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<v Speaker 1>You're just going to BEBA.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's Bebia, but it's me too.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, no place I'd rather be. Welcome to The Big

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<v Speaker 4>Blue and Sider. Dicadrill with you on a Monday edition

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<v Speaker 4>of our program. Yep, that was otega Oway and Mark Pope.

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<v Speaker 4>As we lead things here on the Monday edition of

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<v Speaker 4>The Big Blue Insider. You start off with Kentucky basketball

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<v Speaker 4>whenever you can, or Kentucky football. It is that time

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<v Speaker 4>of year when talk show hosts and writers are looking

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<v Speaker 4>for things to talk about. No shortage of topics tonight

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<v Speaker 4>because not just of Kentucky football and basketball, a little

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<v Speaker 4>recruiting news coming up as well, College World Series stuff

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<v Speaker 4>the NBA. A former wildcatch shay Gilges Alexander had a

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<v Speaker 4>huge game last night. We're coming off the Belmont Aaron

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<v Speaker 4>Rodgers has signed. He's a Steeler if you care. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there's still stuff to talk about, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But we needed to start off first of all by

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<v Speaker 4>talking about the House settlement. Finally, finally it came through.

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<v Speaker 4>Now colleges have to set about deciding on and dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with the impact on athletics. The California judge Claudia Wilkins

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<v Speaker 4>Friday made the move that has changed the landscape of

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<v Speaker 4>college athletics arguably forever. Well, it's always going to be changing,

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<v Speaker 4>but now the schools have the freedom to pay athletes

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<v Speaker 4>directly a total of two point eight billion in NIL

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<v Speaker 4>back pay dating back to twenty sixteen. There are new

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<v Speaker 4>roster rules, there's a new enforcement arm that will include

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<v Speaker 4>a clearing house for future NIL agreements of six hundred

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<v Speaker 4>dollars or more. Mitch Barnhart releasing a statement over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>You may have seen that, but what this has done

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<v Speaker 4>basically is provide some of the guide rules that college administrators,

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<v Speaker 4>including Barnhart, have been craving. There are all kinds of

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<v Speaker 4>and whispers when this first started that and again I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not trying to carry the guy's water, but I've spoken

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<v Speaker 4>to the man about this kind of thing. Barnhardt was

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<v Speaker 4>accused of dragging his feet, trying to subvert NIL deals,

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<v Speaker 4>trying to keep people from getting what was coming to

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<v Speaker 4>them in the early days. And I've mentioned this before.

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<v Speaker 4>I was on a panel discussion show they threw together

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<v Speaker 4>over at k ET. I'm hundred enough that they asked

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<v Speaker 4>me to come in, not just because I don't live

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<v Speaker 4>too far away, but they've asked me to come. I've

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<v Speaker 4>been around for a little while, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>basically in one situation I deferred to Mitch about the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that getting schools to pull together in the same

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<v Speaker 4>direction is like hurting cats when it comes to the NCAA.

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<v Speaker 4>And when it comes to this sort of thing, you've

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<v Speaker 4>got a hundred plus schools playing D one football, You've

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<v Speaker 4>got three hundred plus schools I believe it is playing

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<v Speaker 4>D one basketball. Everybody has a different mission, So how

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<v Speaker 4>do you get everybody going in the right direction? And

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<v Speaker 4>what he didn't bring up, and I couldn't really get

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<v Speaker 4>into it that much because at the time it wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>as pronounced, but it sure became pronounced leadership from the

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<v Speaker 4>top of the NCAA. Again, the nca is the members institutions.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all the membership, but somebody at the top has

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<v Speaker 4>to organize stuff. And they were getting some of the

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<v Speaker 4>worst leadership at the top in the history of the

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<v Speaker 4>NCAA at the time. Well, now, thanks to what went

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<v Speaker 4>to court, they've all had to pull together and they

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<v Speaker 4>all have to, as Mitch says, navigate these challenges responsibly. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 4>maintaining high standards and support of varsity sports. Right so,

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<v Speaker 4>the College Sports Commission will oversee the process. It will

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<v Speaker 4>facilitate revenue sharing and ensure the name, image and likeness

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<v Speaker 4>deals between student athletes and third parties are fair and

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<v Speaker 4>comply with the rules. Nothing is going to be equal.

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<v Speaker 4>We know this, but they're looking for it to be equitable.

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<v Speaker 4>It's got to be fair the process for everybody. But

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<v Speaker 4>here is what you know, and here is what I know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there are going to be rules in place, and all

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<v Speaker 4>the same people to scream about society going to hell

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<v Speaker 4>in a handcard because there's no respect for law and order.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of a lot of those people turn a

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<v Speaker 4>blind eye or encourage you to turn a blind eye

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<v Speaker 4>to rules governing this that, including the NCAA, And it's

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<v Speaker 4>all these rules are so stupid. Well yeah, some of

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<v Speaker 4>them are. But you know why they're there because the

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<v Speaker 4>rule book was the size it became because so many

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<v Speaker 4>people out there are dreaming up ways to cheat. And

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<v Speaker 4>right now with this new process in place, with the

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<v Speaker 4>CSC in place, with the new basically commissioner in place,

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<v Speaker 4>there are people well right now, I promise you trying

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out ways to cheat, and you know, well,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're not cheating, you're not trying. That's garbage. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's Look. I know you can wink at things that

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<v Speaker 4>happened in a NASCAR race, But if your kid was

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<v Speaker 4>playing on a team, and I hear from parents, I've

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<v Speaker 4>heard from parents my entire career. If your kid was

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<v Speaker 4>playing on a team against the team that routinely beat them,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know they were cheating somehow, yeah, you'd be

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<v Speaker 4>pretty upset about it. And it's happened. And look, you

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<v Speaker 4>know the stuff about well it used to be against

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<v Speaker 4>the rules to put cream cheese on a bagel for kid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of stuff got ridiculous. And I couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 4>that that committee members who put the rules together sat

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<v Speaker 4>in a room and what they did was came up

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<v Speaker 4>at broad rules and then you know, well what about this?

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<v Speaker 4>Could you put peanut butter? Could you've been cheating? You

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<v Speaker 4>know all that kind of stuff. No, I'm amazed that

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<v Speaker 4>got that. That's stupid. But as I learned when I

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<v Speaker 4>worked in the old Southwest Conference for those communications, the

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<v Speaker 4>reason those rules are in those rule books is because

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<v Speaker 4>there were people out there dreaming up new ways to cheat,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't mean putting cream cheese on a bagel. Remember,

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<v Speaker 4>Southwest Conference was the most corrupt conference by the time

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<v Speaker 4>it disbanded in the history of college athletics. SEC wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>too far behind before Mike's Live got there. And I

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<v Speaker 4>just got so sick of hearing that all the rules

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<v Speaker 4>were so hard to follow. No, they're not. And I

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<v Speaker 4>told the story before. David Kwood, Harlan product was the

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<v Speaker 4>number of two or three man at the NCAB by

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<v Speaker 4>the time he retired, came to work with us at

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<v Speaker 4>those communications, and once told me because I complained to

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<v Speaker 4>him one day, I said, Dave Man, that rule book

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<v Speaker 4>is three inches thick. He said, the rules that get

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<v Speaker 4>programs in trouble cover about twelve pages. I'm like balls,

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<v Speaker 4>he said no. I said, what's all that other stuff?

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<v Speaker 4>He said, Oh, it's stuff about transfers and red tape

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<v Speaker 4>and things like that. But he said, the rules that

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<v Speaker 4>get you in trouble cover about twelve pages. And he

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<v Speaker 4>suggested that the NCAA that they pull those twelve pages,

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<v Speaker 4>make a pamphlet out of it. Still give the schools

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<v Speaker 4>the big book, but make pamphlets and say have your

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<v Speaker 4>coaches carry every one of your recruiters should have this

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<v Speaker 4>in their back pocket. And it was a great idea,

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<v Speaker 4>and they turned it down. The NSAY turned it down.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, why, well, because they said, somebody somewhere is

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<v Speaker 4>going to break a rule that's not in the pamphlet.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they'll say, well, you didn't tell us weird

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<v Speaker 4>to worry about that rule, which to me is nonsense.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's just the way that they were thinking at

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<v Speaker 4>the time. So anyhow, I want to see how this

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<v Speaker 4>all shakes out with the House settlement, with the new

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<v Speaker 4>basically commissioner, and the way the money's doled out. But

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<v Speaker 4>I do worry about all these regional institutions because when

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<v Speaker 4>they start shutting down programs, and they will, it's already started,

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<v Speaker 4>that's going to mean opportunities for men and women that

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<v Speaker 4>they might have had to go to a D one

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<v Speaker 4>school now they're not going to have them. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 4>can go D two or three, maybe they go JUCO,

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<v Speaker 4>get partial scholaris or whatever. But some kids just talking

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to afford to go to school. And

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<v Speaker 4>I know, you know, you have a tendency to think,

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<v Speaker 4>or at least too many people in my line of

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<v Speaker 4>work look at college words, odd's just grooming ground for

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<v Speaker 4>the pros. One percent, maybe two percent of the kids

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<v Speaker 4>competing in college athletics top to bottom men and women

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<v Speaker 4>D one to D three two percent go pro. You

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<v Speaker 4>talk about the tail wagon the dog. When these idiots

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<v Speaker 4>think like that, it's just about going to the pros,

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<v Speaker 4>shut up. And I know I'm terribly biased because I

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<v Speaker 4>cover baseball, volleyball, women's sports, and some of the folks

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<v Speaker 4>who helicopter in and cover the college well series of

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<v Speaker 4>the bowl games or whatever, and they look at it

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<v Speaker 4>simply as minor league sports. Totally wrong, totally wrong. Go

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<v Speaker 4>a little deeper and you'll find out all right before

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<v Speaker 4>the break, we'll come back to We'll take all away,

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Pope. This was a clip on the UK Sports

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<v Speaker 4>Network social media accounts, Oh take it Away at one

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<v Speaker 4>of the Mark Pope satellite camps, asking his coach is

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<v Speaker 4>once in future coach now that he's back, to recreate

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<v Speaker 4>the moment that Pope heard that otakea Oway was returning

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<v Speaker 4>to the Wildcats.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want me.

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<v Speaker 4>O good? So, first of all, I was on a plane.

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<v Speaker 3>I was on a plane and I don't understand why

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<v Speaker 3>or how, but the call actually came through.

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<v Speaker 5>And so take a call mean and he said.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm coming back, And I was looking around.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I think the pilot.

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<v Speaker 4>Is about to throw me out the plane right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh, Tega, I gotta call you

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<v Speaker 1>back later. We just hold that on. Fifteen minutes later,

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<v Speaker 1>called him back. He says, come back. Tears were to

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<v Speaker 1>up my face.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, it's a lot because I knew.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 6>One I knew I know how how.

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<v Speaker 3>Excited you are and how much you want to go

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<v Speaker 3>play in that league. I know it's a dream of lifetime.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's super humbling to see you. One understand

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<v Speaker 3>how much you watch it get better, how committed you

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<v Speaker 3>are to keep getting better. And second thing was to

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<v Speaker 3>see how much you understand I appreciate what you have

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<v Speaker 3>right now. That's special stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, Yes, sir, better but hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, And he's been hiped.

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<v Speaker 3>He was super hiped all the way until he heard

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<v Speaker 3>about the conditioning.

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<v Speaker 5>Test on the first day summer workouts.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it was like, whoa coach, Maybe I need

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<v Speaker 3>to go back to this journey West, y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Go see that when there's gonna be times at so

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<v Speaker 4>take it all away along with Mark Pope, Curtis City,

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<v Speaker 4>UK Sports Networking. As he said, you heard it off

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<v Speaker 4>the top. Always said there's no place I would rather

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<v Speaker 4>be and there there's no fan base that is happier

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<v Speaker 4>about that than the Big Boe Nation. We'll come back

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<v Speaker 4>with more of the Big Boon Insider coming up a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit later on in the show. Rick Bose, it's

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<v Speaker 4>from WDRB TV. We'll talk to him about the House settlement.

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<v Speaker 4>And Kobe Wilson from Fox fifty six that's ahead on

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<v Speaker 4>six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 4>Dick Abriel with you coming up a little bit later

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<v Speaker 4>on Rick Bose, it's from Fox fifty six WDRB. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>tell you what surprise today on Twitter. I guess we

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't be when you add up to years. But John

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<v Speaker 4>And it's been a great one at the Herald Leader.

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<v Speaker 4>So congrats to John. Not the only headline out there,

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<v Speaker 4>of course. Quick note on UK basketball recruiting. David Sisk

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<v Speaker 4>sports and that's not directly related to the House settlement,

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<v Speaker 4>the same. Murray State will play for a spot in

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<v Speaker 4>the College World Series tonight down at Duke. Racers destroyed

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<v Speaker 4>in the eighth couple innings away from Omaha, bullpen collapsed,

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<v Speaker 4>not same team, different team, same program that lost to

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<v Speaker 4>Going back to Omaha. UCLA going back for the first

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<v Speaker 4>You know this, Sey Gilgess Alexander is the MVP, and

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<v Speaker 4>he played that way last night. Oklahoma City, which blew

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<v Speaker 4>Indiana early and beat the daylights out of the Pacers.

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<v Speaker 4>So now they head back to Indianapolis. But the series

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<v Speaker 4>is tied. But SGA thirty four points and didn't need

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<v Speaker 4>a million shots to get there. He had thirty eight

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<v Speaker 4>in the lost Thursday, but needed thirty shots to get there,

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<v Speaker 4>but only three assists. But last night, eleven of twenty

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<v Speaker 4>via his driving is dribbling. They all came in the

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<v Speaker 4>paint or from mid range, but then he would fan

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<v Speaker 4>it out. He had seven or eight assists and six

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<v Speaker 4>SGA back at it, and he's the reason that Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 4>City was picked, the biggest reason. But Pacers beat him

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<v Speaker 4>up and ground him down in game one, So we'll

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<v Speaker 4>see if they'll try to do the same in game two.

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<v Speaker 4>In Game three, which happens Wednesday eight thirty start time,

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<v Speaker 4>and if you're interested. Tickets are going for as low

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<v Speaker 4>as six hundred and twenty three dollars. Okaysee is favored

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<v Speaker 4>by five and a half. On Wednesday night. Hope you

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<v Speaker 4>got a chance to see the Belmont Stakes over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Sovereignty wins it over journalism by aza was third, same

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<v Speaker 4>finish in the Kentucky Derby, and once again journalism on

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<v Speaker 4>the lead as they turned for home. Sovereignty was sitting

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<v Speaker 4>right there, sitting chilly as they say, and overcomes journalism

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<v Speaker 4>and wins going away, wins by three lengths. I had

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<v Speaker 4>it simply because my buddy and I talked to Kenny McPeak.

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<v Speaker 4>You might have heard our interview with him on the

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<v Speaker 4>Big Blue Insider, Well Off Mike. He predicted and it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't off the record because Kenny's got his own podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>He picked sovereignty to win the Kentucky Derby on his podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>and he picked sovereignty, and he picked sovereignty to win

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<v Speaker 4>the Bellmont. He told us he would win by four.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when one by three and so now what

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<v Speaker 4>a great rivalry developing between sovereignty and journalism. Clearly the

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<v Speaker 4>best two to three year olds in America and most

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<v Speaker 4>experts said, well, if he wins the Belmont, that stamps

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<v Speaker 4>Sovereignty as the champion three year old. Well they may

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<v Speaker 4>race again later in the fall. But I got to

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about this after the race. Yeah, Sovereignty won two

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<v Speaker 4>of the three legs of the Kentucky Derby. Journalism made

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<v Speaker 4>that great move in the Preakness and came through traffic

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<v Speaker 4>in one and had to head. Yes, Sovereignty has beaten

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<v Speaker 4>Journalism twice. But and as you know, Seignty didn't run

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<v Speaker 4>in the Preakness. But you know, if Sovereignty loses to

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<v Speaker 4>Journalism later this year, you could make the great case

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<v Speaker 4>for Journalism simply because he was the only horse to

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<v Speaker 4>finish first or second. So if he wins over Sovereignty

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<v Speaker 4>sometime in the fall, I'll bang a drum for journalism,

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<v Speaker 4>not just because that's been my profession through the years,

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<v Speaker 4>but you could make that argument. It would be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>It would have to take ahead to head win, but

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<v Speaker 4>it would make for really a great debate among those

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<v Speaker 4>that became official over the weekend. Adam Schefter of ESPN

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<v Speaker 4>stories were out there swirling, but the Steelers evidently, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think what Shifter's good at is kind of throwing

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<v Speaker 4>puts Schefter report, well, sometimes other people have reported. At

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<v Speaker 4>first anyhow Matthew Stafford was out there and the Steelers

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<v Speaker 4>So the former Packer led my team to five conference

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<v Speaker 4>championship games but only one Super Bowl is now going

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<v Speaker 4>them in with Rick Bosic on six thirty WLAP Welcome

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<v Speaker 4>back to the Big Bluinsider joining us on our celebrity Hotlines,

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<v Speaker 4>A longtime friend of the show. He is Rick Bosich,

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<v Speaker 4>anchor reporter for Fox forty one WDRB in Louisville, and

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<v Speaker 4>so much to talk about right now. Believe it, it's June, Rick,

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<v Speaker 4>which used to be kind of a dead zone in sports.

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<v Speaker 4>But first of all, this house settlement has shaken college

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<v Speaker 4>athletics to its core. We know it was coming, but

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<v Speaker 4>How do you think it's going to impact right away?

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't think any of us really have any idea,

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<v Speaker 5>We've heard all the stories that at different schools where

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of programs you covered on in Western Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 4>could have been avoided. That's the sad part. This could

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<v Speaker 4>have all been avoided. I don't know what it could

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<v Speaker 4>have been.

419
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<v Speaker 5>Avoided if college administrators hadn't clung to the right you

420
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<v Speaker 5>know sham for as many years as they did. Yeah,

421
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<v Speaker 5>and that's you know, you mentioned this in the beginning,

422
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<v Speaker 5>and you're so right. At the speed with which we've

423
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<v Speaker 5>gone from the previous system to the current system been numbing.

424
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<v Speaker 5>Nobody can really understand it when you hear some of

425
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<v Speaker 5>the numbers about things that you know, players are getting

426
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<v Speaker 5>two million dollars, three million dollar basketball players one hundred thousand,

427
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.920
<v Speaker 5>two hundred thousand dollars college baseball players. So you know,

428
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:02.920
<v Speaker 5>a million dollar softball player got Tennessee Texas Tech to

429
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<v Speaker 5>the College World Series. They lost, but that's right, nobody,

430
00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:07.480
<v Speaker 5>they would have no chance of getting there, but they

431
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<v Speaker 5>decided to spend some of their Nile money in the

432
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<v Speaker 5>college softball pitcher, and now we're talking about her, and

433
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<v Speaker 5>it worked.

434
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:16.759
<v Speaker 4>They got to the World Series Championship game.

435
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<v Speaker 5>Yep, you're right, yeah, talking to Rick.

436
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<v Speaker 4>Bozych of WDRBWDRB dot Com has covered Kentucky sports for many,

437
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:29.039
<v Speaker 4>many years, earlier for the Career Journal and now for

438
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<v Speaker 4>Channel forty one Fox WDRB over in Louisville. Just to

439
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.920
<v Speaker 4>your point about administrators, I really I did see m

440
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<v Speaker 4>Newton's radio show for years in the summertime, and I

441
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<v Speaker 4>really enjoyed CM and respected him a lot, but disagreed

442
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<v Speaker 4>with him on a lot of things. And one of

443
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<v Speaker 4>them was when we were talking about this very thing

444
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<v Speaker 4>about athletes and compensation, and I said, coach, you got

445
00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:55.599
<v Speaker 4>all these Tim Couch jerseys hanging in bookstores going off

446
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<v Speaker 4>the racks, and Tim's not getting anything. And oh no, no,

447
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:02.119
<v Speaker 4>they bought the those jerseys because they were UK jerseys.

448
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna come on, man, you know, you had too

449
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:08.799
<v Speaker 4>many old school administrators like that who kind of held

450
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<v Speaker 4>things back. He was so great for the game on

451
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<v Speaker 4>the one hand, but held things back on the other.

452
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<v Speaker 5>You know. Yeah, And it wasn't just him, it was everybody.

453
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<v Speaker 5>That's the system they grew up with, and that's the

454
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<v Speaker 5>system they wanted to maintain and the one part of

455
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<v Speaker 5>it though that still sometimes gets to me though, and

456
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:32.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure you can relate to this, which that the

457
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<v Speaker 5>value of an education has been totally pushed aside or

458
00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:40.759
<v Speaker 5>discounted in all this, and it is valuable. I mean,

459
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<v Speaker 5>for those of us who put kids into college and

460
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<v Speaker 5>watch them go for four years and graduate, we know

461
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:50.079
<v Speaker 5>that that's a significant amount of money and for them

462
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<v Speaker 5>for so many people to act like that's irrelevances that

463
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:58.319
<v Speaker 5>bothers me. Man, It drives me crazy because how many

464
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<v Speaker 5>of these guys are going to be professional athlete And

465
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<v Speaker 5>I worry about guys who There are a lot of

466
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:08.960
<v Speaker 5>guys now who this year will be in their fourth

467
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<v Speaker 5>college and I want somebody to sit down and tell

468
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<v Speaker 5>me how the transferring of credits work so when they're

469
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:17.920
<v Speaker 5>done with their four years, they're in a good spot

470
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<v Speaker 5>to get their degree, because the guys who are transferring

471
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<v Speaker 5>them many times usually aren't going to be the guys

472
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<v Speaker 5>who are pros because they didn't have success at their

473
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 5>previous job and how they set themselves up for the

474
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.279
<v Speaker 5>rest of their lives. But that's the conversation, which is

475
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:32.200
<v Speaker 5>at the you know, not at the top of the

476
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<v Speaker 5>priority list for the stuff we're talking about now.

477
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<v Speaker 4>It's not even on the list. That's what bothers me.

478
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<v Speaker 5>I know, it's not the list. You're right. I didn't

479
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:43.559
<v Speaker 5>want to be that strong, but I mean, it's we

480
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:46.680
<v Speaker 5>never talk about education anymore. All we talk about is

481
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:48.960
<v Speaker 5>money and sports and the games. We don't ever talk

482
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<v Speaker 5>about the educational part of it.

483
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, you know, and you and me and our

484
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:57.119
<v Speaker 4>other media brethren, we talk about this and that with

485
00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:00.359
<v Speaker 4>the coaches at the highest level at uku L. But

486
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<v Speaker 4>I know when you talk to people at Bellermant at

487
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Western Kentucky, if I talk to people at EKAU at

488
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:09.519
<v Speaker 4>Murray State Transylvania, they do talk about it, you know,

489
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:12.119
<v Speaker 4>because I think that they should. Yes, and they're more

490
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<v Speaker 4>held account.

491
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.200
<v Speaker 5>That's what their recruiting advantage is. I know that Scottie

492
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.119
<v Speaker 5>Davenport and Doug Davenport development. One of the things they

493
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 5>talk to their players about it is they have a

494
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 5>good business school and if you come here and in

495
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:24.160
<v Speaker 5>the business school, we'll get you an internship in the

496
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:26.640
<v Speaker 5>summer that oftentimes lead to a good job there. You

497
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 5>go and that's that's that's kind of the old school

498
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:31.960
<v Speaker 5>way of looking at it. I find it refreshing. I

499
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 5>might be a dinosaur or whatever, but I think it's

500
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 5>in the long run. Nobody wants to look at twenty,

501
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, fifteen, twenty, thirty years from now, what's your

502
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.160
<v Speaker 5>career going to be, what are your connections in the

503
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:44.160
<v Speaker 5>community going to be? They just want to talk about

504
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 5>how much money am I going to make in the

505
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:49.799
<v Speaker 5>next six months or night. Yes, and very rarely is

506
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:54.240
<v Speaker 5>it life changing money. It's momentarily life changing money, but

507
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:57.279
<v Speaker 5>it's not life changing money for your entire life. Oh.

508
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<v Speaker 4>In former UK quarterback Freddie Maggard worked at UK. He

509
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 4>created a program called four for forty, which meant the

510
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.279
<v Speaker 4>decision you make about the next four years of your

511
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.519
<v Speaker 4>life will directly impact the next forty years of your life.

512
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<v Speaker 4>And they had speakers come in and talk about everything

513
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:17.680
<v Speaker 4>you just mentioned, Rick about the future, about how let's

514
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<v Speaker 4>face it, you're probably not going pro even if you do,

515
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 4>how do you handle your money, how do you handle

516
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 4>your life? And there it just isn't enough of that

517
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 4>going around, at least it doesn't appear to be. Right now,

518
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:33.079
<v Speaker 4>we're talking to Rick Bosch from Fox forty one WDRB

519
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.799
<v Speaker 4>and Louisville Back in a minute on six thirty WLAP

520
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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back, We're talking with Rick Bosch. He is a

521
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<v Speaker 4>sports reporter and anchor for Fox forty one WDRB over

522
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:46.640
<v Speaker 4>in Louisville and has been covering a lot of college baseball.

523
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:49.319
<v Speaker 4>Of like, there were people throwing dirt on the UL

524
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:54.039
<v Speaker 4>baseball program. Rick the dam McDonald's got him back in Omaha.

525
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:56.519
<v Speaker 4>That had to be a fun weekend, I would think.

526
00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was a great weekend. Patterson Stadium siccessand fans

527
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 5>there for every game. Miami says, one of the traditional

528
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.200
<v Speaker 5>powers in the game. The games were other than the

529
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:08.640
<v Speaker 5>first game. They were close and the Cards, who really,

530
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:11.000
<v Speaker 5>they're not in the top twenty five when the tournament started.

531
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<v Speaker 5>After beating Vandy is the number one overall seed the

532
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 5>previous weekend in Nashville. Came home and got it out

533
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.000
<v Speaker 5>of three, two victory yesterday, and they're going to Omaha

534
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:23.400
<v Speaker 5>where they're playing Oregon State. So you know, I look

535
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:26.319
<v Speaker 5>at Dan McDonald's. He's not a coach, he's a difference maker.

536
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:29.160
<v Speaker 5>He's been here since two thousand and seven. Yeah, and

537
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.559
<v Speaker 5>this is a little sixth trip to Omaha. In the

538
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:34.920
<v Speaker 5>first twenty years I lived here. If you Tony Louisville

539
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.680
<v Speaker 5>was going to Omaha, I went to last There's no

540
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:39.440
<v Speaker 5>reason for them to go Omaha. This is not a

541
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:44.319
<v Speaker 5>baseball They don't have baseball weather, it didn't have baseball tradition.

542
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.359
<v Speaker 5>And he turned it into a program that not only

543
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.000
<v Speaker 5>you know goes to Omaha. They produced MLB guys. They

544
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.759
<v Speaker 5>got six their six former louisll players in Major League

545
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 5>Baseball right now.

546
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:56.759
<v Speaker 4>And it's not just you know, whatever conference they're in,

547
00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.440
<v Speaker 4>You've still got to win a regional and a super

548
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:02.599
<v Speaker 4>regional to get to Home Maw. And we learned this

549
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.240
<v Speaker 4>last and a few years with Kentucky. That's the key.

550
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 4>If you can host a super you got such a

551
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:09.000
<v Speaker 4>good shot.

552
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:11.960
<v Speaker 5>And they did it this year, no doubt about it.

553
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:14.880
<v Speaker 5>And you know this is the year they weren't supposed

554
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 5>to do it. They've stumbled a little bit down the stretch.

555
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.039
<v Speaker 5>They lost the home game to Bellerman in May and

556
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.359
<v Speaker 5>people were grumbling. They were on Dann McDonald's back. He

557
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.240
<v Speaker 5>lost his mojo and they hadn't made the tournament the

558
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.559
<v Speaker 5>two previous years. And I'm happy for him because he

559
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 5>forced himself into the program. And they got a lot

560
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:35.359
<v Speaker 5>of Kentucky kids on the team. At the end of

561
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.759
<v Speaker 5>the game yesterday, to the pitchers that pitched, one was

562
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:42.160
<v Speaker 5>from Trinity and one was from Paduca Tillman, so they've

563
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.839
<v Speaker 5>got some. And their number one starter from Bowling Green,

564
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:50.599
<v Speaker 5>Patrick Forbes, so they've they've Kentucky baseball in general, high

565
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:55.000
<v Speaker 5>school baseball in general has really gotten stronger over the

566
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:58.400
<v Speaker 5>last ten or fifteen years. And the commitment made not

567
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:02.319
<v Speaker 5>only by lit and Kentucky to baseball, but Western which

568
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:04.559
<v Speaker 5>had a good team in made the regional and Murray State,

569
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 5>which could shock the world today beat Duke in the

570
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:08.359
<v Speaker 5>College World Series.

571
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:09.079
<v Speaker 4>That would be cool.

572
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 5>UHKU, two teams in Omaha.

573
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.160
<v Speaker 4>How about that? You know, I gotta admit that, dude,

574
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.440
<v Speaker 4>I called the Kentucky Louisville game over here in Lexington,

575
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 4>and Kentucky blew them out seven run or seven inning

576
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:24.720
<v Speaker 4>run rule. I thought, what is wrong with Louisville, especially

577
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:27.599
<v Speaker 4>the bullpen, which has always been a strength, but just

578
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:29.480
<v Speaker 4>a bad night. Got to throw out that bad race.

579
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<v Speaker 4>A few minutes left with Rick Bosices, let us talk

580
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:35.000
<v Speaker 4>quickly about uh UK football. You get over here. I

581
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 4>see you hauling cameras and tripods like a good TV

582
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:39.839
<v Speaker 4>guy does. Back in the day, when you were a

583
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 4>newspaper guy, you just had to haul a notebook and

584
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:45.400
<v Speaker 4>maybe a computer. Uh. But that's the price of fame.

585
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 3>I know that.

586
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 5>But this I'm old Hall of Typewriter Dick.

587
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.160
<v Speaker 4>That's true me too, That's how I got started. Uh.

588
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.799
<v Speaker 4>But a pivotal year for Mark Stoops. That's that's the

589
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.200
<v Speaker 4>word around here. And as I've talked all summer and

590
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.920
<v Speaker 4>we'll keep talking about it, he's a victim of his

591
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:06.240
<v Speaker 4>own success. Isn't He raised the ceiling and raised the floor.

592
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.000
<v Speaker 4>And how the pressure's on, isn't it?

593
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:08.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

594
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<v Speaker 3>It is.

595
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 5>And I saw they're projected by Vegas to win five

596
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:13.079
<v Speaker 5>and a half games, and I'm not sure that'll get

597
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.680
<v Speaker 5>it done from whether it gets five or six. You know,

598
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 5>once you get people accustomed to winning eight, nine, ten

599
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:19.880
<v Speaker 5>and going to bowl games and having success and have

600
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.319
<v Speaker 5>exciting teams, when that kind of goes away, people start

601
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:27.839
<v Speaker 5>grumbling about it. And it's a success oriented world. And

602
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:29.960
<v Speaker 5>he's making a lot more money now than he made

603
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.279
<v Speaker 5>when he first started, and people expect more when your

604
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:35.720
<v Speaker 5>salary goes up, and you know, South Carolina's kind of

605
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:39.759
<v Speaker 5>bounced back. Missouri's gotten better, Vanderbilt's gotten better, his job

606
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:43.000
<v Speaker 5>has become tougher. So Mark Stuts is a fighter though.

607
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<v Speaker 5>The one thing he beat the ass when he first

608
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.920
<v Speaker 5>began to think. So we'll find out how motivated he

609
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:49.640
<v Speaker 5>is and how much some of the changes he's made

610
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:50.680
<v Speaker 5>within his staff will pay off.

611
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<v Speaker 4>I know you don't come over for you come over

612
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.240
<v Speaker 4>for games, not for the weekly press conferences. But they're

613
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 4>up online. I'm sure you take a peek at him

614
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Speaker 4>and his tone of late. I think trying to read

615
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:08.400
<v Speaker 4>between the lines has been and I'm inferring that some

616
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:11.559
<v Speaker 4>of the people he brought in didn't fit his way

617
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 4>of doing things, him and his staff, and he believes

618
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.880
<v Speaker 4>this group now it's back to that blue collar ethic.

619
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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. Could it be that simple?

620
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Speaker 5>It's only that simple if your entire team buies into it. Yeah,

621
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<v Speaker 5>you know, I mean last year they had some guys

622
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:29.760
<v Speaker 5>who were really supposed to be really good players who

623
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:33.159
<v Speaker 5>I thought kind of underperformed and talking about you know,

624
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:36.239
<v Speaker 5>Dean Walker on the defensive line and a couple of

625
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.480
<v Speaker 5>other guys and they can't have that. I mean, the

626
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<v Speaker 5>SEC is an unforgiving lead league, and your guy's got

627
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<v Speaker 5>to perform at the top level every week. And I

628
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 5>hope that's the case. If he's been preaching it since

629
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<v Speaker 5>the end of the last season, I think it'll be

630
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:54.159
<v Speaker 5>the case. But you know, all the other teams are

631
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.719
<v Speaker 5>are trying hard too, and they're spending money, and they're

632
00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:00.199
<v Speaker 5>ambitious and they don't want to fall behind. So it's

633
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.039
<v Speaker 5>not going to be easy to reclaim her spont in

634
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 5>the SEC, especially now.

635
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 4>With Texas and Oklahoma involved, and with Missouri looking like

636
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.679
<v Speaker 4>a real program. Finally again, it was several years ago

637
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.840
<v Speaker 4>South Carolina you mentioned, and now Kentucky second game of

638
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.920
<v Speaker 4>the year's old miss and Lane Kiffin's got it going

639
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:20.840
<v Speaker 4>down there. So uh, there was a period where teams

640
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 4>were backing up in the SEC, including Florida, which still

641
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 4>is struggling a bit for Florida standards, but not anymore

642
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.159
<v Speaker 4>right top to bottom, no.

643
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:35.760
<v Speaker 5>Doubt about it. You know, like I said, Vanderbilt, they

644
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:39.599
<v Speaker 5>be Kentucky two in a row. Billy Billy what's his name,

645
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:44.400
<v Speaker 5>the guy from Florida. He's fighting for his job down there. Man.

646
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 5>He had a really good freshman quarterback last year, I mean,

647
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 5>and then after all those years it was a five

648
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.960
<v Speaker 5>or six in a row, Kentucky had beating Louisville in football.

649
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:58.000
<v Speaker 5>That was the game that I think really uh intensified

650
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.639
<v Speaker 5>the narrative around coach Stops is that bron came in

651
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:04.119
<v Speaker 5>there and beat Kentucky decisively and beat them with two

652
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 5>running backs. I mean, they had two guys run for

653
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.559
<v Speaker 5>one hundred yards of that game. And Kentucky had always

654
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:10.639
<v Speaker 5>been the team with the better, more powerful running game,

655
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:12.360
<v Speaker 5>and then a little kind of out muscled them. So

656
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.000
<v Speaker 5>you don't that's the thing about the game. That's the

657
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.079
<v Speaker 5>last game of the year when you led you when

658
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 5>you have a dud like that, that's the last memory

659
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 5>that people walk out of the stadium with and and

660
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:23.360
<v Speaker 5>they're not happy. So they need to get off to

661
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 5>a good start. And as you mentioned early some SEC games,

662
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:28.719
<v Speaker 5>it's going to have to shock a few people.

663
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just a couple of minutes Leven rig Bos that

664
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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned U of L And I think Kentucky fans

665
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.840
<v Speaker 4>over have realized that the days that you could put

666
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:41.000
<v Speaker 4>w by that and there were only a few years

667
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.920
<v Speaker 4>over that that the brom family basically has made its

668
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:48.599
<v Speaker 4>market U of l. That's going to be back to

669
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:52.079
<v Speaker 4>a really fascinating rivalry, I think, don't you think?

670
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:56.679
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, because you know Jeff grew up in the state.

671
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:01.480
<v Speaker 5>He had offered from Kentucky. I don't he left before

672
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:04.199
<v Speaker 5>the series started, but he coached under Petrino when the

673
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 5>series was Uh, pretty chart between the two schools. Uh,

674
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 5>he knows how much it means. Uh, and he has

675
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.079
<v Speaker 5>he now recruits against them, He now competes against them.

676
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:18.960
<v Speaker 5>And uh he got beat at home. Uh his first

677
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 5>season here when Louisville was a ten win team, didn't

678
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.880
<v Speaker 5>like it and came back and one last year. And

679
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:27.519
<v Speaker 5>it's a big game for him too. He'll he'll that

680
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:31.000
<v Speaker 5>Louisville will remain competitive in that game. But the struggles

681
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:35.320
<v Speaker 5>they had understood Satterfield, even though he said the right things,

682
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 5>I never thought he grasps how important the game was. Really, No,

683
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 5>I didn't. He said the right things, but you know,

684
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.400
<v Speaker 5>I don't think he really grasped everything that Louisville had

685
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 5>to go through to even get that series started and

686
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:51.039
<v Speaker 5>how much this meant. Remember the first four games I

687
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 5>played and they didn't want to. They didn't want to play.

688
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:57.159
<v Speaker 5>And you know there's a lot of you know, legitimate

689
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 5>competitive fuel between the two schools, and I never really

690
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.000
<v Speaker 5>that's a satterfield grass now.

691
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:04.320
<v Speaker 4>And you got to give Stellenberger credit for agreeing to

692
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 4>play those first four and lexi and but it worked

693
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.760
<v Speaker 4>because it move the U of L backers off their

694
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.679
<v Speaker 4>butts and they got the money get together for the

695
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.760
<v Speaker 4>football stadium over there. That's exactly the way Howard get

696
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 4>envisioned it. And he and Curry you wanted people to

697
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:22.119
<v Speaker 4>stop talking about basketball recruiting in the summertime and talk

698
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 4>about foot correct and it worked.

699
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:24.880
<v Speaker 5>Can I say one more thing?

700
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

701
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.079
<v Speaker 5>I want to say congrats to John Klay. Yeah, you

702
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:32.079
<v Speaker 5>know today he's retiring as a hair Leader columnist. John's

703
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:35.559
<v Speaker 5>not only a great newspaper man, but he's a better person.

704
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:37.800
<v Speaker 5>He's one of my best friends. It's been an honor

705
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 5>and my privilege to travel with him through the years.

706
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:43.320
<v Speaker 5>We've gone to all kinds of games and events together

707
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:47.519
<v Speaker 5>and covered a lot of horse races together. And we're

708
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:50.559
<v Speaker 5>such a wild pair that we go out to dinner

709
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:51.880
<v Speaker 5>and then after we go out to dinner and we

710
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 5>go to the Barnes and Noble for books, Matt John,

711
00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:58.760
<v Speaker 5>are we still going to be able to go to

712
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.920
<v Speaker 5>Barnes and Noble together? Pographic like done it for a

713
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:04.159
<v Speaker 5>long time and did it the right.

714
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Then Bose it's w dr B.

715
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:07.880
<v Speaker 5>Thank you sir, all right, thank you, Dick.

716
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:09.800
<v Speaker 4>I re number two is next here on six thirty

717
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<v Speaker 4>w l A P.

718
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:52.400
<v Speaker 7>The thing can anything to attack that snack thinking, don't.

719
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:06.519
<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to the big Lewinsider. And earlier I mentioned

720
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:08.880
<v Speaker 4>Aaron Rodgers that was a big story over the weekend.

721
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:11.840
<v Speaker 4>He is a Steeler and in my thoughts immediately go

722
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:15.159
<v Speaker 4>to my friends who are Steelers fans. Keith Farmer of

723
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:17.599
<v Speaker 4>l e X eighteen and one and only Jay drum

724
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:20.960
<v Speaker 4>Jeff Drummond from Cats Illustrated part of the Rivals Network.

725
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:25.440
<v Speaker 4>He is that rare combination of Reds fan and Pittsburgh fan,

726
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 4>but it is Steelers, not Pirates, Jay Drumm, Are you

727
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:31.079
<v Speaker 4>happy about this?

728
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:38.400
<v Speaker 6>I would say I have mixed feelings about this. I

729
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:42.079
<v Speaker 6>have no idea how it will turn out, but if

730
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:46.280
<v Speaker 6>nothing else, I think the team will be interesting with

731
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:49.880
<v Speaker 6>Rogers at quarterback. I think that there's still a lot

732
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:55.239
<v Speaker 6>of you know that the arm still looks really good.

733
00:41:56.199 --> 00:42:01.000
<v Speaker 6>My big concern is ahead and you know how things

734
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:07.119
<v Speaker 6>will go with our offensive coordinator ur and uh just

735
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.280
<v Speaker 6>kind of how he'll deal with some of the the

736
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:11.880
<v Speaker 6>personalities in Pittsforton.

737
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:14.960
<v Speaker 4>You went out, though, and you've got a big time

738
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.039
<v Speaker 4>and physically imposing wide receiver. The question when Rogers went

739
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:22.360
<v Speaker 4>to the Jets was who's he going to throw to? Yes,

740
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:26.480
<v Speaker 4>pretty good receivers in Green Bay, including DeVante Adams, but

741
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:29.239
<v Speaker 4>you went out and got DK Metcalf. That's got to

742
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:30.280
<v Speaker 4>count for something, right.

743
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:34.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I would think so. I think that was a

744
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:38.679
<v Speaker 6>big factor in him deciding to give it a shot

745
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.239
<v Speaker 6>with the Steelers. If they didn't have DK, I don't

746
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:44.639
<v Speaker 6>think they would have worked out, you know, a deal,

747
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:48.039
<v Speaker 6>and who may have even decided to retire the way

748
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:52.239
<v Speaker 6>things is going. But you've got one of the top

749
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:55.880
<v Speaker 6>big receivers in the entire league and a guy that,

750
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:00.159
<v Speaker 6>you know, a major downfield threat that Rogers hasn't had

751
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:00.639
<v Speaker 6>in a while.

752
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 4>We've talked before about and I always like to talk

753
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:07.079
<v Speaker 4>about the genesis of people who root for this team

754
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:08.400
<v Speaker 4>or that. A lot of people ask me why I

755
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.320
<v Speaker 4>route for the Packers things like that, and it's not

756
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.119
<v Speaker 4>that you grew up in Pittsburgh or that I grew

757
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:16.480
<v Speaker 4>up in Wisconsin. Everybody has their reasons. And you became

758
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:19.039
<v Speaker 4>a Steelers fan back when they were the best thing

759
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.880
<v Speaker 4>going in the NFL. And one of the strongest ties

760
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:28.239
<v Speaker 4>to that era, Terry Bradshaw blasted the Steelers or even

761
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:31.800
<v Speaker 4>thinking about signing Aaron Rodgers. What do you think about

762
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:32.920
<v Speaker 4>that as a Steelers fan.

763
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:38.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was a little surprised that Terry was so

764
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:45.480
<v Speaker 6>strong with his criticism there, but you know, he's got opinions.

765
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 6>And if anybody is it titled the one if the

766
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:55.079
<v Speaker 6>guy who's lived there can't about it, the ups and

767
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.239
<v Speaker 6>downs about what Steeler football is all about.

768
00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:59.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one more Steelers question and we'll get to the

769
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:03.760
<v Speaker 4>why cats Mike Tomlin. I don't know if he's the

770
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:07.000
<v Speaker 4>best coach in the NFL, but if he left the

771
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:11.079
<v Speaker 4>Steelers tomorrow, almost every team would have to think about

772
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:15.719
<v Speaker 4>dropping whoever they've got and hiring him. What do you

773
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 4>think of the mix now Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers.

774
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:25.039
<v Speaker 6>Well, there's you know, their potential there. I know they've

775
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 6>both really admired each other for a long time. They

776
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.880
<v Speaker 6>anytime the Attackers and Steelers have played, you can kind

777
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:36.679
<v Speaker 6>of see the admiration and respect and even some gamesmanship

778
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.679
<v Speaker 6>that goes on the wink and a smile out there

779
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:42.800
<v Speaker 6>on the field. So hopefully this is the guy that

780
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:46.599
<v Speaker 6>can kind of get Mike Tomlin back over the hump

781
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 6>in terms of, you know, having a chance in the playoffs.

782
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 6>It's been a while since the Steelers have been able

783
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:57.960
<v Speaker 6>to win a playoff game and that's kind of been

784
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:01.639
<v Speaker 6>the bugaboo they all they always have winning through them,

785
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 6>which is incredible. Yeah, that record he's got, saying his

786
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:09.960
<v Speaker 6>entire career, but in Pittsburgh, it's all about what you

787
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:13.880
<v Speaker 6>do in the postseason. So that's that's why they'll be measure.

788
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.559
<v Speaker 4>By talking to Jeff Drummond of Cats Illustrated, part of

789
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:19.519
<v Speaker 4>the Rivals Network and on the website cats Illustrated dot

790
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.639
<v Speaker 4>Com is a piece written or at least moderated by

791
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:27.239
<v Speaker 4>Jay drum a c I round table asking does Mark

792
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 4>Stoops face the most important opener of his career? And Jeff,

793
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 4>with that giving away the story, we want people to

794
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:38.639
<v Speaker 4>uh to subscribe obviously, but tell me what went into that,

795
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:41.000
<v Speaker 4>who was part of it, and what was it like?

796
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:42.400
<v Speaker 4>What was that roundtable like?

797
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we're starting to gear up for you know, our

798
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:52.480
<v Speaker 6>our football coverage with uh you know, camp will just

799
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.920
<v Speaker 6>be right around the corner once you hit June. That's

800
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:59.519
<v Speaker 6>he'll be honest, before we know it. But you got

801
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 6>to think about what what some of the big questions

802
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.119
<v Speaker 6>would be going into this season. I thought this would

803
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:08.719
<v Speaker 6>be interesting because typically your your first game as an

804
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:13.400
<v Speaker 6>afterthought in a lot of this ways, and you're supposed

805
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:15.960
<v Speaker 6>to win that game no matter you know who it

806
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 6>is in most seasons. But I think there's a little

807
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:24.719
<v Speaker 6>bit of of, you know, extra weight to this one,

808
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:29.320
<v Speaker 6>not only in the fact that Toledo is a really good,

809
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:35.400
<v Speaker 6>solid MAC program capable of coming into Mexican and winning

810
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:40.039
<v Speaker 6>that game, but I think the Cats have to look

811
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 6>good in that one too to kind of get the

812
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:46.599
<v Speaker 6>fan base, you know, back motivating for the rest of

813
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:49.760
<v Speaker 6>the season because right now, I don't know about the

814
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:53.199
<v Speaker 6>people that you have to in general, but it's it's

815
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:56.400
<v Speaker 6>ominous with everybody I talked about Kentucky football. It's just

816
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:01.679
<v Speaker 6>the optimism is that it's low point since probably you know,

817
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 6>going into that year four with with Mark Steps, when

818
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.000
<v Speaker 6>a lot of people thought that Kentucky might need to

819
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:14.400
<v Speaker 6>start another coaching search, and you know, with what they

820
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.639
<v Speaker 6>wound up with though after that was I think eight

821
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.199
<v Speaker 6>consecutive trips to the postseason.

822
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:22.239
<v Speaker 5>With that one.

823
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.800
<v Speaker 6>It's it chrudged. Me is a little odd that things

824
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:31.480
<v Speaker 6>have turned so quickly and and far, you know, as

825
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.760
<v Speaker 6>far as the public opinion of Mark Stoops goes. But

826
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:39.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, last year obviously a bad season. I don't

827
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:45.599
<v Speaker 6>think the two years before you would consider bad, but

828
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:47.960
<v Speaker 6>there was definitely the start of a little bit of

829
00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:51.960
<v Speaker 6>a downward trend. And when you combine that with the

830
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:59.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, the infamous Tony Up comment and the Texas

831
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.800
<v Speaker 6>A and M situation, I think that's just a lot

832
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:05.880
<v Speaker 6>of people have kind of made up their mind that

833
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:07.119
<v Speaker 6>this is the end of the road.

834
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:11.599
<v Speaker 5>And you know, I don't necessarily think that's the case,

835
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:14.320
<v Speaker 5>but it's going to be hard.

836
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:15.039
<v Speaker 6>To win people back.

837
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree. Well, I think there are a couple

838
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 4>of issues at play, and you mentioned the Pony Up comment,

839
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.840
<v Speaker 4>which kind of ironically enough, that was sort of a

840
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:31.719
<v Speaker 4>raw expression that is echoed by all the different and

841
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:37.280
<v Speaker 4>slicker and kinder urgings by UK and really every university

842
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:41.119
<v Speaker 4>out there to please consider relating to our collective and

843
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 4>be a part of You know, that's the same way

844
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 4>as saying pony up. But to hear the head coach

845
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:49.880
<v Speaker 4>on his radio show really bluntly, that was a raw

846
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:53.400
<v Speaker 4>emotional moment and it has followed him. You're right about that,

847
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:56.960
<v Speaker 4>But I think there are two factors in play. Jay Drummers.

848
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:59.639
<v Speaker 4>We talked to Jeff Drummon of cat Illustrated. Tell me

849
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 4>which you think first of all, Yeah, years gone by

850
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:06.280
<v Speaker 4>a lull like this, people would be grumbling and a happy,

851
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.000
<v Speaker 4>but not to the level.

852
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:08.320
<v Speaker 1>They are now.

853
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 4>And I think a lot of that has to do

854
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:13.880
<v Speaker 4>with social media. You know, if you have a feeling

855
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:16.559
<v Speaker 4>or a hot take, you grab your keyboard, you hit

856
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:18.280
<v Speaker 4>send before you even think about it, and you go

857
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:22.000
<v Speaker 4>have lunch. But now you know, and you're not held accountable.

858
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.000
<v Speaker 4>The other thing, Jeff and I didn't invent this, but

859
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:29.360
<v Speaker 4>as somebody pointed out, Mark Stoops raised not just the

860
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.199
<v Speaker 4>ceiling but the floor. You know, you and I've covered

861
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:34.599
<v Speaker 4>this program back when flirting with six wins was a

862
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 4>big deal. Now that's considered failure and nine or ten

863
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:43.880
<v Speaker 4>wins is almost expected, which used to be impossible back then.

864
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:47.039
<v Speaker 4>And it's not as easy to schedule wins, as people think,

865
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:50.280
<v Speaker 4>but it all comes into play. Does that make sense?

866
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:56.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, definitely. Well for years, I mean we heard this,

867
00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:00.239
<v Speaker 6>you hit you and I and many others. Just give

868
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 6>me the six wins, a chance to be in a

869
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:06.599
<v Speaker 6>bowl gate and I'll never ask for anything more. You know,

870
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:10.719
<v Speaker 6>that was the That was the typical UK fan response.

871
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:14.440
<v Speaker 6>You're right when you do find a way to get

872
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:19.119
<v Speaker 6>to a couple of New Year's Day, you know, bowl games,

873
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:23.559
<v Speaker 6>When win team games a couple of times, you elevate

874
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:28.679
<v Speaker 6>the thinking that he's kind of you know, I don't

875
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:30.000
<v Speaker 6>know if this is the right term for it, but

876
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.320
<v Speaker 6>it's a little bit of a victim of his own success.

877
00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 6>Terms of the way the fan base has judged these

878
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:41.559
<v Speaker 6>last two or three years. They they want a little

879
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:46.360
<v Speaker 6>bit more, and I think even more than that. You know,

880
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:48.960
<v Speaker 6>this has been the case for a long time in Kentucky.

881
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:53.599
<v Speaker 6>It's important for them to to win in kind of

882
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:57.760
<v Speaker 6>a fun way too, And the last couple of years

883
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.280
<v Speaker 6>it's just felt like such a grid, especially on the

884
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:05.199
<v Speaker 6>offensive side of the ball, trying to find ways to

885
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 6>move the football and score. I think that's a pretty

886
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:12.440
<v Speaker 6>big part of it. While you turn on the TV

887
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:16.280
<v Speaker 6>every Saturday. If you see people doing all kinds of

888
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:20.599
<v Speaker 6>crazy things with their offense at Kentucky campaign to get

889
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.039
<v Speaker 6>that point, yeah, and you know not to.

890
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:25.400
<v Speaker 4>Be pointing fingers, but I do believe it all starts

891
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:28.159
<v Speaker 4>with the old line because people, of course fell in

892
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.920
<v Speaker 4>love with the offenses that were keyed by the big

893
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:35.559
<v Speaker 4>Blue Wall, the traditional, the original big Blue Wall. They

894
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 4>haven't seen that three years, so that is such a key.

895
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:41.760
<v Speaker 4>And to circle back to your original point, Toledo coming

896
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:44.320
<v Speaker 4>off an eight and five year you've got to assume

897
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:48.480
<v Speaker 4>that they've had roster turnover. Everybody has roster turnover. But

898
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:52.159
<v Speaker 4>that's a team that won their first three games last year,

899
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:57.360
<v Speaker 4>including at Mississippi State, beat an SEC team on the road,

900
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:02.400
<v Speaker 4>finished up with in overtime six overtime win over Pittsburgh

901
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:07.440
<v Speaker 4>in a bowl game, and in the game above Sports Bowl.

902
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, the group that's running this program, they know

903
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:14.880
<v Speaker 4>how to get it done. They're going to see this

904
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 4>as an opportunity, aren't there to come in and pick

905
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:20.440
<v Speaker 4>off an SEC team that's been wounded of late? Right?

906
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:24.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think they'll come in expecting to win.

907
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:25.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know that.

908
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:29.000
<v Speaker 6>I think the previous season they went to Illinois and

909
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:32.960
<v Speaker 6>played a very competitive game, and the two years before

910
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:36.719
<v Speaker 6>that played a Notre Dame in Ohio State. So they're

911
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:39.760
<v Speaker 6>not going to come in here and intimidated in any way.

912
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.480
<v Speaker 6>So that was part of our question too. You know,

913
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:47.599
<v Speaker 6>most of us say, you know, they've got to beat Toledo, right,

914
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:49.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's almost an afrogat. I think that all

915
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:52.800
<v Speaker 6>of the fans still think that way. But it's not

916
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:56.000
<v Speaker 6>going to be easy, to be a very challenging game.

917
00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:59.119
<v Speaker 6>But I think I think if Kentucky can take care

918
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.920
<v Speaker 6>of business and then rest of passion, maybe it helps

919
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.320
<v Speaker 6>turn the mindset and the attitude around going into that

920
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.199
<v Speaker 6>big Week two game against Old Miss.

921
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.079
<v Speaker 4>He is Jeff Drummond of Cats. Paul kef I'll start

922
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:14.360
<v Speaker 4>that again. I'll cut that out. He is Jeff Drummond

923
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.079
<v Speaker 4>of Cats Illustrated. We'll come back and talk basketball with

924
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:19.079
<v Speaker 4>Jay Drumm in just a moment here in the Big

925
00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:22.559
<v Speaker 4>blon Sider six thirty WLAP. Welcome back. We're talking with

926
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Jeff Drummond of Cats Illustrated. And before I ask you

927
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:29.079
<v Speaker 4>about the basketball catch you cover a lot of UK baseball.

928
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.239
<v Speaker 4>You pop into our booth. We get to see you

929
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:35.400
<v Speaker 4>when you're shooting photos of the home games and the

930
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:38.559
<v Speaker 4>College World Series is taking shape. It is not the

931
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:42.280
<v Speaker 4>SEC party that it was last year. Still some set

932
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:48.000
<v Speaker 4>teams involved. But I like the fact that Coastal Carolina

933
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:51.400
<v Speaker 4>is going back, and honestly, that program has been more

934
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.920
<v Speaker 4>successful than people give it credit for. I think this

935
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:57.039
<v Speaker 4>is their ninth trip to Omaha. But you got to

936
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.079
<v Speaker 4>Murray State making a bid tonight.

937
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:00.280
<v Speaker 5>You know.

938
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:03.920
<v Speaker 4>I love seeing SEC success, Jeff, but I think I

939
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.519
<v Speaker 4>like seeing the not that Coastal is a little guy,

940
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:10.199
<v Speaker 4>but I like seeing sure of the off brands get

941
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:11.320
<v Speaker 4>in there too, you know what I mean.

942
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's It's certainly been an exciting tournament. You've got

943
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:23.159
<v Speaker 6>a lot of parody, for sure, and the SEC did

944
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 6>a little bit of a faith plant in some ways.

945
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:30.599
<v Speaker 6>But the more I watched of it, I think it

946
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:33.920
<v Speaker 6>might be coming to how to Arkansas and m SU

947
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:37.599
<v Speaker 6>look like the cream of the crops in the field

948
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:41.280
<v Speaker 6>that's going to be going to Omaha. And then then

949
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:43.639
<v Speaker 6>you'll have a little bit of a drop off in

950
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.079
<v Speaker 6>my opinion, because you had such a big upset with

951
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:51.760
<v Speaker 6>Vanderbilt Texas and North Carolina going down arguably, you know,

952
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:53.960
<v Speaker 6>at one point, you could have considered those top three

953
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 6>teams in the country.

954
00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:00.360
<v Speaker 4>There's an ongoing social media argument now with some of

955
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:03.239
<v Speaker 4>the national heads about too many SEC teams getting in

956
00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:08.400
<v Speaker 4>UH pointing at without naming him, Kentucky with only thirteen

957
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:12.440
<v Speaker 4>conference wins. But you know, when you're locked into a

958
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:17.679
<v Speaker 4>conference like that, strike to schedule, you know, conference wins,

959
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:19.639
<v Speaker 4>it's all going a factor. And I was amazed Kentucky

960
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:20.400
<v Speaker 4>got in the tournament.

961
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:25.960
<v Speaker 6>Frankly what they made it to the regional final. So

962
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:29.480
<v Speaker 6>I don't know why they used Kentucky as an example

963
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:34.199
<v Speaker 6>because they I think they outperformed probably what they were

964
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:38.880
<v Speaker 6>expected to do, especially with that drubbing of Clemson to

965
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:41.440
<v Speaker 6>make it for the regional final, and quite honestly, they

966
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:44.440
<v Speaker 6>should have gone to the supers. Yeah, they found they

967
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.840
<v Speaker 6>found a way to blow both games through West Virginia.

968
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:52.079
<v Speaker 6>I don't think they could have probably advanced much further

969
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:57.679
<v Speaker 6>than that, but you know, they're they're animetics. UH saved

970
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:00.639
<v Speaker 6>them this year and it was one time that a

971
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:05.840
<v Speaker 6>committee really put the money where the mouth was behind

972
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:09.360
<v Speaker 6>these things like the RPI and strength of schedule. Kentucky's

973
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:12.079
<v Speaker 6>numbers were definitely worthy of the tournament.

974
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:14.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he got to tip your captain, nickmn Je

975
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:16.199
<v Speaker 4>And he went to school or back to school on

976
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:19.280
<v Speaker 4>analytics a few years ago and changed the way he

977
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:22.559
<v Speaker 4>scheduled when he does business. So a few minutes left

978
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 4>Jef drumming to catch illustrated. Right now, Mark Pope's got

979
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:28.360
<v Speaker 4>his satellite camps going on, his father's son camps going on.

980
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:32.880
<v Speaker 4>That's what basketball coaches do. But one of his players

981
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:35.639
<v Speaker 4>is otega Oway taking part. I had a clip on

982
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:39.400
<v Speaker 4>earlier with the Oway teasing Pope about the phone call

983
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 4>he made to Mark telling him he was coming back,

984
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:45.199
<v Speaker 4>and Pope said he literally the coach had tears in

985
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:49.800
<v Speaker 4>his eyes when he heard that. I guess you can

986
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:54.559
<v Speaker 4>understand that. But always return impressed.

987
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Some of the.

988
00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:58.199
<v Speaker 4>Preseason way too soon posters. Some have him in the

989
00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:00.960
<v Speaker 4>top ten. Some are saying they could make a run

990
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:03.840
<v Speaker 4>at the national title. Is that is that too soon

991
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:04.599
<v Speaker 4>to say? You think?

992
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:06.800
<v Speaker 5>No?

993
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:10.920
<v Speaker 6>I think that's fair, And especially when Mark Ope endorses

994
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:15.039
<v Speaker 6>the idea, he says that should be the expectation. And

995
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:19.199
<v Speaker 6>I think he knows that he's put together a roster

996
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:23.400
<v Speaker 6>of talent definitely capable of making it there. It's just

997
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:26.840
<v Speaker 6>a matter now if it all comes together in jail.

998
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:30.920
<v Speaker 6>He'll have as much talent as anybody in the country.

999
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:33.800
<v Speaker 6>I don't think anybody will be able to point to

1000
00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:36.599
<v Speaker 6>a roster and say this one he has definitely better

1001
00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:38.480
<v Speaker 6>than Kentucky's. But we've just got to see how the

1002
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:43.559
<v Speaker 6>pieces fit, how they fit into his particular style, and

1003
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:47.800
<v Speaker 6>you know, will they have enough kind of star power

1004
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:50.880
<v Speaker 6>at the top and the leadership that's going to be

1005
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:51.639
<v Speaker 6>needed to get there.

1006
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:54.159
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think they've got that in a way in

1007
00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:55.880
<v Speaker 4>terms of star power. And he's gonna have to be

1008
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:59.920
<v Speaker 4>the leader because I always agreed with Larry Brown's that says,

1009
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:01.880
<v Speaker 4>back when you want a title with Kansas, and he

1010
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:04.599
<v Speaker 4>kind of clashed with Danny Manning, who didn't want to

1011
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:08.119
<v Speaker 4>be a leader, and Larry Brown said, no, your best

1012
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:10.440
<v Speaker 4>player has to be a leader. I think Away can

1013
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:14.000
<v Speaker 4>do that. My question to you is, I think you

1014
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:17.480
<v Speaker 4>were there when Pope doubled down on the number of

1015
00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:19.719
<v Speaker 4>three pointers he wants his team to take in a

1016
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:22.519
<v Speaker 4>news conference a couple of weeks ago. Is that a

1017
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:24.760
<v Speaker 4>concern do you think with this team three point shooting

1018
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:26.119
<v Speaker 4>because it was not last year?

1019
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:30.719
<v Speaker 6>Well, I think that the only concern for me is

1020
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:34.519
<v Speaker 6>the number they get up because they just for one

1021
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.320
<v Speaker 6>reason or another, they weren't able to get their goal

1022
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:40.639
<v Speaker 6>numbers of being around thirty a game, you know, as

1023
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:44.679
<v Speaker 6>close to I think twenty a game, and a lot

1024
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:48.599
<v Speaker 6>of teams were able to overextend on defense and kind

1025
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:50.719
<v Speaker 6>of I think the term that Pope's a lot was

1026
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:54.639
<v Speaker 6>chased them off the line. I think the pieces this

1027
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:59.760
<v Speaker 6>year are built and in a way that people won't

1028
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:02.760
<v Speaker 6>be to be that as much. Because you've got two

1029
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:05.920
<v Speaker 6>or three guys that will play a lot of minutes.

1030
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:10.039
<v Speaker 6>You try to overextend and come out, you know, be

1031
00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:11.599
<v Speaker 6>on the free point line, they're gonna put it on

1032
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:14.159
<v Speaker 6>the floor and go buy you and attack them were

1033
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:17.360
<v Speaker 6>so I think that's gonna lead to a lot more

1034
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:22.400
<v Speaker 6>kind of penetrating kick fight three. Yeah, and they ought

1035
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:25.000
<v Speaker 6>to be able to get closer to that number that

1036
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:25.719
<v Speaker 6>Hope would.

1037
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:25.840
<v Speaker 5>Like to have.

1038
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:28.400
<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll let you go with this. I think last

1039
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:32.480
<v Speaker 4>year fans, I know, really enjoyed they were. They were,

1040
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:35.840
<v Speaker 4>of course disappointed by the end of the year. Everybody

1041
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:38.880
<v Speaker 4>always is unless their team wins it all. But the

1042
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:42.360
<v Speaker 4>way they got there was so uplifting to the big

1043
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Blue nation, you know, and of course, the way the

1044
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:47.719
<v Speaker 4>head coach does business compared to the last guy, and

1045
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:49.519
<v Speaker 4>when the last guy was going to the final four

1046
00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:53.480
<v Speaker 4>and all nobody complained. But when it got a little

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00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:55.519
<v Speaker 4>bit hard to digest, and you know, it all kind

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00:59:55.519 --> 01:00:00.440
<v Speaker 4>of fell apart. But do you think fans will be

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01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:02.679
<v Speaker 4>a little tougher on the head coach this year? Because

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<v Speaker 4>you might have heard, I know you listened to his

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01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:07.559
<v Speaker 4>calling show from time to time last year and there

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01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.400
<v Speaker 4>were folks who called in and were gently trying to

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<v Speaker 4>explain to him why he was making a mistake the

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01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:15.760
<v Speaker 4>way he subbed people, and of course, you know Mark

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01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:20.079
<v Speaker 4>dug In and gently explained why or animatedly explain why

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<v Speaker 4>he does the way he does things. But do you

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<v Speaker 4>think it gets a little bit tougher and the fans

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01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:26.559
<v Speaker 4>get a little bit tougher on him this year?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? I could see that. I don't know if the term,

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01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:34.800
<v Speaker 6>you know, the honeymoon's over, I don't know if that

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01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:39.440
<v Speaker 6>would be the right way to put it. But they

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<v Speaker 6>kind of gave him a year of grace, I think,

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01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:47.840
<v Speaker 6>to rebuild that entire roster with you guys, and most

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01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:51.280
<v Speaker 6>Kentucky fans knew they won't probably weren't going to the

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01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:54.559
<v Speaker 6>Final four or contending for a title in that first year.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think the expectations will ramp up a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit with this kind of But I like the fact

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<v Speaker 6>that Mark Pope will kind of meet those questions had

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<v Speaker 6>on and deal with them in a way that kind

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<v Speaker 6>of disarms people, Whereas you know, the previous guy had

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of pushback and fight it at any

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<v Speaker 6>time anyone dared to question something he was doing. So

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<v Speaker 6>I think that that buys Mark Pope a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>more good will. And the fact that he's a former

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<v Speaker 6>player too and a champion uh shoot factor into that.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think people will want to see a few

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01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:38.920
<v Speaker 6>things kind of six to see I don't know six

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<v Speaker 6>the right word, but a few adjustments on his part

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<v Speaker 6>that helped them optimize, especially the the regular season, so

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<v Speaker 6>they don't take as many offices and maybe have a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit better speed going into the tournament.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine, although anything's possible, something coming up within

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01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:01.679
<v Speaker 4>the Big Moon Nation or UK Bash that might catch

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Pope completely off guard, but you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>He is.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff Drummond follow him on Twitter at j drum UK

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<v Speaker 4>and at Katchillustrated dot Com.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, brother ad.

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<v Speaker 4>Take care Up next Kobe Wilson from Fox fifty six

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<v Speaker 4>here in Lexington, stay with us here on six thirty

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<v Speaker 4>WLAP Welcome back to the Big Moon Sider joining us

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<v Speaker 4>here on the Celebrity Hodline. We talked to Kobe Wilson

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01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:29.199
<v Speaker 4>a while back, haven't had a chance to chat on here.

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<v Speaker 4>We see each other all the time at news conferences. Kolbe,

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<v Speaker 4>how's your summer going so far? Fox fifty six by

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01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:35.920
<v Speaker 4>the way, sports anchor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, you know it's going well. It feels like it's

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01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:42.559
<v Speaker 2>our downtime. I always say after the Derby that's the

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01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:44.840
<v Speaker 2>time to like just kind of relax for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>But then it's like, well, summer league's coming up.

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<v Speaker 6>You still got off.

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01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Season basketball moves going on baseball and softball courts, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we've been at the We've been at Kentuckistrock Park

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01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:58.840
<v Speaker 2>in John Stadium religiously this past week with state state

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01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:02.559
<v Speaker 2>champions on softball. So it's been it's still been pretty busy,

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01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:05.199
<v Speaker 2>but it's been good. Other than the cicados, I'm ready.

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01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:05.639
<v Speaker 6>For those to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we can't forget about the high. The high school

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01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:12.000
<v Speaker 4>sports is still happening out there, and a lot of

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01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:15.599
<v Speaker 4>drama mixed for good television. So does horse racing. And

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned the Kentucky Derby and Colby by way of background,

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01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:22.760
<v Speaker 4>played college soccer in Portland, but it's from southern coup

1113
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:26.440
<v Speaker 4>from the LA area or Daz a football coach. But uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you have had to learn horse racing and you've got

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<v Speaker 4>tweets pinned on your Twitter page about the Belmont you

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01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:38.719
<v Speaker 4>cover the Derby. How did you come to find horse

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<v Speaker 4>racing as a journalist. I mean, it's an intimidating sport

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01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:44.880
<v Speaker 4>to cover. Did you even know much or care about

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01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:46.639
<v Speaker 4>horse racing before you got here?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny because coming from the West Coast,

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01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:53.440
<v Speaker 2>everyone knows about the Kentucky Derby just because it's the

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01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky Derby, but no one knows what goes into it

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<v Speaker 2>the behind the scenes. You don't know owners or trainers

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01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:01.639
<v Speaker 2>or you know, you don't know any of the x's

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01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:04.119
<v Speaker 2>and oh detailed stuff. So, like you said, I knew

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01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:07.079
<v Speaker 2>absolutely nothing coming to Kentucky. All I knew is you

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01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:10.280
<v Speaker 2>better get caught up pretty fast because it's horse racing

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01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:13.239
<v Speaker 2>country here. But I will say I mean going on

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<v Speaker 2>my I just covered my second derby is absolutely incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone asked me like, how is it. Everyone I talked

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01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:20.400
<v Speaker 2>to They're like, it's on my bucket list. But you really,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even put into words what it's like. I'm

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01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:25.519
<v Speaker 2>just like, you have to come. But as a journalist,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's been super fun and I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>just even in the morning times going out to the barns,

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<v Speaker 2>you get to know these trainers, You get to know

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01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:37.239
<v Speaker 2>familiar faces, and then you really like become attached in

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01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:39.559
<v Speaker 2>a way a little bit. Like the only trainer I

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01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:43.440
<v Speaker 2>talked to ahead of this derby was Billmont actually trainer

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01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:46.239
<v Speaker 2>and so, and then last year the only trainer I

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01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:48.440
<v Speaker 2>talked to was Kenny McPeek. No, for me, it's been

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01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:50.880
<v Speaker 2>like it's been like a two out of two over

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01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:53.360
<v Speaker 2>here with me. So it's been super fun. But no,

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01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:54.599
<v Speaker 2>I've absolutely enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 4>It can be intimidating, but those are two of the

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01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:02.519
<v Speaker 4>best trainers to talk to because Kenny a little younger

1147
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:09.320
<v Speaker 4>than Bill, but he he so understands and embraces, you know,

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01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:12.920
<v Speaker 4>the value of getting the message out about horse racing.

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01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:15.639
<v Speaker 4>He's got his own app he's got his own podcast.

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01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:18.880
<v Speaker 4>I spoke to him the Monday morning after the derby

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01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:21.519
<v Speaker 4>for crying out loud. He made time for me because

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01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:24.360
<v Speaker 4>he said that's important. And Bill Mott, as you know,

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01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:27.559
<v Speaker 4>is one of the great gentlemen in racing nights get

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01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:30.280
<v Speaker 4>a horses won two jewels of the Triple Crowns. So

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<v Speaker 4>that that helps, doesn't it?

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01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:32.960
<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And I think you know, everyone's trying to understand

1158
01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:37.519
<v Speaker 2>now the way of the world, and with media like

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01:05:37.639 --> 01:05:40.320
<v Speaker 2>it's always it's now going to that like short form

1160
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:43.239
<v Speaker 2>type of media like going on TikTok and all those things.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think these trainers are kind of understanding too, like, well,

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01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:48.440
<v Speaker 2>this is kind of we have to adjust in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think Kenny mcteek is certainly doing that. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Bill Mott, I mean, he's just the world class guy.

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<v Speaker 2>When I interviewed him, he was on he was on

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01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:56.719
<v Speaker 2>top of his horse and I was down at the

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01:05:56.719 --> 01:05:59.119
<v Speaker 2>bottom on the ground, just had my microphone high and up.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was it's an all around great guy. He

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01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:04.239
<v Speaker 2>was just he really just was talking about just trying

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01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:06.559
<v Speaker 2>to enjoy the moment, and I can tell he certainly

1171
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:07.760
<v Speaker 2>done that up to this point.

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01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:10.880
<v Speaker 4>Talking to Kobe Wilson in Fox fifty six. She covers

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01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:15.360
<v Speaker 4>really everything for Channel fifty six. Well, we're not supposed

1174
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:18.000
<v Speaker 4>to call it that anymore. I know, consultants say call

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01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:21.519
<v Speaker 4>letters w DK. Why bumped into you over at EKU

1176
01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:24.920
<v Speaker 4>When Jan Weisberg was named the head coach, I covered

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01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:26.599
<v Speaker 4>her so far back, I go, I covered him as

1178
01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:32.360
<v Speaker 4>a player, but his resume is just staggering when you

1179
01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:35.519
<v Speaker 4>look at everything he's accomplished. But I think, really, and

1180
01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:38.599
<v Speaker 4>you probably remember this the story a couple of years

1181
01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:41.320
<v Speaker 4>ago when he was a head coach at Birmingham Southern

1182
01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:45.400
<v Speaker 4>and the school closed, not didn't drop baseball. The school

1183
01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:49.679
<v Speaker 4>shut its doors. Everybody, we're out of business, but the

1184
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:55.079
<v Speaker 4>baseball team wouldn't go away, and he spoke passionately about

1185
01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:58.400
<v Speaker 4>what it was like to be the head coach and

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01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:01.519
<v Speaker 4>keep that team together, throw all the emotional ups and downs,

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01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:05.400
<v Speaker 4>which is something quite frankly, I hadn't really considered when

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01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:07.159
<v Speaker 4>I knew he was the coach. When it was going on,

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01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:10.239
<v Speaker 4>I said, yeah, I remember that guy, but what is

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01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:14.079
<v Speaker 4>players must have been going through. I thought that was

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01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:15.239
<v Speaker 4>a great storyline, didn't you?

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01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? And I think those are the kind of guys

1193
01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:21.519
<v Speaker 2>you want to lead a program, because that just shows

1194
01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:24.960
<v Speaker 2>you if it's more it's beyond the x's and o's.

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01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:27.760
<v Speaker 2>For him, it's about culture. It's about you know, building

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01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:30.599
<v Speaker 2>young men into into men that are going to go

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01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:32.920
<v Speaker 2>off in the world one day. And you can certainly tell,

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01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:35.039
<v Speaker 2>just based on his press conference and the people that

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01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:37.440
<v Speaker 2>were there, that he's not just coming in there to

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01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:40.280
<v Speaker 2>change a program, but also people. And I think that

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01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:41.840
<v Speaker 2>was a big time higher from the Colonel.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I agree, he's only got five players right now,

1203
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:48.639
<v Speaker 4>but well when we talk to him, I guarantee he's

1204
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:49.320
<v Speaker 4>got more bocking.

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01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm not saying he's way too experienced. He

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01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:53.400
<v Speaker 2>knows exactly what he's doing.

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01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:55.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yeah, Well, speaking of a guy who knows

1208
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:58.760
<v Speaker 4>what he's doing, Mark Pope as Otaga, Oh way back

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01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:01.639
<v Speaker 4>in the fold. And again you've only been I think

1210
01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:04.280
<v Speaker 4>here for a couple of years. But one of your

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01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:08.800
<v Speaker 4>pinned tweets is video I guess you shot it after

1212
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:12.880
<v Speaker 4>the Louisville game of the past Kentucky players throwing l's

1213
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.239
<v Speaker 4>down after the U of L game. What's that been

1214
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:18.119
<v Speaker 4>like for you to sort of assimilate into the big

1215
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:21.279
<v Speaker 4>Blue Nation scene. I mean, you're on the outside looking

1216
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:25.319
<v Speaker 4>in as a reporter. But yeah, uh, it's it's a

1217
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:26.319
<v Speaker 4>big story, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been incredible. I mean, of course, when I

1219
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:33.600
<v Speaker 2>first got here it was cal Perry's last year, so

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01:08:34.039 --> 01:08:36.279
<v Speaker 2>just just to even cover a Hall of Fame coach

1221
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:39.159
<v Speaker 2>and be at one of the biggest blue bloods, it

1222
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:42.000
<v Speaker 2>was incredible. And then of course this whole Mark Pope

1223
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:45.039
<v Speaker 2>thing comes along, and you know, Big Blue Nation doesn't

1224
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:47.159
<v Speaker 2>really know what to expect. I heard all the all

1225
01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:49.880
<v Speaker 2>the talk going into when his name first popped up,

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01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:52.000
<v Speaker 2>and then of course the second he took the job,

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01:08:52.199 --> 01:08:55.000
<v Speaker 2>BBN just embraced them. But I will say what just

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01:08:55.319 --> 01:08:59.439
<v Speaker 2>completely changed my perspective on Kentucky, Kentucky basketball and what

1229
01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:02.840
<v Speaker 2>this this fan base is about, was Mark Pope's introductory

1230
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:06.640
<v Speaker 2>press conference. I mean I actually had chills from the

1231
01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:11.359
<v Speaker 2>bus to just help pack out, help pack out the

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01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:13.760
<v Speaker 2>gym was I actually couldn't believe that. I think I

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01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:17.079
<v Speaker 2>was in like a in disbelief for probably half of

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01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:19.920
<v Speaker 2>the press conference before I could actually snap back into

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01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:21.000
<v Speaker 2>what I was actually doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I frankly I was into disbelief as well. And

1237
01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:29.439
<v Speaker 4>I remember talking to people who had been there at

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01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:33.479
<v Speaker 4>Repperina early and they said, yeah, the Reperena people expected

1239
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:38.760
<v Speaker 4>maybe they needed to prepare four or five sections, you know,

1240
01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:44.479
<v Speaker 4>for fans coming in, but I mean to leave out,

1241
01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:47.359
<v Speaker 4>to shut the doors and leave thousands on the sidewalk.

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01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:49.680
<v Speaker 4>I've been here forever, Klobe. That was one of the

1243
01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:52.319
<v Speaker 4>most incredible things I've ever seen, you know, I mean,

1244
01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:55.199
<v Speaker 4>how do you describe that to you to your fans

1245
01:09:55.279 --> 01:09:56.279
<v Speaker 4>and friends back home?

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01:09:57.840 --> 01:09:58.600
<v Speaker 6>You can't.

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01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I Frienson video pictures and you can tell they're like,

1248
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:03.960
<v Speaker 2>oh my goodness, because it just that doesn't happen in

1249
01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:07.119
<v Speaker 2>any other program. So the second they see that, they know, okay,

1250
01:10:07.239 --> 01:10:09.479
<v Speaker 2>it's she's a tucky. But until you're part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually had my best friend from the West Coast.

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<v Speaker 2>She came to Lexington that for the Arkansas name when

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<v Speaker 2>cal Perry came back, and her her boyfriend's are long

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01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:23.359
<v Speaker 2>just a sportsman in general, so they were like, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to come back for this moment. And even them

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<v Speaker 2>coming here, she knows absolutely nothing about basketball. She's just

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<v Speaker 2>here for the good time. But she even had the

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<v Speaker 2>most incredible time and was like it just feels so

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<v Speaker 2>much different. And I mean, she's the West Coast girl

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01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:40.039
<v Speaker 2>that Lakers games, you name it right, and she came here.

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<v Speaker 2>She came here and even was like, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>just different.

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<v Speaker 4>She is Colby Wilson. She is an anchor reporter for

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<v Speaker 4>Fox fifty six here and lexingon We'll come back and

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<v Speaker 4>talk more sports with Colby on the other side of

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<v Speaker 4>the break here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're

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<v Speaker 4>talking with Colby Wilson. She covers sports for Fox fifty

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01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:01.199
<v Speaker 4>six w DK Why. You might see her work on

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01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:03.920
<v Speaker 4>the anchor desk or out in the field, but like

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01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:08.119
<v Speaker 4>every TV sports reporter has to be kind of an

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<v Speaker 4>expert on everything. Although soccer was your game in college.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, and you've made a lot of trips to

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01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:19.640
<v Speaker 4>the soccer pitch out there way out I guess technically

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<v Speaker 4>is not Richmond Rode but at there by seventy five.

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<v Speaker 4>What has that been like for you and give Lexington

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01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:29.760
<v Speaker 4>kind of an update on soccer taking rut that level

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01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:33.239
<v Speaker 4>of soccer for men and women taking root here in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean it's been super fun, Like you said,

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01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:39.319
<v Speaker 2>playing soccer in college in all my life, it's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>more natural for me to talk about and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>be Immerston, but Lexington Sporting Club. It's been so much fun.

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01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I host a thirty minute show called Around the Pitch

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<v Speaker 2>for Fox each week on both teams, and just getting

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01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:54.399
<v Speaker 2>to know these players. I think the cool part for

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<v Speaker 2>me is one I have a lot of connections that

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01:11:57.239 --> 01:11:59.359
<v Speaker 2>I found out with these players. I've played against at

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<v Speaker 2>least four of the of the women's team, and then

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<v Speaker 2>on the men's side, a lot of them played at

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01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Oregon State when I played at Portland, so we have

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01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:08.800
<v Speaker 2>made those mutual Oh yeah, so we've made a lot

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01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:11.800
<v Speaker 2>of mutual connections. And like I interviewed a girl not

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01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:13.600
<v Speaker 2>too long ago and we played each other in club

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01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Soffer women in high school kid. So it's been it's

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01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:19.479
<v Speaker 2>been super fun to make those connections. But no, this

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<v Speaker 2>this club, I think they're they're really going in the

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01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:24.520
<v Speaker 2>right direction. They've got a solid fan base that really

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<v Speaker 2>cares about them and the direction that they're going. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like anything that's new, you have your growing pains,

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<v Speaker 2>you got things you have to work through, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think after you know, the women's first USL Super League

1301
01:12:35.319 --> 01:12:39.640
<v Speaker 2>inaugural season, uh, they're learning and now that season has ended,

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01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:41.880
<v Speaker 2>so they're trying to kind of rebuild their roster up

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01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:44.119
<v Speaker 2>for next season. And then the men, I think they're

1304
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:46.239
<v Speaker 2>they're finding their ground as they go. I mean again,

1305
01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:48.960
<v Speaker 2>a new team, new faces, new head coach, new staff.

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01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:51.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's just those those first year of growing pains.

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01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:53.800
<v Speaker 2>But I'm excited to see where this club is going

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01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:54.760
<v Speaker 2>in the future for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. How have the crowds been.

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<v Speaker 5>The crowds have been.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been good. You know, I've definitely the men's side

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01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:04.239
<v Speaker 2>gets more fans than the women. I think they're still

1313
01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:05.840
<v Speaker 2>trying to put the word out there and build that.

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01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:09.079
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's a great environment. And when I

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01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:12.119
<v Speaker 2>walk in, you got fan zone, you got stuff for

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01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:14.399
<v Speaker 2>the kids. I mean, it's like a hat in it spot.

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01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:16.359
<v Speaker 2>It kind of feels like busy bees when you walk in.

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01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:19.560
<v Speaker 2>And I mean it's a huge stadium, so that's going

1319
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:23.119
<v Speaker 2>to take time to put people in the seats. But ultimately,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say they've got they've got a big crowd

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01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:27.880
<v Speaker 2>for the first year. It's been pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they've got social media presidence. They're trying to

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01:13:32.279 --> 01:13:35.359
<v Speaker 4>do everything right, you know, but in this day and age,

1324
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:39.800
<v Speaker 4>when you're competing for eyeballs and attention. Ye, it's a challenge.

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<v Speaker 4>We're talking to Kobe Wilson from Fox fifty six, covers baseball, football, basketball, soccer,

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01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:50.680
<v Speaker 4>played soccer. Mark Stoops in his program are under intense

1327
01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:54.159
<v Speaker 4>scrutiny right now. Are you looking forward to the upcoming

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01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:57.840
<v Speaker 4>season because this could be one of those years when

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to really take the temperature, read the room,

1330
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:02.880
<v Speaker 4>whatever you want to call it, when it comes to

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01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:04.600
<v Speaker 4>the D one football program you cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Yeah, No, I definitely hut. I would say, you know,

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01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:13.079
<v Speaker 2>last year was my first year covering four and eight.

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01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Not not not ideal, not always fun when you're at

1335
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:18.319
<v Speaker 2>games and you know we're we're on the losing side

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01:14:18.359 --> 01:14:21.239
<v Speaker 2>of things. But I am looking forward to it. I

1337
01:14:21.319 --> 01:14:23.439
<v Speaker 2>think it's like you said, it's a rebuild year, but

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01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it is a make or break here for

1339
01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:27.479
<v Speaker 2>Mark Soups. I think he knows that. I mean, these coaches,

1340
01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:29.279
<v Speaker 2>My dad's a football coach. They know how it goes.

1341
01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:32.039
<v Speaker 2>You don't want, you don't win, you don't have a job,

1342
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:36.039
<v Speaker 2>and I think he knows that before anybody else. But

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01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm interested to see how this incoming trendfer class, how

1344
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:41.960
<v Speaker 2>they do I mean of course you mentioned zat Calzatta.

1345
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he has sec experience. It's going to be

1346
01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:47.800
<v Speaker 2>interesting to see how, you know, he competes now because

1347
01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:50.239
<v Speaker 2>the other schools are doing the same thing Kentucky's trying

1348
01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:51.920
<v Speaker 2>to do. I mean, just look at what Vandy did

1349
01:14:52.039 --> 01:14:55.479
<v Speaker 2>last year. So I think I am excited because I

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01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:57.359
<v Speaker 2>want to see if he really did adjust to this,

1351
01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:01.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, nil and all that stuff like other teams

1352
01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:03.039
<v Speaker 2>did last year. And I'm interested to be kind of

1353
01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:04.119
<v Speaker 2>how it all plays out.

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<v Speaker 4>It's interesting that you bring up Vandy, which beat Kentucky

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01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:11.520
<v Speaker 4>and also beat Alabama and by Vandy standards at a

1356
01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:14.079
<v Speaker 4>terrific year when six and six in a regular season.

1357
01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:17.560
<v Speaker 4>But like I said, Vandy standards which used to be

1358
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:21.720
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky standards before you got here, of course, but you

1359
01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:25.800
<v Speaker 4>knew that, and now fans want so much more. But

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01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:28.760
<v Speaker 4>fans be fans, right, I mean.

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01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:30.199
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And at the end of the day, we know

1362
01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:32.119
<v Speaker 2>how fans are. They just want they just want to win,

1363
01:15:32.520 --> 01:15:35.079
<v Speaker 2>whatever it takes to win. If you're winning, they love you,

1364
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:38.319
<v Speaker 2>and if you're not, you got to go. And that's

1365
01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:41.960
<v Speaker 2>just that's just how they are. And so you know,

1366
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:44.279
<v Speaker 2>with a Vandy thing, but I do think that shows

1367
01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:47.520
<v Speaker 2>that it is possible. Bandy. It's for people that.

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01:15:47.640 --> 01:15:48.520
<v Speaker 6>Keep up with the SEC.

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01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:50.960
<v Speaker 2>They were never, like you said, it was always Kentucky standards.

1370
01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Just get to a bowl game and you're probably good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, now they're a top team in the SEC.

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01:15:57.880 --> 01:15:59.439
<v Speaker 2>And that was just in the snap of a finger

1374
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:01.880
<v Speaker 2>that they got that point. So it does so hope

1375
01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:05.720
<v Speaker 2>that with this NIL and transfer portal stuff it can happen.

1376
01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:09.119
<v Speaker 2>So it is possible for Mark Soops, but they just

1377
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:10.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of go out there and do it at this point.

1378
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:12.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's all going to fall into place. But the

1379
01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:17.000
<v Speaker 4>problem is, uh, for a while there you had teams

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01:16:17.079 --> 01:16:20.720
<v Speaker 4>that were backing up in the secs. Tennessee was not

1381
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:24.960
<v Speaker 4>the usual Tennessee, not even what it is now Florida,

1382
01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:27.720
<v Speaker 4>and Florida's still trying to get back and Kentucky has

1383
01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:31.600
<v Speaker 4>taken advantage of that. You know, Missouri now is getting strong.

1384
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:35.359
<v Speaker 4>Those mid level teams South Carolina, those are the programs

1385
01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:38.359
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky used to beat up on. Now they're making life

1386
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:41.439
<v Speaker 4>tougher for Mark Stoops and company. But there's only one

1387
01:16:41.479 --> 01:16:42.239
<v Speaker 4>way to get around that.

1388
01:16:42.319 --> 01:16:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Right, Uh yeah, and that's NIL. Unfortunately, I mean it's because,

1389
01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:49.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's what it is now.

1390
01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:50.319
<v Speaker 5>It's a free for all.

1391
01:16:50.319 --> 01:16:52.279
<v Speaker 2>It's not like how it used to be just recruiting,

1392
01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:54.319
<v Speaker 2>and these kids are going to a school where they

1393
01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:57.720
<v Speaker 2>know they're just going to compete and play. I mean,

1394
01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:01.039
<v Speaker 2>it's all about money now. And so now that everyone's

1395
01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:02.880
<v Speaker 2>getting on board, I don't really know if we can

1396
01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:05.079
<v Speaker 2>look at the SEC how we used to like, Oh,

1397
01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:07.479
<v Speaker 2>it's just your Missouri, it's just your Bandy, it's just

1398
01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:10.000
<v Speaker 2>your South Carolina. Like I know, I think everyone's going

1399
01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:12.800
<v Speaker 2>into this with kind of on the same level, and

1400
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I think, of course that's what makes it so hard.

1401
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:17.640
<v Speaker 2>But if you don't adjust, then you've really got no shot.

1402
01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:20.279
<v Speaker 4>I was talking to Jeffdrummond earlier on the show tonight

1403
01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:22.760
<v Speaker 4>about this and about the Kentucky schedule. He brought it

1404
01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:26.079
<v Speaker 4>up the opener with Toledo, which is a sneaky good

1405
01:17:26.159 --> 01:17:30.239
<v Speaker 4>team and beat Mississippi State last year, beat Pittsburgh last year.

1406
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:33.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure they've got a revamp roster too, but that

1407
01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:35.840
<v Speaker 4>second game, not to be looking ahead is all miss

1408
01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:38.479
<v Speaker 4>My point is we're going to know really quickly. I think,

1409
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:40.239
<v Speaker 4>aren't we about this football team?

1410
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Which you know, in a way I think is

1411
01:17:44.760 --> 01:17:47.279
<v Speaker 2>good for them. I think I think that gives you

1412
01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:49.640
<v Speaker 2>time to see what you've got, to see how you

1413
01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:52.039
<v Speaker 2>compete against the high level SEC team. I mean, of

1414
01:17:52.119 --> 01:17:53.920
<v Speaker 2>course they got it done on the road last season,

1415
01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:56.760
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's going to be an eye opener

1416
01:17:56.840 --> 01:17:59.279
<v Speaker 2>for Mark suston his staff and then you see, you

1417
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:01.880
<v Speaker 2>see really where you're at early on, so at least

1418
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:04.560
<v Speaker 2>you're fully aware and you're not finding out this mid season.

1419
01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:07.640
<v Speaker 4>I would like to know if your dad comes to

1420
01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:11.920
<v Speaker 4>town and she's a game and maybe he can help

1421
01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:14.760
<v Speaker 4>break down UK football for us at some point being

1422
01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:15.680
<v Speaker 4>a professional coach.

1423
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:17.479
<v Speaker 5>Yes, for sure.

1424
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:19.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's funny getting to talk to him. And actually

1425
01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:22.359
<v Speaker 2>funny story I think I had mentioned to you last time,

1426
01:18:22.439 --> 01:18:24.840
<v Speaker 2>but he my dad was actually on staff with Bob's

1427
01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:27.800
<v Speaker 2>soups at Oklahoma, so he's good friends with Mark and

1428
01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:30.439
<v Speaker 2>so in the summer, he when in the summer when

1429
01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:32.439
<v Speaker 2>he was here, he actually went to a practice and

1430
01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:35.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, caught up with Mark and Mike and I

1431
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:37.880
<v Speaker 2>think Bowlwear also two with that ou so that there

1432
01:18:37.960 --> 01:18:42.960
<v Speaker 2>was that connection. So he he's actually good friends with Mark,

1433
01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:45.439
<v Speaker 2>so he's definitely in support of him. And wants to

1434
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:46.119
<v Speaker 2>see him do well.

1435
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:49.159
<v Speaker 4>So he's already a fan. He's already sympathetic, isn't he.

1436
01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:50.880
<v Speaker 6>Oh? Absolutely.

1437
01:18:50.920 --> 01:18:52.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean as a coach, you got to be kind

1438
01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:54.800
<v Speaker 2>of sympathetic for anyone you know, they know too well

1439
01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:57.720
<v Speaker 2>how this how this business goes, and it's a it's

1440
01:18:57.760 --> 01:18:58.800
<v Speaker 2>a tough business to be in.

1441
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:02.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh yeah. But with coaches, it's like, I like

1442
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:04.520
<v Speaker 4>the way this guy does things. And I've talked to

1443
01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:07.439
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people who have come in from the outside, analysts,

1444
01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:11.119
<v Speaker 4>people at former players, and they do like Stoops in

1445
01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:13.720
<v Speaker 4>his philosophy and his approach. And I can't imagine her

1446
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:15.119
<v Speaker 4>dad is any different.

1447
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:15.399
<v Speaker 3>She is.

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01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:18.920
<v Speaker 4>Kobe Wilson watched for her work on Fox fifty six

1449
01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:22.880
<v Speaker 4>w dk Y and follow her on Twitter at Kolbe

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01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:26.359
<v Speaker 4>with two Eyes, Wilson with two ends. Easy enough, thank you,

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01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Seeing down the road, Thank you Jack, and thanks to

1452
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:34.000
<v Speaker 4>my guest Kobe. Jeff Drummond to Rick Bosich. While college

1453
01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:36.760
<v Speaker 4>football is going to be on top of us before

1454
01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:40.479
<v Speaker 4>we know it, so hey, just buckle up and hang on.

1455
01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:42.159
<v Speaker 4>It's going to be an interesting ride, going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a bumpy ride for the football Cats this year. We

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<v Speaker 4>may get right back to the middle of the season,

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<v Speaker 4>windows basketball start. We'll take it as it comes. That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Good night from the garage in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to hold it?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Please, Yes? And the child at Tandon anything any.

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<v Speaker 7>Such tacting, donnything, can anything, anything, then change tact. Doth

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<v Speaker 7>think to back them? Tap? Then don't do
