WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:11.880 Five o five at fifty five KRC, the talk station. 2 00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:20.760 Happy Monday is the Happy Monday say, we're looking at it? 3 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:30.440 Well, what the hell? 4 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:33.439 Appropriately times sound by Joe derekor Executi, producer of the 5 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:36.520 five KRC Morning Show. Dude, what the hell? And of 6 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:38.880 course I think everybody familiar with the incident that happened 7 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:41.000 over the weekend knows exactly what I'm talking about. Anyway, 8 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:42.759 Happy Monday too. You trying to make it happy anyway 9 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:44.359 in spite of the reality is what we're dealing with 10 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:47.799 here five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty five hundred, 11 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:50.479 eight hundred eighty two three talk pound five fifty on 12 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:52.200 at and T phones. I'm hoping to hear from some 13 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:54.560 folks this morning. Get the reaction to the violence downtown 14 00:00:54.560 --> 00:01:02.000 Cincinnati just amazing and horrific. It's just like animal like behavior. 15 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:04.640 That's the only way I can really conclude. And you know, 16 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:06.480 sum it up. I mean, there's a million words you 17 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:08.400 can use to try to sum it up, but just 18 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:11.120 stand in awe and disbelief that people could act that 19 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:16.159 way anyhow. Coming up with the fifty five Hereessedy Morning 20 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:18.920 Show to talk about the violent weekend in downtown Cincinni 21 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:24.159 Ken Cober FOP President at seven oh five, followed by yes, 22 00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:26.959 Christopher's Smithman. Gee, what do you think Christopher's smithman is 23 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:30.480 going to talk about in the smith event money money 24 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.680 with Brian James Fed's meeting. Will there be a rate change? 25 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:37.480 I saw some people are projecting maybe a rate increase. 26 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:39.640 We'll see what Brian James has to say about that. 27 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:42.000 I do not expect to drop in the interest rate. Though, 28 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:45.040 tariff deal with European Union. Congratulation Donald Trump of the 29 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:47.519 team for well working things out with the European Union, 30 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:51.560 fifteen percent tariff on European imports and the promise of 31 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:54.480 six hundred billion dollars in investment in the United States 32 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.799 along with some arms sales. We'll talk about that. We'll 33 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:00.439 talk about the ongoing talks with China which are kicking 34 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:03.000 in hopefully we'll get some resolution on tariffs with China 35 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:06.719 as well. And corporate earnings are coming out this week. 36 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:09.560 How's the market going to react to that? And welcome 37 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:11.719 back Rabbi Ari Jun He'll be in studio at eight 38 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:14.360 thirty to talk about the Robling Bridge protests. He's a 39 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:18.479 little upset that the well the shutdown of the bridge 40 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:20.439 and the police response is shut down of the bridge 41 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:24.000 took away from what the actual protest was about. And 42 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:26.840 Rabbi Ari Jun always welcome to get his thoughts in 43 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:28.719 comments here in the fifty five Cassi Morning Show. He's 44 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:30.759 a pretty decent guy. I'm not sure I agree with 45 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:33.000 his conclusions on that, but we'll find out together at 46 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:36.759 eight thirty on it. Anyhow, three five Caresey dot com 47 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:39.360 get your iHeartMedia so you can stream the audio wherever 48 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:43.560 you happen to be get the podcast. 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Now, this is not something the 68 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:47.759 city of Cincinnati wants to make it on the map 69 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:51.560 for it, but there it is. Go to Foxnews dot com, 70 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:55.000 Go to New York Post, go to this. It's all over, 71 00:03:55.800 --> 00:04:00.280 of course, the viral video and it's actually, you know, 72 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.159 it's interesting, and it kind of is troubling to me. 73 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:06.439 You can't unring the internet bell. Once it's out there 74 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:09.199 and it's been posted, it's there forever in some place, way, 75 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:12.680 shape or form. But the Facebook and several other sites 76 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:17.680 I suppose have since embedded or prevented the sharing of 77 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:23.920 the video of the fight. Why isn't this something we 78 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:28.000 all should see and appreciate, for the horror and the 79 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.759 well de evolution of mankind that it actually is so 80 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:32.879 we can talk about it, maybe spread the word and 81 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:36.519 maybe all collectively together step back and say we need 82 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:40.839 to stop this immediately. Of course, these people need to 83 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:44.040 be held accountable for the absolute horrific violence. I mean, 84 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.480 some may argue it was attempted murder. You got a 85 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:50.240 guy laying on the ground and people who had Really 86 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:52.439 it doesn't appear to have anything to do with the 87 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:57.160 original verbal altercation that they keeps suggesting starting all this all. No, 88 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:59.399 it had nothing to do with the music festival. No, 89 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:01.920 but it was the festival that brought ninety thousand people 90 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:05.000 to downtown Cincinnati, congregating in a tight space that may 91 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:07.800 have led to the verbal altercation. Do we stop doing 92 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:14.959 music festivals? Or or will you stop going to events 93 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:20.160 that draw large groups of people in downtown Cincinnati? Is 94 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:22.600 this event? Have you watched the video? Does it change 95 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:25.040 your perception of downtown CINCINNTI? Does it make you want 96 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.839 to go downtown? And have you reached a conclusion that 97 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.120 you know, you used to go downtown and used to 98 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.439 really enjoy it, but now you're like, you know what, 99 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:39.000 it's not worth it. Why take the chance? I go 100 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:45.199 someplace else It's easier to park someplace else. It's easier 101 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.519 to stay out in the suburbs. The experts, it's easier 102 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:49.800 to eat. It's easier. You know, there's a multitude of 103 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:54.839 reasons why, beyond the potential for violence, that you might 104 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:58.439 choose to go someplace else for your entertainment and or 105 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:04.519 dining enjoyment. I mean, the city of Cincinnati's in competition 106 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:07.639 with the entire tri state area when it comes to 107 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:11.879 within driving distance, and there are multitudes of opportunities within 108 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:19.319 downtown since at driving distance. But so you get into 109 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:21.439 a fight. Fights happened all the time. We read about 110 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:23.480 it quite often, quite often in the stack of stupid 111 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:25.720 There'll be two people du can get out. Maybe a 112 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:28.319 couple of family members get involved because they're right there, 113 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:31.800 but strangers, and it looks and it appears to be 114 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:36.279 random people joining in the beat down, running from the 115 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:40.680 sidelines and kicking this poor guy who's already on the ground. 116 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.439 To the extent there was a fight between two people, 117 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:50.920 the white guy in the white T shirt lost to 118 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:54.000 the extent he represented a threat to anyone. He no 119 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:56.759 longer represented a threat he was on the ground, and 120 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:00.199 yet the people continue to pour over and kick him 121 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:07.560 and punch him, step on him, kick him in the head. 122 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.680 And then, if you think things can't get any worse, 123 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:19.040 some random dudes, seemingly out of nowhere, just hauls off 124 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:25.199 and punches a seemingly innocent woman, certainly not representing any 125 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:28.800 threat to society or anybody there in the crowd. Punches 126 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:35.879 are square in the face and knocks her out, lay 127 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:38.639 on their on the ground, completely knocked out and bleeding. 128 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:48.399 Will there be any accountability? And here's a test for 129 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:51.240 the city of Cincinnati and its residence. How many people 130 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:52.319 do you think were around there? 131 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:52.560 Joe? 132 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:57.639 You would say about one hundred you ever take, just 133 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:00.319 to pull out of my sphincter. Number a lot of people, 134 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:08.439 which means a lot of witnesses. And everyone had their 135 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:10.079 camera out. You're right, Joe, And that's one of the 136 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:12.120 criticisms been coming out. We're gonna have Ken Cobra on 137 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:13.759 And that was one of the things that he commented on. 138 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:16.480 Why is it that everybody was standing around with their 139 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:18.480 video cameras out and there was only one nine to 140 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:24.040 one one call apparently one police didn't even know about it. 141 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:27.000 How do you expect law enforcement to come in and 142 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:31.639 render assistance in times of societal breakdown if nobody bothers 143 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:34.960 to alert the police department. That's going on question number two. 144 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:38.519 Don't you think when there's a crowd of ninety thousand 145 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:42.039 people gathered for a music festival in downtown Cincinnati there 146 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:44.519 might be a well, I don't know, perhaps substantial police 147 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:52.519 presence around. I don't know that they necessarily have been 148 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:55.360 standing at fourth and Elm Street. It's kind of a 149 00:08:55.480 --> 00:09:03.080 rather innocuous area. That's where it all went down. But 150 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:06.159 with that many people around, how many witnesses do you 151 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:09.480 think could identify the people who were responsible for engaging 152 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:15.000 in this horrific activity? Asked yourself this, If it was 153 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:17.600 one of your family members and you knew that they 154 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:21.080 were the ones that punched that woman directly in the face, 155 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:24.840 would you drop a dime on a family member? If 156 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:26.480 it was your buddy from down the street that you 157 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:28.360 hang out with, would you let the police know that 158 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:29.879 it was your buddy from down the street that you 159 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:34.600 can't identify as the person who just beat the living 160 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:38.039 crap out of that guy or punched that woman square 161 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:47.080 in the face when she was bothering no one. If 162 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:48.519 there were more people in the world that would be 163 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:50.720 willing to do that in the name of law and order. 164 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:54.159 Maybe we would have fewer incidents like this, but we're 165 00:09:54.200 --> 00:10:00.080 on the map now, folks. Elon Musk even commented on it, 166 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:08.879 and I was reminded in so far as nobody nobody 167 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:12.000 bothering to call the police or render assistance, except maybe 168 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:14.679 the woman got punched in the face, anybody bothering to 169 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:17.320 render assistance there was more likely got to get beat down. 170 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:18.840 It's like one of those things. Wait a second, am 171 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:20.480 I going to risk my neck to go and try 172 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:23.399 to help a total stranger who's the subject of an 173 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:27.360 absolute brutal assault? Here? I am one guy. M that 174 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:29.919 looks like there's twenty people taking a turn of beating 175 00:10:29.960 --> 00:10:32.440 somebody up. Is there anything I can do about it? 176 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:34.240 To render eight or assistance? Now, let me get my 177 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:36.639 cell phone on just video it. How about doing a 178 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:38.799 nine to one one call first, just to make sure 179 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:41.440 someone has called the police, and then move on with 180 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:44.639 videotaping so you can be the one with the viral 181 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:49.720 video online. I don't know, maybe there's a presumption in 182 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:52.799 the entire crowd that somebody had to have called the police. 183 00:10:52.799 --> 00:11:03.080 This is getting out of hand, But Coober who will 184 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:06.120 be on again seven oh five FOP president criticizing the 185 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:09.120 bystanders for recording the incident rather than intervening the help. 186 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.039 And I guess I can understand again on some level 187 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:15.039 why someone might not want to get in the middle 188 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:16.840 of the melee to help, for fear for their own 189 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:22.960 safety and perhaps life. But it reminded me of the 190 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:27.639 last episode of Seinfeld. Remember they got arrested for violating 191 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:30.799 the community's good Samaritan law by not intervening to help 192 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:32.799 a victim of a crime. They just stood there and 193 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:35.679 watched and made jokes about it. That's what we're witnessing 194 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:38.799 here that last Seinfeld episode. I think it was nineteen 195 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:43.720 ninety eight. So here's life's imitating a comedy to some degree, 196 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:47.519 although perhaps the Seinfeld episode was in fact inspired by 197 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:49.919 life and reality. More people are willing to stand around 198 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:52.279 and not do a damn thing than help out their 199 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:54.919 well brother, man or sister, as the case may be 200 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:06.840 unbelievable and a great ad campaign. And let me ask 201 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:09.000 this question out loud for anybody who's been paying attention 202 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.679 to the you know, I always give Joe credit, Joe 203 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:14.320 Drecker credit for being Internet research guru and you know, 204 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:17.080 I'm considering myself pretty decent when it comes to internet research. 205 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:21.679 Both of us this morning searching somewhere for some statement 206 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.960 from the mayor aft tab parval. Both of us came 207 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:28.240 up with nothing. The only reference to aff tab Parvall 208 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:30.559 was from others saying, how come we haven't heard from 209 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.120 the mayor of the city of Cincinnati on this issue. Hell, 210 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.279 the vice mayor showed up and at least said something 211 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:38.240 to the press. If you were the mayor of the 212 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:40.799 City of Cincinnati, don't you think it'd be critically important 213 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:43.480 for you to get out there and say something, maybe 214 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:51.919 supportive of the police, maybe can condemn the violence. Something. Hell, 215 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:53.759 it's an easy thing to come up with a statement 216 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:56.399 under these circumstances. You got people of all political stripes 217 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:03.080 condemning it. How can you do anything otherwise? Not a peep? 218 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:07.600 Where is he anyway? Seven five eighteen fifty five KC 219 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:10.240 Talk station Mark, Hang on a minute, brother, if you 220 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:12.360 don't mind holding over the short break here, I will 221 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:14.039 take your call right out of the gate. I'll be 222 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:19.159 right back fifty five car the talk station. Our iHeartRadio Music. 223 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:21.559 Five twenty one fifty five krcy De Talk station. A 224 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:23.399 very happy Monday to you trying to make it so anyway, 225 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:25.799 feel free to call interested in your thoughts and comments 226 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:30.000 about the brawl downtown, and Mark is on the phone. Mark, 227 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.679 thanks so much for holding over the breake there. Welcome 228 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:32.360 to the Morning Show. 229 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:37.559 Good morning, Brian. You stated a lot of things that 230 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:40.879 I was already thinking, so I won't waste time repeating that, 231 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:45.720 but I will say some things that maybe you're not 232 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:48.879 able to or you know, I don't know you. I 233 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:51.120 know you don't have anybody telling you what you think 234 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:53.200 to say it can't say but correct. 235 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:54.519 You know, we talked. 236 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:57.279 About violence in this city, and let's face it, in 237 00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:03.440 every other major city across the gun and you know, 238 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.039 the elephant in the room is not the Amish kids 239 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:10.360 doing it. It's not the Indian kids, the Japanese kids, 240 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:13.879 it's not even the white kids. It's always one race 241 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.399 of people that are committing ninety nine percent of the 242 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:19.559 violent crime in this country. And when you see this 243 00:14:19.720 --> 00:14:24.000 type of behavior, you have people standing around somebody, and 244 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:28.799 even if the guy was intoxicated, okay, you have people 245 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:33.240 standing around cheering while this guy's literally getting his head 246 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:39.080 stomped into the pavement. And they're cheering it. And then 247 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:40.840 you have a woman that's trying to come up and 248 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:43.320 I don't know if it was his wife, I don't know, 249 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:47.720 you know, obviously what the relationship was there that was 250 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:51.840 concerned for his well being. And as she's getting pulled 251 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:55.399 backwards by another woman, that's when the guy hauls off 252 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:59.440 in pull copser And I mean, my wife showed me 253 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:02.120 the video, the second video that was going around with 254 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:05.519 this poor woman's laying on the ground, her eyes are 255 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:08.279 wide open. My wife thought she was dead at that moment, 256 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:11.519 you know, and I heard later that she did regain consciousness, 257 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:14.759 but she looked she looked like she was dead. And 258 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:19.120 these people are literally cheering and people I'll lose that. 259 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:25.960 I'll use that term loosely because it's animal behavior and 260 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:30.840 it happens more often than not. But again, if there 261 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:36.080 were pats of white teenagers or white people running around 262 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:43.120 committing crimes like this, the outrage in the community with 263 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:53.240 the absolutely off the charts and this this behavior is overlooked. 264 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:57.159 And I'm sorry, Teresa Fiji, she's a choke. And the 265 00:15:57.679 --> 00:16:01.840 Cincinnati police, my first response was, where's the police presence 266 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:03.960 down there? You know, you had and when I heard 267 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:06.320 that the music festival was going on this weekend and 268 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:08.919 I moved out of Ohio. I got tired of whole 269 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:12.159 in the circus down there, and I will never spend 270 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:15.279 a dime of money in Hamilton County, down in that 271 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:21.440 entertainment so called entertainment district. It's ridiculous the behavior that 272 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:25.320 is accepted. And I understand from the police standpoint that 273 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:28.960 they've pulled back time and time again because every time 274 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:31.679 they turn around and tried to do something, they're accused 275 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:36.879 to be racist, they're accused of profiling, their sued, they'd 276 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:40.399 lose their job. I have an ex brother in law 277 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:44.159 that was a Cincinnati officer that retired from the Cincinnati fource. 278 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.440 This is going back twenty five years ago. He said 279 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:51.480 that the amount of crime that was covered up back 280 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:54.960 then by the police department and by the city of 281 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:59.480 stuff that went on downtown would blow people's minds, and 282 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:03.240 it's still happening today. They were more worried about making 283 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:06.359 sure that it wasn't connected to the music festival. 284 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:10.200 Yeah, oh crap. Well, I mean that anytime you get 285 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:13.079 a bunch of people packed in one space, the opportunity 286 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:15.240 for something like this to happen is going to increase. 287 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:18.519 It's just the normal reality. More interactions with strangers, more 288 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:21.559 opportunities to bump into each other, spill a beer on somebody, 289 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:25.160 make some sort of off color, offhand comment, more people 290 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:26.799 hear at the opp and we seem to be in 291 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:30.400 a more violent society. But addressing your racial point, I 292 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.119 don't know, Mark right as of right now, is this 293 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:37.000 a racially motivated attack? One could draw that conclusion, but 294 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:40.839 it's never drawn immediately when it's attacked by black folks 295 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:43.839 on white folks, but it's immediately assumed that it was 296 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:47.160 racial if it's the polar opposite to your point. That's 297 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:50.559 why anything the police do has this taint at Oh, 298 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:53.160 it was racially motivated, because we live in an inherently 299 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:56.279 racial society, and people will jump to that conclusion immediately 300 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:59.279 because they get away with it. You know, go ahead 301 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:03.119 call it racist. Everybody's accused of being a racist for 302 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:07.279 literally anything anybody does anymore, and it's become such a 303 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:10.119 default position that, you know, I think people will grown 304 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:11.559 callous to it. As a matter of fact. It's funny 305 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:13.839 because I've read a couple of op ed pieces on 306 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:16.519 that very point of late, go ahead, call me racist. 307 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:19.240 Whatever I did, it wasn't born of racism. I had 308 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:22.839 a logical, reasonable means or motivation to do whatever I 309 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:24.680 did or say whatever I said. And I can defend 310 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:26.920 myself all day long. So yeah, I'm not afraid of 311 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:34.079 being called racist anymore. But when it is the opposite, 312 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:38.799 that rush to conclusion is embraced and parroted, often in 313 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:42.519 the press before the facts are known. And anybody listens 314 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:44.160 to the morning show knows that I'm not the person 315 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.839 who will jump to conclusions, and I'm the one that's 316 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:48.880 willing to sit down and make the point they listen, 317 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:52.240 keep your popcorn out, wait for the information to come out. 318 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:55.039 It's easy to draw conclusions based upon what you saw, 319 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:57.960 but you really don't know why did the fight start. 320 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:00.720 Maybe the guy that got the beat down, un deserved 321 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.759 as it was, Maybe he said something horrific to the 322 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:06.079 guy who started the fight with him. We don't know. 323 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:14.960 But whatever that, if that happened, does it justify the reaction? 324 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:20.119 Does it justify a crowd of people who you know? 325 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:22.599 And here's an assumption I will draw the vast majority 326 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:26.039 of people I'm sure have no idea what started that interaction. 327 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:29.960 Maybe a handful of them did, but I cannot imagine 328 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:32.000 that twenty or thirty people that appear to have joined 329 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:35.759 in the beat down really had some understanding of what 330 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:38.880 started it. They just saw somebody beating this guy on 331 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:47.319 the ground and thought it was a funny thing. So 332 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:50.519 this is the kind of discussion that arises after something 333 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:52.480 like this, and it's an important discussion to have, and 334 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:55.680 it's an important analysis to walk through. But stepping back 335 00:19:55.720 --> 00:20:01.319 from whatever brought about this horrific event, what we see, though, 336 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:06.079 cannot be supported or justified. There is no one on 337 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:08.519 this planet who can say that that was appropriate or 338 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.519 acceptable by way of behavior from the folks that joined 339 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:15.279 in and just continually pounded that guy into the pavement 340 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:19.279 and then just again Cole cocked up seemingly innocent woman. 341 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:21.880 I'll underscore seemingly again because I don't know. But the 342 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:24.559 video evidence does not suggest she was doing anything other 343 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:28.559 than trying to render aid. Five twenty eight fifty five 344 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:31.000 Kasity Talk Station. Love to hear from you, call me up, 345 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:33.359 just give me your interject your thoughts and comments on 346 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:34.559 this be right back. 347 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:36.359 Here's what's trending now. 348 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:39.880 Three seven eight Hundy two three talk found by fifty 349 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:43.000 on eighteen and t phone. He's something Joe Drecker observed 350 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.319 that I hadn't caught on too, that they didn't start 351 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.920 reporting in the local news until six pm Saturday evening 352 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:51.720 for something that happened, this horrific event that happened overnight 353 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:53.599 on our Friday night at three o'clock in the morning, 354 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:58.920 nobody was reporting on it. The only reason, Joe concludes 355 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:01.119 he's allowed to hear reach his own conclusions. Of course, 356 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.799 it's because it went viral on Facebook and elsewhere in 357 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:07.119 social media. The video was posted all over the place. 358 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:09.400 How could you do? How could you not report on 359 00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:13.480 this incident any other interesting component? And again I wasn't 360 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:17.480 watching Sherry Pallo or Atrician Mackie. They claimed they weren't 361 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:20.279 allowed to show the video because they didn't have permission. 362 00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:25.079 Is that the gist of it, Joe, That's what they said. Well, 363 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:28.759 let me just throw a giant Barbara streisand flag on 364 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:31.880 that this was a public, outdoor thing. They got, you 365 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:36.920 don't need permission from anybody to post the video, most 366 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:40.720 notably since it literally was viral on the internet. Oh look, look, 367 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:42.480 I can report about a story that's on the internet 368 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:44.720 and involves a viral video. Let me see what Tom's 369 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:46.519 got this morning. Tom, Welcome to the Morning Show and 370 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:47.279 happy Monday to you. 371 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:50.799 Hey, good morning. I hope you had a good weekend. 372 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:53.720 Well, actually I had a great weekend other than having to, 373 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:56.279 you know, psychologically deal with the sad reality of what 374 00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:57.599 we're talking about this morning. 375 00:21:59.000 --> 00:21:59.240 Yeah. 376 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:01.599 Oh, and it looked like next weekend ought to be 377 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:05.000 really nice weatherwise. I took a peek of the forecast 378 00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:08.119 down the road here Thursday, Friday, canaday. We're gonna get 379 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:09.200 some relief from this heat. 380 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:13.680 So, oh, thank you. There you go, Tom, There you go. 381 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:16.160 Looking for something positive in the world. 382 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:22.079 Good man, I'm nothing if I'm not positive thinking brou 383 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:28.400 uh uh. Anyway, Yeah, it basically comes down to who's 384 00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:33.119 willing to scream the loudest and make the biggest fuss uh. 385 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:35.119 You know, kind of like the five year old in 386 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:38.240 the store doesn't get his way. I'm gonna scream and 387 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:40.359 chess and throw myself on the ground and act like 388 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:40.880 I'm dying. 389 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:42.079 It's the same. 390 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:45.759 Old thing, nothing new, So you have one. One side 391 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:50.000 of the argument is easily trying to to be uh. 392 00:22:50.319 --> 00:22:53.240 I don't know, to have some order to it, try 393 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:56.359 to figure out what's going on, put a little you know, reason, 394 00:22:56.440 --> 00:22:58.519 and then they lose their cool little bit here and there, 395 00:22:58.519 --> 00:23:00.599 but you know, hey, let's figure this out. And then 396 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:04.079 the other side is just flailing and screaming in one 397 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:07.160 hundred percent of motion because they're not getting their way. 398 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:09.440 And that's what it comes down to, doing this, this 399 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:13.240 whole thing with with crime downtown. These people want to 400 00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:16.759 be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want, 401 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:20.240 however they want. They don't want to be stopped. So 402 00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:23.119 as soon as someone tries to stop them, they'll come 403 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:27.000 up with anything they can scream and yell and holler 404 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:31.160 or whatever and to make a fuss so that you'll leave. 405 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:33.480 Oh wait, well I'm going to leave them a little whoa. 406 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:35.240 I don't want to be involved in that. Now you 407 00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:37.119 got to be involved in it. You got to step 408 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:40.680 in and go if if you have any responsibility in this, 409 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:43.519 you got to step in and say no, that's not okay, 410 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:45.640 not gonna deal with it. Here's what I'm gonna do. 411 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:47.640 And I'm not going to scream and yell like you are, 412 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:50.440 but I'm going to take this away or I'm going 413 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:52.480 to not do this or I'm going to do my 414 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.319 job and do this. And I know it's difficult because 415 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:59.000 these people are flailing and screaming and crying, bloody murder 416 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:02.039 and all that, but adults have to do the job 417 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:04.680 that they've been they've been elected to and hired to do, 418 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:08.599 and voters don't vote Democrat. Have a great day, Brian, All. 419 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:14.319 Right, thanks Tom. Appreciated police Chief Scott Hughes a Hamilton Township. 420 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:16.200 It had some interesting comments as well. There were a 421 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:19.200 bunch of people, noted notables city officials that actually came 422 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:23.160 out loud and said something. Vice Marilyn Kearney said something. 423 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:26.519 Cecil Thomas offering an opinion. Mark Jefferies since at countsmen 424 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:28.799 offered an opinion saying, you know, prosecute them to the 425 00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:32.839 fullest extent of the law. Yes, exactly. Barney Morinho had 426 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:41.279 a comment. Veg Ramaswam he had a comment, Mary have 427 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.519 to have purval. Nothing as to Hamilton Township police Chief 428 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:47.920 Scott Hughes. Before I take a break here, what happened 429 00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:49.960 on Fourth Street in Cincinnati wasn't just a fight. It 430 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:53.000 was a breakdown of order, decency, and accountability. Caught on 431 00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:55.480 video and cheered on by a crowd. This isn't just 432 00:24:55.559 --> 00:25:01.480 Cincinnati's problem, it's ours. Two. He pointed out, the incidents 433 00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:04.000 in the city don't just stay here in the city. Quote. 434 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:09.839 The perception of danger ripples across the region, discouraging residents 435 00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:12.839 from visiting downtown's many events and attractions. Quote. Families stop 436 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:16.920 going out, businesses stop investing. Cities lose the very momentum 437 00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:19.720 they worked to build. This video isn't just another viral moment. 438 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.720 It's a warning shot. We can either raise our voices 439 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:29.160 or watch silence fund the chaos. I thought that was 440 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:32.000 one of the more astute comments and well done Scott 441 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:36.160 Use Hamilton Township police chief. And maybe that's what there 442 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:38.680 wasn't much reporting. Maybe that's why the mayor hasn't said anything. 443 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.160 He wants to ignore it and pretend as though it 444 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:46.440 didn't happen. Why because the optics are terrible. If you're 445 00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:49.440 in Poughkeepsie, Iowa, and you're thinking about moving your business, 446 00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:54.559 I don't know why I pick on Poughkeepsie. Are you 447 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:57.920 going to consider the city of Cincinnati now? Would you 448 00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:00.839 be like, you know, what it does doesn't sound very 449 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:04.039 good down there. I've been reading a lot lately and yeah, 450 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:09.839 exactly no, thank you Dad from beyond five point thirty seven. 451 00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:12.119 Right now, Jay, I will take your call and happy 452 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:13.599 to do so just a minute, be right back. 453 00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:18.519 This is fifty five krc and iHeartRadio Station by forty. 454 00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:21.559 One thirty by KRCD Talk station five one three seven 455 00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:24.480 fifty five hundred evenit EQ three times by fifty on 456 00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:26.400 AT and T phones. Over to the phones. Got a 457 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:27.839 couple of callers on long. We're going to start with Jay, 458 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.640 who's kinding up the whole Jay, thanks for holding over 459 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:30.839 the break. Welcome back my friend. 460 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:35.559 Hey, Thanks Brian, Hey, it's speaking on a violence of 461 00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:39.440 what's going on downtown. I think there's one organization who 462 00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:42.839 can who's uniquely qualified to step up and be the 463 00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:46.839 bridge between the community the police and be in a 464 00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:49.319 position to mentor and coach and get ahold of these 465 00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:53.720 young people before they ruin their lives and maybe change 466 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:58.480 the culture, and that is the NAACP. They're very vocal, 467 00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:04.240 they're very welsome, want well connected, politically well funded, and 468 00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:07.759 it strikes me that if this was the other way 469 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.720 around it, there was a there was a black person 470 00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:12.960 that was beat down by a group of white people, 471 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.880 they would have already been organized and marching in the streets. 472 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:19.359 But where are they now? 473 00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:21.279 And maybe they've made a statement. 474 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:22.759 I want to be fair to them. 475 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:27.519 But unless we want Cincinnati to turn into Detroit, and 476 00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:30.119 it looks like that's the trajectory that it's going, that 477 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:35.240 it's going on where there's abandoned houses and empty factories 478 00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:40.000 and no more investment, that somebody and some of these 479 00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:45.640 community organizations better step up and not be real judicious 480 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:49.599 about what the situation is. If if the community needs 481 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.720 help and the community needs support, and if somebody needs 482 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.359 to step in and coach and mentor and get in 483 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:56.400 front of this thing. 484 00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:02.640 Then I'm waiting to hear from the NAAS, who again 485 00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:05.680 I think has all the funding, has all the influence 486 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:09.359 they can get in front of this, and I would 487 00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:12.880 love to hear from them on what their ideas are 488 00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.640 of what the root cause is the corrective action here. 489 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.440 Jay, I think it's an outstanding idea. I really do. 490 00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.319 I can't think of, you know, better use of their 491 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:26.720 organization's you know, microphone, their power, their platform. Yeah, it'll 492 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:28.079 be nice to see them come out and try to 493 00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:30.720 support law enforcement and tell the community you know, listen, 494 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.200 this is just unacceptable. We can I don't think it's 495 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.680 it's even in dispute that what we saw cannot be defended. 496 00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.720 So why not join in the ever growing number of 497 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:44.359 people who have actually come out normally folks that you 498 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.839 might not associate with being tough on crime, saying we 499 00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:50.359 need to prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. 500 00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:52.880 We need to find the people who did this and 501 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:57.319 prosecute them. Prosecutor's office and we judges who are willing 502 00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:02.000 to meet out the highest level of punishment to serve 503 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.400 as a deterrent to others who might consider this to 504 00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:08.759 be an appropriate way of addressing the a breakdown situation. 505 00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.400 Wait a second, I'm not gonna be involved in this. 506 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:12.839 I'm not gonna go over and kick a guy when 507 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:14.680 he's on the ground. I saw what happened to the 508 00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:20.000 last guy who did that, and he's serving time. I'll pass. 509 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.359 Welcome to the point of a criminal justice system, Larry, 510 00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:26.200 Welcome to the program. Thanks for calling this morning, and 511 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:27.039 happy Monday to you. 512 00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.559 Yeah yeah, happy Monday. Hey. 513 00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:33.119 People call him this a fight. 514 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:33.759 I didn't. 515 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:35.559 I didn't see a fight. All I saw was this 516 00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.559 poor god shielding his self. I didn't see him throwing 517 00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:42.400 any punches, and when he got foot knocked to the ground. 518 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:43.960 He was gret people were trying to kick him. 519 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:45.400 They were kicking, they. 520 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:47.279 Were kicking him, and he was trying to grab their 521 00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.599 legs well and shield hisself from the attack. A fight 522 00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:56.799 is when two people fight each other and. 523 00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:59.559 Larry but the only point only. You're not wrong on that, 524 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:02.920 but most people, at least as I understand it, aren't 525 00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:07.480 walking around just constantly filming random people, not engaged in 526 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.960 physical altercations or verbal altercations. So what's missing here is 527 00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:14.880 the five minutes or however many minutes leading up to 528 00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:17.839 the moment the video begins when it does look like 529 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:21.359 some people are engaged in some kind of quarrel, the 530 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.119 guy that ultimately got the severe beatdown and one other guy. 531 00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.920 So I don't know, but what we do have is 532 00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:31.039 everything that happened after that, which is the unacceptable, inexcusable 533 00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:33.599 conduct of so many people. Right. 534 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:35.359 Well, I saw a report this morning come on my 535 00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.799 phone that they they got footage now before it started, 536 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:42.599 what was what started it? But anyway, also, yeah, that's 537 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:44.400 what it come on my phone. I don't know where 538 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:47.359 it's at or whatever, what station or what news stations. 539 00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:50.400 But sure, wonder what the result would have been if 540 00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.119 this poor guy pulled a nine millimeter glock out of 541 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:56.759 his waistband and started defending himself by shooting these people. 542 00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:58.599 Wonder what would have what would have. 543 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:05.880 Well happened from from a legal perspective, If you fear 544 00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:08.000 for your life and that fear is legitimate, and I 545 00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:09.880 don't think anybody can argue that the man that is 546 00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:13.400 getting kicked and beaten on the ground had a legitimate 547 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:15.880 fear that he was gonna get killed, right, then then 548 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.079 you're justifiable and using deadly force. The question is who's 549 00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.240 the recipient of the deadly force. Is it someone who's 550 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.839 administering the beatdown that gave rise to your legitimate concern 551 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:28.839 or is it some random individual filming in the crowd 552 00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.400 that takes the bullet that you intend for the person 553 00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:34.079 beating you down. There's your critical problem when it comes 554 00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:36.799 to self defense and the use of deadly force. You know, 555 00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:38.640 there's a lot you got to process in your head 556 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:40.519 before you use deadly force. And that's why it comes 557 00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.880 down to the instant time, moment and time. Was it 558 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:46.839 reasonable at the time for you to believe your life 559 00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:49.559 was in jeopardy or you're in fear of grievous bodily horrible. 560 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.400 He was experiencing grievous bodily harm right then, So yes, 561 00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:57.079 I think under those circumstances, deadly force may have been justifiable. 562 00:31:57.319 --> 00:31:59.119 But in the aftermath, and when we all look at 563 00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:02.759 it with a lens of twenty hindsight, did the person 564 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:06.799 who got the bullet? Is that the person who was 565 00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:09.119 deserving of the bullet because they were the one that 566 00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:13.000 gave rise to that fear. It's a tough thing to 567 00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:15.039 have to contend with when you're the one that's getting 568 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:18.680 the that is under that that fear. 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Five one, three, seven, four, nine, 604 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:10.679 fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to three Talk 605 00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:13.480 pound five fifty on AT and T phones. Ken Cobra, 606 00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:15.239 FLP President's going to join us in an hour to 607 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:17.840 talk about that. He was interviewed by Local twelve. Got 608 00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:19.519 a couple of comments from kend to talk about here 609 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.119 in a moment, Christopher Smitheman with a Monday Morning Smith 610 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.159 event from the former vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati. 611 00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:28.000 Ge I wonder what he's gonna say. Yeah, it is Monday. 612 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.599 We'll still do money money with Brian James. Fed meeting tomorrow. 613 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.800 Apparently a lot of discussion about whether or not to 614 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:34.960 be a rate change. Some are hoping it goes down, 615 00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.400 some are suggesting it needs to go up because of inflation, 616 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:42.039 tariff deal with the European Union, congratulations of Trump fifteen percent, 617 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.559 and a promise of billions of dollars investment from Europe. 618 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.840 Some I'm critical of that. I know the Wall Street 619 00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:49.679 Journal didn't think it was that great of a deal, 620 00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.079 but they're allowed, They're entitled to their opinion. I'm just 621 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.599 happy it got resolved. We'll have to sit back and 622 00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:56.679 wait and find out how it impacts us, but most 623 00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:59.679 people applauding the effort. Corporate earnings coming out this week 624 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.280 as well those subjects with Brian James. At eight oh five, 625 00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:05.519 Rabbi rijn returns to the program we've had him on previously. 626 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.719 He's going to talk about the Robling Bridge protest. Apparently 627 00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:10.760 he's under the impression it didn't accomplish what it was 628 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:13.599 supposed to because of the shut down of the bridge 629 00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:17.079 and the subsequent police involvement and arrests of those who 630 00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:19.599 were violating the law by shutting down the bridge. So 631 00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.079 Rabbi John in studio, looking forward to seeing him again 632 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:26.119 the informative opinions he has. Uh, let us see here 633 00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.199 real quick here before I get to the calls in 634 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:31.000 Matt and Bobby just to hold on a moment. Ken 635 00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:34.840 Kober again interviewed by Channel twelve, I said, obviously we 636 00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.199 have the videos. We know we're going to be able 637 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:38.800 to have some help there and figure out who the 638 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.679 people are. The police have already interviewed the victims of 639 00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:44.159 the beat down. They're going to be using the city 640 00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:46.639 cameras in the area, which we haven't seen yet. To 641 00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:48.760 the best of my knowledge, that has not been released yet. 642 00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:51.039 But apparently there are some city cameras that captured some 643 00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:57.519 or maybe even all of this, and there have been 644 00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:02.360 some who have made have tippedaled. Several tips have been received. 645 00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:05.280 He's asking the public for itself, saying quo, there are 646 00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:08.519 still some people that have not been identified. Me that 647 00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:10.800 suggests to me they've already identified some of the perps. 648 00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:14.519 I would ask the public play a part in this 649 00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.639 because stuff like this shouldn't happen in our city, but 650 00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:18.599 when it does, we need people to step forward. That 651 00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.320 way we can bring these people to justice. Amen. And 652 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.360 I mentioned at the last hour, if this was a 653 00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:25.280 buddy of yours from down the street, you were there. 654 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.320 You watched him walk over and start beating on a 655 00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.480 man who's already on the ground, or you know the 656 00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:32.880 guy that punched that woman square in the face, but 657 00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:34.840 have to be an acquaintance of yours, maybe even a 658 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.239 family member. Would you call the police and let them 659 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.280 know who that guy is if you know definitively it 660 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:41.119 was someone you were there, I saw it. It was 661 00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:46.360 that guy. It's Joe from down the block. Now we 662 00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:48.679 live in a world where we're willing to alienate our 663 00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:52.119 own family members because they happen to be Trump supporters. 664 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:53.679 If you're not going to pick up a phone call 665 00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:55.920 and call your brother, your sister because you disagree with 666 00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:59.960 them politically, don't you think this is a bigger thing 667 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.440 thing to want to just sort of terminate a friendship 668 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:04.760 or a relationship over. I don't want to be friends 669 00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.119 with someone who would punch up and walk up and 670 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.880 punch a woman square in the face for any reason. 671 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:16.719 That's not someone I want to be associated with. And 672 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.000 we've got multitude of people down there, you who you 673 00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.280 know who the ones were that were committing all these 674 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:26.320 heinous acts of violence. You maybe even have information to 675 00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:28.920 know how the whole thing started. That would be helpful 676 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.679 for police, and you'd serve as an example to everybody 677 00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:34.800 else out in the world that you should cooperate with 678 00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.639 police and you should bring these folks to justice. But 679 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.760 there but for the grace of God, go I. Next 680 00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:41.800 time you're downtime, maybe you're enjoying a show at the 681 00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:44.119 Brady Center, you walk out and you get punched in 682 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.480 the face for no reason. If that kind of crime 683 00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:50.360 does not go unaddressed, if that person who would do 684 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.559 something like this does not go through the criminal justice 685 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:54.760 system and is not a hell accountable to the fullest 686 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:56.440 extent of the law, it's just gonna invite more of 687 00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:58.079 this kind of thing to happen, and it's going to 688 00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:03.400 further further reduce the city of Cincinnati as a great 689 00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:09.039 destination for investment or perhaps to live in. It's a 690 00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:14.960 great ad campaign for the city, isn't it? And the 691 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.960 silence is definiting from ayor aftab Provoll's office, since there 692 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.159 has literally been no statement from the office that either 693 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.079 just Trek or I could find as of the start 694 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.119 of the morning show. We've got a lot of other 695 00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:26.920 elected officials and public officials and noted notables. We've got 696 00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:30.480 the chief of Police talking, We've got the Vice mayor talking, 697 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:32.000 We've got other elected officials. 698 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:32.480 You had vv. 699 00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:34.440 Ramaswami speaking on the subject. 700 00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:34.679 Vv. 701 00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:39.880 Ramaswami. You got Elon Musk speaking on the subject. It's 702 00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:44.360 made national news, folks, and a silence from the mayor's office. 703 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:46.880 Of all the offices, you would expect an elected official 704 00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:49.239 to speak from and speak to this event. You would 705 00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:55.119 think that he would be right out front. Who's first, Joe, Matt, 706 00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:56.760 Welcome to the Morning Show. Thanks for calling. 707 00:38:58.159 --> 00:38:58.440 Hello. 708 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.679 Yeah, I just had a quick comment about the the 709 00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:03.840 other caller that was talking about you know, if the 710 00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:05.840 if the gentleman had like a gun or something and 711 00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:06.880 trying to defend himself. 712 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:08.119 Yeah, the use of deadly force. 713 00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:13.679 Yeah, I would almost guarantee you Knnie Pillach would prosecute 714 00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:16.280 the person who did that. See, I can almost guarantee 715 00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:18.800 because she is a terrible prosecutor. And it's one of 716 00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:22.559 those things where every office and every vote matters. 717 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.920 I understand, but you see, if a public perception is 718 00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.519 wait a second, I don't care what political stripe you are, Matt, 719 00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:33.360 but if you are getting the living crap beaten out 720 00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:36.360 of you, and it is reasonable to expect your life 721 00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.679 may and or you are suffering from and experiencing grievous 722 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.960 bodily harm. You have the legal right to use self defense. 723 00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:48.159 Deadly force is okay and it's lawful, so I completely agree. 724 00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:50.719 I completely agree with that, But I still think Kanye 725 00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:52.519 Pillage would would prosecute the person. 726 00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:54.639 I don't really do yeah, but in terms of politics, 727 00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:56.159 I don't know that would necessarily do or any good. 728 00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:58.920 I think there will be public outrage expressed over the prosecution. 729 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.519 And you know the old adage, I'd rather be I'd 730 00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:06.000 rather put my hands in the hands of twelve people 731 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.079 that will be dead, you know what I mean, put 732 00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:10.840 my life in the hands of twelve people or die. 733 00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:15.679 I'm gonna go with the former. Can always count on 734 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:19.960 maybe a jury acquitting you because you were justified in 735 00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:23.320 your use of deadly force. That's what it comes down to, 736 00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.960 reasonable under the circumstances, and I think this is the 737 00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.519 use of deadly force under the circumstances I put it 738 00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:33.000 on the last hour is really troubling because there are 739 00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:36.920 so many people around. I mean, I think there's some 740 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.679 expectation that someone is gonna use deadly force. Has to 741 00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:41.960 account for the fact that, well, maybe I'll miss and 742 00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:46.440 I'll keep shoot an innocent bystander. The use of deadly 743 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:50.239 force may be reasonable and justified, but a concern human 744 00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:53.719 being might hesitate for a moment, and then, of course 745 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:57.480 instilled in the public perception is exactly the point you're making, 746 00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.079 which is, wait a second, if you had time to 747 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.760 process it under the circumstances, and this is I mean, 748 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:06.880 moments matter. Under these circumstances, you don't have a whole 749 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:09.440 lot of time to kick back and sort of contemplate, 750 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.000 you know, the ethics and morality, the legality. You're getting 751 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:19.719 the crap beat out of you. But then that little 752 00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:23.679 voice like you said, well, if I do use deadly force, 753 00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:28.920 I'm going to get prosecuted. And that's an image and 754 00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.800 a perception. I think that the left and anti gun folks, 755 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:35.320 that's what they want. They want people to be so 756 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:40.400 fearful that they will not even protect their lives when 757 00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.559 they have the ability to do it. Like I said, 758 00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:47.639 I'm going with a jury. Bobby, Welcome to the Morning Show. 759 00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:50.599 Happy Monday to you, Happy Monday. 760 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:54.039 My friend. Thanks for taking my call. And we're not. 761 00:41:54.079 --> 00:42:00.920 All peer bongers. Okay, I think you understand what I 762 00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:02.679 know exactly what you're talking about. 763 00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:08.000 It doesn't matter if it's Chicago or wherever else it is, 764 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.239 dog islands in the streets. People have to protect themselves 765 00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.559 and be vigilant of what goes on around them. 766 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.000 I got a friend in Iowa that's listening right now. 767 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.960 In Davenport, Iowa. He said they had a very similar incident. 768 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.400 Nobody reported on it, there was no video of it, 769 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.079 but in Davenport, Iowa, he said, you know, it's not 770 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:27.880 just your city, man, It's going all over the place. 771 00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.639 They had a red, White and Boom festival fireworks show, 772 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.760 and you know, things went awry. 773 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:37.880 I just try to give advice to people and tell 774 00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:38.440 them the truth. 775 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:39.320 Be vigilant. 776 00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.320 Yeah, he's like family and firearms. If you have those, 777 00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.199 you always keep your freedom. Yep, you better think about it, 778 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:50.159 because it doesn't matter where you go. There's evil everywhere. Yes, indeed, 779 00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:52.519 some of the most evil people in the world had 780 00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:53.320 a nice smile. 781 00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:56.320 Yes indeed. Well, and you know what, you could be 782 00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:58.239 walking in the woods and next thing you know, you're 783 00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:03.960 being attacked by a vicious grizzly bear or something. It's 784 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:05.840 nice at that point to have a forty five seventy 785 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:10.119 on you, or maybe a five hundred magnum any event. 786 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.280 Appreciate that. Hey, Angus, we got time for Angus, Joe 787 00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:15.599 real fat. Let's take your call. Angus, we're out a 788 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.000 time to go ahead? It's okay angers. 789 00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.840 Sorry, Hey Brian, did the drones respond to this? 790 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:29.239 I appreciate the little interjection of levity, Angus. I understand 791 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:32.039 where you're coming from. It's obviously a very tragic situation. 792 00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:35.079 But whenever you can chuckle at something, I think that's 793 00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:37.400 probably a good thing. I don't know what a drone 794 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.280 would have done. Can anybody answer that question? The police 795 00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:42.760 weren't even aware that this was going on? Which path 796 00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:45.480 was asked a larger question. Wait a second, you got 797 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.159 a music festival with ninety thousand people and they're pouring 798 00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:51.119 out of it. There's gonna be people milling in the street. 799 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:55.039 They're gonna be exiting bars post a concert, bars closed 800 00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:57.079 it too. People are pouring out in the streets. If 801 00:43:57.079 --> 00:43:59.119 you're police chief, where do you think you might want 802 00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.480 to allocate recent sources? He asked out loud, scratching his head, 803 00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:07.360 wondering why there weren't police standing right there. Six sixteen 804 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.760 fifty five kerr Se Detalk Station. Feel free to chime in. 805 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:12.519 All opinions are welcome five one, three, seven, four, nine 806 00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:16.320 fifty five hundred, eight hundred two three. 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Saturday, 834 00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:49.280 of course, many hours after the altercation, but she said 835 00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.480 the behavior show of the video nothing short of cruel 836 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.000 and absolutely unacceptable. Of course you're just tuning in. I'm 837 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:59.280 talking about the uh, the fight, the beat down individueen 838 00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.400 kicked and stomped on by folks after he had already 839 00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:05.079 been incapacitated laying in the street, followed by a woman 840 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:08.320 getting punched in the face Colecock knocked out. That was 841 00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:10.079 the I think one of the more horrific elements of 842 00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:12.519 the video. But you're entitled your own conclusions on that. 843 00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:16.400 She said, I'm in complete disgust waking up to the 844 00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.760 viral video. Many of you now seeing the behavior displayed 845 00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.800 nothing sort of cool and absolutely unacceptable. Our investigative team 846 00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:25.320 is working diligently to identify every individual involved in causing harm. 847 00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:28.880 She claimed it was not connected in any way to 848 00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.199 the music fest, and something else that was echoed by 849 00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:34.840 some of the other elected officials that actually came on record, 850 00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:38.079 absent have Purval, who hasn't said a word anybody's understanding 851 00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:41.199 at this moment. I mean, it was a connected in 852 00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:42.840 some way of the music fest, because that's what brought 853 00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:47.119 all the people downtown Cincinnati. But I don't know what 854 00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:50.920 the verbal altercation that she concluded led to this horrific 855 00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:54.880 beatdown was about. Maybe it was about one of the 856 00:46:54.960 --> 00:47:00.719 musical acts that performed. But here's the trouble. In comment, 857 00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.639 as reported by WCPOS, Molly Shramp, a spokesperson for the 858 00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:10.679 Cincinnati Police Department, told us before Fiji's statement that they 859 00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:22.760 were not aware of the incident until the videos were posted. Huh, 860 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.480 so there was literally no police presence at all in 861 00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:31.360 the general area, and of course if nobody bothers calling 862 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:32.920 nine to one one and apparently they only got one 863 00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:35.519 nine one one call among all the throng of people 864 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:39.880 that were involved or they're witnessing this, only one person bothered, 865 00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:42.320 and a lot of criticism of people standing around videoing 866 00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:44.920 something when they should have been rendering assistance to those Well, 867 00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:47.519 you know, it's it's easy to say that, but if 868 00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:49.320 you're in the middle of a melee like that and 869 00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:51.679 the idea of you rendering assistance may mean that you're 870 00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:53.719 the one in the middle of the street getting kicked 871 00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:59.400 and beaten down because you're so outnumbered. Referencing the woman 872 00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.039 who got punched in the face, who appeared to be 873 00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.480 a person who was looking into rendering aid or otherwise 874 00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.679 checking on the condition of the individual that had gotten 875 00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:14.000 the crap beat out of them. She gets punched in 876 00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:24.800 the face for no reason at all, left unconscious. Mark Jeffries, 877 00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:30.880 maybe he'll be right since the accounts with Mark Jeffries said 878 00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:35.239 incredibly disturbing and horrific, downright inhumane. He said he's spoken 879 00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.760 with other city officials and police to work on finding 880 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:42.400 individuals responsible and arrest them urgently. Quote. This behavior cannot 881 00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.559 stand and will not represent our city. Those responsible must 882 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:49.400 be held accountable and prosecuted the fullest extent of the law. Yeah, 883 00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.559 that's what we need to hear. Props to Mark Jeffries 884 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:55.679 for saying the important part out loud. Let's see what happens. 885 00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:59.199 Will there be followed through? How do you rehabilitate a 886 00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:02.480 city's repute is being soft on crime and we've got 887 00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:08.639 one of those and overcome the challenges that this type 888 00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:11.639 of incident represents for the city and its efforts to 889 00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:16.639 grow and expand and attract businesses and individuals to live 890 00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:19.000 in the City of Cincinnati. You know how you do that. 891 00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:22.360 You lock people up and prosecute them to the full 892 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.000 sixtent of the law. We are a law and order 893 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:27.039 city here in the City of Cincinnati. The old days 894 00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:31.000 are gone. We are now all about law enforcement. Don't 895 00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:34.000 do the crime, or you're going to do the time. 896 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:42.400 Isn't that a better message to project to the nation 897 00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:45.239 and even the world. You know, it's kind of funny 898 00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.119 what I was doing prep for the show yesterday. This 899 00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:57.199 was reported in the Hindu Times front page of Fox 900 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.440 News National website, among a whole bunch of others. Great 901 00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:02.519 optics for the city, isn't it. 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Go 929 00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:27.360 ahead and make an argument to the contrary. I don't 930 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:29.519 there's anybody in a human being alive that could justify 931 00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:31.360 that kind of treatment of another human being. I don't 932 00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:36.000 even care what the original fight was about. Moving on 933 00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:39.519 the other things did happen over the weekend. Fairfield of Hio. 934 00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.239 We got a person shot Sunday morning at a speedway 935 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:46.559 gas station on Dixie Highway or in Fairfield. Shooting started 936 00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:48.360 as a physical fight in the parking lot of the 937 00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:50.880 seventy three hundred Dixie Highway. Police said two men injured, 938 00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:55.760 only one shot shooting victim taking to Mercy Hospital airlifted 939 00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:01.320 UC Medical Center. As of the reporting from WC, condition 940 00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:04.519 currently unknown, and of course at this point there are 941 00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.119 no suspects. They also believe there's no threat to the community, 942 00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:08.440 which is good. 943 00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:09.880 Ah. 944 00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:12.719 Let us see here over to Deerfield Township man arrested 945 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.719 after an hour's long police stand off having a Deerfield Township, 946 00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.360 prompting emergency alerge to be sent to all Warren County 947 00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:20.400 residents and others from the surrounding counties. Court of the 948 00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:24.519 Warren County Sheriff Barely Barry Riley, speaking again with local news, 949 00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.960 WCPO said officers went to a residence on Spring Mill 950 00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.719 Way in the Landon area about noontime to execute an 951 00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:36.320 arrest warrant a thirty two year old Denzel Pouncy. Pouncey 952 00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:40.079 had active warrants on charges of strangulation an assault. After 953 00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:43.719 officers dispatched Friday night to u See, Westchester for report 954 00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:47.440 of an assault, Warren County Tactical Response Unit breached the 955 00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:50.559 front door of the residence with explosives before making entry 956 00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:53.840 and taking this guy in to custody. Riley said three 957 00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:57.159 others were also taken out of the residence, including Pouncey's fiance. 958 00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:00.719 No one injured, no shots fired during the breach, Riley said. 959 00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:05.880 After leaving the scene, wcpo's crew saw damaged doorway at 960 00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:10.440 the residents. Riley said Pouncy also currently on parole. Long 961 00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:15.239 criminal history including involuntary manslaughter, aggravated drug trafficking, weapons charges, 962 00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:21.360 and more. WOW. Crews from multiple law enfortunate enforcement agencies 963 00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:24.119 were involved, Deerfield Fire and Rescue, Mason Fire and Rescue, 964 00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:29.119 Monroe Police, and Deerfield Township Police and more. Warren County 965 00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.559 EMA said a press release the alert regarding the incident 966 00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:34.559 in the Landing area accidentally sent out to a much 967 00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.719 wider area due to what they call a technical malfunction. 968 00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:41.519 Riley specified they believe it was a computer glitch, not 969 00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:43.880 human error, saying the dispatcher who sent it out today 970 00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:46.519 is one of the most experienced, hardest working, best dispatches 971 00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:50.679 I know in the business. Not his fault. Not only 972 00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.119 sent to all Warren County residents, but also some people 973 00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:57.199 surrounding counties Hamilton, Butler, Clinton, Claremont, and Green County Geese 974 00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:02.039 even went to my own Sims Township. I didn't get 975 00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:07.760 an alert. Technical issue was with the integrated Public Alert 976 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:11.119 and Warning system. I pause, and they say it's currently 977 00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:14.159 being thoroughly investigated with local, state, and federal partners. At 978 00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:16.960 corner of the Warren County EMA original alert to residents 979 00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:19.760 sent out about twelve thirty pm, calling for everyone to 980 00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:25.519 shelter in place. That's a pretty wide swath of the community. 981 00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:29.159 Third alert, roughly one thirty PM told residents of safety 982 00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:33.159 alert was canceled. So maybe that glitch will get resolved. 983 00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:36.039 We can only hope anyhow, if you got some comments 984 00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:38.519 or thoughts on the melee in Downtownsons and I'd love 985 00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:40.599 to hear from you, love to have an explanation or 986 00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:42.559 excuse to how we fixed the problem. One costs to 987 00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:44.679 person called earlier. It suggest that, you know, it would 988 00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:47.079 be really important for the NAACP, given all the power 989 00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:49.679 and cloud that they enjoy and they do, to issue 990 00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.800 a statement maybe calling for calmer reactions, maybe calling for 991 00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:58.239 some you know, reflection on members of the community generally speaking, 992 00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:01.280 not members of any particular ethnic group. Everybody. Look, I mean, 993 00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:04.039 we need people from all levels. This is something Smithman's 994 00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:05.840 been on a tear and I'm sure he's gonna continue it. 995 00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:08.719 The silence about the police department and support for police 996 00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.679 and support for law enforcement has been deafening, sort of 997 00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:15.159 in a state of denial over the crime statistics that 998 00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:20.719 some statistics are down but many are up. You know, 999 00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:22.840 you're gonna believe you're lion eyes or you're gonna believe 1000 00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.360 what our public officials say. But in the absence of 1001 00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:27.599 a statement from public officials, you know you don't have 1002 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:35.400 this showing of uniformity, this showing of collective lockstep approval 1003 00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:38.599 of and support of the police department, and support of 1004 00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:46.440 law and order, and support of civility. Wish more elected 1005 00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:53.480 officials would speak to civility, getting along, living side by 1006 00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.280 side with people of all races and colors and creeds. 1007 00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:58.679 We can all enjoy the city of Cincinnati together. Look 1008 00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:04.000 what we've got. 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You get the podcast 1046 00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:00.480 if you can't stick around for the seven flock hour, 1047 00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:04.920 we're gonna be hearing from FOP President Ken Kober about 1048 00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:08.039 the beatdown over the weekend, the police responds to it, 1049 00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:10.960 and the community's response to Christopher Smith Aman at the 1050 00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:13.039 At seven to twenty. Every Monday, we hear from the 1051 00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:14.880 former vice mayor with the Smither event. He'll be on 1052 00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:16.960 today and yeah, I imagine he'll have a thing or 1053 00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:18.760 two to say about that Monday Money with Brian James 1054 00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:21.039 Ato five and the return of Rabbi Ari June to 1055 00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.480 talk about the Robling Bridge shutdown protest. That'll be at 1056 00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:26.320 eight thirty. He'll be in studio. Looking forward to seeing 1057 00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:28.840 your Rabbi. That again eight thirty, let's go to the phone, 1058 00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:30.800 see what Corey's got. Corey, thanks for calling this morning, 1059 00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:31.719 and happy Monday to you. 1060 00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:36.039 Happy Monday. There Brian, Hey, this a couple quick thoughts 1061 00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:38.960 from that. I call it a hate crime that happened 1062 00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:43.920 downtown because remember back a few years ago, the Knockout 1063 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:47.639 game and all this stuff seems to always be blacking 1064 00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:51.760 against white violence and if they own the unarmed people 1065 00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:57.039 to attack. Because one, Ohio is one of the only 1066 00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:00.559 states in the entire country who's no gun scigns, have 1067 00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:04.719 Corse law, which they know most people will be unarmed. 1068 00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.920 More than likely these people were either at the baseball 1069 00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:12.320 game or at that jazz best, which both of them 1070 00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:16.920 disarm you, so you're vulnerable while you're out in public. 1071 00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:19.599 Or or at the bars. I mean these I don't 1072 00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:21.559 think the concert was still going on at the time 1073 00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:23.239 this happened. I think it was reportedly happened at three 1074 00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:25.440 o'clock in the morning, So I think it's probably people 1075 00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:27.639 that were filing out of bars or otherwise enjoying the 1076 00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:29.119 Dora district they have there. 1077 00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:34.360 Yeah, absolutely, which crazy to why we want to mention 1078 00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:40.400 Ohio one of the states, Like I said, no gun signs. Course, 1079 00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:43.840 the law Kentucky you can carry in a bar and 1080 00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:49.760 you can drink while consuming alcohol, but you cannot be intoxicated. 1081 00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:52.480 So why is it in Ohio if you have one 1082 00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:57.119 ver well carry and that's a fellony, and in Kentucky 1083 00:59:57.159 --> 00:59:59.239 it's not. I think Ohio needs to change that law. 1084 00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.800 Then you do a with no gun signs, because it's 1085 01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:04.239 leaving people vulnerable to this kind of stuff. 1086 01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:08.599 Well, a private property owner who has control over his 1087 01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:11.559 or her private property, I don't think you would want 1088 01:00:11.599 --> 01:00:14.400 some legislative body telling you what you can or cannot 1089 01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:16.360 have in your own home. And that's the way they 1090 01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:19.400 view private property. So if you are of the mind 1091 01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:21.639 that you don't like firearms and think they represent a 1092 01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:25.079 danger to your private business, then I believe you do 1093 01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:27.280 have the right to tell someone they can't bring one in. 1094 01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:29.519 Now you're turning away business, and I think you're creating 1095 01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:33.639 a more opportunity for more violence. But I believe in 1096 01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:35.800 the property right, so I'll disagree with you on that. 1097 01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.719 But I think it's a rather interesting thing that Kentucky 1098 01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:41.360 allows people to consume alcohol and carry concealed I don't 1099 01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:44.159 find any problem with that as long as you're not intoxicated. 1100 01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.320 But and I don't know if it would solve the problem. Corey, 1101 01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:49.880 what's your reaction if you know that this would have 1102 01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:53.360 been a justifiable use of deadly force. If you were 1103 01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:56.039 that guy getting the crap beat out of him, you 1104 01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:58.800 would have a legitimate fear for your wife life. Who 1105 01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:05.400 would you shoot. 1106 01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.000 Anybody that that definitely stopped my head on the ground. 1107 01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.639 That is attempted murderer. So I was trying to stunk 1108 01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:12.559 your head into the assphole. I think anybody that was 1109 01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:14.800 participating in that absolutely deserve to. 1110 01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:18.039 Be shot, right, and that would be justifiable. 1111 01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:18.239 Mark. 1112 01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:20.239 But you know, if you're in that posi and I'm 1113 01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:21.840 just trying to be practical here, Corey, you and I 1114 01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:23.320 see pretty much eye to eye on the right to 1115 01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:26.280 keep him bare arms in the legitimate, reasonable, justifiable use 1116 01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:30.840 of them under certain circumstances. But you know, being experienced 1117 01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:34.920 firearms user and an owner of multiple firearms, if I 1118 01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:37.719 am that guy and I'm on the ground, I'm not 1119 01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:40.159 quite sure I would be in a position to capably 1120 01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:44.920 operate one. That guy was clearly disoriented, he could barely 1121 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.920 get up some people standing around. 1122 01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.199 You have a right to defend others as well, Ah. 1123 01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:54.519 Like the guy at Walmart, Like the guy at Walmart 1124 01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:57.639 going going after the guy that got all stabby on everyone. 1125 01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:01.519 That's how he's being celebrated as a hero. Right now, 1126 01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:04.320 more people in the crowd had firearms and they saw 1127 01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:07.280 someone whose life was in peril, they could have risen 1128 01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:09.360 to the challenge. And maybe that answers the question about 1129 01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:11.480 what you and I are supposed to do as a society. 1130 01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:15.360 If we encounter this, you're obviously outnumbered. There's a multitude 1131 01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:18.159 of people beating the crap out of some defenseless little 1132 01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:20.800 guy on this or guy on the street. So if 1133 01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:23.920 you have a firearm, maybe that's what equalizes the situation, 1134 01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:26.440 so you're less afraid to get involved and help a 1135 01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:27.599 poor man out. 1136 01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:32.440 Absolutely. One other things, speaking of that Walmart attack in Ohio, 1137 01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:35.360 that guy could be charged with menacing or aggravated menacing 1138 01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:38.639 or aggravated assault. As in Ohio, it is illegal to 1139 01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:42.039 brandish a firearm if you do not use it. One 1140 01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:45.119 time you can brandish a firearm is with the actual 1141 01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:49.480 act of shooting somebody exfinitely pulling it out and deterring 1142 01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:51.920 the threat as a crime in Ohio, and that takes 1143 01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:55.280 the bill Sykes under the standard ground wall. A few 1144 01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:58.559 years ago, each took that language out in the Federal's 1145 01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:02.800 committee of the bill to leave it a crime. So 1146 01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:08.000 thank you Bill Sykes for people being in harms way 1147 01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:08.679 in Ohio. 1148 01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:12.679 There you go. Appreciate the shot. Cory, thanks for the 1149 01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:15.760 call as well. Five one three seven, eight hundred and 1150 01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:17.679 eighty two to three talk found five fifty on AT 1151 01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:19.519 and T phones. Yeah, in so far as well or 1152 01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:22.880 not this is a hate crime, I don't know. So 1153 01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:25.280 that earlier caller suggested it might have been racially motivated 1154 01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:28.880 given the two victims, the woman who got just the 1155 01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:31.840 crap punched out of her and the guy that was 1156 01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:34.239 being kicked on the ground. Obviously the black folks were 1157 01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:36.159 beating the crap out of the white guy on the ground, 1158 01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:40.159 But was race a factor? That does not answer the question. 1159 01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:42.119 This is why I always say I'm gonna let cooler 1160 01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.800 heads prevail and find out and someone is looking into it. 1161 01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:48.280 Harmead Nolan, the Assistant Attorney General for the US Department 1162 01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:50.480 of Justice Civil Rights Division, had this to saynd it 1163 01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:54.199 our federal hate crimes law applied to all Americans, and 1164 01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:57.079 the division is monitoring how local authorities handled the incident, saying, 1165 01:03:57.079 --> 01:03:59.079 nobody in our great nation should be the victim of 1166 01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:03.199 such a crime, and where race is a motivation federal 1167 01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:07.239 law may apply. She's obviously taking like I am a 1168 01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:09.119 wait and see approach. I'm not going to be quick 1169 01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:11.199 to rush to judgment as to what motivated this. I 1170 01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:12.599 don't know what the two guys are in a verbal 1171 01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:17.960 altercation about that brought about this insane reaction from the crowd. 1172 01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:22.840 I don't like jumy conclusions. Some people get away with 1173 01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:28.559 joemy to conclusions immediately calling something racial or not, and 1174 01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:31.960 quite often they're found to be wrong in their immediate conclusion. 1175 01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:35.079 Six forty eight was SAYI, Jim hang On, brother, I 1176 01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:36.400 can't wait to talk to you, but I a'mount of 1177 01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:38.880 time got to mention. I want to mention Cross Country 1178 01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:40.679 Mortgage because you want to deal with Susee Low's the camp, 1179 01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:42.840 but it comes to things mortgage related. The best in 1180 01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:47.800 the business. I can say that unqualified. She's such a 1181 01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:50.519 nice lady, sweet customer service, more knowledge and experience, and 1182 01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:53.280 I think anyone thirty five plus years in the mortgage business. 1183 01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:56.199 She helped my daughter and her fiance get their financing. 1184 01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:58.079 It took them just like two days, and this is 1185 01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:00.320 after they got the run around from the bank. She 1186 01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:03.199 found something that worked out perfect for them. She's working 1187 01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:05.440 for you, and she gets to look at all the 1188 01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:07.239 products out there and we'll come up with the best 1189 01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:09.480 solution for you, great rates at low cost, never a 1190 01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:12.679 junk fee, never an application fee, and the best customer 1191 01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:14.920 service in the business. Tell her, Brian said, how would 1192 01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:16.079 you get in touch with her? I don't care what 1193 01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:17.960 state you're sitting in. She can help you being with 1194 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.880 Cross Country Mortgage, including my friends listening in Puerto Rico. 1195 01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:23.400 To reach her and she will get right back with you. 1196 01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:25.440 Just leave her message five one three three one three 1197 01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:28.079 fifty one seventy six five one three three one three 1198 01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:30.159 fifty one seventy six, or just shoot her an email. 1199 01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:32.239 You can even do it right now. So's that dot 1200 01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:35.079 Low's campspelled l O s E KA mp ss that 1201 01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:37.760 dot Low's camp at CCM dot. 1202 01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:40.480 Com fifty five KRC TIX fifty one. 1203 01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:42.639 Coming up at six fifty two fifty by KARCD talk station. 1204 01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:44.880 You know that video we've been talking about all morning 1205 01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:47.039 wasn't the only one that happened. I know that because 1206 01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:50.440 uh posting on Facebook my friend westside Jim, who's on 1207 01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:52.599 the phone right now, posting another one. Jim, Welcome back man. 1208 01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:53.719 It's always great to hear from you. 1209 01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:57.639 Hey, Brian, Hey, I posted about five or six of them. 1210 01:05:57.679 --> 01:05:59.559 I mean, they're starting to come out of the woodwork. 1211 01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:03.360 You know, about four or five weeks ago, there was 1212 01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:06.320 an article about these four gentlemen coming out of Rubies. 1213 01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:07.559 You remember that, Oh yeah. 1214 01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:11.840 Jump by fifteen or twenty utes. And this is going 1215 01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:16.119 to tell them the community, the business community actually comes 1216 01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:20.280 out and sits down in demands, not talks. I'm tired 1217 01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:22.320 of this talks, and I'm tired of hearing the same 1218 01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:27.800 old rhetoric and bs from our so called people who 1219 01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:32.039 run this city. And until they come out and demand, because. 1220 01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:32.960 That's who's going to hurt. 1221 01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:35.639 I mean, these four guys got jumped, and you can't 1222 01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:39.679 tell me that you and and that is just being facetious, 1223 01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:42.119 but you and your mom want to go to Rubies. 1224 01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:44.360 Well let's go to the suburbs. 1225 01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:45.159 So there is a. 1226 01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:46.039 Positive behind this. 1227 01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:48.239 The suburbs are getting business out of it, where the 1228 01:06:48.280 --> 01:06:52.480 downtown's are hurt. But you know, racial, but I'm sorry, 1229 01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:58.039 go ahead, no, no, there's a definite racial behind this 1230 01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:01.679 because they it's going to get to the point where 1231 01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:05.559 it's going to be black only music festival. Now we 1232 01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:06.239 don't want that. 1233 01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:07.280 We don't want that. 1234 01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:10.480 Now, if these people want to the music festival, and 1235 01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:13.320 there are white people that go to the music festival 1236 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:14.440 and try to enjoy their. 1237 01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:16.400 Night out, oh my wife's gone many times. 1238 01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:19.800 But for Fiji to come out and say that this 1239 01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:22.639 had nothing to do with the music festival, well, her 1240 01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:24.679 head is so far in the sand, because if you 1241 01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:27.800 look away, these people were dressed. They don't go down 1242 01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:30.400 there at three o'clock in the morning on a Friday 1243 01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:35.480 night and normally walk around in downtown Cincinnati. They were 1244 01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:37.840 coming from the music festival, going to one of the 1245 01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:41.159 doras or a bar. So to me it is attributed 1246 01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:42.400 to the music festival. 1247 01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:44.639 Well, yeah, any event where you get a large group 1248 01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:48.760 of people congregating together represents a heightened element for security 1249 01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:51.840 only because so many people who are usually strangers to 1250 01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:54.400 each other congregate together, have an opportunity, as I mentioned 1251 01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:56.760 earlier in the program, to bump into each other, spill 1252 01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:00.360 a beer on someone, getting a verbal altercation. Concentrated people 1253 01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:03.320 equals a higher likelihood of that happening. So yeah, in 1254 01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:05.840 some way, shape or form, it's related to the music festival. 1255 01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:08.000 But I understand the festival is over. Don't they shut 1256 01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:11.039 those things down at eleven pm? So people work clearly 1257 01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:13.280 at the Dora or at the bars, right. The reason 1258 01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:15.400 they were there was because the news had brought them down. 1259 01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:19.760 Yeah, and also when they come out and Thiji says, well, 1260 01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:22.000 you know she was she was down there playing the 1261 01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:25.319 John Travolta, dancing up in a private box. If I 1262 01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.840 was a police chief, I would have been downtown and 1263 01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:31.760 in a car a movie from territory territory and checking 1264 01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:34.600 in on my people. From what I understand, there was 1265 01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:36.600 hardly any police presence downtown. 1266 01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:39.319 And she said she didn't even find out about it 1267 01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:43.479 until the next day when the viral video started circulating. Yeah, correct, the. 1268 01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:45.119 Chief, And that's just disgusting. 1269 01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:49.039 That's terrible for our police chief to do something like that. 1270 01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:53.000 It shows that she's not informed, she's way inconfident about 1271 01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:55.680 the whole matter, and she should have been down there 1272 01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:58.239 with her so called troops and maybe she could have 1273 01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.880 been directing a jerne. I know that tongue in cheek, 1274 01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:05.239 but it's just terrible the way the city is going, 1275 01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:07.760 and it's not going to get any better with the 1276 01:09:07.800 --> 01:09:10.520 regime that we have. And I'm talking about the police 1277 01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:14.479 departments upper management. I'm not talking about the troops. The 1278 01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:17.159 troops do their job when they're given the opportunity to 1279 01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:20.279 do their job, and that's the problem. They're not given 1280 01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:21.239 that opportunity. 1281 01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:23.600 If they'd have had a dozen. 1282 01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:26.920 Cops walking around downtown or driving or doing whatever they 1283 01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:29.840 had to do, this would never have happened, or it 1284 01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:33.720 would have been very very short and we wouldn't be 1285 01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.920 seeing this on national and international news. 1286 01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:39.119 Right and presumably arrests would have made the evening of 1287 01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:41.439 the attack or the morning of the attack, as opposed 1288 01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:43.039 to them having to go around and try to search 1289 01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:46.479 with search for people using downtown cameras as well as 1290 01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:49.520 the videos that people standing around watching it were taking, 1291 01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:51.600 which they're currently doing so. 1292 01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:55.439 And lastly, Brian for to give them the external wall 1293 01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:56.319 to prosecute them. 1294 01:09:56.439 --> 01:09:57.479 We know what's going to happen. 1295 01:09:57.800 --> 01:09:59.920 It's going to be probation, it's going to be maybe 1296 01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:02.439 ten days in jail or something like that. 1297 01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:03.840 This guy couldn't die. 1298 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:06.479 That woman could have died if she couldn't bring you. 1299 01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:08.119 Know, and. 1300 01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:13.319 It may very well have one. Her current condition is 1301 01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:16.760 currently unknown. Well, you know, if history, if history is 1302 01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:20.039 a guide your presumption about what is going to happen, 1303 01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:24.359 will be proven true. But doesn't this represent a great 1304 01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:27.479 opportunity to go the opposite direction and demonstrate to the 1305 01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:30.319 entire country that Cincinnati is now a town of law 1306 01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:33.840 and order and we have the days of treating people 1307 01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:37.279 with kid gloves who commit these violent crimes is over. 1308 01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:39.319 I think it's time we can turn a page. 1309 01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:43.640 But they need six months in jail. Yeah, they don't. 1310 01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:48.399 Don't need an attempted motortren for picking up trash on 1311 01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:50.359 the side of the road. They need six months in 1312 01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:52.680 a justice center to see what it's really like when 1313 01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:53.960 they cause problems like this. 1314 01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:56.279 That's what the justice system is supposed to be a 1315 01:10:56.359 --> 01:10:59.439 deterrence for future people who might consider doing something as 1316 01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:02.159 heinous as we witness from over the weekend. Always great 1317 01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:04.520 to hear from you, Jim, Have a great day, my friend. 1318 01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:07.119 Six fifty seven, we're gonna hear from the man who 1319 01:11:07.199 --> 01:11:10.680 is responsible for the troops, the FOP president, Ken Kober 1320 01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:12.199 is going to join the program right after the news, 1321 01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:16.960 followed by Christopher Smithman Today's top stories at the top 1322 01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:17.520 of the hour. 1323 01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:20.079 You just got to know what's happening in your world. 1324 01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:36.960 Fifty five KRC, The talkstations. 1325 01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:40.920 It's seven five here fifty five k r C the 1326 01:11:41.079 --> 01:11:43.079 talk station. Try to have a happy Monday. And to 1327 01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:45.720 the subject matter we've been focusing on this morning, rather 1328 01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:48.479 disgusting and horrific. And to talk about that subject matter, 1329 01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:51.840 of course, the fight over the weekend, the severe beatdown 1330 01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.760 of a man as well as the cole cocking, just 1331 01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:58.119 punching of what a seemingly innocent bystander trying to help 1332 01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:01.279 out render assistance knocked the ground. To speak to that matter, 1333 01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:04.239 the FOP president Ken Kober returns to the morning show. 1334 01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:07.000 Chief or President of the Sin Saint's Fraternal or Police. 1335 01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:08.520 It's great to have you back on, Ken. I wish 1336 01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:11.800 it was under better circumstances, but I appreciate your willingness 1337 01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:13.319 to speak with my listeners of me about this. 1338 01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:16.279 Sure, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me Now. 1339 01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:19.920 The one puzzling thing THREESA Tiji, the chief of police 1340 01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:22.760 said something to the effect that she wasn't even aware 1341 01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:25.560 that this had happened until she saw the viral video 1342 01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:28.960 the following day or that day. Later in the day, 1343 01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:33.039 about six pm, she issued a statement. This was three 1344 01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:35.279 o'clock in the morning. I guess post concert there are 1345 01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:39.720 about ninety thousand people downtown for the concert. Presumably folks 1346 01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:42.159 went to the bars and the Dora district there afterwards, 1347 01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:44.680 and we're still milling around downtown. That seems to be 1348 01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:47.920 an area where you might expect the chief or whoever's 1349 01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:52.319 responsible for allocating resources to have police presence. There doesn't 1350 01:12:52.319 --> 01:12:55.239 appear to be any police involved in the era, even 1351 01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:59.079 in the area. Can you speak to that, Ken, Well. 1352 01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:01.000 You know, you had a lot going on downtown. Go, 1353 01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:03.399 of course, we're spread thin. There's only so many of 1354 01:13:03.479 --> 01:13:06.199 us to go around. You know, we get calls for 1355 01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:07.439 service and we end up. 1356 01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:08.079 Responding to them. 1357 01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:09.880 I mean, that's uh, not the only way you can 1358 01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:11.479 put It was three in the morning, so all the 1359 01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:14.319 events have wrapped up from from music fest, and then 1360 01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:17.199 it was just another another night of the bar downtown. 1361 01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:23.600 Unfortunately, well, well I guess did It was reported in 1362 01:13:23.680 --> 01:13:25.720 multiple news outlets there was only one nine to one 1363 01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:27.680 one call. Is that accurate? 1364 01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:30.920 I believe there were two or three. 1365 01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:32.760 But yes, I mean you would think something like this 1366 01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:35.279 that many people there, But yeah, there, I mean, so 1367 01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:36.920 few people call nine one one, and you know, I 1368 01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:38.159 talked about it over the weekend. 1369 01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:39.920 It's it's disgusting. 1370 01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:41.920 That you had people that would rather just watch in 1371 01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:44.560 videotape rather than you know, if you don't want to 1372 01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:47.279 get involved in completely understand, call the police, you know, 1373 01:13:47.279 --> 01:13:49.600 because we can't be everywhere and unless we know something's 1374 01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:50.239 going on. 1375 01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:52.000 You know, you can't get there. 1376 01:13:52.680 --> 01:13:54.760 But the fact that people just stood around and then didn't, 1377 01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:57.439 I mean, there were a couple of people that finally tried, 1378 01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:00.760 you know, to diffuse the situation after or the a 1379 01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:02.680 guy in the grounds getting kicked in the head thirty 1380 01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:03.479 forty times, and. 1381 01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:05.039 Then I guess they decided that was enough. 1382 01:14:05.079 --> 01:14:05.199 Then. 1383 01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:09.319 I mean, it's just an absolute mob mentality and it's nonsense. 1384 01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:12.319 This kind of thing shouldn't be happening in our society. 1385 01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:12.880 No question about it. 1386 01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:13.039 Now. 1387 01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:15.560 I understand you're working to identify ever, but he's involved 1388 01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:18.079 quite a few videos floating around. But I also understand 1389 01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:20.960 that city cameras are in or in the area. Are 1390 01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:23.399 there cameras mounted close by to where this unfolded. 1391 01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:27.680 There are cameras there, you know, whether it captured it. 1392 01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:31.600 Some of these cameras are on like an oscillating system. 1393 01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:34.479 So that's all be all part of the investigation. And 1394 01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:37.439 these investigators have been working around the clock, you know, 1395 01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:39.720 to not only identify them, but then to find. 1396 01:14:39.479 --> 01:14:41.119 Out why did this happen. 1397 01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:44.079 You know, there's a lot of speculation as to you know, 1398 01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:46.399 who started it, who didn't start it. But at the 1399 01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:49.319 end of the day, what could have started out as 1400 01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:52.720 a mutual fight that ends when you're on the ground 1401 01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:57.000 and you're getting stomped, Yeah, fifteen twenty people, when you're defenseless, 1402 01:14:57.000 --> 01:14:58.159 that that's not a mutual fight. 1403 01:14:58.239 --> 01:14:59.800 That is just a savage. 1404 01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:03.119 Attack, without question, And I honestly, and when you put 1405 01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:05.239 it in that context, it doesn't matter what started the 1406 01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:07.560 who started the fight. It could have been a guy 1407 01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:09.880 that got the ultimate beat down and was almost murdered 1408 01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:12.720 that night, But does it really matter if he's the 1409 01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:15.680 one that started the whole altercation between one other person, 1410 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:20.760 It shouldn't at a wit so there was reported Local 1411 01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:24.359 twelve reported Christianhauser has headlined police union leaders she was 1412 01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:27.920 talking to you, I guess says several suspects identified in 1413 01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:31.600 brutal downtown since I attack. Have the police actually identified 1414 01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:34.319 some of the suspects because there's no specific reporting in 1415 01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:36.800 the bulk of the article that says just that. 1416 01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:40.399 Oh, No, they've identified several people already. 1417 01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:43.359 Good been getting tips. You know that they can use 1418 01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:44.720 video cameras. 1419 01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:47.119 That's great, you know the people that want to instead 1420 01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:48.399 of calling the police, I want to sit there and 1421 01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:50.359 videotape this stuff and then put it on the internet. 1422 01:15:50.520 --> 01:15:52.720 It's fantastic because at. 1423 01:15:52.680 --> 01:15:54.520 Least they were doing something, because now it makes it 1424 01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:57.520 a lot easier when the police have several different angles 1425 01:15:57.760 --> 01:16:00.159 to be able to identify some of these perpetrators. Yes, 1426 01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:03.039 there have been people identified. They're still looking to identify 1427 01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:05.439 more people. So why we've asked, you know, people either 1428 01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:08.960 call crime stoppers or call the Central Business Section three 1429 01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:12.359 five two five four four five as the investigator's line 1430 01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:14.399 number to be able to get the rest of these 1431 01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:15.319 people identified. 1432 01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:17.119 So hopefully we'll get them all criminally charged. 1433 01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:19.479 Yeah, it's easy to lament the idea that people just 1434 01:16:19.479 --> 01:16:23.159 stand around a video camera things. I personally don't understand that. 1435 01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:25.880 It doesn't matter my position relative that the last thing 1436 01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:27.920 I ever think of is pulling my phone out to 1437 01:16:27.960 --> 01:16:30.560 even take a picture at a family event. But this 1438 01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:33.359 is very helpful for law enforcement. So even if you're 1439 01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:35.079 not willing to make a phone call to the police 1440 01:16:35.079 --> 01:16:37.119 and say Hey, that was my brother in law that 1441 01:16:37.199 --> 01:16:39.720 punched that woman in the face. But at least they 1442 01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:42.000 took a video of it, so it helped you identify them. 1443 01:16:42.039 --> 01:16:45.640 But that the component that really bothers me so much. 1444 01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:47.600 We live in a world where we're willing to alienate 1445 01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:50.680 family members over politics and not answer the phone or 1446 01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:54.399 call them up anymore and end ties with them. If 1447 01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:56.720 you're hanging out with or otherwise friends or relatives to 1448 01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:59.880 someone who would do something as horrific as just walk 1449 01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:03.840 up and punch a woman right in the face or 1450 01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:07.439 otherwise kick a man while he's obviously incapacitated him down, 1451 01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:09.159 that's not somebody I'd want to hang out with. And 1452 01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:10.840 that's someone I'd be more than happy to drop a 1453 01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:13.439 dime on, oh, without a doubt. 1454 01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:16.279 And you know, and you talk about this time after 1455 01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:20.199 time after time with juvenile violence, adult violence, but what 1456 01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:23.720 I saw on social media this weekend, there were there 1457 01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:26.159 were a group of people that were actually trying to 1458 01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:30.760 defend this guy being savagely beaten and then this woman 1459 01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:33.239 getting knocked out. People are trying to defend it, saying, oh, 1460 01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:34.920 this is okay and this is why, and it's like 1461 01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:38.079 and then kids see this and they're seeing grown adults 1462 01:17:38.119 --> 01:17:41.600 trying to justify these savage attacks, and that's exactly why 1463 01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:43.079 we are where we are as a society. 1464 01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:45.359 It's it's quite honestly, it's really disgusting. 1465 01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:48.399 It is thoroughly disgusting. And while I am happy that 1466 01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:51.399 some of the community leaders came out and spoke to this, 1467 01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:53.880 we had, you know, some council people at Mark Jefferies 1468 01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:55.640 I think was outspoken on and he said they need 1469 01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:57.399 to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. 1470 01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:02.079 As this morning and Joe and I both did separate 1471 01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:05.439 internet searches. Not a word from the mayor. What's your 1472 01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:09.840 reaction to that? Ken? The silence is deafening, well exactly. 1473 01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:11.640 I mean, you have the Vice mayor that's come out, 1474 01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:15.000 council members, chief has talked about this, and absolutely nothing 1475 01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:15.520 from the mayor. 1476 01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:16.600 I don't get it. 1477 01:18:18.279 --> 01:18:24.399 I don't either, So solutions, I mean a lot of 1478 01:18:24.439 --> 01:18:26.239 people calling in making fun of the whole idea of 1479 01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:28.359 where were the drones? Where were the drones? Sort of 1480 01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:30.399 tongue in cheek like what could a drone do? Anyway? 1481 01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:33.319 But in terms of what you would hope to be 1482 01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:37.039 a reaction to this, I mean, I think it represents 1483 01:18:37.039 --> 01:18:39.680 an ultimate opportunity for us as a city to turn 1484 01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:43.399 the page on lacks law enforcement and project ourselves to 1485 01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:46.760 the nation because this made national headlines. Man, and actually 1486 01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:49.840 it was reported globally a couple of global newspapers it 1487 01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:52.439 included this in it as well. But for us to 1488 01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:56.000 finally step up collectively from the mayor through council, the 1489 01:18:56.039 --> 01:18:59.399 prosecutor's office, and maybe get these judges to start paying attention, 1490 01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:02.239 we need to be a law and order city in 1491 01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:05.600 order to counterbalance this, this really negative perception of the 1492 01:19:05.640 --> 01:19:07.920 city of Cincinnati being a place filled with violence. 1493 01:19:09.239 --> 01:19:11.399 Yeah, I mean, the only way that these things are 1494 01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:14.680 going to stop is if the people are actually held 1495 01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:17.920 accountable and they put them all in prison. That then 1496 01:19:18.039 --> 01:19:19.960 that will send a message to the public that if 1497 01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:22.279 you come down here and you act like this, there 1498 01:19:22.279 --> 01:19:23.840 are going to be consequences. They are going to be 1499 01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:26.720 real consequences, and you're going to go to prison. That 1500 01:19:26.840 --> 01:19:29.319 and only then is when we will actually maybe see 1501 01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:31.800 some of this stuff stop. But until then, I mean, 1502 01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:33.880 they believe right now there's no consequences. 1503 01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:35.880 That's why they do these things. And they said they. 1504 01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:38.479 Know they're on camera they know it's likely that they're 1505 01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:40.920 going to get identified. But if they're not held accountable, 1506 01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:43.359 this will continue. I'd love to see a headline six 1507 01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:45.960 months or a year from now, four people sent to 1508 01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:47.479 prison for this brutal attack. 1509 01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:50.199 Yes, that is what will send a message to the public. 1510 01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:53.239 Well, and quite a few conversations here in the Morning 1511 01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:56.600 show this morning about use of deadly force. You know, 1512 01:19:56.680 --> 01:19:59.760 if you're in that guy situation, you obviously are in 1513 01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:03.560 fear for your life. You're obviously experiencing grievous bodily harm. 1514 01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:05.680 Many people suggest that, well, if he had a firearm, 1515 01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:07.600 he might have been to defend himself. You're in a 1516 01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:10.399 very busy public area. Now, that does not negate the 1517 01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:13.319 ability to use deadly force, but it creates an opportunity 1518 01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:16.239 for maybe an innocent bystander to get harmed in some way. 1519 01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:20.439 But your take on the justification for use of deadly 1520 01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:23.880 force had that guy been armed, Yeah. 1521 01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:26.079 I mean it absolutely would have been justified. 1522 01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:28.680 You know, you're being surrounded by ten to fifteen people 1523 01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:30.560 kicking your head, stomping you. 1524 01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:33.239 You kick somebody in the head, you're stomping on their head. 1525 01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:38.000 You are clearly trying to cause them serious physical harm. 1526 01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:41.760 You have the right to defend yourself. You know, maybe 1527 01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:43.560 that's what needs to happen. Maybe that's for people to 1528 01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:46.000 realize that you can't do this again. 1529 01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:48.640 That's exactly where I hope you were going to conclude 1530 01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:53.600 not only severe punishment from the authorities and prosecution to 1531 01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:56.000 the fullest extent of the law as an illustration of 1532 01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:58.279 what's going to happen to you, but maybe a member 1533 01:20:58.279 --> 01:21:00.720 of the public defending themselves would edley for some of 1534 01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:03.600 those circumstances, reminding the rest of the population that, yeah, 1535 01:21:03.600 --> 01:21:05.520 there are a whole bunch of armed people out there 1536 01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:09.159 and this might be a really, really bad idea. 1537 01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:12.640 Yeah, I mean that that's the only that's other than 1538 01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:14.760 you know, the headlines of these people going to prison. 1539 01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:17.439 That's the only other way that people are going to 1540 01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:18.880 start thinking twice before they. 1541 01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:21.960 Act this way. FOP President cam Cover, God bless you, sir, 1542 01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:23.600 keep up the great work. And you know the fifty 1543 01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:26.439 five KRS morning show listeners have the Cincinnta Police departments 1544 01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:29.319 back and we'll be happy to drop a dime if 1545 01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:31.319 we have information that might lead to an arrest. Three 1546 01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:34.960 five two thirty forty Crime Stoppers in number. Take care Ken, 1547 01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:36.079 stay well, my friend. 1548 01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:38.560 All right, thanks for Hammy, Bran's always a pleasure. 1549 01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:40.239 Take care seven to fifteen right now, if you have 1550 01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:42.840 Care City Talks Station, Gee, I wonder what Christopher Smitheman 1551 01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:47.399 is going to talk about in his Smither event seven 1552 01:21:47.479 --> 01:21:49.920 twenty If you have care CEV Talk station, A very 1553 01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:52.680 happy Monday to you made always extra special happy because 1554 01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:53.960 this is the point of the week we get to 1555 01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:55.880 talk to the former Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati, 1556 01:21:55.960 --> 01:21:59.960 Christopher Smitheman, and let him unload and vent his planning 1557 01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:00.840 the Smither Vent. 1558 01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:01.039 Do you. 1559 01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:03.680 I wonder what you're going to talk about today. Welcome back, 1560 01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:06.479 Christopher Smitherman. It's great to have you on as always. 1561 01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:12.159 Brian Thomas, I've been listening to your show since five am, 1562 01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:15.279 and I tell you we've been You and I have 1563 01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:19.479 been talking about this all summer. Yeah, you and I 1564 01:22:19.560 --> 01:22:23.439 are not surprised because we've been talking about this crime 1565 01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:27.079 wave that is happening and things were just going to 1566 01:22:27.199 --> 01:22:31.279 get worse. I'm the outgoing vice mayor of the City 1567 01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:35.800 of Cincinnati. I've never seen anything like this. And when 1568 01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:38.520 I'll share with first with the public, you're listening audience. 1569 01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:42.039 What should the mayor be doing? What would be normal? 1570 01:22:42.479 --> 01:22:44.199 A normal would be a press conference. 1571 01:22:44.319 --> 01:22:45.800 Yeah, a normal. 1572 01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:48.760 Would be a statement. A normal would be a press 1573 01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:55.079 conference with law enforcement surrounding you, including the ATF, the FBI, 1574 01:22:55.560 --> 01:23:00.720 the Justice Department, with the videos, with some type of 1575 01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:04.800 money behind it, saying I want you to identify. 1576 01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:05.319 Who these people are. 1577 01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:06.640 The reward video. 1578 01:23:06.479 --> 01:23:10.920 Running you're circling, here's the reward for everybody. Here's fifty thousand, 1579 01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:13.640 here's fifty thousand, here's But what they really are out 1580 01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:15.640 there worried about, which is so. 1581 01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:17.800 Sick is the money. 1582 01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:22.399 They're so interested in the music festival and the money. 1583 01:23:22.520 --> 01:23:23.439 So let me just say that. 1584 01:23:23.720 --> 01:23:24.159 Listen to that. 1585 01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:29.119 If they don't know who did it, how do they know. 1586 01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:30.880 It's not connected to the music festival. 1587 01:23:31.720 --> 01:23:34.760 If they haven't arrested anybody, if they haven't gone down 1588 01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:39.279 and done any interviews, how can they publicly say that 1589 01:23:39.479 --> 01:23:43.119 those who are involved in the incident, the beating, the attack, 1590 01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:47.039 the attempted murder were not connected to the music festival. 1591 01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:50.800 They don't know, so they're jumping out saying, hey man, 1592 01:23:50.840 --> 01:23:53.600 this has nothing to do with the music festival. However, 1593 01:23:54.119 --> 01:23:58.239 I'm just I think the attack was horrible. Look where 1594 01:23:58.439 --> 01:23:59.279 the hell. 1595 01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:02.159 Is the of the city of Cincinnati. Yeah, that's act 1596 01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:04.239 what we have to ask ourselves right now. 1597 01:24:04.159 --> 01:24:06.840 As of this morning, we can find nothing by way 1598 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:08.800 of reporting a statement from mayor. I have to have 1599 01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:12.039 pur ball, zero, zip, nada. Hell, we have heard from 1600 01:24:12.159 --> 01:24:13.960 at least some of the council members. We heard from 1601 01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:17.279 the Vice mayor. We've heard from Bernie Moreno, We've heard 1602 01:24:17.279 --> 01:24:22.680 from the Bank Ramaswami, We've heard from Elon Musk has 1603 01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:25.720 even commented on this. You got people coming to the 1604 01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:29.920 woodwork on a national level, and yet nothing from the mayor. 1605 01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:31.760 Nothing. 1606 01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:35.079 And the crazy thing about it, Bryan Thomas, is these 1607 01:24:35.119 --> 01:24:38.039 are the kinds of moments when you're an elected official, 1608 01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:41.960 that define you, like we're in that moment. The other 1609 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:45.520 thing I want to stress is this wasn't the only attack. 1610 01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:49.920 No other videos are surfacing, and there will be most 1611 01:24:50.039 --> 01:24:53.880 likely more videos that are surfacing. I saw a video, 1612 01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:57.119 and this is maybe what West West Side Jim and 1613 01:24:57.159 --> 01:25:00.199 you were talking about, of a white male who was 1614 01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:01.479 just punched in the face. 1615 01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:03.279 He was knocked out. 1616 01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:06.359 He was then drugged to the middle of the street 1617 01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:10.520 where in front of a car while people are videotaping 1618 01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:15.600 him and laughing and mocking him and kicking him like 1619 01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:17.840 he was a piece of meat or an animal. 1620 01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:20.159 Yeah, this happened on video. 1621 01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:22.319 It had It didn't look like it was connected at 1622 01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:25.600 all to the incident that we're talking about. There are 1623 01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:31.479 other incidents that occurred in downtown Cincinnati. There were multiple attacks. 1624 01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:38.359 There were multiple attacks against white citizens. This is a hate. 1625 01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:41.840 Crime, yeah, you know that. On that on that specific 1626 01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:45.279 when Christopher, you can almost easily come to that conclusion. 1627 01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:47.119 And I'm not one to immediately say, hey, it's a 1628 01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:50.920 hate crime or it's racially motivated. But the video camera 1629 01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:56.000 was already recording. There was nothing going on that would justify, 1630 01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:58.319 at least in my mind, to have a video camera 1631 01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:01.199 running unless you knew that that guy was going to 1632 01:26:01.279 --> 01:26:04.479 do a knockout game incident. So you're filling up the 1633 01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:06.720 plain old white guy mining his own business, and then 1634 01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:08.439 all of a sudden, this other guy comes up and 1635 01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:11.479 just plot bam right in the face, like you said, 1636 01:26:11.479 --> 01:26:13.960 and then drugman in the street, all recorded on video. 1637 01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:16.560 How is it that the person recording it new to 1638 01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:18.960 have the video camera running on that guy at that 1639 01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.399 particular moment in time it was a setup. 1640 01:26:22.640 --> 01:26:26.600 It's absolutely a setup. And you heard someone actually say 1641 01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:30.720 something along this This isn't the exact quote, but don't 1642 01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:33.439 walk outside at night. You shouldn't be here at night. 1643 01:26:33.479 --> 01:26:37.279 You shouldn't be here, meaning the person is verbally telling 1644 01:26:37.359 --> 01:26:39.960 him this is not your city. 1645 01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:40.760 This is the. 1646 01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:45.680 Craziness of defund the police, reimagine the police. It's a 1647 01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:49.239 culture of city hall Brian Thomas that we've been talking about. 1648 01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:54.560 This mayor has fully embraced that mentality. So the police 1649 01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:58.840 department they don't support him because they're worried that if 1650 01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:02.840 they go out and engain guess what, they're gonna be prosecuted, 1651 01:27:03.039 --> 01:27:06.600 They're gonna lose everything, They're gonna be drug on CNN, 1652 01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:11.279 even though CNN doesn't show this, if an officer had responded, 1653 01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:14.159 or if one of those citizens who was being beat 1654 01:27:14.239 --> 01:27:17.439 up had a weapon and took a life. Now, all 1655 01:27:17.439 --> 01:27:19.399 of a sudden, we are on CNN. 1656 01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:20.079 The last thing. 1657 01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:21.439 Before we go to break is I know we've got 1658 01:27:21.479 --> 01:27:22.279 to go, but look. 1659 01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:23.800 Let's reverse this. 1660 01:27:24.840 --> 01:27:28.840 Let's say that there was a middle age African American 1661 01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:34.239 citizen couple walking down the street. They were surrounded by 1662 01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:37.680 white people. They were mocking them. There was some kind 1663 01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:40.920 of discussion and all of a sudden a fight breaks 1664 01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:44.279 out and a mob sits. A white mob beats up 1665 01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:47.720 a middle age white couple in the middle of the street. 1666 01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:49.920 They drag them out, they kick them in the head, 1667 01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:52.600 and then they punched the woman in the faith and 1668 01:27:52.760 --> 01:27:55.560 knock her out cold where she looks like she did. 1669 01:27:55.800 --> 01:27:59.239 It was a tempted murder. Tell me that city Hall 1670 01:27:59.720 --> 01:28:03.800 this the rest of the country, Al Sharpen, you name them, 1671 01:28:03.880 --> 01:28:08.600 the NAACP, the Urban League would not be in downtown 1672 01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:11.199 Cincinnati demanding justice. 1673 01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:12.920 Seventh thirty You coming to with a seventh thirty one 1674 01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:15.840 to fifty by KRCV talk station of amadcent Monday. Brian 1675 01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:17.600 Timas here with Christopher Smith in the middle of the 1676 01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:19.840 Smith event. I just got a comment from one of 1677 01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:21.920 my listeners, Christopher real quick. I don't want to interrupt 1678 01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:24.680 what your train of thought is, but he suggested that 1679 01:28:24.680 --> 01:28:27.640 maybe aftab Perwall is too concerned about the black vote 1680 01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:31.600 coming up this November than to stand up with the CBS, 1681 01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:34.439 since I Police Department, FBI, anybody else who might be 1682 01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:36.880 involved with this from a law enforcement standpoint. But my 1683 01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:41.720 reaction is, since you are a member of the black community, Christopher, 1684 01:28:41.960 --> 01:28:44.920 what's your perception about how this looks or how this 1685 01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:46.880 makes the black community look. If I was a member 1686 01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:48.920 of the black community, I'd be pissed off about this. 1687 01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:51.319 I would be embarrassed. I'd say, you're bringing me down, 1688 01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:53.439 You're making me look bad, You're making me look to 1689 01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:56.680 be as part of this of the problem. This isn't 1690 01:28:56.680 --> 01:28:58.239 who we are as a people. 1691 01:28:58.359 --> 01:29:03.239 Christopher, Well, unfortunately we live in this world where identity 1692 01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:07.880 politics are like the menu. So let me first just 1693 01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:12.199 say ninety nine point nine to nine percent of African 1694 01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:14.119 Americans to get up every day and go to work 1695 01:29:14.119 --> 01:29:17.520 for law abiding citizens and are not connected to this craziness. 1696 01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:22.000 They believe that it's absolutely nuts. They're incredibly embarrassed by it, 1697 01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:24.359 absolutely period. 1698 01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:25.199 All Right. 1699 01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:28.239 If this were a white people, I would say I 1700 01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:31.000 would think that they would also be saying they're very 1701 01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:34.039 embarrassed by this kind of behavior. So the bottom line 1702 01:29:34.159 --> 01:29:37.960 is African Americans who are who have seen this, who 1703 01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:43.079 have watched it, are absolutely saying that it was absolutely horrific. Period, 1704 01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:44.199 It's absolutely crazy. 1705 01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:45.880 Number two. 1706 01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:50.880 Yeah, number two, let me say clearly that if we 1707 01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:54.800 had a mayor, which I'm not sure if we have one. 1708 01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:59.560 If we had a mayor, the mayor would have extended 1709 01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:03.079 his deepest condolences to the victims. Oh yes, he would 1710 01:30:03.079 --> 01:30:05.920 have found the woman, He would have found the man. 1711 01:30:06.239 --> 01:30:06.760 He would have. 1712 01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:09.319 Found those three or four or five or seven other 1713 01:30:09.520 --> 01:30:13.159 victims and gone to their bedside, gone to their homes, 1714 01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:17.359 gone to the hospital, spoken to their families. He doesn't 1715 01:30:17.399 --> 01:30:22.159 have a heart. He's worried about his next election. This 1716 01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:25.239 is why I supported David Mann in the last election, 1717 01:30:25.359 --> 01:30:28.039 because I said, listen, I just want a mayor who 1718 01:30:28.199 --> 01:30:33.319 cared about Cincinnati. This guy only cares about his next position. 1719 01:30:33.800 --> 01:30:36.800 That's it. We don't have a mayor, and it's why 1720 01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:40.600 I'm supporting Corey Bowman. I'm gonna get real political because 1721 01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:43.640 that's part of the penicillin. People go, oh Man, Smitham 1722 01:30:43.720 --> 01:30:46.960 is getting political. We have an election in November. If 1723 01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:50.159 you vote for this guy, you're voting for what you 1724 01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:54.600 saw downtown. Don't blame me, blame yourself. Look in the mirror. 1725 01:30:55.239 --> 01:30:59.479 You are the problem citizens in Paddock Hills and Clifton 1726 01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:02.800 right in some of our more liberal parts of our community. 1727 01:31:02.840 --> 01:31:06.159 In Paddock Hills, if you and pleasant Ridge, if they 1728 01:31:06.279 --> 01:31:09.199 go in and vote for this mayor, and you saw 1729 01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:11.319 what happened downtown, right. 1730 01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:15.239 This is an incident that makes you, as far as. 1731 01:31:15.079 --> 01:31:19.479 A mayor unqualified to serve. If I had the ability 1732 01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:22.920 to put a petition on the ground to recall him, 1733 01:31:23.279 --> 01:31:27.239 I would, And everybody knows I'm great at petitions. I'd 1734 01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:29.960 have a petition on the ground this week to recall 1735 01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:34.199 this guy. He is absolutely incompetent and should not be 1736 01:31:34.279 --> 01:31:37.560 serving as the mayor of the city of Cincinnati. That's 1737 01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:39.840 where we are, and we have we have liberals out 1738 01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:42.640 here in the media say, oh, man, Corey Bowman's of 1739 01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:45.479 a brother is uh is the is the brother of 1740 01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:47.840 the Vice president of the United States of America. What 1741 01:31:47.960 --> 01:31:51.159 does that have to do with anything. I have four brothers. 1742 01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:53.600 My brothers and I are not the same. I have 1743 01:31:53.720 --> 01:31:56.560 one sister. We're not the same. To act as if 1744 01:31:56.760 --> 01:32:00.479 this this this talking point that the Democrats have, we 1745 01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:02.640 are in a crisis community. 1746 01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:04.039 This is serious. 1747 01:32:04.359 --> 01:32:07.199 We have people that are walking down the street, Brian 1748 01:32:07.279 --> 01:32:08.920 Thomas and I have been talking about it from the 1749 01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:12.399 beginning of the summer, who are just being attacked for 1750 01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:15.880 walking down the street. I believe that these citizens were 1751 01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:17.520 attacked because they were white. 1752 01:32:18.079 --> 01:32:18.840 I believe that. 1753 01:32:18.960 --> 01:32:20.880 I believe it's a hate crime, and I think the 1754 01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:23.640 solution is if I were the mayor, I would be 1755 01:32:23.720 --> 01:32:27.119 calling Governor Mike L. Ryan right now, Governor. I need help. 1756 01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:30.319 I need the National Guard in here. I want a 1757 01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:34.279 National Guard person on every single corner. I want to 1758 01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:36.000 call the State Highway Patrol in. 1759 01:32:36.359 --> 01:32:37.039 We need you. 1760 01:32:37.760 --> 01:32:40.479 I want to bring in the Sheriff's department. I need 1761 01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:44.640 your help, right We've got to quell this before somebody 1762 01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:48.039 else gets killed. And by the way, if you're a 1763 01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:51.840 logical citizen, you're and you have a firearm like I do, 1764 01:32:52.079 --> 01:32:55.319 you're gonna arm yourself this morning, because you're not gonna 1765 01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:57.760 go out there and take this kind of beat down 1766 01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:00.960 and have your wife or your girl friend, or your 1767 01:33:01.079 --> 01:33:03.600 daughter or your niece knocked out. 1768 01:33:04.079 --> 01:33:06.079 That picture is so horridic. 1769 01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:10.439 The way she fell hit the ground, her eyes went still, 1770 01:33:10.840 --> 01:33:14.000 blood was pouring out of her mouth. Oh my god. 1771 01:33:14.079 --> 01:33:17.000 I was like in tears when I saw that this 1772 01:33:17.079 --> 01:33:20.159 is a human being and you have people making fun 1773 01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:22.840 of her. There was one woman who went there, put 1774 01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:25.239 her hand behind her head and pulled her up. There 1775 01:33:25.279 --> 01:33:28.640 was a good Samaritan who intervened. I thank her for that. 1776 01:33:28.880 --> 01:33:31.319 There was a citizen in the other video who walked 1777 01:33:31.359 --> 01:33:33.359 out in front of the car where the white man 1778 01:33:33.439 --> 01:33:35.720 had been drugs in the middle of the street, having 1779 01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:37.960 been knocked out. He looked like he was trying to 1780 01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:42.279 protect him. Another good Samaritan. The reality of it is 1781 01:33:42.279 --> 01:33:45.479 is that this was attempted murder. That's what it was. 1782 01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:48.279 We need the justice department. I don't want this in 1783 01:33:48.319 --> 01:33:50.840 the common police court because they'll let him out. I 1784 01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:53.680 don't want it downtown in Hamilton County because those judges 1785 01:33:53.720 --> 01:33:56.279 will let him out. I want this in federal court. 1786 01:33:56.600 --> 01:34:00.880 I want everybody involved, including those who are videotaped the 1787 01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:03.840 whole incident. It's like driving in a car Brian Thomas 1788 01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:04.840 and a robbery. 1789 01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:05.439 It is happening. 1790 01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:08.520 You're the driver and there's a person there who's robbing. 1791 01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:11.880 Both of you go to tail. Both of you are 1792 01:34:11.920 --> 01:34:12.760 a part of the crime. 1793 01:34:12.960 --> 01:34:16.520 If you're videotaping it and someone is being murdered in 1794 01:34:16.560 --> 01:34:19.520 front of you, you are a part of the crime. 1795 01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:23.800 All of them, all of their cell phones should be confiscated. 1796 01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:26.680 We should have them all in federal court. Based the 1797 01:34:26.760 --> 01:34:29.479 people who actually were doing the kicking, like they were 1798 01:34:29.560 --> 01:34:31.880 kicking that man in his head like he was a football. 1799 01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:36.960 All of them should be facing twenty years to life 1800 01:34:37.279 --> 01:34:39.960 in prison in federal court. This was a hate crime. 1801 01:34:40.119 --> 01:34:42.640 I don't want six months, I don't want one week. 1802 01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:44.840 I want twenty years to life. 1803 01:34:45.439 --> 01:34:47.560 Well, this is on the radar. The US Department of 1804 01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:51.119 Justice Civil Rights Division HAMI. Dillon, who is the Assistant 1805 01:34:51.119 --> 01:34:54.239 Attorney General, issued a statement online saying nobody in a 1806 01:34:54.399 --> 01:34:56.199 great nation should be the victim of such a crime, 1807 01:34:56.239 --> 01:35:00.399 and where race is a motivation, federal law may apply. So, yeah, 1808 01:35:00.399 --> 01:35:02.680 that's true. Maybe the Feds will get involved. We need 1809 01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:05.239 a little more questions answered on what started this and 1810 01:35:05.279 --> 01:35:07.119 whether or not race was a factor in it, but 1811 01:35:07.720 --> 01:35:10.199 it certainly is easy to reach that conclusion. Right now. 1812 01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:16.000 Let's bring Christopher back for a few more words. Seven 1813 01:35:16.520 --> 01:35:19.520 here fifty five karasd talk station. He's always on fire, 1814 01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:22.359 particularly riled up this morning. My good friend and friend 1815 01:35:22.359 --> 01:35:24.680 of the community, former Vice mayor of the City of Sincinnati, 1816 01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:26.880 Christopher Smith, with his thoughts, and Smith had been with 1817 01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:30.239 his thoughts and comments on the violence over the weekend. Christopher, 1818 01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:32.600 you know someone brought up you mentioned in your comments 1819 01:35:32.600 --> 01:35:35.680 the NAACP and someone this morning suggested, you know what, 1820 01:35:36.079 --> 01:35:39.359 that's a very influential, powerful organization. They've got a lot 1821 01:35:39.359 --> 01:35:42.199 of credibility, they have a lot of contacts, and this 1822 01:35:42.239 --> 01:35:44.600 will be a great opportunity for the NAACP to issue 1823 01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:47.119 a statement as well about the violence in the city 1824 01:35:47.159 --> 01:35:49.359 and maybe a call to stop it, change it, work 1825 01:35:49.399 --> 01:35:51.960 with the police, do something to push the city in 1826 01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:54.399 the right direction. You were former president of the NAACP 1827 01:35:54.520 --> 01:35:57.199 Cincinnati Chapter, Christopher, what's your reaction to that kind of thought. 1828 01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:01.920 I serve for seven years, and we at that time 1829 01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:05.920 were the largest chapter in the state of Ohio under 1830 01:36:05.960 --> 01:36:10.000 my presidency, and anybody who came to our meetings, anybody 1831 01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:14.079 listening knew that I didn't play, meaning had to have 1832 01:36:14.239 --> 01:36:19.159 law order to the meetings respectful, just like I served 1833 01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:21.239 when I was Chair of Law and Public Safety. And 1834 01:36:21.279 --> 01:36:24.520 there's no question that if I were the president, that 1835 01:36:24.840 --> 01:36:28.840 already would have been a statement condemning what happened Number one, 1836 01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:33.439 Number two, asking the community to cooperate with the police 1837 01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:37.880 period right and extending my deepest condolences. 1838 01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:38.159 To the victims. 1839 01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:42.439 Meaning if we're having a music festival downtown and you're 1840 01:36:42.520 --> 01:36:46.279 the n DOUBLEACP, you're the local Cincinnati in DOUBLEACP, this 1841 01:36:46.479 --> 01:36:49.600 is an opportunity for you to show balance. By the way, 1842 01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:53.119 let me remind the Cincinnati in DOUBLEACP that it was 1843 01:36:53.199 --> 01:36:58.560 founded by white Americans, Jewish Americans, and African Americans. That's 1844 01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:01.760 what made the n doubleac HE so powerful. So this 1845 01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:05.119 is an opportunity for them to show balance, to be 1846 01:37:05.159 --> 01:37:07.880 able to say, man, something horrible happens. I'm not going 1847 01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:10.720 to just make put my voice in when I see 1848 01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:15.439 African Americans that are harmed by racism or violence or injustice, 1849 01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:18.479 I'm going to focus on injustice. I'm going to allow 1850 01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:24.760 injustice to drive my policies at the NAACP, not race. 1851 01:37:25.239 --> 01:37:28.520 The reality of this is that we have a situation 1852 01:37:29.039 --> 01:37:34.399 where white citizens were targeted in downtown Cincinnati. We have 1853 01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:38.439 an administration who is more worried about the money loss, 1854 01:37:38.439 --> 01:37:42.800 meaning the festival itself. The comments. If someone gets on 1855 01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:45.840 your show and says the attacks had nothing to do 1856 01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:49.039 with the festival, everybody should ask, how do you know that? 1857 01:37:49.239 --> 01:37:52.000 If you've not arrested anybody and you don't know who 1858 01:37:52.079 --> 01:37:54.319 is there, You don't know who these people are, you 1859 01:37:54.359 --> 01:37:56.399 don't even know what they're from, the City of Cincinnati 1860 01:37:56.600 --> 01:38:00.479 so don't make those proclamations. Their job right now is 1861 01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:03.239 to find out who did it and arrest them and 1862 01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:06.439 charge them federally in court. Again, I want to emphasize 1863 01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:08.960 because people say whether the solution, the solution is not 1864 01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:11.800 putting them in Hamilton County just with a hate crime. 1865 01:38:12.119 --> 01:38:15.760 Build your case. Hold people accountable. Now if they fail 1866 01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:19.520 to do this, here's what's going to happen. Citizens from 1867 01:38:19.520 --> 01:38:21.880 the suburbs are not coming into downtown. 1868 01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:23.439 Oh yeah, that's what's going to happen. 1869 01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:25.319 Well, you know, my wife used to go to them. 1870 01:38:26.079 --> 01:38:28.119 My wife used to go to the festivals because you know, 1871 01:38:28.199 --> 01:38:30.399 she loved like Earth Wind and Fire and those bands, 1872 01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:32.239 and she and one of her girlfriends used to go 1873 01:38:32.600 --> 01:38:36.000 fairly regularly. There is no way in hell you could 1874 01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:38.960 get her to go down anymore, not a chance in hell. 1875 01:38:40.319 --> 01:38:43.479 Or your beautiful daughter, oh or anybody that you love, 1876 01:38:43.920 --> 01:38:45.479 your mom or anybody. 1877 01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:46.600 And I'm the same way. 1878 01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:49.680 I literally sent a message out months ago to my kid. 1879 01:38:50.039 --> 01:38:53.840 We have a text change. Nobody go downtown. Don't even 1880 01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:58.199 drive through downtown. I am very concerned about a city 1881 01:38:58.279 --> 01:39:02.119 council that seems to have lost the city. Meaning if 1882 01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:05.520 you look in Clifton. It's now gone into the gaslight 1883 01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:08.439 district where you have eighty to one hundred people just 1884 01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:11.880 in the street blocking the fire department so they can't 1885 01:39:11.880 --> 01:39:15.399 even get out. That's why Stephen Gooden is running for 1886 01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:18.159 city council as a charter right, and I support him. 1887 01:39:18.239 --> 01:39:20.880 He's a really good guy and people should vote for. 1888 01:39:20.880 --> 01:39:21.600 Him, right. 1889 01:39:21.840 --> 01:39:25.520 That's why I'm supporting Linda Matthews, she's running for city council. 1890 01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:28.880 I don't care about what somebody's party is right now. 1891 01:39:28.920 --> 01:39:31.520 We've got to put confidence in people down there, and 1892 01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:34.000 we've got to elect the mayor. And why I support 1893 01:39:34.039 --> 01:39:34.680 Corey Bowman. 1894 01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:35.920 I just want to change. 1895 01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:38.359 Brian Thomas, I'm not going to go in and vote 1896 01:39:38.359 --> 01:39:41.680 the same way so that next year, this time, you 1897 01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:44.159 and I next summer are talking about the same krit 1898 01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:47.520 craziness where we have a mayor who's absent. I'm going 1899 01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:50.560 to say, as we close, where the hell is the mayor? 1900 01:39:51.199 --> 01:39:53.920 We've got Eli Musk weighing in on this, Brian Thomas. 1901 01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:55.479 You've got Brian Thomas. 1902 01:39:55.079 --> 01:39:57.880 Wing in on this, right, and we don't hear from 1903 01:39:57.920 --> 01:39:59.560 mayor pure Ball at all. 1904 01:40:00.319 --> 01:40:04.520 Well, my astute executive producer, as he's a genius guy 1905 01:40:04.680 --> 01:40:06.840 is he just reminded me and I think it's worth noting. 1906 01:40:07.319 --> 01:40:10.279 Guess what's coming up Octoberfest and Riverfest. 1907 01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:15.720 Not worried about the money. They're worried about the money, 1908 01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:18.159 Brian termas they're not worried about what they should be 1909 01:40:18.239 --> 01:40:22.479 focused on, which is they've lost control of our fifty 1910 01:40:22.479 --> 01:40:27.600 two neighborhoods, which includes one of those being Downtown. I'm 1911 01:40:27.680 --> 01:40:31.399 letting you know how the politician thinks. This mayor believes 1912 01:40:31.399 --> 01:40:34.520 that he can hide, he can wait this out. He 1913 01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:37.039 doesn't want to come out publicly because he's worried about 1914 01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:40.640 pissing off African Americans. If the mayor's office is listening. 1915 01:40:41.239 --> 01:40:44.680 You think so little of us as African Americans that 1916 01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:48.039 you think we would support this craziness that you think 1917 01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:50.920 that law abiding African American citizens that live in the 1918 01:40:50.920 --> 01:40:54.039 city of Cincinnati would not vote for you because you 1919 01:40:54.159 --> 01:40:59.600 say that people were indiscriminately attacked violently downtown who absolutely 1920 01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:03.319 was a You think that that's where the African American 1921 01:41:03.359 --> 01:41:06.119 community is and we can't find you with a search 1922 01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:08.680 war It tells you what he really thinks. 1923 01:41:08.479 --> 01:41:11.279 About us, which it's not a lot. 1924 01:41:12.600 --> 01:41:14.520 You don't think a lot about us if you think 1925 01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:17.119 that standing in front of a mic condemning this, that 1926 01:41:17.199 --> 01:41:20.399 African American voters are gonna say, oh man, we're now 1927 01:41:20.479 --> 01:41:23.520 not gonna vote for you. We're searching for leadership, just 1928 01:41:23.600 --> 01:41:26.560 like the white community, the Latino community, the Asian community. 1929 01:41:26.840 --> 01:41:30.000 We have an incompetent mayor. We have a council that 1930 01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:33.560 is absent if this had happened to say, what's the solution. 1931 01:41:33.680 --> 01:41:34.279 What would be a. 1932 01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:37.760 Normal reaction from city Hall? We are holding right now, 1933 01:41:37.800 --> 01:41:41.039 calling an emergency meeting at City Hall, Chair of Law 1934 01:41:41.079 --> 01:41:43.760 and Public Safety. We're gonna bring the police, chep in. 1935 01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:46.239 We're gonna bring the FBI in. We're gonna bring the 1936 01:41:46.279 --> 01:41:50.479 ATF in. We're gonna bring in the fans who could 1937 01:41:50.479 --> 01:41:54.079 prosecute this, the attorney general. We're gonna make sure that 1938 01:41:54.119 --> 01:41:56.960 we are all on the same page and we reassure 1939 01:41:57.000 --> 01:41:59.520 the citizens that we are on top of it. Guess 1940 01:41:59.600 --> 01:42:02.760 what nowhere to be found. It's not gonna happen because 1941 01:42:02.760 --> 01:42:05.760 they're more concerned about the November election. And guess what, 1942 01:42:06.039 --> 01:42:08.439 citizens who are listening, You go in and vote for 1943 01:42:08.479 --> 01:42:11.760 these same people, you're gonna get the same You're gonna 1944 01:42:11.760 --> 01:42:12.640 get the same result. 1945 01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:14.319 That's what's gonna happen. 1946 01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:18.039 Not pulling any punches today is typically the case. Christopher Smithman, 1947 01:42:18.079 --> 01:42:20.680 thank you so so much. I appreciate it. 1948 01:42:20.720 --> 01:42:22.640 Thank you so much for putting a voice to this, 1949 01:42:22.760 --> 01:42:24.960 because if you had not done it, if you know 1950 01:42:25.279 --> 01:42:28.199 you were watching it, the local media wasn't covering it 1951 01:42:28.239 --> 01:42:30.920 at all. It was like it never happened. Yes, if 1952 01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:33.880 Brian Thomas isn't on the morning from five to nine 1953 01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:36.640 telling us what the hell is going on in our city, 1954 01:42:36.760 --> 01:42:39.319 there are a lot of times, to your listening audience, 1955 01:42:39.520 --> 01:42:41.960 we wouldn't even know what was going on. So thank 1956 01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:44.399 you Brian Thomas for giving us a voice. 1957 01:42:44.479 --> 01:42:46.560 It's a pleasure to dealing. It's better pleasure to be 1958 01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:49.079 in a position to do so. Christopher, and I appreciate 1959 01:42:49.159 --> 01:42:52.119 the great comments you always provide for my audience every Monday. 1960 01:42:52.119 --> 01:42:54.319 I'll look forward to another one next Monday and hopefully 1961 01:42:54.319 --> 01:42:57.479 maybe something better to talk about. We'll find out then, Christopher, 1962 01:42:57.479 --> 01:42:58.479 God bless you, my friend. 1963 01:42:58.560 --> 01:43:03.199 Thank you hear about it and then yea, the Epstein hoaps, 1964 01:43:03.199 --> 01:43:04.920 these fellows have to be released talking about it. 1965 01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:06.000 I want to know the truth. 1966 01:43:06.439 --> 01:43:07.880 People say same. 1967 01:43:07.840 --> 01:43:14.359 On fifty five KRCD talk station to Shiabato six right now, 1968 01:43:14.399 --> 01:43:16.880 but you buy par CD talk station. I hope you're 1969 01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:18.760 having a decent Monday. Always a good time to be 1970 01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:20.840 listening to the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Moving away 1971 01:43:20.880 --> 01:43:23.760 from some of the more tragic incidents going here in 1972 01:43:23.800 --> 01:43:25.800 downtown Cincinnati over the weekend, there's still other things going 1973 01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:27.600 on in the world. We still got to worry about money, 1974 01:43:28.039 --> 01:43:30.640 and we need to worry about the Federal Reserve hiking 1975 01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:33.279 interest rates or lowering interest rates. Welcome back from all 1976 01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:36.319 Worth Financial Brian James, do another edition of Money Monday. 1977 01:43:36.560 --> 01:43:39.039 Good morning, mister Thomas, thanks for having me once again. 1978 01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:41.000 All right, all I've heard and I know the Trump 1979 01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:43.359 administration wants the Fed to lower the interest rates. There 1980 01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:45.800 have been discussions about maybe reducing it by twenty five 1981 01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:48.960 bases points. Nobody's really talking about raising it. But there 1982 01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:51.079 was an interesting article today and if we haven't seen it, 1983 01:43:51.079 --> 01:43:53.279 I'll refer you to it. Don't rule out a rakehike 1984 01:43:53.359 --> 01:43:56.239 by William Silver, who's written on matters economic and written 1985 01:43:56.239 --> 01:43:59.680 books before. He said someone at the meeting should say 1986 01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:02.399 the might have to raise its target rate at some 1987 01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:06.239 point during the year. Noting that unemployment rate remains pretty 1988 01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:10.079 dang low, but the rate of inflation is still somewhat elevated, suggesting, 1989 01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:12.640 in his words, if anything, the target interest rates should 1990 01:44:12.680 --> 01:44:16.479 be higher to push down inflation. No, here, I haven't 1991 01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:19.520 heard anybody talk about that prior to my reading this 1992 01:44:19.640 --> 01:44:21.520 article this morning. Was either going to stay the same 1993 01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:23.359 or it was going to get lowered. What do you think, 1994 01:44:23.399 --> 01:44:24.479 Brian James. 1995 01:44:24.359 --> 01:44:27.319 Well, yeah, I think it's pretty tough for folks to 1996 01:44:27.359 --> 01:44:29.960 go against the grain here. You know, you look a 1997 01:44:29.960 --> 01:44:32.960 lot of these political voices, and unfortunately, like it or not, 1998 01:44:33.039 --> 01:44:34.760 a lot of them are tied to President Trump, and 1999 01:44:34.800 --> 01:44:37.800 he's of course advocating for the opposite and has been 2000 01:44:37.840 --> 01:44:41.119 doing that very loudly for basically the last decade. So yeah, 2001 01:44:41.119 --> 01:44:42.439 it is a little bit surprising to hear it, to 2002 01:44:42.479 --> 01:44:44.960 hear anybody come out against, you know, the idea of 2003 01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:47.720 lowering rates. Some people still see inflation out there. We've 2004 01:44:47.720 --> 01:44:50.199 got we've got some good headlines over the weekend related 2005 01:44:50.199 --> 01:44:52.279 to tariff that we're going to get to here and shortly. 2006 01:44:52.319 --> 01:44:55.680 But you know, we haven't beaten the inflation monster yet 2007 01:44:55.720 --> 01:44:57.960 completely one hundred percent, but we made a lot of 2008 01:44:57.960 --> 01:45:00.279 progress there, So, yeah, I would agree with you. I'm 2009 01:45:00.319 --> 01:45:03.439 not sure I see the benefit or the risk. I mean, 2010 01:45:03.439 --> 01:45:05.319 maybe it's a topic to talk about. That's why there's 2011 01:45:05.319 --> 01:45:08.920 only a handful of voices, you know, out that about that. 2012 01:45:08.960 --> 01:45:11.479 There are a few people out there, you know, Neil 2013 01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:15.279 Kashkari and the Minneapolis Fed. He has hinted that he's 2014 01:45:15.359 --> 01:45:17.880 open to leaving the door open for another hike if 2015 01:45:17.880 --> 01:45:22.199 we still see price pressures resuming. Cleveland FED Representative Loredamester 2016 01:45:22.319 --> 01:45:25.680 said similar, she's just really tight on None of them 2017 01:45:25.680 --> 01:45:28.119 are as vocal as this individual is. But you know, 2018 01:45:28.520 --> 01:45:31.119 I really only hear it in hints. Otherwise, well it 2019 01:45:31.199 --> 01:45:34.000 was noted again. I'm going back to this, mister silber guy. 2020 01:45:34.560 --> 01:45:37.359 Congress has to pay the government's bills, right, so it 2021 01:45:37.520 --> 01:45:40.760 too likes low interest rates. So this low interest rates 2022 01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:44.560 doesn't really bear a political stripe. Low interest rates are 2023 01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:51.039 if you ignore the inflationary reality that might exist. I mean, Democrats, Republicans, independence, communists, 2024 01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:54.359 everybody enjoys the benefits of lower interest rates, if for 2025 01:45:54.359 --> 01:45:56.039 no other reason it tends to have an impact on 2026 01:45:56.039 --> 01:45:59.640 what somebody pays for a home in the mortgage rate. Yeah, 2027 01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:02.279 and that of course is where we feel at the most. 2028 01:46:02.359 --> 01:46:04.520 That's we've had a lot of home buyers. If you've 2029 01:46:04.520 --> 01:46:06.079 bought a home in the last four or five years, 2030 01:46:06.119 --> 01:46:09.520 then yes, you are paying probably six to seven percent. Ironically, 2031 01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:12.479 I did get an email over the weekend from a 2032 01:46:12.520 --> 01:46:14.760 client who was asking if we should borrow against the 2033 01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:17.119 home to invest in the market. And first off, that 2034 01:46:17.159 --> 01:46:19.159 is the sign of a market, of a market top 2035 01:46:19.199 --> 01:46:21.479 and people start thinking that way. But I think he's 2036 01:46:21.560 --> 01:46:23.399 not a person who has a mortgage right now. He's 2037 01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:26.079 not dealing with he's considering putting one back in place, 2038 01:46:26.279 --> 01:46:28.479 and I think he has forgotten, as a lot of 2039 01:46:28.479 --> 01:46:31.600 people have, that rates for people who are putting mortgages 2040 01:46:31.640 --> 01:46:33.960 in place are in the six to seven percent range. 2041 01:46:34.079 --> 01:46:36.079 It's not the three to four space or the two 2042 01:46:36.159 --> 01:46:38.199 space that we were in just a few years ago. 2043 01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:40.399 So I do think there's a big difference between people 2044 01:46:40.439 --> 01:46:42.640 who aren't dealing with mortgages and those who are. 2045 01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:45.239 Well, it's a really important thing to focus on that 2046 01:46:45.399 --> 01:46:47.680 very point, because you're going to have to get north 2047 01:46:47.800 --> 01:46:51.239 of seven percent ROI in order to cover the no 2048 01:46:51.399 --> 01:46:53.319 on what you borrowed to put in the market. So 2049 01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:56.159 that's that's not always guaranteed, is it, Brian James. 2050 01:46:55.960 --> 01:46:58.319 Oh no, yeah, we talk about that a lot here 2051 01:46:58.319 --> 01:47:00.399 at my little table when we discussed my names, plans 2052 01:47:00.399 --> 01:47:03.039 and market history and all that. And and I know why, 2053 01:47:03.159 --> 01:47:05.640 of course, it's because ever since twenty two the market 2054 01:47:05.640 --> 01:47:07.880 has been on an absolute tear. We've had some you know, 2055 01:47:08.079 --> 01:47:11.039 very nerve wracking drops in things with the election and 2056 01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:13.880 the policies that President Trumps put in place, but all 2057 01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:16.560 in all, the market's been up significantly and strongly. We 2058 01:47:16.640 --> 01:47:18.560 always get to a point there where people just kind 2059 01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:22.319 of lose that last bit of defensiveness in terms of 2060 01:47:22.600 --> 01:47:25.279 you know this, this can't go on forever. Well, when 2061 01:47:25.319 --> 01:47:28.039 that disappears, we start thinking about things like mortgaging the 2062 01:47:28.039 --> 01:47:29.920 house to invest a little more. And that's just and 2063 01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:31.640 usually it's people who don't really need that in. 2064 01:47:31.640 --> 01:47:32.279 The first place. 2065 01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:33.960 So I got a call to make this afternoon. 2066 01:47:34.159 --> 01:47:37.439 Well, these these folks at the FED, I mean, they 2067 01:47:37.479 --> 01:47:39.720 don't I mean, they're not tea leaf readers, and they 2068 01:47:39.760 --> 01:47:42.000 can't see into the future. They don't know which directions 2069 01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:43.840 it's going to go in terms of the economy. They're 2070 01:47:43.840 --> 01:47:45.760 just really playing a guessing game, aren't they. 2071 01:47:46.640 --> 01:47:48.520 Well, I mean there are some of the smartest brains 2072 01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:50.239 we have out there on this and they and they 2073 01:47:50.239 --> 01:47:52.920 do have to you know, somebody has to actually make 2074 01:47:52.960 --> 01:47:55.640 decisions and push buttons and pull levers that will have 2075 01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:59.279 an impact good, bad, or indifferent, and those people are 2076 01:47:59.359 --> 01:48:02.319 under a lot of stress. President Trump always has the ability, 2077 01:48:02.399 --> 01:48:04.720 He's got the advantage of being able to change his 2078 01:48:04.760 --> 01:48:07.359 mind on a dime. And as we've seen, you know 2079 01:48:07.560 --> 01:48:09.600 it just in just in this administration, and we saw 2080 01:48:09.640 --> 01:48:12.159 it a couple of ministrations ago in his first go round. 2081 01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:14.039 He can do whatever he wants from day to day 2082 01:48:14.079 --> 01:48:16.039 and everybody else has to deal with it. On the 2083 01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:18.920 other hand, those representing the Federal Reserve making those decisions, 2084 01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:21.640 they will not be able to raise rates today and 2085 01:48:21.640 --> 01:48:24.199 then lower them tomorrow the way tariff Trump is handling 2086 01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:25.239 things like Tariff's. 2087 01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:27.520 Right, And they also don't have any obligation to listen 2088 01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:30.039 to what Trump wants. I mean again, I go back 2089 01:48:30.039 --> 01:48:31.359 to do The one thing I always stuck in my 2090 01:48:31.359 --> 01:48:34.279 mind was the Carter administrations and their epic battle with 2091 01:48:34.399 --> 01:48:38.319 who was it green Span or Vulcar Vulcanulker, and I mean, 2092 01:48:38.359 --> 01:48:41.680 come on, interest rates were just through the blanket roof 2093 01:48:41.760 --> 01:48:44.359 and you know, Carter was screaming, please, dear God, lower 2094 01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:45.800 the interest rates. They ignored him. 2095 01:48:46.279 --> 01:48:48.960 Yeah, and his the approach he took, you know that, 2096 01:48:48.960 --> 01:48:51.319 that's what they call the Vulcar rule, right, they named 2097 01:48:51.319 --> 01:48:54.840 a rule after him. But yeah, he fought inflation so 2098 01:48:55.000 --> 01:48:58.359 fiercely and it hurt a lot. That was a significant recession. 2099 01:48:58.600 --> 01:49:00.640 But now as we as we look at it, that's 2100 01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:03.439 considered a benchmark of just a bold, aggressive way to 2101 01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:07.560 conquer inflation, even though it was unpopular and not very popular, 2102 01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:10.239 you know, politically. Even so, it did cost some lesser 2103 01:49:10.680 --> 01:49:13.560 politicians their roles. But Paul Volker has looked at as 2104 01:49:13.600 --> 01:49:15.840 a pretty smart dude nowadays for having done that. Well, 2105 01:49:16.560 --> 01:49:19.279 fought the fought against the tide of people who don't 2106 01:49:19.359 --> 01:49:19.560 like that. 2107 01:49:19.760 --> 01:49:23.399 Oh, obviously it worked because it came down eventually, right. 2108 01:49:24.079 --> 01:49:26.680 Yes, And then think about deeper history than that, And 2109 01:49:26.720 --> 01:49:29.600 then that launched a period of about twenty years, the 2110 01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:32.640 eighties and the nineties, where really nothing bad happened. I mean, 2111 01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:34.720 that's a bit of an overstatement, but my gosh, when 2112 01:49:34.720 --> 01:49:36.600 I think of the prior twenty years that we've been 2113 01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:38.760 through since the turn of the century and the eighties 2114 01:49:38.760 --> 01:49:41.680 and the nineties. Eighties and the nineties were the anomaly, Brian. 2115 01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:43.840 We had a long period of time where where there's 2116 01:49:43.840 --> 01:49:45.560 a lot of people with money now who that's the 2117 01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:47.960 period that they made it in. And those folks conclude 2118 01:49:47.960 --> 01:49:50.359 that the anomaly has been the last twenty years where 2119 01:49:50.359 --> 01:49:52.079 we've had a whole bunch of crazy. But really, if 2120 01:49:52.119 --> 01:49:55.319 you look over the couple hundred quarter millennium of the 2121 01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:58.079 history of this country, it's actually the eighties and the 2122 01:49:58.159 --> 01:50:01.000 nineties that were probably about the beast period we've ever had. 2123 01:50:01.520 --> 01:50:04.479 And do you think and I always have this weird 2124 01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:08.279 sort of I don't like mc mansions for a multitude 2125 01:50:08.319 --> 01:50:10.680 of reasons. I'm not I listen one man with one opinion, 2126 01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:14.159 it doesn't matter. But the size of houses have just 2127 01:50:14.199 --> 01:50:17.479 gotten very, very large for the past several decades. Do 2128 01:50:17.520 --> 01:50:19.720 you think that it's because of low interest rates that 2129 01:50:19.760 --> 01:50:22.640 it had an impact on, you know, the size and 2130 01:50:22.279 --> 01:50:25.399 the and how much people invested in any given home. 2131 01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:28.840 Because if you had to pay, like exam what my 2132 01:50:28.880 --> 01:50:30.720 wife and I paid and we got our first home, 2133 01:50:31.159 --> 01:50:34.119 you probably wouldn't be looking at large and giant. You'd 2134 01:50:34.119 --> 01:50:37.039 be looking at something maybe a little bit more efficient 2135 01:50:37.079 --> 01:50:37.920 and affordable. 2136 01:50:38.199 --> 01:50:40.720 So I'll give you this example. So this is what 2137 01:50:40.840 --> 01:50:43.479 happened to me in terms of when I was looking 2138 01:50:43.520 --> 01:50:45.760 for my first mortgage about thirty years ago, when we 2139 01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:49.119 were first getting settled in the mortgage loan originator and 2140 01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:50.760 I was working for a bank at the time, mortgage 2141 01:50:50.800 --> 01:50:54.119 loan originator. The discussion was about how much can I afford? 2142 01:50:54.159 --> 01:50:56.880 How many square feet can I buy for whatever fits 2143 01:50:56.920 --> 01:50:59.000 my budget. It had nothing to do nobody asked you 2144 01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:00.760 have kids, you plan on having kids, how many kids? 2145 01:51:00.760 --> 01:51:02.199 How big of a house? They said, here's what you 2146 01:51:02.199 --> 01:51:04.840 can afford right now, based on interest rates. And of course, 2147 01:51:04.880 --> 01:51:07.920 remember who's pulling the strings, who benefits The banks of 2148 01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:10.800 course were and this was a period of time where 2149 01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:13.640 we had run up to a financial crisis in two 2150 01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:16.319 thousand and eight based on mortgages. Banks were looking under 2151 01:51:16.359 --> 01:51:19.239 every stone for every last opportunity to take advantage of 2152 01:51:19.279 --> 01:51:22.000 the fact that people were really excited about low interest rates. 2153 01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:24.640 So yes, absolutely, Brian. Of course we were encouraged from 2154 01:51:24.640 --> 01:51:27.840 a thousand different points about just buy a bigger home 2155 01:51:27.880 --> 01:51:28.880 because you can afford it. 2156 01:51:29.359 --> 01:51:32.760 And as a financial planner, there was always like a 2157 01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:36.279 figure you shouldn't be spending more on x percent, more 2158 01:51:36.319 --> 01:51:40.560 than x percent of your annual earnings on home ownership. 2159 01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:42.720 Is there a figure that we can think about and 2160 01:51:43.159 --> 01:51:45.520 look to it as a good guidance still to this day. 2161 01:51:46.039 --> 01:51:48.279 I mean, it's just gotten a little fuzzier because some 2162 01:51:48.319 --> 01:51:50.960 of the numbers that worked thirty years ago don't work anymore, 2163 01:51:51.079 --> 01:51:54.359 just because wages have not risen as fast as homes. 2164 01:51:54.439 --> 01:51:56.680 So I would go back to what I always say, 2165 01:51:57.359 --> 01:51:59.520 and you say this on my behalf as well, have 2166 01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:02.520 a plan, Understand what you can get away with, Understand 2167 01:52:02.600 --> 01:52:04.880 what you are responsible for in the first place. And 2168 01:52:04.880 --> 01:52:07.640 I would put a very heavy emphasis on your own retirement. 2169 01:52:07.880 --> 01:52:10.520 Focus on your own retirement, building that nest egg. Then 2170 01:52:10.600 --> 01:52:13.079 figure out what the mortgage payment should be. Don't focus 2171 01:52:13.079 --> 01:52:14.640 on the giant house the way we did in the 2172 01:52:14.960 --> 01:52:17.359 late nineties and early two thousands, and then worry about 2173 01:52:17.359 --> 01:52:19.279 your four oh one K. That's gonna work against you. 2174 01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:22.119 Yeah, just remember the bigger than homing. Buy the more 2175 01:52:22.159 --> 01:52:24.640 furniture you're gonna have your bib timy bill doesn't stop 2176 01:52:24.640 --> 01:52:27.279 with the interest right now, It sure doesn't. I've been 2177 01:52:27.279 --> 01:52:29.560 to a lot of houses with a lot of empty rooms. 2178 01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:31.920 Don't go away We'll continue with Brian James talking about 2179 01:52:31.920 --> 01:52:34.439 the tariff deal. Looks like dumps. I gotta win with 2180 01:52:34.520 --> 01:52:37.840 European Union or is it China on the plate as well? 2181 01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:40.439 Plus corporate earnings are coming out this week. Or with 2182 01:52:40.479 --> 01:52:42.760 Brian James at Tate fifteen right now, I'll be right back. 2183 01:52:42.840 --> 01:52:44.720 Fifty five krc. 2184 01:52:44.760 --> 01:52:49.079 Our iHeart read Hey, nineteen fifty five KRCD Talk Station. 2185 01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:52.359 Another segment here with money Monday's Brian James from all 2186 01:52:52.399 --> 01:52:55.279 Worth Financial. We're gonna hear from Rabbi Ari jun on 2187 01:52:55.319 --> 01:52:57.680 the robling Bridge protest. He'll be in studio next. Let's 2188 01:52:57.680 --> 01:53:00.279 stuff these last two topics into one segment. Brian James 2189 01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:03.319 tariff deal with the EU. We got a fifteen percent 2190 01:53:03.359 --> 01:53:06.119 tariff deal, many reviewing it positively, a promise of six 2191 01:53:06.159 --> 01:53:08.680 hundred billion dollars in investment for the European Union in 2192 01:53:08.720 --> 01:53:12.239 the United States over time, seven hundred and fifty billion 2193 01:53:12.279 --> 01:53:15.119 dollars worth of their energy purchases from the United States 2194 01:53:15.199 --> 01:53:19.039 over time, and apparently hundreds of billions of dollars in arms purchases, 2195 01:53:19.159 --> 01:53:23.239 making the military industrial complex very happy. We also had 2196 01:53:23.279 --> 01:53:26.800 him negotiate a deal with Japan as well, and he's 2197 01:53:26.840 --> 01:53:30.000 sitting down to talk with China. I guess beginning maybe today, 2198 01:53:30.520 --> 01:53:31.720 what's your take on the tariffs? 2199 01:53:31.720 --> 01:53:34.079 Brian, Well, this is all good news in terms of 2200 01:53:34.159 --> 01:53:36.439 it answers the question. We all know that the market 2201 01:53:36.479 --> 01:53:39.560 and the economy really, really really super hate the unknown. 2202 01:53:39.720 --> 01:53:41.119 Yes, in futures. 2203 01:53:41.119 --> 01:53:43.520 As we're talking about this right now, I think you're 2204 01:53:43.520 --> 01:53:45.960 doing a whole bunch of nothing. Yep, that's true. So 2205 01:53:46.119 --> 01:53:49.239 pretty quiet on the market and what that looks like. 2206 01:53:49.359 --> 01:53:51.079 The reason that's a good thing, obviously, is because it 2207 01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:53.800 means we're not spooked about things. A question has been answered. 2208 01:53:54.079 --> 01:53:56.520 So the headline is the US and EU are at 2209 01:53:56.560 --> 01:54:00.000 a deal now at fifteen percent tariffs on steel and aluminum, 2210 01:54:00.079 --> 01:54:02.439 and so that's going to prevent this larger trade war 2211 01:54:02.479 --> 01:54:05.640 from happening. And the threat there was that the original 2212 01:54:05.680 --> 01:54:07.479 Trump era tariffs were going to come back twenty five 2213 01:54:07.479 --> 01:54:11.199 percent on steel and ten percent aluminum, and so this 2214 01:54:11.239 --> 01:54:13.880 is going to replace a twenty twenty one deal that 2215 01:54:14.039 --> 01:54:16.640 paused the tariffs and those were going to expire anyway, 2216 01:54:16.760 --> 01:54:19.439 and so that this is all everybody wants to make 2217 01:54:19.479 --> 01:54:25.199 sure we don't have an overcapacity situation, and so we're 2218 01:54:25.239 --> 01:54:27.319 just out of situation where we've answered the question and 2219 01:54:27.359 --> 01:54:29.039 we can kind of get to move on a little bit. 2220 01:54:29.279 --> 01:54:32.640 That is good news. Not everybody in Europe is happy, 2221 01:54:32.680 --> 01:54:35.359 of course, right because you know, some of these countries 2222 01:54:35.399 --> 01:54:39.479 didn't have any kind of the tariffs levied against the 2223 01:54:39.560 --> 01:54:42.159 United States. So this is we're we're kind of taking 2224 01:54:42.199 --> 01:54:44.680 the first shots against them. But the US is just 2225 01:54:44.720 --> 01:54:47.920 throwing its weight around, and the EU at the moment 2226 01:54:47.960 --> 01:54:51.479 has acquiesced and conceded a decent amount of the United States. 2227 01:54:51.479 --> 01:54:54.079 Well, at least it shows we still have some weight. Brian. 2228 01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:57.680 Yeah, and that's a little bit of a relief, isn't it. 2229 01:54:57.680 --> 01:55:00.399 It is you know, we may have started to feel 2230 01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:03.000 briefly there like we may have overshot and maybe we're 2231 01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:06.000 a little overly confident in how much the rest of 2232 01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:07.960 the world has to rely on the United States. Well, 2233 01:55:08.399 --> 01:55:10.399 this is a couple of check marks in the good column. 2234 01:55:10.640 --> 01:55:13.199 Well, I know that some more think, okay, fine, fifteen 2235 01:55:13.239 --> 01:55:17.239 percent a lot better than fifty And I know VW 2236 01:55:17.279 --> 01:55:19.960 has been hit really hard, as has some others BMW, 2237 01:55:20.039 --> 01:55:22.199 Mercedes and other German carmakers at twenty seven and a 2238 01:55:22.239 --> 01:55:24.439 half percent U of tariff, so they get a little 2239 01:55:24.439 --> 01:55:28.159 relief from that. But what about the concept of zero 2240 01:55:28.279 --> 01:55:28.800 for zero? 2241 01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:32.399 Well, I think that what do we just say, though 2242 01:55:32.439 --> 01:55:34.880 that doesn't throw the United States weight around, right? We 2243 01:55:35.279 --> 01:55:38.840 want to impose our will on the rest of the world, 2244 01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:40.560 you know, good, bad or in different Not everybody agrees 2245 01:55:40.600 --> 01:55:42.279 that this is the right approach, but that's what we 2246 01:55:42.319 --> 01:55:44.680 elected in November. And remember where we all where this 2247 01:55:44.760 --> 01:55:47.079 all started. One of the very first topics that came 2248 01:55:47.159 --> 01:55:49.720 up was all countries are going to start to pay 2249 01:55:49.720 --> 01:55:52.439 what they committed to in terms of supporting NATO and 2250 01:55:52.439 --> 01:55:55.600 support supporting those military alliances. This is just the next 2251 01:55:55.640 --> 01:55:57.960 phase of the same thing. The United States was able 2252 01:55:57.960 --> 01:56:00.199 to force those countries, and those were things that they 2253 01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:03.119 had all agreed to and simply not held up on 2254 01:56:03.199 --> 01:56:04.960 what they had signed off on years ago. In the 2255 01:56:05.039 --> 01:56:07.000 United States picked up the tab because we deemed it 2256 01:56:07.039 --> 01:56:09.239 more important to have that in place, and the other 2257 01:56:09.279 --> 01:56:11.119 countries just relied on the fact that we would step 2258 01:56:11.119 --> 01:56:12.800 in and they were right. So this, I think is 2259 01:56:12.840 --> 01:56:14.920 the tit for tat to me, this is the zero 2260 01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:18.079 for zero. We forced other countries to pay their share, 2261 01:56:18.119 --> 01:56:19.640 and this is how we're getting back on the other end. 2262 01:56:19.800 --> 01:56:22.199 The earnings report. It's earning season. Was supposed to be 2263 01:56:22.239 --> 01:56:24.680 some earnings report coming out this week. According to the 2264 01:56:24.720 --> 01:56:28.880 Reuters headline, it's AI good, Artificial intelligence good everything else. Yeah, 2265 01:56:28.920 --> 01:56:30.159 not so much, Brian. 2266 01:56:30.560 --> 01:56:32.239 So yeah, we had to have good runs. So the 2267 01:56:32.279 --> 01:56:34.199 market's up as we're sitting here about eight percent. As 2268 01:56:34.239 --> 01:56:36.039 we know, all that really matters. All we care about 2269 01:56:36.159 --> 01:56:38.840 is not what our earnings. It's whether the analysts were right. 2270 01:56:38.920 --> 01:56:42.239 So we always look at what the analyst said versus 2271 01:56:42.279 --> 01:56:45.000 what's happening. So through last Friday, one hundred and sixty 2272 01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:47.159 eight of our five hundred favored companies in the S 2273 01:56:47.199 --> 01:56:50.520 and B five hundred have reported. Eighty two percent of 2274 01:56:50.560 --> 01:56:54.920 them have beaten their profit in estimates, and we're about 2275 01:56:54.920 --> 01:56:57.399 four and a half percent over second quarter last year. 2276 01:56:57.560 --> 01:56:59.479 So that is all those are all good things. We're 2277 01:56:59.479 --> 01:57:01.760 on a good run. A lot of it, yes, is 2278 01:57:01.760 --> 01:57:04.439 being driven by AI, not only the companies that produce it, 2279 01:57:04.680 --> 01:57:06.960 but companies that are taking advantage of it and using 2280 01:57:06.960 --> 01:57:09.399 to using it to find new markets, create new products 2281 01:57:09.439 --> 01:57:10.880 and make things more efficient. 2282 01:57:12.359 --> 01:57:16.319 Well well, well, Brian James, question for you everybody talking 2283 01:57:16.319 --> 01:57:19.560 about AI AI AI AI, you know, data centers being built, 2284 01:57:19.600 --> 01:57:21.840 billions of dollars being spent, et cetera, et cetera. This 2285 01:57:21.920 --> 01:57:24.840 sounds to me like the potential for a future bubble burst. 2286 01:57:25.039 --> 01:57:27.319 Any comment on my thoughts along those lines. 2287 01:57:27.520 --> 01:57:29.720 Absolutely, You know. I like to talk about catalysts all 2288 01:57:29.720 --> 01:57:31.800 the time, right. The catalyst in the in the late 2289 01:57:31.880 --> 01:57:34.720 nineties was the web itself, Yahoo and all those other 2290 01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:37.760 names that we've all since forgotten about. Then after that 2291 01:57:37.880 --> 01:57:41.399 it became real estate. After that it became the cloud. 2292 01:57:41.439 --> 01:57:43.319 Remember we talked talked about the cloud fifteen years and 2293 01:57:43.439 --> 01:57:45.880 now some we use every day. It was mobile devices 2294 01:57:45.880 --> 01:57:47.840 and all that. This is just the latest thing that 2295 01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:50.359 The best example I can give of that is is Covid. 2296 01:57:50.359 --> 01:57:51.920 Remember when Covid was going to kill us all and 2297 01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:53.800 was going to end the world. Well, no, it turned 2298 01:57:53.840 --> 01:57:56.760 into a boon for companies like zoom In, companies like 2299 01:57:56.840 --> 01:57:59.960 Dell who had to create enough stuff so that all 2300 01:58:00.039 --> 01:58:02.119 Worth and all the companies that we're sending employees home 2301 01:58:02.279 --> 01:58:06.079 could replicate desktops in the home environment. Everything that happens, good, 2302 01:58:06.079 --> 01:58:09.399 bad and different winds up becoming a catalyst for someone 2303 01:58:09.439 --> 01:58:11.399 to make a profit. And AI is no different. 2304 01:58:11.560 --> 01:58:14.600 The entrepreneurial spirits live and well it's just working on 2305 01:58:14.600 --> 01:58:16.800 the landscape that's been working, playing the hand that's been 2306 01:58:16.880 --> 01:58:18.720 dealt and dealing with and coming up in new ways 2307 01:58:18.760 --> 01:58:21.640 to do it. That's innovation right there. Brian James, always 2308 01:58:21.680 --> 01:58:23.640 a pleasure to having you. I appreciate all worth loaning 2309 01:58:23.680 --> 01:58:25.279 you out every Monday for this segment. I hope you 2310 01:58:25.279 --> 01:58:27.159 have a wonderful week, my friend. I will talk to 2311 01:58:27.159 --> 01:58:29.199 you in seven days A twenty five ify five K 2312 01:58:29.359 --> 01:58:31.880 see the talk station. The retur of Rabbi ri June's 2313 01:58:31.880 --> 01:58:34.720 gonna be talking about the Robling Bridge protests, which was 2314 01:58:35.119 --> 01:58:40.439 in support of i'mom Amon Solomon, whom ice detained and 2315 01:58:40.479 --> 01:58:43.760 then we had sort of a situation breakdown with people 2316 01:58:43.760 --> 01:58:47.359 taking over the bridge resulting in police activity. Rabbi John 2317 01:58:47.439 --> 01:58:49.479 on that subject and maybe even get him to comment 2318 01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:52.920 on the situation unfolding between Israel and Gaza. Right now, 2319 01:58:53.039 --> 01:58:55.359 stick around for the Rabbi. He'll be on next fifty 2320 01:58:55.439 --> 01:59:06.560 five car the talk station. Channe first one to Weether 2321 01:59:06.560 --> 01:59:09.159 four Kass. It's gonna be mostly cloudy day, isolated showers 2322 01:59:09.199 --> 01:59:11.239 and they show up afternoon. It's gonna be high ninety two, 2323 01:59:11.319 --> 01:59:15.159 low one hundred heat index, humid overnight muggy seventy six 2324 01:59:15.199 --> 01:59:18.039 is low and cloudy, partly cloudy. Tomorrow hot humid ninety 2325 01:59:18.039 --> 01:59:20.359 four with the heat index low one hundreds. Tuesday night 2326 01:59:20.399 --> 01:59:23.479 partly cloudy, muggy seventy three, and on Wednesday another partly 2327 01:59:23.479 --> 01:59:26.119 cloudy day with scattered showers and storms possible and a 2328 01:59:26.159 --> 01:59:28.880 high of ninety two seventy six degrees. Right now, let's 2329 01:59:28.880 --> 01:59:31.960 turn out to Chuck and get a traffic update from. 2330 01:59:31.880 --> 01:59:34.840 The UCUP Tramphing Center, UC Health Weight Boss Center off 2331 01:59:34.920 --> 01:59:38.920 vers Surgical and Medical ob City Care and Expertise called 2332 01:59:38.960 --> 01:59:41.199 five one three nine three nine two two sixty three. 2333 01:59:41.520 --> 01:59:44.239 That's nine three nine twenty two sixty three. 2334 01:59:44.279 --> 01:59:46.840 They cleared the recks on seventy five, both the two 2335 01:59:46.880 --> 01:59:50.560 seventy five and earl Linger and above Monroe. Traffic starting 2336 01:59:50.600 --> 01:59:53.479 to get better in both set. Fan seventy five slows 2337 01:59:53.600 --> 01:59:55.840 just a bit out of Wachman towards the lateral. 2338 01:59:56.119 --> 02:00:03.720 Chuck Ingram and fifty five krc BE talk station say 2339 02:00:03.720 --> 02:00:06.439 twenty nine fifty buck here see the talk station. Happy 2340 02:00:06.439 --> 02:00:09.800 to look up and see in studio Rabbi Ari June. 2341 02:00:09.800 --> 02:00:11.720 He's been here before to talk about some other topics, 2342 02:00:11.720 --> 02:00:13.520 and good to see Rabbi, welcome back. Thank you. 2343 02:00:13.520 --> 02:00:14.319 It's nice to be here. 2344 02:00:14.399 --> 02:00:18.319 It's just always a pleasure engaging in the elevated conversation 2345 02:00:18.399 --> 02:00:19.960 with you. Have a tremendous amount of respect for you. 2346 02:00:20.039 --> 02:00:22.960 What you do remind my listeners your position in the 2347 02:00:22.960 --> 02:00:25.880 community and why it would be you here discussing this matter, 2348 02:00:25.920 --> 02:00:28.520 why you would comment about the Robling suspension bridge, which 2349 02:00:28.520 --> 02:00:29.399 we'll get to in a moment. 2350 02:00:29.600 --> 02:00:33.000 Absolutely so. I'm a rabbi in Cincinnati. I'm the senior 2351 02:00:33.039 --> 02:00:36.920 rabbi of Temple Sholem, and I've been active in issues 2352 02:00:36.920 --> 02:00:40.119 in this community. For gosh, I'm not a real native Cincinnati, 2353 02:00:40.159 --> 02:00:44.239 but I've been here about fifteen years now, and there's 2354 02:00:44.279 --> 02:00:47.640 been this whole situation going on over the last few 2355 02:00:47.680 --> 02:00:53.560 weeks that started with the detention of any mom I'm 2356 02:00:53.600 --> 02:00:58.279 in Solomon on some immigration related issues and has sort 2357 02:00:58.319 --> 02:01:00.840 of taken on a life of its own, including this 2358 02:01:00.920 --> 02:01:02.560 protest over at the Ropeling Bridge. 2359 02:01:02.800 --> 02:01:06.199 Right now, I understand that people might protest ice detention 2360 02:01:06.319 --> 02:01:11.760 of Aiman Solomon. We're engaged in multiple protests about immigration 2361 02:01:11.840 --> 02:01:14.119 enforcement across this country. It's one of the biggest topics 2362 02:01:14.159 --> 02:01:18.600 out there politically speaking. Your perception of the detention of 2363 02:01:18.720 --> 02:01:23.079 i'man I'm in Solomon initially, where are you? Are you 2364 02:01:23.159 --> 02:01:25.680 defending him? Do you think it was an appropriate detention 2365 02:01:25.840 --> 02:01:28.439 before we get to what actually unfolded on the bridge 2366 02:01:28.439 --> 02:01:29.479 as a consequence of the. 2367 02:01:29.399 --> 02:01:32.399 Protest, Absolutely, you know, I will to cheat ahead a 2368 02:01:32.439 --> 02:01:33.960 little bit. One of the things I think is really 2369 02:01:34.039 --> 02:01:36.359 unfortunate about this protest at the Ropeling Bridge is it 2370 02:01:36.439 --> 02:01:39.760 draws attention away from the actual issue, which is you know, 2371 02:01:39.880 --> 02:01:43.239 this question about this particular detention of imm Solomon and 2372 02:01:43.319 --> 02:01:47.159 immigration issues broadly. But so I'll pull back from that, right. 2373 02:01:47.199 --> 02:01:49.439 We're definitely going to get to that, oh, I know, 2374 02:01:49.680 --> 02:01:51.600 but to bring the attention to where I think it 2375 02:01:51.640 --> 02:01:55.239 should be. You know, I Mom Solomon. We can only 2376 02:01:55.279 --> 02:01:58.840 really speak with confidence I think here about who he 2377 02:01:58.840 --> 02:02:01.479 has been as a member of our local community. You know, 2378 02:02:01.479 --> 02:02:04.000 he's been in Cincinnati for years now, been working as 2379 02:02:04.359 --> 02:02:08.439 a chaplain at Cincinnati Children's Hospital and in our community, 2380 02:02:08.520 --> 02:02:10.359 which is what we can speak with confidence about. He's 2381 02:02:10.359 --> 02:02:13.960 been a model member of Cincinnati. You know, he's the 2382 02:02:14.039 --> 02:02:16.199 kind of guy who's shown up in the nick you 2383 02:02:16.399 --> 02:02:20.039 and working with parents who are in dire situations with 2384 02:02:20.159 --> 02:02:23.880 children or suffering. He has been to any member of 2385 02:02:23.880 --> 02:02:27.880 the Jewish community, a real ally that's good, showed up 2386 02:02:27.960 --> 02:02:33.880 at vigils to support Jews after October seventh, has you know, 2387 02:02:34.000 --> 02:02:37.159 been there with rabbis and Cincinnati who run the whole 2388 02:02:37.159 --> 02:02:40.640 spectrum from you know, from Reform to Orthodox and been 2389 02:02:40.680 --> 02:02:43.279 a real friend and partner. Doesn't mean we agree on everything. 2390 02:02:43.279 --> 02:02:46.439 We don't agree on everything, but that's you know, that's 2391 02:02:46.560 --> 02:02:48.520 part of living in a pluralistic society is you can 2392 02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:50.600 make friends with people with whom you have disagreements. 2393 02:02:50.960 --> 02:02:54.960 So the I'm and obviously obviously not a Jewish person. 2394 02:02:55.600 --> 02:02:57.640 He's not a river to the Sea kind of advocate. 2395 02:02:58.079 --> 02:03:01.119 I think he's probably a critic of Israe in many regards, 2396 02:03:01.319 --> 02:03:03.359 and there are Jews who make the same sort of 2397 02:03:03.359 --> 02:03:04.600 criticism that he makes. 2398 02:03:04.800 --> 02:03:07.039 Well, I have a lot of Jewish friends who also 2399 02:03:07.159 --> 02:03:08.319 will make the same pass. 2400 02:03:08.439 --> 02:03:10.760 It's okay to do that. But no, he's not the 2401 02:03:10.840 --> 02:03:12.760 kind of person who's looking to wipe out all the 2402 02:03:12.840 --> 02:03:15.159 Jews who live in Israel. One of the interesting thing 2403 02:03:15.199 --> 02:03:17.920 about things about his case is that he has pushed 2404 02:03:18.000 --> 02:03:21.399 against people trying to connect his particular situation right now, 2405 02:03:21.439 --> 02:03:24.840 his detention and his immigration issues. He doesn't want that 2406 02:03:24.880 --> 02:03:27.720 connected to the Israel Palestine debate. He's been pretty clear 2407 02:03:27.760 --> 02:03:28.239 about that. 2408 02:03:28.359 --> 02:03:29.119 Well, it shouldn't be. 2409 02:03:29.359 --> 02:03:31.760 Well, no, he's not Palestinian. First of all, he is 2410 02:03:31.800 --> 02:03:38.279 an Egyptian citizen who's been here on asylum. He, like 2411 02:03:38.399 --> 02:03:42.720 many members of our global Muslim community, has a connection 2412 02:03:42.800 --> 02:03:46.439 to the Palestinian community because they consider that, you know, 2413 02:03:46.520 --> 02:03:50.159 part of their people, so to speak. But he sees 2414 02:03:50.199 --> 02:03:52.800 a difference between some of these things. And yeah, he's 2415 02:03:52.800 --> 02:03:54.159 not a River to the Sea kind of guy. 2416 02:03:54.279 --> 02:03:59.199 Yeah, your point is, I think too many people and 2417 02:03:59.359 --> 02:04:02.239 I catch myself if I find myself painting with too 2418 02:04:02.279 --> 02:04:04.920 broad a brush, as they say, I'll call myself out 2419 02:04:04.960 --> 02:04:06.680 on I wait a second, maybe I was paint with 2420 02:04:06.720 --> 02:04:09.760 too broad a brush. Because you happen to be Muslim 2421 02:04:09.800 --> 02:04:13.640 doesn't mean you hold a particular ideological perspective as it 2422 02:04:13.680 --> 02:04:16.520 relates to the existence of Israel, or the eradication of Israel, 2423 02:04:16.600 --> 02:04:18.680 or how you feel about the Jewish people. Generally speaking, 2424 02:04:19.399 --> 02:04:22.399 the world's filled with opinions, and within the Muslim community 2425 02:04:22.399 --> 02:04:24.279 there are many varied opinions, much in the same way 2426 02:04:24.319 --> 02:04:26.199 you just pointed out there are many varied opinions within 2427 02:04:26.239 --> 02:04:27.239 the Jewish community. 2428 02:04:28.119 --> 02:04:31.840 Absolutely, and I there's something that strange that sometimes goes 2429 02:04:31.840 --> 02:04:36.119 on which concerns me, which is sometimes there's this if 2430 02:04:36.159 --> 02:04:40.399 you're Muslim, you're presumed guilty of anti Semitism until proven otherwise. 2431 02:04:40.520 --> 02:04:42.279 Yes, and God, I hate it. 2432 02:04:44.159 --> 02:04:46.159 I think it's probably clear to those who know me 2433 02:04:46.760 --> 02:04:49.840 that I've dealt with plenty of issues of antisemitism personally 2434 02:04:49.880 --> 02:04:54.479 and professionally in my life. I am defensive against anti Semitism. Yes, 2435 02:04:54.520 --> 02:04:56.600 it does not mean that every person who's Muslim is 2436 02:04:56.600 --> 02:04:58.880 anti Semitic. It doesn't mean every critic of Israel is 2437 02:04:58.880 --> 02:05:01.680 anti Semitic. And I mom, Solomon certainly is not an 2438 02:05:01.720 --> 02:05:02.479 anti Semite. 2439 02:05:03.199 --> 02:05:05.520 All right, Well pause right now because we're gonna take 2440 02:05:05.520 --> 02:05:09.319 a break. But I'm wondering what is the connection, because 2441 02:05:09.960 --> 02:05:15.760 Rabbi I do not understand anti Semitism. To me, it's 2442 02:05:15.800 --> 02:05:18.800 like racism. Why would you hate someone merely because of 2443 02:05:18.880 --> 02:05:22.039 who they are the race of Jewish people? You just 2444 02:05:22.119 --> 02:05:24.439 immediately think they're all bad and evil and they're worthy 2445 02:05:24.479 --> 02:05:27.560 of some sort of form of hatred that's anti Semitism. 2446 02:05:27.760 --> 02:05:31.239 Is there a direct correlation between this, this concept of 2447 02:05:31.239 --> 02:05:33.640 anti Semitism, which I perceive to be the hatred or 2448 02:05:33.680 --> 02:05:39.319 the antagonism or evil toward Jewish people generally speaking, or 2449 02:05:39.399 --> 02:05:42.039 is it based upon the existence and creation of the 2450 02:05:42.039 --> 02:05:44.840 State of Israel. Let's just delve on that A little 2451 02:05:44.880 --> 02:05:47.840 good bridge to the bridge should perfect. I'm glad you 2452 02:05:48.720 --> 02:05:50.520 perceive it to be that way. It's a thirty five 2453 02:05:50.720 --> 02:05:52.960 Rabbi Ari John in the studio will continue after these 2454 02:05:52.960 --> 02:05:53.520 brief words. 2455 02:05:53.600 --> 02:05:56.880 This is fifty five KARC and iHeartRadio station. 2456 02:05:57.359 --> 02:06:00.399 It's Summertari jun in studio, trying to unpack the problems 2457 02:06:00.399 --> 02:06:02.960 of the world. We were talking about anti Semitism generally speaking. 2458 02:06:03.000 --> 02:06:06.880 Of course, this on the heels of i'mm Aiman Solomon's 2459 02:06:07.079 --> 02:06:10.960 detention by Ice. Obviously a well respected man in the community. 2460 02:06:11.000 --> 02:06:13.600 You mentioned some of his attributes. He's very helpful, he's 2461 02:06:13.640 --> 02:06:16.279 a bridge crosser, he reaches across the aisle, works well 2462 02:06:16.319 --> 02:06:18.880 with the Jewish community and other communities. Has done some 2463 02:06:18.920 --> 02:06:21.159 great work. So before we get to his trials and tribulations, 2464 02:06:21.479 --> 02:06:26.680 addressing my question mark, because as I say that, I 2465 02:06:26.840 --> 02:06:30.239 don't understand the hatred of a person for merely being 2466 02:06:30.359 --> 02:06:33.000 of a particular race, and so I can't hate you 2467 02:06:33.079 --> 02:06:35.239 for being a Jew, just in and of itself. There 2468 02:06:35.239 --> 02:06:37.000 are people out in the world who hate black people 2469 02:06:37.079 --> 02:06:39.319 just because they're black. That makes no sense to me either. 2470 02:06:39.680 --> 02:06:41.760 You know, I'm like a you know, I never met 2471 02:06:41.760 --> 02:06:43.720 a man I didn't like kind of guy, which is 2472 02:06:43.800 --> 02:06:45.680 sort of you got to take the time to know 2473 02:06:45.800 --> 02:06:48.600 somebody before you're allowed to draw conclusions. And because all 2474 02:06:48.680 --> 02:06:53.239 these different people exist across broad political sUAS within any 2475 02:06:53.239 --> 02:06:55.760 given community, I can't draw a conclusion. It wouldn't be 2476 02:06:55.800 --> 02:06:57.680 fair for me to do so. But I'm kind of 2477 02:06:57.680 --> 02:07:01.359 curious to know if this concept of anti Semitism has 2478 02:07:01.399 --> 02:07:04.560 more of a connection with the creation of Israel as 2479 02:07:04.600 --> 02:07:08.039 a state, in the displacement of the Palestinian people or 2480 02:07:08.079 --> 02:07:10.319 anybody else that got this place when Israel was created 2481 02:07:10.359 --> 02:07:13.760 in what nineteen four or nineteen forty seven. So do 2482 02:07:13.800 --> 02:07:15.520 you see that as being a sort of a blurred 2483 02:07:15.600 --> 02:07:17.199 line or maybe a problematic area. 2484 02:07:17.359 --> 02:07:20.800 There's an intersection, no question. Look, anti Semitism has been 2485 02:07:20.840 --> 02:07:23.960 around for literally thousands of years. People call it the 2486 02:07:24.000 --> 02:07:28.159 oldest form of hate. You know, in our Western context, 2487 02:07:28.199 --> 02:07:30.039 a lot of people think of the Holocaust as being 2488 02:07:30.079 --> 02:07:33.640 like the start of antisemitism or something anything. But I mean, 2489 02:07:33.840 --> 02:07:36.399 there have been thousands and thousands of years of people 2490 02:07:36.479 --> 02:07:40.399 attacking Jews because of their identity. And what's unique about 2491 02:07:40.399 --> 02:07:42.640 anti Semitism, a form of hate, is that it tends 2492 02:07:42.680 --> 02:07:48.039 to mutate throughout history. So generally speaking, in history, people 2493 02:07:48.079 --> 02:07:52.199 will target Jews for whatever the perceived gravest evil of 2494 02:07:52.239 --> 02:07:54.359 the time is. So, if capitalism is bad, Jews or 2495 02:07:54.399 --> 02:07:58.279 the capitalists. If communism's bad, Jews are the communists? You 2496 02:07:58.359 --> 02:08:01.119 name it. So in the present day, when you know 2497 02:08:01.319 --> 02:08:05.359 ethnic nationalism trends are perceived as evil, Jews must be 2498 02:08:05.479 --> 02:08:10.960 the colonialist, nationalist, whatever group that's most evil in the world. 2499 02:08:11.239 --> 02:08:15.079 So Israel's connected to it, no question. But Israel's more 2500 02:08:15.079 --> 02:08:17.239 of an excuse than the impetus. 2501 02:08:17.039 --> 02:08:19.399 Right because it has been around for a long time. 2502 02:08:19.479 --> 02:08:22.760 Let's face it, the Holocaust came about as a consequence 2503 02:08:22.840 --> 02:08:26.000 of Jews getting the blame for the poor economic conditions 2504 02:08:26.000 --> 02:08:29.439 in Germany. That was an extension of the thousand plus 2505 02:08:29.520 --> 02:08:32.760 years of Jews being blamed for any other economic calamity 2506 02:08:32.840 --> 02:08:34.600 or any other problem in the world. How is it 2507 02:08:34.640 --> 02:08:36.720 they became a target. How is it that that was 2508 02:08:36.760 --> 02:08:39.920 a default group? Is it because of the you represent 2509 02:08:40.000 --> 02:08:43.600 a minority status in the world in terms of global population. 2510 02:08:44.199 --> 02:08:46.359 So the minority status thing is a huge part of it. 2511 02:08:46.399 --> 02:08:49.640 I think also, Jews have, in different societies for the 2512 02:08:49.720 --> 02:08:52.960 last two thousand years, been a minority who was a 2513 02:08:52.960 --> 02:08:56.520 homeless group, so to speak. Right until the creation of Israel, 2514 02:08:56.560 --> 02:09:01.319 from you know, the year seventy ce nil nineteen forty eight, 2515 02:09:02.000 --> 02:09:05.960 Jews were existing independently of their own homeland, moving from 2516 02:09:06.000 --> 02:09:08.560 place to place as a tiny minority, pretty easy to 2517 02:09:08.600 --> 02:09:11.680 pick off and scapegoat and target. You layer on top 2518 02:09:11.720 --> 02:09:15.560 of that religious differences intentions that existed between Christianity and 2519 02:09:15.720 --> 02:09:19.239 Islam and Judaism, and you've got the recipe for all 2520 02:09:19.239 --> 02:09:20.560 sorts of disaster well. 2521 02:09:20.600 --> 02:09:23.479 And in that context, you know, people who of like 2522 02:09:23.600 --> 02:09:26.840 minds tend to dwell together. I mean, it makes perfect sense. 2523 02:09:26.880 --> 02:09:29.000 If you're of the same religion, you're the same race, 2524 02:09:29.479 --> 02:09:31.640 and you don't have a land that you can call 2525 02:09:31.680 --> 02:09:33.920 your own, you're going to congregate in your own community 2526 02:09:33.920 --> 02:09:37.359 in any given country. That just makes perfect sense. But 2527 02:09:37.359 --> 02:09:40.600 you've also proven to be demonstrably successful. And I mean 2528 02:09:40.640 --> 02:09:43.520 I know from my discussions with my Jewish friends and 2529 02:09:43.560 --> 02:09:46.640 correct me if I'm wrong. You look out for each other. 2530 02:09:47.000 --> 02:09:50.079 You're part of that family of Jewish people, you help 2531 02:09:50.119 --> 02:09:53.319 each other in business perspectives, you elevate your fellow jew 2532 02:09:53.359 --> 02:09:57.800 And I mean, and because it is I suppose a 2533 02:09:57.880 --> 02:10:01.079 race predicated thing. There are people who are not of 2534 02:10:01.119 --> 02:10:04.560 the Jewish race Sammy Davis Junior, who can become Jews 2535 02:10:04.600 --> 02:10:07.319 by way of religion. It's a very difficult road to hoe. 2536 02:10:07.800 --> 02:10:11.039 But there's the sense of the race being a component 2537 02:10:11.119 --> 02:10:13.199 of being part of the Jewish faith as well, is 2538 02:10:13.239 --> 02:10:13.520 there not? 2539 02:10:13.840 --> 02:10:16.520 Absolutely so? The technical word for it is it's an 2540 02:10:16.520 --> 02:10:20.279 ethno religious group. It's that combination of ethnicity and religion. 2541 02:10:20.760 --> 02:10:22.880 And we do as a Jewish people, we try to 2542 02:10:22.880 --> 02:10:25.079 take care of one another. Yeah, I mean, I don't 2543 02:10:25.119 --> 02:10:27.359 only care about Jewish people. I know a lot of 2544 02:10:27.520 --> 02:10:32.199 people beyond the community. But but yeah, you take care 2545 02:10:32.239 --> 02:10:35.119 of your family. That's that's a value in our community. 2546 02:10:35.520 --> 02:10:38.439 And that's been used against us, of course also at 2547 02:10:38.479 --> 02:10:40.880 plenty of times that because we take care of ourselves, 2548 02:10:40.960 --> 02:10:42.279 there must be something wrong with that. 2549 02:10:42.880 --> 02:10:47.279 Well, and the insular sort of perception of that is, oh, 2550 02:10:47.319 --> 02:10:49.000 look at that. You know, they're not letting Themboddy in. 2551 02:10:49.680 --> 02:10:51.439 You know, I want to slice of that action. Well, 2552 02:10:51.520 --> 02:10:54.119 you know, it's it's not that easy. Of a challenge 2553 02:10:54.159 --> 02:10:56.399 to overcome. Yes, you can become a member of the 2554 02:10:56.479 --> 02:11:00.319 Jewish faith, but I can't become a black person just 2555 02:11:00.359 --> 02:11:03.279 I mean because of by virtue of who I am 2556 02:11:03.319 --> 02:11:05.159 and where I was born and where I came from. 2557 02:11:05.560 --> 02:11:07.239 No, I mean, there's something, like I said, a little 2558 02:11:07.239 --> 02:11:11.039 bit unique about that Jewish identity that you can become 2559 02:11:11.119 --> 02:11:14.119 Jewish even if you're not originally part of the ethnic group, 2560 02:11:14.159 --> 02:11:14.520 so to. 2561 02:11:14.439 --> 02:11:17.000 Speak, I identify as a Jew. 2562 02:11:17.079 --> 02:11:18.520 How's that I'll take it. 2563 02:11:18.840 --> 02:11:21.079 Rabbi Jim, We're gonna pause, take a minute early break, 2564 02:11:21.079 --> 02:11:23.560 because we're gonna dive on into what the how the 2565 02:11:23.600 --> 02:11:28.920 situation unfolded and the Rabbi's comments about the tragic nature 2566 02:11:29.000 --> 02:11:31.359 of how it unfolded, because it did take away from 2567 02:11:31.399 --> 02:11:33.720 the focus of the protests, which was the treatment of 2568 02:11:34.039 --> 02:11:37.279 I'm Aiman Solomon. One more time with Rabbi ri Jun 2569 02:11:37.439 --> 02:11:38.319 Stick around. 2570 02:11:38.359 --> 02:11:40.359 Fifty five KRC dot com. 2571 02:11:42.239 --> 02:11:43.760 One more time for the Channel nine first forty one 2572 02:11:43.760 --> 02:11:46.399 to forecasts Heat Advisor in EFFECTIOT eight today because it's 2573 02:11:46.399 --> 02:11:48.079 going to be hot ninety two with the heat index 2574 02:11:48.159 --> 02:11:51.199 of low hundreds and some storms maybe after noon today, 2575 02:11:51.479 --> 02:11:54.239 over night, muggy, partly cloudy, low of seventy six. Tomorrow 2576 02:11:54.279 --> 02:11:56.479 partly cloudy, hot, humid ninety four and a low one 2577 02:11:56.520 --> 02:11:59.520 hundred heat index. Muggy and partly cloudy every night low 2578 02:11:59.520 --> 02:12:03.079 of seventy four and another cloudy Scattered showers and thunderstorms 2579 02:12:03.119 --> 02:12:05.800 possible on Wednesday, but another heat day ninety two for 2580 02:12:05.840 --> 02:12:08.119 a high closed it out at seventy seven times for 2581 02:12:08.159 --> 02:12:11.399 final traffic. Chuck from the ucup Tramphic Center. 2582 02:12:11.520 --> 02:12:14.479 UC Health Weight Loss Center offers Sergeic com Medico a 2583 02:12:14.560 --> 02:12:17.560 b CD care and expertise called five month three nine 2584 02:12:17.600 --> 02:12:20.159 two sixty three nine twenty. 2585 02:12:19.920 --> 02:12:20.920 Two sixty three. 2586 02:12:21.319 --> 02:12:24.119 CRUs just cleared an accident out of the way eastbound 2587 02:12:24.159 --> 02:12:27.680 Fort Washington Way. All lanes were blocked just a bit ago. 2588 02:12:28.119 --> 02:12:30.840 Now you can make the ramp to Columbia Parkway and 2589 02:12:31.079 --> 02:12:34.880 southbound four seventy one southbound seventy five Slow's just a 2590 02:12:34.880 --> 02:12:37.199 bit out of block one. Chuck Ingram on fifty five 2591 02:12:37.279 --> 02:12:38.960 KRC the talk station. 2592 02:12:39.920 --> 02:12:42.119 Hey forty seven, Come up any forty eight fifty five 2593 02:12:42.159 --> 02:12:44.439 KRC DE Talk station Braving Bryan Thomas here with Rabbi 2594 02:12:44.520 --> 02:12:46.760 Ri John. He wrote an op ed piece in the 2595 02:12:46.800 --> 02:12:50.840 Cincinna Inquired the other day. UH robling Bridge protest turned violent, 2596 02:12:50.920 --> 02:12:54.439 overshadowed cause. Rabbit and I already talked about the cause, 2597 02:12:54.439 --> 02:12:59.359 which was the iced detention of local imum Aimon Solimon 2598 02:12:59.560 --> 02:13:02.079 by all counts, you know, the i've seen you great 2599 02:13:02.119 --> 02:13:05.399 citizen benefit to the community of the bridge builder, et cetera. 2600 02:13:06.399 --> 02:13:11.079 But things went awry at the protests. The bridge was 2601 02:13:11.119 --> 02:13:13.880 taken over and closed down, which then resulted in the 2602 02:13:13.880 --> 02:13:15.960 police apartment showing up. Brab Ai, Your take on that, 2603 02:13:16.199 --> 02:13:19.279 because that's all I remember. If you'd ask me before 2604 02:13:19.279 --> 02:13:22.720 our conversation today what the Roblin Bridge shutdown was all about, 2605 02:13:22.800 --> 02:13:23.920 I wouldn't have been able to remember. 2606 02:13:24.079 --> 02:13:24.239 No. 2607 02:13:24.319 --> 02:13:26.720 I mean, people don't have any clue what the cause is. 2608 02:13:27.079 --> 02:13:33.680 It's the spectacle. This was so predictable of a bad situation. 2609 02:13:33.800 --> 02:13:36.479 That's part of what frustrates me about it, which is 2610 02:13:36.520 --> 02:13:39.760 that I you know, there were rumblings early on that 2611 02:13:40.079 --> 02:13:42.359 the goal here was to block the bridge. I think 2612 02:13:42.439 --> 02:13:45.640 was the exact phrase folks were using. And I did 2613 02:13:45.640 --> 02:13:48.000 a little bit of digging on my own to try 2614 02:13:48.039 --> 02:13:50.960 to see has anyone pulled a permit as this sanction? 2615 02:13:51.079 --> 02:13:55.119 What's the plan here? And I wasn't able to find 2616 02:13:55.159 --> 02:13:58.359 any any evidence one way or another, and that to 2617 02:13:58.359 --> 02:14:00.760 me was a red flag enough that but I came 2618 02:14:00.800 --> 02:14:05.039 to the vigil where faith leaders had gathered before the 2619 02:14:05.079 --> 02:14:07.680 folks walked onto the bridge, and I decided I wasn't 2620 02:14:07.680 --> 02:14:08.880 going on the bridge myself. 2621 02:14:09.600 --> 02:14:11.159 I kind of expect that of you, knowing you as 2622 02:14:11.199 --> 02:14:13.039 I do, I try to be reasonable. 2623 02:14:14.359 --> 02:14:16.560 But look, even before people got onto the bridge, it 2624 02:14:16.600 --> 02:14:20.279 was already a mess. You know, you had people who 2625 02:14:20.319 --> 02:14:23.399 had been organizing, who are wearing high vis vests and 2626 02:14:23.439 --> 02:14:27.000 blocking traffic and things like that, no police to be seen. 2627 02:14:27.600 --> 02:14:30.359 So these were just you know, the burrier's entry was 2628 02:14:30.399 --> 02:14:33.840 who can afford a high vis? Vest on Amazon? And 2629 02:14:34.159 --> 02:14:37.760 it's a recipe for disaster. One of the things about 2630 02:14:37.760 --> 02:14:40.479 this that I think makes it pretty striking is that, 2631 02:14:41.000 --> 02:14:45.800 you know, some situations, everyone messed up. And actually, I'll 2632 02:14:45.960 --> 02:14:49.720 leave one group out. CINCINNATIPD did a fabulous job of managing, 2633 02:14:50.039 --> 02:14:52.760 you know, trying to restore traffic and you know, stop 2634 02:14:52.800 --> 02:14:55.439 people from blocking a bridge, which is an act of 2635 02:14:55.439 --> 02:14:57.520 civil disobedience and they have a right to try to 2636 02:14:57.520 --> 02:15:04.399 stop and and dealing with the protesters effectively. But the 2637 02:15:04.439 --> 02:15:11.319 conflict between Covington PD and the protesters was awful. One 2638 02:15:11.359 --> 02:15:14.279 of those officers from Covington PD has been placed on leave, 2639 02:15:14.319 --> 02:15:17.720 I believe since because of the concerns about what came out. 2640 02:15:17.800 --> 02:15:21.680 And as someone who was there when people started coming 2641 02:15:21.680 --> 02:15:24.199 off of the bridge, I had a fellow clergy member 2642 02:15:24.279 --> 02:15:28.319 who got back after being in the midst of all 2643 02:15:28.359 --> 02:15:30.600 of the conflict, and he didn't know what was about 2644 02:15:30.640 --> 02:15:32.359 to happen. He had been suckered into it, like a 2645 02:15:32.399 --> 02:15:34.600 lot of people had been kind of co opted who 2646 02:15:34.800 --> 02:15:37.399 just thought they were there to demonstrate properly. They figured, 2647 02:15:37.640 --> 02:15:40.199 you know, permits had been polled or whatever planning was 2648 02:15:40.239 --> 02:15:44.079 supposed to have happened had happened. So my clergy friend, 2649 02:15:44.079 --> 02:15:46.319 who you know's wearing his Roman collar and everything. So 2650 02:15:46.359 --> 02:15:48.960 the police didn't do anything to him, but he showed 2651 02:15:49.000 --> 02:15:50.760 me a video right after the fact that he took 2652 02:15:50.760 --> 02:15:54.359 on his phone and I was I was appalled by 2653 02:15:54.359 --> 02:15:57.680 what I saw. Meanwhile, you know, the people trying to 2654 02:15:57.680 --> 02:16:02.479 block the bridge, it's responsible, it's reckless to pull people 2655 02:16:02.520 --> 02:16:04.720 into a cause that they don't understand fully and they 2656 02:16:04.720 --> 02:16:07.319 don't know the risks of you got to give people 2657 02:16:07.399 --> 02:16:10.079 the you know, the information to consent to that kind 2658 02:16:10.079 --> 02:16:11.600 of thing you're engage. 2659 02:16:11.680 --> 02:16:14.399 Yeah, it's almost an incitement to mob violence. You know, 2660 02:16:14.520 --> 02:16:17.640 most people went there to do a peaceful protest. The vigil, 2661 02:16:17.760 --> 02:16:20.520 they supported this IMOM. That was the only message they 2662 02:16:20.520 --> 02:16:24.079 wanted to get across. Then when you invade the bridge space, 2663 02:16:24.199 --> 02:16:27.279 you take over the bridge, you block traffic, obviously engaging 2664 02:16:27.319 --> 02:16:31.680 in a crime. But I would it sounds to me 2665 02:16:32.000 --> 02:16:39.120 like the protest was invaded. And I've seen these organized agitators. 2666 02:16:39.159 --> 02:16:41.559 I mean they're all over in every instance. You know, 2667 02:16:41.559 --> 02:16:44.719 they're all dressed the same. Sometimes they're funded by outside organizations. 2668 02:16:45.079 --> 02:16:48.120 But it's as if and perhaps the motive is to 2669 02:16:48.200 --> 02:16:52.239 invite police over reaction. That's the image they want to 2670 02:16:52.239 --> 02:16:53.959 show and project to the rest of the world. Has 2671 02:16:54.000 --> 02:16:55.760 nothing to do with the condition of the IMOM, has 2672 02:16:55.760 --> 02:16:58.280 everything to do with the police. And look at the 2673 02:16:58.280 --> 02:17:02.120 brutality that has been on unleashed, that's the visual moment 2674 02:17:02.159 --> 02:17:02.559 they want. 2675 02:17:02.719 --> 02:17:04.760 I think that there is a good chance of that 2676 02:17:04.760 --> 02:17:07.280 that they were looking for the escalation, And like I said, 2677 02:17:07.399 --> 02:17:10.840 both groups probably are responsible here. Covington PD probably could 2678 02:17:10.840 --> 02:17:13.680 have handled this without as much escalation as occurred, and 2679 02:17:13.760 --> 02:17:17.719 the protesters weren't upset to have escalation. I mean, I 2680 02:17:17.760 --> 02:17:19.440 doubt they wanted to be injured in the way that 2681 02:17:19.479 --> 02:17:22.399 they were injured. They probably didn't enjoy it, but they 2682 02:17:22.440 --> 02:17:25.000 got the you know, they got the social media videos 2683 02:17:25.000 --> 02:17:27.040 that they probably were looking to create out of it. 2684 02:17:27.399 --> 02:17:31.479 So who loses all of the reasonable people who want 2685 02:17:31.520 --> 02:17:35.879 to see attention brought to a case that matters. Look, 2686 02:17:36.000 --> 02:17:40.000 I'm not opposed to civil disobedience within the right parameters. 2687 02:17:40.239 --> 02:17:43.079 You can choose to shut down a bridge, but their 2688 02:17:43.120 --> 02:17:45.879 consequences that are going to happen, and people need to 2689 02:17:45.920 --> 02:17:47.959 know what the consequences they've signed up for are. 2690 02:17:48.280 --> 02:17:50.000 But if they want to shut the bridge down, they 2691 02:17:50.040 --> 02:17:53.760 have to understand that that is going to invite perhaps 2692 02:17:53.760 --> 02:17:57.600 a reaction they don't want. This is no longer about 2693 02:17:57.600 --> 02:18:01.959 discussing the issues and ICE's tree of the Imom. It's 2694 02:18:01.959 --> 02:18:04.719 about people reacting to the bridge being shut down. So 2695 02:18:04.760 --> 02:18:07.920 you might have some otherwise sympathetic people to your message, 2696 02:18:08.200 --> 02:18:10.319 but then we all get pissed off when roads are 2697 02:18:10.319 --> 02:18:12.200 shut down and the traffic's backed up, and we hear 2698 02:18:12.239 --> 02:18:14.520 about the EMS vehicle who couldn't get through with the 2699 02:18:14.600 --> 02:18:17.680 you know, the the close to death injured victim, and 2700 02:18:17.719 --> 02:18:19.040 all these horror stories come out. 2701 02:18:19.079 --> 02:18:21.120 No, I think you use the word infiltrators. And you 2702 02:18:21.159 --> 02:18:23.399 have these these bad actors. They try to take over 2703 02:18:23.520 --> 02:18:27.600 other causes and they turn people off. Yes, and I 2704 02:18:27.680 --> 02:18:29.280 have no patience for it. I don't think any of 2705 02:18:29.360 --> 02:18:31.959 us should have patients for people who try to take 2706 02:18:32.000 --> 02:18:34.600 what should be a peaceful setting and turn it into 2707 02:18:34.639 --> 02:18:36.840 a side shit of good attention for their own thing. 2708 02:18:37.200 --> 02:18:39.479 Yeah, and I really do believe that's what's going on, 2709 02:18:39.719 --> 02:18:43.159 and it's a widespread reality. And let's face it ain't 2710 02:18:43.200 --> 02:18:46.600 nothing like social media to bring that reality up very easily. 2711 02:18:46.680 --> 02:18:49.040 You put en us posts out there, somebody's going to 2712 02:18:49.120 --> 02:18:50.120 show up right. 2713 02:18:49.959 --> 02:18:52.040 One hundred percent. And this is an example of that. 2714 02:18:52.319 --> 02:18:54.360 Red by Ari John. It is such a pleasure having 2715 02:18:54.399 --> 02:18:56.000 you in studio to talk about this, and you know, 2716 02:18:56.200 --> 02:18:58.120 I mean it's a message for all groups out there. 2717 02:18:58.120 --> 02:19:00.200 If you're going to organize some activities, you need to 2718 02:19:00.239 --> 02:19:03.040 be painfully aware that you might have some of these 2719 02:19:03.079 --> 02:19:06.840 outside agitators come in and ruin the point of your message. 2720 02:19:06.879 --> 02:19:09.520 You need to be calm, cool and collected and don't 2721 02:19:09.879 --> 02:19:13.079 follow the quote unquote heard into the street if that's 2722 02:19:13.120 --> 02:19:15.159 not what you're about. If you want to engage in 2723 02:19:15.159 --> 02:19:18.000 that type of protest, recognize there are going to be consequences, 2724 02:19:18.000 --> 02:19:20.559 but in the final analysis, it's probably not going to 2725 02:19:20.600 --> 02:19:21.520 do your message any good. 2726 02:19:21.639 --> 02:19:23.399 Eyes on the price. You got to do what you've 2727 02:19:23.399 --> 02:19:25.639 said out to do strategically. In this case, it's bringing 2728 02:19:25.680 --> 02:19:28.760 attention to this mom and the detention that he's facing. 2729 02:19:29.040 --> 02:19:31.079 Rabbi, always a pleasure to see you and talk to you, 2730 02:19:31.120 --> 02:19:32.639 and I hope to have you in and again on 2731 02:19:32.680 --> 02:19:34.719 maybe perhaps some other topics. I know there's luck going 2732 02:19:34.760 --> 02:19:36.079 on in the world that you're involved with, and you 2733 02:19:36.120 --> 02:19:37.840 always have a spot here. On the fifty five Cassee 2734 02:19:37.959 --> 02:19:41.200 Morning Show this morning, Ken Cober, FLP President on the 2735 02:19:41.280 --> 02:19:44.319 violence downtown over the weekend, tragic and awful. That was 2736 02:19:45.399 --> 02:19:49.200 Christopher Smith Aman on the same topic. Boy, he was 2737 02:19:49.239 --> 02:19:51.520 on a tear this morning for the Smith event Money 2738 02:19:51.520 --> 02:19:53.639 Money with Brian James. And of course my conversation just 2739 02:19:53.680 --> 02:19:56.479 now with Rabbi Ari Jen podcast fifty five Carsee dot Com, 2740 02:19:56.520 --> 02:19:59.600 Get Your iHeartMedia app Bright Bart Inside Scoop tomorrow at 2741 02:20:00.079 --> 02:20:02.159 I followed by the Daniel Davis Deep Dive on the 2742 02:20:02.159 --> 02:20:04.559 heels of my appearing on the Daniel Davis Deep Dive 2743 02:20:04.680 --> 02:20:08.319 last week. Rather interesting reaction given some of my comments 2744 02:20:08.760 --> 02:20:11.639 you got alienated a few of Daniel Davis's friends, but 2745 02:20:11.799 --> 02:20:15.600 we'll talk about that tomorrow. Thank you, Joe Strecker, Executive producer, 2746 02:20:15.639 --> 02:20:17.360 for all that you do. God bless you, sir. Folks. 2747 02:20:17.399 --> 02:20:19.200 Have a wonderful day, and don't call wey. Glenn Beck's 2748 02:20:19.200 --> 02:20:23.120 coming right up Today's top stories at the top of 2749 02:20:23.159 --> 02:20:23.479 the hour. 2750 02:20:23.719 --> 02:20:25.159 It's information that matters to me. 2751 02:20:25.520 --> 02:20:28.040 Fifty five krs the talk station. 2752 02:20:30.040 --> 02:20:30.719 This report