WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:07.240 on the iHeartRadio linep. 4 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:10.439 A couple of deaths of politicians. You make your own 5 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:13.640 decision if it's good or bad. Alan Simpson, Republican from Wyoming, 6 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:15.519 served three terms in the Senate, died at the age 7 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:17.440 of ninety three. The reason I put that in there 8 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:22.519 is because he helped pass an immigration reform bill, really 9 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:25.280 the last one we had, which was nineteen eighty six, 10 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:30.879 and he said it was like quote, giving dry birth 11 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:32.200 to a porcupine. 12 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:34.320 Who said that A man said that. 13 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:36.320 Alan Simpson, former Senator. 14 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:41.200 And the other one is Congressman Raoul Grialva out of Arizona, 15 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:42.679 sirt eleven terms in Congress. 16 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:43.880 Died at the age of seventy seven. 17 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:47.000 I don't think I've ever heard a man use a 18 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:53.320 birthing reference, and in such a such a colorful one 19 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:53.600 at that. 20 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:57.600 I'm sure John Kennedy, the Senator out of Louisiana, he's 21 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:01.799 got a very thick accent. He has some pretty colorful euphemisms. 22 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:03.560 I'm sure he's probably got a couple in there, But 23 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:07.799 giant volcano in Alaska is showing signs of an impending eruption. 24 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:12.400 Elevated levels of volcanic gas emissions recently observed around Mount 25 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:16.400 Spur It's about seventy five miles from Anchorage. The Alaska 26 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:20.879 Volcano Observatory said the emissions confirm that new magna magma 27 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:25.200 is flowing beneath the volcano and that indicates a foreseeable eruption. 28 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:27.560 They say, it's Friday. Don't forget what you learned this 29 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:29.640 week on the Gary and Channon Show. We've been spitting 30 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:32.599 mad facts all week. You're damn right, we are, so 31 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:34.599 let us know what it is that you learned this 32 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:37.519 week while learning while listening to the garyan Shannon Chow, 33 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:39.840 you can leave us a talk back on the iHeart app. 34 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:41.879 Amy, I feel like you need to stay for the 35 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:43.879 whole day just to like get us through this. 36 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:47.640 Because Devra's Devra's in here and she's too sad to speak. 37 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:50.640 I know Deborah is not. I love Debora, but I 38 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:55.400 don't feel like she is going to make us feel. Amy, 39 00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:59.359 you have the foremost knowledge on these eagles, so you 40 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:02.920 know there behavior, you know their pattern of behavior. You've 41 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:07.280 gone through several different litters of Eaglitz. You know what 42 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:10.120 goes on now. I have gotten intel from someone who 43 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:15.599 has animals and says that it's not uncommon for one 44 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:20.560 of the parent eagles to rid the nest of our 45 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:21.560 dearly departed. 46 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:25.560 That can happen too. They can leave them or they 47 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:26.680 can remove them. 48 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:30.039 But I go back to my I mean, not that 49 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:32.599 it hasn't happened yet, but if it has happened, or 50 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:35.599 it had happened overnight, we would probably have seen it. 51 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:36.439 Right. 52 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:38.639 This is the actual removal of. 53 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:42.439 But it could have been. I mean, these are big birds, 54 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:44.919 Jackie in shadow. It could have been just like I mean, 55 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:47.120 kind of like when you shut the door with your 56 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:50.240 bottom sometimes when you just you can do a lot 57 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:52.199 of things with that thing. I mean, I've seen you 58 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.080 move things around. I can make money with that thing. 59 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:57.039 You could do that as well. There's a whole lot 60 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:03.120 of money in this mfort. But theoretically, even with night vision, 61 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:06.840 one of these birds could have just the way you 62 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:08.840 move your butt. They could have just done that with 63 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:14.919 their tail feathers and the uh, you know, earth suit 64 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:18.479 is out of the nest because these are just our 65 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:24.520 earth suits, you know that, right, our earth suit Right? 66 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:28.080 The meat casing that we have around our souls right now? 67 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:29.599 Is that what you're exactly? 68 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:32.400 You put it much more eloquently than I could have ever, 69 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:37.159 because the eglid is still with us, this meat. 70 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:39.240 Suit that has become our immortal coil. 71 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:41.599 Is that that's what you're referring to this if this 72 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:43.719 bag of bones, and yeah, it. 73 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:46.719 Doesn't mean anything meats. Can you not. 74 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:50.479 Reference your juices ever? Again? That would be great. That's 75 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:52.280 a little lenten wish I have. 76 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:58.280 Can you go forty days without mentioning your juice? Please? 77 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.159 Forty days? That's all I asked. 78 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.319 I'd like to be in the desert where there are 79 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:13.599 no Jesus. All right, listen, grief makes us all behave differently. 80 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:18.160 Well, yeah, for those who haven't been paying attention, there 81 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:20.959 are supposed to be three eagles in the nest and 82 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:24.040 big bear there as of this morning, appeared to be 83 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:26.319 only two that we can see. 84 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:29.160 But they're happy and they're healthy and they're eating and. 85 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:31.639 It's and it's and it's nature. 86 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:34.160 It's nature, you guys. We knew that this was gonna happen. 87 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:36.399 Was it just a week ago amy that the third 88 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.480 eagle hatched? Wasn't it also Friday, Saturday. 89 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:41.079 It was Yeah, it was over the weekends. 90 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:41.560 Oh was it? 91 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:43.480 Yeah, so he's only been around for a little while. 92 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:45.120 Okay, all right. 93 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:50.160 Again, I am not laughing. 94 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:53.319 There are seventy six thousand people looking at this on 95 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:57.279 YouTube right now. But one of the comments is we 96 00:04:57.319 --> 00:04:59.879 are observers of nature and do not know the entire 97 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.279 of the current situation. We are holding our eagle family 98 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:07.600 in our hearts and sending love to our friends of 99 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:09.639 Big Bear Valley community worldwide. 100 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:11.759 It is a worldwide thing. 101 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:12.120 Yeah. 102 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:14.000 I talked to a friend who I haven't talked to 103 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.759 for like six months last yesterday and I said, hey, 104 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:19.399 have you heard about our eagles? She goes, oh, I 105 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:21.439 watch them all the time. She's like living in northern California. 106 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:22.439 Well, and listen, I'm not. 107 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:29.240 I also completely am drawn in by the idyllic pictures 108 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:33.600 that we've seen from this camera. It's unbelievable that this 109 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:38.439 happens in trees around Big Bear and we get to 110 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:40.600 see it happen on a regular basis, with the snow 111 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:45.240 coming in and the parent eagles doing what parent eagles do. 112 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:48.439 It's just I'm worried about Jackie, you know, and I 113 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:52.959 know that the roles are blurred, but it's notable that 114 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:56.720 the dad is there with the remaining children and that 115 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.920 Jackie is not there doing whatever she needs to do. 116 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:03.879 Why because she's probably sad about this. Wasn't she the 117 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:06.439 one on watch when this Soundles don't do sad. They 118 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:08.240 don't do sad. There's no time, you know. 119 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:12.199 I disagree because again when in years past, when we've 120 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:14.839 seen and want, like I think it was spirits brother 121 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:18.920 or sister died, I mean, after that one died, Jackie 122 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:21.240 would just sit and stare at it. I mean like 123 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:23.680 she was just and I know, but see that she 124 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:27.279 that was her lot, like she remembers that. Probably they're 125 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:31.560 very smart, right, she probably remembers that, and this is 126 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:32.360 bringing it back. 127 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:33.839 I don't know. 128 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:36.879 My head hurts right now. 129 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:41.920 I cannot tell you how much my head hurts. 130 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:42.639 Because you're sad? 131 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:45.759 Is that I don't know how to name my feelings, 132 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:49.240 so I say things like my head hurts, Oh, my 133 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:54.399 chest hurts, it's so tight right now? Why where did 134 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:58.160 you go? What's happening over there? She can't handle it. 135 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:01.800 She's sad. When we come back, Gavin Newsom, guess who's 136 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:08.879 making a guess who's making a bronze bust of Gavin Newsom. Yes, 137 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:13.800 you're right, Gavin Newsom is what absolute arrogance and if 138 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:17.800 he has the power to say no, melt that thing 139 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:19.920 down and turn it into I thought. 140 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:21.920 You were doing a bit. This is a true story 141 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:25.480 of Gavin Usom getting a golden bust bronze. 142 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.279 It wouldn't be gold, it would be bronze. Yeah, and 143 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:32.079 claims that he has no idea, he had no idea 144 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:33.160 that this was being done. 145 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:34.199 Oh, this is asinine. 146 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:38.879 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 147 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:40.000 AM six forty. 148 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:44.319 Well, the judge from Orange County shot and killed his 149 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:48.120 wife after a night of a couple and more pops. 150 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:52.480 Jeffrey Ferguson has gone and done an interview with NBC 151 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:54.079 LA don't do that. 152 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:58.040 Nara, did you under the Oh, I'm sorry, I tease 153 00:07:58.079 --> 00:07:58.399 the GAVI. 154 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:02.519 I'm sorry. Yeah, we'll do that. We'll do the judge 155 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:05.600 thing coming up next. Sorry, I'm not paying attention. 156 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:05.959 Listen. 157 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:07.040 We a lot. 158 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:10.920 I'm lucky you're still here. Usually you leave. It's okay, 159 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:13.480 it's like a free form Friday. You know, there's a 160 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.920 lot of this. Thank you for acknowledging, well. 161 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:18.120 I didn't know there was going to be a death 162 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.120 in the family, and affirm if we don't know, if 163 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:23.000 it's a death, it's just simply a missing. Amy pretty 164 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:25.720 much said that we should not have false hope, is 165 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:29.879 what she said, and I protecting using our feeling. I 166 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:34.000 trust that. Yeah. Is it weird If I like show 167 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:36.960 up at Amy's house this afternoon and her can I 168 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:37.639 stay the night? 169 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:43.279 And she she's very comforted. She broods over you, she 170 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:44.360 sits on you. 171 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:49.000 I kind of did envision like a cuddling situation. That's weird, 172 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:49.799 I know, all right. 173 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:53.279 There's a new book out called Fool's Gold. 174 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:57.240 The Radicals, con artists and traders who killed the California 175 00:08:57.320 --> 00:08:59.279 Dream and now threaten us all. 176 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:02.600 That's quite a name for a book. 177 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:07.000 It's written by Jed McPhatter and Susan Crabtree, and they 178 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:10.840 go after all kinds of politicians in the state of California. 179 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.559 Needless to say, one of their favorite targets is going 180 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:18.919 to be California Governor Gavin Newsom. He has been pointed 181 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:24.600 out for secretly paying for his own monument at San 182 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:27.720 Francisco City Hall to commemorate his time as mayor. 183 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:30.840 We all know the glorious years. 184 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:34.000 Between two thousand and four and twenty eleven when Gavin 185 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:40.360 Newsom was the mayor of San Francisco, married to Kimberly Gilfoyle, 186 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:44.440 who then made some time with Don Trump Junior and 187 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:48.840 is now the ambassador to Greece on behalf of the administration. 188 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:53.600 So the way that they say he did this is 189 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.519 he put together a memorial to his time as mayor 190 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:01.159 with the help of donors, and that he used something 191 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:05.440 called behested payments. We've seen that term before, We've talked 192 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:08.399 about it here in California when it comes to politics. 193 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:14.159 Behested payments are a contribution made by a donor that 194 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:18.879 the politician asks them to make on their behalf. That's 195 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:25.080 like Shannon Farren goes to Chevron and says, could you 196 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:28.519 give five thousand dollars to the friends of Big Bear 197 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:33.159 Valley on my behalf. That way you don't have to 198 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:36.240 use your campaign money. Chevron gets a little bit of 199 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:40.919 a favor in your mind because they're doing something to 200 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:44.200 help you out. The book says that Gavin Newsom showed 201 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.919 three private organizations donated to a nonprofit that was earmarked 202 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:52.440 for mayoral bust at San Francisco City Hall. Two of 203 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.919 those three private organizations are companies that are owned by 204 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:57.879 Gavin Newsom. 205 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:03.000 You guys, this is so embarrassing. Can you imagine paying for, 206 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:06.720 or just knowing that a bust of your likeness was 207 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:10.799 being produced, and that you asked for money to produce 208 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:14.759 said bust, and then it became public that you did that. 209 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:21.480 That is upper echelon embarrassment. That's upper echelon narcissism. 210 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:27.159 Yes, Balboa Cafe Partners and Plump Jack Management Group are 211 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:32.080 the two organizations owned by Gavin Newsom. They donated about 212 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:35.240 ten percent of the total price. It's not a lot 213 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.639 when you look at the whole cost, by the way, 214 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:42.399 ninety seven thousand dollars for this. They donated a combined 215 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:45.440 ten thousand for it. He has also asked that behested 216 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:50.919 payments go towards projects run by his wife, Jennifer Siebel Newsom. 217 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:57.440 The fact that this is allowed a is absolutely crazy. 218 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:00.360 The fact that he continues to do it on a 219 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:05.720 regular basis is insane. And the third most ludicrous aspect 220 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:09.559 of this is that it goes to a bronze bust 221 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:11.320 of himself. 222 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:14.559 How much money is this again? How much money did this. 223 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:18.159 One hundred thousand dollars total? It's not ninety seven thousand. 224 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:26.320 Total thousand dollars for a bust a bust for his 225 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:29.320 time as mayor of the great City of San Francisco. 226 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:32.240 It would go a lot further if he raised ninety 227 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:36.879 seven thousand dollars for someone and gave them like a 228 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.600 life for a year, like you know, you don't have 229 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:42.200 to worry about anything. Let's see like almost like they 230 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:45.159 do in Vallejo or some of those pilot programs where 231 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:48.120 they give people basic incomes and see what they can 232 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:50.039 do when they're not worried about keeping the lights on. 233 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:52.320 If you had it like your own pilot project for 234 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:56.919 your office, and you gave somebody who a mom of three, 235 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:59.279 single mom of three, who's had to just keep the 236 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.200 lights on, if you gave her one hundred thousand dollars 237 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:04.559 to where she could do whatever, whether it's get education, 238 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:07.720 go to work, fulfill a dream, write a book, write 239 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:12.200 a poet, whatever, Like how cool would that be moving 240 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:14.879 forward with your political career? Like this is what happens. 241 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:17.360 And I saw it myself with in my district when 242 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:20.080 we found somebody and she was deserving this money, and 243 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:23.879 we scrambled together ninety seven thousand dollars and we gave 244 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.159 her that luxury of not having to worry about keeping 245 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:29.120 the lights on. And look what she did with that year. Well, like, 246 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.600 I mean, whoa, I would vote for you twice on Sunday. 247 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:38.240 Even if those organizations are doing that stuff, even if 248 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:40.679 they have those great programs that I think would be 249 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:43.399 celebrated by everybody, the fact that they do stupid s 250 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:44.639 like that, right, right. 251 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:48.720 It's all about all absolutely does exactly my point, exactly. 252 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:52.799 This is what you're going to remember, all right. What 253 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:54.320 an enforced error too. 254 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:56.960 For the first time, that judge who stood trial for 255 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:59.799 his wife's murder speaking out. We'll talk about what he says. 256 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:03.360 Jeffrey ferguson what he said actually happened the night that 257 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:04.000 his wife done. 258 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:08.559 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 259 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:09.639 AM six forty. 260 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:13.320 Well, the good judge in Orange County who was not 261 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:15.879 so good when he got drunk, shot and killed his 262 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:19.759 wife after dinner a couple of years ago, has done 263 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:24.279 an interview now with NBCLA. This was the man at 264 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:26.519 the center of a trial that hung. It was a 265 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:30.559 hung jury that deliberated for more hours than it heard 266 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.840 evidence in this case of the judge who went out 267 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:36.159 to dinner with his wife and son, had a couple 268 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:39.600 of pops, came home, got into an argument. He says 269 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.960 it was an accident that the gun that he's legally 270 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:45.440 able to carry went off as he was in the 271 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:50.240 process of putting it away. That was not what prosecutors argued. 272 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:52.960 They argued that they were in a heated argument and 273 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:55.039 he shot and killed her. In fact, he did text 274 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:58.080 his bailiff and his court reporter right after saying I'm 275 00:14:58.080 --> 00:14:59.519 not going to be in tomorrow. I shot my wife. 276 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:03.320 Sorry about that. He invited NBC into his home. 277 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:09.240 I think the lawyers like this. You think his attorney's like, yes, really. 278 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:13.000 Because he already has one hung jury, he drums up 279 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:16.840 more support in his backyard or more sympathy by doing 280 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:19.799 this interview if that's if that is in fact what 281 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:20.320 he did. 282 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:24.240 Yeah, but the hung jury, there was only one person 283 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:27.559 that voted to a quit right for not guilty out 284 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:31.120 of I mean, eleven to one is an overwhelming It's 285 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.639 still a hung jury, but eleven to one is an 286 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:36.879 overwhelming number of people that thought he was. 287 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:40.000 Guilty, right, But like you've said, he's a judge. He's 288 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:42.360 been doing this for thirty plus years. He knows what 289 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:45.759 to say, he knows what not to say. His lawyers 290 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:48.279 know that he knows what not to say to incriminate 291 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:50.840 himself in the process of an interview. I think the 292 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:54.360 only upside is some sympathy from the people who watch 293 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:56.759 the evening news. Who are the people that watch the 294 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:00.279 evening news, retired folks, Folks that are going to have 295 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:02.559 the time to be on a jury the next jury, 296 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:06.200 people that are going to see a like person in 297 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:07.960 him at his age. 298 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:10.519 It's not a bad move. He did say that eleven 299 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:13.960 to one count was a blow to his emotions. 300 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:17.679 Play on people's emotions, look at us with the gd Eagliz, 301 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:19.720 and that it was like being in a Twilight Zone 302 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:22.399 episode where he said, it's like you're snatched out of 303 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:23.240 your reality. 304 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:26.279 You're plunked down without any warning into a completely different world, 305 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.639 and a world that's not particularly friendly to you. 306 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:31.519 That's what happens when you get trigger happy at point 307 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:33.960 two alcohol level and you shoot and kill your wife. 308 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.159 You wake up and go, uh, oh wait, what what 309 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:37.399 did I? 310 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:37.799 Oh? 311 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:39.080 No, well, now this. 312 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:42.080 Part of the problem for him is that the most 313 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:45.240 damning testimony came from his own son, because I guess 314 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:47.679 the sun was at dinner with them. The Fergusons and 315 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:50.399 their son, Philip, went to the restaurant they went to 316 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:55.919 El Cholo earlier in that day. Cheryl left after Jeffrey 317 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:58.759 Ferguson made a hand gesture mimicking a gun during an 318 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:03.879 argument later their home. Philip testified this is the son 319 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:06.640 testified that he heard his mother say something to the 320 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:09.720 effect of why don't you point a real gun at me? 321 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:15.240 And then he told police, and this was on video 322 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:18.960 and became part of the evidence. He told police, I quote, 323 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:21.319 I turned around and he pulls out a gun and 324 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:27.480 aims at her and fires. The account from the judge 325 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:30.880 was he was pulling this glock handgun out of his 326 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:34.720 ankle holster and it accidentally discharged when he tried to 327 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:37.160 put it on a coffee table that was cluttered like 328 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:39.279 he was trying to move stuff out of the way, 329 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:41.319 and put the gun down on the table. 330 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:43.480 Why do you do that. 331 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:46.200 You only put the gun. You only take the gun 332 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:48.200 out of your holster and put it down on a table. 333 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:50.240 During a drug deal with the mafia. 334 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:52.640 If you're right, if you're trying, if you're proving a 335 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:55.160 point he is to use it, that would be one 336 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.160 reason you'd take it out, And the other reason would 337 00:17:57.160 --> 00:17:58.640 be to take it out to intimidate something. 338 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:01.400 She knows he's got it on his ankle. She knows 339 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:02.000 all the time. 340 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:05.119 They you don't not know that about your spouse, especially 341 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:08.039 if he's had a concealed carry permit for twenty years 342 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:12.720 or how how long he had it point oh six, 343 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:15.640 by the way, when it was measured after the shooting, which. 344 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:17.279 Means that when the time of the shooting, that was 345 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:20.200 more like point one point seven, which means at the 346 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:24.720 time of Yeah, I mean, and is that a defense? 347 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:27.319 I always go back to this, I always go back. 348 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:31.039 I'm always a little bit. I come down a couple 349 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:34.240 ways on drunk being a defense or something like this, 350 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:40.160 you know, murder, you know murder because without the drinks 351 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:43.279 you wouldn't have done that, right, But is that okay? 352 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:45.759 That that's your defense? I mean, I always I always 353 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:48.799 go back and forth with this, Well, no way drinking 354 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:51.359 knowing that you could get to the level where you're 355 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:53.920 gonna get you're gonna get into an argument and you 356 00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:56.119 know your personality enough to know you may grab your 357 00:18:56.119 --> 00:18:58.079 gun and make a bad decision. Is that enough? 358 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:00.759 Isn't it funny the way different people respond onto being 359 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:04.039 that drunk. I mean, because some people, some people do 360 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.880 get violent, some people do get argumentative, some people get 361 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:10.880 more arrogant, some people get louder, other people get quieter, 362 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:15.119 like my family generally. I remember the very few times 363 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:17.640 I ever saw my dad over what would be even 364 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:21.960 a slight buzz, he would get happy, and he would 365 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:24.119 smile a lot, and he would laugh at everything. And 366 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:28.440 it was always And I've seen myself get over protective, 367 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:34.079 like an extremely helpful, very helpful. Really, if I tell 368 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:35.839 you a story about Hawaii, I think I told you. 369 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:36.759 I may have told you this. 370 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:39.680 I'll tell you when I come back about I got 371 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:40.759 way too helpful. 372 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:43.480 Oh, I can't wait. I'm excited because when I've seen 373 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:52.079 you overserved, my husband's fault. He's an overserver. You get 374 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:57.119 quiet and smiley dad, sometimes. 375 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:59.799 You, and then there's another gear sometimes you. 376 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:04.440 As you're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from 377 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:06.359 KFI AM six forty. 378 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:08.319 President Trump is going to deliver a law and order 379 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:11.039 speech today. The Justice Department we'll talk about that during 380 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.359 Swamp Watch coming up. Also, the Democratic Party planning a 381 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:17.880 bunch of town hall meetings in Republican held districts in 382 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:21.640 all fifty states that will be coming up. A swatting 383 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:24.480 call about an active shooter triggered a huge police response 384 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:27.519 at Clairemont McKenna last night. This would be a day 385 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:30.880 after a similar false report caused a panic and evacuation 386 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:34.519 at Loma Limit Loma Linda Children's Hospital out in San 387 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:35.519 Bernardino County. 388 00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:38.200 I knew there was something going on with the children 389 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:41.680 with Gene Hackman, and I knew there was something going on, 390 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:46.000 maybe some sort of contentious situation with the new wife, 391 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:49.079 which wasn't really a new wife, Betsy Arakawa. They'd been 392 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:53.119 married for several years since the nineties. I believe she's 393 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:59.160 much younger. She's younger than his son, than his kids 394 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.160 to his with his first wife. It just seemed to 395 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:06.039 something odd. When the bodies were found and the kids 396 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:08.400 right away said it's carbon monoxide, it was like, what's 397 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:11.400 up with that? You haven't been there, that's your first reaction. 398 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:15.160 You're telling reporters this, this is odd. Well, it turns 399 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.680 out that the will, the will tells all, doesn't it. 400 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:23.319 Gene Hackman left his eighty million dollar Hollywood fortune to 401 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:29.119