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Speaker 7: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the Rock and Roll History
Speaker 7: Show on Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz. I am
Speaker 7: not even going to try to explain tonight's topic. I'm
Speaker 7: going to leave that to the person who came up
Speaker 7: with it. But before we hop in, allow me to
Speaker 7: introduce all the Crambells who are joining us here tonight.
Speaker 7: First and foremost from the Richter Observatory. He just found
Speaker 7: out that Pink Floyd's CD comes with a built in
Speaker 7: laser light show. You just pop it in the microwave
Speaker 7: for a minute or two. Neil Richtor is here. What's
Speaker 7: going on? Neil?
Speaker 8: Sound that sounds I like it? Yes?
Speaker 3: Have you ever done that?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 10: Yeah, No, No, I'd be afraid I'd break the microwave.
Speaker 7: No, microwave is fine.
Speaker 8: Well, I have listened to Pink Floyd under.
Speaker 7: Never under microwaves microwave influence. I gotcha the ticket and
Speaker 7: from paranormally yours. She apologized to her boss for being
Speaker 7: late and said her car wouldn't start. Her boss asked
Speaker 7: why not, and she said, because I wasn't in it here.
Speaker 11: I actually don't have to be in my car.
Speaker 7: Just start. After that, Yeah, I keep saying I should
Speaker 7: get one of those. Every time it's ten degrees, I'm like,
Speaker 7: I need a remote start. And then when it gets warmer,
Speaker 7: I'm like, I can't be that lazy. I can't get
Speaker 7: a remote How hard is it to walk to the car.
Speaker 7: And then the winter comes and I'm like, I got
Speaker 7: to get a remote start. And it's been my truck's
Speaker 7: ten years old at this point.
Speaker 3: In the summer, you can use it with an air condition.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 9: I have an AP on my phone that does it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's what I have.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I have that.
Speaker 7: That was great, rub it in I had all right.
Speaker 7: From the silver screen, she saw a guy stumble into
Speaker 7: a bar and order a drink. The bartender says, I'm sorry,
Speaker 7: you're already wasted. I can't serve you, and the guy
Speaker 7: stumbles out. A few minutes later, the same guy stumbles
Speaker 7: back in and orders a drink. The bartender turns him down.
Speaker 7: And says, you're too drunk. I can't serve you, so
Speaker 7: the guy stumbles out. A few minutes later, the same
Speaker 7: guy comes back in and tries to order a drink,
Speaker 7: and the bartender says, I've already told you twice you're
Speaker 7: too drunk and I can't serve you. And the guy asked,
Speaker 7: how many bars do you work at? Mercedes? Kent is here?
Speaker 11: I Mercedes.
Speaker 3: Okay, I feel like I've done that.
Speaker 7: That is the biggest activity in Nashville if you go downtown.
Speaker 12: Yeah, did you hear the one about the Roman guy
Speaker 12: that walked into kay bar and ordered Yeah, held her
Speaker 12: five more chenis and put your fingers.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: He held up two fingers and said five beers please. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's one of those. Yep, our official medical person. She
Speaker 7: signed up for a carpenter's class. She hasn't built anything
Speaker 7: yet because they've only just begun. Jessica is here, very cute.
Speaker 3: I like it and have you sang it?
Speaker 7: Yes, that's the best I can do for now. Last,
Speaker 7: but not least, the host of shaving cream. She went
Speaker 7: onto Oreo's website and clicked except all cookies. Now she's
Speaker 7: just sitting back and waiting Barbaravelle is here.
Speaker 9: Hi, Barb, I'm still waiting.
Speaker 13: I got my milk ready, and I want my cookies
Speaker 13: and I want them now excellently.
Speaker 7: Hey everybody, So tonight's topic is courtesy of Gail, and
Speaker 7: I had trouble trying to explain it, so I'm going
Speaker 7: to let Gail explain it.
Speaker 10: Okay, Well, this is another one of those guess what
Speaker 10: Gail heard on the car radio on the way to
Speaker 10: or from work. You've heard me say this almost every
Speaker 10: time we do a show, and it's songs that strike
Speaker 10: you as hypnotic. And no, I didn't go off the
Speaker 10: road when I heard the song on the way to work,
Speaker 10: so not.
Speaker 7: Sleep inducing, something that just kind of holds your attention.
Speaker 10: Right, which was good because I was stuck in traffic
Speaker 10: on the Palisades Parkway as usual and it was horrendous.
Speaker 10: So the song that I chose kind of calmped me down. So, yes,
Speaker 10: songs that you feel are hypnotic.
Speaker 7: Okay, sounds good. Let's see where it goes from here. Neil,
Speaker 7: you're going to lead us off this week?
Speaker 8: Oh thank you? Okay. Well, let me start off by
Speaker 8: saying that, when done correctly, I think all music should
Speaker 8: possess a transformational hypnotic power that transports the listener into
Speaker 8: a trance like state. Now, some are a little better
Speaker 8: at it than others, or more conducive to that, and
Speaker 8: especially with the use of certain recreational mood enhancers.
Speaker 7: Shall we say, you know, but do you need the
Speaker 7: music after that?
Speaker 8: This can help? But well sometimes not, but that's you know, gotcha.
Speaker 8: So the other well, the other problem I had with this,
Speaker 8: which wasn't really a problem because I had a lot
Speaker 8: of songs came to mind, but most of them were
Speaker 8: a little long or very long, and again, under certain
Speaker 8: conditions it time doesn't really matter. But one of the
Speaker 8: first ones, of course, well, you know Pink Floyd. All
Speaker 8: of their songs are kind of hypnotic and kind of well,
Speaker 8: you know, you know Pink Floyd, but particularly the their
Speaker 8: song Echoes, which was on their nineteen seventy one album
Speaker 8: called Metal, which clocks in at just about twenty three
Speaker 8: and a half minutes. So I didn't think that was
Speaker 8: too appropriate for tonight, unless, of.
Speaker 9: Course, unless it's just your show.
Speaker 8: Right right, or if we all you know, sat and
Speaker 8: you know.
Speaker 7: That's more of an after party hanging out.
Speaker 8: And I sat around, you know, sat around the hookah
Speaker 8: or something. But anyway, the other one that came to
Speaker 8: my mind, which actually has a bit of hypnotic it's
Speaker 8: like one of those tapes that you listen to, you know,
Speaker 8: to fall asleep. The song was called Space Hymn and
Speaker 8: it came out in nineteen sixty nine. The band was
Speaker 8: called Lothar and the hand people now, who's Lothar? There
Speaker 8: was no Lothar. It was not a person. Lothar in
Speaker 8: this case was an instrument we've talked about here on
Speaker 8: the Rock and Roll History Show called the theremin, which
Speaker 8: is sort of like a little box like a radio antenna,
Speaker 8: and you play it by moving your hand up and
Speaker 8: down this antenna. And you've probably heard it in every
Speaker 8: b science fiction movie ever made, so you know, you
Speaker 8: know the So yeah, that was Lothar. Anyway, this song
Speaker 8: Space Hymn, which clocks in at about seven minutes, It
Speaker 8: starts off, you know, sit back, relax, and then all
Speaker 8: of a sudden it just evolves from there and it's
Speaker 8: definitely worth your time, as is Echoes by Pink Floyd.
Speaker 8: By the way, Now, the granddaddy of all this came
Speaker 8: out in nineteen sixty eight, and I'm talking about the
Speaker 8: much unfairly maligned in a Gada da Vida by Iron
Speaker 8: Butterfly now you know, which is about seventeen minutes long.
Speaker 8: There is a shorter version, but it really doesn't really
Speaker 8: get across the hole.
Speaker 7: You have to take the quick acting version of whatever
Speaker 7: it is.
Speaker 8: You're all right, I don't know. Somewhere along the line
Speaker 8: it became like you know, that became like a musical joke.
Speaker 8: But if you sit and listen to that, I'm sorry
Speaker 8: that it is a masterpiece.
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
Speaker 8: Yes, it flows from you know, one part seamlessly into
Speaker 8: the other, and I just think it's amazing. And from
Speaker 8: what I understand it was the original take that they
Speaker 8: used was actually a warm up somebody had the engineer
Speaker 8: had the presence of mind to actually roll tape while
Speaker 8: they were just going through it to warm up, and
Speaker 8: that ended up being the best take that they had.
Speaker 8: But anyway, yeah, that could definitely that is hypnotic, right then,
Speaker 8: you know, you don't need to go any further than that.
Speaker 8: But we don't have seventeen minutes here, and I guess
Speaker 8: you could actually several of the longer doors songs, you know,
Speaker 8: could be rather hypnotic. They're possibly arguably boring, but like
Speaker 8: l a woman or even light my fire, it's it's repetitive.
Speaker 8: It has a hypnotic effect, you know so.
Speaker 7: Or some might call it rage inducing. Only I'm not
Speaker 7: the only one who thinks the doors are terrible.
Speaker 3: No, you're not.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm just being subjective, Brian. I know you are.
Speaker 8: You are the arbiter of taste for the known universe
Speaker 8: and planets beyond. Well, just we're being subjective.
Speaker 7: All right, fair, but they still think.
Speaker 8: Well, they speak highly of you.
Speaker 11: That are any of them still alive?
Speaker 8: Couple? Anyway, I didn't go with any of those. Uh
Speaker 8: So my choice this week is called the Dragon Song
Speaker 8: and it's by Brian Augur's Oblivion Express Nice Now Brian L.
Speaker 8: Gordon Auger. He was born in July nineteen thirty nine
Speaker 8: in London, England. He's a keyboard player and a jazz
Speaker 8: fusion pioneer. He also incorporated British pop, R and B
Speaker 8: and soul music into his sound. Now. Auger is best
Speaker 8: known for his primary instrument, which is the Hammond organ,
Speaker 8: which I think we've discussed here, which brings us to
Speaker 8: our next point. In nineteen sixty five, Auger was brought
Speaker 8: in as a session man for the legendary British band
Speaker 8: The Yardbirds, of course, probably best known, aside from having
Speaker 8: very cool songs, three of the best known rock guitarists ever,
Speaker 8: Jimmy Page, Eric Lapton and Jeff Beck in and out
Speaker 8: of their ranks at some point or another. So anyway,
Speaker 8: he was originally brought in to play the Hammond organ,
Speaker 8: which as I said, was his primary instrument, but the
Speaker 8: studio didn't have one there, and as I say, the
Speaker 8: Hammond organ isn't exactly the easiest thing to like carry
Speaker 8: around with you. Oh, I'm just going to put it
Speaker 8: in the case, tuck it under my arm. And no,
Speaker 8: the only weigh about two and a half tons. You
Speaker 8: need the Leslie speaker with the rotating and anywhere that's
Speaker 8: another ton and a half or something like that. So yeah, no,
Speaker 8: if they don't have one at the studio, you're not
Speaker 8: going to use one. So they didn't, and the only
Speaker 8: available keyboard that they had was a harpsichord of all things. Now,
Speaker 8: the song that they were doing was called for Your Love,
Speaker 8: and that harpsichord became the songs like signature sound if
Speaker 8: you know the song, you know the beginning, and that's
Speaker 8: Brian Auger anyway. Later the same year, Auger formed a
Speaker 8: group called steam Packet, a group that included British blues
Speaker 8: legend long John Baldry, a vocalist named Julie Driscoll, Julie Driscoll,
Speaker 8: and another singer named Rod Stewart. Yes that Rod Stewart.
Speaker 8: Now Stuart would actually leave the band shortly after and
Speaker 8: Steam Packett would break up, and no official recordings were
Speaker 8: really ever made by steam Packett due to contractual problems
Speaker 8: at the time, but they did record a number of
Speaker 8: tracks for promotional use, like to get gigs and stuff
Speaker 8: like that, and they have since been commercially released. Now
Speaker 8: after Steam Packett, Augur and Julie Driscoll formed a band
Speaker 8: called Trinity, and their cover of a Bob Dylan song
Speaker 8: called This Wheels on Fire reached number five on the
Speaker 8: UK Pop charts, and they also appeared in the US
Speaker 8: on The Monkeys NBCTV special called thirty three and a
Speaker 8: third Revolutions per Monkey. In nineteen sixty nine. So let's
Speaker 8: go to nineteen seventy. Auger formed his jazz fusion group
Speaker 8: called Brian Auger's Oblivion Express, and the following year, the
Speaker 8: band released their eponymously titled LP, with the leadoff track
Speaker 8: Dragon Song that We're going to hear in about a minute.
Speaker 8: The song was written by guitarist John McLaughlin and appeared
Speaker 8: on mclachlin's nineteen seventy LP Devotion, an album that featured
Speaker 8: Buddy Miles on drums. Now, of course, McLaughlin would later
Speaker 8: form the Mahavish New Orchestra, and Buddy Miles was already
Speaker 8: known for his association with the great Jimmy Hendrix. Now,
Speaker 8: along with Augur on keyboards and guitarist Jim Mohen, the
Speaker 8: Oblivion Expressed roster included at different times two different drummers,
Speaker 8: Robbie McIntosh and Steve Faron, both of whom would go
Speaker 8: on to become members again at different times of the
Speaker 8: Average White Band, and Faren would later become a member
Speaker 8: of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers as well. Well, let's
Speaker 8: pause right here and give a listen to this hypnotic track,
Speaker 8: the Dragon Song by Brian Augury's.
Speaker 6: Coas Ann and Am.
Speaker 8: Yeah. I bought that record pretty much right after it
Speaker 8: came out, right after I hit high school, so it yeah,
Speaker 8: I lost a lot of brain cells listening to that song.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's very hypnotic to me. It's also very frenetic,
Speaker 8: not unlike me either, so you know. Yeah, No, I've
Speaker 8: always liked that one. And now Brian Auger would go
Speaker 8: on over the years to pretty much play with just
Speaker 8: about everybody over in England. He really never got across
Speaker 8: to America except maybe for that Monkey Show, but he
Speaker 8: was well respected in England. When we were talking during
Speaker 8: the song, I think, Gail you mentioned it sounded like
Speaker 8: Emerson Lake and Palmer, which yes, yeah, and it was
Speaker 8: right around the same time. I think this had a
Speaker 8: little more jazzy stuff to it. And of course Emerson
Speaker 8: Lake and Palmer. You know, they took over America and
Speaker 8: that's a whole nother story.
Speaker 10: Yes they did, and that brings me way back to
Speaker 10: my youth.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, well, well I can only continue here, like
Speaker 8: I'm getting ahead of myself. Brian Alger released tons of records,
Speaker 8: he was nominated for a Grammy Award, and as of
Speaker 8: this taping, he still remains active at the age of
Speaker 8: eighty five, and I did get a chance to see
Speaker 8: him perform, not with the Oblivion Express, but with a band,
Speaker 8: and that was probably way back in late nineteen seventy four,
Speaker 8: sometime at the legendary New York City venue The bottom Line,
Speaker 8: which was like a small little club that is sadly
Speaker 8: no longer there. I think he got bought up by
Speaker 8: NYU and turned into dorms like everything else around there.
Speaker 8: But I did get to see ELP too at that point. Again,
Speaker 8: I went prepared, I'll just put it that way. I
Speaker 8: went prepared for that, and I thought they were from
Speaker 8: out of space. That's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 7: Nice, that's a good one because you could you could
Speaker 7: sit back and relax and listen to it, or like
Speaker 7: if you wanted to be the music student and try
Speaker 7: to pick everything out and see how complicated you know
Speaker 7: what I mean, So you could really spend some energy
Speaker 7: on it, or you could chill. Do me, I picked
Speaker 7: everything out when I was a kid, because nowadays you
Speaker 7: go on YouTube and watch smorials.
Speaker 3: Wait when you listen to that song just now.
Speaker 7: Just now, Oh, I was chilling. I put my brain
Speaker 7: in first gear idol and just laid.
Speaker 8: Back, just ride the music. Yes, yeah, now that and
Speaker 8: it does have that kind of serpentine that riff is like,
Speaker 8: that's the hypnotic part that I think in the song,
Speaker 8: and it does you know? It is like a dragon
Speaker 8: or some sort of serpent, you know, riding the waves.
Speaker 8: I don't know. It's just it's cool. That's all I'm
Speaker 8: going to say.
Speaker 7: So they agreed. Awesome, good one, Barbara, you are up?
Speaker 9: Okay?
Speaker 13: Well, my song choice this week is called Life Is
Speaker 13: Safer when You're Sleeping and it's by a band called
Speaker 13: Barnes and Barnes. Has anyone ever heard of Barnes and Barnes.
Speaker 7: Don't they get you the largest settlement for your injury?
Speaker 9: Does anybody know what Barns is famous for?
Speaker 8: I buy all my books there. Oh that's Barnes and Noble.
Speaker 11: Very good girl, eat them up?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Perhaps really?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah yes, But Barnes and Barnes wrote it.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 13: They formed in nineteen seventy by members Robert Hamer and
Speaker 13: some dude named Bill Mooney.
Speaker 9: Has anybody ever heard of this guy?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Anybody know what he's famous for?
Speaker 8: The cornfield?
Speaker 13: Ye exactly, sending people to the cornfield, among other things.
Speaker 13: And honestly, on my birthday he'll say things to me
Speaker 13: on Facebook like have a real good birthday and then
Speaker 13: it's like, okay, sure, Bill, thanks so Robert Hamer and
Speaker 13: Bill Moomey.
Speaker 9: In case you don't know, Bill.
Speaker 13: Moomy was also in Lost Space Babylon five, A bunch
Speaker 13: of Yes.
Speaker 9: He's very receptive on Facebook.
Speaker 13: If you want to have a conversation with him, I'll
Speaker 13: answer questions because the dork in me asked him which
Speaker 13: season of Loss and Space did he like best?
Speaker 9: As far as costumes, So yeah, so he so.
Speaker 13: Bill and Robert were childhood friends and classmates way back
Speaker 13: in during their childhood in California, they began to write
Speaker 13: and record original novelty songs, and in nineteen seventy eight
Speaker 13: sent two of their songs to Doctor Demento, namely Boogie
Speaker 13: Woo Boogie Boogie, Amputee Mao Wow and Fishheads. So both
Speaker 13: songs did receive airplay, and Fishheads went on to become
Speaker 13: the most requested song on the Doctor Demento show. And
Speaker 13: over the years they branched out into recording non novelty
Speaker 13: mainstream tracks as well, and Life Is Safer when You're
Speaker 13: Sleeping is one of them. It was included on their
Speaker 13: nineteen eighty four album called Amazing Adult Fantasy and features
Speaker 13: Robert Hamer on lead vocals. It's a good example of
Speaker 13: a darker persona with themes of lost, regret, and death,
Speaker 13: the exact opposite of most of his contributions to Barnes
Speaker 13: and Barns, which were lighthearted, lighthearted and nonsensical. So let's
Speaker 13: listen to it, let's get hypnotized, and we'll discuss further afterwards.
Speaker 14: Life is so much safer when you're sleeping.
Speaker 15: Why don't you lay down and stay? The life be
Speaker 15: so much.
Speaker 5: Save when you.
Speaker 15: Why don't lay down?
Speaker 6: Let's say, life be so much safer when your s.
Speaker 16: Hm.
Speaker 15: Why don't you lay talent? Say in.
Speaker 4: Weary on the ground.
Speaker 6: Well, the day.
Speaker 17: I sign.
Speaker 6: You not dream a travel all away?
Speaker 15: He shot a stay. Life be so much said when
Speaker 15: your sleep?
Speaker 6: Me and why don't you lay talans.
Speaker 15: Like me so much safer and witness sleep? Why don't
Speaker 15: she lay talent.
Speaker 6: Stay a Mormon? Come he will need to die?
Speaker 18: Little me a O.
Speaker 15: We are love.
Speaker 6: Never cool, never cold?
Speaker 4: Like it so much safer when you sleep? So god
Speaker 4: chy talents?
Speaker 14: Okay?
Speaker 13: So Bill Mumi and Robert Hamer had a very intense
Speaker 13: fifty five year personal relationship. Sometimes their musical style would
Speaker 13: be to go back and forth in a kind of
Speaker 13: musical conversation, evident in song titles such as Won't You
Speaker 13: Sing to Me? Robert Hamer and I Love Billy Moomy
Speaker 13: So Much. Hamer often hosted Facebook live events where all
Speaker 13: kinds of music and shenanigans took place, and he did
Speaker 13: this right up until his illness and untimely death in
Speaker 13: March of twenty twenty three. Bill Mumi was the one
Speaker 13: who revealed Hamer's passing on social media via a Facebook post,
Speaker 13: which I actually thought was a joke until I read
Speaker 13: the whole thing. Bill still makes music. He has toured
Speaker 13: with the cow Stills in America, and every Monday morning
Speaker 13: he also does a Facebook live called the Monday Morning
Speaker 13: Moomie Music Moment.
Speaker 9: And it's fun. You should listen to it. And there
Speaker 9: you have it.
Speaker 7: I thought that was creepy. I thought that was a
Speaker 7: guy in my ear going come on over, you'll be.
Speaker 3: Fine, really, come over and sleep in mind.
Speaker 19: Yeah, just sleep, there's nothing going on, there's nothing wrong.
Speaker 19: We locked the door from the outside for safety.
Speaker 13: That quickly turns into the calls are coming from inside
Speaker 13: the house.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 7: Yeah. One person's hypnosis is another one's creep out. I
Speaker 7: suppose I guess I'm the only one. All right, Thank you, Barbara.
Speaker 7: We're gonna take a quick break and be back with
Speaker 7: Gail's pick right after this. Hudson River Radio. Your dog
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Speaker 11: This concludes the first part of this cassette.
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Speaker 7: Ah Y, and welcome back. And tonight's topic was Gail's idea.
Speaker 7: So I am looking forward to hearing what Gail has
Speaker 7: picked for us.
Speaker 10: Okay, thank you, Brian. So As I mentioned before, I
Speaker 10: was striving to work and I listened to a public
Speaker 10: radio station on my way to and from work, and
Speaker 10: I heard a song that I've heard before, but it
Speaker 10: kind of grabbed my attention and I thought, wow, this
Speaker 10: song is hypnotic.
Speaker 11: The song I chose is by the Cars Now.
Speaker 10: They were an American rock band and they formed in
Speaker 10: Boston in nineteen seventy six, emerging from the new wave
Speaker 10: scene in the.
Speaker 11: Late nineteen seventies.
Speaker 10: They were Rick Okaysick on rhythm guitar, Benjamin Orr on
Speaker 10: bass guitar, Elliott Easton on lead guitar, Greg Hawks on
Speaker 10: keyboards and David Robinson on drums. The guys who shared
Speaker 10: lead vocals were Rick Okasick and mister Orr, and Okaysick
Speaker 10: was the band's principal songwriter and lee. They were named
Speaker 10: the Best New Artist in nineteen seventy eight in the
Speaker 10: Rolling Stone Reader's poll. The band's debut album, The Cars
Speaker 10: Good Name for It sold six million copies and appeared
Speaker 10: on the Billboard two hundred album chart for one hundred
Speaker 10: and thirty nine weeks. The Cars had four top ten hits,
Speaker 10: hits shake It Up nineteen eighty one, you Might Think
Speaker 10: from nineteen eighty four, Drive also from nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 10: and Tonight She Comes from nineteen eighty five. They won
Speaker 10: the Video of the Year award for it You Might
Speaker 10: Think at the first MTV Video Music Awards in nineteen
Speaker 10: eighty four.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a big deal, that video with the
Speaker 7: mix of cartoon and Yeah.
Speaker 10: I just always loved their music. It's just a resonated
Speaker 10: as they say. The Cars disbanded in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 10: Benjamin Orr died in two thousand from pancreatic cancer at
Speaker 10: the far too young age of fifty three. In two
Speaker 10: thousand and seven, Easton and Hawks joined Todd Rungren and
Speaker 10: others to form the offshoot band The New Cars. Why
Speaker 10: don't I remember that this.
Speaker 7: Is too much they did. I think they did a
Speaker 7: ten date tour or something like that, just like a
Speaker 7: real quick kind of one and done.
Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, so okay. So they formed the band The
Speaker 10: New Cars. Then the surviving original members of The Cars
Speaker 10: reunited in twenty ten to record the band's seventh and
Speaker 10: final album, which was called Move Like This, and that
Speaker 10: was released in May of twenty eleven. Following a short
Speaker 10: tour in some port of the album, the band once
Speaker 10: again went on hiatus. In April twenty eighteen, the Cars
Speaker 10: were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Speaker 10: and reunited to perform at the induction ceremony. Rick Okaysick
Speaker 10: died of cardiovascular disease in September fifteenth of twoenty nineteen,
Speaker 10: at the age of seventy five. Now the song that
Speaker 10: I Chose was off their first album, and It's called
Speaker 10: Moving in Stereo. It was released in nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 10: Oh my Gosh, the year I graduated high school, talk
Speaker 10: about Memories. It was co written by Rick Okasik and
Speaker 10: the keyboard player Greg Hawkes.
Speaker 11: And sung by bassist Benjamin Or let's have.
Speaker 18: To talk a little.
Speaker 11: We're about it after we hear.
Speaker 18: It like you.
Speaker 15: Instead likes to sing except over my.
Speaker 5: Shoes, like to say shaken, like.
Speaker 17: Travel like just sing.
Speaker 5: It's all inside.
Speaker 20: It's sos to doble your problems. It's so easy to
Speaker 20: play your breakdown. It's so easy to try to a window.
Speaker 20: It's so easy with the sound.
Speaker 21: M so ta.
Speaker 2: Together, so ta, so ta.
Speaker 15: Together, so tafone you.
Speaker 6: Say the billy stay, that's the same step, the sooner,
Speaker 6: that's the same like you say.
Speaker 22: It like.
Speaker 6: That gets out said back?
Speaker 22: Yes, nice, I like that, And I just I just decided,
Speaker 22: just now, I wish I were able to write a
Speaker 22: musical because I think at least that song and the
Speaker 22: song that Barbara.
Speaker 10: Chose would make great songs to be in the same musical.
Speaker 10: But I have to think about that kind of a
Speaker 10: lot more.
Speaker 1: That would be a challenging plot to write to connect
Speaker 1: those things.
Speaker 18: Oh but I come into my locked room and listen
Speaker 18: to stereo music, You'll be fine.
Speaker 3: Se Brian's already written it for you.
Speaker 18: There you go.
Speaker 11: I think anyway it makes it sound.
Speaker 10: I'll take the sugar Cube with the green stuff dripped
Speaker 10: on it. M that's older and more.
Speaker 3: Classic and not legal either.
Speaker 10: They have one now, they have it now that is legal,
Speaker 10: and they I guess they whatever.
Speaker 11: I guess they took the wormwood out of it or whatever.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and now all the fun stuff is legal and
Speaker 8: I don't need it anymore.
Speaker 10: I'm upset about that, so anyway, Moving in Stereo received
Speaker 10: airplay on album oriented rock radio stations in the US,
Speaker 10: often coupled with the song All Mixed Up, which it
Speaker 10: segues into on the album. Although not released as a
Speaker 10: single except in the UK, where it was the B
Speaker 10: side of My Best Friend's Girlfriend, the song continues to
Speaker 10: receive airplay on classic rock radio stations, which is how
Speaker 10: I heard it again.
Speaker 11: Donald A.
Speaker 10: Guarisco of AllMusic described the song as one of those
Speaker 10: Car's finest experimental tracks, noting that it sounds like a
Speaker 10: new wave update of the Brian Eno era Roxy music.
Speaker 10: Classic rock history critic Brian Kachegian rated Moving in Stereo
Speaker 10: combined with All Mixed Up, as released on the albums,
Speaker 10: as the Car's all time greatest song. Classic rock history
Speaker 10: critic Emily Fagan rated it as the Car's seventh seventh
Speaker 10: best song sung by ORR, saying that it captures a
Speaker 10: sense of disorientation and anwui with or delivering lyrics that
Speaker 10: seem to drift between.
Speaker 11: Reality and a dream like stage. And last, but not.
Speaker 10: Least, Ultimate Classic Rock critic Dave Swanson rated it as
Speaker 10: the fourth best Benjamin or Cars song, saying that the
Speaker 10: atmospheric mood of the track puts the listener in a
Speaker 10: late night, post psychedelic haze. And I find it interesting
Speaker 10: that these critics said that, because I had never thought
Speaker 10: of that song before as being hypnotic, but it struck
Speaker 10: me that way when I heard it on the way
Speaker 10: home recently.
Speaker 7: I can see that being calming while you're in traffic. Yeah,
Speaker 7: give you something to focus on. And I could see.
Speaker 10: That it did something to my brain waves, which was
Speaker 10: a good thing at the time.
Speaker 7: Good, all right, I like it. Neil think.
Speaker 10: I think Neil knows something about part.
Speaker 7: Of Neil knows something about everything somehow.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think all What I was mentioning was that
Speaker 8: Dave Robinson, the drummer, was originally with Jonathan Richmond and
Speaker 8: the Modern Lovers, another Boston band, And if memory serves me,
Speaker 8: that the cars were also I think came out of Boston, Yes, yes,
Speaker 8: which is actually quite a you know, quite a rock
Speaker 8: and roll. Of course New York is number one, but
Speaker 8: Boston would be a close second. Maybe San Francisco or
Speaker 8: La but right up there with all those bands.
Speaker 11: So yeah, very cool, thank you cool.
Speaker 7: I did get to meet ric Ocasek and his then
Speaker 7: wife Paulina years ago. They were as nice as could be.
Speaker 7: I just had to throw that in there.
Speaker 3: Because was she as beautiful in person?
Speaker 7: She's a supermodel. Wasn't your supermodel? You're a supermodel? So yes, okay, yeah,
Speaker 7: yeah that was They really were as nice as could be.
Speaker 7: You know, we didn't. I didn't fawn boy all over,
Speaker 7: fanboy all over. It was just you know, nice, nice
Speaker 7: to meet you all, a nice little chat and oh
Speaker 7: so it was cool. All right, thank you, Gail, Jess,
Speaker 7: what do you have for us?
Speaker 1: So the moment Gail announced the topic, I knew exactly
Speaker 1: which album I wanted to pull the song from. I
Speaker 1: just wasn't exactly sure which song. So the album is
Speaker 1: Shares It's a Man's World, and I ultimately went with
Speaker 1: the fifth track on the album called Angel's Running. So
Speaker 1: this was SHARE's twenty first studio album. It was originally
Speaker 1: released November sixth, nineteen ninety five, on WEA, which is
Speaker 1: a label of Warner Music UK, so that was the
Speaker 1: UK release. The US release happened the following year, on
Speaker 1: June twenty fifth, nineteen ninety six, on the label Reprise Records.
Speaker 1: The album peaked at number ten in the UK. It
Speaker 1: did not do quite as well in the U. It
Speaker 1: didn't sort of gain the popularity that it did in
Speaker 1: the UK. It was certified gold by the British Phonographic
Speaker 1: Industry because it sold over one hundred thousand coffees. The
Speaker 1: genre is considered soul pop, and the album followed Share
Speaker 1: signing with Warner Music UK, which she did in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four, and the album was recorded in London in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five. When the US version was released in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, it included eleven of the fourteen songs
Speaker 1: on the original British album. Songs that were removed include
Speaker 1: I Wouldn't treat a dog the way You treated Me,
Speaker 1: Don't Come Around Tonight, and Shape of Things To Come.
Speaker 1: The US album also remixed five of the songs that
Speaker 1: were on the original album. For the US release, with
Speaker 1: more of an R and B influence compared to the
Speaker 1: original southern rock and blues genre that was done on
Speaker 1: the original album, including the song Angel's Running. I actually
Speaker 1: tried to find a copy of the British version of
Speaker 1: the song because I've as far as I know, I've
Speaker 1: only heard the one that we're going to hear today,
Speaker 1: and I've never heard it like differently.
Speaker 7: Well, it's on the other side of the road. You're
Speaker 7: looking in the wrong spot.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I won't drive over there. We have a
Speaker 1: trip coming up soon, we have we have family over there,
Speaker 1: and I like, nope, not not.
Speaker 9: Touch in the car.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 9: You can show for me, Thank you very much.
Speaker 7: Are you getting on a double decker? I have to
Speaker 7: get on a double decker.
Speaker 1: The song was originally written by Patty Larkin, which is
Speaker 1: actually so. The song is actually the title of her album,
Speaker 1: which she released in nineteen ninety three, and she had
Speaker 1: an American tour following the uh following the release of
Speaker 1: that song. So overall, the album is a collection of
Speaker 1: covers originally recorded by male singers, as well as some
Speaker 1: original pop tunes. Her vocals have been described by critics
Speaker 1: as restrained and subtle as compared to some of her
Speaker 1: other music. It was very Deep South influenced. My favorite
Speaker 1: version of Walking in Memphis is Shar's version. So like,
Speaker 1: every time I hear the song starts to come on
Speaker 1: the radio, I'll like get excited and then be like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, this isn't SHARE's version.
Speaker 9: I don't think I've ever heard it on the radio.
Speaker 1: I think I've only ever heard it on the album,
Speaker 1: which I had on CD. Of course that was the
Speaker 1: era of that. So let's see if you guys find
Speaker 1: it as hypnotic exciting.
Speaker 23: Well, I heard enough, and I've seen enough, and I
Speaker 23: know enough.
Speaker 15: To know.
Speaker 23: A no good thing when I see it, and it's
Speaker 23: a bad thing to let go. Well, I've beard around,
Speaker 23: I beyond up and down until I bear.
Speaker 9: Din of control. With your world.
Speaker 23: All in motion, you gotta put a ball and shade
Speaker 23: of your soul, all those angels running, picking up the pieces,
Speaker 23: putting back together.
Speaker 5: Her heart's broke.
Speaker 23: Long ago, a noo bood thing. When I see it,
Speaker 23: it's a bad.
Speaker 5: Thing to let go.
Speaker 6: It will always be lovers with boarders.
Speaker 7: Of their own.
Speaker 23: You made charge of gross in the Golden chariot, but
Speaker 23: you will never.
Speaker 19: Be at home, so I have dreams.
Speaker 23: Like to start older, I.
Speaker 5: Had home black of on her.
Speaker 15: This is nothing.
Speaker 23: Listening perfect in a less stale, perfect world. All those
Speaker 23: angels from me became of the pieces putting back together
Speaker 23: her hearts broke long ago and do a good thing.
Speaker 23: When I see it, it's a bad thing to let her.
Speaker 23: All those angels Romney making up the pieces putting back together.
Speaker 23: Heartsp long ago and no good thing when I see it.
Speaker 23: It's a bad thing to let go. It's a bad
Speaker 23: thing to let go.
Speaker 5: It's a bad thing.
Speaker 1: Share is just such an incredible artist who has changed
Speaker 1: so much over the years. When you think back to
Speaker 1: her original sunny and Share days, and then you know
Speaker 1: her days on the TV show like Afternoon Spotlight thing
Speaker 1: to her time as an actress. I still love the
Speaker 1: movie Moonstruck. It's it's absolutely one of my favorites. And
Speaker 1: then to beyond this album, her next project was her
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight smash hit Believe, which I'm sure we've
Speaker 1: probably all heard more times than we would care to,
Speaker 1: so a lot of us are familiar with that stuff.
Speaker 1: But one interesting tidbit that I picked up going through
Speaker 1: some of this stuff was that. In the sixties, she
Speaker 1: released a soul album that was titled thirty six fourteen
Speaker 1: or three six one four. However, you want to say
Speaker 1: six Jackson Highway, Brian, any idea forty.
Speaker 7: Six fourteen Jackson Highway is the Muscle Show sound studio?
Speaker 7: Of course, of course it is. And that record was
Speaker 7: their first major gig for the Swampers when they branched
Speaker 7: out on their own, and her record was a flop
Speaker 7: and did not sell.
Speaker 1: I had never heard of it.
Speaker 7: The sheriff fan never heard of it. There you go.
Speaker 7: In fact, on that record, on the cover it says
Speaker 7: thirty six fourteen Jackson Highway. That was superimposed. You know,
Speaker 7: when they designed the building didn't have that sign on it.
Speaker 7: The graphics put it on there for the album cover,
Speaker 7: and then after they did that, they said that's a
Speaker 7: good idea, and they had a sign made up that's
Speaker 7: that thirty six fourteen. So the sign that's on the
Speaker 7: building is a knockoff of the album cover, which was fake.
Speaker 3: So when an album comes out and bombs, it isn't
Speaker 3: always bad. Has anybody heard anything from it?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 7: Now people listen to it and they say, well, this
Speaker 7: shouldn't have bombed. But it was you know, the story
Speaker 7: goes showed up. Sonny was still hanging on and would
Speaker 7: get in the way, so they would keep trying to
Speaker 7: find things for Sonny to do, you know, go get
Speaker 7: the hot water kind of things to get them out
Speaker 7: of everybody's hair. And you know, so and it was
Speaker 7: their first big contract, their first big gig, so I
Speaker 7: think it was kind of new for everybody's. Share was
Speaker 7: out on her own, so it was kind of new
Speaker 7: for her, and so a lot of moving parts, and
Speaker 7: I'm sure the record didn't get the promotion that it
Speaker 7: would have if it was a Sonny and Share record,
Speaker 7: you know, one of those kind of things. So but yeah,
Speaker 7: it's out there, you can get it.
Speaker 1: And actually, that's a great segue into the final thing
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to mention. I was always curious
Speaker 1: as to why the album was called It's a Man's World.
Speaker 1: All I could find about that is one of the
Speaker 1: songs on the album is a cover of the James
Speaker 1: Brown classic. But you know, one of the things that
Speaker 1: Share has contributed is definitely, you know, female empowerment. And
Speaker 1: so before we move on to our next song, I
Speaker 1: just want to share with you a very brief clip
Speaker 1: from an interview that she did several years ago. And
Speaker 1: I hope that it inspires you as much as it
Speaker 1: does me.
Speaker 10: You said, a man is not a necessity.
Speaker 9: A man is a luxury like dessert.
Speaker 16: Yeah, a man is absolutely not necessity.
Speaker 13: Did you mean that to sound mean and bitter?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 16: Not at all. I adore dessert.
Speaker 9: I love man.
Speaker 16: I think men are the coolest, but you don't really
Speaker 16: need them to live. My mom said to me, you know, sweetheart,
Speaker 16: one day you should settle down and marry a rich man.
Speaker 16: And I said, Mom, I am a rich man. You know,
Speaker 16: my experience with men is great because I pick them
Speaker 16: because I like them. I don't need them.
Speaker 1: So I hope we all take a sense of inspiration
Speaker 1: from that, despite the title of the album, and I
Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed it as much as I did.
Speaker 7: All right, Well, next time you need a jar open
Speaker 7: to you're on your own.
Speaker 1: They have tools for that, now, Yes.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're called men.
Speaker 11: Are you saying men or tools?
Speaker 7: I'm not saying anything anymore.
Speaker 8: I've don't. I don't think it was complimentary though, I know.
Speaker 7: Okay, we're going to pull the escape plug and leave
Speaker 7: now and take a quick break. Thank you, Jess. That
Speaker 7: was good. Actually, I like that one. I'm not like
Speaker 7: Share is legit. I'm not knocking her, but she's not
Speaker 7: always my cup of tea. But that was actually a
Speaker 7: good one. And I think, like you said, there was
Speaker 7: that southern kind of influence.
Speaker 1: I think that's well the album is, like I feel
Speaker 1: like the whole album is has that like sort of hypnotic,
Speaker 1: almost ethereal kind of feel, and it's just it's really
Speaker 1: enjoyable and I feel like you could do meditation.
Speaker 9: To it all day long.
Speaker 7: Nice. All right, we are going to take one more
Speaker 7: quick break and we have two more selections to go,
Speaker 7: so stick around. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 7: And welcome back, Mercedes. What do you have for us tonight?
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I want to talk a little bit about
Speaker 3: why I picked this track for this show. When we
Speaker 3: first talked about this topic, I scribbled down in Agatta
Speaker 3: Davida rate minds right now, that's right, Incense and Peppermints
Speaker 3: and Halo of Flies by Alice Cooper, the first two
Speaker 3: we have already talked about on the show, and I
Speaker 3: tend to be a little Alice heavy, I thought I
Speaker 3: should creep looking. I did think of sounds as Silence
Speaker 3: by Disturbed, but.
Speaker 7: That's such a great version, awesome.
Speaker 3: But Gale did play that for us on another show.
Speaker 3: So when I think of a hypnotic song, I think
Speaker 3: of one that takes you for a ride, one that
Speaker 3: when its first notes start playing, you just have to
Speaker 3: stop whatever you're doing and listen, and you would never
Speaker 3: think to turn it off before it's over, or let
Speaker 3: people talk over it for that matter. It often gives
Speaker 3: you chills. For me, it usually starts with a slow
Speaker 3: build and eventually increases intensity and it just sort of
Speaker 3: flows over you like warm water. You might not even
Speaker 3: like the song that much, but it just does something
Speaker 3: to you at a molecular level. I remember once in
Speaker 3: high school when Stairway to Heaven was everywhere and I
Speaker 3: just didn't.
Speaker 11: Really like it.
Speaker 3: And then one night I woke up at about three
Speaker 3: am and I went to the kitchen and I was
Speaker 3: sitting there looking out the window at the moon, and
Speaker 3: my mother always had the radio on, and Stairway to
Speaker 3: Heaven came on, and I just sat there mesmerized, and
Speaker 3: I thought, oh my god, I get it. The song
Speaker 3: I picked for the show today sends me into a trance.
Speaker 3: It also starts with a slow build and increases in intensity.
Speaker 9: I have to.
Speaker 3: Admit I never really paid that much attention to the
Speaker 3: words because the feeling wasn't about the words. I'm not
Speaker 3: much of an instrumental music type person, and while the
Speaker 3: song does have words, it's really about the instruments for me.
Speaker 3: The song I'm talking about is Low Spark of High
Speaker 3: Heeled Boys by Traffic. Neil's wife is a mega Steve
Speaker 3: Winwood fan and I wish you were here, but I
Speaker 3: know that Neil is also a fanic and fill in
Speaker 3: anything that I leave out. Traffic was an English rock
Speaker 3: band formed in Birmingham, I should say is right No
Speaker 3: was was was in nineteen sixty seven by Steve Winwood,
Speaker 3: Jim Capaldi, Chris Wood and Dave Mason. They began as
Speaker 3: a psychedelic rock group and diversified their sound through the
Speaker 3: use of instruments such as various types of keyboards, sitar
Speaker 3: and various reed instruments, and by incorporating jazz and improvisational
Speaker 3: tech techniques in their music. Traffic broke up in nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty nine and Windwood co formed the supergroup Blind Faith.
Speaker 3: They broke up in nineteen seventy and Winwood, Jim Capaldi,
Speaker 3: and Chris Wood reformed Traffic. They released the LP Low
Speaker 3: Spark of High Heeled Boys in nineteen seventy one, and
Speaker 3: it went platinum in the US. The title song became
Speaker 3: popular on FM album oriented radio. It was not played
Speaker 3: on AM because it's a whopping eleven minutes and forty
Speaker 3: four seconds long, and it was never released as a single.
Speaker 3: We're not even going to get to play it all here,
Speaker 3: so sorry, you'll have to go find it on your own.
Speaker 3: According to Wikipedia, it begins with a gradual fade in
Speaker 3: and ends with a slow fade out. The signature two
Speaker 3: chord piano vamp enters after the fade in, cued by
Speaker 3: the dry rasp of a fibrous slap. YEP versus are
Speaker 3: sparsely arranged with a slow, deliberate pace in D minor,
Speaker 3: contrasting with the double double time density layered pop choruses
Speaker 3: modulating to D major. The tune fades out with a dissonant,
Speaker 3: reverberating final chord sustained over the vamp. Now, I don't
Speaker 3: know much about what's going on there but I do
Speaker 3: know the chords, and I do know that something in
Speaker 3: there is dreamy, at least for me. I'm sure Brian can.
Speaker 11: Tell us about all about that.
Speaker 3: Apparently Capaldi had originally written only two verses of lyrics.
Speaker 3: He quickly wrote the third verse while Winwood was recording
Speaker 3: the song's vocal and slipped it in front of him
Speaker 3: in time to sing it.
Speaker 11: That's super impressive to me.
Speaker 3: Steve Winwood still plays his song in all all of
Speaker 3: his live shows.
Speaker 8: Deil pretty much pretty much.
Speaker 6: I've seen him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's take a trip with those high heeled boys.
Speaker 11: If you see something that lifts up the star.
Speaker 15: And it's shooting up put off the.
Speaker 14: Ground, and your head is bedding from a loud git talk.
Speaker 15: And you just can't escape from the.
Speaker 2: Sound, don't worry too much.
Speaker 22: It will happen to you.
Speaker 21: We are children once playing with toys, and nothing like
Speaker 21: you're hearing is on the sound of the lorst box.
Speaker 14: Happy boy, the per sentence you're playing the hide rice
Speaker 14: while you're leving beyond all your means.
Speaker 5: Then the man in the suit.
Speaker 9: Has just bought a new car from.
Speaker 15: The property's married on your green.
Speaker 21: But you w can't swear that the man is shocking.
Speaker 21: I have done that didn't make any nice, but it
Speaker 21: wasn't the more that the lading to rest was the
Speaker 21: last stock of hard boy.
Speaker 3: So obviously we didn't hear the whole thing, but I
Speaker 3: highly recommend it if you get a chance. If you
Speaker 3: don't know the song, which you probably do. There are
Speaker 3: many theories about the meaning of the song, but there's
Speaker 3: two main ones. One deals with drugs and the other
Speaker 3: with the music industry. When speculation is that it could
Speaker 3: be about their agents or managers or record company people.
Speaker 3: Low spark refers to the low creativity of their high
Speaker 3: healed boys or glam bands who were popular at the time,
Speaker 3: who profit from the songwriters and musicians' dreams while the
Speaker 3: artists live way too high and beyond all their means.
Speaker 3: Some say that a high heeled boy is a reference
Speaker 3: to a speedball, which is an injectable liquid cocaine and
Speaker 3: heroin black hair. Heroin was sometimes referred to on the
Speaker 3: streets as boy, likely in reference to the derogatory way
Speaker 3: Southern slavers talk to male slaves. The opposite of boy
Speaker 3: is girl, so some say the effeminate high heeled boy
Speaker 3: refers to the mixture of cocaine and the upper and
Speaker 3: heroine the downer the lyric. But today you just read
Speaker 3: that the man was shot dead by a gun that
Speaker 3: didn't make any noise. It wasn't a bullet that laid
Speaker 3: him to rest, but the low spark of high heeled boys.
Speaker 3: This could mean that the man was shooting up a
Speaker 3: speedball injection that killed him, and injection certainly wouldn't make
Speaker 3: any noise. Lots of bands in the sixties and seventies
Speaker 3: sang about drugs, the burdens of the road, and also
Speaker 3: about the disonity of the music business, like the song
Speaker 3: I did on last week's show, I Shot My Manager
Speaker 3: by Grupo Sportivo. The title refers to an inscription written by,
Speaker 3: as they say, diminutive American actor Michael J. Pollard in
Speaker 3: Jim Capaldi's notebook. While they were both in Morocco. Capaldi
Speaker 3: and Pollard were planning to work on a movie that
Speaker 3: was never filmed. Capaldi said, Michael Pollard and I would
Speaker 3: sit around writing lyrics all day, talking about Bob Dylan
Speaker 3: and the band, thinking up ridiculous plots for the movie.
Speaker 3: Before I left Morocco, Pollard wrote in my book The
Speaker 3: Low Spark of High heeled Boys. For me, it summed
Speaker 3: him up. He had this tremendous rebel attitude. He walked
Speaker 3: around in his cowboy boots, his leather jacket. At the time,
Speaker 3: he was a heavy little dude. It seemed to sum
Speaker 3: up all the people of that generation who were just rebels.
Speaker 3: The low spark for me was the spirit, high spirited,
Speaker 3: you know, standing on a street corner, the low rider,
Speaker 3: the low spark meaning that strong undercurrent at street level.
Speaker 3: That's all a quote, so don't try to correct my english, please.
Speaker 3: One reddit post said, according to Dave Mason, it literally
Speaker 3: does not mean anything. It just sounded cool, so he
Speaker 3: said he just learned that it did Dave Mason show recently.
Speaker 3: Can't can't verify that, and you know it's a reddit. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was my hypnotic song. I hope you were hypnotized
Speaker 3: for at least a moment or two.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a good one. That does kind of put it's.
Speaker 8: A great song. Oh yeah, it's It was funny you
Speaker 8: were mentioning about the you know, writing the lyrics as
Speaker 8: he was pretty much as he was singing it with
Speaker 8: the Capaldi kind of sliding it amongst the you know,
Speaker 8: the hardcore Windwood fans. They all know that Steve has
Speaker 8: a tendency to either forget or mix up the lyrics
Speaker 8: of his songs, and they you know, and they wait
Speaker 8: for it. They wait, especially this song that he'll mix
Speaker 8: the you know, the verses. He'll mix them up and
Speaker 8: you know, start one verse and and with another one
Speaker 8: and you know, and almost sit there and take you know,
Speaker 8: like a scorecard how many times? But I don't, I
Speaker 8: don't know about well maybe later on and in their
Speaker 8: history that you know, the use of like heroin and stuff.
Speaker 8: I don't think that was really there. They had a
Speaker 8: very narcotic sound to them, but I think it was
Speaker 8: mainly uh, you know, the smokeable kind, you know, the
Speaker 8: not not the injectable or whatever kind.
Speaker 3: In fact, my interpretation of that is that he was
Speaker 3: that it was written about that, not necessarily about right.
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, yeah, because I've learned that early on too,
Speaker 8: that in there in in the you know, they had
Speaker 8: a budget. The band had a budget, and you know,
Speaker 8: and they had all the different line items and one
Speaker 8: was for apple yogurt, which was a code name for marijuana.
Speaker 8: Yeah no, yeah, it sounds gross. It was a code
Speaker 8: and yeah, so and I'm like I said, I I've
Speaker 8: seen I've seen Woodwood Now lots of times. But I
Speaker 8: actually did get to see Traffic a couple of times too.
Speaker 8: And it was in the seventies. It was, you know,
Speaker 8: the second you know, post blind Faith. The first time,
Speaker 8: I'd say it was probably in like seventy two, maybe
Speaker 8: around there, seventy one, seventy two, and I want to
Speaker 8: and it wasn't you know, they'd reformed with just the
Speaker 8: three members. There was like twenty people on stage. It
Speaker 8: was like what's they had? Everybody going on? And it
Speaker 8: was you know, they had you know, like congo players
Speaker 8: and all sorts of percussionists and whatnot. And actually that
Speaker 8: you can see that on the album cover of of
Speaker 8: Low Spark. It's like a whole a whole cast of characters.
Speaker 3: Was it good or was it was it good? Or
Speaker 3: was it started too much?
Speaker 8: It was almost too much, but it was it was good.
Speaker 8: It was. But I read or heard a story that
Speaker 8: one of the percussions Rebop at some point they were
Speaker 8: on tour and he was just like a little bit
Speaker 8: too out there with the apple yogurt and et cetera.
Speaker 8: So they kind of fired him from the band in
Speaker 8: mid tour. So they went to the next city and
Speaker 8: there he was. He showed up and they were like,
Speaker 8: what are we going to do? So yeah, so they
Speaker 8: let him, you know, and then he kept showing up
Speaker 8: like they fired him, but he kept showing up.
Speaker 7: That's what Larry David did in snl.
Speaker 8: Oh. Yeah, I guess there was some leeway there. And
Speaker 8: then I saw him again when it was it was
Speaker 8: probably their last the last album and last tour. It
Speaker 8: was nineteen seventy four, just a four piece, and that
Speaker 8: was interesting because Chris wood was he was just gone,
Speaker 8: uh you know, he was he was not he didn't
Speaker 8: even know where he was. And he had like this
Speaker 8: octave kind of octave box that he plugged his saxophone
Speaker 8: into and it would you know, add like chorus effect,
Speaker 8: you know, and make all different, you know, different effects. Anyway,
Speaker 8: so he came time for a solo, especially like you
Speaker 8: know in this uh the low spark, you know, the
Speaker 8: the main riff you know, boom boom boom, and he
Speaker 8: sat there playing with this thing and he'd like honk
Speaker 8: on the saxophone a few times, would sound really silly.
Speaker 8: He'd sit there and laugh and like try a few
Speaker 8: more things, and it was like what he and when
Speaker 8: would just at that point had the bass and drums
Speaker 8: get He just sat back, folded his arms and just
Speaker 8: stared daggers at him. Wow. And apparently that was, you know,
Speaker 8: that was the end of the band. And they did
Speaker 8: they did reform, I guess Caupouldi and Windwood in the nineties.
Speaker 8: They put together a record and they at that point
Speaker 8: Chris Wood unfortunately had succumbed to his demons, and but
Speaker 8: they they like either sampled or they copied what he
Speaker 8: used to play, so they they used some sort of
Speaker 8: you know synths, you know, synthesizer or something. So it
Speaker 8: was as close to the original as they could get
Speaker 8: at that point. And then unfortunately Caupoldi has passed away
Speaker 8: since so traffic, you know that that was the end
Speaker 8: of that. But let's say Steve Winwood and Dave Mason stuff,
Speaker 8: and they're like warring factions. They well, nobody's ever gotten
Speaker 8: along with Dave Mason from what I hear. You know,
Speaker 8: you know, he pissed off Ringo Star for Christ's sake,
Speaker 8: you know, like how kiss off Ringo Star?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 8: And his all star band. They had to kick him
Speaker 8: out because he was so annoying apparently, but but I
Speaker 8: just heard that. I'm sorry, Dave, you know. But anyway,
Speaker 8: that's the Traffic stories.
Speaker 7: I don't know if you knew. They they were working
Speaker 7: on a fourth verse that they couldn't get to Steve
Speaker 7: Winwood in time. But it started with come over and
Speaker 7: sleep in my lock base. He though, yeah, they'll vamp
Speaker 7: that every once in.
Speaker 8: A while the fans go wild, ye.
Speaker 7: But Traffic actually did only because Jess brought this up before,
Speaker 7: because I know I come back to this a lot.
Speaker 7: But Traffic has ties with Muscle Shoals Sound Studio. They
Speaker 7: like the Swampers, and they actually got them to go
Speaker 7: on tour. They hired the Swampers to go on tour
Speaker 7: with them as their backing band, and the Swampers wound
Speaker 7: up absolutely hating touring. They grew up in northern Alabama,
Speaker 7: they loved the area. They just did not have fun
Speaker 7: touring with traffic. And they realized that they were good
Speaker 7: enough that if people wanted them, they would come to
Speaker 7: their studio.
Speaker 3: And I love it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So they.
Speaker 8: Didn't have so it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't traffic
Speaker 8: per se. It was just they didn't like they didn't
Speaker 8: like the touring.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh yeah, no, Steve, Steve Wynn Wood. And then
Speaker 7: they all clicked, they all got along really well.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, But because Neil Woods a good guy, right.
Speaker 8: He's a little he's interesting. I guess I've actually got,
Speaker 8: you know, had, you know, opportunity to meet him a
Speaker 8: couple of times because my wife is a huge fan.
Speaker 3: So and I think I said mega fan, mega.
Speaker 8: Yes, that would probably be a better description. But yeah,
Speaker 8: like I said, she's totally jealous of the fact that
Speaker 8: I saw traffic at any point lit alone, you know,
Speaker 8: at all. But yeah, he's he's a little shy and retiring. Actually,
Speaker 8: you know, he's very you know, he's kind of timid almost.
Speaker 8: I think the way my wife describes it as like
Speaker 8: when you approach, it's like going, you know, sneaking up
Speaker 8: on a deer. You know that you want to spook
Speaker 8: them and they'll run. And yeah, I actually I think
Speaker 8: I did scare him once. But that's a whole nother story.
Speaker 8: I tell it real quick. It was after a show
Speaker 8: in New York and we saw him come out of
Speaker 8: the door and he was like walking down this, you know,
Speaker 8: where there were the tour buses. They were kind of
Speaker 8: end to end, and he was walking around to get
Speaker 8: to the front. And of course my wife is like,
Speaker 8: she's hot footing it all, you know, and she's never
Speaker 8: going to catch up. So I saw in between, you know,
Speaker 8: where the trailer hitch of the one bus was, you know,
Speaker 8: so I just kind of climbed up there in the middle,
Speaker 8: jumped up and I kind of jumped down and I said,
Speaker 8: he's not going to be and I jumped right in
Speaker 8: front of him. Yeah, he was like, and I was like,
Speaker 8: oh no, I'm sorry. I just wanted to I want
Speaker 8: to ask you if you could wait, you know, get
Speaker 8: an autograph from my wife. And he was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 8: just a moment, you know.
Speaker 7: I can't let me change my cataloon. I'll be right
Speaker 7: with you.
Speaker 8: Get how did you move that fast? You're like it,
Speaker 8: you know, like a shape shift or something. You know,
Speaker 8: how did you get there so quickly?
Speaker 11: Is that what he said?
Speaker 8: No, That's what I said to himself. There was no
Speaker 8: way any you know, you know, a regular human just
Speaker 8: walking in a normal speed would would get around that fast.
Speaker 8: So I figured in the moment of the past.
Speaker 7: He's trying to make a quit, quick escape. And then
Speaker 7: we got Spider Man over here, jumping over.
Speaker 8: Not not not one of my better moments, but you know, got.
Speaker 7: The job done. I'll give you that.
Speaker 3: You gotta do what you gotta do for your wife.
Speaker 7: Only quivering Steve Winwood autograph.
Speaker 8: Because yeah, yeah, but anyway.
Speaker 7: All right, yeah, that's a good one that's worth listening to,
Speaker 7: and seeing him live is definitely worth it if you
Speaker 7: get the chance. One more to go. So I had
Speaker 7: trouble with this topic. Yes, so a few months ago
Speaker 7: I wound up kind of rediscovering an old song that
Speaker 7: I used to like, and he came back because it
Speaker 7: popped up on Spotify every once in a while, they
Speaker 7: get things right. And then Gail had suggested the topic
Speaker 7: and I racked my brain. This is one that we
Speaker 7: had in advance, and you know, I was narrowing down
Speaker 7: the list. I'm like, no, it's you know, these songs
Speaker 7: are better for something else. And then I realized that,
Speaker 7: especially if I'm taking a short ride somewhere, I kind
Speaker 7: of gravitate back to this one song, and I realized, well,
Speaker 7: that's it. This is the one, you know, because it's
Speaker 7: the right length for a quick car ride, it's it's
Speaker 7: the right mood and all that. And let's see if
Speaker 7: you agree with me. The story behind this group just
Speaker 7: happens to be one of the most straightforward, uncomplicated, wholesome,
Speaker 7: trouble free success stories I think I've ever heard. I'm
Speaker 7: talking about the Bellamy brothers. I don't know if anybody's
Speaker 7: familiar with them. They're actual brothers. Homer Howard Bellamy was
Speaker 7: born in nineteen forty six. Anybody named Homer is fine
Speaker 7: with me right off the back, you were going to
Speaker 7: say that absolutely. His brother, David Milton Bellamy, was born
Speaker 7: in nineteen fifty. They are from Dade City, Florida. Their
Speaker 7: father was a big fan of country music and played
Speaker 7: it in the house all the time, and he also
Speaker 7: played in a Western swing band, and their sister was
Speaker 7: into rock and roll, so they had good exposure from
Speaker 7: a young age kind of across the spectrum, which that's
Speaker 7: the way to go with kids. Neither brother has had
Speaker 7: formal training in music. They both taught themselves the guitar,
Speaker 7: the banjo, and the mandolin. David went on to also
Speaker 7: learn the keyboard and piano. Accordion and fiddle, because I
Speaker 7: guess he had the time. Their first real gig was
Speaker 7: with their father at what was then known as the
Speaker 7: Rattlesnake Roundound up in San Antonio, Florida, not San Antonio, Texas.
Speaker 7: It's now the Rattlesnake Festival, which is an outdoor festival,
Speaker 7: and they are actually appreciative of rattlesnakes as opposed to
Speaker 7: actually rounding them up like they used to, because rattlesnakes
Speaker 7: are not evil monsters. That's a topic for another show.
Speaker 7: They focused on cover tunes, like a lot of youngsters
Speaker 7: do when they start out. They were best known locally
Speaker 7: for their version of Whiter Shade of Pale, Proclaherum and
Speaker 7: My Girl Temptations. They wound up getting booked at local
Speaker 7: dances and events. They started calling themselves the Accidents, which
Speaker 7: is an okay kind of band name. Then they changed
Speaker 7: it to the Heterogeneous Grouping, which is not.
Speaker 11: A good like.
Speaker 7: No. Imagine you're the guy that's got to put that
Speaker 7: up on the billboard one letter at a time. How
Speaker 7: many times you have to move that ladder to go
Speaker 7: all the way, and.
Speaker 3: You have to remember it long enough to get up
Speaker 3: on the ladder and actually you have to.
Speaker 7: Spell it right. You got to, you know, bring a
Speaker 7: little post it with you, stick it to your h
Speaker 7: e h.
Speaker 8: And it didn't fit on the bass drumhead, you know
Speaker 8: exactly Listen.
Speaker 10: Was that when I was in middle school there was
Speaker 10: a high school band that came to play at our
Speaker 10: dances and they were called peristalsis.
Speaker 11: Oh my yes?
Speaker 7: And where are they now?
Speaker 11: Don't know?
Speaker 7: So the group wound up getting booked around Florida and Georgia,
Speaker 7: but they did not enjoy playing the club circuit, so
Speaker 7: they moved back home. The Bellamies had written a song
Speaker 7: called Spiders and Snakes, which wound up being a hit
Speaker 7: in nineteen seventy four for Jim Stafford, who is somebody
Speaker 7: I will talk about another time. He's a TV host, singer, songwriter.
Speaker 7: He was a writer for the Smothers Brothers comedy Hour
Speaker 7: The Reboot in the nineteen eighties when they brought it back.
Speaker 7: Point being that the success of that song gave the
Speaker 7: Bellamies the money to move to Los Angeles to pursue
Speaker 7: their music career, and Howard Bellamy became Jim Stafford's road manager,
Speaker 7: So that was their big foot in the door. The
Speaker 7: Bellamy Brothers got signed to Curb Records. Their biggest hit,
Speaker 7: which is the one that we're going to hear in
Speaker 7: a little bit, is called let Your Love Flow. It
Speaker 7: was a number one hit in nineteen seventy six in
Speaker 7: the United States and more than a dozen countries around
Speaker 7: the world. The song was written by Neil Diamond's roadie
Speaker 7: Larry Williams and Neil's drummer Dennis Saint. John's connected the
Speaker 7: song with the Bellamies. Between the two, Neil Diamond had
Speaker 7: turned it down first because he didn't think it was
Speaker 7: a good fit for him. Johnny Rivers passed on it
Speaker 7: as well. Believe it or not, Howard and David recorded
Speaker 7: it using Neil Diamond's band because no bad blood between anybody,
Speaker 7: and they said it took maybe two or three takes
Speaker 7: and they were done. That was it, so they didn't
Speaker 7: have to go back and find tune everything. They just
Speaker 7: kind of nailed it. It made it onto the country
Speaker 7: chart as well, and the Bellamy Brothers really wanted to
Speaker 7: go in that direction, more of the country direction, so
Speaker 7: they had their country breakthrough with a song that was
Speaker 7: inspired by a Groucho Marx double entendre. If I said
Speaker 7: you have a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?
Speaker 11: That's me.
Speaker 7: Again, A story for another time.
Speaker 3: I can I just say that there's a Britney Spears
Speaker 3: song like that, and my kids when they heard it,
Speaker 3: they were really loving that song. And I was like,
Speaker 3: you don't even know where this skimes from.
Speaker 8: You don't even know what.
Speaker 7: Which is for the best because when they get older
Speaker 7: and they go oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, just let them enjoy the music.
Speaker 7: Let's it sit back and one day that light bulb
Speaker 7: will go bing. And agreed totally. So. The Bellamy Brothers
Speaker 7: have so far released over fifty five zero albums, which
Speaker 7: is pretty amazing. They've charted over fifty songs, with twenty
Speaker 7: of them being number one country. They had a TV
Speaker 7: show called honky Tonk Ranch that aired for three seasons.
Speaker 7: It followed them and their family around. The two brothers,
Speaker 7: their kids, and their grandkids all live on a two
Speaker 7: hundred acre ranch in Darby, Florida. They still do about
Speaker 7: two hundred shows a year all around the world. They
Speaker 7: donate a lot of time and money to charity. I
Speaker 7: couldn't find anything controversial about them, any bad stories. The
Speaker 7: only thing that even comes close. If you have a
Speaker 7: problem with this is that they partnered with a medical
Speaker 7: cannabis company to produce a line of products called Old
Speaker 7: Hippie Stash Get the double meeting. One of them has this.
Speaker 7: That's the only that's not even a negative thing anymore.
Speaker 7: I don't think you know so that is it. But
Speaker 7: this song, I think what grabbed me. It's very straightforward,
Speaker 7: very straightforward chord progressions, keeps a great beat. The baseline
Speaker 7: is what kind of grabs my attention because I'm kind
Speaker 7: of partial to that. It toes the line between like
Speaker 7: if you want a country feel great, a rock feel
Speaker 7: that's fine, if you want to sit back and be mellow,
Speaker 7: if you want to get up and move about. It's
Speaker 7: it's kind of like rides right down the middle. So
Speaker 7: depending on what mood you're in or where you want
Speaker 7: to go, the song just kind of seems to fit everything.
Speaker 7: So that's why it is my choice for a hypnotic songs.
Speaker 7: So this is Let Your Love Love by developed Me
Speaker 7: Brothers came out nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 2: Or the sound Shots God, there's a reason.
Speaker 17: Wow, I'm feeling so hot must be the season when
Speaker 17: that little life shine.
Speaker 22: It's all abound.
Speaker 17: When that feeling grab you.
Speaker 5: De inside and.
Speaker 2: Where you love.
Speaker 7: Through the moon.
Speaker 6: Just let your love.
Speaker 2: I came out the stream and let your love broad
Speaker 2: with the smarts dreams, and.
Speaker 5: Let your love show, and you'll know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's the season.
Speaker 6: Let your love flies. I came back on the fame and.
Speaker 17: Let your love.
Speaker 15: To all other.
Speaker 18: Things, and let your love.
Speaker 5: Shot, and you'll know what I mean. That's the reason.
Speaker 17: There's a reason or the one sweet slives and there's
Speaker 17: a reason or the candow lights must be the season
Speaker 17: when thows love rides shine all around us.
Speaker 2: So let that wonder take you into your space, and
Speaker 2: lady wonder, it's lovely embrass, just till the thunder as.
Speaker 5: If wants your face. If you can't hold back.
Speaker 15: Just let your love.
Speaker 5: I came out down the stream and let your love
Speaker 5: blow with the smallness of dreams, and let you love show,
Speaker 5: and you'll know what I mean. It's the season.
Speaker 6: Let your lovely lock and burn out the wing, and
Speaker 6: let you love line you do all maving things, and let.
Speaker 18: Your love shine, and you'll know what I mean.
Speaker 5: That's the reason.
Speaker 6: Just let your love.
Speaker 5: I am out down the stream.
Speaker 15: And left your lot brow with the smallest.
Speaker 5: Of dreams and left your love show. And you'll know, I.
Speaker 7: Saw the spark of recognition after the first verse kicked
Speaker 7: in that I know who didn't recognize the title?
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I thought so, But then when I heard it,
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, okay, yeah, I wasn't quite sure.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, there were some heads bob in there. So
Speaker 7: that's just it's the right length, it's the right mood
Speaker 7: to take it in any direction you kind of want
Speaker 7: to go. So I just keep coming back.
Speaker 8: As I mentioned that when this came out, it was
Speaker 8: probably the antithesis of what I was listening to at
Speaker 8: the time, But I totally understand and and and now,
Speaker 8: and you know, years later, I can see why it
Speaker 8: was like such a hit. It's like, it's like the
Speaker 8: perfect pop song really or country whatever you wanted to
Speaker 8: be exactly.
Speaker 7: It's got a little bit of everything, you know.
Speaker 10: Not only that back then on AM radio, which is
Speaker 10: what some of us were still listening to at that point.
Speaker 10: On AM radio, they were playing all different genre of music.
Speaker 10: You could hear led Zeppelin and then hear Johnny Cash,
Speaker 10: you know, which means their segues weren't very good. But
Speaker 10: but yeah, so you would hear all different genres of
Speaker 10: music on the same station.
Speaker 11: And in what year did we say?
Speaker 7: This was seventy six?
Speaker 10: Seventy six, I was sixteen years old, so you know,
Speaker 10: I was at the perfect age for that.
Speaker 11: Kind of stuff.
Speaker 7: I was two, so I didn't know who the Bellamie
Speaker 7: Brothers were.
Speaker 8: But up, you don't want to know how old.
Speaker 3: Neither?
Speaker 7: All right, Well, Gail, you made me do my homework
Speaker 7: this week, and I enjoy it. Yeah, I like this
Speaker 7: kind of stuff. Awesome. So any final thoughts or anything
Speaker 7: before we wrap it up. Everybody's going to go meditate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stay, stay hypnotic, everybody, that's right, right.
Speaker 7: You know what, Jess should come do a yoga lesson
Speaker 7: for us one of these shows. Just talk us through
Speaker 7: it and we'll put some of these songs on in
Speaker 7: the background.
Speaker 9: I don't pretend to be an instructor, you know.
Speaker 7: I don't pretend to know how to do anything. I'm
Speaker 7: just going to keep falling over and we're not going
Speaker 7: to point and laugh.
Speaker 1: There's so much work you can do without even standing up,
Speaker 1: so you don't have the option to fall over.
Speaker 11: Yeah, they have yoga, I understand.
Speaker 9: That's not.
Speaker 8: At my age. I'll you know, I try to do
Speaker 8: I'll break a hip, you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, when you say chair, the chair I have has
Speaker 7: a lever on the side. You pull it in your feet,
Speaker 7: go blink and does that count?
Speaker 8: Lazy boy exactly?
Speaker 7: I tried. All right, that's our yeah I am, that's
Speaker 7: our our signal to pull the plug and today, thank
Speaker 7: you again Gil.
Speaker 9: Leave the exercise for another time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, We'll talk about that another time. Yep. Thank you
Speaker 7: all for joining us here for the Rock and Roll
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