WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:00.960
<v Speaker 2>KRC the talk station.

2
00:00:01.159 --> 00:00:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Happy Tuesday always made it extra special because now it's

3
00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the time we get a Daniel Davis deep dive retired

4
00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis. Always a distinct pleasure to have

5
00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you on the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Sir, welcome back.

6
00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me. Brian.

7
00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Always a treasure to be here. I appreciate that, and

8
00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy our conversations. Very enlightening and of course sometimes

9
00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:23.239
<v Speaker 1>a bit sobering, most notably for those folks who continue

10
00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:25.519
<v Speaker 1>to want to support Ukraine in the face of what

11
00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:27.440
<v Speaker 1>appears to be growing disaster.

12
00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:28.399
<v Speaker 2>I see.

13
00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:34.320
<v Speaker 1>First sentence of this Russian forces conquer large Dontesk stronghold.

14
00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:38.799
<v Speaker 1>Russian Federation forces have unstoppable momentum in the Dawnask region,

15
00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:41.560
<v Speaker 1>with a string of victories and the noticeable weaking of

16
00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the Ukrainian defenses. One Swiss paper Noya Zich Zaeitung, the

17
00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:50.759
<v Speaker 1>military situation in eastern Ukraine has deteriorated sharply. Defense lines

18
00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:55.119
<v Speaker 1>have collapsed in various parts of the front. I struggle

19
00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:58.280
<v Speaker 1>to find really any good news for the Ukrainians at

20
00:00:58.280 --> 00:00:59.039
<v Speaker 1>this moment in time.

21
00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's not any. On the battlefield.

22
00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.920
<v Speaker 3>I can assure you that because concurrent with that information

23
00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:09.840
<v Speaker 3>there's also reports from the Ukraine side from their minister

24
00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:13.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, from their Forstar General Serski, the guy in

25
00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:17.519
<v Speaker 3>charge of their own forces, that they're saying, hey, we're

26
00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:20.560
<v Speaker 3>not recruiting enough people even to meet losses. So the

27
00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:23.200
<v Speaker 3>number of losses they have per month is not offset

28
00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:25.439
<v Speaker 3>by the new people coming in. And what that tells you,

29
00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:27.760
<v Speaker 3>aside from just that it's the numbers the net net

30
00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.519
<v Speaker 3>is shrinking, it also tells you that they every time

31
00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:33.000
<v Speaker 3>they get somebody with some experience, they get killed or

32
00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:34.640
<v Speaker 3>taken off the battlefield and they come in with the

33
00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:38.359
<v Speaker 3>fresh so they are constantly getting rid of all their experience.

34
00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:41.400
<v Speaker 3>At the same time, you also have new reports that

35
00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:47.640
<v Speaker 3>two additional brigades that newly formed brigades one was trained

36
00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:52.040
<v Speaker 3>in France and one seven hundred people fled the battlefield

37
00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:54.640
<v Speaker 3>before they even left and got to the front. Then

38
00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:57.560
<v Speaker 3>they had another one on one fifty seventh brigade just

39
00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:01.239
<v Speaker 3>this week also collapsed and went away before it even

40
00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:04.239
<v Speaker 3>got to the front. So there's two new formations of

41
00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:07.799
<v Speaker 3>the less than they're getting for replacements are falling apart.

42
00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:09.840
<v Speaker 3>And then they fired a lot of these committee, they

43
00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:12.319
<v Speaker 3>fired the ground forces commander for the Eastern Front.

44
00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:14.199
<v Speaker 2>You see, the wheels are literally.

45
00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Coming off, and the question is how much longer can

46
00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:19.280
<v Speaker 3>they continue to function as a coherent unit.

47
00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:21.840
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think it's that much longer, Well that

48
00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:26.159
<v Speaker 2>much longer a months, weeks? How long is this gonna lae?

49
00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:29.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean at some point that there's going to be

50
00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:32.240
<v Speaker 1>east an absolute collapse, and an absolute then I would

51
00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:35.800
<v Speaker 1>argue perhaps Russian victory across the board, or they're going

52
00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to be forced to sit down a negotiation table and

53
00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:40.319
<v Speaker 1>seed some of their land to get it resolved.

54
00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:44.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's exactly the issue here. So you have a

55
00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:46.520
<v Speaker 3>couple of different possibilities. One is like what happened to

56
00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:50.919
<v Speaker 3>the Germans in World War Two. They were just methodically

57
00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.599
<v Speaker 3>just pushed all the way to the west by the

58
00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Soviet Union and they just continued to crumble, but they

59
00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:00.560
<v Speaker 3>stayed at least coherent all the way through. The losses

60
00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.479
<v Speaker 3>got bigger, got the losses got faster toward the end,

61
00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:05.879
<v Speaker 3>but they just continued on until literally they just.

62
00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Cease to exist in Berlin.

63
00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:10.439
<v Speaker 3>Or you have what happened to the British and French

64
00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:13.520
<v Speaker 3>in May nineteen forty, where the Germans, then on the

65
00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:17.439
<v Speaker 3>positive side, broke through the lines, got in the back

66
00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:20.080
<v Speaker 3>of their defenses and then the whole thing just collapsed.

67
00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:23.240
<v Speaker 3>So overnight you had the entire army collapse. And so

68
00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.159
<v Speaker 3>either of those two things are possible. Both are bad

69
00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:29.400
<v Speaker 3>for Ukraine. Both are bad for Ukraine.

70
00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Now with this, I would argue, anyxt maybe you should

71
00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.000
<v Speaker 1>call it this way. This positive momentum the Russians are

72
00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:41.840
<v Speaker 1>currently enjoying, does that suggest to you they're less likely

73
00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to want to sit down and negotiate a resolution of it.

74
00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:46.159
<v Speaker 3>Do you think they're just going to keep at it? Well,

75
00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:49.360
<v Speaker 3>this is the reality. They are definitely willing to have

76
00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:51.800
<v Speaker 3>a negotiated settlement. They have been emphatic about that from

77
00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:55.080
<v Speaker 3>the beginning. They're emphatic about it right now. But that's

78
00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:57.000
<v Speaker 3>not the same thing that may be in the mind

79
00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.439
<v Speaker 3>of Trump or his supporters, which is that they think

80
00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:01.680
<v Speaker 3>that they can negotiate a good deal at the current

81
00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:04.280
<v Speaker 3>line of contact that's going to be good for Zelensky

82
00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:07.360
<v Speaker 3>and good for Kiev. That's just not in the cards,

83
00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:10.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm afraid, Brian. What he's saying the Russian side is

84
00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:13.039
<v Speaker 3>saying we'll negotiate for all the land that we want,

85
00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:15.879
<v Speaker 3>which means land you haven't lost in battle yet, all

86
00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:20.079
<v Speaker 3>of the administrative orders of those four provinces, and if

87
00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:22.240
<v Speaker 3>they don't get those, and that of course that also

88
00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:25.319
<v Speaker 3>includes and plads that Zelensky has to go.

89
00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:26.319
<v Speaker 2>That's actually part of it.

90
00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:28.680
<v Speaker 3>They said they won't sign a deal with him because

91
00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.920
<v Speaker 3>he's exceeded his mandate and they said he's not legitimate.

92
00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:33.399
<v Speaker 2>We need you guys to have an election.

93
00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:36.000
<v Speaker 3>So there's somebody that we can negotiate or sign a

94
00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:36.560
<v Speaker 3>deal with.

95
00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:37.920
<v Speaker 2>And there has to.

96
00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:41.399
<v Speaker 3>Be, of course, a declaration of no NATO, no troops,

97
00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:44.759
<v Speaker 3>no peacekeeping troops, none of that stuff, or they'll just

98
00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:46.319
<v Speaker 3>keep fighting until they win it.

99
00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:49.879
<v Speaker 1>All right, And that's because they all the negotiation ships

100
00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:52.639
<v Speaker 1>on their side right now. Now, to those out there

101
00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:55.199
<v Speaker 1>that think this is a battle that's worth continuing to

102
00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.800
<v Speaker 1>wage and somehow magically Ukraine's going to be able to

103
00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:01.639
<v Speaker 1>bounce back and defend themselves, what do you perceive any

104
00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:05.000
<v Speaker 1>existential threat or other threat to NATO or the European

105
00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Union generally speaking, if Russia ends up taking over Ukraine completely.

106
00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.360
<v Speaker 3>No, and that's what's been said, really from the outset

107
00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:15.240
<v Speaker 3>of this war from the West, if they keep saying,

108
00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:16.079
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, if.

109
00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:17.839
<v Speaker 2>We don't stop him here, he'll come and roll here.

110
00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:21.800
<v Speaker 3>No, there's the Russians don't have the capacity in my view,

111
00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:23.839
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they don't even have the capacity if they

112
00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:24.639
<v Speaker 3>had the desire.

113
00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:26.639
<v Speaker 2>They don't have the capacity.

114
00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:30.279
<v Speaker 3>To launch into a war in you in NATO because

115
00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:33.279
<v Speaker 3>they know it doesn't even matter so much whether they're military.

116
00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:36.399
<v Speaker 3>They're conventional military could defeat the West, and probably in

117
00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:38.560
<v Speaker 3>the Baltics they could because the Russian army is now

118
00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:42.040
<v Speaker 3>because we didn't end this early. Instead of the about

119
00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.279
<v Speaker 3>one million it was in February twenty twenty two, it's

120
00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:47.560
<v Speaker 3>now it's one point five million active duty troops now,

121
00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:52.079
<v Speaker 3>troops that are sustained, they're trained, they've got the lot

122
00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:55.240
<v Speaker 3>of combat experience, and their industrial capacity behind them is

123
00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:58.160
<v Speaker 3>like a juggernaut. But they understand that if they go

124
00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:00.720
<v Speaker 3>into NATO now, then you have Article five issues in

125
00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:04.399
<v Speaker 3>three nuclear powers on the other side that could come

126
00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:06.920
<v Speaker 3>into play, and Russia's not gonna want to say, hey,

127
00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:09.480
<v Speaker 3>we fought this whole war to get security on our

128
00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:11.680
<v Speaker 3>western flank and then we're going to take action that

129
00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:14.720
<v Speaker 3>almost certainly would precipitate a nuclear response from the other side.

130
00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:16.319
<v Speaker 3>They're not going to do that because it's not in

131
00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:18.560
<v Speaker 3>their interest to do so, not because we have to

132
00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:20.959
<v Speaker 3>trust them or anything else, it's just not in their interest.

133
00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:22.399
<v Speaker 2>So if we bring.

134
00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:25.120
<v Speaker 3>This to an end, then all this stuff gets off

135
00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.160
<v Speaker 3>the table, and there's this ugly business of reconstruction and

136
00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:31.000
<v Speaker 3>world that's gonna go. It's going to linger for a generation.

137
00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:34.199
<v Speaker 3>But better to start that now than later on.

138
00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:35.120
<v Speaker 2>With even more death.

139
00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:37.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, and I just have to observe it's

140
00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:41.279
<v Speaker 1>taking Russia this long to get as far as they

141
00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:45.199
<v Speaker 1>did in one single country. So compare that exactly the

142
00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:48.040
<v Speaker 1>entire might of the United States and the entire NATO countries.

143
00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:51.000
<v Speaker 1>So I concur with your assessment on that as much

144
00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.879
<v Speaker 1>tea leaf reading as we can do pivoting over your

145
00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I like, generally speaking, Pete Heegsas's message, which is we

146
00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:02.680
<v Speaker 1>are going to establish a military fighting force. Donald Trump's

147
00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:04.720
<v Speaker 1>not an executive order getting rid of DEI and I

148
00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:06.480
<v Speaker 1>have no idea what that has to do with killing

149
00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.319
<v Speaker 1>people and breaking things, But I have a more optimistic

150
00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:11.920
<v Speaker 1>positive view of the direction of America's military With Pete

151
00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Pete Hegsath at the realm and the getting rid of

152
00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:16.480
<v Speaker 1>DEI what's your perception on that one?

153
00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, in the like the eleventh hour, just

154
00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:22.199
<v Speaker 3>before the vote was taken, there was a number there

155
00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:24.839
<v Speaker 3>was senate debate and some of those who were against

156
00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:26.759
<v Speaker 3>him were saying, look, there was why do you have

157
00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:28.319
<v Speaker 3>to go up to this guy that's never been in

158
00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:31.040
<v Speaker 3>charge of a big company. H He wasn't a general,

159
00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:32.720
<v Speaker 3>so he wasn't in charge of a lot of troops.

160
00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.240
<v Speaker 3>He was only a major and that was relatively low

161
00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:38.079
<v Speaker 3>level in terms of the hierarchy of the army. And

162
00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:40.680
<v Speaker 3>they said, why wouldn't you go after somebody that that's

163
00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.639
<v Speaker 3>in the Republican Party, that's like has been, you know,

164
00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:45.920
<v Speaker 3>in all of these kinds of categories. And they said,

165
00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:49.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, like Mark Esper or like James Mattis. You know,

166
00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:51.600
<v Speaker 3>those are the guys they had these past ninety eight

167
00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:54.879
<v Speaker 3>to two, etc. And I'm liking, Okay, that's the last

168
00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:56.920
<v Speaker 3>thing that we need right now. Those are status quo

169
00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:00.240
<v Speaker 3>guys that don't want to change anything, that were very unsuccess.

170
00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:05.240
<v Speaker 3>You may remember James Mattison actually left office and because

171
00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:07.680
<v Speaker 3>he had a tantrum that Trump wanted to withdraw our

172
00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:10.800
<v Speaker 3>troops from Syria, so he resigned over that.

173
00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:12.000
<v Speaker 2>So he pushed back.

174
00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.959
<v Speaker 3>Not only would he not support the president, he didn't

175
00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:17.680
<v Speaker 3>have the foresight to see that that's not in America's interest, right,

176
00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:20.360
<v Speaker 3>that's not the person. We need, somebody from the status

177
00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:22.639
<v Speaker 3>quo who's been in the defense industry and all this

178
00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:24.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff. We need somebody with some fresh thinking.

179
00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Now Hegseith doesn't come in with a great view. I mean,

180
00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:31.000
<v Speaker 3>he's got some genuine skeletons in his closet and that

181
00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:32.279
<v Speaker 3>has to be considered.

182
00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:34.799
<v Speaker 2>But his focus and what he's saying.

183
00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:36.240
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, and I give him. I'm going to give him

184
00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:38.440
<v Speaker 3>the benefit of the doubt and give him a chance

185
00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:40.600
<v Speaker 3>to say if he's going to action with his words.

186
00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:42.759
<v Speaker 3>He says he wants to reform the military. Wants to

187
00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:45.840
<v Speaker 3>bring the warrior ethos back, which as the warfighter that

188
00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.000
<v Speaker 3>excites me. He wants to bring high standards back in

189
00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:50.440
<v Speaker 3>one standard for everybody.

190
00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:52.080
<v Speaker 2>You either meet it or you move out.

191
00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:53.840
<v Speaker 3>The bottom line is what is going to make the

192
00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:56.000
<v Speaker 3>army stronger or the military stronger?

193
00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:58.480
<v Speaker 1>And that is the right focus. Well, and I think

194
00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:03.200
<v Speaker 1>that will assist in large measure to get more people

195
00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:06.360
<v Speaker 1>interested in enlisting, because I think all this woke ideology

196
00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:09.600
<v Speaker 1>has really turned off a lot of very patriotic young

197
00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:12.240
<v Speaker 1>people who otherwise might have signed up to serve their country.

198
00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I totally agree, that's that's part of what the

199
00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:17.879
<v Speaker 3>what the at least what they're saying. I looked at

200
00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:21.120
<v Speaker 3>one of the executive orders that talked about the de

201
00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.320
<v Speaker 3>I stuff, and they're not saying they don't want any

202
00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:27.519
<v Speaker 3>more equality or you know, opportunity anything like that. They're

203
00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:29.600
<v Speaker 3>not saying this is against anyone. They're just saying they

204
00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:33.159
<v Speaker 3>don't want something that basically gives quotas and saying that

205
00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.200
<v Speaker 3>you have to have a certain amount of these categories

206
00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:38.480
<v Speaker 3>in higher positions, because now then you're you're elevating people

207
00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:42.120
<v Speaker 3>based on a criteria other than merits, other than do

208
00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:44.639
<v Speaker 3>they deserve it or not. And the focus is not

209
00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:47.440
<v Speaker 3>on making the military stronger, it's on making sure it

210
00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:50.720
<v Speaker 3>meets DEI stuff, which is not the same thing. And

211
00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:52.919
<v Speaker 3>so I want to make sure I hope they don't

212
00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:55.120
<v Speaker 3>go too far with that where they you know, it

213
00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:57.519
<v Speaker 3>goes back to where people are pushed down or certain

214
00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:00.559
<v Speaker 3>groups are minimized, and they don't get a fair shot.

215
00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.600
<v Speaker 3>We don't want that, but we do want merit based promotions.

216
00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're I mean, sexuality has nothing to do with it.

217
00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:08.000
<v Speaker 1>You have the appropriate merit and skill sets to do

218
00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:10.000
<v Speaker 1>any given job. So I'm with you on that all

219
00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:12.840
<v Speaker 1>day long. And briefly, let's pivot over to Tulsi Gabbard

220
00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:18.200
<v Speaker 1>National Intelligence. She's somewhat controversial. I know that she was

221
00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:21.840
<v Speaker 1>in favor of Edward Snowden, wanted him pardon, and I

222
00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:23.559
<v Speaker 1>person don't have an issue with that. I think the

223
00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:25.519
<v Speaker 1>world is a better place for knowing what we know

224
00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:30.559
<v Speaker 1>after the snowed and release, but also previously against reauthorization

225
00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.080
<v Speaker 1>of FIZA section seven oh two, which I have judged

226
00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.919
<v Speaker 1>a Polaitano on every Wednesday, and boy, that's something that

227
00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:38.519
<v Speaker 1>he just finds absolutely an offense to the Fourth Amendment.

228
00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:41.000
<v Speaker 1>But she's flipped her position on that and now is

229
00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:44.879
<v Speaker 1>in favor of it. What's your take on Tulsa Gabbard. Yeah,

230
00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.200
<v Speaker 1>let's look at that part first. That's not accurate.

231
00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:50.960
<v Speaker 3>That's what's being characterized in some parts of the media

232
00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:51.799
<v Speaker 3>that she flipped on it.

233
00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:53.039
<v Speaker 2>She did not flip on it.

234
00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:55.759
<v Speaker 3>When you look bad, I've had I featured this on

235
00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:57.799
<v Speaker 3>my show. When you look at what she said at

236
00:10:57.840 --> 00:10:59.919
<v Speaker 3>the time she was against seven oh two, it was

237
00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:03.240
<v Speaker 3>just seven oh two. She expressly said as a member

238
00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:05.919
<v Speaker 3>of Congress when she voted against it was that we said,

239
00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:08.440
<v Speaker 3>we need some of these provisions for our national security

240
00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:12.279
<v Speaker 3>and our intelligence service definitely needed, but we need protections

241
00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:14.480
<v Speaker 3>and reform so that we don't get into the Fourth

242
00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Amendment parts.

243
00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:17.159
<v Speaker 2>She has said nothing different than that.

244
00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:19.759
<v Speaker 3>Now, what she has said in recent days was that

245
00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.399
<v Speaker 3>there has been some changes that lessened her concerns about

246
00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.720
<v Speaker 3>the Fourth Amendment part, but that keeps the issues for

247
00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:27.799
<v Speaker 3>the security part.

248
00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:28.960
<v Speaker 2>So she didn't flip.

249
00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:32.600
<v Speaker 3>But she has so many enemies, Brian, I'm telling you

250
00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:36.039
<v Speaker 3>because she is gonna faithfully say whatever the intelligence says,

251
00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:38.679
<v Speaker 3>that's what gets put before the President of the United States.

252
00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:41.399
<v Speaker 3>The deep I had to take to say deep stake

253
00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:44.519
<v Speaker 3>the establishment. They don't want somebody like Gabbard in there.

254
00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:47.360
<v Speaker 3>They want somebody in there like themselves that's gonna give

255
00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:49.720
<v Speaker 3>what kind of They're gonna pick and choose what kind

256
00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:52.279
<v Speaker 3>of intelligence goes to the president that fosters the.

257
00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:54.879
<v Speaker 2>Opinion that, well, you have to use military force.

258
00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:58.360
<v Speaker 3>They all they do is They want somebody that's like them,

259
00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.679
<v Speaker 3>that's gonna keep saying force for force, military, military. They

260
00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:04.720
<v Speaker 3>don't want somebody that may say, hey, sir, intelligence says this,

261
00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:06.679
<v Speaker 3>so we actually don't need to use military power here.

262
00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:10.000
<v Speaker 3>We can use other instruments of national military power. She

263
00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:13.120
<v Speaker 3>is gonna faithfully do that. She's been consistent from the front,

264
00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:15.679
<v Speaker 3>and she is always focused on what's good for America.

265
00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:17.799
<v Speaker 3>I think she may be the best pick on the cabinet.

266
00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:20.120
<v Speaker 3>How about that? Coming through loud and clear on that one.

267
00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:23.159
<v Speaker 3>Daniel Davis Deep Dive. You can find his podcast online.

268
00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.320
<v Speaker 3>Just search Daniel Davis Deep Dive. You run right into

269
00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:28.120
<v Speaker 3>it and you can always tune in every Tuesday at

270
00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:30.799
<v Speaker 3>the bottom of the eight o'clock hour for another edition

271
00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:33.320
<v Speaker 3>of the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. Always great talk with you, sir.

272
00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:35.559
<v Speaker 3>It's my pleasure. I'll look forward to another one next Tuesday.

273
00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:37.759
<v Speaker 2>See you next week, Brian. Have a great week.

274
00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:39.679
<v Speaker 1>It's a forty coun eighty forty one, I fifty have

275
00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.039
<v Speaker 1>krcdtalk station and we're gonna learn about cervical cancer. It

276
00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:45.919
<v Speaker 1>is Cervical Cancer Awareness Month. One of the great doctors

277
00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:48.240
<v Speaker 1>for my cancer doctors OHC is going to join the

278
00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:50.399
<v Speaker 1>program next and enlighten us about that what we need

279
00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:51.759
<v Speaker 1>to look for and watch out for.

280
00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Stick around, I hope you can.

281
00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.840
<v Speaker 3>This is fifty five karc an iHeartRadio station.

282
00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Are you dreaming of a smile that is as brilliant

283
00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:00.519
<v Speaker 1>as it is natural
