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Speaker 11: Hello, Steve? It's ironic how last time you said with
Speaker 11: that epic introduction, you know, you felt like you weren't
Speaker 11: going to be able to bring it up, but you
Speaker 11: still did well. I mean, you just cost me a
Speaker 11: pretty legendary introduction right there too, man, So do you
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Speaker 1: Fan's brother? But yeah, I had a good time over there,
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Speaker 11: No, so was I my friend, and I actually was
Speaker 11: recently some other people that have been, you know, just
Speaker 11: trying to filter through my thread and see, you know,
Speaker 11: what they can do to help, you know, get me
Speaker 11: more views. They actually told me a few couple things
Speaker 11: that were beneficial, just something as simple as instead of
Speaker 11: putting Midnight Lacanthropy episode so and so I now just
Speaker 11: start it with like dog Man or you know, Bigfoot
Speaker 11: versus dog Man, and then I just keep the thumbnail
Speaker 11: with the Midnight Lacanthropy and then the actual episode number,
Speaker 11: because I was reading through YouTube lately and having some
Speaker 11: people update me, and I think it recognizes I don't
Speaker 11: know if he said four to five words. Maybe, so
Speaker 11: within those first couple of words, you really want what
Speaker 11: it is that you want people to be searching about.
Speaker 11: So hopefully that helps too.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, No, the algorithm is a strange thing. It
Speaker 1: can make you break it and constantly updating it, reprogramming it.
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Speaker 1: And use of hashtags helps too, But you don't want
Speaker 1: to go overboard because then it seems to send it
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Speaker 11: It, beautifully stated my friends. So ten night, you and
Speaker 11: I have some pretty interesting stuff like always to speak
Speaker 11: about to the audience. Yes, I try to keep the
Speaker 11: majority of my dog stuff on STARFUCKX Radio and Midnilacanthrey.
Speaker 11: I am obviously not opposed to answering that on anybody
Speaker 11: else's podcast or speaking about it. I just have such
Speaker 11: a plethora of pretty cool and really cool stuff that
Speaker 11: has been stored in the file cabinets of my brain
Speaker 11: that I need to clear the cash out because I
Speaker 11: only actively look through historical aspects with the sinocephala or
Speaker 11: references of potential doug headed people throughout history. So I've
Speaker 11: been diving into cultures, cultures and cultures all across the
Speaker 11: world beautiful stuff. But as stated, I just have so
Speaker 11: much in my brain in general because I love to learn,
Speaker 11: so whether it's dinosaurs, extinct animals, the evolution that's occurring
Speaker 11: with primates right now, it's really great stuff. So I
Speaker 11: first wanted to potentially hear your thoughts on the Jabbah
Speaker 11: fo fi because I did always promise myself that if
Speaker 11: I got an opportunity for just a few to speak
Speaker 11: on something outside of the dog man. But again, has
Speaker 11: science and stuff suggesting this could potentially exist, but also
Speaker 11: science suggesting it can't, and I just wanted to maybe
Speaker 11: touch base on that for a few.
Speaker 1: Okay, that big right now? What was the creature again?
Speaker 11: That jabbah fofi? Have you heard of that?
Speaker 1: No, you caught me with my pants down? I don't
Speaker 1: think I've even heard of that one. Me and the
Speaker 1: listeners what it is, and then I'll see if I
Speaker 1: can form a yes.
Speaker 11: All right, my friends. So again, though it does kind
Speaker 11: of fall into what we're both covering and though with
Speaker 11: people missing and such, except it's more an indigenous areas
Speaker 11: where modern day cultures, as we would say, considering that
Speaker 11: obviously these cultures are just as advanced in their own ways,
Speaker 11: but cultures that are you know, in the jungles or
Speaker 11: in the deep forests, so you know, unless they're reporting
Speaker 11: it to their other members of their tribe that then
Speaker 11: get a chance to communicate with somebody such as yourself.
Speaker 11: From us of it's not really documented, but when people
Speaker 11: do go over there and actually sit down with them.
Speaker 11: I believe the last really solid effort was oh Geez,
Speaker 11: monster Quest what was that in two thousand and four
Speaker 11: or something like that, and they had some really great
Speaker 11: minds go over there and talk to the indigenous cultures.
Speaker 11: And before I really dive into some science against it
Speaker 11: and for it, I will give you the premises of
Speaker 11: what's occurring these indigenous cultures. Whether it's in the Amazon.
Speaker 11: They've been reported in Vietnam and I don't know if
Speaker 11: it's the same version, but even people here in America
Speaker 11: in some spots have reported seeing pretty large spiders. So
Speaker 11: this jaba fofi apparently now is becoming harder and harder
Speaker 11: to find because of a the fact that these indigenous
Speaker 11: cultures purposely tried to dispose of them, but also the
Speaker 11: encroachment on the jungle and such. But what they would
Speaker 11: do is they would put large nests between one tree
Speaker 11: and the other on the ground, so the webbing would
Speaker 11: be through there, and these indigenous cultures would see things
Speaker 11: like large cats in there, birds, antelope and such. And
Speaker 11: there have been reports of even indigenous cultures being caught themselves.
Speaker 11: And what these spiders would do is then come out
Speaker 11: and they would inject their venom inside of the victim.
Speaker 11: And they were reported to be geez around the size
Speaker 11: of a coconut crab, maybe a little bit bigger. And
Speaker 11: when they were younger though, they are reported to be
Speaker 11: pretty bright in color. I believe it's purple. And they
Speaker 11: come out of these little eggs that are yellow that
Speaker 11: look like almost grains are rice. And there has been
Speaker 11: a ton of Westerners that have gone down there and
Speaker 11: had issues. One gentleman was a I want to say,
Speaker 11: a wanna be explorer slash cryptu zoologist. He was some
Speaker 11: rich stude from Europe. So him and his wife, you know,
Speaker 11: I thought they could just go down here and whatever,
Speaker 11: blow some money, because like I said, they thought they
Speaker 11: or actually cryptu zoologists, which they weren't. But either way,
Speaker 11: as they were driving down one of these remote trails
Speaker 11: in the jungle, this isn't like the twenties or forties,
Speaker 11: I believe they ended up seeing what he and her
Speaker 11: said looked to be a large monkey kind of crawling
Speaker 11: across the road. But then they realized it was not
Speaker 11: a monkey because it reared up and they saw enormous
Speaker 11: fangs as it was rearing up towards their vehicle, showing
Speaker 11: no fear whatsoever. And as he turned the lights on
Speaker 11: and beaped a little bit and started backing up, the
Speaker 11: spider began coming towards them until like deciding to run
Speaker 11: back off into the jungle. And when Monster Quests went
Speaker 11: down there and was speaking to all these indigenous cultures, dude,
Speaker 11: they make all their huts legitimately spider proof for some
Speaker 11: sort of larger rackned Okay, and that is very interesting
Speaker 11: because obviously something they're dealing with is that real to them,
Speaker 11: and it is believed to steal pets, dotes, smaller livestock, children,
Speaker 11: and even men and women. So that's just a little
Speaker 11: bit before we dive in more. Man.
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm impressed.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I didn't know the scientific name there that you called
Speaker 1: the virus or whatever designation that was, but I have
Speaker 1: heard of it, and in fact, now I have a
Speaker 1: somewhat of a rachnophobia. I don't really care for spiders.
Speaker 1: I can coexist with them as long as they stay
Speaker 1: up in the corner and catch gnats and flies and
Speaker 1: things like that. If they get on me, or if
Speaker 1: I find them in my bed, then it's I'll show
Speaker 1: you the door. At best, at words to get a
Speaker 1: funeral at sea, getting flushed down the toilet. But I
Speaker 1: just I don't know, don't don't like creepy crawley. So
Speaker 1: growing up, a friend of mine had a pet spider
Speaker 1: I call tarantula. He named it Jerry, after Jerry Garcia,
Speaker 1: the Grateful Dead, And he finally conned me into holding
Speaker 1: it one time, and I had an in my hand
Speaker 1: and the thing it starts slowly crawling out my arm,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Johnny, you need to get this thing
Speaker 1: off me right now, because if it gets any closer
Speaker 1: to my face or my hair, I'm gonna sling it
Speaker 1: across the room. I don't care what you're prayed for.
Speaker 11: It.
Speaker 1: Don't mean to be hating on spiders. But when I
Speaker 1: lived up in the Upper East Tennessee, I lived in
Speaker 1: the northern tip up there, a little place called Mountain City.
Speaker 1: You go one way, you're in Boone, North Carolina, not
Speaker 1: far from the Brown Mountain Lights and all that. The
Speaker 1: other direction, you could be in Bristol, which is Tennessee
Speaker 1: and Virginia there in the dry cities. Or you go
Speaker 1: down to Johnson City and was a little bit further.
Speaker 1: The other way, you're in Abingdon, Virginia, home with a
Speaker 1: very haunted Martha Washington End and also haunted Barterer Theater,
Speaker 1: which is across the street. Anyway, I lived up there
Speaker 1: in Mountain City for about a year and it's a
Speaker 1: strange place. Anyway, have you ever heard of the Steve
Speaker 1: Earl song Copperhead Road?
Speaker 11: I do not believe I have.
Speaker 1: My friend, well, let's check that out sometime. And it's
Speaker 1: kind of an update on the old thunder Road, like
Speaker 1: the Revenuers and the moonshiners and stuff. But then at
Speaker 1: the end the updates at the pot growers. Anyway, Copperhead
Speaker 1: Road is a real road in Johnson County up there,
Speaker 1: and that's where the song was, what the song was
Speaker 1: written about. They actually had to change the name of
Speaker 1: the road because people kept stealing the sign, the Copperhead
Speaker 1: Road sign. But I digress. But anyway, there's a place
Speaker 1: up there called Roan Mountain. I've been up there. There
Speaker 1: was a BnB that I used to like to go
Speaker 1: up to there called the Roan Mountain Inn. And there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of legends and folklore up there in that area.
Speaker 1: There's the Jingling Hole, which is place during the Civil
Speaker 1: War where the apparently both sides, the North and the South,
Speaker 1: would if they captured somebody to interrogate them, they would
Speaker 1: make them hold on to a steel pole that had
Speaker 1: been h laid across this open pit. It was deep.
Speaker 1: Some people claim it doesn't have a bottom, orf it
Speaker 1: does its way down there, and people that were hanging
Speaker 1: from this would it would kick and on their spurs.
Speaker 1: A lot of these were on horseback. You'd hear their
Speaker 1: spurs jingling, and that's what they called it, the jingling.
Speaker 1: Oh well, some of them were unfortunate. They fell down
Speaker 1: in there, and that was the last trip on that excursion,
Speaker 1: and to this day's supposal, you can still hear stuff
Speaker 1: coming out of there. There's a place called Trade where
Speaker 1: they have trade days where the natives used to trade
Speaker 1: with the white folks. What else is up there. Fiddler's Rock,
Speaker 1: which is up on Rohan Mountain, a little place there
Speaker 1: there was a guy that would come out and play
Speaker 1: the fiddle and charm rattlesnakes that live on the mountain. Well,
Speaker 1: one day they found him deceased up there. He was
Speaker 1: covered in snake bites. Apparently the snakes got tired of
Speaker 1: being charmed. But to this day they say, on a
Speaker 1: certain times you can still hear him. Upon Roan Mountain
Speaker 1: you can hear a fiddle play, and it's supposedly his spirit.
Speaker 1: Now said all this to tell you that the guy
Speaker 1: that I knew that was from that area and lived
Speaker 1: up there, told me. He said, Steve, there's a place
Speaker 1: up on Rome Mountain I can take you to. He said,
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to get to. It says a
Speaker 1: sort of a hidden cave. And he said, I kid you,
Speaker 1: not inside this cave. There's a spider that lives there
Speaker 1: that's as big as a house cat. He said, no,
Speaker 1: I don't mean the whole spider. He said, I mean
Speaker 1: the body of the spider. Well, I can't remember what
Speaker 1: it's called. It's as big as a cat. Then you've
Speaker 1: got all the legs and stuff. He said. There's birds
Speaker 1: and squirrels and small game there that are entombed that
Speaker 1: are wrapped up, you know, where the spider's been feeding
Speaker 1: on him and stuff. And for a brief second, I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, I would like to see that, and then
Speaker 1: I thought, nope, nope, nope, because he said when you
Speaker 1: go in, there's all these webs and stuff and you
Speaker 1: got to kind of fight your way in with a
Speaker 1: walking cane or start walking stick. And I thought, no,
Speaker 1: that's the lastly, because you know spider, that big venom.
Speaker 1: You know, it wouldn't take much to I'd be a
Speaker 1: cocooned in there. So there you go. I knew what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, I bet, and you probably never heard
Speaker 1: that legend from Upper East Tennessee. But I know a
Speaker 1: guy that can take you to the cave.
Speaker 11: Wow. That's definitely some pretty gnarly stuff right there, for sure.
Speaker 11: And as you're talking about that, all I can think
Speaker 11: about is, yeah, because I'm a nerd, is in the
Speaker 11: lower of the rings. And also, Harry Potter, those two
Speaker 11: garganguous spiders that are up in there, they are for
Speaker 11: sure something out of nightmare fuel. But I did not
Speaker 11: know you had some iraq in aphobia. So on a
Speaker 11: funny note, just a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, just as I thought of, especially one that
Speaker 1: big holy cara.
Speaker 11: So I don't know if you'll find this funny then,
Speaker 11: but I do find this super cool. Is a lot
Speaker 11: of people don't realize that jumping spiders, for example, it's
Speaker 11: not been very well documented to see if tarantulors and
Speaker 11: other species, But keep in mind, tarantulers are considered old
Speaker 11: age spiders, if you know what that means, and then
Speaker 11: new age spiders are considered like the jumping spider, the
Speaker 11: wolf spider, et cetera, and jumping spiders are actually known
Speaker 11: and well documented to have bonds with their owners. They
Speaker 11: recognize you and stuff. And I've always found jumping spiders
Speaker 11: to be super cool with all their eyes and their
Speaker 11: little hands and such. So that's just some pretty interesting
Speaker 11: stuff right there. And then, as you mentioned again, back
Speaker 11: to those caves that we don't know too much about,
Speaker 11: so that really honestly doesn't surprise me that much because
Speaker 11: we don't know anything really about the caves. And I
Speaker 11: got some more messed up stuff for you about this.
Speaker 11: If you actually think of how big this spider is
Speaker 11: reported to be, well before I die into the reasonings
Speaker 11: really why that it might be pretty hard for a
Speaker 11: spider to grow this big, but also something else it
Speaker 11: could be, but doesn't make sense that it would be.
Speaker 11: I got an interesting account again from that area where
Speaker 11: at this time this gentleman actually was a real person
Speaker 11: that had expertise on exploring and such, and he went
Speaker 11: out in the jungle with a group of missionaries and stuff,
Speaker 11: just to make sure that, you know, he wasn't going
Speaker 11: to be ambushed by any sort of nonsense that could
Speaker 11: be occurring. And ooh, guess what they ran into supposed
Speaker 11: to like the jaba ffy, And apparently a few of
Speaker 11: the soldiers or mercenaries got caught up in the web
Speaker 11: and immediately well, just like we had described before as
Speaker 11: to what had happened to others, well that same stuff
Speaker 11: happened to these guys, and apparently they were disposed of quickly,
Speaker 11: even though they tried to struggle, and there was only
Speaker 11: a few left, and they started shooting at them, and
Speaker 11: they dropped I guess, I believe one or two of them,
Speaker 11: but then the spiders lunched at them, pulled away his
Speaker 11: two remaining missionaries or companions whatever you'd like to use
Speaker 11: for terminology, And then afterwards he was bit but then somehow,
Speaker 11: which doesn't seem very far fetched. I mean, adrenaline does,
Speaker 11: you know, very interesting things. And I've spoken about that before,
Speaker 11: how people have had wounds that were mortal and as
Speaker 11: soon as there are blood pressure and adrenaline drop that
Speaker 11: just bled out. But all of a sudden they're on
Speaker 11: the warfield, sitting here picking up people, lighting people up,
Speaker 11: and it's like, dude, what is this guy the real terminator?
Speaker 11: You know? But then, like I said, your blood pressure
Speaker 11: drops and you sprang out everywhere. So this dude makes
Speaker 11: it back to the camp. Well, immediately the indigenous people,
Speaker 11: by the swelling on him and the way he looks
Speaker 11: and the poison, they noticed the Jabba fofi and he's
Speaker 11: struggling to try to explain to them what's happened to him,
Speaker 11: But his tongue swelled up and he ended up like
Speaker 11: you know, being unalived. You have that account too, And
Speaker 11: then you have another account in Vietnam of American soldiers
Speaker 11: that came across a group of things that sound to
Speaker 11: be very similar to the jibba ofi or a large spider,
Speaker 11: and they came at them and no one was unlive,
Speaker 11: but the spiders were. They lit them all up. So
Speaker 11: now let's, you know, real quick go into the science aspect,
Speaker 11: I mean, realistically with how spiders are building. Such look
Speaker 11: at a jumping spider, look at its dexterous aspects and
Speaker 11: how quickly it moves, but also look how small it is.
Speaker 11: Now look at a tarantula. Yeah, they can you know,
Speaker 11: boogie a little bit if they need to, but they're
Speaker 11: not the most fast and explosive spiders. Science has been
Speaker 11: running before, though, but it really depends on the oxygen level,
Speaker 11: and apparently with the oxygen that's on modern day Earth,
Speaker 11: it's not considered enough to allow these iraqnas to grow
Speaker 11: to their supersizes that they used to in prehistoric times. Again, though,
Speaker 11: like I said, science can be wrong, so it's not
Speaker 11: really that far fetched to think a guiant spider could exist.
Speaker 11: But also, like I said, there is science supporting how
Speaker 11: that's not possible. And before I dive into potentially some
Speaker 11: other stuff that people said they were and something that
Speaker 11: relates to again somebody missing, I would like to hear
Speaker 11: your opinions on that.
Speaker 1: I don't know because I've watched documentaries about the Amazon
Speaker 1: and some of the stuff they find down there. I
Speaker 1: saw this one thing where they went out in the
Speaker 1: rainforest and they found this huge, huge tree canopy, you know,
Speaker 1: they can't even see the sky, and they set up
Speaker 1: some smoke bombs and stuff and there they got out
Speaker 1: of the area, and then all these insects and things
Speaker 1: started following out of the tree. I think they've done
Speaker 1: this in some movie or something that I saw too,
Speaker 1: but I did see it in a documentary and they
Speaker 1: were in there and they were finding all these weird things,
Speaker 1: hundreds of species just I think every year maybe thousands
Speaker 1: that they find on there. So I don't think it's
Speaker 1: beyond the realm of possibility that there's just a whole
Speaker 1: myriad of insects out there, including spiders that we have
Speaker 1: no knowledge of yet, and especially big one like that. Then,
Speaker 1: you know, what you were talking about there kind of
Speaker 1: reminded me of some of the cases I've covered, the
Speaker 1: missing people cases. And if you overlay a map of
Speaker 1: like these clusters of missing people, it also lines up
Speaker 1: with the cave systems. So that's another thing to add
Speaker 1: to the launder list of stuff that could be taking people,
Speaker 1: is these giant spiders in caves, and who knows, maybe
Speaker 1: they've they've developed you know, something like a bird of
Speaker 1: canary or a miner bird or something where they can talk.
Speaker 1: Because people they've talked about hearing voices coming from a cave,
Speaker 1: or the sound of a baby crying, or even people
Speaker 1: calling their name, people that were that's kind of getting
Speaker 1: into the supernatural level because usually somebody that was deceased
Speaker 1: or somebody that was at least one thousand miles away.
Speaker 1: And I covered one case where the guy heard his
Speaker 1: own voice calling to him from a cable, like, hey,
Speaker 1: come on in here. So maybe it's some kind of
Speaker 1: highly developed spider, maybe an alien hybrid spider that has
Speaker 1: these wild talents. I mean, if you did go into
Speaker 1: the cable looking for a voice, maybe you wouldn't see
Speaker 1: the spider hiding behind a rock or something. The next
Speaker 1: thing you know, you're bit and then being spun into
Speaker 1: a cocoon. True nightmare fuel.
Speaker 12: Indeed, Yeah, you want to talk about some nightmare of fuel.
Speaker 12: There's actually a movie called Sting on Hulu that actually
Speaker 12: involves that, where a long story short is this little girl,
Speaker 12: I mean, she's a teenager or whatever, gets this spy
Speaker 12: that falls.
Speaker 11: Down in a little meteorite into her apartment complex, and
Speaker 11: I'm not going to spoil it for everybody. But the
Speaker 11: spider is a mimic, so yeah, whistles to her when
Speaker 11: it's hungry and such, and learns to sound like a
Speaker 11: cat in distress to make some lady climb down and
Speaker 11: try to think it's her cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So pretty gnarly stuff right there, man, And I wanted
Speaker 11: to touch base on some of the stuff they do
Speaker 11: think potentially that this could be some scientists have thought
Speaker 11: because in the areas there are coconut crabs, and dude
Speaker 11: to anybody out there that has not seen a coconut crab,
Speaker 11: all right, and they are straight up gnarly, savage zombie machines,
Speaker 11: meaning they come out they're not very fast. Okay, So
Speaker 11: that here's the big problem. These people claim these are
Speaker 11: spiders and they're fast. Coconut crabs not really that fast.
Speaker 11: But the problem is they just keep coming at you
Speaker 11: and very large numbers, and there's not much you can
Speaker 11: do to get rid of them. I mean they climb trees. Yes,
Speaker 11: you're gonna be, like you said, destroyed. So there actually
Speaker 11: is a very interesting aspect of what happened with Amelia
Speaker 11: Earhart and some of the areas where you know, they
Speaker 11: believe that she went down and if she did escape
Speaker 11: the crash, where she would have went. And recently they
Speaker 11: found some stuff suggesting she was on this island that
Speaker 11: they believe she was consumed by coconut crabs, and that
Speaker 11: would explain why you've never found anything else of her.
Speaker 11: But again, the coconut crabs are slow so because they
Speaker 11: have that big shell. And that's what I was trying
Speaker 11: to explain to people about. Well, if a giant spider,
Speaker 11: it's got an ectoskeleton, and people are, wait, what's that, Well,
Speaker 11: it's like their shield for their body. But the problem
Speaker 11: is that's why spider. I believe every species does it.
Speaker 11: I may be incorrect, but they shed their skin as
Speaker 11: they grow. And the reason they're doing that is, well
Speaker 11: they need to expand their body, okay, and really make
Speaker 11: sure that they're growing properly. But they get to a
Speaker 11: point where they don't grow really any bigger. And I
Speaker 11: mean they could, I guess, but again, there's that oxigen.
Speaker 11: It's not like it's a snake that if you just
Speaker 11: keep feeding it food, you know, consistently, over and over again,
Speaker 11: well that thing's going to keep growing. And well, yeah,
Speaker 11: sure you might get it to grow to a very
Speaker 11: abnormal length. But that's just because you're giving it calories
Speaker 11: and such. But when it comes to an iraknid, it's
Speaker 11: a lot different because it's got to carry that weight
Speaker 11: on its body. So it's just some interesting stuff, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, and strange. As you mentioned that. I was
Speaker 1: just raising some stuff today about Amelia Earhart synchronicity there,
Speaker 1: and they were talking about how they think they may
Speaker 1: have found the plane, but it's mostly turned a coral
Speaker 1: now and they if they tried to move it out
Speaker 1: of there, it would just totally obliterate it. But that's
Speaker 1: a frightened thought that she, you know, all that way,
Speaker 1: and then got ditched on that island, survived and was
Speaker 1: then devoured by coconut crabs. And those things are frightening.
Speaker 1: I googled them here while we were talking, and that'd
Speaker 1: be a big note for me. I don't have anything
Speaker 1: to do with them, That's what I was saying.
Speaker 11: That are little tanks, man. I mean, obviously you and
Speaker 11: I could properly dispose of them, but realistically, you and
Speaker 11: I with baseball bats, dude, if five, six or seven
Speaker 11: of those were coming at us, that'd be a problem.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, you know, you just you'd be overrun by them,
Speaker 1: and just there's the terror aspect and the fighter flight thing.
Speaker 1: I'd try to I'd try flight first, and then I
Speaker 1: can't imagine. There's a video out there. I think it's
Speaker 1: on on TikTok or Facebook shorts or YouTube shorts one
Speaker 1: of those. It's a crab somewhere. I think it's in Australia.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good sized crab. I'm not sure what kind
Speaker 1: of crab it is. It's upon land and it's got
Speaker 1: a steak knife and the guys after it, and it
Speaker 1: looks like the crab is brandishing the knife at him, like,
Speaker 1: you know, get back, I'll cut you. So who's to say.
Speaker 1: I mean, they might be more sentient than we've been
Speaker 1: led to believe. This kind of do their own thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, a bunch of anything. I think it could
Speaker 1: do yim, especially something like that. It'd be like trying
Speaker 1: to fight thousands of lobsters or something. They could just
Speaker 1: tear you apart.
Speaker 11: That's what I'm saying. And that's just very interesting, and
Speaker 11: it's one of those things. No matter what I talk
Speaker 11: about in general, I always like things with backs and
Speaker 11: evidence and just think supporting that. So yes, theory hypothesis
Speaker 11: is around the fact that, oh well, no one's definitively proven.
Speaker 11: You know, these large spiders, but then you have these
Speaker 11: cultures going way out of their way to make sure
Speaker 11: the houses are spiderproof, people missing in the jungles and such,
Speaker 11: which again same thing with here. You know, there's numerous
Speaker 11: reasons why that's occurring, But there are spiders in history
Speaker 11: that were massive. I mean, I'm a huge advocate. Almost
Speaker 11: everybody you see on the Midnight Society suggestion on my
Speaker 11: list are people such as yourself that I've got a
Speaker 11: chance to sit down with. But there are some brilliant
Speaker 11: minds on there that I would love to be able
Speaker 11: to sit down with someday and really speak to, like
Speaker 11: Forrest Gallanti, the Wild Times podcast, Extinct Zoo highly compelling
Speaker 11: North O two. Either way, though, these people are brilliant
Speaker 11: and they've taught me so much. But I believe it's
Speaker 11: Extinct Zoo that does an episode about the Agiina rachnids
Speaker 11: that existed pre dinosaur times and holy Christs, ties what
Speaker 11: the heck? But again, though the atmosphere was so much
Speaker 11: different that allowed that. Though I mean, there weren't predators
Speaker 11: and such. It's just like with that giant pterodactyl. Basically
Speaker 11: more or less that in the area it evolved, Well,
Speaker 11: the dinosaurs became smaller because they didn't have as much food,
Speaker 11: but these birds had no competition now or these pterosaurs
Speaker 11: and this one became gargantuous. So it just boils down
Speaker 11: to the niche of something is filled in nature. And
Speaker 11: I mean, the proof is there that gino athletes and
Speaker 11: things did exist, whether or not they still can as
Speaker 11: another story or another opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I read something the other day talking about how
Speaker 1: chickens are related to the dinosaurs. And supposedly somewhere I
Speaker 1: think it's in the Middle East or maybe I don't
Speaker 1: remember exactly, might have been Russia, but they found a
Speaker 1: dinosaur skeleton and a bunch of fossilized feathers there with it,
Speaker 1: and they were kind of congesturing that not all the
Speaker 1: dinosaurs had the reptilian skin and the scales. Some of
Speaker 1: them have feathers. So can you imagine something on the
Speaker 1: size of a t rex but it's a chicken, and
Speaker 1: you know they got that the three toes and the
Speaker 1: claw in the back, you know, so I can see
Speaker 1: the correlation between chickens and sometimes but that's a frightening
Speaker 1: thought of me a giant, prehistoric chicken that wants to
Speaker 1: tear you apart. And chickens are brutal. I grew up
Speaker 1: My parents had chickens, and they don't kill and eat
Speaker 1: anything if they got I saw one swallow a whole
Speaker 1: frog once, and they'll kill a snake or anything like that.
Speaker 1: So you can imagine, you know, one as tall as
Speaker 1: your house, what kind of damage you could do. There's
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff out there, and they jogged my
Speaker 1: memory when we were talking about that. Maybe spiders were
Speaker 1: mimics and stuff. There was a guy that I went
Speaker 1: to high school. I won't won't give his name here
Speaker 1: because he's still around. In fact, he's a minister of
Speaker 1: a church and things either north or out Dakota now.
Speaker 1: But I went to high school together and briefly to college.
Speaker 1: He was at the University of Tennessee for a while. Well.
Speaker 1: He told me a story one time about he was
Speaker 1: in the basement of a church. He was kind of
Speaker 1: a religious zealot, that's the kindest way to say it,
Speaker 1: and he volunteered at this church to clean it like
Speaker 1: Saturday night before Sunday morning service and Thursday after the
Speaker 1: Wednesday night services and sf like that. Well, he was
Speaker 1: down in the basement one time and in the storage
Speaker 1: room I think it was where the furnace. There's something
Speaker 1: was in there. There's a dark room. But he said
Speaker 1: that he encountered a big black spider in there. He
Speaker 1: said it looked like the size of a tarantula, but
Speaker 1: it was shiny black. It wasn't for he wasn't Harry,
Speaker 1: and he said the thing was demonic, and then it
Speaker 1: started talking to him. Now, this guy, like I said,
Speaker 1: he was a kook, and I heard some wild stories
Speaker 1: out of him. But he claimed that he took a
Speaker 1: shovel or things like a snowshovel or something, and he
Speaker 1: killed this thing and he said it crunched and this
Speaker 1: goo just shot everywhere. But again from his religious and
Speaker 1: theosophical aspect, it was it had to be demonic because
Speaker 1: it was this giant, black, weird, shiny spider that lived
Speaker 1: in the basement of a church that he dispatched to
Speaker 1: the next life. But I just I remember that. And
Speaker 1: he claimed that the thing was talking to him. He
Speaker 1: said it wasn't very loud, but it was talking to him.
Speaker 1: Now I have heard you know that there's certain bugs
Speaker 1: and things that can can make a noise that mimics talking,
Speaker 1: you know, crickets chirp and and things squeak and then
Speaker 1: make these weird things. And you got Katie Did's and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I don't know about anything that
Speaker 1: if it has a voice, there's there's something neither supernatural
Speaker 1: or something we're not aware of or who knows. Maybe
Speaker 1: my friend was right and it was demonic. What better
Speaker 1: place for a demon spider to hide than in a dark,
Speaker 1: burnast room of a church.
Speaker 11: Yeah, some straight up gnarly stuff for sure. And before
Speaker 11: I talked about right right, and before I blow your
Speaker 11: mind a little bit more with the whole dinosaur thing.
Speaker 11: I mean, the bottom of mine is spiders and a
Speaker 11: rachnids don't have voice boxes. That's not to say that,
Speaker 11: you know, by stroking a spiderweb or something, they couldn't
Speaker 11: make some sort of hum you know that might sound
Speaker 11: like a sound that maybe some sort of insect they
Speaker 11: prey on, you know, might draw them in. That's not
Speaker 11: very far fetched a thing. But yeah, I don't have
Speaker 11: a local barrage.
Speaker 1: In school, we made a thing. You know, it would
Speaker 1: kind of I guess mimic a voice box. But we
Speaker 1: took cardboards, either a cigar box or shoe box and
Speaker 1: put a string through a hole, you know, tiedy knot,
Speaker 1: pulled it out, and then put the pine rosin on
Speaker 1: that string like violin bow rosin, and you could run
Speaker 1: your fingers pull that taut and then run your fingers
Speaker 1: up and down it and it was almost like bowling
Speaker 1: a violin, but you get some of the most unearthly
Speaker 1: squeals and groans and creeks and stuff out of it,
Speaker 1: and it's just again, it's just some strings rosin. So
Speaker 1: you know, who knows if that web was thick enough
Speaker 1: and it was attached to something that would sound you know,
Speaker 1: maybe a hollow or something like that, or a log
Speaker 1: or even a tree. I mean the guitar, rudimentary guitar
Speaker 1: and the spider just moving along that or maybe kind
Speaker 1: of plucking at it, it could make some strange noises.
Speaker 1: You're blowing my mind here.
Speaker 11: Buddy, Yeah, No, like you were just saying, like the
Speaker 11: whole thing picture of a wine glass, they say, if it
Speaker 11: has more crystal in it, supposedly you get it a
Speaker 11: little bit wet on the top and it's like woo
Speaker 11: woo woo, makes a crazy sound. And I'll do it.
Speaker 1: You sweat your finger, just rub it, yeah, lightly around
Speaker 1: the lip of it. And back in the day, there
Speaker 1: was a thing I think they called a glass harmonica
Speaker 1: or something like that, people that by adjusting the water
Speaker 1: level and the glasses, they could tune it to certain
Speaker 1: notes and then they would play that like kind of
Speaker 1: like playing a piano, but by rubbing the Yes, I've
Speaker 1: seen an old old video there.
Speaker 11: It's that the ozakkala when we're speaking about that same thing,
Speaker 11: how they're able to replicate a very creepy howl by
Speaker 11: using rope and barrels and such. So it's definitely capable impossible.
Speaker 11: But man, you want to talk about before how you
Speaker 11: had mentioned that, well, some dinosaurs had feathers. They're pretty
Speaker 11: optimistic the majority of them did, and they're very optimistic
Speaker 11: that the majority of dinosaurs actually were warm blooded and
Speaker 11: that they weren't typical quote unquote lizards, and they have
Speaker 11: been finding a ton of evidence to support this, which
Speaker 11: now means, yeah, you can't really fully judge somethings intellect
Speaker 11: because people can be like Oh, well, hey, crocodiles or reptiles,
Speaker 11: brains the size of a walnut whatever. Okay, And then
Speaker 11: someone would be like, well, look at a bab boon.
Speaker 11: Those are super smart. Yes, but I recently watched a
Speaker 11: baboon that apparently thought he was king of this area
Speaker 11: and got snapped up and consumed by the crocodile. So
Speaker 11: wait a second, this crocodile knows and they warn people
Speaker 11: do not go down into the water at the same
Speaker 11: points in time, do not camp in the same points
Speaker 11: in time, because they learn your patterns. I mean, I
Speaker 11: don't care what any human out there wants to say
Speaker 11: about that topic. That's pretty intellectual enough to be able
Speaker 11: to survive as long as they have. And dude, they're
Speaker 11: out smarting people. Wait a second, I thought people were
Speaker 11: so smart, But how many times do they get consumed
Speaker 11: by crocodiles after being told not to do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh, Darwin and action there. Never mind. I saw
Speaker 1: something that the other day about a bunch of monkeys
Speaker 1: that escaped from a research facility around Raising Hill in
Speaker 1: the woods, and they claimed that there were monkeys that
Speaker 1: haven't been experimented on yet. But of course they're going
Speaker 1: to say no, tell them what's out there right around.
Speaker 1: But we can also reminded me, have you ever heard
Speaker 1: of the hundredth monkey theory?
Speaker 11: No, I have not, and I would love for you
Speaker 11: to tell me that. But one quick thing I wanted
Speaker 11: to still blow your mind about so recently about the
Speaker 11: feather thing, is they found what they believe is a
Speaker 11: version of the t rex, not just a relative, but
Speaker 11: a version. So most animals, right you head down, No
Speaker 11: warmer clients, No, not this t rex. It went up
Speaker 11: to the North Pole and they found feathers on it,
Speaker 11: and they believed that it was white like a polar bear.
Speaker 11: And wait a second, if you're cold blooded, you sure
Speaker 11: as heck can't be living in the snow. You'd be frozen.
Speaker 11: And wait a second, it's got feathers, and wow. It
Speaker 11: chose to go up north because wait a second, it
Speaker 11: had to deal with harsher climates. But it had no
Speaker 11: competition for predators, whereas it went down south. It has
Speaker 11: other t rexes, all kinds of other carnivorous dinosaurs, but
Speaker 11: here in the North Pole they only had herbivores. This
Speaker 11: was the apex predator in the area. And there you go,
Speaker 11: my friend, that's some brilliant stuff I had just found
Speaker 11: out too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's in Indeed, I love the research that you're
Speaker 1: doing here. This is what I got about the hundredth monkey.
Speaker 1: The hundredth monkey theory is an idea that suggests when
Speaker 1: a certain number of individuals in a population learn a
Speaker 1: new behavior or idea, it will suddenly and spontaneously spread
Speaker 1: to the rest of the population, even those here are
Speaker 1: geographically isolated. Now, the story behind this theory s them
Speaker 1: some observations of Japanese macaques. In the nineteen fifties, researchers
Speaker 1: noticed that some monkeys on the island of Koshima learned
Speaker 1: to watch sweet potatoes before eating them. As more monkeys
Speaker 1: learned this behavior, it seemed to reach a critical mass,
Speaker 1: after which the behavior suddenly spread to other monkey colonies
Speaker 1: on nearby islands, even though there was no direct contact
Speaker 1: between them. So the phenomenon has been interpreted by some
Speaker 1: as an evidence kind of a collective cautiousness or a
Speaker 1: morphogenetic field that allows for the instantaneous transmission of information
Speaker 1: between individuals without any physical means of communication. Now again,
Speaker 1: it's just a theory. It's been criticized by the scientific
Speaker 1: community but again, as I think it kind of makes sense,
Speaker 1: you know that how did they learn it? If they're
Speaker 1: geographically isolated, I mean they can talk, but if they're
Speaker 1: on different islands, how did they tell I mean, they
Speaker 1: can talk to each other, you know, they have their
Speaker 1: own little language there. But that's in a nutshell, that's
Speaker 1: the hundredth monkey.
Speaker 11: That is some great stuff. And to be honest with you,
Speaker 11: as a scientific mind, I would love to hear the
Speaker 11: reasoning from the scientist because I have heard other scientists
Speaker 11: right now that I'm going to state, and they are
Speaker 11: also on my science team, some of them. I don't
Speaker 11: know where these scientists were thinking, because I mean, yeah,
Speaker 11: of course that happens. And I'm going to give everybody
Speaker 11: an example orcus. There's arguably questions as whether they're the
Speaker 11: most intelligent dominant pret are in the ocean. Octopuses are
Speaker 11: super smart too, So we're not going to dive into that.
Speaker 11: We're just going to dive into the fact. Orcas are
Speaker 11: smart and they are dope wolves of the sea. There's
Speaker 11: a reason for that. Okay, Well, only certain parts in
Speaker 11: the world do orcas consume the livers of great white
Speaker 11: sharks and six skilled sharks and others, not in every area.
Speaker 11: It started off in South Africa with they don't know
Speaker 11: where the heck these orcas came from. They don't know
Speaker 11: if they were in captivity and got too big or what.
Speaker 11: But they had their fins bent over. And the only
Speaker 11: way that ever occurs is if you were put in
Speaker 11: under extreme stressful situations, malnourished and also in captivity. Born
Speaker 11: in the wild. It's never been documented that you would
Speaker 11: have hump bent over dorsal fins and port side and
Speaker 11: the other side. I don't know my boat terms is
Speaker 11: what they dubbed these brothers, they believed, and they watched
Speaker 11: them sit there and start doing this, the only two
Speaker 11: orcas to ever be seen doing this. Well, they started
Speaker 11: linking up with another pod, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 11: this pod started doing this. And then this pod moved
Speaker 11: a very far distant way because they traveled a ton
Speaker 11: and started doing this behavior in a new area that
Speaker 11: other orcas then saw them and start participating in. And
Speaker 11: now I'm going to give one more example. You have
Speaker 11: great white sharks, same thing. Not everywhere is a documented
Speaker 11: that white sharks leap out of the water after seals
Speaker 11: and such. They do in Cape Cod and they do
Speaker 11: down in South Africa and California, but in a ton
Speaker 11: of other spots they haven't been documented doing that. And
Speaker 11: also in California recently they have seen very large great
Speaker 11: white sharks, not all of them, just a few that
Speaker 11: have become more boisterous and are willing to come pretty
Speaker 11: close into shore where technically I guess they could get
Speaker 11: stuck in this water. But they're catching these seals and
Speaker 11: sea lions off guard because they think they're safe. They're
Speaker 11: playing around, they're not even paying attention to boom. So again,
Speaker 11: not all them are doing that, And that just shows
Speaker 11: two examples right there, and I mean I could bust
Speaker 11: out a ton of more.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, they're fascinating. And you know, i'd like,
Speaker 1: you know, quale songs they sing. They use that for something,
Speaker 1: I mean, geolocation among other things. But I think they
Speaker 1: talk to one they have a language, and you can
Speaker 1: imagine how far the sound would carry underwater like that.
Speaker 1: So I think if whales can do it, porpoise dolphins
Speaker 1: they talk to each other. Who's to say that all
Speaker 1: the creatures of the sea don't have some form of that.
Speaker 1: But the thing that always got me was about about
Speaker 1: the dolphins. You know, they're very intelligent, they say that
Speaker 1: they're I've even heard their brains compared to that of
Speaker 1: a human and things, But yet they always get caught
Speaker 1: in the tune nets. I never understood that if if dolphins,
Speaker 1: you know, have that kind of intelligence, you think they
Speaker 1: would learn that. Well, there's two Now I need to
Speaker 1: go the other way. I'm going to end up in
Speaker 1: a net. So there's some things that are nominal like that,
Speaker 1: but I believe there's more. There's an old I can't
Speaker 1: remember who was in an old movie. I think it's
Speaker 1: called A Daily Dolphins or something like that, where during
Speaker 1: World War Two they were training dolphins to be spies
Speaker 1: and emissaries for the military. And I believe that's possible.
Speaker 11: Well, I know how you just said that because I
Speaker 11: was literally on Miss Barbara Hartman's podcast Opened the Door
Speaker 11: the other night speaking about how during World War two
Speaker 11: the SS and the Dirty Stash that they had all
Speaker 11: kinds of advancements. I was just touch base on real
Speaker 11: quick that caused that, Like you said, they had on
Speaker 11: their battleships basically like chicken wire that would hang down
Speaker 11: and put out electronic pulses that would disarm our torpedoes
Speaker 11: and such. So we started to train, you know, things
Speaker 11: like dolphins and such to go plant those mines on there,
Speaker 11: because they would also maneuver their way through all the
Speaker 11: land mines. But something else, though, is they themselves had
Speaker 11: mercury that were so light that they would float and
Speaker 11: be drawn to metal, and they have been found in
Speaker 11: ss submarines, crash ships, all kinds of things. And what
Speaker 11: they would do is release these and they would attach
Speaker 11: to our bombers that were flying above and immediately cut
Speaker 11: your power out and disable you and you crash. So
Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, the technology right there caused obviously something
Speaker 11: to have to be changed. But yeah, I don't have
Speaker 11: an answer for the tune in that thing. But then
Speaker 11: obviously they're smart enough to maneuver the way through the
Speaker 11: minefields and put a bomb on the boat. So I
Speaker 11: think it might just be that you don't always get
Speaker 11: the cream of the crop.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 11: I think the ones that are cost probably aren't the smartest, the.
Speaker 1: Slowest for the ones that have an addiction to the
Speaker 1: taste of tune.
Speaker 11: Yes, exactly, my friends. So I think like that theory.
Speaker 11: I don't know who says it. But the biggest and
Speaker 11: baddest of anything is not the biggest and baddest because
Speaker 11: they were dumb enough to get caught. Meaning if you see,
Speaker 11: you know, Gustav or something that's a twenty five foot crocodile, well,
Speaker 11: like I said, you're filming him, you've almost caught him.
Speaker 11: He's dumb enough to be in that situation, which means
Speaker 11: there has to be something bigger, bigger fish in the sea.
Speaker 11: It's just the way things work. You're never going to
Speaker 11: be the most dominant anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I looked up that movie in nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1: I was ten years old. It's called Day of the Dolphin.
Speaker 1: Marine biologist Jake, played by George C. Scott and Maggie
Speaker 1: Tall Tricia van Derverer have for many years been doing
Speaker 1: dolphin research in the Florida Keys, and have even coached
Speaker 1: some dolphins to speak Primitive English. But when two of
Speaker 1: the dolphins are kidnapped, an investigation proves that the Tarrell's
Speaker 1: financial backers, the mysterious Franklin Foundation, have had sinister intentions
Speaker 1: all along. The dolphins are to be used to deliver
Speaker 1: a detonate explosives beneath the presidency yacht. Now, how's that
Speaker 1: for a conspiracy? And you know it's from based on
Speaker 1: things that I've read, it's not too far from what
Speaker 1: these animals are capable of.
Speaker 11: Yeah, of course, And that's brilliant stuff right there. And
Speaker 11: people just in general, I think, always find themselves to
Speaker 11: be the most intellectual, and man, I run into that
Speaker 11: so much, which is why I don't enjoy communicating with
Speaker 11: certain amounts of people, because you can't even have a
Speaker 11: conversation a lot of times without somebody getting upset about something,
Speaker 11: even though you're not upset just because you have a
Speaker 11: different view on something. And people just are always thinking
Speaker 11: they're the smartest or their opinion, etc. Even though when
Speaker 11: I make opinions about things, I purposely go out of
Speaker 11: my way, you know, to do the research on something
Speaker 11: before I solidify my opinions. And I just think in general,
Speaker 11: we run into that a lot where people just think
Speaker 11: that we're the smartest and we're not an animal, and oh,
Speaker 11: it's just a stupid moth, Like, who cares, I'm a person.
Speaker 11: Get rid of that. Moths step on it. But if
Speaker 11: we really pull back and think about Earth and evolution
Speaker 11: and how everything is, that moth serves the same purpose,
Speaker 11: if not a more prevalent purpose than we do. I mean, realistically,
Speaker 11: we do have the capability to do some very beautiful
Speaker 11: things for Earth and in general, but for the most part,
Speaker 11: we tend to do negative things that outweigh positive things.
Speaker 11: And I'll give a few examples real quick. We know
Speaker 11: nothing really about the ocean. Yet supposedly the Mariana Trench
Speaker 11: is the deepest part of the ocean, and well, there's
Speaker 11: trash all the way down there. So wait a second.
Speaker 11: We know nothing about the ocean, but yet we've been
Speaker 11: able to somehow pollute it already good great stuff. And
Speaker 11: then we all know that what the ocean filters out
Speaker 11: things that we need in the atmosphere man to make
Speaker 11: sure that we can breathe properly. So do trees and
Speaker 11: what do we consistently do? We cut down trees over
Speaker 11: and over again, and we just whether or not it's needed.
Speaker 11: Everything is amplified. There's no more like respect anymore. Like
Speaker 11: I'm a big person about if I could go back
Speaker 11: in the past, I would love to live like the
Speaker 11: indigenous cultures. I mean, you just take what you need.
Speaker 11: You always make sure when you leave that there's more
Speaker 11: in left for nature and then you bring back that's
Speaker 11: just the way it is, man, and no one seems
Speaker 11: to really have that respect anymore. So no, wonder nature
Speaker 11: doesn't really like people. I mean, people for some reason
Speaker 11: think that we own earth and that we created it
Speaker 11: and that everything is under our depiction. Meaning okay, people
Speaker 11: you know, will say, hey, there's too many herbivores in
Speaker 11: this area, we need to make sure to go in
Speaker 11: and hunt them. Okay, Well, I'm not saying that's incorrect
Speaker 11: or correct. My response would be before humans ever existed,
Speaker 11: if we didn't encroach enough on nature and screwed things up,
Speaker 11: editors and such, those things are handled. Okay. Yet for
Speaker 11: some reason now we as people think, Nope, can't be
Speaker 11: any wolves in Montana. I'm sitting here trying to raise
Speaker 11: my cattle. Nope, no wolves, even though wolves are a
Speaker 11: pivotal part of evolution and the survival of other things.
Speaker 11: But no, it doesn't matter. I'm a person, I'm better
Speaker 11: than that, and it's very unfortunate. So I just always
Speaker 11: try to distance myself from things like that, but also
Speaker 11: make sure to realize that there are good things that
Speaker 11: can be done and make sure that i'm trying to
Speaker 11: be on the side of that. And like you were saying,
Speaker 11: you know AI, for example, people all day they can
Speaker 11: say all the bad things. I'm going to give a
Speaker 11: beautiful example of AI. What can AI do that you
Speaker 11: and I can't do? Doesn't need to rest Man Cronch
Speaker 11: Crunch numbers everything well with the Amazon. You know how
Speaker 11: many species they found recently with AI because AI can
Speaker 11: listen to everything and now tells people that the jungle
Speaker 11: is into stress because I understand the vocalization patterns and
Speaker 11: such that are occurring. So if this is doing this,
Speaker 11: it's because this is a current. Wow. Is that some
Speaker 11: beautiful stuff? So if everyone thinks AI is so evil
Speaker 11: and such, it's not. It's just like everything else, what
Speaker 11: are we using it for?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And indeed, it's the intent. It's like any tool,
Speaker 1: like a handgun, for example, it's you know what you
Speaker 1: do with If you rob somebody, that's one thing, but
Speaker 1: if you hunt with it for food, that's another. I'm
Speaker 1: not advocating for against hunting. That's each of their own.
Speaker 1: I'm not a hunter. Never I shot a squirrel when
Speaker 1: I was a child and did something to me, and
Speaker 1: I've never shot another animal. I never will. But it's
Speaker 1: just one of those things.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: It's again the VCR. When that came out, people was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's going to destroy this and destroy that. Ayeah. You know,
Speaker 1: you can watch it for entertainment, you can rent the tapes,
Speaker 1: or you can use it to illegally tape stuff off
Speaker 1: the TV. You know, the measure baseball. Without the express
Speaker 1: written consent, you've committed a crime. It's just the intent
Speaker 1: with it. But yeah, Ai, it can be a tool.
Speaker 1: And the more it knows, the smarter it gets. And
Speaker 1: I mean there's people that worry about the singularity and stuff,
Speaker 1: and I think we're still decades from that where yes,
Speaker 1: it realizes that the biggest threat to humanity is humanity
Speaker 1: and has to destroy is kind of like how in
Speaker 1: two thousand and one in Space Odyssey. But something that
Speaker 1: you're talking about there, it kind of reminded me. There's
Speaker 1: an old Isaac Asimov a short story and I think
Speaker 1: the man was a genius called does a bee Care?
Speaker 1: And it's kind of talking about, you know, does a
Speaker 1: parasitic something like that, even if it's an animal or
Speaker 1: a human, does it care about the host? And I
Speaker 1: know the answer is it doesn't, but just apply it
Speaker 1: somewer here and see if this sounds like it could
Speaker 1: be possible. An agger om is deposited on a pre
Speaker 1: human earth by an alien race, and in due course
Speaker 1: it gives birth to a creature that takes the form
Speaker 1: of the human. Over the centuries, the creature lives amongst
Speaker 1: humans and mentally influences certain of them to advance the
Speaker 1: development of the civilization. In particular, it works on scientists,
Speaker 1: and eventually it causes the development of space travel. As
Speaker 1: the first spaceship to attempt to reach the Moon is
Speaker 1: being built, the creature, now known as Caine, causes the
Speaker 1: creation of a small space in the ship, which he
Speaker 1: enters unknown to the builders. So the thing has been
Speaker 1: here for centuries, and it's just trying to influence the
Speaker 1: human mindset to build all this and to make all
Speaker 1: these discoveries so it can get back home. And he
Speaker 1: drew a great analogy between this cane creature and a
Speaker 1: bee that visits and thereby pollinates flowers at random, with
Speaker 1: no real knowledge of what it's done. But it's a
Speaker 1: great story. If you've never read it, check it out.
Speaker 1: I like that concept that you know, we're basically we
Speaker 1: could be intergalactic sea monkeys or an alien ant farm
Speaker 1: or something, if you will. That we're put here to
Speaker 1: get to a point where we can do something for
Speaker 1: something off planet.
Speaker 11: Brilliant stuff right there, And I mean we do, like
Speaker 11: I said, have the capability to do quite amazing things.
Speaker 11: And even our ancestors, which again modern day individuals look
Speaker 11: back at, you know, a lot of our ancestors and
Speaker 11: assume that they weren't very intellectual. I mean, before I
Speaker 11: dive into something to show their intellect, I'm going to
Speaker 11: give an example way back in the past. Neanderthals. Okay,
Speaker 11: it's very widely accepted that Homo erectus and other versions
Speaker 11: of more modern day humans evolved to be more intellectual
Speaker 11: than Neanderthals. Okay, I mean sure, But here we go
Speaker 11: with the fact that I found caves where these Neanderthals
Speaker 11: put their handprints on the wall, meaning that they had
Speaker 11: at least enough of an understanding to be like, hey,
Speaker 11: we existed. They have evidence that they cared for their
Speaker 11: sick and week, and they also had aesthetics, meaning certain
Speaker 11: versions like had their weapons in different colors and such.
Speaker 11: So there is definitely a disconnect of what we consider
Speaker 11: to be you know, intellectual right there, because that's really smart.
Speaker 11: And if you look at nature and how nature works,
Speaker 11: nature will always we're actually working to I believe it's
Speaker 11: more than a hypothesis. Now I did not come up
Speaker 11: with this, but I have been churning it with my
Speaker 11: science team and they love it too. And the scientists
Speaker 11: that came up with it are absolutely brilliant. So nature
Speaker 11: has a blueprint. Okay, I mean, just look through history
Speaker 11: and just look in modern day times more or less.
Speaker 11: I mean, okay, t rex Alisaurus different, pretty similar, right,
Speaker 11: I mean, tiger lion different, pretty similar. Okay, Megalodon, great
Speaker 11: white shark different, pretty similar, more or less. What I'm
Speaker 11: trying to get as every time either a herbivore or
Speaker 11: a meat eating carnivorous entity or being or creature or animal,
Speaker 11: whatever terminology someone would like to use, is removed from
Speaker 11: an ecosystem, Nature then is going to fill that void
Speaker 11: with something similar because there are nutrients and things that
Speaker 11: are being unused. And recently they have found and this
Speaker 11: is where we're trying to push this too, they found
Speaker 11: a grizzly bear that had a very high level of
Speaker 11: short faced k bear DNA in it, okay, And this
Speaker 11: is where we were starting to think that nature's got
Speaker 11: to reset in a blueprint. So think if that grizzly
Speaker 11: that had the higher DNA count in it of the
Speaker 11: short face cave bear then went out and you know,
Speaker 11: made it with another grizzly bear. Sure it's going to
Speaker 11: be lower than what it was in him, but now
Speaker 11: that higher gene pool of the short faced cave bear
Speaker 11: is being passed on.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 11: So it's really not that hard to think that this
Speaker 11: occurs in other aspects, meaning when people see things that
Speaker 11: are out of the ordinary or such well, I mean
Speaker 11: the cave hyena for example, that hyena gene pool is
Speaker 11: still in the hyena gene pool. So it's really not
Speaker 11: far fetched to think that at points in time a
Speaker 11: hyena can be born with higher DNA levels of an ancestor.
Speaker 11: I mean, it's no different than humans, Okay, people, it's
Speaker 11: a proven fact. People can look it up. Individuals with
Speaker 11: larger skulls and bigger brown lines and noses and such
Speaker 11: and shorter usually and most always have higher levels of
Speaker 11: Neanderthal in them, whereas taller, paler people usually have denisoviium. Also,
Speaker 11: people that have red hair and are pale. That's more
Speaker 11: of a dentist I mean, sorry, Neanderthal trait as well,
Speaker 11: very interesting stuff. So if that's able to recur in US, okay,
Speaker 11: then why would that not occur in nature as well?
Speaker 11: Like our science team said, it's not a good thing
Speaker 11: with nature, meaning not with the bear. But if something,
Speaker 11: for example, was starting to develop or come up with
Speaker 11: a higher DNA percentage, that most likely means it's ancestral
Speaker 11: aspect is on its last line. But like I said,
Speaker 11: nature has a reset button, and if it didn't, then
Speaker 11: why does everything fill a niche? Like I said, I mean,
Speaker 11: there's not much of a difference between the t rex
Speaker 11: and then Alysaurus. They were put in different timeframes. They
Speaker 11: didn't collide with each other, but they were in that niche.
Speaker 11: To then consume things, you remove both of them. We
Speaker 11: have the carnosaurs. I mean there's Gagantasaurus. There's a ton
Speaker 11: of apex predators that fit the same line of those dinosaurs.
Speaker 11: And what happened one was removed and other ones stepped in.
Speaker 1: So indeed, and it's this, you know, nature takes care
Speaker 1: of nature if it feels need like you said, if
Speaker 1: it has to evolve something or replace something all together.
Speaker 1: That's what it exactly do. Now it may take you know,
Speaker 1: thousands of years or more to do it, but in
Speaker 1: nature everything seems to serve a purpose. There's a few
Speaker 1: things I'm not so sure about, but I'm sure you know,
Speaker 1: somewhere along the line they do. But it's just fascinating
Speaker 1: to think about, you know how, there's such intelligent design there.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing I think that points to the stars,
Speaker 1: or from a biblical perspective, the mind of God, because
Speaker 1: you look at the numbers that are in everything. God
Speaker 1: is in the numbers. Look at the golden ratio.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's something all throughout nature. You were not incorrect,
Speaker 11: my friend. I mean, I still wanted to blow your
Speaker 11: mind again. But there is actually some pretty quality evidence
Speaker 11: supporting With the octopus, for example, it's unlike anything else
Speaker 11: any sort of cephlopod or anything even squid that are
Speaker 11: closely related to it, not as intelligent, not capable of
Speaker 11: doing They've documented all get stuff back, yes, and they
Speaker 11: basically do what the predator does, meaning they sit there
Speaker 11: and orchestrate decorations in front of their caves and their
Speaker 11: little dens and stuff. So wow. But now again real
Speaker 11: quick with a prehistoric aspect. This isn't prehistoric, but we're
Speaker 11: going to talk for a second or real quick about
Speaker 11: the Egyptians and then also the Greeks, because the Romans
Speaker 11: pretty much just took everything that the Greeks did, so
Speaker 11: we don't need to mention them, even though they did
Speaker 11: elaborate a little bit. But on top of the pyramids,
Speaker 11: there has always been some sort of metalish, shiny substance
Speaker 11: that they always wondered what it could serve purposes for Recently,
Speaker 11: there is a ton of evidence supporting it was more
Speaker 11: or less like a primitive power source, meaning that when
Speaker 11: the sun and stuff would hit that it would boom
Speaker 11: boom boom, connect and it would cause power. Unfortunately, once
Speaker 11: one would be you know, damage or something, you would
Speaker 11: lose all your power. But that's pretty advanced. And then
Speaker 11: the Greeks had forms of electricity and running water to
Speaker 11: an extent, and that's pretty dang advanced, man, because after
Speaker 11: these time frames, what happened in the medieval times, you know,
Speaker 11: you want to talk about primitive Neanderthal living, Yeah, something
Speaker 11: happened there that caused Yes.
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Speaker 1: Now, and we're back here everything out there, I mean,
Speaker 1: Steve Stalking on the Clyde Lewis Ground zero Radio Network
Speaker 1: back to continue to blow my mind for the second
Speaker 1: half of the show. Welcome back Star Fox from Star
Speaker 1: Fox Radio and the North American dog Man Project. I
Speaker 1: love it when I have a guest like you on
Speaker 1: that just absolutely sets me on my head. You know,
Speaker 1: You've made me think about things that I ordinarily wouldn't
Speaker 1: have thought of, or at least not anyway soon anyway,
Speaker 1: And I really appreciate that, and I'm sure the audience
Speaker 1: does too. So we could pick up where we left off.
Speaker 1: We're talking about ancient cultures and then what happened between
Speaker 1: that and medieval times? There was a reset in there somewhere.
Speaker 1: What do you think happened.
Speaker 11: That's a very good question, my friend, because obviously, like
Speaker 11: you said, there was some sort of reset right there,
Speaker 11: and I don't think it really had something to do
Speaker 11: with all of a sudden people lost the intellect that
Speaker 11: was there. I don't know. I think something must have occurred,
Speaker 11: meaning yeah, if they were, for example, able to have
Speaker 11: the power sources with like you know, the Egyptians and such, well,
Speaker 11: if you know, the line of individuals that knew how
Speaker 11: to do that had an unfortunate event, maybe they passed
Speaker 11: away or something and they didn't pass on that knowledge,
Speaker 11: and then all of a sudden, the top of one
Speaker 11: pyramid gets damaged. Boom. Everyone loses their power sourcement there.
Speaker 11: Then they can't grow crops properly or whatever, et cetera.
Speaker 11: And saying thing with what happened with the Romans, Well,
Speaker 11: they got overran by Norse tribes and people that were
Speaker 11: considered by the Romans to be barbaric. But I mean
Speaker 11: people had been living in that lifestyle for hundreds of
Speaker 11: thousands of years. Okay, so it's interesting to depict that
Speaker 11: as a barbaric because I mean, it really all depends
Speaker 11: on the beholder. But either way, I think just because
Speaker 11: of the maybe the harsh treatment and such, well you
Speaker 11: have those rebellious cultures. But at the same time, sure
Speaker 11: they might have been rebelling for what they were able
Speaker 11: to convince their followers of. But haven't we gone down
Speaker 11: this road before?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 11: When you put your enemy of an enemy as an
Speaker 11: enemy of mine or whatever that terminology is, I definitely
Speaker 11: just messed it up.
Speaker 1: But what happened enemies is it my friend's enemy is
Speaker 1: how does that go?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 1: My my enemy's enemy is my friend, I think is
Speaker 1: the way it goes.
Speaker 11: Yes, when you get what I was trying to put down.
Speaker 11: So what I think occurred is you had people that
Speaker 11: were no different. Like I mean, look at a Till
Speaker 11: of the Hunt, prime example. I mean, to his followers,
Speaker 11: he was considered the man. But everybody else you know,
Speaker 11: that dude was psychotic, but he ends up, you know,
Speaker 11: being able to. He was some of the people that
Speaker 11: took on some of those more prominent cultures. But more
Speaker 11: or less, what I'm saying is you get people at
Speaker 11: that right that talk everyone that's tired of being oppressed, and.
Speaker 1: You get an Antila, you get a Gingha's Khan, you
Speaker 1: get something less. It comes along and finds people that
Speaker 1: are complacent. They're happy, they've got you know, the White
Speaker 1: House with white pick expence to two point three kids,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, here come the barbaric hordes.
Speaker 1: You have the plundering horns come in and just you know,
Speaker 1: blow their minds.
Speaker 11: And I don't think Attila, the Hunt and all those
Speaker 11: people you mentioned cared about that type of technology. They
Speaker 11: just wanted to plunder. So I think a lot of
Speaker 11: that just got destroyed, and most likely anyone that thought
Speaker 11: or had that belief system was probably unfortunately executed. So
Speaker 11: again that's just my thought on that, but I think
Speaker 11: that might be a big play that then all of
Speaker 11: a sudden you got these more primitive based psychos kind
Speaker 11: of that got into power. And people can argue that,
Speaker 11: but I mean, look at a lot of the religion.
Speaker 11: I mean a lot of the royal families and such. Man,
Speaker 11: there was so much incest that was going on in
Speaker 11: there and all kinds of messed up stuff. So just
Speaker 11: because somebody was a prince or a queen doesn't mean
Speaker 11: they were of sane mind. And I think a lot
Speaker 11: of that had occurred in the beginning is that you
Speaker 11: just wiped out everything. Meaning there's very rarely when cultures
Speaker 11: that are overtaken, their stuff gets infiltrated.
Speaker 12: Back in the.
Speaker 11: Greeks pretty much are correct me if I'm wrong. The
Speaker 11: only culture I know were because the Romans loved the
Speaker 11: Greeks so much, but they took them over, but they
Speaker 11: still loved everything about them so much, where they're like, yeah,
Speaker 11: we're gonna base everything off y'all, and you can even
Speaker 11: have Athens, but it's not Greece anymore. It's Rome. But
Speaker 11: the majority of other cultures I've seen that are overtaken.
Speaker 11: No one cares about the art they did or the history.
Speaker 11: All that's usually destroyed.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, it's like like when the mind
Speaker 1: and the muscle made the intellectuals, it's that's going to
Speaker 1: follow the wayside. I mean, you can't eat art or
Speaker 1: anything like that, or if you're not educated to the
Speaker 1: point to where you can enjoy it or appreciate it,
Speaker 1: then it means absolutely nothing to you.
Speaker 11: That's exactly. So that's really you just broke it down
Speaker 11: into if I could state it, the best way I
Speaker 11: could rate there is I think personally that's what it's occurred.
Speaker 11: It's you can put something in front of somebody, but
Speaker 11: they don't know how to use it or put that
Speaker 11: to anything that's going to help in survival aspects. I mean,
Speaker 11: what lead a horse, but if it doesn't drink, it
Speaker 11: doesn't drink, man, I mean, what can you do if
Speaker 11: you don't understand something?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 11: And like you just said, unfortunately it still seems to
Speaker 11: occur now, you know, the nerds versus le bron or whatever.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 11: Even in football, you get the former football players that
Speaker 11: are like dude analytics. Those guys don't know. They're just
Speaker 11: the nerds and the front office crunching numbers. But they
Speaker 11: need them though too, because they are right. If something
Speaker 11: has a sixty five percent success ratio, then yeah, sure
Speaker 11: you might think it's a dumb decision, but sixty five
Speaker 11: percent of the odds are saying it's not. You know so,
Speaker 11: But again, that just kind of shows you the unfortunate
Speaker 11: clash of there. It's not definitive, but it's usually very
Speaker 11: proven that athletes, for example, aren't as intellectual as say
Speaker 11: a scientist or such. Meaning you could take that scientist
Speaker 11: and try to have him be athletic or her doesn't
Speaker 11: work out. They're just usually super awkward and stuff like that.
Speaker 11: But they're so smart. But then not saying an athlete
Speaker 11: is not intellectual. But man, I've seen some pretty wow.
Speaker 11: Oh how did you get to where you are.
Speaker 1: Seeing some Neanderthals on the football field?
Speaker 11: Yes, that's all, yes, thank you man, So you know,
Speaker 11: but they can do that. But now, if you were
Speaker 11: to take that Neanderthal on the football field, like you said,
Speaker 11: and ask them to crunch the numbers and you know,
Speaker 11: show why you know we supports we do this. They
Speaker 11: had no clue whatsoever. So yeah, it's something where it's
Speaker 11: both needed, but it's just one of those natural clashing
Speaker 11: and I think that occurred. Man, you had people that
Speaker 11: were considered probably super smart, like all right, Cesius and
Speaker 11: all these people that were the astrologers and such. I
Speaker 11: don't know. Unfortunately, unless they were unlived and passed away
Speaker 11: before the barbarians came in too, those people would have
Speaker 11: just got rolled.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, they wouldn't have had I think they would
Speaker 1: have known that there was no use fighting back, that
Speaker 1: their capacity to fight and their military intelligence would would
Speaker 1: be so limited that it was easier just to give
Speaker 1: up and let things come what may. And I believe
Speaker 1: that's what happened.
Speaker 11: I agreed.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't reason with you know, they'd be
Speaker 1: like being out in the woods and trying to reason
Speaker 1: with a grizzly or a mountain lion or something that
Speaker 1: was about to eat you. All it sees is food
Speaker 1: and there's no reasoning that's going to cure that. And
Speaker 1: the same with the barbarians. All they say is something
Speaker 1: they can take, and what they don't want they're they're
Speaker 1: quite content to destroy it.
Speaker 11: It happens all the time. I mean even in modern
Speaker 11: day wartimes. Unfortunately. You know, when cultures invade other cultures,
Speaker 11: there have been great historical finds like complete dinosaur skeletons
Speaker 11: almost and all kinds of beautiful things that have been
Speaker 11: blown up and airstrikes, and no one cares about that
Speaker 11: outside of unfortunately, the people that do in the cultures.
Speaker 11: But like you said, usually when someone's invading, they're not
Speaker 11: there because they respect your culture. They're there because they
Speaker 11: don't care, and what you have is what they want.
Speaker 1: And I mean you can't imagine, you know, saying, well,
Speaker 1: let's go attack this place because they've got a fantastic
Speaker 1: art museum, epergent nightlife, Seene and off Broadway theaters. You
Speaker 1: won't believe. No, No, they've got gold, they've got food,
Speaker 1: they've got women, let's go.
Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly. And here's another example. I mean, look at
Speaker 11: the Aztecs. Okay, you know what happened to them, right, Well,
Speaker 11: they would go around to all these villages that they
Speaker 11: thought were inferior to them and take all their women
Speaker 11: and children and men and sacrifice them. So what happened
Speaker 11: as soon as all the Spaniards came over. What do
Speaker 11: you think all these indigenous cultures did that were being
Speaker 11: abused and completely terrorized by the Aztecs. Yo, they're right
Speaker 11: over here, like, let's go get these guys, dude, and
Speaker 11: what do they do? They teamed up with the Spaniards
Speaker 11: to remove the Aztec So, I mean, it's just that's
Speaker 11: another example right there.
Speaker 1: The span to be is my best friend exactly.
Speaker 11: Yes, Oh wait, you guys, wow, even though you're here
Speaker 11: to pillage everything to you, you know, screw me over after,
Speaker 11: it can't be worse than cutting my heart out and
Speaker 11: kicking me down a huge flight of temple stairs, you.
Speaker 1: Know, indeed. And it's it's amazing, you know, to look
Speaker 1: back in the retrospect, you know, you can connect the
Speaker 1: dots in reverse easily, but you can see how these
Speaker 1: empires were formed, how they grew, and how they fell.
Speaker 1: As my grandparents would have said, they got too big
Speaker 1: for their breeches, and just being in that complacency like
Speaker 1: you know, where the we're the smartest, we're the greatest,
Speaker 1: where the biggest, But there's always somebody bigger and badder
Speaker 1: that'll come along.
Speaker 11: Yes, like you just said, it's just the way things
Speaker 11: really occur. And here's something else that's super interesting that
Speaker 11: I think will also classify into what people in the
Speaker 11: past might have seen for misidentifications and such. There are
Speaker 11: a ton of indigenous cultures that had really awesome get ups,
Speaker 11: I mean, like big crow masks and feathers and such
Speaker 11: that they would put on and they would wait till
Speaker 11: the fog would come out and such, and they would
Speaker 11: even go into the water and dip down like they
Speaker 11: were drinking and flap all around. And some of the
Speaker 11: more westernized individuals that had basically wanted to learn about
Speaker 11: this were able to witness a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 11: And they had done that with a lot of things
Speaker 11: that they did. A ceremony that basically had something to
Speaker 11: do with dog headed people where they would have people
Speaker 11: run in on all fours and dressed up just like
Speaker 11: the wolves with the furs on and everything, and then
Speaker 11: one of the chief's son was supposedly unlive. Then all
Speaker 11: the women would cry and the wolves would carry them away.
Speaker 11: And when you see though, you're like, wow, that's super cool.
Speaker 11: But also someone that's never seen that before, and if
Speaker 11: they saw that in the fog and stuff, yes, and
Speaker 11: they would think it was a giant pterosaur.
Speaker 1: Military campaigns decades ago, they talked about shock and awe.
Speaker 1: You know, that was a way to display military might
Speaker 1: and prowess to your enemy and then just lay down
Speaker 1: their weapons.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 1: But I heard comedians say once that the way to
Speaker 1: win a battle like that put people in mascot costumes.
Speaker 1: He said, imagine, got these primitive people that that you're
Speaker 1: getting ready to fight, and all of a sudden, here comes,
Speaker 1: you know, a thousand troops in say a Disney costume
Speaker 1: like Goofy costumes, charging over the hill, take no prisoners,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's going to scare the life out
Speaker 1: of them because it's, you know, to them and some
Speaker 1: hideous apparition. They don't know what it is. It's some
Speaker 1: kind of bizarre cartoon looking creature with a gun shooting
Speaker 1: at him. I mean, that's he was saying it to
Speaker 1: be funny. But I think there's a little nugget of truth.
Speaker 11: In there that's beautiful. And actually, I will give you
Speaker 11: a big nugget of truth right there. A lot of
Speaker 11: people assume that you know the whole I don't. I know,
Speaker 11: I can't use this word on YouTube, so if you
Speaker 11: have to edit it out, I'll use another word right
Speaker 11: after both the Nazis zombies or the World War. Okay,
Speaker 11: So a lot of people with the Nazis problem, Okay,
Speaker 11: think of that terminology like in the video games and such.
Speaker 11: That's actually not the very first story of that. It
Speaker 11: was actually the Russians that were these quote unquote zombies.
Speaker 11: So this group of Russians, unfortunately, were in an outpost
Speaker 11: that was like a little mini kind of castle from
Speaker 11: what I understand from the way it was drawn and described,
Speaker 11: and it was surrounded by dense forest everywhere, and the
Speaker 11: Germans and the Dirty Stash and the SS were coming
Speaker 11: in to try to overtake this area. But the way
Speaker 11: the way they were replaced, the Russians actually had the
Speaker 11: advantage and they hadn't been overtaken yet. And I don't
Speaker 11: know how long this had gone on, but it was
Speaker 11: for quite a long time for these soldiers to be
Speaker 11: able to hold off this huge, monstrous army that was coming.
Speaker 11: And actually before I finished that too, like you were saying,
Speaker 11: the appearance, if you look at like the SS and
Speaker 11: the Dirty Stash, how he dressed them, they looked like
Speaker 11: terrifying man with their gas masks with like the red
Speaker 11: eyes and stuff. So yeah, there you go about like
Speaker 11: hearing you know, your quote unquote victims. But that continues
Speaker 11: into what I'm saying. So all of a sudden, one night,
Speaker 11: this group of Russians heres bump dump dump dump dump
Speaker 11: dump dump dump. They're like, what the hecktual? They opened
Speaker 11: the front of the door real quick and dump dump
Speaker 11: dump dump. They start realizing this is like birds and
Speaker 11: animals just dropping to their demise from these trees, and
Speaker 11: it's shriveling up because there's some sort of nasty, toxic
Speaker 11: chemical that has been dispersed. Because earlier in the day
Speaker 11: they had seen in the males or whatever the bunkers
Speaker 11: that there were. They couldn't tell what the heck the
Speaker 11: uppers and the ss were saying, but they were over
Speaker 11: there doing something because they were looking up in the
Speaker 11: sky and basically trying to see which direction the wind
Speaker 11: was going. But nothing after that occurred. Well, now it
Speaker 11: all occurred that, oh crap, that's what they were doing earlier.
Speaker 11: They were figuring out the wind direction so that when
Speaker 11: it was right they could do this.
Speaker 1: Oh crap.
Speaker 11: Well, sure enough, they closed the door and all this,
Speaker 11: but the dan gas comes into so they tried to
Speaker 11: wet everything. Well, unfortunately by wetting things and putting it
Speaker 11: over your mouth, this type of gas just made it worse.
Speaker 11: So literally all these soldiers man were coughing up pieces
Speaker 11: of their lungs, their skin was melting off, their bones
Speaker 11: were starting to disintegrate. Well, they were all like, you
Speaker 11: know what, these mother truckers want a battle, We're gonna
Speaker 11: give them a freaking battle. So as they started encroaching
Speaker 11: up on this castle, these now decrepit and basically living
Speaker 11: dead Russian soldiers bust open the door and they're like
Speaker 11: like shooting off their weapons. All the Germans were like, dude,
Speaker 11: what in the Christmas trees are those? Because they literally
Speaker 11: sounded and looked like zombies walking with their feet all
Speaker 11: bent and their bodies distorted, and they all ran off. Man,
Speaker 11: they were getting caught on the barbed wire, dude, and everything,
Speaker 11: and they were just going up and I'm alive in
Speaker 11: all these Germans. And apparently one German shoved like a
Speaker 11: bayonet through the head Russian guys stomach, but he didn't
Speaker 11: feel anything at this point in time. He just spit
Speaker 11: on him and pulled it out and lit them up,
Speaker 11: and all the Germans ran away. But obviously eventually the
Speaker 11: Russians fell and Sirt came to this nasty toxin. But
Speaker 11: that's pretty much hole. The whole Nazi world war zombie
Speaker 11: thing kind of came into play cool stuff, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, Yeah, we had a couple of pastors on
Speaker 1: here talking about the Third Reich and a cult that
Speaker 1: there was a lot of interest in that among Hitler
Speaker 1: and his minions in trying to win the battle through
Speaker 1: whatever remains that they turned to some occult things, with
Speaker 1: some rituals and things that they did, and you know,
Speaker 1: that's whatever remains necessary. You know, war is war, and
Speaker 1: if you have to turn to something dark and something
Speaker 1: evil and something supernatural, if it helps you win the war,
Speaker 1: then so be. It was the way they looked at it, apparently.
Speaker 11: He definitely. I mean, okay, again, I'm spiritual, like I've
Speaker 11: told you before, I'm not religious, so I don't learn
Speaker 11: about a lot of this stuff until you know, Dennis
Speaker 11: Carroll and other people such as yourself that are super
Speaker 11: educated on the biblical aspects, and Dennis really is educated
Speaker 11: on the cult stuff. Well, I mean it can't be ironic,
Speaker 11: and I don't believe in coincidences really, I mean, I'm
Speaker 11: sure maybe they exist, Okay, but why is it every
Speaker 11: supposed demonic area or areas that were considered to be
Speaker 11: of dire ste away from did the SS and the
Speaker 11: Dirty Stash show up to I mean Castle Houshka or Hushka.
Speaker 11: And the Czech Republic was built to supposedly keep these
Speaker 11: demonic like beings that were coming up out, I mean
Speaker 11: things that looked like goatmen, werewolves, shadow figures, the Jersey Devil,
Speaker 11: creep creepy stuff. So why did the SS and Heinrich
Speaker 11: Kindler go there and then start practicing their own sort
Speaker 11: of strange rituals. And the Dirty Stash was very meticulous.
Speaker 11: He documented everything, It's just what he did. And sure
Speaker 11: he talks about how he burned some of them, meaning
Speaker 11: he didn't want others or you know, people to know
Speaker 11: about what was occurring. But they, you know, documented how
Speaker 11: this area reaked a sulfur and all this stuff. And
Speaker 11: also recently in the Czech Republic they found thirteen thousand
Speaker 11: occult books that the SS and the Dirty Stash had
Speaker 11: hidden in a bunker and amongst all these books. Of course,
Speaker 11: there are all the cursed books that are banned in
Speaker 11: countries and certain religious groups. And man, when you got
Speaker 11: thirteen thousand books that are diving into pretty questionable stuff,
Speaker 11: and then you're showing up in pretty questionable areas consistently,
Speaker 11: I mean, you got at least at some point in
Speaker 11: time figure out something pretty messed up.
Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, indeed. And again it's just you can't even fathom,
Speaker 1: you know, like I would think of our military, you know,
Speaker 1: holding rituals and things, but that probably happens. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are people in the military. Michael Lokuino I think
Speaker 1: he was a colonel or something major general, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: He was heavily steeped in the occult and drew from
Speaker 1: that from a militaristic perspective. So it does go on.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's as prevalent as it was in
Speaker 1: that in the Reich, but we never know. You don't
Speaker 1: know what goes on behind closed doors and in those
Speaker 1: secret chambers, and it could very well be. I mean
Speaker 1: I covered a thing about uh. I think we talked
Speaker 1: about this when I had John talking about dog Man
Speaker 1: about a research project back in the sixties where they
Speaker 1: were trying to control beagles remotely, and then how they
Speaker 1: may have jumped out over into humans and then had
Speaker 1: some sort of K nine human hybrid before they were
Speaker 1: That came about when they were trying to build a
Speaker 1: super soldier, and there's all kinds of stuff we don't
Speaker 1: know about.
Speaker 11: I know, isn't that so crazy?
Speaker 1: My friend?
Speaker 11: It's recently and sorry about that. I thought my phone
Speaker 11: was muted. That's just my own intro lorry right free,
Speaker 11: so you can use any of that. It's just my
Speaker 11: home Star Fox thing. But yeah, no, recently they again
Speaker 11: near a castle Houseka. When people speak about the Berserker
Speaker 11: program and the super Soldiers that the quote unquote they
Speaker 11: were trying to make, well, well they found I believe
Speaker 11: was fifteen German soldiers that had very strange military gear
Speaker 11: on and deformities. And again I don't believe in coincidences,
Speaker 11: nor do these individuals. I mean, why did they all
Speaker 11: have these kind of deformities or what we think are deformities,
Speaker 11: But maybe they were trying to make it so they
Speaker 11: weren't deformities. And again right there, I mean you have
Speaker 11: documents of him talking about trying to make the quote
Speaker 11: unquote super reading program et cetera, where he was trying
Speaker 11: to make like, you know, super humans by you know, sure,
Speaker 11: I'm assuming by means that no different the bodybuilders and
Speaker 11: such do, and maybe other sorts of means. I mean,
Speaker 11: I do know Stalin and such did try to have
Speaker 11: somebody make an ape army. But again, like I've spoken
Speaker 11: about before, I mean, I'm always open to change my mind,
Speaker 11: but as far as I know, with science and things,
Speaker 11: this would occur naturally, and it hasn't. I mean, if
Speaker 11: a chicken can go and mate with an alligator, there
Speaker 11: would be an alligator chicken, but the alligator eats the chicken.
Speaker 11: So yes, numerous times he tried to inciminate women with
Speaker 11: chimpdy in a and vice versa, but it didn't work,
Speaker 11: because yes, it doesn't work like that. But I guess
Speaker 11: they didn't necessarily go on for that long. But Stalin
Speaker 11: quote unquote had seen enough, so apparently he was like, yo,
Speaker 11: this is a waste of my time and assets. But
Speaker 11: either way, again, the dirty Stash and such was into
Speaker 11: things like that. I mean, I do remember a video
Speaker 11: I don't know if it was Russian or German where
Speaker 11: they took the head of a smaller dog and put
Speaker 11: it on a larger dog and vice versa. And they
Speaker 11: also took a dog completely off but hooked it up
Speaker 11: to a machine where that was basically like a heart
Speaker 11: that was still providing oxygen and stuff to the brain.
Speaker 11: And this dog would notice citrus and things and still lick.
Speaker 11: And unfortunately I saw something that the good old boys
Speaker 11: over here had done a point in time with an
Speaker 11: eight same thing, its head off. And man, I mean,
Speaker 11: so this type of occurrence is new, so it is
Speaker 11: very interesting. And then when you find those soldiers, well
Speaker 11: it kind of again ties a little bit more clarity
Speaker 11: into it.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, And I saw a documentary it's
Speaker 1: on YouTube. It's called Madness on the Motorway about these sisters.
Speaker 1: I believe they're twins that were walking along one of
Speaker 1: the motorways in the UK and ended up getting into
Speaker 1: all kinds of trouble. One of them got hit by
Speaker 1: a car and then got up and they were trying
Speaker 1: to fight the police. And I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: watched that. I'll send you a link to it. I
Speaker 1: believe they were part of some kind of super soldier program.
Speaker 1: One of them, I think she jumped off a bridge
Speaker 1: or something. To try to get away. There was a
Speaker 1: guy that took him in that was I think he
Speaker 1: was a retired military and it was theorized that he
Speaker 1: recognized what they were some kind of mk ultra type programming,
Speaker 1: but they were trying to make super soldiers in just
Speaker 1: they absolutely wreaked haaboc and they were from I think
Speaker 1: Sweden or something like that. But it's just the whole
Speaker 1: thing is just absolutely bizarre.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I had heard about that before. That's pretty interesting
Speaker 11: stuff right there.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 11: And also something else too that kind of ties a
Speaker 11: little bit into that is I don't know if you
Speaker 11: ever heard of Robert Businger or Bobby Abusinger from Vador, Texas.
Speaker 1: The name sends man.
Speaker 11: It was in like the late seventies where he now
Speaker 11: is able to talk about it because I guess there
Speaker 11: was some sort of court order where he couldn't speak
Speaker 11: about it for a very long period of time, but
Speaker 11: he in the paper more or less they describe some
Speaker 11: disturbing stuff that occurred. But yeah, he talks about it too,
Speaker 11: and he speaks about how this very large man but
Speaker 11: he seemed animalistic more or less, but it was definitely
Speaker 11: looked like a man ish but he would come to
Speaker 11: this property that Bobby and his wife lived on and
Speaker 11: would howl and would always bang on the side of
Speaker 11: the house so hard that it would knock out the
Speaker 11: ornaments off of paul silver plates down as such. So
Speaker 11: Bobby obviously was getting a little upset with that, but
Speaker 11: was intimidated to go outside and potentially confront this individual.
Speaker 11: So he ends up waiting for it to stop. The
Speaker 11: next day and this had been going on for quite
Speaker 11: a while and he gets a hold of his friend
Speaker 11: who had some really badass I believe they were German
Speaker 11: shepherds and guard dogs. Well, this dude again came back
Speaker 11: and well he tore apart all these dogs and just
Speaker 11: start banging on the house again. Well, finally the police
Speaker 11: did show up and explain to Bobby that they had
Speaker 11: found this individual walking down the middle of the street.
Speaker 11: He was covered in blood, you know, my swiming from
Speaker 11: wound with the dogs, but also the dog's blood. But
Speaker 11: apparently he didn't feel pain more or less and was
Speaker 11: some crazy bodybuilder, but was also in a quote unquote
Speaker 11: insane asylum that he had escaped from. Just interesting, especially
Speaker 11: the fact that when this article first came out that
Speaker 11: the deputies decided to roll with the fact that they
Speaker 11: were pushing it was a werewolf fully, which is interesting.
Speaker 11: Why the heck they would choose that narrative over this,
Speaker 11: But this guy was still describing this dude as being
Speaker 11: animalistic like that, and it's just interesting, like you were saying, potentially,
Speaker 11: you know, because they said to Bobby that he didn't
Speaker 11: feel pain, which there is some disease for that, which
Speaker 11: is interesting, But that's pretty gnarly stuff. Again. I mean,
Speaker 11: if you got somebody that's not feeling pain and it's
Speaker 11: capable of doing massive amounts of destruction like that dude.
Speaker 11: He was hitting his house so hard, dishes were falling
Speaker 11: over and it wasn't bothering him. I mean, if that
Speaker 11: dude came inside, what the heck was Bobby gonna do
Speaker 11: and his wife unless they got it headshot. That's just
Speaker 11: completely unlive that guy. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's frightening to think about, But I think there's
Speaker 1: something to all that. There's all kinds of genetic experiments
Speaker 1: and DNA programming and things like that that go on
Speaker 1: that we have very little knowledge of, and if anybody
Speaker 1: tries to shine a light on it, then you're a
Speaker 1: tenfoil hatter or a conspiracy theorist, and you know, a conspiracy,
Speaker 1: all that means is two or more people conspired together
Speaker 1: to do something that they probably weren't supposed to do.
Speaker 1: So I like studying those conspiracies. Now. Some of them
Speaker 1: are off the wall bizarre stuff, but there's certain ones
Speaker 1: that I kind of buy into. I think some of
Speaker 1: them are conspiracy theories, but some of them will turn
Speaker 1: out to be conspiracy fact And because I know stuff
Speaker 1: that I've heard, have people come at me and so, well,
Speaker 1: that's just a conspiracy theory. But I know that it's
Speaker 1: not like Operation Peppercliff. We were talking about Germany there
Speaker 1: after the war. They brought a bunch of sciences over
Speaker 1: here and put them to work. And somebody say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's just that didn't really happen, But it did. My
Speaker 1: dad worked laboratory, yeah, and he worked right alongside some
Speaker 1: of those guys. And I've told the story about how
Speaker 1: I went home with a kid from school had a
Speaker 1: very German last name. My dad worked with his dad
Speaker 1: at the National Laboratory. Well, we're playing in the basement.
Speaker 1: They had a wreck room that was a big thing
Speaker 1: back in the seventies as a basement of Rancher house
Speaker 1: and he went to the back while he said, Steve Khmerre,
Speaker 1: I want to show you something. And he pushes the
Speaker 1: wall and it starts opening up, and I'm thinking, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a bomb shelter. We didn't have one, but I
Speaker 1: knew kids did. That was a Cold war thing. Everybody
Speaker 1: had a bomb shelter like that would really do you
Speaker 1: any good. But I thought, okay, he's going to show
Speaker 1: me his bomb shelter. Well, he opens it up, he
Speaker 1: flicks on the light. The florescence click on in Starfox.
Speaker 1: It was one of the biggest private collections of Nazi
Speaker 1: war member bilia that I've ever seen, assembled into this
Speaker 1: room back there, and he had an SS uniform in
Speaker 1: a like a plexi last case that I'm looking at
Speaker 1: that and said, wow, your dad really is into his
Speaker 1: war memberabilia. And he said, you don't understand. He said
Speaker 1: that was his uniform. So there you go. Conspiracy facts there.
Speaker 1: Operation Paperclip was very very real and now they know it,
Speaker 1: but there was a time when it wasn't.
Speaker 11: That's great stuff right there, and no, I was just
Speaker 11: gonna say that's all documented. I mean, people can look
Speaker 11: at it and check it all out, man. I mean,
Speaker 11: to me, a conspiracy is something that has nothing to
Speaker 11: back it up. But I mean, when you can see
Speaker 11: I'm going to butcher his name. But Eric Truth came
Speaker 11: over and worked on Plumb Island. I mean that guy
Speaker 11: was in charge of putting people. Don't realize lime disease
Speaker 11: has always been something that is inside a tics. Okay,
Speaker 11: it's been detected way back in prehistoric times. But what
Speaker 11: he did is he was able to amplify that and
Speaker 11: put that into basically like a hybrid type tick.
Speaker 1: Now, no way to weaponize it. See, that's what our
Speaker 1: society does, discovery. How can we weaponize it hard? You
Speaker 1: know I was even guilty of that as a kid.
Speaker 1: I I'm going to tell on myself. Hey, this is
Speaker 1: kind of humorous, but I said, my dad, you know,
Speaker 1: was part of the war machine. He worked at the
Speaker 1: National Laboratory before that, he was involved with the Manhattan Project. Well,
Speaker 1: I had an idea, and I'm just going to use
Speaker 1: the word fart here. If anybody's offended, I apologize. I
Speaker 1: was wondering how I had a scientific mind deal because
Speaker 1: of my dad. So I was wondering as a child.
Speaker 1: I was about six years old, maybe seven. I thought,
Speaker 1: I wonder if you could freeze a fart, So I
Speaker 1: captured one in a mana Is jar. My mom was
Speaker 1: always saving jars form because I had a little natural
Speaker 1: history museum and an old chicken coop outside, and I'd
Speaker 1: put you know, animal skeletons and stuff like that in jars. Well,
Speaker 1: I captured fart. I'll leave that to everybody's imagination how
Speaker 1: I did that, and put it into the freezer. And
Speaker 1: I had another jar, so I captured another one, and
Speaker 1: I left the lid kind of loose, and I took
Speaker 1: it to my dad and I'm just all innocent, like, daddy,
Speaker 1: can you get the lid off this? And I knew
Speaker 1: what he'd do, you know. He pulled it right up
Speaker 1: under his chin and gave it a big twist. Course
Speaker 1: the lid blew right off, and he got a strange
Speaker 1: look on his face and he shoved it back and
Speaker 1: he said, you get out of here with that. And
Speaker 1: then a little bit later he comes in.
Speaker 12: You know what he did.
Speaker 1: He farted in a Manai's jar and handed it to me,
Speaker 1: and like a dummy, I opened it up and my
Speaker 1: mom turns and stairs right at me, and she said,
Speaker 1: what's in that jar, that's the freezer. So that ended
Speaker 1: my experiment. But that was my idea. If we could
Speaker 1: freeze him, we could weaponiz Imagine on the battlefield you
Speaker 1: drop frozen farts from twenty thousand feet, you know, when
Speaker 1: they hit everybody, Oh my god.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 1: So my own version of a gas attack. Literally, I
Speaker 1: had a strange childhood. My mom is from Appalachia. Kate's
Speaker 1: Kobert the smoke. He's very superstitious. My grandmother on that
Speaker 1: side was a gypsy witch. She called herself a granny witch,
Speaker 1: they call him. And then my dad, you know, highly educated,
Speaker 1: a man of science. So there I was the perfect
Speaker 1: blend of science and superstition, sprang forth bewildered. I had
Speaker 1: the best of the worst of both worlds. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's but yeah, that's just the thing, you know, And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are that way, not children,
Speaker 1: but everybody. You know, how can we weaponize this? How
Speaker 1: can we use this to force our way on people?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, and it's not what he to weaponized,
Speaker 11: But I'm laughing at your reference as the weaponization right there,
Speaker 11: And no, it's true. It's just the way things you know,
Speaker 11: tend to work in that aspect. So now it's super interesting,
Speaker 11: but it's just the way things work. So Eric Truth
Speaker 11: would just put insects that were infected inside of the
Speaker 11: forest that obviously anyone that was coming in to try
Speaker 11: to overthrow the SS would be infected by They were
Speaker 11: claiming that to villagers that needed food and such. They
Speaker 11: were dropping in like clothing that was infected and all
Speaker 11: kinds of things. So I mean, we brought him over
Speaker 11: here because when the Russians went in and we went in,
Speaker 11: well we were a little bit nicer in what we offered.
Speaker 11: The Russians were like, yo, you come with us, or
Speaker 11: your head's on the floor more or less than everyone
Speaker 11: you know is just no longer. We were like, all right,
Speaker 11: you come with us.
Speaker 1: We're going to wipe your war crimes.
Speaker 11: So I mean, also, another member of the SS's top
Speaker 11: astrophysicists was a big part in our venture into outer
Speaker 11: space and also with NASA. So I mean, to me,
Speaker 11: those aren't conspiracy theories because there are files that back
Speaker 11: that all up. So I mean, if it was just
Speaker 11: a one sided perspective of an individual saying that, then
Speaker 11: sure always questionable. But when you see all the facts
Speaker 11: that backed that all up. I mean, it's no longer questionable.
Speaker 11: I mean it's presented as evidence, right, Yeah, And you.
Speaker 1: Know some of the stuff that's come to light, if
Speaker 1: that stuff they actually did. How much stuff is out
Speaker 1: there that's hidden away, that's in you know, the Black
Speaker 1: Beault or wherever that is still kept under lock and key,
Speaker 1: or the documents that have been redacted, maybe a word
Speaker 1: or two left on them. Strange strange times that we
Speaker 1: live in, my friend, Yeah, isn't that the truth?
Speaker 11: I mean, as I said, it's great with some of
Speaker 11: the things, but then you're just like, wow, what the hecks?
Speaker 11: I mean, in general, I love to learn, so I'm
Speaker 11: always trying to learn. I mean, but there's obviously darker
Speaker 11: points in time, like yeah, do I agree with anything
Speaker 11: that the SS and all them did? Of course not.
Speaker 11: But from a person that likes to learn. When I
Speaker 11: look at like how advanced some of their weaponry was
Speaker 11: and stuff, it's fascinating how that was created. I mean,
Speaker 11: how if you look at the differences. I mean, we
Speaker 11: had these little turty tanks, but they had these huge
Speaker 11: tigers that would come out and demolish them. But yes,
Speaker 11: of course we figured out. You could put rocks and
Speaker 11: logs under there that get stuck up in there, and
Speaker 11: you can blow them up with rocket launchers. We had
Speaker 11: pretty cool battleships. They had massive battleships. I mean, learning
Speaker 11: all that and actually stepping back and realizing the way
Speaker 11: Normandy was set up and such, and how this country
Speaker 11: that's not even what the size of Texas, give or take,
Speaker 11: was almost able to overtake the whole world. I mean,
Speaker 11: it just shows you genius or madman. That guy was both.
Speaker 11: I mean, how do you do all that? And how
Speaker 11: advanced are you? But then you see the insanity, And
Speaker 11: that's what people say with genius insanity, it's how do
Speaker 11: you walk at cocky confident? You know, it's a very
Speaker 11: thin line, because imagine if he took everything he did
Speaker 11: for a positive thing, what he could have created. I mean,
Speaker 11: the Auto Bond, Mercedes, the Volkswagen, those were all created
Speaker 11: by him. I'm not saying those things were created for
Speaker 11: good purposes, but those are things that actually are used
Speaker 11: still in modern day times as I guess, potentially positive
Speaker 11: things I mean, etcetera. So imagine if, like I said,
Speaker 11: they put all that energy to good things, but they
Speaker 11: didn't they put it towards mass weapons of destruction. But
Speaker 11: if they weren't smart, how the heck did they all
Speaker 11: do that? It took almost the whole world to stop them,
Speaker 11: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's uh, you know, like the Tuskegee experiment,
Speaker 1: things like that, But that was the whole impetus behind
Speaker 1: Operation paper Clippers, Like, well, we can take these guys
Speaker 1: and prosecute his war criminals, execute him or whatever, or
Speaker 1: we can quietly put them to work in our facil
Speaker 1: these an oak Ridge and lost almost places like that
Speaker 1: Montauk and picked their brains literally see what they know
Speaker 1: that we don't, and use that for our own good,
Speaker 1: for our own advancements. And I see the thinking behind it.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it. I
Speaker 1: just don't have an opinion on it, because how do
Speaker 1: he you know, how could you? You can't really justify it.
Speaker 1: But that's that was the thinking behind it anyway. But
Speaker 1: you know, that weaponizing things, that's I mean, even before that,
Speaker 1: it was like during the times when in the West,
Speaker 1: you know, when they fought the wars against indigenous people,
Speaker 1: they infected blankets with smallpox and gave them to them,
Speaker 1: you know, it was just there's nothing new. People are
Speaker 1: I mean and you know, war as hell. That's that's true,
Speaker 1: and people are mean to one to know that. I
Speaker 1: heard somebody say one time, if you can figure out
Speaker 1: how to have a war and not hurt anybody, then
Speaker 1: let's do that. But you know, sadly, that's that's just
Speaker 1: the way it goes. I prefer peace. I'm peaceful first,
Speaker 1: and peace loving person. Slow and like you, I'm not
Speaker 1: religious at all, but I'm very spiritual.
Speaker 11: Yes, good vibes, dude. Just people want to call me
Speaker 11: a tree hugger or whatever. Did I'm with you, man,
Speaker 11: I just try to put out good vibes to learn
Speaker 11: and just be a very good individualist. I couldn't agree
Speaker 11: with all that more, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you look at that from a biblical perspective,
Speaker 1: Jesus didn't go to church. The only time Jesus was
Speaker 1: ever in the temple, he was either there to educate
Speaker 1: the elders or to chase out the money lenders. I
Speaker 1: heard somebody say, the devil goes to church and he
Speaker 1: sits on the front piew.
Speaker 11: So there you go, right, yes again, pret right there.
Speaker 11: That's just all excellent stuff, for sure.
Speaker 1: And I've seen some of the worst fights and some
Speaker 1: of the nastiness come out of people in a church fight.
Speaker 1: That's one of the ugliest things I've ever seen is
Speaker 1: a church fight when the church is divided in one
Speaker 1: side against the other. Went through that with one of
Speaker 1: my brothers church. I mean, people were making death threats
Speaker 1: and stuff, and these are church people. You need to
Speaker 1: go back and start over.
Speaker 11: That's like back in correct me if I'm wrong? What
Speaker 11: was it the what was the Civil War? Was it?
Speaker 12: Right?
Speaker 11: You had some that were brothers and sisters that were
Speaker 11: just literally on the opposite sides going up against each other.
Speaker 11: And I mean, I can't stay in politics and such
Speaker 11: and all that, but I mean the same thing they
Speaker 11: I went up in high school to the state part
Speaker 11: where you know, they would have representatives whatever. They don't
Speaker 11: even sit on the same side as each other. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 11: wait a second, you know, you guys can't sit on
Speaker 11: the same side of the room, et cetera. So I
Speaker 11: just think it's one of those things that unfortunately, in
Speaker 11: a perfect mind, in a perfect world, like the whole
Speaker 11: consensus of you know, America and the melting pot. That's beautiful,
Speaker 11: But in reality so hard to take people that have
Speaker 11: different mindsets. I mean, it's no different than when I
Speaker 11: go to a brewin game. I'm Bruins fan. I don't
Speaker 11: act like this, but I mean I've seen Bruins fans
Speaker 11: just literally almost get to the point of where I'm like, yo,
Speaker 11: chill out.
Speaker 1: Where they're like South America, they've had wars over soccer games.
Speaker 11: Over soccer games, dude, it's like yo, chill out, man. Yes.
Speaker 1: And then in Great Britain, you know, they have the
Speaker 1: hooliganism where they're those guys are serious about their football
Speaker 1: what they call soccer. So just I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: get I remember going to high school games and making
Speaker 1: a mistake of sitting in the long wrong bleachers. You know,
Speaker 1: what are you doing over here? Over there? You know
Speaker 1: you have the home side on those side, it's just
Speaker 1: divide and conquered. That's that's the key to uh, to
Speaker 1: anything like that. And that's that's kind of where we
Speaker 1: are now as the nation. I think, and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: as a political as you can get left wing right wing.
Speaker 1: To me, it's just two wings on the same dirty bird.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 11: And then yes, me too, bro. It's so true with you.
Speaker 11: And actually I know you got to get going here.
Speaker 11: But another thing that might blow your mind, and I
Speaker 11: you know, suggest you look into, suggestion never go there.
Speaker 11: But there is an island that I don't know if
Speaker 11: it was in the fifties or sixties, where we decided
Speaker 11: it was great to take chimpanzees, which are not supposed
Speaker 11: to be on islands and can't swim, and we decided
Speaker 11: to inject them with all kinds of messed up things
Speaker 11: like hepatitis and all these diseases, and we put them
Speaker 11: on this island. And still to this day they're there.
Speaker 11: And I mean, how that's even legal, I don't know,
Speaker 11: But come on, like, how can someone do that to
Speaker 11: something that is so similar? I mean even if it
Speaker 11: wasn't similar to an animal, Like, how can you do that?
Speaker 11: Yet it is done. I mean I don't know if
Speaker 11: they're still actively researching it, but it's still there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and that doesn't surprise me. I mean there's
Speaker 1: and how much more stuff is there like that? I mean,
Speaker 1: this is what you hear about, This is what lakes
Speaker 1: out maybe only two or three people know about and
Speaker 1: they ain't talking and said, you know, my dad out
Speaker 1: there at the National Laboratory. There was all kinds. There
Speaker 1: was stuff that he wouldn't talk about long and long
Speaker 1: after he was retired. I mean he was in two
Speaker 1: days away from his eighty second birthday when he passed
Speaker 1: away in two thousand and three. But there was stuff
Speaker 1: that he still just would not talk about. And I
Speaker 1: get it. I mean, of course he was afraid he'd
Speaker 1: lose his pinch and his insurance and all that. But again,
Speaker 1: they drilled that into you. I mean Oakridge where I
Speaker 1: grew up, or just outside there in Knox County, but
Speaker 1: was in Oakridge a lot, and they'd have you know,
Speaker 1: big billboards of you know, you don't know who's listening,
Speaker 1: things like that, and it was just hammered into you that,
Speaker 1: you know, there's just stuff you don't talk about. And
Speaker 1: I heard stories when Oakridge was the Secret City that
Speaker 1: there was a place announced known as Jackson Square but
Speaker 1: back then was known as Townsite where they were having
Speaker 1: a dance and there was a guy and a girl
Speaker 1: that had met there and were dancing in the I
Speaker 1: kind of talked a little bit about just whispered in
Speaker 1: this girl's ear or what he was doing next Monday
Speaker 1: when they called him, and when he came to work,
Speaker 1: they called him on the carpet and said, you're not
Speaker 1: supposed to be talking about that. So either she was
Speaker 1: set up, set him up to be a rat, or
Speaker 1: somebody overheard, or the loss have ears or something. And
Speaker 1: it's that old saying that three can keep a secret
Speaker 1: if two of them are dead. I believe that's true.
Speaker 11: All right, And that's kind of ironical you because I
Speaker 11: remember growing up. He doesn't do it anymore, but one
Speaker 11: of my cousins was a he's forensic detective, and I
Speaker 11: just remember him always telling me there's three sides to
Speaker 11: a story.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean, bro?
Speaker 11: Because I was like fifteen. I'm like, there's myself and
Speaker 11: the other person, so that's two. He's like, no, three,
Speaker 11: And then he explained that your side, their side, and
Speaker 11: then the truth. So yes, it's definitely a very accurate ads.
Speaker 1: That you have to tread sometimes. As my dad used
Speaker 1: to say, you can have your own opinions, but you
Speaker 1: can't have your own.
Speaker 11: Facts, see exactly. And that's so funny because I just
Speaker 11: feel like so many people, when you try to present facts,
Speaker 11: they're like, oh, there's just fairy tales. Go back to
Speaker 11: your fairy tales, and it's just so funny too. I
Speaker 11: feel like that individuals that think they're smart but actually
Speaker 11: aren't smart. When you present things, they then call you
Speaker 11: the idiots and they get so upset, and it's just like, well,
Speaker 11: we're talking about facts here, But now I'm with you,
Speaker 11: my friend.
Speaker 1: And the people that will hear a theory, no matter
Speaker 1: how half baked, that sounds sort of halfway scientific and
Speaker 1: then accept that as gospel truth. I've covered the sailing
Speaker 1: stones from race Track play in Death Valley. Well, the
Speaker 1: theory is that a thin cod of water covers the
Speaker 1: dry lake bed there, the wind blows moves those stones along,
Speaker 1: and then it thaws out and that's how it laves
Speaker 1: those trailsmen. But that's just a theory that's never been proven.
Speaker 1: A video about Death Valley talked about that, and so
Speaker 1: many people said, Oh, it's just ice and the wind.
Speaker 1: There's no proof. It's a theory. I'd like to see
Speaker 1: some proof. There's not any. But it's a good theory.
Speaker 1: But that's all it is.
Speaker 11: Right, No, that's great stuff, and I always feel like
Speaker 11: people have issues with that. I mean, you know, kind
Speaker 11: of as we're wrapping this up. That's like in Antarctica,
Speaker 11: I believe it was or something like that that they believe.
Speaker 1: They don't want to accept the supernatural that can't be possible.
Speaker 11: Right, right, And then sometimes too, unfortunately, I feel like
Speaker 11: people don't like to accept the science either, you know
Speaker 11: what I mean. It's like a catch twenty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because those that deny science and again you know
Speaker 1: it's it's theories, but there's a scientific basis, yes, and
Speaker 1: you can test it out. But even again here my
Speaker 1: dad Ophridge, National Laboratory scientists, he would say sometimes there
Speaker 1: were things that occurred under controlled laboratory conditions that they
Speaker 1: couldn't replicate, an anomalous event that irreproducible result that they
Speaker 1: just could not explain, and they again there was no
Speaker 1: explanation for it. But he said, sometimes things just knew
Speaker 1: what they want to do, regardless of what there's what
Speaker 1: science as they're supposed to do.
Speaker 11: Yes, exactly. And you know, kind of a great example
Speaker 11: too is like I said, I you know, we got
Speaker 11: to let you go. But in Antarctica there looks to
Speaker 11: be like what some people want to say, was a
Speaker 11: flying saucer that crashed? Okay, could it be yes, it
Speaker 11: very well could be, But then other people have very
Speaker 11: valid points of how if a piece of ice which
Speaker 11: does fall from one of the glaciers up there, it
Speaker 11: would fall a pretty large distance then would start rolling
Speaker 11: from the impact, and very much so could also be that.
Speaker 11: So it could be either, And until someone can actually
Speaker 11: go there to show that, then you're not We're not
Speaker 11: going to know. But then the people that love the
Speaker 11: supernatural are like, no, there's no way that happened. But yeah,
Speaker 11: sure nature doesn't either reason for that to happen it.
Speaker 11: Nature doesn't need a reason for a leave to go
Speaker 11: from green to red before it falls and no longer exists.
Speaker 11: We want to make it a reason.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. It's like I used to hear
Speaker 1: in school that a doctor here's a hoof mats, he
Speaker 1: things horse, but at first your medical student thinks zebra.
Speaker 1: Sometimes there are certain people that just want to look
Speaker 1: for the most obscure, strangest thing. But usually, like Sherlock
Speaker 1: Holmes said, you know, it's it's the most common. Is
Speaker 1: probably your answer. Exactly. You eliminated everything else, no matter
Speaker 1: how impossible or improbable. What's left is the truth.
Speaker 11: Brilliant man, and I totally agree with all that too.
Speaker 11: You know, we just got to start with the logical
Speaker 11: stuff first, man, and then we can proceed to some
Speaker 11: of the ideological stuff. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Well we're going to have to close this off here
Speaker 1: tonight's star Fucks, But I want to thank you once
Speaker 1: again for joining me here on everything out there on
Speaker 1: the Clyde LUs Ground zero Radio network. Tell the people
Speaker 1: where they can find you.
Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely my friend, and I look forward to seeing
Speaker 11: you by weekly. I talk to you all the time
Speaker 11: too as well. So long story short is, just go
Speaker 11: on YouTube and it's all under lowercase words star Fucks
Speaker 11: Underscore Radio, and you will be brought to my page.
Speaker 11: You can't miss it. And I do have playlists set
Speaker 11: up so if you have favorite hosts that are on there,
Speaker 11: such as Steve, then you can just click on all those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll put a link to that in the
Speaker 1: show notes. And as he stated there, I'm going to
Speaker 1: start being on his show bi weekly on.
Speaker 11: Wednesday nights.
Speaker 1: Wednesday nights, we're doing it live, right.
Speaker 11: Actually, no, we're just gonna do the recording and get
Speaker 11: it out there. It'll be coming out the following day.
Speaker 1: So yeah, even better. All right, brother, well again, thank
Speaker 1: you for being here. I'm going to get on out
Speaker 1: of here on behalf of star Fucks and myself. We'll
Speaker 1: see you further on down the trail. Terry animals, we
Speaker 1: said hi, good night, everybody.
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