Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of May
Speaker 2: something For this week of May nineteenth, we are continuing
Speaker 2: with Running Point on Netflix with episode nine the playoffs.
Speaker 3: We saw this coming, entirely predictable, player tested against it.
Speaker 4: We did.
Speaker 1: Could they have made it more arbitrary either. It's not
Speaker 1: even that she cheated with the coach. It's just of
Speaker 1: all the times that you have not done what I
Speaker 1: have hoped you would do, this is the time I'm
Speaker 1: drawing the line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, of all the times you've been flaky or
Speaker 3: missed something, and they established that these two have been
Speaker 3: together for like seven years or.
Speaker 1: Some and out of all the times, I say, I
Speaker 1: understand that you have a lot going on. So if
Speaker 1: you don't make it, it's okay. This is the time,
Speaker 1: it's not going to be okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't true. Yeah.
Speaker 1: From a parenting point of view, it reminded me of
Speaker 1: my mom and the mother daughter dinner. When I was
Speaker 1: a kid, had to go to the mother daughter dinner
Speaker 1: every year at church. It was no negotiable. Got that
Speaker 1: I graduate, go to college, live away from home. I
Speaker 1: graduate college and go to Kansas City and live away
Speaker 1: from home. I come back and I'm living in my
Speaker 1: parents' house again, and there's a mother daughter dinner, and
Speaker 1: once again I have to go. At this point even
Speaker 1: less interested than I was when I was a kid
Speaker 1: and a person in high school. So this one time,
Speaker 1: here comes the dinner. And I was participating in a
Speaker 1: community choir and it was getting kinda close to concert times,
Speaker 1: and it was the same rehearsal as the same night
Speaker 1: as the dinner. And I said, Mom, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: absolutely can't go. I have to be at this rehearsal.
Speaker 1: It's very important. I have to be at this rehearsal.
Speaker 1: And she was hurt, as moms are, but I was
Speaker 1: non negotiable about it. I have to be at this rehearsal,
Speaker 1: It's no question about it. I can't go to the dinner. Well,
Speaker 1: then that night I hear that a friend of mine
Speaker 1: has had let's just say, a mental health crisis and
Speaker 1: is in the hospital, and a bunch of us are
Speaker 1: going to go visit her. So we blow off the
Speaker 1: practice to go visit her in the hospital. And when
Speaker 1: my mom hears this, she reacts about the way the
Speaker 1: leve reacted here, which is a you know, the thing
Speaker 1: that's important to me is not important to you, and
Speaker 1: that is unforgivable, right, And I'm like, well, but my
Speaker 1: friend almost died, that's an important thing. I had to go.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, you know, doesn't matter that you're taking
Speaker 1: the guy to rehab, which is the right thing to do,
Speaker 1: and terrible thing's gonna happen if you didn't. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: This is where I have drawn the line in the sand.
Speaker 1: And I don't care what your reasons were right. The
Speaker 1: thing that is important to me is not important to you,
Speaker 1: and that is irreparably hurtful. Right, So I feel for
Speaker 1: Ilah because I've been not She was as nice as yours, honey.
Speaker 1: But I understand where you're coming from, and I guess
Speaker 1: I can see his point of view too, because boy
Speaker 1: with guy in trouble for quite some time, possibly never
Speaker 1: got back from that. I don't know I moved. I
Speaker 1: think I moved out of the house. It's not too
Speaker 1: long afterwards, because it's like this bleep I am done with, right,
Speaker 1: But I mean, now that I'm a mom, I can see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's the mother daughter dinner. It's the thing we
Speaker 1: do every year. It's our mother daughter and is all
Speaker 1: rights on this? Why won't you go with me? Why
Speaker 1: don't you care? So yeah, you know, I can see it,
Speaker 1: But in a TV show, in a sitcom, it's spectacularly annoying.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Stop stop stop stop. There will be
Speaker 1: another mother daughter dinner next year. You can go to
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 2: Right, another Pediatrician of the Year award.
Speaker 1: You should have given away her cake. The cake, but
Speaker 1: she trying to get there, she just went to the
Speaker 1: wrong place. It's not like she just you know, didn't
Speaker 1: show up at all.
Speaker 3: I know, well, it's just one of those, and I've
Speaker 3: heard them all, and it just doesn't seem in keeping
Speaker 3: with what we have seen of his character thus far.
Speaker 4: Or of their relationship or her relationship.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess they're trying to make the point that, like,
Speaker 3: you know, her life changed a lot because she got
Speaker 3: this job.
Speaker 1: But that could have been an ongoing conversation throughout the season.
Speaker 4: Right, And it could have been I mean, she said.
Speaker 1: She was going to convert and then she changed her mind,
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh what else? Oh but this
Speaker 1: you waited a piece of chocolate cakee. This is where
Speaker 1: I draw a line, clearly, clearly what needs to happen
Speaker 1: is that she needs to stand up in the middle
Speaker 1: of a game and sing Taylor swiat seeing some tailors,
Speaker 1: and that will make it all all right. That is
Speaker 1: a very sitcomy moment, which I entirely ate up with
Speaker 1: a spoon like a piece of chocolate cake. I am
Speaker 1: there for that, And if Charlie had not turned into
Speaker 1: a puddle of tears, I would have been done with him, right,
Speaker 1: But of course he did so, and I sort of
Speaker 1: liked that half the half the auditorium was was booing
Speaker 1: and half of them was singing along. Right America at
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, this is where we're at. I absolutely
Speaker 1: believe that would happen.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure very cute.
Speaker 3: And happy to see Sandy and his hair being recited
Speaker 3: with their.
Speaker 1: Now can he do something with that hair? Charlie, Come on,
Speaker 1: you've worked with Doc exactly what. I'm sure you can
Speaker 1: make his whatever that is going on, or just take
Speaker 1: him aside and say.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, no, if we're going to be back together,
Speaker 3: I'm going to insist on some things.
Speaker 1: Or maybe he just like the tossile hair look from dogs.
Speaker 1: You know, he was a good boy. That's what happened.
Speaker 1: That's how you get that hair. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I'm glad that that at least worked out and
Speaker 1: Jackie uh sort of broke her the deal and then
Speaker 1: got left out at the end. But I was really
Speaker 1: hoping when he said make the reservation for four, that
Speaker 1: Sandy had gone and figured out how to make things
Speaker 1: right with the girl and then they could.
Speaker 4: But no, that was too much.
Speaker 1: That would have been too much into a TV show.
Speaker 1: And also Sandy is not that guy. No, he is
Speaker 1: far too That would have required him paying attention and caring,
Speaker 1: which is not going to happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I did think at least maybe he was
Speaker 3: thinking like, oh, and you can invite you know whoever,
Speaker 3: she doesn't know who it is.
Speaker 1: No, he was so is he said he only had
Speaker 1: one date with her. So is that the dancer is
Speaker 1: the dancer the guy's daughter.
Speaker 4: No, I think the guy's daughter is one of the.
Speaker 1: Another single date. Okay, yes, all right.
Speaker 3: One of the people who got in his DMS and
Speaker 3: just was.
Speaker 1: Like, hey, well, yeah, if I wrote down the name
Speaker 1: the time he said at fifty two times, we'll know
Speaker 1: when she.
Speaker 2: Comes back to finally get back together, which she.
Speaker 1: I know it's coming back for next season, but you
Speaker 1: have to tie up that loophole. Yes, and if you
Speaker 1: are not going to be bringing Max Greenfield back next season,
Speaker 1: I want to see him dance before this season is over.
Speaker 2: Come on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this has been talked up across the internet, so somebody.
Speaker 1: Yes, his ability to move needs to be demonstrated. He
Speaker 1: can do a dance and sing Taylor Swift to her,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: But she doesn't deserve that he needs, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Mean should she have not taken Travis to rehab to see?
Speaker 2: Is she the only person who could take Travis to reham?
Speaker 1: I guess I think in this scenario, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, it'd be law of economy of characters.
Speaker 1: Yes, she is, and she is proving that she is
Speaker 1: not like her family, Yes, by being caring and doing
Speaker 1: the thing and not ponting this off to somebody else.
Speaker 1: But uh ah, I don't know. It's a sitcom. What
Speaker 1: do you want? I want? I want everybody to be
Speaker 1: happy as you got one more episode?
Speaker 4: Mm hm, got one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like you said, this was, you know, another
Speaker 3: classic case of I'm not going to be like my parent.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Yes, and as.
Speaker 3: We've said before, try to raise your children in such
Speaker 3: a way that they do not have this response to
Speaker 3: your yes, to your actions, right, and they will go
Speaker 3: to mother daughter dinners with you. But also you have
Speaker 3: to be the kind of parent who acknowledges like oh,
Speaker 3: a friend had a crisis, like you need to be
Speaker 3: there for the front, you know, not to not to
Speaker 3: slag on your mom.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, I think if I had not gone to
Speaker 1: such great lengths to argue the essentialness of the.
Speaker 2: Squire, Yes, exactly it would have been.
Speaker 1: So I sort of did my own self in but
Speaker 1: oh man, she was a bit of a handful anyway. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's from a parenting point of view, you don't
Speaker 1: want your kids to grow up to think that what
Speaker 1: they want to be is the opposite of who you are,
Speaker 1: because they're not going to be able to They're not
Speaker 1: going to escape. I'm just as over controlling and overbearing
Speaker 1: as my mom, right, And if somebody, if somebody did
Speaker 1: that to me, I probably he would make them suffer.
Speaker 2: So and it was counselman Jeremy jam that got yes
Speaker 2: changed her.
Speaker 4: Mind because he used the word horse.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, nice to see him again, I guess. But
Speaker 1: and uh, there was a lot of talk about doing
Speaker 1: the wrong things to get the right result or the
Speaker 1: right doing the right thing having the wrong result, or
Speaker 1: the right thing having the right result. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe just don't think about it. So doing the wrong
Speaker 1: thing sometimes brings the right result is classic self justification. Yes, not,
Speaker 1: whatever I want to do, even if it's bad, is righteous.
Speaker 1: So and if it doesn't bring the right result, well
Speaker 1: then I tried. And if he does, then I'm a
Speaker 1: good person. But in this case, I guess the right
Speaker 1: thing brought the wrong results if you consider her relationship
Speaker 1: to be a result. So it's hard when you're hard
Speaker 1: to navigate that with kids. Yes, from a parenting point
Speaker 1: of view, sure that you know. Sometimes you have to
Speaker 1: do the right thing no matter what, even when it
Speaker 1: appears that if you've done something else, things would have
Speaker 1: worked out better. Yeah, and then you have to remember
Speaker 1: that yourself exactly stinks.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's funny.
Speaker 1: Easy forgiveness also a big issue. That's how much when
Speaker 1: you know your kid has done something goodheartedly and yet
Speaker 1: they have done something that is not acceptable? How do
Speaker 1: you navigate that? Yeah, it's difficult, and it happens a lot.
Speaker 3: And where usually Taylor Swift cannot solve the problem for you,
Speaker 3: it would work for me.
Speaker 1: My kids should know that. But yeah, it's not as
Speaker 1: easy as that, as lovely as it would be to
Speaker 1: just be able to if you ever had to make
Speaker 1: a grand gesture like that is does that only happened
Speaker 1: in TV shows or people actually do that? Really?
Speaker 2: I can't I can't think of anything.
Speaker 3: I think I'm much too inclined to just be like, oh,
Speaker 3: well that didn't work, relationship didn't work, whatever, didn't happen,
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, there's nothing I can. I'm like
Speaker 3: very just resigned, you know, like I wouldn't I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes you try to do those grand gestures
Speaker 1: with your kids and oftentimes they just don't get it,
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm going to reward you by getting
Speaker 1: you this very expensive vacation. We're gonna go to Disneyland,
Speaker 1: and they're like, I really just wanted to have that toy, right,
Speaker 1: It's like or I really just wanted to have this
Speaker 1: thing with my friend and you said, no, you can't
Speaker 1: make it up by doing something big.
Speaker 2: Write something completely different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but what a screwed up bunch of people.
Speaker 2: These are another classics that come move.
Speaker 4: Huh that's right.
Speaker 1: See, she could have just called Travis's mom and had
Speaker 1: him come and take him. You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she would have been there in a heart beat,
Speaker 3: although she might have recrimination.
Speaker 1: See I was right. Yeah I should have stayed you
Speaker 1: were wrong.
Speaker 4: Maybe she would.
Speaker 3: Have, you know, like I'll keep him sober through the
Speaker 3: playoffs and then yeah, probably that would have probably been
Speaker 3: her move, Like I'm gonna make it so we can
Speaker 3: all have our ca I can mean it too, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: I think would have been her response.
Speaker 1: Well, of things that really matter, not but still filled
Speaker 1: me with delight. That scene from the wedding Singer that
Speaker 1: Sandy watched. I have watched that scene an embarrassing number
Speaker 1: of times. It keeps coming up from me on YouTube,
Speaker 1: and I just love it. Starting when Adam Sandler is
Speaker 1: talking with all the first class passengers, including Billy Idol
Speaker 1: just because yes, and then he starts singing this song.
Speaker 1: He notices that she's on the plane and it's so
Speaker 1: sweet yes, and gave Sandy a pretty good idea.
Speaker 3: As it turns out, Adam Sandler noted romantic Yes.
Speaker 1: Anytime that pops up on YouTube, I am watching it
Speaker 1: just because so cute.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: The bad guy gets locked in a plane bathroom to
Speaker 1: the rescue.
Speaker 2: Right, good times for everyone.
Speaker 1: Also, I believe there was a Macaulay culkinsigning, Oh, who
Speaker 1: is the husband of Brenda song who plays Ali. They
Speaker 1: were just showing the crowd, various people in the crowd.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it's him.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm gonna have to go back, and.
Speaker 1: I guess during uh, during Sandy's.
Speaker 2: Song, Well, that would be fun little easter.
Speaker 1: Raight, Yeah, come visit your wife at work day, right
Speaker 1: wife or significant female mother at work day for both of.
Speaker 3: You know, well, I guess no, he doesn't play he
Speaker 3: doesn't play Ali's spouse.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like for both.
Speaker 4: The character and yeah, yeah, no, I don't think so,
Speaker 4: not quite.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we had to have this thing with them
Speaker 1: breaking up, I'm glad that anything that happens with the
Speaker 1: coach is going to happen after that and not before that.
Speaker 1: I'm glad it wasn't reason for it, even though the
Speaker 1: reason for it was really lame.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: You have to find out if that actor has his
Speaker 3: contract renewed, the one who plays the coach, because he's
Speaker 3: supposed to be leaving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look up and see which of these two gentlemen
Speaker 1: is still in the.
Speaker 4: Cast for season.
Speaker 1: Will tell us a lot, Yeah, because it's.
Speaker 2: Not like Lost, where anything can happen and flash back.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: Yeah never.
Speaker 1: But so, so, do you think that they're gonna gonna
Speaker 1: win the championship?
Speaker 3: Well, I think they're going to It's going to be
Speaker 3: down to the last minute, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty likely.
Speaker 3: I think that's something we can predict with confidence.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep. And we didn't see any of scheming
Speaker 1: older other in this episode. No, correct, So uh, he's
Speaker 1: gotta they have to pay off that, yes, at some point,
Speaker 1: which would have to be this episode. So this coming episode.
Speaker 1: So what is this coming episode called?
Speaker 2: It is called Game seven.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, they've been They've gone to town with these
Speaker 1: last few episode names.
Speaker 2: You know, I know some of them.
Speaker 3: Early on were Game seven so complicated and hard to pronounce.
Speaker 1: They just a little better than Pilot, but still it's
Speaker 1: like they have two people who do the names, and
Speaker 1: one of them is incredibly on the nose and the
Speaker 1: other is doing things that that podcasters will have to
Speaker 1: pronounce it.
Speaker 2: I'll struggle.
Speaker 1: I'll take the Game seven, thank you, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I recognize both those words, right.
Speaker 3: So next Wednesday we will watch that Game seven, and
Speaker 3: we'll see you back here tomorrow for our weekly Roundabout
Speaker 3: round up.
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