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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome to Pastor Rick's Daily Hope. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible teaching ministry of Rick Warren. Hey, we're so

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<v Speaker 1>glad you're here with us today. We are continuing in

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<v Speaker 1>a series called Talking about Stuff That Matters Now. In

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<v Speaker 1>this series, Rick looks into the scriptures and he's unpacking

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<v Speaker 1>what it means to live in community, have real conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about what matters most, and face discouragement with courage and faith.

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<v Speaker 1>It's honest, hopeful, So stay tuned. You won't want to

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<v Speaker 1>miss a second. All right, let's get started. Here's part

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<v Speaker 1>one of a message called creating Life Shaping Conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>So much of your satisfaction and success in life is

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<v Speaker 2>determined by how well you communicate with other people. Your income,

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<v Speaker 2>your influence, your family, your career, your relationships. So many

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<v Speaker 2>different areas of your life are all impacted by how

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<v Speaker 2>well you learn two basic communication skills. They all are

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<v Speaker 2>dramatically impacted by number one, learning how to listen well

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<v Speaker 2>and number two learning how to speak well, how to

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<v Speaker 2>communicate your thoughts. If you want to better and better life,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want better and better relationships, then you have

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<v Speaker 2>to keep getting better in these two skills. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to learn to get better at listening, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>have to get learn to get better in speaking. If

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<v Speaker 2>you just get at a certain level and then you

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<v Speaker 2>stop learning how to be a better listener, you stop

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<v Speaker 2>learning how to be a better speaker, then your life

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<v Speaker 2>isn't going to get any better. Your relationships are not

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<v Speaker 2>going to get any better. This is extremely important. So

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<v Speaker 2>today I want us to look at creating life shaping conversations,

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<v Speaker 2>and in that we're going to look at how do

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<v Speaker 2>you listen better so people will speak to you, and

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<v Speaker 2>how do you speak better so people will listen to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you an entire communication seminar in

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<v Speaker 2>this session. You'd go pay five hundred bucks for it

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<v Speaker 2>at some seminar.

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<v Speaker 3>It's free with Rick. Okay, you get it free.

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<v Speaker 2>So then you don't have to spend that five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>bucks on how to be a better communicator. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna look at these things.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna start with the six secrets of great listening. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the book that's the book of all books on communication

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<v Speaker 2>is the Book of Proverbs in the Bible. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>Book of Wisdom, it's the Book of Relationships, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>book of how to do the right thing, the right

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<v Speaker 2>way at the right time in every single area of life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an amazing book, and it has lots to say

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<v Speaker 2>about how you listen, and it has a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>say about how you speak. Now, one of the many

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why God puts you on earth. He didn't just

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<v Speaker 2>create you and take you automatically to heaven. He puts

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<v Speaker 2>you here for a few years, few decades because he

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<v Speaker 2>wants you to learn the skill of learning how to

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<v Speaker 2>listen well. And then he wants you to learn the

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<v Speaker 2>skill of learning how to communicate well, how to speak well. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>can you hear something and not really listen to it?

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<v Speaker 3>Think about that. Can you hear something and not really

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<v Speaker 3>listen to it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's called high school math class. You hear it, wow, wow, wha,

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<v Speaker 2>But you're not listening. And there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>there's a difference between hearing and listening. Everybody hears everything,

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<v Speaker 2>but not everybody is a good listener. So the Bible

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<v Speaker 2>tells us how could be a skilled listener about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five times in the Book of Proverbs, God says, I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to learn how to listen, and we are

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<v Speaker 2>commanded twenty five times to listen well. So we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do a quick overview, a quick survey of some

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<v Speaker 2>of the highlights of the Book of Proverbs on learning

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<v Speaker 2>how to listen well. Six skills in order to listen well,

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<v Speaker 2>and just for fun, I put them in an across

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<v Speaker 2>the lste in. So here's how you listen. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get right into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Number one.

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<v Speaker 2>First thing God says about how to become a great

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<v Speaker 2>listener is ll look at them with love. Whoever you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have your conversation with a child, a spouse,

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<v Speaker 2>a friend, an x, somebody you work with, you look

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<v Speaker 2>at them with eyes of love. It all starts with love.

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<v Speaker 2>Without love, you have no great communication. Look at this

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<v Speaker 2>verse on the screen. The Bible says in one Grindians

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen one, if I could speak with human eloquence, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just a great speaker, an even angelic expression. If

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have love for people, I'd only be making

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<v Speaker 2>noise like a clanging symbol. God says words without love

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<v Speaker 2>equal noise. That if I don't love, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>what the conversation is about, because it's all about learning

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<v Speaker 2>how to love. You could be eloquent. I have you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I train pastors. You know that, And I've had pastors

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<v Speaker 2>all around the world to mean, oh, Rick, I just

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<v Speaker 2>love to preach like they expect me to be excited

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<v Speaker 2>about that, And I say, well, so what. You may

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<v Speaker 2>just like the attention. You might like the adrenaline rush.

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<v Speaker 2>You may be a ham. You like the attention that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody gives you when you're standing up speaking. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care if you love to preach, pastor, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>know do you love the people you preach to. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what makes it count. Because without love, I'm clanging symbol,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kinkling you know, crystals, I'm just noise. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>even doing anything unless I love. Now, God says that

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<v Speaker 2>you need to always speak in love. It's intentional that

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you that I love you practically every week

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<v Speaker 2>because I want you to know. That's why I do

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<v Speaker 2>what I do. Nobody pays me to do this. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've served this church for free for forty four years.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get a salary from this church. I do

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<v Speaker 2>this because I love you, and that's what makes it

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<v Speaker 2>have power. Now, how do you communicate love in a conversation? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know how to do this. If you've ever been

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<v Speaker 2>on a date, you communicate love with your eyes the

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<v Speaker 2>way you look at somebody. Have you ever looked somebody

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<v Speaker 2>and they weren't loving you at that moment?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And have you ever looked at somebody and they

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<v Speaker 3>were looking at it? You go, man, they really love

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<v Speaker 3>me right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And they haven't said a word. Your eyes are a

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<v Speaker 2>powerful tool for showing love. And if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a conversation with a child, an important conversation, or

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have an important conversation with anybody else, you

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<v Speaker 2>start with looking at them in love, Okay, by paying attention,

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<v Speaker 2>because attention is love. When I pay attention to you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying I love you. When you pay attention to me,

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying you love me.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus modeled this one day a young man. He was rich,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a professional, He was a young man, and

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<v Speaker 2>he comes to Jesus with a question. And here's what

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible says about it, Mark ten, verse twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark ten twenty one. Jesus felt genuine love for the

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<v Speaker 2>man as he looked straight at him. Circle the phrase,

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<v Speaker 2>as he looked, he looked, and he loved he looked,

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<v Speaker 2>and he loved so great communication. When you're gonna sit

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<v Speaker 2>down with a face to face conversation starts with the

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<v Speaker 2>way you look at somebody. They've got to feel that

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<v Speaker 2>you love them. They're not going to listen otherwise. Proverbs

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<v Speaker 2>twenty verse twelve. God has given us eyes to see

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<v Speaker 2>and ears to listen with. Notice he didn't say anything

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<v Speaker 2>about the mouth there in communication, it's your eyes and

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<v Speaker 2>ears that matter more than your mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>He says.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got eyes to see, we've got ears to listen.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be looking for non verbal cues. Now, how

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<v Speaker 2>many eyes did God give you two? How many ears

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<v Speaker 2>did God give you two? How many mouths did God

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<v Speaker 2>give you one? You should listen and look twice as

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<v Speaker 2>much as you talk. And that's the reason God gave

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<v Speaker 2>you twice as much. The biggest problem in communication we

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<v Speaker 2>talk too much. We don't listen enough, we don't look enough.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk too much. And the Bible there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to say about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do we talk too much?

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<v Speaker 2>Because we love ourselves more than we love anybody else,

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<v Speaker 2>and we like to hear ourselves more than we like

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<v Speaker 2>to hear anybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, God warns over and over again in the Bible

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<v Speaker 2>about talking too much. At least ten twelve verses in

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<v Speaker 2>Proverbs talk about the problem of talking too much, and

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<v Speaker 2>he says, first, you got to learn how to listen,

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<v Speaker 2>for you learn how to talk. Let me just show

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<v Speaker 2>you a couple verses about talking too much. Look up

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<v Speaker 2>here on the screen. The Bible says this, Proverbs ten fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>The wise don't tell everything they know, but the foolish

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<v Speaker 2>talk too much and are ruined. Look at the next one,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible says, Proverbs ten nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>The more you talk, the more likely you are to sin. Okay, duh,

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<v Speaker 2>Law of averages Proverbs thirteen three. Talk too much and

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<v Speaker 2>you're done for Proverbs thirteen three. Look at this one,

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<v Speaker 2>Proverbs eighteen twenty one. Those who love to talk will

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<v Speaker 2>have to eat their own words. Yeah that's how many

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<v Speaker 2>you have ever had to do that? Yeah, we've all

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<v Speaker 2>done that. Proverbs ten nineteen, Living Bible. Don't talk too much,

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<v Speaker 2>you keep putting your foot in your mouth. Be sensible

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<v Speaker 2>and turn off the flow. I love that in the

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<v Speaker 2>Living Bible. I love that verse so much that when

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<v Speaker 2>my kids were little, I wrote a song for it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would sit down at the piano in our

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<v Speaker 2>house and we would all sing this song. Don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>too much, you keep putting your fluid in your mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Be sensible and turn off the flow.

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<v Speaker 3>I still know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Verse from art, you know thirty years later. Okay, and you,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a parent, one of the ways to teach

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<v Speaker 2>your kids scripture is make up a little song about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because I wanted to say there are times you

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<v Speaker 2>can talk too much. Look at this one. I love

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<v Speaker 2>this one. Proverbs twenty nineteen. Don't associate with the person

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<v Speaker 2>whose mouth is always open. Last week we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of friends to have and not to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't associate eight with a verson whose bouth is always open.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna get you in trouble. So the problem with

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<v Speaker 2>looking at people in love is that we just talk

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<v Speaker 2>too much. Now here's the second skill, the E or

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<v Speaker 2>the I in listen is invest as much time as needed.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're gonna learn to be an expert listener, you

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<v Speaker 2>not only start with looking at him in love, but

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<v Speaker 2>then I you invest as much time as needed. Because

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<v Speaker 2>the truth is, you can't listen well in a hurry.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're in a hurry, you're not ever going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a great listener. Great listening takes time. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to slow down. The truth takes time. Now a good

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<v Speaker 2>example of this is Job chapter two. You know the

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<v Speaker 2>story of Job. He was a wealthy man. We mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>him last week in our last message. Job chapter two,

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<v Speaker 2>he lost everything. And in vers of Eve to thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>it says this, when Job's three close friends heard of

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<v Speaker 2>They traveled from their homes to comfort and console him.

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<v Speaker 3>The fewer words you use. Don't ever forget.

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<v Speaker 2>That the deeper the pain someone is in, the fewer

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<v Speaker 3>You show up, you shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>You do the ministry of presence and the fewer words

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<v Speaker 3>Invest as much time.

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<v Speaker 2>Notice how many days did Job's friends sit on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground with him seven? That's a real friend to say,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have anybody in your life who'd sit on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground with you for seven days without saying anything.

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<v Speaker 2>That takes a very mature person. They're just that we're

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<v Speaker 2>You invest as much time as needed, and because you

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<v Speaker 2>So elle and listen, look at them with love, I

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of times.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll have a conversation with a child who's had a

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<v Speaker 3>Or a friend and a neighbor or a.

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<v Speaker 2>one of the problems with us as human beings is

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<v Speaker 2>we like to fix things. We all want to be fixers.

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<v Speaker 2>And what God wants you to do before you're a fixer,

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<v Speaker 2>to feel the pain their feeling before you try to

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<v Speaker 2>fix the problem. Share their feeling whatever they're feeling before

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<v Speaker 3>See.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times a child will come to you

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not really that big a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's just very unloving because it is a big

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<v Speaker 2>deal to them, and if you love them, it will

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<v Speaker 2>be a big deal to you. So you share their feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't share your solution. As I said, men in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>we're fixers. And I didn't understand this for many years.

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<v Speaker 2>Kay would come in with a problem. I thought she

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<v Speaker 3>I learned much later.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she just wanted to talk about them, and she

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think i've ever seen one on that big

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<v Speaker 2>wooh man? Is that a problem? Wow? No wonder you're

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<v Speaker 3>That is a problem, babe. That's a problem. Man, oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, sometimes if I actually made a

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<v Speaker 2>going that's all I needed. I just needed my husband

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<v Speaker 2>to understand what a tough day I had. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>need him to fit anything. But we typically are quick

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<v Speaker 2>to the fix. That means you're not listening. It is

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<v Speaker 2>my typical nature that if somebody comes to me with

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<v Speaker 2>a problem, they're barely into the fourth or fifth sentence

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to I know how to fix this.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not loving. We all want to be fixes.

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<v Speaker 2>But first people want to be understood. People don't care

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<v Speaker 3>They want to feel loved. They want to feel understood.

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<v Speaker 2>They want you to feel what they're feeling, and they

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<v Speaker 3>That's yeah, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I see why you're worried, why you're upset, why you're frustrated,

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<v Speaker 2>while you're angry, why you're whatever emotion you're feeling. I

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<v Speaker 2>need to mirror that. I need to share their feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the solution. Here's what the Bible says Proverbs eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>verse thirteen. Anyone who answers quickly without listening, That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about, getting to the fix first, the solution.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone who answers quickly without listening first is both foolish

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<v Speaker 2>and insulting. So let me just say this, when anybody

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<v Speaker 2>before you try to fix anything. Don't get to the fix.

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<v Speaker 2>Just wait.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you know the.

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<v Speaker 2>they need to share. There is healing and sharing. There

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<v Speaker 2>is healing and being able to have somebody listen to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Your ear is a healing tool used by God. If

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<v Speaker 2>you'll let God use it, If you'll learn to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to people without trying to fix them first, many of

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<v Speaker 2>them will be healed right there on the spot, simply

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<v Speaker 2>by being listened to, because they weren't paid attention to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe some other.

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<v Speaker 2>Point in their life, share their feelings, not the solution.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the best examples of this is the death

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<v Speaker 2>were good friends of Jesus. He often when they lived

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean deathly sick. He's like on his deathbed,

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<v Speaker 2>It takes him three days to get there. This is

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<v Speaker 2>why did it take him so long, because he has

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<v Speaker 2>He already knows the solution even before Lazarus gets sick.

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<v Speaker 2>just been here, he would have lived. But now he's dead.

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<v Speaker 2>When Jesus saw her Mary weeping, along with many others

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<v Speaker 2>who were weeping, he was deeply moved. Circle that deeply moved.

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<v Speaker 2>He's sharing their feelings. Where have you baren in his body?

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus asked, come and see Lord, they replied, And then

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<v Speaker 2>So here's our memory verse this week. Jesus wept. That

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five, And what is John eleven thirty five Jesus wept?

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<v Speaker 2>And where does it say in the Bible Jesus wept,

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<v Speaker 2>John eleven thirty five. You just memorized the Bible verse,

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<v Speaker 2>the shortest one in the Bible, but it's also one

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus weeps, Jesus cares. He's not unconcerned about your pain.

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<v Speaker 2>And when Jesus saw everybody else around him weeping, what

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<v Speaker 3>Even though he knew the solution.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus already knew he was gonna heal this guy, that

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<v Speaker 2>he actually was gonna resurrect him. He knows why he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing what he's doing. He knows why he delayed. He's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna prove that he's the son of God by resurrecting Lazard.

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<v Speaker 3>He knows in advance the solution.

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<v Speaker 2>And he walks in and everybody's weeping, and everybody's crying,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody's grieving.

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<v Speaker 3>And Jesus does.

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<v Speaker 2>Not say, everybody, stop it, stop crying. I got the solution.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't say that. He doesn't say, everybody stop grieving.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna heal the guy. I'm gonna raise him.

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<v Speaker 3>From the dead. Watch this. No, he doesn't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>What does he do? He weeps with him. He weeps

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<v Speaker 2>That shows the sympathy, empathy, and compassion of our savior.

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<v Speaker 2>He already knows the solution, but what is he doing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's sharing their feelings, not his solution. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>principle of the story of Lazarus, and if Jesus did it,

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<v Speaker 2>he is gonna heal him. Certainly you can do. You

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<v Speaker 2>may know the solution, hold off, don't. If you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a great listener, you got to listen to the

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<v Speaker 3>Does this makes sense? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>This is how you become a great listener. I look

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<v Speaker 2>at them with love, I invest as much time as needed.

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<v Speaker 2>I share their feelings, not my solution. Even if I

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<v Speaker 2>know I can solve it, I don't share it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I just share their feelings and I enter into their grief.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what Jesus did. Wow. Some powerful words from

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<v Speaker 3>Pastor Rick.

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<v Speaker 1>And now this really is one of my favorite parts

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<v Speaker 3>Here's Rick.

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<v Speaker 2>I love getting letters from you. Let me share a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit longer when it's from Sarah and her four

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<v Speaker 2>year old son. She said, Pastor Rick, my husband and

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<v Speaker 2>I are involved in a church plant in Salem, Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>other pastors preach by a podcast. But I began listening

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<v Speaker 2>to your Daily Hope podcast and I stumbled across Christians

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<v Speaker 2>in the workplace and that small group study that you

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<v Speaker 2>did that has been a great study and quite relevant

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<v Speaker 2>to us. Thank you for making your materials available beyond

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<v Speaker 2>Saddleback Church, Pastor Rick. As a result of my regular

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<v Speaker 2>listening to your podcast, my son now frequently asked to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the sermons. He's four and a half years old,

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<v Speaker 2>and one morning, on our way to church, he asked

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<v Speaker 2>me to put on a sermon. I love this kid,

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<v Speaker 2>he said. I had a Pastor Craig podcast in the

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<v Speaker 2>queue but began to listen, but my son kept asking

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to a sermon by you, and I kept

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<v Speaker 2>telling this was a sermon. Then he said, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to listen to Pastor Rick Warren. That's funny. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>when your four year old's Sam asked to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Warren, you listen to Rick Warren. So I asked Sam,

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<v Speaker 2>why like to listen to you? He said, I like

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<v Speaker 2>what Pastor Rick says, and he said he says, if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't swing from one bar to another, you're just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hang there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was shocked. That he had picked up that truth.

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<v Speaker 2>That was just one of the recent Daily Hope messages

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<v Speaker 2>where you talked about faith and you were referring to

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<v Speaker 2>where trapeze artists have to let go of one bar

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<v Speaker 2>before they reach on to the second, and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to say thank you for the work you do,

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<v Speaker 2>for the messages you teach, and it goes noticed even

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<v Speaker 2>by the youngest of human beings, My four year old

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<v Speaker 2>son best Sarah, Well, what can I say, Sarah, this

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<v Speaker 2>is just such a great story. Thank you, and thank

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<v Speaker 2>your four year old son Sam for listening, and thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for your ministry. And Salem, Massachusetts. May God bless

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<v Speaker 2>your church and may all of you join me next

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<v Speaker 2>time as we continue to look at God's word for

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<v Speaker 2>our daily hope.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much, Rick, And if you'd like to let

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<v Speaker 1>Rick know how much this broadcast has meant to you,

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<v Speaker 1>how it's blessed you, please send him an email at

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<v Speaker 1>Rick at pastorick dot com. That's Rick at pastorick dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick looks so forward to reading those emails. Be sure

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<v Speaker 1>to join us next time as we look into God's

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<v Speaker 1>word for our daily hope. This program is sponsored by

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<v Speaker 1>Daily Hope Ministries and your generous financial support
