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Speaker 1: Tonight's guest is officer Robbie Rings and guest co host Carlside.

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Speaker 2: Looking back on the life that you leave him. Then

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resting home in the crowd, stick around through the create

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the feeling, go the fire. You're dancing around on hearing

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the sound of the treating.

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Speaker 3: And no one cares where he's coming from.

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Speaker 4: My ears and.

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Speaker 5: New ring and feeding.

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Speaker 6: I guess me.

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Speaker 3: I'm new from the.

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Speaker 7: Start's other days, my close.

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Speaker 3: You one of these days will be the world.

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Speaker 7: Look at for Frances, what a sas.

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Speaker 3: He's my cost my coast, leading the fuse of the.

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Speaker 2: Ashes, the spirits, lad.

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Speaker 8: Up and.

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Speaker 9: Looking down the shore life from the Untold Radio Network.

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It's Untold Radio Am with Monster Quest producer host Doug

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Hicheck and co host Jeff Pirella Jr. Untold Radio Am

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is going live right now.

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Speaker 1: This show is for entertainment purposes only. Yep, that's the ticket.

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Now Here are your Untold Radio A m posts, Doug

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high Check and Jeff Corella Jr.

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Speaker 10: Hello Jeff, Hello everyone.

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Speaker 8: I sorry we're late. I've been I've been battling computer

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problems non stop. Yeah oh oh what even got better?

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I get into my studio even the lights wouldn't work right,

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it would just like, really, is there is there an

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electrical issue with me?

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Speaker 10: Do you live in the twilight zone? That song?

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Speaker 8: Oh my god, yeah, we were haven't last time. We're

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trying to watch TV and the TV cap shutting off

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or like what is going on? And then it would

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come back on. Then we turn it back on and

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it would come on without follow you. So you're like, okay,

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they need unplug it said. So it's just been NonStop

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technical since last Sunday. Actually, even when I went to

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send send some notes to you, I get a message

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and I sent it to you, the strangest message ever

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from my crossoft. It says, and this is God's truth.

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It goes, it says, you have changed. What does it say?

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Speaker 10: Like I sent you something? You've changed?

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Speaker 8: You've changed your email? And then it's gotten okay, Like,

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of course I've changed my email. I wrote in it.

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Speaker 10: What does it say, Jeff, I sent me a screencap here?

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Speaker 8: It's like the weirdest message. It means the.

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Speaker 10: Operation cannot be performed because the message has been changed.

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Speaker 8: Exactly, the message has been changed. Well that's what all

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messages are anyhow, Hello fellow on toldians Hey, we are

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we are here. We're gonna have a shoe.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Bad beginnings always mean a good ending that I know.

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Gonna pay your dues. This live live YouTube stuff is difficult.

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It can be. It can be. Sometimes it goes smooth

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and silk. Right, We'll have like ten shows that's smooth

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as silk, and then.

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Speaker 10: That live is always an adventure. I uh, I used

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to do. I used to do TV news live that

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was an adventure. And there's something like it. It's uh,

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it's kind of a unique form of stress. It's live

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without a net.

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Speaker 11: It is.

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Speaker 8: I remember I used to go to KSTP and I

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had friends over there at the news and the countdown

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clock would be ticking and we'd always be playing practical

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jokes on the noise right before they went on the air,

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absolutely right before it was just torture on them. Anyhow, okay, ah,

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so any what do we got going on here?

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Speaker 1: We have?

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Speaker 8: Well, first off, a couple of things. This is your

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home for unverified crap. We do know that is, and

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we have we do have a great guest who is verified.

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He is Officer Robbie Rains. And we have a guest host,

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Carl's Up and you can bring Carl up right now.

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Speaker 10: All right, welcome Carl, Carl, help us co host. Good

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to see Carl, Good to see you.

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Speaker 8: Oh, good to see you.

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Speaker 4: Glad to be here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you almost had to replace me tonight, I mean anyhow,

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so Carl's gonna help us out. But we've got Officer

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Robbie rains On and we will step into the shadows,

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obviously with a man who's been decades, literally decades, chasing

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what most police officers and people won't even talk about,

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let alone a police officer. So he's a veteran police officer,

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train tracker. He's author of what ten books?

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, he sent me the book coverage. It's quite

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So we're gonna definitely want to stand by Officer

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rains today. Also have a bevy of other interesting and

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chilling content.

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Speaker 10: Bevy a bevy. We don't have a bevy very often.

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Speaker 8: No, we don't. It's a bevy. I know you're gonna

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latcher right onto that. It's like I latch, I latch

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onto some of your words, doctor pie whatever, yeah whatever,

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get start putting the lights down a little lower, right,

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get your comfy chair, remove the dog from the comfy chair,

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put them back on your lap. Get a cold beverage

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on like Jeff. Don't want to get Jeff's cold beverage.

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Speaker 10: I didn't even grab a root except for one time.

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Speaker 8: I'm even I'm even out of rip here. But I

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do want to go over a couple of things. One,

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the New York Bigfoot Conference is October second and an

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October third. You can go get your tickets for that.

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They're available right now. Go to I remember the website,

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it's just New York Bigfoot Conference dot com. I believe

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you can New York Bigfoot Conference and find them on

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Facebook too, and there they'll be links to ticket masters

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so you can get your tickets conference. And I bring

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that up as I will be speaking there going this time. Nice, Yeah,

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I'll be speaking there.

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Speaker 10: Awesome.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, along with Let me think here, Maria Mayor. I

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know Adam Davis is going to be around. Uh, Steve

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the panel. God, why is it I cannot think of

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any of the things or any of the speakers are

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going to be there. I can't think of it, Lauren Coleman. Whatever,

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just go to the go to the website and look

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at him too, waved and uh, we've got a weird

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and fast news. We've got a real quick tech breakdown tonight.

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have time. We even get a little a little bit

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of trivia. But let's get on with the show.

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Speaker 10: Time for some news. Let's do it.

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Speaker 8: Let's do it. It's time for weird and fast knees.

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Speaker 10: Alrighty.

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Speaker 8: First off, Currently, in giant squid have been detected off

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Australia coast, apparently for the first Why it says this,

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five years? Did they have them there before?

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Speaker 10: I never heard about that, And you happen to know

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a little bit about it.

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Speaker 8: I know good about that. Yeah, and I never read

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there were any giant squid in Australia. Scientists exploring deep

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underwater canyons of Western Australia found environmental DNA DNA evidence

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of a massive giant squid working thousands of feet below

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the surface. The legendary creature can grow over forty feet long.

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we filmed had one point five foot wide eyes.

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Speaker 10: It's crazy.

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Speaker 8: That's about the size of a pizza, isn't it, Jeff

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small larger? Yeah, Yeah, it says this creature is so

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elusive that live sightings are almost non existent. I think

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they're totally non existent live sightings. Researchers say the deep

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sea still contains countless unknown species. So there you go,

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And then I like this next one. AI says secretly

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found over why? It says secretly once again? Over one

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hundred hidden planets? Now why is it secretly? I'm talking

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about it. It's not a very good secret, says researchers

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using advanced I thought all AI was advanced, so yeah,

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I don't even want to know what advanced AAI systems are.

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Advanced DAIS systems discovered more than one hundred previously in

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planets buried inside old NASA telescope data. Some are bizarre

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altra short period world's orbiting dangerously close to other stars.

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astronomy's most powerful new tools. Yeah, that could dramatically speed

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Speaker 10: It excels at processing lots of data. And that's really

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what astronomy is, just lots and lots and lots of

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's actually amazing, Carl. Do you use a much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well we're starting to really for supply chain things

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in order to get a little smarter and trying to

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figure out where the best parts go and where when

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Speaker 8: And but is anybody using it for software development? I

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Speaker 4: Yes, Actually so it's doing it's doing a lot of

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the what I would say gruntwork in coding and uh

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and that really certainly assists, but you still need to

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have that human intervention to make sure that it's not hallucinating. Right.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's yeah, that's the way to go. Yeah, I

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think my computer was I think somebody updated the microw

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me completely nonsense messages. It's just yeah, I'm sure that

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had something to do with some of these companies incorporating

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updates and using AI. And I think there's just tons

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of bugs yea. And speaking of bugs, scientists discover insects

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that changes. Listen to this from hot pink to green,

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pink before slowly transforming into green over a few weeks.

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the insect mimic rainforest leaves. Yeah, I wouldn't think hot

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pink would be a great discuss guys in a rainforest. Yeah,

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so it mimics rainforests leaves. Interesting And then we have

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we came on, they had done a massive UFO file

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release and some people are really into it and some aren't.

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the documents, you're probably not gonna be so wild with

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there isn't like any real smoking gun and it's

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Speaker 8: No, no, no, we need we need the club close.

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guy walking around giving us a tour that I could

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just see Carl there with a camera walking around the

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I want to see the bucket seats. Okay, So the

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pages of really released uap UFO related government documents were

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dumped online this week reigniting debate about unexplained aerial phenomena.

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Researchers estimate the archives now contain tens of thousands of

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pages of military reports, radar logs, pilot testimony, and intelligence

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summaries that accumulated over decades. While most experts say there

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is no smoking gun, like Jeff has said, many believe

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the real story is the government's growing willingness to publicly

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acknowledge uncertainty surrounding unexplained encounters. Well, the only way they're

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going to, really, I think, satisfy anybody is just dump

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it all, dump everything, because you know, if you're holding

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back anything, that's what we want to know.

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Speaker 4: We'll sort it out. We'll sort it out.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, exactly, just give it to us.

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Speaker 8: I think we can all handle it. Yeah, there'll be

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there'll be more debates. It'll last still good two weeks.

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People will be fighting online and it'll die out.

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Speaker 10: That'll be the end of it.

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Speaker 8: Life will go on, Our bills will come in. You know,

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we'll still pay taxes, still have to fill our cars

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up with gas. It ain't gonna change nothing. Ye. And

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then there is a new evidence that suggests the ancient

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Maya civilizations transported live dogs across huge distances hundreds of

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Speaker 10: Wow, that's cool.

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Speaker 8: Now, when did the Maya civilization die out? Jeff, I

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Speaker 10: Like seventeenth century together.

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dogs likely serve ceremonial, cultural, and practical purposes. Now, one

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thing I did notice that all the dogs that they

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talked about were short leg dogs, and they're usually used

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for hunting small game, just like the beagle. You know,

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they get they can get in fox burrows and rabbit

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burrows and that kind of thing. For Yeah, you would think, yeah,

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they were showing dogs and dogs showing given ribbons.

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Speaker 10: Probably not, but the and whatnot? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, then we have next is hidden voids

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found inside the Egyptian period, the ptermid. They keep finding

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new things, right with all these new advances in light

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are and you kind of think the government probably knew

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a lot of this a long, long, long time ago.

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But now private researchers are using new radar and ultrasonic

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scans reportedly detected hidden empty chambers beneath parts of the

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pyramid in Minkura in Egypt. Researchers say the voids may

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support old theories that unknown chambers or structural mysteries remain

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hidden inside the ancient pyramids.

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Speaker 10: There's almost certainly more stuff going on there than we were.

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Speaker 8: Seen, yeah, it says. Archaeologists are now debating what might

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still be buried underneath. Hopefully it's gold, just gold, piles.

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Speaker 10: Of gold, could be technology, who knows, I never know.

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Speaker 8: Ah. And then Earth's oldest animal Researchers studying ancient Canadian

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rocks believe they may have found traces of animal life

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dating back nearly eight hundred and ninety million years, far

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older than previously believed possible. If confirmed, the discovery could

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rewrite the timeline for when an animal life first appeared

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on Earth. And that looks kind of ugly. I don't

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think it was very big.

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Speaker 10: I'm sure.

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Speaker 8: Well, these are tiny fossils that they found some primitive animals,

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and then plants scream when stressed, just like people. Researchers

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studying plants discovered that certain species emit tiny ultrasonic popping

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sounds when under stress from drought, damage, or lack of water.

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The sounds are too high pitched for humans to hear naturally,

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but sensitive micro phones captured what scientists describe as clicking

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or crackling noises that don't confuse. This is when they

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put the electrodes into plants. This is actually sound that

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they're actually picking up with microphones. So that's totally different

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than what you may have heard in the best, which

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is that stuff's interesting. But I don't you know, I

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mean to me that would be could be affected by,

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you know, just the radio waves in the air. Some

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researchers now believe nearby insects and even other plants may

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react to these hidden distress signals. So if you walk

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in the room and you hear your plant your house

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playing screaming, you'll know where that voice is. Give it

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some water, and then are we're done with the news,

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And then are untold weird Fact of the Week.

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Speaker 1: It's now time for untold radio weird fact of the week.

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Speaker 6: It is kind of weird.

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Speaker 8: Our bumper is weird.

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Speaker 10: All right, this is pretty wild his story.

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Speaker 8: Yeah it is. It's like this guy was not his time, right.

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Oh man, So what happened to my My notes are gone?

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Do you have the notes on those? Oh? There, it

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is never mind, I've got it. I doubled up on

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my photos. So tonight's weird fact sounds literally impossible, but

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it's absolutely true. A Japanese engineer named Jeff It's your turn.

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Dyama Gachi or Yama Gucci is last name, So Tumo

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so sounds perfect. So Tumo Yamagatchi is the only officially

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recognizes man to have survived both atomic bomb blasts in

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World War Two. On August sixth, ninety five, Yamaguchi was

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in Hiroshima on a business trip when the first atomic

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bomb exploded. I thought I was having a bad day

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less than two miles away. Okay, So he was burned

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and injured. He somehow survived the devastation and boarded a

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train back home to Nagasaki, not the place to go.

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Three days later, while describing the horror of Hiroshima to

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his boss. The second atomic bomb detonated over Nagasaki and

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somehow he survived again. Out of the two cities destroyed

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by nuclear weapons, one man lived through both. So and

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I just, you know, I think these are interesting. I literally,

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in the eighties through Larry the Axe Henning, I was

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business partners with his son Kurt Anning, mister Perfect known

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as but Larry. He was kind of roping me into

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doing some of these promos for charity work. So I

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was doing charity work and they were he was working

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on a charity thing and he grabs me and he

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goes talk to this guy. He's the guy that piloted

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Theola gay and I'm like, oh god, okay. So I

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kind of reluctantly grabbed the phone and ended up talking

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to Paul Tibbett's gun dropped the bomb on your Ashima.

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Speaker 10: I just saw a couple of years ago at DC.

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It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 8: So would you want to talk to the guy that

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dropped the Hiroshima bomb there? You would?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely. I'm a history buff and yeah.

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Speaker 8: For sure, I thought this could be some bad going

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my way.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I even have a story with my brother in law's

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grandfather actually loaded the Aola gay that day.

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Speaker 8: Oh really, wow, Well there we go. We're connected again, Carl.

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I always, I always have some aspect. Yes, we always.

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Me and Carl are connected somewhere. We're probably gonna find

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out we got the same cousin here soon. So what

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do we want to do? We got robbies here. Now

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let's do our Let's jump to our clips, play some

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quick clips.

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Speaker 10: Here we go.

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Speaker 8: All right, So these are seven of the world's greatest

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clips that I chose Clip one. The sound is good.

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This I'm just always amazed by this because I swear togain.

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These guys got gravity figured out completely. Go ahead and

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watch some of the leaves they do from a skinny start.

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It's just crazy.

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Speaker 10: To throttle and clutch control of the balance. It's just crazy. Yeah,

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that is.

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Speaker 8: I actually have an old nineteen seventies trial it's called trials,

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and I have a beautiful bike, and I would be

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afraid to do any leaping from rock to rock.

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Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, I was gonna say my favorite part

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was the guy just standing there as he's leaping to

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the rock. That the guy is standing right behind.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, he's gonna just not run and run into him. Yeah,

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all right. Clip two. This is just a really up

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close macro shot. I used to do wildlife shots like

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not quite this good, but I had a pretty powerful

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macrolands and I could do some pretty amazing stuff. We'll

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just leave this monster. I had no idea they had

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appendages at the bottom of their chin, little on, little

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mini arms. You see those two there that folded in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 10: That's incredible.

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Speaker 8: Could you imagine if that thing was seventy feet off?

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Oh no, that would be like, all right, that is cool.

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That is such a cool And then clip three. Sound

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is good. This is the tawny frog mouth. I think

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they should have named it the log bird. You would

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never spot one of these they show it. If they

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show it from the side, it just looks like a stick.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a camouflage man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I think we should start decorating our camera

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traps like nonny frogs. There's that's an irritating I'm not

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I'm not a fan of their song. And speaking of

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pulsating things, Clip for the sound is good. This is

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a pulsar star and what it sounds like.

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Speaker 6: And this is.

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Speaker 8: I agree. Did you imagine our son if it did

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that dragon spots. Listen to that racket only I don't

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know why I picked annoying sound they did. Let's see

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what what other annoying sounds conduct you? Oh? This one

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here is this is about. This is really interesting and

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it's about the uh mirror and a u Ghani effect.

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It's called where things that are similar tracked. Right. We

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all know about water tension, we see it all the time,

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but these things this some of the video in here.

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I may maybe skip ahead and then you know, anybody

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can look it up. Go ahead and play uh this one.

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Speaker 11: Watch this law of attraction states that like attracts like.

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Speaker 4: But I never thought of it.

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Speaker 8: As far Jeff Forward of liquids, All right, watch this.

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Speaker 11: In two thousand and nine, an undergraduate at the University

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of Wisconsin was doing an experiment where he dropped some

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drops of food coloring onto a sterile glass slide. To

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his astonishment, the drops seem to come alive. They began

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moving on their own and interacting with each other. Had

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he just discovered a new form of life? He studied

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this phenomenon on his own until later joining the PhD

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program at Stanford, where he and his team finally got

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to the bottom of what was going on. They found

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that these droplets mimic living cells and could even self sort.

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In this video, I'm going to show you how this

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works and even show exactly what to do to mimic

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this experiment at home for yourself. The reason this happens

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with food coloring specifically is because of a special ingredient

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called propylne glycol. This is a drop of water, and

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this is a drop of propylene glycol. When I put

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each of these liquids on clean glass slides, they spread

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out almost completely. But something interesting happens. When we combine

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the two drops into one drop, they don't spread out

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as well. So if we look at the drop height

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versus the percent of propelling glycol, we get a curve

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that looks like this. For some reason, when we mix

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the drops and almost any ratio, the drops get an

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edge to them that puff out. The reason this happens

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is when the evaporation of water from the drop isn't uniform,

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it can move. For example, if I place another drop

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of the same mixture of propellane glycol and water near

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each other, the water from each of the drops starts

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to evaporate. But notice how in the middle of the

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two drops, the evaporated water builds up more, so there's

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a higher relative humidity in between the drops than on

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the other side of the drops. Water doesn't evaporate fast forward.

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Speaker 8: This drop is attracted.

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Speaker 11: Anything with water up and drives it away. Really, the

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water drop is pulling the propylan glycol rich drop. If

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I make a path for the drops, you can see

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that it just drives it around and around in a circle.

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This can even go uphill against gravity. The two drops

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pushing each other is basically the same mechanism that's causing

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either drop to move in.

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Speaker 8: The first place. The flow goes from low surface.

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Speaker 11: Tension high propylene glycol areas to high surface tension high

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water areas. What's really neat about this is that the

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liquids can even self sort. If I arrange the liquid

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so that they go from high concentration of propylene glycol

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to low concentration, then whatever concentration of drop I roll

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down this incline, it will find its corresponding concentration bin.

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This is because the higher water concentration drops get repelled

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until they find their same concentration. This is so cool,

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actually not that hard to do, but you have to

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be very specific with how you set it up.

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Speaker 8: First.

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Speaker 11: You need very clean glass or it won't work.

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Speaker 8: That's good, Well, little to show people cool.

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Speaker 10: It does not like that's wild.

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Speaker 8: You can look it up. But there's a certain brand

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of food coloring that does it really well, and there's

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another brand that doesn't. It has to do with that

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propylene glyco. Yeah, that'd be a fun experiment for kids

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to see. Yeah, they putting a food coloring in our food.

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This is propylene glecol All right, this clip. Have you

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heard Carl and Jeff have you heard about the Everglades

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being on fire last week? Oh? Yeah, the Everglades are

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on fire. And it's really odd to me because you

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would think those plants would be so soaked with moisture,

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you know, because they're in standing water. But there is

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dry grass. It comes out in the water. But you

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still would think they'd be enough moisture and humidity in

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the fire. Wooden bird, But go ahad and blave.

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Speaker 10: This tons of oxygen.

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Speaker 12: No, the devastating fire in the Florida Everglades has already

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burned eleven thousand acres.

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Speaker 6: Now this might be a silly question.

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Speaker 12: But as you can see from this aerial video, why

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is this fire burning in a straight line?

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Speaker 6: Does it have to do with something of the geography

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of the area, because you got to admit, those lines

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look almost pretty perp.

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Speaker 8: So if anyone out there has the answer to this question,

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please leave it in the cop Yeah. And I heard

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other people mentioning it's just burning in this exact perfect

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straight line, which is on there. You go, Carl, think

474
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:11,720
about that one tonight when you're trying to go to sleep.

475
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:19,799
Absolutely all right, Clip seven, last one? Sound is good. Uh,

476
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:23,119
this is just a really short clip, but this is amazing.

477
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,200
These guys are athletic. It's the ultimate HACKI sack. Go

478
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:36,480
ahead and play this, So it's like play volleyball, but

479
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:52,559
you can't use their hands. We would be totally useless

480
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,279
on that team.

481
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,079
Speaker 10: Jeff, Yeah, Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna be Yeah.

482
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 8: We could probably bump it up with our head. We

483
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,880
could probably you know, do that, but I doubt we'd

484
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,880
be doing backflips.

485
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,799
Speaker 6: And that.

486
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,359
Speaker 4: Looks like broken bones to me. I don't know.

487
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 8: Oh god, yes, I actually I tell people this. I

488
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:18,480
broke my ankle in volleyball. You know, jumping up to

489
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:21,319
spike a ball landed. My ankle was crooked when I

490
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,359
came down on it, and it literally broke my leg

491
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,599
where I limped for ten years after time. So volleyball

492
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,440
can be dangerous.

493
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: Oh, it absolutely can. I'm I'm I'm proof of that

494
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,440
because you know, I played the two man saying volleyball

495
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:37,200
back in the eighties.

496
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 8: Oh really, what did you break?

497
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,279
Speaker 4: I broke everything? You know, that's why these fingers, you know,

498
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:47,359
every finger is broken here.

499
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:50,119
Speaker 8: You know, Well it looks so team, but if you

500
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,119
really get into it and you really want to win,

501
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,599
and you know you're competitive, focusing on your how high

502
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:58,119
you're going, right, you're not thinking about when you come

503
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:58,680
back down.

504
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,559
Speaker 4: Oh I had an indoor I had a forty two

505
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:05,000
inch vertical and outdoor I had a thirty four inch

506
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:06,839
vertical out So wow.

507
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was a really good volleyball player and I

508
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,119
still like playing it today, and I do play it today.

509
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,480
But if I'm more careful, yeah, you know, I'm not

510
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:20,000
going to sacrifice my leg. All right, tech break down.

511
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:21,559
We're going to do this really quick and then we're

512
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:26,320
going to bring on Robbie. And it's just about a

513
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,159
method that you can use to hide your camera tracks, right,

514
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:55,079
camera traps. I see camera tracks, camera traps, and we

515
00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:00,239
are back all right now if you can see there

516
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,719
is a just a standard camera trap, because guys, we

517
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,360
can't just keep strapping them on trees. They're not doing much.

518
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,440
So one mistake researchers make WI trel cams is placing

519
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:16,920
them a normal human eye level. So an animal or

520
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:22,760
obviously our target would be probably bigfoot or anything highly observant,

521
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,000
moves through the woods regularly. You know, they're looking high level,

522
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:29,800
just like humans. I would imagine that they're similar. The

523
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,519
idea is to look for a natural feature like a

524
00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:38,679
stump that you can hollow out and not and so

525
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,000
what I'm recommending you do is bring in a tarp,

526
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,920
hollow it out any way you can, or a muddy

527
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:50,320
like a moss pile like this, bring out whatever you

528
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:54,199
shovel out, whether it's wood or whatever, you do, haulow

529
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:56,880
it out with you. And that way you've got. Now

530
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,519
you've increased your odds by fourfold.

531
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, for sure.

532
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 8: Because they can only see it in one direction. They

533
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,599
come from the back of the sides. They're not going

534
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:08,519
to see it, especially if that hump was already there

535
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,239
in the forest. We'll talk about while they noticed. You know,

536
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,159
if you went in their living room and you change

537
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,280
things and blah blah blah. The idea is to not

538
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:22,360
change something. Go low, go very high. But gow low

539
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,440
is safe. High is dangerous because you're how are you

540
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,360
gonna wenna climb a tree and carry a ladder? So

541
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,920
I recommend you go low. These lenses are very wide angle.

542
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:37,599
It shouldn't affect anything, and you can see now I

543
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:40,360
would have you got to make sure your your passive

544
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,199
center sensors are visible. But you can pile even more

545
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,079
stuff on it. So there you go. I mean, that's

546
00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:48,880
that simple.

547
00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: Carl.

548
00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 10: Are you a.

549
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,639
Speaker 8: A victim of putting them on tree trunks too? I have.

550
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 4: I have done that in the past, and I've put

551
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,440
them up very high by foolishly climbing up trees, having

552
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,679
them angled down and doing all these different things and

553
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,800
leaves and branches, and you know, they're totally hidden, or

554
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:19,480
so I thought, and you know it was. It's been

555
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:22,599
some time that I've given up on camera traps where

556
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:25,360
I just it's like I'm just going to interact with them.

557
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 8: Not well, that's fine, that's cool, but we'd still like

558
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,760
to get some. You know, I just believe there's no

559
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,639
reason to give up. The camera traps are harmless to them,

560
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,480
They're not going to get hurt. Well, anything good happens

561
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:41,480
out of some real series of good video or pictures,

562
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:46,079
clear will be protected land, you know. So that's all

563
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:49,719
I ever think about. But the idea is to not

564
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,599
disturb their area. And maybe another idea is take a

565
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,119
couple of people and have them kind of do a

566
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,079
drive around the perimeter to make sure there's no spies.

567
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,719
So to walk. Have a couple of people walk around

568
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,360
clear the area. Just keep walking in a spiral, clear

569
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,039
the area. So when the person is digging out that

570
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,000
moss stump or that that wooden moss eats that rotten

571
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:18,320
stump to place the camera trap in it, they're gonna

572
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,960
be free of spies.

573
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 10: Good idea.

574
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 8: So there you go. All right, that's all I got.

575
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:35,079
Let's take just a real quick commercial break big Foot

576
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,360
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577
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 6: Mercy book technology can go on publishing.

578
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 10: Step inside, step inside.

579
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 8: Okay, we're back where Doug go, I'm here, I'm here.

580
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,960
I want to do a shout out to Matt Langford.

581
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:31,079
There he's he said, he placed his high end trees

582
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,599
and the next several will now go low. There you

583
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:40,920
go like that, and you know, don't give up. Spend

584
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:46,639
a year to two years on doing going low like that. Search,

585
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,480
start searching, and maybe even do it a little out

586
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:52,599
of their area. Maybe not right in their area, maybe

587
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,800
on the perimeter. A lot of people work certain areas

588
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,000
they know are really active. Maybe do it on the

589
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:05,239
perimeter of the area. All right, let's get to Robbie here,

590
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:11,559
and he's waiting, excited to get him on. So let's see.

591
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,559
Let me read this. So our guest, Robbie Rains, has

592
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:19,679
investigated strange encounters across America, from the deep woods of Missouri,

593
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:26,119
North Georgia to the remote backwoods backwoods, what is wrong

594
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:30,440
with me? Back roads and forgotten places where people claim

595
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:34,199
they were not alone. But what makes tonight especially chilling

596
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,320
is that Robbie's journey into the unknown didn't begin in

597
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,599
a book or a podcast. It began with a personal

598
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,719
encounter near his great grandparents property years ago. And I

599
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,760
believe he still lives near there and experiences still follows

600
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,119
him to this day. So tonight we'll talk about all

601
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:58,599
sorts of you know, kryptis an unexplained encounters. So let's

602
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:05,480
welcome Robbie of Robbie Wrings. Hello, Hey Robbie, how are

603
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:06,559
you doing? Good?

604
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 7: Dog?

605
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,079
Speaker 10: Are you?

606
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:11,079
Speaker 8: I remember obviously meeting you. Wait, god, it was quite

607
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:18,199
probably three years ago DA's show and you were also hosting,

608
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,960
but we never had a chance to ever.

609
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 6: Talk other than the show. Now we hadn't no, so anyhow.

610
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,559
Speaker 8: Okay, So first off, you're still working, aren't you? When

611
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:31,400
police work?

612
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:34,199
Speaker 13: Yep, I got a few more years before icking hang

613
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:34,480
it up.

614
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 8: So okay, and why are you willing let me ask

615
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:40,719
you this, Why are you willing to even go public

616
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,239
and just tell your story?

617
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, for probably forty plus years I didn't talk

618
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,559
about it, and getting to me friends with d A

619
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,400
and Doc and Steve the guys up there, you know

620
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:59,079
it just I just got to a point where I

621
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:01,840
was like, you know what, Yeah, I'm not gonna be

622
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,480
scared to tell my story because and I guess something

623
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:10,039
that really kind of set me off about it is

624
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,280
not the department I'm at now, but another department. I

625
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,079
literally had one of the officers look at me and

626
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:21,679
say that he believed in aliens and believed in ghosts,

627
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,480
but bigot it was stupid to believe in Bigfoot. And

628
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:27,920
I'm like, how can you sit there and say that

629
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,840
you're open minded enough to believe in extraterrestrials or the supernatural,

630
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,079
and but you can't believe in Bigfoot? And I'm crazy

631
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:41,360
for believing in Bigfoot. But that kind of started me,

632
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:44,800
or set me up on the you know what I'm

633
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,360
gonna if somebody asked people, I'm not gonna openly at

634
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,800
that point anyway, I wasn't gonna openly go out and

635
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,280
talk about it, But if anybody talked about it, I

636
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,800
wasn't gonna. I don't know anything about that anymore. I

637
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,159
was just gonna say what you know. I guess that

638
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:57,840
comes with getting older too. You just get to the

639
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,920
point where you just you don't care. Let's say what

640
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,400
you're gonna say. And that's I mean, really, what.

641
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,039
Speaker 8: Are they gonna do? I mean, you could probably get

642
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:08,519
teased to be the worst.

643
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 6: Straight exactly, and I that happened plenty enough times. So

644
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,719
that's which is why I stopped talking about it. Then

645
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,199
It's like I said, I just got to the point

646
00:43:18,199 --> 00:43:19,880
where I was just like, you know, I'm not gonna

647
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,159
be able to change what anybody thinks. So I'm gonna

648
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:23,760
say what I'm gonna say, and if they like it,

649
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,320
if they understand it, if they agree with it, fine,

650
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,000
If they don't, fine too. It ain't no skin off

651
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:35,719
my nose. If they don't believe my story, I don't.

652
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 8: If you had anybody from the police department ever approach

653
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,840
you and go, hey, I saw something one night too

654
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:43,840
that was really weird.

655
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,639
Speaker 6: Yeah. Actually, I have a guy he worked with worked

656
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:50,599
with us before one time before were left, went to

657
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,119
the county agency and he's now back with us. But

658
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,239
while he was still with that county agency, he called

659
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,840
me one day and he said that he had had

660
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,400
an encounter and he wasn't sure what it was. So

661
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,039
when he started describing it, I was like, okay, uh,

662
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,320
and I started asking him the question. I said, well,

663
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,320
when when you heard this groul, I said, did kind

664
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,760
of like reverberate through your He said, yeah, he said

665
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,960
I had both. He was on a little back road

666
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:20,480
where they were. It's on the backside of some property

667
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:24,199
that the front side was being developed with the backside.

668
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 9: Uh.

669
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 6: Brought it up next to Uh. If anybody's familiar with

670
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,280
with South Carolina and Climpson Areas next to ted Garrison Arena.

671
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,320
There's a lot of stuff stories from years and years

672
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,480
and years come out of that area. So he was

673
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:43,920
back there checking out. They'd cut just like an old

674
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,079
gravel road they put into just so they could get

675
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:47,599
to the backside of the property if they needed to

676
00:44:47,639 --> 00:44:50,239
do any work on what they were doing. So basically

677
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,760
just a little access road to get to that backside

678
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,760
of the properties. But kids obviously liked to because it's

679
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,599
way off the beaten path. They would like to go

680
00:44:57,679 --> 00:44:59,719
out there and park. So he was just out there

681
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,159
check that. So he was rolling down the road with

682
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,840
his lights off because it's not a controlled access road.

683
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,239
It's just something they cut in, so he shouldn't have

684
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,639
any vehicle traffic out there. So he's rolling really really slow,

685
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,159
really quiet, had the windows down, and he said, off

686
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:24,679
to his left, he heard something, and he stopped the car,

687
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:27,559
or stopped his troll car. It's sat there for a

688
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:32,320
little bit. And this guy's he former marine. He's hunted bear, hogs,

689
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,719
all that stuff all his life. He's not a guy

690
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,639
that's gonna shake real easy. But he said he heard

691
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,519
something growl. They stopped and kind of listened for a second,

692
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,360
you know, see if it did it again, he said.

693
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,519
In the second time he did it, he said, he

694
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:49,360
just felt it vibrate all through his chest. And I

695
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,639
was like, okay, so what you do? He said, Well,

696
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:54,719
I kept on going till I got saw that there

697
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,039
was no cars there. I turned around and I left.

698
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:04,400
I said, fair enough. So he started doing a little

699
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,440
bit of research in it. And I already had heard

700
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:10,199
this legend. But there's a legend called the Monkey of

701
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,400
mall Bridge because Malbridge Roads close to that area, So

702
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,440
that's kind of in that area. Uh, but I think

703
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:22,400
that's kind of a bigfoot top legend, you know, because

704
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,280
we've got a road here in Pickens County called Booger

705
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,239
Branch Road. Now find the world would it be named

706
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,119
Booger Branch Road?

707
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 8: Exactly?

708
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's that's not far from that area.

709
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,599
Speaker 8: Well, what's interesting, my buddy had a sating on Furman Road. Hmmm,

710
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,599
Like why would you name that road for Man?

711
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

712
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 8: Seems odd coincident?

713
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:48,079
Speaker 6: Maybe, I don't know, maybe, but probably not.

714
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 8: Yeah. I always get a kick out of it. Okay, see,

715
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,880
you've had a little just a tad bit of teasing.

716
00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:58,239
I'm sure it wasn't good fun. But you know, don't

717
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,320
you think things have changed now? Yeah?

718
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 6: I honestly, I and really here in the last I

719
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:07,079
would say probably two to three years, it's really gotten

720
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:12,559
an advent of shows like y'all's our show, Jessica's Show,

721
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:17,880
you know, shows that aren't afraid to get especially the

722
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,079
shows are like, don't.

723
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 13: Prescribe the one particular it's this way. It's like, hey,

724
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,000
you believe this, you believe it's this whatever.

725
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 6: The shows that you could open up and talk about

726
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:30,719
where anybody could come on no matter what they believe,

727
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,920
and you're not getting ridiculed for it. Oh you're in

728
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,199
this camp or you're in this camp. I think the

729
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,360
shows like that is why it's kind of become so

730
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:41,440
much more mainstream, because you know, before, if you didn't

731
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,440
believe they were a certain way, then you couldn't talk

732
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,760
about it or to these people or you know, if

733
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,159
you that's really been within the past two or three years,

734
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:53,239
I think that that's changed.

735
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it just keeps getting better.

736
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:55,559
Speaker 10: I know.

737
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 8: Obviously Monster Quest had a lot of resistance when it

738
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,679
first came on legitimate science, and then it was Finding

739
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:09,079
Bigfoot and Expedition Bigfoot, and I mean these are prime

740
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:10,159
time shows.

741
00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:13,079
Speaker 6: Your show was a forerunner for all those shows. I

742
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:16,960
watched every episode of Your Monster West that because I

743
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:18,840
hadn't met Da or any of them at that time,

744
00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:21,559
and that was at that time. That was the only

745
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,280
at that point, it was the only time I could,

746
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,559
you know, get any kind of on that stuff.

747
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, you're all you realize, you know, these are

748
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,239
a lot of good for a lot of witnesses that

749
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,599
felt more encouraged to kind of come forward, really realizing

750
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,000
I guess I'm not crazy because every week they could

751
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:49,199
listen to other witnesses watch the science behind it. So yeah, no,

752
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,719
it's come a long way. So any I do commend

753
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:58,679
you obviously if you're service, which is it's dangerous he has,

754
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,480
Robbie has a dangerous job, but also for the courage

755
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:04,559
to come forward.

756
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:07,519
Speaker 6: Well a lot of us got to do too. With

757
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:09,679
the chiefs that I've got. Now, he's one of those

758
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:16,960
that he doesn't. He like writing the books. He encourages that.

759
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,239
He's like anything anything you do to make yourself better,

760
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,079
I'm gonna support you as long as it's legal, he said,

761
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:25,559
and it's something that you can do to better yourself.

762
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:29,639
He said, I'm going to support it. So he's he's

763
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,000
amazing to work for and he knows that what I'm

764
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:36,000
on the shows and you know, yeah, he said, it

765
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:38,599
doesn't affect your job one way or the other, if

766
00:49:38,639 --> 00:49:39,559
you believe in that or not.

767
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 10: Yeah.

768
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 8: Well, the thing is that it's really not about believe

769
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,920
you saw something, which we're going to get into now

770
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,519
and i'd love to maybe we can start now with that.

771
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,039
But first, Jeff, just to kind of be non linear, here,

772
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:56,519
can you pop up one of his books that he's written.

773
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:06,079
This is the the reason he is writing books because

774
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:11,079
he had a Sadane when he was young younger, and

775
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:16,320
it's inspired him to do all this rating. And that's

776
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:19,639
that's powerful. I mean that Sadie had an effect on this.

777
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:26,039
Speaker 6: It's the siding and reading one of d A's books

778
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:31,159
is really what and that's that's even an even funnier

779
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,440
story of how that happened.

780
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 8: Well we'll get into that, all right, So what you

781
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:39,159
can just keep flipping through those, but you can go

782
00:50:39,199 --> 00:50:42,719
ahead and tell us, so tell us about what you saw.

783
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,519
I have no idea what you even saw.

784
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:51,159
Speaker 6: Okay, so right where I'm sitting right now is maybe

785
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,559
three hundred yards from from where I had deciding early eighties.

786
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,280
Matter of fact, my daughter just got married yes day,

787
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,920
and my mom and my dad and my uncle and

788
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,039
I were actually talking about this, and we were, you know,

789
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:08,320
because my mom said something, all those books from that

790
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:10,960
one siding you have in your kid, And I said, well,

791
00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:12,400
you know, that's what happens.

792
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,679
Speaker 13: But anyway, about three hundred yards from where.

793
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 6: I'm sitting, I want to say it was probably eighty

794
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:20,960
three eighty four somewhere in now. I was eight to

795
00:51:21,039 --> 00:51:23,079
nine years old. My little brother had just been born,

796
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:26,360
and I'm eight years older than him, so roughly in

797
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:32,480
that that time frame, let's see, I'll know, back back

798
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:35,320
then there was not a lot of uh or there

799
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,480
was no internet, obviously said it wasn't just sitting around

800
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,800
doing what we're doing right now. My grandparents, my great grandparents,

801
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,320
which was my grandmother's mother and father, was their house

802
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,840
and time. He had At one time he'd owned about

803
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,079
one hundred and eighty three I think acres around here,

804
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,519
and at that point it had dwindled, or not dwindled.

805
00:51:55,559 --> 00:51:58,559
He'd sold because he was on up in age so

806
00:51:58,679 --> 00:52:01,199
he got to where he was a farmer all his life.

807
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,800
He got to where he couldn't do the kind of

808
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,599
things he used to have to or that he used

809
00:52:05,639 --> 00:52:07,880
to to be a farmer. So he had sold a

810
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:12,719
bunch of land. It was down to probably about maybe

811
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:13,880
thirty forty acres.

812
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:16,599
Speaker 8: But what's near the acreage.

813
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 6: Right then, because he still had all that stuff in

814
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,199
that back the back area around that his house hat on,

815
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,440
it was nothing but wood. He had pastures with cows

816
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,400
and stuff like that, and there was a well we

817
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:31,480
caught it a swamp, but it wasn't not like a

818
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,559
like the Florida Everglade swamp like you showed earlier on

819
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,079
the video. But that's what we called it. But basically

820
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:39,239
just like a runoff area where the creek when it

821
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,440
overflowed from rain. He had a little farm pond and

822
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:45,199
it was fed by a little fresh water spring and

823
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,239
then that emptied off into a creek and then the

824
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,440
creek would run off in certain areas and we just

825
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,840
me and my cousins as kids, would just call it

826
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,239
the swamp. Like I said, it wasn't technically a swamp,

827
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:01,039
but it was just it was probably seventeen eighteen acres

828
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,880
worth of just dense woodland in that flat area that

829
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,039
would get you know, really swampy or muky or muddy,

830
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,880
just just a mess. I used to love to good

831
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,320
play around in that area. And my great grandmother kept me, well,

832
00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:18,400
my great grandmother and the great grandfather kept me because

833
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,599
my grandparents were still working. My mom my stepdad still worked.

834
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:24,840
So when I during the summer or when school was out,

835
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:27,639
but when I got out of school, that's where I stayed,

836
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:31,239
and my great grandmother would always tell me, don't you

837
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,119
go too far in woods, or the boogers will get you.

838
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,320
Back then, I didn't know what booker meant. I didn't,

839
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:37,800
you know. I just thought it was a term for

840
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,239
a monster or something, just something she was telling me.

841
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:42,880
You know, I didn't find out untill probably four or

842
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,320
five years ago that that was just another term for bigfoot.

843
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:49,440
So but she would always say that don't you go

844
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:52,400
too far in woods, the boogers will get you. So

845
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,119
this night, my grandparents, my great grandparents, my and my

846
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,400
mom were all sitting out on the front porch and

847
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,199
my great grandpa's house talking. They had the old yellow

848
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,440
suffer lights, the gopher lights as we called him, Hey,

849
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,480
William and I it was had to be a Friday

850
00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:12,800
night because I think I was in there watching the

851
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,719
Dukes of Hazard, because that was my show, and my dad,

852
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:20,679
my stepdad worked for the Sheriff's office and he was

853
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,800
on second shift then. And this was before cell phones

854
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,119
and pagers and all that kind of stuff. So as

855
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:32,719
the show ended, I got up reached over to turn

856
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,400
the TV off. It was an old farmhouse, so I

857
00:54:35,519 --> 00:54:39,159
was sitting in the front room or excuse me, the

858
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,760
den then the front room was in was directly in

859
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,360
front of me, which led out of the front porch,

860
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:46,920
but directly off to my right was the kitchen, and

861
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,800
then a little mudroom or what we call the back porch.

862
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,559
Speaker 13: But it's just a little place where, you know, when

863
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:52,360
Paul come in out.

864
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,559
Speaker 6: Of the field whatever, he take his boots off, add

865
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:57,039
a little chair for him to sit there and take

866
00:54:57,079 --> 00:54:59,760
his boots off, and uh so he wouldn't track mud

867
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,599
through Annie's house. But excuse me, just just a little

868
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,599
mudroom or back porch. Well back then, when they built houses,

869
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,840
especially if you didn't have the money for it, you

870
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,960
couldn't afford to bring a bulldozer or anything like that.

871
00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:14,400
End to level the land and make sure the house

872
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:17,400
was sat perfectly flat. You just you started building and

873
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,559
wherever the house was high or low, you know, you'd

874
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:24,000
stack block to level everything out. Well, that side of

875
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,800
the house was pretty high off the ground. It was

876
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,760
probably maybe six seven block high. So they had one

877
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,920
of those old uh cement steps that you go buy

878
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,679
from Lows or whatever back then, and had a little

879
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:42,159
screen door, a little storm door, and I would say

880
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:50,360
the bottom of the floor was probably probably five feet

881
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,159
off the ground where the where the floorboards were. So

882
00:55:56,119 --> 00:55:58,679
when I when I stood up and turned the TV off,

883
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,599
widened and I, this is something that I'll never know

884
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,280
the answer to, but why I decided to turn my

885
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,400
head to the right and look out through that The

886
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,159
only light on was in the room I was in,

887
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,440
And they obviously they had a light on that little

888
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,800
yellow lights side on the front porch, but only in

889
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,320
the house. The only light on was in there over

890
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,760
the overhead of the room that I was in. So

891
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,800
the kitchen was dark, and that little back porch aerry

892
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,599
was dark. But you know, you could still see through

893
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,400
into the kitchen and out to the back door, but

894
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,440
you couldn't see anything outside because it was dark outside

895
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,280
was I look, I see the storm door, and I

896
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,440
saw something outside the storm door. But you know, at

897
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,320
first I didn't know what I was looking at. So

898
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,800
I sat there and looked at it for a second,

899
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,639
and then I noticed it was moving. And then the

900
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,039
face came into uh came into focus. Which when I

901
00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:51,519
say came into focus, I mean in my mind, because

902
00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:54,199
you know, it was never out of focus. It was

903
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,159
just I wasn't focusing on it.

904
00:56:58,039 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 10: And so.

905
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 6: As the face came in the frame, I noticed, you know,

906
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,079
the around the eyes, the nose area, and the lips

907
00:57:06,159 --> 00:57:08,159
and out there was no no hair. I couldn't tell

908
00:57:08,199 --> 00:57:10,280
what color of the fur was. It was dark.

909
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,119
Speaker 13: I say it was a dark color, but that's all

910
00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:15,960
I know. But all this there was no hair around.

911
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,159
Speaker 6: That the typical uh patty shaped head. And I hadn't

912
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,639
at this point, had not seen that video, but that

913
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:28,800
conical shaped head, but I noticed it was it was

914
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,719
just sitting there, swaying. And that's something that burned into

915
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,519
my mind, and I didn't realize it did, but it did.

916
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,239
And that's that'll come into play later when we talk

917
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:43,679
about the story with DA. So as I'm in my mind,

918
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,079
it felt like it was this took like fifteen twenty

919
00:57:46,159 --> 00:57:48,440
minutes to process, but you know, in reality, it was

920
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,360
probably like five six seconds, you know, just like that,

921
00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:56,599
because all of a sudden, everything just like the gears

922
00:57:56,679 --> 00:57:59,599
lined up and everything spun. That paradigm shift happened, happened,

923
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:02,119
and I was like monster, That's the only only word

924
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:04,679
that came into my mind. So I turned around, high

925
00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:08,519
tail that on the front porch, and I was, you know,

926
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:12,039
just inconsolable at that point. Is telling my mom, I said,

927
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:13,679
you gotta call dad, Call dad, Call dad. I gotta

928
00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:15,039
get dad out here, Get that out here, get that.

929
00:58:15,159 --> 00:58:17,159
She's like, Robbie Coln down what is going on? Your

930
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,239
dad's at work? What do you We'll get Uncle Brian

931
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,280
down here. Because my uncle was six five, about three

932
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,280
hundred something pounds, played football in my mind, and nobody

933
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,719
could beat my stepdad or my uncle.

934
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,079
Speaker 13: My stepdad was a cop, my uncle was a big guy.

935
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,440
I needed one of them down there.

936
00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 6: Like post taste, as Doc would say, I needed somebody

937
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,320
down there quick. Well, you know, like I said earlier,

938
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,559
no cell phones, no pagers, no no nothing like this.

939
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,519
So to get Dad and get him over there. He

940
00:58:46,639 --> 00:58:49,440
was out out on the road working U second shift.

941
00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:52,079
She had to call dispatch. Let dispatch know, I need

942
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,079
my husband to call. I'm down here at my great grandparents.

943
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:01,239
He's got the number my grandparents, excuse me, And so

944
00:59:01,559 --> 00:59:04,079
you have to call dispatch. Dispatch has to radio him.

945
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,039
He has to drive somewhere where he can you know,

946
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:10,320
this nine o'clock at night back in the early eighties.

947
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,079
There's not a lot of places open twenty four to

948
00:59:12,119 --> 00:59:15,920
seven back then, So he had to drive to where

949
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,000
he had access to a phone to be able to call.

950
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,559
So it was a process. So, you know, they get

951
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:25,760
my uncle down there first, and like I said, my

952
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,840
uncle six five. So he goes out and stands on

953
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,320
the back porch when he gets out. He just lived

954
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,440
right up the road, still does, and he stands on

955
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,679
I think he's probably on either the first step down

956
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,000
or maybe the second step down, and he's standing there

957
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,199
and he's he says, see, it's just a shadow you

958
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:44,840
used to see And I might no, Uncle, Brian, I said,

959
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,960
because I looked and I could see his head, you know,

960
00:59:48,039 --> 00:59:50,519
the little center section of the door where you would

961
00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:53,679
pinch those little things or raise the storm window up

962
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,199
and had the screen and the storm it blows, it

963
00:59:56,239 --> 00:59:59,760
won't blow break the door. That little center bar was

964
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:04,559
like right here on his head. This thing's head was

965
01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:06,800
up because it was kind of bent down, and the

966
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:09,239
top of the door still cut off about that much

967
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:14,840
of its head. So, like I said, he's six'. Five

968
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:19,119
so you do the. Extrapolation i'm saying this thing was

969
01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:22,039
probably we're eleven to twelve feet eleven and a half

970
01:00:22,039 --> 01:00:23,079
twelve feet somewhere Around.

971
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 8: Robbie how far away do you think it? Was SO.

972
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 6: I was right at the doorway to where the teeth

973
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,400
where they had THEIR, tv was right at the door

974
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,599
of the, kitchen old timey farm. Kitchen it's probably ten feet,

975
01:00:37,679 --> 01:00:42,719
long let's say, exactly you, know just from accurate. MEASUREMENT i.

976
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:44,679
DON'T i couldn't tell you accurately how long it, was

977
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,920
but that room ten, feet then probably another three feet

978
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,920
of that three or four feet of that little. Mudroom

979
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,320
SO i was within twenty feet of, it let's just

980
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,199
put it that. WAY i, say that's that's a. Wow

981
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,079
that being able to go over to that, house go

982
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:05,039
over there and measure. IT i would say that's probably

983
01:01:05,079 --> 01:01:07,119
a safe yest to say twenty feet.

984
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:11,159
Speaker 8: Was it's pretty. Close, Yeah.

985
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 6: And i've been asked a, question will you think it

986
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,480
wanted to get you on My, no because if it

987
01:01:16,639 --> 01:01:20,199
wanted to get in that, house there wasn't nothing stopping

988
01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:23,000
it but one of them little flimsy storm. Doors, YEAH

989
01:01:23,719 --> 01:01:25,480
i would if it wanted, ME i wouldn't be sitting

990
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:26,079
here talking right.

991
01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 10: Now probably just wanted to see what was your exact?

992
01:01:30,039 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 6: AGE i was probably between eight and. NINE i was

993
01:01:35,519 --> 01:01:37,719
probably eight on on the way to, nine depending on

994
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,679
what exact month it wasn't because that's that's the thing

995
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,599
THAT i can't. Remember we were even talking about. Yesterday

996
01:01:43,639 --> 01:01:46,039
we can't remember exactly what month it. Was we know

997
01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:49,239
my brother Was my brother was born In january of eighty,

998
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:54,360
two so it was, somewhere AND i would have turned

999
01:01:55,519 --> 01:01:59,679
nine In november of that month or that year, Rather i'm,

1000
01:01:59,679 --> 01:02:04,079
Sorry so it was somewhere Between january And november of eighty.

1001
01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:07,679
Two SO i was probably pretty close to nine at the.

1002
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:19,599
Speaker 8: Time all, Right so you can, Continue, Robbie so this resolve.

1003
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,119
Speaker 13: Well so obviously none of the adults there believe. Me

1004
01:02:24,719 --> 01:02:25,920
my stepdad gets, there.

1005
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 6: He kind of gets me calm, down and he didn't believe.

1006
01:02:31,519 --> 01:02:34,880
Me either you. Know he was, like you, know he

1007
01:02:35,239 --> 01:02:37,079
got this book or this magazine he used to get

1008
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:40,039
it all the time Called Police, beat and they had

1009
01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:42,920
an issue in there one, time AND i can't remember

1010
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,039
what the term. Is it's not, paradolia but it was

1011
01:02:45,159 --> 01:02:48,840
it's like, paradolia but it's something like and basically the

1012
01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:52,239
cover shows it's like a shadow of a big creature

1013
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,320
coming around the. Corner when the next picture on, it

1014
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,559
on the inside of, it it's just garbage stacked up

1015
01:02:57,599 --> 01:02:59,639
outside of a door and you see the shadow in

1016
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:02,719
the alley and it looks like something that's not That

1017
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,679
it may be a form of, paradol you BUT i

1018
01:03:04,719 --> 01:03:07,599
don't think that was the actual word they. Used but

1019
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,440
so he was, like that's what it. Was he was

1020
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,159
trying to explain it away with, that AND i was, like,

1021
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,800
no that's not what it. Was they went out the

1022
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:22,199
next day looking for, footprints, supposedly but that was real

1023
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,280
hard packed ground and it hadn't rained in a, while

1024
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,360
so there was it was just like almost like concrete out, there,

1025
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,400
Basically but they told me they didn't find. ANYTHING i

1026
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,360
don't know if they did or they, didn't because sometime

1027
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,159
within the next week or two after, that my, stepdad my,

1028
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,039
uncle my, grandpa my great grandpa went out into that

1029
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:46,800
swamp area looking for a bear that was supposedly scared the.

1030
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:53,159
Speaker 8: Cows, so, okay so you had so you had cows

1031
01:03:53,199 --> 01:03:56,639
that were. Scared what other things happened around the homestead

1032
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,519
that you can? Remember people? Mentioned were there other? Things

1033
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:04,400
any house, bangs rock, throws any other?

1034
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:08,119
Speaker 13: There that was the one and only thing THAT i

1035
01:04:08,239 --> 01:04:08,719
can think of.

1036
01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 6: There but now WHEN i went to my real dad

1037
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:17,639
every other, weekend he lived off of web of because

1038
01:04:17,679 --> 01:04:20,480
there's actually my old chief is in the chat and

1039
01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:22,480
he doesn't live my dad doesn't live far from where he,

1040
01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:26,719
lives and that that is a that's a it always

1041
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,159
has been and it still is a pretty sparsely populated.

1042
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,320
Area and there's some things THAT i heard WHEN i

1043
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,880
was a kid that not knowing anything that don't have The.

1044
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,920
INTERNET i about ninety nine point nine nine to nine

1045
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,760
percent Sure i've heard calls and wood knocks up there

1046
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,559
THAT i just didn't think anything, about because you, know

1047
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,199
you just didn't know about it back, then BECAUSE i

1048
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:50,920
remember hearing.

1049
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,519
Speaker 13: Stuff you, know my two step sisters we got, playing

1050
01:04:54,639 --> 01:04:55,440
we'd hear something with all.

1051
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,719
Speaker 6: Three, stop what is that? All must be a bird

1052
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,000
or something or you, know a stick must have fell

1053
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:02,320
out of the tree or. Something you, know you just

1054
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:07,199
explained it. Away BUT i WOULD i would be one hundred,

1055
01:05:07,199 --> 01:05:10,159
percent almost one hundred percent sure that we've heard stuff

1056
01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:12,760
up there and just didn't know what we were here, in,

1057
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,920
Right but that's them around here. Though that's the only

1058
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:23,159
because that area was really The there was another guy

1059
01:05:23,239 --> 01:05:25,400
that was about my grandfather great grandfather's age that had

1060
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:29,599
some land over there behind this, land and that was

1061
01:05:29,639 --> 01:05:33,719
about the two biggest areas that were still un touched

1062
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,639
as far as people putting houses and stuff. In but

1063
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:42,440
now since, then my stepdad actually looked at THE bfroo

1064
01:05:43,199 --> 01:05:47,079
and there was actually a sighting within a couple of

1065
01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:53,719
months of, mine well that same, year probably six miles

1066
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,480
from here at the same.

1067
01:05:55,559 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 8: Time so.

1068
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:01,599
Speaker 6: Interesting, yeah and that's one of the things that kind

1069
01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:03,079
of let him down the road to start believing.

1070
01:06:03,159 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 8: Me you.

1071
01:06:03,519 --> 01:06:06,639
Speaker 6: Know plus he being in law enforcement for forty years

1072
01:06:06,719 --> 01:06:10,000
and he ended up he was a. Detective he was

1073
01:06:10,039 --> 01:06:15,639
actually lieutenant over the juvenile, division and he's interviewed thousands

1074
01:06:15,679 --> 01:06:19,519
and thousands of, people and he said the one thing

1075
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:22,400
that he. Notices he's, like you, know you might remember

1076
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,119
a detail that you just didn't, remember he, said but

1077
01:06:25,199 --> 01:06:30,159
your story for forty plus years has never, changed he.

1078
01:06:30,199 --> 01:06:32,840
Said he's even told me here. Recently he's, like you,

1079
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,960
Know i've watched some of the replays of shows that

1080
01:06:36,039 --> 01:06:38,800
you've told told the story, on and it's still the

1081
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,480
exact same story you told when you, were you, know

1082
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:44,199
eight or nine years. Old he said that that doesn't.

1083
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:48,039
Happen and this is going from somebody who spent forty

1084
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:50,920
years in law. Enforcement he, said that doesn't. Happen you

1085
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,679
don't keep telling the exact same story the exact same,

1086
01:06:53,679 --> 01:06:55,440
way if it's a, lie if it's you, know just,

1087
01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:00,440
imagination he, said the story, itself other than remembering detail

1088
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,440
here or, there like oh, yeah you, know now THAT

1089
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,679
i really think about it and process, IT i do

1090
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,719
remember that it was, swayed OR i do remember that

1091
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,519
it turned its, head or you, know just a little

1092
01:07:09,519 --> 01:07:09,920
stuff like.

1093
01:07:10,039 --> 01:07:13,599
Speaker 13: That but the fundamentals of the story has never.

1094
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 8: Changed did you notice any eye any eye, glower eye,

1095
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:20,639
movement you, know.

1096
01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 6: And you know that that was one of the first

1097
01:07:22,519 --> 01:07:24,280
questions D a asked me when he AND i got

1098
01:07:24,679 --> 01:07:28,599
uh first started hanging. AROUND i don't know THAT i

1099
01:07:28,639 --> 01:07:30,119
did or, not because LIKE i, said there was the

1100
01:07:30,239 --> 01:07:35,159
only light that was on was inside the. House so

1101
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,000
if it, did it didn't register to me because it's

1102
01:07:39,199 --> 01:07:42,719
literally once that face came into focus in my mind

1103
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,360
and WHAT i was looking, AT i didn't stay around

1104
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:51,039
and look at look at it. ANYMORE i, yeah because you,

1105
01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:53,119
know it's like you're looking at it and you don't,

1106
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:54,519
know you don't know what you're looking, at and then

1107
01:07:54,559 --> 01:07:58,199
all of a, sudden everything just that you, know oh crap.

1108
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 8: Gone did you get? Bumps did you?

1109
01:08:01,079 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 13: Get the first TIME i told the story on D a, show.

1110
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 6: And It's i've said this like if you if you

1111
01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:14,079
Watch Fred roll tell his, story because his, story his

1112
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:20,039
encounter happened when he was, had you can you can

1113
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:23,279
really see how it Affects. Fred there's there's just there's

1114
01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:25,319
no way around. It and it still affects. Me BUT

1115
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:28,239
i think BECAUSE i had it so young and have

1116
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,439
had so many, years and plus WHAT i do for

1117
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,640
a living and the, things you, KNOW i Think i've

1118
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:39,880
just had time to process. It and in the WHEN

1119
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,720
i had it at the the young, age my mind

1120
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:47,119
was able to rebound and it was it's still a paradigm.

1121
01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 13: Shift it still affected. Me it still affects me thinking about.

1122
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:55,039
Speaker 8: It let's let's talk about the paramo paradigm. Shift because

1123
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,039
you're inner. Nine did you have your head on a

1124
01:08:59,119 --> 01:09:00,920
swivel every time he went? Outside?

1125
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 6: YOU i was always in the, woods AND i still

1126
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,920
went in the woods after. That but after, that it

1127
01:09:09,159 --> 01:09:13,319
wasn't just walk, around was hanging sticks around with. Whatever you,

1128
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:15,560
know you, know it was, like, okay.

1129
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,039
Speaker 8: You were aware of your.

1130
01:09:17,119 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 6: Surroundings, yes, exactly because it's, like you, know and we

1131
01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:27,800
talked to people all the, time and once it's, like

1132
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,600
once that switch is, flipped you can't flip it. Back you.

1133
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,880
Don't you don't go back to the, happy go lucky thinking.

1134
01:09:36,039 --> 01:09:40,359
THERE i, mean, yep. EXACTLY i talked about.

1135
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:43,119
Speaker 13: That He williams actually the one that kind of helped

1136
01:09:43,159 --> 01:09:43,640
me come to that.

1137
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 6: CONCLUSION i was on his show and me and him

1138
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,239
talked for a good while before and after the, show

1139
01:09:50,279 --> 01:09:52,800
and he helped me come to that conclusion that BECAUSE

1140
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,880
i was so, young that's probably WHY i was able

1141
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:55,880
to process it so much.

1142
01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:01,520
Speaker 8: Better did you did? You i'm doing? ANYTHING i, mean

1143
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,560
did you go in the woods? Less did?

1144
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 6: YOU i don't THINK i went in the woods, less

1145
01:10:06,079 --> 01:10:06,640
a little.

1146
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 8: More afraid of the dark going outside that.

1147
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,159
Speaker 6: Night BUT i think it's just more more like What

1148
01:10:11,279 --> 01:10:13,600
cross saying is just the and the head on the.

1149
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,720
Swivels LIKE i went. Out MAYBE i didn't go out

1150
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,760
quite as far AS i used. To maybe MAYBE i

1151
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,279
was listening a little bit more to don't you go

1152
01:10:21,399 --> 01:10:25,000
so far in? Woods instead of thinking whatever it was, like,

1153
01:10:25,239 --> 01:10:27,039
uh got, YOU i ain't going?

1154
01:10:27,119 --> 01:10:30,560
Speaker 8: Far what what about being creeped out by the windows

1155
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,920
or when you walked into that kitchen? Again that that.

1156
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 6: That was the difference difference BECAUSE i didn't want TO

1157
01:10:40,119 --> 01:10:42,159
i didn't want to sit in there by myself and WATCH.

1158
01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:44,319
Tv BUT i would sit out on reports for them

1159
01:10:44,319 --> 01:10:47,960
and listen to them talking there and WATCH. Tv that that.

1160
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:51,079
Changed BUT i guess being outside during the, DAY i

1161
01:10:51,119 --> 01:10:53,399
didn't really think about it as. MUCH i, mean DID

1162
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,760
i thought about, it BUT i. DIDN'T i didn't feel

1163
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,159
because there, again you don't we didn't know as much

1164
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,359
then as we do. NOW i GUESS i thought it

1165
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,960
was something that only came out at. Night i'm thinking

1166
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,399
that's the WHAT i was thinking in my head as

1167
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,199
an eight nine year, old you, know that was at,

1168
01:11:10,279 --> 01:11:13,720
Night so so my patterns did change at night WHEN

1169
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,640
i was down, THERE i WOULDN'T i wouldn't sit there

1170
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,279
in the in the den by myself and WATCH tv

1171
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,479
while they were out in the front. PORCH i was

1172
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:21,439
always out there on the front.

1173
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 8: Porch, yeah, YEAH i mean that's actually pretty traumatic, though

1174
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,039
for a kid to go through, actually and then and

1175
01:11:31,159 --> 01:11:35,439
then not have the support of your family. Either it's not.

1176
01:11:36,279 --> 01:11:38,159
Speaker 6: Well LIKE i, said my stepdad has come around to

1177
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:44,079
believe in, me and my uncle is more long lines

1178
01:11:44,119 --> 01:11:46,720
OF i don't know if it was, bigfoot BUT i

1179
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:51,920
do believe that you saw. Something. Yeah my mom's kind of, like,

1180
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,079
WELL i think he saw something that upset, you BUT i.

1181
01:11:54,119 --> 01:11:58,880
DON'T i don't know what it. Is and both my

1182
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,359
great grandparents and and my grandparents are gone, now SO

1183
01:12:01,399 --> 01:12:05,000
i don't know what they. Feel and by the TIME

1184
01:12:05,079 --> 01:12:07,159
i was able, to you, know as an, adult was

1185
01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:09,239
able to start putting all this stuff, together they were all.

1186
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,159
Gone SO i really couldn't go to them and start

1187
01:12:12,199 --> 01:12:14,359
saying asking questions About, okay well when you said, this

1188
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,000
what did you really? Mean or when you went down

1189
01:12:17,079 --> 01:12:19,399
what did you you? Know and that's one of my

1190
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,840
biggest regrets of this as they were gone BEFORE i

1191
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,479
really got into, this and AND i know some of

1192
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,560
the stuff THAT i know now that, now, WELL i

1193
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,359
WISH i could have asked them that question now THAT

1194
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,319
i know what to, Ask but you, KNOW i repressed

1195
01:12:33,359 --> 01:12:33,600
it for so.

1196
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 8: Long it just so there's kind of a. Delay so

1197
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:50,680
accidentally talking over, you that's, fine, Uh art, asked can

1198
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,600
you tell us more about the face.

1199
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,279
Speaker 10: It, well the.

1200
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,319
Speaker 6: The way that The patterson gimblin Went patty turned the,

1201
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,439
uh the circle of the way the eyes were sunk,

1202
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,880
in and the large flat nose and the. Lips that's

1203
01:13:09,239 --> 01:13:11,840
exactly WHAT i AND i hadn't seen that video at the.

1204
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,760
TIME i didn't see that video and that's it's and

1205
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,039
ONCE i saw that video and Saw Boggy creek after,

1206
01:13:17,159 --> 01:13:21,640
that uh that that kind of changed the WAY i

1207
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,680
thought a little bit BECAUSE i was, like, oh this

1208
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:31,079
is kind of. Scary so uh but, yeah it was

1209
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:33,680
that same those same features of the the eyes kind

1210
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,399
of sunk, in the large flat.

1211
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: Nose.

1212
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,279
Speaker 6: Ah just LIKE i, said this area right here and

1213
01:13:40,359 --> 01:13:43,560
around the nose there was no no fur that covered

1214
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:48,079
it that it was all. Skin flash for everyone, say,

1215
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,079
uh the conical shaped. HEAD i mean that it looked

1216
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:57,279
almost identical to what the patty uh looked like walking

1217
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,199
On Bluff. CREEK i, SAID i don't know what color

1218
01:14:01,239 --> 01:14:03,000
the fur. WAS i just know it was dark because

1219
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:05,880
it was it was dark eyed. Sides it was a

1220
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,079
dark COLOR i assumed HAVE i always assumed that it

1221
01:14:09,159 --> 01:14:12,640
was black because that's what it looked. Like but that's

1222
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:13,199
just because it was.

1223
01:14:13,279 --> 01:14:16,359
Speaker 4: Dark, YEAH i was going to say the one THAT

1224
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,600
i saw about one hundred and twenty feet away during the.

1225
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:22,800
Daytime you, know the skin was a dark gray and

1226
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,399
so and it seemed seemed description that you just gave.

1227
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 6: Exactly, So, yeah that would be would be the closest

1228
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,880
THING i could say yet To, yes that was the.

1229
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:38,640
Color it was a dark. Color whether it was, gray, black,

1230
01:14:40,119 --> 01:14:42,399
BROWN i don't. Know it was a darker. Color so

1231
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,239
dark gray works for, Me, yeah BECAUSE i HONESTLY i

1232
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:52,279
don't because even twenty feet away through basically two dark

1233
01:14:52,399 --> 01:14:58,840
rooms with nothing wanting you, know nineteen eighties of that

1234
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,399
wasn't even. Florid, YEAH i guess it would have been

1235
01:15:00,399 --> 01:15:05,479
a floor us. Involved then you, know overhead light don't

1236
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,760
get a whole lot of light. Details so where is.

1237
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:16,119
Speaker 8: Your fear level at? Now are you still pretty trusting

1238
01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:17,399
of these? Things are?

1239
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 13: YOU i don't really HAVE i don't really have a

1240
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:21,560
fear level on.

1241
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 6: This there's plenty of people in the chat will that

1242
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,720
will tell you that when we go, OUT da always

1243
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:32,159
the signs Of Robbie wrangler Because i'm apt to if

1244
01:15:32,199 --> 01:15:34,560
we see, Something i'm at to walk straight towards. It you,

1245
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,720
Know we've Had we've had several times For DA's, Son

1246
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,720
noah has had to like come up and literally grab

1247
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,079
a hold of me and, Say, nope come, on let's get.

1248
01:15:43,119 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 8: Back so.

1249
01:15:46,199 --> 01:15:51,199
Speaker 6: AND i don't think it's Because i'm, obviously it's not

1250
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:52,760
BECAUSE i got a death wish or anything like. THAT

1251
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:58,039
i think it's Just i'm one of those people THAT

1252
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,079
i just keep doing What i'm doing UNTIL i kind

1253
01:16:03,119 --> 01:16:06,000
of line THAT i just wrote my latest book out,

1254
01:16:06,039 --> 01:16:13,319
here it worked until it. Didn't i'm kind of you, know.

1255
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:18,399
Speaker 8: Do you think there's any kind of cover? Up you

1256
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:22,359
ask any hinted in the government.

1257
01:16:22,079 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 6: To Local, OBVIOUSLY i think if you say, government, YES

1258
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:32,279
i do think. SO i think if things get bad

1259
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,920
enough THAT i think government does step in and tell

1260
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:39,199
police departments and county departments we got, this you need

1261
01:16:39,279 --> 01:16:41,920
to shut up in color. Basically.

1262
01:16:42,359 --> 01:16:43,399
Speaker 8: Yeah uh.

1263
01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:47,319
Speaker 6: And and people always, asked you, know what what have you.

1264
01:16:47,399 --> 01:16:51,800
Got i've Always i've worked predominantly in municipal, agencies so

1265
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:55,840
there's not been a lot of, uh rural areas Where i've.

1266
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,319
Worked my thirty years have been mostly in with city.

1267
01:16:58,399 --> 01:17:03,159
Departments NOW i have been TO uh prowler calls where

1268
01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:06,239
that you, know it was never, WELL i saw a guy,

1269
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:10,439
HERE i saw something out here right. Now it's HAVE

1270
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,680
i been to collegers SAID i saw a guy walking across. It,

1271
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,159
yeah but there's been a lot of THEM i saw

1272
01:17:15,359 --> 01:17:19,760
something OR i heard something outside the, house not so you,

1273
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:26,720
know who. Knows, yeah in thirty, Years i've never caught that.

1274
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,600
Prowler AND i mean he's he's all over the.

1275
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:33,279
Speaker 8: Place, Well i've always felt that the government cover ups

1276
01:17:33,359 --> 01:17:38,439
For bigfoot kind of started at the local. Level if

1277
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:43,000
somebody in that department or whatever sees, anything generally it's

1278
01:17:43,239 --> 01:17:49,920
just swept under the. Rug they're probably they're surgeon and

1279
01:17:50,119 --> 01:17:50,880
talking about. It.

1280
01:17:51,079 --> 01:17:53,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, well and you, know day AND i kind of

1281
01:17:53,399 --> 01:17:55,479
talked about that joke about that all the. Time you,

1282
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,039
know if if you saw something like that and put

1283
01:17:58,039 --> 01:18:00,520
it in a. Report you'd probably going to take a

1284
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:05,319
whiz quiz next, morning see what you were? ON H, like,

1285
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:10,399
Uh rodney crypt, awareness that's that's my old chief when

1286
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,680
he was when he was a. Chief he's one THAT

1287
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,199
i and the chief That i've got, now of the

1288
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:17,920
all the chiefs That i've worked, for that's the only

1289
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,840
two THAT i would trust to go to and, say,

1290
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,279
hey this is really WHAT i. Saw we might not

1291
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,520
put it in a report, still but it wouldn't be

1292
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,319
because it was a cover up and be, like all,

1293
01:18:27,399 --> 01:18:29,560
right well we don't need for them to put you

1294
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,439
out for psych. Evaluation BUT i would Trust rodney or

1295
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:33,960
the chief THAT i work for now be the only

1296
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,600
two That i've worked for THAT i would ever trust

1297
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,800
to go say this is really WHAT i. Saw but

1298
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:40,159
so to that, END i don't know if it's a

1299
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:43,399
cover up more than it's an officer. CENT i don't

1300
01:18:43,399 --> 01:18:45,439
want to be labeled as crazy fir as the guy

1301
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:46,119
who saw big.

1302
01:18:48,199 --> 01:18:52,039
Speaker 4: Unknown, YEAH i was going to, SAY i was going to,

1303
01:18:52,079 --> 01:18:55,199
say you, know you sharing that with, them you, know

1304
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,760
it's like you're giving them a bowlo right beyond the lookout,

1305
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,800
right you know this this happened to, me and you,

1306
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,359
know and it was in this, area and you, know

1307
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:07,399
keep your head on the.

1308
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,159
Speaker 6: Swivel, right, yeah, yeah.

1309
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:15,359
Speaker 8: So is The. No, no is the door on that

1310
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,439
home that you saw this thing is it's still there

1311
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:19,840
and the door and everything.

1312
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 6: That, uh that house has been sold like oh maybe three.

1313
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,600
Times and show the guy who's got it. Now he's

1314
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,640
a big time. Contractor so he came in there and

1315
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:35,399
he totally remodeled, everything gutted, it and, uh it sits

1316
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,479
in the same orientation that it, did but where that door,

1317
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:42,199
was he built a big two car garage and, so,

1318
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,479
no it's not still. There and of course he came,

1319
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:48,199
in he leveled everything out and it's not like like

1320
01:19:48,319 --> 01:19:50,079
it was before because on the far end of the

1321
01:19:50,119 --> 01:19:52,560
house was maybe like a one or two block. Run

1322
01:19:53,079 --> 01:19:55,399
decided that it was onst like five to five to

1323
01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:01,159
seven block. Run so it Was, however however, tall let's

1324
01:20:01,159 --> 01:20:05,279
say five cinderblocks are off the. Ground is how much

1325
01:20:05,319 --> 01:20:06,479
they needed to do to level that.

1326
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 8: Out, Yeah, well if people can imagine eleven to twelve

1327
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,079
foot tall, creature that's.

1328
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 10: Huge it's hard to that's.

1329
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 6: Shoulders shoulders were outside the the sides of the, doorframe

1330
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,800
because that's the only WAY i saw shoulders was when

1331
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,079
it was. SWAYING i could, see like you, know the

1332
01:20:30,119 --> 01:20:32,000
side of the shoulder would dip into the door every

1333
01:20:32,079 --> 01:20:34,520
every time it would, want you, know sway this way

1334
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,000
that one would dip. In that's the only WAY i

1335
01:20:37,039 --> 01:20:37,439
could see the.

1336
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:41,079
Speaker 8: Shoulders do you think it was interested because of you

1337
01:20:41,359 --> 01:20:44,239
and that you were a juvenile and probably didn't seem?

1338
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,359
THREATENING i kind.

1339
01:20:47,399 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 6: Of we were talking about that one night AND i,

1340
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,239
said you know, what and this just hit me when

1341
01:20:52,279 --> 01:20:54,479
when somebody said that the same thing or that same

1342
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,560
form of, QUESTION i, said you know, what like when

1343
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,600
we go to the zoo and we look at animals in,

1344
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,279
cage IS i think houses are their, Zoos so that's

1345
01:21:03,359 --> 01:21:05,279
just going in there just they're just looking at the

1346
01:21:05,359 --> 01:21:11,119
specimens inside The, no, no look at that. One THAT'S i,

1347
01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:15,520
mean that's there's so many you, know stories of, that

1348
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,640
of things like that. HAPPENING i think it's just. Curiosity

1349
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,479
they're just you, know they see. SOMETHING i just want

1350
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:21,880
to see, what you, know just like we are we

1351
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,840
walk up and look in the. Window what's that in?

1352
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:24,720
There you?

1353
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 13: KNOW i think that's just their natural.

1354
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 8: Curiosity, yeah.

1355
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 10: Wondering why we live in a.

1356
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,399
Speaker 8: Box, guy you, asked you, know what does the strange

1357
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,560
as wildness encounter for a police call that you've ever

1358
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:43,600
maybe taken or or have you ever heard? Of is

1359
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,279
there one THAT i obviously we all know about The

1360
01:21:46,399 --> 01:21:47,039
Martin grove.

1361
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:54,079
Speaker 6: Situation as far as ME i, HAVE i haven't had

1362
01:21:54,079 --> 01:21:57,920
anything that jumps out as that's scripted or. Supernatural. Uh,

1363
01:21:58,039 --> 01:22:02,239
NOW i do have a buddy that he was my

1364
01:22:03,399 --> 01:22:08,800
lieutenant at another agency THAT i worked, at and.

1365
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:14,119
Speaker 8: This it WAS.

1366
01:22:16,199 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 6: I can't. REMEMBER i want to say it was an

1367
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,840
old movie theater one time and they bought it and

1368
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,720
turned it into a funeral. Home and he was coming.

1369
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,359
In and the way we did at that, shift we

1370
01:22:27,399 --> 01:22:30,680
were stowing eight hour, shifts so the oncoming shift would

1371
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,760
take calls for the off going, shifts so the off

1372
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,399
going shift go. Right the report was he was coming,

1373
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,119
in he hears the h the off one of the

1374
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:42,279
off going guys get a call to that uh, mortuary

1375
01:22:42,319 --> 01:22:44,680
and he's, like, Well i'm. Close so he radiod and

1376
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,119
told the guy he'd be. There in that, way he was,

1377
01:22:47,159 --> 01:22:48,600
like if there was any report that needed to be,

1378
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,319
done he would take. It and that guy could go.

1379
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,680
Home so they get there and they go in and

1380
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:57,640
they had a, little uh little coffee shop built into

1381
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,479
the to the front lobby, area but he did already

1382
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,880
close and this little girl was the only one. There

1383
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,960
she was getting doing the last bit of. Paperwork she

1384
01:23:05,039 --> 01:23:08,000
was like the front, desk receptions or. Whatever she was

1385
01:23:08,039 --> 01:23:10,279
trying to get all her stuff ready to close up

1386
01:23:10,359 --> 01:23:13,680
and go. Home and she says she looked up and

1387
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,399
she saw a guy. Walking she never heard the, Door

1388
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:21,319
she just saw herd a guy walking and he walked

1389
01:23:21,399 --> 01:23:23,199
right by her and she was, like, sir CAN i help?

1390
01:23:23,239 --> 01:23:26,079
You and he just kept on walking and walked into

1391
01:23:26,119 --> 01:23:29,319
the back and so she was freaked. Out so she

1392
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,600
calls the. Police, well my buddy and the other guy

1393
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,600
show up and she tells. Them they, said all, right

1394
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,720
well what was he? Wearing and she describes it AND

1395
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,199
i don't remember the exact clothing, description which doesn't really,

1396
01:23:41,239 --> 01:23:43,560
matter and you'll see why in a. Minute but they

1397
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:48,680
got the description and they start searching the. Place they

1398
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:54,119
search all, offices they search all the. Rooms nothing was,

1399
01:23:54,199 --> 01:23:56,640
locked so they got into. Everything they worked their way.

1400
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:02,279
Down they get the one room left and the last

1401
01:24:02,359 --> 01:24:06,920
room they had left the search. WAS i guess it's

1402
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:08,680
still it was called the most before they get the

1403
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:14,000
bodies ready through the processing and all that, stuff and

1404
01:24:14,119 --> 01:24:18,760
every both's, like, well we got to search. It they

1405
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:23,279
go in And i've heard him tell this story probably twenty,

1406
01:24:23,359 --> 01:24:26,239
times and it's never changed. Once he, said they walk

1407
01:24:26,319 --> 01:24:30,640
in and they see a guy laying on the the preparation,

1408
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,199
table only body there getting ready to be.

1409
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 13: Prepped and he's wearing the exact same thing that that girl.

1410
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 6: Described oh.

1411
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:38,199
Speaker 4: Wow.

1412
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 6: Said they looked at each other and, said uh, yeah let's.

1413
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,760
Go so they went back out and little girl, said

1414
01:24:45,039 --> 01:24:45,560
did you find?

1415
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 8: Him he?

1416
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 6: Was they were, like, no he must he must have

1417
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,199
got out of another, Door so let's go ahead and

1418
01:24:49,199 --> 01:24:51,359
shut this thing out and. Go but the funny thing,

1419
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,760
is he said he looked down when he was listening

1420
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,000
to her talk to his partner and tell the description.

1421
01:24:58,079 --> 01:25:00,640
Everything he looked, down and BECAUSE i, said it was

1422
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,159
pouring down, rain he said he saw uh wet footprints

1423
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,319
in the lobby leading back out or into the back

1424
01:25:07,359 --> 01:25:10,520
of the. Rooms they actually thought they had somebody in,

1425
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,399
there and the only thing that was in there was

1426
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,479
that was that body laying on the. Table when you

1427
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:17,000
say wet.

1428
01:25:17,079 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 8: Footprints do you mean not not blood or anything.

1429
01:25:21,079 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 13: Like like you'd come in from outside outside the.

1430
01:25:23,079 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 6: Rain that's.

1431
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:39,520
Speaker 8: Creepy Nice thanks for that. One do you uh ever

1432
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,399
get any or pterodactyl.

1433
01:25:43,039 --> 01:25:46,319
Speaker 6: Settings i've heard of, them BUT i DON'T i don't

1434
01:25:46,359 --> 01:25:50,479
think now nothing around. HERE i think that's that's more

1435
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,720
like something happens around The, midwest like, well there's a

1436
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:59,279
lot more open. Space that's not saying that there's not

1437
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,560
something around. Here BUT i know that there's been a

1438
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,680
lot of sightings of, them But i've never personally had

1439
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,359
one or heard of anybody around here that had. ONE

1440
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,399
i Think jessica said that she might have talked to

1441
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,359
somebody one time that said they might have saw one

1442
01:26:13,399 --> 01:26:15,159
somewhere Around North, georgia where she does a lot of her,

1443
01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:19,079
investigations BUT i can't remember for sure if that was

1444
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,640
what she. SAID i know she's taken reports of dinosaur

1445
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,520
people saying there was dinosaurs they've, Seen but.

1446
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,159
Speaker 13: That's just me hearing her. Talk that's not not hearing

1447
01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:33,359
a story or. Anything have you or any of.

1448
01:26:33,399 --> 01:26:37,279
Speaker 8: The people that you know ever seen anything any decent ufo?

1449
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:43,079
Speaker 6: Savings, well funny she mentioned that BECAUSE.

1450
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:45,039
Speaker 8: I had.

1451
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:56,359
Speaker 6: Ye last, YEAR i THINK i went Down Mary zabelle

1452
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,359
invited me down to one of her uh one of her,

1453
01:26:59,399 --> 01:27:04,920
confidences wanted me to teach tracking. Class, ah SO i

1454
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,479
THINK i think it was the first or the second

1455
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,720
night we were. There that, is the second night we were.

1456
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,880
There she's, like because the first NIGHT i WAS i

1457
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,640
went with another. Group so this night she, said, OH

1458
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,640
i want you to go with our. Group she, said

1459
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,439
CAUSE i. WANT i want. To here's some of the

1460
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,640
track and, stuff and that's the whole. Thing we were

1461
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,600
down there looking for big. Foot that's all we were

1462
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,119
we were looking. For so we got down in this.

1463
01:27:26,199 --> 01:27:30,680
Area this is In, missouri and it's a Bit it

1464
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,399
was a big boat ramp and it had two two

1465
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:37,319
ramps in a big parking area and then another bigger

1466
01:27:37,359 --> 01:27:39,680
parking area up above. It so it was like like

1467
01:27:40,279 --> 01:27:42,279
basically like two. Stages you had a big parking lot up,

1468
01:27:42,319 --> 01:27:45,439
here smaller parking lot with in the boat, ramps and

1469
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:50,079
then there was a huge. Field and it was on

1470
01:27:50,199 --> 01:27:54,720
The Niangle, river which is a pretty big. River and

1471
01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:00,239
there's there's like a little uh these little camp areas

1472
01:28:00,359 --> 01:28:02,439
all over the. Place there's not a whole lot of houses,

1473
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:07,239
well we're walking around down around the creek or around

1474
01:28:07,279 --> 01:28:12,840
the river area looking for, stuff and, Uh marianne's Husband

1475
01:28:13,319 --> 01:28:18,439
robert had, said, hey y'all wanna y'all wanna see a weird? Light, Right,

1476
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:22,079
Sure so we walked compared to where he's at and

1477
01:28:22,119 --> 01:28:24,159
he's out standing in that the edge of that big

1478
01:28:25,239 --> 01:28:29,840
grass field and we ran espence on. This this thing

1479
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,840
was probably about a mile away from, us but it's

1480
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,399
just this bright white light and it's like you can

1481
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:39,760
see up a hill on the horizon and then light a.

1482
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,920
Up so it would drop down sometimes and be right

1483
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:43,279
in front of the, trees and it was DOING i

1484
01:28:43,319 --> 01:28:45,279
mean at times it was like a heartbeat. Monitor it

1485
01:28:45,399 --> 01:28:48,000
was doing like, this but over, here and it would

1486
01:28:48,039 --> 01:28:49,560
go back. There then it would go up above the

1487
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,199
tree line and do. All it was just a Ratic

1488
01:28:52,279 --> 01:28:54,239
there was no pattern to it or. Whatever we sat

1489
01:28:54,239 --> 01:28:56,239
out there for like two and a half hours watching. This.

1490
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,560
Wow it didn't have any green lights or any red

1491
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,760
lights on. It we had a guy that had a

1492
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,119
thermal he hit. It there was no heat signature to.

1493
01:29:05,239 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 10: It it was.

1494
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:13,159
Speaker 6: Weird that's probably in all my years Of bigfoot and

1495
01:29:13,199 --> 01:29:15,039
all that, stuff that's the weirdest thing That i've ever,

1496
01:29:15,119 --> 01:29:18,600
experienced BECAUSE i can't explain WHAT i was looking at

1497
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,960
other than there was a white light in the. Sky

1498
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,199
and the funny thing is there was a guy who

1499
01:29:24,319 --> 01:29:28,199
was really big into UFOs that wanted to have a

1500
01:29:28,239 --> 01:29:30,199
Big foot, experience but he had a lot of his

1501
01:29:30,279 --> 01:29:33,760
LITTLE ufo. Gadgets so he gets out, there he's dumping

1502
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,319
his bag, out getting all his stuff, out and he

1503
01:29:36,399 --> 01:29:39,199
pulls out this big scanner AND i think it went

1504
01:29:39,239 --> 01:29:41,119
from like two hundred megger hurts alla up to nine.

1505
01:29:41,199 --> 01:29:44,399
Hundred And i'm sure somebody or one of y'all knows

1506
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,920
What i'm talking. About i'm not A ufo, guy SO

1507
01:29:47,039 --> 01:29:50,079
i don't know. It but, basically it picks up on

1508
01:29:50,239 --> 01:29:52,920
all these frequencies between two hundred and nine, hundred and

1509
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,319
it's supposed to rotate all through. Them it would go

1510
01:29:56,399 --> 01:29:58,319
from two hundred to four, hundred back to two, hundred

1511
01:29:58,359 --> 01:29:59,720
back to four. Hundred and it was just an a

1512
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,399
a perpetual cycle between those, two Wasn't he, said it's

1513
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:03,920
never done that.

1514
01:30:04,039 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 8: Before, wow how big do you think this? Thing this

1515
01:30:08,359 --> 01:30:09,840
craft was or? Whatever it?

1516
01:30:10,039 --> 01:30:10,079
Speaker 1: Was?

1517
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 8: Small?

1518
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 6: BIG i, mean it looked like it was that. Big

1519
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:14,520
because it was so far.

1520
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 8: Away but, yeah.

1521
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,239
Speaker 6: The as fast as it, WAS i, mean this thing

1522
01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:22,680
would move the length of a two football fields in

1523
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:26,039
like a split. SECOND i mean it would be like

1524
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,880
on this side and then it was over here just like. That,

1525
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,680
yeah and it would go up and. Down LIKE i

1526
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,279
said one, time it literally like a heartbeat monitor because

1527
01:30:35,279 --> 01:30:36,640
it was going in the. Line it was up and,

1528
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,239
down up and, down and it.

1529
01:30:38,399 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 8: Was, oh.

1530
01:30:41,159 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 6: It's kind of.

1531
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,079
Speaker 4: CRAZY i was gonna say WHEN i saw The phoenix

1532
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:48,039
lights in nineteen eighty, seven that craft was not moving very,

1533
01:30:48,119 --> 01:30:50,479
fast but it was. Massive that's on.

1534
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 6: All This all we could see was that white. Light

1535
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,439
we never we never saw a craft or. Anything it

1536
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,399
was just it looked literally looked like but there Was

1537
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,039
they went back over during the day and there were

1538
01:31:03,079 --> 01:31:06,279
no radio towers because at, first you, know you're always

1539
01:31:06,279 --> 01:31:08,680
trying to figure, Out, okay well maybe it's a telephone

1540
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,279
or a light pole, swaying but obviously that's not not

1541
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:13,199
that because it ain't gonna go from here to here

1542
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,119
if it's a light. Pole but there was nothing over.

1543
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:18,399
Speaker 13: There there was no radio, towers there was no houses

1544
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:18,640
on that.

1545
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,239
Speaker 6: Mountain there was. Nothing because you, Know i'm thinking, okay

1546
01:31:21,279 --> 01:31:23,640
well maybe it's a, flashlight maybe somebody's, playing but there's

1547
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:25,960
no way a flashlight is going somebody with a. Flashlight

1548
01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:27,760
it wasn't a drone because you would have a heat

1549
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:31,560
signature off with the, thermal and it wasn't a plane

1550
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,560
because there was no red and green lights flashing on.

1551
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,920
It it was just that one solid white. Light it's it.

1552
01:31:37,079 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: Was it was.

1553
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 8: Weird, yeah you wonder if, they're you, know being controlled by,

1554
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:48,239
anything or whether they're like some kind of intelligence or

1555
01:31:48,319 --> 01:31:50,920
if they're, drones if they're you, know you just wonder

1556
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,960
what it. Is why are they acting so? Crazy why

1557
01:31:54,079 --> 01:31:56,359
the ping pong ball?

1558
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:01,319
Speaker 6: Movements what any that's a little like some of my

1559
01:32:01,399 --> 01:32:03,880
tet off a golf ball in a tile bathroom at. Times,

1560
01:32:04,199 --> 01:32:05,600
yeah it's just all over the.

1561
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:11,039
Speaker 8: Place that's a that's a good. Description oh my. God

1562
01:32:11,119 --> 01:32:14,319
well that's been described that way by The. Navy you,

1563
01:32:14,399 --> 01:32:18,119
know they've seen them bouncing all, over like why are

1564
01:32:18,199 --> 01:32:22,640
they collecting? Data are they maybe they're grabbing, Bugs maybe

1565
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:26,720
they're chasing some mosquitoes and capturing specimensm. MOSQUITOES i, mean

1566
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:27,560
we don't know what they're.

1567
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:31,359
Speaker 4: Doing, YEAH i was gonna say that's only In, Minnesota,

1568
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:32,760
doug you, Know oh, Yeah.

1569
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,399
Speaker 6: And any one of those are as good a guess

1570
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:39,279
as Anything i've, got, because LIKE i, said we do

1571
01:32:39,399 --> 01:32:39,600
is just.

1572
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 8: Guess but you, know people never think about them ever collecting.

1573
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:46,680
Anything AND i, think why wouldn't they collect biological? Samples

1574
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,840
what if they're just kind of grabbing, bugs you, know

1575
01:32:50,159 --> 01:32:51,800
just to doing a little.

1576
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 13: Research LIKE i said that that makes as much sense as.

1577
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 6: ANYTHING i, mean who, KNOWS i, mean.

1578
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 8: What else is out at night besides bug was flying?

1579
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:05,039
Around not. MUCH i doubt it was examining trees at that,

1580
01:33:05,279 --> 01:33:10,520
speed but maybe it. Was who. Knows it's all. Speculate

1581
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:11,880
it's unverified, crap, Right?

1582
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 10: Jeff, yeah where is? That put that up for a.

1583
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:19,399
Speaker 8: While, no you haven't put our unverified crap t. SHIRT

1584
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,000
i get to check With alex because he's got to

1585
01:33:22,039 --> 01:33:27,079
mail a few of those. Out where is our unverified crap? Ago?

1586
01:33:27,239 --> 01:33:36,279
Jeff there it is, there it. Is that's untold Radio. Am,

1587
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,000
yeah you're home for unverified. CRAP i like all the

1588
01:33:39,039 --> 01:33:43,199
other little uh subtle the coffee cup and. Things it's pretty.

1589
01:33:43,239 --> 01:33:53,680
Cool Exactly jeff did, That, Robbie, WELL i didn't do?

1590
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,840
It is we want people to know. Too we. Don't you,

1591
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,640
know we don't take ourselves That syria is because you,

1592
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:07,439
know it's it's serious to a, witness and you, know

1593
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,720
it's fun to, speculate like we're talking about maybe they're

1594
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:13,520
maybe they're collecting. Bugs who they all. Knows it's all

1595
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:19,039
just weird. Theories but if we don't talk about it,

1596
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,760
exactly that's all we're never going to solve the.

1597
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,560
Speaker 6: Mystery and that's that's the POINT i was making. Earlier you,

1598
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,399
know it doesn't matter WHAT i think it was or

1599
01:34:27,399 --> 01:34:30,039
what anybody else thinks it, was because nobody knows exactly

1600
01:34:30,119 --> 01:34:33,800
what it was or what it was. Doing but you're

1601
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,039
never gonna come to any kind of middle ground if

1602
01:34:37,039 --> 01:34:38,159
you don't sit here and talk about.

1603
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 8: It, yeah maybe it was a team learning to. Drive

1604
01:34:42,079 --> 01:34:44,640
it's just as likely as. ELSE i.

1605
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 6: THINK i think you figured it.

1606
01:34:46,039 --> 01:34:52,039
Speaker 8: Out, yeah, yeah that finally nailed. It that was.

1607
01:34:52,119 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 6: It it never got close enough to see the bumper,

1608
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,800
sticker BUT i BET i bet that's what it.

1609
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 8: WAS i love. It that just sounds like a really great. One,

1610
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:03,159
Okay so how often do you go out and Investigating?

1611
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 6: Robbie not as much As i'd like to because Obviously

1612
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:11,199
i'm still working full. Time but, yeah hopefully that's you,

1613
01:35:11,279 --> 01:35:13,079
know the books from my retirement, plan SO i don't

1614
01:35:13,119 --> 01:35:15,920
have to worry about. Work WHEN i, STARTED i was,

1615
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:17,720
LIKE i just want something that's gonna supplement when i'm

1616
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,359
a loser and, retire BECAUSE i can retire in twenty.

1617
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:24,239
Thirty so Hopefully i'll get to go out. More BUT

1618
01:35:25,359 --> 01:35:26,760
i try to get out at least a couple times a.

1619
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:28,079
Speaker 8: Year try to go To missouri WITH.

1620
01:35:28,199 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 6: Da missouri is a, wild wild place to. Go i've

1621
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,920
never been To missouri WITH da and not had something.

1622
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 4: Happen in fact That i'll be In missouri tomorrow so

1623
01:35:42,239 --> 01:35:45,239
for the week it's be And i'll be in the.

1624
01:35:45,279 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 6: Wood yeah it. IS i mean we found everything from

1625
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:56,239
deer hides in the, tree fish heads in a. Tree

1626
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,680
that's Where i've had WHAT i just told about the

1627
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:05,479
light we've had. There we've been uh stalked and paced

1628
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,279
by what we think as a dog man And Joe

1629
01:36:08,359 --> 01:36:14,119
bald before uh and Uh Moon valley with, ME da

1630
01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:19,439
And doc And, Noah DA's. Son we got almost got.

1631
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,199
Surrounded doc actually got we didn't have that he didn't

1632
01:36:23,199 --> 01:36:24,600
have to set up to record at the, time but

1633
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:28,399
he had his uh thermals on and he actually saw

1634
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:32,079
two of them behind us or me and de are

1635
01:36:32,199 --> 01:36:34,000
walking up the road and he saw two of them

1636
01:36:34,079 --> 01:36:38,439
hiding behind a tree as right where me AND da were,

1637
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:40,479
walking and he caught he heard. Something he turned his

1638
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,319
head and he saw a third one running down, uh

1639
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:46,720
kind of like it was trying to flank. Us and

1640
01:36:47,119 --> 01:36:49,800
that coin the phrase thermal don't lie because IF i

1641
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,520
had a nickel foriry. TIME i Heard doc say that

1642
01:36:52,359 --> 01:36:55,720
within the next three hours of the time we were,

1643
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:57,760
AWAKE i probably would.

1644
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 13: Not have to be working now because that was his,

1645
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:02,600
parent he. Believed but he had never had an.

1646
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 6: Experience that was his first, experience and you, know not

1647
01:37:07,119 --> 01:37:09,159
many people get to have their first experience with thermal

1648
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:12,479
AND i actually get to see the, silhouette the or

1649
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,960
the outline. Rather that was an interesting.

1650
01:37:16,079 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 8: Night have you been to THE.

1651
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,279
Speaker 13: Lbo, Yeah i've been there several. TIMES i had a

1652
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:22,560
really really.

1653
01:37:23,399 --> 01:37:27,359
Speaker 6: UH i went to The woodwalker's thing this last last.

1654
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 8: MONTH i think, There, well did you Meet? Adam?

1655
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 6: MAYBE i met a lot of. It there was there

1656
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:38,479
was a lot of people.

1657
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 8: There there was a lot of people. There it's getting

1658
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:43,039
to be quite a quite an.

1659
01:37:43,079 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 6: Event, YEAH i was sitting with the With cam most

1660
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,279
of the time when because me And cam were talking

1661
01:37:51,319 --> 01:37:55,159
about some some different Things Cam, Buckner so me And

1662
01:37:55,239 --> 01:37:56,920
dot were sitting With cam most of the time when

1663
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:57,359
we were down.

1664
01:37:57,399 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 13: There so maybe maybe i've met at. Him LIKE i,

1665
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:02,680
said there's a lot of people.

1666
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,359
Speaker 6: That come up and, said, hey we watch the show

1667
01:38:06,119 --> 01:38:09,159
and didn't say the names and walked. Off me and Dogor.

1668
01:38:09,319 --> 01:38:12,720
Chuck did you get a? Name, no they didn't, say, okay.

1669
01:38:14,119 --> 01:38:15,560
Speaker 8: You know coonbo. Oh.

1670
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah the first TIME i Met coombo was two

1671
01:38:18,039 --> 01:38:20,520
years before. That WHEN i was down. There we were setting.

1672
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,760
Up we were trying to do a Uh johnny AND

1673
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,119
i were going to remote end live because it was

1674
01:38:25,279 --> 01:38:27,960
we were still doing shows On saturday then and everything

1675
01:38:28,079 --> 01:38:32,359
was working and we're getting, everything and, UH i see

1676
01:38:32,399 --> 01:38:34,680
this guy walk up to me And Pyro medic was

1677
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,880
walking with, him and UH i Knew pyro and he, said, Hey,

1678
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:39,439
ROBBIE i wanted to do. Something and he, goes, Hey

1679
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,880
Combo baker And i'm, like and D a was live on,

1680
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,239
man he had never met him. Either AND i hear

1681
01:38:44,399 --> 01:38:45,720
And i'm talking to him and you here on the

1682
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:49,560
computer that, komboo that's. Koomboo and So cumbo heard. It

1683
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,600
he stuck his head on the cameras, says, hey, Yeah I'm.

1684
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:55,920
Cuombo so that's HOW i met. Him that's a funny, story.

1685
01:38:58,359 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 8: Dressing so what are your thoughts on dog? Men it's

1686
01:39:05,039 --> 01:39:09,199
such a strange. Ministry it's fueled constantly by you, know.

1687
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 6: Sading, okay my, thing my thing on dog. Man you,

1688
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:21,039
know if you look back as early as written history,

1689
01:39:21,079 --> 01:39:24,640
started sign of cephalae i were mentioned dog headed, People

1690
01:39:26,359 --> 01:39:32,239
Saint christopher dalk, Headed Saint, Anubis, whipplewett stuff like that's

1691
01:39:32,239 --> 01:39:34,960
been around a lot longer than that term dog. Man

1692
01:39:37,279 --> 01:39:41,359
so AND i correct me If i'm, Wrong, Doug BUT i, think,

1693
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:44,640
uh you might have even had this in in the

1694
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:48,560
show on The American Werewoll show that that came from

1695
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,920
a RADIO dj to kind of kind of go along

1696
01:39:52,039 --> 01:39:55,960
with the beast bray. Road is that where that and

1697
01:39:56,039 --> 01:39:56,920
that where that term came.

1698
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,520
Speaker 8: From i'm not sure you don't really.

1699
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 6: KNOW i think that that's where that a RADIO dj

1700
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:06,439
coined that phrase sometime in the.

1701
01:40:08,279 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 13: Very late eighties early nineties to talk about The michigan Dog.

1702
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 6: Man it was you, know BECAUSE i think back then

1703
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:17,760
they were trying to figure out if that was the

1704
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:21,960
same creature that The beast Of Bray road. Was so

1705
01:40:22,319 --> 01:40:25,680
that term in itself has only been around for a

1706
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,000
short period of. Time but you, know you go back

1707
01:40:28,039 --> 01:40:34,319
and look in seventeenth seventeen, hundreds The french trappers working

1708
01:40:34,359 --> 01:40:39,439
along the rivers Of missouri And louisiana and places like,

1709
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:40,840
that they were seeing things like this.

1710
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:43,119
Speaker 10: Where wolf.

1711
01:40:43,159 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 6: Springs you, know that story goes way back further than.

1712
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:49,760
That but kind of like, bigfoot you, know everybody kind

1713
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,159
of puts that, term and but that term wasn't coined

1714
01:40:52,199 --> 01:40:57,159
until that news reporter made it for the for the

1715
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:03,439
logging camp that was getting messed, with you, know bigfoot destroys,

1716
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,520
equipment and that. Stuck SO i think sometimes people just

1717
01:41:07,199 --> 01:41:11,000
there's there's popular terms like calling every soft drink of

1718
01:41:11,039 --> 01:41:16,600
coke or every uh tissue of. KLEENEX i think those

1719
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,720
terms just kind of get used a little too much

1720
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,640
and then they kind of take on the life of their.

1721
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:24,399
Own so as far as dog men, THERE i think

1722
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:28,439
it's a DIFFERENT i think it's just a different. Type

1723
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:33,920
like bigfoot is a different word for sasquatch Yeedi oma, Uh, Gugway,

1724
01:41:34,399 --> 01:41:36,439
GENOSKUA i mean every first.

1725
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:41,079
Speaker 8: Nation so do you think that dog men reports are? Bigfoot?

1726
01:41:42,199 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 6: No, no, no, No i'm just SAYING i THINK i

1727
01:41:44,079 --> 01:41:49,920
think everybody focuses on terminology of what they call, it

1728
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,920
and everybody's, like, okay this is a dog. Man well

1729
01:41:55,119 --> 01:41:57,760
that's just that's just a term of somebody put on. It,

1730
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:02,239
now WHETHER i think they're actually shape shifting were wolves or,

1731
01:42:02,279 --> 01:42:05,159
NOT i don't. Know BUT i think there is some

1732
01:42:05,319 --> 01:42:07,279
type of creature out, there, because LIKE i, said you'd

1733
01:42:07,359 --> 01:42:11,399
go back to the earliest writings known in, History sin

1734
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:14,600
and Suff, lie things like, that whep Wet. Anubis there

1735
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:16,800
have been things like. This they didn't call them dog

1736
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,920
man back. Then you, know they called them were wolves

1737
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:22,479
in early you, know medieval times and things like. That

1738
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:26,479
but h wolf man things like you, know it's just

1739
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,399
it's a term that is just it's the popular term

1740
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:32,760
right now for some of the things that we've seen for.

1741
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:34,920
Centuries do you want to see a dog?

1742
01:42:35,039 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 13: MAN i Think jessica AND i already, have AND i

1743
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:41,199
THINK i encountered ONE lbl.

1744
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 6: Just AND i went to uh two years in a.

1745
01:42:45,039 --> 01:42:48,720
ROW i went to The georgia bigfoot conference with. Her first,

1746
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,560
YEAR i went with. Her we went to a place

1747
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:59,359
where she does a lot of research in And i'm

1748
01:42:59,359 --> 01:43:02,399
pretty sure that we had a couple of big foot around.

1749
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:04,279
Us we were standing out there. Talking we've been out

1750
01:43:04,319 --> 01:43:05,960
there for twenty or thirty. Minutes we were up on

1751
01:43:06,039 --> 01:43:11,199
this little rise and the insects where it was like

1752
01:43:11,319 --> 01:43:13,960
being in the, concert and we were, literally you, know

1753
01:43:14,039 --> 01:43:16,199
two feet away from each, other, yelling so we could

1754
01:43:16,239 --> 01:43:21,279
hear each other over the over the, insects so they

1755
01:43:21,319 --> 01:43:24,079
weren't they weren't bothered with. Us and all of a,

1756
01:43:24,079 --> 01:43:26,800
sudden it's like somebody unplugged a jukebox And i'm in

1757
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,720
a beer. Joint it just went dead quiet like. That

1758
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:34,680
we both AND i looked at her AND i, said

1759
01:43:35,239 --> 01:43:37,159
AND i don't, KNOW i can't remember IF i saw

1760
01:43:37,359 --> 01:43:39,640
something over OR i just got had a, feeling but

1761
01:43:40,199 --> 01:43:42,600
there was something behind. Her, well just AS i to

1762
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,399
tell her there's something behind, you she's looking behind. Me she, goes,

1763
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:49,399
no there's something behind. You so we sat there for

1764
01:43:50,319 --> 01:43:52,920
a few more minutes and a few more. Seconds, Whatever,

1765
01:43:53,359 --> 01:43:55,960
jessica you cracked me on time from from off on.

1766
01:43:56,039 --> 01:43:58,960
It but she turns and looks down towards where her cars.

1767
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:00,600
At she, GOES i think we need to get back

1768
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,800
down to the. CAR i THINK i think they're trying

1769
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:06,199
to not. In we never felt threatened to say, that

1770
01:44:07,039 --> 01:44:09,000
but we kind of felt like they were trying to

1771
01:44:09,039 --> 01:44:11,479
surround us at that, point so we just kind of

1772
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:14,640
eased back down to her. Car and as we get

1773
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:16,439
down to the, CAR i turned around and looked to

1774
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,159
watch her keep walking down where he was that and

1775
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:22,279
up the top of the hill right where we were.

1776
01:44:22,319 --> 01:44:25,920
Standing you, know you could see the tree line silhouetted

1777
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:31,760
above or in the. Sky and AS i look, UP

1778
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:35,439
i see a shadow going, across AND i, said turn,

1779
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:38,760
around turn, around turn, Around and she turned, around looked

1780
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:40,520
and she saw it just as it went into the.

1781
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,359
Trees so it was on two, legs and it was

1782
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:46,039
pretty big from what we could see from down to

1783
01:44:46,079 --> 01:44:49,359
the bottom of that little hill walk, across and it

1784
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:52,399
was right about where we were just, that so it

1785
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:54,159
was probably the one that she said was behind me

1786
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:54,920
was going over.

1787
01:44:55,199 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 13: There so we we got in the, Truck we're gotting

1788
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:00,479
her four runner got going back down the.

1789
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 6: Mountain we kept both kind of felt like we were

1790
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,640
still being watched but as soon as we got back

1791
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:07,960
down on the, road it was. Shot everything went back to.

1792
01:45:08,039 --> 01:45:12,079
Normal so we were, like that was that was? Cool

1793
01:45:12,119 --> 01:45:14,359
that was that was really. Cool so the next YEAR

1794
01:45:14,399 --> 01:45:16,039
i go, back, well she's had her she had her

1795
01:45:16,079 --> 01:45:18,920
Son ben with. Her we go back to the exact same,

1796
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:21,960
SPOT i, mean and this is literally a year to the.

1797
01:45:22,119 --> 01:45:28,800
Day we go back up there no, insects but it

1798
01:45:29,319 --> 01:45:32,199
just felt. Different SO i sat there for a little.

1799
01:45:32,199 --> 01:45:34,399
Bit you, know you get out of get out in the,

1800
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:35,840
dark you get you sit there for a little, bit

1801
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:40,520
let your eyes kind of, adjust AND i was seeing stuff.

1802
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:42,600
Moving But i'm, like, okay this is just this is

1803
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:45,319
just me my eyes adjusting from being in the car

1804
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:47,439
looking at the you, know the dashlights and things like.

1805
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:51,560
That BUT i was they just kept on, moving kept on.

1806
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:55,479
Moving And i'm looking ahead of us and her sons

1807
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:58,560
and uh in between, us and Then jessica's behind me

1808
01:45:59,079 --> 01:46:02,159
or behind, him And we're all looking in different. Directions

1809
01:46:02,199 --> 01:46:04,199
i'm looking this, way he's looking that, Way jessica's looking

1810
01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:07,399
over this, way and we're all three seeing stuff. Moving

1811
01:46:08,119 --> 01:46:12,119
we just hadn't told each other that. Yet So jessica, says,

1812
01:46:12,359 --> 01:46:15,720
uh you wanna you want to go move on up

1813
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,199
closer to the. TOP i, said now we need to

1814
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:20,560
move on back down towards the. CAR i just. HAD

1815
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:22,199
i just had a bad. FEELING i just, like this

1816
01:46:22,359 --> 01:46:26,359
is just not there's something different about. This And jessica

1817
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:28,359
did not argue BECAUSE i think she had the exact same.

1818
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:31,159
Feeling she's, like, yep you're, right let's. Go so we turn.

1819
01:46:31,199 --> 01:46:33,640
Around we kept her son in between, us and we

1820
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:37,840
were walking back down TO uh to her, vehicle and,

1821
01:46:38,159 --> 01:46:42,000
SOMETHING i just something just said turn. Around and not

1822
01:46:42,199 --> 01:46:44,159
LIKE i heard something tell me, to BUT i just

1823
01:46:44,239 --> 01:46:47,319
got that FEELING i needed to turn. Around SO i

1824
01:46:47,399 --> 01:46:50,079
turned back. Around and have y'all ever seen the Movie,

1825
01:46:50,399 --> 01:46:53,039
underworld the first?

1826
01:46:53,079 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 4: One, yeah it's been a.

1827
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:58,239
Speaker 6: While remember the scene Where selene's in the hallway the

1828
01:46:58,279 --> 01:47:02,000
apartment and she's looking and all the the werewolves are

1829
01:47:02,199 --> 01:47:04,359
jumping up on the walls and coming at. Her WHEN

1830
01:47:04,399 --> 01:47:06,039
i turned, around a, kid you, Not that's WHAT i

1831
01:47:06,119 --> 01:47:08,399
saw was three or four shadows moving like that now

1832
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:11,880
up on up on the, wall but just, alternating moving towards.

1833
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:15,960
Us so back of my, shoulder and, YES i HAD

1834
01:47:17,239 --> 01:47:20,439
i was, healed and SO i had it. OUT i

1835
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,199
looked on my. SHOULDER i, said go to the, car

1836
01:47:23,039 --> 01:47:26,159
get him, in get, it get it. Started AND i

1837
01:47:26,319 --> 01:47:28,039
walked the rest of the way backwards in. There just

1838
01:47:28,319 --> 01:47:29,840
as long AS i was looking that, way they didn't.

1839
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:33,680
Move we backed all OR i backed all the way

1840
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,680
down And jessica got, in got the car crank AND

1841
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:38,439
i got in the. CAR i got, in shut the,

1842
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:44,279
door and off we. Went so same exact, place two

1843
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,279
very very very different.

1844
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 8: Encounters that's, Crazy, yeah, yeah you just you. WONDER i,

1845
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,239
mean there's so many People i've talked to you that have,

1846
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:59,279
had you, know strange, experiences which brings us to our next.

1847
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:03,439
Point you think these whether it's dog, man do you

1848
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,199
think they're flesh and? Blood do you Think bigfoot's flesh and?

1849
01:48:06,239 --> 01:48:11,079
Blood where do you stand on this? Mystery and if

1850
01:48:11,119 --> 01:48:11,920
you don't, know that's?

1851
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:16,600
Speaker 6: Fine and what what WHAT i ANYTHING i say is

1852
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:20,279
just my. Opinion so we say it all the.

1853
01:48:20,359 --> 01:48:22,159
Speaker 8: Time AND i know you, well if you were a

1854
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,880
man you had to put you, know a buck on

1855
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,920
flesh and blood or buck on uh? Paranormal what would

1856
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:29,600
you put your buck?

1857
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,560
Speaker 6: On I'm I'm i've always been flesh and blood camp

1858
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,960
because everything That i've, ever with the exception of the

1859
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:38,640
of the light in the sky THAT i can't, explain

1860
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:40,840
but every other encounter That i've had with something that

1861
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:44,640
would has not acted anything other than an. Animal. Uh you,

1862
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:47,840
Know I've i've debated people plenty of times about the

1863
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:50,279
portals and things like. That i'm, like it's just adaptive,

1864
01:48:50,319 --> 01:48:53,039
camouflage and, well how do you what do you? Mean

1865
01:48:53,079 --> 01:48:55,600
and you, know showing the pictures of the the stick,

1866
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:58,960
budgets like the owl you showed pictures, of that's adaptive.

1867
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,920
CAMOUFLAGE i, Mean i've always been.

1868
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:02,199
Speaker 8: Of the.

1869
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 6: Of the school thought that if you've got a, question

1870
01:49:07,159 --> 01:49:10,800
look in nature what we've already discovered and is there

1871
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:15,600
adaptive camouflage in nature that we've already? Studied absolutely and

1872
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:18,479
all kinds of things that animals have adaptive CAN.

1873
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 8: I just, said we had that tiny frog moth? Bird yeah.

1874
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:28,039
Speaker 6: Exactly so that that's that's WHERE i. Stand UNTIL i

1875
01:49:28,119 --> 01:49:30,800
see something that THAT i can't explain away like, that

1876
01:49:31,039 --> 01:49:34,760
then then you, know maybe my viewpoint will. Change but

1877
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:36,279
IF i IF i was a betting man like you,

1878
01:49:36,319 --> 01:49:40,600
Said I'm i'm flesh and. Blood that's just What i've always.

1879
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:43,239
SEEN i haven't ever seen anything that showed me anything

1880
01:49:43,319 --> 01:49:49,640
other than an, animal very smart, animal but that but you,

1881
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:51,960
know there are very INTELLIGENT i, mean look at how

1882
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:56,319
different packs of orcas have learned to hunt differently depending

1883
01:49:56,319 --> 01:50:01,680
on where they're at in the. World, yeah and that's

1884
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,319
the same type of. Creature but you, know In New

1885
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:09,239
zealand they're beaching themselves to grab seals and off the.

1886
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:15,239
Shoreline but In antarctica they've learned to that use the

1887
01:50:15,319 --> 01:50:18,600
water when they go swimming under the ice floe and

1888
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:20,880
use the water to flush it. Off then you got

1889
01:50:21,119 --> 01:50:23,560
the two sharks In South africa that were hunting great,

1890
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:27,720
whites specifically port and. Starboard you know that they killed

1891
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:32,199
what forty or fifty sharks in like a MONTH i

1892
01:50:32,319 --> 01:50:34,439
think that were washing up on the shore that just

1893
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:37,680
had almost like a surgical, incision we had their livers. Removed,

1894
01:50:38,119 --> 01:50:41,520
yeah but that's you, know that's the same type of.

1895
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:45,159
Creature but they're all hunting different. Ways so why is

1896
01:50:45,159 --> 01:50:47,640
it so hard to believe that these things have NOT i,

1897
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:51,800
mean they're born with a natural gilly. Suit they know

1898
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:55,039
the woods better than we're ever going. To they don't

1899
01:50:55,079 --> 01:50:59,159
want to be. Found and there's eighty eight million acres

1900
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:03,159
of national forest AND i don't even count state the.

1901
01:51:03,319 --> 01:51:06,239
Speaker 8: National, forest but that forest is a lot harder to

1902
01:51:06,279 --> 01:51:07,560
get into than people really.

1903
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:12,119
Speaker 6: Realize, right, yeah, so and that that's that's one of

1904
01:51:12,159 --> 01:51:15,680
the first THINGS i, Asked, well, what, okay how many

1905
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:20,359
countries could you hide? In eighty eight million acres? COUNTRIES a?

1906
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:24,720
Lot you, know, so and we talked about this just

1907
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:28,319
the other. DAY da said, this if you could and

1908
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:33,840
this is not, feasible but say you could explore one

1909
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:37,000
square mile a, day it would take you one hundred

1910
01:51:37,039 --> 01:51:43,000
and twenty nine years to Explore, alaska, Right and who

1911
01:51:43,039 --> 01:51:45,760
could feasibly explore one square mile a? Day because that's a,

1912
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:53,039
Lot and that's that's constant. Exactly so if if that's

1913
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:56,039
if that's one state in granted that's our biggest, state but,

1914
01:51:56,119 --> 01:51:59,079
still but that's one, state and it will take you

1915
01:51:59,079 --> 01:52:03,359
one hundred nine and twenty nine years to completely explore that.

1916
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:06,880
State that tells you how big this area. Is so to,

1917
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:09,359
me that's just there's plenty of room for these things to.

1918
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:13,079
Speaker 8: Hide, well you, know the, funniest the funniest question, again

1919
01:52:13,279 --> 01:52:16,520
and then you Can Sorry, CARL i jumped, out but

1920
01:52:17,359 --> 01:52:20,279
your next the funniest QUESTION i always get is people

1921
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,520
say to, me, well if they're real, welcome nobody ever sees.

1922
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:27,560
Them AND i, go, WELL i think there's probably about

1923
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,960
one hundred to two hundred sightings a, day you, know

1924
01:52:31,279 --> 01:52:35,039
and probably all the, time you, know five percent are

1925
01:52:35,119 --> 01:52:39,920
reported to. Anybody and and so it's fuel that's why

1926
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,520
this mystery. Is that's why we're still talking about, it

1927
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:48,039
because it's fueled every day by new sightings or. Experiences

1928
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:52,760
so they're seeing and they're not you, KNOW i really

1929
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:55,720
don't think they give a big. Damn if they're, seeing

1930
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:59,720
they just don't want, contact you, know, generally you, KNOW i,

1931
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:05,319
mean they're often, seen but it's, brief and you, know

1932
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:08,800
they they're out of there. Once once you see, them they're.

1933
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 10: Gone, well AND i follow up What robbie said, too

1934
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:14,000
is WE i think all of us have been in

1935
01:53:14,039 --> 01:53:17,239
a like if you're in a small airplane over bush.

1936
01:53:17,319 --> 01:53:20,119
Areas there's areas in the kind of The United states

1937
01:53:20,239 --> 01:53:22,479
you could hide a dinosaur and you would never find.

1938
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:25,800
IT i, mean there's places not too far from here

1939
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,840
where the bush is just. Endless you could hide anything.

1940
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:29,079
Speaker 8: There.

1941
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:33,359
Speaker 6: Yeah oh, yeah, well you know my point to, that

1942
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:36,479
to follow up and agree with you on that, is

1943
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:43,000
if you get out of the regular regulated airspace or

1944
01:53:43,039 --> 01:53:45,760
out of the shipping. Lanes why do you think there's

1945
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:48,359
so many planes and ships that are never found again

1946
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:51,720
because we don't explore that kind of, stuff, RIGHT i,

1947
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,560
mean because they're so there's planes that go down all

1948
01:53:54,600 --> 01:54:00,520
the time in you, know uncharted areas that are never,

1949
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:05,560
found even with these sophisticated black boxes that they, got you,

1950
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:09,159
know that they can't ever find. Again but, so why

1951
01:54:09,319 --> 01:54:12,159
is it so hard to believe that a very intelligent

1952
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:15,760
animal that doesn't, want like you, said doesn't want, contact

1953
01:54:16,399 --> 01:54:19,840
doesn't want to be it's. Easy it's easy for.

1954
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,279
Speaker 10: THEM i, agree it's. Easy, NO i.

1955
01:54:22,359 --> 01:54:24,159
Speaker 4: Agree AND i was going to add on to your

1956
01:54:24,239 --> 01:54:27,199
eighty eight million acre or you, know square miles the

1957
01:54:27,399 --> 01:54:31,520
uh you, know and that doesn't include any of the

1958
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:36,359
urban areas that have woods and forests and contiguous. Areas

1959
01:54:36,439 --> 01:54:39,399
and that's kind of almost been my specialty at least

1960
01:54:39,439 --> 01:54:40,439
in finding them a.

1961
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 6: Little, yeah what if you if you added, that if

1962
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,279
you just look at national, parks it's eighty eight million

1963
01:54:48,319 --> 01:54:51,439
acres if you add In bureau Of Land, management state,

1964
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:56,760
parks public use, ways. Reservations you start adding in all

1965
01:54:56,840 --> 01:55:01,039
that stuff, too that can't be uh, Done nothing could

1966
01:55:01,079 --> 01:55:05,199
be done with it can't be what's the, word it

1967
01:55:05,239 --> 01:55:10,199
can't be. Developed, yeah it gets up over a billion

1968
01:55:10,279 --> 01:55:13,199
acres in this, country this country, alone over a billion

1969
01:55:13,279 --> 01:55:18,000
acres where things can just. Disappear and you, KNOW i

1970
01:55:18,479 --> 01:55:21,520
had a interesting discussion with the deer hunter one, time

1971
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:23,119
and he was, Like i've been deer hunting all my

1972
01:55:23,319 --> 01:55:26,960
life AND i ain't never Seen, Okay i'm a deer hunter.

1973
01:55:27,039 --> 01:55:30,279
Too how many places have you? HUNTED i got about

1974
01:55:30,319 --> 01:55:32,199
four or five, places, HUNT i, said four or five.

1975
01:55:32,279 --> 01:55:37,720
PLACES i, said so, you out of all those four

1976
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,840
or five, places because you haven't seen anything any of

1977
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,800
those four or five, places you you were qualified to

1978
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,239
say that they don't exist in all the rest of

1979
01:55:46,319 --> 01:55:51,680
the woods of the. World AND i said so by

1980
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:52,520
your by your.

1981
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 13: Reasoning and this is this Is DA's uh, line BUT

1982
01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:56,479
i used it on this.

1983
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,079
Speaker 6: GUY i, said so by your. Reason and IF i go,

1984
01:55:58,159 --> 01:56:01,800
DOWN i take a teaspoon to the, ocean AND i

1985
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:03,800
dip it up AND i look in that, TEASPOON i,

1986
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,319
said no sharks in. THERE i guess there's no such

1987
01:56:06,399 --> 01:56:08,840
thing as sharks because there's no sharks and in my

1988
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:10,800
little area THAT i just looked at right, HERE i,

1989
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:11,600
said is that a fair?

1990
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:14,479
Speaker 13: Assessment, well, no but that's that's. DIFFERENT i, Said, no

1991
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:15,399
that's the same.

1992
01:56:15,479 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 6: Thing you're basing what you're saying on that little small

1993
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:21,319
area that you or those five small areas that you've.

1994
01:56:21,399 --> 01:56:25,359
Speaker 13: Hunted have you gone out walked every acre of The Mark? Twain,

1995
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:26,680
NO i said.

1996
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:29,119
Speaker 6: That how can? YOU i said To Mark, twain is

1997
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:35,960
goes almost across the Entire United states Of. America there's

1998
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:38,520
a million acres in The Jersey pine. BARNS i didn't

1999
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,319
know that UNTIL i was researching for one of my. Shops,

2000
01:56:40,399 --> 01:56:41,600
oh it's, nuts it.

2001
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:43,439
Speaker 8: Is i've driven through there quite a few.

2002
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 6: TIMES i, mean that's that's just like you, said it's

2003
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:48,840
nuts to think because most people think Of New. Jersey

2004
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:49,399
do you think of The?

2005
01:56:49,439 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 13: Turnpike you, think you, know you think of, city that's

2006
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:52,960
what you.

2007
01:56:53,079 --> 01:56:55,159
Speaker 6: Think you don't think that there's a million acres of

2008
01:56:55,279 --> 01:56:58,159
untouched wilderness and then, yeah right.

2009
01:56:58,119 --> 01:57:00,319
Speaker 8: On your way on your way to One atlantic.

2010
01:57:00,439 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 4: City yet, right, well and the same thing out On

2011
01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:06,960
Long island WHERE i ended up, finding you, know, uh

2012
01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:09,720
the big folk out, there you, know and it's like

2013
01:57:10,119 --> 01:57:13,119
and you know people that Say Long, Island, no it's

2014
01:57:13,359 --> 01:57:17,399
that's you, know completely paved, over and it's, like, nope,

2015
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:20,760
nope there's and the pine barrens even out on the

2016
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:22,359
eastern end Of Long island as.

2017
01:57:22,399 --> 01:57:28,359
Speaker 8: Well, yeah and so well do you, Think, Robbie, okay

2018
01:57:28,399 --> 01:57:30,359
we'll just kind of switch a little. Bit but so

2019
01:57:30,479 --> 01:57:34,760
you're you're like, me you think these things use, corridors, creeks,

2020
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:40,439
travelways come, near they come, within you, know yards of gas.

2021
01:57:40,479 --> 01:57:43,560
Stations and that's one REASON i think people don't want

2022
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:46,000
to report them because they saw them in a kind

2023
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:51,039
of an urban, area semi urban, area and they're, like,

2024
01:57:51,159 --> 01:57:53,520
well no one's gonna believe, us because there's a quick

2025
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:55,000
trip right down the, road. Right.

2026
01:57:55,479 --> 01:57:58,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well i'll go one further because we've we've kind

2027
01:57:58,279 --> 01:58:02,680
of been working on a working theory and we started

2028
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,119
working this through probably about a year and a half

2029
01:58:05,159 --> 01:58:11,720
maybe two years. Ago if you overlap The missing fool

2030
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:17,760
And one, map The bigfoot sightings, maps and cave, maps

2031
01:58:18,399 --> 01:58:25,560
all three of those maps really match almost. Exactly so

2032
01:58:28,119 --> 01:58:31,039
what would be an easy way for these things to

2033
01:58:31,239 --> 01:58:35,880
travel and not be? SEEN a lot there's a lot

2034
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:39,159
of caves in this. Country they recently said that they

2035
01:58:39,199 --> 01:58:42,319
think that The Mammoth cave Can go could possibly stretch

2036
01:58:42,439 --> 01:58:47,159
From maine To New. Mexico, well you, KNOW usga can't

2037
01:58:47,239 --> 01:58:51,479
go Into mexico to so if it goes all, theoretically

2038
01:58:51,479 --> 01:58:53,359
if it goes all the way up To New, mexico

2039
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:56,880
it probably goes on Into mexico. Too so there's no

2040
01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:00,680
telling how far down those caves. Go and we've only

2041
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:07,000
explored two percent of that cave. SYSTEM i, Mean da

2042
01:59:07,119 --> 01:59:09,920
tells the story that when he was a, kid they

2043
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:15,399
put this radioactive mark or die In Bennett springs and

2044
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:18,119
was looking to see where it came out. At six

2045
01:59:18,199 --> 01:59:21,239
months later it came out In antarctic or, Yeah antarctica

2046
01:59:21,319 --> 01:59:23,800
Or alaska ONE i can't. Remember but six months later

2047
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:27,159
it came out in a very cold place way away From. Missouri.

2048
01:59:29,119 --> 01:59:34,720
Wow so there's. Places and that kind of leans in

2049
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:37,079
with our other theory because people are, like, well you, know,

2050
01:59:37,359 --> 01:59:40,319
well how do they how would they, navigate how would

2051
01:59:40,319 --> 01:59:44,640
they do? This how would they do? That so do

2052
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,960
do we think that every tree knot that we hear

2053
01:59:48,199 --> 01:59:50,640
is bigfoot walking through the woods with A louisville? Slugger

2054
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:54,840
smacking on a tree Because i've walked in the woods

2055
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,840
plenty of times And i've never been able to pick

2056
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:01,800
up a stick that didn't cintegrate because it's been laying.

2057
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:05,399
Speaker 13: THERE i, mean if it's if it's. Fresh, yeah.

2058
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 6: We kind of theorized that these tree knocks some you,

2059
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:13,399
know some of them are obviously probably tree knock you wood?

2060
02:00:13,439 --> 02:00:15,920
On would we think a lot of it is tongue.

2061
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:22,239
Popping and the reason we think that is echo location

2062
02:00:24,039 --> 02:00:26,560
because and What gota started thinking this Is.

2063
02:00:28,399 --> 02:00:30,439
Speaker 8: I'm just, sure well.

2064
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:33,840
Speaker 6: You probably BECAUSE i think it was on the same

2065
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:37,119
channel your show was on with The discovery did uh

2066
02:00:38,199 --> 02:00:42,279
did a show with this guy who was uh he

2067
02:00:42,439 --> 02:00:46,079
was BORN i think he was born legally. Blind he

2068
02:00:46,079 --> 02:00:50,479
couldn't see anything he was. Born he taught himself to

2069
02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:55,159
echo locate and they might put the The so if

2070
02:00:55,239 --> 02:00:57,800
he can. Teae if this guy can teach himself to do,

2071
02:00:57,920 --> 02:01:00,760
that why is it these things can't do? That so

2072
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:03,760
you think of something that massive with that big of chest,

2073
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:08,920
cavity Because i've heard D a do a tongue pop.

2074
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:14,239
That we were at The Bigfoot convention In, gatlinburg And

2075
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:16,760
i'm sure you've been to that it's like there's like

2076
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:22,720
thousands of people in. There it's it's in The Gatlenburg convention, centers.

2077
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 13: So that's a huge. Place there were thousands of people

2078
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:25,720
in there walking around.

2079
02:01:26,119 --> 02:01:31,199
Speaker 6: Talking it was like just ungodly loud wherever there talking

2080
02:01:31,239 --> 02:01:32,279
To eli from small town.

2081
02:01:32,319 --> 02:01:35,680
Speaker 13: Monsters and this is when we were really first starting

2082
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:37,279
to work on this.

2083
02:01:37,439 --> 02:01:40,439
Speaker 6: Theory and dicated a tongue pop and it was like

2084
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:42,079
you could hear a pin drop after you did, it

2085
02:01:42,079 --> 02:01:43,920
because everybody just stopped what they were, doing turn, around

2086
02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:44,560
looked at, us, like.

2087
02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:48,600
Speaker 8: Really what was? That, well the REASON i believe they're

2088
02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:51,359
probably doing it with their mouth Because i've heard them

2089
02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:54,439
answer a wood knock way too. Quick there's no way

2090
02:01:54,479 --> 02:01:57,279
they would have time to pick up a perfect, stick

2091
02:01:58,239 --> 02:02:00,680
find the perfect, tree you know WHAT i, mean because

2092
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:02,319
it's gotta be the braid stick.

2093
02:02:02,159 --> 02:02:04,319
Speaker 6: And the ray tree, exactly that's, what and then.

2094
02:02:04,319 --> 02:02:05,399
Speaker 8: Answer you within three.

2095
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:08,760
Speaker 6: Seconds come, on LIKE i, said he unlet's big puts

2096
02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:10,279
walking around with A louisville slugger on his.

2097
02:02:10,439 --> 02:02:16,279
Speaker 8: Arm, No i'm with, YOU i verifiably agree with.

2098
02:02:16,399 --> 02:02:20,079
Speaker 4: You i've heard tree slaps, too where they've actually just

2099
02:02:20,199 --> 02:02:22,520
slapped the. Tree but, yeah, yeah.

2100
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:28,279
Speaker 6: So anyway that that's that's my theory on is well

2101
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:29,560
not just mine, Obviously.

2102
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:36,760
Speaker 8: Uh thing it's, Interesting uh as good as any other,

2103
02:02:37,159 --> 02:02:39,640
theory you know. What AND i always, figured, well it's

2104
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:42,479
just to communicate with each other kind of.

2105
02:02:43,159 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 6: AND i THINK i think, PROBABLY i think it probably is.

2106
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:48,720
TWOFOLD i think it's a communication, thing especially if they're,

2107
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:51,279
out but if they're in the, CAVE i think it's

2108
02:02:51,479 --> 02:02:53,680
it can be used as echo. Location and there again

2109
02:02:53,720 --> 02:02:56,920
it's a verifiable thing that we've already studied in. Nature you,

2110
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:59,920
know bats have echo, Location, dolphins whales.

2111
02:03:00,199 --> 02:03:02,359
Speaker 8: It, yeah a lot of animals that. Do there's a

2112
02:03:02,439 --> 02:03:06,159
lot of night night jars. Do they're they're a feathered.

2113
02:03:06,239 --> 02:03:12,000
Bird they. Use, uh swallows use echo. Location there's a

2114
02:03:12,159 --> 02:03:15,359
ton of birds that, do and probably a bunch of

2115
02:03:15,439 --> 02:03:17,920
animals we don't even know about yet they use. It,

2116
02:03:19,199 --> 02:03:23,239
yeah you know what ABOUT i don't know if you're

2117
02:03:23,399 --> 02:03:26,239
up on any of, this But cayo'd asked whether you'd

2118
02:03:26,239 --> 02:03:31,640
never heard this strange kind of vibrating hum, or like

2119
02:03:31,800 --> 02:03:36,439
almost like insect wing, sound either loud or, soft in

2120
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:37,159
any of your.

2121
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:42,560
Speaker 6: Research are you just talking about? Infrasound, No, well we don't.

2122
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:44,920
Speaker 8: Know there's a lot of. Reports we're getting a lot

2123
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:49,279
of recordings and now of kind of a, overdriven almost

2124
02:03:49,319 --> 02:03:53,960
tumming bird wing sounds that these creatures seemingly. Make it's,

2125
02:03:54,039 --> 02:03:57,720
unverified but yet we do have some verification because we

2126
02:03:57,800 --> 02:04:02,199
even Found David ella's found an old report from like

2127
02:04:02,399 --> 02:04:05,439
the nineteen thirty four of a woman's down at the

2128
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:10,960
river washing. Clothes she hears this strange hum looks up

2129
02:04:11,039 --> 02:04:14,359
the river bank to expect to see a, hummingbird and

2130
02:04:14,479 --> 02:04:19,520
sees a bigfoot where they're. Young and so we're uncovering

2131
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:23,840
more and more writings about this. Hum more and more

2132
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:25,840
people are sending us FOR i think we've got like

2133
02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:30,079
eighty five recordings. Now SO i just Said i'd throw.

2134
02:04:30,159 --> 02:04:33,199
THAT i know it was kind of catching, card but.

2135
02:04:33,359 --> 02:04:37,640
Speaker 6: No THAT'S i love learning new. Stuff, well if you if.

2136
02:04:37,479 --> 02:04:40,680
Speaker 8: You ever hear it in the, future you're gonna wanna

2137
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:46,399
gonna wanna call Me. Robbie, yep it's a it's a

2138
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:50,279
really strange. Sound it sounds like hummingbird wings but not you,

2139
02:04:50,359 --> 02:04:55,680
know it's like an over Dry. Yeah, carl Even, Carl,

2140
02:04:55,720 --> 02:04:59,520
okay So carl had never heard it whenever, whatever but

2141
02:04:59,680 --> 02:05:04,119
he was playing old tapes from what the nineties? Vhs,

2142
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:10,920
yeah okayo, yeah, Old and all of a sudden we're

2143
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:13,720
listening to those old tapes and there's the hum.

2144
02:05:14,359 --> 02:05:16,359
Speaker 10: HERE i HAVE i, HAVE i actually have it handy.

2145
02:05:16,439 --> 02:05:22,680
Here this is pretty wild about a second, Here.

2146
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:35,039
Speaker 8: Yeah purring another good word for. It mm. Hmmm almost

2147
02:05:35,079 --> 02:05:39,000
sounds like one of those. Reds, yeah, yeah.

2148
02:05:40,479 --> 02:05:41,079
Speaker 6: Well the.

2149
02:05:41,159 --> 02:05:44,680
Speaker 8: GALLAY i can verify. It i've recorded hours of it

2150
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:47,399
up At Snell. Grove it ain't it ain't dis you,

2151
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:51,239
reduce it ain't, bugs it ain't any of that. Crap

2152
02:05:51,439 --> 02:05:55,119
it's something weird that they put off and they may

2153
02:05:55,239 --> 02:05:59,399
do it to comfort. Themselves they may maybe you, know

2154
02:05:59,600 --> 02:06:02,119
something they do when they see. People it may be a,

2155
02:06:02,239 --> 02:06:05,920
communication or they may be doing echo location with it

2156
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:10,319
that might fall right into your. Echolocation, robbie this is

2157
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:12,800
From Snell. Grove, okay Here's Snell.

2158
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:14,439
Speaker 10: Grove this is a five time.

2159
02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:22,640
Speaker 8: SLOOP i, mean it's, uncanny how exactly are once recorded

2160
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:26,119
In texas back in two thousand and, four and mine

2161
02:06:26,239 --> 02:06:29,319
was recorded in two thousand and you, know twenty five

2162
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:33,119
up In. Ontario and we've, got you, know LIKE i,

2163
02:06:33,159 --> 02:06:37,760
said we've collected about eighty five. Recordings, now so that's.

2164
02:06:37,880 --> 02:06:42,479
Wild isn't that a cool? Sound? Though? Yeah but, uh the.

2165
02:06:42,479 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 6: GUY i was telling you about that did all THE

2166
02:06:45,079 --> 02:06:50,119
ufo stuff uh In. Missouri he had AND i don't

2167
02:06:50,119 --> 02:06:52,800
know what skyle was. That it's Just australian, thing but

2168
02:06:52,840 --> 02:06:55,640
it's that little piece of wood all the, strings.

2169
02:06:55,479 --> 02:06:56,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah.

2170
02:06:56,119 --> 02:06:59,039
Speaker 6: Yeah That well where this all came.

2171
02:06:59,119 --> 02:07:05,279
Speaker 8: From robbie was yolt and was just playing recordings of something.

2172
02:07:05,439 --> 02:07:08,520
Eating him and his mom were getting all sorts of

2173
02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:12,600
screams and singing and all sorts of trained. Sounds but

2174
02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:14,760
one of the recordings he thought he would play for

2175
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:18,640
us was this bigfoot basically eating or what we think

2176
02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:23,800
is a, bigfoot and there's this hum that same, sound

2177
02:07:23,880 --> 02:07:27,239
AND i, went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa that sounded

2178
02:07:27,319 --> 02:07:30,439
like it's coming from whatever's. Eating we need to think

2179
02:07:30,479 --> 02:07:32,960
about this here for a. Second and so we didn't

2180
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:35,239
blow it. Off we played it for. People all of a,

2181
02:07:35,279 --> 02:07:39,840
sudden all these recordings and witnesses and all this stuff

2182
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:44,239
started just flooding us from even people who were freaked

2183
02:07:44,279 --> 02:07:46,359
out by, it where you, KNOW i can go on

2184
02:07:46,479 --> 02:07:49,560
and on people that were hearing it from far, away

2185
02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:53,479
and it was like bothering their, ears making their ears.

2186
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:57,399
Inch things like that could be tied to the inverse sound. Phenom,

2187
02:07:58,119 --> 02:08:00,880
yeah we don't. Know we don't even.

2188
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:09,359
Speaker 14: Know it is unverified crap at this, point butified, Verified

2189
02:08:09,439 --> 02:08:12,520
but it's very tantalizing to keep.

2190
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:14,399
Speaker 8: Researching, yeah.

2191
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:17,199
Speaker 6: That's WHAT i was about to.

2192
02:08:17,199 --> 02:08:20,560
Speaker 13: Say that's that's what what you, know you run across

2193
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:21,359
something that you've never.

2194
02:08:21,439 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 6: HEARD i listen to.

2195
02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:22,680
Speaker 7: This.

2196
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:28,840
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah David ellis is working very hard at collecting

2197
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,760
and analyzing and, this and he's going to have a

2198
02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:35,000
section on it in his. Book so we're already to

2199
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:37,119
get the word out because we've barely even got the

2200
02:08:37,199 --> 02:08:40,000
word out. Yet can you imagine we get the word

2201
02:08:40,079 --> 02:08:43,840
out to, everybody you, know in the whole, country that's

2202
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:45,479
when the real magic starts.

2203
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:47,239
Speaker 13: Happening oh, yeah because people are, like oh wait a,

2204
02:08:47,279 --> 02:08:47,960
Minute i've heard.

2205
02:08:48,039 --> 02:08:49,960
Speaker 6: That, YEAH i just didn't know what it.

2206
02:08:50,199 --> 02:08:53,960
Speaker 8: Was, yeah, yeah that's. Exactly most people just blow it

2207
02:08:54,039 --> 02:08:59,119
off because they, think, oh it's a. Hummingbird, Okay and

2208
02:08:59,479 --> 02:09:02,880
you know, what we don't it's un, verified we don't,

2209
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:06,680
know but it seems to be in kind of conjunction

2210
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:11,039
with big foot. Activities so certainly was At snell And

2211
02:09:11,159 --> 02:09:14,079
i've never seen a homybird up, there not that far.

2212
02:09:14,239 --> 02:09:16,039
NORTH i don't think that would.

2213
02:09:16,079 --> 02:09:18,439
Speaker 6: Survive that's a place THAT i would love to go

2214
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:21,600
do some. Investigating. Well that was always one of my

2215
02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:22,720
favorite episodes that y'all.

2216
02:09:22,760 --> 02:09:25,039
Speaker 8: DID i was looking for someone wants to give their

2217
02:09:25,079 --> 02:09:31,039
life to go to snow with. Me, man you make

2218
02:09:31,119 --> 02:09:33,399
that drink every TIME i, do AND i alway wondering

2219
02:09:33,439 --> 02:09:33,840
by coming.

2220
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:38,479
Speaker 6: Home just you don't, know LIKE i, said you just

2221
02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:42,079
need to sign A Robbie. Wrangler, Yeah i'm at to

2222
02:09:42,119 --> 02:09:43,199
go walk straight towards.

2223
02:09:43,239 --> 02:09:46,800
Speaker 8: Whatever, yeah you're rare THAN i am Because i'm. Going

2224
02:09:47,439 --> 02:09:51,479
i'm Just i'm just. Frozen every time something. Happens it's

2225
02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:55,159
really because you there's nowhere to, hide there's nowhere to.

2226
02:09:55,199 --> 02:09:57,640
Go you can't get in your. Car you, know you're

2227
02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:01,119
dropped off by a, plane a, floatplane and you're stuck.

2228
02:10:01,199 --> 02:10:05,039
There if you get something pissed off at you pardon My,

2229
02:10:05,159 --> 02:10:10,840
french you're stuck. There you, know you're you're you're right

2230
02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:12,600
in the middle of a real horror movie at that,

2231
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:19,840
Point so you don't know, anyhow who else has got questions?

2232
02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:21,640
HERE i wanted to wrap up a little.

2233
02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:29,119
Speaker 4: Early Carl, Jeff, oh, absolutely. ABSOLUTELY I i, know uh you,

2234
02:10:29,199 --> 02:10:32,119
know LIKE i, SAID i do a lot of research In,

2235
02:10:32,199 --> 02:10:36,520
missouri and, uh you, KNOW i had a sighting Near West,

2236
02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:40,199
alton which is, uh you, know on The mississippi kind

2237
02:10:40,199 --> 02:10:42,439
of near the WHAT i like calling The Tri river.

2238
02:10:43,880 --> 02:10:48,399
Junction and, uh but the most interesting, thing AND i

2239
02:10:48,439 --> 02:10:50,319
Always i've thought of. THIS i was, like you, KNOW

2240
02:10:50,439 --> 02:10:53,680
i could have reported my big foot sighting to the you,

2241
02:10:53,720 --> 02:10:56,760
Know department Of Natural resources In, missouri but they THINK

2242
02:10:56,800 --> 02:11:00,800
i was, daft, Right but but you, know in that

2243
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:04,920
same area WHERE i had my, sighting one of the,

2244
02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:07,239
Times i'm driving down that road AND i had a

2245
02:11:07,319 --> 02:11:10,680
wolverine across the road in front of, me WHICH i

2246
02:11:10,760 --> 02:11:13,000
thought IF i, called IF i called and told Them,

2247
02:11:13,079 --> 02:11:16,760
bigfoot they'd probably believe me more than me telling them

2248
02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:19,960
that there's a wolverine crossing the road. There, Wow i've

2249
02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:23,199
never seen one of those in the. Wild it stunned.

2250
02:11:23,279 --> 02:11:26,600
ME i knew exactly what it. Was it, was it was,

2251
02:11:27,479 --> 02:11:29,159
muscular it was right in my head. LIGHTS i, mean

2252
02:11:29,159 --> 02:11:31,359
IF i had IF i was going three miles an hour,

2253
02:11:31,439 --> 02:11:33,239
FASTER i would have hit. IT i, mean that's how

2254
02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:35,960
close it, was and it turned and looked right at.

2255
02:11:36,039 --> 02:11:37,960
Speaker 6: ME i, mean and it would have probably flipped your

2256
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:40,000
car and then and then you would have come over

2257
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:41,720
and ripped you out of the. Car and that's.

2258
02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:46,119
Speaker 4: Right but, NO I i that's. A that's a great

2259
02:11:46,159 --> 02:11:49,159
area of research, area especially down in Southern illinois and.

2260
02:11:50,920 --> 02:11:50,960
Speaker 6: That.

2261
02:11:51,079 --> 02:11:53,479
Speaker 4: Area So i'll Be i'll be out there next week

2262
02:11:53,560 --> 02:11:54,279
in the, woods.

2263
02:11:54,199 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 10: So i'll have. Fun good.

2264
02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:59,239
Speaker 6: Luck that's it's. A it's. A it's a good state to.

2265
02:12:01,319 --> 02:12:01,359
Speaker 1: To.

2266
02:12:01,479 --> 02:12:06,079
Speaker 6: Investigate it's never disappointed me Anytime i've been.

2267
02:12:06,159 --> 02:12:12,720
Speaker 8: There good, Deal, jeff if you get any anybody in

2268
02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:16,640
the audience and then we can we can wrap up early. Tonight,

2269
02:12:19,239 --> 02:12:22,640
no it looks like we were supposed to have severe

2270
02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:28,520
weather tonight and it didn't. Happen, no did. It, yeah

2271
02:12:28,600 --> 02:12:33,239
it's a Beautiful i'll take. It you. Know we were hearing,

2272
02:12:33,399 --> 02:12:37,560
like oh my, god Tonight's sunday, night al tornadoes everything

2273
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:39,279
for this area that we're in And.

2274
02:12:39,560 --> 02:12:41,479
Speaker 4: Brimstone yeah, Yeah.

2275
02:12:41,600 --> 02:12:46,159
Speaker 8: Brimstone and it's like a REALLY i think poor event

2276
02:12:46,239 --> 02:12:48,560
gets all you, know she gets a little, worried And i'm,

2277
02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:52,079
like because we had our home destroyed by a storm one,

2278
02:12:52,199 --> 02:12:55,760
time and it's scary trying to get at your home fixed,

2279
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:59,720
nowadays not like it used to be when people actually

2280
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:03,560
Were it's like you have your home wreck, now and

2281
02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:07,039
you're gonna have your home wreck for a long. Time mm. Hmm,

2282
02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:12,039
yeah it's things have. Changed, well we really want to

2283
02:13:12,119 --> 02:13:13,119
thank You robbie for.

2284
02:13:13,399 --> 02:13:15,600
Speaker 6: Coming on and thanks for having me.

2285
02:13:17,079 --> 02:13:19,720
Speaker 8: Such a wealth of. Stories, now let's talk about the

2286
02:13:19,800 --> 02:13:24,880
podcast that you're. ON i THINK i have it. Here

2287
02:13:25,199 --> 02:13:27,880
you're on what's the name of the.

2288
02:13:27,960 --> 02:13:32,119
Speaker 6: Podcast, well last time you were, on we were The Ax.

2289
02:13:32,199 --> 02:13:36,000
Marketable we've changed to the Night Mare Hunters. Podcast oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

2290
02:13:36,039 --> 02:13:41,039
Speaker 8: That's what it. Was AND i noticed the logo kind

2291
02:13:41,039 --> 02:13:44,520
of looks a little bit like a sheriff's badge a little,

2292
02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:49,039
bit a little, bit you. KNOW i just THOUGHT i

2293
02:13:49,119 --> 02:13:51,479
wondered that had something to do with, you but maybe.

2294
02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:58,279
Speaker 13: Not oh, well that's uh actually uh the card and

2295
02:13:58,359 --> 02:13:58,600
the two.

2296
02:13:58,720 --> 02:14:02,159
Speaker 6: Revolvers that's actually the uh that comes from The dark

2297
02:14:02,479 --> 02:14:07,159
from The Dark frontier, series which actually uh all three

2298
02:14:07,199 --> 02:14:10,399
of us are now writing in that. Series uh DA's

2299
02:14:10,399 --> 02:14:14,399
got the Original Dark frontier. Series Uh doc's gonna take

2300
02:14:15,439 --> 02:14:20,720
the his called the Uh Dark Frontiers Vampire. Chronicles my

2301
02:14:21,479 --> 02:14:24,199
THAT'S i actually sent The it's Not Civil war diaries

2302
02:14:24,239 --> 02:14:26,439
BECAUSE i didn't pay attention WHEN i said. It it's

2303
02:14:26,439 --> 02:14:31,640
actually war. Journals uh That Luka luca did MY i

2304
02:14:31,680 --> 02:14:34,319
don't know Where Civil war dis came, from but it's

2305
02:14:34,359 --> 02:14:38,720
Actually Dark frontiers war. Journals and so my area of

2306
02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:41,000
The Dark frontier series is gonna be From World War

2307
02:14:41,079 --> 02:14:46,159
one all the way Up Old war so And doc's

2308
02:14:46,199 --> 02:14:49,800
gonna take everything from The Civil war all the way

2309
02:14:49,880 --> 02:14:52,159
up To World war, one and D a is gonna

2310
02:14:52,159 --> 02:14:53,760
have the modern era for The Dark frontier.

2311
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:57,960
Speaker 8: Series so all your are all your books fiction and

2312
02:14:58,119 --> 02:15:01,319
based on experience and things that you've.

2313
02:15:01,399 --> 02:15:05,199
Speaker 6: Had, yeah there there works of, fiction but there's a

2314
02:15:05,319 --> 02:15:10,199
lot of stuff that like really all the conversation between

2315
02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:15,359
the Characters jed And doc And, declan that's you've probably.

2316
02:15:15,439 --> 02:15:17,479
Heard if you read, them you've probably be watched the.

2317
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Show you'll you'll get the.

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02:15:18,680 --> 02:15:23,239
Speaker 8: Correlation, yeah there's a difference between fiction. Writers coming from

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02:15:23,319 --> 02:15:26,399
a guy who's in the know and he knows the

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02:15:26,600 --> 02:15:30,039
truth of what's going, on and then he rates of you,

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02:15:30,079 --> 02:15:31,239
know it's gonna be a lot more.

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02:15:31,359 --> 02:15:34,199
Speaker 6: Enjoyable, yeah and that's what we try to.

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02:15:34,279 --> 02:15:37,000
Speaker 13: DO i, mean if one of us says something that's, funny.

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02:15:38,199 --> 02:15:39,840
Speaker 6: You'll that's going in a, book.

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02:15:40,840 --> 02:15:44,560
Speaker 8: Gotcha so and you, know we and we.

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02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:44,960
Speaker 10: Try to do.

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02:15:45,039 --> 02:15:48,079
Speaker 6: That we try to because obviously those characters are based

2328
02:15:48,119 --> 02:15:50,800
on the three of us, Anyway so we do try

2329
02:15:50,880 --> 02:15:53,520
to use a lot of the stuff that we you,

2330
02:15:53,600 --> 02:15:55,600
know we hack on each other all the, time so

2331
02:15:55,720 --> 02:15:57,479
that that a lot of that makes it into the.

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02:15:57,520 --> 02:16:02,520
Books and you, know it's it's kind of self service to,

2333
02:16:02,640 --> 02:16:06,199
us but there's a lot of people that really enjoy. That, so,

2334
02:16:07,119 --> 02:16:11,319
yeah all all the books that d a myself and

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02:16:11,399 --> 02:16:14,119
dot right are all connected in one. Way that's every

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02:16:14,159 --> 02:16:17,439
one of those covers THAT i sent, You, Jeff they're

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02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:20,439
all connected to the greater D A.

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02:16:20,600 --> 02:16:22,600
Speaker 10: Verse, Yeah i'm gonna check them. Out that's really. Cool

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02:16:24,039 --> 02:16:26,800
Oh i'm pretty avid, reader so that's, yeah that's good.

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02:16:26,840 --> 02:16:27,479
STUFF i.

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02:16:27,600 --> 02:16:30,319
Speaker 8: HAVE i hear lightning on. SIDE i just TURNED i

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02:16:30,479 --> 02:16:35,559
just turned. ONE i. Swear let's see. Here there was

2343
02:16:35,719 --> 02:16:40,879
SOMETHING i wanted to. Count. Dang oh, WELL i forget

2344
02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:43,520
WHAT i was GONNA i was gonna mention something somebody

2345
02:16:43,639 --> 02:16:49,399
does to. Question but where can they buy your? Books?

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02:16:50,280 --> 02:16:52,520
Speaker 6: Uh they can find all of our books mine included

2347
02:16:52,680 --> 02:16:53,559
On amazon dot.

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02:16:53,639 --> 02:16:56,840
Speaker 8: Com. Uh all.

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02:16:59,399 --> 02:17:01,920
Speaker 6: All my, books with the exception of, two are on

2350
02:17:02,559 --> 02:17:06,079
The Natural VOICE. Ai But i've got something working with

2351
02:17:07,479 --> 02:17:10,399
two of the books now for and that may turn into,

2352
02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:12,559
more but we're trying to work on.

2353
02:17:12,639 --> 02:17:16,079
Speaker 8: That but, uh you're talking about for audio. Books, yeah but.

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02:17:17,559 --> 02:17:18,639
Speaker 6: They're all kindle and.

2355
02:17:20,479 --> 02:17:25,280
Speaker 13: Paperback i've got hardcover for THE i went back and

2356
02:17:25,639 --> 02:17:28,680
redid book one and did an author's cut for the

2357
02:17:28,959 --> 02:17:31,200
anniversary release of. It Since i've been writing for a,

2358
02:17:31,319 --> 02:17:33,680
year went back and kind of tightened up because WHEN i.

2359
02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:37,879
Speaker 6: First first started the first two, books D a AND,

2360
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:39,719
i people were wanting us to do, them wanting us

2361
02:17:39,719 --> 02:17:41,239
Because doc hadn't even started writing at that.

2362
02:17:41,319 --> 02:17:45,239
Speaker 13: Point but people were, like y'all need to connect the.

2363
02:17:45,239 --> 02:17:46,959
Books you need to connect the. Books but we had

2364
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:49,120
no clue how to do. It AND da, said, well

2365
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:50,239
if we're gonna do, it we need to do it.

2366
02:17:50,360 --> 02:17:51,840
Speaker 8: Right and.

2367
02:17:53,559 --> 02:17:55,520
Speaker 13: So we were one of the times THAT i was

2368
02:17:55,559 --> 02:17:57,840
sitting down or was It, Missouri he AND i were

2369
02:17:57,879 --> 02:17:58,760
sit down And i'm.

2370
02:17:58,680 --> 02:18:01,079
Speaker 6: Like wait a, MINUTE i got an, idea AND i

2371
02:18:01,399 --> 02:18:03,040
kind of rolled it past him and he's, like, OH

2372
02:18:03,159 --> 02:18:06,040
i like. That so then the next week we had

2373
02:18:06,120 --> 02:18:08,639
doc on. Uh we got him on a video call

2374
02:18:08,680 --> 02:18:11,399
where all three of us been. Talking we sat down

2375
02:18:11,479 --> 02:18:13,840
for about two and a half maybe three hours and

2376
02:18:14,280 --> 02:18:16,760
hammered everything out and we figured out how to how

2377
02:18:16,799 --> 02:18:20,000
to tie them all. In so from the middle of

2378
02:18:20,239 --> 02:18:23,959
book three, on it's WHERE i really start tied everything

2379
02:18:24,040 --> 02:18:26,719
in with his stuff and he started Dropping easter.

2380
02:18:26,799 --> 02:18:29,639
Speaker 13: Eggs so with the first, ONE i wanted to go

2381
02:18:29,719 --> 02:18:31,000
back and kind of tighten it.

2382
02:18:31,040 --> 02:18:32,799
Speaker 6: Up a little bit and fix some are BECAUSE i

2383
02:18:32,799 --> 02:18:34,159
DIDN'T i still don't know What i'm, doing BUT i

2384
02:18:34,239 --> 02:18:36,079
really didn't know WHAT i was doing in book. One

2385
02:18:36,600 --> 02:18:38,559
SO i went back and just did a just did

2386
02:18:38,639 --> 02:18:41,120
an author's, cut added some things and tightened some things,

2387
02:18:41,239 --> 02:18:43,000
up changed some things that didn't need to be. There

2388
02:18:43,799 --> 02:18:47,360
so it's a and that's a hardcover edition on that.

2389
02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:52,159
Speaker 8: One very. Cool we have to wrap this. Up we

2390
02:18:52,280 --> 02:18:57,319
got lightning bolts hitting outside of my. Window, yeah he'd

2391
02:18:57,360 --> 02:19:01,799
having ear piece and think of the. Power so just

2392
02:19:01,879 --> 02:19:03,680
tay't tit. You everybody will do our wisdom.

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02:19:05,399 --> 02:19:09,799
Speaker 1: Back it's now time for Untold Radio Am wisdom of The.

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02:19:09,840 --> 02:19:15,159
WEEK a bad skeptic doesn't, investigate they, Dismiss they decide,

2395
02:19:15,239 --> 02:19:18,840
first then filter facts to protect what they already. BELIEVE

2396
02:19:19,479 --> 02:19:23,959
a good skeptic does the. Opposite they stay, curious investigate,

2397
02:19:24,079 --> 02:19:28,399
deeply study both, sides and remain open to new evidence

2398
02:19:29,079 --> 02:19:33,319
even when it challenges their. Assumptions real skepticism is not

2399
02:19:33,559 --> 02:19:38,799
closed minded. Denial it's disciplined, investigation guided by looking at all,

2400
02:19:38,920 --> 02:19:42,280
information even if it goes against their. Bias Good, Night

2401
02:19:42,399 --> 02:19:44,799
we hope to see you all next. Week if you

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02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:47,639
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02:19:51,200 --> 02:19:53,799
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2406
02:19:57,799 --> 02:19:59,920
now back To doug And jeff for Our.

2407
02:20:03,879 --> 02:20:06,280
Speaker 10: Yeah that that actually referred really, well back to something

2408
02:20:06,280 --> 02:20:08,760
we talked about earlier about just being open. Minded when

2409
02:20:08,760 --> 02:20:11,319
you're open, minded you, know none of us have our

2410
02:20:12,079 --> 02:20:15,280
identity wrapped up in a single piece of evidence or

2411
02:20:15,280 --> 02:20:18,719
a single. Theory so if something new comes, out it's

2412
02:20:18,760 --> 02:20:21,040
not going to destroy my. World it's just new, evidence

2413
02:20:21,319 --> 02:20:24,360
change our, minds we, learn we move. Forward i'm not,

2414
02:20:25,159 --> 02:20:27,280
Yeah i'm not tied to any theory or any kind

2415
02:20:27,319 --> 02:20:27,879
of piece of.

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02:20:27,920 --> 02:20:31,479
Speaker 4: EVIDENCE i always tell People i'm, like you, know even

2417
02:20:31,520 --> 02:20:34,040
if you have not had that experience and someone else

2418
02:20:34,120 --> 02:20:36,760
has and you're listening to, them you, know that's a data,

2419
02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:40,680
point and that's a point you put, aside and then guess,

2420
02:20:40,719 --> 02:20:43,239
what someday you're going to have that experience and you're

2421
02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:46,520
going to, Go, wow that messes exactly with you, know

2422
02:20:47,040 --> 02:20:53,159
other sightings or reports and, yeah and then your mind's, expanded, right.

2423
02:20:53,959 --> 02:20:56,760
Speaker 10: Stick to the. Facts nothing but the. Facts that's that's

2424
02:20:56,799 --> 02:21:04,680
What steamberg. Says, dug your MIC's. Off there we, go,

2425
02:21:04,920 --> 02:21:05,520
Sir we are.

2426
02:21:06,920 --> 02:21:12,879
Speaker 8: Dork, thanks Thanks carl for joining, Us thank You robbie for,

2427
02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:18,920
everything and with, that we will be back next. Week please.

2428
02:21:19,079 --> 02:21:23,639
Subscribe we really need, it really appreciate, it and we

2429
02:21:23,760 --> 02:21:26,840
will be back with a great guest next. Week good, night.

2430
02:21:27,079 --> 02:21:32,280
EVERYBODY i call you up in the middle of the

2431
02:21:32,520 --> 02:21:36,159
night and bothered by dreams and feeling all.

2432
02:21:36,360 --> 02:21:39,879
Speaker 3: Day you give me, comfort say just give it some.

2433
02:21:40,280 --> 02:21:43,879
Speaker 15: Time by the end of our, Talk i'm feeling just.

2434
02:21:44,200 --> 02:21:44,559
Speaker 8: Fine.

2435
02:21:45,200 --> 02:21:55,200
Speaker 15: June always know when we be the, same noordinary we

2436
02:21:55,440 --> 02:21:56,280
got going.

2437
02:21:56,680 --> 02:22:04,920
Speaker 16: ON i figure up in fifteen hour, fard we head

2438
02:22:04,959 --> 02:22:06,799
on down the road till.

2439
02:22:06,799 --> 02:22:11,200
Speaker 3: We care for just being in the sun and bo.

2440
02:22:11,440 --> 02:22:13,360
Wind if the ancious.

2441
02:22:13,000 --> 02:22:17,840
Speaker 12: Top call, able head on home again everybody else chan.

2442
02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:24,200
Speaker 8: Seen will we be long in?

2443
02:22:24,680 --> 02:22:31,600
Speaker 5: Order may we got go in at the end of

2444
02:22:31,760 --> 02:22:35,719
the world together forever swan in our.

2445
02:22:35,879 --> 02:22:39,600
Speaker 16: Ray if better you should be in town in our,

2446
02:22:39,719 --> 02:22:41,239
way we never.

2447
02:22:41,479 --> 02:22:44,719
Speaker 3: Concuse far and always.

2448
02:22:46,120 --> 02:22:46,479
Speaker 5: All the.

2449
02:22:46,639 --> 02:22:52,719
Speaker 16: Time we would be together every, day BUT i never

2450
02:22:53,200 --> 02:22:58,159
would be less straight up away back home to.

2451
02:22:58,360 --> 02:23:01,000
Speaker 5: You love again, anyway.

2452
02:23:17,399 --> 02:23:22,559
Speaker 16: Every end of the world together forever is well in our,

2453
02:23:22,639 --> 02:23:24,120
way if ever.

2454
02:23:24,399 --> 02:23:26,040
Speaker 3: You should be endowed or.

2455
02:23:26,200 --> 02:23:33,280
Speaker 2: Comprate they never composed a part In. Lorway at the

2456
02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:36,120
end of the world together.

2457
02:23:36,120 --> 02:23:37,680
Speaker 5: Forever is fond In.

2458
02:23:37,959 --> 02:23:41,600
Speaker 3: Norway ifgether you should be endowed In.

2459
02:23:41,840 --> 02:23:45,479
Speaker 5: Hollways they never compose a part In.

2460
02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:52,239
Speaker 12: Holway what a time when we read together we never

2461
02:23:52,479 --> 02:23:57,520
became know they never would be astray.

2462
02:23:57,120 --> 02:23:58,879
Speaker 5: Than all our way.

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02:23:59,079 --> 02:24:00,799
Speaker 8: Back did you