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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't

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Be Serious Podcasts. Shirley fans, we have a wonderful episode

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for you today. We are comparing two massive, iconic hard

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rock heavy metal bands, Metallica and Guns n' Roses. We

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just finished up with Metallica's Black album, so if you

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have not yet heard that, go back and listen to

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that episode. And today we're starting our journey into Use

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Your Illusion one by Guns n' Roses. This is gonna

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be awesome.

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Speaker 2: I remember when these two albums, these two usual illusion albums,

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came out. The anticipation for these two albums was huge.

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Speaker 1: Before we get going, I just want to point something out.

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We have been talking to each other now for couple

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of years, face to face, and one of the reasons

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that I can do that is because you don't have

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nose hair. Have you been talking to people and like

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you can't even concentrate on what they're saying because of

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their nose hair. Absolutely, they like tuck to you. It dangles, yes,

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it wiggles. It's a total distraction. Absolutely, And so let

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me let me say, if you are one of those guys,

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Speaker 2: It is an amazing product. It trims your nose hair.

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It's not embarrassing. You just stick it up there. It

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takes care of it.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna look at people and bother them, right,

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And I'm one of those guys who's self conscious about

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my nose hair. So somebody that you're gonna see me

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and I'm gonna be like yanking them out and wincing

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in pain, don't do that. There is a special thing

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that they make and they've also just released in addition

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to the weed Whacker, they have just released something called

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the Lawnmower. If you have other areas of your body

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that you're looking to trim up. And I'd like to

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point out that a giraffe is easier to see in

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the planes than it is in the forest. Oh that's wonderful, Yes,

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yes it is.

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Speaker 2: So it's very good around sensitive areas, if you know

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what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. They have also an entire shavekit called the Ultra

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Smooth package package. You get the idea. So who doesn't

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want their package ultra smooth? Right, right? So don't forget

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to go to landscapes dot com and use the promo

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code fan sided twenty to get twenty percent off your

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order and free shipping. Whack it perfect. So midnight, like

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you know, the record companies or the record stores are

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not allowed to release the album before the set date

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for the album, so record stores across the country opened

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at midnight in order to be able to accommodate all

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of the people who are lining up for this album. Now,

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at the point that the album comes out, Slash is

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completely burned out from having recorded the album. I mean

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they finished it up in August, they and they released

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it in September. And by the way, let's point that

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out right now. Okay, it's thirty years old this week.

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It is these these albums are thirty years old this week.

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So thirty years ago, Slash is about to go to

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Africa to vacation and you get a little rest from

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the massive amount of work that he's just done. But

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he thinks, okay, before I go, I'm gonna go see

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what the album sales are doing, right, you know, So

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he shows up at midnight at Tower Records on Sunset

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Strip where they used to play yeah, where they got

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their start and he watches through a two way mirror

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as all of the sales are going on. And just

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ten years before that store detectives had been watching him

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through the two way mirror because he was stealing stuff

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from the same record store that his record was about

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to blow out of the water.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible, it's incredible. So, like you said, these two

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albums were both released at midnight September seventeenth, ninety one,

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the date that we were releasing. This is September fourteenth

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of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so almost thirty years on the dot.

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Speaker 2: And then of course next week we'll talk through User

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Illusion two, right, and then compare all three.

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Speaker 1: Yes, compare all three albums. Use Your Illusion one and

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two both released at the exact same time. This was

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not a sequel. This was we were releasing two albums

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at the same time. Had never been done before. No

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one had ever done this. People would release double albums,

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but you had to buy you had to buy it

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all in one package. Right, Yeah, But people could go

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and choose. They could say I want Use Your Illusion one,

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or I want Use Your Illusion to or I want both.

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Speaker 2: Right, And that was a nice little concession by the

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band right there.

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Speaker 1: Well, kind of a concession. As it ended up, it

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was a huge sales bump. Well that's true, to a

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huge sales bump.

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Speaker 2: Now use your Illusion two was a betterseller out of

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the gate. Yeah, due to a song that we've already

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talked about. You could be Mine from the Terminator two sounds.

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Speaker 1: Throw back to earlier this summer when we were covering

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Terminator one versus Terminator two and Arnold Schwarzenegger pulled a

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gun out of the roses because the gun was in

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the roses.

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Speaker 2: There's a great story that goes along with Arnold Swarzenegger

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and the guys and how he got them to participate

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in Terminator. We'll talk about that next week. All right,

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Let's say, before we get into too much of this

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d I want to go through a basic timeline of

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what has happened since the release of Appetite for Destruction, okay,

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which was released.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and then you got four years until usual Illusion

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one and two come out, right, okay, And I just

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want to talk through this is by no means exhausted, right,

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they were into all kinds of craziness, but let's just

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talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Let's just hit some of the highlight Okay. So, and

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just for before that, if you have not yet heard

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our episode on Appetite for Destruction, go back and listen

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to that one. We've got the history of the band.

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We've got track by track on that fantastic album. But yeah,

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we're kind of picking up where we left off. You

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They leave the country and nobody's really heard of them

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eighty seven not really in the big interest in that album,

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they become big in the rest of the world, and

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then as they're gone touring the rest of the world,

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that's when they hit big in the US and they

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come back to the US and suddenly everybody knows who

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they are, Like, they can't go shopping at the grocery

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store because their pictures are on the cover of Rolling

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Stone magazine and people are like, hey, that's you, and

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they know who they are in the US. Yeah, it's

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pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: We did talk a little bit about this during the

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apatitp for Destruction that David Geffen had to call MTV

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personally and say, please play this video right, Welcome to

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the Jungle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my MTV's concession was, Okay, we'll play it at

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four o'clock in the morning. Morning, just it'll be over,

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it'll be done. And then everybody started calling in because

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they wanted to see the video again, and literally the

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phone lines caught on fire because of all the times.

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Speaker 2: So, Appetite for Destruction is released in nineteen eighty seven,

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but Welcome to the Jungle didn't really catch fire until

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early nineteen eighty eight. Yep, that's when I sort of

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became aware of what was going on with them.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Then the summer of eighty eight, Sweet Child of Mine

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blows the roof off, they re release Welcome to the Jungle.

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Then after that, Paradise City takes off, and Appetit for

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Destruction is one of the biggest selling albums of all time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so let's pick up right there, greatest greatest

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selling debut album if I remember right, I think that's right, Yeah, okay,

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go ahead, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So November of nineteen eighty seven, Axel assaults several security

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guards in Atlanta, Right, okay, we're just hitting the highlights,

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just the highlights, right, Okay. In nineteen eighty eight, Guns

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and Roses was in a movie.

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Speaker 1: You know this? Yeah, yeah, the the badly lip sync

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version of Welcome to the Jungle by the one and

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only mister Jim Terry before he had become big.

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Speaker 2: If you have never seen Clint Eastwood's The Deadpool, it's

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a dirty Harry movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jim Carrey is a rock star who dies of a

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heroin overdose.

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Speaker 1: Supposedly, I mean he's murdered, yeah, by Liam Neeson and

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a ponytail.

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Speaker 2: Right, Liam Neeson. You got Qui gon Jin killing Lloyd Christmas.

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It's pretty amazing. And Guns n' Roses they are in

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the movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the band at the funeral.

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Speaker 2: They are Slash actually shoots a harpoon in the movie.

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Speaker 1: It's very weird. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So that happens in nineteen eighty eight. In August of

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nineteen eighty eight, a riot breaks out during a Duns

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and Roses show. Really shocker, right, yeah, okay. In November

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of nineteen eighty eight, GNR Lies is released.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: We talked about how before Aptipe for Destruction, they had

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this EP called Live Like an f and Suicide.

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Speaker 1: Right. Okay, So you took.

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Speaker 2: That ep matched up with four songs that they did

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in one day acoustically, Yeah, acoustic set one day in

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the studio one day. That album peaked at number two.

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That one, by the way, just so we can cover that.

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music together. You know, so much of recorded music you

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hear is one artist. You know, the guitarist comes in

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and puts down his bit, the drummer comes down and

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puts it down his bit, and then they put it

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all together through the production with lies. It was them

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in a room one day.

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Speaker 1: It is them in a room. That's awesome. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so from that album you might be familiar with

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the song Patients.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so big hit for them. We covered that one,

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yes and uh, and we would go right into m

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I Used to Love Kill said you was in a

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church and it's completely inappropriate. Also from that album we

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have Used to Love Her Yep.

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Speaker 2: It's a sarcastic song about a guy who kills his

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girlfriend because she's driving in crazy Yep.

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Speaker 1: I can still hear her complain. It's a great one.

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Speaker 2: It's you have the acoustic remake of You're Crazy from

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Appetit for Destruction, and then you have the most controversial

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song in their entire career a song called one in

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a Million, You Want a Million?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you want? You want a million?

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Speaker 3: Babes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, star.

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Speaker 2: Man yeah, okay, now that will come into play here

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in just a second. We talk about their opening for

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the Rolling Stones.

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Speaker 1: But there's some.

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Speaker 2: Anti immigrant type of things in there. There's some racist remarks.

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Splash is black. Yeah, he's half black, half black. Interesting, Okay,

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we'll talk about that here in a second. So Lies

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is released in November of eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Also in August of nineteen eighty eight, two fans are

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crushed to death during the Monsters of Rock show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we touched on that a little bit on our

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Appetite episode that Gnar was initially kind of blamed for it,

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for inciting the crowd, but actually what had happened was

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that Actual was yelling at people to stop pushing forward.

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He was trying to help, and they didn't even know

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that those guys had died until after they were told,

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after the show was over, and they're, you know, going

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to the restaurant.

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Speaker 2: Together, right right, Okay. In September of eighty nine, we

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moved forward a year at the emptyv Music Awards back

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when they were a big deal, right, the band that

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they used to open for, Motley Crue presented them with

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an award, and then Vince Neil promptly punches out is

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he stradling backstage?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: And Izzy apparently had made some derogatory remarks about Vince's

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wife and Vince didn't like it, and Izzy basically said

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so what and so indicting. Axel gets involved, and then

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Vince makes this thing like, let's go Axilly anytime you're

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ready me and you get in the ring.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Also that same night, Don Henley played drums on their

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live version of.

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Speaker 1: Patients because Steven Athler was in rehab. Because Steven Adler

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was in rehab.

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Speaker 2: Keep that in mind as we move forward.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So in October of eighty nine, the Rolling Stones, Mick

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Jagger reaches out and says, I want you guys to

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open for the Rolling Stones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: They also had Contacted Living Color, you know from Culture Personality, Right, Well,

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they're in all black band and they opened first and

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from the stage they called out Guns N' Roses for

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their racist remarks in the song One in a Million. Axel,

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who was not at the show at that time. The

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management instructed one of the drivers, go freaking find Axel

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and don't take no for an answer. You've got to

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punch him out to get him in the car, go

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punch him out.

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Speaker 1: So he went over.

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Speaker 2: They snatch and grab Axel drag him up there. As

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he's taken the stage, he realizes that Living Color has

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called him out. That makes him really mad. So when

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he gets up on stage, he proceeds to say, if

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certain members of the band don't quit dancing with mister Brownstone,

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this is the last show that you're ever going to

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see from Guns N' Roses.

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Speaker 1: And that was the beginning of the decline, if you will,

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Slash knows this was in reference to him that made

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him hate Axel. Duff was humiliated and embarrassed. Plus you

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had all this controversy going on with Living Color and

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one in a Million and all this stuff. So that's

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just one night in the Night of Guns and Roses.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Continuing on in February of ninety, Dizzy rejoins the band. Right,

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he's the piano player for the usual illusion at.

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Speaker 1: Wet Wait a minute, I'm sorry, did you say guns

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N' Roses has a piano player. A piano player, what

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the heck is up with that? He was about to

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be evicted from his apartment.

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Speaker 2: Called his friend Axels said, I'm about to be evicted

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from my apartment. Next is like, hey, no problem, just

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come join the band.

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Speaker 1: You can play piano. If you guys don't have a pianist,

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we do now.

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Speaker 2: In July of ninety Steven Adler is fired.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's their original drummer. So somewhere around this time,

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Niven is using the fact that they haven't produced an

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album in a long time as a negotiation piece for

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Gefferent Records to renegotiate their contract so that they can

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make more money. They're already spending tons of money. He

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wants them to make more money and basically uses the

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fact that they have two albums worth of music to say, hey,

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we'll give you this when you renegotiate the contract, but

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until you do, we're not going to give it to you.

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So Alan Niven is the one who gets them a

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renegotiated contract, is going to make them a ton more money,

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and sets in place this thing for two albums. Well,

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as you mentioned, Steven Adler is completely drug riddled at

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this time, like the way that it was going for

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Slash and Duff. They're like, Steven, you're too messed up.

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And it's me and Slash like we're the guys that

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everybody else says it's too much, and we're telling you

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you got to pull it back at least for the shows. Man,

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you got to do something. And so they had this

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contract with him where you've got to go to rehab

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and you're you know, one more strike and you're out.

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And he was out of the band, back in the band,

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and then finally they're like, he's still completely addicted to drugs,

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hiding them. We've just got to get rid of them.

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And so all that Steven Adler knows is that he

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gets another stack of papers in front of him, yet

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another contract to sign, like he has already. And by

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this time they've hired Doug Goldstein and gotten rid of

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Alan Niven, and Doug Goldstein says, this contract says, every

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time you get high, you have to pay his two

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thousand dollars. Well that's not what the contract said. What

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it said was you're out of the band and all

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you get is two thousand dollars. Ooh. And so once

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Stephen Adler was less under the influence of drugs and

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realized what had happened. He filed a lawsuit against Guns

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n' Roses. Do you think, Yeah? I think so that

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gets resolved a little bit further down the line, and

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he ends up getting paid about two and a half

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million dollars plus fifteen percent of royalties for all of

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the songs that he was a part of. So a

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little bit better of an exit deal, a little better

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golden umbrella, but still just I think that you would

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go all right, original member of the band, you get

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two thousand dollars, see you later.

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Speaker 2: The royalties for Appetite Destruction alone are worth how much?

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Speaker 1: I mean? You're right, best selling debut album of all time.

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There's no telling.

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Speaker 2: Steven Adler has had over twenty eight overdoses.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: He's had several heart attacks, and he has one stroke

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that left him with a permanent speech impediment and he

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can't even talk write anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bad kids, just say no, don't do drugs, okay.

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Speaker 2: In January of ninety one is when the usual Illusion

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tour starts. This is nine months ahead of the release

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of the album.

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Speaker 1: Right, A lot of these songs people would hear on

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the tour before they ever got on the album, and

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then once the album come out, they never played it again.

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It's crazy. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: On July second of nineteen ninety one, Yeah, there is

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an infamous concert that Guns Roses played in Saint Louis

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where there was a guy who is taking photos of Axel. Yep,

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he didn't want him to, right, that was the agreement.

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Security was to prevent photos or film, and he kept

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trying to tell the security guys to take the camera

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away from this guy. Actual believes that he was friends

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with the security guys, and in the middle of the

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concert he just says.

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Speaker 1: Who thanks to the lamb ass security, I'm going home.

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Well before that, he jumps into the crowd and attacks.

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Oh that's right, that's right. So like g and are

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have their own security obviously, and then you've got the

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security for whatever the venue is. And Axel said, our

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security guys had told these guys over and over to

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not let these people get so drunk. You're supposed to

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have a minimum, but people are chunking these beer bottles

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at us and I'm just you know, it's been pushed

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and pushed. And then we tell them, Hey, no cameras,

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all right, we can't have any cameras here, and lo

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and behold, here's a guy right here on the front

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road taking my picture over and over again. And I

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just said, that's enough. Nobody's going to listen to what

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we're telling you. Has to happen. I'll take care of

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it myself. And that's how he jumps off the stage,

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and that's how he gets arrested a couple of years later,

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once they get back from tour of you know, the

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rest of the world.

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Speaker 2: You know, we looked before we started recording. In the

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liner notes in usual lusion one, there's a special dedication

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thanks under the thanks dear Saint Louis. We love you

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guns residens.

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Speaker 1: That is not what they said. I believe it says

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f ugh Saint Louis few Saint Louis right in the

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middle of all of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys are awesome at given the few to people.

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The list is long and distinguished.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some great there's some great thank yous on there.

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You got Alice Cooper, you got.

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Speaker 2: Sebastian Bach, Rachel Bowlin, Shennanhun Yep, yeah, Okay. September seventeenth,

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of ninety one, Usual Vision one and.

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Speaker 1: Two is released.

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Speaker 2: Okay, November seventh of ninety one, is He Stradling quits

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the band.

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Speaker 1: So by that time Adler was gone, Aler was gone.

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They had brought in the former drummer for the Cult,

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Matt Sorem. Yep. And with Matt Sorum, I mean Matt

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is obviously a gifted drummer, but he's not the same drummer.

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It's different and is he said whenever Steven wasn't there,

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it didn't have that swing in and out kind of

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motion that made appetite great, and he just felt like

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it was all wrong. And he also had gotten sober

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and nobody else had. And so he loses the drummer

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who thinks is a key piece, replaced by a guy

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he doesn't care for, who then immediately starts doing drugs

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with Duff and Slash and he's newly sober and he's like,

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is this really you know what my life is going

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to be like? And he says I'm done. At the

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height of their fame, the man who is arguably the

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originator of the band says, guys, I'm out.

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Speaker 2: He's like the soul of band. He wrote a lot

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of the songs. Yeah, he was missing from the You

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Could Be Mind video. He didn't like to do videos,

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he didn't like to tour. He just kind of liked

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to write songs.

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Speaker 1: You know. Right, well, forget it, I'm out all right.

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Speaker 2: Briefly, in October of ninety two, you have the Freddie

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Mercury Benefit concert. If he listened closely, you can actually

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hear Axel tell protesters to shove it.

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Speaker 1: They were urged not to have Guns N' Roses play again.

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One in a million. The homophobic things that came out.

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Speaker 2: There a little tough to defend. That why you're honoring Freddie.

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Speaker 1: Mercury, right, But Brian May, the guitarist for Queen, is

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like the fact that they're here is enough and they

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still play.

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Speaker 2: They did just a couple more dates I want to hit.

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While we're on the subject. August eighth of nineteen ninety two,

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a day that will live in infamy. This is where

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we kind of join these two together.

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Speaker 1: These iconic rock bands with mammoth albums, decide we're going

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to tour together.

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Speaker 2: Metallica and Guns and Roses on the same ticket.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of money, bro gosh, that's a lot

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of money because I'm going to buy that ticket right

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of course.

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Speaker 2: If they're coming anywhere near me, I'm going to see

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this concert.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely tragically. It's more likely that you're going to show

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up than the Axle is.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because Metallica knew that Guns and Roses notoriously

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late to show up for shows. Yeah, and so rather

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than fight over who was the closer, they just said,

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we'll open every concert right, We'll get in, we'll get out.

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Speaker 1: You guys deal with the drama after that. And because

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they were such big bands, there was a complete set

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change that had to occur in between the sets, and

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so Metallica would get done and they would start tearing

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down Metallica stuff, they would start putting up Guns and

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Roses stuff. And we're talking about a couple of hours

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worth at a time where all of these hot and

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bothered headbanger fans are just sitting there, standing there, waiting there,

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sweating their balls off and just waiting for waiting and

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are to start. Yeah, that's not a good recipe. Brop.

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Speaker 2: So on August the eighth of ninety two, Yeah, Metallica

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is playing their set. James Heffeld's on stage YEP. During

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the song Fade to Black, which we talked a little

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bit about last week. Yep, he gets a little lost,

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not sure where he is.

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Speaker 1: Some new pyrotechnics in the show that they're doing, and

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he walks into one that wasn't there in the previous shows.

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He's disoriented and that thing sets his flesh on fire.

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Speaker 2: Second and third degree burns his the hand where he's

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actually strumming the guitar gets it the worst yep, and

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very very serious condition. He's rushed to the hospital. Lars

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has to come on stage and say there was.

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Speaker 4: An incident with the pyrotechnics. Unfortunately, James is on his

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way to the hospital right now and we're worth sorry, Paul,

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we can't continue the concert for you guys tonight, right.

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Speaker 2: And at that moment, that's when Guns n' Roses could

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have come in save the day, rock their balls off right,

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come in helped out well. They got about forty five

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minutes in and Axel decides that his voice doesn't feel

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good and it's gone home.

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Speaker 1: Because they were under the stress and trying to change

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things over quickly, and people probably weren't prepared because it

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was an hour sooner. They didn't have the monitors set

474
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:20,240
properly right, So the band couldn't hear themselves. Monitors are key,

475
00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:22,920
couldn't hear themselves, and so they got frustrated. But at

476
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,200
that point, yeah, if if you're that guy, you just

477
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,480
got to go, Okay, guys, fix the problem and we're

478
00:25:28,519 --> 00:25:31,640
going to start singing again. Not I'm tired this, I

479
00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:34,119
quit right. Sorry for all of our guns and roses

480
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,920
fans who want to defend this, but I don't know

481
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,599
how you do. No, no, no, no, there's just no defense.

482
00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:43,759
Jason News said said that shortly after they went back

483
00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:45,680
to backstage and like, what's going on? What do you

484
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,599
get is doing? And Axel said, you know, my voice

485
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,519
is gone. I can't sing. While he's smoking a cigarette

486
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:53,559
and drinking out of champagne glass.

487
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: I'd have another cigarette, but I can't sing. So what

488
00:25:56,519 --> 00:25:58,799
happened after that was the fans got a little upset.

489
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,839
Speaker 1: Yeah they did. This is in Montreal, by the way, right.

490
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,079
They turned over cars, they set the place on fire,

491
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,920
multiple fires. Thirteen different people and officers injured in the

492
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:15,279
onslaught that occurred. It was mass hysteria, dogs and cats

493
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,160
living together.

494
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 2: But more importantly than that, Metallica lost all respect for

495
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,279
guns Roses at that moment. Yeah, Slash said he couldn't

496
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:23,480
look any of those guys in the eye.

497
00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: He didn't like them that much to begin with. That

498
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,880
killed it. It was over. So after that, there's there's

499
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,640
a part in the documentary that we talked about last time,

500
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,880
the year and a half in the Life of Metallica

501
00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:43,079
where James Hetfield reads Axel Rose's tour writer where he's

502
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,759
got all of his special requests and is kind of

503
00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:48,000
making fun of him so with a way that Axel

504
00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:51,400
responded was to do it in front of the crowd

505
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,640
at a later concert, called Hetfield a racist for his

506
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,559
decision to pull body Count from the tour and called

507
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,240
him a stupid little and then insult with the rest

508
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:03,400
of the band as well well.

509
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: So coming over for Thanksgiving, so much for making amends

510
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:09,599
right there?

511
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

512
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: July seventeenth and ninety three, the usual Allusion tour finally ends.

513
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:20,039
Speaker 1: Yep, sorry, I just heard this. Gilby Clark said that

514
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,359
on the final show of the User Illusion tour, Rose goes, hey,

515
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:28,880
enjoy your last show. Apparently he didn't just mean of

516
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,359
the tour.

517
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,319
Speaker 2: And then sometime in the mid nineties this was kept

518
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:42,079
under wraps slash overdose. Yeah, died did the Nikky six

519
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,000
dead for eight minutes?

520
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: Thing? M hm rose revived And they called the tour

521
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,319
manager and said, hey, one of your band members is

522
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,480
passed out in front of the elevator on you know,

523
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:54,079
like the fifth floor. And he goes up there and

524
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:58,640
slashes blue like no heartbeat. He's dead, but he made it.

525
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,640
Shot of adrenaline started his heart. He made it.

526
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,079
Speaker 2: And then on May the tenth of ninety four, due

527
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,519
to excessive alcohol, Duff McKagan's pancreas explodes.

528
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you read his book, right, I did it. That

529
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,680
was a huge part of his book, and that that

530
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:18,160
happened right around the same time that he had seen

531
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,039
Kirk Cobains for the last time. Like that's right. They

532
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:24,480
flew on the plane together, both Seattle guys, both going home.

533
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,960
Duff is dealing with his demons and thinks, hey, we

534
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,880
actually had a good plane ride together, even though they

535
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,400
had their differences over the course of these things, which

536
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,599
we can talk about it here in a little bit

537
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,240
as well. But he thinks, hey, I need to holler

538
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,000
at him and we need to have lunch so that

539
00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:42,200
I can kind of, yeah, do it, right, you know,

540
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,599
help him out maybe, And then about a week later,

541
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:46,839
Kirk Cobain's Bodies found listen to this.

542
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,599
Speaker 2: If Axel had had his way, Nirvana would have opened

543
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,440
for Metallica and Guns and Roses.

544
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? I can imagine, And it would have

545
00:28:54,759 --> 00:28:57,720
been epic. So we talked about it in the Metallica

546
00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:02,000
episode that the reason that the diehard thrash fans for

547
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:07,000
Metallica didn't like the Black Album was because it had

548
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:10,319
mass appeal. And these guys had seen Metallica as a

549
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:14,680
revolution against the spandex and the glamrock and the hair

550
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:17,519
and the makeup and all of that. And so when

551
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,440
the Black Album comes out and everybody knows who they

552
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,240
are and everybody says this is the best album, we

553
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,720
can see how that's frustrating to those fans because they

554
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,000
saw them as a revolution. And then the revolution became

555
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,240
the man appetite for destruction. Same thing, man, it's a revolution.

556
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,359
They weren't wearing the spandex. They well act at a

557
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,680
little bit, but it was a revolution, right. These guys

558
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,440
were different than those hair metal guys that were super

559
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,480
popular in eighty seven and eighty eight. And so again

560
00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:51,680
you've got this, Yeah, these guys are us. They represent

561
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,920
an anti establishment thing. But what happened between appetite and

562
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,119
use your illusion? Again? He he had no idea. He

563
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,720
thinks he's still in the revolution group. Whenever Nirvana comes out, right,

564
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:10,319
he still thinks he's in the revolt. Well, it turns

565
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:14,039
out he's completely lost his way. There's one concert where

566
00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:17,160
you can hear him talking about how much he likes Nirvana. Right,

567
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:20,559
this is the voice of revolution and rock and roll

568
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,119
is about that rebellion, and this is and then a

569
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,599
little bit later on, once he's been once Kurt Cobain

570
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,839
has said, screw you, you're just part of the establishment.

571
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,279
He's like really insulting, and he's like, you know, we're

572
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:35,519
the ones that were the revolution. We're the ones that

573
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:38,400
did it different than everybody else. And now we've got

574
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,839
thirty million people in front of us, and I'm like, dude,

575
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:44,519
you can't even hear yourself talk about how your criteria

576
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:46,720
is how many people are at your concert. And then

577
00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:49,079
he goes on to say, and they're doing drugs while

578
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:51,279
she's pregnant with that baby, and if it has any

579
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:54,920
birth defects, then I think they should both be arrested

580
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,240
and go to prison. That's just not afraid to speak

581
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:00,279
his mind. He is. He needs to read this book

582
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:01,839
called how to Win Friends and Influence.

583
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, there is so much to talk about.

584
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,119
Speaker 1: But we have two albums to go through, I know,

585
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:10,359
and so we probably got to get into the office.

586
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into it. Okay, So just real briefly,

587
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:17,559
the cover art of Usual Illusion one and two. Yes,

588
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:20,039
so Usual Illusion one, if you don't remember, is the

589
00:31:20,119 --> 00:31:24,440
yellow and red version of the old painting. They call

590
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,519
it the School of Athens. That's the name of the painting.

591
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:29,359
Speaker 1: It's in the Sistine Chapter. I've seen it, been.

592
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: There anyway, they took that old ancient painting, did a version.

593
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,079
Speaker 1: Of it Renaissance painting? Yes, yes, the School of Athens. Yes.

594
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: And Usual Allusion one is the yellow and red version.

595
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

596
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: Now, then when Usual Illusion came out, couldn't sell it

597
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:47,319
in Walmart, couldn't sell it in kmart. You had that

598
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:49,480
big fat parental advisory sticker on it.

599
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: So Walmart didn't sell parental advisory cit.

600
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:55,839
Speaker 2: Not initially, so I think they softened on that. But

601
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:58,640
five hundred thousand albums of these two are sold in

602
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,319
two hours.

603
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,519
Speaker 1: That's it. It went gold in two hours two hours.

604
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,519
Use Your Illusion one sold six hundred and eighty five

605
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,680
thousand US. Your Illusion two ultimately sold seven hundred and

606
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:13,920
fifty thousand US. Your Illusion one was number two, and

607
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,440
Use Your Illusion To was number one. Yep, okay dee.

608
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: So one of the cool new things that we've been

609
00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:21,279
doing is we've been having what we call the Shirley Spotlight.

610
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:25,200
Our good friend Brad Moore in Monroe, Louisiana, wanted to

611
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,839
weigh in on the Nirvana Pearl Jam episode that we

612
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,039
did a few weeks ago. It's Fall of ninety one,

613
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:32,039
and he's got something to say about that matchup.

614
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: Let's hear from Brad before he gets started. I just

615
00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:36,720
got to say Brad is one of our best fans,

616
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:41,200
always given us great insight into new things, and excited

617
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,640
to have him give us his opinion on this.

618
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:46,759
Speaker 3: Good morning everyone. This is Brad Moore from Monroe, Louisiana.

619
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:49,640
I wanted to weigh in on a past episode of

620
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,720
Surely You Can't Be Serious podcast, which pitted the two

621
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,960
super albums of the early nineties, Pearl Jams ten and

622
00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,359
Nirvana's never Mind. These two albums were so good and

623
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,640
came along. It's such a good time when I was

624
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,359
really really deep and interested into a lot of different

625
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:08,240
types of music, and it just opened up a Pandora's

626
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,960
box that I climbed into and never climbed out of.

627
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,799
It opened the door to the bands like Smashing Compan's,

628
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:19,559
Sound Garden, Alice and Chains, Screaming Trees. I could keep

629
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:22,279
going forever. I still listened to all these bands to

630
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,400
this day. But back to the matchup between these two albums,

631
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:28,079
Nirvana's Nevermind was probably the first one I heard.

632
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: It was just.

633
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: Something so different and it was straightforward. It was in

634
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:34,400
your face, just straight up hard rock and roll. I

635
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,599
loved it. Got to listen to Pearl Jams ten after

636
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,440
that same thing. It just, you know, just grabbed you

637
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,480
by the hair from the get go and didn't let go.

638
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:45,039
There was some little bit slower songs in there, very

639
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,960
very deep and had very very good lyrics. In comparing

640
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,759
these two, I'm certainly gonna have to lean towards Pearl

641
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:53,480
Jams ten. I just always felt like they were just

642
00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:58,680
more personable to me. It was deeper, more meaningful songs.

643
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,480
I liked the musicians, the type of music. Nirvana kind

644
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,279
of reminded me a little bit of punk, of which

645
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:06,440
I'm not a huge fan of. That being said, I

646
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,079
still love both albums. I'm not taking anything away from Nirvana,

647
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,480
but if I have to pick, I think Pearl jam

648
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:13,960
ten wins and it's really.

649
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,519
Speaker 1: Not even close.

650
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,199
Speaker 3: I want to thank you guys for coming up with

651
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,440
content that's just great to listen to every week, and

652
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,880
you guys are just knocking out of the park. I

653
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,320
appreciate you give me the opportunity to weigh in on this.

654
00:34:26,599 --> 00:34:29,599
Keep doing what you're doing, and if any of you

655
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,199
are listening to surely you can't be serious podcasts for

656
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:32,719
the first time.

657
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: Spread the word.

658
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:37,039
Speaker 3: This is a great thing to listen to. Guys. Keep

659
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:37,360
it up.

660
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: You have a great day, all right, d Well, he

661
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:41,920
agrees with both of us, apparently, Yeah, and thank you

662
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,360
very much.

663
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,039
Speaker 1: Appreciate that. It's always nice to have the compliment. And

664
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,119
we really appreciate you listening to Brad. It's hard are

665
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:50,519
you against Pearl jam ten Man? It is such a

666
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:54,079
good album. But those two came out almost exactly at

667
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:56,320
the same time as these two that we're comparing. For

668
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,199
these three that we're comparing, right now Metallica and Guns

669
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,519
N' Roses. So interesting that so many great albums coming

670
00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:04,320
out is exactly at the same time, I.

671
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: Think it's cool that, you know, for Brad anyway, that

672
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:10,079
Nirvana and Pearl Jim led him down the road to

673
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:13,199
discover other bands, you know, Spashing Pumpkins and Screaming Trees

674
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,159
and some of these other bands that he probably would

675
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:17,559
have never found if it hadn't been for those two albums.

676
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, same thing for me. Same thing for me.

677
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:23,119
I had a bunch of Allison Chain's albums that I

678
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:25,440
probably never would have had had it not been for

679
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,920
Nirvana and Pearl Jam.

680
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: If you would like to be a part of the

681
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:34,199
Shurly Spotlight, just send us an email Surelely Podcast at

682
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:35,119
gmail dot com.

683
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: We want to hear what you have to think.

684
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, just weigh in on anything that you've heard the

685
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,719
past or anything that you know we've got coming up.

686
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:43,239
Send us an audio clip less than three minutes, and

687
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,719
if it's really good, we'll put you on the show.

688
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: All right, were ready to go? Track by track? Let's

689
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:47,519
do it.

690
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:48,559
Speaker 2: Let's do track by track?

691
00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: Wait, sorry, next week, next week?

692
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,559
Speaker 4: Do there?

693
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: Everyone speaking up with the bags