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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks.

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Speaker 4: Fantasy Hockey Live once again. Jesse Severe, Victor Nuno. I

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am of fan Tracks. I guess I should say, Victor Nunio,

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the Fantasy hockey doctor of Dabber Hockey. How you doing today, Victor?

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Speaker 3: I am doing awesome. Jesse, how are you doing, my friend?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good. Man, I'm doing good. I'm I'm ready.

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Is this is this our last team preview? I forget

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the release schedule? I think is the last one to record?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, we did it. We finally got to the end.

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It's when we started. We started prepping this way back

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in April, and I think we recorded our first one

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at the end of April. So it's been a long road.

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It's fun, but also yeah, it's a bit of a grind,

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so it feels like an accomplishment to do all thirty two.

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Speaker 4: It is an accomplishment, man, and this is my annual.

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Let's give Victor a slow clap for doing this, getting

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all thirty two guests together, because that is Yeoman's work.

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That is outstanding stuff. Man. I always appreciate you for that.

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But I think everybody should appreciate Victory. I think we

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should all appreciate Victor a little bit. Why don't everybody

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go into the Fantasy Hockey Life discord, give Victor a

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little pat on the back, give him a thumbs up,

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just anywhere, just post memes of Victor. I don't know

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what you're gonna do. Just be creative because it's an

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appreciation of Victor time. And you can get into that

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about your drafts.

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Speaker 1: So maybe that.

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Speaker 4: Would be a relevant topic since it's the height of

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draft season right now. And to do that, you just

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give us an email. Fantasy Hockey Life at gmail dot com.

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There's stuff popping up in there every day, a few

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hundred people involved, and it's free, did I mention free,

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And it's a place to talk about all recruit people.

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There's still time to do a draft. Why not get

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in there and say, hey, people, you want to set

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up a leak, want to get together, set up a

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dynasty league. There's still time for all that, But Victor,

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that's not the only thing that people can do at

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this time of year. What else might they be tempted by?

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Speaker 3: They might be attempted by all the bonus content that's there.

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There's a bunch of player cards on the website for ultralifers.

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That's one of the best things. You can look at

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all the preperle contribution of each player. You can look, well,

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how good they are at play, driving, fighting, puck battles,

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things like that, things that are hard to see in

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all these leagues for all these players. You can also

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look at my tiers and ranks for all the prospects

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under a hundred games played. And then there's other cool

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, we'll be right back after this to talk

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Tampa Bay Lightning. Welcome back to the show. Eric erlandson

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of Lightning Ininsider dot com, our man on the beat

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of the Tampa Bay Lightning.

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Speaker 2: How you doing today, Eric, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: It's the fact that we're talking means that hockey season

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is right around the corner, and it's always an exciting

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time of year for me. This is gonna be year

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twenty five, twenty six. It's so much I've lost count

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on what I'm doing, but this is always what the

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beginning part of September means to me, at least for

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the last number of years.

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Speaker 4: That's outstanding. Yeah, that's a long time to be covering

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an NHL team, man, kudos on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for the reminder that I'm old.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you, me and everybody at this point. But if

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those of our listeners are old and have been watching

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the Lightning for a long time, if you're really old,

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you probably remember some hard times. But the Lightnings have

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bad more good than bad, to be honest. For the

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eighth straight year and the eleventh time in twelve, the

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Lightning made the playoffs. A lot of franchises would love

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to have just that. Unfortunately, for the third straight year

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after their Stanley Cup level success, they did not pass

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the first round last year, and for the second straight

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year they never made it outside of Florida in the

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playoffs because, unfortunately, their cross state rivals suddenly are real good. Actually,

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their goal differential from last year suggests they might have

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been unlucky in some ways. During the regular season, they

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were first in goals for and fourth best in goals against.

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Their penalty kill allowed the least goals the smallest number

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goals against the PDO gods. Of course you say that,

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but the PDO gods could be angry at the Lightning

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since they had second in shooting percentage and best in

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our second in save percentage. Those things sometimes don't last.

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We're gonna be talking about it somewhat aging team today.

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The salary cap, the winner's curse of being so good

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for so long has come hard for the Bolts. What

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the Lightning watchers take from last year and is the

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window still open for this team?

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Speaker 1: I think people who watched the Lightning from a fan perspective,

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their takeaway is frustration. Because you just touted all those

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regular season numbers. You thought, Okay, they're back, right, They're

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gonna be a team to contend with. Unfortunately, they ran

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into the Florida Panthers once again, and Matthew Kachuck comes back,

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and the salary cap situation, which the league is apparently

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going to fix heading into this start of this season.

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ec Blat injury allowed them to go out and get

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Seth Jones, so they were a much stronger team than

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even during the regular season the Panthers were, and the

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Lightning just ran into a as we saw a team

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that just forced their way through the Eastern Conference once

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again and ended up being the Stanley Cup champions. The

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way the playoff format is set up, sometimes you're gonna

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get this situation where you have a pretty strong division

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like the Atlantic Kids. But you see all those numbers

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and highest scoring team in the league, and even without

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Steven Stamkos there, the power play was still efficient in

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terms of the number of goals they scored and the

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percentage that they had. But you run into the Panthers

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and you hit a wall. I guess in a ways

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and a lot of ways that's true. You go back

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to the aironec blad hit on Brandon Hegel in Game

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three and the hit from Matthew could shock on Jay

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Gensel at the end of Game three. They literally ran

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into a brick wall in some ways facing the Panthers

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in that series. But as the window closed, I don't

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think so. You mentioned an aging team, and certainly Kuchirofv

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is now into his early thirties and Vasilewski is into

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his early thirties. Brandon Hagel's what twenty five years old,

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and Anthony Cerelli is still only twenty seven years old.

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They still have some players that are key contributors on

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this team that are still in their prime. Although the

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big part of their core is the Koutrovs, the Headmans,

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the McDonald's, the Vasilewski's. Even Brighton point has reached the

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age of thirty now at this point in his career,

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I think that there is still optimism. There's certainly a

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lot of internal optimism. And I think if you look

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at the offseason moves or lack of moves that the

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Lightning did, they believe in this team and they believe

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that they can be a contender. It's just on the

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NHL sometimes it just doesn't go your way. There's so

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much parody in the league that, Okay, they have been

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knocked out in the first round for three straight years.

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Speaker 2: There's no denying that. That's a fact. You can't get

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Speaker 1: But the funny thing is in twenty twenty two, when

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they beat the Maple Leafs in the first round, the

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Leafs were the better team. The Lighting just found a

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way to win it in seven games. And the next

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year against the Leafs, you look at the stats, the

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Lighting were the better team, but they lost four of

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those games in overtime and get knocked down in the

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first round. That's just how close it can be sometimes.

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And I think with the Lightning have proven, even going

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back to twenty nineteen when they were swept by Columbus,

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they don't react emotionally to situations. They react more analytically

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and take a step back and look at things and

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take that kind of a perspective. But I think that's

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what's helped guide them to continue to be one of

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the top teams in the league still despite the fact

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that they have lost in the first round three consecutive years.

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Speaker 4: And I didn't somehow this didn't register with me. Have

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Florida and Tampa played in the first round for the

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last five years, that's freaking crazy. Lightning won a couple

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of those before Florida started. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Two, it was the second round though, so it was

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the second twenty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, second round. Yeah, he may be aging a little bit,

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but it's pretty hard to say that Niakuda Kucharov is

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anything but at the peak of his powers. He missed

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four games last year and still won his second straight

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art ross his third total. How do you miss four

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games that still do that? This future Hall of Famer

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just put it in black ink topped the power play

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count in the league with forty three, passing Nathan McKinnon

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by five power play point count. I should say there

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are not signs of decline. I could see he has

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the kind of game that makes it difficult even to

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ask a very intelligent question of you, Eric, except to say,

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could he do another one hundred and twenty points this year?

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Is he? Is there any sign that there's the client

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Speaker 1: This guy, No, not anytime soon. Just the way that

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he works at his craft. And the thing that I

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love about watching in Nikita Kutcherrov play is you have

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to watch Nikita kutcher ofv play because he's so subtle

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in his brilliance and how he can see the game

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and some of the plays that he makes and pulls off.

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And I've made this sort of comparison one hundred times.

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you right, because their speed, their acceleration, the stuff that

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they can do at a high pace of play.

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Speaker 2: Nikita Kutrov is the opposite.

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Speaker 1: He slows the game down, specifically in his mind, to

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the point where you have to go back and watch

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something on re play to understand what it was you

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just saw. That's just how subtle his brilliance is. But

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he works at it. When he talked to us in

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the media at the end of last season, because his

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quote unquote camp koucher Off has become quite strong down

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in this area, to the point where he's back on

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the ice probably maybe a week and a half two

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weeks later, if not a week after.

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Speaker 2: The end of the season, working on stuff.

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Speaker 1: Watch the guy pull pucks off of his backhand off

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the wall. Nobody does it better than Nikidita Kutrov. That's

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how he can make such great subtle plays. But it's

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something he works at. He will work out in a summer.

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He will take one hundred, one hundred and fifty pucks

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a day rimming off the wall off his backhand on

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the right side, especially on the power play, to make

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those kind of plays. When you have that sort of

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maniacal dedication to improving and getting better every day, even

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where he's at in his career. No, I don't see

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Nikita Kutrov slowing down, especially when you got a guy

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like Jay gensel Now on your line. For the most part,

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he's such a smart player. Knows where to get, how

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to get there, how to be in the right position.

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He figured that out pretty quick, even going back to

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the preseason to be able to play with Nikita Kutrov

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and bradon point to certainly figure that out. And you

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look at the offensive talent on this team. As long

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as Nikita Kutrov has playmakers and finishers to set up,

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they're going to finish plays that he makes because they're

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just accustomed to playing with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the next guy we're going to talk about,

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Brandon Hegel. He had a breakout season, putting up thirty

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five goals ninety points. He also had career highs and shots,

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blocks and time on ice. His bash is pretty good,

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block shots and hits four point two to one, ranking

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him one hundred and sixty fifth, which is really good

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for someone getting ninety points. And since arriving in Tampa,

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he's increased his scoring by first ten points and then

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now fifteen point pace. So Eric, do you think the

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twenty six sherild has another gear? Can he turn ninety

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into one hundred and continue to improve or is this

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about where he's going to be or possibly even regress.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about regress. I think one hundred might

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be pushing it a little bit because he's not a

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highly offensive player. In a couple of years that he's

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been here, we have seen his passing ability come through,

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like he's turned himself into a pretty good playmaker. We've

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seen some of the passes he makes, and you don't

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think of Brandon Hagel as that type of player, but he's.

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Speaker 2: Worked at it.

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Speaker 1: And it's probably a little Tikida Kutrov rubbing off on

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a lot of guys that come through this locker room

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and the ways that they can pass and understand that

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the game can be a little bit different in how

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you view it.

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Speaker 2: But you look at those numbers.

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Speaker 1: Had I think he had to have led the league

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in empty net goals, right, I don't know that number

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off the top of my head, but I think it

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was seven or eight of those goals were empty netters.

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The fact that all thirty five goals were scored either

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shorthanded or even strength. He did not have one power

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play goal. He could certainly be more productive on the

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power play because he does see some decent power play time.

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He split his time between the first and the second

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unit throughout last season as they tried to find somebody

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to take over that left circle spot that Steven Stamko's

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vacated so he could up his power play production. Him

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and Anthony Cirelli was certainly a major threat shorthanded. It

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felt like every time those two were on the ice

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together they created an opportunity shorthanded that aspect, you expect

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to still be there because of the chemistry those two

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guys have. But thirty five goals I think is probably

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about the ceiling from Brandon Hagel.

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Speaker 2: I could be wrong.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a really good projection guy, but just based

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on the way that he plays and knowing that he's

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on the ice for all those empty nets. Now, look,

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there's a reason you're on the ice at the end

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of games, protecting leads, right, so you get those opportunities.

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And certainly talked about Alex Ovechkin in that way a

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lot throughout his career, but I think hegel with what

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we've seen and the improvements that you mentioned point wise,

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And there's so much to love about Brandon Hegel's game,

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and he's one of those younger players that are part

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of a core now that are going to continue to

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get better. I just don't know if reaching one hundred

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point mark is something that's necessarily going to be in

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his repertoire.

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Speaker 4: Still, man that Brandon Hagel. I'm old enough to remember

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when they traded the Blackhawks for Hagel and everybody thought

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they were crazy. Are you really just throwing in all

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your chips on this guy just because he had a

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good half season. I guess they know what they're doing

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down there, braidon Point. They also knew what they were

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doing when they took bradon Point in what the third

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round a couple or many years back now, and his

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elite career continues a pace. For the third straight year,

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he was over a point per game, So I want

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to be picky. It was a slight slip from prior

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to two years in terms of point pace, but still elite. Ordinarily,

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one would call out regression for a player who led

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the NHL in shooting percentage at twenty two point two percent. However,

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on Hockey Reference, his career eighteen point eight shooting percent

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also leads all active in the NHL. So what are

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you gonna do? Point combined Bing and Selki votes last year,

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which is always really impressive to me how you could

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do both and point is locked in with Kutcherov, and

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so you mentioned Jake Gnzel, who will get to in

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a minute. Is this gonna stay a line a team

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like this or are they ever gonna want to break

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up that scoring and his point gonna have another similar

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or even back to the two prior years level season

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in the upcoming year.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason to think he won't continue this because,

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as we've talked about with Nikita Kuchrov as Nikita, as

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long as Nikita Kutrov continues to be the playmaker that

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he will be and that it's gonna land him in

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the Hall of Fame one day, Braiden Point is gonna

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be productive, whether it's the power play, whether it's five

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on five. We talked about Kucherov being a subtle brilliance.

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Braidon Point is a silent goal scorer like you think

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of fifty goal scorers in recent years. There's probably not

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a lot of people are gonna come up with Braiden

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Point's name, but he hit that mark a couple years

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ago because he's got his release is so quick, and

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certainly he made a living in that bumper spot on

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the power play, especially a couple of years ago when

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he lived the league in power play goals. So he

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has that weapon, that ability to get the puck offf quick.

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He doesn't have a big slap shot, but it's that

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quick release on the risk shot that he scores a

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lot of his goals. He's around the paint a lot,

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so he scores a lot of those type of goals

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as well. And yeah, as long as he's going to

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play with Nikita Krutrov, and those two have basically been

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paired for the past just five six years, not counting

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the COVID shortened season where Nikity Kutrov missed the entire

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regular seasons, there's no reason to think that the production

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value was still he's going to drop off much at

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all with Braydon Point, and those two are so in sync.

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Some guys just know how to play with elite players.

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Braydon Point knows how to play with an elite player

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like Nikita Krutrov.

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Speaker 3: We've already referenced him a little bit. And the next

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guy we're going to talk about, Jake Gonzil, his first

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year in Tampa is more of the same secondstive season

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with point ninety three points per game or higher timeline

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ice shots, power play points all around his career average.

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A couple things that were outliers. His shooting percentage was

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a bit higher than usual nineteen percent, and his hits

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dropped down from er point seventy two to point three

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to five so half. And I also noticed that Gainstil

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teems to bounce between ninety plus points seasons and then

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seasons closer to point per game, And if that holds true,

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that means next season will be above ninety, which Tampa

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Bay fans should be pretty happy about that. But what

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do you think we're gonna expect from Gainstel this season?

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Speaker 1: Eric, Again, you talk about guys who know how to

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play with elite players all those years playing with Sidney

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Crosby a different type of player than Nikita kucher Off,

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but smart players just know how to figure it out.

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And Gensel when anybody talks about Jay Goensel's game. I

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always talk about the hockey iq the understanding on you,

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because again, he's not going to dazzle you. He's not

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going to stick handle his way through three or four

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guys up the ice on a speed rush or anything

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like that. He's just around the net, and he knows

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where to find quiet spots around the net. People talked

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about Brett Hull in the way that he was able

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to just find those spots, and especially when he was

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working with Adam Oates, who could always find him in

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those areas. Denzil just knows how to be in those areas,

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and Nikita Kutrov knows how to find guys who are

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gonna find those areas. I don't think it's much of

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a coincidence that Gensil set a career high in goals

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his first year playing with Dakita Kutrov. Year two, I

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almost expect more goal production because he's going to have

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a deeper understanding of working with Nakita Kutrov. So you

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just mentioned he has the ninety points yiars as it

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seems to be higher the next year. I have no

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reason to think it won't be higher this year because

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Genseil is just that smart of a player and getting

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those opportunities to be alongside Nikita for a full season

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and see, because like I said, sometimes you got to

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see the way Nikita Kutrov plays on a daily basis

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to understand what he's about. And guys like Jake who

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grew up around the game and his dad was a

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coach and his dad's a scout. So he's one of

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those typical sons of an NHL player, of a hockey

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player that just know how to play the game. And

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there's no reason to think that Jake won't continue to

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get the number one power play time around the net

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where he found his niche on that top power play unit. Yeah,

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I expect his production to be even bigger this year

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than it was in a year one with Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 4: Talk about a guy who knows how to play with

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elite players, Jake Gnsel. Moving on Anthony Sirelli, he had

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a career year actually fifty nine points and one hundred

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and sixty shots, both career highs, career high ariverage time

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on ice. You got all those scores we're talking about,

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somebody's got to do the hard defensive pulling, and that

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seems to be Sirelli, he finished third, and Selki voting

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commensurate with his role. As I believe, as I'm looking

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at this, pretty much the most defensively deployed forward on

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the team or the most defensive zone shift starts among

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the players who had a significant minutes. He's got six

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more years of a decent contract for the Bulls. Like

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you say, he is, if anything, early prime or mid

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prime compared to some of the guys who were pushing thirty,

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like you say, because he's a couple of years younger.

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But that offense last year, the fifty nine points is

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particularly intriguing to those of us playing the fantasy game.

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He's also got a lot of blocks. Is this the

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offense we saw last year? In indication of a new

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level that Cirelli's fining. Could he be a sixty point

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man or do we just need to calm him down

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and think of Soirelli as a defensive master who's going

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to have the big role for the lightning and shut

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down opponents. Maybe get more like fifty points and that's

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his job. What do you think about Sorelli's future?

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Speaker 1: They need him to be a sixty point guy, as

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crazy as that is. The sound right, because they are

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the highest scoring team in the league. But when you're

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playing that basically second center line role, you need the

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offensive production and that was always the kind of thing

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that was holding him.

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Speaker 2: Back a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He'd always flirt with twinny goals, but he never got there.

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So you'd like to think that hitting that mark for

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the first time career will push him even further.

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Speaker 2: The thing that you maybe have to.

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Speaker 1: Worry a little bit about with Sorelli is a lot

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of that production came early in the year, right he

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was off to a hot start. He found an ability

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that maybe he didn't show before to get to that

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home plate area of the ice and get shots off quick.

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It's something Nick Paul does very well when he's in

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those areas. I think Sorelli has learned to do that.

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You look, a lot of those early season goals came

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from those areas and he found a shooter's touch right,

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you go bar down, but you hit those top corners.

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He was doing a lot of that early year. That

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kind of tailed off a little bit as the season

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went on, but they need him to be a productive

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guy because you can't rely on just Brayden point to

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be your scoring center. You need second line center production,

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which they hadn't gotten til last year from Anthony strellily.

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Speaker 2: On a consistent basis.

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Speaker 1: So you need him to be continue you to be

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the Selki candidate that he can be and will be,

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But you do need him to be You don't need

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him to be Patrice Bergeron, but you need him to

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be some version of a Patrise Bergeron type of player

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who can play second line minutes and create offense. And

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that's where the chemistry with Brandon Hagel comes into play,

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because those two do work so well together that you

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do need They're searching for another guy to play on

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the wing. Hegel's on the left, Sorelli's in the middle.

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They need somebody to be a consistent right wing threat

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for them on that line, and maybe that'll unlock maybe

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a little bit more. Maybe it'll be Oliver byork Strand

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in his first full season with Tampa Bay. We never

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got to see that last year after the trade. But

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with Sorelli, he needs to be an offensive threat on

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a more consistent basis. So you have to hope that

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the kind of year he had last year will lend

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itself to finally getting to that level to where he

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can be a consistent threat.

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Speaker 4: Bjork Strand is where we're going next with this team. Obviously,

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he's made his rounds through Columbus, Seattle and out down

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to Tampa. This was something he just noticed this and

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I looked it up. And when they traded for or

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when they got the Danish byork Strand, it made for

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the ninth nationality represented on the roster. I believe that

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tied the Chicago Blackhawks for the most international of all

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the NHL teams. He maintained after they got him. He

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did play a little bit toward the end of the season,

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like you said, on a lower line. He maintained his

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kind of half point per game pace that he was

476
00:23:27,799 --> 00:23:30,640
on last year for those eighteen games before an injury

477
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,279
against the Red Wings late in the season that took

478
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,200
him out for the postseason. He didn't get to play

479
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,599
against the Panthers. He is now thirty years old, in

480
00:23:38,759 --> 00:23:41,680
line with his team's age. At this point, he's on

481
00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:45,400
an expiring contract and he's more settled into this team.

482
00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:47,839
So what are you expecting. Is he going to be

483
00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:51,039
the third guy on that second line, and what kind

484
00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:53,160
of performance do you think they'll get out of him?

485
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: We only saw it in practice last year. We never

486
00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:59,359
actually saw it in the game him playing with Cirillian Hagel.

487
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,720
I think when they made that move they had that

488
00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:06,279
in mind, because again the entire season SAMs Stephen stank.

489
00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:12,960
They were looking for that other threat on the right side,

490
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,680
on the top two lines, and as any team does

491
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,880
throughout a season, you shuffle things around and try and

492
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,160
get good looks and good feels. But we never got

493
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,480
to that point with him, and then he was injured.

494
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,000
He didn't get to see him in the playoffs, where

495
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,720
he has proven to be a performer in years past,

496
00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:28,839
whether it was in the AHL or certainly the light

497
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,920
And remember all those goals you scored against them with

498
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,200
Columbus through the years. He can be a guy who's

499
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,880
a twenty five goal scorer on this team, He's going

500
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,720
to see some power play time. He scored in his

501
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,960
Lightning debut after the trade, and it was on a

502
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,359
play for Nikita Kutirov. So you talk about guys who

503
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,880
understand how to play with great players. I remember the

504
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,359
comments he made after the game. He had a chance

505
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,079
to leave in that area and he said, no, I

506
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,759
saw the puck on Nikita Kuchirov stick. I figured I'd

507
00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:59,480
better hang around than that something might happen. Sure enough,

508
00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:01,839
the punk found and end up scoring a goal in

509
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,759
that game. So he knows how to be around the

510
00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:06,720
net when things are in when he's in those areas,

511
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:09,519
to stick around and hang around and understand what might happen,

512
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,039
and just the anticipation that sometimes is a part of

513
00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:14,599
a player's instincts. I think they want him to be

514
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,079
a second line right wing guy, especially look at the

515
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,359
way that this roster is currently constructed, and we've been

516
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,799
going over the potential line combinations for the regular season,

517
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,160
and every time we come back to York strand second

518
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,039
line right wing. He came over with Yanni Gord last year,

519
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:31,519
and he played a lot with Yonni Gord after the trade.

520
00:25:31,559 --> 00:25:34,720
I think that's just the familiarity. Sometimes it can take

521
00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:39,640
certain players longer to adjust to new surroundings, and I

522
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,519
think Oliver was in that standpoint. And it's too bad

523
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:44,519
because you could see he was starting to feel more

524
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,200
comfortable right before the injury occurred. And hopefully that comfort

525
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:52,160
level that he was showing will continue with a full

526
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,160
training camp with this team and then bleed into the

527
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,559
regular season. And he can be a twenty to twenty

528
00:25:56,599 --> 00:25:58,079
five goal score in a second line role.

529
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to give you a pick em of some

530
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,160
depth forwards on this team. But this is a fun contrast.

531
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:07,319
This is this is like the movie Twins because I

532
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,720
make all eighties culture references yere Nick Paul, and Yanni Gord.

533
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,920
Yanni gordat great legend of early Lightnings teams or Lightning

534
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,359
teams from several years ago. Nick Paul, but undersize Nick Paul,

535
00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:24,599
great big feller who does a lot of physical things.

536
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,640
A little bit more physical for this team. And Paul

537
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,640
was good for about forty points last year. Yanni Gord,

538
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,640
who they did get steal back from Seattle to it's

539
00:26:34,839 --> 00:26:36,720
time to steal back from those crack and they've been

540
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:39,440
around long enough. He got a little over half a

541
00:26:39,519 --> 00:26:42,680
point per game last year. So of these two, which

542
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,200
one do you think is going to be more productive

543
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:44,720
next year?

544
00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: Nick Paul, you know, you look at just his overall game.

545
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,160
He's gonna get a lot of third line center minutes.

546
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,160
He'll get some time probably in a top two line.

547
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,720
He's very versatile. He can play wing, he can play center.

548
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:04,359
He transitions back and forth again and trying to look

549
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,680
at what the lines might look like. At the end

550
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,000
of the season. You had Nick Paul between Gage Gonsalves

551
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,480
and Connor Geeky when Connor Geeky came back up from Syracuse,

552
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,000
and they were a pretty good line. And one of

553
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:17,640
the things that the Lighting don't have a lot of

554
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:21,920
on their forward lines is size, right, five to eleven,

555
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:24,799
six foot maybe there's a guy six Brandon Hagel's list

556
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:26,759
is six foot two. He's not six foot two, right,

557
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:29,759
They don't have that type of size. Nick Paul has it,

558
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,200
Connor Geeky has it, So that can be a line

559
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,960
that was a force with some of that size, but

560
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,319
also they could score. Gage Gonsalves kind of took a

561
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,200
big step forward last year. He was a productive player

562
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,440
the latter half of the season. He might have been

563
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,279
their most consistent scoring forward in the series against the Panthers.

564
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:51,559
So if that's the third line with Paul, Geeky and Gonsolves,

565
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,680
then I think Nick Paul will be just as productive

566
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,079
as he was last year, whereas Jonny gord is probably

567
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,759
gonna be more of a fourth line type of center.

568
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:03,599
You look at Luke Lin Denning and not Re signing

569
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,720
Luke Lin Denning. I think Janni Gord probably slips right

570
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,160
into that role, so his minutes will be a little

571
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,599
bit more limited. Maybe he'll kill some more penalties. I

572
00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:14,200
don't know how much power play time Yanni Gord is

573
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,960
going to get, whereas Nick Paul can be a consistent

574
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,119
second power play unit guy, especially with some NetFront presence

575
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,720
with that size that he has. So if you're asking

576
00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:25,160
me to pick who will be more productive offensively between

577
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,960
those two, I think it's going to be Nickpole.

578
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,279
Speaker 3: Sounds good, and let's do another pick them newcomer Jacob

579
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,599
Peltier who bounced around from Calgary to Philly last year,

580
00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:37,319
and Connor Geeky, who you just mentioned a little bit.

581
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,519
Pelotier put up forty cur hies in forty nine games

582
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:44,200
with nineteen points between Calgary Philly. Geeky had fourteen and

583
00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:46,880
fifty two games during the rookie season at times looked

584
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:50,599
really good. Kik, he definitely has a size advantage, but

585
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,480
Pillotie has a little bit more experience and at least

586
00:28:54,519 --> 00:28:57,160
at times was thought to have some offensive upsides. What

587
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,839
do you think who think's going to get more points

588
00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,559
between these two?

589
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: I would go with Geeky as a lot of twenty

590
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:05,519
year olds will do. And there have been very few

591
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:09,559
guys in the Steve Eisman slash Julian breezeblat Era who

592
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,359
have skipped HL eligibility and jumped right in the NHL.

593
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,920
Geeky's one of them. But you could see by December

594
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,160
his game was starting to tail off. It's a big

595
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:24,359
jump going straight from junior into the NHL and the

596
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,519
riggers of having to go up against the size and

597
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,160
sometimes you're playing four games in a week and you

598
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,839
get back to backs. You could just see that it

599
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,599
was just taking its toll on him. So they sent

600
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:39,119
him down to Syracuse for a couple of months to

601
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:42,039
just find his confidence. And I think he had nine

602
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,400
goals and twelve games or fourteen games with the crunch,

603
00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:47,920
So he brought that confidence back up. And so I

604
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:50,000
just mentioned the fact that he was on a line

605
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:52,920
with Nick Paul Engaged Consolves for a good portion of

606
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:56,039
the latter half of the ladder, about six weeks of

607
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,079
the regular season, and they were very good together.

608
00:29:58,119 --> 00:29:59,119
Speaker 2: They were very productive.

609
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: So I think Connor geek he brings more of a

610
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,039
confident style of play, which is something he talked about

611
00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:07,799
a lot when he came back up from his stint

612
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,960
in the AHL last year. So I think that he's

613
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,960
going to be the guy that's going to get more opportunity,

614
00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:18,079
whereas here is he's almost a reclamation project in some ways, right,

615
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,200
But they have some thought on him, right They signed

616
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,480
him to a three year contract, so they believe that

617
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:25,039
there's something there that they can find and bring out.

618
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:27,759
And the Lightness certainly have a history of this with

619
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,599
players who may be considered a little bit smaller that

620
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,640
they can turn into productive players. Jonathan Marshall Show and

621
00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:37,960
Tyler Johnson and Yanni Gord, guys that are considered undersizes,

622
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:41,319
they found ways to get them confidence in anything else.

623
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,359
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting with Peltier whether.

624
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,319
Speaker 1: He starts in the NHL or they give him time

625
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:48,160
in the HL, if they can get him through waivers

626
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,000
at the end of training camp, if that's where he's at,

627
00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:53,359
if they can get him through So I think Geege

628
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,720
is going to get the opportunity from the start of

629
00:30:55,759 --> 00:31:00,680
the season, whereas Peltier might have to find a way

630
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,240
to earn his way into the lineup and then what

631
00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:05,039
kind of a role is he going to have? Right,

632
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,119
I knowing this team, he'll probably start in a fourth

633
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,039
line role, even though he's more of an offensive style

634
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,799
type of player. So I think Geeky probably has a

635
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,119
better opportunity to be more productive.

636
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:19,079
Speaker 3: Sounds good. Let's move over to the blue line. I'm

637
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:21,160
gonna start with Victor Headman. At thirty four years old,

638
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,039
Headman continued to put up offense close to career norms.

639
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,759
His first season at captain saw the lowest hits per

640
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:29,359
game at point four nine. He's still pretty great for

641
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:32,240
preferal though, his block shots and hits at four point

642
00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:34,000
four to eight, ranking him one hundred and twenty ninth

643
00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,359
and all skaters starting a new four year deal. What

644
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,200
does the future look like Headman? Is he going to

645
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,599
start slowing down anytime soon?

646
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: As long as Victor Hedman continues to skate for the

647
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:48,359
size that he has too right like you think he'd

648
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,119
be a lumbering skater, he glides across the ice, and

649
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440
Rick Bonus, when he was one of the assistant coaches here,

650
00:31:54,599 --> 00:31:56,519
talked about that all the time. He never had a

651
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:58,880
player that size skate the way that Victor Hedman does.

652
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,920
So it's such still such an asset to his game

653
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:06,160
and the fact that Ryan McDonough's return took some of

654
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:10,880
the overall responsibilities off of Victor Headman. He didn't have

655
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:12,720
to be the first guy over on the penalty kill,

656
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:14,920
he didn't have to be the first guy over at

657
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,440
the end of games to try and close out when

658
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,000
you have the lead late in the game.

659
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:21,519
Speaker 2: He could be a little bit more of Victor Headman.

660
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: It's probably why the hits numbers went down a little

661
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:25,920
bit because he wasn't being asked to do that on

662
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,400
a work on that type of a basis, especially two

663
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,880
years ago when Mikhail Sergachev was injured right and there,

664
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,279
they really didn't have much depth on the left side

665
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:37,480
behind Headman. After that, he took on a lot of

666
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,599
resp responsibility two years ago with the minutes and everything else.

667
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,000
That kind of eased off a little bit and allowed

668
00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:45,559
him to be the offensive player that he can be

669
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,119
in certainly number one power play time playing with that

670
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:52,079
top power play unit, which even though the Lightning's power

671
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:54,960
play finished twenty five percent to top five in the league.

672
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,720
I think internally they would tell you it was a

673
00:32:56,759 --> 00:33:00,200
little inconsistent at times, but he was a consistent right

674
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,079
up there. I think what we would actually like to

675
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:04,640
see out of Victor is shooting the puck more right.

676
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:07,880
He doesn't, probably doesn't shoot the puck enough from the point,

677
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:10,559
especially in the power play, to be that guy. Because

678
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:12,039
he's got a hard shot, he's got a one hundred

679
00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:14,759
nine hours shot. He probably would like to see him

680
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,160
use it a little bit more often. So I'm continue

681
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,559
to see as long as Ryan McDonough continues to be

682
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:25,519
the solid professional defenseman that Ryan McDonough is, then that's

683
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:27,599
going to allow Victor Hedman to maybe take a couple

684
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,759
of less minutes per game, which is going to help

685
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:30,519
his overall game.

686
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:35,039
Speaker 4: Next, we've got Darren Radish, one of the great Radish

687
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:38,599
brothers here. He debuted late in his career. He's already

688
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,920
twenty nine and hasn't been around it seems like all

689
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,240
that long, but he continues to grow into a larger

690
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:45,920
role with this team. Seems like a decent deal to

691
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,519
play with Victor Headman. By the way, that's probably not

692
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,759
a bad way to get yourself a couple of secondary

693
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:55,640
points and make yourself a nice impact. His role with Headman, however,

694
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:57,519
is that even strength, he doesn't play a whole lot

695
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:01,319
of special teams seventeen eighteen average time on ice. He

696
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:05,240
also doesn't get too many peripheral type stats. Thirty seven

697
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:07,519
points in seventy three games, more than half a point

698
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:11,159
per game, pretty nice for defenseman. And he's got excellent

699
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:15,400
goals above replacement. He's second among the team defenseman and

700
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,519
number one is not Victor Headman in terms of the

701
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:23,519
goals above replacement metrical burn Evolving hockey. But where's Radish's

702
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,079
place on this team? Is he sort of Headman's steady

703
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:31,039
partner or could he somehow sneak himself into some kind

704
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:32,719
of different role. What do you think and how was

705
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,239
his play? What do you think of mister Radish.

706
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: He's interesting to keep an eye on this year because

707
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,440
they ran a lot of seven and eleven at the

708
00:34:41,519 --> 00:34:44,920
end of last year's seven defenseman eleven forwards, But a

709
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,400
lot of that was because of Radish's improved play. When

710
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,360
the season started and they had the seven defenseman, he

711
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,480
was basically the odd guy out to start the year.

712
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,719
He was the one that was scratched more consistently than

713
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,320
anybody else, but the JJ Moser got hurt in December

714
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,880
and he didn't come back until after the Four Nations

715
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,199
break so that allowed Radish to get into the lineup

716
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,639
on a more consistent basis, and that's where you saw improvements.

717
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,199
The thing with Darren, the offense has always been there.

718
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,840
That's always been the strength of his game, going back

719
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,679
to his junior days playing on some of those Powerhouse

720
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,119
Eerie teams. He's not a great defender, but he's improved

721
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,000
even at now twenty nine. I think that's what's allowed

722
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:32,840
him to stay with the Lightning and see some ice

723
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,440
time as this improved defensive play, and if that improved

724
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,000
defensive play continues, he'll see some time now where he

725
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:42,559
plays that's a good question because for a good portion

726
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:46,079
of the year when Moser was healthy, he was the

727
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:49,199
left shot d playing the right side with Victor Hedman,

728
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,880
and Radish was rotating with that third pairing that included

729
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,440
a Mill Lilliberg and then Nick Perbicks. This year will

730
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,079
be Max Krozier taking the Nick's Perbock role and that aspect,

731
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,079
So where's he gonna play, Who's he gonna play with?

732
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,760
Will he see power play time? He's not a great

733
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,280
power play quarterback. He's got a great shot, He's got

734
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,719
a good, hard, pretty accurate shot, but he doesn't see

735
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,599
a lot of power play time, so he's an interesting

736
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:18,239
guy to keep an eye on. Where what's his role

737
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,280
this year? Will the lighting go eleven and seven? We

738
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,639
just talked about all the forwards. I don't know that

739
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,280
they go eleven and seven a lot this year because

740
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,719
they feel they have better depth amongst your forward group.

741
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,800
And who's going to be the odd man out when

742
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,679
it comes to dressing six defensemen out of those seven

743
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,559
just mentioned right, we know mcdonnal and Chernach are gonna

744
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:42,159
be a pair. We assume Hedman will play with Moser

745
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:46,159
again as long as Moser's healthy, and then that leaves Liliberg,

746
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,880
Krozier and Radish as your third pairing. And Lilaburg's still young,

747
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,639
Radish twenty nine years old. He's got a lot of

748
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,320
hockey experience, but he doesn't have a ton of NHL experience.

749
00:36:57,679 --> 00:36:59,960
And then Max Krozer's still trying to find his way

750
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,400
into a consistent ring. We've liked him every time he's

751
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,480
come up. So don't know where Darren radis lands in

752
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:08,280
terms of the playing time. A lot of that I

753
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,440
think will be sworted out in training camp. Certainly he'll

754
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,159
see some time with Victor Hedman. We saw just as

755
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:16,679
they did with Mikail Sergachev. When Sargachev was here, he'd

756
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,000
play left side, he'd go up and play top minutes

757
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:21,440
with Victor Headman at times. I think Moses is not

758
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,800
to the same level as Mikhail Sergachev, but I think

759
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,159
he'll have that opportunity to sometimes, even within games, play

760
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,039
left side right side, dependent on situational play. But I

761
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:34,079
think Moser's gonna be the more consistent guy with Victor Hedman,

762
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:35,239
even though it's his off side.

763
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: So where does Darren Raddish fit.

764
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,599
Speaker 1: That's a question that only he can answer with his

765
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,960
play in training camp in the early part of the season.

766
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:47,119
Speaker 4: Ryan McDonough actually is the winner of the trivia question

767
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,920
who had the highest goals of our replacement among defensemen

768
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,360
last year, And that was kind upset. The reunion went well.

769
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:56,280
His time in Nashville didn't last longer than the average

770
00:37:56,559 --> 00:37:58,920
rival party that shows up there from time to time.

771
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:02,400
He came back to Tampa as an alternate captain and

772
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,079
he played well and even strength to offense and even

773
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:08,719
strength defense. He passed a thousand career games played last year.

774
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,760
Tread the tread is wearing on the tires, there's no

775
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,000
doubt about that. But from outside, he looks like one

776
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,880
of those kind of veteran leader types who doesn't show

777
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,920
up as much on the score sheet, plays a good

778
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,639
role with the team. Contract is expiring this year, but

779
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:25,519
we've seen a whole lot from McDonough in the past,

780
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:29,079
and one wonders whether that still might be in there.

781
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,360
Thirty one points last year in eighty two games. What

782
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,519
are you expecting from Ryan McDonough this year?

783
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: A lot of the same.

784
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: He's just he's mister steady and everything he does, he's

785
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,519
not going to put up a lot of points. Maybe

786
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:43,280
earlier in his career when he was running number one

787
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,440
power play with the Rangers, but he's at the time

788
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:49,119
of his career to where he understands what he's being

789
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:51,360
asked but doesn't mean he can't. Like he had a

790
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,840
shorthanded goal last year off the rush, and he understands

791
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,480
the times to jump up in the play and be involved,

792
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:59,280
but he knows that his job is to be the defender.

793
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 2: And you mentioned the veteran leader. His voice in that.

794
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: Locker room, it's so strong, it's so strong that he

795
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,159
just keeps everything together when they lost Steven Stamkos, and

796
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,960
he was such a strong leader. He is such a

797
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,039
strong leader they needed somebody to not replace that role,

798
00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:19,559
but just be that type of a voice in.

799
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:20,199
Speaker 2: The locker room.

800
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:23,519
Speaker 1: I think McDonough's presence back on the ice in the

801
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:25,960
locker room steadied a lot of things out. I don't

802
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,960
think it's a coincidence that the Lightning's defensive numbers jumped

803
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,480
as high as they did from two years ago to

804
00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:36,159
last year with McDonough's back. With McDonough's back right, he

805
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,599
unlocked Eric Chernak. He got Chernac back to playing at

806
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:42,880
his level. There's such a good duo together, so I

807
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:45,599
expect more the same type of minutes, the same type

808
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:48,559
of role, a lot of penalty killing from Ryan McDonough.

809
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:52,199
I mean, his play last year earned him an invitation

810
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,559
to Team USA's pre Olympic camp. I don't know if

811
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:57,000
he's going to make the team. I think the USA

812
00:39:57,159 --> 00:40:00,719
is stacked defensively with guys who were younger and are

813
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,480
better skaters, and we know Quinn Hughes didn't even play

814
00:40:03,519 --> 00:40:05,519
in the four Nations last year for them. But the

815
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:08,480
fact that McDonald was invited where he's at his age.

816
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,880
You don't think of those Olympic teams outside of Sydney

817
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,599
Crosby bringing in players who are at that point in

818
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:18,559
their career. But McDonough's play and his veteran leadership and

819
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,519
certainly he's been there before in Olympic teams, all of

820
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:24,920
that is on the table with Ryan McDonald's from that

821
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:27,760
fantasy standpoint, he's not gonna put up a ton of

822
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,440
offense and numbers, but he's going to give you the

823
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,000
block shots, right, He's going to give you the penalty

824
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:34,559
killing minutes that can lead to more block shots and

825
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:38,440
everything else. He's just you don't worry when Ryan McDonald's

826
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,840
on the ice. And I know that's a little bit

827
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,920
different from a fantasy perspective, but he eats a lot

828
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,599
of minutes because he just does his job every time

829
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:47,119
he's out there.

830
00:40:48,039 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 3: Let's move over to the blue line and talk goalies.

831
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,079
The Lightning were ranked seventh and expected goals against for sixty,

832
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:57,519
but finished fourth in ranked actual goals for sixty. The

833
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:00,639
main reason for that, of course, andre Vosileski, who played

834
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,239
sixty three games and in that time had twenty eight

835
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,239
point eight goals save above expected. That's a pretty awesome number.

836
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,679
Of course, we've come to expect that from the great

837
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,039
goaltender Delta. Fenwick was also very strong and his record

838
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,239
was really good thirty eight, twenty and five Jonas Johansen.

839
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:21,719
You know, it definitely kept them afloat in the games

840
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,800
that he played, which hasn't always been the gig case

841
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,480
for him. Nineteen games he saved just a little bit,

842
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:28,960
just half a goal above expected and went nine six

843
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:32,159
and three during that time. So is this kind of

844
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:35,239
a similar split we should expect this season Eric between

845
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,559
the two, maybe Veslevsky plays a little more. What do

846
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,920
we think is going to happen with the Tampa goalies?

847
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: I think ideally they'd want to keep Vasilevski in the

848
00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:50,719
fifty five game range, fifty five to sixty. I think

849
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,000
a lot of teams nowadays, I mean, like the days

850
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:57,960
of Marty burd Drew starting seventy five games in the

851
00:41:58,039 --> 00:41:59,719
season or some of the numbers that he put up

852
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,840
in his career, I think those days are past. I

853
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,440
think any team will look at their goal to any tandem.

854
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:09,559
Everybody says they need two goalies, and that's absolutely true

855
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:12,599
in today's game. So even with a guy like Vasilewski,

856
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:16,280
who returned to his elite level coming off the back

857
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,719
surgery the season before. I think you definitely want to

858
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:24,639
maintain a level because everybody's looking at the bigger picture.

859
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:28,159
The Light didn't expect to be a playoff team. Internally,

860
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,960
for sure, they feel they're a Stanley Cup contending team.

861
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,559
And the way sometimes to make sure you can remain

862
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:37,840
that is obviously you have to put yourself in position

863
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,119
during the regular season, but it's also to have a

864
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:44,639
goalie who's not worn down come April. So I think ideally,

865
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:48,320
if everything if they could script everything out, I think

866
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,960
could be a fifty five to sixty game situation for

867
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:55,079
Andre Vasileski, which would leave twenty to twenty five games

868
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:58,119
in that range for you, Honestio Hansson, But you also

869
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,440
have to have your backup give you a chance. And

870
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:05,199
the numbers sometimes aren't pretty with theo Hansson, but he

871
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,400
picked up points.

872
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: Twelve twelve starts.

873
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: He picked up points, and that's what you ask of

874
00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:13,920
your backup goaltender. So the goals against and the same

875
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,199
percentage might not be at a level that you would

876
00:43:16,199 --> 00:43:20,840
necessarily feel comfortable with, but he does what you ask

877
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,480
a goalie to do, and he gives you a chance.

878
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:27,880
And with Vazi, he's such a competitor. If you listen

879
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,239
to any of his comments coming out of exit meetings

880
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,360
last year, he was ticked off that they lost again

881
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,119
in the first round.

882
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: He was not happy.

883
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: He understands their home record in the playoffs over the

884
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:41,400
last three years, even going back to the twenty twenty

885
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,599
two Stanley Cup Final against Colorado, their home record has

886
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:49,039
been atrocious. He's already internalized all those things. And if

887
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:51,719
that's the case, you're still going to see a very

888
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:57,199
strongly motivated andre Vasilevski who never has any great goaltender.

889
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,599
He never wants to see a goal behind him, So

890
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:02,079
continue to let that be his drive, and if that's

891
00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:04,960
the case, you can see another similar type of vesn

892
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,760
a caliber year out of andre Bazileski.

893
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 4: All right, that has been a great tour around these

894
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,000
Tampa Bay Lightning Eric. Tell people how they can follow

895
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:15,599
all your work.

896
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the website is lightinginsider dot com. It's very easy

897
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,599
to find. It's the website was rebuilt a couple of

898
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:24,840
years ago, so it's much more user friendly, a lot

899
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,280
easier to navigate around, and certainly it's a premium website.

900
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,119
So there's two plans. You have a yearly plan, you

901
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:32,559
have a monthly plan as well. There's two ways to

902
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:35,719
sign up and coverage from the start of training camp

903
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,639
which is just around the corner, all the way to

904
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,880
the end of the regular season and into the playoffs,

905
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,119
which Lenny fans hope is going to take them into

906
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,440
June once again this year as this team feels that

907
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,840
they are a contender. So Lightinginsider dot com is the website.

908
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 4: All right, Thank you so much, Eric, and good luck following.

909
00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:57,079
Was it you said your twenty seventh season of Lighting

910
00:44:57,159 --> 00:44:58,039
or twenty sixth.

911
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: I was trying to add it up. I think it's

912
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,280
twenty six all right.

913
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,519
Speaker 1: Like I started at the paper in two thousand as

914
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:07,079
the backup, I took over an oh one as the

915
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:09,960
full time beat. You had a miss season there in

916
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:10,800
four oh five.

917
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,159
Speaker 2: I do I count that. I don't know. It's been

918
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:15,480
a long damn time, that's all I know.

919
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: When you've done that much math, you heat have earned it.

920
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:20,679
You have paid your dues.

921
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming on, Eric, Yeah, my pleasure. Guys.

922
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:35,079
Be well, Wilson, that's good fire. Pat, Oh my goodness.

923
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 3: Long with a Cat crap.

924
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 4: Now it's your weekly goalie talk. But Kat Silverman, Cat's instincts.

925
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 3: Time once again for Cat's instincts. With Kat Silverman and

926
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,840
benbo Mag we're talking lightning goalies. Yes, eventually they will

927
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,920
need another goalie aside from Harry Vassilevski. Here are some

928
00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:00,199
names to think about. The first one Harrison Meighan. He's

929
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,760
twenty years old, six foot, four hundred and seventy four pounds,

930
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,079
drafted two hundred and six overall back in twenty twenty four.

931
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,280
Last year he finished his last WHL season. It took

932
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,679
the Medicine at Medison Hat Tigers to the Memorial Cup,

933
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,679
winning WHL and taking home MVP honors in the process.

934
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:22,719
Looking at his equivalency, it looks pretty awful considering his achievements.

935
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,320
I don't quite understand it. Maybe it was just a

936
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,000
product of the team around him, but he's hovering in

937
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,760
the iteens percentage in terms of being in NHL or not.

938
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,039
A whole lot of great comps there, but Scott Wedgward

939
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:35,599
is one point. He certainly was the service backup for

940
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:38,519
a while and has had runs of relevancy. Kat, what

941
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:40,079
are instincts tell us about Menigan.

942
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:44,519
Speaker 5: Menigan's a tough one because he looks like a project.

943
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:49,559
Even though he took them the MVP honors, he won

944
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,880
the Memorial he took the Medicine Hat Tiger, Medicine Hat

945
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,559
Tigers to the Memorial Cup. He looked like a lot

946
00:46:57,679 --> 00:47:03,079
of what he was doing right is standing there. That

947
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,920
that sounds bad, but he was very good at not

948
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:10,320
overplaying the situation behind a defense that really understood how

949
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,519
to clean things up in front of him, and so

950
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:16,400
that can be why we send of a low comp

951
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:20,239
for him, even though he did have essentially a really

952
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:27,199
illustrious season. From the trophy shelf perspective, his skating looks fine.

953
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:33,639
I think his decision making looks overly cautious and less

954
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,920
like he's got really sharp instincts and more like he

955
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:40,360
is willing to play it safe at all times, which

956
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,280
is not necessarily a bad thing, but is if Lightning

957
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:51,719
fans are expecting someone who plays like Vassilevsky, who really

958
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,360
takes control and does a really good job of dictating

959
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,719
the play, does a good job of reading what's going

960
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,239
on with the defense in front of him him and

961
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,679
sometimes playing a more conservative game where he essentially allows

962
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,039
the defense to control how much space the offense is

963
00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:11,599
allowed to have within his zone. But other times he

964
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,519
is able to really engage in the play more and

965
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,320
become a little more aggressive and challenging for the offense.

966
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,280
That is not something that I've seen super consistently for Menigan.

967
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,159
He is only twenty, he has only played in the juniors,

968
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,480
so that is something that is harder to do, particularly

969
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,880
in the WHL, which is a very defense heavy faction

970
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,880
of the CHL. If we look at really good offense

971
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:46,320
and goaltending from the OHL, we look at really good

972
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,360
defense and structure from the WHL, and it's not necessarily

973
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,119
his fault. It would have been hard for him to

974
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:57,480
try and take control with a really structured defense in

975
00:48:57,519 --> 00:49:00,800
front of him at the WHL line playing in the

976
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,360
system that he did against the types of skaters that

977
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,280
are playing in the WHL, which is definitely more of

978
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,039
a two way hockey system. But I think we will

979
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:16,920
see when he arrives in Syracuse what that looks like

980
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,840
with the Crunch, so I think we'll have a better

981
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,079
idea of whether or not he is an air apparent.

982
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,119
Right now, he doesn't look like he is the next

983
00:49:29,199 --> 00:49:32,920
greatest thing for the Lightning. But every time they do

984
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:36,079
draft someone who seems like the next greatest thing, we

985
00:49:36,199 --> 00:49:40,000
expect to see that person backing up Andre Basilevski, and

986
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,920
instead they sign a goaltender who is one year older

987
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,719
than the goaltender that they had as a backup the

988
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,599
year prior. So they don't seem like they are willing

989
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,400
to allow that prospect tandem situation.

990
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: Maybe they will.

991
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,559
Speaker 5: I don't think that he is in any way, shape

992
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:01,719
or former for that. We're probably three or four years

993
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:06,400
away from if he ends up being a really good NHLer.

994
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:08,760
I would say that's probably going to be when it hits,

995
00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:13,320
but that's not what Tampa has shown that they're looking

996
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,239
for right now anyway.

997
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,559
Speaker 3: All right, well let's talk about the other guy, and

998
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:20,960
that's Caleb heel Isle. Nineteen years old, sixty two, one

999
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,400
hundred ninety six pounds, Drafted one hundred and ninety third

1000
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,119
overall back in twent twenty five, this current recently just

1001
00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:30,039
happen draft. He spent his draft season in the USHL

1002
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:33,039
for the Madison Capitals, where his numbers were really not

1003
00:50:33,159 --> 00:50:36,519
great kind a surprising actually, than he did get drafted.

1004
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:41,960
His hockey prospecting equivalency is pretty low, and not a

1005
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,159
whole lot of NHL is in there. Chris Mason is

1006
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,760
probably the best from that lot. There's a lot of

1007
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,800
development to go with kat. What are yours to tell

1008
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:50,599
us about Ohile?

1009
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 5: He looks like a long term project for them. He

1010
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,480
has already committed to North Dakota for the twenty six

1011
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:01,599
twenty seventh season. He's got another year, it looks like

1012
00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:04,599
with the Madison Capitals, and then he's going to move

1013
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,000
to playing college hockey. So I do think that's a

1014
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:14,719
really weird draft pick for Tampa because he really looks

1015
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:19,880
to me from a playing perspective, like they could have

1016
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,039
gotten him for free as an unsigned player when he

1017
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:25,880
was playing in college if he ended up really panning out.

1018
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:31,039
But I don't know, that's a really strange pick for me.

1019
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:36,880
I don't think he looks bad per se. He looks

1020
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,360
like I don't know. I think he looks a lot

1021
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:42,760
like a kid who has spent a lot of time

1022
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,880
at USA Hockey goaltending camps. So nothing super inspired about

1023
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,800
his plate, nothing terrible, no huge red flags. He's not

1024
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,840
quite as aggressive as Drew Camesso was. He's not anywhere

1025
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,760
near as controlled and precise as Spencer Knight was. I

1026
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:06,079
think he's just He's just there. And I think that

1027
00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:10,599
Tampa is probably hoping that since they are going to

1028
00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:13,840
be a little resource depleted when it comes to getting

1029
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,000
goaltenders in the next three or four years, they won't

1030
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:23,320
have the bargaining chips to coax players in for free,

1031
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,239
so they drafted him instead. That's the only real reason

1032
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,000
I can think of that they did this. I did

1033
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:32,639
do a real quick dive to see his dad did

1034
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,880
play professional hockey. I wanted to see if he was

1035
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,280
potentially listed as a scout for Tampa. Doesn't seem like

1036
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,079
he is. But that's something that I guess only the

1037
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,119
Edmonton Oilers do.

1038
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:45,679
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know.

1039
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 5: I think North Dakota is a really fun place to

1040
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:54,000
see goaltenders develop. They have a really good system where

1041
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,920
their goaltenders and the goaltenders in the area and their

1042
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,159
women's team RIP all have gotten a chance over the

1043
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,159
years to really do a lot off the ice together.

1044
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,719
They do a lot of cross training together. The Lamarou family.

1045
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,239
Jp Lamarou is I believe he's the eldest brother and

1046
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,280
he does a lot with North Dakota hockey with goaltending

1047
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:23,239
and elite camps around und so I think it's a

1048
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,239
good place for him to develop, but I don't know

1049
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,719
it's I'm glad that the Lightning are drafting goalies, but

1050
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,119
every goalie they've drafted in the last four or five

1051
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:41,719
years hasn't really obviously stuck in their system, so we'll see.

1052
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:48,079
Maybe they're rolling the dice again and anticipating Vassilevski sticking

1053
00:53:48,119 --> 00:53:49,920
around until he's forty five.

1054
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,519
Speaker 3: That'll be fun to seek. So Kat, thanks for giving

1055
00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:56,840
us your instincts some of the Gray Lightning Wolves.

1056
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,639
Speaker 4: Victor, there is something else we got to talk about.

1057
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,559
Don't we have something special to give to the listeners.

1058
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:07,840
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1059
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1060
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1061
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1062
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1068
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1069
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a couple of the winners from all those who enter

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1071
00:54:43,519 --> 00:55:01,599
Speaker 4: We'll be back right after this dig The Dynasty Jig

1072
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,639
Cantlbay The Lightning Edition sixer ruff over here. The Lightning

1073
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,239
have traditionally been good drafters, but they've also been a

1074
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,440
very good team, as you heard, which puts them at

1075
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:17,119
last place victor in your team rankings. Nonetheless, unlike some teams,

1076
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,400
we do have three teams to go or three players

1077
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,280
to go over today it starts with your no brainer.

1078
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: Who is it?

1079
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: No brainer? Is Ethan Zata. Zata was a twenty twenty

1080
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,440
five second round pick fifty six overall sixty two hundred

1081
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,360
and seventy nine pounds. He was playing in the HL

1082
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,239
for the Niagara Asked Ice Dogs and had a jump

1083
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,719
from seven goals and seventeen points in sixty two games

1084
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,960
in his D minus one season to twenty one goals

1085
00:55:41,039 --> 00:55:43,480
and fifty five points in sixty eight games this season,

1086
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:47,920
and he did play at the UA teams for Canada

1087
00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:52,639
five points in seven games in all a good draft season,

1088
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,440
but not some not exceptional, and that kind of exemplifies

1089
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:59,920
his fifty six overall ranking. Looking at his Fantasy HOWK

1090
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,119
Life player card, you see a little less green than

1091
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:06,239
you would like. But the play driving and transition numbers

1092
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:11,239
are good, not amazing. The passing, especially the passes of

1093
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,159
the slot and pre shot passes are pretty good. He

1094
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,079
doesn't shoot a lot, but he's a pretty efficient shooter

1095
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,960
when he does, and so that's good. He does take

1096
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,159
a lot of pims, so Ethan Zotta good for pims

1097
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:24,559
if that's what you want, and also really good for bash.

1098
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:26,480
You know, even though his shots aren't very good, his

1099
00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:29,079
hits and blocks are excellent. So this is a guy

1100
00:56:29,159 --> 00:56:31,840
with a high peripheral floor, which it will be nice

1101
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:35,199
in case his scoring doesn't fully translate. I have him

1102
00:56:35,199 --> 00:56:37,360
at a five point three five thirty five percent chance

1103
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,320
of being an average roster player, but certainly room to

1104
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,519
grow here for Zota. So that's nice to see. Let's

1105
00:56:43,559 --> 00:56:46,440
hear what else makes him interesting From our Fantasy Hockey

1106
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:47,519
Life Scout.

1107
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:53,159
Speaker 4: FHL scout Tony has this to say about Zada. He

1108
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,800
is an effective skater with some speed, very adept at

1109
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,760
finding open teammates with passes, a variety of ways to

1110
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,119
me puck possession, variety of shots, wrist snap and slap.

1111
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,719
An accurate shooter, Ethan seems to have great vision and

1112
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,679
anticipation while playing with the puck, allowing him to find

1113
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,960
open teammates and get open for another shot on the

1114
00:57:13,039 --> 00:57:17,440
give and go. Little in o panic, Tony observed in

1115
00:57:17,719 --> 00:57:21,000
Ethan's games for checking, Zada did a fair amount of

1116
00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:25,440
Ford checking, although not overly aggressive, and with his anticipation

1117
00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:28,840
in for checking, he's an excellent defensive player. So the

1118
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,760
best asset here was the Hockey IQ. Biggest concern Ethan's

1119
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,159
not dynamic in any one area of the game. The

1120
00:57:36,239 --> 00:57:39,159
top tier outcome Tier two, middle six some penalty kill

1121
00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:43,159
and power play time. Ethan's a responsible, trustworthy player, so

1122
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:45,599
he's most likely not going to get your team beat,

1123
00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:48,119
but he's also not going to wow anyone. Tier three

1124
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:51,039
bottom six PK time would be a median outcome here

1125
00:57:51,679 --> 00:57:54,039
because he lacks dynamic play, not a lot of bash,

1126
00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:57,599
not much physicality, and the stylistic comparable. Tony comes up

1127
00:57:57,639 --> 00:58:02,000
with Anthony Sirelli. Frankly, he thinks, if this guy develops

1128
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,480
anywhere near Anthony Surelli Tampa will have made a great selection.

1129
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,199
Mason Black, the Lord Stanley Division Tidy Champion and the

1130
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,800
NHL Rank King put out the poll Ethan Zada versus

1131
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:19,039
void tech chie Hush, and Zada wins that one fifty

1132
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:23,519
six forty four Victor, Uh, Do you have strong opinions

1133
00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:26,199
on these two? Not really?

1134
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,719
Speaker 3: These are both really deaf guys that aren't super interesting.

1135
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,079
But I definitely would take Zata here. I think, for

1136
00:58:34,199 --> 00:58:38,599
one thing, he's got a much higher equivalency in a

1137
00:58:38,679 --> 00:58:40,960
couple of the models. I'll get into that in a sec.

1138
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:44,840
But chi haas is they're both they were both drafted

1139
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,679
this year, They're both you know, kind of similar in

1140
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,360
terms of where they were drafted and everything. But I

1141
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:54,480
do think that Zata has a little bit more of

1142
00:58:54,679 --> 00:58:58,840
the upside. Looking at the hockey prospecting between the two,

1143
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,360
he has a thirteen chance of being a star based

1144
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,480
on its OHL time, and chi has is down at

1145
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,119
two percent. Part of that is not having an equivalency

1146
00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:11,719
in is D minus one season. So yeah, neither of

1147
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,119
these look super exciting. I will say that Zata does

1148
00:59:14,199 --> 00:59:18,039
have a Castper Halton in comp and a Nick Robertson comp,

1149
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:19,960
which we still don't fully know how those are going

1150
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:22,119
to work out, but they're trending to be at least

1151
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:26,159
somewhat relevant, whereas we don't know about chi Has. Looking

1152
00:59:26,239 --> 00:59:30,440
at the Fantasyacica Life player card for both these guys,

1153
00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:33,599
there's just a whole lot of color in the chia

1154
00:59:33,639 --> 00:59:38,400
Has one. There's not so good play driving, the shooting

1155
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,920
and is not so good the passing is a little

1156
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,280
bit better. Priffs are decent at sixty five percent, sixty

1157
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,079
six percent, transition game at sixty four percent, so all

1158
00:59:48,119 --> 00:59:52,119
in all, not super exciting. And the comp that is

1159
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,719
probably most exciting here for Zata is Halton in with

1160
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,280
some other potential options that we're mostly busts or guys

1161
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,480
that were average producers, and looking at the j Fresh card,

1162
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:05,960
just one percent chance for Ethan Zata to be a star,

1163
01:00:06,039 --> 01:00:07,840
eight percent chance of being an NHL or Jesse.

1164
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 4: Well, now that we've gotten through the headliner, the blockbuster,

1165
01:00:12,599 --> 01:00:14,000
who's the need to know prospect?

1166
01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, a very uninspiring headliner for sure, and the will

1167
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,920
go next to Sam O'Reilly as the need to know

1168
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:28,679
He twenty four first runner, thirty second overall, sixty pounds,

1169
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,519
was drafted by Edmonton and traded to Tampa and Isaac

1170
01:00:32,599 --> 01:00:36,599
Coward deal. This to me is clearly a floor for

1171
01:00:36,719 --> 01:00:40,320
ceiling trade. Sam O'Reilly is a very high ceiling, high

1172
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,719
floor guy, whereas Isaac Coward has a much higher ceiling,

1173
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,360
And so I think O'Reilly is someone who you're most

1174
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,440
likely going to be able to fit into your bottom six.

1175
01:00:48,679 --> 01:00:51,760
Play reliable, tough minutes, but I'm not sure that he's

1176
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,280
going to be super exciting in terms of fantasy. Although

1177
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,800
he was over a point per game this season with

1178
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,159
London as they won the Memorial Cup and certainly an

1179
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:02,000
important part of that. He was awesome in the playoffs

1180
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,800
twenty two points in seventeen games, so you know, you

1181
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,079
like to see that, and you hope that maybe he

1182
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:09,280
can translate more of that. I'm just not sure. But

1183
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,280
if you look at his Fantasy Hockey Life player card,

1184
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:17,559
he rates out extremely well in shooting and passing almost

1185
01:01:17,639 --> 01:01:21,679
ninetieth percentile, eighty ninth percentile priffs, pretty strong bash at

1186
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:26,320
eighty second percentile. He also is pretty good with play

1187
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,719
driving and transition, both in the mid to low seventies

1188
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:33,119
there So, all in all, pretty strong OHL play he

1189
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,639
is nineteen, so he's not He's a little bit older,

1190
01:01:35,679 --> 01:01:38,079
but not super old for that league. I have him

1191
01:01:38,119 --> 01:01:40,960
at a four point sixty five, so just a pretty

1192
01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:44,159
solid chance of being a sub average roster player. And

1193
01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:46,000
it depends on how deep your league is. He might

1194
01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:48,400
be a little bit more exciting versus if it's a

1195
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,639
shallow lead. Not super exciting. But let's find out what

1196
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,719
is interesting about sama rally from my FRHL scout Jesse.

1197
01:01:55,519 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 4: Well, Victor, you still have me awake. Let's see what

1198
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:01,519
lead scout Patrick can do to change my mind on

1199
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:06,360
mister O'Reilly. He says skating improve the skating somewhat now

1200
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,920
slightly above average. He has added some berths that he's

1201
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,440
able to use on the rush, passing and handling. Skilled

1202
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:15,840
in those areas, Riley is able to handle intight, including

1203
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,440
along the boards. However, despite his playmaking skills, he isn't

1204
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:23,360
the primary play driver. Shooting an average rich shot, most

1205
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:27,280
effective in closed and specializes in tip ins the IQ

1206
01:02:27,559 --> 01:02:31,760
the hockey IQ. O'Reilly stays composed, He sticks with it

1207
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,960
on board, battle stays in motion, being good position and

1208
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:39,360
anticipation is most evident on defense. O'Reilly is a contributor

1209
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,519
on the fore check. He competes along the boards, including

1210
01:02:42,679 --> 01:02:48,119
throwing opportune hits. Sam takes his defensive duties seriously and

1211
01:02:48,239 --> 01:02:50,639
is often the first forward, staying close to his man

1212
01:02:51,039 --> 01:02:54,440
he's counted on to help on the penalty kill. Patrick

1213
01:02:54,519 --> 01:02:57,960
says that Sam O'Reilly's best asset in some is his

1214
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,079
two hundred foot game. The biggest concern despite his point total,

1215
01:03:02,199 --> 01:03:05,280
science point to a somewhat limited points upside at the

1216
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,719
higher levels. The top tier outcome probably a middle sixer

1217
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,679
fifty to fifty five points, no power play time, although

1218
01:03:11,719 --> 01:03:14,639
there's some possibility he could be NetFront on the power play.

1219
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,079
The justification solid overall game leading to solid but limited

1220
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,400
role based on the lack of higher end skill and

1221
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:26,239
the median outcome bottom six thirty five to forty five points.

1222
01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:30,280
Because his compete and defensive acumen, along with playmaking ability,

1223
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,320
means he can be valuable in the bottom six. Patrick

1224
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,639
thinks maybe a Scott Lawton type and Mason Black put

1225
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:39,800
up the poll Sambuel Riley versus Teddy Stega of the

1226
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,039
Nashville Predators. Old Teddy wins this one fifty one point

1227
01:03:44,119 --> 01:03:48,079
four to forty one point forty eight point six victor.

1228
01:03:48,519 --> 01:03:49,400
What do you think of that one?

1229
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 3: The man who I was so tired at the draft

1230
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:57,360
that I mispronounced his name is Steady Tiga. How can

1231
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,400
you go against him? Yeah? I still like him. He is.

1232
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: That.

1233
01:04:02,519 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: Both these guys are most likely going to be middle

1234
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,239
to bottom six forwards that aren't super exciting in terms

1235
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,599
of fantasy, But I would take Stega. He did have

1236
01:04:11,679 --> 01:04:15,000
a pretty great season at Boston College. Thirty points in

1237
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:17,840
thirty six games. That's a huge jump from being just

1238
01:04:18,639 --> 01:04:20,360
a little bit over a point per game at the

1239
01:04:20,519 --> 01:04:23,760
us NTTP and USHL to being near point per game

1240
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:26,559
at in the NCAA. Is pretty awesome. Of course, we

1241
01:04:26,679 --> 01:04:29,960
remember his heroics in the U twenty World Junior Championship game.

1242
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,280
I think wasn't the only shot and only goal he

1243
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,880
scored in the whole tournament was? I believe it was

1244
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,639
a gold medal game if I remember correctly. That was

1245
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:42,480
pretty awesome. He was pretty clutch and yeah it was yeah,

1246
01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:46,440
one goal on one shot. Oh he had more than

1247
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,679
one shot. I think No, that was it? Okay, Sorry,

1248
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,119
just fact checking myself in real time. Literally the only

1249
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,639
opportunity he got and he buried it for the win

1250
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,960
against Finland, and you know, I think that's the kind

1251
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,000
of player he's going to be. Both these guys, but

1252
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,920
I think Steka, even more than o'reiley, is going to

1253
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,400
be one of those clutch depth performers who may work

1254
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:07,800
his way up to the top of the lineup. He

1255
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,519
kind of reminds me a little bit of Dawson Mercer.

1256
01:05:09,679 --> 01:05:11,840
Just really smart, complain to where in the lineup, but

1257
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,039
probably won't be super exciting in terms of fantasy or

1258
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:17,519
just kind of always leave you wanting more. But as

1259
01:05:17,559 --> 01:05:20,960
a coach on your team, you'll love him. And I

1260
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:24,400
think that that's probably what we'll say about both these guys,

1261
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,360
say I do like the Scott Latin com for Sam o'reiley.

1262
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,559
I think he's just going to be hard to play against,

1263
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:35,559
you know, reliable middle six guy, and that's good for

1264
01:05:35,639 --> 01:05:37,920
your team. That's so good for fantasy. Looking at the

1265
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,039
hockey prospect between the two, o'reiley kind of held steady

1266
01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:43,199
at seven and then six percent chance of being a star.

1267
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,159
Steka went down from twenty four to ten percent, even

1268
01:05:46,159 --> 01:05:49,119
though he had a really strong NCAA team. Byron's model

1269
01:05:49,159 --> 01:05:51,840
really punishes and unless you absolutely knock it out of

1270
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,719
the park. So ten percent chance of being a star

1271
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,360
isn't super high, but still a little bit more than o'reiley.

1272
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,880
And if you look at Teddy's Fantasy Taic Life player card,

1273
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,039
there's a lot of green here as well, just like

1274
01:06:04,159 --> 01:06:06,440
there is for o'reiley in a much harder league. So

1275
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,000
I think that that cast a tip towards Stiga, and

1276
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:10,679
I have him at a six point four to six

1277
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,920
so a pretty decent shot at being an above average

1278
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,320
player on your fantasy team, much better than Sam o'reiley.

1279
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,920
Looking at some other cops comps for Sam o'reiley, I

1280
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,679
think Emmi Heinemann is a reasonable one. None of these

1281
01:06:22,719 --> 01:06:26,760
guys are super exciting. They're pretty much all average producers

1282
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,760
at best. Looking at the j freshcard, just two percent

1283
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,800
chance of being a star, eighteen percent chance of being

1284
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:32,599
an NHL or Jesse.

1285
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,039
Speaker 4: Well, all right, then, and who is the keep your

1286
01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:39,079
eye on prospect picker?

1287
01:06:40,639 --> 01:06:44,239
Speaker 3: The keep your eye on is Nico hutanin twenty twenty one,

1288
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,840
seventh round pick six, three hundred and ninety eight pounds.

1289
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:52,599
He had his first full season in the HL this season,

1290
01:06:52,679 --> 01:06:55,440
twenty points in fifty one games. He'd kind of bounced

1291
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,920
around a bit. He developed in Finland, then he came

1292
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,920
to the WHL, and then went back to Finland, and

1293
01:07:00,039 --> 01:07:02,280
then just came back to North America, so it's kind

1294
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,559
of been all over the place. His calling card is

1295
01:07:04,599 --> 01:07:08,280
a massive shot, which he can definitely unleash in the

1296
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,559
right situation. But he also isn't necessarily the fleetest of

1297
01:07:12,639 --> 01:07:15,039
foot in getting around the ice another situations, so that

1298
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:17,280
might limit him a bit. But it was, you know,

1299
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,559
a decent first season in North America playing professional hockey.

1300
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,960
You look at his Fantasy Hockey Life player card and

1301
01:07:23,159 --> 01:07:25,920
there's some missing data here from his AHL time, but

1302
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:28,920
a lot of his play driving wasn't great. He does

1303
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:31,519
bash a lot, though his hits, blocks and shots mainly

1304
01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:33,320
his hits, though he hits a lot, is going to

1305
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,719
be really high, so that gives him a solid perferle floor.

1306
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,400
Let's hear what else is solid about Houten from our

1307
01:07:38,519 --> 01:07:39,480
FHL scout.

1308
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 4: And Patrick has this to say about Nico Houtonen, who

1309
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,800
used to be a little earlier in this preview. In

1310
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,880
years past, houtinin can has average skating. He is able

1311
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,920
to keep up with play and in some cases go

1312
01:07:52,239 --> 01:07:55,960
end to end average passing and handy, but occasionally shows

1313
01:07:56,039 --> 01:07:58,400
flashes of a little more. Most of his passes are

1314
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,079
simple and somewhat effective, but he can get passes the

1315
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:04,440
teammates in high danger areas. He can sometimes handle through

1316
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,679
crowds and contact, but also has a tendency to try

1317
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,239
to do too much a heavy shot that he will

1318
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,760
lost and shoot from near the point or around the

1319
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,840
face off dots. However, he could benefit from being more

1320
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,520
selective with his shots. Houton in shows some instances of

1321
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,760
good vision and anticipation. There are times when he can

1322
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,039
use more patients, but others when he could use more urgency.

1323
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,479
Houton is involved in the four check via checks, poke

1324
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,880
checks and board battles. Plays his part on defense, skates

1325
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:37,039
back hard, uses his body, or battles for the puck

1326
01:08:37,159 --> 01:08:40,760
with his stick. Patrick says the number one asset is

1327
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,560
that heavy shot and the biggest concern of the overall

1328
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,359
skating that could hold him back when he gets to

1329
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,640
the NHL. The top tier outcome here middle sixer on

1330
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,760
the power play fifty to sixty points because he plays

1331
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,600
a physical game with a good amount of skill that

1332
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,079
will make him a good asset. The median outcome more

1333
01:08:57,119 --> 01:08:59,760
of a bottom sixer power play two forty to forty

1334
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,279
five points. Good assets, but lack of a higher pace,

1335
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,159
better defense, and lower end skill could limit his role.

1336
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,520
And the stylistic comparable Patrick gives here is somewhat comparable

1337
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,880
to Pat Maroon and the Mason Black poll that he

1338
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:19,159
put out Nico Houtonen versus Dean la Turno, and that

1339
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,039
is fifty six point six to forty three point four

1340
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,119
Victor Whoten in victory. Is that would you think?

1341
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 3: I guess depends on what you want. Hutin In is

1342
01:09:31,159 --> 01:09:34,039
close to the NHL, although I kind of feel like

1343
01:09:34,119 --> 01:09:35,880
he might end up just being a tweener and not

1344
01:09:36,119 --> 01:09:40,359
someone who really gets relied on for NHL minutes. I

1345
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,439
think i'd probably lean Laturno because he is still really

1346
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:48,560
young in his development. Remember he was He's the huge six',

1347
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,720
seven two hundred fourteen pounds and he was playing in

1348
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:58,600
high school when he was Drafted. St. Andrews and he

1349
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,920
transitions straight from there to THE ncaa after a COUPLE

1350
01:10:02,039 --> 01:10:05,560
ushl games and it was. Rough we kind of figured

1351
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,199
it would be, rough and it was. Rough he had

1352
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,479
literally three assists in thirty six games Of Boston college

1353
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,079
playing a depth. Role it. Was it was a big

1354
01:10:13,159 --> 01:10:16,159
adjustment for. Him but since he's so early in the,

1355
01:10:16,199 --> 01:10:19,119
FUNNEL i would Take laturno because he still has plenty of.

1356
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:21,920
Time he's still a. Teenager he's. BIG a lot of,

1357
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,920
times it takes bigger guys longer to kind of coordinate

1358
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,680
and get it all figured. Out SO i would Take,

1359
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,479
laturno give him two three years and he might be

1360
01:10:31,079 --> 01:10:34,279
a solid, producer whereas Hutin, in maybe he figures it,

1361
01:10:34,359 --> 01:10:37,039
out maybe he gets a chance With, tampa BUT i

1362
01:10:37,159 --> 01:10:39,199
think the reality is he might end up just being

1363
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:41,439
a tweener BECAUSE i haven't seen much beyond his great.

1364
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,560
Shot and if you look at the hockey prospecting between the,

1365
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,800
two while both these guys are pretty, low Hutin in

1366
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,720
graduate of the model at two percent chance of being a,

1367
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,720
Star laturno is literally at zero. Percent and that's because

1368
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,439
he just basically didn't score this. Year looking at the

1369
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,039
hockey prospecting or, sorry The Fantasy akic life player card For,

1370
01:10:59,119 --> 01:11:01,119
laturno one of the real positives is that a lot

1371
01:11:01,159 --> 01:11:04,079
of his transition game At Boston college was really solid

1372
01:11:04,119 --> 01:11:07,640
eighty two percent for transition. GAME a lot of his

1373
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,399
breakouts were. Excellent a lot of his entries were very.

1374
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,199
Good some of his play driving numbers were really, good

1375
01:11:13,279 --> 01:11:15,560
his puck, battles his loose puck, Recovery he's using that

1376
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,560
really big frame really. Well lots of hits fifty one

1377
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,720
percent For, bash but eighty percent of that is his.

1378
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,479
Hits so there's looks like there's going to be a

1379
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,680
strong peripheral, floor AND i think we just got to

1380
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,199
give him a little bit of. TIME i have him

1381
01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:31,359
at a five point four zero forty percent chance of

1382
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,600
being an average roster, player AND i think there's upside for.

1383
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,560
More SO i would definitely Take laturno, here unless you

1384
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,840
just really wanted someone super close to THE nhl and

1385
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,119
didn't want to. Wait THEN i could see that. Argument

1386
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:46,119
looking at some other comps for Hutin, in there aren't

1387
01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:48,920
really a lot of good. Ones maybe Uh Casperi kappanan

1388
01:11:49,039 --> 01:11:52,479
in terms of average, producer who might be kind of,

1389
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:58,159
Similar but even that Capin in is much. Quicker how

1390
01:11:58,399 --> 01:12:02,520
the j fresh card for Hutan in one percent chance

1391
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,680
of being a, star forty seven percent chance of being

1392
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,600
AN NHLer as, usual pretty. Pessimistic and that is. It

1393
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,479
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