WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:05.400 You're listening to Everything out there with your host Steve Stockton. 2 00:00:16.879 --> 00:00:28.960 Hello, friends on the All. 3 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:38.719 Steve Stockton rolls jails of ghost and hundred homes through 4 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:45.840 the static weirdness. Fol Mister rees Ella. 5 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:58.320 Dared shows Western voices late at night, a bees outside, 6 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:08.079 Creepy Shadow, the Strange Delight, steerss cot to end the spread. 7 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:12.599 To in turn on here the. 8 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:23.159 Car funding eerie to the small broadcast of the weird world. 9 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:29.280 Every story growthsome mid. 10 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:47.439 Man man, let us from the void respond, let's. 11 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:55.120 Just get around his fun. Tell the party minds beyond. 12 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:57.319 Fear. 13 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:06.920 A curiosity corresponds the silence you can hear that can 14 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:14.560 mean the greatest steal from the realms of a long field. 15 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:32.680 Steve starting MASI in true song both Time for Love, 16 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:35.280 the love that chills, the Spy. 17 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:40.000 In the night, One Stars Alive. 18 00:02:42.039 --> 00:03:13.800 Steez tells keep the silence wife. 19 00:02:51.240 --> 00:03:53.879 And Hello, Hello everybody, Welcome back everything out there on 20 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:56.960 the Clyde Blewis Ground zero Radio Network. I'm Steve Stalkton. 21 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:59.639 Thank you for joining us here tonight and joining us 22 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:05.039 once again in encore presentation. Star Fox from star Fucker 23 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:08.280 or star Fox Radio rather from YouTube. Also the North 24 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:11.400 American dog Man Project. He's a journalist and a researcher, 25 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:14.199 boots on the ground kind of guy. Real good friend, 26 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:17.360 and I'm gonna be doing a bi weekly show with 27 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:21.480 him coming up. Looking forward to that. You might knowing 28 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:25.240 from YouTube be partners up with Jessica Jones, a cryptid huntress. 29 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:28.000 A lot of things. Got some good stuff over there. 30 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:32.519 I'll link the YouTube channel in the show notes star Fox. 31 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:33.480 How you doing it? I brother? 32 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:34.319 Why? 33 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:37.480 Hello, Steve? It's ironic how last time you said with 34 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:40.040 that epic introduction, you know, you felt like you weren't 35 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:41.560 going to be able to bring it up, but you 36 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:43.439 still did well. I mean, you just cost me a 37 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:46.959 pretty legendary introduction right there too, man, So do you 38 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:48.079 always appreciate it? 39 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:51.519 Fan's brother? But yeah, I had a good time over there, 40 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:53.680 and look like we pulled some good numbers too. I was. 41 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:54.639 I was happy with that. 42 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:57.399 No, so was I my friend, and I actually was 43 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:00.199 recently some other people that have been, you know, just 44 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:02.639 trying to filter through my thread and see, you know, 45 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:04.319 what they can do to help, you know, get me 46 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:07.680 more views. They actually told me a few couple things 47 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:10.240 that were beneficial, just something as simple as instead of 48 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:13.600 putting Midnight Lacanthropy episode so and so I now just 49 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.720 start it with like dog Man or you know, Bigfoot 50 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:19.079 versus dog Man, and then I just keep the thumbnail 51 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:22.839 with the Midnight Lacanthropy and then the actual episode number, 52 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.800 because I was reading through YouTube lately and having some 53 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:28.879 people update me, and I think it recognizes I don't 54 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:31.040 know if he said four to five words. Maybe, so 55 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.160 within those first couple of words, you really want what 56 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:36.639 it is that you want people to be searching about. 57 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:38.000 So hopefully that helps too. 58 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.920 Man. Yeah, No, the algorithm is a strange thing. It 59 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:44.920 can make you break it and constantly updating it, reprogramming it. 60 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:48.399 But it does look for words out of the show 61 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:51.800 title in the thumbnail. I know that, and in the description. 62 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:56.560 And use of hashtags helps too, But you don't want 63 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:58.519 to go overboard because then it seems to send it 64 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:03.439 the other ways. Tricky, but I've kind of got it 65 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:06.079 down to the science. I'm doing okay over there on 66 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:10.920 missing persons and mysteries, see how right now. Currently I'm 67 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:14.120 into three hundred and eight and two subscribers. I love 68 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:16.240 each and every one of them. I love what I do. 69 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:21.480 But tonight we're here on this broadcast for Clyde Lewis 70 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:26.439 Ground zero Radio Network. In fact, we're recording this Friday evening. 71 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:30.079 Clyde's doing a special show tonight from ten to one 72 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:33.920 am my time, where he's having all the show hosts 73 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:37.079 from the network come on. And so I've got to 74 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:39.759 have to look forward to after this busy, busy, busy. 75 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:43.480 That's the other secret. Stay busy, stay consistent, just keep 76 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.639 producing quality content. Defind your niche go with. 77 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:51.600 It, beautifully stated my friends. So ten night, you and 78 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:54.800 I have some pretty interesting stuff like always to speak 79 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:57.959 about to the audience. Yes, I try to keep the 80 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:02.839 majority of my dog stuff on STARFUCKX Radio and Midnilacanthrey. 81 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:06.240 I am obviously not opposed to answering that on anybody 82 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:09.759 else's podcast or speaking about it. I just have such 83 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:13.800 a plethora of pretty cool and really cool stuff that 84 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:16.680 has been stored in the file cabinets of my brain 85 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.240 that I need to clear the cash out because I 86 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:24.160 only actively look through historical aspects with the sinocephala or 87 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.800 references of potential doug headed people throughout history. So I've 88 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:32.720 been diving into cultures, cultures and cultures all across the 89 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:36.800 world beautiful stuff. But as stated, I just have so 90 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:39.800 much in my brain in general because I love to learn, 91 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:45.279 so whether it's dinosaurs, extinct animals, the evolution that's occurring 92 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:49.240 with primates right now, it's really great stuff. So I 93 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:52.920 first wanted to potentially hear your thoughts on the Jabbah 94 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:56.560 fo fi because I did always promise myself that if 95 00:07:56.560 --> 00:08:00.439 I got an opportunity for just a few to speak 96 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:04.839 on something outside of the dog man. But again, has 97 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:09.199 science and stuff suggesting this could potentially exist, but also 98 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.240 science suggesting it can't, and I just wanted to maybe 99 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:13.519 touch base on that for a few. 100 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:17.920 Okay, that big right now? What was the creature again? 101 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:20.480 That jabbah fofi? Have you heard of that? 102 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:22.839 No, you caught me with my pants down? I don't 103 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:25.680 think I've even heard of that one. Me and the 104 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:28.000 listeners what it is, and then I'll see if I 105 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:29.759 can form a yes. 106 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:33.840 All right, my friends. So again, though it does kind 107 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.080 of fall into what we're both covering and though with 108 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:39.679 people missing and such, except it's more an indigenous areas 109 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:43.759 where modern day cultures, as we would say, considering that 110 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:48.039 obviously these cultures are just as advanced in their own ways, 111 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.039 but cultures that are you know, in the jungles or 112 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.720 in the deep forests, so you know, unless they're reporting 113 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:57.039 it to their other members of their tribe that then 114 00:08:57.200 --> 00:08:59.519 get a chance to communicate with somebody such as yourself. 115 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:02.320 From us of it's not really documented, but when people 116 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:05.279 do go over there and actually sit down with them. 117 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:09.720 I believe the last really solid effort was oh Geez, 118 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:11.720 monster Quest what was that in two thousand and four 119 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:14.399 or something like that, and they had some really great 120 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:17.240 minds go over there and talk to the indigenous cultures. 121 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:22.120 And before I really dive into some science against it 122 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:25.039 and for it, I will give you the premises of 123 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:29.240 what's occurring these indigenous cultures. Whether it's in the Amazon. 124 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:32.840 They've been reported in Vietnam and I don't know if 125 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:36.080 it's the same version, but even people here in America 126 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:39.919 in some spots have reported seeing pretty large spiders. So 127 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:43.879 this jaba fofi apparently now is becoming harder and harder 128 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:47.399 to find because of a the fact that these indigenous 129 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:50.399 cultures purposely tried to dispose of them, but also the 130 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:53.399 encroachment on the jungle and such. But what they would 131 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:58.639 do is they would put large nests between one tree 132 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:01.039 and the other on the ground, so the webbing would 133 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:04.000 be through there, and these indigenous cultures would see things 134 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:08.879 like large cats in there, birds, antelope and such. And 135 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:13.000 there have been reports of even indigenous cultures being caught themselves. 136 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.039 And what these spiders would do is then come out 137 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.840 and they would inject their venom inside of the victim. 138 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.159 And they were reported to be geez around the size 139 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:28.279 of a coconut crab, maybe a little bit bigger. And 140 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.399 when they were younger though, they are reported to be 141 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.159 pretty bright in color. I believe it's purple. And they 142 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:38.919 come out of these little eggs that are yellow that 143 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:42.840 look like almost grains are rice. And there has been 144 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:46.279 a ton of Westerners that have gone down there and 145 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:49.600 had issues. One gentleman was a I want to say, 146 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.600 a wanna be explorer slash cryptu zoologist. He was some 147 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:55.159 rich stude from Europe. So him and his wife, you know, 148 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:57.519 I thought they could just go down here and whatever, 149 00:10:57.679 --> 00:10:59.919 blow some money, because like I said, they thought they 150 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:03.720 or actually cryptu zoologists, which they weren't. But either way, 151 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:07.000 as they were driving down one of these remote trails 152 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:10.120 in the jungle, this isn't like the twenties or forties, 153 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:14.200 I believe they ended up seeing what he and her 154 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:17.240 said looked to be a large monkey kind of crawling 155 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:19.360 across the road. But then they realized it was not 156 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:23.279 a monkey because it reared up and they saw enormous 157 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:27.000 fangs as it was rearing up towards their vehicle, showing 158 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:30.639 no fear whatsoever. And as he turned the lights on 159 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.240 and beaped a little bit and started backing up, the 160 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.440 spider began coming towards them until like deciding to run 161 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:41.200 back off into the jungle. And when Monster Quests went 162 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:45.159 down there and was speaking to all these indigenous cultures, dude, 163 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:49.600 they make all their huts legitimately spider proof for some 164 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:54.000 sort of larger rackned Okay, and that is very interesting 165 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:56.879 because obviously something they're dealing with is that real to them, 166 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:03.559 and it is believed to steal pets, dotes, smaller livestock, children, 167 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:07.159 and even men and women. So that's just a little 168 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:08.799 bit before we dive in more. Man. 169 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:10.639 Wow, I'm impressed. 170 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:10.799 Now. 171 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:13.480 I didn't know the scientific name there that you called 172 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.360 the virus or whatever designation that was, but I have 173 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:20.000 heard of it, and in fact, now I have a 174 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:24.120 somewhat of a rachnophobia. I don't really care for spiders. 175 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:26.240 I can coexist with them as long as they stay 176 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:30.080 up in the corner and catch gnats and flies and 177 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:32.360 things like that. If they get on me, or if 178 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:35.840 I find them in my bed, then it's I'll show 179 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:37.840 you the door. At best, at words to get a 180 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:41.879 funeral at sea, getting flushed down the toilet. But I 181 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.639 just I don't know, don't don't like creepy crawley. So 182 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:49.440 growing up, a friend of mine had a pet spider 183 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.440 I call tarantula. He named it Jerry, after Jerry Garcia, 184 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:57.879 the Grateful Dead, And he finally conned me into holding 185 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:00.559 it one time, and I had an in my hand 186 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:04.000 and the thing it starts slowly crawling out my arm, 187 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:06.639 and I'm like, Johnny, you need to get this thing 188 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:09.159 off me right now, because if it gets any closer 189 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.919 to my face or my hair, I'm gonna sling it 190 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:14.000 across the room. I don't care what you're prayed for. 191 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:14.279 It. 192 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:18.360 Don't mean to be hating on spiders. But when I 193 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:21.480 lived up in the Upper East Tennessee, I lived in 194 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:24.360 the northern tip up there, a little place called Mountain City. 195 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.240 You go one way, you're in Boone, North Carolina, not 196 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.799 far from the Brown Mountain Lights and all that. The 197 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:35.840 other direction, you could be in Bristol, which is Tennessee 198 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:39.320 and Virginia there in the dry cities. Or you go 199 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.320 down to Johnson City and was a little bit further. 200 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:45.679 The other way, you're in Abingdon, Virginia, home with a 201 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:50.399 very haunted Martha Washington End and also haunted Barterer Theater, 202 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:53.039 which is across the street. Anyway, I lived up there 203 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:56.159 in Mountain City for about a year and it's a 204 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.159 strange place. Anyway, have you ever heard of the Steve 205 00:13:58.200 --> 00:13:59.759 Earl song Copperhead Road? 206 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:02.480 I do not believe I have. 207 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:05.759 My friend, well, let's check that out sometime. And it's 208 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:09.000 kind of an update on the old thunder Road, like 209 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:12.039 the Revenuers and the moonshiners and stuff. But then at 210 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:15.440 the end the updates at the pot growers. Anyway, Copperhead 211 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:18.360 Road is a real road in Johnson County up there, 212 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:21.960 and that's where the song was, what the song was 213 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:25.159 written about. They actually had to change the name of 214 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:28.080 the road because people kept stealing the sign, the Copperhead 215 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:33.240 Road sign. But I digress. But anyway, there's a place 216 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.320 up there called Roan Mountain. I've been up there. There 217 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:37.480 was a BnB that I used to like to go 218 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:40.799 up to there called the Roan Mountain Inn. And there's 219 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:43.759 all kinds of legends and folklore up there in that area. 220 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:48.120 There's the Jingling Hole, which is place during the Civil 221 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:52.200 War where the apparently both sides, the North and the South, 222 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:55.519 would if they captured somebody to interrogate them, they would 223 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.440 make them hold on to a steel pole that had 224 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:02.480 been h laid across this open pit. It was deep. 225 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:05.519 Some people claim it doesn't have a bottom, orf it 226 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:11.399 does its way down there, and people that were hanging 227 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:13.879 from this would it would kick and on their spurs. 228 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.360 A lot of these were on horseback. You'd hear their 229 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:18.559 spurs jingling, and that's what they called it, the jingling. 230 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:21.080 Oh well, some of them were unfortunate. They fell down 231 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:25.480 in there, and that was the last trip on that excursion, 232 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:28.799 and to this day's supposal, you can still hear stuff 233 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:32.559 coming out of there. There's a place called Trade where 234 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:36.320 they have trade days where the natives used to trade 235 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:42.080 with the white folks. What else is up there. Fiddler's Rock, 236 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:45.000 which is up on Rohan Mountain, a little place there 237 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:46.759 there was a guy that would come out and play 238 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:51.200 the fiddle and charm rattlesnakes that live on the mountain. Well, 239 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:53.720 one day they found him deceased up there. He was 240 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:56.919 covered in snake bites. Apparently the snakes got tired of 241 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:59.679 being charmed. But to this day they say, on a 242 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:03.000 certain times you can still hear him. Upon Roan Mountain 243 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:05.720 you can hear a fiddle play, and it's supposedly his spirit. 244 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:09.159 Now said all this to tell you that the guy 245 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:11.240 that I knew that was from that area and lived 246 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:14.759 up there, told me. He said, Steve, there's a place 247 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:17.559 up on Rome Mountain I can take you to. He said, 248 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:19.399 it's kind of hard to get to. It says a 249 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:23.559 sort of a hidden cave. And he said, I kid you, 250 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:28.080 not inside this cave. There's a spider that lives there 251 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:31.279 that's as big as a house cat. He said, no, 252 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:33.240 I don't mean the whole spider. He said, I mean 253 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:35.799 the body of the spider. Well, I can't remember what 254 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:38.559 it's called. It's as big as a cat. Then you've 255 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:41.840 got all the legs and stuff. He said. There's birds 256 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:45.120 and squirrels and small game there that are entombed that 257 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:47.759 are wrapped up, you know, where the spider's been feeding 258 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:51.799 on him and stuff. And for a brief second, I thought, 259 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:53.440 you know, I would like to see that, and then 260 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:56.039 I thought, nope, nope, nope, because he said when you 261 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.000 go in, there's all these webs and stuff and you 262 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:00.200 got to kind of fight your way in with a 263 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.440 walking cane or start walking stick. And I thought, no, 264 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.279 that's the lastly, because you know spider, that big venom. 265 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:10.880 You know, it wouldn't take much to I'd be a 266 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:14.519 cocooned in there. So there you go. I knew what 267 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:16.720 you're talking about, I bet, and you probably never heard 268 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.880 that legend from Upper East Tennessee. But I know a 269 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:21.440 guy that can take you to the cave. 270 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:27.279 Wow. That's definitely some pretty gnarly stuff right there, for sure. 271 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:29.799 And as you're talking about that, all I can think 272 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:32.200 about is, yeah, because I'm a nerd, is in the 273 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:35.160 lower of the rings. And also, Harry Potter, those two 274 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:39.680 garganguous spiders that are up in there, they are for 275 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:44.039 sure something out of nightmare fuel. But I did not 276 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.000 know you had some iraq in aphobia. So on a 277 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:48.799 funny note, just a little bit. 278 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:51.160 You know, just as I thought of, especially one that 279 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:52.240 big holy cara. 280 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:55.039 So I don't know if you'll find this funny then, 281 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:57.400 but I do find this super cool. Is a lot 282 00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:01.960 of people don't realize that jumping spiders, for example, it's 283 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:05.640 not been very well documented to see if tarantulors and 284 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:09.000 other species, But keep in mind, tarantulers are considered old 285 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:11.759 age spiders, if you know what that means, and then 286 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:14.720 new age spiders are considered like the jumping spider, the 287 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:19.079 wolf spider, et cetera, and jumping spiders are actually known 288 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:22.839 and well documented to have bonds with their owners. They 289 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:26.519 recognize you and stuff. And I've always found jumping spiders 290 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:29.200 to be super cool with all their eyes and their 291 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:32.960 little hands and such. So that's just some pretty interesting 292 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:36.839 stuff right there. And then, as you mentioned again, back 293 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:39.039 to those caves that we don't know too much about, 294 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:43.960 so that really honestly doesn't surprise me that much because 295 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:47.799 we don't know anything really about the caves. And I 296 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:50.480 got some more messed up stuff for you about this. 297 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:56.119 If you actually think of how big this spider is 298 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:01.599 reported to be, well before I die into the reasonings 299 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:06.440 really why that it might be pretty hard for a 300 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:09.640 spider to grow this big, but also something else it 301 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:12.720 could be, but doesn't make sense that it would be. 302 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:15.960 I got an interesting account again from that area where 303 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:20.839 at this time this gentleman actually was a real person 304 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:25.240 that had expertise on exploring and such, and he went 305 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:29.119 out in the jungle with a group of missionaries and stuff, 306 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:31.119 just to make sure that, you know, he wasn't going 307 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:34.000 to be ambushed by any sort of nonsense that could 308 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:37.079 be occurring. And ooh, guess what they ran into supposed 309 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:40.319 to like the jaba ffy, And apparently a few of 310 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:43.920 the soldiers or mercenaries got caught up in the web 311 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:48.519 and immediately well, just like we had described before as 312 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:51.960 to what had happened to others, well that same stuff 313 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:56.480 happened to these guys, and apparently they were disposed of quickly, 314 00:19:56.519 --> 00:19:58.960 even though they tried to struggle, and there was only 315 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:01.680 a few left, and they started shooting at them, and 316 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:04.240 they dropped I guess, I believe one or two of them, 317 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:06.920 but then the spiders lunched at them, pulled away his 318 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:11.000 two remaining missionaries or companions whatever you'd like to use 319 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:16.480 for terminology, And then afterwards he was bit but then somehow, 320 00:20:16.759 --> 00:20:20.079 which doesn't seem very far fetched. I mean, adrenaline does, 321 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:23.039 you know, very interesting things. And I've spoken about that before, 322 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:26.079 how people have had wounds that were mortal and as 323 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:28.240 soon as there are blood pressure and adrenaline drop that 324 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:30.079 just bled out. But all of a sudden they're on 325 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.599 the warfield, sitting here picking up people, lighting people up, 326 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:36.119 and it's like, dude, what is this guy the real terminator? 327 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:38.240 You know? But then, like I said, your blood pressure 328 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.880 drops and you sprang out everywhere. So this dude makes 329 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:45.200 it back to the camp. Well, immediately the indigenous people, 330 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.160 by the swelling on him and the way he looks 331 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:51.720 and the poison, they noticed the Jabba fofi and he's 332 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:55.359 struggling to try to explain to them what's happened to him, 333 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:57.400 But his tongue swelled up and he ended up like 334 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:01.640 you know, being unalived. You have that account too, And 335 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:05.920 then you have another account in Vietnam of American soldiers 336 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:09.680 that came across a group of things that sound to 337 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:13.119 be very similar to the jibba ofi or a large spider, 338 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:16.759 and they came at them and no one was unlive, 339 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:19.839 but the spiders were. They lit them all up. So 340 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:23.559 now let's, you know, real quick go into the science aspect, 341 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:29.240 I mean, realistically with how spiders are building. Such look 342 00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:33.000 at a jumping spider, look at its dexterous aspects and 343 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:35.480 how quickly it moves, but also look how small it is. 344 00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:38.200 Now look at a tarantula. Yeah, they can you know, 345 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:41.160 boogie a little bit if they need to, but they're 346 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:44.720 not the most fast and explosive spiders. Science has been 347 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.440 running before, though, but it really depends on the oxygen level, 348 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:52.119 and apparently with the oxygen that's on modern day Earth, 349 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:55.920 it's not considered enough to allow these iraqnas to grow 350 00:21:55.920 --> 00:22:00.480 to their supersizes that they used to in prehistoric times. Again, though, 351 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:04.160 like I said, science can be wrong, so it's not 352 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:08.279 really that far fetched to think a guiant spider could exist. 353 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:11.519 But also, like I said, there is science supporting how 354 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:16.200 that's not possible. And before I dive into potentially some 355 00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:19.039 other stuff that people said they were and something that 356 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:21.839 relates to again somebody missing, I would like to hear 357 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:22.839 your opinions on that. 358 00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:26.960 I don't know because I've watched documentaries about the Amazon 359 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:29.720 and some of the stuff they find down there. I 360 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:31.640 saw this one thing where they went out in the 361 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:35.279 rainforest and they found this huge, huge tree canopy, you know, 362 00:22:35.319 --> 00:22:37.960 they can't even see the sky, and they set up 363 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:39.880 some smoke bombs and stuff and there they got out 364 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:43.759 of the area, and then all these insects and things 365 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:45.559 started following out of the tree. I think they've done 366 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:47.519 this in some movie or something that I saw too, 367 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:50.559 but I did see it in a documentary and they 368 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:52.880 were in there and they were finding all these weird things, 369 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:58.319 hundreds of species just I think every year maybe thousands 370 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:01.839 that they find on there. So I don't think it's 371 00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:05.400 beyond the realm of possibility that there's just a whole 372 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:10.039 myriad of insects out there, including spiders that we have 373 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:14.880 no knowledge of yet, and especially big one like that. Then, 374 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:17.319 you know, what you were talking about there kind of 375 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:21.720 reminded me of some of the cases I've covered, the 376 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:26.440 missing people cases. And if you overlay a map of 377 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:30.880 like these clusters of missing people, it also lines up 378 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:34.839 with the cave systems. So that's another thing to add 379 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.559 to the launder list of stuff that could be taking people, 380 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:42.000 is these giant spiders in caves, and who knows, maybe 381 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:47.559 they've they've developed you know, something like a bird of 382 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:50.960 canary or a miner bird or something where they can talk. 383 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:55.960 Because people they've talked about hearing voices coming from a cave, 384 00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:01.519 or the sound of a baby crying, or even people 385 00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:05.920 calling their name, people that were that's kind of getting 386 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:08.680 into the supernatural level because usually somebody that was deceased 387 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:10.920 or somebody that was at least one thousand miles away. 388 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:14.480 And I covered one case where the guy heard his 389 00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:16.960 own voice calling to him from a cable, like, hey, 390 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:19.960 come on in here. So maybe it's some kind of 391 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:24.880 highly developed spider, maybe an alien hybrid spider that has 392 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:28.119 these wild talents. I mean, if you did go into 393 00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:30.200 the cable looking for a voice, maybe you wouldn't see 394 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:34.559 the spider hiding behind a rock or something. The next 395 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:37.759 thing you know, you're bit and then being spun into 396 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:42.079 a cocoon. True nightmare fuel. 397 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:46.920 Indeed, Yeah, you want to talk about some nightmare of fuel. 398 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:52.519 There's actually a movie called Sting on Hulu that actually 399 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:57.160 involves that, where a long story short is this little girl, 400 00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:00.000 I mean, she's a teenager or whatever, gets this spy 401 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:01.400 that falls. 402 00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:05.680 Down in a little meteorite into her apartment complex, and 403 00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:08.000 I'm not going to spoil it for everybody. But the 404 00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:11.400 spider is a mimic, so yeah, whistles to her when 405 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:15.319 it's hungry and such, and learns to sound like a 406 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.559 cat in distress to make some lady climb down and 407 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:19.759 try to think it's her cat. 408 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:20.119 Yeah. 409 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:25.079 So pretty gnarly stuff right there, man, And I wanted 410 00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:27.640 to touch base on some of the stuff they do 411 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:32.119 think potentially that this could be some scientists have thought 412 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:36.279 because in the areas there are coconut crabs, and dude 413 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:39.160 to anybody out there that has not seen a coconut crab, 414 00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:47.799 all right, and they are straight up gnarly, savage zombie machines, 415 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:50.680 meaning they come out they're not very fast. Okay, So 416 00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.200 that here's the big problem. These people claim these are 417 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:56.400 spiders and they're fast. Coconut crabs not really that fast. 418 00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:58.960 But the problem is they just keep coming at you 419 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:01.799 and very large numbers, and there's not much you can 420 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:09.319 do to get rid of them. I mean they climb trees. Yes, 421 00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.799 you're gonna be, like you said, destroyed. So there actually 422 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:17.519 is a very interesting aspect of what happened with Amelia 423 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.599 Earhart and some of the areas where you know, they 424 00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:23.880 believe that she went down and if she did escape 425 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:27.039 the crash, where she would have went. And recently they 426 00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:31.119 found some stuff suggesting she was on this island that 427 00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:35.119 they believe she was consumed by coconut crabs, and that 428 00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:38.720 would explain why you've never found anything else of her. 429 00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:43.599 But again, the coconut crabs are slow so because they 430 00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:46.119 have that big shell. And that's what I was trying 431 00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:52.039 to explain to people about. Well, if a giant spider, 432 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:55.559 it's got an ectoskeleton, and people are, wait, what's that, Well, 433 00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:58.079 it's like their shield for their body. But the problem 434 00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:01.759 is that's why spider. I believe every species does it. 435 00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:05.319 I may be incorrect, but they shed their skin as 436 00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:11.440 they grow. And the reason they're doing that is, well 437 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:17.680 they need to expand their body, okay, and really make 438 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:21.799 sure that they're growing properly. But they get to a 439 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:26.119 point where they don't grow really any bigger. And I 440 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.039 mean they could, I guess, but again, there's that oxigen. 441 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:31.279 It's not like it's a snake that if you just 442 00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:35.079 keep feeding it food, you know, consistently, over and over again, 443 00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:38.240 well that thing's going to keep growing. And well, yeah, 444 00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.440 sure you might get it to grow to a very 445 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:43.960 abnormal length. But that's just because you're giving it calories 446 00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:46.519 and such. But when it comes to an iraknid, it's 447 00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:48.920 a lot different because it's got to carry that weight 448 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.599 on its body. So it's just some interesting stuff, man. 449 00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:58.839 Yeah, indeed, and strange. As you mentioned that. I was 450 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:03.759 just raising some stuff today about Amelia Earhart synchronicity there, 451 00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.440 and they were talking about how they think they may 452 00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:09.319 have found the plane, but it's mostly turned a coral 453 00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:12.240 now and they if they tried to move it out 454 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:16.119 of there, it would just totally obliterate it. But that's 455 00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:19.160 a frightened thought that she, you know, all that way, 456 00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:23.119 and then got ditched on that island, survived and was 457 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:27.079 then devoured by coconut crabs. And those things are frightening. 458 00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:30.680 I googled them here while we were talking, and that'd 459 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:32.319 be a big note for me. I don't have anything 460 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.759 to do with them, That's what I was saying. 461 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:38.880 That are little tanks, man. I mean, obviously you and 462 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:43.920 I could properly dispose of them, but realistically, you and 463 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:47.160 I with baseball bats, dude, if five, six or seven 464 00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:48.880 of those were coming at us, that'd be a problem. 465 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:54.240 Man, Yeah, you know, you just you'd be overrun by them, 466 00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:58.119 and just there's the terror aspect and the fighter flight thing. 467 00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:03.160 I'd try to I'd try flight first, and then I 468 00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.200 can't imagine. There's a video out there. I think it's 469 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:10.599 on on TikTok or Facebook shorts or YouTube shorts one 470 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:13.400 of those. It's a crab somewhere. I think it's in Australia. 471 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.079 It's pretty good sized crab. I'm not sure what kind 472 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.720 of crab it is. It's upon land and it's got 473 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:21.720 a steak knife and the guys after it, and it 474 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:24.480 looks like the crab is brandishing the knife at him, like, 475 00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:28.680 you know, get back, I'll cut you. So who's to say. 476 00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:32.480 I mean, they might be more sentient than we've been 477 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:34.720 led to believe. This kind of do their own thing. 478 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:38.400 But yeah, a bunch of anything. I think it could 479 00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.519 do yim, especially something like that. It'd be like trying 480 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.960 to fight thousands of lobsters or something. They could just 481 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:47.720 tear you apart. 482 00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:49.799 That's what I'm saying. And that's just very interesting, and 483 00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:51.880 it's one of those things. No matter what I talk 484 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.599 about in general, I always like things with backs and 485 00:29:55.960 --> 00:30:01.160 evidence and just think supporting that. So yes, theory hypothesis 486 00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:05.799 is around the fact that, oh well, no one's definitively proven. 487 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.680 You know, these large spiders, but then you have these 488 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.519 cultures going way out of their way to make sure 489 00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.759 the houses are spiderproof, people missing in the jungles and such, 490 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:17.000 which again same thing with here. You know, there's numerous 491 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:20.720 reasons why that's occurring, But there are spiders in history 492 00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:25.079 that were massive. I mean, I'm a huge advocate. Almost 493 00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:28.160 everybody you see on the Midnight Society suggestion on my 494 00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:31.640 list are people such as yourself that I've got a 495 00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:34.160 chance to sit down with. But there are some brilliant 496 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.839 minds on there that I would love to be able 497 00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:40.200 to sit down with someday and really speak to, like 498 00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:45.519 Forrest Gallanti, the Wild Times podcast, Extinct Zoo highly compelling 499 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:49.319 North O two. Either way, though, these people are brilliant 500 00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.680 and they've taught me so much. But I believe it's 501 00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:56.519 Extinct Zoo that does an episode about the Agiina rachnids 502 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:01.319 that existed pre dinosaur times and holy Christs, ties what 503 00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.039 the heck? But again, though the atmosphere was so much 504 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.319 different that allowed that. Though I mean, there weren't predators 505 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.400 and such. It's just like with that giant pterodactyl. Basically 506 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.039 more or less that in the area it evolved, Well, 507 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.480 the dinosaurs became smaller because they didn't have as much food, 508 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.079 but these birds had no competition now or these pterosaurs 509 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.559 and this one became gargantuous. So it just boils down 510 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.640 to the niche of something is filled in nature. And 511 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.559 I mean, the proof is there that gino athletes and 512 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.160 things did exist, whether or not they still can as 513 00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:36.960 another story or another opinion. 514 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.480 Yeah, I read something the other day talking about how 515 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:45.160 chickens are related to the dinosaurs. And supposedly somewhere I 516 00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.799 think it's in the Middle East or maybe I don't 517 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:52.359 remember exactly, might have been Russia, but they found a 518 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.920 dinosaur skeleton and a bunch of fossilized feathers there with it, 519 00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.240 and they were kind of congesturing that not all the 520 00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:02.640 dinosaurs had the reptilian skin and the scales. Some of 521 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:05.720 them have feathers. So can you imagine something on the 522 00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.880 size of a t rex but it's a chicken, and 523 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:11.720 you know they got that the three toes and the 524 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.319 claw in the back, you know, so I can see 525 00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:18.640 the correlation between chickens and sometimes but that's a frightening 526 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:23.079 thought of me a giant, prehistoric chicken that wants to 527 00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:26.319 tear you apart. And chickens are brutal. I grew up 528 00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.559 My parents had chickens, and they don't kill and eat 529 00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:31.880 anything if they got I saw one swallow a whole 530 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:36.359 frog once, and they'll kill a snake or anything like that. 531 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:40.119 So you can imagine, you know, one as tall as 532 00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:42.519 your house, what kind of damage you could do. There's 533 00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.559 all kinds of stuff out there, and they jogged my 534 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.119 memory when we were talking about that. Maybe spiders were 535 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.000 mimics and stuff. There was a guy that I went 536 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.920 to high school. I won't won't give his name here 537 00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.640 because he's still around. In fact, he's a minister of 538 00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:02.200 a church and things either north or out Dakota now. 539 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:06.160 But I went to high school together and briefly to college. 540 00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:09.039 He was at the University of Tennessee for a while. Well. 541 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.079 He told me a story one time about he was 542 00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:15.799 in the basement of a church. He was kind of 543 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.119 a religious zealot, that's the kindest way to say it, 544 00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:24.279 and he volunteered at this church to clean it like 545 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:28.799 Saturday night before Sunday morning service and Thursday after the 546 00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:30.759 Wednesday night services and sf like that. Well, he was 547 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:35.160 down in the basement one time and in the storage 548 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.000 room I think it was where the furnace. There's something 549 00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:42.240 was in there. There's a dark room. But he said 550 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.839 that he encountered a big black spider in there. He 551 00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:48.119 said it looked like the size of a tarantula, but 552 00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:51.160 it was shiny black. It wasn't for he wasn't Harry, 553 00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:56.240 and he said the thing was demonic, and then it 554 00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:58.599 started talking to him. Now, this guy, like I said, 555 00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.799 he was a kook, and I heard some wild stories 556 00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:03.640 out of him. But he claimed that he took a 557 00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:07.119 shovel or things like a snowshovel or something, and he 558 00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:10.559 killed this thing and he said it crunched and this 559 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:16.360 goo just shot everywhere. But again from his religious and 560 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:20.440 theosophical aspect, it was it had to be demonic because 561 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:25.840 it was this giant, black, weird, shiny spider that lived 562 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:29.719 in the basement of a church that he dispatched to 563 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:33.079 the next life. But I just I remember that. And 564 00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:34.880 he claimed that the thing was talking to him. He 565 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:38.320 said it wasn't very loud, but it was talking to him. 566 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:41.960 Now I have heard you know that there's certain bugs 567 00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:45.840 and things that can can make a noise that mimics talking, 568 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:48.840 you know, crickets chirp and and things squeak and then 569 00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:52.679 make these weird things. And you got Katie Did's and 570 00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:57.000 stuff like that. But I don't know about anything that 571 00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:59.960 if it has a voice, there's there's something neither supernatural 572 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:02.719 or something we're not aware of or who knows. Maybe 573 00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:05.519 my friend was right and it was demonic. What better 574 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.840 place for a demon spider to hide than in a dark, 575 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:10.039 burnast room of a church. 576 00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:14.760 Yeah, some straight up gnarly stuff for sure. And before 577 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:19.519 I talked about right right, and before I blow your 578 00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.000 mind a little bit more with the whole dinosaur thing. 579 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:24.679 I mean, the bottom of mine is spiders and a 580 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:28.599 rachnids don't have voice boxes. That's not to say that, 581 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.320 you know, by stroking a spiderweb or something, they couldn't 582 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.639 make some sort of hum you know that might sound 583 00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.719 like a sound that maybe some sort of insect they 584 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.239 prey on, you know, might draw them in. That's not 585 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.960 very far fetched a thing. But yeah, I don't have 586 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:44.800 a local barrage. 587 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:48.360 In school, we made a thing. You know, it would 588 00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:50.639 kind of I guess mimic a voice box. But we 589 00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:54.159 took cardboards, either a cigar box or shoe box and 590 00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:56.880 put a string through a hole, you know, tiedy knot, 591 00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:00.159 pulled it out, and then put the pine rosin on 592 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.880 that string like violin bow rosin, and you could run 593 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.719 your fingers pull that taut and then run your fingers 594 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.039 up and down it and it was almost like bowling 595 00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:10.920 a violin, but you get some of the most unearthly 596 00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:14.920 squeals and groans and creeks and stuff out of it, 597 00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:17.239 and it's just again, it's just some strings rosin. So 598 00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:20.039 you know, who knows if that web was thick enough 599 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.480 and it was attached to something that would sound you know, 600 00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:26.440 maybe a hollow or something like that, or a log 601 00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:29.880 or even a tree. I mean the guitar, rudimentary guitar 602 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.880 and the spider just moving along that or maybe kind 603 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:38.079 of plucking at it, it could make some strange noises. 604 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:40.159 You're blowing my mind here. 605 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:43.400 Buddy, Yeah, No, like you were just saying, like the 606 00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.119 whole thing picture of a wine glass, they say, if it 607 00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:48.840 has more crystal in it, supposedly you get it a 608 00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:50.719 little bit wet on the top and it's like woo 609 00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.320 woo woo, makes a crazy sound. And I'll do it. 610 00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:56.280 You sweat your finger, just rub it, yeah, lightly around 611 00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:58.960 the lip of it. And back in the day, there 612 00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.079 was a thing I think they called a glass harmonica 613 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.800 or something like that, people that by adjusting the water 614 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.039 level and the glasses, they could tune it to certain 615 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.760 notes and then they would play that like kind of 616 00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:13.239 like playing a piano, but by rubbing the Yes, I've 617 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.199 seen an old old video there. 618 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.280 It's that the ozakkala when we're speaking about that same thing, 619 00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:22.440 how they're able to replicate a very creepy howl by 620 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:27.320 using rope and barrels and such. So it's definitely capable impossible. 621 00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.440 But man, you want to talk about before how you 622 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:35.519 had mentioned that, well, some dinosaurs had feathers. They're pretty 623 00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:38.800 optimistic the majority of them did, and they're very optimistic 624 00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:42.039 that the majority of dinosaurs actually were warm blooded and 625 00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.960 that they weren't typical quote unquote lizards, and they have 626 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:48.880 been finding a ton of evidence to support this, which 627 00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:54.679 now means, yeah, you can't really fully judge somethings intellect 628 00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.639 because people can be like Oh, well, hey, crocodiles or reptiles, 629 00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.559 brains the size of a walnut whatever. Okay, And then 630 00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:03.159 someone would be like, well, look at a bab boon. 631 00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:06.639 Those are super smart. Yes, but I recently watched a 632 00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:10.360 baboon that apparently thought he was king of this area 633 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.719 and got snapped up and consumed by the crocodile. So 634 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.239 wait a second, this crocodile knows and they warn people 635 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:18.920 do not go down into the water at the same 636 00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:21.239 points in time, do not camp in the same points 637 00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:24.480 in time, because they learn your patterns. I mean, I 638 00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:26.760 don't care what any human out there wants to say 639 00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:31.079 about that topic. That's pretty intellectual enough to be able 640 00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:34.079 to survive as long as they have. And dude, they're 641 00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:36.239 out smarting people. Wait a second, I thought people were 642 00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.519 so smart, But how many times do they get consumed 643 00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.599 by crocodiles after being told not to do that? 644 00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:48.119 Yeah? Oh, Darwin and action there. Never mind. I saw 645 00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:50.199 something that the other day about a bunch of monkeys 646 00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.199 that escaped from a research facility around Raising Hill in 647 00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:55.960 the woods, and they claimed that there were monkeys that 648 00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:59.199 haven't been experimented on yet. But of course they're going 649 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.519 to say no, tell them what's out there right around. 650 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:06.320 But we can also reminded me, have you ever heard 651 00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.000 of the hundredth monkey theory? 652 00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:11.320 No, I have not, and I would love for you 653 00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:13.800 to tell me that. But one quick thing I wanted 654 00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.239 to still blow your mind about so recently about the 655 00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:19.119 feather thing, is they found what they believe is a 656 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:21.400 version of the t rex, not just a relative, but 657 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:25.119 a version. So most animals, right you head down, No 658 00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:27.880 warmer clients, No, not this t rex. It went up 659 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.360 to the North Pole and they found feathers on it, 660 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:34.760 and they believed that it was white like a polar bear. 661 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.880 And wait a second, if you're cold blooded, you sure 662 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.119 as heck can't be living in the snow. You'd be frozen. 663 00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.320 And wait a second, it's got feathers, and wow. It 664 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:47.360 chose to go up north because wait a second, it 665 00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:49.440 had to deal with harsher climates. But it had no 666 00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.360 competition for predators, whereas it went down south. It has 667 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:56.519 other t rexes, all kinds of other carnivorous dinosaurs, but 668 00:39:56.599 --> 00:40:00.159 here in the North Pole they only had herbivores. This 669 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.719 was the apex predator in the area. And there you go, 670 00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.400 my friend, that's some brilliant stuff I had just found 671 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:06.840 out too. 672 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.519 Yeah, that's in Indeed, I love the research that you're 673 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:14.199 doing here. This is what I got about the hundredth monkey. 674 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:18.000 The hundredth monkey theory is an idea that suggests when 675 00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:21.239 a certain number of individuals in a population learn a 676 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:25.320 new behavior or idea, it will suddenly and spontaneously spread 677 00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:27.880 to the rest of the population, even those here are 678 00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:31.760 geographically isolated. Now, the story behind this theory s them 679 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:36.960 some observations of Japanese macaques. In the nineteen fifties, researchers 680 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.159 noticed that some monkeys on the island of Koshima learned 681 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.280 to watch sweet potatoes before eating them. As more monkeys 682 00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:46.480 learned this behavior, it seemed to reach a critical mass, 683 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.280 after which the behavior suddenly spread to other monkey colonies 684 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:54.000 on nearby islands, even though there was no direct contact 685 00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.280 between them. So the phenomenon has been interpreted by some 686 00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:01.440 as an evidence kind of a collective cautiousness or a 687 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:05.960 morphogenetic field that allows for the instantaneous transmission of information 688 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:10.440 between individuals without any physical means of communication. Now again, 689 00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.159 it's just a theory. It's been criticized by the scientific 690 00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:17.960 community but again, as I think it kind of makes sense, 691 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:19.960 you know that how did they learn it? If they're 692 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:23.559 geographically isolated, I mean they can talk, but if they're 693 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.800 on different islands, how did they tell I mean, they 694 00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:28.360 can talk to each other, you know, they have their 695 00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:32.360 own little language there. But that's in a nutshell, that's 696 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:33.239 the hundredth monkey. 697 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:36.400 That is some great stuff. And to be honest with you, 698 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:40.239 as a scientific mind, I would love to hear the 699 00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:44.320 reasoning from the scientist because I have heard other scientists 700 00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.239 right now that I'm going to state, and they are 701 00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.039 also on my science team, some of them. I don't 702 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.440 know where these scientists were thinking, because I mean, yeah, 703 00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:55.519 of course that happens. And I'm going to give everybody 704 00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:00.519 an example orcus. There's arguably questions as whether they're the 705 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:03.480 most intelligent dominant pret are in the ocean. Octopuses are 706 00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:05.400 super smart too, So we're not going to dive into that. 707 00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:07.599 We're just going to dive into the fact. Orcas are 708 00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.920 smart and they are dope wolves of the sea. There's 709 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:14.159 a reason for that. Okay, Well, only certain parts in 710 00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:20.119 the world do orcas consume the livers of great white 711 00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:23.719 sharks and six skilled sharks and others, not in every area. 712 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:27.519 It started off in South Africa with they don't know 713 00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.000 where the heck these orcas came from. They don't know 714 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.000 if they were in captivity and got too big or what. 715 00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.960 But they had their fins bent over. And the only 716 00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:37.679 way that ever occurs is if you were put in 717 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:43.039 under extreme stressful situations, malnourished and also in captivity. Born 718 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.639 in the wild. It's never been documented that you would 719 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.280 have hump bent over dorsal fins and port side and 720 00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:52.519 the other side. I don't know my boat terms is 721 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.760 what they dubbed these brothers, they believed, and they watched 722 00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.719 them sit there and start doing this, the only two 723 00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:02.119 orcas to ever be seen doing this. Well, they started 724 00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:05.400 linking up with another pod, and then all of a sudden, 725 00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.400 this pod started doing this. And then this pod moved 726 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:11.320 a very far distant way because they traveled a ton 727 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.920 and started doing this behavior in a new area that 728 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:18.599 other orcas then saw them and start participating in. And 729 00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:20.320 now I'm going to give one more example. You have 730 00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.840 great white sharks, same thing. Not everywhere is a documented 731 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:27.760 that white sharks leap out of the water after seals 732 00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:30.840 and such. They do in Cape Cod and they do 733 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:33.559 down in South Africa and California, but in a ton 734 00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.280 of other spots they haven't been documented doing that. And 735 00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.159 also in California recently they have seen very large great 736 00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:42.800 white sharks, not all of them, just a few that 737 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:46.360 have become more boisterous and are willing to come pretty 738 00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:49.519 close into shore where technically I guess they could get 739 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.719 stuck in this water. But they're catching these seals and 740 00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.519 sea lions off guard because they think they're safe. They're 741 00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:59.199 playing around, they're not even paying attention to boom. So again, 742 00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.039 not all them are doing that, And that just shows 743 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:04.880 two examples right there, and I mean I could bust 744 00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:05.679 out a ton of more. 745 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:10.239 So yeah, yeah, they're fascinating. And you know, i'd like, 746 00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:14.719 you know, quale songs they sing. They use that for something, 747 00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.760 I mean, geolocation among other things. But I think they 748 00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:19.719 talk to one they have a language, and you can 749 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:23.119 imagine how far the sound would carry underwater like that. 750 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:26.360 So I think if whales can do it, porpoise dolphins 751 00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:30.039 they talk to each other. Who's to say that all 752 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.119 the creatures of the sea don't have some form of that. 753 00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:36.519 But the thing that always got me was about about 754 00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.159 the dolphins. You know, they're very intelligent, they say that 755 00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:42.400 they're I've even heard their brains compared to that of 756 00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.360 a human and things, But yet they always get caught 757 00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:50.639 in the tune nets. I never understood that if if dolphins, 758 00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.760 you know, have that kind of intelligence, you think they 759 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:56.000 would learn that. Well, there's two Now I need to 760 00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:57.400 go the other way. I'm going to end up in 761 00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.559 a net. So there's some things that are nominal like that, 762 00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:04.760 but I believe there's more. There's an old I can't 763 00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:06.639 remember who was in an old movie. I think it's 764 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:10.119 called A Daily Dolphins or something like that, where during 765 00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:14.599 World War Two they were training dolphins to be spies 766 00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:22.280 and emissaries for the military. And I believe that's possible. 767 00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:24.599 Well, I know how you just said that because I 768 00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.280 was literally on Miss Barbara Hartman's podcast Opened the Door 769 00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.719 the other night speaking about how during World War two 770 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.679 the SS and the Dirty Stash that they had all 771 00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.639 kinds of advancements. I was just touch base on real 772 00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:40.079 quick that caused that, Like you said, they had on 773 00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:42.760 their battleships basically like chicken wire that would hang down 774 00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:47.519 and put out electronic pulses that would disarm our torpedoes 775 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:49.719 and such. So we started to train, you know, things 776 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.360 like dolphins and such to go plant those mines on there, 777 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.440 because they would also maneuver their way through all the 778 00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:59.199 land mines. But something else, though, is they themselves had 779 00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.519 mercury that were so light that they would float and 780 00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.239 be drawn to metal, and they have been found in 781 00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:10.159 ss submarines, crash ships, all kinds of things. And what 782 00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:13.039 they would do is release these and they would attach 783 00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.880 to our bombers that were flying above and immediately cut 784 00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:20.519 your power out and disable you and you crash. So 785 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:25.840 I mean, yeah, the technology right there caused obviously something 786 00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:28.360 to have to be changed. But yeah, I don't have 787 00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:30.320 an answer for the tune in that thing. But then 788 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:33.320 obviously they're smart enough to maneuver the way through the 789 00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:37.320 minefields and put a bomb on the boat. So I 790 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:41.159 think it might just be that you don't always get 791 00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:42.000 the cream of the crop. 792 00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:42.239 Man. 793 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.480 I think the ones that are cost probably aren't the smartest, the. 794 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.400 Slowest for the ones that have an addiction to the 795 00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:50.119 taste of tune. 796 00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.920 Yes, exactly, my friends. So I think like that theory. 797 00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:56.320 I don't know who says it. But the biggest and 798 00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:59.159 baddest of anything is not the biggest and baddest because 799 00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:02.639 they were dumb enough to get caught. Meaning if you see, 800 00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:06.239 you know, Gustav or something that's a twenty five foot crocodile, well, 801 00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:08.559 like I said, you're filming him, you've almost caught him. 802 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:10.920 He's dumb enough to be in that situation, which means 803 00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.360 there has to be something bigger, bigger fish in the sea. 804 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:15.199 It's just the way things work. You're never going to 805 00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:16.639 be the most dominant anything. 806 00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:20.119 Yeah, And I looked up that movie in nineteen seventy three. 807 00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.079 I was ten years old. It's called Day of the Dolphin. 808 00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:27.719 Marine biologist Jake, played by George C. Scott and Maggie 809 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:33.079 Tall Tricia van Derverer have for many years been doing 810 00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:35.840 dolphin research in the Florida Keys, and have even coached 811 00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.559 some dolphins to speak Primitive English. But when two of 812 00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.679 the dolphins are kidnapped, an investigation proves that the Tarrell's 813 00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:46.519 financial backers, the mysterious Franklin Foundation, have had sinister intentions 814 00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:49.400 all along. The dolphins are to be used to deliver 815 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:53.880 a detonate explosives beneath the presidency yacht. Now, how's that 816 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:58.000 for a conspiracy? And you know it's from based on 817 00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.239 things that I've read, it's not too far from what 818 00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:03.079 these animals are capable of. 819 00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:08.719 Yeah, of course, And that's brilliant stuff right there. And 820 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:13.719 people just in general, I think, always find themselves to 821 00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:17.400 be the most intellectual, and man, I run into that 822 00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.000 so much, which is why I don't enjoy communicating with 823 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.400 certain amounts of people, because you can't even have a 824 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:27.280 conversation a lot of times without somebody getting upset about something, 825 00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.840 even though you're not upset just because you have a 826 00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:35.079 different view on something. And people just are always thinking 827 00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:40.320 they're the smartest or their opinion, etc. Even though when 828 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:42.679 I make opinions about things, I purposely go out of 829 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:46.360 my way, you know, to do the research on something 830 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:51.280 before I solidify my opinions. And I just think in general, 831 00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.159 we run into that a lot where people just think 832 00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:58.559 that we're the smartest and we're not an animal, and oh, 833 00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:01.800 it's just a stupid moth, Like, who cares, I'm a person. 834 00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:05.840 Get rid of that. Moths step on it. But if 835 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.760 we really pull back and think about Earth and evolution 836 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:14.199 and how everything is, that moth serves the same purpose, 837 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:18.840 if not a more prevalent purpose than we do. I mean, realistically, 838 00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:21.760 we do have the capability to do some very beautiful 839 00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.960 things for Earth and in general, but for the most part, 840 00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:30.679 we tend to do negative things that outweigh positive things. 841 00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:34.280 And I'll give a few examples real quick. We know 842 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:38.360 nothing really about the ocean. Yet supposedly the Mariana Trench 843 00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:41.880 is the deepest part of the ocean, and well, there's 844 00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:43.960 trash all the way down there. So wait a second. 845 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.280 We know nothing about the ocean, but yet we've been 846 00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:49.719 able to somehow pollute it already good great stuff. And 847 00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:52.639 then we all know that what the ocean filters out 848 00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.719 things that we need in the atmosphere man to make 849 00:49:55.719 --> 00:49:58.440 sure that we can breathe properly. So do trees and 850 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.679 what do we consistently do? We cut down trees over 851 00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.440 and over again, and we just whether or not it's needed. 852 00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:08.880 Everything is amplified. There's no more like respect anymore. Like 853 00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:11.159 I'm a big person about if I could go back 854 00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:12.960 in the past, I would love to live like the 855 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.559 indigenous cultures. I mean, you just take what you need. 856 00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:18.440 You always make sure when you leave that there's more 857 00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:23.239 in left for nature and then you bring back that's 858 00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:25.400 just the way it is, man, and no one seems 859 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:29.800 to really have that respect anymore. So no, wonder nature 860 00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:32.519 doesn't really like people. I mean, people for some reason 861 00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:36.639 think that we own earth and that we created it 862 00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:42.760 and that everything is under our depiction. Meaning okay, people 863 00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.639 you know, will say, hey, there's too many herbivores in 864 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.079 this area, we need to make sure to go in 865 00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:52.320 and hunt them. Okay, Well, I'm not saying that's incorrect 866 00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.960 or correct. My response would be before humans ever existed, 867 00:50:56.920 --> 00:50:59.519 if we didn't encroach enough on nature and screwed things up, 868 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:03.679 editors and such, those things are handled. Okay. Yet for 869 00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:07.039 some reason now we as people think, Nope, can't be 870 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:10.039 any wolves in Montana. I'm sitting here trying to raise 871 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.000 my cattle. Nope, no wolves, even though wolves are a 872 00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:17.239 pivotal part of evolution and the survival of other things. 873 00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:19.599 But no, it doesn't matter. I'm a person, I'm better 874 00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:24.360 than that, and it's very unfortunate. So I just always 875 00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:28.000 try to distance myself from things like that, but also 876 00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.639 make sure to realize that there are good things that 877 00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:34.400 can be done and make sure that i'm trying to 878 00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:36.639 be on the side of that. And like you were saying, 879 00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.599 you know AI, for example, people all day they can 880 00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:41.679 say all the bad things. I'm going to give a 881 00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:45.360 beautiful example of AI. What can AI do that you 882 00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:49.480 and I can't do? Doesn't need to rest Man Cronch 883 00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.880 Crunch numbers everything well with the Amazon. You know how 884 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:56.000 many species they found recently with AI because AI can 885 00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:59.559 listen to everything and now tells people that the jungle 886 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:03.559 is into stress because I understand the vocalization patterns and 887 00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:05.679 such that are occurring. So if this is doing this, 888 00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.400 it's because this is a current. Wow. Is that some 889 00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:11.800 beautiful stuff? So if everyone thinks AI is so evil 890 00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:14.639 and such, it's not. It's just like everything else, what 891 00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:15.599 are we using it for? 892 00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:20.480 Yeah? And indeed, it's the intent. It's like any tool, 893 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:25.000 like a handgun, for example, it's you know what you 894 00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.679 do with If you rob somebody, that's one thing, but 895 00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:31.559 if you hunt with it for food, that's another. I'm 896 00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:34.880 not advocating for against hunting. That's each of their own. 897 00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.400 I'm not a hunter. Never I shot a squirrel when 898 00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:40.199 I was a child and did something to me, and 899 00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:44.400 I've never shot another animal. I never will. But it's 900 00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:45.440 just one of those things. 901 00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:45.679 You know. 902 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:50.039 It's again the VCR. When that came out, people was like, Oh, 903 00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:53.039 that's going to destroy this and destroy that. Ayeah. You know, 904 00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:55.719 you can watch it for entertainment, you can rent the tapes, 905 00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:58.400 or you can use it to illegally tape stuff off 906 00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:01.400 the TV. You know, the measure baseball. Without the express 907 00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:05.920 written consent, you've committed a crime. It's just the intent 908 00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:09.239 with it. But yeah, Ai, it can be a tool. 909 00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:12.320 And the more it knows, the smarter it gets. And 910 00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:14.880 I mean there's people that worry about the singularity and stuff, 911 00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:19.199 and I think we're still decades from that where yes, 912 00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:23.000 it realizes that the biggest threat to humanity is humanity 913 00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:26.519 and has to destroy is kind of like how in 914 00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:30.039 two thousand and one in Space Odyssey. But something that 915 00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.239 you're talking about there, it kind of reminded me. There's 916 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:36.519 an old Isaac Asimov a short story and I think 917 00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:38.480 the man was a genius called does a bee Care? 918 00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:43.800 And it's kind of talking about, you know, does a 919 00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:47.840 parasitic something like that, even if it's an animal or 920 00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.039 a human, does it care about the host? And I 921 00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:53.880 know the answer is it doesn't, but just apply it 922 00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:56.639 somewer here and see if this sounds like it could 923 00:53:56.679 --> 00:54:02.480 be possible. An agger om is deposited on a pre 924 00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:05.880 human earth by an alien race, and in due course 925 00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:08.280 it gives birth to a creature that takes the form 926 00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:11.800 of the human. Over the centuries, the creature lives amongst 927 00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:15.280 humans and mentally influences certain of them to advance the 928 00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:19.480 development of the civilization. In particular, it works on scientists, 929 00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:22.920 and eventually it causes the development of space travel. As 930 00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.159 the first spaceship to attempt to reach the Moon is 931 00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:28.840 being built, the creature, now known as Caine, causes the 932 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.280 creation of a small space in the ship, which he 933 00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:33.960 enters unknown to the builders. So the thing has been 934 00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:38.599 here for centuries, and it's just trying to influence the 935 00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:41.440 human mindset to build all this and to make all 936 00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:45.679 these discoveries so it can get back home. And he 937 00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:49.360 drew a great analogy between this cane creature and a 938 00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:53.199 bee that visits and thereby pollinates flowers at random, with 939 00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:56.719 no real knowledge of what it's done. But it's a 940 00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:59.320 great story. If you've never read it, check it out. 941 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:03.159 I like that concept that you know, we're basically we 942 00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:07.000 could be intergalactic sea monkeys or an alien ant farm 943 00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:09.960 or something, if you will. That we're put here to 944 00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:12.159 get to a point where we can do something for 945 00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.360 something off planet. 946 00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.360 Brilliant stuff right there, And I mean we do, like 947 00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:22.719 I said, have the capability to do quite amazing things. 948 00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:27.960 And even our ancestors, which again modern day individuals look 949 00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.679 back at, you know, a lot of our ancestors and 950 00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:34.519 assume that they weren't very intellectual. I mean, before I 951 00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:36.800 dive into something to show their intellect, I'm going to 952 00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:40.440 give an example way back in the past. Neanderthals. Okay, 953 00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:46.639 it's very widely accepted that Homo erectus and other versions 954 00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:50.960 of more modern day humans evolved to be more intellectual 955 00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:55.800 than Neanderthals. Okay, I mean sure, But here we go 956 00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:59.719 with the fact that I found caves where these Neanderthals 957 00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:03.320 put their handprints on the wall, meaning that they had 958 00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:06.000 at least enough of an understanding to be like, hey, 959 00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:09.119 we existed. They have evidence that they cared for their 960 00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:13.760 sick and week, and they also had aesthetics, meaning certain 961 00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:17.840 versions like had their weapons in different colors and such. 962 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:25.639 So there is definitely a disconnect of what we consider 963 00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:30.519 to be you know, intellectual right there, because that's really smart. 964 00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:34.639 And if you look at nature and how nature works, 965 00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:40.280 nature will always we're actually working to I believe it's 966 00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:43.000 more than a hypothesis. Now I did not come up 967 00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:44.559 with this, but I have been churning it with my 968 00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:46.840 science team and they love it too. And the scientists 969 00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:50.840 that came up with it are absolutely brilliant. So nature 970 00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.920 has a blueprint. Okay, I mean, just look through history 971 00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:56.599 and just look in modern day times more or less. 972 00:56:56.719 --> 00:57:01.800 I mean, okay, t rex Alisaurus different, pretty similar, right, 973 00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:08.519 I mean, tiger lion different, pretty similar. Okay, Megalodon, great 974 00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:11.760 white shark different, pretty similar, more or less. What I'm 975 00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:15.760 trying to get as every time either a herbivore or 976 00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:21.719 a meat eating carnivorous entity or being or creature or animal, 977 00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:26.039 whatever terminology someone would like to use, is removed from 978 00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:30.559 an ecosystem, Nature then is going to fill that void 979 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:34.000 with something similar because there are nutrients and things that 980 00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:39.119 are being unused. And recently they have found and this 981 00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:41.920 is where we're trying to push this too, they found 982 00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:45.320 a grizzly bear that had a very high level of 983 00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.199 short faced k bear DNA in it, okay, And this 984 00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.239 is where we were starting to think that nature's got 985 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:56.199 to reset in a blueprint. So think if that grizzly 986 00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:58.519 that had the higher DNA count in it of the 987 00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:01.320 short face cave bear then went out and you know, 988 00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:04.440 made it with another grizzly bear. Sure it's going to 989 00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:07.360 be lower than what it was in him, but now 990 00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.840 that higher gene pool of the short faced cave bear 991 00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:12.320 is being passed on. 992 00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:13.880 Okay. 993 00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:17.719 So it's really not that hard to think that this 994 00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:20.760 occurs in other aspects, meaning when people see things that 995 00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:24.559 are out of the ordinary or such well, I mean 996 00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:30.159 the cave hyena for example, that hyena gene pool is 997 00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:33.440 still in the hyena gene pool. So it's really not 998 00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:37.360 far fetched to think that at points in time a 999 00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:41.159 hyena can be born with higher DNA levels of an ancestor. 1000 00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:43.519 I mean, it's no different than humans, Okay, people, it's 1001 00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:46.679 a proven fact. People can look it up. Individuals with 1002 00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:50.639 larger skulls and bigger brown lines and noses and such 1003 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:54.360 and shorter usually and most always have higher levels of 1004 00:58:54.440 --> 00:59:00.719 Neanderthal in them, whereas taller, paler people usually have denisoviium. Also, 1005 00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:03.440 people that have red hair and are pale. That's more 1006 00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:06.440 of a dentist I mean, sorry, Neanderthal trait as well, 1007 00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:11.920 very interesting stuff. So if that's able to recur in US, okay, 1008 00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:14.719 then why would that not occur in nature as well? 1009 00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:17.159 Like our science team said, it's not a good thing 1010 00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:20.440 with nature, meaning not with the bear. But if something, 1011 00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:24.239 for example, was starting to develop or come up with 1012 00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:28.440 a higher DNA percentage, that most likely means it's ancestral 1013 00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:31.719 aspect is on its last line. But like I said, 1014 00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:35.079 nature has a reset button, and if it didn't, then 1015 00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:37.639 why does everything fill a niche? Like I said, I mean, 1016 00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:39.719 there's not much of a difference between the t rex 1017 00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:42.880 and then Alysaurus. They were put in different timeframes. They 1018 00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:46.320 didn't collide with each other, but they were in that niche. 1019 00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:49.440 To then consume things, you remove both of them. We 1020 00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:53.639 have the carnosaurs. I mean there's Gagantasaurus. There's a ton 1021 00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:57.119 of apex predators that fit the same line of those dinosaurs. 1022 00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:00.440 And what happened one was removed and other ones stepped in. 1023 01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:06.280 So indeed, and it's this, you know, nature takes care 1024 01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:09.480 of nature if it feels need like you said, if 1025 01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:12.679 it has to evolve something or replace something all together. 1026 01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:16.599 That's what it exactly do. Now it may take you know, 1027 01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:20.360 thousands of years or more to do it, but in 1028 01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:24.519 nature everything seems to serve a purpose. There's a few 1029 01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:27.360 things I'm not so sure about, but I'm sure you know, 1030 01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:31.599 somewhere along the line they do. But it's just fascinating 1031 01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:36.159 to think about, you know how, there's such intelligent design there. 1032 01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:39.920 And that's another thing I think that points to the stars, 1033 01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:44.400 or from a biblical perspective, the mind of God, because 1034 01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:47.480 you look at the numbers that are in everything. God 1035 01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:49.880 is in the numbers. Look at the golden ratio. 1036 01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:59.400 Yeah, that's something all throughout nature. You were not incorrect, 1037 01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:02.199 my friend. I mean, I still wanted to blow your 1038 01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:05.559 mind again. But there is actually some pretty quality evidence 1039 01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:09.880 supporting With the octopus, for example, it's unlike anything else 1040 01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:13.519 any sort of cephlopod or anything even squid that are 1041 01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:17.719 closely related to it, not as intelligent, not capable of 1042 01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:22.320 doing They've documented all get stuff back, yes, and they 1043 01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.960 basically do what the predator does, meaning they sit there 1044 01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:29.320 and orchestrate decorations in front of their caves and their 1045 01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:32.960 little dens and stuff. So wow. But now again real 1046 01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:35.800 quick with a prehistoric aspect. This isn't prehistoric, but we're 1047 01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:37.639 going to talk for a second or real quick about 1048 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:41.599 the Egyptians and then also the Greeks, because the Romans 1049 01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:43.360 pretty much just took everything that the Greeks did, so 1050 01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:45.119 we don't need to mention them, even though they did 1051 01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:47.920 elaborate a little bit. But on top of the pyramids, 1052 01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:51.639 there has always been some sort of metalish, shiny substance 1053 01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:55.760 that they always wondered what it could serve purposes for Recently, 1054 01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:58.320 there is a ton of evidence supporting it was more 1055 01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:02.400 or less like a primitive power source, meaning that when 1056 01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:05.320 the sun and stuff would hit that it would boom 1057 01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:08.599 boom boom, connect and it would cause power. Unfortunately, once 1058 01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:11.519 one would be you know, damage or something, you would 1059 01:02:11.559 --> 01:02:14.280 lose all your power. But that's pretty advanced. And then 1060 01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:18.760 the Greeks had forms of electricity and running water to 1061 01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:22.599 an extent, and that's pretty dang advanced, man, because after 1062 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:26.079 these time frames, what happened in the medieval times, you know, 1063 01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:30.840 you want to talk about primitive Neanderthal living, Yeah, something 1064 01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:34.800 happened there that caused Yes. 1065 01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:39.159 Well, before we get into that, let's take a little break. 1066 01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:42.320 I play a commercial here and then a little The 1067 01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:46.480 music be back in about five minutes. Folks, Thank you 1068 01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:48.000 for listening. More good stuff to come. 1069 01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:53.079 Attention all ground zero fans. 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Welcome back Star Fox from Star 1090 01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:49.560 Fox Radio and the North American dog Man Project. I 1091 01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:51.199 love it when I have a guest like you on 1092 01:08:51.399 --> 01:08:54.319 that just absolutely sets me on my head. You know, 1093 01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:58.399 You've made me think about things that I ordinarily wouldn't 1094 01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:01.319 have thought of, or at least not anyway soon anyway, 1095 01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:04.520 And I really appreciate that, and I'm sure the audience 1096 01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:06.880 does too. So we could pick up where we left off. 1097 01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:11.159 We're talking about ancient cultures and then what happened between 1098 01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:14.119 that and medieval times? There was a reset in there somewhere. 1099 01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:15.399 What do you think happened. 1100 01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:19.800 That's a very good question, my friend, because obviously, like 1101 01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:22.520 you said, there was some sort of reset right there, 1102 01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:25.920 and I don't think it really had something to do 1103 01:09:26.159 --> 01:09:29.720 with all of a sudden people lost the intellect that 1104 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:33.239 was there. I don't know. I think something must have occurred, 1105 01:09:33.439 --> 01:09:37.039 meaning yeah, if they were, for example, able to have 1106 01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:40.680 the power sources with like you know, the Egyptians and such, well, 1107 01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:43.840 if you know, the line of individuals that knew how 1108 01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:47.880 to do that had an unfortunate event, maybe they passed 1109 01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:49.880 away or something and they didn't pass on that knowledge, 1110 01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:51.640 and then all of a sudden, the top of one 1111 01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:55.800 pyramid gets damaged. Boom. Everyone loses their power sourcement there. 1112 01:09:55.920 --> 01:09:59.119 Then they can't grow crops properly or whatever, et cetera. 1113 01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:02.560 And saying thing with what happened with the Romans, Well, 1114 01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:08.560 they got overran by Norse tribes and people that were 1115 01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:12.119 considered by the Romans to be barbaric. But I mean 1116 01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:14.960 people had been living in that lifestyle for hundreds of 1117 01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:20.720 thousands of years. Okay, so it's interesting to depict that 1118 01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:22.920 as a barbaric because I mean, it really all depends 1119 01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:27.000 on the beholder. But either way, I think just because 1120 01:10:27.079 --> 01:10:31.159 of the maybe the harsh treatment and such, well you 1121 01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:37.600 have those rebellious cultures. But at the same time, sure 1122 01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:40.159 they might have been rebelling for what they were able 1123 01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:44.800 to convince their followers of. But haven't we gone down 1124 01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:45.640 this road before? 1125 01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:45.960 Right? 1126 01:10:46.119 --> 01:10:51.720 When you put your enemy of an enemy as an 1127 01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:54.600 enemy of mine or whatever that terminology is, I definitely 1128 01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:55.520 just messed it up. 1129 01:10:55.560 --> 01:11:00.279 But what happened enemies is it my friend's enemy is 1130 01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:01.239 how does that go? 1131 01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:02.399 Uh? 1132 01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:10.279 My my enemy's enemy is my friend, I think is 1133 01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:10.960 the way it goes. 1134 01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:13.399 Yes, when you get what I was trying to put down. 1135 01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:16.840 So what I think occurred is you had people that 1136 01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:19.680 were no different. Like I mean, look at a Till 1137 01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:22.840 of the Hunt, prime example. I mean, to his followers, 1138 01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:26.000 he was considered the man. But everybody else you know, 1139 01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:29.279 that dude was psychotic, but he ends up, you know, 1140 01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:31.880 being able to. He was some of the people that 1141 01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:34.439 took on some of those more prominent cultures. But more 1142 01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:35.960 or less, what I'm saying is you get people at 1143 01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:39.720 that right that talk everyone that's tired of being oppressed, and. 1144 01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:41.920 You get an Antila, you get a Gingha's Khan, you 1145 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:45.399 get something less. It comes along and finds people that 1146 01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:50.079 are complacent. They're happy, they've got you know, the White 1147 01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:52.680 House with white pick expence to two point three kids, 1148 01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:56.199 and then all of a sudden, here come the barbaric hordes. 1149 01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:58.439 You have the plundering horns come in and just you know, 1150 01:11:58.520 --> 01:11:59.319 blow their minds. 1151 01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:02.439 And I don't think Attila, the Hunt and all those 1152 01:12:02.439 --> 01:12:05.640 people you mentioned cared about that type of technology. They 1153 01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:08.279 just wanted to plunder. So I think a lot of 1154 01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:11.960 that just got destroyed, and most likely anyone that thought 1155 01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:15.560 or had that belief system was probably unfortunately executed. So 1156 01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:18.479 again that's just my thought on that, but I think 1157 01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:20.479 that might be a big play that then all of 1158 01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:24.600 a sudden you got these more primitive based psychos kind 1159 01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:27.239 of that got into power. And people can argue that, 1160 01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:29.319 but I mean, look at a lot of the religion. 1161 01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:33.199 I mean a lot of the royal families and such. Man, 1162 01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:35.119 there was so much incest that was going on in 1163 01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:38.159 there and all kinds of messed up stuff. So just 1164 01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:41.199 because somebody was a prince or a queen doesn't mean 1165 01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:43.479 they were of sane mind. And I think a lot 1166 01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:45.399 of that had occurred in the beginning is that you 1167 01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:50.399 just wiped out everything. Meaning there's very rarely when cultures 1168 01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:54.000 that are overtaken, their stuff gets infiltrated. 1169 01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:55.119 Back in the. 1170 01:12:55.159 --> 01:12:57.399 Greeks pretty much are correct me if I'm wrong. The 1171 01:12:57.520 --> 01:12:59.840 only culture I know were because the Romans loved the 1172 01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:02.600 Greeks so much, but they took them over, but they 1173 01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:05.399 still loved everything about them so much, where they're like, yeah, 1174 01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:07.800 we're gonna base everything off y'all, and you can even 1175 01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:11.840 have Athens, but it's not Greece anymore. It's Rome. But 1176 01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:15.239 the majority of other cultures I've seen that are overtaken. 1177 01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:17.840 No one cares about the art they did or the history. 1178 01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:19.079 All that's usually destroyed. 1179 01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:25.880 I feel like, yeah, it's like like when the mind 1180 01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:29.760 and the muscle made the intellectuals, it's that's going to 1181 01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:32.399 follow the wayside. I mean, you can't eat art or 1182 01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:36.159 anything like that, or if you're not educated to the 1183 01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:38.159 point to where you can enjoy it or appreciate it, 1184 01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:40.159 then it means absolutely nothing to you. 1185 01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:45.039 That's exactly. So that's really you just broke it down 1186 01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:47.399 into if I could state it, the best way I 1187 01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:50.520 could rate there is I think personally that's what it's occurred. 1188 01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:52.800 It's you can put something in front of somebody, but 1189 01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:54.840 they don't know how to use it or put that 1190 01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:58.960 to anything that's going to help in survival aspects. I mean, 1191 01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:01.000 what lead a horse, but if it doesn't drink, it 1192 01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:04.279 doesn't drink, man, I mean, what can you do if 1193 01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:05.680 you don't understand something? 1194 01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:05.960 You know? 1195 01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:08.840 And like you just said, unfortunately it still seems to 1196 01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:12.680 occur now, you know, the nerds versus le bron or whatever. 1197 01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:13.039 I mean. 1198 01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:15.439 Even in football, you get the former football players that 1199 01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:18.079 are like dude analytics. Those guys don't know. They're just 1200 01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:21.239 the nerds and the front office crunching numbers. But they 1201 01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:23.680 need them though too, because they are right. If something 1202 01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:27.520 has a sixty five percent success ratio, then yeah, sure 1203 01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:29.840 you might think it's a dumb decision, but sixty five 1204 01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:32.560 percent of the odds are saying it's not. You know so, 1205 01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:36.039 But again, that just kind of shows you the unfortunate 1206 01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:43.279 clash of there. It's not definitive, but it's usually very 1207 01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:48.880 proven that athletes, for example, aren't as intellectual as say 1208 01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:52.640 a scientist or such. Meaning you could take that scientist 1209 01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:56.039 and try to have him be athletic or her doesn't 1210 01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:58.960 work out. They're just usually super awkward and stuff like that. 1211 01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:02.760 But they're so smart. But then not saying an athlete 1212 01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:06.119 is not intellectual. But man, I've seen some pretty wow. 1213 01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:07.920 Oh how did you get to where you are. 1214 01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:10.079 Seeing some Neanderthals on the football field? 1215 01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:13.039 Yes, that's all, yes, thank you man, So you know, 1216 01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:15.119 but they can do that. But now, if you were 1217 01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:17.800 to take that Neanderthal on the football field, like you said, 1218 01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:20.920 and ask them to crunch the numbers and you know, 1219 01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:24.319 show why you know we supports we do this. They 1220 01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:28.720 had no clue whatsoever. So yeah, it's something where it's 1221 01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:32.039 both needed, but it's just one of those natural clashing 1222 01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:34.319 and I think that occurred. Man, you had people that 1223 01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:38.079 were considered probably super smart, like all right, Cesius and 1224 01:15:38.399 --> 01:15:41.560 all these people that were the astrologers and such. I 1225 01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:46.039 don't know. Unfortunately, unless they were unlived and passed away 1226 01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:49.680 before the barbarians came in too, those people would have 1227 01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:50.560 just got rolled. 1228 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:56.079 Man. Yeah, they wouldn't have had I think they would 1229 01:15:56.079 --> 01:15:58.520 have known that there was no use fighting back, that 1230 01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:04.039 their capacity to fight and their military intelligence would would 1231 01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:06.000 be so limited that it was easier just to give 1232 01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:09.920 up and let things come what may. And I believe 1233 01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:10.800 that's what happened. 1234 01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:11.600 I agreed. 1235 01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:15.239 I mean, you can't reason with you know, they'd be 1236 01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:17.159 like being out in the woods and trying to reason 1237 01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:19.159 with a grizzly or a mountain lion or something that 1238 01:16:19.279 --> 01:16:22.119 was about to eat you. All it sees is food 1239 01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:25.640 and there's no reasoning that's going to cure that. And 1240 01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:27.800 the same with the barbarians. All they say is something 1241 01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:30.720 they can take, and what they don't want they're they're 1242 01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:32.279 quite content to destroy it. 1243 01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:36.760 It happens all the time. I mean even in modern 1244 01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:40.800 day wartimes. Unfortunately. You know, when cultures invade other cultures, 1245 01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:46.119 there have been great historical finds like complete dinosaur skeletons 1246 01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:48.000 almost and all kinds of beautiful things that have been 1247 01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:51.600 blown up and airstrikes, and no one cares about that 1248 01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:54.840 outside of unfortunately, the people that do in the cultures. 1249 01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:57.960 But like you said, usually when someone's invading, they're not 1250 01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:02.359 there because they respect your culture. They're there because they 1251 01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:05.399 don't care, and what you have is what they want. 1252 01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:08.439 And I mean you can't imagine, you know, saying, well, 1253 01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:11.439 let's go attack this place because they've got a fantastic 1254 01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:17.600 art museum, epergent nightlife, Seene and off Broadway theaters. You 1255 01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:23.279 won't believe. No, No, they've got gold, they've got food, 1256 01:17:23.319 --> 01:17:24.640 they've got women, let's go. 1257 01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:30.239 Yeah, exactly. And here's another example. I mean, look at 1258 01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:33.000 the Aztecs. Okay, you know what happened to them, right, Well, 1259 01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:35.439 they would go around to all these villages that they 1260 01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:38.880 thought were inferior to them and take all their women 1261 01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:42.840 and children and men and sacrifice them. So what happened 1262 01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:45.159 as soon as all the Spaniards came over. What do 1263 01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:47.680 you think all these indigenous cultures did that were being 1264 01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:52.640 abused and completely terrorized by the Aztecs. Yo, they're right 1265 01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:56.680 over here, like, let's go get these guys, dude, and 1266 01:17:56.760 --> 01:17:58.760 what do they do? They teamed up with the Spaniards 1267 01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:02.439 to remove the Aztec So, I mean, it's just that's 1268 01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:03.640 another example right there. 1269 01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:07.720 The span to be is my best friend exactly. 1270 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:11.880 Yes, Oh wait, you guys, wow, even though you're here 1271 01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:15.000 to pillage everything to you, you know, screw me over after, 1272 01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:16.920 it can't be worse than cutting my heart out and 1273 01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:19.800 kicking me down a huge flight of temple stairs, you. 1274 01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:24.560 Know, indeed. And it's it's amazing, you know, to look 1275 01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:27.600 back in the retrospect, you know, you can connect the 1276 01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:30.520 dots in reverse easily, but you can see how these 1277 01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:33.960 empires were formed, how they grew, and how they fell. 1278 01:18:34.039 --> 01:18:38.159 As my grandparents would have said, they got too big 1279 01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:42.159 for their breeches, and just being in that complacency like 1280 01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:44.880 you know, where the we're the smartest, we're the greatest, 1281 01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:48.880 where the biggest, But there's always somebody bigger and badder 1282 01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:49.920 that'll come along. 1283 01:18:51.159 --> 01:18:53.479 Yes, like you just said, it's just the way things 1284 01:18:54.199 --> 01:18:57.359 really occur. And here's something else that's super interesting that 1285 01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:00.640 I think will also classify into what people in the 1286 01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:04.479 past might have seen for misidentifications and such. There are 1287 01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:09.359 a ton of indigenous cultures that had really awesome get ups, 1288 01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:13.760 I mean, like big crow masks and feathers and such 1289 01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:16.640 that they would put on and they would wait till 1290 01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:18.800 the fog would come out and such, and they would 1291 01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:20.920 even go into the water and dip down like they 1292 01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:23.880 were drinking and flap all around. And some of the 1293 01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:29.520 more westernized individuals that had basically wanted to learn about 1294 01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:31.800 this were able to witness a lot of this stuff. 1295 01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:34.039 And they had done that with a lot of things 1296 01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:37.880 that they did. A ceremony that basically had something to 1297 01:19:37.960 --> 01:19:42.159 do with dog headed people where they would have people 1298 01:19:42.359 --> 01:19:44.439 run in on all fours and dressed up just like 1299 01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:47.640 the wolves with the furs on and everything, and then 1300 01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:52.079 one of the chief's son was supposedly unlive. Then all 1301 01:19:52.119 --> 01:19:54.479 the women would cry and the wolves would carry them away. 1302 01:19:55.159 --> 01:19:59.439 And when you see though, you're like, wow, that's super cool. 1303 01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:01.800 But also someone that's never seen that before, and if 1304 01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:06.319 they saw that in the fog and stuff, yes, and 1305 01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:08.560 they would think it was a giant pterosaur. 1306 01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:12.920 Military campaigns decades ago, they talked about shock and awe. 1307 01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:15.800 You know, that was a way to display military might 1308 01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:18.960 and prowess to your enemy and then just lay down 1309 01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:19.640 their weapons. 1310 01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:19.840 You know. 1311 01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:24.239 But I heard comedians say once that the way to 1312 01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:27.920 win a battle like that put people in mascot costumes. 1313 01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:32.319 He said, imagine, got these primitive people that that you're 1314 01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:35.039 getting ready to fight, and all of a sudden, here comes, 1315 01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:40.199 you know, a thousand troops in say a Disney costume 1316 01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:43.319 like Goofy costumes, charging over the hill, take no prisoners, 1317 01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:45.079 you know, and that's going to scare the life out 1318 01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:47.279 of them because it's, you know, to them and some 1319 01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:50.199 hideous apparition. They don't know what it is. It's some 1320 01:20:50.319 --> 01:20:53.920 kind of bizarre cartoon looking creature with a gun shooting 1321 01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:56.119 at him. I mean, that's he was saying it to 1322 01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:58.880 be funny. But I think there's a little nugget of truth. 1323 01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:02.760 In there that's beautiful. And actually, I will give you 1324 01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:04.880 a big nugget of truth right there. A lot of 1325 01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:09.760 people assume that you know the whole I don't. I know, 1326 01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:11.840 I can't use this word on YouTube, so if you 1327 01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:13.720 have to edit it out, I'll use another word right 1328 01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:18.199 after both the Nazis zombies or the World War. Okay, 1329 01:21:18.359 --> 01:21:22.680 So a lot of people with the Nazis problem, Okay, 1330 01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:25.800 think of that terminology like in the video games and such. 1331 01:21:26.079 --> 01:21:29.399 That's actually not the very first story of that. It 1332 01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:33.920 was actually the Russians that were these quote unquote zombies. 1333 01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:38.560 So this group of Russians, unfortunately, were in an outpost 1334 01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:40.960 that was like a little mini kind of castle from 1335 01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:43.720 what I understand from the way it was drawn and described, 1336 01:21:44.199 --> 01:21:48.319 and it was surrounded by dense forest everywhere, and the 1337 01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:51.319 Germans and the Dirty Stash and the SS were coming 1338 01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:54.319 in to try to overtake this area. But the way 1339 01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:58.199 the way they were replaced, the Russians actually had the 1340 01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:02.600 advantage and they hadn't been overtaken yet. And I don't 1341 01:22:02.640 --> 01:22:04.680 know how long this had gone on, but it was 1342 01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:08.199 for quite a long time for these soldiers to be 1343 01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:11.920 able to hold off this huge, monstrous army that was coming. 1344 01:22:12.319 --> 01:22:14.640 And actually before I finished that too, like you were saying, 1345 01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:17.880 the appearance, if you look at like the SS and 1346 01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:20.720 the Dirty Stash, how he dressed them, they looked like 1347 01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:23.119 terrifying man with their gas masks with like the red 1348 01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:25.600 eyes and stuff. So yeah, there you go about like 1349 01:22:26.119 --> 01:22:29.159 hearing you know, your quote unquote victims. But that continues 1350 01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:31.840 into what I'm saying. So all of a sudden, one night, 1351 01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:35.359 this group of Russians heres bump dump dump dump dump 1352 01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:38.000 dump dump dump. They're like, what the hecktual? They opened 1353 01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:40.720 the front of the door real quick and dump dump 1354 01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:44.279 dump dump. They start realizing this is like birds and 1355 01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:49.439 animals just dropping to their demise from these trees, and 1356 01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:53.439 it's shriveling up because there's some sort of nasty, toxic 1357 01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:57.600 chemical that has been dispersed. Because earlier in the day 1358 01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:01.840 they had seen in the males or whatever the bunkers 1359 01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:05.199 that there were. They couldn't tell what the heck the 1360 01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:08.399 uppers and the ss were saying, but they were over 1361 01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:10.760 there doing something because they were looking up in the 1362 01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:13.800 sky and basically trying to see which direction the wind 1363 01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:16.640 was going. But nothing after that occurred. Well, now it 1364 01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:19.600 all occurred that, oh crap, that's what they were doing earlier. 1365 01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:22.039 They were figuring out the wind direction so that when 1366 01:23:22.079 --> 01:23:23.239 it was right they could do this. 1367 01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:24.520 Oh crap. 1368 01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:27.640 Well, sure enough, they closed the door and all this, 1369 01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:30.000 but the dan gas comes into so they tried to 1370 01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:33.640 wet everything. Well, unfortunately by wetting things and putting it 1371 01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:36.319 over your mouth, this type of gas just made it worse. 1372 01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:40.359 So literally all these soldiers man were coughing up pieces 1373 01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:43.560 of their lungs, their skin was melting off, their bones 1374 01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:47.840 were starting to disintegrate. Well, they were all like, you 1375 01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:53.199 know what, these mother truckers want a battle, We're gonna 1376 01:23:53.239 --> 01:23:56.840 give them a freaking battle. So as they started encroaching 1377 01:23:56.960 --> 01:24:00.720 up on this castle, these now decrepit and basically living 1378 01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:05.119 dead Russian soldiers bust open the door and they're like 1379 01:24:07.199 --> 01:24:09.960 like shooting off their weapons. All the Germans were like, dude, 1380 01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:14.039 what in the Christmas trees are those? Because they literally 1381 01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:16.319 sounded and looked like zombies walking with their feet all 1382 01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:19.520 bent and their bodies distorted, and they all ran off. Man, 1383 01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:23.000 they were getting caught on the barbed wire, dude, and everything, 1384 01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:25.560 and they were just going up and I'm alive in 1385 01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:29.479 all these Germans. And apparently one German shoved like a 1386 01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:33.319 bayonet through the head Russian guys stomach, but he didn't 1387 01:24:33.319 --> 01:24:35.640 feel anything at this point in time. He just spit 1388 01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:37.359 on him and pulled it out and lit them up, 1389 01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:40.600 and all the Germans ran away. But obviously eventually the 1390 01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:44.640 Russians fell and Sirt came to this nasty toxin. But 1391 01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:48.199 that's pretty much hole. The whole Nazi world war zombie 1392 01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:50.279 thing kind of came into play cool stuff, man. 1393 01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:54.920 Yeah, indeed, Yeah, we had a couple of pastors on 1394 01:24:55.039 --> 01:25:00.439 here talking about the Third Reich and a cult that 1395 01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:04.439 there was a lot of interest in that among Hitler 1396 01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:08.279 and his minions in trying to win the battle through 1397 01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:11.840 whatever remains that they turned to some occult things, with 1398 01:25:12.039 --> 01:25:16.079 some rituals and things that they did, and you know, 1399 01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:21.239 that's whatever remains necessary. You know, war is war, and 1400 01:25:21.359 --> 01:25:23.680 if you have to turn to something dark and something 1401 01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:26.880 evil and something supernatural, if it helps you win the war, 1402 01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:29.319 then so be. It was the way they looked at it, apparently. 1403 01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:33.560 He definitely. I mean, okay, again, I'm spiritual, like I've 1404 01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:35.720 told you before, I'm not religious, so I don't learn 1405 01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:37.560 about a lot of this stuff until you know, Dennis 1406 01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:39.800 Carroll and other people such as yourself that are super 1407 01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:44.039 educated on the biblical aspects, and Dennis really is educated 1408 01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:48.399 on the cult stuff. Well, I mean it can't be ironic, 1409 01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:51.199 and I don't believe in coincidences really, I mean, I'm 1410 01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:54.000 sure maybe they exist, Okay, but why is it every 1411 01:25:54.119 --> 01:25:57.800 supposed demonic area or areas that were considered to be 1412 01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:02.399 of dire ste away from did the SS and the 1413 01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:06.079 Dirty Stash show up to I mean Castle Houshka or Hushka. 1414 01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:09.800 And the Czech Republic was built to supposedly keep these 1415 01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:13.840 demonic like beings that were coming up out, I mean 1416 01:26:14.079 --> 01:26:20.239 things that looked like goatmen, werewolves, shadow figures, the Jersey Devil, 1417 01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:24.600 creep creepy stuff. So why did the SS and Heinrich 1418 01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:29.640 Kindler go there and then start practicing their own sort 1419 01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:33.880 of strange rituals. And the Dirty Stash was very meticulous. 1420 01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:37.680 He documented everything, It's just what he did. And sure 1421 01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:40.159 he talks about how he burned some of them, meaning 1422 01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:43.159 he didn't want others or you know, people to know 1423 01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:46.760 about what was occurring. But they, you know, documented how 1424 01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:50.000 this area reaked a sulfur and all this stuff. And 1425 01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:53.920 also recently in the Czech Republic they found thirteen thousand 1426 01:26:53.960 --> 01:26:57.439 occult books that the SS and the Dirty Stash had 1427 01:26:57.520 --> 01:27:01.560 hidden in a bunker and amongst all these books. Of course, 1428 01:27:01.600 --> 01:27:04.079 there are all the cursed books that are banned in 1429 01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:07.520 countries and certain religious groups. And man, when you got 1430 01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:11.720 thirteen thousand books that are diving into pretty questionable stuff, 1431 01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:16.279 and then you're showing up in pretty questionable areas consistently, 1432 01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:18.560 I mean, you got at least at some point in 1433 01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:20.880 time figure out something pretty messed up. 1434 01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:30.640 Correct. Yeah, indeed. And again it's just you can't even fathom, 1435 01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:34.359 you know, like I would think of our military, you know, 1436 01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:38.880 holding rituals and things, but that probably happens. I mean, 1437 01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:43.079 there are people in the military. Michael Lokuino I think 1438 01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:46.239 he was a colonel or something major general, I don't remember. 1439 01:27:46.600 --> 01:27:50.279 He was heavily steeped in the occult and drew from 1440 01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:54.600 that from a militaristic perspective. So it does go on. 1441 01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:59.000 I don't think it's as prevalent as it was in 1442 01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:03.760 that in the Reich, but we never know. You don't 1443 01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:05.960 know what goes on behind closed doors and in those 1444 01:28:06.039 --> 01:28:09.000 secret chambers, and it could very well be. I mean 1445 01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:12.479 I covered a thing about uh. I think we talked 1446 01:28:12.520 --> 01:28:14.520 about this when I had John talking about dog Man 1447 01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:17.760 about a research project back in the sixties where they 1448 01:28:17.800 --> 01:28:21.920 were trying to control beagles remotely, and then how they 1449 01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:26.239 may have jumped out over into humans and then had 1450 01:28:26.319 --> 01:28:29.319 some sort of K nine human hybrid before they were 1451 01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:31.119 That came about when they were trying to build a 1452 01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:35.640 super soldier, and there's all kinds of stuff we don't 1453 01:28:35.680 --> 01:28:36.039 know about. 1454 01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:38.960 I know, isn't that so crazy? 1455 01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:39.520 My friend? 1456 01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:44.119 It's recently and sorry about that. I thought my phone 1457 01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:46.800 was muted. That's just my own intro lorry right free, 1458 01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:48.640 so you can use any of that. It's just my 1459 01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:51.159 home Star Fox thing. But yeah, no, recently they again 1460 01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:55.319 near a castle Houseka. When people speak about the Berserker 1461 01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:58.039 program and the super Soldiers that the quote unquote they 1462 01:28:58.079 --> 01:28:59.840 were trying to make, well, well they found I believe 1463 01:28:59.880 --> 01:29:05.319 was fifteen German soldiers that had very strange military gear 1464 01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:11.319 on and deformities. And again I don't believe in coincidences, 1465 01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:13.960 nor do these individuals. I mean, why did they all 1466 01:29:14.039 --> 01:29:17.720 have these kind of deformities or what we think are deformities, 1467 01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:20.239 But maybe they were trying to make it so they 1468 01:29:20.279 --> 01:29:23.720 weren't deformities. And again right there, I mean you have 1469 01:29:23.880 --> 01:29:27.239 documents of him talking about trying to make the quote 1470 01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:31.479 unquote super reading program et cetera, where he was trying 1471 01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:35.399 to make like, you know, super humans by you know, sure, 1472 01:29:35.479 --> 01:29:39.399 I'm assuming by means that no different the bodybuilders and 1473 01:29:39.640 --> 01:29:42.560 such do, and maybe other sorts of means. I mean, 1474 01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:46.359 I do know Stalin and such did try to have 1475 01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:50.279 somebody make an ape army. But again, like I've spoken 1476 01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:53.439 about before, I mean, I'm always open to change my mind, 1477 01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:55.199 but as far as I know, with science and things, 1478 01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:58.600 this would occur naturally, and it hasn't. I mean, if 1479 01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:02.439 a chicken can go and mate with an alligator, there 1480 01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:05.199 would be an alligator chicken, but the alligator eats the chicken. 1481 01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:09.279 So yes, numerous times he tried to inciminate women with 1482 01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:12.279 chimpdy in a and vice versa, but it didn't work, 1483 01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:16.279 because yes, it doesn't work like that. But I guess 1484 01:30:16.399 --> 01:30:19.600 they didn't necessarily go on for that long. But Stalin 1485 01:30:19.680 --> 01:30:23.079 quote unquote had seen enough, so apparently he was like, yo, 1486 01:30:23.239 --> 01:30:25.159 this is a waste of my time and assets. But 1487 01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:29.439 either way, again, the dirty Stash and such was into 1488 01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:33.760 things like that. I mean, I do remember a video 1489 01:30:33.880 --> 01:30:35.880 I don't know if it was Russian or German where 1490 01:30:35.920 --> 01:30:38.399 they took the head of a smaller dog and put 1491 01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:40.680 it on a larger dog and vice versa. And they 1492 01:30:40.720 --> 01:30:43.840 also took a dog completely off but hooked it up 1493 01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:46.479 to a machine where that was basically like a heart 1494 01:30:46.600 --> 01:30:49.119 that was still providing oxygen and stuff to the brain. 1495 01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:52.520 And this dog would notice citrus and things and still lick. 1496 01:30:53.159 --> 01:30:56.560 And unfortunately I saw something that the good old boys 1497 01:30:56.600 --> 01:30:58.960 over here had done a point in time with an 1498 01:30:59.039 --> 01:31:02.560 eight same thing, its head off. And man, I mean, 1499 01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:06.800 so this type of occurrence is new, so it is 1500 01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:09.479 very interesting. And then when you find those soldiers, well 1501 01:31:09.560 --> 01:31:11.720 it kind of again ties a little bit more clarity 1502 01:31:11.800 --> 01:31:12.079 into it. 1503 01:31:12.119 --> 01:31:16.680 I feel like, yeah, And I saw a documentary it's 1504 01:31:17.039 --> 01:31:23.119 on YouTube. It's called Madness on the Motorway about these sisters. 1505 01:31:23.119 --> 01:31:26.680 I believe they're twins that were walking along one of 1506 01:31:26.720 --> 01:31:30.479 the motorways in the UK and ended up getting into 1507 01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:33.039 all kinds of trouble. One of them got hit by 1508 01:31:33.039 --> 01:31:35.920 a car and then got up and they were trying 1509 01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:38.279 to fight the police. And I don't know, I just 1510 01:31:39.159 --> 01:31:41.239 watched that. I'll send you a link to it. I 1511 01:31:41.399 --> 01:31:44.119 believe they were part of some kind of super soldier program. 1512 01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:48.119 One of them, I think she jumped off a bridge 1513 01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:50.399 or something. To try to get away. There was a 1514 01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:53.000 guy that took him in that was I think he 1515 01:31:53.079 --> 01:31:55.640 was a retired military and it was theorized that he 1516 01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:59.359 recognized what they were some kind of mk ultra type programming, 1517 01:31:59.399 --> 01:32:01.359 but they were trying to make super soldiers in just 1518 01:32:01.840 --> 01:32:04.840 they absolutely wreaked haaboc and they were from I think 1519 01:32:04.920 --> 01:32:07.439 Sweden or something like that. But it's just the whole 1520 01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:09.359 thing is just absolutely bizarre. 1521 01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:15.359 Yeah, I had heard about that before. That's pretty interesting 1522 01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:16.119 stuff right there. 1523 01:32:16.199 --> 01:32:16.359 Man. 1524 01:32:16.479 --> 01:32:19.920 And also something else too that kind of ties a 1525 01:32:19.920 --> 01:32:22.279 little bit into that is I don't know if you 1526 01:32:22.359 --> 01:32:27.520 ever heard of Robert Businger or Bobby Abusinger from Vador, Texas. 1527 01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:30.319 The name sends man. 1528 01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:33.560 It was in like the late seventies where he now 1529 01:32:33.720 --> 01:32:35.720 is able to talk about it because I guess there 1530 01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:38.239 was some sort of court order where he couldn't speak 1531 01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:40.640 about it for a very long period of time, but 1532 01:32:41.479 --> 01:32:46.399 he in the paper more or less they describe some 1533 01:32:46.560 --> 01:32:50.039 disturbing stuff that occurred. But yeah, he talks about it too, 1534 01:32:50.359 --> 01:32:56.039 and he speaks about how this very large man but 1535 01:32:56.319 --> 01:33:01.079 he seemed animalistic more or less, but it was definitely 1536 01:33:01.239 --> 01:33:03.720 looked like a man ish but he would come to 1537 01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:06.920 this property that Bobby and his wife lived on and 1538 01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:09.920 would howl and would always bang on the side of 1539 01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:12.439 the house so hard that it would knock out the 1540 01:33:13.800 --> 01:33:16.960 ornaments off of paul silver plates down as such. So 1541 01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:20.239 Bobby obviously was getting a little upset with that, but 1542 01:33:20.439 --> 01:33:24.760 was intimidated to go outside and potentially confront this individual. 1543 01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:28.560 So he ends up waiting for it to stop. The 1544 01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:30.359 next day and this had been going on for quite 1545 01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:31.960 a while and he gets a hold of his friend 1546 01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:36.159 who had some really badass I believe they were German 1547 01:33:36.239 --> 01:33:40.960 shepherds and guard dogs. Well, this dude again came back 1548 01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:46.239 and well he tore apart all these dogs and just 1549 01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:49.359 start banging on the house again. Well, finally the police 1550 01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:54.159 did show up and explain to Bobby that they had 1551 01:33:54.279 --> 01:33:56.720 found this individual walking down the middle of the street. 1552 01:33:56.920 --> 01:33:59.479 He was covered in blood, you know, my swiming from 1553 01:33:59.600 --> 01:34:02.319 wound with the dogs, but also the dog's blood. But 1554 01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:05.359 apparently he didn't feel pain more or less and was 1555 01:34:05.439 --> 01:34:09.520 some crazy bodybuilder, but was also in a quote unquote 1556 01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:14.840 insane asylum that he had escaped from. Just interesting, especially 1557 01:34:14.880 --> 01:34:17.680 the fact that when this article first came out that 1558 01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:21.359 the deputies decided to roll with the fact that they 1559 01:34:21.399 --> 01:34:25.079 were pushing it was a werewolf fully, which is interesting. 1560 01:34:25.119 --> 01:34:27.479 Why the heck they would choose that narrative over this, 1561 01:34:27.680 --> 01:34:31.039 But this guy was still describing this dude as being 1562 01:34:31.119 --> 01:34:35.600 animalistic like that, and it's just interesting, like you were saying, potentially, 1563 01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:37.880 you know, because they said to Bobby that he didn't 1564 01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:41.439 feel pain, which there is some disease for that, which 1565 01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:44.640 is interesting, But that's pretty gnarly stuff. Again. I mean, 1566 01:34:44.680 --> 01:34:46.760 if you got somebody that's not feeling pain and it's 1567 01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:50.159 capable of doing massive amounts of destruction like that dude. 1568 01:34:50.359 --> 01:34:53.359 He was hitting his house so hard, dishes were falling 1569 01:34:53.439 --> 01:34:55.399 over and it wasn't bothering him. I mean, if that 1570 01:34:55.520 --> 01:34:58.119 dude came inside, what the heck was Bobby gonna do 1571 01:34:58.399 --> 01:35:00.760 and his wife unless they got it headshot. That's just 1572 01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:02.840 completely unlive that guy. You know. 1573 01:35:03.159 --> 01:35:06.920 Yeah, it's frightening to think about, But I think there's 1574 01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:10.960 something to all that. There's all kinds of genetic experiments 1575 01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:14.840 and DNA programming and things like that that go on 1576 01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:18.000 that we have very little knowledge of, and if anybody 1577 01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:20.680 tries to shine a light on it, then you're a 1578 01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:24.560 tenfoil hatter or a conspiracy theorist, and you know, a conspiracy, 1579 01:35:25.119 --> 01:35:27.800 all that means is two or more people conspired together 1580 01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:30.600 to do something that they probably weren't supposed to do. 1581 01:35:31.359 --> 01:35:34.560 So I like studying those conspiracies. Now. Some of them 1582 01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:40.520 are off the wall bizarre stuff, but there's certain ones 1583 01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:44.560 that I kind of buy into. I think some of 1584 01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:46.800 them are conspiracy theories, but some of them will turn 1585 01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:50.479 out to be conspiracy fact And because I know stuff 1586 01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:53.079 that I've heard, have people come at me and so, well, 1587 01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:55.560 that's just a conspiracy theory. But I know that it's 1588 01:35:55.640 --> 01:36:01.079 not like Operation Peppercliff. We were talking about Germany there 1589 01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:03.840 after the war. They brought a bunch of sciences over 1590 01:36:03.880 --> 01:36:08.000 here and put them to work. And somebody say, oh, 1591 01:36:08.079 --> 01:36:11.760 that's just that didn't really happen, But it did. My 1592 01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:17.000 dad worked laboratory, yeah, and he worked right alongside some 1593 01:36:17.079 --> 01:36:18.760 of those guys. And I've told the story about how 1594 01:36:18.840 --> 01:36:21.199 I went home with a kid from school had a 1595 01:36:21.399 --> 01:36:24.720 very German last name. My dad worked with his dad 1596 01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:28.479 at the National Laboratory. Well, we're playing in the basement. 1597 01:36:28.560 --> 01:36:30.479 They had a wreck room that was a big thing 1598 01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:33.239 back in the seventies as a basement of Rancher house 1599 01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:37.159 and he went to the back while he said, Steve Khmerre, 1600 01:36:37.159 --> 01:36:40.159 I want to show you something. And he pushes the 1601 01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:42.680 wall and it starts opening up, and I'm thinking, okay, yeah, 1602 01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:47.239 it's a bomb shelter. We didn't have one, but I 1603 01:36:47.319 --> 01:36:49.920 knew kids did. That was a Cold war thing. Everybody 1604 01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:52.880 had a bomb shelter like that would really do you 1605 01:36:52.960 --> 01:36:55.520 any good. But I thought, okay, he's going to show 1606 01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:58.000 me his bomb shelter. Well, he opens it up, he 1607 01:36:58.079 --> 01:37:01.840 flicks on the light. The florescence click on in Starfox. 1608 01:37:02.199 --> 01:37:05.479 It was one of the biggest private collections of Nazi 1609 01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:09.359 war member bilia that I've ever seen, assembled into this 1610 01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:14.000 room back there, and he had an SS uniform in 1611 01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:17.199 a like a plexi last case that I'm looking at 1612 01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:20.119 that and said, wow, your dad really is into his 1613 01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:24.720 war memberabilia. And he said, you don't understand. He said 1614 01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:30.039 that was his uniform. So there you go. Conspiracy facts there. 1615 01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:33.960 Operation Paperclip was very very real and now they know it, 1616 01:37:34.159 --> 01:37:36.600 but there was a time when it wasn't. 1617 01:37:37.600 --> 01:37:39.680 That's great stuff right there, and no, I was just 1618 01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:42.039 gonna say that's all documented. I mean, people can look 1619 01:37:42.079 --> 01:37:44.399 at it and check it all out, man. I mean, 1620 01:37:45.039 --> 01:37:47.239 to me, a conspiracy is something that has nothing to 1621 01:37:47.319 --> 01:37:48.920 back it up. But I mean, when you can see 1622 01:37:49.720 --> 01:37:52.399 I'm going to butcher his name. But Eric Truth came 1623 01:37:52.439 --> 01:37:54.880 over and worked on Plumb Island. I mean that guy 1624 01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:59.039 was in charge of putting people. Don't realize lime disease 1625 01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:02.680 has always been something that is inside a tics. Okay, 1626 01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:05.600 it's been detected way back in prehistoric times. But what 1627 01:38:05.720 --> 01:38:08.239 he did is he was able to amplify that and 1628 01:38:08.359 --> 01:38:11.039 put that into basically like a hybrid type tick. 1629 01:38:11.359 --> 01:38:13.520 Now, no way to weaponize it. See, that's what our 1630 01:38:13.640 --> 01:38:17.960 society does, discovery. How can we weaponize it hard? You 1631 01:38:18.039 --> 01:38:19.960 know I was even guilty of that as a kid. 1632 01:38:20.079 --> 01:38:23.640 I I'm going to tell on myself. Hey, this is 1633 01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:26.199 kind of humorous, but I said, my dad, you know, 1634 01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:27.880 was part of the war machine. He worked at the 1635 01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:32.279 National Laboratory before that, he was involved with the Manhattan Project. Well, 1636 01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:35.880 I had an idea, and I'm just going to use 1637 01:38:35.960 --> 01:38:39.439 the word fart here. If anybody's offended, I apologize. I 1638 01:38:39.640 --> 01:38:42.479 was wondering how I had a scientific mind deal because 1639 01:38:42.520 --> 01:38:44.960 of my dad. So I was wondering as a child. 1640 01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:49.199 I was about six years old, maybe seven. I thought, 1641 01:38:49.199 --> 01:38:52.880 I wonder if you could freeze a fart, So I 1642 01:38:53.079 --> 01:38:55.399 captured one in a mana Is jar. My mom was 1643 01:38:55.439 --> 01:38:58.319 always saving jars form because I had a little natural 1644 01:38:58.439 --> 01:39:02.000 history museum and an old chicken coop outside, and I'd 1645 01:39:02.079 --> 01:39:05.960 put you know, animal skeletons and stuff like that in jars. Well, 1646 01:39:06.039 --> 01:39:09.880 I captured fart. I'll leave that to everybody's imagination how 1647 01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:14.079 I did that, and put it into the freezer. And 1648 01:39:14.239 --> 01:39:17.800 I had another jar, so I captured another one, and 1649 01:39:18.319 --> 01:39:20.760 I left the lid kind of loose, and I took 1650 01:39:20.800 --> 01:39:23.680 it to my dad and I'm just all innocent, like, daddy, 1651 01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:26.239 can you get the lid off this? And I knew 1652 01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:27.800 what he'd do, you know. He pulled it right up 1653 01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:30.239 under his chin and gave it a big twist. Course 1654 01:39:30.359 --> 01:39:33.279 the lid blew right off, and he got a strange 1655 01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:34.720 look on his face and he shoved it back and 1656 01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:38.199 he said, you get out of here with that. And 1657 01:39:38.319 --> 01:39:39.680 then a little bit later he comes in. 1658 01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:40.960 You know what he did. 1659 01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:45.880 He farted in a Manai's jar and handed it to me, 1660 01:39:46.239 --> 01:39:48.720 and like a dummy, I opened it up and my 1661 01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:50.680 mom turns and stairs right at me, and she said, 1662 01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:55.560 what's in that jar, that's the freezer. So that ended 1663 01:39:55.640 --> 01:39:58.359 my experiment. But that was my idea. If we could 1664 01:39:58.399 --> 01:40:02.159 freeze him, we could weaponiz Imagine on the battlefield you 1665 01:40:02.279 --> 01:40:05.239 drop frozen farts from twenty thousand feet, you know, when 1666 01:40:05.279 --> 01:40:07.279 they hit everybody, Oh my god. 1667 01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:07.359 You know. 1668 01:40:07.479 --> 01:40:17.560 So my own version of a gas attack. Literally, I 1669 01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:22.119 had a strange childhood. My mom is from Appalachia. Kate's 1670 01:40:22.199 --> 01:40:25.479 Kobert the smoke. He's very superstitious. My grandmother on that 1671 01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:28.520 side was a gypsy witch. She called herself a granny witch, 1672 01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:31.720 they call him. And then my dad, you know, highly educated, 1673 01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:35.760 a man of science. So there I was the perfect 1674 01:40:35.840 --> 01:40:39.800 blend of science and superstition, sprang forth bewildered. I had 1675 01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:42.840 the best of the worst of both worlds. So yeah, 1676 01:40:42.960 --> 01:40:45.960 that's but yeah, that's just the thing, you know, And 1677 01:40:46.079 --> 01:40:48.319 I think a lot of people are that way, not children, 1678 01:40:48.640 --> 01:40:51.279 but everybody. You know, how can we weaponize this? How 1679 01:40:51.319 --> 01:40:54.720 can we use this to force our way on people? 1680 01:40:56.920 --> 01:40:59.840 Yeah, I mean, and it's not what he to weaponized, 1681 01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:03.039 But I'm laughing at your reference as the weaponization right there, 1682 01:41:03.199 --> 01:41:07.079 And no, it's true. It's just the way things you know, 1683 01:41:07.319 --> 01:41:11.560 tend to work in that aspect. So now it's super interesting, 1684 01:41:12.239 --> 01:41:15.760 but it's just the way things work. So Eric Truth 1685 01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:19.720 would just put insects that were infected inside of the 1686 01:41:19.800 --> 01:41:22.720 forest that obviously anyone that was coming in to try 1687 01:41:22.800 --> 01:41:27.319 to overthrow the SS would be infected by They were 1688 01:41:28.079 --> 01:41:31.640 claiming that to villagers that needed food and such. They 1689 01:41:31.720 --> 01:41:34.920 were dropping in like clothing that was infected and all 1690 01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:36.720 kinds of things. So I mean, we brought him over 1691 01:41:36.800 --> 01:41:40.520 here because when the Russians went in and we went in, 1692 01:41:40.760 --> 01:41:44.640 well we were a little bit nicer in what we offered. 1693 01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:47.359 The Russians were like, yo, you come with us, or 1694 01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:49.439 your head's on the floor more or less than everyone 1695 01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:52.359 you know is just no longer. We were like, all right, 1696 01:41:52.520 --> 01:41:53.159 you come with us. 1697 01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:54.760 We're going to wipe your war crimes. 1698 01:41:54.920 --> 01:41:59.600 So I mean, also, another member of the SS's top 1699 01:41:59.800 --> 01:42:03.840 astrophysicists was a big part in our venture into outer 1700 01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:06.279 space and also with NASA. So I mean, to me, 1701 01:42:06.359 --> 01:42:09.840 those aren't conspiracy theories because there are files that back 1702 01:42:09.920 --> 01:42:11.600 that all up. So I mean, if it was just 1703 01:42:12.119 --> 01:42:15.960 a one sided perspective of an individual saying that, then 1704 01:42:16.079 --> 01:42:19.600 sure always questionable. But when you see all the facts 1705 01:42:19.680 --> 01:42:24.439 that backed that all up. I mean, it's no longer questionable. 1706 01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:28.720 I mean it's presented as evidence, right, Yeah, And you. 1707 01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:31.359 Know some of the stuff that's come to light, if 1708 01:42:31.439 --> 01:42:34.000 that stuff they actually did. How much stuff is out 1709 01:42:34.039 --> 01:42:36.520 there that's hidden away, that's in you know, the Black 1710 01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:40.079 Beault or wherever that is still kept under lock and key, 1711 01:42:40.239 --> 01:42:42.680 or the documents that have been redacted, maybe a word 1712 01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:46.560 or two left on them. Strange strange times that we 1713 01:42:46.680 --> 01:42:50.079 live in, my friend, Yeah, isn't that the truth? 1714 01:42:50.239 --> 01:42:53.479 I mean, as I said, it's great with some of 1715 01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:55.640 the things, but then you're just like, wow, what the hecks? 1716 01:42:55.680 --> 01:42:57.840 I mean, in general, I love to learn, so I'm 1717 01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:00.920 always trying to learn. I mean, but there's obviously darker 1718 01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:04.159 points in time, like yeah, do I agree with anything 1719 01:43:04.279 --> 01:43:06.119 that the SS and all them did? Of course not. 1720 01:43:06.640 --> 01:43:08.680 But from a person that likes to learn. When I 1721 01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:11.600 look at like how advanced some of their weaponry was 1722 01:43:11.680 --> 01:43:16.239 and stuff, it's fascinating how that was created. I mean, 1723 01:43:16.479 --> 01:43:18.760 how if you look at the differences. I mean, we 1724 01:43:18.880 --> 01:43:22.279 had these little turty tanks, but they had these huge 1725 01:43:22.399 --> 01:43:25.000 tigers that would come out and demolish them. But yes, 1726 01:43:25.079 --> 01:43:26.920 of course we figured out. You could put rocks and 1727 01:43:27.159 --> 01:43:28.960 logs under there that get stuck up in there, and 1728 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.359 you can blow them up with rocket launchers. We had 1729 01:43:31.479 --> 01:43:37.000 pretty cool battleships. They had massive battleships. I mean, learning 1730 01:43:37.039 --> 01:43:40.399 all that and actually stepping back and realizing the way 1731 01:43:40.520 --> 01:43:43.600 Normandy was set up and such, and how this country 1732 01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:46.560 that's not even what the size of Texas, give or take, 1733 01:43:46.680 --> 01:43:49.840 was almost able to overtake the whole world. I mean, 1734 01:43:50.520 --> 01:43:54.479 it just shows you genius or madman. That guy was both. 1735 01:43:54.760 --> 01:43:57.760 I mean, how do you do all that? And how 1736 01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:00.800 advanced are you? But then you see the insanity, And 1737 01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:04.000 that's what people say with genius insanity, it's how do 1738 01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:06.079 you walk at cocky confident? You know, it's a very 1739 01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:09.159 thin line, because imagine if he took everything he did 1740 01:44:09.279 --> 01:44:12.079 for a positive thing, what he could have created. I mean, 1741 01:44:12.359 --> 01:44:17.119 the Auto Bond, Mercedes, the Volkswagen, those were all created 1742 01:44:17.199 --> 01:44:19.600 by him. I'm not saying those things were created for 1743 01:44:19.720 --> 01:44:22.920 good purposes, but those are things that actually are used 1744 01:44:23.479 --> 01:44:27.560 still in modern day times as I guess, potentially positive 1745 01:44:27.640 --> 01:44:31.520 things I mean, etcetera. So imagine if, like I said, 1746 01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:34.079 they put all that energy to good things, but they 1747 01:44:34.119 --> 01:44:37.560 didn't they put it towards mass weapons of destruction. But 1748 01:44:38.359 --> 01:44:40.800 if they weren't smart, how the heck did they all 1749 01:44:40.920 --> 01:44:43.039 do that? It took almost the whole world to stop them, 1750 01:44:43.079 --> 01:44:43.239 you know. 1751 01:44:43.560 --> 01:44:48.000 Yeah, And that's uh, you know, like the Tuskegee experiment, 1752 01:44:48.119 --> 01:44:50.319 things like that, But that was the whole impetus behind 1753 01:44:50.720 --> 01:44:53.399 Operation paper Clippers, Like, well, we can take these guys 1754 01:44:53.880 --> 01:44:57.079 and prosecute his war criminals, execute him or whatever, or 1755 01:44:57.239 --> 01:44:59.960 we can quietly put them to work in our facil 1756 01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:03.239 these an oak Ridge and lost almost places like that 1757 01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:07.319 Montauk and picked their brains literally see what they know 1758 01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:10.560 that we don't, and use that for our own good, 1759 01:45:10.680 --> 01:45:15.159 for our own advancements. And I see the thinking behind it. 1760 01:45:15.239 --> 01:45:17.560 I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it. I 1761 01:45:17.720 --> 01:45:19.399 just don't have an opinion on it, because how do 1762 01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:22.600 he you know, how could you? You can't really justify it. 1763 01:45:22.800 --> 01:45:26.319 But that's that was the thinking behind it anyway. But 1764 01:45:27.159 --> 01:45:30.920 you know, that weaponizing things, that's I mean, even before that, 1765 01:45:31.159 --> 01:45:35.960 it was like during the times when in the West, 1766 01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:38.720 you know, when they fought the wars against indigenous people, 1767 01:45:39.279 --> 01:45:42.319 they infected blankets with smallpox and gave them to them, 1768 01:45:42.760 --> 01:45:45.760 you know, it was just there's nothing new. People are 1769 01:45:46.279 --> 01:45:48.640 I mean and you know, war as hell. That's that's true, 1770 01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:50.640 and people are mean to one to know that. I 1771 01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:53.199 heard somebody say one time, if you can figure out 1772 01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:57.119 how to have a war and not hurt anybody, then 1773 01:45:57.199 --> 01:45:59.880 let's do that. But you know, sadly, that's that's just 1774 01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:03.319 the way it goes. I prefer peace. I'm peaceful first, 1775 01:46:03.319 --> 01:46:07.960 and peace loving person. Slow and like you, I'm not 1776 01:46:08.119 --> 01:46:10.239 religious at all, but I'm very spiritual. 1777 01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:13.279 Yes, good vibes, dude. Just people want to call me 1778 01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:15.239 a tree hugger or whatever. Did I'm with you, man, 1779 01:46:15.279 --> 01:46:17.800 I just try to put out good vibes to learn 1780 01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:21.000 and just be a very good individualist. I couldn't agree 1781 01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:21.760 with all that more, man. 1782 01:46:22.560 --> 01:46:26.319 Yeah, And if you look at that from a biblical perspective, 1783 01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:29.319 Jesus didn't go to church. The only time Jesus was 1784 01:46:29.359 --> 01:46:31.680 ever in the temple, he was either there to educate 1785 01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:36.880 the elders or to chase out the money lenders. I 1786 01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:38.840 heard somebody say, the devil goes to church and he 1787 01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:40.079 sits on the front piew. 1788 01:46:40.199 --> 01:46:44.239 So there you go, right, yes again, pret right there. 1789 01:46:44.319 --> 01:46:46.000 That's just all excellent stuff, for sure. 1790 01:46:46.079 --> 01:46:48.920 And I've seen some of the worst fights and some 1791 01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:53.239 of the nastiness come out of people in a church fight. 1792 01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:55.119 That's one of the ugliest things I've ever seen is 1793 01:46:55.119 --> 01:46:57.520 a church fight when the church is divided in one 1794 01:46:57.600 --> 01:47:00.239 side against the other. Went through that with one of 1795 01:47:00.279 --> 01:47:03.039 my brothers church. I mean, people were making death threats 1796 01:47:03.079 --> 01:47:06.680 and stuff, and these are church people. You need to 1797 01:47:06.720 --> 01:47:07.920 go back and start over. 1798 01:47:08.720 --> 01:47:10.720 That's like back in correct me if I'm wrong? What 1799 01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:13.920 was it the what was the Civil War? Was it? 1800 01:47:14.079 --> 01:47:14.199 Right? 1801 01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:16.720 You had some that were brothers and sisters that were 1802 01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:19.840 just literally on the opposite sides going up against each other. 1803 01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:23.000 And I mean, I can't stay in politics and such 1804 01:47:23.079 --> 01:47:25.319 and all that, but I mean the same thing they 1805 01:47:25.640 --> 01:47:28.600 I went up in high school to the state part 1806 01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:31.600 where you know, they would have representatives whatever. They don't 1807 01:47:31.640 --> 01:47:34.600 even sit on the same side as each other. It's like, yeah, 1808 01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:38.359 wait a second, you know, you guys can't sit on 1809 01:47:38.439 --> 01:47:40.199 the same side of the room, et cetera. So I 1810 01:47:40.359 --> 01:47:45.039 just think it's one of those things that unfortunately, in 1811 01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:47.760 a perfect mind, in a perfect world, like the whole 1812 01:47:47.960 --> 01:47:51.680 consensus of you know, America and the melting pot. That's beautiful, 1813 01:47:52.199 --> 01:47:56.439 But in reality so hard to take people that have 1814 01:47:57.359 --> 01:47:59.399 different mindsets. I mean, it's no different than when I 1815 01:47:59.439 --> 01:48:01.720 go to a brewin game. I'm Bruins fan. I don't 1816 01:48:01.800 --> 01:48:04.279 act like this, but I mean I've seen Bruins fans 1817 01:48:04.359 --> 01:48:06.600 just literally almost get to the point of where I'm like, yo, 1818 01:48:06.760 --> 01:48:07.159 chill out. 1819 01:48:07.199 --> 01:48:11.359 Where they're like South America, they've had wars over soccer games. 1820 01:48:11.399 --> 01:48:14.600 Over soccer games, dude, it's like yo, chill out, man. Yes. 1821 01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:18.479 And then in Great Britain, you know, they have the 1822 01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:21.920 hooliganism where they're those guys are serious about their football 1823 01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:25.319 what they call soccer. So just I mean, I don't 1824 01:48:25.319 --> 01:48:28.039 get I remember going to high school games and making 1825 01:48:28.039 --> 01:48:30.359 a mistake of sitting in the long wrong bleachers. You know, 1826 01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:33.199 what are you doing over here? Over there? You know 1827 01:48:33.239 --> 01:48:35.560 you have the home side on those side, it's just 1828 01:48:36.119 --> 01:48:39.239 divide and conquered. That's that's the key to uh, to 1829 01:48:39.399 --> 01:48:41.920 anything like that. And that's that's kind of where we 1830 01:48:42.039 --> 01:48:43.880 are now as the nation. I think, and I'm I'm 1831 01:48:43.920 --> 01:48:46.520 as a political as you can get left wing right wing. 1832 01:48:46.680 --> 01:48:49.119 To me, it's just two wings on the same dirty bird. 1833 01:48:49.239 --> 01:48:49.800 I don't care. 1834 01:48:50.039 --> 01:48:54.119 And then yes, me too, bro. It's so true with you. 1835 01:48:54.279 --> 01:48:56.039 And actually I know you got to get going here. 1836 01:48:56.119 --> 01:48:58.079 But another thing that might blow your mind, and I 1837 01:48:58.399 --> 01:49:01.359 you know, suggest you look into, suggestion never go there. 1838 01:49:01.439 --> 01:49:03.960 But there is an island that I don't know if 1839 01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:06.840 it was in the fifties or sixties, where we decided 1840 01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:09.840 it was great to take chimpanzees, which are not supposed 1841 01:49:09.840 --> 01:49:12.800 to be on islands and can't swim, and we decided 1842 01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:16.159 to inject them with all kinds of messed up things 1843 01:49:16.199 --> 01:49:19.520 like hepatitis and all these diseases, and we put them 1844 01:49:19.600 --> 01:49:22.479 on this island. And still to this day they're there. 1845 01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:25.399 And I mean, how that's even legal, I don't know, 1846 01:49:26.159 --> 01:49:31.119 But come on, like, how can someone do that to 1847 01:49:31.359 --> 01:49:34.000 something that is so similar? I mean even if it 1848 01:49:34.079 --> 01:49:37.319 wasn't similar to an animal, Like, how can you do that? 1849 01:49:37.640 --> 01:49:40.159 Yet it is done. I mean I don't know if 1850 01:49:40.239 --> 01:49:43.199 they're still actively researching it, but it's still there. 1851 01:49:43.359 --> 01:49:48.119 So yeah, and that doesn't surprise me. I mean there's 1852 01:49:48.479 --> 01:49:50.760 and how much more stuff is there like that? I mean, 1853 01:49:50.840 --> 01:49:53.199 this is what you hear about, This is what lakes 1854 01:49:53.239 --> 01:49:57.680 out maybe only two or three people know about and 1855 01:49:58.039 --> 01:50:01.600 they ain't talking and said, you know, my dad out 1856 01:50:01.640 --> 01:50:03.960 there at the National Laboratory. There was all kinds. There 1857 01:50:04.279 --> 01:50:07.119 was stuff that he wouldn't talk about long and long 1858 01:50:07.159 --> 01:50:09.720 after he was retired. I mean he was in two 1859 01:50:09.840 --> 01:50:12.760 days away from his eighty second birthday when he passed 1860 01:50:12.800 --> 01:50:16.680 away in two thousand and three. But there was stuff 1861 01:50:16.720 --> 01:50:21.560 that he still just would not talk about. And I 1862 01:50:21.680 --> 01:50:23.159 get it. I mean, of course he was afraid he'd 1863 01:50:23.239 --> 01:50:26.520 lose his pinch and his insurance and all that. But again, 1864 01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:29.199 they drilled that into you. I mean Oakridge where I 1865 01:50:29.560 --> 01:50:32.000 grew up, or just outside there in Knox County, but 1866 01:50:32.439 --> 01:50:35.840 was in Oakridge a lot, and they'd have you know, 1867 01:50:35.960 --> 01:50:38.680 big billboards of you know, you don't know who's listening, 1868 01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:41.760 things like that, and it was just hammered into you that, 1869 01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:44.439 you know, there's just stuff you don't talk about. And 1870 01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:48.119 I heard stories when Oakridge was the Secret City that 1871 01:50:49.079 --> 01:50:52.159 there was a place announced known as Jackson Square but 1872 01:50:52.279 --> 01:50:54.600 back then was known as Townsite where they were having 1873 01:50:54.640 --> 01:50:58.479 a dance and there was a guy and a girl 1874 01:50:58.520 --> 01:51:00.159 that had met there and were dancing in the I 1875 01:51:00.319 --> 01:51:04.079 kind of talked a little bit about just whispered in 1876 01:51:04.159 --> 01:51:07.119 this girl's ear or what he was doing next Monday 1877 01:51:07.159 --> 01:51:08.600 when they called him, and when he came to work, 1878 01:51:08.640 --> 01:51:10.520 they called him on the carpet and said, you're not 1879 01:51:10.600 --> 01:51:13.479 supposed to be talking about that. So either she was 1880 01:51:13.760 --> 01:51:15.520 set up, set him up to be a rat, or 1881 01:51:15.560 --> 01:51:19.520 somebody overheard, or the loss have ears or something. And 1882 01:51:19.760 --> 01:51:23.199 it's that old saying that three can keep a secret 1883 01:51:23.239 --> 01:51:26.319 if two of them are dead. I believe that's true. 1884 01:51:27.359 --> 01:51:29.840 All right, And that's kind of ironical you because I 1885 01:51:29.880 --> 01:51:32.760 remember growing up. He doesn't do it anymore, but one 1886 01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:37.039 of my cousins was a he's forensic detective, and I 1887 01:51:37.199 --> 01:51:39.680 just remember him always telling me there's three sides to 1888 01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:40.199 a story. 1889 01:51:40.279 --> 01:51:41.239 I'm like, what do you mean, bro? 1890 01:51:41.399 --> 01:51:43.880 Because I was like fifteen. I'm like, there's myself and 1891 01:51:43.920 --> 01:51:47.119 the other person, so that's two. He's like, no, three, 1892 01:51:47.439 --> 01:51:50.079 And then he explained that your side, their side, and 1893 01:51:50.199 --> 01:51:59.520 then the truth. So yes, it's definitely a very accurate ads. 1894 01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:00.520 That you have to tread sometimes. As my dad used 1895 01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:02.840 to say, you can have your own opinions, but you 1896 01:52:02.920 --> 01:52:03.760 can't have your own. 1897 01:52:03.720 --> 01:52:07.880 Facts, see exactly. And that's so funny because I just 1898 01:52:07.920 --> 01:52:10.319 feel like so many people, when you try to present facts, 1899 01:52:10.359 --> 01:52:12.520 they're like, oh, there's just fairy tales. Go back to 1900 01:52:12.600 --> 01:52:15.680 your fairy tales, and it's just so funny too. I 1901 01:52:15.800 --> 01:52:20.319 feel like that individuals that think they're smart but actually 1902 01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:23.840 aren't smart. When you present things, they then call you 1903 01:52:24.119 --> 01:52:28.359 the idiots and they get so upset, and it's just like, well, 1904 01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:31.439 we're talking about facts here, But now I'm with you, 1905 01:52:31.600 --> 01:52:32.239 my friend. 1906 01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:35.840 And the people that will hear a theory, no matter 1907 01:52:35.920 --> 01:52:39.359 how half baked, that sounds sort of halfway scientific and 1908 01:52:39.439 --> 01:52:42.920 then accept that as gospel truth. I've covered the sailing 1909 01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:46.239 stones from race Track play in Death Valley. Well, the 1910 01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:50.600 theory is that a thin cod of water covers the 1911 01:52:50.680 --> 01:52:54.199 dry lake bed there, the wind blows moves those stones along, 1912 01:52:54.279 --> 01:52:55.960 and then it thaws out and that's how it laves 1913 01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:58.960 those trailsmen. But that's just a theory that's never been proven. 1914 01:53:00.199 --> 01:53:05.479 A video about Death Valley talked about that, and so 1915 01:53:05.560 --> 01:53:07.600 many people said, Oh, it's just ice and the wind. 1916 01:53:07.920 --> 01:53:10.560 There's no proof. It's a theory. I'd like to see 1917 01:53:10.600 --> 01:53:12.920 some proof. There's not any. But it's a good theory. 1918 01:53:13.079 --> 01:53:14.039 But that's all it is. 1919 01:53:15.199 --> 01:53:18.520 Right, No, that's great stuff, and I always feel like 1920 01:53:18.520 --> 01:53:21.680 people have issues with that. I mean, you know, kind 1921 01:53:21.760 --> 01:53:24.960 of as we're wrapping this up. That's like in Antarctica, 1922 01:53:24.960 --> 01:53:27.279 I believe it was or something like that that they believe. 1923 01:53:27.279 --> 01:53:30.960 They don't want to accept the supernatural that can't be possible. 1924 01:53:31.239 --> 01:53:35.600 Right, right, And then sometimes too, unfortunately, I feel like 1925 01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:38.000 people don't like to accept the science either, you know 1926 01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:39.760 what I mean. It's like a catch twenty two. 1927 01:53:39.960 --> 01:53:43.760 Yeah, because those that deny science and again you know 1928 01:53:43.840 --> 01:53:47.079 it's it's theories, but there's a scientific basis, yes, and 1929 01:53:47.239 --> 01:53:49.399 you can test it out. But even again here my 1930 01:53:49.479 --> 01:53:54.079 dad Ophridge, National Laboratory scientists, he would say sometimes there 1931 01:53:54.119 --> 01:53:58.960 were things that occurred under controlled laboratory conditions that they 1932 01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:04.960 couldn't replicate, an anomalous event that irreproducible result that they 1933 01:54:05.079 --> 01:54:08.119 just could not explain, and they again there was no 1934 01:54:08.199 --> 01:54:11.199 explanation for it. But he said, sometimes things just knew 1935 01:54:11.239 --> 01:54:13.359 what they want to do, regardless of what there's what 1936 01:54:13.600 --> 01:54:14.760 science as they're supposed to do. 1937 01:54:15.039 --> 01:54:18.800 Yes, exactly. And you know, kind of a great example 1938 01:54:18.880 --> 01:54:20.600 too is like I said, I you know, we got 1939 01:54:20.720 --> 01:54:23.840 to let you go. But in Antarctica there looks to 1940 01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:25.720 be like what some people want to say, was a 1941 01:54:25.800 --> 01:54:28.760 flying saucer that crashed? Okay, could it be yes, it 1942 01:54:28.880 --> 01:54:31.920 very well could be, But then other people have very 1943 01:54:32.039 --> 01:54:36.239 valid points of how if a piece of ice which 1944 01:54:36.399 --> 01:54:39.439 does fall from one of the glaciers up there, it 1945 01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:42.720 would fall a pretty large distance then would start rolling 1946 01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:46.439 from the impact, and very much so could also be that. 1947 01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:50.560 So it could be either, And until someone can actually 1948 01:54:50.640 --> 01:54:53.720 go there to show that, then you're not We're not 1949 01:54:53.760 --> 01:54:55.760 going to know. But then the people that love the 1950 01:54:55.800 --> 01:54:58.880 supernatural are like, no, there's no way that happened. But yeah, 1951 01:54:59.039 --> 01:55:02.479 sure nature doesn't either reason for that to happen it. 1952 01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:04.840 Nature doesn't need a reason for a leave to go 1953 01:55:05.079 --> 01:55:08.279 from green to red before it falls and no longer exists. 1954 01:55:08.399 --> 01:55:09.680 We want to make it a reason. 1955 01:55:09.800 --> 01:55:12.520 You know, it's interesting. It's like I used to hear 1956 01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:16.319 in school that a doctor here's a hoof mats, he 1957 01:55:16.399 --> 01:55:19.159 things horse, but at first your medical student thinks zebra. 1958 01:55:19.479 --> 01:55:21.640 Sometimes there are certain people that just want to look 1959 01:55:21.720 --> 01:55:25.800 for the most obscure, strangest thing. But usually, like Sherlock 1960 01:55:25.840 --> 01:55:28.840 Holmes said, you know, it's it's the most common. Is 1961 01:55:29.359 --> 01:55:35.600 probably your answer. Exactly. You eliminated everything else, no matter 1962 01:55:35.760 --> 01:55:39.720 how impossible or improbable. What's left is the truth. 1963 01:55:40.279 --> 01:55:43.000 Brilliant man, and I totally agree with all that too. 1964 01:55:43.199 --> 01:55:44.760 You know, we just got to start with the logical 1965 01:55:44.800 --> 01:55:47.479 stuff first, man, and then we can proceed to some 1966 01:55:47.600 --> 01:55:49.479 of the ideological stuff. Yeah for sure. 1967 01:55:50.159 --> 01:55:52.039 Well we're going to have to close this off here 1968 01:55:52.119 --> 01:55:54.479 tonight's star Fucks, But I want to thank you once 1969 01:55:54.560 --> 01:55:57.520 again for joining me here on everything out there on 1970 01:55:57.600 --> 01:56:00.359 the Clyde LUs Ground zero Radio network. Tell the people 1971 01:56:00.479 --> 01:56:01.359 where they can find you. 1972 01:56:02.119 --> 01:56:05.079 Yeah, definitely my friend, and I look forward to seeing 1973 01:56:05.159 --> 01:56:06.920 you by weekly. I talk to you all the time 1974 01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:09.199 too as well. So long story short is, just go 1975 01:56:09.319 --> 01:56:14.039 on YouTube and it's all under lowercase words star Fucks 1976 01:56:14.159 --> 01:56:18.000 Underscore Radio, and you will be brought to my page. 1977 01:56:18.039 --> 01:56:20.239 You can't miss it. And I do have playlists set 1978 01:56:20.279 --> 01:56:22.319 up so if you have favorite hosts that are on there, 1979 01:56:22.399 --> 01:56:24.840 such as Steve, then you can just click on all those. 1980 01:56:25.840 --> 01:56:27.520 Yeah, and I'll put a link to that in the 1981 01:56:27.560 --> 01:56:30.800 show notes. And as he stated there, I'm going to 1982 01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:33.399 start being on his show bi weekly on. 1983 01:56:35.560 --> 01:56:36.239 Wednesday nights. 1984 01:56:36.600 --> 01:56:38.840 Wednesday nights, we're doing it live, right. 1985 01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:42.239 Actually, no, we're just gonna do the recording and get 1986 01:56:42.279 --> 01:56:44.359 it out there. It'll be coming out the following day. 1987 01:56:44.479 --> 01:56:48.000 So yeah, even better. All right, brother, well again, thank 1988 01:56:48.079 --> 01:56:50.119 you for being here. I'm going to get on out 1989 01:56:50.159 --> 01:56:53.640 of here on behalf of star Fucks and myself. We'll 1990 01:56:53.680 --> 01:56:56.880 see you further on down the trail. 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