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Speaker 2: It's all shirley these days.

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Speaker 3: Okay, d I've got a trivia question for you. There

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you know who that is? I feel like

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I'm in church and the answer is always Jesus. And

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given that we're here to talk about three movies by

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chevy Chase, I feel like that's going to be the

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right answer. But then I feel like you're going to

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tell me and you're going to say.

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Speaker 3: The answer is not Jesus. That's how much I can

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tell you at this moment.

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Speaker 1: Okay, chevy Chase.

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Speaker 3: Chevy Chase, who start in Fletch, European Vacation and Spies

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like us. The only actor to have three movies in

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the top twenty at the box office in nineteen eighty five.

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Now here's my trivia question to you.

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Speaker 3: So obviously today we're here to talk about those three movies.

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We're doing a Chevy Chase.

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Speaker 1: Three way trifecta.

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Speaker 3: Three great movies from nineteen eighty five, funny classics. Chevy

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Chase really at the top of his game in nineteen

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Speaker 1: Yep. Okay.

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Speaker 3: There were two actors who had two movies in the

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Speaker 1: Two actors who had two movies in the top twenty.

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So I'm gonna guess Michael J. Fox with Back to

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the Future and Teen Wolf.

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Speaker 3: Not in the top twenty. It's a good guess, though, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Michael Hall.

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Speaker 3: No, Sylvester stallone, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Right, right with Rocky four and Rambo Rambo and Rocky four.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, and the other one is a little

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bit harder me hip. He was also in the movie

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Speaker 1: Okay. So Ted Danson hasn't been in any good movies,

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that year, So I feel like we've got to be

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Speaker 3: Steve Gutenberg had two movies in the top twenty in

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Speaker 1: And he guesses when did Three Minute a Baby come out?

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Speaker 3: Eighty seven?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Police Academy two. Yep. And cocoon cocoon. Well done,

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I've just got the stonecutters. The we made Steve Gutenberg

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a star from the Simpsons. Thing going through my head,

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Speaker 3: Steve Gutenberg? The goot is big in eighty five, but

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not as big as Cornelius Crane Chase. Did you know

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that he was a Vanderbilt Vanderbilt University.

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Speaker 1: Well, that the university was named after a he's a man. Yeah, wow,

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so not really. Oh, by the way, everybody, welcome back

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to the Shirly You Can't Be Serious podcast. We are

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here talking about three movies starring Chevy Chase from nineteen

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eighty five, which are all phenomenal. We have fletch, we

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have spies like us, and we have European Vacation. It's

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the nineteen eighty five Chevy Chase trifecta. You just weren't

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getting any hotter than Chevy Chase in nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 3: Hot as a firecracker in nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and so I'm James D. Graves and you're not.

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And this is my co host Jason Colvin. If it's

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your first time watching me. Welcome aboard. We will be

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telling you by the end of our second episode. This

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will be the first episode. End of the second episode,

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how we rank these three movies. Which is the best

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and which is the worst.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna rank them one, two three at the end

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of this final judgment, I will tell you this. So

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I was curious because three movies in nineteen eighty five,

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that's working, right, And so I looked at the filming dates.

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Fletch was released May thirty first, nineteen eighty five, European

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Speaker 1: Yep, he filmed Fletch first in early eighty four, he

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Speaker 3: Here's the interesting thing. You're exactly right. The Fletch shoot

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was in and around Los Angeles, Okay, and they had

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Speaker 3: Kind of place it for you. The eighty four Olympics

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was that? I think that's after him? And then Carl Lewis,

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Speaker 3: You had Mary Decker. The girl fell down. I think

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Zola Bud tripped her up and she's laying there on

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the track crying. But great year for Chevy Chase in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a gold, a silver, and a bronze

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on these three movies. I think that's right. That's right.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of nineteen eighty five, your favorite movie of all time?

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European Vacation, and as the power phouse that he is,

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Chevy Chase dethroned Michael J. Fox for a week and

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then back to the Future came back for another eight

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Speaker 3: That, so obviously Back to the Future was the big

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movie that summer. But that's showing some clout that Chevy

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, excuse me.

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Speaker 1: So have you. I don't know if you remember, like,

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Speaker 1: I know, I saw European Vacation in the movie theater

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and I have not seen it again since then until

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like I just finished it ten minutes ago, right, I

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time with National Lampoon Vacation, Yes, all I was waiting

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for when I saw that movie was Beverly DeAngelo to

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show me her boobies again. And then I got a

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behind the back flash from the towel and I was

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like disappointed for the rest of the movie.

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Speaker 1: Hot Wife in the Shower hot wife in the shower. Okay,

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so his biological parents. His dad passed away early on

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of the Vanderbilts and became kind of a socialite for

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kind of social status, he got to go to some

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pretty good schools, which means he got to get kicked

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out of some pretty good schools. I told you a

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Speaker 3: I heard him tell a story where, you know, it's

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one of those deals where he was acting up in class,

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disrupting the class, and the teacher said, mister Chase, I

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demand that you stand up and apologize to the class

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for your behavior. And so he stood up and, in

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young Chevy Chase fashion, was like students faculty loved ones.

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and how she's recovered from syphilis, and her face looks

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Speaker 1: Get out. He's like, I did what you told me. Yeah.

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got himself expelled from that college. What I heard was

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that he this is speculation, but might have snuck a

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full grown cow into one of the dorm rooms. I've

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Speaker 3: I've heard rumors of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so of course he's got this. He's got this

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witty humor. You know, he's obviously a card. He's a

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guy that I think his mouth gets him a lot

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of success and also in a lot of trouble.

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Speaker 3: He's really good at poking fun at people. And if

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she refused to go on set unless she had a

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ticket to New York in her hand, so that she

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Speaker 3: Could had to have it at all times. Because he's

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such a rear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now we've already talked about this. We've covered Chevy Chase

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Speaker 1: Ye, go back.

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Speaker 3: That's a couple of summers ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, talked about Christmas Vacation versus Scrooge. Christmas Vacation he

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Speaker 3: And Chris Columbus had to have the job, like had

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Speaker 3: Christmas Vacation and Scrooge that was fun.

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up deciding, you know, hey, this thing that I'm good

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make something of myself with it. He ends up doing

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an improv troop. He ends up with Belushi and the

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got himself cast in a play because a casting director

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immediately was like, let's start doing some impressions, and got

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himself a bit part in a play, but he just

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act up that he could. And then he's in line

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to watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and the

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Lauren Michaels that he recognizes and is low and Lauren's like, hey,

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really good as a writer on this, and so he

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they're like, we got to get this guy in front

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of the camera. And of course he lays the foundation

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for Saturday Night Live News, which are we end update?

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We we end update with Chevy Chase. I'm Chevy Chase

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and you're not why from New York.

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Speaker 3: It's Saturday night, you know, Chevy Chase. To give him credit,

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he had the rare combination of being really funny and

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having like leading man type looks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was watching some of like it was the

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scene in European Vacation where he like rips off the sunglasses,

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you know, like Mom's been kidnapped, right, He's doing the

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Superman thing and ripping off the sunglasses, moving from Clark

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the looks, he's got the I mean, I think Harrison

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more seriously. Sure, but you know, things went a little different.

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I could totally see Chevy being an action star.

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Chevy Chase, and that movie is he has some goofy moments,

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they're capitalizing on his SNL presence, but he also has

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some serious moments. It's a cop drama. I mean, he's

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he shoots a guy. I mean there's some action involved

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Fletch in that there's some really dramatic moments, and you

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could see him being a serious actor, but he just

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never really leaned into that full on. I don't think

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he could have been great at it, though.

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Speaker 1: I think I Chevy being goofy Chevy is the Chevy

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that I want to see most of the time.

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Speaker 3: I just got to say, well, I mean that's true

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though with Robin Williams. Like Robin Williams is off the hook.

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He's hilarious. We all love him, he's super funny, but

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then also we get good will honey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. So No, he definitely can do do

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Speaker 3: He could pull off both. I just don't know why

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's interesting. I don't Chevy Chase ever in

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like a genuinely serious movie, like not a comedic movie

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at all. I can't think. I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he ever stretches like I think Fletch

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maybe the furthest he ever stretched.

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Speaker 1: Right, you know, stretched and Fletch, Yeah, stretched and Fletch.

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Speaker 3: You know the end scene with Tim matheson mister Stanwick

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it's tense. Yeah, yeah, And that's that's about it.

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Speaker 1: Had things played out differently. With the way that we

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compare movies, I can totally see us having compared Beverly Hills,

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cop Arms Seth Fletch. It's like just such a similar vibe.

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You've of course got two SNL alumni leading the show

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on both of these things. But let's you know, let's

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start there with Fletch. So, Fletch was actually a series

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of books from like the seventies. You said you had

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some of these books.

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Speaker 3: Right, I've read a couple of these books. It's been

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a forever ago since I've read. Gregory MacDonald is the author.

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Fletch is humorous in those books, but he's also more serious.

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Speaker 1: Right. So they started developing a script for that book,

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those stories in the seventies, and it went through multiple

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production companies, multiple producers, and I mean just basically it

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could never really see the light of day. So from

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it just was in development.

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Speaker 3: Hell, right, and then something happened. Michael Douglas stepped in. Yes,

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that Michael Douglas. He saw the potential for a character,

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like a reoccurring character. It bounced around from you know,

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it was with Columbia, it was with Universal, it was

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with Fox, it was with Paramount and Warner Brothers, and no,

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everybody kind of passed on it. And then Michael Douglas

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steps in and says, I think there's something here. You know,

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it's one of those where Okay, well maybe you should

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star as Fletched. So Michael Douglas was considered for this character.

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I mean you want to let's talk about the list

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of names who could have been Fletchka. All right, so

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here are the names that I have for you that

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could have been Fletched. Okay, Burt Reynolds, yes, Richard Dreyfus, No,

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George Sigal well maybe maybe Richard I could he was

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funny in Steakout. Yeah, well he was funny in Steakout.

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Speaker 1: I've not seen sake he was funny. And what about

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Bob I could see him being I mean, yes, he's

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he does some good comedic work. Okay, yeah, okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: George Segal, the guy from Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf?

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I mean the Grandpa and the Goldbergs, right, okay, yeah,

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all right, Barry Bostwick, Okay, sure, okay, Charles Grodin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that too. Jeff Bridges definitely, Oh, definitely, yeah,

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Jeff Bridges would have been an incredibly good fledge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, how about this one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick Jagger, somebody was smoking some crack when they

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came up with that idea. So as I understand it,

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the author McDonald Gregor McDonald, yeah, he because it went

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through so many options that eventually he was like, I

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want veto rights on whoever's going to star in this thing?

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And and he was absolutely like, no, you're not casting

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McJagger right as Irwin Fletcher. No, not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Come on, And so they offered a Chevy Chase.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sorry, who are you again, I'm Frida's boss.

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Who's Frida my secretary?

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Speaker 3: He actually turned it down, which he said, I didn't

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turn it down, my manager turned it down. Yeah, And

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when it came back to him, I think he got

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a little more involved saw it and it's like, yeah,

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I think maybe, And that's when Gregory McDonald sort of

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blessed that Chevy Chase as Fletch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I think our problems may just be staved. McMahon.

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I think I just one of million bucks. Yeah, win,

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m Fletcher, you choose? Oh boy, I lost again. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: So chevy Chase really tuned in and decided he wanted

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to play it when he found out the guy writing

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the screenplay was going to be Andrew Bergman. Okay, so

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Andrew Bergman has before this wrote Blazing Saddle, Blazing Saddles. Yes, yeah,

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I mean I could. I mean if you yes, I

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mean nineteen eighties. If you're telling me the guy that

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wrote Blazing Zaddles is going to write a movie that

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I can be a part of, and I'm chevy Chase. Yeah,

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one percent, I'm doing that right now. Do you know

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what movie he wrote in the future that we're going

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to cover later? What? No? What tell me? Okay, it

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came up. It keeps coming up. I don't understand why

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it keeps coming up. It came up whenever we were

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talking about we're talking about the Eagles. One of the

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co writers of the songs wrote a book. His most

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famous book was called Strip Tease. Andrew Bergman wrote the

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screenplay for Strip Teas. So you guys tune in. It's

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not that we love Strip Tease. We are going to

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go and we're going to cover strip teas and God

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help me show Girls and ask the question, what the

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heck happened?

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Speaker 3: We might love strip teas after watching show Girls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if I'm still alive and haven't slipped my wrists vertically, yes.

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Speaker 3: All right, so we want to go through the Fletched

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cast real quick.

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Speaker 1: Well all right, so.

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Speaker 3: So obviously Chevy Chase, Irwin M. Fletcher aka Fletch aka

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John Cock, Toastin Igor Stravinsky, right, Jane Doe, Don Corleone,

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Doctor Rosen Rosen, Ted Nugent, Harry S.

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Speaker 1: Truman, Yeah, mister Poone, Manchi Indian.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's me doctor Rosen, Poenis. I'm just here to

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check out Damwick's file, Doctor Rosen Rose.

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Speaker 1: And I'm here to get a runner again. I get

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doctor Rosen, I want to check out records and doctor Rosen.

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Speaker 3: So he plays all these characters in the same movie.

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And Chevy has said this is his favorite movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt like he got to be him. The

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director Michael Richie said that basically he would do two

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takes every time. First one by the script, second one

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Chevy do what you want to do, whatever you want. Yeah,

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and he Chevy loved that, like he really just and

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you can tell, I mean, you can tell that he's

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the camera.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very self aware. Yeah, you and I were

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talking a few minutes ago. The thing that makes Chevy

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so funny in his movies is that he's always smirking.

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Speaker 1: He's very self aware.

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Speaker 3: He we know, we're in on the joke, right, And

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we saw a video this week. Chevy's in his eighties now,

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Speaker 1: Doesn't seem to be as self aware. Yeah. It made

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me sad, like, what are we doing? Where are we going?

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He actually said where am I going? Where am I going?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, But they took him to a put golf

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course called Caddy Shack and he went up and he's

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all right, I'm Chevy Chase and the guy was like.

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Speaker 1: What Yeah, that's great. All right.

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Speaker 3: So let's go through the Let's go through the cast

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of Fletcher real quick. Okay, So Jodn Baker is playing

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the police captain.

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Speaker 4: You're serious? Ask anybody? Can I ask anybody? Now? How about?

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Speaker 1: Can I call my mom?

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Speaker 4: Tell her how much I love her?

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Speaker 3: We talked about him in our Jimmy Buffet episode, actually

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not him specifically, but a role that he.

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Speaker 1: Played walking Tall, Yes, where he played uh Sheriff Pusser.

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That's right, you for Pusser for Pusser, that's right. Jonn

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Baker also plays two different characters in the James Bond universe.

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Speaker 3: He plays a good guy in GoldenEye and a bad

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guy in the Living Daylights.

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Speaker 1: One of the few people to do that. That's interesting. Okay, okay.

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I love the way he handles this character too, because

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he's just an absolute slime ball, but he plays him

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as this kind of smiling, jovial We're just gonna laugh

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through all of this yeast a. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: When he's when he's pointing the gun out of him

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in the jail cell and he's like, what's it gonna be,

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mister Fletcher, And he's like, hey, your beach. He's like,

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come on, may I, you know, come on out of there.

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It's like they're buddies now, you know, all right. Dana

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Speaker 1: Was smoking hot in this movie. My gosh, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Who is it? It's John.

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Speaker 2: John?

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Speaker 4: Who? It's John John loves and I don't remember Don Cocks. Hi, Hi,

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I was hoping you'd say that. I just got out

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of the shower. Yeah, can I borrow your towel? Persect?

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My card is hit a water buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Nice place you have here in her little tennis outfit, towel.

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Speaker 4: Hit.

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Speaker 1: She made Chevy laugh during the audition. She doesn't even

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remember what she said. He laughed.

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Speaker 3: That was her in Yeah, And I think everybody was

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just kind of in love with her.

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Speaker 1: She just cute, cute as she can be, not at

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all like she was in Tombstone. Yeah, she was in Tombstone.

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Speaker 3: She played whites ou Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, totally, she's I'm surprised she didn't do more, honestly. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Here's my little titbit on her. Okay, I've got I'm

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ready to drop this bomb on you all kay. She

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is the granddaughter of Malcolm Nicholson. Is a name ring

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bell to you? He is the founder of National Allied Publications.

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Speaker 1: Does that mean anything to you? That later became d

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C Comics? Wow? Wow, how about that? I hate to backtrack,

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but I forgot to bring up did you know that?

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In the in the Move to success as Chevy was,

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you know, driving taxicabs around? He also wrote for Mad magazine.

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I heard that isn't that crazy. I want to go

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look up and see what kind of storyline Chevy Chase

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Speaker 3: I used toill love Mad Magazine all the time, all

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the time. Okay, Tim Matheson plays Alan Stanwick.

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Speaker 4: Yes, these will be open when they normally be locked. Sometimes, yes,

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sometimes know the staff usually forget. Oh yeah, I have

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the same trouble with my home.

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Speaker 1: This is a beautiful tie to the to all of

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these things because last year we covered Revenge of the

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Nerds versus Animal House. We did, which is of course

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directed by John Landis. Yes, and John Landis didn't want

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Chevy Chase to be in Animal House, but he was

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the he was the obvious choice at the time, but

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you got Belushi in there. He didn't want it to

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be a Saturday Night Live reunion thing, and he knew

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that Chevy wanted to be a star, and so he

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reversed psychology to him, and he was like, you're gonna

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love this. You're gonna be part of this big ensemble piece.

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this big group. And he was like, yeah, I'm out. Yeah,

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one of the movies we're talking about today in spies

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like us hundred percent. But who do they have come

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into the role of Otter for Animal House Matheson and

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Matheson and here they are in Fletch together.

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Speaker 3: I've got a funny Tim Mathieson story for you.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: First of all, that's that's great little tie in right

466
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there with John Landis and Animal House and all that stuff. Okay,

467
00:23:50,599 --> 00:23:53,640
and we've actually got another tie with Fred the Dwarf

468
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,640
Doorfman here in a second, Maybe should just hit that.

469
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,559
Speaker 1: While we're here. Well, okay, So in Fletch, he stands

470
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,680
up in the middle they're having like it looks like

471
00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:05,839
a rotary club or something like that, Kawanas ring or something, right,

472
00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:11,039
big honorary there, and he stands up and does this

473
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:14,119
this thank you and you know, doing a speech. Nobody

474
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,720
knows who he is, Fred the Dwarf Dorfmann as they're

475
00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:20,160
all coming in and Fred Dorfman apparently is the brother

476
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:25,519
of Flounder Darfman from Animal That's right, Yeah, so I

477
00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:27,640
guess it all ties. What a nice little ti there.

478
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, So here's my funny story with Tim Tim Matheson. Okay,

479
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,240
we have talked in the past about who had the

480
00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:38,039
greater twenty four hours in the eighties. Is it Lionel Richie.

481
00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: Richie or is it Billy Joel Billy Joel.

482
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,039
Speaker 3: Right right, I present to you Tim Matheson Okay, okay.

483
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:49,559
So he was some special birthday, maybe his thirtieth birthday, okay.

484
00:24:50,079 --> 00:24:53,079
And for his thirtieth birthday, he got a knock on

485
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the door. He's a Hollywood actor, knock on the door.

486
00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:59,880
One of his next door neighbors, young hot woman is like,

487
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:05,640
guess what here, I am your birthday present. So she

488
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,039
gives herself to him as his birthday present.

489
00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: Okay.

490
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:15,759
Speaker 3: So she leaves, knock, knock, knock. Another neighbor comes over here.

491
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:17,279
I am happy birthday.

492
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:18,599
Speaker 1: Okay.

493
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:21,559
Speaker 3: Now he had a girlfriend who is out of town.

494
00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:29,559
Keep that in mind, okay, Okay. After she leaves, knock knock, knock, here,

495
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I am happy birthday.

496
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Speaker 1: Okay.

497
00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 3: Except this third woman, this is Kirsty Alley. Okay, okay, yeah,

498
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,480
So keeping we're keeping count at home.

499
00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:45,279
Speaker 1: This is number three. Yeah, and Kirsty Alley's peak hottness.

500
00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,799
Speaker 3: No, dad, he said she was the wild girl from

501
00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:55,319
which tah right, okay. And after afterwards they're laying in bed, knock, knock, knock.

502
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His girlfriend had flown home to say happy birthday, and

503
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,480
so Christy ally goes out the side window.

504
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: Gosh, girlfriend comes in town. Happy birthday. Here I am.

505
00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:11,759
I hope he was stalking some Oh my lord, So

506
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:17,200
there you go. Tim Matheson Otter similar, Yeah, okay, yeah,

507
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,440
all right, all right.

508
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: Richard Libertini, he plays Frank, He plays the boss at

509
00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:22,160
the newspaper.

510
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love him, right, he's hilarious.

511
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:30,279
Speaker 4: Pat's him is a story. There's a source behind him. Well,

512
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:32,279
they were in a kind of a gray area. All right,

513
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,720
oh gray charcoal.

514
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: He's shaking the coffee.

515
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,039
Speaker 3: Here's my tidbit on him. That's gonna blow your socks off.

516
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:43,880
Do you know he was married too? He was married

517
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,519
to Melinda Dillon. Does that name ring a bell to you?

518
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: It does ring a bell for me, but I can't

519
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,319
remember why.

520
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,759
Speaker 3: She was one of the girls, one of the ladies

521
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:53,359
in Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

522
00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:56,079
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I know you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

523
00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:59,000
She's the mom of the little kid who gets pulled away. Yes,

524
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,799
and she's also the mom in Christmas Story.

525
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, she was married to this guy. The Mom

526
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:13,319
from the Christmas Story. Interesting, m Emmett Walsh was also

527
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:15,240
in this movie. He's doctor Jellyfinger.

528
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:18,279
Speaker 1: Isn't there a children's book about an elephant named.

529
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:23,279
Speaker 4: Bar I don't know. I don't have any no children,

530
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,240
no elephant books.

531
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, I can't see that guy and not think

532
00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:34,519
about him shooting at at Steve Martin in The Jerk.

533
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: The Jerk.

534
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: He hates these cans? Are you gasper?

535
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: He was also in Blade Runner, which we've talked about. Yeah,

536
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,960
and he was in Raised in Arizona. Yeah, not that mother.

537
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: Scratcher, That mother scratch Have.

538
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: You ever heard of the Stanton Walsh rule?

539
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:55,519
Speaker 1: And not ringing a bell for me?

540
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,279
Speaker 3: Okay, so apparently this is a rule that it's kind

541
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:02,720
of well known around Hollywood that if you have Dean

542
00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:06,559
Stanton or m Mt Walsh in your movie, it automatically

543
00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:07,519
makes your movie good.

544
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,079
Speaker 1: I can see that.

545
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: Actually, they called the Stanton Walsh rule. Yeah, okay, the

546
00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:16,559
exception to that rule Wild Wild West. I guess Walsh

547
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,440
was in Wild wld West. Yeah, So okay, quickly, you've

548
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,319
got George went who plays fat Sam.

549
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,519
Speaker 1: Norm Norm from Cheers, Right he just lost him? Yeah,

550
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:27,359
I just lost him.

551
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,759
Speaker 3: So He plays fat Sam Okay, Gena Davis in an

552
00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:32,119
early role from.

553
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: Her Dude, she was smoking hot back in nineteen eighty five,

554
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,240
looking good and immensu member.

555
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:45,359
Speaker 3: Limber and smart, smart and an Olympic qualifier in archery?

556
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,599
Speaker 1: What come on?

557
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,599
Speaker 3: All that and looks too?

558
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:49,279
Speaker 4: Yeah?

559
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: Okay? How about uh?

560
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,759
Speaker 3: So here's the one we talked about before, Kenneth Mars.

561
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,160
He plays Gale Stanton's dad, the head of Boyd Aviation.

562
00:28:57,359 --> 00:28:58,359
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah.

563
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,519
Speaker 3: You and I were talking about him. You recognize I

564
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:00,839
did not.

565
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the he's the commandant in Young Frankenstein, the

566
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:13,599
guy I got the picture, the nice grouping. Yes, yeah, yeah.

567
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:17,319
Speaker 3: Okay, so he's obviously that main character in Young Frankenstein.

568
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,839
Here's the one that blew me away. He is the

569
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,559
voice of King Triton in The Little Mermaid.

570
00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:26,359
Speaker 1: I consider myself a reasonable murmur.

571
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,599
Speaker 3: I set certain rules, and I expect those rules to

572
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:33,440
be obeyed.

573
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: But is it true you rescued a human from drowning?

574
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:41,119
Speaker 1: Daddy, I had contact? Oh yeah, I could see that

575
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,039
now that you said I did not know that. How

576
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:45,119
about that one? Yes? Great? Okay?

577
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,599
Speaker 3: Uh. You have Larry Flash Jenkins as Gummy Do you

578
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,839
recognize him?

579
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: He was he in total recall?

580
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:54,519
Speaker 4: Am I remembering that? Right?

581
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: No, that's the different guy. Okay, then I don't know.

582
00:29:57,599 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: He is one of the car attendants in Ferris Bueller's

583
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:01,680
Day Off.

584
00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the yeah, the one where the car is cresting.

585
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah. You also have James Avery, who plays

586
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,480
Will Smith's dad in the Fresh Princeville area.

587
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, he's one of the two goon cops. Yep, yep,

588
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:20,880
you told me the other goon cop was one of

589
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,559
the football players in UH sixteen. She's a child, Jake.

590
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:28,880
What do you think of her? I try not to, right,

591
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:30,960
he's the guy who's doing the pull ups. Then you

592
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:35,920
panned back and you realize he's just standing there. And

593
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,759
then you also have Alison LaPlaca.

594
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Speaker 3: We talked about her. She plays the pan Am clerk.

595
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: Stand like.

596
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: You are confirmed on PanAm flight four forty one to

597
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:48,400
Rio de Janeiro tomorrow evening eleven pm, first class.

598
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:52,359
Speaker 4: That's terrific. Thank you you're reconfirmed this morning? You bet

599
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,599
I did. I'm a bear for detail. I hope there's

600
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:58,400
nobody sitting next to me. You see, I always travel

601
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,680
first class and I take both seats up. I'm afraid

602
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,839
there is someone sitting next to you. Oh god, don

603
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:12,000
don who is it? Mister Singlendon know the names Kavanaugh Kavanaugh?

604
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: Ah?

605
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,279
Speaker 4: Is that Morris or Pierre? Sally Ann Kavanaugh Sally Anne?

606
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,720
Well terrific. In fact, you purchased the ticket form as Kavanaugh.

607
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:24,400
Doesn't mean I want to sitting next to me, does it?

608
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: Oh? Right? Yeah? She was the she's the boss. She's

609
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,440
Rachel's boss from friends. That's right. Yeah. Yes.

610
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: And then finally you have who dies.

611
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: Like gets hit acrossing the road or something like that.

612
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,000
I remember that, that's right, Yeah, that's right.

613
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:41,359
Speaker 3: You have Chick Hern, the voice of the Los Angeles Lakers.

614
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: Yes, and you have Kareem abdul Jabbar. Yes.

615
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:48,039
Speaker 3: How about Fletch? Yeah, well Fletch helps us win. He

616
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:49,079
does all the hard stuff.

617
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: Look at him shake Defenders six five six nine with

618
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:55,880
the afro. That scene is so funny.

619
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: Did you know that they had him as a hockey

620
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:01,799
player and as a picture and baseball pitcher as well.

621
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you can see pictures early posters that shows

622
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:09,039
him as the hockey player with the picture scene. This

623
00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:10,960
ties into a scene that they left in the movie

624
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,799
that didn't really make a whole lot of sense. But

625
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,799
in the picture scene he or in the Dodgers scene,

626
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,599
he is playing a picture and Tommy Lesorta comes in

627
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,400
and takes him out of the game. Yes, and then

628
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,319
you have this moment where he punches the picture and chief, Hey, hey,

629
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:26,599
Tommy Lisorda. That's how that all makes sense. That's right.

630
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: Dodgers and the La Kings pre Wayne Gretzky La Kings.

631
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: Right, all right, so are we ready to talk about

632
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:37,400
next movie, which is European Vacation. Let's talk about European Vacation.

633
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:39,319
Speaker 4: I want to write, I want to paint, I want

634
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:44,440
to sculpt something massive. I want to I gotta creative.

635
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: Urge to Yeah, I wonder if there's a men's room here?

636
00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 4: Anything?

637
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: Okay. So obviously with this one you have a very

638
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:55,519
easy This is a sequel to a absolute smash from

639
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:59,160
nineteen eighty three. Clearly you gotta have Chevy Chase come back.

640
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:02,160
Clearly you got to have Beverly DiAngelo come back. And

641
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,319
then Anthony Michael Hall goes and f stuff's up by

642
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:08,839
agreeing to do this weird movie called Weird Science.

643
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,119
Speaker 3: She does Weird Science instead of this movie.

644
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Dana Baron played Audrey in the first one.

645
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:18,000
She was cast as Audrey in European Vacation. But when

646
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,640
they couldn't get Anthony Michael hall Amy, Heckerling's like, well,

647
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,319
we're going to change both the kids then, and that's

648
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,480
how you get into this habit of different kids in

649
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:27,000
every single Vacation movie.

650
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: I think that kind of sucks for Dana Baron, sure,

651
00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:32,519
but the girl who steps in and plays her, yeah,

652
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:38,039
is funny, she's good, she's comedic, she's got she does

653
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:38,839
some stuff that's fun.

654
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. She was sad, Yes, sad moment she passed away

655
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:47,240
at thirty two. She had struggled with diabetes her whole

656
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,920
life since a little girl. Actually, it's what caused her

657
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,960
to have to get out of something she was involved

658
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,279
sports or something like that she was involved in and

659
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,279
move into acting, which, okay, you know, she got cast

660
00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:01,240
quite a bit as a child actor and then because

661
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,799
of the diabetes, started doing voiceover work later on in

662
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:07,039
her career. But yeah, tragically it got her at age

663
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:10,599
thirty two, very young, very young. Yeah, So obviously we

664
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,960
the first vacation we talked about, and that was a

665
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:18,840
John Hughes creation. From his days writing for National Lampoon magazine.

666
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,239
This one is based on the same characters, but he

667
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,440
doesn't just get a character's thing. He gets a writing

668
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,800
credit on this because a lot of the ideas from

669
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,440
those original stories they used in this. Even though he

670
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:35,239
said he didn't even know they made the movie until

671
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,920
he saw a preview for it on TV. How crazy

672
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,239
is that? That's ridiculous. Like he's like, hey, they're making

673
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,159
a sequel to my movie. Yeah, I mean, how do

674
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,400
you not just mention it to John Hughes. I mean,

675
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,239
because he's hot at that moment, he's got sixteen candles

676
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,320
this come out. He's in the middle of breakfast club

677
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:56,760
and about to do weird science dealer. Yeah. I don't

678
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,639
know how that happens.

679
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: But so they took the pieces that, like the leftover

680
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:03,960
pieces from the first movie, incorporated them into the script,

681
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,480
and then they asked, So John Hughes is unavailable or

682
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,480
I guess they didn't even try. Yeah right, Well, he's

683
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:11,880
busy with breakfast club and.

684
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: Doing other things. Let's not bother him. So this guy named.

685
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,599
Speaker 3: Robert Clain filled in the gaps.

686
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:27,119
Speaker 1: Robert Klaine famous four week Beekend at Bernie's what Yes,

687
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:28,280
which is funny.

688
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, now here's the interesting thing. Okay, So Harold

689
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,880
Raimus directed Vacation. Okay, he's busy playing Egon in Ghostbusters,

690
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:43,599
which huge movie for nineteen eighty four. Sure, okay, So

691
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:46,679
they get Amy Heckerling just coming off fash Times at

692
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,840
Richemont High and Johnny Danger.

693
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:53,639
Speaker 1: Is dangerously that's right. And you know the the honeymoon couple,

694
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,639
the Garlands. Yes, missus Garland was like the main like

695
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:01,519
the girl and girl in Johnny Danger like his wife

696
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:05,960
or whatever, his girlfriend whatever she is, get out of here. Wow, Okay,

697
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,960
I think he's gonna port her dad. No, he's not

698
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,519
gonna work. He my porkers. That's two episodes in a

699
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:18,679
real got his hand on her boop. All right.

700
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,559
Speaker 3: So do you remember the connection between Harold Ramis and

701
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:22,320
Amy Heckerling.

702
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,039
Speaker 1: Get it out. It's in there. It's in there. Man,

703
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:26,920
you're gonna have to remind me to go. We haven't

704
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,639
got time for me to search you the mental mansion.

705
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:31,880
I know there's something there be, So Harold, Harold, wait wait,

706
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:32,800
they have a child together.

707
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,039
Speaker 3: They have a love child together, that's right.

708
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's an actress too, Molly Heckerling. Molly Heckerling

709
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:43,519
just looked her up. Yes, born September of eighty five.

710
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:48,639
That would mean and that's that's the eighth month this

711
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,000
movie was shot in late eighty four. That would mean

712
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:56,719
the hookup between Harold Ramis and Amy Heckerling was going

713
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,280
on as he was finishing up Ghostbusters and she was

714
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,280
in the process of about to film or finishing filming

715
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:05,960
European Vacation.

716
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,559
Speaker 3: Egan getting some from a fan.

717
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:12,599
Speaker 1: Wow, how about that. Now here's the other thing. Yeah.

718
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,559
Speaker 3: So Amy Heckerling took that experience with Harold Ramis, director

719
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:18,159
of Vacation.

720
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he directed the first vacation, she directed the second one. Yes,

721
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,679
and while she's directing the second one, he impregnates her. Yes,

722
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:26,800
that's crazy. Okay wow.

723
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 3: And from that experience she goes on and makes another movie.

724
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: Uh huh called oh oh, the one with Diane Keaton.

725
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: No, baby Boom, No, it's not baby Boom.

726
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: Look who's talking? Oh that's right, looking with Kirsty Ally,

727
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:44,519
with Kirsty Alley, Oh my gosh. Yeah. And she cast

728
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:46,599
her daughter in those two movies like she was in

729
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:48,639
Look Who's talking? And Look Who's talking? Too, like she

730
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,639
was a baby in one of them and a little

731
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:52,920
girl in the other one. There you go, I think

732
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,239
that's mind blowing. That is crazy. Okay, we just kind

733
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,719
of came up with that on the spot right here.

734
00:37:58,039 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: All right, let's go through the rest of the cast. Okay,

735
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,639
we have Beverly di'angelo back as Ellen Griswold.

736
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:09,079
Speaker 1: Minute you walked in the joint, I could see you

737
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:17,159
a man of distinction a real bit. We talked about

738
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:19,599
her strong memories. Yes, she We talked about her quite

739
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,119
a bit when we talked about every which way but

740
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,800
loose and anyway the way you can remember the.

741
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,599
Speaker 3: Character she played Peaches what was it echo Echo what?

742
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: Yes? And we found out that she had sang backup

743
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,519
for the group that became the band after she left

744
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:38,039
the band.

745
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 3: You know, speaking of bands, we didn't even mention the

746
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,880
fact that Chevy Chase played drums for what would become

747
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:44,679
Steely Dan.

748
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the two like two founding members of Steely Dan

749
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,000
were in a band with Chevy Chase before Steely Dan.

750
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:56,159
I can't remember what the name of the band was though.

751
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,079
That'll be a tribute question for you guys. If you

752
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:01,360
guys know the band name that Chevy Chase was in

753
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,320
with the guys from Steely Dan before they were the

754
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,119
guys from Steely Dan. You tell us in the comments

755
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:12,760
yacht Rock that rock band Steen Henry will come up

756
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:15,199
in any episode we have a chance to bring it up.

757
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,480
Then I think, oh, it's so good.

758
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: They did not like Van labeled yat Rock.

759
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:19,519
Speaker 1: Okay.

760
00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: So in Dana Baron's spot, you have Dana hill Ye

761
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:27,079
who played Audrey. She was in a TV movie called

762
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:30,760
Fallen Angel. Do you remember that I watched that as

763
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,440
a kid. I was talking to Kathy. We both have

764
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:33,159
memories of this.

765
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: It was like.

766
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: A little girl who somehow gets wrapped into like like

767
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,239
a child pornography ring. It was very disturbing.

768
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it in forty years. Oh my goodness.

769
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: But she's like somebody's stepdad is trying to get her

770
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,000
to shoot nudie pictures.

771
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:50,159
Speaker 1: It was very, very disturbing.

772
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,639
Speaker 3: It's like a TV It's like an after school.

773
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,599
Speaker 1: Special type of thing. ROAs Okay, okay.

774
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: The guy who plays Rusty is Jason Lively. Yes, okay,

775
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,320
Now he was in Night of the Creeps.

776
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: You you did an episode I did so.

777
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: Jeff Johnson, Johnson and film my podcast.

778
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: Yes, so check that one out. Okay, everybody here's a

779
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,039
fan of The Knight of the Creeps. Right, good news,

780
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:18,039
good news your dates here, bad news, they're dead. It's

781
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:20,519
such a fun movie. Oh my gosh, real me.

782
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:25,679
Speaker 3: So Jason Lively his mom was like a involved in

783
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,760
casting for movies, which is how he conceived. His sisters

784
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,800
are Robin Lively and Blake Lively.

785
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: Blake Lively married to Ryan Reynolds. Wow wow, how about

786
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,079
that interesting? Okay?

787
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:45,079
Speaker 3: All right, So at the beginning of The Pig and

788
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:47,039
the Pope, you've got John Aston, who we talked about

789
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:47,559
in the.

790
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: Goonies, right because he was the alleged father one of

791
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,760
three possibilities with Patty Duke of Sean Aston.

792
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,039
Speaker 3: Yes, that's true. You also have William Zabka playing Jack.

793
00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:03,159
Speaker 1: Johnny from Karate Kid, which we covered versus Last Dragon.

794
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,320
Go check that episode out.

795
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,679
Speaker 3: And we've built built quite the library. I want to

796
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,920
talk about Mel Smith. We've moved now to England. He

797
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:14,880
is the hotel manager.

798
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you texted me. He's the guy who's speaking English.

799
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,480
Nobody can understand him.

800
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:22,599
Speaker 4: I'm a Clark w Griswold. We're from the United States.

801
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:32,000
Of America, and I believe we have reservations for four now.

802
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,320
The one rules of Cotton. He places full of macaroone

803
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,800
to my own gymans, pap down want travel. Why daddy's

804
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:40,639
speaking English?

805
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: I know?

806
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: And you're like, you know who this guy is? And

807
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:53,920
I text you back the bit of despair. Dispair shouldn't

808
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,599
even think about trying to escape? Yes, So he's in

809
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:57,719
the Princess Bride.

810
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,119
Speaker 1: Original hotel, Clerk. And then while they're in the hotel

811
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,440
and she's in the bath, and Clark walks out whistling

812
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,280
a tune that the other guy overhears, and what was

813
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,440
aus he's walking back in and she thinks she's talking

814
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,360
to Clark. That's Robbie Coltrane, who is very famous for

815
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,960
playing Hagrid in the Harry Potter series. That's right, among

816
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:19,480
many others.

817
00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 3: Obviously, you remember we talked about when Robbie Coltrane made

818
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,880
his feature film debut and all he was doing was

819
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:27,320
unloading a suitcase.

820
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: Was this in a James Bond movie? He was in

821
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,800
a James Bond He was in GoldenEye. Okay, but that

822
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,599
wasn't what I was talking about. You'll have to give

823
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:35,880
it to me. I can't remember he was.

824
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: In Flash Gordon at the very beginning.

825
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: I literally had that thought go through my head and

826
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,039
I was like, no, that's not it.

827
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: Haang it little know no speaking part in that, right, Okay,

828
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,480
all right? You also have Eric Idol, who plays the biker.

829
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 4: Well, I think I got to have it now, Please

830
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,280
please let me help you.

831
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,559
Speaker 1: Oh no, no problem nor no harm, dumb, it doesn't

832
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,079
doesn't hunt much at all.

833
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 4: Let me pay for the damage. Oh good, heavens no,

834
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:10,039
no need for money.

835
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,079
Speaker 1: No, no, best part of the movie, like every time

836
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:17,719
he's in there, I am laughing. And then the throwback

837
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,800
speaking of Monty Python, it all comes full circle. Chevy

838
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,119
Chase gets his SNL part waiting in line for Monty

839
00:43:24,159 --> 00:43:26,760
Python the Holy Grail. Eric Idol, of course, is one

840
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,519
of the main Monty Python guys in The Grail. And

841
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,239
in the Holy Grail you have the battle with the

842
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,960
Black Knight where he cuts off his leg and he's

843
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,960
it's like your legs up, it's a flesh wound. And

844
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,079
Eric Idol re says that line or not Re says it,

845
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:45,320
because it was John Cles originally said it who they

846
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,559
considered for that part. Yeah, absolutely, but yes, brings it

847
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:52,119
all back, so fricking funny. That part is hilarious.

848
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: When he's like pointing, He's like, you go down and

849
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:55,280
and just blood.

850
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: She's like ah, and she's trying to clean his leg.

851
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: He's like, it's just a leg. Honestly, I have another one.

852
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,079
Super funny.

853
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:07,639
Speaker 1: Eric was.

854
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 3: In fact, he and Chevy Chase became friends, so much

855
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,639
so that they thought about making a vacation movie called

856
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,559
Swiss Family. Griswold's I thought it was Vacation Australia. Well,

857
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,280
they had two different ideas. Okay, I think one was

858
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,800
on a cruise ship. Okay, yeah, the vacation Australia. All

859
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,239
they could come up with was a shark attack idea

860
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:31,000
and then they gave up. Still what we could have

861
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:32,360
had there, it would have been funny.

862
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.

863
00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: The only other notable person that I could find in

864
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:40,320
European vacation is the girl from California that Rusty meats

865
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,280
while in Rome. I asked you if you recognized her,

866
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,519
I wouldn't blame it if you didn't. That's Moon Unit Zappa.

867
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,840
That's Frank Zappa's daughter. The song that Valley Girl was

868
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,800
written about, right Beverly DiAngelo was friends with Frank Zappa

869
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,800
and his family, and that's how Moon got that.

870
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,599
Speaker 1: Part musical connection. I bet there you go.

871
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, remember when we talked about Frank Zappa.

872
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,679
Speaker 1: We've talked about him several times, but the biggest story

873
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,320
is when Steve Lukether went into audition for him and

874
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,840
got his head cut. Basically, that's it.

875
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:12,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got embarrassed by Frank Zappa.

876
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So that does it for European Vacation.

877
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,239
We've run out of time for episode one. We will

878
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,199
come back to you episode two, where we will talk

879
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,039
to you about casting and stories on spies like us.

880
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,639
We will talk about a surprising hit song from one

881
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:29,039
of these movies. I'm not gonna tell you what it

882
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:33,519
is yet, but major artist, big hit. You can't think

883
00:45:33,559 --> 00:45:35,760
of it. We couldn't either. All right, you'll join us

884
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,679
next week when we'll talk about that, and then of

885
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,719
course final judgment, who wins the gold, who wins the silver,

886
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,159
and who wins the bronze. In the Chevy Chase nineteen

887
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:58,960
eighty five, Trifecta does the darts and it's like, sorry,

888
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:09,639
promise this never happens. It's funny. Did you switch arms

889
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:11,280
on me here. How Come I got the weedy arm?

890
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 4: Now?

891
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: Oh I did. Sorry, that's okay anyway,