker 2: And we have another caller on the line. We have
Speaker 2: Dean from RVEDA. Dean, what do you have for Uskay?
Speaker 7: Sure, Hey, I have a question about the rost over
Speaker 7: and Boulder.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Now, I have a couple of talk show guys today
Speaker 7: got home longmore he qualified to go to Gitmo.
Speaker 2: Well, I you know, I think that's uh. I think
Speaker 2: the all things are on the table at this point.
Speaker 2: Right now, I believe he's been transferred from what I
Speaker 2: heard to An to the ice facility where he's being held.
Speaker 3: That now, that may be inaccurate.
Speaker 2: He may still be in Boulder County, but regardless, I
Speaker 2: think once he sentenced, he could very easily end up
Speaker 2: in Gitmo or super Max or wherever. But up until
Speaker 2: the time that he stands trial, depending on which route
Speaker 2: they go, whether they're going to try him in the
Speaker 2: in the state system or in the federal system. I
Speaker 2: mean that's kind of what decides it right now. But
Speaker 2: I think the Feds are going to take the top
Speaker 2: line here. And I would thoroughly understand if Gitmo's on
Speaker 2: the table, Yes.
Speaker 7: Aren't they the terrors to hit nine to eleven? Then
Speaker 7: they just still they didn't have it?
Speaker 9: They did they?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they went to Getmo for well, the majority of
Speaker 2: the ones that were you know, the helpers and the planners.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah they they Yeah, the ones that weren't
Speaker 2: on the plane.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah.
Speaker 2: I think a bunch of those folks ended up in Gitmo,
Speaker 2: and may some of them may still be there to
Speaker 2: this day because there's there's some concerns about whether or
Speaker 2: not they can be prosecuted accurately and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: whether they they have to fall under the same federal
Speaker 2: system as everyone else.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean, would be nice if you can get a
Speaker 7: Davy waterboarding exercise to well, you know, I don't have
Speaker 7: any heart for guys like that. I mean, I'm pretty
Speaker 7: ruthless when I start thinking about errors like that, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, and the guy like uh Jason Crowe, the
Speaker 7: big counts come back and that polus Uh, I mean
Speaker 7: the stuff that they're letting happen, is UH, and they
Speaker 7: all know we're not a Saintuary's sake. I cannot wait
Speaker 7: till Trump just comes in with the bag. Amory said,
Speaker 7: guess what, we're cutting all your federal funding, becasing baras.
Speaker 7: SAME's great safe. I don't care if it hurts uh.
Speaker 7: You know worse when he cuts funds. His Democrats got
Speaker 7: to figure out and you start voting the right way.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I agree with you in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways. You know, the previous color that was on
Speaker 2: here was making that point to your to your you
Speaker 2: know exactly that for medicaid. A lot of people don't
Speaker 2: know this. A lot of people don't know this, but
Speaker 2: almost every jail in the state to Colorado gets what
Speaker 2: we call scap funds, UH. And those are funds that
Speaker 2: are given to UH to to jails for holding illegals
Speaker 2: so that they can be processed by ice. And if
Speaker 2: you think about that, in this state, that's an absolute
Speaker 2: waste of funds because we've passed a law that says, well,
Speaker 2: you can't hold them past their date of release. So
Speaker 2: we're really not we're not fulfilling our end of that
Speaker 2: of that contract with the Feds, but they've still been
Speaker 2: sending that money for for a decade or at least
Speaker 2: over a decade. And Denver, the Denver, the Denver County
Speaker 2: Jail gets the lion's share of those uh. And we
Speaker 2: know that they don't play ball, right, So yeah, it's
Speaker 2: going to be interesting when those federal funds dry up.
Speaker 2: And I think that's a that's an absolute thing that
Speaker 2: can happen.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, the mirror's finding out how bad he had
Speaker 7: sty They are so far in the red, there's I
Speaker 7: don't see how they can.
Speaker 3: Be like that guy.
Speaker 5: Well, there's a cost good, there's.
Speaker 2: A cost to being a sanctuary city, and he's feeling
Speaker 2: it right now, and you know, and his employees are too.
Speaker 2: You know, they're going to go through through these budget
Speaker 2: cuts all to say, hey, we took care of the
Speaker 2: illegals that we're here.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's insanity. So I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, appreciate the.
Speaker 2: Phone call, Dean. We're going to cut the break. We
Speaker 2: got a couple of guys waiting to talk with us
Speaker 2: when we come back. Stay through the stay through the
Speaker 2: break here, and we'll get to you. In that last
Speaker 2: segment you're listening to the Dankaplas Show here on six
Speaker 2: thirty k HOW with Weld County Shriff Steve Riams as
Speaker 2: your guest host.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the dan Capla Show with Weld County
Speaker 2: Shaff Steve Riams setting in as the guest host today.
Speaker 2: And let's just get right back to the calls. Since
Speaker 2: you guys are loading up the lines. We've got Doug
Speaker 2: and Frederick. You got some questions on the cuts in
Speaker 2: the One Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 9: How you doing, Triff? I goodn't talk to you again. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it was good to hear at Gabe Evans. I voted
Speaker 9: for him. I get my part in the neighborhood here
Speaker 9: Farim and I live up hearing Frederick in there. And
Speaker 9: Lauren Bopart used to be my congress woman when I
Speaker 9: years ago when I lived done Junction Soresent. Yeah, and
Speaker 9: so you have Lauren coming up, and I hope gave
Speaker 9: Perhaps Congressman Evans is listening. I agree with everything Congressman
Speaker 9: Evans said. And we've got to get these freeloaders off
Speaker 9: the system, and we've got to get illegals off the system.
Speaker 9: They have no business there, but I don't. I want
Speaker 9: to bring one thing up and if sure, if you could,
Speaker 9: I would, I would do anything for you to do
Speaker 9: this to bring us up to Lauren bow Part when
Speaker 9: you talk to her. No one's even very few people
Speaker 9: have heard the try West debacle. Uh with with military healthcare. Uh,
Speaker 9: this is so important to try West, to try care
Speaker 9: and the contract. Everything is overloaded, the systems totally. Why
Speaker 9: Biden did this out the door, I don't know U.
Speaker 9: Lauren Baupar Evans and others. The congressman down in the Springs,
Speaker 9: I forget his name right now. Another. Yes, they're all.
Speaker 9: They've all talked about this. I talked to their offices.
Speaker 9: But I'm gonna nowhere. She's getting over she has a
Speaker 9: son nine years old with the nerve disease and she
Speaker 9: can't get coverage right now. The people that deserve coverage
Speaker 9: more than any of us aren't getting coverage.
Speaker 5: And this is unbelievable to me.
Speaker 3: And this is benefits. This is yeah, just for clarification, Yes, sir.
Speaker 9: For he's a he's a he's a masters starts at
Speaker 9: the army right now. My nephew, my my niece's a
Speaker 9: husband and they're having a really hard time. He was
Speaker 9: gonna go in another five years. They're gonna get out because
Speaker 9: they're so tired of it, and my niece can't sleep
Speaker 9: at night. I don't know why people aren't aware this
Speaker 9: and why nothing's being done by good people. I gave
Speaker 9: Evans and Lawn Beaupark because they are good people, and
Speaker 9: I don't understand it. So to try Westbacle going into
Speaker 9: try Care. If you could bring that up, I would
Speaker 9: appreciate it there so much.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, we'll bring it up on the air, and
Speaker 2: you know, if nothing else I can tell you that
Speaker 2: I'll text both of them and uh, you know, if
Speaker 2: there's a way we can connect, maybe off the air,
Speaker 2: if you can leave your phone number for Kelly or
Speaker 2: or somebody, then I can hopefully connect the two of you,
Speaker 2: because you know, if we're going to have a show,
Speaker 2: we might as well figure out a way to make
Speaker 2: those connections from from time to time if we can.
Speaker 2: But Doug, thanks for calling in. If you will hold
Speaker 2: on the line, and yeah, just hold on the line
Speaker 2: and leave your number with with Kelly and I'll make
Speaker 2: sure that we get you connected to the Congress congressman
Speaker 2: or woman, whichever is more helpful to you. But I'll
Speaker 2: try to bring that question up on the show as well.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in. You know, I think as we
Speaker 2: talk about the one big, Beautiful Bill, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of questions because it's a thousand page bill, and I mean,
Speaker 2: this thing is it's a beast.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many of the listeners out there
Speaker 2: have pulled it up. But you get on Google and
Speaker 2: do a pretty simple search and you can scroll for.
Speaker 3: Days going through this thing. It is.
Speaker 2: It is somewhat helpful that it has like a you know,
Speaker 2: a little bit of a hint sheet, if you will,
Speaker 2: that tells you you know where to go or how
Speaker 2: far down to page necessarily to look for specific items
Speaker 2: that you're interested in. You know, the area that I'm
Speaker 2: most concerned with is obviously the border border security. You know,
Speaker 2: how's that going to affect ice and border patrol. And
Speaker 2: there's plenty of funds set aside for that. You go
Speaker 2: into the Department of Defense and you see I mean
Speaker 2: gigantic numbers going into that area. So I think those
Speaker 2: are things that you can support. But there's some questions
Speaker 2: that I think, uh, as this thing goes to the Senate,
Speaker 2: are are going to have to get addressed. You know,
Speaker 2: it does raise the debt ceiling, and that's that's concerning
Speaker 2: for a lot of people, because well, you know, we're
Speaker 2: already pretty far upside down as a nation, and how
Speaker 2: much farther can we go? And I don't know where
Speaker 2: the Senate's going to come out on this thing, but
Speaker 2: we do know that we have to get our border
Speaker 2: and our our nation secure, and that that's the Department
Speaker 2: of Defense, that's Border Patrol, that's ICE and so those
Speaker 2: those funds have to happen as we go into the
Speaker 2: next hour. Though, I kind of want to prime the
Speaker 2: pump a little bit because yesterday we talked a lot about,
Speaker 2: you know, the event that happened in Boulder. We had
Speaker 2: borders are Tom homan on kind of talking about some
Speaker 2: of the efforts that we can predict here in Colorado.
Speaker 2: So we're going to see ten thousand agents funded through
Speaker 2: this one big, beautiful bill and hopeful that many of
Speaker 2: them will be making a visit to Denver and Colorado
Speaker 2: in the coming months. I also helped to try to
Speaker 2: secure a facility up in Welld County, a vacated prison
Speaker 2: just outside of Hudson with fourteen hundred beds, and I
Speaker 2: think ICE is in the process of figuring out how
Speaker 2: to stand that prison back up and use it as
Speaker 2: a detention facility. So all those things combined, I think
Speaker 2: we can expect that in twenty twenty six, potentially we're
Speaker 2: going to see We're going to see ICE make Colorado
Speaker 2: its home for the foreseeable future until they can get
Speaker 2: some movement here. Do you think that's the right thing?
Speaker 2: As a listener, do you think that's the right direction
Speaker 2: for the FEDS to go is to focus on these
Speaker 2: sanctuary states and you try to start cleaning up the
Speaker 2: act even when our local elected officials aren't cooperative, or
Speaker 2: would you rather see your funds go somewhere else. That
Speaker 2: being said, the second question is when we're talking about
Speaker 2: this Mohammed Solomon that fire bombed all the peaceful demonstrators
Speaker 2: down on Pearl Street, you have to ask yourself, this
Speaker 2: guy's been here since twenty twenty two. The only meaningful
Speaker 2: job it sounds like he had was maybe as an
Speaker 2: uber driver or a lyft driver. How did he support
Speaker 2: a family of five? How was he paying rent? You know,
Speaker 2: how are they getting along because I don't know about
Speaker 2: you guys, but it's pretty expensive to live in Colorado.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're paying for a whole bunch of free
Speaker 2: stuff for people who don't want to work. Maybe this guy,
Speaker 2: he'd found the glitch in the system, was getting all
Speaker 2: the free handouts. But the concept of this guy being
Speaker 2: in our country illegally, potentially not working for any longer
Speaker 2: than the last six months, raising a family of five
Speaker 2: along with a wife, waiting for his daughter to finish
Speaker 2: high school before he went out and enacted this terror
Speaker 2: act down on Pearl Street, all the while right under
Speaker 2: our noses, while he was still flaunting the laws in
Speaker 2: the in the state of Colorado, attempting to buy a
Speaker 2: gun when he's not a legal resident. You just have
Speaker 2: to ask yourself, how does this happen? How did we
Speaker 2: get this far? And I can tell you that as
Speaker 2: a law enforcement officer, whether it's you're in El Paso
Speaker 2: County or Weld County, these things are infuriating because the
Speaker 2: more you digest, the more you learn about this, the
Speaker 2: sicker it makes you. It's my understanding that the family
Speaker 2: has now been picked up and are potentially in the
Speaker 2: custody of Ice. That's probably good because you know, there
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that there aren't some really ticked off
Speaker 2: people down in El Paso County if they've if they've
Speaker 2: recognized who this family is connected to, with this Mohammed
Speaker 2: Solomon and I don't usually repeat the name of a
Speaker 2: bad person, but in this particular instance, I think people
Speaker 2: need to hear that name over and over so they
Speaker 2: know exactly what we've invited into this country. And it's
Speaker 2: not to it's not to give credit to his reign
Speaker 2: of terror, but it's to give it's to give due
Speaker 2: cause to the administration that allowed this to happen, and
Speaker 2: it's not the one that's currently in office. You know,
Speaker 2: I can't be more encouraging for Ice, for Tom Holman.
Speaker 2: The borders are to send as many people as possible
Speaker 2: to clean the act up here in Colorado, and I
Speaker 2: hope it happens soon. I may have said those same
Speaker 2: comments when I stood with Gave Evans on the State
Speaker 2: Capitol steps. Well, we come back in the next hour.
Speaker 2: We'll have Lauren Bobert at about the midpoint of the hour.
Speaker 2: But when at the first hour of our first few
Speaker 2: minutes of the show, let's talk about how did Mohammed
Speaker 2: Solomon stay here in this state. You listen to The
Speaker 2: Dan Cafleis Show with Well Kenny Sheriff Steve Reims as
Speaker 2: your guest host,