WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:05.559 Hudson River Radio dot Com. 2 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:14.039 Your lonely, you can always next. 3 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:16.679 This is John Fulbright, Hi, this is Jar Williams. 4 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:16.920 Hi. 5 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:18.640 This is Mitch Margle of the Tokens. 6 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:18.879 Hi. 7 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:21.199 This is Gary us bonds Man here on the Rock 8 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:22.359 and Roll History Show. 9 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:27.839 Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the Rock and Roll History 10 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:32.200 Show on Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz. I am 11 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:34.600 not even going to try to explain tonight's topic. I'm 12 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:36.399 going to leave that to the person who came up 13 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:40.320 with it. But before we hop in, allow me to 14 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:42.920 introduce all the Crambells who are joining us here tonight. 15 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:47.359 First and foremost from the Richter Observatory. He just found 16 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:50.359 out that Pink Floyd's CD comes with a built in 17 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:52.960 laser light show. You just pop it in the microwave 18 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:58.200 for a minute or two. Neil Richtor is here. What's 19 00:00:58.240 --> 00:00:58.840 going on? Neil? 20 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:01.479 Sound that sounds I like it? Yes? 21 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:02.960 Have you ever done that? 22 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:03.920 Yes? 23 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:04.920 Yes? 24 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:08.840 Yeah, No, No, I'd be afraid I'd break the microwave. 25 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:10.439 No, microwave is fine. 26 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:13.640 Well, I have listened to Pink Floyd under. 27 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:23.159 Never under microwaves microwave influence. I gotcha the ticket and 28 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:26.680 from paranormally yours. She apologized to her boss for being 29 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:29.519 late and said her car wouldn't start. Her boss asked 30 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:33.799 why not, and she said, because I wasn't in it here. 31 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.000 I actually don't have to be in my car. 32 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:43.879 Just start. After that, Yeah, I keep saying I should 33 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:45.959 get one of those. Every time it's ten degrees, I'm like, 34 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:48.200 I need a remote start. And then when it gets warmer, 35 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:50.599 I'm like, I can't be that lazy. I can't get 36 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:52.560 a remote How hard is it to walk to the car. 37 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:54.840 And then the winter comes and I'm like, I got 38 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:57.480 to get a remote start. And it's been my truck's 39 00:01:57.480 --> 00:01:58.920 ten years old at this point. 40 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:01.959 In the summer, you can use it with an air condition. 41 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:02.519 I know. 42 00:02:03.680 --> 00:02:05.519 I have an AP on my phone that does it. 43 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:06.719 Yeah, that's what I have. 44 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:08.599 Yeah, I have that. 45 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:13.159 That was great, rub it in I had all right. 46 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:16.360 From the silver screen, she saw a guy stumble into 47 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:19.520 a bar and order a drink. The bartender says, I'm sorry, 48 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:21.840 you're already wasted. I can't serve you, and the guy 49 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:24.759 stumbles out. A few minutes later, the same guy stumbles 50 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:28.039 back in and orders a drink. The bartender turns him down. 51 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:30.479 And says, you're too drunk. I can't serve you, so 52 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:33.479 the guy stumbles out. A few minutes later, the same 53 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:35.599 guy comes back in and tries to order a drink, 54 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:38.159 and the bartender says, I've already told you twice you're 55 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:40.919 too drunk and I can't serve you. And the guy asked, 56 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:46.199 how many bars do you work at? Mercedes? Kent is here? 57 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:47.000 I Mercedes. 58 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:52.120 Okay, I feel like I've done that. 59 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:56.520 That is the biggest activity in Nashville if you go downtown. 60 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:01.120 Yeah, did you hear the one about the Roman guy 61 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:06.159 that walked into kay bar and ordered Yeah, held her 62 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:09.199 five more chenis and put your fingers. 63 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:09.680 Yeah. 64 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:12.479 He held up two fingers and said five beers please. Yeah, 65 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:17.080 it's one of those. Yep, our official medical person. She 66 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:20.120 signed up for a carpenter's class. She hasn't built anything 67 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:27.080 yet because they've only just begun. Jessica is here, very cute. 68 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:29.520 I like it and have you sang it? 69 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:33.000 Yes, that's the best I can do for now. Last, 70 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:35.400 but not least, the host of shaving cream. She went 71 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:39.639 onto Oreo's website and clicked except all cookies. Now she's 72 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:42.800 just sitting back and waiting Barbaravelle is here. 73 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.080 Hi, Barb, I'm still waiting. 74 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.560 I got my milk ready, and I want my cookies 75 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:49.280 and I want them now excellently. 76 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:54.439 Hey everybody, So tonight's topic is courtesy of Gail, and 77 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:57.080 I had trouble trying to explain it, so I'm going 78 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:58.919 to let Gail explain it. 79 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:03.759 Okay, Well, this is another one of those guess what 80 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.599 Gail heard on the car radio on the way to 81 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:10.280 or from work. You've heard me say this almost every 82 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:17.920 time we do a show, and it's songs that strike 83 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:22.920 you as hypnotic. And no, I didn't go off the 84 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:26.120 road when I heard the song on the way to work, 85 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:26.720 so not. 86 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.199 Sleep inducing, something that just kind of holds your attention. 87 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:33.199 Right, which was good because I was stuck in traffic 88 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.920 on the Palisades Parkway as usual and it was horrendous. 89 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:40.800 So the song that I chose kind of calmped me down. So, yes, 90 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.519 songs that you feel are hypnotic. 91 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:48.560 Okay, sounds good. Let's see where it goes from here. Neil, 92 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:50.079 you're going to lead us off this week? 93 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:52.680 Oh thank you? Okay. Well, let me start off by 94 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:56.399 saying that, when done correctly, I think all music should 95 00:04:56.480 --> 00:05:02.439 possess a transformational hypnotic power that transports the listener into 96 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:06.000 a trance like state. Now, some are a little better 97 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:09.720 at it than others, or more conducive to that, and 98 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:14.959 especially with the use of certain recreational mood enhancers. 99 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:18.839 Shall we say, you know, but do you need the 100 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:20.000 music after that? 101 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:24.000 This can help? But well sometimes not, but that's you know, gotcha. 102 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:30.319 So the other well, the other problem I had with this, 103 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:33.680 which wasn't really a problem because I had a lot 104 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:36.399 of songs came to mind, but most of them were 105 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:42.360 a little long or very long, and again, under certain 106 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:48.600 conditions it time doesn't really matter. But one of the 107 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:52.279 first ones, of course, well, you know Pink Floyd. All 108 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:56.319 of their songs are kind of hypnotic and kind of well, 109 00:05:56.600 --> 00:06:00.319 you know, you know Pink Floyd, but particularly the their 110 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:03.360 song Echoes, which was on their nineteen seventy one album 111 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:07.240 called Metal, which clocks in at just about twenty three 112 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:09.160 and a half minutes. So I didn't think that was 113 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:13.199 too appropriate for tonight, unless, of. 114 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.319 Course, unless it's just your show. 115 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:19.079 Right right, or if we all you know, sat and 116 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:19.720 you know. 117 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:21.920 That's more of an after party hanging out. 118 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:24.319 And I sat around, you know, sat around the hookah 119 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:27.680 or something. But anyway, the other one that came to 120 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:33.800 my mind, which actually has a bit of hypnotic it's 121 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:36.800 like one of those tapes that you listen to, you know, 122 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:41.839 to fall asleep. The song was called Space Hymn and 123 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:44.560 it came out in nineteen sixty nine. The band was 124 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:49.720 called Lothar and the hand people now, who's Lothar? There 125 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:52.279 was no Lothar. It was not a person. Lothar in 126 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:55.480 this case was an instrument we've talked about here on 127 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:58.000 the Rock and Roll History Show called the theremin, which 128 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.720 is sort of like a little box like a radio antenna, 129 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.319 and you play it by moving your hand up and 130 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:07.279 down this antenna. And you've probably heard it in every 131 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:12.120 b science fiction movie ever made, so you know, you 132 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:16.839 know the So yeah, that was Lothar. Anyway, this song 133 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:20.920 Space Hymn, which clocks in at about seven minutes, It 134 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:24.360 starts off, you know, sit back, relax, and then all 135 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:27.839 of a sudden it just evolves from there and it's 136 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:32.879 definitely worth your time, as is Echoes by Pink Floyd. 137 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:37.120 By the way, Now, the granddaddy of all this came 138 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:41.319 out in nineteen sixty eight, and I'm talking about the 139 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:45.759 much unfairly maligned in a Gada da Vida by Iron 140 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:51.360 Butterfly now you know, which is about seventeen minutes long. 141 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:54.639 There is a shorter version, but it really doesn't really 142 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:55.839 get across the hole. 143 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:58.519 You have to take the quick acting version of whatever 144 00:07:58.560 --> 00:07:58.800 it is. 145 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:03.839 You're all right, I don't know. Somewhere along the line 146 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:06.680 it became like you know, that became like a musical joke. 147 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:09.399 But if you sit and listen to that, I'm sorry 148 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:11.560 that it is a masterpiece. 149 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:12.839 It's amazing. 150 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:18.240 Yes, it flows from you know, one part seamlessly into 151 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:23.680 the other, and I just think it's amazing. And from 152 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:28.040 what I understand it was the original take that they 153 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:32.360 used was actually a warm up somebody had the engineer 154 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:35.360 had the presence of mind to actually roll tape while 155 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.919 they were just going through it to warm up, and 156 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:40.200 that ended up being the best take that they had. 157 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:48.799 But anyway, yeah, that could definitely that is hypnotic, right then, 158 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:51.039 you know, you don't need to go any further than that. 159 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:54.480 But we don't have seventeen minutes here, and I guess 160 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:00.559 you could actually several of the longer doors songs, you know, 161 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:06.120 could be rather hypnotic. They're possibly arguably boring, but like 162 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:09.559 l a woman or even light my fire, it's it's repetitive. 163 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:12.240 It has a hypnotic effect, you know so. 164 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:19.679 Or some might call it rage inducing. Only I'm not 165 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:21.639 the only one who thinks the doors are terrible. 166 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:22.679 No, you're not. 167 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:26.399 Well, I'm just being subjective, Brian. I know you are. 168 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:30.440 You are the arbiter of taste for the known universe 169 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:34.759 and planets beyond. Well, just we're being subjective. 170 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:37.120 All right, fair, but they still think. 171 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:39.639 Well, they speak highly of you. 172 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:44.159 That are any of them still alive? 173 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:50.200 Couple? Anyway, I didn't go with any of those. Uh 174 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:53.639 So my choice this week is called the Dragon Song 175 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:59.919 and it's by Brian Augur's Oblivion Express Nice Now Brian L. 176 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:02.960 Gordon Auger. He was born in July nineteen thirty nine 177 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:07.440 in London, England. He's a keyboard player and a jazz 178 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:14.600 fusion pioneer. He also incorporated British pop, R and B 179 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:17.840 and soul music into his sound. Now. Auger is best 180 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:21.240 known for his primary instrument, which is the Hammond organ, 181 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:24.840 which I think we've discussed here, which brings us to 182 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:27.639 our next point. In nineteen sixty five, Auger was brought 183 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:31.159 in as a session man for the legendary British band 184 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:34.399 The Yardbirds, of course, probably best known, aside from having 185 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:38.519 very cool songs, three of the best known rock guitarists ever, 186 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:42.399 Jimmy Page, Eric Lapton and Jeff Beck in and out 187 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:46.000 of their ranks at some point or another. So anyway, 188 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:48.360 he was originally brought in to play the Hammond organ, 189 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:52.720 which as I said, was his primary instrument, but the 190 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:55.159 studio didn't have one there, and as I say, the 191 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:58.759 Hammond organ isn't exactly the easiest thing to like carry 192 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:00.840 around with you. Oh, I'm just going to put it 193 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:02.519 in the case, tuck it under my arm. And no, 194 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.039 the only weigh about two and a half tons. You 195 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:09.559 need the Leslie speaker with the rotating and anywhere that's 196 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:12.759 another ton and a half or something like that. So yeah, no, 197 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.960 if they don't have one at the studio, you're not 198 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:19.600 going to use one. So they didn't, and the only 199 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:24.759 available keyboard that they had was a harpsichord of all things. Now, 200 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:27.279 the song that they were doing was called for Your Love, 201 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:31.519 and that harpsichord became the songs like signature sound if 202 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:34.399 you know the song, you know the beginning, and that's 203 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:38.360 Brian Auger anyway. Later the same year, Auger formed a 204 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:42.200 group called steam Packet, a group that included British blues 205 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:47.639 legend long John Baldry, a vocalist named Julie Driscoll, Julie Driscoll, 206 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:53.320 and another singer named Rod Stewart. Yes that Rod Stewart. 207 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:57.720 Now Stuart would actually leave the band shortly after and 208 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:01.679 Steam Packett would break up, and no official recordings were 209 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:05.840 really ever made by steam Packett due to contractual problems 210 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:08.799 at the time, but they did record a number of 211 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:11.720 tracks for promotional use, like to get gigs and stuff 212 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:16.320 like that, and they have since been commercially released. Now 213 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:19.679 after Steam Packett, Augur and Julie Driscoll formed a band 214 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:23.399 called Trinity, and their cover of a Bob Dylan song 215 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:27.759 called This Wheels on Fire reached number five on the 216 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:31.000 UK Pop charts, and they also appeared in the US 217 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:35.120 on The Monkeys NBCTV special called thirty three and a 218 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:40.799 third Revolutions per Monkey. In nineteen sixty nine. So let's 219 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:43.639 go to nineteen seventy. Auger formed his jazz fusion group 220 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:48.360 called Brian Auger's Oblivion Express, and the following year, the 221 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:52.559 band released their eponymously titled LP, with the leadoff track 222 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:55.360 Dragon Song that We're going to hear in about a minute. 223 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:59.200 The song was written by guitarist John McLaughlin and appeared 224 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:04.039 on mclachlin's nineteen seventy LP Devotion, an album that featured 225 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:07.679 Buddy Miles on drums. Now, of course, McLaughlin would later 226 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.600 form the Mahavish New Orchestra, and Buddy Miles was already 227 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:17.000 known for his association with the great Jimmy Hendrix. Now, 228 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:20.320 along with Augur on keyboards and guitarist Jim Mohen, the 229 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:26.320 Oblivion Expressed roster included at different times two different drummers, 230 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:30.159 Robbie McIntosh and Steve Faron, both of whom would go 231 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.519 on to become members again at different times of the 232 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:36.399 Average White Band, and Faren would later become a member 233 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:40.679 of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers as well. Well, let's 234 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:43.480 pause right here and give a listen to this hypnotic track, 235 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:47.039 the Dragon Song by Brian Augury's. 236 00:13:46.679 --> 00:17:58.799 Coas Ann and Am. 237 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:06.599 Yeah. I bought that record pretty much right after it 238 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:11.039 came out, right after I hit high school, so it yeah, 239 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:13.279 I lost a lot of brain cells listening to that song. 240 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.880 I mean, it's very hypnotic to me. It's also very frenetic, 241 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:24.880 not unlike me either, so you know. Yeah, No, I've 242 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:28.519 always liked that one. And now Brian Auger would go 243 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:30.680 on over the years to pretty much play with just 244 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:34.319 about everybody over in England. He really never got across 245 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:38.759 to America except maybe for that Monkey Show, but he 246 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:45.559 was well respected in England. When we were talking during 247 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.519 the song, I think, Gail you mentioned it sounded like 248 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:51.119 Emerson Lake and Palmer, which yes, yeah, and it was 249 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:53.559 right around the same time. I think this had a 250 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:56.960 little more jazzy stuff to it. And of course Emerson 251 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:02.079 Lake and Palmer. You know, they took over America and 252 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:03.799 that's a whole nother story. 253 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:07.480 Yes they did, and that brings me way back to 254 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:08.079 my youth. 255 00:19:09.079 --> 00:19:13.799 Oh yeah, well, well I can only continue here, like 256 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:18.160 I'm getting ahead of myself. Brian Alger released tons of records, 257 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:20.720 he was nominated for a Grammy Award, and as of 258 00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:23.920 this taping, he still remains active at the age of 259 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.839 eighty five, and I did get a chance to see 260 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:31.799 him perform, not with the Oblivion Express, but with a band, 261 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:35.599 and that was probably way back in late nineteen seventy four, 262 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:39.880 sometime at the legendary New York City venue The bottom Line, 263 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:43.119 which was like a small little club that is sadly 264 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:46.599 no longer there. I think he got bought up by 265 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:50.559 NYU and turned into dorms like everything else around there. 266 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:58.799 But I did get to see ELP too at that point. Again, 267 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:02.039 I went prepared, I'll just put it that way. I 268 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:05.440 went prepared for that, and I thought they were from 269 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:07.440 out of space. That's all I'm going to say. 270 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:10.920 Nice, that's a good one because you could you could 271 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:14.240 sit back and relax and listen to it, or like 272 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:16.880 if you wanted to be the music student and try 273 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:20.319 to pick everything out and see how complicated you know 274 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:22.200 what I mean, So you could really spend some energy 275 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:26.559 on it, or you could chill. Do me, I picked 276 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:28.440 everything out when I was a kid, because nowadays you 277 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:30.279 go on YouTube and watch smorials. 278 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:33.319 Wait when you listen to that song just now. 279 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.799 Just now, Oh, I was chilling. I put my brain 280 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:41.160 in first gear idol and just laid. 281 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:46.319 Back, just ride the music. Yes, yeah, now that and 282 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:48.880 it does have that kind of serpentine that riff is like, 283 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:52.480 that's the hypnotic part that I think in the song, 284 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:55.039 and it does you know? It is like a dragon 285 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:59.240 or some sort of serpent, you know, riding the waves. 286 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:02.799 I don't know. It's just it's cool. That's all I'm 287 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:03.440 going to say. 288 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:10.279 So they agreed. Awesome, good one, Barbara, you are up? 289 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:11.920 Okay? 290 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.440 Well, my song choice this week is called Life Is 291 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:20.359 Safer when You're Sleeping and it's by a band called 292 00:21:20.599 --> 00:21:24.079 Barnes and Barnes. Has anyone ever heard of Barnes and Barnes. 293 00:21:24.119 --> 00:21:26.920 Don't they get you the largest settlement for your injury? 294 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:31.680 Does anybody know what Barns is famous for? 295 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:34.799 I buy all my books there. Oh that's Barnes and Noble. 296 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:38.200 Very good girl, eat them up? 297 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:39.440 Yeah? 298 00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:40.160 Perhaps really? 299 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:47.279 Yeah? Yeah yes, But Barnes and Barnes wrote it. 300 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:48.200 Okay. 301 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:56.599 They formed in nineteen seventy by members Robert Hamer and 302 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:58.640 some dude named Bill Mooney. 303 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:00.599 Has anybody ever heard of this guy? 304 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:01.880 Yeah? 305 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:03.640 Anybody know what he's famous for? 306 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:06.079 The cornfield? 307 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:10.279 Ye exactly, sending people to the cornfield, among other things. 308 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:14.559 And honestly, on my birthday he'll say things to me 309 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:18.160 on Facebook like have a real good birthday and then 310 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:26.960 it's like, okay, sure, Bill, thanks so Robert Hamer and 311 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:27.680 Bill Moomey. 312 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:30.640 In case you don't know, Bill. 313 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:34.880 Moomy was also in Lost Space Babylon five, A bunch 314 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:35.880 of Yes. 315 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:38.440 He's very receptive on Facebook. 316 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:40.160 If you want to have a conversation with him, I'll 317 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:44.200 answer questions because the dork in me asked him which 318 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:46.319 season of Loss and Space did he like best? 319 00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:53.559 As far as costumes, So yeah, so he so. 320 00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:58.000 Bill and Robert were childhood friends and classmates way back 321 00:22:58.440 --> 00:23:02.240 in during their childhood in California, they began to write 322 00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:07.000 and record original novelty songs, and in nineteen seventy eight 323 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:13.359 sent two of their songs to Doctor Demento, namely Boogie 324 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:24.079 Woo Boogie Boogie, Amputee Mao Wow and Fishheads. So both 325 00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:29.319 songs did receive airplay, and Fishheads went on to become 326 00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:35.000 the most requested song on the Doctor Demento show. And 327 00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:38.119 over the years they branched out into recording non novelty 328 00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:43.000 mainstream tracks as well, and Life Is Safer when You're 329 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:45.920 Sleeping is one of them. It was included on their 330 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:51.759 nineteen eighty four album called Amazing Adult Fantasy and features 331 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:55.400 Robert Hamer on lead vocals. It's a good example of 332 00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:59.279 a darker persona with themes of lost, regret, and death, 333 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:03.079 the exact opposite of most of his contributions to Barnes 334 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:09.319 and Barns, which were lighthearted, lighthearted and nonsensical. So let's 335 00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:12.759 listen to it, let's get hypnotized, and we'll discuss further afterwards. 336 00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:18.039 Life is so much safer when you're sleeping. 337 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:41.319 Why don't you lay down and stay? The life be 338 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:42.880 so much. 339 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:43.880 Save when you. 340 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:49.720 Why don't lay down? 341 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:57.960 Let's say, life be so much safer when your s. 342 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:00.359 Hm. 343 00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:04.680 Why don't you lay talent? Say in. 344 00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:13.319 Weary on the ground. 345 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:16.720 Well, the day. 346 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:19.480 I sign. 347 00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:30.799 You not dream a travel all away? 348 00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:38.400 He shot a stay. Life be so much said when 349 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:39.440 your sleep? 350 00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:45.599 Me and why don't you lay talans. 351 00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:56.759 Like me so much safer and witness sleep? Why don't 352 00:25:56.839 --> 00:25:58.759 she lay talent. 353 00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:10.400 Stay a Mormon? Come he will need to die? 354 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:13.680 Little me a O. 355 00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:20.559 We are love. 356 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.799 Never cool, never cold? 357 00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:57.880 Like it so much safer when you sleep? So god 358 00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:02.720 chy talents? 359 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:34.000 Okay? 360 00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:37.519 So Bill Mumi and Robert Hamer had a very intense 361 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:42.839 fifty five year personal relationship. Sometimes their musical style would 362 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:44.599 be to go back and forth in a kind of 363 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:48.599 musical conversation, evident in song titles such as Won't You 364 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.519 Sing to Me? Robert Hamer and I Love Billy Moomy 365 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:59.680 So Much. Hamer often hosted Facebook live events where all 366 00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:03.240 kinds of music and shenanigans took place, and he did 367 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.319 this right up until his illness and untimely death in 368 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:09.759 March of twenty twenty three. Bill Mumi was the one 369 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.720 who revealed Hamer's passing on social media via a Facebook post, 370 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.640 which I actually thought was a joke until I read 371 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:23.920 the whole thing. Bill still makes music. He has toured 372 00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.920 with the cow Stills in America, and every Monday morning 373 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:31.880 he also does a Facebook live called the Monday Morning 374 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.319 Moomie Music Moment. 375 00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:38.759 And it's fun. You should listen to it. And there 376 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:39.240 you have it. 377 00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:44.400 I thought that was creepy. I thought that was a 378 00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.119 guy in my ear going come on over, you'll be. 379 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:52.000 Fine, really, come over and sleep in mind. 380 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.480 Yeah, just sleep, there's nothing going on, there's nothing wrong. 381 00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:02.240 We locked the door from the outside for safety. 382 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.720 That quickly turns into the calls are coming from inside 383 00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:07.000 the house. 384 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:07.359 Right. 385 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:12.440 Yeah. One person's hypnosis is another one's creep out. I 386 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:19.119 suppose I guess I'm the only one. All right, Thank you, Barbara. 387 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:21.839 We're gonna take a quick break and be back with 388 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:26.359 Gail's pick right after this. Hudson River Radio. Your dog 389 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:26.880 likes us. 390 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:29.359 This concludes the first part of this cassette. 391 00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:32.480 Please turn the cassette over and begin again. On side to. 392 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.519 This is Hudson River Radio dot Com. 393 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:49.480 Ah Y, and welcome back. And tonight's topic was Gail's idea. 394 00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:51.920 So I am looking forward to hearing what Gail has 395 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:52.640 picked for us. 396 00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:59.000 Okay, thank you, Brian. So As I mentioned before, I 397 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:02.960 was striving to work and I listened to a public 398 00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.920 radio station on my way to and from work, and 399 00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:11.720 I heard a song that I've heard before, but it 400 00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.079 kind of grabbed my attention and I thought, wow, this 401 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:17.039