Speaker 1: Of litigation and government relations firm, and Almo serves as
Speaker 1: the senior pastor of the Douglas Memorial Community Church of
Speaker 1: Baltimore and affiliates.
Speaker 2: He's also the former chief executive officer of the Rainbow
Speaker 2: Push Coalition. Doctor Yary, welcome forward to the show. Good
Speaker 2: to be with you on a Wednesday. It's a little
Speaker 2: while today. Let's see what happens, Doctor Yeary. You know,
Speaker 2: Gina has proposed that we take a look at yesterday
Speaker 2: in history. I meant to get to this yesterday, but
Speaker 2: we ran out of time on this day. On January twentieth,
Speaker 2: Colin Powell was selected or appointed, if you will, to
Speaker 2: be the first African American Secretary of State of the
Speaker 2: United States. Significance, Doctor Yurie, of the leadership of Colin Powell.
Speaker 3: Well, aside from a distinguished military career, certainly his appointment
Speaker 3: was very hopeful. I think there was, by virtue of
Speaker 3: things beyond his control, a little bit of disappointment and
Speaker 3: tarnished when it came down to the testimony concerning weapons
Speaker 3: of mass destruction in Iraq. But I think overall, if
Speaker 3: we were to try to position General Powell service, it
Speaker 3: would be highly unlikely, nearly impossible that he would be
Speaker 3: Secretary of State under this administration, simply because of the
Speaker 3: way they view the expertise and the capabilities of people
Speaker 3: of color, particularly of African descent. So I think if
Speaker 3: we just used that benchmark from yesterday and look at
Speaker 3: how far we have regressed in many ways in terms
Speaker 3: of who is actually called upon to serve in this government,
Speaker 3: particularly with this administration, I think we would all agree
Speaker 3: that it leaves a lot to be desired, and that
Speaker 3: would be putting it mildly.
Speaker 2: I know that we'll be coming forward in just a moment,
Speaker 2: but I do want to ask the question and remind
Speaker 2: people that Barack Obama was also inaugurated twice president of
Speaker 2: the United States. On January twentieth, Kamala Harris was nominated
Speaker 2: and was sworn in as the first African American woman
Speaker 2: Vice President of the United States on January twentieth, and
Speaker 2: so January twentieth in and of itself, including but not
Speaker 2: limited to Hiram Rebels, and the role that he played
Speaker 2: in the history of African Americans, was also very significant.
Speaker 2: On the date of January eleventh, I'm Jesse Jackson Junior
Speaker 2: listening to The Jesse Jackson Junior Show. My producer telling
Speaker 2: me to keep talking because I guess we're going right
Speaker 2: to the thirty. No, she's just saying keep talking generally.
Speaker 2: Oh it's okay. I'm Jesse Jackson Jr. More we come
Speaker 2: forward on Kblate Talk fifteen eighty. I'm Jesse Jackson Junior.
Speaker 2: Welcome lord to the Jesse Jackson Genia Show on Giulate Talk.
Speaker 2: Our regular contributor on Wealthy Wednesdays is doctor s todd Yurie,
Speaker 2: principle of the Yearie Firm. He's both a lawyer and
Speaker 2: a minister. He has one foot in the pulpit and
Speaker 2: also one foot in the courtroom, but both feet in reality,
Speaker 2: Doctor Uri, Welcome forward to the show. It's it's Wednesday.
Speaker 3: It's I'm waiting to see what the producer is gonna
Speaker 3: tell us when she says keep talking. That's a good
Speaker 3: thing rightday.
Speaker 2: But Gina does an extraordinary job. Really grateful for the
Speaker 2: work that she does here at the program and at
Speaker 2: the station. Hey, let me throw this out at you.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking in this moment, as we reflect during this
Speaker 2: drive time in Los Angeles, of just how significant January
Speaker 2: twentieth is in Black history. Now. I say that because
Speaker 2: I believe, even though Shirley Chisholm gets a significant amount
Speaker 2: of credit, that the first campaign by black people in
Speaker 2: a presidential election year to get the attention of Democrats
Speaker 2: and Republicans after the Voting Rights Act was the poor
Speaker 2: People's campaign. Doctor King is trying to get the attention
Speaker 2: of both parties at the hour of his assassination with
Speaker 2: this idea of the poor people's campaign. It's a campaign.
Speaker 2: It is a campaign like mailers and billboards and yard science.
Speaker 2: It's a poor people's campaign bringing them into the process
Speaker 2: just three years after the Voting Rights Act. Then you have,
Speaker 2: of course Shirley Chisholm in campaign nineteen seventy two. We
Speaker 2: have Jesse Jackson in a campaign nineteen eighty four and
Speaker 2: eighty eight. We have Reverend Sharpton running a presidential campaign.
Speaker 2: Everybody trying to get Reverend Yeary to January twentieth. Then
Speaker 2: we have Barack Obama as President of the United States.
Speaker 2: January twentieth, we have Kamala Harris inaugurated on January twentieth.
Speaker 2: January twentieth is as significant a date in the history
Speaker 2: of black people as any thing we celebrate all year,
Speaker 2: including Watch Night, Emancipation Day, Juneteenth, the election of a
Speaker 2: United States President, doctor yeary all forty seven of them
Speaker 2: is black history. It is.
Speaker 3: The question becomes, is it history in a progressive sort
Speaker 3: of sense where we're building and expanding on the principles
Speaker 3: of opportunity and inclusion, or does it become a very
Speaker 3: regressive kind of date that has many of us kind
Speaker 3: of marking the calendar to say, you mean to tell me,
Speaker 3: it's only been one year since this dude's been in
Speaker 3: office and we got three more to go. What does
Speaker 3: that portend for folks who are relying on the government
Speaker 3: to be a resource and not just an adversary in
Speaker 3: opposition to what's in the best interest, particularly of those
Speaker 3: who are most vulnerable. If we think about who gets snap,
Speaker 3: what it looks like we still don't have a livable
Speaker 3: wage in this country.
Speaker 2: There are a number of things.
Speaker 3: Even when we get into fair housing and the regression
Speaker 3: that happens there, we still don't have justice for black farmers.
Speaker 3: Because every time that comes up, the argument is is
Speaker 3: that somehow justice for disadvantage black folk is somehow discrimination
Speaker 3: against white folk. That every time we get to a
Speaker 3: January twentieth. We have to wrestle with whether or not
Speaker 3: these next four years is going to lend itself lend
Speaker 3: themselves to needing to be much more engaged and then
Speaker 3: much more assertive in making sure that we don't go
Speaker 3: back in time, which is exactly where we find ourselves today.
Speaker 2: I am particularly honored to hear that reflection. I've not
Speaker 2: heard one on this subject matter, and I think we
Speaker 2: together come up with a creative energy to put an
Speaker 2: angle on a particular date that some might just see
Speaker 2: as the third Windnesday, third Monday in January, where we
Speaker 2: celebrate the King Holiday and where we hear the speeches
Speaker 2: over and over again. But the fact of the matter
Speaker 2: is so much of our history now comes together in
Speaker 2: the cycle and Indian interpretation of what that date specifically means.
Speaker 2: I mean it ought to be a day of voter
Speaker 2: registration of a day of participation, a day of environmental justice,
Speaker 2: a day of equal high quality education, a day of
Speaker 2: health care, a day of holding Congress accountable, a day
Speaker 2: of sharing with future presidents of the United States, the
Speaker 2: kind of expectations we have in judicial appointments to the
Speaker 2: Federal bench and to the Supreme Court. I mean January
Speaker 2: twentieth is definitely not a laid back date because when
Speaker 2: you look at people like Hiram Revels, and you look
Speaker 2: at the significance the hopes of swearing in a new
Speaker 2: Congress occur on the January twentieth in a presidential election year.
Speaker 2: All of these things are happening in the context of
Speaker 2: January that somehow we just see as as small by comparison.
Speaker 2: Hiram Roodes revel was elected by the Mississippi Legislature as
Speaker 2: the first African American to serve in the US Senate
Speaker 2: or Milestone during reconstruction, so he wasn't sworn in until
Speaker 2: February twenty fifth, facing opposition and debate over his eligibility
Speaker 2: due to racial citizenship laws. According to sources like the
Speaker 2: Equal Justice Initiative, Hiram Revels the first black Senator. The
Speaker 2: Mississippi Sippy Department of Archives and History shares with us
Speaker 2: his story January twentieth, eighteen seventy. Dr Yuri.
Speaker 3: Well, bear in mind what eighteen seventy represents is a
Speaker 3: shift post Civil War, post Civil Rights Act of eighteen
Speaker 3: sixty six, and then you moved to Civil Rights Act
Speaker 3: of eighteen seventy you're beginning to see the emergence of
Speaker 3: a very influential voting block of people who had been
Speaker 3: historically excluded. And so Hiram revels election first of all,
Speaker 3: being selected by the legislature in and of itself ought
Speaker 3: to tell us a whole lot just because of the
Speaker 3: way senators were elected at that particular time. It wasn't
Speaker 3: a popular vote per se. But it also speaks to
Speaker 3: I think the importance of our full engagement and participation
Speaker 3: in this process. Where I think we've tended to lose
Speaker 3: our way is we've kind of held our engagement at
Speaker 3: the polls subject to kind of instant gratification. This isn't
Speaker 3: this isn't a one and done. As you were talking
Speaker 3: a minute ago, I was thinking January twentieth for us,
Speaker 3: or the third Monday in January, in observance of doctor
Speaker 3: King's birthday, should be a day that we actually issue
Speaker 3: a report card on the United States government on how
Speaker 3: well the government is doing addressing the issues for whom
Speaker 3: doctor King had great concern. And so it shouldn't just
Speaker 3: be hearing a president pontificate about Some would say pontificate,
Speaker 3: others might say defecate on the reality of what he
Speaker 3: had done on behalf of the nation. But rather than
Speaker 3: listening to this dude just poo poo over everything and
Speaker 3: make us believe that somehow other things are great and
Speaker 3: we're better off than we would have been otherwise is problematic,
Speaker 3: and the people's voice needs to be heard, and the
Speaker 3: government needs to be critiqued and evaluated on its effectiveness
Speaker 3: and doing what the government is supposed to do if
Speaker 3: it is government of.
Speaker 2: For and by the people. Oh, doctor ear you've said
Speaker 2: something about this report card. Now, this report card makes sense,
Speaker 2: I mean, and it can come from not only a
Speaker 2: national perspective, but even local communities ought be issuing on
Speaker 2: January twentieth what the state of play is on these
Speaker 2: critical questions raised by doctor King and raised in our
Speaker 2: society large given the very nature that January twentieth is
Speaker 2: a turning point in American history every four years, as
Speaker 2: part of a cycle in our historic memory as a nation,
Speaker 2: there is, as I was corrected earlier by James Felton Keith,
Speaker 2: of course it's January twenty twenty nine when we inaugurate
Speaker 2: a new president. But it still happens right around that
Speaker 2: third Monday in January every single year. Yeah, it's always there.
Speaker 3: It's here where I think it's important that we lift
Speaker 3: up the work of Tavis Smiley and the regular publications
Speaker 3: of the State of Black America when we would do
Speaker 3: an evaluation and an assessment of where are we in
Speaker 3: terms of the fundamental and essential points of evaluation, in
Speaker 3: terms of quality of life, participation, engagement, protection, are we
Speaker 3: secure in our person It is that kind of ongoing
Speaker 3: spirit that we have to go back and pick up again.
Speaker 3: But we also have to expand who are the teachers
Speaker 3: that are informing the report card?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: We get grades in more than one subject. Certainly we
Speaker 3: need to do a collaborative, cooperative, even a coalition focused
Speaker 3: evaluation of where the government is because that's how we
Speaker 3: begin to inform our own community. It's not just to
Speaker 3: tell the government the obvious. They know they're not doing anything.
Speaker 3: To tell them they're not doing anything is really more
Speaker 3: of a waste of energy, but to raise it and
Speaker 3: elevate it to a point of public discourse, local, state
Speaker 3: and federal. If they're going to give us a state
Speaker 3: of the city, state of the state, state of the
Speaker 3: Union address, then the people need to have their own
Speaker 3: retort to be able to say, we call bs for
Speaker 3: what you're trying to sell us in terms of a
Speaker 3: billy good. What's really going on here is you're hustling
Speaker 3: the people to the benefit of an exclusive club and
Speaker 3: to the harm of the masses. And therefore the people
Speaker 3: now need to get organized and mobilized to be able
Speaker 3: to take back their government.
Speaker 2: You know, we're onto something here. I'd like to see
Speaker 2: that State of the Union. The Black State of the
Speaker 2: Union Report reissued every January twentieth as a reflection on
Speaker 2: what the state of the Union really is, what the
Speaker 2: state of the Negro is, from our economic to our political,
Speaker 2: to our social to our cultural and there is no
Speaker 2: doubt that at this hour in the nation's history, we
Speaker 2: are in a source or space of regression. We are
Speaker 2: going backwards, not because we the people, particularly us, are
Speaker 2: not moving forward, but because the government itself is turning
Speaker 2: its back on the least of these year each just
Speaker 2: a few more minutes before we come forward.
Speaker 3: Well, uh, you call it turning turning his back. I
Speaker 3: think I think we got mooned. Uh. Something about this
Speaker 3: feels like a childish or a high school prank. That
Speaker 3: basically what what the Congress keeps showing us is there
Speaker 3: behind right, they're basically saying, we'll do what we want.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, you've got a president that's overseas today saying
Speaker 3: he's not going to give up on taking somebody else's land.
Speaker 3: He's just not going to use force to do it. Uh,
Speaker 3: and then comes out with some statement that says he
Speaker 3: has some sort of agreement that allows him to back
Speaker 3: away from imposing tariffs some folks who oppose his point
Speaker 3: of view about the seizing of land. There is this
Speaker 3: sense that we who have lived this history must be
Speaker 3: able to recount it. One because this year marks one
Speaker 3: hundred years since Black History Week was initiated and installed
Speaker 3: in this country, that we've got to go back and
Speaker 3: remember how we got here, and how we got here
Speaker 3: was not by some sense of charity or some sense
Speaker 3: of you know, egalitarian focus. Oh, let's just make room
Speaker 3: for the negro. No, we came in kicking down doors
Speaker 3: and making demands and persisting until the cries and the
Speaker 3: calls for justice had to be heard and had to
Speaker 3: be honored.
Speaker 2: Go to the club.
Speaker 4: Recent claim by President Trump that the nineteen sixty four
Speaker 4: Civil Rights Act harn white Americans is just wrong and
Speaker 4: it's dangerous. It rewrites history in a way that fuels
Speaker 4: fear and resentment. My fathers and so many leaders of
Speaker 4: the movement, Fred Shuttlesworth dying, Nash John Lewis, I can
Speaker 4: call the role, but I won't do it today, did
Speaker 4: not risk their lives to divide this nation. They did
Speaker 4: so because America was denying millions basic rights, the right
Speaker 4: to work, the right to vote, to live where they please,
Speaker 4: to move through society with dignity. The Civil Rights Act
Speaker 4: did not give Black people special treatment. It made discrimination illegal,
Speaker 4: the same discrimination you're trying to turn around and use
Speaker 4: a quiet the law to protect everyone equally. That is democracy.
Speaker 4: So to my white brothers and sisters, the Civil Rights
Speaker 4: Act was never meant to harm you. It was meant
Speaker 4: to heal a nation broken by injustice. Fairness does not
Speaker 4: steal from you. Justice strengthens us.
Speaker 2: All Junior listening to Jesse Jackson Junior show, Bernice King
Speaker 2: said it all more. When we come forward on k
Speaker 2: BLA talk fight, welcome for with me, Come on, come
Speaker 2: on with me. More than past political Action chair for
Speaker 2: the Maryland State Conference of the NAACP, as co founding
Speaker 2: principle of Community Churches for Community Development, Inc. And as
Speaker 2: the founding principle of Assault Strategic Advocacy and Legislative think Tank,
Speaker 2: a faith based public policy collaborative that works on regional
Speaker 2: and national empowerment strategies impacting disaffected communities. He's often called
Speaker 2: upon to facilitate creative conversations that solve challenging public policy problems.
Speaker 2: A civil rights attorney and public policy advocate, Doctor Yeerie
Speaker 2: holds a deep belief that honest dialogue creates opportunities to
Speaker 2: form strategic partnerships that strengthen families and communities. Doctor Eerie,
Speaker 2: welcome forward the Wealthy Wednesdays and the Jesse Jackson Junior Show.
Speaker 2: And as we wait for Doctor Yerie, I wanted to
Speaker 2: share with with everyone that I thought the profundity with
Speaker 2: which Bernice King delivered her remarks, which from my perspective,
Speaker 2: must always be difficult for Reverend doctor Bernice King. Obviously
Speaker 2: she's commemorating all the birth of her father, but also
Speaker 2: having to reflect not very far from his grave site
Speaker 2: along with the gravesite of her mother, and yet with
Speaker 2: such poise and such grace. She comes forward every single
Speaker 2: year on this holiday to reflect upon the life of
Speaker 2: her father in a timely, relevant, courageous, and clear way,
Speaker 2: and she almost always challenges the occupant of the White
Speaker 2: House and the nation's leadership to a higher moral calling
Speaker 2: and purpose. And so I was particularly moved just a
Speaker 2: few years ago when I sat through the King Holiday
Speaker 2: service at Ebenezer Church when Bernice delivered her annual address.
Speaker 2: Senator Rafael Warnock was present on that occasion. Of course,
Speaker 2: he is the pastor of Beniezer Baptist Church right across
Speaker 2: the street from the King Sinner. And the grace with
Speaker 2: which she approaches under very difficult circumstances, that reflection must
Speaker 2: be some kind of special place that she has to
Speaker 2: dig in order to be able to provide the kind
Speaker 2: of clarity that provides every single year during this period.
Speaker 2: And so I am particularly grateful for her spirit. I
Speaker 2: am completely grateful that God has given us a woman
Speaker 2: in this particular time, a leader of immense moral authority
Speaker 2: and clarity in Reverend Doctor Bernice King. I do believe
Speaker 2: that I want to turn our conversation to this question
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump and Greenland and his preoccupation and obsession
Speaker 2: with Greenland. With that said, I'm going to turn to
Speaker 2: our team and ask them to play a clip regarding Greenland.
Speaker 5: Thucidides is presented as inevitable, as the natural logic of
Speaker 5: international relations reasserting itself, and faced with this logic, there
Speaker 5: is a strong tendency for countries to go along, to
Speaker 5: get along, to accommodate, to avoid trouble, to hope that
Speaker 5: compliance will buy safety. Well it won't, so what are
Speaker 5: our options. In nineteen seventy eight, the Czech dissident Vaslav Havel,
Speaker 5: later president, wrote an essay called The Power of the Powerless,
Speaker 5: and in it he asked a simple question, how did
Speaker 5: the communist system sustain itself? And his answer began with
Speaker 5: a greengrocer. Every morning, this shopkeeper places a sign in
Speaker 5: his window, Workers of the world unite. He doesn't believe it,
Speaker 5: no one does, but he places a sign anyway to
Speaker 5: avoid trouble, to signal compliance, to get along. And because
Speaker 5: every shopkeeper on every street does the same, the system
Speaker 5: persists not through violence alone, but through the participation of
Speaker 5: ordinary people in rituals they privately know to be false.
Speaker 5: Havell called this living within a lie. The system's power
Speaker 5: comes not from its truth, but from everyone's willingness to
Speaker 5: perform as if it were true, and its fragility comes
Speaker 5: from the same source. When even one person stops performing,
Speaker 5: when the greengrocer removes his sign, the illusion begins to crack. Friends,
Speaker 5: it is time for companies and countries to take their
Speaker 5: signs down.
Speaker 2: For decades, for.
Speaker 6: Decades, countries like Canada prospered under what we called the
Speaker 6: rules based international order. We joined its institutions, we praised
Speaker 6: its principles, We benefited from its predictability, and because of that,
Speaker 6: we could pursue values based foreign policies under its protection.
Speaker 6: We knew the story of the international rules based order
Speaker 6: was partially false, that the strongest would exempt themselves when convenient,
Speaker 6: that trade rules were enforced asymmetrically, and we knew that
Speaker 6: international law applied with varying rigor depending on the identity
Speaker 6: of the.
Speaker 5: Accused or the victim.
Speaker 6: This fiction was useful.
Speaker 5: An American hegemony, in particular, helped provide public goods, open
Speaker 5: sea lanes, a stable financial system, collective security, and support
Speaker 5: for frameworks for resolving disputes. Placed the sign in the window.
Speaker 5: We participated in the rituals, and we largely avoided calling
Speaker 5: out the gaps between rhetoric and reality. This bargain no longer.
Speaker 2: Works, Doctor Yarie. I want to turn our attention to Greenland.
Speaker 2: But I'm also deeply troubled by the reality that much
Speaker 2: of the investigations into Donald Trump in his first term
Speaker 2: were largely driven by what James Comy, Hillary Clinton others
Speaker 2: actually knew about Donald Trump and his ability to bring
Speaker 2: chaos to the world order. We have just a few
Speaker 2: minutes before we come forward, Doctor Eerie, your thoughts on
Speaker 2: the chaos of the hour from Donald John Trump in
Speaker 2: the international order. Two words that come up in that speech.
Speaker 2: One is American jiminy.
Speaker 3: It is that sense of entitlement and self proclaimed dominance
Speaker 3: and domination that the rest of the world is now
Speaker 3: paying very close attention to.
Speaker 2: And I think what you're.
Speaker 3: Beginning to see is a realignment of allegiances and alliances
Speaker 3: that could very well leave the United States out on
Speaker 3: a limb by itself. And simply claiming that you've got
Speaker 3: the strongest military on the face of the planet does
Speaker 3: not somehow make you the one who sets the rules.
Speaker 2: On the playground.
Speaker 3: And so I think inside the US bubble, the thing
Speaker 3: that has to be determined, particularly in the halls of Congress,
Speaker 3: is how long do we let this reckless type of
Speaker 3: leadership go unchecked and not use what Congress has as
Speaker 3: its greatest tool, and that's the power of the purse.
Speaker 2: That you can't just use who's.
Speaker 3: Somebody else's money, which he's accustomed to doing, to do
Speaker 3: what he wants to do for his own benefit. And
Speaker 3: it's going to have diminishing returns. It already does, and
Speaker 3: eventually it's going to start causing arm in places where
Speaker 3: he claims that he's got his greatest success.
Speaker 2: I'm Jesse Jackson Junior listening to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show.
Speaker 2: This is doctors Todd Yuri more than We Come forward
Speaker 2: on KBLA Talk fifteen j Lunch Club welcomes doctor Yuri forward,
Speaker 2: Doctor YERI I have a I have this revelation in
Speaker 2: our conversation that just arrived. Everything Trump did in his
Speaker 2: first term. When I think about Greenland, including demanding that
Speaker 2: Europe pay more of its own defense, It's not like
Speaker 2: it was an effort that if they paid more of
Speaker 2: their own defense, he would reduce the US military budget.
Speaker 2: In fact, he will be the first president to propose
Speaker 2: a trillion dollar annual military budget for the United States,
Speaker 2: the largest military budget per animal spending in the history
Speaker 2: of the world per year. But by demanding that Europe
Speaker 2: pay more of its own defense and then the American
Speaker 2: people giving him a second term, he's essentially saying, now,
Speaker 2: pay for all of your own defense. And of course,
Speaker 2: the greatest threat to Europe is Putin and Ukraine and
Speaker 2: the march of Putin westward from Ukraine to the borders
Speaker 2: potentially of Europe itself. When you speak about unraveling the
Speaker 2: entire international order, there is something to be said about
Speaker 2: the early investigations into Donald Trump and his behavior that
Speaker 2: was deeply troubling for the intelligence community in the United States.
Speaker 3: Theory, yeah, there are few things embedded in that very
Speaker 3: cogent question. The US economy is a consumption based economy.
Speaker 2: What makes it thrive is for the.
Speaker 3: Consumer to be able to get what they need to consume.
Speaker 3: The US economy is not built to be self sustaining.
Speaker 3: It needs a global marketplace in which to operate so
Speaker 3: that you don't have as much pressure. Right, we have
Speaker 3: a depressed labor wage, we have depressed opportunity, we have
Speaker 3: kind of exclusions for who does and does not get
Speaker 3: paid for certain types of work. If this wered to
Speaker 3: really be as they talk about a market based solution,
Speaker 3: much of what the US claims to be America first
Speaker 3: would be beyond the reach to even be produced here
Speaker 3: because the cost of labor as part of the formula
Speaker 3: would be unsustainable. And so for the units to think
Speaker 3: that somehow or other, this notion of expanding military and
Speaker 3: getting other countries to pay more and giving this sense
Speaker 3: that somehow other these factories are going to come back,
Speaker 3: and yet they're going to pay seven dollars and twenty
Speaker 3: five cents an hour only in those states where the
Speaker 3: federal hourly wage is higher.
Speaker 2: Than the state wage.
Speaker 3: That's states, particularly in the old Confederate South. We've got
Speaker 3: to be real clear that we understand that we're not
Speaker 3: going to get hustled this time. That's what reverend doctor
Speaker 3: Bernie's King was talking about. That's what we heard from
Speaker 3: Davos this morning. Everybody is saying saying, look, we're onto
Speaker 3: this game and we're not going to get played again.
Speaker 3: And so remember you've been talking to mister President that
Speaker 3: is feeding this kind of infantile insanity. You need to
Speaker 3: understand that it's not going to be go along to
Speaker 3: get along. You're going to get pushed back internally in
Speaker 3: terms of in the streets of the United States, and
Speaker 3: you're going to get pushed back in terms of global policy.
Speaker 3: And if you want to live on that iceberg, then
Speaker 3: go for it. But we're not going to become subjects
Speaker 3: to American hegemony.
Speaker 5: Again.
Speaker 2: I heard the other day, and one person also commented
Speaker 2: in our chat that they've never seen a president more
Speaker 2: intent on a World War three and another civil war
Speaker 2: all within his own administration. Is there a tipping point? Todd, Well,
Speaker 2: the tipping point is you've got to be careful that
Speaker 2: the civil war and the World war don't.
Speaker 3: Happen at the same time, because then you've got to
Speaker 3: figure out what he's going to do with the military
Speaker 3: that he says has these off the chart enlistments going on. Right,
Speaker 3: there is a ceiling to what the US military can
Speaker 3: actually handle.
Speaker 2: And when he's running off.
Speaker 3: In all of these places using the military for non
Speaker 3: military purposes, what he's doing is he's further depleting the
Speaker 3: capacity of the military to do what nations military forces
Speaker 3: are really there to do to defend their interest.
Speaker 2: And so I think he's spreading things too.
Speaker 3: Thin, and I think he's giving himself too much credit
Speaker 3: that somehow that he's going to be able to dominate.
Speaker 3: And in the meantime, I'm sure there are a number
Speaker 3: of conversations for which he is not pretty that those
Speaker 3: he would maybe consider as adversaries are maybe building alliances
Speaker 3: that are counter to the US domination strategy that has
Speaker 3: never really worked. And even as he celebrates two and
Speaker 3: fifty years of independence, the independence of America was not
Speaker 3: done solely by the resources of America. They had to
Speaker 3: have allies in that exercise. And to think that somehow
Speaker 3: that he can celebrate it and not honor it is
Speaker 3: something that we all have.
Speaker 2: To reckon with, you know, doctor Bury, I think that
Speaker 2: I don't think he's making decisions at all. I don't
Speaker 2: think he's capable given what we've seen over the last
Speaker 2: nine months. I don't think he's capable of sitting through
Speaker 2: a meeting and rationally approaching the present role that he
Speaker 2: has as President of the United States, the moral questions,
Speaker 2: the political questions, the security questions. I don't think he's
Speaker 2: that patient. I don't think he gives the kind of
Speaker 2: reflection that we think about previous presidents, the George W.
Speaker 2: Bush maybe more I'm sorry, George H. W. Bush, maybe
Speaker 2: more than George W. Who needed his vice president the
Speaker 2: kind of reflection that Barack Obama and John F. Kennedy
Speaker 2: and even Lyndon Johnson gave to the office of the Presidency.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's capable of it. So this is
Speaker 2: a useful there's some useful idiocy going on here. But
Speaker 2: there is a cabal in the White House that this
Speaker 2: country is going to have to come to terms with
Speaker 2: through the legal system when this administration is over. Talking
Speaker 2: about autopen auto pen taking a person who is like
Speaker 2: spending the weekend with Bernie's with the President of the
Speaker 2: United States and just having him sign things that are
Speaker 2: part of this whole project twenty twenty five agenda has
Speaker 2: been so catastrophic to the republic itself. To the two
Speaker 2: hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. He's
Speaker 2: shredding the documentary Iman year. We have about two minutes
Speaker 2: before you come forward. I know, I took us in
Speaker 2: a beat valley and you take us to a mountain
Speaker 2: of hope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to climb the mountain, though. We gotta
Speaker 3: be real clear what we're seeing is actually the byproduct
Speaker 3: telling exactly what you just mentioned. It is the kind
Speaker 3: of passive endorsement of this kind of recklessness.
Speaker 2: But here's what I was saying for us.
Speaker 3: To remember as we observe Doctor King's holiday on yesterday
Speaker 3: or day before yesterday, we have to remember that Scripture
Speaker 3: tells us that in honoring God now into the one
Speaker 3: who is able to do exceedingly and abundantly above all
Speaker 3: that we can ask or imagine according to the power
Speaker 3: that's at work within us. This isn't a moment about
Speaker 3: what God's going to do. This is a moment about
Speaker 3: what the people are going to do.
Speaker 2: You the power that God has given.
Speaker 3: Us to be able to change the dynamics and dimensions
Speaker 3: of what human frailty cannot otherwise produce. And if the
Speaker 3: divine in us rises in this moment, then the moral
Speaker 3: outcomes will indeed be ours to experience, and we will
Speaker 3: be able to pass them on to our children.
Speaker 2: Thank you, doctor here for being with us today. Always
Speaker 2: good to be with you, my brother. I'm Jesse Jackson Jr.
Speaker 2: You've been listening to s. Todd. You're the principle of
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