WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:05.879 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news 2 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:06.599 radio home. 3 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:10.000 Thanks very much, Emmy, you gotta stay warm, baby, it's 4 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:11.199 cold outside. 5 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:14.839 As they sing in that song, it is cold outside tonight. 6 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:17.320 I heard nineteen degrees, but I suspect it feels a 7 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:19.640 lot colder than that. So if you're in your car, 8 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:21.440 I hope you get the heat turned up. We'll keep 9 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:25.960 your company wherever you're headed this mid December weekend. Today 10 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:29.160 is Friday the thirteenth, and we're going to talk about 11 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:33.960 that later on tonight. Plumb your brain for your superstitions. 12 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:36.359 Did you think about it today? Did you not think 13 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:39.039 about it today? I get a feeling that there's a 14 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:41.159 lot of people out there who wake up on a 15 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:43.280 thirteenth of Friday the thirteenth. 16 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:45.079 A little more wary than usual. We'll figure that out 17 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:45.880 later on tonight. 18 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:48.119 Well, also at nine o'clock, I'm going to talk about 19 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:51.399 Louis ti on. You know, Louis passed away in October, 20 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.679 and once again the Veterans Committee on the Baseball Hall 21 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.399 of Fame chose to pass him by. And I've done 22 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:00.439 a little research here. I want to get a little 23 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:02.439 bit of a bandwagon rolling for Louis t On. 24 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:04.079 This guy deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. 25 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:04.959 So we'll get to that. 26 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:08.480 And there's another subject or two would like to talk 27 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:09.959 about tonight, a little bit of New England. 28 00:01:09.959 --> 00:01:11.239 Nossalasar at ten o'clock. 29 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:16.439 What are some of the great institutions that have gone 30 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:19.079 on I've passed on here in New England that you missed. 31 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:21.120 We'll talk about that, but first off, we have our 32 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.920 Nightside News update and we're going to start off with 33 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:28.920 Katie Johnson, who writes for the Boston Globe, and she 34 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:33.400 has an interesting article on the top places to work 35 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:38.599 in Massachusetts based on employee surveys. Katie Johnson, I think 36 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:40.879 we've had you before. Welcome back to Nightside. How are 37 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:41.280 you tonight. 38 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:44.200 I'm doing well. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. 39 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:44.799 Yeah. 40 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:48.200 Correct, I think we did speak before, at least once. 41 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:48.640 Correct. 42 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:53.000 I have done this list for maybe ten years, so 43 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:54.079 chances are good. 44 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:57.120 Okay, that's great. I'm glad to hear it. Now. 45 00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:01.200 This is not a survey that you did. This is 46 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:07.519 a survey according to enter Gauge is what is ener gauge. 47 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:10.800 It makes it sound like it's an energy company because 48 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:14.439 we got two g's but know why, So tell us 49 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:16.159 what eder Gauge is. 50 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:22.439 First, well, Energauge is an employee engagement company, so you know, 51 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:25.719 also a play on the name. And yes, they do 52 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:30.960 these surveys for publications around the country where they take surveys, 53 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:35.400 anonymous surveys of employees at companies and we ended up 54 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:41.360 surveying three hundred plus companies and it's like twenty five 55 00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:44.520 questions that they ask them and then they rank them, 56 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:47.599 you know, different weights for different questions and come up 57 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:52.520 with a ranking of companies in four different size categories. 58 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:56.759 I see that there's the categories. 59 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:59.520 Is I understand that are big big companies which would 60 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:03.639 be a thousand employees are more Top large companies two 61 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:05.840 hundred and fifty to nine ninety nine, that's still a 62 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:09.240 big company, Top medium sized companies one hundred and two 63 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:12.199 forty nine, and top small companies fifty to ninety nine. 64 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:16.520 So you don't this company that does the work here. 65 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:20.520 It doesn't drop below fifty. So if you could have 66 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.800 a great small company with thirty people, happiest place in 67 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.280 the world, that's not going to show up in the survey, correct. 68 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:29.560 Right, They don't do the tiny companies and I think 69 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:33.800 the small number makes it harder to quantify the results 70 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:34.599 or something like that. 71 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:38.039 Okay, so they know the companies they want to do 72 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:41.520 they do they survey employees in every company. How do they? 73 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:44.280 I know how they do political polls? But I'm interested 74 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:45.000 in how they do this. 75 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:47.080 Well, they invite companies. 76 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:52.520 They invite thousands of companies and then ones that want 77 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:54.439 to do it. Then they have to survey a certain 78 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:57.000 percentage of their employees and they have to get the 79 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.800 completed survey, so they have to reach a certain amount 80 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:00.800 to qualify. 81 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:04.919 So what what I'm doing here is I'm qualifying this myself. 82 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:08.319 This isn't on the level survey that they had made 83 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:09.120 an effort here. 84 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:11.360 So let's talk about the. 85 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.040 Let's talk about a couple of the top companies that 86 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:20.480 maybe people are familiar with. Let's let's why don't you 87 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:24.720 take the lead here, let me let me listen attentively, attentively. 88 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:29.680 Okay, Well, I can tell you what the number one 89 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:30.639 companies are. 90 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:33.399 Uh, if that's what you're interested in. 91 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:38.800 Okay, So the number one small company is a brain 92 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:44.399 Tree insurance agency called Fisher Agencies. The number one mid 93 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:49.000 sized company is a Boston business and tech consulting firm 94 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:52.720 called s c I Boston, and they do a cool thing. 95 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:53.040 Uh. 96 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:54.680 You know, we like to call out different things that 97 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.319 these companies do, and this one they have a bi 98 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:01.720 weekly dinner time staff eating at their downtown office. And 99 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:04.360 to make it easier for parents to attend, they have 100 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:09.079 on site childcare movies and kid friendly food. So you know, 101 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:11.920 they they make it easy to bring your kids. And 102 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:13.360 it's nice that they think of you. 103 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.600 As, you know, the whole person. You have a lot 104 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:17.199 of things going on besides work. 105 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:19.720 The number one. 106 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:21.839 Outside the only downside of that would be if you 107 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:23.560 have a couple of kids. It's great to be able 108 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:25.639 to bring them in, but you've got to get back 109 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:27.879 into the city if you live outside of Boston. 110 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:28.800 I guess I don't like. 111 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.639 It, right, Yeah, yeah, let's. 112 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:35.439 Get okay, Yeah, I'm only having fun with you, all right, 113 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:37.800 and give us the top large company. This is now 114 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:39.600 we'll get into the companies that maybe some of us 115 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:41.839 will actually have done some business with. 116 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:45.959 The number one large company is a Waltham real estate 117 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:50.920 firm called the Lamachia Realty and they've won before, I believe. 118 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.199 And then the largest company that was number one is 119 00:05:55.040 --> 00:06:00.199 a brain Tree, senior living company called Senior Living Residences. Know, 120 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:05.079 these aren't necessarily all household names two people, but it's 121 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:07.519 always interesting to learn about new places. 122 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:12.000 Now, I'm assuming that you're not that they did not 123 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:14.519 release the names of the worst companies to work. 124 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:17.399 You know, it's funny you say that, because I've always 125 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.600 wanted to do that list, but for some reason, you know, 126 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:24.360 the leadership team pushes back on that. I don't think 127 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:26.480 they'd get much in the way of advertising dollars either. 128 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:34.120 Well I'm talking I'm talking about energet Gauge probably has 129 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:37.560 a deal with the companies that if they don't turn 130 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:42.120 out pretty well, you know that cauld that that won't 131 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:42.600 be mentioned. 132 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:43.000 I guess. 133 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:45.240 So, yeah, they don't release the names of the of 134 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:46.040 the bottom once. 135 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.920 Yeah, sure, yeah, okay, so, and no one knows all 136 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:53.879 the different companies that participate. What percentage of companies around 137 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:56.959 the state do you think participate in this? Is this 138 00:06:57.079 --> 00:06:59.680 a really good sample? I mean, obviously they do a 139 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.160 good sample in terms of the different sizes. I get that, 140 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:09.839 But is your sense that this this whole project, this 141 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:11.839 seems to be me from what I know about it, 142 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:14.040 it's really really on the up and up and on 143 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:17.120 the level. And I'm assuming you must believe that as 144 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:18.480 well to have written the story. 145 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:21.680 We do believe that. Yeah, we do it. We do 146 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:24.480 it every year. I mean it's certainly not every company, 147 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:26.839 or even the majority of them. I mean there was 148 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:28.959 only three hundred and twenty three companies that went through 149 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:32.759 the entire process of being surveyed, right, So, so not 150 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:35.040 every only companies that think they're going to do well 151 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:37.160 will do this to begin with. Right, So the lot 152 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:40.439 of the companies kind of select out, and so you 153 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:41.120 get kind of the. 154 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:44.360 Anyway, well, when you mentioned that number, if there's three 155 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.839 hundred and twenty three companies competing, for lack of a 156 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:50.839 better word, and one hundred and seventy five have been 157 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:54.160 recognized as one of the companies with the happiest employees, 158 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:58.240 you got about a fifty to fifty shot to Yeah, 159 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:02.800 the odds are not dead. No, absolutely not bad. Which 160 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:05.120 I could get those odds on my football picks on 161 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:08.120 the weekend. But that's another story for another time, Katie. 162 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:10.759 When does the story run, and if it hasn't run yet, 163 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:12.600 I am embarrassed to tell you I haven't read it, 164 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:15.240 but I'm hoping that we can mention that it's going 165 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:18.519 to be in the paper at a date going forward. 166 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:23.600 Well, it ran last weekend, Dan little late, but that's okay. 167 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:25.600 I came out in the Sunday magazine, but you can 168 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:26.839 still find it online. 169 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:31.000 Absolutely, I appreciate that. Well, I wish we would next year. 170 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:33.159 Let's do it ahead of time, because that way we 171 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:36.399 can generate little business for the Globe on Sunday. There'll 172 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:37.000 be a lot of people. 173 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.360 I'm serious knowing well, to your producer's credit, they tried 174 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.480 to get me on last Friday night, but I had planed, 175 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.679 so they you know, punted for this week. 176 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:48.120 So we'll take what we can get. 177 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:50.399 We won't tell the Globe. 178 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:53.679 They'll never know. It's between you and me. 179 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.080 You got it all right, Katie, Thanks very much. 180 00:08:57.159 --> 00:08:59.480 I appreciate you. A good sport. Talk to you soon, Okay, 181 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:04.039 thank you, thank you. I like people who have a 182 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.320 sense of humor and who can kind of play radio 183 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:07.080 a little bit. 184 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:08.200 Just have some fun with it. 185 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:10.200 We come back when I have a little bit more 186 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:14.200 of a serious conversation. And these are tips as I 187 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:19.240 read this for landlords that anyone should know before they 188 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:23.320 rent out their property. So normally, normally you would think 189 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:26.080 that someone would be saying beware that person's a bad 190 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:28.840 landlord or whatever. No, this is quite the contrary. This 191 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:33.919 is tips for landlords to avoid what they characterize as 192 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:37.879 the monster tenant. 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Back on Nightside with our 204 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:11.879 next guest right after this. 205 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:16.039 Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World 206 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:19.279 Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. 207 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.320 All right back to the conversation of the hour. This 208 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:27.399 of course is the night Side News update and our 209 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:30.759 next guest. This is sort of a kind of a 210 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:34.679 change up, if you will, in baseball parlance. Ten landlord 211 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:38.120 tips that anyone, And I assume that means a landlord 212 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:42.440 should know before renting out their property. Suzanne Segrament is 213 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:43.000 my guest. 214 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:44.720 Hi, Suzanne, how are you tonight? 215 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:46.240 Great? 216 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:46.799 Thanks Dan? 217 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:47.600 How are you doing? 218 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:53.200 I'm doing just great now. Victim of monster tenants? So 219 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:56.639 this is from the perspective of the landlords. 220 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:02.240 Correct, yep, that's me all right, So tell. 221 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:05.879 Us what the I can imagine there are some tough landlords, 222 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:10.519 but I also suspect there were probably some some tough tenants. 223 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:13.879 What are the ten landlord tips that people? And there 224 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:15.879 are a lot of people who were small landlords. They 225 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:18.279 have a three decker here in Boston or somewhere in 226 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:21.519 our listening area, and they rent out a couple of floors, 227 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:24.720 and not only do they have tenants, but they have 228 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:27.159 people living in the same building in which they reside. 229 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:29.039 I'm sure a lot of people will pay a lot 230 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:30.519 of attention to what you're going to tell us. 231 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:34.039 Yeah, well, first they just want to say that we 232 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:37.480 had a monster tenant that you cannot believe, who moved 233 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.519 in and tore down three bedrooms without permission. It was 234 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:45.720 absolutely insane. So these tips come from direct experience of 235 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:50.039 a really, really bad tenant. The first thing is really 236 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.240 important is that you have to do a background check 237 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:55.720 and a credit report. Even if your broker gives that 238 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:58.600 to you. Most people think, oh, the broker is going 239 00:11:58.679 --> 00:11:59.879 to do all the work and they're going to do 240 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:02.440 on the vetting. But nope, it's really up to you 241 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:07.720 as a landlord to do that important step. And I 242 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:12.200 in some places this is illegal to do, but I 243 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:15.519 think it's important to google the tenant's name, and also 244 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:18.399 to just google with any kind of thing you can 245 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:22.320 think of that worries you arrest or conviction or house 246 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:25.080 in court. Just get a look at as many things 247 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:25.759 as possible. 248 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:30.159 I don't know why that should be illegal, especially if 249 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:31.240 it's a public record. 250 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:35.679 Yeah, I don't know. I think maybe illegal is the 251 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.919 wrong term. But you can't, at least in New York, 252 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:43.799 where they're very pro tenant, you can't use housing court 253 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.879 information to make a decision about them something like that. 254 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:48.240 It's it's problic. 255 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:55.159 Yeah. You might see a LinkedIn profile with a lot 256 00:12:55.200 --> 00:13:00.159 of great educational background, and that's not going to help 257 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.279 you unless you're actually call the schools and find out 258 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:07.000 if that person actually went there. What's on LinkedIn could 259 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.759 be made up basically, and that's what happened with our tenant. 260 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:14.240 He made everything up Harvard, a master's degree, a PhD. 261 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:18.519 Everything was completely made up, and documents were forged and 262 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:20.039 we were completely colored. 263 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:23.559 Did it take you to evict this person, Well, it 264 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:24.279 took us. 265 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:27.840 It was three months. We were very lucky. I found 266 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:31.480 twenty other victims around the world, and so he's done 267 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.120 this to a lot of people before, and we were lucky. 268 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:38.080 You said that this tenant. 269 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.039 Destroyed three bedrooms or it was yeah, a party it 270 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:45.159 was it a party animal or was it some guy 271 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:49.080 who thought that he could they could improve your property 272 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:51.279 by taking a wall or two down. 273 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:55.559 No, he was actually it was the middle of the pandemic, 274 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:57.840 and he was looking for a payout, if you can 275 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:01.200 believe that. So he moves into people's places and kind 276 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:04.360 of destroys them or does some kind of chaotic things 277 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:07.559 so that you want him out, and then he expects 278 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:09.480 you to pay him to leave. 279 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:13.799 Because in some states it's tough to ect, can take 280 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:17.200 months or years to evict even ye. 281 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:19.320 Okay, which is the pandemic. 282 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:22.600 Yeah, yeah, wow, okay, So there was. 283 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:25.879 An eviction moratorium at the time. During the pandemic, So 284 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:28.320 there was really nothing we could do. But we did 285 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:31.440 finally get him out. It took us four months. 286 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:34.840 Four months and so he never paid you any rent. 287 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:38.000 And how much damage did he do to your uh, 288 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:41.000 to your property that that you you're probably never going 289 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:42.720 to be able to sue him for or at least 290 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:43.240 sue himself. 291 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:45.840 Now there's a lot of he's had a lot of 292 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.360 judgments ahead of us, so we're way back in the line. 293 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:51.039 I'd say it's probably three to four hundred thousand dollars 294 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:54.879 worth of damage overall, including legal fees and loss of 295 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:58.240 value of the property, just and also putting the bedrooms back. 296 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:01.679 I mean, it was just devastating to see my daughter, 297 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:05.399 you know, my my darling baby daughter's bedroom kind of 298 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:09.720 you know, in pieces on the ground outside, outside the floor. 299 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:12.519 It was it was really really tough situation. 300 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:15.559 Well, you know, I know you're not supposed to resort 301 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:19.720 to us lawyers call self help, but boy, it would 302 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:21.600 be great if you had somebody who would be willing 303 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:25.519 to go in and just I don't know, you teach 304 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:29.879 him some manners would be one way there an instructional 305 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:32.240 course in appropriate. 306 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:36.480 I like that is that like that's like Boston speak, 307 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:37.919 teaching someone manners. 308 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:42.399 That was a very subject we would never invoke, imply, 309 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:44.559 or suggest any form of violence. 310 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:52.759 But uh, well he actually sorry, go ahead, I was 311 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.279 just gonna say he was violent. I mean we brought 312 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:57.879 our architect with us when he ended up punching her 313 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:01.600 in the face and breaking both her her hands. So 314 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:04.159 he was a really bad guy. He's it's called the 315 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:06.440 Monster Tenant. I mean, he's the Monster Tenant. I wrote 316 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:07.279 an article about it. 317 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:13.840 And where can folks find that article, Susan, It's. 318 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:16.840 In New York magazine. And there's a lot of stuff 319 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:21.200 I'm sharing on my social media at Suzanne Segerman Instagram 320 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:23.480 and Facebook and Susanne Segraman dot com. 321 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:24.159 You'll see a lot of. 322 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:27.720 Suse Susan s u z A N N E and 323 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:30.399 Segrament is s E G G E R M A 324 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:33.440 N what a couple of the other in the in 325 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:35.960 the two or three minutes that we have left, And again, 326 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:38.399 I want people to reach out and be in contact 327 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:40.799 with you sound like an awfully nice person. And it's 328 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:43.639 it's amazing how how many jerks there are in the world, 329 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:47.480 and this guy seems to be a class Uh yes, 330 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:50.559 I hope he's going to be doing it to other people. 331 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:53.639 So this is this is a cautionary tale. Give us 332 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:55.559 a couple of other tips. Obviously, you really want to 333 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.919 do a background check on someone. You want to find 334 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:00.480 out who the prior lords are. 335 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:02.039 I would assume that's. 336 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:03.720 That's a good that's a really good one. You have 337 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:06.039 callow them up, talk to them directly and see if 338 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:08.039 you can verify the landlords too, because a lot of 339 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:11.079 people just give you the names of friends, so you know, 340 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:13.200 you have to figure out who they really are the 341 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:18.839 landlord and get their real number and checking references. You know, 342 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:22.319 you again want to check their references, but find out 343 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:25.119 if you can if their references are real people as well. 344 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:28.240 So if you can independently verify what that telephone number 345 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:31.519 is and depending on your go ahead, go ahead. 346 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:34.839 If I had a chance, between references and checking out 347 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:38.599 the former landlords, I mean, references can be glowing and 348 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:41.839 they the person might be a buddy of theirs or something. 349 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:45.759 But again, if someone like this is the monster tenant 350 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:48.240 and they've done this before, well they're going to be 351 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:51.720 very likely. This sounds like a guy that truly should 352 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:54.839 be indicted for extortion in my opinion, did you ever 353 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:57.599 consider filing a criminal charge against him of extortion? 354 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:02.400 Well, I went after him, and I sent packages of 355 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:05.720 information and all the information I gathered on the other 356 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:10.039 victims to various law enforcement agencies, and eventually. 357 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:12.319 There's a federal investigation on him. 358 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:14.960 Right now, he's on the loose still, so look out 359 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:18.799 out there. Don't we think he's overseas, but there is 360 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:20.279 an investigation underway. 361 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:22.960 Yeah, it would be great because it seems to me 362 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:26.559 that when he has a track record of doing this 363 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:28.000 to a series of people and. 364 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:31.680 Then demanding money for. 365 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:36.960 Him to leave the property and stop doing damage, you 366 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.079 talk about a quid pro quo, and I'm speaking as 367 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:42.799 a lawyer, that's extortion, plain and simple, and someone like 368 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:44.839 that should go away for a long time if you 369 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.839 can prove this is a pattern in practice of his activity. 370 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.440 You sound like a lovely person, Suzanne. 371 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:51.000 And. 372 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:55.039 I don't think he thinks so well. 373 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.799 I'm seriously if it was me, i'd be bitter and angry, 374 00:18:57.880 --> 00:18:59.920 and I don't sense that in your voice. I sent 375 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:01.799 That's what you're doing is trying to get the word 376 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:06.359 out so that other people who work hard have you know, 377 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:09.359 an additional piece of property that they're willing to rent out. 378 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:13.880 Uh and and they become the victims victims of extortion. 379 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:17.200 That's you're you're a victim of extortion. And uh I 380 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:20.359 I'm guessing from your area code you're in the New 381 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:20.960 York area. 382 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:22.759 Uh. 383 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:27.440 Yeah, actually I'm in Connecticut. But we used to. 384 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:31.799 In terms of the legislature down there does nothing to 385 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:36.119 protect property rights for uh, you know, people who who 386 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:39.039 own property, and for landlords. It has always assumed that 387 00:19:39.079 --> 00:19:43.480 the landlord is the bad person, which is just so unfair. Susanne, 388 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:47.240 I really thank you. How can folks they just google 389 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:50.160 your name, Suzanne, Segrament s E G G E R 390 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:53.799 M A n uh and s U z A N 391 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:58.920 N E you said on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook. 392 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:05.720 Yeah, we're also google my monster tenant and you'll find 393 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:06.640 the article. 394 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:08.599 Perfect, perfect, perfect. 395 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:10.680 Let's get the word out there, Suzanne, thanks so much 396 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:12.920 for doing this. I'm so sorry for what you had 397 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:15.960 to go through, but hopefully spreading the word here will 398 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:19.680 prevent this guy and others of his ilk from taking 399 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:24.160 advantage of decent people and basically engaging in extortionate practice. 400 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:25.720 In my opinion, thank. 401 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:28.759