1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: W m n H rip the novels. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:26,199 Speaker 2: We're back from the brand Macconnerson. Least you're listening to 3 00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:42,479 macconnorton unleash Todd w m n H ninety five point three. 4 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,719 Speaker 1: Well you know, well you know, will you know that 5 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:05,719 you got there? Said, well you know? Will you know? 6 00:01:05,879 --> 00:01:07,359 Will you know that you got this? 7 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: Hmm? 8 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 4: Running through a mansion? Answer in a standing question, left alone, 9 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,400 through room, through both LEAs I know you left me question. 10 00:01:17,519 --> 00:01:20,079 Destiny is best to ring obsessing all my lessons learned. 11 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,879 I think I've earned some rest against It's time to 12 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,200 burn the desperate yearning for lott'st to cope with later 13 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,079 greater understanding handling matters as a man in standing a 14 00:01:27,159 --> 00:01:29,599 foot what we know is right, and making not demands, 15 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,439 and never given into ghosts, just hoping for where change. 16 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,159 It never comes, as long as you don't run. It's 17 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,159 fundamentally u central central Intel spelled it out. It sounds 18 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,359 a bit like self fulf wellness. 19 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: You've already won. 20 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 4: It's all about the combined. Some time is an illusion. 21 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,079 You can do it because you've done it someday, some say, 22 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:46,000 prove it to yourself, and that's enough to use the 23 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:48,079 runway claims be taking off of oft these guys and 24 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,480 lives to try to find us, flying freely, feeling finding 25 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,719 finding fly past, not to find us, climbing higher than 26 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,519 we dared you sched you fall back to the ground, 27 00:01:54,519 --> 00:01:55,840 resounding off the atmosphere. 28 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: It's clear, will never come back down. Oh no, we're 29 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,439 all out. 30 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 5: Day painting on this canon, last our sparks left. We're 31 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:30,840 burning like the stars. We've got scars as. 32 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: We've earned them working on so well, you know, well, 33 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:51,599 you know well, you know that you got this, said, well, 34 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,919 you know well, you know well, you know that you 35 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:02,719 got this. M I feel a little bitter about this. 36 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 4: Read a lot a lot of lyrics. Need a bit 37 00:03:04,759 --> 00:03:06,840 to sit and settle myself done before I hear it 38 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,599 fears nothing to do with the science system. Listen, serious, 39 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,280 gear up, dust off script the rust off. You can 40 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,319 drive a number and ver six off this path that 41 00:03:13,439 --> 00:03:16,439 at last, I I've found so many floors and lock 42 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,560 doors are torn down? How many more before I'm forced 43 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:22,240 to lay down and take a break, Before I break 44 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:24,599 and fade out? Listen and that this it's got me 45 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,400 thinking about what's missing. It's insensitive, obsessing over every single mistake, 46 00:03:28,439 --> 00:03:30,479 taking time and making rhymes to take my minds up 47 00:03:30,479 --> 00:03:32,800 all this sickness witness in between the lines of something 48 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,560 written you got this, you got this? 49 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: Well you know, well you know? Will you know that 50 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:11,159 you got this? Said, well you know? Will you know? 51 00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:12,840 Will you know that you got this? 52 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:20,319 Speaker 6: M You can through these windows, watching people following wind blows, 53 00:04:20,319 --> 00:04:22,279 holding on the hope that no wind folds beneath the 54 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,759 weight of carry getting their burdens, hurting inside and out, 55 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,480 trying trying to be something someday, some way, somehow, someone 56 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,160 that they can be proud of, sure the work what 57 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:31,240 they climbed out of, holding onto who they were while 58 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,360 turning into something more. 59 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: Be putting keys in their own doors, ensuring needs to 60 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:36,759 just be sure so they won't need to need no more. Indeed, 61 00:04:36,759 --> 00:04:38,759 we plead to leave this core, imploring we don't need 62 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,560 to work, and we can be without being forced, without 63 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,600 being forced, without being forced, without. 64 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 6: Being forced, without being poor, without being poor, without being without. 65 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:08,079 Speaker 7: I love that we haven't listened to that one in 66 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,920 a while. That is running through a mansion by six 67 00:05:10,959 --> 00:05:14,319 minds combined. Welcome back, everybody. We have entered our number 68 00:05:14,319 --> 00:05:17,800 three new marrow. Trace of Matt Connerton Unleashed and we 69 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,120 are live from the studios of wm NH ninety five 70 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,360 point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, 71 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:26,120 you can also stream the show from anywhere. Go to 72 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,199 Matt connorton dot com, slash live for all of your 73 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,040 live streaming options, social media links, contact infosh archives, et cetera, 74 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,879 et cetera. If you are listening live today is Saturday 75 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,759 August two, two thousand and twenty five, and joining us 76 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,040 now live in studio. Let me get that mic up here. 77 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,319 We have a craft yk with that camera on you 78 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:49,079 there too, because you've got you've got some cool stuff 79 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:53,120 to show us. But of course from also on Facebook, 80 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,800 you're my art by KF, My art by KF and 81 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,680 of course Chaotic Photography that's the k right yep. So 82 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,399 it's wonderful to have you here. We met through Terminus Underground, 83 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:08,519 right is that's where we met initially. Yes, you've you've taken. 84 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:10,360 I was talking about you at the top of the 85 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,800 show today talking about what's coming up, and I did 86 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,560 mention that you've Many of the photographs, the great photographs 87 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,319 of artists, especially performing live, have been taken by you 88 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:24,160 those are your pictures. 89 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:27,959 Speaker 8: I every time I'm able to get there and the 90 00:06:27,959 --> 00:06:30,079 bands are playing, I talk to them. I get the 91 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,000 permission to be up their butts with my camera because 92 00:06:34,439 --> 00:06:35,680 I like to get the shots that. 93 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 9: Nobody else gets. 94 00:06:36,959 --> 00:06:40,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, and yes, I do use my phone, but I 95 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,160 don't consider myself a photographer. 96 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:44,199 Speaker 9: I'm an artist. 97 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:47,639 Speaker 8: So I'm going to use whatever medium I have at 98 00:06:47,639 --> 00:06:52,399 that time that's going to fit that project. Yeah, and 99 00:06:52,439 --> 00:06:55,959 then take them and then when I develop them, I 100 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,680 have them. Well I don't have I give them to 101 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:03,959 andre and at Terminus and he puts them in the frames, 102 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:06,480 and we have the Hallway of Fame. 103 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:07,959 Speaker 9: Yes, of Terminus. 104 00:07:08,079 --> 00:07:11,279 Speaker 8: So if you play there and I'm able to capture you, 105 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:12,600 you go into the hallway. 106 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,279 Speaker 7: Yep. Yeah, absolutely. Hey do me a favorite. Can you 107 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:18,160 just turn that mic towards you a little bit? Yeah, 108 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,839 and no, just so it's like you're talking straight into it. Oh, perfect, perfect. Yeah. 109 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:23,839 The MIC's are very they very sensitive. I just want 110 00:07:23,839 --> 00:07:26,639 to make sure everybody can hear you. Okay, no, that's 111 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,680 uh yeah. And I always tell people too. The first 112 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,360 time you go to Terminus, it's kind of like walking 113 00:07:31,399 --> 00:07:33,560 into another world, you know, especially when you go into 114 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,319 that room. You know, well, the hallway is impressive, right 115 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,959 because the last time i've Jenny and I were there 116 00:07:37,959 --> 00:07:39,720 for the open house, and I think at that point 117 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:41,720 there was already some of your pictures that you had 118 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,040 take and that were that were put up and it 119 00:07:43,079 --> 00:07:44,319 was like, wow, this is really cool. 120 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 8: Yes, Eleanor has allowed me to keep my art up 121 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,319 there like seven yeah, yeah, and which I am willing 122 00:07:54,439 --> 00:07:58,519 to share. But I'm the rock Star member and as 123 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,199 a right now, I think I'm might be the only 124 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:03,759 artist artist, but I do believe she has another rock 125 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,000 so I member. Now I'm not sure what his medium is. 126 00:08:08,079 --> 00:08:13,000 But I started painting a year and a half ago, 127 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:19,240 and before that was all pencil and I finally was like, 128 00:08:19,279 --> 00:08:21,680 you know what, I'm going to try this out, and 129 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:25,720 all of a sudden, I just started painting everything and 130 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:30,000 I absolutely love it. And I just keep building my 131 00:08:30,279 --> 00:08:33,639 art into every If it interested me, I'm going to 132 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,759 do it. So I just now I got into taking pictures. 133 00:08:39,279 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 7: Wait, so did the did the photography come later? 134 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: That? 135 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 7: Like? What what came first? In terms of your of 136 00:08:45,039 --> 00:08:46,759 your creating art? 137 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 8: So I've always done pencil, drawing, pencil and paper like 138 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,559 you will never take that away from me. Okay, I 139 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,919 can bring it everywhere. I can create what I want 140 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:58,759 with that in any kind of setting. And then I 141 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,919 started a little bit photography, but not as much as 142 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,279 I've been doing now. Okay, I've always done crafting. And 143 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,600 then just like I said a year and a half ago, 144 00:09:09,639 --> 00:09:14,519 I started really painting like I did paintings, but I 145 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:20,159 never wanted to show anybody really Yeah, and then I had, like, 146 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,799 you have that event in your life that either pulls 147 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,559 you down brings you up. Mine pulled me down and 148 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,200 I refused to sit down and refuse to lay down. 149 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,639 Speaker 9: So I made it bring me up. 150 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 8: And people started seeing it and they were like, no, 151 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,240 we got to get we got to get this out, 152 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,039 We got to get this out. 153 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,519 Speaker 9: And I was like what. I was like, no, no, 154 00:09:38,519 --> 00:09:38,960 no no. 155 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 8: And my boyfriend Eddie set up my Facebook page and 156 00:09:44,919 --> 00:09:50,039 my Instagram page for me and just started putting my 157 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:50,840 art out there. 158 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,799 Speaker 7: Yeah. Something that we talk about a lot on the 159 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:00,000 show is, in fact, it came up with my previous guest, 160 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,000 Jamie Higgs. Uh is you know, using art, whether it 161 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,879 be visual art or music or whatever art it is 162 00:10:06,879 --> 00:10:08,879 that you're creating using it is really sort of a 163 00:10:08,879 --> 00:10:14,360 form of therapy and working through things because sometimes it's hard, 164 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,799 especially and Jamie and I talked about this specifically. Sometimes 165 00:10:17,799 --> 00:10:20,679 it's hard, especially when you're dealing with you know, major 166 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,440 life events or any kind of trauma, you know, to 167 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,960 to talk about that stuff and to be able to 168 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,320 emote everything that you're dealing with. But using art as 169 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,320 a way to kind of channel that and that that 170 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,399 expression and working through, working through your feelings and then 171 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,960 what winds up happening is not only is it great 172 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,120 therapy for you, but it also is something that other 173 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,679 people can connect with. So it's a way of you 174 00:10:46,759 --> 00:10:51,519 help yourself and you also wind up helping other people too. Well. 175 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 8: Mine wasn't. Mine wasn't so much for therapy For me. 176 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,639 It was getting people to understand how I felt. 177 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 7: Sure, sure it was because being able to communicate that. 178 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:04,759 Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's how I communicate. 179 00:11:04,799 --> 00:11:07,919 Speaker 8: I'm not very good with words, as you can hear now, 180 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,960 but through my art, I can express myself. I can 181 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,480 tell tell how you can feel it. You can see 182 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,240 how I'm feeling or what I'm trying to say versus 183 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,720 me actually trying to say it. Because I talk NonStop 184 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,679 I'm Adhd, So Nope, everybody kind of tunes me out sometimes. 185 00:11:29,159 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 7: The Adhd. Does that play a role in your art? 186 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,840 Do you think? Oh, definitely, there's a specific reason. I'm 187 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,600 curious about that. So, I don't know if you're familiar 188 00:11:36,639 --> 00:11:39,440 with doctor Kevin. He's from Nashua, doctor Kevin ross Emory. 189 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,519 I think Eleanor, Yeah, Eleanor knows him. I've known doctor 190 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,799 Kevin for like twenty years and he's amazing. But he's 191 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:51,000 done a lot of work in add adhd. He's written 192 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,600 some books. One of the books he's written about it 193 00:11:52,639 --> 00:11:55,519 is called Managing the Gift, and the premise of the 194 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,759 book is, look, if this is something that you have 195 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,039 or maybe your child has, this is not but this 196 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,120 is not a disorder. This is not a bad thing. 197 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:08,720 This is not something you have to figure out how 198 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,440 to overcome. This is something you should use because people 199 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,759 with this are creative and and there's a there's a 200 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:19,519 lot of things if you use it correctly. There are 201 00:12:19,519 --> 00:12:22,200 a lot of things about ad d adhd. That's that's 202 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,679 how he puts it, that that can actually be very 203 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,279 helpful and useful to you and accomplishing things. And also 204 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,679 and specifically in being creative. 205 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 8: Oh, definitely, like you can my friend's six minds combined. 206 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:38,080 You can ask him. You give me one idea, I'll 207 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,679 give you twenty. And it's why you're trying to solve 208 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,240 one thing. I've already solved it. I'm working on something else. 209 00:12:44,919 --> 00:12:48,399 And it's my hyper focus. Yes, what calms me down. 210 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,200 It just kind of centers me. My mom calls it. 211 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,039 He gets the world and I just get stuck in 212 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,759 it sometimes though that I forget everything else. 213 00:12:58,919 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 7: Really. 214 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:00,919 Speaker 9: Yeah, so it's. 215 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 7: Gonna be hyper focusing. That's another thing that comes with it. Yeah. Yeah. 216 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 9: It's got its curses and it's got its blessings. 217 00:13:06,159 --> 00:13:09,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean I think I have 218 00:13:09,879 --> 00:13:12,600 a little bit of that myself because I tend to 219 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:15,159 I can really kind of hyper focus on things. And 220 00:13:15,159 --> 00:13:17,840 I remember doctor Kevin and I having a conversation about 221 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,720 it and he said, yeah, Matt, you've definitely got some 222 00:13:20,519 --> 00:13:21,639 You've got some of these traits. 223 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 8: In the eighties, nobody was diagnosed with that. We were 224 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,799 just kids and we were hyper and right watch and 225 00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:29,159 we got set next to the teacher. 226 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:37,919 Speaker 7: Yeah exactly exactly. So do you ever is it ever 227 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,759 a challenge in terms of you know, because you're using 228 00:13:40,759 --> 00:13:42,879 your art to try to communicate things to people that 229 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:48,080 are not easy to communicate with words. Does that generally 230 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,960 is that pretty easy for you to express yourself that 231 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 way or do you ever run into challenges with that 232 00:13:53,039 --> 00:13:56,120 where maybe you create art that is not that you 233 00:13:56,159 --> 00:13:59,679 feel is not adequately portraying what it is that you're 234 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,759 trying to get across. 235 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,919 Speaker 8: When I do pretty pictures, yeah, I can create the 236 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,120 most beautiful, pretty flowers and everything like that and like 237 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:11,840 how I'm feeling in that moment, but you look at 238 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:17,320 it and it's it To me personally, it just feels generic. 239 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:23,960 And my art sometimes gets a little darkish, I guess, 240 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:28,320 And it's not for everybody, but the ones that do 241 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:32,960 understand it and can feel it, there's there's like a 242 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:36,919 group for that. But I can create art for all 243 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,919 types of groups, sure, I just and I also try 244 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:46,279 to fit it into what I'm doing. Like New Hampshire 245 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:51,720 Underground Terminus they did the punk rock Masquerade and I 246 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:54,559 was like, oh my gosh, I have to do this, 247 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,240 So I created masks in case people didn't bring their own, 248 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:01,360 they could purchase some. And I don't sell any of 249 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,000 my art for expensive prices because I feel I want 250 00:15:05,039 --> 00:15:08,919 my art to go out and it create, it just 251 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,919 builds something in me to create more when somebody wants 252 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:15,840 to buy my art. And so I created like a 253 00:15:15,879 --> 00:15:18,480 couple of them, and then I did a couple more, 254 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,440 and then I ended up like fifty of them and 255 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,080 I have five left. 256 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 9: So it was like amazing. 257 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 8: And then I went on to the next show she 258 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:34,759 did and I created what was it like zombie boxes? 259 00:15:35,399 --> 00:15:38,120 Will you survivor will you die? Like pick your fate? 260 00:15:38,279 --> 00:15:40,720 And I had things inside them, so. 261 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,759 Speaker 9: Like I loved. 262 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 8: Just creating things for things and it just I don't know, 263 00:15:47,559 --> 00:15:51,440 my brain just starts like firing off and I can't stop. 264 00:15:51,639 --> 00:15:57,559 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, I'm always amazed at you know, Jenny, she 265 00:15:57,639 --> 00:16:01,799 makes an incredible painting, you know, and it's uh and 266 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,519 you know, my brain is not Like I have no 267 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,000 in terms of visual art. I have no artistic ability whatsoever. 268 00:16:08,159 --> 00:16:09,720 You know, Like if you asked me to draw a person, 269 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,399 I could draw you a stick figure. That's a best set. 270 00:16:13,679 --> 00:16:18,559 I'm very comfortable with acknowledging my lack of ability in 271 00:16:18,559 --> 00:16:20,519 that area, you know. I mean I'm artistic in other ways, 272 00:16:20,559 --> 00:16:22,639 like I'm a musician, I can create music and whatnot, 273 00:16:22,679 --> 00:16:25,039 but I can't create any kind of visual art at all. 274 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,399 I hate it so much. So I was aware of 275 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,960 this from a very young age. When I was a kid, 276 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:34,240 I hated art class. I went to Saint John's Regional 277 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,039 and Conquered from grade two to grade eight, and these 278 00:16:38,159 --> 00:16:40,120 art teachers would come in like once a week or 279 00:16:40,159 --> 00:16:42,799 once every other week. It seemed like it wasn't very consistent, 280 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,240 but and I would feel like, like me and probably 281 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,879 a couple of the other kids in the class to 282 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,159 have about thirty kids, but I really felt this. I 283 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,120 felt like they were trying to force me to be 284 00:16:55,279 --> 00:16:58,399 artistic in a way that was not possible. I even 285 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,240 have a very specific memory of this. We're painting. We're 286 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,559 using watercolors or something to paint this stuff, and I 287 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,960 remember just sitting there at one point I remember this. 288 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,319 This memory sticks with me. I was in grade school. 289 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:13,559 I don't remember what grade, but I'm sitting there trying 290 00:17:13,559 --> 00:17:16,039 to paint this picture. And at a certain point, I'm 291 00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:19,119 just painting the same tree over and over. I'm just 292 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,119 going over and over because I'm trying to look busy 293 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:24,480 at that point, because I got to look like I'm 294 00:17:24,519 --> 00:17:27,000 doing something and then the art teacher actually comes over 295 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:28,559 and says to me, Matt, you're just painting the same 296 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:30,559 tree over and over. And I'm like, oh, that didn't work, 297 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:32,799 you know what I mean. But I but I recognize 298 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:37,279 that in myself pretty young, I have no ability that 299 00:17:37,519 --> 00:17:42,319 in that zone. So I always marvel at people who do, because, 300 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,160 you know, I look at Jenny's paintings, it's like, how 301 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,440 did you do that? Like, because my brain can't, you 302 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,279 know what I mean. Or Jenny makes this incredible macroma 303 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,680 and I'm like, my brain can't do the math because 304 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:54,480 it's geometry. 305 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 8: I've tried macromay and I can do plant hangers. Yeah, 306 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,200 but what she does there's like it's too much counting 307 00:18:02,279 --> 00:18:03,799 and it's wild. 308 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, I've tried it. It's fun. 309 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,759 Speaker 8: It's kind of you know, just sit there, nothing to 310 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:10,440 do and you can create something. 311 00:18:10,519 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 7: But yeah, yeah, and she'll and she'll tell you she's 312 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,720 not good at math, but clearly, on a subconscious level, 313 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,119 she's very good at geometry because you have to be 314 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,400 to do that, and she does it. It looks almost 315 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,000 effortless that when she does it, she'll she'll make stuff. 316 00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:30,000 During the show, she'll be she's not here today because 317 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,839 she's got an event, but you know, she'll be sitting 318 00:18:31,839 --> 00:18:33,559 over there just making stuff. And then at the end 319 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:35,000 of the show she says, Oh, look what I made. 320 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:38,359 It's like, how it's incredible. 321 00:18:38,599 --> 00:18:38,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 322 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 9: I actually I failed art class, did you. 323 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, like the in grade school, I got a's in it, 324 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:51,599 and then towards high school, junior high, high school, I 325 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,759 started failing. And it was because they were like they, 326 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,039 like you said they want. They were like forcing you 327 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,960 to do certain things. Yeah, and then I would do 328 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,480 it and They're like, you didn't do it this way. 329 00:19:02,599 --> 00:19:05,480 I'm like, I'm not that artist. I can't do that right, 330 00:19:05,839 --> 00:19:08,400 Like I put the effort in. I did what I 331 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,279 could do. Or they're like there's too much. I'm like, 332 00:19:10,319 --> 00:19:13,200 I don't I want all that there? Right, they're not 333 00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:15,319 enough there. I'm like I don't want anything there, and 334 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,519 they would get frustrated with me, and I was just 335 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,759 I didn't care. I'm like, I'm going to create art, yeah, 336 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:25,200 and that's what I do. I tried playing the clarinet 337 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,880 in sixth grade. My mom told me to stick with 338 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,640 the pencils. 339 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,799 Speaker 9: I was my family's musically inclined. 340 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 7: Okay. 341 00:19:33,279 --> 00:19:38,839 Speaker 8: My uncle played in a band when I was ten, 342 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,519 so like early nineties. 343 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,319 Speaker 9: It was the Wounded Hearts. He was the drummer. 344 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:44,559 Speaker 7: Okay. 345 00:19:44,039 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 9: He was actually the first band I ever did art for. 346 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,039 Speaker 7: Oh no kidding. 347 00:19:49,559 --> 00:19:50,519 Speaker 9: He asked me to. 348 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:55,279 Speaker 8: Create something for their band T shirt or something like that, 349 00:19:55,559 --> 00:19:58,359 and it was a handrew. I drew a hand holding 350 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:04,559 an atomic heart and it was leading and they didn't, 351 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,839 I guess go on or something happened. I'm not really sure. 352 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,680 I was sure I was ten, and then I've forgotten 353 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,880 about it for all these years. And then the next 354 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,000 one I started doing art or was six months combined, 355 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:24,039 and from there I've done Temple Mountain, I did photography 356 00:20:24,079 --> 00:20:26,200 for Esse Jesse Rustin. 357 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 7: And Jesse was here last week. 358 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, and then I did the album cover for Lacey 359 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,000 who am I? Yes, yes, yeah, I'm hoping to continue 360 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:39,599 to do more like that for other bands, especially the 361 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,759 newer bands, like I want them not to use AI, 362 00:20:43,079 --> 00:20:46,359 like please, you guys don't use AI to find the 363 00:20:46,519 --> 00:20:49,759 artists like myself, And there's so many of us out 364 00:20:49,799 --> 00:20:53,799 there that are like, I got nothing to do and 365 00:20:54,079 --> 00:20:58,079 I don't charge, Like I said, I don't charge a lot, especially. 366 00:20:57,559 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 9: For new bands. 367 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 7: Sure, sure, because all. 368 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 9: Of us are starting out. So who the heck has 369 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:02,799 all that money? 370 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,039 Speaker 7: Right? Right? If you're just joining us a crafty k 371 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,400 is that the right thing? And your Facebook handle my 372 00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:12,079 art by KF, my art by KF. I have a 373 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:12,720 mental block one. 374 00:21:12,799 --> 00:21:15,279 Speaker 8: Well it's my first and it's my initials. Okay, So 375 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:18,960 everything I do in my art instead of writing KF, 376 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,359 I do a heart with a K on it. 377 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 7: Okay. 378 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,279 Speaker 9: That way it kind of combines everything together. 379 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,799 Speaker 7: Okay, okay, and KF chaotic photography right, Yes, so you 380 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,000 spelled photography with an F. So for people looking for 381 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:33,240 you online, where's the best way for people to find 382 00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:33,799 you online? 383 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 9: I use Facebook more than I do Instagram. 384 00:21:36,319 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 7: Okay. 385 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:40,759 Speaker 8: Instagram only allows you to post so many pictures at 386 00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:43,480 a time, but Facebook I can load one hundred and 387 00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:44,200 something on there. 388 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:50,279 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, so you mentioned AI. This is another subject 389 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,759 that comes up all the time on the show, whether 390 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:57,400 it's whether it's about visual art or certainly about music. 391 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:02,680 I'm really curious to explore that subject with you a 392 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,279 little bit. I mean I mean what, like, like, what 393 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,359 is what is it that you tell? So what do 394 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,319 you tell? What do you tell musicians who you work 395 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,920 with when you're when you're having that conversation with them, Uh, like, like, 396 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,839 what what's kind of your pitch to say? Please don't 397 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,400 use AI. I know it's tempting, but please don't do it. 398 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,519 And here's why, Like what do you say AI? 399 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,319 Speaker 8: You can put in the words and you can describe 400 00:22:28,319 --> 00:22:32,279 what you want. AI will pop something up. Who's to 401 00:22:32,319 --> 00:22:36,680 say that's not going to be used for somebody else's description. 402 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,400 It could be just a little bit of a different color. 403 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,359 It could be used a little bit of different that. 404 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,960 And yes, same thing with artists, but you don't have 405 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,799 that freedom and openness of can we change. 406 00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 9: This a little bit? Can we change that a little bit? 407 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 8: Can we tweak this? Can we tweak that? Can we 408 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,759 add in this? Can we take this out? 409 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 7: Yeah? 410 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 8: Because you're trying to get a computer to understan stand what. 411 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 9: You want and that doesn't always happen. 412 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, So then you're just like, you know whatever, we're 413 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,519 just going to go with it and you're not totally 414 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:09,279 happy with it. 415 00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 9: But with me, I can. 416 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 8: Take I can take an eraser out and just yep, 417 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:16,400 I'll take that right out right, I'll move this and 418 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,200 we can choose the colors you want. We can choose 419 00:23:20,279 --> 00:23:26,759 the form like painting, pencil, pen photography. You have more 420 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,559 options than you do with AI. I mean AI is 421 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:36,640 great to use for some things, sure, but not for everything. 422 00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 7: Right right, yeah, I mean my own experience with it, 423 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,319 I can tell you it's hard to get it to 424 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,240 understand sometimes exactly what it is that you're looking for. 425 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,480 It is great for some things, but when it comes 426 00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:53,279 to graphics, when it comes to images, actually, my first 427 00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:55,039 time trying to make any kind of an image. We 428 00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:58,200 had done we had done a segment on the show 429 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,160 about I don't know if you follow it. There hasn't 430 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,839 been any new news on it, but the Daryl Hall 431 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,359 versus John Oates lawsuit, that whole legal drama. We had 432 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,119 done a segment on the show about it, and I 433 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:15,279 tried to get Dolly three to create I needed a 434 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:19,599 YouTube thumbnail and I wanted an image of Daryl Hall 435 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,119 and John Oates in a boxing ring and there and 436 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,559 they're boxing. I thought that would be funny. And this 437 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,680 was my first time trying to create a graphic using AI, 438 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,359 and it actually wouldn't do it. And I guess it's 439 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,599 got a rule about putting celebrities and violent situations or 440 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,240 that was because it actually told me why it couldn't 441 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:43,960 do it. 442 00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:46,039 Speaker 9: And see me, I don't have I don't have any restrictions. 443 00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 7: Right exactly exactly. Yeah, what ended up happening was so 444 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,160 I couldn't do the boxing thing, and I kept working 445 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,559 with it and trying to get it to compromise with me. 446 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,920 So what I finally came up with was it it 447 00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:02,279 created and I didn't even ask it to do this. Interestingly, 448 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,200 it didn't offer to give this to me specifically, but 449 00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:08,319 it offered me an alternative. But I went ahead and 450 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,920 created the alternative it was offering me, which was Daryl 451 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,920 Hall and John Oh, it's playing chess. And then it 452 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,599 said you know, because it said I can't give you 453 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,160 the boxing, but I can give you this, and it 454 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,000 just created it because like, oh that's interesting. And then 455 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:26,000 I asked it, can you put angry faces on them? 456 00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:29,440 Make them look angry? That was willing to do, and 457 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,480 so that's what it came out with. They're they're at 458 00:25:31,519 --> 00:25:33,559 a chess board and they look mad at each other. 459 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 8: It's a peaceful competitive sport, right, right. 460 00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 7: So it was willing to do the angry faces and 461 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,640 it kind of looks like them, it doesn't exactly look 462 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,240 like them. 463 00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:46,319 Speaker 8: But yeah, well like and my other thing, like I 464 00:25:46,319 --> 00:25:48,480 said earlier, is you give me one you can have 465 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:52,559 that one idea, and my brain will just start popping 466 00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:53,119 things and I'm. 467 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 9: Like, well, what if you did? What if this? What 468 00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:56,279 if that? 469 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,519 Speaker 8: Or what do you think about this? And he starts 470 00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:03,920 getting other people's brains going in there. Sure like oh, 471 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,519 and then they start getting a bunch of ideas. Yeah, 472 00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:08,839 it happens all the time in my little circle. 473 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. So you've done a lot 474 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,359 of work with six minds combined, right, Yes, that's because 475 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,440 we were talking off air about you know, what should 476 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,400 we play for music? Coming into the segment. That's my 477 00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:26,559 favorite song of his. I love Yeah, I love that. 478 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,839 The we had we had Rick on the show. It's 479 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,160 probably more than a year ago. Now it all becomes 480 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,720 a blur. But I remember telling him too, I said 481 00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:38,440 that that song, that's one of those songs that after 482 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,119 I heard it, I would wake up with it playing 483 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,039 in my brain because I always, like a lot of us, 484 00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:43,920 you know, when I wake up in the morning, there's 485 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,640 always a song playing in my mind, and uh, you know, 486 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,720 I have that little wake up playlist and that was 487 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,799 that was the first one I would hear for a 488 00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:52,960 long time. I would just wake up in the morning 489 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,599 and here, uh, you know that you got this. 490 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 8: It gets stuck in my head when somebody says they 491 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,559 can't do something. Yeah, And then all of a sudden, 492 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,799 I started singing. 493 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so you've You've done a lot of work. 494 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 8: With him, right, Yes, I've known him since I was 495 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:17,160 fourteen fifteen, Yeah, and he started becoming six minds combined, and. 496 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 9: He asked to create. 497 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,799 Speaker 8: Like I've created a few things. I created his album 498 00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:31,200 cover for him. Okay, the front and the back Okay, 499 00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:33,880 the back of it is just his mind exploding with 500 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,279 all the all the songs, okay, and the front was 501 00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,279 his idea, and I took what he gave me for 502 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,519 what his image was, and I put it into a painting. 503 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,480 I've done his new logo, which is going to be 504 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,279 coming out, and I'm not sure if I was supposed 505 00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:52,799 to tell anybody that I love you. 506 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:53,759 Speaker 9: I'm sorry. 507 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 7: A little teaser there, that's good. 508 00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 9: There's a movie. 509 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,599 Speaker 7: Do we know when? Do we have an ETA on 510 00:27:58,559 --> 00:27:59,839 the new logo? My drop? 511 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 8: I'm not sure yet I do know he's got some 512 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:11,240 new merchandise coming out. He also will be having a 513 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:17,680 new video or champion that I'm working I'm helping work 514 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,839 on excellent and it's gonna be something me and him 515 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,519 I had, like we always talked about making a comic 516 00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:27,680 book together. Really yes, and it kind of goes along 517 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,759 those lines a little bit. I helped him with running 518 00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:37,000 through a mansion. I helped video film it. That's not 519 00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:40,839 the right word, but me and Eleanor we both did that. 520 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,519 They put it together. I had this after hearing that song. 521 00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:49,000 It was like again just sparks flying in my head 522 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:52,200 and you know what, and then we we should do 523 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:54,200 this in the mansion. And then when we went to 524 00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:57,160 the mansion, we were not allowed to videotape. We even 525 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,759 got like followed to like like towards again like on 526 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,839 the grounds. There was like some security guy walking behind us. 527 00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 7: Well, so so I'm really curious about this. So what 528 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,200 So you went to a mansion, did you like? Where? 529 00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:10,000 Like what mansion? 530 00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:11,279 Speaker 9: The Breaker House? 531 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 7: Where's that rd Island? 532 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,039 Speaker 8: Okay, So we went down there and that place was huge. 533 00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:18,960 I would not want to ever have to clean it. 534 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,079 Speaker 7: So you went there with the intention so is that 535 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,519 it's hard to get something open to the public. 536 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,279 Speaker 8: Yes, I mean you you pay a fee to visit it. Okay, 537 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,880 you could take photography, but you couldn't videotape anything use 538 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,799 it for like social media things like that. 539 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 7: Did you did you know that going in or like not. 540 00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 9: Until we got there? 541 00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 8: Okay, but we did like get some good shots like 542 00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:45,720 small little here and there. 543 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,039 Speaker 7: So how did you How did you do it? Like 544 00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:48,640 did you have to do it kind of covertly or 545 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,440 how did how does that work? Yeah? 546 00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 9: I mean there were some things that I was like, dude, 547 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,480 do it now? 548 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 7: Yeah? 549 00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:59,799 Speaker 8: Yeah, But so that idea kind of went just like that. 550 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,119 I was like, you know what, everybody's mansion is their home. 551 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:04,359 Speaker 9: It's there. 552 00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:08,599 Speaker 8: It's so I was like, how about we do it 553 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,319 in a house. Like a person's mansion is their home. 554 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,359 It doesn't have to be an actual mansion, right right, 555 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,359 Like their mansion is their home where they live. And 556 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,240 it it ended up working out, which was amazing. 557 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, oh interesting. What now what did you end 558 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000 up doing with the stuff that you took in the 559 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,559 actual mansion in Rhode Island? Anything? 560 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,519 Speaker 8: There's some clips of it in the in the video 561 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,160 what we could use. That wasn't so much like showing 562 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,519 anything interesting. 563 00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:40,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but it was. 564 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:41,559 Speaker 9: It was fun. 565 00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, try to be sneaky into it, like we were 566 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,880 breaking the law. 567 00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:50,119 Speaker 7: Right right, Hey, it's all rock and roll, right do 568 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:50,680 you so? 569 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,079 Speaker 9: Do you do a lot of album covers or I? 570 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,559 Speaker 8: After I did six Months Combined, Temple Mountain reached out 571 00:30:57,599 --> 00:30:58,559 to me and I. 572 00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,839 Speaker 7: Did, Yeah, I love Eric. Yeah. 573 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 9: I did his album cover for Lonely. 574 00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 8: He sent me a clip of it and immediately I 575 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,039 was like, I got this and it's the picture of 576 00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:15,799 a guy sitting on a bench with a woman's face 577 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,640 up in kind of like the clouds, and he's just 578 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:24,319 sitting there like kind of just defeated, sad, you know, Lonely. 579 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,160 And then after that, Jesse Rustin asked me to do 580 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,799 some work for him and he wanted photography, so we 581 00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,480 went to his studio and did photography there. And then 582 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,559 after that was who Am I and Thrax So I 583 00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:44,839 did their album cover for Hot Wax and. 584 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 9: She gave me the color scheme. 585 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,799 Speaker 8: And I was sitting there and I was trying to 586 00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:53,480 think of things to do, and I took an image 587 00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:58,480 of Racks on the drums and Lacy on the keyboard 588 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,839 and then her why had done a record, So I 589 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,839 took the record and then I made it look like 590 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,400 it was melting wax coming down and creating them. Yeah, 591 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,920 it's cool created them and it's amazing to see that 592 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,200 painting and the color of lights that Placy does. It 593 00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:20,440 changes the colors on the painting. 594 00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:23,839 Speaker 9: It's so trippy. It's awesome. 595 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,039 Speaker 7: That must be exciting too, to have anup when you 596 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:31,279 have an opportunity to work with somebody who is very visual, 597 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,599 you know obviously what what who I am and thracks 598 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,799 what they're doing. It's very visual, right, So to be 599 00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:39,319 able to that must be that just must be fun it. 600 00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 8: I love it like I love music, I love art. 601 00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:47,319 Speaker 9: I I do like people. 602 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 8: Not all people, sure, the world the way the world is, 603 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:59,279 but it's I love the open creativity, the the compassion, 604 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,559 the encouragement. Like nobody's trying to compete with each other, 605 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,519 and when there's people trying to compete with me, I'm 606 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,640 like why, I'm like, you do what you do. 607 00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 9: I'm going to do what I do. 608 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,559 Speaker 8: Like I don't call myself anything other than an artist, 609 00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:20,960 and if I see something I want to do, I'm 610 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,920 going to try to do it. And I did that 611 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,720 even in all my jobs. I delivered pizza, I worked 612 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,279 at daycares, I sold luggage, I worked for a sewer company. Yeah, 613 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,799 I like, and now I've been in pharmacy for twenty 614 00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:38,240 two years. But it's because there's also a whole lot 615 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,880 of how does that work? What do you do there? 616 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,119 And it's the same thing with my art. I have 617 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,559 no idea how to paint. I have no idea what 618 00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:50,480 I'm doing, but I wonder if this will work? 619 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 9: How do I do this? 620 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,599 Speaker 8: And then it Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. 621 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,039 And there are some canvases. Let me tell you, there 622 00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:01,720 is a lot of layers of paint, lots of it 623 00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:04,559 because if I don't like it, I just paint over 624 00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:05,720 it and start to Yeah. 625 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,639 Speaker 7: And now, what do you mean about like like people 626 00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:11,920 trying to compete with with you? Like what like is 627 00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,360 it is it competitive in terms of you know, like 628 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,440 doing doing artwork for musicians? Is that No? 629 00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 8: I think competitive is like You're always going to have that. 630 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,960 Like it's just like a job you go in for 631 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,199 your interview, you get hired or you don't get hired. 632 00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:34,000 That part's not the competitive part. It's when people start 633 00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,960 talking bad about your art or about how you do 634 00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:43,199 your art really or like oh, like they did that, 635 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,639 Like I don't like that. If you don't like it, 636 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,920 then just do what we've always been told is if 637 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,719 you ain't got nothing nice to say, don't say anything 638 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,079 at all. Like I'm not going to know any different. 639 00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:57,840 But when you start saying bad things about somebody's art 640 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,480 instead of encouraging them to do or do better, that 641 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,360 just brings that person down. They don't want to create 642 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,719 the art, and then they suppress. 643 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 7: Is that is that like like other artists like criticizing 644 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,559 your process or something. 645 00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:13,119 Speaker 9: I mean, I don't mind criticism whatsoever. 646 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 7: Sure, constructive criticism is exactly fine. 647 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,079 Speaker 8: But when you're just like downing somebody because of what 648 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,679 they do or how they do it or what they 649 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,960 used to do it, or you know, anything like that, 650 00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:31,159 it's just it does take. It takes a little bit 651 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,719 from you and it kind of like ouch, like what 652 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,159 did I do? And then at the same time, I'm 653 00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:43,480 the type of person that's I've doubt narcissists, and I'm 654 00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:45,679 like the best way to deal with somebody like that, 655 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,079 I'm gonna keep doing what I do with a smile 656 00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:50,679 at my face and I'm just gonna do it better, 657 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,360 So like, bring it, but I'd rather not the negativity 658 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,800 of things like that around me. 659 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 9: So like musicians playing and somebody's. 660 00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:02,519 Speaker 8: Like, ugh, like you might not like it, but don't 661 00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:07,440 tell them, right if you have some constructive criticism on it, 662 00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:11,880 like hey, I didn't really like that because and then say. 663 00:36:11,679 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 9: Why yeah, yeah, don't just like I don't like that, right. 664 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 8: Well, it's like you just it's like watching the show 665 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,000 and you get all the way to the end and 666 00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:23,920 then it's a cliffhanger. 667 00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:26,199 Speaker 9: And you're like, wait, wait, what happened? What happened? And 668 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,239 then you never know. 669 00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,079 Speaker 8: Right, it's the same way of going I don't like it, 670 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,400 Why tell me like it? 671 00:36:33,519 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 7: Right? 672 00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:37,519 Speaker 8: Because I might create something you don't like, but tomorrow 673 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:38,800 might create something you love. 674 00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, exactly exactly if you are just showing us 675 00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:46,320 we have a crafty k from Chaotic Photography and my 676 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,599 art by KF that I get it right. Cool, I'm 677 00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:52,800 glad I got it right. Sometimes I worry I'm suffering 678 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:58,400 from adult onset dyslexia. But no, and we're having a 679 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,440 great conversation today about art and about you know, working 680 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,960 with musicians. Is there anyone you've worked with who who 681 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,360 presented a unique challenge in terms of where it was 682 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,000 maybe difficult to find the right aesthetic for what they're doing, 683 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:17,639 maybe for their album cover or I mean, I don't 684 00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:19,440 mean that in a bad way, you know, but but 685 00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:21,599 just is there anyone you've worked with who it was 686 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,599 it was it took a little more to kind of 687 00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:24,639 figure out where to go with it. 688 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 9: I did have somebody come message me. 689 00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 8: About Creed about what they want for their album cover, 690 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:38,880 and I asked, they want like a certain like background, 691 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,760 seeing like an apocalypse kind of thing, and I was like, yeah, 692 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,719 I was like I can do that. 693 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 9: Like what kind of medium do you want? They wanted 694 00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:47,079 like a photography. 695 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,159 Speaker 8: That's more difficult because you're not going to get the 696 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,719 right colors, you're not going to get the right kind 697 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:56,679 of visual. 698 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 9: And also talking. 699 00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 8: Through Texas so hard, oh yeah, because it's hard to understand, 700 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,199 like see their thought process, and I haven't. 701 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,599 Speaker 9: Like I did send a few things and it just 702 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:16,519 wasn't there. So he's just moved on, I believe, to 703 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,159 somebody else that might be able to do it, because. 704 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 8: I wasn't able to. But I at least offered a 705 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,519 few things. It was almost like like I said, an interview. 706 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, well that can be hard to write if 707 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,119 somebody because somebody might have an idea, I might have 708 00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:34,239 a vision in their mind, but they can't find the 709 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,800 right words to communicate it, you know. 710 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 8: And that's what's my that's what I do with my art. Yeah, 711 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,599 I can't think of certain words, Yeah, the correct words 712 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:46,480 to say. I do it through my art and when 713 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,800 someone's trying to tell me something because they can see it, 714 00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:52,440 but they can't get it into words, but they don't 715 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,840 have the ability to put it on canvas or paper either, 716 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,960 So like I can understand that being the most frustrating thing. 717 00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:05,079 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like uh, you know, like like me, 718 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,079 someone who has no visual artistic ability. If I, you know, 719 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:11,199 if I'm trying to communicate to somebody, like sometimes I 720 00:39:11,199 --> 00:39:13,480 don't know the like I don't know the vocabulary of 721 00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,920 you know, for what I'm trying to tell them that 722 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,480 I want, you know, just to see artistically. Yeah, that 723 00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:24,119 can be that can be tricky. Now, how does it 724 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:26,000 work in terms of you coming to work with some 725 00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:28,400 of these artists? Do they approach you? Do you approach them, 726 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,159 does it depend? 727 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 8: So after I take after I take photos of them 728 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,159 when they're playing, I show them a few of them 729 00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:38,679 that I have done, and I send that. I send 730 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,360 them the photos and the only thing I ask for 731 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,639 for those is photo credit. 732 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,079 Speaker 7: Yeah. 733 00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:47,199 Speaker 9: Yeah, And I also offer if you need any artistic 734 00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:52,679 guidance or any work done, anything like that, just reach 735 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,519 out to me and we can see what we can 736 00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:55,960 work out. 737 00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 7: Yeah. 738 00:39:56,519 --> 00:40:01,559 Speaker 9: So I don't push it, yeah, like either because I 739 00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:06,320 don't like I don't like. I don't like those pushy 740 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,760 people like you know, I can do this. I can 741 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,960 do this like buy myself by my stuff right right, 742 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,480 Like I hate selling my own stuff. I am not 743 00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:15,800 good at it whatsoever. 744 00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 7: Well, the interesting thing, though, is for what you do, 745 00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:24,280 you kind of you really have an advantage in that 746 00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:30,440 you can you can show them what what you can 747 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,079 do right up front, right like if you're if you're 748 00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:35,559 taking pictures, and you can show them, look, these are 749 00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:37,719 some photos I took of your live performance or whatever 750 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,559 it was. You know, then they see they can see 751 00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:42,800 right off, right off the bat that you're legit. You 752 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,880 obviously know what you're doing because you take great pictures. 753 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,039 Speaker 8: And I have my art hanging up in the hallway exactly. 754 00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:48,639 Speaker 7: Yeah. 755 00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 8: Yes, New Hampshire Underground and Terminus has been like it's 756 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,440 They've been a blessing. Eleanor has helped me in so 757 00:40:57,639 --> 00:40:59,800 many ways this past year and it's. 758 00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:02,119 Speaker 9: Only been a year. Yeah, I feel like I've known. 759 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 7: Her for ever really, Yeah. 760 00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:08,039 Speaker 8: And she's helped me more ways than she can imagine. 761 00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:09,679 Like she's always like, what do you Because I don't 762 00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:13,480 care about status, I don't I don't care about any 763 00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:15,960 of that, and she's like, what do you? I'm like, 764 00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:19,039 you what you're doing for me? And they let me 765 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:23,079 put so much art up and all over there and 766 00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:26,320 I love it and I appreciate it so much because 767 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,639 of my creativity. I'm like, oh, there's blank space. 768 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 9: On that wall. 769 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 7: No, that's that's amazing. When you're taking pictures of like 770 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,719 say you're taking pictures of someone performing live, is there 771 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,079 is there kind of a method to that, I mean, 772 00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:44,639 or are you just like, oh this this would make 773 00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:46,519 a good shot, I'm going to take this picture, or 774 00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:48,360 I mean, do you have a strategy for that or 775 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,559 do you just kind of do it instinctively or I just. 776 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,599 Speaker 8: Do it instinctively, like kind of like candid. Yeah, they 777 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,880 I tell them. I tell them all, don't look at me. 778 00:41:57,559 --> 00:42:01,559 I'm not there, like I do, cross that green line, 779 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,159 step on me, step over me, just keep playing. Sure, 780 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,320 I'm going to get the shot, but you need to 781 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,519 continue to play right. And I do apologize to people 782 00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:12,400 out there that when I'm in their shot, because I'm 783 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,039 sure there's like some shots that people like. I like 784 00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:21,519 getting back to where the drummer is and getting photos 785 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:26,039 of the crowd because the crowd doesn't get to see 786 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,119 what the band sees, right, And then I'm taking pictures 787 00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,800 of the band of what the crowd sees that the 788 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,840 band doesn't get to see. 789 00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 7: I love those personal like, I love those kind of pictures. Yeah. 790 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 8: I like seeing both sides, and sometimes like seeing the crowd. 791 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,679 I like to show them because sometimes they're just like 792 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,239 standing there sure and I'm like, hey, it's just some 793 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:48,639 other thing. 794 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, but. 795 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 8: It just shows how many people like you get to 796 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,400 see both sides. 797 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,159 Speaker 9: So it's both sides of the story. 798 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's a great way of putting it. 799 00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:03,559 When you when you tell somebody, hey, I need a 800 00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:06,000 candid shot, don't don't look at me, just do what 801 00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:08,719 you're doing. Do some people struggle with that? Yes, I 802 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,320 expected yeah. 803 00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:13,079 Speaker 8: They do, because like they'll look at me and smile. 804 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,280 But six Minds Combined is the only one that I 805 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,320 have allowed to We have a he's going to pause 806 00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:24,239 and I got to get the shot because he moves 807 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,159 so much. Okay, yeah, and sometimes like his I'll go 808 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,559 to get that great shot in his hand, or he 809 00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:33,119 moves his face and he I'm like, so we have 810 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,480 like these like make eye contact and he kind of 811 00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:38,239 pauses just like his movement so I can get the shot. 812 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 7: Okay, okay, yeah. 813 00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 9: Because I'm like, dude, I'm like, I've raised so many photos. 814 00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 7: But it's cool that you have that understanding with him 815 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,239 and he gets it obviously, and he's able to accommodate 816 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,320 that and you're able to work together that way. That's uh, 817 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,880 that's great. Oh, I want to make sure we don't 818 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,760 forget this. You showed me something off air, a book, 819 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,760 and we do have for those For those watching online, 820 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:06,280 you'll be able to see this because she's holding it 821 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,559 up and if you're if you're just listening, you know, 822 00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:10,559 radio is theater of the mind. You'll have to imagine this. 823 00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:13,400 But but this is really cool. Okay, So tell us 824 00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:14,679 what you've got in your hand there. 825 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,519 Speaker 9: So this was a book. 826 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 8: It's called Kaw c Aw by Clay hurt Bus. I 827 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,880 am really sorry Clay if I just butchered. So back 828 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,760 in the early two thousands, we worked together and he 829 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,960 was writing a book and he's written several and he 830 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,000 asked me if I would do some artwork for him, 831 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,360 and I was like yeah. I was like that would 832 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,119 be awesome, and he's gonna publish it and everything, and 833 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,360 he had some medical issues and I'm not sure what 834 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,840 happened in between all the time that I've seen him 835 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,639 to the time we published it, because he had moved, okay, 836 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:57,679 and I finally we finally contacted each other again through 837 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:03,000 Facebook just recently, and and he published the book last 838 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,880 last year in twenty twenty four. In the book, because 839 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,440 he didn't know my last name, he didn't put my 840 00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:13,039 name in there as an illustrator. But when you look 841 00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:16,920 up online about the book, it says my name as 842 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,400 the illustrator. But when he had found me on Facebook, 843 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,039 my name was my name and my daughter's name. Okay, 844 00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:28,119 so the illustration name is Keagan Lily. Oh, so I 845 00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:31,760 think that is going forward might be my new illustration name. 846 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:32,639 Speaker 7: Oh that's cool. 847 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 8: But the book is in English and every single language 848 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,719 you can think of on Facebook. Wow, it's Chinese. This 849 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,760 one's English and Chinese and it's double sided. 850 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 3: But my. 851 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 8: Art at it's old art from before it kind of 852 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,239 got a little more talented. But it's it's amazing that 853 00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:59,800 he saved him. Yeah, and like my art is international 854 00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:04,119 wild and just seeing it in a book, I was like, 855 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,960 I've always wanted to be an illustrator of children's books 856 00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:11,400 and stuff like that, but it was it's really. 857 00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:14,199 Speaker 9: An awesome feeling to that's crazy. 858 00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 8: Everything that I have wanted and everything I'm working for 859 00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:22,880 actually getting there. And I got to thank Eddie for 860 00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:26,840 a lot of it, because if he didn't push me 861 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,840 to open my Facebook, like he just supports me a lot, 862 00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:37,239 especially with my photography, Like we'll be at the show 863 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,559 together and then all of a sudden running off to 864 00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:45,440 take photos and he sits there and watches me paint 865 00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:50,960 for hours, create whatever I'm creating it, but he he 866 00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:55,119 supports me, doesn't try to be like you're painting. 867 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 7: Again, right right? 868 00:46:57,039 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 8: And I have gotten paint on like so many things, 869 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,039 even our own even our own comforter and really I 870 00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:05,840 paint like I paint on me now. 871 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 9: But he supports me in it, and I love him that. 872 00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:14,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's wonderful. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, no, it's so important 873 00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:17,480 to have a creative partner for for people watching on video. 874 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,920 Why don't you hold that up one more time? Yeah, 875 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,000 so people can see it? And then and where can 876 00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:22,000 people get that book? 877 00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:25,280 Speaker 9: Facebook? I mean not Facebook, Amazon. 878 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 7: Amazon, a w And did he did he inscribe that 879 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,079 for you too? Did he write something inside of it? 880 00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:35,119 Speaker 8: Because I saw he said, Keagan, thanks for the beautiful artwork. 881 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,559 Speaker 7: Very nice. That is so cool and so that was 882 00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:40,320 a surprise right when that came out. 883 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, because he said I published the book, and I 884 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,519 was like, no way, And so I looked it up 885 00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:51,599 and he sent them. I bought one prior to him 886 00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:54,559 sending it to me. My mom's like I want that, 887 00:47:55,079 --> 00:47:57,760 Like you can have it. He's sending me one, and 888 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,000 he sent me two of. 889 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 9: Them, hardcover. In the soft cover yeah. 890 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,760 Speaker 8: The other one's English and Swedish kidding, and he wrote 891 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,360 in both of them. But it was amazing and it's 892 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,400 so weird to see my artwork in there because I 893 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,239 remember doing it and just the style of it. 894 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,119 Speaker 9: I'm like, yeah, that's. 895 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 7: Totally that's extremely cool. So what's kind of your your 896 00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:26,519 long term trajectory do you think or do you know, 897 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,360 like do you want to do you wanna do you 898 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,920 have like a focus like like is it is it 899 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,960 doing artwork for for album covers? Is it photography? Is it? 900 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 9: Do you know just doing art? 901 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 7: Ye? See where it. 902 00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 9: I don't want it to be a job. I love 903 00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:45,480 doing art. 904 00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:48,159 Speaker 8: I don't want it to become a job because really, 905 00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:50,239 if you think about it, if that's where you're gonna go. 906 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,159 Speaker 9: I gotta go do this. I gotta go do this. 907 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 8: Like you don't want to do it because you have to. Yeah, 908 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,920 I want I do it because I want to do 909 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,400 it because I have that freedom of it's my like, 910 00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:04,119 it's my getaway, my break, it's. 911 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,119 Speaker 9: My Higgins world. 912 00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 8: But it's the minute it becomes a job, I'm like, 913 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,679 I'm not interested anymore and I want to just be 914 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,559 able to do it or don't do it right. And 915 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,719 I mean I loved I love doing it, So don't 916 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,199 get me wrong. I'm not going to be like I 917 00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:25,800 don't want to do that. But if there is something 918 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,199 that I'm just I'm just not in the mood for it, 919 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,599 or I don't have the time. I want to be 920 00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:32,000 able to say I'm sorry, I don't have the time 921 00:49:32,039 --> 00:49:35,360 to do this. And then but I know other artists 922 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,199 because I met some amazing artists. 923 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,159 Speaker 7: Oh I can imagine. 924 00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:47,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, Lily's amazing, and I've met Chelsea, she's an amazing photographer. 925 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:53,320 And there's so many options, especially meeting all through New 926 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:58,519 Hampshire Underground. They have Andrea and Eleanor has brought so 927 00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:01,440 many of us together, Like I finally found like a 928 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,639 group I can relate to and belong to and like 929 00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:10,000 feel comfortable and not like at one of those fancy, 930 00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:12,800 like little cliche art galleryes. 931 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:13,159 Speaker 7: Yeah. 932 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,559 Speaker 8: Yeah, and everyone's kind of like snubbing you. And because 933 00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:19,719 I mean obviously I don't dress like I belong in there. 934 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,079 I paint on my own pants. 935 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, Jenny had her art hanging there at one point, 936 00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:32,199 which was really cool. And and actually, you know I 937 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,480 mentioned earlier we had Jesse Rutstein along with Caleb Die 938 00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:39,119 Caleb Dyer here on the show last week, and we 939 00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:42,719 met Jesse at Terminus during the open house. 940 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 9: Yes, he actually just played last weekend. 941 00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 7: Oh right, right, yeah, after Yeah, after the it was 942 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,119 the same same weekend as the interview. Yeah yeah, so yeah, No, 943 00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:54,800 they've done They've done a wonderful job there, And you're 944 00:50:54,880 --> 00:51:00,199 right bringing people together absolutely absolutely so. Now if somebody, 945 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,239 you know, because a lot of musicians listen to the show, 946 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,360 a lot of industry people, if somebody wants to work 947 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,880 with you, like, what's the best way for them to 948 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:07,519 reach out to you? 949 00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:12,320 Speaker 8: This message me on Facebook? Yeah, like through Facebook Messenger. Yeah, 950 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,840 I'm really horrible about my email, which I try not 951 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,679 to be. But my email addresses on my business cards. 952 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,280 But it also has my Instagram and my Facebook on there. 953 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 7: Okay, and how do they find you on Facebook? 954 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 3: Again? 955 00:51:25,679 --> 00:51:28,559 Speaker 9: But my art by kf All one word okay. 956 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,559 Speaker 8: And then it's got a picture of a pink and 957 00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:34,960 black lily, which I put that on my business card. 958 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,280 Speaker 7: For my daughter. Oh okay. 959 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 8: It's a show her that it doesn't matter when you start, 960 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,639 you can do whatever you want to do. 961 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,199 Speaker 9: You can create things. 962 00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 7: Yeah. No, I think that's really cool. 963 00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 8: Even she's benefited. Her first concert was Green Jello, Yes. 964 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 7: Jelly at at Terminus. Yes. 965 00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:59,599 Speaker 8: She passed kindergarten screening and she got to go through 966 00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:00,280 a pool. 967 00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 7: Nice. Yeah, that was quite a night. Yeah, that all 968 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,320 happened because Green Jelly or Jello, I never know which 969 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,360 to call him. Uh they had been on the show 970 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,480 and then uh Bill was talking to Jenny about you know, 971 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,480 where can we play in New Hampshire when we come 972 00:52:17,519 --> 00:52:20,679 back through And then Jenny connected with Eleanor and worked 973 00:52:20,679 --> 00:52:22,360 on that and getting that all booked and that was 974 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,360 a lot of fun. Although they when they were on 975 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,000 the show that day, so it's probably one of my 976 00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:29,719 most favorite interviews ever, but also the most nerve wracking. 977 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,639 I think I hit the dump button because we're on 978 00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:34,039 an eight second delay in case anything, you know. I 979 00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:37,039 think I hit the dump button five times during during that, 980 00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:39,119 and the whole time I'm just sit here like, don't 981 00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:40,440 get me fired, don't get me fired. 982 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 8: I'm being surprised by my own self because the F 983 00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:50,920 bomb is like I'm Irish. Yeah, it's the word like 984 00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:54,840 ye in Ireland. Yeah, so it's natural, and I'm like, 985 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:55,800 don't swear. 986 00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:58,320 Speaker 7: No, You've You've done great well. The thing is, though, 987 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,199 that the trick is to not not worry about and 988 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,719 overthink it because so many people they come on the 989 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,239 show and they're like, oh, I hope. I don't swear. Oh, 990 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,559 but I don't swear. And it's the people who worry 991 00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:08,039 about it, you know, they worry about it and then 992 00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:10,840 then it ends up being fine. But like I tell everybody, 993 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,000 we're on an eight second delay, so if the worst happens, 994 00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:16,960 I can catch it. But uh, but no, I think. 995 00:53:17,039 --> 00:53:19,119 I think when when those guys were on the show, 996 00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:21,119 I think I hit the dump button five times total. 997 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,880 And it wasn't all swears. A couple you know, there 998 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,400 might have been a drug reference. I was uncomfortable with, 999 00:53:26,599 --> 00:53:29,199 you know, just anything it went in doubt, I reached 1000 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:29,840 for the dump. 1001 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,559 Speaker 8: Slim had a really big effect on Lily, like she 1002 00:53:33,639 --> 00:53:37,159 wanted she had a Yuku Leley but like she wanted 1003 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,000 to be a rock jammer. 1004 00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 7: Oh that's cool. 1005 00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 8: She would have me take it. She had me take 1006 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,199 a video and then send it to her. Yeah, And 1007 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,400 it was It's cute because Slim ended up sending her 1008 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,800 a video thing like happy Birthday to her. 1009 00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:51,599 Speaker 9: It was like. 1010 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,679 Speaker 8: Really great, Like it's just showing that these other artists 1011 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,280 inspire other people. Yes, doesn't matter what age group. Yeah, 1012 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,760 and Slim was afraid, like she would scare Lily at 1013 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,960 the show. Oh no kidding, And because Lily was kind 1014 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,400 of like, oh, what are you wearing? Yeah, and that 1015 00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:11,360 was her biggest thing. Oh wow, wasn't afraid of her, 1016 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,679 but she's like, uh, what are you wearing? And then 1017 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,480 after that she's like, I want to be like her, 1018 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:16,760 I want to be a rock star. 1019 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 9: I was like, all right, go for it, kid. 1020 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 7: Oh wow, Oh that's cool, that's very cool. 1021 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,599 Speaker 8: Now she's on to now she wants to be a 1022 00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:25,639 Samurais or whatever thing. 1023 00:54:26,039 --> 00:54:34,599 Speaker 7: Okay, fair enough, well, Kegan crafty k, thank you so much. 1024 00:54:34,639 --> 00:54:35,480 This has been wonderful. 1025 00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1026 00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 7: We'll definitely do it again in the future. And uh, 1027 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,920 I think we should probably close out with who I 1028 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,639 Am track from Hot Wax. I was thinking maybe glow 1029 00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:46,920 to end the segment, and thank you everyone who joined 1030 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,639 us to doaw on the show. Of course, Jamie Higgs 1031 00:54:48,679 --> 00:54:50,880 in the second hour and in the first hour we 1032 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,000 had three times seven both via WhatsApp all the way 1033 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,320 from the UK. And if you missed any part of 1034 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,800 today's show, it will be up in just a little 1035 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,159 bit at wmnhradio dot org and at my website Matt 1036 00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:04,320 Connorton dot com. Jenny is not here today, but she 1037 00:55:04,519 --> 00:55:06,920 is at an event or on her way to an event, 1038 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,599 going on and conquered. So make sure to keep up 1039 00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:12,639 with everything she's doing. Go to Jencoffee dot com. She's 1040 00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:14,960 doing a lot of great activism. I'm so proud of her. 1041 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,079 And if you want to keep up with everything I'm doing, 1042 00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:19,159 you can go to Matt connorton dot com. And this 1043 00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:21,679 is SummerSlam weekend, by the way, So keep an eye 1044 00:55:21,679 --> 00:55:24,559 on your social media because at some point Eric Pilcher 1045 00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:26,800 and I are going to do a live stream of 1046 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,480 Tough Bumps, probably tonight's night one of SummerSlam. So we'll 1047 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,960 probably go live after that and talk about what we 1048 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,199 saw on what happened and all that good stuff, and 1049 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,119 we might do another one tomorrow. We'll see. So there's 1050 00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:40,519 a lot going on, and so please just just keep 1051 00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:42,840 an eye on the socials and you'll be able to 1052 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,159 see it all. Let's see, so I think, yeah, so 1053 00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:48,039 we'll end with this, We'll end with glow. This is 1054 00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:51,400 from who I Am and Trax and their new release 1055 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,960 called Hot Wax and Crafty K. Thank you again, thank you, 1056 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,400 and oh and if you miss any part of today's 1057 00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,519 so it'll be up in just a little bit at 1058 00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:02,800 wm NS radio dot org at my website Matt Connorton 1059 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,480 dot com, and we'll talk at you all a little bit later. Bye, everybody. 1060 00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:29,639 Speaker 3: Bre chew show, show me your. 1061 00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:51,119 Speaker 10: Sh let me know you. 1062 00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:55,639 Speaker 5: I'm Sue. 1063 00:56:56,639 --> 00:57:03,519 Speaker 3: We're going gome go. 1064 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 11: Blow blow blow, I'd say, show shadow, shut up. 1065 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 3: Er By, guys. 1066 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 12: Praise, let me go up by, don't see this this gun. 1067 00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:44,840 They're gonna nay in. 1068 00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:51,239 Speaker 7: Let me go on. 1069 00:57:51,400 --> 00:58:09,679 Speaker 10: Well did you ever loveday? I think you. 1070 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,639 Speaker 3: Show show, shut up your. 1071 00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:24,559 Speaker 7: Guys, let it go. 1072 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 10: That's right, let's go on. You go at once you chose. 1073 00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:38,559 Speaker 1: It didn't every day. 1074 00:58:47,920 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 3: Fred Shore love love, I needn't give you. Learn your ride. 1075 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:49,679 Speaker 10: Show show show We never love the guys, bred less girls. 1076 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,639 Speaker 3: Let me go ball guys. 1077 00:59:56,039 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 11: Se