Speaker 1: We'll start Toyota Presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's go from a championship backfield to your morning driven'sday.
Speaker 3: Hester and Hester got.
Speaker 4: A fat pa.
Speaker 1: You're locked in to off the Bench to troll live
from the Mercedes Benz of Baton Rouge Studio. Here's Jacob
Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 5: Wait, what's wrong with your mic?
Speaker 2: Well, that Mike's terrible, But.
Speaker 5: No, Jake's Mike.
Speaker 2: It's not it, Mike check.
Speaker 5: He's like the most TV thing that's ever happened.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that wasn't your fault. It was actually this
Mike's fault because my mic fell out, knocked his cough
thing off, unplugged it. So it's a roundabout way to
say it was your fault, roundabout way saying this mic
is terrible.
Speaker 7: Right before the show, he goes, let's make radio magic.
Speaker 2: We did it. That doesn't happen too often, it doesn't.
Speaker 5: And also threw me off.
Speaker 4: Yeah me too, because he was a little late off mine. Yeah.
Speaker 8: This TV volume is turned up again, so we can
definitely hear ourselves talking.
Speaker 7: So that might be because we lost power yesterday during a
f r which was fun.
Speaker 5: So that might be why you're hearing the audio out.
Speaker 4: Of the TV lost.
Speaker 5: I guess it was kind of story a little bit.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was a little rain.
Speaker 5: I mean there was some heavy lightning.
Speaker 4: Okay, sad.
Speaker 8: So unplugged microphone feedback from the TV back here.
Speaker 4: Flynn was out late for the YO.
Speaker 2: Good thing.
Speaker 8: This is week zero, not week one. Well, that's still
kind of our preseason.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 6: A microphone is ready right here, but then all of
a sudden, it's got a mind it tone is just
sometimes just swings away, little loose.
Speaker 2: The old joints are loose.
Speaker 8: Yeah, if we you know, if you see these buttons
up here, you can't see them listeners.
Speaker 4: But we have buttons up here.
Speaker 2: We have.
Speaker 8: A golf button for Mike two, Mike three, that's what
we're on, and a dump button as well. So when
Flynn says the S word like you did not that
long ago, we can hit it and it doesn't go
over air. The problem is those work for about a week. Yeah,
they don't work back in twenty eighteen. If you hit
it now, I'm pretty sure the dump button will take
us all off air, Lisa.
Speaker 2: That's what they told us, right, it's gonna take us
off air.
Speaker 8: So we've had these huge, cough drop boxes up here
that take up a lot of space get knocked down
daily by multiple people.
Speaker 4: And you can see Flynn's holding his up there overhead.
Speaker 8: Yeah, instead of just maybe I don't know, fixing the buttons.
Speaker 6: That would be smart. It's an electrical wire though. It's tough.
Speaker 8: I don't know who you call right call him, I'll
call him. I'll text them electrical shoot him. They're worried
about generators right now. Gulf of America's heating up. Yeah,
I'll send him a voice message. I like a good
voice message.
Speaker 2: Do you do you voice message?
Speaker 4: Certain people?
Speaker 2: Are you eighty?
Speaker 5: It's my voice message all the time.
Speaker 4: It's mainly.
Speaker 8: Our foot our old NFL teammate football group chats.
Speaker 2: Situation. Okay, why do you did.
Speaker 4: You get real redneck when you get in there? You
just you know, I'm already got some most tendencies.
Speaker 2: But you don't like it. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just never like really thought about the voice text.
I just kind of tied it so much easier, all right, I.
Speaker 7: Guess, especially if you're saying something that needs a lot
of explanation, or if it's like a long story.
Speaker 5: I voice a voice message all the time.
Speaker 6: What they say, I feel was easy. Everybody would do it.
I don't do it.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to send you a voice message.
Speaker 6: So it's like, see, all right, So okay, we're talking
about like voice, like recorded voice.
Speaker 2: We're not talking about like I.
Speaker 6: Do the type both. What do you call that speech
like when you speak it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I got it, all right.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that it really is what it is.
I don't do that, but I voiced Okay.
Speaker 2: That's what I was saying, Like, that's what if you're eighty,
you do that?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Aying wrong with that?
Speaker 7: I do bo That's yeah, that's an that's an older
tendency to do the text to talk.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 8: I'm forty, guys, I'm old. I told you it took
me a good minute to get up here.
Speaker 2: From this story. It is like the New thirty eight.
Speaker 4: It's just a way, you know, just quickly get your
message in.
Speaker 6: I don't you did look whipped when you walked through
that door. You looked like those stairs whipped your tail.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I wasn't just the stairs just getting out of the car.
Speaker 7: Time stairs whipped me this morning too, and the car
did just getting.
Speaker 2: You work out a lot.
Speaker 5: Yes, in the morning.
Speaker 2: You get the blood flow going.
Speaker 4: Uh, people inside to bue for chat. Let me know.
Speaker 8: Is it an old man tendency to the voice voice
text say fella hey.
Speaker 6: Okay, maybe not that maybe not the recorded part I'm
talking about that where you speaking and it types it
out for you and then you have to like say
exclamation mark period.
Speaker 8: Oh if I'm driving, question mark. So basically, don't get
in the car with you.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm safe. It can wait.
Speaker 6: You listen to the slogan absolutely, I'm tuned into talk
radio and I'm in driving around.
Speaker 2: M or audio books?
Speaker 4: Can you smell colors?
Speaker 5: Do you dream in cartoons?
Speaker 8: I don't know, man, Yeah, so you know, I sorting
think you can. That's a good audio book you've listened
to lately.
Speaker 2: From finishing up the last book in the Terminal List series?
Speaker 8: Jack Carr, Oh, yeah, it's great with another season of
that on on the Old two?
Speaker 6: Are they are they really? I was wondering that is
it gonna be? What's Chris Pratt? He's he coming back?
It's a prequel? Oh, which is the first one?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: That means I couldn't sign him. No, he's in it too,
is he? Yeah, he's in it. It's just a prequel.
I don't think there's that, so that's gonna go off book.
So there's not a book out there that's a prequel.
It all starts with the terminal List and everything's afterwards.
Speaker 2: Uh uh uh huh. They're really good.
Speaker 6: They're really kind of scary too, like what you think
about because it takes like actual things that are happening
in the world, actual current events, and like basically talks
about that from a military Navy seal standpoint, talks about Aiah,
talks about China. So it takes all the stuff. It
makes the storyline that's like, yeah, this gut actually happen
and it's pretty terrifying. Yeah, but he's there to say today.
James Reith.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a great show. That's very good.
Speaker 8: Let's see you got some activity here in the chat,
bram Bo.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm trying to find where your original question was.
Speaker 8: All right, folks say this is BK's best roster. The
twenty twenty three roster had four first round picks on offense.
Who outside of Nuts and maybe Cayden, are the four
first rounders on this offense brand Bo. I'll remind you
about this, just like I talked about with recruiting rankings.
First round picks are awesome. It tells you you know
a lot about talent. For sure. Two thousand and six
we had four first rounders. Two thousand and seven we
had won. Two thousand and six won a Sugar Bowl,
and seven won a national championship. So it doesn't mean
maybe the high end talent, but in the totality of
a roster, it can still be more talented from top
to bottom, from one to eleven, from one to twenty two.
That's I think what people are talking about, because we
had Jimmies and Joe's and six you had JaMarcus, you
had larn, you had Deebo, you had Buster. You just
had Putt. If I'm not mistaken, in O seven right,
first round pick, so I think it goes Glenn, and
then I think I was the next one. And I
think no Chevis. Chevis was the pick before me. He
was sixty eight. I think I was sixty nine. I
think Early was right after us all in the third round.
So Jason was the next year, right, Tyson was the
next year. So I mean I get what you're saying,
but also I think the talent is spread amongst the
entire team, where that team that you're talking about, you
had super high end talent, but from you know, one
to twenty two or one to thirty of the guys
that were going to play that wasn't maybe the same situation.
Speaker 6: Well, he had one of the worst defenses in the country,
a historically bad defense, So you can't. I mean, it
doesn't matter if you had ten first rounders in the
on the offensive side the ball that year, you still
would have had the same record because we scored at
a clip that all that was dang near ninety percent,
probably every time we touched the ball at certain points
during the season. So like when they say it's the
best roster, we would probably sit here and agree with
you because this is the year where there are no
more excuses for Brian Brian Kelly and that staff of
why if you don't make the playoffs. There are no
because they have filled in all the gaps that had
been question marks, So all the weak parts that we've had,
all the things that we've had to overcome from a
coaching standpoint and a schematic standpoint, and the woes that
we faced with the Matt House project, those have all
been at least on paper and what we think have
been rectified. And we from top to bottom from the
entire when you look at all eleven players on defense,
all eleven players on offense, from top to bottom, there
are way less weaknesses than he's had.
Speaker 8: And like, well, Branbo's like, well, both teams went ten
and two O six and O seven. He said, I
believe six COBEATO seven. Hey, Brandbo. The crazy part about it,
as I was just starting running back on both those team,
how are we going to do that? So I don't know,
We're going to be in two places at one time.
Be tough. Defense two thousand and seven defense was so nasty,
so nasty, and like, I know who's on six as well,
I'm not getting I'm I'm you can just kindly disagree
with that there, h And also ten and two was
the record that it took to win a national championship
in O seven, it wasn't in No.
Speaker 2: Six.
Speaker 8: Everybody in the country had losses. Not in regulation for
us though. Remind people about that.
Speaker 4: The whole point is count you lose four first round picks.
Speaker 8: But just like seven with this one, like from top
to bottom, I feel like like you had more talent.
Like another thing, like our quarterback in seven. Sure he
smells colors, but he played almost a decade in the NFL,
So like we could have, I could. I could bring
up a lot of different arguments on this, like over
and over and over again. The whole point is when
people say that, that's why they say it because Taylor,
I'll throw this to you.
Speaker 4: You go to practice more than any of us.
Speaker 8: Are they more talented at safety this year than they
were in twenty twenty three?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 4: Are they better overall at linebacker?
Speaker 2: Yes? Definitely.
Speaker 4: What about I like.
Speaker 6: Your point you made the other day about the safeties,
Like the guys that are guys.
Speaker 9: Back up the guys you had to start last year,
Like Jardon Gilbert's not even playing safety anymore. That's how
deep you are. He started every game at safety four
a year ago. So the guys that are backing up
this year are the guys we had to rely on
last year. Yep, which is which is Great's got the experience,
but that also means we've brought in more talent at
those positions.
Speaker 8: And look, I think because of who you've brought in,
the expectation has gone up, and also the pressure has
gone up, Like it's a good problem to have to
be able to have the conversation of is this the
most talented roster that this coaching staff has had, which
they've said it. It's been the coaches who have said
it and a lot of media members. That means that
the expectation should go up. So you can be angry
if they don't have a successful season.
Speaker 4: You should be angry.
Speaker 8: They went out and they put a lot of resources
into this roster. They went and tried to find where
they were deficient, and they tried to add as much
as they possibly could. Right, you lost a tight end
in the second round, you go add two tight ends.
You go lose an offensive lineman early in the first round,
and in fact you ended up losing four. And you
go and you bring multiple offensive linemen in. You had
to upgrade the safe position, right, you upgraded at the
corner position. You didn't got multiple corners out of the portal.
You went and got some defensive tackles. Like you where
you lost, you tried they.
Speaker 2: Did what they had to do.
Speaker 6: If they didn't do those things, there would be a
lot of questions because you knew the pieces you had
coming back on offense. So they went out into the
off after the season, they went to the off season
and into the portal and didn't hit, Like we would
be having a lot different conversation about right now about
like the like it was a different type of pressure
that the staff would be feeling.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 6: Now there's pressure now because you got the pieces. This
is the good pressure. Like if that didn't happen, if
you didn't go get sure of safety edge wresser, like
all these like if you didn't do that, yeah, like
we'd be talking about like what are we doing? Yeah,
but like now you did all the right things. You
did the right things, you got your defensive coordinator, and
now like now the pressure is all good. Like you
a lot to lose if you don't hit those marks.
But this is what you come to LSU for. This
is what Scott makes a really good point of the
chat too, like which team had a better star oh
six or seven? Oh yeah, who's better at that star position?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 8: Actually, actually you're trying to be funny, you're trying to
we actually had one that was kind of a star
Harry Coleman.
Speaker 2: Well, I can't remember. Mm hmmm, I don't know.
Speaker 4: He played safety in linebacker?
Speaker 2: What'd you say, who's the safety? Hey, Harry, what position
you play?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, well shoe.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 9: Talking yourself, actually thinking a Harry Coleman started at linebacker
next season?
Speaker 2: Change positions, all right? Cool.
Speaker 6: It's like saying, oh, last year I played left guard,
this year, I'm playing right guard.
Speaker 2: You didn't play star guard.
Speaker 8: The best of all the things that we talk about,
all the foolishness that we have here, when I'm out
in the wild this week, the one thing people want
to talk about is the star position.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it, because we talk about a.
Speaker 5: Lot of the bush touch.
Speaker 2: Shockingly chockingly, not the bush toes.
Speaker 6: We talk about a lot of dumb things and a
lot of smart things too. But you know, I just
don't understand when people try to like make football like
harder than this, sound more educated, like they say things
that just sound really cool when talking about a simple thing.
Speaker 2: And so what makes me passionate?
Speaker 6: Who There's only so many places in line up, there's
only so many body types, there's only so many positions
on the football field. I don't have to make anything up.
You know, over one hundred years after football started and
try to normalize it.
Speaker 8: I love my guy Brambo. He's always in the chat.
He is really wanting to have this conversation. He just
put Laron Landry's name in the chat. Lron was a dog.
What's crazy is the first round pick? Well, it's crazy
though he got replaced.
Speaker 2: Safety out of LSU.
Speaker 8: You got replaced the next year by an All American
and Craig stollns So I was like, we can run
in the circle. Craig played seven years in the NFL.
So anyways, we love you, Brambo, and thanks for the
conversation starter.
Speaker 4: We appreciate that.
Speaker 8: We'll take a break and get this thing started when
we come back on one O four five.
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Speaker 1: From players to legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown LSU football.
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Speaker 2: Who is this?
Speaker 5: I just looked up Josey in.
Speaker 7: This is like there's somebody else I don't know featuring.
Speaker 5: The feature doesn't say it's featuring anybody.
Speaker 4: I guess back then you just kind of had some
backup vocals.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, they do like they do like a
little dance and then they found their way back to
the microphone.
Speaker 4: Then they did a little dance a little bit, and you.
Speaker 2: Know, like behind the Temptations did not like that.
Speaker 4: You know, that was different.
Speaker 8: That was like you do a whole like routine spin,
then you found your way back to the microphone. This
is kind of like a backup singer that does like
a small little shimmy because they don't have the moves
of the Temptations stylistics.
Speaker 4: But then they find their way back to the microphone.
So shut to the stylistic.
Speaker 8: Uh Yo, Jake and Matt curious if y'all have ever
gotten the opportunity to receive a card in either football
game's Ultimate Team.
Speaker 4: It's like college football Madden situation.
Speaker 2: I don't know, no idea receive the card.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like you have like an ultimate team and like
you you buy a pack and it's like like like
we do but in real life, but the pack gets
ripped in your boom car and you can play with
that player.
Speaker 2: Oh sweet.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I know. I was in Madden
two years ago.
Speaker 8: It was very cool to be there because they it
was before the college game came back out, and there
was like an all LSU team on the Madden and
I was on that and they gave me like six,
six or eight I can't remember free copies of the game.
So like all my boys at the game, and I
thought I did think that the boys thought we're going
to think it was a little bit cooler than they
actually did.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, where's Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 6: Did you not have my address or anything? I didn't
get I don't think I got one of those copies.
Speaker 8: It was digital actually, so it had been much easier
just to send you the code. Do you even have
a system to place it? I gave t Bob one,
I sure do, do you?
Speaker 6: I got so last year about the PS five when
the NCAA football game came out, but I hadn't bought
the new one yet. Trying to contemplate. Yeah, that sound's
kind of about Fortnite right now.
Speaker 4: So I gave t bub one.
Speaker 2: Well that makes sense.
Speaker 8: I don't know they used it, but I gave it
to him.
Speaker 2: I feel like he played that game quite a bit,
that's true. But no, I didn't even know what that was.
That'd be cool.
Speaker 6: I don't even know if they got a card. Understand,
Jake definitely needs to have one for sure. Not a
lot of fullbacks out there.
Speaker 4: Nah uh no.
Speaker 8: Nation Today, Hester sent strays to JaMarcus and Laurn announced
that the coming It's not straight. It's letting you know
that just because somebody didn't go in the first round
doesn't mean they weren't a great player. Flint didn't go
to the seventh round. Great player Steuts didn't go to
the fourth round because he he collar.
Speaker 4: Bone in the National Championship game.
Speaker 8: Either way, great player Craig was like a team captain
for the Chicago Bears. So it's kind of like I
talk about with stars. Don't allow just because you weren't
drafted in a certain round to the fine who you
are as a football player. It's my whole point. So
obviously Jay Russ one of the best to ever do it.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 6: It's kind of like like which who had the better
high school football team? You know, we'll never know, but
it's fun. It's fun to talk about it, fun to
argue about it. Seven were just full of a bunch
of guys, you know, maybe not as flashy.
Speaker 8: I played the same position on both teams, So I'm
not like, yeah, trying to pick one or the other.
I'm just letting it out that seven the talent was
spread differently than it was six.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And you got to think, like if I was
the holder for both teams, So like if I I'd
have to go out on the when they when they
score against us the seven team, and I have to
go out and hold, I would watch the hold, I'd
run backwards and throw it in then out of the
end zone for two points for seven. Do you got
to think about those things? Seven was just full of
a bunch of guys, maybe not flashy, but a lot
of guys that last a while in the NFL.
Speaker 2: You just could get rid of us.
Speaker 8: We're talking about Curtis Taylor, vested NFL veteran on the seventeen.
Speaker 4: Dad Dan McCrae played all the years.
Speaker 2: He might still be playing your thirty four.
Speaker 8: It might be running down kickoff for the Cowboys right now,
but yeah, Al actually might still be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think which is wild?
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, Brandon, I'm with you. Twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 8: That's that's the best football team that didn't win a
national championship.
Speaker 6: Maybe ever, I don't know if that's on them either.
Maybe not run powered on toss.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 4: It was like a version of hornballs. I don't know
what they ended up calling it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe put maybe put Jay Lee in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just don't do what you did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just across the fifty.
Speaker 6: Remember that tea ball was sitting here trying to argue
all that with this one time, going back and forth,
I say, hey, but I just cross the fifty.
Speaker 2: Shoot, uh.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Joa is one personal line, dra like I was
today's Yeah, Cisco Desmond said, Cisco's the lead singer of Jodas.
You know, Cisco's lead singer of Drew Hill, which we'll
play some Drew Hill coming back. How about that so
you can tell the difference who's the lead singer Drew Hill?
Cisco long song?
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not Drew.
Speaker 4: No, there's nobody named Weird.
Speaker 2: That's not a person's name. Uh huh band.
Speaker 7: Do you all remember that rap group from like a
long time, like the twenty tens. It was not a
long time ago, No, it was in high school. It
was three guys and the rap group was called Travis Porter,
and everybody for like the longest time thought it was
one guy, but it was.
Speaker 5: Do you remember Taylor so.
Speaker 7: Shocked that Taylor knows remember that I don't know Travis
Porter made it out to Livingston.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, bare Just apparently Travis Order is the name.
Speaker 5: Of a that's.
Speaker 4: That's a stupid group.
Speaker 2: Alright, right, I would tend to agree. All right, Well
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Orleans Saints. Ross, we appreciate time as always, sir, Hope
you're doing well this week.
Speaker 3: Hey man, absolutely, thanks for grabbing me on glad to
be here with you, so ross.
Speaker 8: Typically, whenever you know you go and grab a weapon
via trade, we're like, okay, well you got you know,
Blank quarterback a new weapon. The problem is we still
don't know who Blank is for the New Orleans Saints.
But whoever Blank is, the Saints went and got him
a new weapon yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and a big bodied one, which I think is
the big value here, whether it's for Spencer Ratler or
whether it's for Tyler Schuck. Getting a guy that's six
foot four, six foot five, two hundred and ten plus
pounds in Devon Valley from the Denver Broncos is a really,
I think a positive move for New Orleans. Like I
don't think this is a guy that comes in and
immediately becomes your number one, number two wide receiver, of course,
but certainly somebody that can be you know, really helpful
for these young quarterbacks. Called seventy five point nine percent
of the passes that went his way over his thirteen
games last year, you know, not just a really good
success rate when targeted as well. This is just the
guy that seems to be able to come down with
a football when it's thrown to him, And I think
that's something that you're really looking forward to from one
of these young quarterbacks to have that sort of bigger body,
wide receiver target to help them.
Speaker 2: Move the chain west.
Speaker 6: Do you see this move coming in light of maybe
these some of the tight end injuries we've had, And
now you look at Devon Vele He's played in Denver
last year nearly seventy percent of usnaps from the slot,
so he can kind of take that position of over
the middle whip routes in the flat like that big bodied,
just nice person like, nice easy target to hit, like
kind of taking that place of a tight end. Is
that kind of like a kind of what we what
the Saints are thinking about their tight end position right now.
Speaker 3: I think it's a part of it. I think that
the injuries there certainly have a big impact. I mean,
you know, you look at guys like Jack Stole as
well as you know the guys that are behind Juwan
John and Jack Stole, Treated Wealth, you know, Steph Green,
Michael Jacobson, some of these guys have some real good
past catching ability. I mean, Treating Welsh is a former
wide receiver for instance. But you know, it's really been
Juwan Johnson that's been the focus at that position in
the in the past catching department. And then I think
that the other part on top of that too is
you know, you look at the wide receivers that have
stood out so far, Chris olave, Rashiski, Brandon Cooks, Mason Tipton.
All those guys are under six with two, right, and
all the guys that they had are have rather that
are six foot two or above. You know, buve means
with the injured reserve, you've got Kevin Austin Junior, Dante Pettis,
you know, you've got Donovan. People shown they haven't necessarily,
you know, blown lid off here with the opportunities that
they've gotten. Dante Pettis has been the best performer out
of all those, but he's not necessarily a jump ball
guy either, right, And so I think that a guy
like Devon Bailey kind of comes in and fills or
brings that prototype that the things didn't have at the
position as well. So I think it's a little bit
of just really looking at the pass catchers as a whole,
as an entire group, and looking for what isn't available,
And one thing that the thing didn't have was a
six foot four, two hundred and ten pound guy that
runs a four four seven that can go out there
and be, you know, a real first down converter for you,
a third down converter for you, excuse you, excuse me,
and you know, a possession guy that can still be
a three level threat. They didn't have that guy, and
and so this is kind of the player that fills
that void across the wide receiver and tight end room.
Speaker 8: Now you gave up, you know, some pretty good assets,
certainly the fourth round here, that's certainly something. But I'm
still surprised Vailey was available. Like when you go back
and you kind of listen to some of the practice
supports for the Denver Broncos, like this is somebody that
they talked a lot about and it's not like, you know,
he is a player that hasn't proven anything. I mean,
he has over four hundred yards receiving just a year ago.
And this is a player that it felt like they
were really excited about. And so I know, you give
up a fourth rounder, which again that is certainly you
know some draft capital that that means something.
Speaker 4: But I'm surprised he was available.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. But it goes to show you just
how good that wide receiver room is over in over
in Denver right now. I mean, they just resigned Courtland Sutton.
They've got more talent at that position as well. They
drafted Pat Bryant from I think he's from Syracuse, remember correctly, Yeah,
I think it's from Syracuse. A guy that I really
liked the draft this past year, and he's been standing
out quite a bit, and so I think that that
kind of is a little bit of what made him available,
even a player that has been as you know, successful
as him to be able to come in and do that.
He was the team's third leading wide receiver last year
at four hundred and seventy five receiving yards. He had
three touchdowns as well, and so I think that, like
all of those things kind of combined are a big
part of the you know, I don't know the reason
why maybe he was able to be made available based
on what maybe some of that other talent is in
that room.
Speaker 6: Let's kind of get the crystal ball out kind of
explained to the listeners about what the impacts are with
the moves that they've made, you know, this year and
certainly last year as well. What what impact they're going
to have on the twenty twenty sixth draft. I mean,
I'm looking now, I think there's five. We have five
picks right now that our own, first, second, third, fifth,
and sixth. I believe a seventh rounder was traded and
the move for Divine Godchild the fourth round. Of course,
for this move, I believe there's a potential of a
compensatory fourth round for Pauls and a Deebo signing a
free agency But we could lose that, right if Isaac
Goatdam or is it Yadam?
Speaker 2: It starts for most of the year.
Speaker 3: Yeah them, yeah, yeah, yeah, that yeah, that's yeah, that's
that's that's all. I always remember it. I'm always like
the autum the yeah. I think that's That's a big
part of it too, is you know, they might have said,
you know what, we might get this a story fourth
round pick, and so you know, could make this move,
but there's there's still a you know, a great chance
that they don't get that because it is going to
be the starting corner, as you mentioned, and so know
it's very unlikely I guess that they cash in on that.
But I also think if you look at their history
over the course of the past ten drafts. For those
years they didn't select in the fourth round at all,
So they've consistently kind of used that. It's forty percent
of the time, forty percent of drafts they've used that
fourth round pick to move around or make a move
as opposed to actually make a selection. And then if
you look at sort of the six players that they've
drafted before or yeah, before this draft, right, Danny Stutsman
and Quincy Riley. We believe those guys are going to
be good football players. But then you kind of go
and you expand that out to you know, Nick Saldeveri,
and you know Jig Hayter and Rick Leonard and you
know CJ. Garter Johnson was a get. But you know,
you look at those six players that are out there,
and there's maybe a pair of them that you go like, oh,
those were solid picks for the time that they were
in New Orleans.
Speaker 2: CJ.
Speaker 3: Garter Johnson and David on Jimata, And that's going back
quite a way for both those guys now. And so
I think that there's sort of that other piece too,
to where yeah, they were able to walk away with
two really good fourth round picks we believe in this
year's draft, but this year draft was notably, really really
strong in the middle of the draft. We don't know
what next year's draft looks like yet, but the Saints
do because they've been scouting those guys for years at
this point, right, and so I wonder how much of
it is the Saint's also acknowledging that, hey, this is
what can be exchanged for fourth round pick right now
could be more valuable than what that fourth round pick
might be able to be you just used or turned
into in next year's draft.
Speaker 8: So ross obviously, like you know, the conversation is still
going to surround you know, the quarterback position until we
actually know who the starter is going to be. But like,
we are not that far away from the Saints and
Cardinals in real action, no more. Preseason we've seen both
quarterbacks start games. A couple of questions here, how do
you think they play the third preseason game? And then
when do you ultimately think they're going to name their
starting quarterback?
Speaker 3: Yeah, tough to predict what they're going to do in
the third preseason game, but I imagine that the focus
is going to be maybe get some of the starters
out on the field. Kellen Morris kind of hinted that
some of the veterans that haven't gotten an opportunity to
get out there kind of fence this year a little
bit said, Hey, I'd really like some, you know, game exposure,
and so I'm curious if he's going to give them that.
You know, in Wednesday's practice in the Superdome, they kind
of ran this ones versus two's kind of scrimmage to
where two started off defending a seven point lead against
the number one offense. The number one offense is out
there in full in terms of who is healthy, right,
Dylan ragentsin for chart of pinning in this case, and
then you know that that was kind of the scrimmage
that they ran, and to me that sort of indicated, okay, well,
maybe they are getting ready to give some of these
starters a opportunity to be able to go out there
and perform as a starting unit. They kind of dress
rehearsal that we hear about all the time in the
FINTAL preseason game to see if they kind of go
you know, that route there, and so I think that
that might be what we see. And if I'm the Saints.
I give both quarterbacks sometime with that first team, but
I don't know, like that might not be pop right,
Does that screw up rhythm? Does that risk too much injury?
Things like that. But it feels like at this point
there's only a couple of things left to kind of
learn about these guys, and one of those things is
what do they look like with the full first team
unit in a gaming situation? And so how do you
create that environment? Maybe going drive for drive might be
you know, insufficient in terms of all the other things,
but it feels sufficient for what you need for the
quarterback battle. So we'll see how they handle it though,
And then as for announcing the starting quarterback, I don't know,
though there's a lot of value in hiding it, you know,
in terms of going up against the Arizona Cardinals Week
one and everything, like you're already so much a mystery
going into that game one way or another as a
newly led head coach, newly you know, new quarterback. All that,
like all the newness is still kind of going to
work in your favor anyway, And so I would say probably,
like if I were making the decision, I'm going to
announce it would probably be that, you know, sometime in
that week when there's availability after that prefeat game. But
you know, I'm going back and talking to the team first.
I'm talking to the quarterbacks first. I'm talking to the
coaching staff first. We're making that decision in house, and
then I'll take it out to the media. I'm not
in a hurry to you know, show up postgame and
do it. That's the one thing I definitely wouldn't do.
Speaker 2: Ross do all the quarterbacks warm up with the rugby ball.
Speaker 3: So the rugby balls have been around for since Keith
Williams came in. They're they're a training tool for the
pass catchers, and so the rugby ball is what they
do is that you kind of throw them to the
receivers for a little while and then get them used
to the size of the rugby ball, and then they
throw the football to them, which is much smaller. It
makes the football team much smaller than it is, and
so that's part of the way that they kind of
keep warm on the sideline sometimes too, And with Jake
Hayner being the guy that was on the sideline during
that game, he was out there throwing the rugby balls
to those pass catchers.
Speaker 6: So having like some QB guru back home, that's like,
all right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they've been they've been doing the rugby balls
for a little while. Now for the for the past catchers. Now,
what I don't know is have they you know, did
Scott told you to see that and go, oh, you
know that would be great to kind of get the
hands ready for you know, the quarterbacks too, and then
kind of like did that way. But you know, at
some point somebody's got to throw that thing to those
receivers in order for that drill to work. So I imagine
that that's probably where Ross.
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, man, I would hate throwing that ball.
That would that would screw me up so bad. But
I get it from like a pass catcher's there. But
but but Jake Hayter Man, he's all in, dude, he is.
He's feeling he is feeling it with a rugby ball.
All right, finish this sentence for me. My name is
Kellen Moore. I sit down to press conference and I say, okay, guys,
it's over. Quarterback battle is over. We've made our decision.
We're going to throw the full way to this organization.
We are ready to announce the starter, and this starter is.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be consistent with what I've said from the
very beginning, and I'm going to say that the starter.
Speaker 6: Is Tyler Schuck.
Speaker 3: I think if they were gonna name Spencer Rattler the starter,
they had their opportunity to do it. After he let
that big comeback, you know, game tying drive against the
Jacksonville Jaguars. They had their opportunity to do that. This
to me feels like they're giving both of these guys
every opportunity, and the guys that the guy that's going
to benefit from getting bored opportunity is the rookie that's
going to grow at a more exponential rate for his
first year. And so so I'm gonna I'm gonna say
Tyler Shuck. I would personally put Spencer Ratler out there,
but I think that this organization wants Tyler Shuck to
be out there, and they're gonna throw their full weight
of the organization behind that.
Speaker 4: All right, there, he is our gull.
Speaker 3: That's my prediction.
Speaker 2: That's what it's going to be.
Speaker 4: Yea, you have it stamp guarantee boom from Ross.
Speaker 2: Breaking breaking.
Speaker 4: All right, Ross, we appreciate it. Check out Ross's word
Louisiana Sports dot Net.
Speaker 8: I'll you know, host of the Lockdown Saints podcast as well,
but obviously has the Saints covered on the website. Again
Louisiana Sports dot Net. Ross, we appreciate it as always, sir,
Thank you guys.
Speaker 6: You take care of safe.
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4: All right, man, there we go.
Speaker 2: So did we get to like was it a good trade?
Speaker 8: I mean, it's fourth round pick, But once he started
like listening all the listening guys they've taken in the
fourth round, I'm like, Ri Bailey's a better player than that.
He's already proven more than those guys outside of CD do.
Speaker 2: So, huh, that's an interesting set. I do like.
Speaker 4: I do like the body type. And I know we
got a break.
Speaker 8: I like the body type that they brought in because
they didn't have a guy like that. Yeah, they had
the same guy four or five times over. So all right,
we'll take a break more OTV close out out number one.
When we come back one of four or five ESPN vetteris.
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Speaker 8: All right, welcome back in O TB one of four
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Speaker 6: I'm always young, guys, I'm always so skeptical in trades.
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all right, so we got to give up this for like,
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Speaker 2: Yeah that's great.
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Speaker 4: He said.
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