Speaker 1: More answer, of course information.
Speaker 2: We have a guest today. I'm very pleased to have
Speaker 2: Brian Susman with us on. Brian has just written another
Speaker 2: a new book, great book called Climate Cult, and we're
Speaker 2: going to feature a climate cult and explain the book.
Speaker 2: Brian and I have known each other for a long time.
Speaker 2: Brian was a meteorologist out in San Francisco. He had
Speaker 2: a podcast radio private show for years, and I was
Speaker 2: a guest on his show going back to about two
Speaker 2: thousand and eight or two thousand and nine in that range,
Speaker 2: back when I was writing about Barack Obama and his
Speaker 2: questionable birth certificate and his questionable life, and his Marxism
Speaker 2: and all the rest I wrote. And my bestseller in
Speaker 2: that time was Abomination, which was number one New York
Speaker 2: Times bestseller in two thousand and eight. And I'd also
Speaker 2: done Where's the Birth Certificate? Twenty eleven, just as they
Speaker 2: produced a phony birth certificate and said this was the
Speaker 2: real one. We actually found the birth certificate from which
Speaker 2: that was copied, and Sarah O. Pyo, after doing years
Speaker 2: of really forensic work on it, verified that we did
Speaker 2: find the birth certificate from which Barack Obamas was copied.
Speaker 2: So that's different than the topic we're here to discuss today, Brian,
Speaker 2: thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3: You know, doctor Corsi, maybe it isn't so different because
Speaker 3: you just mentioned Obama's Marxist background, and the Marxist philosophy
Speaker 3: has been driving the environmental movement, going back to Frederick Engels,
Speaker 3: you know, Karl Marx writing partner back in the eighteen eighties.
Speaker 3: So really they're closely aligned. But by the way, it's
Speaker 3: just an honor to be with you. We had so
Speaker 3: many great radio discussions in San Francisco over the years,
Speaker 3: so now the table's turned and I'm on your program.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Well, that's great, And as you know, I've written a
Speaker 2: book on climate, which is the truth about energy, global warming,
Speaker 2: and climate change. And my book did quite well. I
Speaker 2: was very pleased with it. It's still doing well, and
Speaker 2: I'm very curious and anxious to have you explained yours.
Speaker 2: But I think we start from the same premise. So
Speaker 2: let's start here on the Marxism of the climate movement
Speaker 2: and tell us how your book adds to that discussion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and it's interesting because I wrote the
Speaker 3: book Climate Gait, a veteran meteorologist exposes the global warming scam,
Speaker 3: then ecotyranny, how the LEPs green agenda will dismantle America,
Speaker 3: now climate called exposing and defeating their war on life, liberty,
Speaker 3: and property. All that said, your book on energy and
Speaker 3: climate change and environmentalism was the most clearly the most
Speaker 3: thorough book ever written on the topic. And when I
Speaker 3: saw that book, I was in the process of writing
Speaker 3: Climate Caled. I saw your book, I thought, Wow, Okay,
Speaker 3: I've got to start change. I've got to change some
Speaker 3: things because no publisher is going to want my book.
Speaker 3: You covered at all. What can I do differently? So
Speaker 3: I think my book really does compliment yours very well.
Speaker 3: But getting back to the Marxism point of view, and
Speaker 3: I know this is you know, this is all within
Speaker 3: your wheelhouse. I've read just about everything that Karl Marx
Speaker 3: and Frederick Engels ever put together. And I came across
Speaker 3: a document and it's in climate called It's a paper
Speaker 3: that was written by Angles in eighteen eighty three. And
Speaker 3: you know, these guys they hated capitalism, they hated industrialization,
Speaker 3: they hated free markets, they hated human progress. And so
Speaker 3: Frederick Engels actually put together a incredibly well written paper
Speaker 3: describing what soot would do to the atmosphere. The soot
Speaker 3: from industrialization would take Earth into a ball of ice,
Speaker 3: void of all life, plant life, animal life, human life
Speaker 3: would be vanquished, completely gone. And that was his big
Speaker 3: skin tactic to really get the environmental movement rolling. So
Speaker 3: this is again, this is in the eighteen eighties. And
Speaker 3: then I started looking at some of these disciples of
Speaker 3: Marx that came forward, and one of his first disciples
Speaker 3: was a guy named Justice von Liebig, Justice von Libig,
Speaker 3: I mean, he was literally taught by Marx. He came
Speaker 3: up with the first environmental crisis. He hated humankind, he
Speaker 3: hated progress, he hated capitalism, industrialization. And he said that
Speaker 3: the guano trade. So guano was being used as a
Speaker 3: fertilizer in Great Britain, and crops were growing. People were
Speaker 3: able to have more food on the table. Families were
Speaker 3: getting larger, with larger families where they were larger houses,
Speaker 3: with larger houses that manned larger plots of land. People
Speaker 3: had more animals, people had carriages, people had all of
Speaker 3: this stuff. He was despised by how humans were living better.
Speaker 3: He called the guana trade a robbery system, a robbery
Speaker 3: system that was going to destroy nature. Then you had
Speaker 3: another one of marx disciples. This was Sir Edwin Ray Lancaster.
Speaker 3: He called he was another one of these environmentalists early
Speaker 3: in his time. He called humans the insurgent sons of nature.
Speaker 3: And then then you can fast forward a little farther
Speaker 3: along to for example, well, let's talk about Rachel Carson
Speaker 3: Silent Spring. That book still sells well to this day.
Speaker 3: She was a Marxist, she had Marxist ties. Her boyfriend
Speaker 3: was a Marxist from UC Davis. So, and then you
Speaker 3: go to Paul Erlick with the population bomb, I mean,
Speaker 3: clearly a guy with a socialist mindset. Then you look
Speaker 3: at the founders of Earth Day. All of these guys
Speaker 3: hated America and loved communism. So there's this straining, doctor Corsi,
Speaker 3: that runs through this environmental movement.
Speaker 1: It doesn't I think.
Speaker 2: Also the other part of it is that they hate
Speaker 2: God and so therefore they hate life, yes, that only
Speaker 2: God can bestow. They hate human beings as we're created
Speaker 2: in the image and likeness of God. Yes, and they
Speaker 2: want to destroy all that. Now, why they want to
Speaker 2: destroy it is hard to comprehend. I puzzled that for
Speaker 2: years and they just they just are filled with hate
Speaker 2: and they have no positive solution. It's interesting with what
Speaker 2: you were saying about the soot in the air, that
Speaker 2: you know the original Paul Eric and when he got
Speaker 2: together with John Holdron, which was an interesting combination, right
Speaker 2: because Eric his specialty, he was a PhD. Had specialized
Speaker 2: in butterflies. He studied butterflies. I don't remember Paul like
Speaker 2: ever writing anything there are too many butterflies in the world,
Speaker 2: but to many people. And then he gravitated to this
Speaker 2: Malthusian idea, which was rampant then and it is still
Speaker 2: rampant today, that there's too many people and we are
Speaker 2: the blight of the earth, and we're going to ultimately
Speaker 2: use the resources of the earth up so that those
Speaker 2: privileged few who really are entitled to the resources of
Speaker 2: the earth don't get their share. So they've got to
Speaker 2: kill us and get rid of us all. But the
Speaker 2: point is the hatred of God is fundamental now the
Speaker 2: sood idea what Eric got together with Holdron. Holdron was
Speaker 2: a climate he was he was a nuclear scientist. He
Speaker 2: studied plasma, which is very difficult subject in nuclear physics,
Speaker 2: and he applied. He said that Eric, well, let's make
Speaker 2: it a climate an existential threat. In other words, too
Speaker 2: many people, too much carbon dioxide, too much hydrocarbon fuels.
Speaker 2: But first they thought it was going to be global cooling, right,
Speaker 2: But suddenly this was going to lead to a global
Speaker 2: cooling effect. And then, of course the Earth did not
Speaker 2: continue to cool It got warmer for a period of years,
Speaker 2: not enough to make a real time series analysis, and
Speaker 2: so they shifted.
Speaker 1: But the you know, if if.
Speaker 2: The science were right, it would have been it wouldn't
Speaker 2: have had to shift between global warming and global cooling.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that's pretty drastic, you know, is it
Speaker 2: gonna Are we going to burn up or are we
Speaker 2: going to freeze? Well, either way it's no good, they
Speaker 2: want to say, you know, so either way you get
Speaker 2: a problem. People are the problem. So the Marxism runs
Speaker 2: all the way through it. Now when you get this
Speaker 2: green New Deal, which i'm you know, and Michael Mahon,
Speaker 2: who produces this hockey puck graph saying you know, everything
Speaker 2: was just fine until Industrial Revolution, then we shot up
Speaker 2: with temperatures. He becomes a Marxist openly in his most
Speaker 2: recent book. So the Marxism runs all through this movement, would.
Speaker 3: You agree, yes? And I really want to emphasize what
Speaker 3: you had to say. These people are anti God, and
Speaker 3: doesn't that make sense as well, because when you look
Speaker 3: at the foundation of Marxism, car Marks put together something
Speaker 3: called the laws of matter, and if you were to
Speaker 3: boil the laws of matter down, it would be some
Speaker 3: people are born with a better brain than others, and
Speaker 3: those people with the better brain have a metaphysical right
Speaker 3: of sorts or responsibility. I guess I should say, to
Speaker 3: rule over those with the lesser brain, because left to
Speaker 3: their own devices, those with the lesser brains will kill
Speaker 3: one another and destroy the planet. That's kind of at
Speaker 3: the heart of Marxism, this laws of matter. But what's
Speaker 3: at the heart of the United States of America well,
Speaker 3: inalienable rights, you know, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 3: And the Marxist thinks that's absurd. And we have people
Speaker 3: in our government today who they kind of sneer at
Speaker 3: these inalienable rights. God can give anybody rights. They really
Speaker 3: believe that only the government can issue rights. And so
Speaker 3: that's at the heart of this movement as well. You're right,
Speaker 3: it's an atheist, anti god movement designed to to not
Speaker 3: allow humans to flourish, but to take the excess humans
Speaker 3: and either get rid of them or keep them under
Speaker 3: lock and key.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean the self appointed privilege, which is that
Speaker 2: we're the entitled ones, is key to these systems. I
Speaker 2: mean when you talk, when you read all these climate movements,
Speaker 2: including you know, AOC and all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Now they're saying, well, we can't have climate you know
Speaker 2: sense whatever that means to them, get rid of stop
Speaker 2: using hydrocarbon fuels unless we've also got you know, gender
Speaker 2: freedom and we have queer theory accepted, okay, because they
Speaker 2: want their whole agenda to be wrapped in this, which
Speaker 2: makes it clear that this is not any longer about
Speaker 2: the climate itself.
Speaker 3: Right, right, And I you you touched on this, and
Speaker 3: this would be a great exchange. I'd love to get
Speaker 3: your thoughts further on this. But it's interesting how it's
Speaker 3: it's very difficult to explain this to just your average
Speaker 3: person on the street. You actually need to take some
Speaker 3: time to write it out and then hope that people
Speaker 3: will read it. But the whole idea that we can
Speaker 3: go from climate change to social justice, climate change to
Speaker 3: social equity. You know, they don't seem like they're connected,
Speaker 3: but the climate agenda is able to with you know,
Speaker 3: tricky language, connect all those very things. Well, this is
Speaker 3: one right, it's a broad movement.
Speaker 2: This is one of the strengths of your book as
Speaker 2: you're examining these kinds of questions, and these questions are
Speaker 2: very important because what they're saying, fundamentally, this becomes, as
Speaker 2: it were, a secular religion cult.
Speaker 1: You have to get this is the best the truth.
Speaker 2: Really understand the logic of how they operate, and that's
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the key strengths of your
Speaker 2: book is decoding this logic, which is really illogical. But
Speaker 2: when you say, okay, so we're burning hydrocarbon fuels and
Speaker 2: we are emitting carbon dioxide, which is a greenhouse gas
Speaker 2: is a process. Now, greenhouse gas is only a trace
Speaker 2: a trace molecule in the atmosphere point oh four percent,
Speaker 2: So it's not nearly as effective as greenhouse gas, as
Speaker 2: is water vapor, which is about seventy percent of all
Speaker 2: greenhouse gases. So we're dealing with the wrong end of
Speaker 2: the equation to begin with. Yes, but the only reason
Speaker 2: why we're dealing with that is because hydrocarbon fuels emit
Speaker 2: carbon dioxide. Okay, Now, if we say that this produces
Speaker 2: a good system, which then are not distributed, according to
Speaker 2: social justice, not equally distributed. White people get more and
Speaker 2: produce more, and those who are privileged from good schools
Speaker 2: get more, and so therefore minorities get less. And if
Speaker 2: we redistributed everything, we could have less use of energy
Speaker 2: because we wouldn't be overproducing for the privileged few, right right, right,
Speaker 2: So therefore, if we get no more use of hydrocarbon fuels,
Speaker 2: we can have a better redistribution of the much less
Speaker 2: that there is to distribute, which makes no sense at all.
Speaker 1: It's just cuckoo, cuckoo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just you know, So I got a good idea.
Speaker 2: Why don't we uh, you know, why don't we shoot
Speaker 2: ourselves in the foot so that we are not equally
Speaker 2: discriminating against people who are truly handicapped.
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, so you're I mean, you're bringing up some
Speaker 3: really excellent points. And and the way people are so
Speaker 3: able to believe these things, well, okay, you know that's
Speaker 3: why I contend this is run like a cult. They
Speaker 3: first put out this, these scary scenarios that draw people
Speaker 3: in and then they point a finger at each individual
Speaker 3: saying you are a carbon sinner. It's your lifestyle that's
Speaker 3: ruining the planet. But but you can atone you can
Speaker 3: atone my reducing your carbon footprint. I think just in
Speaker 3: the San Francisco Bay area, where you know, of course
Speaker 3: I lived in work for so many years, they're reviving
Speaker 3: the Oakland Airport. So there's the San Francisco Airport, which
Speaker 3: you've flown into before, and there's just across the bay
Speaker 3: the Oakland Airport.
Speaker 1: But now I've floated into both of the many doors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so so they're trying to revive the Oakland Airport.
Speaker 3: And the way they're selling this in their in their
Speaker 3: television commercials and radio commercials is by flying from Oakland,
Speaker 3: you can reduce your carbon footprint. I mean's just these
Speaker 3: coca maybe things. So see there's atonement for your your
Speaker 3: carbon footprint. But then they promised this great utopia, as
Speaker 3: we mentioned, where there's going to be no social injustice
Speaker 3: and there's going to be social equity for all. So
Speaker 3: it has all the underpinnings of a cult. But I
Speaker 3: mentioned this, doctor Corsi, because it's just like you know,
Speaker 3: when you wrote your books on Obama. Obama was like
Speaker 3: a cult the way they were able, so easily able
Speaker 3: to get guys people, I should say, behind this guy.
Speaker 3: The hysteria over COVID was run like a cult. So
Speaker 3: they've they've learned how to tap in to the heartbeat
Speaker 3: of so many uninformed people and really stretched these things out.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's interesting. I mean, yes, and it is
Speaker 2: a cult in that regard. My book on Obama was Abomination,
Speaker 2: and it was subtitle was the Cult of Personality.
Speaker 3: Yes, I forgot about the subtitle, right right.
Speaker 2: He personality, And I was really focused on that this
Speaker 2: was a cult in terms of Okay, now, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: I was reading yesterday just one of my favorite books
Speaker 2: I've published, maybe in the seventies, called How Real Is Real?
Speaker 2: And they were talking it's a book on social psychology,
Speaker 2: and they were talking about in Seattle then under the
Speaker 2: Eisenhower administration, when there was still nuclear testing being done
Speaker 2: in the atmosphere and in Seattle, knew highways were being
Speaker 2: built and there got to be people were saying, well,
Speaker 2: my car windshield is getting poked, you know, getting all
Speaker 2: these pock marks in my windshield from the radiation and
Speaker 2: the cement, and so there were reports all over the place.
Speaker 2: You know, all the people were reporting the car windshields
Speaker 2: were being destroyed. Well, the Eisenhower Group Eisenhower Presidenties and
Speaker 2: how Are actually sent out a task force to study this,
Speaker 2: and what they found was that the windshields were not
Speaker 2: getting poked parked. The windshilds were suffering normal road outside
Speaker 2: surface scarring from just being ridden driven. But there was
Speaker 2: no This phenomenon was not going on. But because people
Speaker 2: had the idea that it was going on, more and
Speaker 2: more people were saying, well, I've witnessed that there's a
Speaker 2: problem with my windshield, and so the whole city was
Speaker 2: going on to this bizarre idea. Now, once you do
Speaker 2: the same with carbon dioxide, and you say, well, you
Speaker 2: know are carbon footprint, there's something wrong with carbon ye, Well,
Speaker 2: a lot of our bodies are carbon, right, it's the
Speaker 2: backboat of life. Without carbon, we wouldn't be here, right.
Speaker 2: And carbon dioxide is plant food, so it is greener.
Speaker 2: And the earth is warmer today than it was during
Speaker 2: an ice age. But six hundred million years ago we
Speaker 2: had more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
Speaker 1: Than we had today.
Speaker 2: Right, We've had ice ages because of the Milenkovich cycles,
Speaker 2: we are orbited around the Sun is not circular, it's elliptical,
Speaker 2: and it gains more elliptical. We're farther away, we're likely
Speaker 2: to have an ice age. Now this is these are
Speaker 2: all scientific principles, but they're not taught in schools.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, Well it reminds me of that saying
Speaker 3: by Karl Marx history means nothing. They want to destroy history.
Speaker 3: They don't want you to know your history, and that
Speaker 3: includes the history of the Earth's atmosphere and climate. But
Speaker 3: I also like what you were saying regarding that trace
Speaker 3: amount of CO two in the atmosphere point zero four percent,
Speaker 3: And you look at what percentage of that is actually
Speaker 3: generated by humankind through the use of fossil fuels, primarily,
Speaker 3: it's four percent of the point zero four percent. That's
Speaker 3: an infinitestinable. That's you can't even measure that. That's so
Speaker 3: small it's hard to wrap your brain around that. But
Speaker 3: they don't want you to know that. You know, so,
Speaker 3: just a common observer would say, wait a second, the
Speaker 3: tails wagging the dog here, How could CO two be
Speaker 3: such a dangerous component of the atmosphere? One of the
Speaker 3: guys who endorsed my book, and you know of him,
Speaker 3: doctor Neil Frank, you know, former director of the National
Speaker 3: Hurricane Center, and he had mentioned to me in a
Speaker 3: private in a conversation that didn't make it into the book,
Speaker 3: but I have other instances of this fact present in
Speaker 3: the book. If we drop below two hundred right now,
Speaker 3: we're about four hundred and twenty parts per million in
Speaker 3: terms of CO two, very small amount, and again of
Speaker 3: that only four percent that is generated by humankind. But
Speaker 3: if we were ever to get down below two eighty
Speaker 3: parts per million, plant life would start dying. Right We
Speaker 3: need more CO two And as you mentioned in past
Speaker 3: eras CO two has clearly, through geological evidence, been higher
Speaker 3: than it is today.
Speaker 2: Well, your book is strong and saying that you can't
Speaker 2: refute these people with facts. No, No facts mean nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because they'll say, well, your your facts are racist. Your
Speaker 2: facts right, because you know, well you're a white person,
Speaker 2: so your facts are racist. We don't want your facts,
Speaker 2: we want our facts. Okay, it's not a fact driven argument.
Speaker 2: It's it's a postmodernist you know, we can posit the
Speaker 2: truth that we want.
Speaker 1: We can posit that the.
Speaker 2: World without carbon hydrocarbon fuels is going to be a
Speaker 2: cleaner Earth. Well, no, you can't posit that. I mean,
Speaker 2: for instance, okay, let's take another point. Scientifically, if we
Speaker 2: increase x amount we exude in the atmosphere x amount
Speaker 2: of carbon dioxide more, it doesn't mean there's going to
Speaker 2: be x amount more of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
Speaker 2: because it's not a linear process. It may have another
Speaker 2: thing that kicks in and takes out some of that.
Speaker 2: More plants grow, sure, okay, and so the more plants
Speaker 2: exude oxygen, which is good for us. But again, since
Speaker 2: we exhale carbon dioxide, you can say this is the anthroposceine.
Speaker 1: In other words, human.
Speaker 2: Beings are going to be the cause of our own
Speaker 2: extinction because we are exhaling, and we should. We're going
Speaker 2: to kill cows because they produce methane and farting. We
Speaker 2: should kill human beings because they exhale carbon dioxide. So
Speaker 2: we're gonna save the planet by killing human beings.
Speaker 3: Right right? Yeah, See this, These are the mental gyrations
Speaker 3: that take place in order to sell this thing. And
Speaker 3: when you have an uninformed you know, populace, it's it's
Speaker 3: easier to pull this stuff off. I mean, you've all
Speaker 3: of your books kind of touch on this mindset, but
Speaker 3: so it is in climate cult as well. So what
Speaker 3: do they have planned for us? They they say that
Speaker 3: we're going to have a carbon neutral energy grid. Right,
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because you may have had this in
Speaker 3: your book. I certainly touched on it in mine. But
Speaker 3: Princeton University seems to be the go to for this,
Speaker 3: this carbon neutral this is the best of prist University
Speaker 3: of the truth. Frinally get to the place where it's
Speaker 3: all solar and all wind, well, we'll need a We'll
Speaker 3: need a wind turban field. That's two hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: million acres. So I did the math on this. That's
Speaker 3: that's Nebraska, that's Missouri, that's Kansas, that's Illinois, Kentucky, and
Speaker 3: half of Indiana. That would all be wind turbines, right,
Speaker 3: and half of it wouldn't work right. And so then
Speaker 3: at M I t the geniuses at MIT who are
Speaker 3: all in on this as well. They said, well, we'll
Speaker 3: certainly have to have a battery backup. Okay, great, We're
Speaker 3: gonna have a battery backup for this this wind and
Speaker 3: solar outfit. So right now they're estimate for this battery backup,
Speaker 3: which they say could last twelve hours if it works,
Speaker 3: is going to cost a mere two point three trillion
Speaker 3: dollars doctor Corsi. Right, these people are these people are.
Speaker 2: Mad well, and they want to capture carbon dioxide from
Speaker 2: the atmosphere and bury it in the earth. It was
Speaker 2: a big the big carbon capture factories. It's sublimate the
Speaker 2: carbon dioxide into the earth, right, well, it was it
Speaker 2: going to stay there. I don't know it's good. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's this ridiculous idea. And then then you can have
Speaker 2: carbon taxes so that if you want to emit more
Speaker 2: carbon dioxide, you buy a credit from someone who is
Speaker 2: emitting less, right, And so they have a tax scheme. Now,
Speaker 2: the idea of taxing the air we breathe has been
Speaker 2: something the left is wanted to be doing forever. They
Speaker 2: can just tax everything, tax even the air we breathe. Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: now it makes no sense at all because again, scientifically,
Speaker 2: carbon dioxide increases in the atmosphere follow warming, they don't
Speaker 2: precede warming, they don't cause warming, and the forces I
Speaker 2: typically have I find ridicule. The best way to deal
Speaker 2: with these people, I say things like you know that
Speaker 2: big yellow thing up there in the sky is not
Speaker 2: a tree ornament, you know, it's not a it's a
Speaker 2: it's the sn and it's the main source of light
Speaker 2: and heat on Earth. We know that because the earth
Speaker 2: rotates the the hard concept for the left concept. And
Speaker 2: then when we're on.
Speaker 1: The other side from the sun, it's dark. We called
Speaker 1: that night.
Speaker 2: It does me the sun's gone, it's coming back. It's
Speaker 2: wait a while, okay. And then when we rotate around
Speaker 2: we didn't have carbon dioxide, we didn't have greenhouse gases.
Speaker 2: When the sun is gone, a lot of the irradiation
Speaker 2: from the daytime would escape back up into the atmosphere.
Speaker 2: So the greenhouse gases are not noxious, they're not harmful.
Speaker 2: You know, we exhale carbon dioxide. It's not killing us
Speaker 2: right right.
Speaker 3: Well, there's that wonderful organization that I know you're aware of,
Speaker 3: the CO two Coalition. And you look at some of
Speaker 3: the heavy hitters on this list of scientists. They include
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty two winner in physics, John Cloud, John
Speaker 3: Klausser again, you know, physics professor Nobel Prize and he says, no,
Speaker 3: we need more CO two, not less, and John Klauser
Speaker 3: is an interesting case in point, as are so many
Speaker 3: others on this coalition. And you know, we have other
Speaker 3: petitions like the Oregon petition, which I think has seen
Speaker 3: over thirty thousand scientists sign on to it, and Climate
Speaker 3: Intelligence another group of heavy hitters. Thousands of people have
Speaker 3: signed on saying they don't buy this theory of global
Speaker 3: warming or climate change. But you look at so many
Speaker 3: of these people when they finally did a deep dive,
Speaker 3: like John Klauser did this, he did a deep dive
Speaker 3: into the temperature record. He said, I want to see
Speaker 3: what's going on with this global warming thing. Doctor Neil
Speaker 3: Frank did the same thing in the nineties. He said,
Speaker 3: I've got access to all the records. I want to
Speaker 3: see what's happening with this global warming deal. And they
Speaker 3: all go through the records. And I've been able to
Speaker 3: do this as well as a meteorologist, but not to
Speaker 3: the level they have. They get access to more stuff
Speaker 3: than I can that I've been able to. But you
Speaker 3: look and that the temperature record of the Earth has
Speaker 3: been so mismanaged and there are so many estimates that
Speaker 3: go into that climate record, and this is what John
Speaker 3: Klausy was saying he said, in the world of physics,
Speaker 3: we don't do estimates. We can't estimate the amount of
Speaker 3: cloud cover in the sky when we put together these
Speaker 3: climate models. We can't estimate the amount of water vapor
Speaker 3: in the atmosphere when we put together climate models. We
Speaker 3: need to know specifically. But again the public doesn't know this.
Speaker 3: So much of what's going into these models that spelled
Speaker 3: bluem and doom it's estimation. Well, and therefore there's an
Speaker 3: opportunity for bias.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
Speaker 2: And Judith Curry is one of it was one of
Speaker 2: the big Yes global warming believers.
Speaker 1: Really recently, she's recently.
Speaker 2: Changed her position and largely seeing how Michael Mann, for
Speaker 2: you know, fake the data. Yes, turned her around because
Speaker 2: she now understands and is writing effectively that you can't
Speaker 2: model the climate because the mathematics are not linear. So
Speaker 2: I've got nonlinear mathematics, which again people are not taught
Speaker 2: to understand what it means. The equations don't always end
Speaker 2: up with the same solutions.
Speaker 1: That's hard to understand.
Speaker 2: But you try to solve certain sets of differential equations
Speaker 2: that are almost unsolvable, yeah, or they have so many
Speaker 2: solutions that it's almost meaningless. So therefore, you know the
Speaker 2: probability of an outcome coming from these factors that if
Speaker 2: you could measure them precisely, And we can't measure them precisely,
Speaker 2: So small differences in measurement make a big difference in outcome. Yes,
Speaker 2: but we're measuring things with mathematics that are For instance,
Speaker 2: Pike has an infinite number of decimals. Is not a
Speaker 2: discrete number, you know, So therefore it's not measurable. And
Speaker 2: so how many decimals do you take when you want
Speaker 2: to say how warm is it today?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: If you could measure that, how many measurement points would
Speaker 2: you have to have on the earth to say what's
Speaker 2: the temperature of the earth right now?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Well, there isn't one temperature of the Earth right now
Speaker 2: because half of the world is dark, it's night. All
Speaker 2: kinds of variations, sure, and the complexity of this is enormous,
Speaker 2: and it cannot be modeled because we don't have the
Speaker 2: mathematics that permitted to be modeled. As a meteorologist, you know,
Speaker 2: is it going to rain tomorrow?
Speaker 1: You don't know?
Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, it's true. I mean, you know, you're going
Speaker 3: to be right on that general forecast probably eighty percent
Speaker 3: of the time. But now let's take it two days
Speaker 3: out or three days out and four days out, and
Speaker 3: your accuracy starts to plummet. And that's just that's just
Speaker 3: for the TV weather guy. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1: Well, the best idea of what it's going to do
Speaker 1: tomorrow is what it's doing.
Speaker 2: Today, and that's not very reliable, right, yeah, sorrow, And
Speaker 2: so therefore this prediction which is inherent in the cult,
Speaker 2: they're certain. Okay, so it goes back to psychological.
Speaker 1: So now another thing.
Speaker 2: Psychologically, Let's say we say that Hurricane Sandy comes through,
Speaker 2: or any hurricane comes through and does a lot of damage,
Speaker 2: it demands a news cycle. We say, we're getting an
Speaker 2: awfully lot of these. We're getting more of these than
Speaker 2: we've ever had before. Yes, okay, so now you're into
Speaker 2: climate porn.
Speaker 1: Here's a big hurricane.
Speaker 3: Who gets the title for that next book? You were me,
Speaker 3: I like that one.
Speaker 1: It's probably a good idea, climate porn.
Speaker 3: But okay, you're right though, with the climate porn, I'm
Speaker 3: the next time I say it as doctor Jerome Coursey
Speaker 3: told me, and then after that I'll say as a
Speaker 3: guy once told me, and then the third time, I'll say,
Speaker 3: as I've been saying forever, climate porn. But to your point, Okay,
Speaker 3: so this is what we're getting right now. I mean, people,
Speaker 3: don't we had that rash of tornadoes a couple of
Speaker 3: weeks ago. Right off the bat, they're saying, well, these
Speaker 3: are bigger tornadoes, more tornadoes than ever, but that defies
Speaker 3: history as well. I mean, the worst tornado in human history,
Speaker 3: I believe was nineteen thirty one, the tri State Tornado.
Speaker 3: It lasted many hours, it tore through two hundred and
Speaker 3: nineteen miles, It killed hundreds and hundreds of people in
Speaker 3: the Midwest. So we've tornadoes have always been By the way,
Speaker 3: tornadoes are so small they couldn't be computer to and
Speaker 3: into any climate models. They're tiny creatures. So more tornadoes
Speaker 3: this year this summer. You're going to hear about heat waves.
Speaker 3: Oh god, it's more heat waves than ever. It's got
Speaker 3: to be climate change, and on and on and on.
Speaker 3: It's it's the climate poorn. It's exactly what they.
Speaker 2: Do, and people believe it because they've heard it, and
Speaker 2: they begin dislike the you know, our windshields out Seattle
Speaker 2: are getting pock marked because the Russians are detonating nuclear
Speaker 2: weapons in the atmosphere and.
Speaker 1: We're getting the fallout.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you get a completely irrational set of beliefs.
Speaker 2: And okay, so more people are dying from hurricane well,
Speaker 2: of course they are.
Speaker 1: People are building more.
Speaker 2: In hurricane alleys. Absolutely, we have development of seacoasts, We
Speaker 2: have a bigger population. You know, Florida is a lot
Speaker 2: more populated today than it was in the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 2: So more people are going to die. And a hurricane
Speaker 2: comes through, it's a bad one. And when our bad
Speaker 2: hurricane comes through, you know, you may not have a
Speaker 2: structure that's going to be able to resist the forces
Speaker 2: of nature. These forces are enormous, and but they're natural.
Speaker 1: They're natural.
Speaker 2: There's the Earth's way that an alpha Okay, so let
Speaker 2: me climb it could and you cannot rationally argue these
Speaker 2: things with them.
Speaker 3: No, No, Well, okay, forest fires are another word or wildfires.
Speaker 3: We'll see massive forest fires this summer, probably most of
Speaker 3: them induced by lightning. But why do we see more
Speaker 3: of that? And they have a new term for this now,
Speaker 3: as you know, it's called flash fires. Flash We have
Speaker 3: flash floods, flash fires. Well, the reason why the fires
Speaker 3: are going out of control is because of this environmental
Speaker 3: mentality of preservation. You know, God, Okay, let's get back
Speaker 3: to God. God in the Book of Genesis says be
Speaker 3: a steward of the earth, take care of the earth. Well,
Speaker 3: I think, as a real conservationist, I want to take
Speaker 3: care of the earth. I want to manage the forest properly.
Speaker 3: But they believe in this preservation mentality just let them grow,
Speaker 3: let them go, and let let them grow. So our
Speaker 3: national forests and many of our state forests have just
Speaker 3: grown completely out of control. They're tinder boxes. Now. I've
Speaker 3: been able to observe this in my own lifetime, just
Speaker 3: hiking in the high Sierra places where I used to
Speaker 3: be able to hike unabated, to climb to the top
Speaker 3: of about and you can now longer do that. It's
Speaker 3: just filled with brush and all sorts of all sorts
Speaker 3: of invasive species that should have been cleared out a
Speaker 3: long time ago. But it's a tinderbox waiting to happen.
Speaker 3: And as such, I know this throughout the Western United States.
Speaker 3: I can't say what's happening back east, but fire Insurance
Speaker 3: rates have gone through the roof because of this.
Speaker 2: Now, it's right, the only thing I mean, and I
Speaker 2: think to attack a cult. And in your book again
Speaker 2: is very good on how do we attack a cult?
Speaker 1: So you can't argue with.
Speaker 2: Facts, right, but for most people, one of the key,
Speaker 2: all the ideas produced by this cult don't work, all bizarre.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So electric cars, okay, electric vehicles, sure, the original cars
Speaker 2: were electric vehicles. Why don't we have electric vehicles today? Well,
Speaker 2: because internal combustion engines were more efficient.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Now, if in winter in Chicago we had a bad winter,
Speaker 2: people could not recharge their cars in the open because
Speaker 2: the batteries don't charge when they get cold. Okay, we
Speaker 2: don't have enough charging stations. In fact, all this money
Speaker 2: that Biden passed in this environmental bill that we are
Speaker 2: the reduction, deficit reduction, we do all these wonderful things,
Speaker 2: none of which we've done. Well, we haven't built very
Speaker 2: many chargers either.
Speaker 1: And the chargers.
Speaker 2: You go to a charging station and some of the
Speaker 2: chargers don't work. Right, there's other people there.
Speaker 1: And you're in a long line, long lines.
Speaker 2: Well, you better turn your car off because it may
Speaker 2: run out of the battery and you won't be able
Speaker 2: to move it. You know, it goes on and on
Speaker 2: and on. I mean they wind turbines, well, they kill
Speaker 2: birds and they tend to burn up and they turn
Speaker 2: to wear out. Well that's so we got a lot
Speaker 2: of wind turbine junk and got a lot of solar junk.
Speaker 2: So we have a solar farm and it gets a hailstorm.
Speaker 2: What happens to the solar panels, Well, they probably aren't
Speaker 2: going to work very well after they've been hit by hail, right,
Speaker 2: And where do we get the batteries? Well, we had
Speaker 2: to use hydrocarbon fuels to get the rare earth minerals.
Speaker 1: So I thought this was net zero.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not supposed to say that, right, Okay.
Speaker 2: So again the difficulty is, and I think your book
Speaker 2: hits it right on top target, is that we're not
Speaker 2: dealing with rational people here. No, we're dealing with people
Speaker 2: who have been made to feel, and they've internalized it,
Speaker 2: that their future is waste. They're going to die because
Speaker 2: we produce too many chevrolets and plants.
Speaker 3: Right, So I ask you this, I certainly have my feelings.
Speaker 3: My feelings I'm sure are aligned well with yours. I
Speaker 3: think at the end of the day, this is really
Speaker 3: all about control. They just want to control our lives.
Speaker 3: They so despise humanity, they're so they're all for their
Speaker 3: little clique, you know, the elite, the elite class. But
Speaker 3: I think this is designed to just limit our energy
Speaker 3: availability and therefore control the way in which we all live.
Speaker 3: I mean, think about this, doctor Corsi. People around in
Speaker 3: America now are getting used to rolling blackouts. Well, well,
Speaker 3: they just happen from time to time. That's incredible. They
Speaker 3: should never happen. People are used to water shortages. That's
Speaker 3: that's insane. It's it's a management issue. There's enough water
Speaker 3: to take care of all of our needs abundantly. So
Speaker 3: so I sense this is just a method of eventual
Speaker 3: you know control.
Speaker 1: Well, at a.
Speaker 2: Heart, just like it's Marxist to the heart, it's also depopulation.
Speaker 2: It's Malthusiam and it's dark. It's anti human. Yes, it's
Speaker 2: it's a death cult and it's full. Let's use less
Speaker 2: efficient energy. Okay, well that's a good idea. It's less
Speaker 2: efficient energy. You know, let's teach our children less they'll
Speaker 2: be smarter. You know, these are things that just are
Speaker 2: inherently irrational. Let's have well we can't have, you know,
Speaker 2: fertilizers that are based on nitrogen. So therefore, how are
Speaker 2: we going to feed all these people? Well, we don't
Speaker 2: plan to feed all these people. You're gonna let them starve.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, there's too many of them. They have to be
Speaker 2: weeded out, okay, so they never want to need themselves out.
Speaker 2: It's just like I said, Paul Eric never saw too
Speaker 2: many butterflies that he complained about. He also didn't say
Speaker 2: that there are too many environmentalists, crackpot environmentalists that have
Speaker 2: to be worried weeded out right, or that we need
Speaker 2: to start teaching science in the schools again so people
Speaker 2: don't get bewitched by these bizarre ideas. But then, you know,
Speaker 2: you get to the point not only where you've got
Speaker 2: this psychological process going on where it's easier for people
Speaker 2: to believe a lie and think it through because they
Speaker 2: can find you know, well, we've now got a demonization.
Speaker 2: It's not the Jews, it's carbon dioxide. The carbon dioxide
Speaker 2: is the Jews of the atmosphere. So we got to
Speaker 2: make sure we get rid of it. Okay, it's about
Speaker 2: as insane as that, and so therefore, why would you
Speaker 2: want to get rid of carbon dioxide? I mean, it's
Speaker 2: it's greener here. Now, would you want to live in
Speaker 2: an ice age? I mean, are you serious you'd like to? Do?
Speaker 1: You know what an ice age is really like? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm living in New Jersey. I've got a
Speaker 1: big boulder here.
Speaker 2: By the hill right where we live, with a walking distance.
Speaker 2: That boulder was moved here by a glacier thousands of
Speaker 2: years ago. It didn't just it's just sitting in the field. Well,
Speaker 2: how they get there?
Speaker 3: It didn't just grow there.
Speaker 1: It didn't grow there.
Speaker 2: There's no other There's no other boulders like it around
Speaker 2: anywhere else except for a few more that were brought
Speaker 2: when the glaciers melted. The boulders stayed where they were.
Speaker 2: Why do we have the Great Lakes? Well we're dug
Speaker 2: out by the glaciers. Well we don't see the glaciers anymore.
Speaker 2: What doesn't mean they didn't happen.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, but again you know history means nothing. No,
Speaker 3: they don't want to hear that. I think one thing
Speaker 3: I talk about in the book, and I know you're
Speaker 3: familiar with You're quite familiar with the subject is the
Speaker 3: whole idea of geoengineering or solar geoengineering. I just find
Speaker 3: it amazing how these people are spending hundreds of millions
Speaker 3: of dollars at universities all over the world studying, especially
Speaker 3: solar geoengineering, where we're going to go into the stratosphere
Speaker 3: and start creating essentially weather where there currently is no weather.
Speaker 3: They don't think that's going to have some kind of
Speaker 3: side effect that might affect them as well. That's the
Speaker 3: part of the equation that's just to disconnect for me.
Speaker 3: And the other thing that I don't believe. You know,
Speaker 3: they all contend that they're just studying this theoretically with
Speaker 3: models and whiteboards, et cetera. But oh, we've but we
Speaker 3: would never test this, We would never do anything in
Speaker 3: the stratosphere to actually test our theories. I find that
Speaker 3: hard to believe as well. Well. They never admit to
Speaker 3: doing any of that.
Speaker 1: With their major scheme.
Speaker 2: Big schemes are let's put something in the atmosphere to
Speaker 2: block the Sun. That's a good idea. Let's block the
Speaker 2: major source of heat on Earth.
Speaker 1: Let's block it.
Speaker 3: Well, if it.
Speaker 2: Weren't for the Sun, we wouldn't be here. If we
Speaker 2: didn't have photosynthesis, and you know, carbon dioxide is fundamental
Speaker 2: to photosynthesis in plants, we wouldn't be here. So you
Speaker 2: can't eliminate the sun, and you can't eliminate carbon dioxide.
Speaker 2: And and yet, if we put on a crazy outfit
Speaker 2: and we paint ourselves up with face paint and we
Speaker 2: get signs and we go out hysterically and start screaming
Speaker 2: at people, we could say that you're destroying the planet.
Speaker 2: We want to save the planet. Well, of course everybody
Speaker 2: wants to save the planet. Now, the idea that human
Speaker 2: beings can save the planet must of the planets seemed
Speaker 2: kind of ridiculous because the planets experienced five major extinctions
Speaker 2: before we even got here, and so we're just the
Speaker 2: latest creatures walking around on the surface of this joint.
Speaker 2: And then the sun's been here and the planet's been here,
Speaker 2: and they're just waiting for us to be gone. All
Speaker 2: the rest of them that we're here be gone. It's
Speaker 2: not a permanent place, and it also is the place
Speaker 2: is subject of very cataclysmic action. So a big asteroid
Speaker 2: comes through and it participates in killing all the dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: Because it throws a tidal wave.
Speaker 2: Up from the Yucatan into what today Montana, and everything
Speaker 2: along the way is all killed.
Speaker 1: You can see it in the strata.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, well people don't you know it took the
Speaker 2: Alvarez Is to figure out that this uridium, which is
Speaker 2: thrown off by earthquakes and the other kind of phenomenon
Speaker 2: thrown off by comets hitting it can be found around
Speaker 2: the world. But the Earth repairs the damage, not like
Speaker 2: the Moon where there's no atmosphere and you see all
Speaker 2: the craters. Well, we've been hit two and we're going
Speaker 2: to be hit again. It's not a stable place. But
Speaker 2: these climate things, I think the only thing that's varied
Speaker 2: in Earth is industrial activity from human beings four point
Speaker 2: six billion years of Earth history or four point five
Speaker 2: however many billion years. Industrial activity is like less than
Speaker 2: a microsecond, correct, And yet everything that all we're suffering
Speaker 2: is attributed to that microsecond. Well that's ridiculous. Now, maybe
Speaker 2: we had a nuclear war and we blew up the
Speaker 2: entire planet that that microsecond could be significant, But putting
Speaker 2: on carbon dioxide into the atmosphere is a non event.
Speaker 2: And people just don't comprehend the scale of time or
Speaker 2: the scale of power or energy or events. So what
Speaker 2: your book focuses on, and this is where the attention
Speaker 2: needs to be, is that this is a cult. It's
Speaker 2: a crazed idea. And if people can understand that, it's
Speaker 2: not going to be so seductive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how do we get people out of this cult?
Speaker 3: I really make a plea at the end of the
Speaker 3: book this the younger millennials and Gen X and Gen Z,
Speaker 3: these are COMPACTI. These are incredibly liberal people by nature
Speaker 3: because of the indoctrination they've been exposed to beginning in kindergarten.
Speaker 3: But they're also very compassionate. And I'm making a plea
Speaker 3: to that compassionate part of their being that we need
Speaker 3: some common sense and just to take a step back
Speaker 3: and look at the big picture. But I'm reminded of
Speaker 3: something and I talk about this in the afterword. You know,
Speaker 3: America was at a crossroads prior to the American Revolution,
Speaker 3: and there was a spark, there was a light. There
Speaker 3: was an awakening that took place, and it was a
Speaker 3: spiritual awakening, and it took place through the sermons of
Speaker 3: people like Jonathan Edwards. Suddenly there was this great revival,
Speaker 3: this great awakening that happened in North America and a
Speaker 3: lot of people became filled with the spirit of God
Speaker 3: and they started seeing the world a little differently, and
Speaker 3: they really believed in their heart that we need freedom.
Speaker 3: We want freedom, we want religious freedom, we want as
Speaker 3: John Locke talked about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 3: We want these three principles to guide us. We don't
Speaker 3: need a king. We need to separate ourselves. And so
Speaker 3: they went out and fought the biggest military in the
Speaker 3: history of the world at that time, and they won.
Speaker 3: So my point, Doctor Cours is, we need, we desperately
Speaker 3: need an awakening in this country. And it's my prayer
Speaker 3: every day that the spirit of our Lord will just
Speaker 3: make himself known to people throughout this great United States
Speaker 3: from America, and that hearts and minds will be changed
Speaker 3: so that we can see the truth and realize that yes,
Speaker 3: this is a cult and the whole idea is oppressing
Speaker 3: us and taking away those inalienable rights of life, liberty,
Speaker 3: and the pursuit of happiness. I will say one more thing.
Speaker 3: This past weekend, I have a Bible study that I
Speaker 3: facilitate every Saturday morning with guys from all over the world,
Speaker 3: and because of what's going on in America right now,
Speaker 3: this divisiveness. I asked two guys to pray for us
Speaker 3: here in America. One was from Nigeria, the one was
Speaker 3: from Bulgaria, and their prayers were so profound. They were
Speaker 3: so grateful to the United States. The guy from Bulgaria
Speaker 3: because the United States helped break the shackles of the
Speaker 3: Soviet Union that allowed him to become free. He so
Speaker 3: appreciates America. The guys in Nigeria are there countries a
Speaker 3: hellhole right now, but nonetheless they are grateful to America
Speaker 3: because half of their brethren in the state of Nigeria
Speaker 3: are Christians, and that Christianity was spread to Nigeria to
Speaker 3: the African continent from America. So I want to believe,
Speaker 3: and I know you're an upbeat guy and you're positive
Speaker 3: about these things too, and you have your faith in
Speaker 3: Christ and you've told me about that in our radio
Speaker 3: shows in the past. I just I want to believe
Speaker 3: the best for this nation. But I think that can
Speaker 3: only come about with a spiritual awakening.
Speaker 1: Well, I agree with you. I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: And the.
Speaker 2: The thing about human beings is that you know, we
Speaker 2: get it right for a minute or two, and then
Speaker 2: suddenly after that we're like a duck that's been hit
Speaker 2: in the head by a board. From there on, we
Speaker 2: can't think anymore, okay, And so when they get it
Speaker 2: right for a few minutes, we will be thankful for that. Now,
Speaker 2: there ought to be a time in human history when
Speaker 2: we get it right, and we really get it right.
Speaker 2: But that's going to have to have not only a revival,
Speaker 2: but it's going to have to go back to fundamental institutions.
Speaker 2: We're going to have to get families that stay together. Yes,
Speaker 2: we're going to have to start teaching the fundamental principles
Speaker 2: of the Bible and teaching moral education. Now, these things
Speaker 2: are not I mean, even if you go to pre
Speaker 2: Christian and you read you know, Plato of the Laws,
Speaker 2: or you read Aristotle the Politics. These are principles that
Speaker 2: have understood since ancient times that human beings need these
Speaker 2: structures in order to function. And when the structures start
Speaker 2: breaking down, then the thinking gets bizarre and the country
Speaker 2: begins to deteriorate. So now once we have family breakups,
Speaker 2: we have all of the social division, we've got all
Speaker 2: kinds of issues going on, that.
Speaker 1: Have been carefully architected. So the climate cult.
Speaker 2: Is a very carefully crafted mind virus that's intended to destroy,
Speaker 2: and there is nothing being suggested to replace it except
Speaker 2: for a very small group to be in charge of everything.
Speaker 2: And since there anybody who disagrees with them and go irrational,
Speaker 2: the other irrationality, you know, the Orange Man bad. No
Speaker 2: matter what Donald Trump does, he's evil. We have to
Speaker 2: hate Donald Trump. Well, why what this guy do? I mean,
Speaker 2: he hired black people and when he had all kinds
Speaker 2: of minorities when he was doing real estate in New York,
Speaker 2: spend time with the workers. I mean, why do we
Speaker 2: hate him so much? We hate him so much because
Speaker 2: he's no longer part of the Metropolitan Museum Gala Leftist
Speaker 2: Coalition and the Upper East Side. He's dared to challenge
Speaker 2: some of the principles of socialism and communism. Well, that's
Speaker 2: not that's not permitted, not if you want to be
Speaker 2: members of this club, you know. So again, the ability
Speaker 2: of human beings to maintain a true thought, to live
Speaker 2: a virtuous life requires a commitment to do so, and
Speaker 2: it requires a decision, a moral decision to be made.
Speaker 2: That again, unless you're preparing and educating children to come
Speaker 2: to that point when they're capable. They're subject to all
Speaker 2: this demonic lies and nonsense, which is fundamentally well, you
Speaker 2: don't have to pay attention to mom and dad. You
Speaker 2: know better than mom and dad.
Speaker 1: You don't have to pay attention to them.
Speaker 2: And so it's fundamental in human nature. And I've spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time reading and thinking about it. It's
Speaker 2: fascinating to read some of the social psychology and to see,
Speaker 2: you know, all the things that have been known and
Speaker 2: studied over the years about human behavior, and they're not
Speaker 2: too flattering for human beings. You know, the Milgrim study
Speaker 2: where people will apply pain to each other if they're
Speaker 2: instructed to do so. It's not a very bright idea
Speaker 2: of what human beings are capable of doing. And so
Speaker 2: the cult nature of this which your book exposes, I
Speaker 2: think is fundamental to breaking through this climate nonsense and lies.
Speaker 2: And I'm very pleased you wrote this book.
Speaker 3: And I agree with you wholeheartedly. While we need this
Speaker 3: awakening at so many levels. We need to rebuild these
Speaker 3: fundamental institutions of our society because they've been broken down.
Speaker 3: So they've been broken down so well by the left.
Speaker 3: You know, they're so patient with their plans, aren't they.
Speaker 3: And I don't know how many years we have left,
Speaker 3: doctor Corsi, if we don't turn this ship around. I'm
Speaker 3: sure you've given some thought to that. But the clock
Speaker 3: is ticking. Everybody. Everyone needs to take part of this
Speaker 3: to get informed, become equipped, and then be willing to
Speaker 3: speak out. You know, if your church decides that they're
Speaker 3: going to be involved in climate justice, you need to
Speaker 3: get informed and speak out. When your school's teaching this,
Speaker 3: that or the other, it's your school, speak out. And
Speaker 3: I'm sure you would agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yes, And your books on climate are very readable, and
Speaker 2: so people are going to be able to be entertained
Speaker 2: and get think through these issues in a way where
Speaker 2: you're guiding them along the opening their eyes to various issues.
Speaker 2: And so I think all of your books are very important.
Speaker 2: I'm very pleased this one's out. Now let's again let's
Speaker 2: tell people. Let's name the three of your books now
Speaker 2: the climate what their names?
Speaker 3: The titles are climate Gate, which exposed the whole climate
Speaker 3: Gate email scandal, climate Gate a veteran meteorologist exposes the
Speaker 3: global warming scam, and that veteran meteorologists. Portion that came
Speaker 3: from my work. I was on the CBS station in
Speaker 3: San Francisco for years, but I also worked for CBS
Speaker 3: in New York. I was their regular filling guy for
Speaker 3: years on the CBS Morning News and the CBS This
Speaker 3: Morning Show. And just an interesting story there, doctor Corsy.
Speaker 3: I got to know Dan Rather a bit. Dan Rather
Speaker 3: approached me and he said, I want you to be
Speaker 3: our West Coast weather correspondent. Anything that goes down on
Speaker 3: the West Coast, you're on the CBS Evening News. This
Speaker 3: was probably like ninety five or something when he approached
Speaker 3: me and he said, and by the way, with all
Speaker 3: this talk of global warming, I think you'd be the
Speaker 3: perfect guy to talk to us about it now. I
Speaker 3: was skeptical of global warming in nineteen ninety five. I
Speaker 3: wasn't a denier like am today, but I was skeptical.
Speaker 3: And I said, well, Dan, you know the jury's still
Speaker 3: out on global warming, but i'd love to talk about this.
Speaker 3: When I said the jury's still out, and this again
Speaker 3: is about nineteen ninety five, he looked at me, did
Speaker 3: not even respond, turned and walked away. And I never
Speaker 3: worked on the CBS Morning News or CBS This Morning.
Speaker 3: Ever again after that, So that's the veteran meteorologist who
Speaker 3: wrote wrote climate Gate. Then there was Eco Tyranny, and
Speaker 3: I was inspired to write Ecocharity from some of your books. Ecotyranny, UH,
Speaker 3: exposing and defeating their war on life, ecotarranny. I need
Speaker 3: to know the oh, how the left, how the left's
Speaker 3: green agenda, how the left's green agenda will dismantle America.
Speaker 3: True inspiration from you on many of our conversations on
Speaker 3: the radio when I wrote that, and then climate called
Speaker 3: exposing and defeating their war on life, liberty and property.
Speaker 2: Well, if these are you know, we have to make
Speaker 2: a combined effort to get these messages a cost. No
Speaker 2: one book is going to do it, no one speech.
Speaker 2: It's a matter of testing people and saying, look, these
Speaker 2: ideas don't work, these ideas are bad science. These ideas
Speaker 2: are a cult. They're not they're not climate science. These
Speaker 2: are important concepts, and it takes a it's going to
Speaker 2: take years to beat this. But this these are, you know,
Speaker 2: the various formations of a desmet calls it mass formation.
Speaker 2: It's also kind of like a group hypnosis or the
Speaker 2: madness of crowds. Another one from McKay was a great
Speaker 2: book on that, and it's it's kind of like you wonder,
Speaker 2: why did people get in their minds that women were
Speaker 2: witches and burn them.
Speaker 1: At the stake.
Speaker 2: It seems like a fairly crazy idea, but yet it
Speaker 2: was very popular for a long time. Yes, and you
Speaker 2: know that's again I think some of the the problems
Speaker 2: that we've got in terms of constant reinforcing of the
Speaker 2: themes and coming back to it. And I commend you
Speaker 2: for writing this book. I commend all three of your books.
Speaker 2: I recommend all three of them. I think I have
Speaker 2: your previous two books in my collection. Now I'm adding
Speaker 2: this third, and I've got large collection of books on
Speaker 2: climate and I value yours. Where can people reach you, Brian?
Speaker 3: There is the Brian Sussman Show podcast. You can also
Speaker 3: to reach out to me. If you'd like to contact
Speaker 3: me via email. Just go to Briansussman dot com, Brian
Speaker 3: with an I Susman, s Ussme and Briansussman dot com
Speaker 3: and there's a contact button and I respond to my emails.
Speaker 3: So I look forward to hearing from your listeners and
Speaker 3: your viewers and doctor Coursy. I really appreciate you. I
Speaker 3: appreciate all of your hard work, your tireless effort. You
Speaker 3: are an absolute writing machine. I don't know how you
Speaker 3: do the research you do, but I've always been encouraged
Speaker 3: by your books and really been inspired by your your
Speaker 3: dedication to you know these various themes.
Speaker 1: Well, it's.
Speaker 2: A plan to continue and to work with others like
Speaker 2: yourself who we will win this battle. I always say
Speaker 2: in the end, God always wins. God will win here too,
Speaker 2: good And as long as I'm around to continue, I
Speaker 2: plan to keep going right on, right on. We need
Speaker 2: you and well we need you to Brian, and thank
Speaker 2: you for writing this book. And I look forward to
Speaker 2: reading this book in more detail and we'll recommend it
Speaker 2: on a show to others.
Speaker 3: Perfect.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, and we'll wrap up today. This
Speaker 2: is doctor Drome Corsi. This is the Truth Central dot Com.
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us in this interview with Brian
Speaker 2: Sussman and his new book on climate cult. Please get
Speaker 2: a copy and we will be bad tomorrow God b
Speaker 2: Thank you,