Speaker 1: Tonight's guest is officer Robbie Rings and guest co host Carlside.
Speaker 2: Looking back on the life that you leave him. Then
resting home in the crowd, stick around through the create
the feeling, go the fire. You're dancing around on hearing
the sound of the treating.
Speaker 3: And no one cares where he's coming from.
Speaker 4: My ears and.
Speaker 5: New ring and feeding.
Speaker 6: I guess me.
Speaker 3: I'm new from the.
Speaker 7: Start's other days, my close.
Speaker 3: You one of these days will be the world.
Speaker 7: Look at for Frances, what a sas.
Speaker 3: He's my cost my coast, leading the fuse of the.
Speaker 2: Ashes, the spirits, lad.
Speaker 8: Up and.
Speaker 9: Looking down the shore life from the Untold Radio Network.
It's Untold Radio Am with Monster Quest producer host Doug
Hicheck and co host Jeff Pirella Jr. Untold Radio Am
is going live right now.
Speaker 1: This show is for entertainment purposes only. Yep, that's the ticket.
Now Here are your Untold Radio A m posts, Doug
high Check and Jeff Corella Jr.
Speaker 10: Hello Jeff, Hello everyone.
Speaker 8: I sorry we're late. I've been I've been battling computer
problems non stop. Yeah oh oh what even got better?
I get into my studio even the lights wouldn't work right,
it would just like, really, is there is there an
electrical issue with me?
Speaker 10: Do you live in the twilight zone? That song?
Speaker 8: Oh my god, yeah, we were haven't last time. We're
trying to watch TV and the TV cap shutting off
or like what is going on? And then it would
come back on. Then we turn it back on and
it would come on without follow you. So you're like, okay,
they need unplug it said. So it's just been NonStop
technical since last Sunday. Actually, even when I went to
send send some notes to you, I get a message
and I sent it to you, the strangest message ever
from my crossoft. It says, and this is God's truth.
It goes, it says, you have changed. What does it say?
Speaker 10: Like I sent you something? You've changed?
Speaker 8: You've changed your email? And then it's gotten okay, Like,
of course I've changed my email. I wrote in it.
Speaker 10: What does it say, Jeff, I sent me a screencap here?
Speaker 8: It's like the weirdest message. It means the.
Speaker 10: Operation cannot be performed because the message has been changed.
Speaker 8: Exactly, the message has been changed. Well that's what all
messages are anyhow, Hello fellow on toldians Hey, we are
we are here. We're gonna have a shoe.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Bad beginnings always mean a good ending that I know.
Gonna pay your dues. This live live YouTube stuff is difficult.
It can be. It can be. Sometimes it goes smooth
and silk. Right, We'll have like ten shows that's smooth
as silk, and then.
Speaker 10: That live is always an adventure. I uh, I used
to do. I used to do TV news live that
was an adventure. And there's something like it. It's uh,
it's kind of a unique form of stress. It's live
without a net.
Speaker 11: It is.
Speaker 8: I remember I used to go to KSTP and I
had friends over there at the news and the countdown
clock would be ticking and we'd always be playing practical
jokes on the noise right before they went on the air,
absolutely right before it was just torture on them. Anyhow, okay, ah,
so any what do we got going on here?
Speaker 1: We have?
Speaker 8: Well, first off, a couple of things. This is your
home for unverified crap. We do know that is, and
we have we do have a great guest who is verified.
He is Officer Robbie Rains. And we have a guest host,
Carl's Up and you can bring Carl up right now.
Speaker 10: All right, welcome Carl, Carl, help us co host. Good
to see Carl, Good to see you.
Speaker 8: Oh, good to see you.
Speaker 4: Glad to be here.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you almost had to replace me tonight, I mean anyhow,
so Carl's gonna help us out. But we've got Officer
Robbie rains On and we will step into the shadows,
obviously with a man who's been decades, literally decades, chasing
what most police officers and people won't even talk about,
let alone a police officer. So he's a veteran police officer,
train tracker. He's author of what ten books?
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, he sent me the book coverage. It's quite
a few.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So we're gonna definitely want to stand by Officer
rains today. Also have a bevy of other interesting and
chilling content.
Speaker 10: Bevy a bevy. We don't have a bevy very often.
Speaker 8: No, we don't. It's a bevy. I know you're gonna
latcher right onto that. It's like I latch, I latch
onto some of your words, doctor pie whatever, yeah whatever,
Yeah they are so yeah, but you're gonna want to
get start putting the lights down a little lower, right,
get your comfy chair, remove the dog from the comfy chair,
put them back on your lap. Get a cold beverage
on like Jeff. Don't want to get Jeff's cold beverage.
I don't have any beverage. I don't have water.
Speaker 10: I didn't even grab a root except for one time.
Speaker 8: I'm even I'm even out of rip here. But I
do want to go over a couple of things. One,
the New York Bigfoot Conference is October second and an
October third. You can go get your tickets for that.
They're available right now. Go to I remember the website,
it's just New York Bigfoot Conference dot com. I believe
you can New York Bigfoot Conference and find them on
Facebook too, and there they'll be links to ticket masters
so you can get your tickets conference. And I bring
that up as I will be speaking there going this time. Nice, Yeah,
I'll be speaking there.
Speaker 10: Awesome.
Speaker 8: Yeah, along with Let me think here, Maria Mayor. I
know Adam Davis is going to be around. Uh, Steve
Coles is going to be one of the MC's for
the panel. God, why is it I cannot think of
any of the things or any of the speakers are
going to be there. I can't think of it, Lauren Coleman. Whatever,
just go to the go to the website and look
at him too, waved and uh, we've got a weird
and fast news. We've got a real quick tech breakdown tonight.
That's kind of cool. And we've got clips and we
have time. We even get a little a little bit
of trivia. But let's get on with the show.
Speaker 10: Time for some news. Let's do it.
Speaker 8: Let's do it. It's time for weird and fast knees.
Speaker 10: Alrighty.
Speaker 8: First off, Currently, in giant squid have been detected off
Australia coast, apparently for the first Why it says this,
I don't know. It says the first time in twenty
five years? Did they have them there before?
Speaker 10: I never heard about that, And you happen to know
a little bit about it.
Speaker 8: I know good about that. Yeah, and I never read
there were any giant squid in Australia. Scientists exploring deep
underwater canyons of Western Australia found environmental DNA DNA evidence
of a massive giant squid working thousands of feet below
the surface. The legendary creature can grow over forty feet long.
Was eyes the size of pizzas, and the one that
we filmed had one point five foot wide eyes.
Speaker 10: It's crazy.
Speaker 8: That's about the size of a pizza, isn't it, Jeff
small larger? Yeah, Yeah, it says this creature is so
elusive that live sightings are almost non existent. I think
they're totally non existent live sightings. Researchers say the deep
sea still contains countless unknown species. So there you go,
And then I like this next one. AI says secretly
found over why? It says secretly once again? Over one
hundred hidden planets? Now why is it secretly? I'm talking
about it. It's not a very good secret, says researchers
using advanced I thought all AI was advanced, so yeah,
I don't even want to know what advanced AAI systems are.
Advanced DAIS systems discovered more than one hundred previously in
planets buried inside old NASA telescope data. Some are bizarre
altra short period world's orbiting dangerously close to other stars.
Scientists say that discovery proves AI is becoming one of
astronomy's most powerful new tools. Yeah, that could dramatically speed
up future discoveries.
Speaker 10: It excels at processing lots of data. And that's really
what astronomy is, just lots and lots and lots of
data to go through.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's actually amazing, Carl. Do you use a much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well we're starting to really for supply chain things
in order to get a little smarter and trying to
figure out where the best parts go and where when
and where?
Speaker 8: And but is anybody using it for software development? I
know you're involved.
Speaker 4: Yes, Actually so it's doing it's doing a lot of
the what I would say gruntwork in coding and uh
and that really certainly assists, but you still need to
have that human intervention to make sure that it's not hallucinating. Right.
Speaker 8: Well, that's yeah, that's the way to go. Yeah, I
think my computer was I think somebody updated the microw
ops micro Soft software. That's why my computer was sending
me completely nonsense messages. It's just yeah, I'm sure that
had something to do with some of these companies incorporating
updates and using AI. And I think there's just tons
of bugs yea. And speaking of bugs, scientists discover insects
that changes. Listen to this from hot pink to green,
says researchers discovered a tropical katie did that starts life
pink before slowly transforming into green over a few weeks.
Sounds like me. Scientists believe the strange color shift helps
the insect mimic rainforest leaves. Yeah, I wouldn't think hot
pink would be a great discuss guys in a rainforest. Yeah,
so it mimics rainforests leaves. Interesting And then we have
obviously during the last I think it was right when
we came on, they had done a massive UFO file
release and some people are really into it and some aren't.
But unless you actually go to the dot govern read
the documents, you're probably not gonna be so wild with
the video.
Speaker 10: Yeah, there isn't like any real smoking gun and it's
not really anything that.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, we need we need the club close.
We need the up close stuff, you know, like a
guy walking around giving us a tour that I could
just see Carl there with a camera walking around the
UFL going now look at this baby, it's got bucket seats.
I want to see the bucket seats. Okay, So the
pages of really released uap UFO related government documents were
dumped online this week reigniting debate about unexplained aerial phenomena.
Researchers estimate the archives now contain tens of thousands of
pages of military reports, radar logs, pilot testimony, and intelligence
summaries that accumulated over decades. While most experts say there
is no smoking gun, like Jeff has said, many believe
the real story is the government's growing willingness to publicly
acknowledge uncertainty surrounding unexplained encounters. Well, the only way they're
going to, really, I think, satisfy anybody is just dump
it all, dump everything, because you know, if you're holding
back anything, that's what we want to know.
Speaker 4: We'll sort it out. We'll sort it out.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, exactly, just give it to us.
Speaker 8: I think we can all handle it. Yeah, there'll be
there'll be more debates. It'll last still good two weeks.
People will be fighting online and it'll die out.
Speaker 10: That'll be the end of it.
Speaker 8: Life will go on, Our bills will come in. You know,
we'll still pay taxes, still have to fill our cars
up with gas. It ain't gonna change nothing. Ye. And
then there is a new evidence that suggests the ancient
Maya civilizations transported live dogs across huge distances hundreds of
years ago.
Speaker 10: Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 8: Now, when did the Maya civilization die out? Jeff, I
thought it was a little longer than hundreds of years ago.
Speaker 10: Like seventeenth century together.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's like what over a thousand, two
thousand years ago?
Speaker 4: No, I was gonna say no with Balboa, and it
was probably the mid there was probably still pockets, but
probably mid fifteen hundred, yeah.
Speaker 10: Ok, sixteenth century fifteen yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it says and the dogs were traded much like
livestock or valuable goods between major cities. Researchers believe that
dogs likely serve ceremonial, cultural, and practical purposes. Now, one
thing I did notice that all the dogs that they
talked about were short leg dogs, and they're usually used
for hunting small game, just like the beagle. You know,
they get they can get in fox burrows and rabbit
burrows and that kind of thing. For Yeah, you would think, yeah,
I don't think they were just there. I don't think
they were showing dogs and dogs showing given ribbons.
Speaker 10: Probably not, but the and whatnot? Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, then we have next is hidden voids
found inside the Egyptian period, the ptermid. They keep finding
new things, right with all these new advances in light
are and you kind of think the government probably knew
a lot of this a long, long, long time ago.
But now private researchers are using new radar and ultrasonic
scans reportedly detected hidden empty chambers beneath parts of the
pyramid in Minkura in Egypt. Researchers say the voids may
support old theories that unknown chambers or structural mysteries remain
hidden inside the ancient pyramids.
Speaker 10: There's almost certainly more stuff going on there than we were.
Speaker 8: Seen, yeah, it says. Archaeologists are now debating what might
still be buried underneath. Hopefully it's gold, just gold, piles.
Speaker 10: Of gold, could be technology, who knows, I never know.
Speaker 8: Ah. And then Earth's oldest animal Researchers studying ancient Canadian
rocks believe they may have found traces of animal life
dating back nearly eight hundred and ninety million years, far
older than previously believed possible. If confirmed, the discovery could
rewrite the timeline for when an animal life first appeared
on Earth. And that looks kind of ugly. I don't
think it was very big.
Speaker 10: I'm sure.
Speaker 8: Well, these are tiny fossils that they found some primitive animals,
and then plants scream when stressed, just like people. Researchers
studying plants discovered that certain species emit tiny ultrasonic popping
sounds when under stress from drought, damage, or lack of water.
The sounds are too high pitched for humans to hear naturally,
but sensitive micro phones captured what scientists describe as clicking
or crackling noises that don't confuse. This is when they
put the electrodes into plants. This is actually sound that
they're actually picking up with microphones. So that's totally different
than what you may have heard in the best, which
is that stuff's interesting. But I don't you know, I
mean to me that would be could be affected by,
you know, just the radio waves in the air. Some
researchers now believe nearby insects and even other plants may
react to these hidden distress signals. So if you walk
in the room and you hear your plant your house
playing screaming, you'll know where that voice is. Give it
some water, and then are we're done with the news,
And then are untold weird Fact of the Week.
Speaker 1: It's now time for untold radio weird fact of the week.
Speaker 6: It is kind of weird.
Speaker 8: Our bumper is weird.
Speaker 10: All right, this is pretty wild his story.
Speaker 8: Yeah it is. It's like this guy was not his time, right.
Oh man, So what happened to my My notes are gone?
Do you have the notes on those? Oh? There, it
is never mind, I've got it. I doubled up on
my photos. So tonight's weird fact sounds literally impossible, but
it's absolutely true. A Japanese engineer named Jeff It's your turn.
Dyama Gachi or Yama Gucci is last name, So Tumo
so sounds perfect. So Tumo Yamagatchi is the only officially
recognizes man to have survived both atomic bomb blasts in
World War Two. On August sixth, ninety five, Yamaguchi was
in Hiroshima on a business trip when the first atomic
bomb exploded. I thought I was having a bad day
less than two miles away. Okay, So he was burned
and injured. He somehow survived the devastation and boarded a
train back home to Nagasaki, not the place to go.
Three days later, while describing the horror of Hiroshima to
his boss. The second atomic bomb detonated over Nagasaki and
somehow he survived again. Out of the two cities destroyed
by nuclear weapons, one man lived through both. So and
I just, you know, I think these are interesting. I literally,
in the eighties through Larry the Axe Henning, I was
business partners with his son Kurt Anning, mister Perfect known
as but Larry. He was kind of roping me into
doing some of these promos for charity work. So I
was doing charity work and they were he was working
on a charity thing and he grabs me and he
goes talk to this guy. He's the guy that piloted
Theola gay and I'm like, oh god, okay. So I
kind of reluctantly grabbed the phone and ended up talking
to Paul Tibbett's gun dropped the bomb on your Ashima.
Speaker 10: I just saw a couple of years ago at DC.
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 8: So would you want to talk to the guy that
dropped the Hiroshima bomb there? You would?
Speaker 10: Absolutely. I'm a history buff and yeah.
Speaker 8: For sure, I thought this could be some bad going
my way.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I even have a story with my brother in law's
grandfather actually loaded the Aola gay that day.
Speaker 8: Oh really, wow, Well there we go. We're connected again, Carl.
I always, I always have some aspect. Yes, we always.
Me and Carl are connected somewhere. We're probably gonna find
out we got the same cousin here soon. So what
do we want to do? We got robbies here. Now
let's do our Let's jump to our clips, play some
quick clips.
Speaker 10: Here we go.
Speaker 8: All right, So these are seven of the world's greatest
clips that I chose Clip one. The sound is good.
This I'm just always amazed by this because I swear togain.
These guys got gravity figured out completely. Go ahead and
watch some of the leaves they do from a skinny start.
It's just crazy.
Speaker 10: To throttle and clutch control of the balance. It's just crazy. Yeah,
that is.
Speaker 8: I actually have an old nineteen seventies trial it's called trials,
and I have a beautiful bike, and I would be
afraid to do any leaping from rock to rock.
Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, I was gonna say my favorite part
was the guy just standing there as he's leaping to
the rock. That the guy is standing right behind.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, he's gonna just not run and run into him. Yeah,
all right. Clip two. This is just a really up
close macro shot. I used to do wildlife shots like
not quite this good, but I had a pretty powerful
macrolands and I could do some pretty amazing stuff. We'll
just leave this monster. I had no idea they had
appendages at the bottom of their chin, little on, little
mini arms. You see those two there that folded in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's.
Speaker 10: That's incredible.
Speaker 8: Could you imagine if that thing was seventy feet off?
Oh no, that would be like, all right, that is cool.
That is such a cool And then clip three. Sound
is good. This is the tawny frog mouth. I think
they should have named it the log bird. You would
never spot one of these they show it. If they
show it from the side, it just looks like a stick.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a camouflage man.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I think we should start decorating our camera
traps like nonny frogs. There's that's an irritating I'm not
I'm not a fan of their song. And speaking of
pulsating things, Clip for the sound is good. This is
a pulsar star and what it sounds like.
Speaker 6: And this is.
Speaker 8: I agree. Did you imagine our son if it did
that dragon spots. Listen to that racket only I don't
know why I picked annoying sound they did. Let's see
what what other annoying sounds conduct you? Oh? This one
here is this is about. This is really interesting and
it's about the uh mirror and a u Ghani effect.
It's called where things that are similar tracked. Right. We
all know about water tension, we see it all the time,
but these things this some of the video in here.
I may maybe skip ahead and then you know, anybody
can look it up. Go ahead and play uh this one.
Speaker 11: Watch this law of attraction states that like attracts like.
Speaker 4: But I never thought of it.
Speaker 8: As far Jeff Forward of liquids, All right, watch this.
Speaker 11: In two thousand and nine, an undergraduate at the University
of Wisconsin was doing an experiment where he dropped some
drops of food coloring onto a sterile glass slide. To
his astonishment, the drops seem to come alive. They began
moving on their own and interacting with each other. Had
he just discovered a new form of life? He studied
this phenomenon on his own until later joining the PhD
program at Stanford, where he and his team finally got
to the bottom of what was going on. They found
that these droplets mimic living cells and could even self sort.
In this video, I'm going to show you how this
works and even show exactly what to do to mimic
this experiment at home for yourself. The reason this happens
with food coloring specifically is because of a special ingredient
called propylne glycol. This is a drop of water, and
this is a drop of propylene glycol. When I put
each of these liquids on clean glass slides, they spread
out almost completely. But something interesting happens. When we combine
the two drops into one drop, they don't spread out
as well. So if we look at the drop height
versus the percent of propelling glycol, we get a curve
that looks like this. For some reason, when we mix
the drops and almost any ratio, the drops get an
edge to them that puff out. The reason this happens
is when the evaporation of water from the drop isn't uniform,
it can move. For example, if I place another drop
of the same mixture of propellane glycol and water near
each other, the water from each of the drops starts
to evaporate. But notice how in the middle of the
two drops, the evaporated water builds up more, so there's
a higher relative humidity in between the drops than on
the other side of the drops. Water doesn't evaporate fast forward.
Speaker 8: This drop is attracted.
Speaker 11: Anything with water up and drives it away. Really, the
water drop is pulling the propylan glycol rich drop. If
I make a path for the drops, you can see
that it just drives it around and around in a circle.
This can even go uphill against gravity. The two drops
pushing each other is basically the same mechanism that's causing
either drop to move in.
Speaker 8: The first place. The flow goes from low surface.
Speaker 11: Tension high propylene glycol areas to high surface tension high
water areas. What's really neat about this is that the
liquids can even self sort. If I arrange the liquid
so that they go from high concentration of propylene glycol
to low concentration, then whatever concentration of drop I roll
down this incline, it will find its corresponding concentration bin.
This is because the higher water concentration drops get repelled
until they find their same concentration. This is so cool,
So if you want to try this at home, it's
actually not that hard to do, but you have to
be very specific with how you set it up.
Speaker 8: First.
Speaker 11: You need very clean glass or it won't work.
Speaker 8: That's good, Well, little to show people cool.
Speaker 10: It does not like that's wild.
Speaker 8: You can look it up. But there's a certain brand
of food coloring that does it really well, and there's
another brand that doesn't. It has to do with that
propylene glyco. Yeah, that'd be a fun experiment for kids
to see. Yeah, they putting a food coloring in our food.
This is propylene glecol All right, this clip. Have you
heard Carl and Jeff have you heard about the Everglades
being on fire last week? Oh? Yeah, the Everglades are
on fire. And it's really odd to me because you
would think those plants would be so soaked with moisture,
you know, because they're in standing water. But there is
dry grass. It comes out in the water. But you
still would think they'd be enough moisture and humidity in
the fire. Wooden bird, But go ahad and blave.
Speaker 10: This tons of oxygen.
Speaker 12: No, the devastating fire in the Florida Everglades has already
burned eleven thousand acres.
Speaker 6: Now this might be a silly question.
Speaker 12: But as you can see from this aerial video, why
is this fire burning in a straight line?
Speaker 6: Does it have to do with something of the geography
of the area, because you got to admit, those lines
look almost pretty perp.
Speaker 8: So if anyone out there has the answer to this question,
please leave it in the cop Yeah. And I heard
other people mentioning it's just burning in this exact perfect
straight line, which is on there. You go, Carl, think
about that one tonight when you're trying to go to sleep.
Absolutely all right, Clip seven, last one? Sound is good. Uh,
this is just a really short clip, but this is amazing.
These guys are athletic. It's the ultimate HACKI sack. Go
ahead and play this, So it's like play volleyball, but
you can't use their hands. We would be totally useless
on that team.
Speaker 10: Jeff, Yeah, Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna be Yeah.
Speaker 8: We could probably bump it up with our head. We
could probably you know, do that, but I doubt we'd
be doing backflips.
Speaker 6: And that.
Speaker 4: Looks like broken bones to me. I don't know.
Speaker 8: Oh god, yes, I actually I tell people this. I
broke my ankle in volleyball. You know, jumping up to
spike a ball landed. My ankle was crooked when I
came down on it, and it literally broke my leg
where I limped for ten years after time. So volleyball
can be dangerous.
Speaker 4: Oh, it absolutely can. I'm I'm I'm proof of that
because you know, I played the two man saying volleyball
back in the eighties.
Speaker 8: Oh really, what did you break?
Speaker 4: I broke everything? You know, that's why these fingers, you know,
every finger is broken here.
Speaker 8: You know, Well it looks so team, but if you
really get into it and you really want to win,
and you know you're competitive, focusing on your how high
you're going, right, you're not thinking about when you come
back down.
Speaker 4: Oh I had an indoor I had a forty two
inch vertical and outdoor I had a thirty four inch
vertical out So wow.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was a really good volleyball player and I
still like playing it today, and I do play it today.
But if I'm more careful, yeah, you know, I'm not
going to sacrifice my leg. All right, tech break down.
We're going to do this really quick and then we're
going to bring on Robbie. And it's just about a
method that you can use to hide your camera tracks, right,
camera traps. I see camera tracks, camera traps, and we
are back all right now if you can see there
is a just a standard camera trap, because guys, we
can't just keep strapping them on trees. They're not doing much.
So one mistake researchers make WI trel cams is placing
them a normal human eye level. So an animal or
obviously our target would be probably bigfoot or anything highly observant,
moves through the woods regularly. You know, they're looking high level,
just like humans. I would imagine that they're similar. The
idea is to look for a natural feature like a
stump that you can hollow out and not and so
what I'm recommending you do is bring in a tarp,
hollow it out any way you can, or a muddy
like a moss pile like this, bring out whatever you
shovel out, whether it's wood or whatever, you do, haulow
it out with you. And that way you've got. Now
you've increased your odds by fourfold.
Speaker 10: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8: Because they can only see it in one direction. They
come from the back of the sides. They're not going
to see it, especially if that hump was already there
in the forest. We'll talk about while they noticed. You know,
if you went in their living room and you change
things and blah blah blah. The idea is to not
change something. Go low, go very high. But gow low
is safe. High is dangerous because you're how are you
gonna wenna climb a tree and carry a ladder? So
I recommend you go low. These lenses are very wide angle.
It shouldn't affect anything, and you can see now I
would have you got to make sure your your passive
center sensors are visible. But you can pile even more
stuff on it. So there you go. I mean, that's
that simple.
Speaker 3: Carl.
Speaker 10: Are you a.
Speaker 8: A victim of putting them on tree trunks too? I have.
Speaker 4: I have done that in the past, and I've put
them up very high by foolishly climbing up trees, having
them angled down and doing all these different things and
leaves and branches, and you know, they're totally hidden, or
so I thought, and you know it was. It's been
some time that I've given up on camera traps where
I just it's like I'm just going to interact with them.
Speaker 8: Not well, that's fine, that's cool, but we'd still like
to get some. You know, I just believe there's no
reason to give up. The camera traps are harmless to them,
They're not going to get hurt. Well, anything good happens
out of some real series of good video or pictures,
clear will be protected land, you know. So that's all
I ever think about. But the idea is to not
disturb their area. And maybe another idea is take a
couple of people and have them kind of do a
drive around the perimeter to make sure there's no spies.
So to walk. Have a couple of people walk around
clear the area. Just keep walking in a spiral, clear
the area. So when the person is digging out that
moss stump or that that wooden moss eats that rotten
stump to place the camera trap in it, they're gonna
be free of spies.
Speaker 10: Good idea.
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I want to do a shout out to Matt Langford.
There he's he said, he placed his high end trees
and the next several will now go low. There you
go like that, and you know, don't give up. Spend
a year to two years on doing going low like that. Search,
start searching, and maybe even do it a little out
of their area. Maybe not right in their area, maybe
on the perimeter. A lot of people work certain areas
they know are really active. Maybe do it on the
perimeter of the area. All right, let's get to Robbie here,
and he's waiting, excited to get him on. So let's see.
Let me read this. So our guest, Robbie Rains, has
investigated strange encounters across America, from the deep woods of Missouri,
North Georgia to the remote backwoods backwoods, what is wrong
with me? Back roads and forgotten places where people claim
they were not alone. But what makes tonight especially chilling
is that Robbie's journey into the unknown didn't begin in
a book or a podcast. It began with a personal
encounter near his great grandparents property years ago. And I
believe he still lives near there and experiences still follows
him to this day. So tonight we'll talk about all
sorts of you know, kryptis an unexplained encounters. So let's
welcome Robbie of Robbie Wrings. Hello, Hey Robbie, how are
you doing? Good?
Speaker 7: Dog?
Speaker 10: Are you?
Speaker 8: I remember obviously meeting you. Wait, god, it was quite
probably three years ago DA's show and you were also hosting,
but we never had a chance to ever.
Speaker 6: Talk other than the show. Now we hadn't no, so anyhow.
Speaker 8: Okay, So first off, you're still working, aren't you? When
police work?
Speaker 13: Yep, I got a few more years before icking hang
it up.
Speaker 8: So okay, and why are you willing let me ask
you this, Why are you willing to even go public
and just tell your story?
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, for probably forty plus years I didn't talk
about it, and getting to me friends with d A
and Doc and Steve the guys up there, you know
it just I just got to a point where I
was like, you know what, Yeah, I'm not gonna be
scared to tell my story because and I guess something
that really kind of set me off about it is
not the department I'm at now, but another department. I
literally had one of the officers look at me and
say that he believed in aliens and believed in ghosts,
but bigot it was stupid to believe in Bigfoot. And
I'm like, how can you sit there and say that
you're open minded enough to believe in extraterrestrials or the supernatural,
and but you can't believe in Bigfoot? And I'm crazy
for believing in Bigfoot. But that kind of started me,
or set me up on the you know what I'm
gonna if somebody asked people, I'm not gonna openly at
that point anyway, I wasn't gonna openly go out and
talk about it, But if anybody talked about it, I
wasn't gonna. I don't know anything about that anymore. I
was just gonna say what you know. I guess that
comes with getting older too. You just get to the
point where you just you don't care. Let's say what
you're gonna say. And that's I mean, really, what.
Speaker 8: Are they gonna do? I mean, you could probably get
teased to be the worst.
Speaker 6: Straight exactly, and I that happened plenty enough times. So
that's which is why I stopped talking about it. Then
It's like I said, I just got to the point
where I was just like, you know, I'm not gonna
be able to change what anybody thinks. So I'm gonna
say what I'm gonna say, and if they like it,
if they understand it, if they agree with it, fine,
If they don't, fine too. It ain't no skin off
my nose. If they don't believe my story, I don't.
Speaker 8: If you had anybody from the police department ever approach
you and go, hey, I saw something one night too
that was really weird.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Actually, I have a guy he worked with worked
with us before one time before were left, went to
the county agency and he's now back with us. But
while he was still with that county agency, he called
me one day and he said that he had had
an encounter and he wasn't sure what it was. So
when he started describing it, I was like, okay, uh,
and I started asking him the question. I said, well,
when when you heard this groul, I said, did kind
of like reverberate through your He said, yeah, he said
I had both. He was on a little back road
where they were. It's on the backside of some property
that the front side was being developed with the backside.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 6: Brought it up next to Uh. If anybody's familiar with
with South Carolina and Climpson Areas next to ted Garrison Arena.
There's a lot of stuff stories from years and years
and years come out of that area. So he was
back there checking out. They'd cut just like an old
gravel road they put into just so they could get
to the backside of the property if they needed to
do any work on what they were doing. So basically
just a little access road to get to that backside
of the properties. But kids obviously liked to because it's
way off the beaten path. They would like to go
out there and park. So he was just out there
check that. So he was rolling down the road with
his lights off because it's not a controlled access road.
It's just something they cut in, so he shouldn't have
any vehicle traffic out there. So he's rolling really really slow,
really quiet, had the windows down, and he said, off
to his left, he heard something, and he stopped the car,
or stopped his troll car. It's sat there for a
little bit. And this guy's he former marine. He's hunted bear, hogs,
all that stuff all his life. He's not a guy
that's gonna shake real easy. But he said he heard
something growl. They stopped and kind of listened for a second,
you know, see if it did it again, he said.
In the second time he did it, he said, he
just felt it vibrate all through his chest. And I
was like, okay, so what you do? He said, Well,
I kept on going till I got saw that there
was no cars there. I turned around and I left.
I said, fair enough. So he started doing a little
bit of research in it. And I already had heard
this legend. But there's a legend called the Monkey of
mall Bridge because Malbridge Roads close to that area, So
that's kind of in that area. Uh, but I think
that's kind of a bigfoot top legend, you know, because
we've got a road here in Pickens County called Booger
Branch Road. Now find the world would it be named
Booger Branch Road?
Speaker 8: Exactly?
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's that's not far from that area.
Speaker 8: Well, what's interesting, my buddy had a sating on Furman Road. Hmmm,
Like why would you name that road for Man?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Seems odd coincident?
Speaker 6: Maybe, I don't know, maybe, but probably not.
Speaker 8: Yeah. I always get a kick out of it. Okay, see,
you've had a little just a tad bit of teasing.
I'm sure it wasn't good fun. But you know, don't
you think things have changed now? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I honestly, I and really here in the last I
would say probably two to three years, it's really gotten
an advent of shows like y'all's our show, Jessica's Show,
you know, shows that aren't afraid to get especially the
shows are like, don't.
Speaker 13: Prescribe the one particular it's this way. It's like, hey,
you believe this, you believe it's this whatever.
Speaker 6: The shows that you could open up and talk about
where anybody could come on no matter what they believe,
and you're not getting ridiculed for it. Oh you're in
this camp or you're in this camp. I think the
shows like that is why it's kind of become so
much more mainstream, because you know, before, if you didn't
believe they were a certain way, then you couldn't talk
about it or to these people or you know, if
you that's really been within the past two or three years,
I think that that's changed.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it just keeps getting better.
Speaker 10: I know.
Speaker 8: Obviously Monster Quest had a lot of resistance when it
first came on legitimate science, and then it was Finding
Bigfoot and Expedition Bigfoot, and I mean these are prime
time shows.
Speaker 6: Your show was a forerunner for all those shows. I
watched every episode of Your Monster West that because I
hadn't met Da or any of them at that time,
and that was at that time. That was the only
at that point, it was the only time I could,
you know, get any kind of on that stuff.
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, you're all you realize, you know, these are
a lot of good for a lot of witnesses that
felt more encouraged to kind of come forward, really realizing
I guess I'm not crazy because every week they could
listen to other witnesses watch the science behind it. So yeah, no,
it's come a long way. So any I do commend
you obviously if you're service, which is it's dangerous he has,
Robbie has a dangerous job, but also for the courage
to come forward.
Speaker 6: Well a lot of us got to do too. With
the chiefs that I've got. Now, he's one of those
that he doesn't. He like writing the books. He encourages that.
He's like anything anything you do to make yourself better,
I'm gonna support you as long as it's legal, he said,
and it's something that you can do to better yourself.
He said, I'm going to support it. So he's he's
amazing to work for and he knows that what I'm
on the shows and you know, yeah, he said, it
doesn't affect your job one way or the other, if
you believe in that or not.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Well, the thing is that it's really not about believe
you saw something, which we're going to get into now
and i'd love to maybe we can start now with that.
But first, Jeff, just to kind of be non linear, here,
can you pop up one of his books that he's written.
This is the the reason he is writing books because
he had a Sadane when he was young younger, and
it's inspired him to do all this rating. And that's
that's powerful. I mean that Sadie had an effect on this.
Speaker 6: It's the siding and reading one of d A's books
is really what and that's that's even an even funnier
story of how that happened.
Speaker 8: Well we'll get into that, all right, So what you
can just keep flipping through those, but you can go
ahead and tell us, so tell us about what you saw.
I have no idea what you even saw.
Speaker 6: Okay, so right where I'm sitting right now is maybe
three hundred yards from from where I had deciding early eighties.
Matter of fact, my daughter just got married yes day,
and my mom and my dad and my uncle and
I were actually talking about this, and we were, you know,
because my mom said something, all those books from that
one siding you have in your kid, And I said, well,
you know, that's what happens.
Speaker 13: But anyway, about three hundred yards from where.
Speaker 6: I'm sitting, I want to say it was probably eighty
three eighty four somewhere in now. I was eight to
nine years old. My little brother had just been born,
and I'm eight years older than him, so roughly in
that that time frame, let's see, I'll know, back back
then there was not a lot of uh or there
was no internet, obviously said it wasn't just sitting around
doing what we're doing right now. My grandparents, my great grandparents,
which was my grandmother's mother and father, was their house
and time. He had At one time he'd owned about
one hundred and eighty three I think acres around here,
and at that point it had dwindled, or not dwindled.
He'd sold because he was on up in age so
he got to where he was a farmer all his life.
He got to where he couldn't do the kind of
things he used to have to or that he used
to to be a farmer. So he had sold a
bunch of land. It was down to probably about maybe
thirty forty acres.
Speaker 8: But what's near the acreage.
Speaker 6: Right then, because he still had all that stuff in
that back the back area around that his house hat on,
it was nothing but wood. He had pastures with cows
and stuff like that, and there was a well we
caught it a swamp, but it wasn't not like a
like the Florida Everglade swamp like you showed earlier on
the video. But that's what we called it. But basically
just like a runoff area where the creek when it
overflowed from rain. He had a little farm pond and
it was fed by a little fresh water spring and
then that emptied off into a creek and then the
creek would run off in certain areas and we just
me and my cousins as kids, would just call it
the swamp. Like I said, it wasn't technically a swamp,
but it was just it was probably seventeen eighteen acres
worth of just dense woodland in that flat area that
would get you know, really swampy or muky or muddy,
just just a mess. I used to love to good
play around in that area. And my great grandmother kept me, well,
my great grandmother and the great grandfather kept me because
my grandparents were still working. My mom my stepdad still worked.
So when I during the summer or when school was out,
but when I got out of school, that's where I stayed,
and my great grandmother would always tell me, don't you
go too far in woods, or the boogers will get you.
Back then, I didn't know what booker meant. I didn't,
you know. I just thought it was a term for
a monster or something, just something she was telling me.
You know, I didn't find out untill probably four or
five years ago that that was just another term for bigfoot.
So but she would always say that don't you go
too far in woods, the boogers will get you. So
this night, my grandparents, my great grandparents, my and my
mom were all sitting out on the front porch and
my great grandpa's house talking. They had the old yellow
suffer lights, the gopher lights as we called him, Hey,
William and I it was had to be a Friday
night because I think I was in there watching the
Dukes of Hazard, because that was my show, and my dad,
my stepdad worked for the Sheriff's office and he was
on second shift then. And this was before cell phones
and pagers and all that kind of stuff. So as
the show ended, I got up reached over to turn
the TV off. It was an old farmhouse, so I
was sitting in the front room or excuse me, the
den then the front room was in was directly in
front of me, which led out of the front porch,
but directly off to my right was the kitchen, and
then a little mudroom or what we call the back porch.
Speaker 13: But it's just a little place where, you know, when
Paul come in out.
Speaker 6: Of the field whatever, he take his boots off, add
a little chair for him to sit there and take
his boots off, and uh so he wouldn't track mud
through Annie's house. But excuse me, just just a little
mudroom or back porch. Well back then, when they built houses,
especially if you didn't have the money for it, you
couldn't afford to bring a bulldozer or anything like that.
End to level the land and make sure the house
was sat perfectly flat. You just you started building and
wherever the house was high or low, you know, you'd
stack block to level everything out. Well, that side of
the house was pretty high off the ground. It was
probably maybe six seven block high. So they had one
of those old uh cement steps that you go buy
from Lows or whatever back then, and had a little
screen door, a little storm door, and I would say
the bottom of the floor was probably probably five feet
off the ground where the where the floorboards were. So
when I when I stood up and turned the TV off,
widened and I, this is something that I'll never know
the answer to, but why I decided to turn my
head to the right and look out through that The
only light on was in the room I was in,
And they obviously they had a light on that little
yellow lights side on the front porch, but only in
the house. The only light on was in there over
the overhead of the room that I was in. So
the kitchen was dark, and that little back porch aerry
was dark. But you know, you could still see through
into the kitchen and out to the back door, but
you couldn't see anything outside because it was dark outside
was I look, I see the storm door, and I
saw something outside the storm door. But you know, at
first I didn't know what I was looking at. So
I sat there and looked at it for a second,
and then I noticed it was moving. And then the
face came into uh came into focus. Which when I
say came into focus, I mean in my mind, because
you know, it was never out of focus. It was
just I wasn't focusing on it.
Speaker 10: And so.
Speaker 6: As the face came in the frame, I noticed, you know,
the around the eyes, the nose area, and the lips
and out there was no no hair. I couldn't tell
what color of the fur was. It was dark.
Speaker 13: I say it was a dark color, but that's all
I know. But all this there was no hair around.
Speaker 6: That the typical uh patty shaped head. And I hadn't
at this point, had not seen that video, but that
conical shaped head, but I noticed it was it was
just sitting there, swaying. And that's something that burned into
my mind, and I didn't realize it did, but it did.
And that's that'll come into play later when we talk
about the story with DA. So as I'm in my mind,
it felt like it was this took like fifteen twenty
minutes to process, but you know, in reality, it was
probably like five six seconds, you know, just like that,
because all of a sudden, everything just like the gears
lined up and everything spun. That paradigm shift happened, happened,
and I was like monster, That's the only only word
that came into my mind. So I turned around, high
tail that on the front porch, and I was, you know,
just inconsolable at that point. Is telling my mom, I said,
you gotta call dad, Call dad, Call dad. I gotta
get dad out here, Get that out here, get that.
She's like, Robbie Coln down what is going on? Your
dad's at work? What do you We'll get Uncle Brian
down here. Because my uncle was six five, about three
hundred something pounds, played football in my mind, and nobody
could beat my stepdad or my uncle.
Speaker 13: My stepdad was a cop, my uncle was a big guy.
I needed one of them down there.
Speaker 6: Like post taste, as Doc would say, I needed somebody
down there quick. Well, you know, like I said earlier,
no cell phones, no pagers, no no nothing like this.
So to get Dad and get him over there. He
was out out on the road working U second shift.
She had to call dispatch. Let dispatch know, I need
my husband to call. I'm down here at my great grandparents.
He's got the number my grandparents, excuse me, And so
you have to call dispatch. Dispatch has to radio him.
He has to drive somewhere where he can you know,
this nine o'clock at night back in the early eighties.
There's not a lot of places open twenty four to
seven back then, So he had to drive to where
he had access to a phone to be able to call.
So it was a process. So, you know, they get
my uncle down there first, and like I said, my
uncle six five. So he goes out and stands on
the back porch when he gets out. He just lived
right up the road, still does, and he stands on
I think he's probably on either the first step down
or maybe the second step down, and he's standing there
and he's he says, see, it's just a shadow you
used to see And I might no, Uncle, Brian, I said,
because I looked and I could see his head, you know,
the little center section of the door where you would
pinch those little things or raise the storm window up
and had the screen and the storm it blows, it
won't blow break the door. That little center bar was
like right here on his head. This thing's head was
up because it was kind of bent down, and the
top of the door still cut off about that much
of its head. So, like I said, he's six'. Five
so you do the. Extrapolation i'm saying this thing was
probably we're eleven to twelve feet eleven and a half
twelve feet somewhere Around.
Speaker 8: Robbie how far away do you think it? Was SO.
Speaker 6: I was right at the doorway to where the teeth
where they had THEIR, tv was right at the door
of the, kitchen old timey farm. Kitchen it's probably ten feet,
long let's say, exactly you, know just from accurate. MEASUREMENT i.
DON'T i couldn't tell you accurately how long it, was
but that room ten, feet then probably another three feet
of that three or four feet of that little. Mudroom
SO i was within twenty feet of, it let's just
put it that. WAY i, say that's that's a. Wow
that being able to go over to that, house go
over there and measure. IT i would say that's probably
a safe yest to say twenty feet.
Speaker 8: Was it's pretty. Close, Yeah.
Speaker 6: And i've been asked a, question will you think it
wanted to get you on My, no because if it
wanted to get in that, house there wasn't nothing stopping
it but one of them little flimsy storm. Doors, YEAH
i would if it wanted, ME i wouldn't be sitting
here talking right.
Speaker 10: Now probably just wanted to see what was your exact?
Speaker 6: AGE i was probably between eight and. NINE i was
probably eight on on the way to, nine depending on
what exact month it wasn't because that's that's the thing
THAT i can't. Remember we were even talking about. Yesterday
we can't remember exactly what month it. Was we know
my brother Was my brother was born In january of eighty,
two so it was, somewhere AND i would have turned
nine In november of that month or that year, Rather i'm,
Sorry so it was somewhere Between january And november of eighty.
Two SO i was probably pretty close to nine at the.
Speaker 8: Time all, Right so you can, Continue, Robbie so this resolve.
Speaker 13: Well so obviously none of the adults there believe. Me
my stepdad gets, there.
Speaker 6: He kind of gets me calm, down and he didn't believe.
Me either you. Know he was, like you, know he
got this book or this magazine he used to get
it all the time Called Police, beat and they had
an issue in there one, time AND i can't remember
what the term. Is it's not, paradolia but it was
it's like, paradolia but it's something like and basically the
cover shows it's like a shadow of a big creature
coming around the. Corner when the next picture on, it
on the inside of, it it's just garbage stacked up
outside of a door and you see the shadow in
the alley and it looks like something that's not That
it may be a form of, paradol you BUT i
don't think that was the actual word they. Used but
so he was, like that's what it. Was he was
trying to explain it away with, that AND i was, like,
no that's not what it. Was they went out the
next day looking for, footprints, supposedly but that was real
hard packed ground and it hadn't rained in a, while
so there was it was just like almost like concrete out, there,
Basically but they told me they didn't find. ANYTHING i
don't know if they did or they, didn't because sometime
within the next week or two after, that my, stepdad my,
uncle my, grandpa my great grandpa went out into that
swamp area looking for a bear that was supposedly scared the.
Speaker 8: Cows, so, okay so you had so you had cows
that were. Scared what other things happened around the homestead
that you can? Remember people? Mentioned were there other? Things
any house, bangs rock, throws any other?
Speaker 13: There that was the one and only thing THAT i
can think of.
Speaker 6: There but now WHEN i went to my real dad
every other, weekend he lived off of web of because
there's actually my old chief is in the chat and
he doesn't live my dad doesn't live far from where he,
lives and that that is a that's a it always
has been and it still is a pretty sparsely populated.
Area and there's some things THAT i heard WHEN i
was a kid that not knowing anything that don't have The.
INTERNET i about ninety nine point nine nine to nine
percent Sure i've heard calls and wood knocks up there
THAT i just didn't think anything, about because you, know
you just didn't know about it back, then BECAUSE i
remember hearing.
Speaker 13: Stuff you, know my two step sisters we got, playing
we'd hear something with all.
Speaker 6: Three, stop what is that? All must be a bird
or something or you, know a stick must have fell
out of the tree or. Something you, know you just
explained it. Away BUT i WOULD i would be one hundred,
percent almost one hundred percent sure that we've heard stuff
up there and just didn't know what we were here, in,
Right but that's them around here. Though that's the only
because that area was really The there was another guy
that was about my grandfather great grandfather's age that had
some land over there behind this, land and that was
about the two biggest areas that were still un touched
as far as people putting houses and stuff. In but
now since, then my stepdad actually looked at THE bfroo
and there was actually a sighting within a couple of
months of, mine well that same, year probably six miles
from here at the same.
Speaker 8: Time so.
Speaker 6: Interesting, yeah and that's one of the things that kind
of let him down the road to start believing.
Speaker 8: Me you.
Speaker 6: Know plus he being in law enforcement for forty years
and he ended up he was a. Detective he was
actually lieutenant over the juvenile, division and he's interviewed thousands
and thousands of, people and he said the one thing
that he. Notices he's, like you, know you might remember
a detail that you just didn't, remember he, said but
your story for forty plus years has never, changed he.
Said he's even told me here. Recently he's, like you,
Know i've watched some of the replays of shows that
you've told told the story, on and it's still the
exact same story you told when you, were you, know
eight or nine years. Old he said that that doesn't.
Happen and this is going from somebody who spent forty
years in law. Enforcement he, said that doesn't. Happen you
don't keep telling the exact same story the exact same,
way if it's a, lie if it's you, know just,
imagination he, said the story, itself other than remembering detail
here or, there like oh, yeah you, know now THAT
i really think about it and process, IT i do
remember that it was, swayed OR i do remember that
it turned its, head or you, know just a little
stuff like.
Speaker 13: That but the fundamentals of the story has never.
Speaker 8: Changed did you notice any eye any eye, glower eye,
movement you, know.
Speaker 6: And you know that that was one of the first
questions D a asked me when he AND i got
uh first started hanging. AROUND i don't know THAT i
did or, not because LIKE i, said there was the
only light that was on was inside the. House so
if it, did it didn't register to me because it's
literally once that face came into focus in my mind
and WHAT i was looking, AT i didn't stay around
and look at look at it. ANYMORE i, yeah because you,
know it's like you're looking at it and you don't,
know you don't know what you're looking, at and then
all of a, sudden everything just that you, know oh crap.
Speaker 8: Gone did you get? Bumps did you?
Speaker 13: Get the first TIME i told the story on D a, show.
Speaker 6: And It's i've said this like if you if you
Watch Fred roll tell his, story because his, story his
encounter happened when he was, had you can you can
really see how it Affects. Fred there's there's just there's
no way around. It and it still affects. Me BUT
i think BECAUSE i had it so young and have
had so many, years and plus WHAT i do for
a living and the, things you, KNOW i Think i've
just had time to process. It and in the WHEN
i had it at the the young, age my mind
was able to rebound and it was it's still a paradigm.
Speaker 13: Shift it still affected. Me it still affects me thinking about.
Speaker 8: It let's let's talk about the paramo paradigm. Shift because
you're inner. Nine did you have your head on a
swivel every time he went? Outside?
Speaker 6: YOU i was always in the, woods AND i still
went in the woods after. That but after, that it
wasn't just walk, around was hanging sticks around with. Whatever you,
know you, know it was, like, okay.
Speaker 8: You were aware of your.
Speaker 6: Surroundings, yes, exactly because it's, like you, know and we
talked to people all the, time and once it's, like
once that switch is, flipped you can't flip it. Back you.
Don't you don't go back to the, happy go lucky thinking.
THERE i, mean, yep. EXACTLY i talked about.
Speaker 13: That He williams actually the one that kind of helped
me come to that.
Speaker 6: CONCLUSION i was on his show and me and him
talked for a good while before and after the, show
and he helped me come to that conclusion that BECAUSE
i was so, young that's probably WHY i was able
to process it so much.
Speaker 8: Better did you did? You i'm doing? ANYTHING i, mean
did you go in the woods? Less did?
Speaker 6: YOU i don't THINK i went in the woods, less
a little.
Speaker 8: More afraid of the dark going outside that.
Speaker 6: Night BUT i think it's just more more like What
cross saying is just the and the head on the.
Swivels LIKE i went. Out MAYBE i didn't go out
quite as far AS i used. To maybe MAYBE i
was listening a little bit more to don't you go
so far in? Woods instead of thinking whatever it was, like,
uh got, YOU i ain't going?
Speaker 8: Far what what about being creeped out by the windows
or when you walked into that kitchen? Again that that.
Speaker 6: That was the difference difference BECAUSE i didn't want TO
i didn't want to sit in there by myself and WATCH.
Tv BUT i would sit out on reports for them
and listen to them talking there and WATCH. Tv that that.
Changed BUT i guess being outside during the, DAY i
didn't really think about it as. MUCH i, mean DID
i thought about, it BUT i. DIDN'T i didn't feel
because there, again you don't we didn't know as much
then as we do. NOW i GUESS i thought it
was something that only came out at. Night i'm thinking
that's the WHAT i was thinking in my head as
an eight nine year, old you, know that was at,
Night so so my patterns did change at night WHEN
i was down, THERE i WOULDN'T i wouldn't sit there
in the in the den by myself and WATCH tv
while they were out in the front. PORCH i was
always out there on the front.
Speaker 8: Porch, yeah, YEAH i mean that's actually pretty traumatic, though
for a kid to go through, actually and then and
then not have the support of your family. Either it's not.
Speaker 6: Well LIKE i, said my stepdad has come around to
believe in, me and my uncle is more long lines
OF i don't know if it was, bigfoot BUT i
do believe that you saw. Something. Yeah my mom's kind of, like,
WELL i think he saw something that upset, you BUT i.
DON'T i don't know what it. Is and both my
great grandparents and and my grandparents are gone, now SO
i don't know what they. Feel and by the TIME
i was able, to you, know as an, adult was
able to start putting all this stuff, together they were all.
Gone SO i really couldn't go to them and start
saying asking questions About, okay well when you said, this
what did you really? Mean or when you went down
what did you you? Know and that's one of my
biggest regrets of this as they were gone BEFORE i
really got into, this and AND i know some of
the stuff THAT i know now that, now, WELL i
WISH i could have asked them that question now THAT
i know what to, Ask but you, KNOW i repressed
it for so.
Speaker 8: Long it just so there's kind of a. Delay so
accidentally talking over, you that's, fine, Uh art, asked can
you tell us more about the face.
Speaker 10: It, well the.
Speaker 6: The way that The patterson gimblin Went patty turned the,
uh the circle of the way the eyes were sunk,
in and the large flat nose and the. Lips that's
exactly WHAT i AND i hadn't seen that video at the.
TIME i didn't see that video and that's it's and
ONCE i saw that video and Saw Boggy creek after,
that uh that that kind of changed the WAY i
thought a little bit BECAUSE i was, like, oh this
is kind of. Scary so uh but, yeah it was
that same those same features of the the eyes kind
of sunk, in the large flat.
Speaker 1: Nose.
Speaker 6: Ah just LIKE i, said this area right here and
around the nose there was no no fur that covered
it that it was all. Skin flash for everyone, say,
uh the conical shaped. HEAD i mean that it looked
almost identical to what the patty uh looked like walking
On Bluff. CREEK i, SAID i don't know what color
the fur. WAS i just know it was dark because
it was it was dark eyed. Sides it was a
dark COLOR i assumed HAVE i always assumed that it
was black because that's what it looked. Like but that's
just because it was.
Speaker 4: Dark, YEAH i was going to say the one THAT
i saw about one hundred and twenty feet away during the.
Daytime you, know the skin was a dark gray and
so and it seemed seemed description that you just gave.
Speaker 6: Exactly, So, yeah that would be would be the closest
THING i could say yet To, yes that was the.
Color it was a dark. Color whether it was, gray, black,
BROWN i don't. Know it was a darker. Color so
dark gray works for, Me, yeah BECAUSE i HONESTLY i
don't because even twenty feet away through basically two dark
rooms with nothing wanting you, know nineteen eighties of that
wasn't even. Florid, YEAH i guess it would have been
a floor us. Involved then you, know overhead light don't
get a whole lot of light. Details so where is.
Speaker 8: Your fear level at? Now are you still pretty trusting
of these? Things are?
Speaker 13: YOU i don't really HAVE i don't really have a
fear level on.
Speaker 6: This there's plenty of people in the chat will that
will tell you that when we go, OUT da always
the signs Of Robbie wrangler Because i'm apt to if
we see, Something i'm at to walk straight towards. It you,
Know we've Had we've had several times For DA's, Son
noah has had to like come up and literally grab
a hold of me and, Say, nope come, on let's get.
Speaker 8: Back so.
Speaker 6: AND i don't think it's Because i'm, obviously it's not
BECAUSE i got a death wish or anything like. THAT
i think it's Just i'm one of those people THAT
i just keep doing What i'm doing UNTIL i kind
of line THAT i just wrote my latest book out,
here it worked until it. Didn't i'm kind of you, know.
Speaker 8: Do you think there's any kind of cover? Up you
ask any hinted in the government.
Speaker 6: To Local, OBVIOUSLY i think if you say, government, YES
i do think. SO i think if things get bad
enough THAT i think government does step in and tell
police departments and county departments we got, this you need
to shut up in color. Basically.
Speaker 8: Yeah uh.
Speaker 6: And and people always, asked you, know what what have you.
Got i've Always i've worked predominantly in municipal, agencies so
there's not been a lot of, uh rural areas Where i've.
Worked my thirty years have been mostly in with city.
Departments NOW i have been TO uh prowler calls where
that you, know it was never, WELL i saw a guy,
HERE i saw something out here right. Now it's HAVE
i been to collegers SAID i saw a guy walking across. It,
yeah but there's been a lot of THEM i saw
something OR i heard something outside the, house not so you,
know who. Knows, yeah in thirty, Years i've never caught that.
Prowler AND i mean he's he's all over the.
Speaker 8: Place, Well i've always felt that the government cover ups
For bigfoot kind of started at the local. Level if
somebody in that department or whatever sees, anything generally it's
just swept under the. Rug they're probably they're surgeon and
talking about. It.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well and you, know day AND i kind of
talked about that joke about that all the. Time you,
know if if you saw something like that and put
it in a. Report you'd probably going to take a
whiz quiz next, morning see what you were? ON H, like,
Uh rodney crypt, awareness that's that's my old chief when
he was when he was a. Chief he's one THAT
i and the chief That i've got, now of the
all the chiefs That i've worked, for that's the only
two THAT i would trust to go to and, say,
hey this is really WHAT i. Saw we might not
put it in a report, still but it wouldn't be
because it was a cover up and be, like all,
right well we don't need for them to put you
out for psych. Evaluation BUT i would Trust rodney or
the chief THAT i work for now be the only
two That i've worked for THAT i would ever trust
to go say this is really WHAT i. Saw but
so to that, END i don't know if it's a
cover up more than it's an officer. CENT i don't
want to be labeled as crazy fir as the guy
who saw big.
Speaker 4: Unknown, YEAH i was going to, SAY i was going to,
say you, know you sharing that with, them you, know
it's like you're giving them a bowlo right beyond the lookout,
right you know this this happened to, me and you,
know and it was in this, area and you, know
keep your head on the.
Speaker 6: Swivel, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8: So is The. No, no is the door on that
home that you saw this thing is it's still there
and the door and everything.
Speaker 6: That, uh that house has been sold like oh maybe three.
Times and show the guy who's got it. Now he's
a big time. Contractor so he came in there and
he totally remodeled, everything gutted, it and, uh it sits
in the same orientation that it, did but where that door,
was he built a big two car garage and, so,
no it's not still. There and of course he came,
in he leveled everything out and it's not like like
it was before because on the far end of the
house was maybe like a one or two block. Run
decided that it was onst like five to five to
seven block. Run so it Was, however however, tall let's
say five cinderblocks are off the. Ground is how much
they needed to do to level that.
Speaker 8: Out, Yeah, well if people can imagine eleven to twelve
foot tall, creature that's.
Speaker 10: Huge it's hard to that's.
Speaker 6: Shoulders shoulders were outside the the sides of the, doorframe
because that's the only WAY i saw shoulders was when
it was. SWAYING i could, see like you, know the
side of the shoulder would dip into the door every
every time it would, want you, know sway this way
that one would dip. In that's the only WAY i
could see the.
Speaker 8: Shoulders do you think it was interested because of you
and that you were a juvenile and probably didn't seem?
THREATENING i kind.
Speaker 6: Of we were talking about that one night AND i,
said you know, what and this just hit me when
when somebody said that the same thing or that same
form of, QUESTION i, said you know, what like when
we go to the zoo and we look at animals in,
cage IS i think houses are their, Zoos so that's
just going in there just they're just looking at the
specimens inside The, no, no look at that. One THAT'S i,
mean that's there's so many you, know stories of, that
of things like that. HAPPENING i think it's just. Curiosity
they're just you, know they see. SOMETHING i just want
to see, what you, know just like we are we
walk up and look in the. Window what's that in?
There you?
Speaker 13: KNOW i think that's just their natural.
Speaker 8: Curiosity, yeah.
Speaker 10: Wondering why we live in a.
Speaker 8: Box, guy you, asked you, know what does the strange
as wildness encounter for a police call that you've ever
maybe taken or or have you ever heard? Of is
there one THAT i obviously we all know about The
Martin grove.
Speaker 6: Situation as far as ME i, HAVE i haven't had
anything that jumps out as that's scripted or. Supernatural. Uh,
NOW i do have a buddy that he was my
lieutenant at another agency THAT i worked, at and.
Speaker 8: This it WAS.
Speaker 6: I can't. REMEMBER i want to say it was an
old movie theater one time and they bought it and
turned it into a funeral. Home and he was coming.
In and the way we did at that, shift we
were stowing eight hour, shifts so the oncoming shift would
take calls for the off going, shifts so the off
going shift go. Right the report was he was coming,
in he hears the h the off one of the
off going guys get a call to that uh, mortuary
and he's, like, Well i'm. Close so he radiod and
told the guy he'd be. There in that, way he was,
like if there was any report that needed to be,
done he would take. It and that guy could go.
Home so they get there and they go in and
they had a, little uh little coffee shop built into
the to the front lobby, area but he did already
close and this little girl was the only one. There
she was getting doing the last bit of. Paperwork she
was like the front, desk receptions or. Whatever she was
trying to get all her stuff ready to close up
and go. Home and she says she looked up and
she saw a guy. Walking she never heard the, Door
she just saw herd a guy walking and he walked
right by her and she was, like, sir CAN i help?
You and he just kept on walking and walked into
the back and so she was freaked. Out so she
calls the. Police, well my buddy and the other guy
show up and she tells. Them they, said all, right
well what was he? Wearing and she describes it AND
i don't remember the exact clothing, description which doesn't really,
matter and you'll see why in a. Minute but they
got the description and they start searching the. Place they
search all, offices they search all the. Rooms nothing was,
locked so they got into. Everything they worked their way.
Down they get the one room left and the last
room they had left the search. WAS i guess it's
still it was called the most before they get the
bodies ready through the processing and all that, stuff and
every both's, like, well we got to search. It they
go in And i've heard him tell this story probably twenty,
times and it's never changed. Once he, said they walk
in and they see a guy laying on the the preparation,
table only body there getting ready to be.
Speaker 13: Prepped and he's wearing the exact same thing that that girl.
Speaker 6: Described oh.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 6: Said they looked at each other and, said uh, yeah let's.
Go so they went back out and little girl, said
did you find?
Speaker 8: Him he?
Speaker 6: Was they were, like, no he must he must have
got out of another, Door so let's go ahead and
shut this thing out and. Go but the funny thing,
is he said he looked down when he was listening
to her talk to his partner and tell the description.
Everything he looked, down and BECAUSE i, said it was
pouring down, rain he said he saw uh wet footprints
in the lobby leading back out or into the back
of the. Rooms they actually thought they had somebody in,
there and the only thing that was in there was
that was that body laying on the. Table when you
say wet.
Speaker 8: Footprints do you mean not not blood or anything.
Speaker 13: Like like you'd come in from outside outside the.
Speaker 6: Rain that's.
Speaker 8: Creepy Nice thanks for that. One do you uh ever
get any or pterodactyl.
Speaker 6: Settings i've heard of, them BUT i DON'T i don't
think now nothing around. HERE i think that's that's more
like something happens around The, midwest like, well there's a
lot more open. Space that's not saying that there's not
something around. Here BUT i know that there's been a
lot of sightings of, them But i've never personally had
one or heard of anybody around here that had. ONE
i Think jessica said that she might have talked to
somebody one time that said they might have saw one
somewhere Around North, georgia where she does a lot of her,
investigations BUT i can't remember for sure if that was
what she. SAID i know she's taken reports of dinosaur
people saying there was dinosaurs they've, Seen but.
Speaker 13: That's just me hearing her. Talk that's not not hearing
a story or. Anything have you or any of.
Speaker 8: The people that you know ever seen anything any decent ufo?
Speaker 6: Savings, well funny she mentioned that BECAUSE.
Speaker 8: I had.
Speaker 6: Ye last, YEAR i THINK i went Down Mary zabelle
invited me down to one of her uh one of her,
confidences wanted me to teach tracking. Class, ah SO i
THINK i think it was the first or the second
night we were. There that, is the second night we were.
There she's, like because the first NIGHT i WAS i
went with another. Group so this night she, said, OH
i want you to go with our. Group she, said
CAUSE i. WANT i want. To here's some of the
track and, stuff and that's the whole. Thing we were
down there looking for big. Foot that's all we were
we were looking. For so we got down in this.
Area this is In, missouri and it's a Bit it
was a big boat ramp and it had two two
ramps in a big parking area and then another bigger
parking area up above. It so it was like like
basically like two. Stages you had a big parking lot up,
here smaller parking lot with in the boat, ramps and
then there was a huge. Field and it was on
The Niangle, river which is a pretty big. River and
there's there's like a little uh these little camp areas
all over the. Place there's not a whole lot of houses,
well we're walking around down around the creek or around
the river area looking for, stuff and, Uh marianne's Husband
robert had, said, hey y'all wanna y'all wanna see a weird? Light, Right,
Sure so we walked compared to where he's at and
he's out standing in that the edge of that big
grass field and we ran espence on. This this thing
was probably about a mile away from, us but it's
just this bright white light and it's like you can
see up a hill on the horizon and then light a.
Up so it would drop down sometimes and be right
in front of the, trees and it was DOING i
mean at times it was like a heartbeat. Monitor it
was doing like, this but over, here and it would
go back. There then it would go up above the
tree line and do. All it was just a Ratic
there was no pattern to it or. Whatever we sat
out there for like two and a half hours watching. This.
Wow it didn't have any green lights or any red
lights on. It we had a guy that had a
thermal he hit. It there was no heat signature to.
Speaker 10: It it was.
Speaker 6: Weird that's probably in all my years Of bigfoot and
all that, stuff that's the weirdest thing That i've ever,
experienced BECAUSE i can't explain WHAT i was looking at
other than there was a white light in the. Sky
and the funny thing is there was a guy who
was really big into UFOs that wanted to have a
Big foot, experience but he had a lot of his
LITTLE ufo. Gadgets so he gets out, there he's dumping
his bag, out getting all his stuff, out and he
pulls out this big scanner AND i think it went
from like two hundred megger hurts alla up to nine.
Hundred And i'm sure somebody or one of y'all knows
What i'm talking. About i'm not A ufo, guy SO
i don't know. It but, basically it picks up on
all these frequencies between two hundred and nine, hundred and
it's supposed to rotate all through. Them it would go
from two hundred to four, hundred back to two, hundred
back to four. Hundred and it was just an a
a perpetual cycle between those, two Wasn't he, said it's
never done that.
Speaker 8: Before, wow how big do you think this? Thing this
craft was or? Whatever it?
Speaker 1: Was?
Speaker 8: Small?
Speaker 6: BIG i, mean it looked like it was that. Big
because it was so far.
Speaker 8: Away but, yeah.
Speaker 6: The as fast as it, WAS i, mean this thing
would move the length of a two football fields in
like a split. SECOND i mean it would be like
on this side and then it was over here just like. That,
yeah and it would go up and. Down LIKE i
said one, time it literally like a heartbeat monitor because
it was going in the. Line it was up and,
down up and, down and it.
Speaker 8: Was, oh.
Speaker 6: It's kind of.
Speaker 4: CRAZY i was gonna say WHEN i saw The phoenix
lights in nineteen eighty, seven that craft was not moving very,
fast but it was. Massive that's on.
Speaker 6: All This all we could see was that white. Light
we never we never saw a craft or. Anything it
was just it looked literally looked like but there Was
they went back over during the day and there were
no radio towers because at, first you, know you're always
trying to figure, Out, okay well maybe it's a telephone
or a light pole, swaying but obviously that's not not
that because it ain't gonna go from here to here
if it's a light. Pole but there was nothing over.
Speaker 13: There there was no radio, towers there was no houses
on that.
Speaker 6: Mountain there was. Nothing because you, Know i'm thinking, okay
well maybe it's a, flashlight maybe somebody's, playing but there's
no way a flashlight is going somebody with a. Flashlight
it wasn't a drone because you would have a heat
signature off with the, thermal and it wasn't a plane
because there was no red and green lights flashing on.
It it was just that one solid white. Light it's it.
Speaker 1: Was it was.
Speaker 8: Weird, yeah you wonder if, they're you, know being controlled by,
anything or whether they're like some kind of intelligence or
if they're, drones if they're you, know you just wonder
what it. Is why are they acting so? Crazy why
the ping pong ball?
Speaker 6: Movements what any that's a little like some of my
tet off a golf ball in a tile bathroom at. Times,
yeah it's just all over the.
Speaker 8: Place that's a that's a good. Description oh my. God
well that's been described that way by The. Navy you,
know they've seen them bouncing all, over like why are
they collecting? Data are they maybe they're grabbing, Bugs maybe
they're chasing some mosquitoes and capturing specimensm. MOSQUITOES i, mean
we don't know what they're.
Speaker 4: Doing, YEAH i was gonna say that's only In, Minnesota,
doug you, Know oh, Yeah.
Speaker 6: And any one of those are as good a guess
as Anything i've, got, because LIKE i, said we do
is just.
Speaker 8: Guess but you, know people never think about them ever collecting.
Anything AND i, think why wouldn't they collect biological? Samples
what if they're just kind of grabbing, bugs you, know
just to doing a little.
Speaker 13: Research LIKE i said that that makes as much sense as.
Speaker 6: ANYTHING i, mean who, KNOWS i, mean.
Speaker 8: What else is out at night besides bug was flying?
Around not. MUCH i doubt it was examining trees at that,
speed but maybe it. Was who. Knows it's all. Speculate
it's unverified, crap, Right?
Speaker 10: Jeff, yeah where is? That put that up for a.
Speaker 8: While, no you haven't put our unverified crap t. SHIRT
i get to check With alex because he's got to
mail a few of those. Out where is our unverified crap? Ago?
Jeff there it is, there it. Is that's untold Radio. Am,
yeah you're home for unverified. CRAP i like all the
other little uh subtle the coffee cup and. Things it's pretty.
Cool Exactly jeff did, That, Robbie, WELL i didn't do?
It is we want people to know. Too we. Don't you,
know we don't take ourselves That syria is because you,
know it's it's serious to a, witness and you, know
it's fun to, speculate like we're talking about maybe they're
maybe they're collecting. Bugs who they all. Knows it's all
just weird. Theories but if we don't talk about it,
exactly that's all we're never going to solve the.
Speaker 6: Mystery and that's that's the POINT i was making. Earlier you,
know it doesn't matter WHAT i think it was or
what anybody else thinks it, was because nobody knows exactly
what it was or what it was. Doing but you're
never gonna come to any kind of middle ground if
you don't sit here and talk about.
Speaker 8: It, yeah maybe it was a team learning to. Drive
it's just as likely as. ELSE i.
Speaker 6: THINK i think you figured it.
Speaker 8: Out, yeah, yeah that finally nailed. It that was.
Speaker 6: It it never got close enough to see the bumper,
sticker BUT i BET i bet that's what it.
Speaker 8: WAS i love. It that just sounds like a really great. One,
Okay so how often do you go out and Investigating?
Speaker 6: Robbie not as much As i'd like to because Obviously
i'm still working full. Time but, yeah hopefully that's you,
know the books from my retirement, plan SO i don't
have to worry about. Work WHEN i, STARTED i was,
LIKE i just want something that's gonna supplement when i'm
a loser and, retire BECAUSE i can retire in twenty.
Thirty so Hopefully i'll get to go out. More BUT
i try to get out at least a couple times a.
Speaker 8: Year try to go To missouri WITH.
Speaker 6: Da missouri is a, wild wild place to. Go i've
never been To missouri WITH da and not had something.
Speaker 4: Happen in fact That i'll be In missouri tomorrow so
for the week it's be And i'll be in the.
Speaker 6: Wood yeah it. IS i mean we found everything from
deer hides in the, tree fish heads in a. Tree
that's Where i've had WHAT i just told about the
light we've had. There we've been uh stalked and paced
by what we think as a dog man And Joe
bald before uh and Uh Moon valley with, ME da
And doc And, Noah DA's. Son we got almost got.
Surrounded doc actually got we didn't have that he didn't
have to set up to record at the, time but
he had his uh thermals on and he actually saw
two of them behind us or me and de are
walking up the road and he saw two of them
hiding behind a tree as right where me AND da were,
walking and he caught he heard. Something he turned his
head and he saw a third one running down, uh
kind of like it was trying to flank. Us and
that coin the phrase thermal don't lie because IF i
had a nickel foriry. TIME i Heard doc say that
within the next three hours of the time we were,
AWAKE i probably would.
Speaker 13: Not have to be working now because that was his,
parent he. Believed but he had never had an.
Speaker 6: Experience that was his first, experience and you, know not
many people get to have their first experience with thermal
AND i actually get to see the, silhouette the or
the outline. Rather that was an interesting.
Speaker 8: Night have you been to THE.
Speaker 13: Lbo, Yeah i've been there several. TIMES i had a
really really.
Speaker 6: UH i went to The woodwalker's thing this last last.
Speaker 8: MONTH i think, There, well did you Meet? Adam?
Speaker 6: MAYBE i met a lot of. It there was there
was a lot of people.
Speaker 8: There there was a lot of people. There it's getting
to be quite a quite an.
Speaker 6: Event, YEAH i was sitting with the With cam most
of the time when because me And cam were talking
about some some different Things Cam, Buckner so me And
dot were sitting With cam most of the time when
we were down.
Speaker 13: There so maybe maybe i've met at. Him LIKE i,
said there's a lot of people.
Speaker 6: That come up and, said, hey we watch the show
and didn't say the names and walked. Off me and Dogor.
Chuck did you get a? Name, no they didn't, say, okay.
Speaker 8: You know coonbo. Oh.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah the first TIME i Met coombo was two
years before. That WHEN i was down. There we were setting.
Up we were trying to do a Uh johnny AND
i were going to remote end live because it was
we were still doing shows On saturday then and everything
was working and we're getting, everything and, UH i see
this guy walk up to me And Pyro medic was
walking with, him and UH i Knew pyro and he, said, Hey,
ROBBIE i wanted to do. Something and he, goes, Hey
Combo baker And i'm, like and D a was live on,
man he had never met him. Either AND i hear
And i'm talking to him and you here on the
computer that, komboo that's. Koomboo and So cumbo heard. It
he stuck his head on the cameras, says, hey, Yeah I'm.
Cuombo so that's HOW i met. Him that's a funny, story.
Speaker 8: Dressing so what are your thoughts on dog? Men it's
such a strange. Ministry it's fueled constantly by you, know.
Speaker 6: Sading, okay my, thing my thing on dog. Man you,
know if you look back as early as written history,
started sign of cephalae i were mentioned dog headed, People
Saint christopher dalk, Headed Saint, Anubis, whipplewett stuff like that's
been around a lot longer than that term dog. Man
so AND i correct me If i'm, Wrong, Doug BUT i, think,
uh you might have even had this in in the
show on The American Werewoll show that that came from
a RADIO dj to kind of kind of go along
with the beast bray. Road is that where that and
that where that term came.
Speaker 8: From i'm not sure you don't really.
Speaker 6: KNOW i think that that's where that a RADIO dj
coined that phrase sometime in the.
Speaker 13: Very late eighties early nineties to talk about The michigan Dog.
Speaker 6: Man it was you, know BECAUSE i think back then
they were trying to figure out if that was the
same creature that The beast Of Bray road. Was so
that term in itself has only been around for a
short period of. Time but you, know you go back
and look in seventeenth seventeen, hundreds The french trappers working
along the rivers Of missouri And louisiana and places like,
that they were seeing things like this.
Speaker 10: Where wolf.
Speaker 6: Springs you, know that story goes way back further than.
That but kind of like, bigfoot you, know everybody kind
of puts that, term and but that term wasn't coined
until that news reporter made it for the for the
logging camp that was getting messed, with you, know bigfoot destroys,
equipment and that. Stuck SO i think sometimes people just
there's there's popular terms like calling every soft drink of
coke or every uh tissue of. KLEENEX i think those
terms just kind of get used a little too much
and then they kind of take on the life of their.
Own so as far as dog men, THERE i think
it's a DIFFERENT i think it's just a different. Type
like bigfoot is a different word for sasquatch Yeedi oma, Uh, Gugway,
GENOSKUA i mean every first.
Speaker 8: Nation so do you think that dog men reports are? Bigfoot?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, No i'm just SAYING i THINK i
think everybody focuses on terminology of what they call, it
and everybody's, like, okay this is a dog. Man well
that's just that's just a term of somebody put on. It,
now WHETHER i think they're actually shape shifting were wolves or,
NOT i don't. Know BUT i think there is some
type of creature out, there, because LIKE i, said you'd
go back to the earliest writings known in, History sin
and Suff, lie things like, that whep Wet. Anubis there
have been things like. This they didn't call them dog
man back. Then you, know they called them were wolves
in early you, know medieval times and things like. That
but h wolf man things like you, know it's just
it's a term that is just it's the popular term
right now for some of the things that we've seen for.
Centuries do you want to see a dog?
Speaker 13: MAN i Think jessica AND i already, have AND i
THINK i encountered ONE lbl.
Speaker 6: Just AND i went to uh two years in a.
ROW i went to The georgia bigfoot conference with. Her first,
YEAR i went with. Her we went to a place
where she does a lot of research in And i'm
pretty sure that we had a couple of big foot around.
Us we were standing out there. Talking we've been out
there for twenty or thirty. Minutes we were up on
this little rise and the insects where it was like
being in the, concert and we were, literally you, know
two feet away from each, other, yelling so we could
hear each other over the over the, insects so they
weren't they weren't bothered with. Us and all of a,
sudden it's like somebody unplugged a jukebox And i'm in
a beer. Joint it just went dead quiet like. That
we both AND i looked at her AND i, said
AND i don't, KNOW i can't remember IF i saw
something over OR i just got had a, feeling but
there was something behind. Her, well just AS i to
tell her there's something behind, you she's looking behind. Me she, goes,
no there's something behind. You so we sat there for
a few more minutes and a few more. Seconds, Whatever,
jessica you cracked me on time from from off on.
It but she turns and looks down towards where her cars.
At she, GOES i think we need to get back
down to the. CAR i THINK i think they're trying
to not. In we never felt threatened to say, that
but we kind of felt like they were trying to
surround us at that, point so we just kind of
eased back down to her. Car and as we get
down to the, CAR i turned around and looked to
watch her keep walking down where he was that and
up the top of the hill right where we were.
Standing you, know you could see the tree line silhouetted
above or in the. Sky and AS i look, UP
i see a shadow going, across AND i, said turn,
around turn, around turn, Around and she turned, around looked
and she saw it just as it went into the.
Trees so it was on two, legs and it was
pretty big from what we could see from down to
the bottom of that little hill walk, across and it
was right about where we were just, that so it
was probably the one that she said was behind me
was going over.
Speaker 13: There so we we got in the, Truck we're gotting
her four runner got going back down the.
Speaker 6: Mountain we kept both kind of felt like we were
still being watched but as soon as we got back
down on the, road it was. Shot everything went back to.
Normal so we were, like that was that was? Cool
that was that was really. Cool so the next YEAR
i go, back, well she's had her she had her
Son ben with. Her we go back to the exact same,
SPOT i, mean and this is literally a year to the.
Day we go back up there no, insects but it
just felt. Different SO i sat there for a little.
Bit you, know you get out of get out in the,
dark you get you sit there for a little, bit
let your eyes kind of, adjust AND i was seeing stuff.
Moving But i'm, like, okay this is just this is
just me my eyes adjusting from being in the car
looking at the you, know the dashlights and things like.
That BUT i was they just kept on, moving kept on.
Moving And i'm looking ahead of us and her sons
and uh in between, us and Then jessica's behind me
or behind, him And we're all looking in different. Directions
i'm looking this, way he's looking that, Way jessica's looking
over this, way and we're all three seeing stuff. Moving
we just hadn't told each other that. Yet So jessica, says,
uh you wanna you want to go move on up
closer to the. TOP i, said now we need to
move on back down towards the. CAR i just. HAD
i just had a bad. FEELING i just, like this
is just not there's something different about. This And jessica
did not argue BECAUSE i think she had the exact same.
Feeling she's, like, yep you're, right let's. Go so we turn.
Around we kept her son in between, us and we
were walking back down TO uh to her, vehicle and,
SOMETHING i just something just said turn. Around and not
LIKE i heard something tell me, to BUT i just
got that FEELING i needed to turn. Around SO i
turned back. Around and have y'all ever seen the Movie,
underworld the first?
Speaker 4: One, yeah it's been a.
Speaker 6: While remember the scene Where selene's in the hallway the
apartment and she's looking and all the the werewolves are
jumping up on the walls and coming at. Her WHEN
i turned, around a, kid you, Not that's WHAT i
saw was three or four shadows moving like that now
up on up on the, wall but just, alternating moving towards.
Us so back of my, shoulder and, YES i HAD
i was, healed and SO i had it. OUT i
looked on my. SHOULDER i, said go to the, car
get him, in get, it get it. Started AND i
walked the rest of the way backwards in. There just
as long AS i was looking that, way they didn't.
Move we backed all OR i backed all the way
down And jessica got, in got the car crank AND
i got in the. CAR i got, in shut the,
door and off we. Went so same exact, place two
very very very different.
Speaker 8: Encounters that's, Crazy, yeah, yeah you just you. WONDER i,
mean there's so many People i've talked to you that have,
had you, know strange, experiences which brings us to our next.
Point you think these whether it's dog, man do you
think they're flesh and? Blood do you Think bigfoot's flesh and?
Blood where do you stand on this? Mystery and if
you don't, know that's?
Speaker 6: Fine and what what WHAT i ANYTHING i say is
just my. Opinion so we say it all the.
Speaker 8: Time AND i know you, well if you were a
man you had to put you, know a buck on
flesh and blood or buck on uh? Paranormal what would
you put your buck?
Speaker 6: On I'm I'm i've always been flesh and blood camp
because everything That i've, ever with the exception of the
of the light in the sky THAT i can't, explain
but every other encounter That i've had with something that
would has not acted anything other than an. Animal. Uh you,
Know I've i've debated people plenty of times about the
portals and things like. That i'm, like it's just adaptive,
camouflage and, well how do you what do you? Mean
and you, know showing the pictures of the the stick,
budgets like the owl you showed pictures, of that's adaptive.
CAMOUFLAGE i, Mean i've always been.
Speaker 8: Of the.
Speaker 6: Of the school thought that if you've got a, question
look in nature what we've already discovered and is there
adaptive camouflage in nature that we've already? Studied absolutely and
all kinds of things that animals have adaptive CAN.
Speaker 8: I just, said we had that tiny frog moth? Bird yeah.
Speaker 6: Exactly so that that's that's WHERE i. Stand UNTIL i
see something that THAT i can't explain away like, that
then then you, know maybe my viewpoint will. Change but
IF i IF i was a betting man like you,
Said I'm i'm flesh and. Blood that's just What i've always.
SEEN i haven't ever seen anything that showed me anything
other than an, animal very smart, animal but that but you,
know there are very INTELLIGENT i, mean look at how
different packs of orcas have learned to hunt differently depending
on where they're at in the. World, yeah and that's
the same type of. Creature but you, know In New
zealand they're beaching themselves to grab seals and off the.
Shoreline but In antarctica they've learned to that use the
water when they go swimming under the ice floe and
use the water to flush it. Off then you got
the two sharks In South africa that were hunting great,
whites specifically port and. Starboard you know that they killed
what forty or fifty sharks in like a MONTH i
think that were washing up on the shore that just
had almost like a surgical, incision we had their livers. Removed,
yeah but that's you, know that's the same type of.
Creature but they're all hunting different. Ways so why is
it so hard to believe that these things have NOT i,
mean they're born with a natural gilly. Suit they know
the woods better than we're ever going. To they don't
want to be. Found and there's eighty eight million acres
of national forest AND i don't even count state the.
Speaker 8: National, forest but that forest is a lot harder to
get into than people really.
Speaker 6: Realize, right, yeah, so and that that's that's one of
the first THINGS i, Asked, well, what, okay how many
countries could you hide? In eighty eight million acres? COUNTRIES a?
Lot you, know, so and we talked about this just
the other. DAY da said, this if you could and
this is not, feasible but say you could explore one
square mile a, day it would take you one hundred
and twenty nine years to Explore, alaska, Right and who
could feasibly explore one square mile a? Day because that's a,
Lot and that's that's constant. Exactly so if if that's
if that's one state in granted that's our biggest, state but,
still but that's one, state and it will take you
one hundred nine and twenty nine years to completely explore that.
State that tells you how big this area. Is so to,
me that's just there's plenty of room for these things to.
Speaker 8: Hide, well you, know the, funniest the funniest question, again
and then you Can Sorry, CARL i jumped, out but
your next the funniest QUESTION i always get is people
say to, me, well if they're real, welcome nobody ever sees.
Them AND i, go, WELL i think there's probably about
one hundred to two hundred sightings a, day you, know
and probably all the, time you, know five percent are
reported to. Anybody and and so it's fuel that's why
this mystery. Is that's why we're still talking about, it
because it's fueled every day by new sightings or. Experiences
so they're seeing and they're not you, KNOW i really
don't think they give a big. Damn if they're, seeing
they just don't want, contact you, know, generally you, KNOW i,
mean they're often, seen but it's, brief and you, know
they they're out of there. Once once you see, them they're.
Speaker 10: Gone, well AND i follow up What robbie said, too
is WE i think all of us have been in
a like if you're in a small airplane over bush.
Areas there's areas in the kind of The United states
you could hide a dinosaur and you would never find.
IT i, mean there's places not too far from here
where the bush is just. Endless you could hide anything.
Speaker 8: There.
Speaker 6: Yeah oh, yeah, well you know my point to, that
to follow up and agree with you on that, is
if you get out of the regular regulated airspace or
out of the shipping. Lanes why do you think there's
so many planes and ships that are never found again
because we don't explore that kind of, stuff, RIGHT i,
mean because they're so there's planes that go down all
the time in you, know uncharted areas that are never,
found even with these sophisticated black boxes that they, got you,
know that they can't ever find. Again but, so why
is it so hard to believe that a very intelligent
animal that doesn't, want like you, said doesn't want, contact
doesn't want to be it's. Easy it's easy for.
Speaker 10: THEM i, agree it's. Easy, NO i.
Speaker 4: Agree AND i was going to add on to your
eighty eight million acre or you, know square miles the
uh you, know and that doesn't include any of the
urban areas that have woods and forests and contiguous. Areas
and that's kind of almost been my specialty at least
in finding them a.
Speaker 6: Little, yeah what if you if you added, that if
you just look at national, parks it's eighty eight million
acres if you add In bureau Of Land, management state,
parks public use, ways. Reservations you start adding in all
that stuff, too that can't be uh, Done nothing could
be done with it can't be what's the, word it
can't be. Developed, yeah it gets up over a billion
acres in this, country this country, alone over a billion
acres where things can just. Disappear and you, KNOW i
had a interesting discussion with the deer hunter one, time
and he was, Like i've been deer hunting all my
life AND i ain't never Seen, Okay i'm a deer hunter.
Too how many places have you? HUNTED i got about
four or five, places, HUNT i, said four or five.
PLACES i, said so, you out of all those four
or five, places because you haven't seen anything any of
those four or five, places you you were qualified to
say that they don't exist in all the rest of
the woods of the. World AND i said so by
your by your.
Speaker 13: Reasoning and this is this Is DA's uh, line BUT
i used it on this.
Speaker 6: GUY i, said so by your. Reason and IF i go,
DOWN i take a teaspoon to the, ocean AND i
dip it up AND i look in that, TEASPOON i,
said no sharks in. THERE i guess there's no such
thing as sharks because there's no sharks and in my
little area THAT i just looked at right, HERE i,
said is that a fair?
Speaker 13: Assessment, well, no but that's that's. DIFFERENT i, Said, no
that's the same.
Speaker 6: Thing you're basing what you're saying on that little small
area that you or those five small areas that you've.
Speaker 13: Hunted have you gone out walked every acre of The Mark? Twain,
NO i said.
Speaker 6: That how can? YOU i said To Mark, twain is
goes almost across the Entire United states Of. America there's
a million acres in The Jersey pine. BARNS i didn't
know that UNTIL i was researching for one of my. Shops,
oh it's, nuts it.
Speaker 8: Is i've driven through there quite a few.
Speaker 6: TIMES i, mean that's that's just like you, said it's
nuts to think because most people think Of New. Jersey
do you think of The?
Speaker 13: Turnpike you, think you, know you think of, city that's
what you.
Speaker 6: Think you don't think that there's a million acres of
untouched wilderness and then, yeah right.
Speaker 8: On your way on your way to One atlantic.
Speaker 4: City yet, right, well and the same thing out On
Long island WHERE i ended up, finding you, know, uh
the big folk out, there you, know and it's like
and you know people that Say Long, Island, no it's
that's you, know completely paved, over and it's, like, nope,
nope there's and the pine barrens even out on the
eastern end Of Long island as.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah and so well do you, Think, Robbie, okay
we'll just kind of switch a little. Bit but so
you're you're like, me you think these things use, corridors, creeks,
travelways come, near they come, within you, know yards of gas.
Stations and that's one REASON i think people don't want
to report them because they saw them in a kind
of an urban, area semi urban, area and they're, like,
well no one's gonna believe, us because there's a quick
trip right down the, road. Right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well i'll go one further because we've we've kind
of been working on a working theory and we started
working this through probably about a year and a half
maybe two years. Ago if you overlap The missing fool
And one, map The bigfoot sightings, maps and cave, maps
all three of those maps really match almost. Exactly so
what would be an easy way for these things to
travel and not be? SEEN a lot there's a lot
of caves in this. Country they recently said that they
think that The Mammoth cave Can go could possibly stretch
From maine To New. Mexico, well you, KNOW usga can't
go Into mexico to so if it goes all, theoretically
if it goes all the way up To New, mexico
it probably goes on Into mexico. Too so there's no
telling how far down those caves. Go and we've only
explored two percent of that cave. SYSTEM i, Mean da
tells the story that when he was a, kid they
put this radioactive mark or die In Bennett springs and
was looking to see where it came out. At six
months later it came out In antarctic or, Yeah antarctica
Or alaska ONE i can't. Remember but six months later
it came out in a very cold place way away From. Missouri.
Wow so there's. Places and that kind of leans in
with our other theory because people are, like, well you, know,
well how do they how would they, navigate how would
they do? This how would they do? That so do
do we think that every tree knot that we hear
is bigfoot walking through the woods with A louisville? Slugger
smacking on a tree Because i've walked in the woods
plenty of times And i've never been able to pick
up a stick that didn't cintegrate because it's been laying.
Speaker 13: THERE i, mean if it's if it's. Fresh, yeah.
Speaker 6: We kind of theorized that these tree knocks some you,
know some of them are obviously probably tree knock you wood?
On would we think a lot of it is tongue.
Popping and the reason we think that is echo location
because and What gota started thinking this Is.
Speaker 8: I'm just, sure well.
Speaker 6: You probably BECAUSE i think it was on the same
channel your show was on with The discovery did uh
did a show with this guy who was uh he
was BORN i think he was born legally. Blind he
couldn't see anything he was. Born he taught himself to
echo locate and they might put the The so if
he can. Teae if this guy can teach himself to do,
that why is it these things can't do? That so
you think of something that massive with that big of chest,
cavity Because i've heard D a do a tongue pop.
That we were at The Bigfoot convention In, gatlinburg And
i'm sure you've been to that it's like there's like
thousands of people in. There it's it's in The Gatlenburg convention, centers.
Speaker 13: So that's a huge. Place there were thousands of people
in there walking around.
Speaker 6: Talking it was like just ungodly loud wherever there talking
To eli from small town.
Speaker 13: Monsters and this is when we were really first starting
to work on this.
Speaker 6: Theory and dicated a tongue pop and it was like
you could hear a pin drop after you did, it
because everybody just stopped what they were, doing turn, around
looked at, us, like.
Speaker 8: Really what was? That, well the REASON i believe they're
probably doing it with their mouth Because i've heard them
answer a wood knock way too. Quick there's no way
they would have time to pick up a perfect, stick
find the perfect, tree you know WHAT i, mean because
it's gotta be the braid stick.
Speaker 6: And the ray tree, exactly that's, what and then.
Speaker 8: Answer you within three.
Speaker 6: Seconds come, on LIKE i, said he unlet's big puts
walking around with A louisville slugger on his.
Speaker 8: Arm, No i'm with, YOU i verifiably agree with.
Speaker 4: You i've heard tree slaps, too where they've actually just
slapped the. Tree but, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: So anyway that that's that's my theory on is well
not just mine, Obviously.
Speaker 8: Uh thing it's, Interesting uh as good as any other,
theory you know. What AND i always, figured, well it's
just to communicate with each other kind of.
Speaker 6: AND i THINK i think, PROBABLY i think it probably is.
TWOFOLD i think it's a communication, thing especially if they're,
out but if they're in the, CAVE i think it's
it can be used as echo. Location and there again
it's a verifiable thing that we've already studied in. Nature you,
know bats have echo, Location, dolphins whales.
Speaker 8: It, yeah a lot of animals that. Do there's a
lot of night night jars. Do they're they're a feathered.
Bird they. Use, uh swallows use echo. Location there's a
ton of birds that, do and probably a bunch of
animals we don't even know about yet they use. It,
yeah you know what ABOUT i don't know if you're
up on any of, this But cayo'd asked whether you'd
never heard this strange kind of vibrating hum, or like
almost like insect wing, sound either loud or, soft in
any of your.
Speaker 6: Research are you just talking about? Infrasound, No, well we don't.
Speaker 8: Know there's a lot of. Reports we're getting a lot
of recordings and now of kind of a, overdriven almost
tumming bird wing sounds that these creatures seemingly. Make it's,
unverified but yet we do have some verification because we
even Found David ella's found an old report from like
the nineteen thirty four of a woman's down at the
river washing. Clothes she hears this strange hum looks up
the river bank to expect to see a, hummingbird and
sees a bigfoot where they're. Young and so we're uncovering
more and more writings about this. Hum more and more
people are sending us FOR i think we've got like
eighty five recordings. Now SO i just Said i'd throw.
THAT i know it was kind of catching, card but.
Speaker 6: No THAT'S i love learning new. Stuff, well if you if.
Speaker 8: You ever hear it in the, future you're gonna wanna
gonna wanna call Me. Robbie, yep it's a it's a
really strange. Sound it sounds like hummingbird wings but not you,
know it's like an over Dry. Yeah, carl Even, Carl,
okay So carl had never heard it whenever, whatever but
he was playing old tapes from what the nineties? Vhs,
yeah okayo, yeah, Old and all of a sudden we're
listening to those old tapes and there's the hum.
Speaker 10: HERE i HAVE i, HAVE i actually have it handy.
Here this is pretty wild about a second, Here.
Speaker 8: Yeah purring another good word for. It mm. Hmmm almost
sounds like one of those. Reds, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Well the.
Speaker 8: GALLAY i can verify. It i've recorded hours of it
up At Snell. Grove it ain't it ain't dis you,
reduce it ain't, bugs it ain't any of that. Crap
it's something weird that they put off and they may
do it to comfort. Themselves they may maybe you, know
something they do when they see. People it may be a,
communication or they may be doing echo location with it
that might fall right into your. Echolocation, robbie this is
From Snell. Grove, okay Here's Snell.
Speaker 10: Grove this is a five time.
Speaker 8: SLOOP i, mean it's, uncanny how exactly are once recorded
In texas back in two thousand and, four and mine
was recorded in two thousand and you, know twenty five
up In. Ontario and we've, got you, know LIKE i,
said we've collected about eighty five. Recordings, now so that's.
Wild isn't that a cool? Sound? Though? Yeah but, uh the.
Speaker 6: GUY i was telling you about that did all THE
ufo stuff uh In. Missouri he had AND i don't
know what skyle was. That it's Just australian, thing but
it's that little piece of wood all the, strings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah That well where this all came.
Speaker 8: From robbie was yolt and was just playing recordings of something.
Eating him and his mom were getting all sorts of
screams and singing and all sorts of trained. Sounds but
one of the recordings he thought he would play for
us was this bigfoot basically eating or what we think
is a, bigfoot and there's this hum that same, sound
AND i, went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa that sounded
like it's coming from whatever's. Eating we need to think
about this here for a. Second and so we didn't
blow it. Off we played it for. People all of a,
sudden all these recordings and witnesses and all this stuff
started just flooding us from even people who were freaked
out by, it where you, KNOW i can go on
and on people that were hearing it from far, away
and it was like bothering their, ears making their ears.
Inch things like that could be tied to the inverse sound. Phenom,
yeah we don't. Know we don't even.
Speaker 14: Know it is unverified crap at this, point butified, Verified
but it's very tantalizing to keep.
Speaker 8: Researching, yeah.
Speaker 6: That's WHAT i was about to.
Speaker 13: Say that's that's what what you, know you run across
something that you've never.
Speaker 6: HEARD i listen to.
Speaker 7: This.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah David ellis is working very hard at collecting
and analyzing and, this and he's going to have a
section on it in his. Book so we're already to
get the word out because we've barely even got the
word out. Yet can you imagine we get the word
out to, everybody you, know in the whole, country that's
when the real magic starts.
Speaker 13: Happening oh, yeah because people are, like oh wait a,
Minute i've heard.
Speaker 6: That, YEAH i just didn't know what it.
Speaker 8: Was, yeah, yeah that's. Exactly most people just blow it
off because they, think, oh it's a. Hummingbird, Okay and
you know, what we don't it's un, verified we don't,
know but it seems to be in kind of conjunction
with big foot. Activities so certainly was At snell And
i've never seen a homybird up, there not that far.
NORTH i don't think that would.
Speaker 6: Survive that's a place THAT i would love to go
do some. Investigating. Well that was always one of my
favorite episodes that y'all.
Speaker 8: DID i was looking for someone wants to give their
life to go to snow with. Me, man you make
that drink every TIME i, do AND i alway wondering
by coming.
Speaker 6: Home just you don't, know LIKE i, said you just
need to sign A Robbie. Wrangler, Yeah i'm at to
go walk straight towards.
Speaker 8: Whatever, yeah you're rare THAN i am Because i'm. Going
i'm Just i'm just. Frozen every time something. Happens it's
really because you there's nowhere to, hide there's nowhere to.
Go you can't get in your. Car you, know you're
dropped off by a, plane a, floatplane and you're stuck.
There if you get something pissed off at you pardon My,
french you're stuck. There you, know you're you're you're right
in the middle of a real horror movie at that,
Point so you don't know, anyhow who else has got questions?
HERE i wanted to wrap up a little.
Speaker 4: Early Carl, Jeff, oh, absolutely. ABSOLUTELY I i, know uh you,
know LIKE i, SAID i do a lot of research In,
missouri and, uh you, KNOW i had a sighting Near West,
alton which is, uh you, know on The mississippi kind
of near the WHAT i like calling The Tri river.
Junction and, uh but the most interesting, thing AND i
Always i've thought of. THIS i was, like you, KNOW
i could have reported my big foot sighting to the you,
Know department Of Natural resources In, missouri but they THINK
i was, daft, Right but but you, know in that
same area WHERE i had my, sighting one of the,
Times i'm driving down that road AND i had a
wolverine across the road in front of, me WHICH i
thought IF i, called IF i called and told Them,
bigfoot they'd probably believe me more than me telling them
that there's a wolverine crossing the road. There, Wow i've
never seen one of those in the. Wild it stunned.
ME i knew exactly what it. Was it, was it was,
muscular it was right in my head. LIGHTS i, mean
IF i had IF i was going three miles an hour,
FASTER i would have hit. IT i, mean that's how
close it, was and it turned and looked right at.
Speaker 6: ME i, mean and it would have probably flipped your
car and then and then you would have come over
and ripped you out of the. Car and that's.
Speaker 4: Right but, NO I i that's. A that's a great
area of research, area especially down in Southern illinois and.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 4: Area So i'll Be i'll be out there next week
in the, woods.
Speaker 10: So i'll have. Fun good.
Speaker 6: Luck that's it's. A it's. A it's a good state to.
Speaker 1: To.
Speaker 6: Investigate it's never disappointed me Anytime i've been.
Speaker 8: There good, Deal, jeff if you get any anybody in
the audience and then we can we can wrap up early. Tonight,
no it looks like we were supposed to have severe
weather tonight and it didn't. Happen, no did. It, yeah
it's a Beautiful i'll take. It you. Know we were hearing,
like oh my, god Tonight's sunday, night al tornadoes everything
for this area that we're in And.
Speaker 4: Brimstone yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 8: Brimstone and it's like a REALLY i think poor event
gets all you, know she gets a little, worried And i'm,
like because we had our home destroyed by a storm one,
time and it's scary trying to get at your home fixed,
nowadays not like it used to be when people actually
Were it's like you have your home wreck, now and
you're gonna have your home wreck for a long. Time mm. Hmm,
yeah it's things have. Changed, well we really want to
thank You robbie for.
Speaker 6: Coming on and thanks for having me.
Speaker 8: Such a wealth of. Stories, now let's talk about the
podcast that you're. ON i THINK i have it. Here
you're on what's the name of the.
Speaker 6: Podcast, well last time you were, on we were The Ax.
Marketable we've changed to the Night Mare Hunters. Podcast oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 8: That's what it. Was AND i noticed the logo kind
of looks a little bit like a sheriff's badge a little,
bit a little, bit you. KNOW i just THOUGHT i
wondered that had something to do with, you but maybe.
Speaker 13: Not oh, well that's uh actually uh the card and
the two.
Speaker 6: Revolvers that's actually the uh that comes from The dark
from The Dark frontier, series which actually uh all three
of us are now writing in that. Series uh DA's
got the Original Dark frontier. Series Uh doc's gonna take
the his called the Uh Dark Frontiers Vampire. Chronicles my
THAT'S i actually sent The it's Not Civil war diaries
BECAUSE i didn't pay attention WHEN i said. It it's
actually war. Journals uh That Luka luca did MY i
don't know Where Civil war dis came, from but it's
Actually Dark frontiers war. Journals and so my area of
The Dark frontier series is gonna be From World War
one all the way Up Old war so And doc's
gonna take everything from The Civil war all the way
up To World war, one and D a is gonna
have the modern era for The Dark frontier.
Speaker 8: Series so all your are all your books fiction and
based on experience and things that you've.
Speaker 6: Had, yeah there there works of, fiction but there's a
lot of stuff that like really all the conversation between
the Characters jed And doc And, declan that's you've probably.
Heard if you read, them you've probably be watched the.
Show you'll you'll get the.
Speaker 8: Correlation, yeah there's a difference between fiction. Writers coming from
a guy who's in the know and he knows the
truth of what's going, on and then he rates of you,
know it's gonna be a lot more.
Speaker 6: Enjoyable, yeah and that's what we try to.
Speaker 13: DO i, mean if one of us says something that's, funny.
Speaker 6: You'll that's going in a, book.
Speaker 8: Gotcha so and you, know we and we.
Speaker 10: Try to do.
Speaker 6: That we try to because obviously those characters are based
on the three of us, Anyway so we do try
to use a lot of the stuff that we you,
know we hack on each other all the, time so
that that a lot of that makes it into the.
Books and you, know it's it's kind of self service to,
us but there's a lot of people that really enjoy. That, so,
yeah all all the books that d a myself and
dot right are all connected in one. Way that's every
one of those covers THAT i sent, You, Jeff they're
all connected to the greater D A.
Speaker 10: Verse, Yeah i'm gonna check them. Out that's really. Cool
Oh i'm pretty avid, reader so that's, yeah that's good.
STUFF i.
Speaker 8: HAVE i hear lightning on. SIDE i just TURNED i
just turned. ONE i. Swear let's see. Here there was
SOMETHING i wanted to. Count. Dang oh, WELL i forget
WHAT i was GONNA i was gonna mention something somebody
does to. Question but where can they buy your? Books?
Speaker 6: Uh they can find all of our books mine included
On amazon dot.
Speaker 8: Com. Uh all.
Speaker 6: All my, books with the exception of, two are on
The Natural VOICE. Ai But i've got something working with
two of the books now for and that may turn into,
more but we're trying to work on.
Speaker 8: That but, uh you're talking about for audio. Books, yeah but.
Speaker 6: They're all kindle and.
Speaker 13: Paperback i've got hardcover for THE i went back and
redid book one and did an author's cut for the
anniversary release of. It Since i've been writing for a,
year went back and kind of tightened up because WHEN i.
Speaker 6: First first started the first two, books D a AND,
i people were wanting us to do, them wanting us
Because doc hadn't even started writing at that.
Speaker 13: Point but people were, like y'all need to connect the.
Books you need to connect the. Books but we had
no clue how to do. It AND da, said, well
if we're gonna do, it we need to do it.
Speaker 8: Right and.
Speaker 13: So we were one of the times THAT i was
sitting down or was It, Missouri he AND i were
sit down And i'm.
Speaker 6: Like wait a, MINUTE i got an, idea AND i
kind of rolled it past him and he's, like, OH
i like. That so then the next week we had
doc on. Uh we got him on a video call
where all three of us been. Talking we sat down
for about two and a half maybe three hours and
hammered everything out and we figured out how to how
to tie them all. In so from the middle of
book three, on it's WHERE i really start tied everything
in with his stuff and he started Dropping easter.
Speaker 13: Eggs so with the first, ONE i wanted to go
back and kind of tighten it.
Speaker 6: Up a little bit and fix some are BECAUSE i
DIDN'T i still don't know What i'm, doing BUT i
really didn't know WHAT i was doing in book. One
SO i went back and just did a just did
an author's, cut added some things and tightened some things,
up changed some things that didn't need to be. There
so it's a and that's a hardcover edition on that.
Speaker 8: One very. Cool we have to wrap this. Up we
got lightning bolts hitting outside of my. Window, yeah he'd
having ear piece and think of the. Power so just
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Speaker 10: Yeah that that actually referred really, well back to something
we talked about earlier about just being open. Minded when
you're open, minded you, know none of us have our
identity wrapped up in a single piece of evidence or
a single. Theory so if something new comes, out it's
not going to destroy my. World it's just new, evidence
change our, minds we, learn we move. Forward i'm not,
Yeah i'm not tied to any theory or any kind
of piece of.
Speaker 4: EVIDENCE i always tell People i'm, like you, know even
if you have not had that experience and someone else
has and you're listening to, them you, know that's a data,
point and that's a point you put, aside and then guess,
what someday you're going to have that experience and you're
going to, Go, wow that messes exactly with you, know
other sightings or reports and, yeah and then your mind's, expanded, right.
Speaker 10: Stick to the. Facts nothing but the. Facts that's that's
What steamberg. Says, dug your MIC's. Off there we, go,
Sir we are.
Speaker 8: Dork, thanks Thanks carl for joining, Us thank You robbie for,
everything and with, that we will be back next. Week please.
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