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Speaker 1: Off the bench. We have to Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Well, the plays get broken down and Science gets denied

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to come off the bitch. Hour two of Off the Bench,

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Live from the Raising Kine Studio.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back here Off the Bench Wednesday morning,

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taking off hour at number two. Thanks for joining us

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this morning. We hear it's a beautiful day out today.

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We don't really know, so we come in when it's dark.

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But Doc came in this morning. That is a beautiful

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day Wednesday. Show's brought to you by a hood Dannel,

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brought to you every single week. We are here with

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Doctor Steven Ether Jealousie team Doctor Doc.

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Speaker 3: How are we doing doing great? Everything's good, everything's We're

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in the big chair today. I'm feeling special over here.

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Speaker 2: This is great. I know you had to move Cane

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the dogs. You didn't have to hit her too, put

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him in their place. Oh, everything's good though, life's good.

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That's great. All right? Good you were you? Did you

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come talk to Taylor and laundr last week?

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Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, actually I got to have your chair last week,

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so I'm getting the whole He's the studio.

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Speaker 4: He schooled us on like the Earth orbiting and stuff.

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Speaker 2: You talk about that a little bit, Yes, Spring equinox.

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Taylor made the point yesterdays. It's like, why don't we

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just like take a day away from a couple of months.

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Speaker 4: That's what we talked about and how we could do it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because eventually, if you did take a day away

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from a month, like winter would be in the spring,

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summer would be in the winter, it'd be that kind

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of situation.

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Speaker 2: We don't want that.

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Speaker 4: M hmm.

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Speaker 2: Combine week, combine combine. Wee what a week? What a

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what a week? We talked about So Jake and I

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talked about this a lot, like leading up to the Combine.

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He's at the Combine this week, so we talked about

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a lot Monday too. It is certainly a huge week

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for every player involved. It's certainly a huge week. And

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and the sexy stuff is what most people talk about.

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It's like what forty to run? How much did he bench?

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How much did he do this? Well, we looked at

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the schedule yesterday, like quarterbacks, receivers, running backs report on Tuesday.

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They don't even hit the field till Saturday. Saturday. Now

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that's four nights that they got and then I think

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they do bench press on Sunday, so like it's a long,

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long week. It's even longer than when went back of

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my day, like twenty years ago doing it. So most

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of this is certainly player interviews, but the other important part,

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of course, is on the medical side of things. These

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kids are put through the wringer. If you will have you,

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I want to talk about your kind of you probably

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have some stuff going on with the comb I'm sure

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these team doctors before they even get to the combine,

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especially people like high on lists and their teams are

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thinking about I'm sure they're reaching out to colleges and

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getting different medical documents and opinions and talking to team doctors. Yeah,

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it's a process.

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Speaker 3: So we definitely have episodes where we have teams reach

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out to us, especially if you have a you know,

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a big player that had any kind of a major injury.

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there is anything in their medical history. They're gonna get

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all the documentation, they're gonna have the notes, the imaging,

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everything that was done to that athlete up to this point.

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Speaker 2: You'll have access to that. And and I did you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I get that got the pleasure of getting to

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go to the Combine one year as a medical provider.

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they were there, and and getting to see that whole process.

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And I know y'all have talked about it, but it

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was it was an eye opening experience. I mean, it's

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it is and and I felt so guilty for the

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medical treatment these guys get and and again it's all

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obviously of the best intentions and and look, it's a

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huge investment if you're drafting a guy, especially you're going

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to draft a guy early, and a big part of

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it is is the medical You don't want to draft

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a guy who's only going to play for a season

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and then be out, or a guy there's no we're going.

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Speaker 2: To see the fieldment.

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Speaker 3: So so it was a it was an interesting process,

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you know, the and I know y'all talked about it some.

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way the way they did it is you had one

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room right in the beginning, so all the players come

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Speaker 3: And I know you went through it, but in that room,

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that's where you're you're geting your bood pressure, you're getting

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heart and lungs and all the basic medical non orthopedic, muscular,

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skeletal stuff. And the funny thing is you do that

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and the Bucks, we'd be in that room and then

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the rest of the docks kind of just take you

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my report and they say, okay, this is But then

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you go to the orthopedic side. And that's the part

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y'all were talking about where every team there's there's like

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we leave six rooms. Yeah, uh five or six teams

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Speaker 2: Yep. I think that. I think that's right because I

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think Jake said that you sit in one room, but

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that had like eight doctors like cracking their knucklesh. Yeah,

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still a good bit of camaraderie in the medicine, which

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our room, for example, is like the Saints, the Bucks,

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the Giants, I think the Panthers, and I think the

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packers are in our room and and so each one

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has a couple docks, they have their athletic trainers, and

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so you know, when you're in there, we're gonna do

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a basic orthopedic exam and then focus on any injury

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your ankle based on what we see or have or

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don't have, I'm gonna order the MRI. And then then

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we need to get a CT scan in a shoulder. So

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sheet with all the evaluations and you're gonna have all

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these studies. They have the MRI machines there at Lucas Oil.

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there at the facility now, so you don't have to

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units where they can do it. So it's all done

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bizarre test that you need to get done. And and

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so at the end of the day you're gonna say, ok, hey, Matt,

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day we get those reports back and then we kind

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of go back and we look at it. But the

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part that was interesting is all the teams in that

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room together at least talk, So after you leave the room,

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maybe one of the greatest educational experiences I've had as

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a doctor was sitting here listening to the best of

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the best you know in that room. At least it's

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five teams, and so I'm listening to the you know,

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Bobby Anderson, who's a legendary foot and ankle guy who

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at the time is with the Packers. I'm listening to

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him talk about ankle injuries and this guy's ankle.

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Speaker 2: But on the other hand, for the athletes, you go.

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Speaker 3: From room to room, people are pulling on your niche,

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whist on, and especially if you had a knee injury,

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we are going to test the every living you know

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what out of that. I mean, it is insane. And

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so then you leave at the end of the day,

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like you said, you probably weren't sore and you got there.

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and over, even if that needs great, it's gonna it's

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gonna be soords it's but and then the interesting thing

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is the all the teams talk. But then at the end,

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each team comes up with their own assessment, and we

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would grade you as like if you had nothing, you

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would be an A, and there's nobody this an except

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for maybe a punter. And then then it was like

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a B. And this is like every team has on

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her scale, but some version of this. And then you

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get to like a C. And that's what really most

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people are. That means you've had injuries rather significant. Maybe

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some that may give you issues. And then we had

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a designate a number. I'll give you a C five,

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which means you're a you've had some injuries, and I

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think you've got a five year career based on your

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medical alone. And I mean that's it's a lot of speculation,

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and it's a lot of pressure. And then like you

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the guy who has a current injury, so we have

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to reassess you. And then then you fail a guy

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like hey, I don't think you'll ever play, Yeah, you

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know so, and the whole thing is crazy, and and

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year I was there that there was there was guys

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that would come through and and this is their dream.

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his knees are horrible, their shot, he's already got early

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arthritis in both knees.

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Speaker 2: He ain't gonna last three years.

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Speaker 3: And this is the guy that may have been like

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a fifth round prospect who's now out of the draft

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because of that grade. And it's it's and you know,

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maybe one team doesn't feel that way. You hope for

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that kid, but on the other hand, it's like, gosh,

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Speaker 2: Now do you all would the doctors like communicate, Like

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if you're in the same room and you got a

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Green Bay doctor and then you got a Broncos doc, Derek,

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could they potentially have two completely different evaluations? For sure?

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Speaker 3: For sure, now we're gonna talk about the eval altogether.

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But maybe I don't think that your knee situation is

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quite as bad. I'm like, you know, I might saw

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I might grade you like a B and he might

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say you're a C and or I might say you're

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a C five and give you a C two. So

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there's a lot of variability and and that's where the

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part does separate. But we might still, you know, I

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might talk about it, and then I might not tell

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you my grade.

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Speaker 2: I might, you know, kind of.

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Speaker 3: That was more than that one part that was gamesmanship,

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and that's the part that is, you know, so at

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the end of the day, we share information, I say,

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and I will say it was pretty honest, like, hey,

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I'm really worried about this kid's knee. He was a

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little bit loose already. That cartilage on his zimri looks

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pretty rough. All those are things we might talk about,

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but that the end of the day, the grade that

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we give you is not shared. That's the one part

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that was of kept secret, even though there was, like

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I said, a lot of sharing of info.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: So, like I said, we listened to guy talked about

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the ankle, and I'm like, you know, I think it's

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Speaker 2: And that part would be up on the teams. So like, yeah,

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the Cowboys doctor sitting there and he's asking the opinion

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of like the Texans doctor and he's like, I guess sucks.

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I mean that doctor sucks.

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Speaker 3: You know, there probably is a little of that is awful.

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Speaker 2: Where good? Where'd he go to school? Right? So three

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hundred nineteen prospects, we're invited to the twenty twenty six

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NFL Combine. That's a lot of poking and pride, and

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that's a lot of work for the doctor. Like, that's

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a big job for them. Has there ever been a

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doctor get injured at the combine? I'm sure there has.

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I'm sure there has. I was not aware of anybody. Yeah,

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I gotta imagine that much. That much, that much? Do

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banged up. Some of the guys a little more seasoned,

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maybe they uh that shoulder don't hold it up as well.

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Speaker 2: Are you concerned with any of the uh, any big

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injuries for LSU.

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Speaker 3: Guys headed towards I think everybody's gonna do pretty well.

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was about a lot. You know, they're going to talk

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a lot about that. You know, we've had some guys

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that that going into this are gonna have questions, but

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in are pretty healthy.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Along with that tour, So, like Garrett has Garrett

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came out and lard Singapore and kind of said that

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there was something there, but he didn't really give any

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specifics was there is It just kind of like, uh,

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we don't really know what what this is and it's

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just it's an AB injury. Just can't use a strain

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muscle or something. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know it's something that you know, he

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battled with for a while and it's something that he

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really fought, fought hard with and I respected that part

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of it because he had to play through that and

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try and figure out ways to make it work. We

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had to try and find ways to make it work.

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like I'm not sure what I'm allowed to go into

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and what I'm not because some of it is public

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information now some of it isn't. Obviously, we know he

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had anab injury and and and it was something that again.

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Speaker 2: He gritted it out. Give him a lot of you know,

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we did, we did all we.

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Speaker 3: Could to help him, and you know, unfortunately some injuries just.

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Speaker 2: So sure, it'll be talked a lot about this week.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there will be some scations thirty two team doctors.

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think it would be, but if he had an injury

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that would affect him the rest of his career, you

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want to know that. And whereas if it's something that

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was something we can work through, which I believe it is,

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this is something he's gonna get better from.

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Speaker 2: He's good now, he's going to be hopefully have a

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long career. Yeah, well, we wish all the l few players,

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of course, at the Best this week, I do want

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to talk about another pretty famous injury in another completely

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different sport. Lindsey Vaughan broker leg and I'm sure I

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think we've probably talked a little bit about it with

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you on the show. But recently she's had I think

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six or seven surgeries so far since she has famously

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broken her leg thirteen seconds into her first run during competition.

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ACL injury the week before, obviously a terrible injury. I

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think I looked through the list. I couldn't find it

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this morning, but it was like broken tibia, torn, ac raptured, ACL,

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like it's like a list of seven or eight things

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on that line that happened. She has come out since then.

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I think she posted an Instagram post that said that

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the doctor we were close to having to amputate my

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leg because the injuries were so severe. The doctor that

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did the procedure basically saved my leg. And I had this,

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I saw it, read this an incredible quote this morning,

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quote from Wendsey Vaughn. He cut both sides of my

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leg kind of pilated open, so to speak, to let

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it breathe, and that was part of the surgery that

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kind of saved her leg from having to be ampty

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day Taylor. People out the picture of her x rays, Doc,

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I just want to kind of talk to you about

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the severity of this type of injury. Certainly this is

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her X ray after post surgery, about seventeen thousand screws, nuts, bolts, plates,

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the whole deal. Like, what happens in a situation like

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where it's such a severe traumatic event to a leg

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or a limb that has to nearly be amputated.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so I think the first thing to talk

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about is is she developed a condition called compartment syndrome,

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and that was the first surgery they did. That was

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the one that you know, ultimately saved the legs. As

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she said, so, compartment syndrome is a situation that's pretty

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much always going to be associated with some kind of

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massive traumatic injury, a crush injury we often see so

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a lot of times, like construction accidents, you worry about that,

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motor vehicle accidents, But if you have an injury that

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has the amount of fractures she had, you know, clearly

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based on your pairriage, you can see a lot of

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different fracture lines.

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Speaker 2: You're having to hold that thing in white would be

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the fresh line. Yes, all that white is where you

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can see that fractures kind of through there. And they

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did a great job.

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Speaker 3: You know, her alignment looks great, But what happens is

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you get so much bleeding in that tissue that you

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end up getting a lot of swelling in the tissue.

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And to recall compartment syndrome because in every muscular part

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of the body you have these muscular compartments. In the

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lower leg, you have four separate muscular compartments. And what

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can happen in anyone, if not all of those, is

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if you have so much rapid inflammation, you basically form

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like a self tournique at that level wherever that inflammation is.

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And so if you think about it, you're tourni getting

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off or compressing off the blood flow to everything below that.

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So if I suddenly increase the pressure drastically in your

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leg to where the blood flow doesn't go further, everything

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below that, if given the opportunity, will die. So the

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procedure that she talked about where it's like they filay

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her leg is called a fasciotomy. They go in, you

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cut down and you basically literally just relieve the pressure.

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You're you're letting that pressure out to allow blood flow to.

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Speaker 2: Leave the a cut open the leg skin and the muscles,

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and it just stays open for a period of time.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes Now sometimes you just have to evacuate if there's

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like a hematoma in there, so a mass of blood

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that sort of coagulated it, and so a lot of

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times you can go and remove that. Sometimes you'll leave

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some of these things open for a bit until the

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pressure can get stabilized and then close it. We'll see

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that sometimes, like with major abdominal wounds, where they literally

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leave your abdomen open to you know, if you have

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a lot of pressure in there. So it's not just

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in the legs you'll see this, but the lower leg

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is one of the more common areas where people develop that.

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And and again usually from a major trauma. You know,

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this would obviously classify, but multiple broken bones that were displaced.

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Then you got to let that sort of normalize. Then

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you got to go back in and work on fixing

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this thing. And that's so they go in and and

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you're gonna have to repair you know, if there's any

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vascular damage, you might look at that if there's any

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damage the bones, you're gonna have to go back in

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and sort of set those bones.

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Speaker 2: You get the plates, the screws.

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't want to do too much all

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at once because it's all the swelling that can incur.

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So sometimes a step, step by step process.

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Speaker 2: So what would the fasciotomy like? So what would the

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first surgery be? So if she had six, I think like, yeah,

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the last I read it was six. It might be

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more now, but what like what does that step process?

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Speaker 3: So definitely the first one's got to be the fasciaout

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of it that you're you're working against o'clock when you

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know you only have a very limited timeframe as that

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pressure goes up.

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Speaker 2: Come here, you think about it.

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Speaker 3: Your tissue can only go so long without oxygen, and

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you might get a little bit of blood flow in

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these compartment sents, but it's such a limited amount.

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Speaker 2: That's the number one priority.

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Speaker 3: Then once you kind of get the patients stable, then

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we figure out, okay, is there is there other things

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that need to be fixed? And obviously you're gonna you're

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gonna stage these things with the worst case scenarios and

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then work your way down. Let's let's focus on the

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big injuries. Let's focus on the things that could cause

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you to lose the limb. Was there a blood vessel?

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Is damage that we need to go and repair, and

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so a lot of times you're gonna get a vascular

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surgeon involved with that. A lot of times these aren't

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just done by the orthopedists. You're gonna have sometimes multiple

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and you know, different specialists that are going to be

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in there, and then and then you work your way down,

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you know, to each one that you can fix and

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and all this. You know, you got to kind of

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there's not necessarily a specific order. I think you got

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to take it case by case, but you got to

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look at what the most serious things are and then

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you kind of work down that list. Taylor, can you

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put another picture of her in her hospital? I was

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I was curious because I've just this type of injury.

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I was curious as to what these this contraption is

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right here as I'm assuming it's some sort of stabilization,

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you can see that her leg is like cut open

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right there. Yes, so a lot of times they'll do

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different versions of that, some type of you know, external fixator.

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It's gonna be something that sits outside the body. External

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that's going to stabilize and hold your leg or your

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arm or whatever it.

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Speaker 2: Is in place.

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Speaker 3: Most commonly we see these in leg injuries most common

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the complex fractures, uh, and a lot of times these

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are even attached to the person's bones and things like that.

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You can see in the ends where it's actually it's

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actually kind of pinned into like was is this attached

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to her? Or the bed like is that's attached to her?

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And then and so that's part of a surgery too,

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and then you don't have to go and remove that.

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So that's a procedure in and of itself, because this

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thing is literally externally fixated. That's why I call it

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an external fixation. So it's external to the body, but

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it's fixed to the individual's bones and injuries and basically

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just to hold everything in place so that it can

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heal appropriately. You know, it's these are I mean, that's

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a big big Have you ever had something this this personally? No,

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I'm not, but but thankfully you know, it's something we'll

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see sometimes and it's it's you know, again, most of

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the times you see these types of injuries, big traumas,

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car accidents, right, you know, construction injuries, Like I was

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saying earlier, people had a big fall off of something.

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But you'll see them sometimes in sports obviously, but it's

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fortunately not something we see a lot in sports.

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Speaker 2: Something like this that much Metalenia. Is she gonna ski?

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I mean obviously a competition that at less, she's forty one,

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she had this injury, but like, is there gonna be

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long term like limping? She ever gonna go skis again?

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You know, you you hope, you hope the best.

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Speaker 3: And we've definitely seen circumstances where people have come back

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from really crazy injuries. But I will say it's a

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reasonable possibility that.

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Speaker 2: This will be going to be a painful situation.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna it's gonna cause a lot of pain. It's

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gonna cause her issues probably the rest of her life. Now,

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could I see a scenario where she really battles back

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and as a rehab warrior and is able to at

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least live a pretty normal life, maybe even ski maybe

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not competitively obviously, Yeah, I could see that, you know,

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I mean, but it's it's it's gonna be a big process.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it's a painful situation, and it was

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inspiring to see her compete, certainly, and heartbreaking to see

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her injury like that. But I think she's the type

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of competitor that she's certainly going to uh go out

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on her shield if she has to, which she did,

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so we wish her speedy or as fast as you

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can recovery, hopefully over the least she's got the leg still, Yeah,

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sounds a good thing. Scary stuff right there, But Doc,

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we thank you for your time as always every week. Man,

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thank you. Thanks for the insight too. That was awesome,

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my pleasure. All right, guys, well, got a lot of

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Speaker 5: Flow ib Can I get the show started instigating a

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little drama?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so I did AFR yesterday.

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Speaker 4: OTV should go do a show from there.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sure that he'd be willing to let us,

535
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So I think we should called Shaye Dixon to get

536
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him on a fr answers the phone. Hailandra, just super happy.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, he sh wow, afternoon.

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Speaker 5: You didn't want to hailandro me whenever I called you

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for O T B and you goods.

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Speaker 4: Come on.

541
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Speaker 2: I don't even want to throw shade right now. But

542
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you know, maybe it's just not a morning guy.

543
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Speaker 1: No.

544
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Speaker 4: I think what did he say that the meeting went along?

545
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Speaker 2: He was like, I was afraid to even like answer

546
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your call.

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Speaker 5: Jake, thinking about texting you all.

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Speaker 6: Shaye, Jake. You know, like it's it's really important these

549
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guys remember where they came from. And it's just disappointing

550
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that those guys that have these lsu tis.

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Speaker 2: Kind of abandoned people in the time I need they

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do out of the Fox al and they try to

553
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come back in eight eighty say, we're just kidding.

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Speaker 4: We love you, We love you, Shay.

555
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Speaker 2: You do great work except that one day, except for

556
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that one time you didn't come on a show.

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Speaker 4: And are we going to keep harping on it? Yes,

558
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it's what we do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, three years from now we're talking about Wait, yeah,

560
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we don't drop them. No, we're petty, and I'm fine

561
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with that. Pet Hey, that was fascinating stuff from doc. Oh. Yeah,

562
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I like that surgery, the fasciotomy. I guess, like looking back,

563
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I guess I've heard of that before. But my god,

564
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there was another picture of her in the hospital bed

565
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where it was like her leg was like split open,

566
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like twelve inches at least.

567
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Speaker 4: Wait, so it showed it that graphic.

568
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Speaker 2: Well, she had posted it or something.

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Speaker 4: She posted a picture her leg. Well, don't pull it up.

570
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Speaker 2: I saw it. I saw it on the socials and

571
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I tried to I tried to find it this morning. Yeah,

572
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and I couldn't find it. So I don't know if

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they got edited or what.

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Speaker 6: Dude, Guaranty he's gonna look at my search industry. This

575
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wanting to be like yo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, send her like dot com.

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Speaker 6: Random random, white guy dot com Lindsay von leg split open.

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We're gonna be like Taylor Lindsay von Legs split.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 6: I'm going through some stuff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, hey, hand in the air. What'd you say?

582
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Speaker 7: The other?

583
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Speaker 2: Chest op? Chestp chest up. I forgot to send Coach

584
00:25:24,839 --> 00:25:27,640
Mokey a little text will remind her. So we're gonna

585
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at the break here, we're gonna we're gonna call her. Okay,

586
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get her on.

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Speaker 4: For the best.

588
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Speaker 2: I hope for the best.

589
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Speaker 1: Text.

590
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do need to give her a little check,

591
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a little text.

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Speaker 5: Wit. She said you didn't have her number. I just

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sent it to you and I had just sent it to.

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Speaker 2: The text and sure. Yeah, So I will send her

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text and we are.

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Speaker 4: Going to Did you send it just now?

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Speaker 2: No? Because I'm talking right now.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well send it right now. I will fill the

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dead air space while you send her a text, because

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sending her a text right before we call her is

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not the move.

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Speaker 6: Get ready, get ready to coach. You're about to call

603
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you about forty.

604
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Speaker 5: So do you need me to text Jay Johnson today

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or do you do you need his number?

606
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Speaker 4: And do you want to tell?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: Do we could? Jake Clark is ready to go Friday.

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He knows Fridays are his thing.

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Speaker 6: Now, Friday's Jake Clark, Friday, j Clarkark, he claimed it.

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Speaker 5: Jay Johnson is supposed to come on tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to text him or do you need

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me to?

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Speaker 2: I'll text him.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Well you're going to get him tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: His number right now, you're gonna get.

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Speaker 2: It's mostly not my job. The texting is usually Jake

618
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does it. So you know Dad's not here this week.

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Speaker 5: I told you when Jake leaves it, his mom left

620
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the kids home with dad.

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Speaker 2: Energy all right, we're going to see. If we don't,

622
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we will try to. It might not be next segment,

623
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but we will do our best here.

624
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Speaker 4: Stick with us here, were were already breaking.

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Speaker 2: The integrity. I like it, yeah, right off the pitch.

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Speaker 1: Off the bench. Off the bench presented by Hood Dental and.

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Speaker 2: Had you wing.

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Speaker 1: Busy?

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back here off the bench. Wednesday shows

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Taylor said he last went to Hoo Dental fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I went to Hidental though. It was a great experience.

637
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I test that. Guys. Yeah, saw me the late text.

638
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I have not heard back. We're going to try to

639
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get coach kim Olki on the show at some point. Yeah,

640
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,720
we are going to wait here. We just didn't want

641
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,839
to call her out of the blue without a confirmation

642
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text first, so we will uh try to get here

643
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on the line. And that's all me. Guess you didn't

644
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want a cold call you, Well, I just think I

645
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didn't want a cold call.

646
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Speaker 5: You subconsciously did this because you're scared to interview her.

647
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Speaker 2: No, no, you got to make up for.

648
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Speaker 6: Your confusion class that you are scared.

649
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Speaker 4: No intimidate.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little intimidated. I gotta be honest.

651
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Speaker 4: Feels like it stems from a place of fear.

652
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Speaker 2: No, I don't have fear mhm, just nerves. H fear Not.

653
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Speaker 6: You just want to be you want to be great

654
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for coaches, she's great.

655
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Speaker 5: Fear of not being great? It all stems from fear. Mm,

656
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:22,640
fear of embarrassing yourself.

657
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Speaker 2: Just a little intimidated. Okay, because I have so much

658
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respect for her.

659
00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:29,839
Speaker 4: You respect her so much, you're scared of her.

660
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Speaker 2: No, No, not scared. She's very nice.

661
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Speaker 1: She is.

662
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Speaker 2: So maybe maybe subconsciously, Yeah, I really did. I was

663
00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:46,480
trying to forget to say her number last time. That's

664
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on me again, chest out, that's on me. Guys. We're

665
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still learning. This is you know, we've we've done the

666
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foxhole enough, the tripod, the tripod, we've done it a

667
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good amount of times. So we're still learning. There's kinks

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to work out, guest thing not my strong point. Plenty

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to pelicanroof dot com. Some interesting stuff happening in college

698
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sports right now. College football. Certainly, we watched the drama

699
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play out with Trinidad Chambliss over at Old Miss trying

700
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to get his I've never seen a player not want

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to go to the NFL so bad than Trinidad Chambliss.

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Of course, I think it was denied six times, is

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that right? Six times for you know, for obvious reasons. Finally,

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some some local court decided to grant him that extra year. Certainly,

705
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it's something that NCAA has has fought and tried to

706
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fought but has not been successful. We saw it last

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year with Diego Pavia getting an extra year of eligibility. Well,

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recently we saw NCAA finally got a win. I got

709
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:11,359
an old notch on the belt. Joey Aguilar with Tennessee

710
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,119
he was seeking the same type of extension as Diego Pavia. Now,

711
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which differs a little bit from from Trinidad Chandels's case,

712
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:24,680
because it wasn't you know, it wasn't a JUCO situation. Well,

713
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,640
Joey Aguilars was, and it was very similar to that

714
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,119
of Diego Pavia. But the court's rule that he does

715
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,720
not they did not grant him an extra year of eligibility,

716
00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:37,400
and the same thing is happening right now with or

717
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,880
a similar type situations happening with Virginia quarterback Chandler Morris,

718
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:47,039
who was seeking a seventh year, seventh year as quarterback,

719
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,240
and he's twenty five years old. At some point, these

720
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,440
guys just, I know the money is there in college

721
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,480
football now. I know there's life changing money to be

722
00:32:56,559 --> 00:33:00,319
made as well. And I think that there's a lot

723
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:02,880
of people, especially with the Joey Aguilar case at Tennessee,

724
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,359
saying this is good, this is n c A A

725
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,799
good for you, you got one, But it also doesn't

726
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:13,480
make sense because the precedent has already been set. Why

727
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,720
is it. Why is the playing field and the rules

728
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:18,039
different from one person that is another Now, I don't know,

729
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,400
and I don't know if anybody really knows. Like the minute,

730
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,440
the minutia of all the details of the case of

731
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,759
you know what, Diego Pavia was arguing about his JUCO

732
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:32,519
experience compared to Joey Aguilar's, like, we don't know those

733
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:35,720
specific details, but when you look at it from an

734
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,720
overhead view, you look at it as a as a

735
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,839
as a whole, they look really similar. So why is

736
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,160
it different from one person to another? And I think

737
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,799
we all want the NCAA to have more power. We

738
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,880
all we all want the the bumpers a little bit

739
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,319
more guard rails on college football. College football is a mess.

740
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,119
It's still a beautiful game. It's a beautiful sport when

741
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:01,279
the lights go on and the balls kicked off, But

742
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,240
in between those moments, it's an absolute disaster right now.

743
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,079
So we want those guardrails. But why is it different

744
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,000
between one case to the next. And I don't have

745
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:17,440
that answer for you. It just adds on to most

746
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,960
people's opinion on that college football is absolutely drunk and

747
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,159
there's nobody knows what's going on. Nobody knows what the

748
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,000
exact rules are. What do y'all think? What do y'all think?

749
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:30,440
What's the difference do you do you know any specific

750
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,199
differences between Joey Aguilar's case and Diego Pavia. It's it's the.

751
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 6: Same, which is why I always thought he was going

752
00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:39,400
to get eligibility, Like I didn't think Trinidad Shambla's had

753
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,239
a leg to stand on. He played at Farri State

754
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,679
for three years, that's under the NCAAA umbrella. Plays at

755
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,760
Old miss that's four years. Boom, move on. Like they

756
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,880
ruled last year, junior college is not under the NCAA umbrella,

757
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:55,119
you can get an extra year. Diego Pavia did so

758
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,440
all of a sudden. Joey Aguilar, who played two years

759
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,119
at Apple Atta in State, played one year at Tennessee.

760
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,599
That's three years under the NCAA umbrella. Before that, he

761
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:09,400
played at Diablo Valley Community College, which is in Juco,

762
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,280
but his Juco counts in Diego. Pobvius doesn't. Why now,

763
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,000
I'll give the Joey Aguilar, Diablo Valley, Diablo Valley.

764
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,599
Speaker 2: The Devil's Valley.

765
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,039
Speaker 6: It is, it is, and maybe maybe that's what the

766
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:24,400
issue was. But I'll give him credit. He actually signed

767
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,119
up for the combine. What he was planning on doing

768
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,719
was participated in the combine for a forty eight hour window.

769
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,239
That way, if he would have became eligible, he still

770
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,800
could have went back. He'll probably participated in full five days.

771
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,199
Speaker 2: Now say that again, he could you could go to

772
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,159
the combine for forty eight hours, eight.

773
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,559
Speaker 6: Hour window while waiting for his appeal. Because anything beyond that,

774
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,280
if he would have stayed in the NFL combine, beyond that,

775
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,119
he would have been ineligible.

776
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:53,119
Speaker 2: He would have been like declared a professional. Correct forty

777
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:55,280
you can go forty eight hours at the Combine without

778
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,760
being a professional.

779
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 6: Apparently so, but now he's probably going to participate that

780
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:03,119
so credit to him for not being scared to go

781
00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:05,360
to the NFL. He actually signed up for the combine.

782
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,119
But I mean, you let Diego Pavia get an extra

783
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:11,960
year of eligibility and basically the exact same circumstances, you

784
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:15,519
let Trinidad Shambliss hang around just because what you feel

785
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:17,639
bad for Ole Miss because they lost Lane Kiffin and

786
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:20,559
they needed a win. Like, I don't really understand how

787
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,000
you give both of those guys elgibent. I'm good with

788
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:25,480
the NCAA getting a win. I think the NCAA should

789
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,400
get a lot more wins, But the fact that you

790
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,039
give it to two guys and not the other one,

791
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:31,119
it's just kind of confuse it.

792
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,639
Speaker 5: Like I was gonna say, I don't know what the

793
00:36:33,679 --> 00:36:36,679
difference I'm trying to like read up on it with

794
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,000
Pavia and Aguilar is. The difference of Trinidad Chambliss is

795
00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:41,960
that he found a judge that was an All Miss fan.

796
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,840
That's what the difference of Trinidad. Chambliss was and he

797
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,760
wasn't a Juco guy.

798
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:49,199
Speaker 4: No, right, he wasn't, which like makes it worse.

799
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:51,039
Speaker 2: To stand.

800
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:54,519
Speaker 4: But as for Pavia and Aguilar, I'm not really.

801
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:58,639
Speaker 5: They do have like the basically the same argument, so

802
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:01,480
I guess they were. Really he just depends on that.

803
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,199
That's who you get as a judge.

804
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: See, that's what I would, Yeah, because like if something happens,

805
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,639
like in a federal quarter or state court, and there's

806
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:11,280
a ruling based on something, there's precedent set and that's

807
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,159
how it goes until if something crazy happens and a

808
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,440
case is proven that resets that. President and la. Look,

809
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:20,599
you're an attorney out there. What I might come off

810
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,320
as an idiot here, but they were. I'm assuming that

811
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,719
they were both courts in the state of Tennessee. Now

812
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,320
maybe Pavia's court case was somewhere else, but I'm pretty

813
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,360
sure is Tennessee right now.

814
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure there was because he filed his first

815
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:35,679
year after he played a vantitae. Because here's a Vandy

816
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,679
two years remember, So like, yeah, everyone said, oh, well,

817
00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:41,119
this could be a state by state basis. This doesn't

818
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:42,920
necessary you have to be a national thing. In the

819
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,639
same damn state.

820
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,119
Speaker 2: Well that and that, well that at that point is

821
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:47,320
it a county by county?

822
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,679
Speaker 5: Basically I'm thinking too because like the obviously Joey Aguilars

823
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,840
in Knoxville and then Nashville for Diego Pavia.

824
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: So I'm I mean, I don't know, it must be it's.

825
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:01,679
Speaker 2: Stupid, right, Like I don't like the I don't want

826
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,079
to use that word. I tell my kids not to

827
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,159
use that word. But like it's really dumb.

828
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 6: It's stupid.

829
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: There is just makes me more mad about college football

830
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:12,800
right now.

831
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,599
Speaker 6: Even when you think there's precedence and rules, they're still

832
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:20,159
just going to change it anytime they feel like, oh,

833
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,480
it's kind of fun for us to do that.

834
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: Let's know that. Yeah, that judge was a not a

835
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,159
volunteer fan.

836
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 6: Well, and credit to Tennessee, like they got Georgia mcintter

837
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,760
who's been developing there. They brought in Ryan Stabb, who

838
00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:36,280
did visit LSU. I guess you just went to Tennessee

839
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,199
because he thought there was a better chance of him

840
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:39,599
to be a starter. So they had a little bit

841
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:42,800
of contingency plans preparing for this. It's so did agular,

842
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,239
but it's just find me the rhym of reason, bond

843
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:46,639
the whole thing.

844
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,639
Speaker 2: Yep. About Chandler Morris.

845
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:53,679
Speaker 4: Seventh year or just put the fries in the bag.

846
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 6: And you know, Matt, I hate to pick on your

847
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,320
former position, but like, can these quarterbacks move the hell

848
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,760
the one? It's all a quarterback.

849
00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: It's all about the quarterback.

850
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 6: I mean, but like, move on.

851
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 2: Life's about quarterbacks. Bud twenty five, seventh year. I'm assuming

852
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,199
there's a COVID year there still.

853
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,559
Speaker 6: And then twenty twenty two he apparently filed for a

854
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:18,199
medical and didn't get it back when he was a TCU.

855
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:20,039
I talked about a little bit last week. There's a

856
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:22,840
guy who plays a linebacker from Montana. He got a

857
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,639
ninth year of eligibility because he had like four season

858
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,000
or four or five season Indian injury. So this is

859
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:32,960
his ninth year. He'll be tenured at the University of Montana.

860
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,800
Before he leaves, he's teaching classes there.

861
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: Huh. The only one that I can potentially give an

862
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,239
excuse to is Trinidad Chambliss, because I think I brought

863
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,480
this up before a couple of weeks ago. I know

864
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,800
that the emotional reaction, the knee jerk reaction of ole

865
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,760
Miss fans and boosters, certainly the people that are given money,

866
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,599
that are guaranteeing all this money. The emotion reaction to

867
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:03,599
Lane Kiffin leaving would be like whatever it takes, like

868
00:40:03,679 --> 00:40:06,760
you have my full support, you have my full checkbook.

869
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:09,360
I'll do whatever I can to keep it. And then,

870
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,480
especially when they're talking about your star quarterback leaving to

871
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:15,519
join Lane, they're like, whatever it takes, whatever amount of

872
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:17,880
money it is, there's not enough commas that are gonna

873
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,280
let him go to LSU. Like I could see that

874
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,199
plan out and them saying, look, Trinidad, we are going

875
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:25,639
if you don't go to LSU, we're gonna give you

876
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:28,880
ten million plus. I could see that happening. Like it

877
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,599
sounds like a far fetched number, but I can see

878
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:36,920
in the emotional windfall after Lane Kiffin leaves and the

879
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,800
rumor the rumors were everywhere Trinidad's going to LSU, he's

880
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,440
gonna be talking to if he gets his extra year,

881
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,559
blah blah blah. I can see them saying Nope, We're

882
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:46,320
gonna do whatever it takes. And the rumors of Miami

883
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,239
trying to offer Tye Simpson seven million to stay in

884
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,039
college and go to Miami, and he turned it down.

885
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,679
But like that number is starting to tick up, at

886
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,480
least from the rumors. I don't think any of that

887
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:00,920
was ever confirmed, but I could certainly see a situation

888
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:03,920
where a ten million plus number, and so at that

889
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,320
point I can say, Okay, yeah, Trinidad, go fight your

890
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,440
court battles, go six, get the night six times, to

891
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:13,239
keep trying, because that's a big number. Especially the kid

892
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,760
that age confidence certainly thinks he can improve or at

893
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,480
least perform at the same level that he did towards

894
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,960
the end of the season and slid ify himself as

895
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,679
a first round pick next year. So that is an

896
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,039
understandable city. I think we can all agree that I'm

897
00:41:26,039 --> 00:41:28,760
fighting so especially not paying for these court battles. I'll

898
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,039
fight them if I'm gonna get ten million plus. Of

899
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:33,719
course that's not a it hadn't been reported. I'm just

900
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,880
saying I could see a world in which that number

901
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,880
was floated around. In the emotional backlash from Lane Kiff,

902
00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:41,480
I mean, just.

903
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 6: Go to the league. Though, like you were like, oh,

904
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,280
he could be a first round pick next year. He

905
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,719
could have been a first round pick this year. It

906
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,559
could as if they suck. They have a brand new

907
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:49,519
coaching staff. We don't know, but it might be guaranteed

908
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:52,800
ten million plus. That's i'd like to see. I'd love

909
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,400
to be a fly on the wall in those conversations.

910
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,119
I'm gonna go to break here.

911
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna try to keep our Clark can tell you

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be right back right here, off the bench.

929
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Speaker 1: Off the bench, holidays main, I can get off the

930
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bench presented by hood Dental.

931
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back here, off the bench. Closing out

932
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hour number two Wednesday, show brought you about hood Dental.

933
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934
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Speaker 6: Hit me.

935
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Speaker 2: Coach kim ok, he's gonna be joining the show at nine.

936
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Let's go.

937
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Speaker 6: I knew you could do it.

938
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Speaker 2: I know we did it. Guess we did?

939
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Speaker 6: Didould give her a little thing? It's like coach check

940
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yes or no?

941
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Speaker 2: Check yes or no?

942
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Speaker 7: Or maybe she did not click the maybe she said yes.

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It's official official, It's official official. Hey, who's the Who's

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the best player been so far? I know it's tough

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after last night? Who's the Who's your way? Too early?

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After how many games? Eight games baseball LSU baseball? Seven games?

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Speaker 6: I mean he's the best player so far, my best

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I mean Dardur has succeeded everybody's expectations.

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Speaker 2: Orys had a lot of homers.

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Speaker 6: Jack Brown been great well.

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Speaker 5: Not only that about York being good at the plate,

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like he has been solid.

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Speaker 4: At first base, like very solid.

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Speaker 2: Fo Dingers.

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Speaker 6: All the Cooper more just because starting pitchon has been

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really good.

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Speaker 4: That's a good question. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna close that out number two when

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we come back. Coach Kim Molk, you joined the show

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right here, off the bench, Off the bench,