Speaker 1: Welcome to the Marvel Lines podcast, recover anything and everything
Speaker 1: to do with the Marvel Universe and the comics, TV
Speaker 1: and movies. We will go from er six one six
Speaker 1: at the Mojo Verse to the TVA in order to
Speaker 1: bring the Marvel Unis right to you. I'm the Man
Speaker 1: without Fear Chris.
Speaker 2: I'm the nerd with the Mouth David, and I'm the
Speaker 2: podcast for a mischeff tras.
Speaker 1: Now Alliance Symbol Symbol Volume two hundred and forty four.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Wreckoning. Yes, this is
Speaker 1: our annual looking at our predictions for what is coming
Speaker 1: up in the year of Marvel and revisiting to see
Speaker 1: what happened. Did our predictions get correct or did we
Speaker 1: get wrecked with some of our predictions. So we are
Speaker 1: excited to do this. And as you hear coming back
Speaker 1: temporarily from his podcasting hiatus, and if you're not watching live,
Speaker 1: he is coming and injured he was, you know, we
Speaker 1: we we're gonna talk about that a little bit because
Speaker 1: but we welcome back my o lescious original co host,
Speaker 1: mister Travis Snow. Welcome back to marvel Line.
Speaker 2: Sir, Yes, thank you very much. It's great to be back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've taken a this is my first podcast in seven weeks.
Speaker 2: This is the longest break I've had since Geek forst
Speaker 2: starting nine years ago. But I meant to if people
Speaker 2: didn't know I was going to be on the whenever
Speaker 2: the babies came, I was gonna be on that Thursday
Speaker 2: because it was playing. Okay, see section Friday. Well then
Speaker 2: it came to the Wednesday, so I said it, Chris Wall,
Speaker 2: I'm not making that episode, so you're good, sure, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not making the episode. I was like, I can't
Speaker 2: miss this one. So yeah, not fully back obviously, lots
Speaker 2: of random stuff happening in the Geek first as you
Speaker 2: can see. Yes, I've been injured, so it's been a
Speaker 2: racous couple of weeks. But I will I will answer
Speaker 2: that all upon my return. When is that. You'll have
Speaker 2: to You'll have to stay tuned because the only thing
Speaker 2: I can tell you about Tras now is to expect
Speaker 2: the unexpected, and nothing is for sure. But I'm happy
Speaker 2: to be here. Happy here David, now that you know
Speaker 2: he's hosting all Brent's gone, so much has changed in general,
Speaker 2: so I wish Brent is doing well. Also, we kind
Speaker 2: of talk. We see chats every day. But it's great
Speaker 2: to be reunited with David as well, who's been holding
Speaker 2: down the sbub's and the gimmick. So it's a fun episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's good to uh be back hosting with
Speaker 3: you again because again, if we do the gimmick together
Speaker 3: and so with you taking your break, and we haven't
Speaker 3: even got to do wrestling in this form together outside
Speaker 3: of our chats. So yeah, it's cool. And you know,
Speaker 3: I've been happy to step in for Brent. Unlike the
Speaker 3: rest of you. I've actually seen brenton person all over
Speaker 3: four and a half hours ago.
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you what. Brent and I almost met,
Speaker 1: almost met it when our looks like our respective Disney
Speaker 1: trips a couple of years ago, almost the line we
Speaker 1: were like a week apart or something like that. So
Speaker 1: we almost had that interaction. So but we got a
Speaker 1: fifth of the Jack in the in the chat says
Speaker 1: all right, wrapped up his comic book comework, chillball streaming
Speaker 1: with some great, good old fashioned fun. Always good to
Speaker 1: see you, buddy. Yeah, but everyone's week's going well.
Speaker 3: Other than snow apocalypse, We've been all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been going from a big time concussion, so
Speaker 2: that that's been tough. But other than that, still going well.
Speaker 2: The new kiddos are healthy. I'm trying to think what else,
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's the most important.
Speaker 1: Twin life like, because I know what that's like. Obviously
Speaker 1: it's been it's been a few years since i've it's now, hey,
Speaker 1: actually eight years tomorrow the babies came into our lives.
Speaker 2: Wow, look at that.
Speaker 1: Their birthday birthday is on Friday.
Speaker 2: So happy uh not? But what's uh, there's the lady
Speaker 2: when you miss it? What's pre birth What is the
Speaker 2: pre birthday?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is their birthday.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, it's been a whole different ballpark. I
Speaker 2: think it's good. So crudos to Chris who just had
Speaker 2: twins first. For me, at least I had some practice
Speaker 2: with the three kids. It's like because before you're used
Speaker 2: to okay, one baby, you know, someone takes a shift,
Speaker 2: or okay, i'll take Monday, you take Tuesday. There's none
Speaker 2: of that with twins. There there's no someone's getting rest.
Speaker 2: So this is definitely the least amount of sleep I've
Speaker 2: had in my life. I think we finally found a
Speaker 2: routine now, especially I'll talk about Chris no Is a
Speaker 2: bit about but I'll talk more on the soul episode.
Speaker 2: But the first few weeks where a lot of visits
Speaker 2: to the hospitals. Like I said, they're all good now,
Speaker 2: but one was a lot smaller, so that caused a
Speaker 2: lot of complications. But those weeks were those were brutal
Speaker 2: and the dogs bey, oh yeah, I gotta make sure
Speaker 2: you get some sleep. It's like, well, I can't do
Speaker 2: that when I'm going back and before one of my
Speaker 2: babies in the hospital. One of my babies isn't in
Speaker 2: the like the er and the nick you It's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's been raucus, but it's been it's been good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We got two little girls, Valerie in Sydney and yeah
Speaker 2: right now they're doing well.
Speaker 1: But it's been it's been a pure girl dad at
Speaker 1: all all girls.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all girls. Yeah that all the number five
Speaker 2: is ramp in the household. But luckily the kids are
Speaker 2: great and they help out a lot. But yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's luckily now we're getting down to it and the
Speaker 2: bigger they get, they get to sleep a little longer.
Speaker 2: It's not that rapid. Hey, every two and a half
Speaker 2: hours you got to do a feeding but definitely lacking
Speaker 2: amount of sleep. So I'm happy to still have another
Speaker 2: month before I go back to my job job and
Speaker 2: just try to relax.
Speaker 1: Soak it in, soak it in. How about you. You
Speaker 1: said snowpocalypse for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, snowpocalypse for us. Some areas of this city got
Speaker 3: up to I think the top was eleven inches of
Speaker 3: snow in our area. I think my area got around
Speaker 3: eight the night of snow. Eye shoveled my driveway four
Speaker 3: times at night and then woke up and it still
Speaker 3: did not look like I touched anything. I was looking
Speaker 3: on social media because I stayed home once the ice hit.
Speaker 3: The ice started Saturday around noonish, and I saw some
Speaker 3: stuff on the internet and there was about five minutes
Speaker 3: from my house on the highway, there was a two
Speaker 3: hundred car pile up. So yeah, I'm like, I will
Speaker 3: be right here. But somehow still managed to make it
Speaker 3: to work this week, even though my kids have not
Speaker 3: gone to work. Luckily, I can remote shut down the
Speaker 3: video games from work, so they've been forced to actually
Speaker 3: do some stuff while they're at the house.
Speaker 2: That type of stuff right there.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's been a very much. Uh, all right,
Speaker 3: you guys can't play Fortnite until eleven o'clock and I
Speaker 3: will make sure about that because the Xbox in the
Speaker 3: PlayStation cannot connect to the internet.
Speaker 1: God, I remember you were fun. Once you're.
Speaker 2: On the on the opposite end of that with the snow,
Speaker 2: A big like shout out to everybody in LA and
Speaker 2: California work with those fires. Obviously, I doubt that they're
Speaker 2: listening to these podcasts right now, but whether it's in
Speaker 2: the future where you happened to me, maybe you're in
Speaker 2: a different city now, definitely some because we obviously got
Speaker 2: friends out there and stuff like definitely hurts out there
Speaker 2: because it's, uh, it's been. It's been a crazy thing
Speaker 2: to see how wrap it got and how bad it
Speaker 2: got to just when David said about the car pop up,
Speaker 2: just when you see all it so a big you know,
Speaker 2: hearts out to everybody out there because that's some terrible
Speaker 2: stuff going on right now.
Speaker 1: Stay safe, out to everyone. If for those of our
Speaker 1: heart to go out to you, you know, whatever you
Speaker 1: need to do, I hope that be safe. Don't don't
Speaker 1: play around with this stuff. It's it's not worth it.
Speaker 1: It really isn't keep keep lives. Property may be hard
Speaker 1: to think right now, but property to give a replace,
Speaker 1: but your lives cannot. So exactly, we have all the
Speaker 1: all the all the firefighters, all the police, everyone out
Speaker 1: there that's fighting it. At that point you know that
Speaker 1: you guys are are the true heroes out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think around Marble Alliance. Last year I
Speaker 2: was on here, but we had the similar thing in
Speaker 2: the summer with our on the west side here where
Speaker 2: it just went plan So it's it's it can become
Speaker 2: pandemonium really quick. So yeah, like Chris said, just take
Speaker 2: what you need get out of there. I know. Also
Speaker 2: it sucks stuff. You can't replace many things, but safety
Speaker 2: is the big thing. So I hope I I hope
Speaker 2: it all gets handled very soon.
Speaker 1: So on the opposite end, I live in North Carolina
Speaker 1: and our version of soap Pockets is happening this weekend
Speaker 1: with one to three inches coming, and we don't have
Speaker 1: school tomorrow, and there's always debate right now whether we're
Speaker 1: going to have school on Monday because it's going to
Speaker 1: be still very cold and whatever melt is going to refreeze,
Speaker 1: and so the county I live in is rather say,
Speaker 1: we've got suburban and then we've got rural. So it's
Speaker 1: usually the rural areas that buses can't get down and
Speaker 1: stuff like that that usually causes the county continue to
Speaker 1: be shut down. So we'll see exactly about that. But
Speaker 1: it's been a good week first week back. You know,
Speaker 1: kids are back. We're getting Betty back to routines. But
Speaker 1: I'm also glad my children were back in school getting
Speaker 1: back to their routines. Yeah, but all right, well let
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Speaker 1: I know you know David obviously you won't have predictions
Speaker 1: from last year, and I would say, what would be
Speaker 1: your predictions, but they'd all be right because why why
Speaker 1: she was then at that point. So yeah, so let
Speaker 1: us revisit go in the way back machine to last
Speaker 1: year and kind of look at our Brent, my and
Speaker 1: Travis's predictions to see what we thought was going to
Speaker 1: happen in the year twenty twenty four with Marvel. Now,
Speaker 1: we I think by that point we knew we were
Speaker 1: only going to get one movie and it was going
Speaker 1: to be basically made up of the Disney Plus shows,
Speaker 1: and Sony was going to dominate the movies, and domination
Speaker 1: did yeah. Yeah, So all right, so let's see how
Speaker 1: Brent did with his prediction. So his first prediction was
Speaker 1: Daredevil's final episode count will be announced at thirteen episodes,
Speaker 1: as he said risky because the show is likely not
Speaker 1: coming out until twenty twenty five. So I don't even
Speaker 1: know have we gotten a final episode count.
Speaker 2: I think it's nine, Okay, I was looking at it.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's nine. It's definitely not thirteen.
Speaker 2: I think that was a bold prediction by Brent, So
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: It was, as I call a cool ranch prediction. So
Speaker 1: unfortunately Brent got wrecked on that one. But hey, the
Speaker 1: good thing is we all win because it's still coming.
Speaker 2: Out, so thank goodness. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so all right, next one, we will get the
Speaker 1: title for the fourth MC spider Man movie, and and
Speaker 1: this is where he gets even better, and it will
Speaker 1: not have home anywhere in the title. So do we
Speaker 1: give partial credit for not having anything in the title
Speaker 1: or having no title? Technically it didn't have home in
Speaker 1: it because there was no title announced.
Speaker 2: I'll say there for Bent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't give him that one until we get
Speaker 3: Tom Holland accidentally spilling the beans on what the title is.
Speaker 3: No points.
Speaker 2: Oh, kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: He's getting a good week, he's got, you know, he's
Speaker 1: officially a great week. Kind of kind of ruined it
Speaker 1: with that huge rock that she was showing off that
Speaker 1: the day before the announcement, you know, all right, Next
Speaker 1: the Fantastic forecast will officially be announced at San Diego
Speaker 1: Comic Con, though it may leak before that. Also wrecked
Speaker 1: It did leak before that, the week leaked, and then
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: Even official announced before too. Yeah, it couldn't even make it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. So the next one, Deadpool three for
Speaker 1: Marvel Studios fan Fair, will show at least one Fox
Speaker 1: era character in it, ungraded probably will be Deadpool. I
Speaker 1: think if the fan fair someone wants to pull it up.
Speaker 1: I think it was just a Deadpool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was it all Deadpool?
Speaker 1: I want to say. I want to say, yes, I
Speaker 1: know we did for this one.
Speaker 2: I was listening to that today and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm sure one of them have the h the answer here.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry he didn't get No.
Speaker 2: It looks like it's the regular yeah, because's him singing
Speaker 2: at the end. So Dedpool is in it though, So
Speaker 2: it's it's the regular one. The only thing that's different
Speaker 2: is near the end at the m right before ch'challatte
Speaker 2: is the blast. Wade is there with the knife.
Speaker 1: Okay, so so do we count this because it's technically
Speaker 1: ake Fox character? He didn't I would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he did did say even Deadpool.
Speaker 1: So so all right, and last one, Armor Wars will
Speaker 1: be given a release date. Travis is Travis. Travis says
Speaker 1: Disney plus movie or excise me, Disney movie to be
Speaker 1: you know, movie to finally happen. His favorite movie is
Speaker 1: one he keeps hoping and praying will actually happen.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I know because I've always been impressed
Speaker 2: by the fact that brand had that stat and I've
Speaker 2: cited it many times, but no MCU projects has, everybody
Speaker 2: has has always come out. I think you're getting ready
Speaker 2: to learn the cancelation announcement Armored Wars. Now, I honestly
Speaker 2: might think it might be a thing that they just
Speaker 2: never even answer it, like the way Ryan Johnson is
Speaker 2: still directing ye Star Wars trilogy. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Armor Wars. Yeah, we're excited about that. But the fact
Speaker 2: that it's never even been on a slate, we're so
Speaker 2: far away. I know there was some gist with it,
Speaker 2: but even don Shield say, yeah, I don't know what's
Speaker 2: happening with that. He was joking the same and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I legamin don't think he knows what's happening with it.
Speaker 2: I just I think that's in an era where there
Speaker 2: are more pickular projects now more than ever. I think
Speaker 2: that's doa that's done, but it's actually done.
Speaker 1: So it's not And I don't know if it's one
Speaker 1: of those things that they're just gone to quietly not
Speaker 1: say anything and just hope people think that once they
Speaker 1: move to the next era, they won't. I mean, our
Speaker 1: closes the thing two in Armor Wars right now is
Speaker 1: going to be seeing probably the reception to Ironheart, if
Speaker 1: the reception is good.
Speaker 2: And we had heard some rumors that with some of
Speaker 2: the plot elements, which to me is not another good
Speaker 2: thing for Armored Wars. It is like Sea Tiers stuff.
Speaker 2: But some people are saying that some of that stuff
Speaker 2: was going to be worked in a vision quest like
Speaker 2: West Coast Aveangers everything like that. Yeah. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 2: why it's like, Okay, if people are taking storylines from
Speaker 2: your show, I don't think that's a good sign that
Speaker 2: that's happening.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's a little bit. So right now,
Speaker 1: Brent Dan's head, he got one, so he got one one.
Speaker 1: So all right, Travis, you know, Travis, do you want
Speaker 1: me to go over yours? Do you know yours?
Speaker 2: Go over? Because I have them in bullet points like
Speaker 2: I just have blank, blank box office from last year,
Speaker 2: but I think I have an idea.
Speaker 1: So all right, so your first one, and you know
Speaker 1: we must remember Sony being Sony Craven and Madam Webb
Speaker 1: combined will not make five hundred.
Speaker 2: Million, So damn right on that one, right, you are
Speaker 2: right that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, absolutely, right now, what now, what was
Speaker 1: the final box office total?
Speaker 2: Oh, let me find out here. I'll do some quick
Speaker 2: search and go to do the second one, and then
Speaker 2: i'll get this one.
Speaker 1: I just I mean that good thing. You didn't put
Speaker 1: Venom in there. You're smart not to put Venom in there,
Speaker 1: just because of how well that did. That could have
Speaker 1: really now you might have actually done it if Venom
Speaker 1: and Craven were your picks.
Speaker 2: Well even Venom though, that's so clear or it hasn't
Speaker 2: cleared half a bill yet, right, I think it's close.
Speaker 2: It's like four something because.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you made five hundred million worldwide?
Speaker 3: Is what?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: World wide? Of course. Yeah, so like Venom three right now,
Speaker 2: where is it? It's a It's at four to seventy eight,
Speaker 2: So definitely I would have been wrong picking that one.
Speaker 2: But so, madam web is one hundred thousand. I'm just
Speaker 2: doing a clean hundred million, hundred thousand. Oh sorry, sorry, yeah,
Speaker 2: what was it? You guy?
Speaker 1: You guys did this well? Was it thing? What? What
Speaker 1: was the prediction of how much money? I can't remember
Speaker 1: what movie?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a Joker and then like one thousand
Speaker 2: or something dollars, But then it's still bombed Superman.
Speaker 1: They were talking about Superman didn't make it.
Speaker 2: It didn't make Yeah, and then so Madam Webb at
Speaker 2: one hundred million, and then rounding up Craven at fifty
Speaker 2: nine million, which is terrible. Yeah, I didn't even didn't
Speaker 2: even do two hundred million. I should have went lower.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Craven fifty eight million. World idea. Thanks in the game.
Speaker 1: All right, So yeah, so you got that. So next
Speaker 1: Fantastic four, we'll move from May twenty twenty five to
Speaker 1: November twenty twenty five, and Blade will move from November
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five to February twenty twenty six. So neither one.
Speaker 2: Blade did move, just the February.
Speaker 1: Move completely doesn't doesn't exist. Again, I am saying Blade's
Speaker 1: a fake movie right now, and Fantastic four is still
Speaker 1: holding firm. I'm still in the camp that they're gonna
Speaker 1: they're gonna hold firm to that one.
Speaker 2: I am, but watched the move and I couldn't got
Speaker 2: this prediction right later. I still think there's a percentage
Speaker 2: it could be true, because you never know what can happen, right,
Speaker 2: and you know, Superman maybe won't get away. But yeah,
Speaker 2: right now, it seems like it's sticks. So yeah, big,
Speaker 2: big thumbs down to me for that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that that's staying there now. As far as Blade,
Speaker 3: there's only been one Blade, only ever will be. But yeah,
Speaker 3: Fantastic four stand ward was and that's.
Speaker 1: The thing people would even say, like, oh, Superman's gonna move. No,
Speaker 1: Superman's not gonna move Superman. Superman is the tenth pole.
Speaker 1: They are locked in at that date. There is nothing
Speaker 1: that will make them move. An act of God will
Speaker 1: have to make that move, like dark Side. All right.
Speaker 1: The Fantastic Forecast will officially be announced a D twenty three,
Speaker 1: though may leak beforehand, also unfortunate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I was wrong on that one. I think
Speaker 2: you came like it wasn't like Valentine's Week or something
Speaker 2: like that. What was the No, you're.
Speaker 1: Right, it was it was it was Valentine'sday week because
Speaker 1: that's where they came up with the kind of the
Speaker 1: the image and the era what they were looking at.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that we me and Brent were both wrong.
Speaker 2: I thought if it wasn't that one to be the
Speaker 2: other one. But no, they just put it out there,
Speaker 2: like we said, random day.
Speaker 1: Yep, exactly, why not? All right, Kang will not be recast,
Speaker 1: or if there is a rumor of who that has
Speaker 1: the part, the actor will not be specified as King
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: You are right, I got that, okay, because the reason
Speaker 2: I did that, I think it was at the time
Speaker 2: there was lots of rumors of, oh, they're talking to
Speaker 2: John David Wasshed and they're talking to Coleman Domingo. I don't.
Speaker 2: I was like, I think, even if they gets recast,
Speaker 2: it ain't happening in that calendar year. And I was right,
Speaker 2: there might not even happen at all.
Speaker 1: But random plug, random plug, speaking of columb Domingo, if
Speaker 1: you have not watched Colem Domingo and Kiaren Culkin Actors
Speaker 1: on Actors, do yourself a favor that it is probably
Speaker 1: the most funniest forty five minutes to you. You will
Speaker 1: spend watching those two talk.
Speaker 2: It's great their morning routines. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right.
Speaker 1: Chris Evans will appear as a human torch in Dead three.
Speaker 2: That was a give me. That was an easy one.
Speaker 1: That layups. It still counts. So all right, so you
Speaker 1: got three out of your five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, not that I'll take that. I think I've
Speaker 2: had many years. I think two has been my caps.
Speaker 2: I got a new record now, So.
Speaker 1: All right, so my first one I get wrecked and
Speaker 1: wrecked bad, but I wanted to be put it out there.
Speaker 1: I said, Deadpool three will not make a billion dollars
Speaker 1: at the box office, So I got I got royally
Speaker 1: wrecked on that. But at the time we just didn't know.
Speaker 1: We knew it was gonna be big. But the question
Speaker 1: is how big was it? And I'm glad it, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I mean as a stockholder, I
Speaker 1: mean I was glad for my stock, but you know
Speaker 1: I didn't see money for or that necessarily.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I agreed with you back then. I think
Speaker 2: I don't. I can't remember because I really tried to
Speaker 2: listen to most of the episode again today, and I
Speaker 2: think Brent pretty much agreed. I think we all said
Speaker 2: that it could be possible. But I think at that
Speaker 2: point that's when the box office still and the box
Speaker 2: office still isn't what it was, but it's definitely way
Speaker 2: more recover. We got now multiple billion movies in a
Speaker 2: year again, so I think now we're in that time
Speaker 2: where okay, some movies can hit those marks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all the games ain't no offense to John
Speaker 1: David Washington. Can we please stop suggesting him for every
Speaker 1: black mill role? There are many other talented black hearts.
Speaker 1: Absolutely fully agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree. I think the only reason people do
Speaker 2: that is because they do like him and they want
Speaker 2: him in Like lots of people hate this, but they
Speaker 2: they want him in a franchise. I think they want
Speaker 2: him in a DC of Marvel Star Wars. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying I do or don't I like him up. I
Speaker 2: think that's why. It's just because people do enjoy him,
Speaker 2: so they want him in those franchise and they want
Speaker 2: someone new instead of just getting you know, Josh Brolin
Speaker 2: again as dark Side or Robert Danny is Doctor Doom.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm you know, I'm all for recasting, but I'm
Speaker 2: getting a little sick of Eh. Brawlin's already played five
Speaker 2: Kumbo characters and guess what he might play another. It's like,
Speaker 2: we got so much new people. So that's why I
Speaker 2: think Washington comes up because he's he's fresh, he's fresh blood.
Speaker 1: They know he's a marketable name, they know they like
Speaker 1: it's it's a hard sell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he can do physical roles. And then I know,
Speaker 3: like when talking to friends within the black community, they
Speaker 3: want him to get that multiple picture deal. That's a
Speaker 3: big thing. Once you get those franchises, you get the
Speaker 3: multiple picture deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and definitely you're right. There are many other quality
Speaker 1: African American persons of color out there that could do it.
Speaker 1: It's just it's the easy go to low hanging for
Speaker 1: right now. So yeah, all right, my next one. By
Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty four, we will still have
Speaker 1: we we still won't have an official announcement of where
Speaker 1: and who the Avengers are.
Speaker 2: Just ridiculous. If I've said this before, so it's only
Speaker 2: for new listeners, but if I made a top five
Speaker 2: things I'm mad about from the multiverse, Soka, it's the
Speaker 2: fact that we still don't know who the Avengers are
Speaker 2: and they're supposedly film Thiss movie in March. Sure whenever, right,
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, Josh, sure, why not. They could get
Speaker 2: killed they put him in like low Ki season three
Speaker 2: or something. But Clay would love that though.
Speaker 1: Kevin Hard absolutely Clay is if you never you know,
Speaker 1: go if you wanted to talk to talk to Clay
Speaker 1: fanboy Clay, you know, co host of Ranger Alliance and
Speaker 1: Star Wars Alliance. He is athlete Kevin hart stand. He
Speaker 1: celebrates the entire man's catalog comedy and movies, so please send.
Speaker 2: Him Radium Black as well.
Speaker 1: Exactly. You know, I don't know champions, but yeah, excellyeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, and the Young Avengers didn't count and has
Speaker 1: to say here are your Avengers or something similar, so
Speaker 1: that none of that happened. Yeah, all right. At sdc C,
Speaker 1: Kevin Fikey will announce at least two new projects that
Speaker 1: haven't been announced. Wonder Man does not count because we
Speaker 1: already know that's filming though it has not been officially announced.
Speaker 1: I technically got one. I technically got one because Avengers Doomsday,
Speaker 1: I shot, I shot, I shot. You know again, One
Speaker 1: was easy. Two was pushing it at that point. But
Speaker 1: that was the most interesting thing about SDCC. Nothing new
Speaker 1: outside of that, like you know, everything around Doomsday, there
Speaker 1: was no major projects, no major slates, And it's making
Speaker 1: me quite interested in what SDC this year is going
Speaker 1: to be because like, where are how many holes do
Speaker 1: we have left? And we know Spider Man is not
Speaker 1: going to be an SDCC announcement, because that's that's a
Speaker 1: Sony thing. That's not what they do.
Speaker 2: You know, they could do something Avengers for sure, Like
Speaker 2: even if they're not filming that much, I think you'll
Speaker 2: get like a teaser, like a first look at Doom. Officially,
Speaker 2: F four is after right Comic Con.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing that they did with Dead Deadpool three.
Speaker 1: It's going to be the same weekend, I think weekend
Speaker 1: or so they.
Speaker 2: Probably do like a screener and have the cast come
Speaker 2: out again. Maybe do that.
Speaker 1: That was a big win for them.
Speaker 2: That was and then that's all the movies, right, Becaus,
Speaker 2: Thunderbolts and May. What else is? Is there anything even
Speaker 2: on the docket for twenty twenty five Marvel?
Speaker 1: There's twenty sixth sorry, twenty six just Avengers, right, just Avengers.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing you know, until we're predicting Spider Man is
Speaker 1: going to be in there. That's that's the prediction that's
Speaker 1: going to be between if rumors every believe it's going
Speaker 1: to be taking place between Doomsday and Secret Wars.
Speaker 2: There is no D twenty three this year though, right,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Correct, it's that many D twenty three that really doesn't
Speaker 1: lead to a lot.
Speaker 2: So I bet a lot of that your first look
Speaker 2: at wonder Man, Marvel Zombies. I bet it's a lot
Speaker 2: of because all you need is Avengers Doomsday, something that's
Speaker 2: your main event, and then you can just do here's
Speaker 2: the announcement. I have a prediction about that. I think
Speaker 2: that's where we'll get like some dizzy plus stuff. So okay,
Speaker 2: that makes sense.
Speaker 1: So I'll take half credit for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give it to you.
Speaker 1: I'll take half, all right. There will be variants of
Speaker 1: Wolverine logan Wolverine logan James Howlett in Deadpool three.
Speaker 2: Oh you got that big time?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got an ungraded one, both played by Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackman and played by others. Absolutely, and I good thing.
Speaker 2: This isn't like the draft, Yeah, a good thing. This
Speaker 2: is like the geek for some huge draft for God.
Speaker 1: I mean just seeing the ones. I mean I see
Speaker 1: when I come across it to TikTok, when they they
Speaker 1: go back through those at that one Age Age of Apocalypse,
Speaker 1: will he never thought, you know, we always knew Patch
Speaker 1: from the trailers, but Age of Apocalypse, I mean the
Speaker 1: cavalry not just blew everyone away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know when he jumps off the stool
Speaker 3: and he goes ooh, comic accurate.
Speaker 1: That's still I still think it was. You know, I
Speaker 1: liked it seeing like CGI, you know, Hugh Jackman being
Speaker 1: that size. But it would have been a huge funny
Speaker 1: if they got Danny DeBrito. Yeah, so so uh and
Speaker 1: then my last one, we will get a trailer for
Speaker 1: Captain America Brave New World by the end of the year,
Speaker 1: and we did do that. So so looking at the stats, uh,
Speaker 1: Brent with one travels with three, and I edge everyone
Speaker 1: out with three point five.
Speaker 3: Three point five because we got half for the half
Speaker 3: an announcement announcement.
Speaker 2: I don't know that now when it's a win, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's a title change, it's not a project change.
Speaker 1: So we're tied at three, so I'll take the tie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If I was low behind, all was good to you.
Speaker 2: And now that I know it's a tie, I'll.
Speaker 1: Se there you go when when there's wins on the
Speaker 1: board at.
Speaker 2: That point where I can nowadays, you know, so.
Speaker 1: Andrew, how you doing? Andrew and on the game saying
Speaker 1: two dates reserve by February November.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to think if there's been anything that's
Speaker 2: been and like Chris said, take off Spider man, because
Speaker 2: those are never the Disney dates. What has been rumored
Speaker 2: to right that those legitimately those could be Blade dates,
Speaker 2: but they could not exist, right, They could just give
Speaker 2: them to something else, but that one of them could
Speaker 2: be Blade, like November. I'm trying to think, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know, and it's not X Men, because I know
Speaker 2: there's some rumors of some X Men filming next year.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know what that third movie would be. Like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's Avengers, Blade and something else.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, we already know that rumors are saying,
Speaker 1: you know, Champions is Disney plus. Yeah, that's been that's
Speaker 1: been put on there for a while.
Speaker 2: Strange three, that's always come up, Right, there's always a possibility.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of stuff out and heavy early
Speaker 1: last year about Strange. Now it's kind of gone dark,
Speaker 1: but it would fit, just because if we're leading towards
Speaker 1: what Secret Wars and Doomsday are, that would fit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, just because they have those dates doesn't
Speaker 2: mean they have to use them. They gave Blade had
Speaker 2: that November date, and they gave that to Predator bad Lands, right,
Speaker 2: so they could easily give it to a twentieth century,
Speaker 2: a Star Wars whatever for like they can just save
Speaker 2: the date. So right now there's three, but it could
Speaker 2: honestly be like Deadpool and Wolverine where it's just one.
Speaker 2: Like even if you have just Avengers Doomsday, you don't
Speaker 2: need anything else that year that's like Deadpool Wolverine, like
Speaker 2: that is the year, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeahs Buzzer's the chat saying which TV show can they
Speaker 1: turn into a movie? Mowana Tu style and to fill
Speaker 1: those days, it.
Speaker 2: Would be Champions that I think it would bomb as
Speaker 2: a movie. But if you're asking me what was coming up, like,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be wonder Man, it's not gonna be Ironheart.
Speaker 2: So Champions. Maybe you take a shot and you see,
Speaker 2: let's make it a movie.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you right now, if that rumored casts
Speaker 1: out there, oh my gosh, that wokeo bro crowd is
Speaker 1: gonna lose their darn mind.
Speaker 2: It's and I have no problem with this, but it's oh,
Speaker 2: I have no problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the idea is. But I just know I saw
Speaker 1: that rumored listing and said, oh god, that's that's gonna
Speaker 1: be detrimental to a lot of fan bases that are
Speaker 1: gonna be upset. I love it. I think it's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love a lot of those characters. But it's
Speaker 2: five women and then one man that represents themselves in
Speaker 2: the gay community. It's just like I am not luckily.
Speaker 2: I try to say more off social media, but the
Speaker 2: amount of red eye thumbnails from a bunch of losers
Speaker 2: are just lost on the way.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Amari's saying thor five need to see more hercules.
Speaker 2: I would like that because I do think Hemsworth has
Speaker 2: a chance of dying in secret Wars or doomsday. So
Speaker 2: if we got one last four and there has been
Speaker 2: rumors again, there was rumors I think like six months ago,
Speaker 2: and then more rumors popped up again this week that
Speaker 2: George Miller is in the talks, which I think would
Speaker 2: be an amazing Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's like Kenneth Brnnall back to thor yeah or.
Speaker 2: Remind like, obviously not everyone loved it, but to me,
Speaker 2: when they announced Raymy doing strange, it's like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: a fun fit. So four or five, that's a good option.
Speaker 2: I actually I could see them doing that because it's
Speaker 2: not like a huge setup. So that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Mari, I like that, So yeah, all right, so let
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Speaker 2: I don't want I'm stealing any you know, I I
Speaker 2: gotta beat them the clean.
Speaker 1: We're tied, so we got to who wants to do
Speaker 1: their five first?
Speaker 2: Are we doing all five? We're going back and forth, back.
Speaker 1: And forth, so, well, who wants to go first?
Speaker 3: I will leave it to the guys who've been here
Speaker 3: the longest.
Speaker 1: All right, Dravis, why didn't you go first?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna take an easy one because we've heard
Speaker 2: some rumors and I think it's about time. This could
Speaker 2: be an and I'm again talking about we said hey
Speaker 2: at Cabacom. Maybe they announced a bunch of D twenty
Speaker 2: three stuff. I'm not going to put or sorry, a
Speaker 2: bunch of Disney plus stuff. I'm not putting a date
Speaker 2: on this. As we've seen before when you get very specific,
Speaker 2: that can screw you up. So I'm just gonna say
Speaker 2: Hawkeye season two will be officially announced or Hawkeye continue,
Speaker 2: like it'll be called Hawkeye and whatever it is with
Speaker 2: Kate Fisher. Right but we've heard these rumors that they're
Speaker 2: looking for Clint's brother right now. This show has always
Speaker 2: been continually rumored as Hey, one day they're gonna do it,
Speaker 2: and I think that might be a good way to
Speaker 2: set up champions. It could be kind of like a
Speaker 2: hopefully it doesn't get too much like Iron Man two,
Speaker 2: where it's a lot of just nothing butt set up.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say that Hawkeye two gets officially confirmed
Speaker 2: next year. I think it's gonna be com com but
Speaker 2: I'm not putting that in predictions because they could just
Speaker 2: drop it. You know, someone could have something bad happen.
Speaker 2: They're like, Oh, put out of that Hawkeye news.
Speaker 1: You want to marvel not from a variety or.
Speaker 2: Deathline fishing now it's like it's on a slate or
Speaker 2: it's like a press release. So yeah, I won't take
Speaker 2: the you know, variety says so and so's cast, because again,
Speaker 2: that happens a lot. So I'll I'll say of fishally
Speaker 2: confirmed by Marvel in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Too, what do you feel about that one, David?
Speaker 3: I could see that, especially like he said, if something
Speaker 3: happens then they need to get some different news out
Speaker 3: there in the atmosphere. Then definitely can see that happening.
Speaker 1: And I like the all that. I think Hawkeye is
Speaker 1: one of those deep cut favorites of mine, and I
Speaker 1: think for a lot of people watching that, you know,
Speaker 1: make fun of Kingpin all you want. I think the
Speaker 1: majority of that show really upon a rewatch. It's a
Speaker 1: darn good show. And I think Hailey Steinfeld really took
Speaker 1: on that role. Besides being great fan casting, she took
Speaker 1: on the role of Kate Bishop. Like when I read
Speaker 1: Kate Bishop in the comics, I see Hailey Steinfeld. I mean,
Speaker 1: she really has become that character.
Speaker 2: And not to like bring some things down to raise another.
Speaker 2: But I feel like shows that followed it, we're got
Speaker 2: a lot more mixed reaction where I feel like that
Speaker 2: first year, a lot of people maybe had Hawkeye near
Speaker 2: the bottom of like that low key fun We're a Soldier.
Speaker 2: But now I think in retrospect with some other shows,
Speaker 2: like I love Chihawk, but there's tons of people that
Speaker 2: don't write or maybe like same thing for me. There's
Speaker 2: sons been love in this marvel. I don't. So there's
Speaker 2: things that I think Hawkeye's way above now that people like.
Speaker 2: And yeah, Seinfield was a good person to have on board,
Speaker 2: so so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think it's a good one. So
Speaker 1: all right, So my first prediction will be we will
Speaker 1: go with we will get our first official date for
Speaker 1: Spider Man for this year. I'm not saying the title.
Speaker 1: We will get a date.
Speaker 2: I sure hope, I sure hope. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you're not, yeah, yeah we will. We will get
Speaker 1: a date. We will get a date this year.
Speaker 3: It will be sewn into Tom Holland's wedding suit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Now again, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: I mean. This movie has gone through so many different predictions,
Speaker 1: so many different rumors. There's multiverse, not multiverse female casts.
Speaker 1: They're coming the old ones are coming back. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know which way we're headed to this year,
Speaker 1: I mean in the set like where we're headed to
Speaker 1: with Spider Man four, you know, and anyone's guest at
Speaker 1: this point.
Speaker 2: And I bet we won't even know for a long
Speaker 2: time because remember when like Spider Man three was in production,
Speaker 2: they didn't announce the multiverse stuff for like we figured
Speaker 2: out because there's Scoopers and stuff, but they didn't officially say, hey,
Speaker 2: al fora Malina's back. Hey this is back, you know,
Speaker 2: like we had to wait till those first trads. But okay,
Speaker 2: what's the plot? Who's back? So yeah, I agree with
Speaker 2: you that I think we won't know. We'll just get
Speaker 2: a date, we'll see some set photos. We won't know much.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and that same thing, like you said, the rumors,
Speaker 2: I give up. I give up what it is because
Speaker 2: we've heard so much stuff about rewrites. Even this week.
Speaker 2: RpK said, Oh, Scorpion and Shocker, we're in the script
Speaker 2: and then there's writing. Yeah, he said that they were
Speaker 2: in this the latest draft. They were in there, but
Speaker 2: then there's been a rewrite. So it's like, okay, I'll
Speaker 2: just this is one that I've given up and I'll
Speaker 2: just take it. When we in some actual news.
Speaker 1: I'll even say, like the Scoopers themselves, they don't I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you don't know what's going on? No, like really you don't.
Speaker 2: And for me, it's not like because I know some
Speaker 2: people like Brent was one of those people that he
Speaker 2: was done with the f forecasting, right like the rumors
Speaker 2: of the room mill I always like that. See I
Speaker 2: wasn't because I like, it's like free agency and sports.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, what would this speci to be like
Speaker 2: with read the Spider Man stuff. That's the one I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm done on. I don't care about There's been too
Speaker 2: many rumors, too much of this and that. So that's
Speaker 2: where I've drawn the line until I get some official.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I absolutely believe no Spider Man rumors at
Speaker 3: this point at all, no matter who says it. I mean,
Speaker 3: Andrew Garfield can come out and say, you know, guys,
Speaker 3: I am going to be in the next one, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to believe a word she say. So anything
Speaker 3: Spider Man related, no anything else. I'm sitting here like
Speaker 3: sports like Adam Schefter has given me an update that
Speaker 3: someone just got traded or picked up. I'm here for
Speaker 3: all of that except for Spider Man, where I'm just like,
Speaker 3: doesn't count till it happens.
Speaker 1: Will you know what? I will believe those Spider Man wise,
Speaker 1: I believe that Sony's not making another movie for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe that. I believe Thomas and Day are
Speaker 2: in it. But but that's.
Speaker 1: The other thing I was gonna say is I know
Speaker 1: they're gonna make it, but that nothing else besides me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And but the other thing is too They're doing
Speaker 2: the Nolan movie, so I could also get someone in
Speaker 2: the way, Like obviously Zanda's were supposed to be small,
Speaker 2: but Thoms supposed to be the supporting characters. It's like
Speaker 2: there's so much stuff where It's like I could see
Speaker 2: something where the Spearman movie, I think it will get
Speaker 2: a date, but it I don't know. It's it's been weird.
Speaker 4: So yeah, So all right, David, all right, I haven't
Speaker 4: that at least one more original Avenger will be confirmed
Speaker 4: for Doomsday.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one. One.
Speaker 1: So one more Avenger, so we one more of the
Speaker 1: original Avengers.
Speaker 3: So I'm not going in game everyone's an Avenger. I'm
Speaker 3: going to originals.
Speaker 1: Steeve Steve, like Chris Evans have not officially been confirmed yet, correct,
Speaker 1: So are you counting that?
Speaker 3: I'm counting the fact that Chris Evans has not been
Speaker 3: officially confirmed yet.
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure. I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure we're be we're calling this as we see it.
Speaker 1: So the only official one that's come back officially is
Speaker 1: Tony Stark, you know, as doctor Doom.
Speaker 2: And that's what one I want to say. You definitely
Speaker 2: kind of took one of mine so fast. I had
Speaker 2: Chris Evans will be officially announced at the Avengers at
Speaker 2: Comic Con. It's different, But I don't want to do
Speaker 2: what I do with BRNT last year and lose a point.
Speaker 2: What I So you're just saying an original Avenger actor
Speaker 2: they don't have to be portraying the character that they
Speaker 2: played before, right, Like down, he's back, but he's not
Speaker 2: playing harm And you're just saying an actor has to
Speaker 2: be back, correct, Okay? I just want to make sure
Speaker 2: so next year we're not like oh what what? What
Speaker 2: was the semantics? So? Okay? Anyone? I agree, because even
Speaker 2: if it's not Evans, I think Scargoe's coming back. Who
Speaker 2: else to be rough? Yeah? And I think those are
Speaker 2: easy ones. But I think Scar, I think they're all
Speaker 2: going to be back now. I think it's one of
Speaker 2: these things that I know she said no, but how
Speaker 2: do you not when it's like everybody else is doing
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, oh, you have a paycheck and have
Speaker 2: some fun.
Speaker 1: But she'll do it. She'll do it because she likes
Speaker 1: she likes the cast, she likes her friend. She'll do
Speaker 1: it for them. She's not gonna do it just because
Speaker 1: of Disney.
Speaker 2: Can you read all? I've not listened to it yet,
Speaker 2: but all right.
Speaker 1: On the Hot Mic Show. Latest rumor is that the
Speaker 1: early draft teamed up Spidey with Punisher to go after
Speaker 1: Crazy and longer intelligent.
Speaker 2: No longer intelligence, longer, he's long. Now, there's two ways.
Speaker 2: In my mind. I would absolutely love as also the
Speaker 2: com books, but the Spiderman animated show in the nineties.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see burn Thall and Holland. But that
Speaker 2: sounds I don't like that if that was the rumor
Speaker 2: of them taking down the Hulk, No, sir.
Speaker 1: Are they serious with that rumor? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: That's that's a thing now?
Speaker 3: Goodness gracious, yeah, I'm not buying that one. But if
Speaker 3: it does happen. Then, yes, throw back to the nineties.
Speaker 3: I want to see Bernhal in the blue punish her
Speaker 3: with the head band.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I get the van I love that.
Speaker 1: If I'm I'm playing you know the uh the Capca
Speaker 1: marvel on switch that punish your sideesco. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I am living up my best life.
Speaker 2: It's a crazy game.
Speaker 1: It is gosh. I was so happy when I saw
Speaker 1: that included. That was an instant by when I saw
Speaker 1: that there. All right, so those are our first one.
Speaker 1: So next one, Travis, what's your second one?
Speaker 2: Did Brent send any in or no?
Speaker 1: No's he just wanted to She's gonna sit out this year.
Speaker 2: That's fine, I suppose, is right? Sounding like a chat
Speaker 2: GBT post credits set up? Absolutely, that sounds.
Speaker 1: Like, Now who is the who is the shadowy figure
Speaker 1: in the background for the post credit scene?
Speaker 2: Probably the leader with him looking with that weird hairy
Speaker 2: got's going on and everything.
Speaker 1: People are giving such crap to that, to that, and
Speaker 1: it's just like, what did you expect him to look like?
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, I don't like it because I don't.
Speaker 2: He's like, I know, the Leader has hair, it's you.
Speaker 2: It looks there's somebody looks odd. I need to wait
Speaker 2: to see the movie. But it's just something about look looks.
Speaker 1: Odd into comics, I know, but it just.
Speaker 2: Like it looks like it looks calm, it looks it
Speaker 2: looks like they didn't want to go full kombooky. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's also the regular street clothing as well. Right, it's
Speaker 2: it's weird stuff. So okay, that one came from Roca.
Speaker 2: Apparently it's okay, and disparage Roca I've had, We've had
Speaker 2: him on the challenge so so, but he's even said
Speaker 2: like he has sources, but they're not always that good.
Speaker 2: So and who knows? Honestly though, I'm not even gonna
Speaker 2: say he's wrong, because how many other Scoopers have thrown
Speaker 2: out so many different plots between multiferent street level ghost
Speaker 2: Rider my face like it feels like there's just like
Speaker 2: a picture and for Spider Man four, and they're like,
Speaker 2: well what about this? What about this? So yeah, who knows? Okay,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take another easy one. I got a
Speaker 2: couple of crazy ones, don't worry, but I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: another easy one. I'm gonna say there's gonna be no
Speaker 2: billion dollar MCU movie. I did this prediction in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three and I got that right, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do it again.
Speaker 1: I've got a caveat to that, so mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have that so yeah. Also, we got Thunderbolts.
Speaker 2: That's a no for me. Cap that's no. The only
Speaker 2: one that could break through is maybe F four if
Speaker 2: it's super crazy. You got Downy, and Downy is like
Speaker 2: the billion dollar machine, right, you put him in a movie,
Speaker 2: you get that hype. So I that's the only one
Speaker 2: I think could. But again, July is very busy. But
Speaker 2: maybe there's a or a Barberheimer. Right, maybe that Jurassic
Speaker 2: World and Superman just make mucho bucco. So but I'm
Speaker 2: still gonna say no. I F four to me, I've
Speaker 2: said this a couple of times. I feel like us
Speaker 2: as the geek community really prop up F four. But
Speaker 2: if you look at the other movies, yeah, they don't.
Speaker 2: They've not done that well. I think this one's great
Speaker 2: because you got Pedro, who is very hot. Right now,
Speaker 2: you got Joseph Quinn. I think this will not be
Speaker 2: a bomb. I think it could make I'm thinking six
Speaker 2: to seven hundred, but I think people thinking, Oh, it's
Speaker 2: the F four. People have been waiting for this. No,
Speaker 2: that's the X Men F four. I don't think people
Speaker 2: care about that.
Speaker 1: So now now to your point of being that do
Speaker 1: you think out of those three, which one is gonna
Speaker 1: be the big mind? You think it's fantastic four Thunderbolts,
Speaker 1: because I think all of us are on the kind
Speaker 1: of same page that we think Captain America is gonna
Speaker 1: be the quote unquote we'll put that bomb, but in
Speaker 1: the one the last place in a sense of money
Speaker 1: to made.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm back and forth on f War's definitely one.
Speaker 2: It's tough with me for Thunderbolts because at least with
Speaker 2: cap it's like you do got Harrison Ford. I think
Speaker 2: then showing the Red Hulk has been smart, Like, I
Speaker 2: think that will get people going. I just wander thunder
Speaker 2: because what I hear I look at Thunderbolts and I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm so excited about his roster, whether it's real people,
Speaker 2: whether it's times you and may have been on the
Speaker 2: vodka stream. I feel like I hear so many times
Speaker 2: about the Thunderbolts, like I don't give a shit about
Speaker 2: any of these characters. So I'm actually thinking it's in that
Speaker 2: May slot. But I think right now I'm currently f
Speaker 2: four Cap and Thunderbolts because Thunderbolts doesn't have a Hulk
Speaker 2: to show off, they don't have Harrison Ford to show off,
Speaker 2: they don't have that that thing. There hasn't been a
Speaker 2: Marvel film since dead Pool, Will Ren, I'm not, I
Speaker 2: guess MCU sorry Phantom three, but and honestly, I could
Speaker 2: both see Thunderbolts and Caps also doing like four hundred
Speaker 2: million calling the day, you know. So that's my ficial prediction,
Speaker 2: no billion dollar MCU movie this year.
Speaker 1: What do you think, David, What's what's kind of your
Speaker 1: order ranking?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to agree with that. I think the
Speaker 3: thing that for again us in the community fantastic for
Speaker 3: we want it to do well. We're hoping it does well.
Speaker 3: I think one of the things going against it though,
Speaker 3: is the kind of even though it has a futuristic,
Speaker 3: it still has that throwback feel it does. It's aesthetic wise,
Speaker 3: it's not a grabber.
Speaker 2: It's not something that.
Speaker 3: That makes you go, I need to see this. This
Speaker 3: is going to be a big deal and for us,
Speaker 3: like again Galacti, stat's a big deal. But for the
Speaker 3: common person, I already know once this trailer drops, I'm
Speaker 3: going to start getting text messages about who is this?
Speaker 3: Who is this?
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 3: And so you know, I can try and hype it up,
Speaker 3: but I don't think that it's going to have enough
Speaker 3: hype to cross it over that billion dollar threshold. Same
Speaker 3: thing with Thunderbolts. It's it's something that, again, we care
Speaker 3: about these characters, like I like Red Guardian, everyone loves
Speaker 3: Bucky like You've got the characters there, but it's not
Speaker 3: a grabber. It's not something that's gonna make you just
Speaker 3: want to go see it. And then Captain America. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna touch on that with something later. So everything has
Speaker 3: its reason. But yeah, I don't think that there's gonna
Speaker 3: be a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think here here's they put Captain America where
Speaker 1: it was because it's February. It's not a big money
Speaker 1: maker month. They can own it. They could probably do
Speaker 1: it just because it's there. But there, I think. I
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it, but I think the story
Speaker 1: is gonna be a mess. Unfortunately. I think it's it's
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a mess, but I'm just
Speaker 1: getting this feeling like, and it's not because the contant rewrites.
Speaker 1: The rewrites sometimes you do. It's just like there's been
Speaker 1: so many wholesale changes. I'm very concerned about how this
Speaker 1: is all gonna put together.
Speaker 3: They lost the wrestling community because they cut my boy South.
Speaker 2: Rallins well, And that doesn't mean it's not a hit,
Speaker 2: right because like Jurassic World Tonight, which is a super
Speaker 2: mess and that's a billion dollar movie. But I agree,
Speaker 2: like with the Mary's bringing out there too. I do.
Speaker 2: I like Anthony Mackie a lot, but I agree that
Speaker 2: I don't think he is a draw in the sense
Speaker 2: that he can carry a movie. I think that's why
Speaker 2: that was smart to go to Harrison Ford. But as
Speaker 2: much as I love Harrison Ford, he's not the biggest
Speaker 2: draw either. Right because Indiana Jones, I'm with you, Chris,
Speaker 2: Like I liked that last movie a lot, but it
Speaker 2: lost him a lot of money, right, say what it
Speaker 2: is people didn't care. At least this generation didn't feel
Speaker 2: I got to go out to see Harrison Ford. So
Speaker 2: that's that's a tough thing. But and that's the thing
Speaker 2: I think with superhero movies now more than ever, it
Speaker 2: is do I have to see this, especially when you
Speaker 2: can get superhero stuff on Max, you can get it
Speaker 2: on Disney. Plus, it will be hey, do I need
Speaker 2: to see this? I think a lot of the GA
Speaker 2: might go Eh. I know, I can wait a couple months.
Speaker 2: I'll watch Falcon Wear Soldier again and then I'll go
Speaker 2: from there. So I really don't know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's one of those things where with everyone,
Speaker 1: I think Fantastic four it's going to be the top
Speaker 1: at that point. I do agree with your prediction. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's going to be one single billion dollar
Speaker 1: obviously Fantastic far as it be the much, but they
Speaker 1: did they were smart about who they cast for those
Speaker 1: pearls because that again I brought it up last week
Speaker 1: on the vodka stream, like DEMI putting those people in
Speaker 1: Dune Part two, that was on purpose, Like when you
Speaker 1: cast those people for Doune. At that point, it's to
Speaker 1: get people in the seats because you like those people.
Speaker 1: So that's the first thing. I think that first trailer
Speaker 1: that I still hold into that will drop at the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. I think they're going to see these texts
Speaker 1: is going to keep that kind of train going Thunderbolts.
Speaker 1: That was interesting in the sense of, you know, they
Speaker 1: putting it as the opening into the summer and not
Speaker 1: Fantastic four, and putting Fantastic four kind of where it's
Speaker 1: become kind of the new kind of July is now
Speaker 1: the new summer blockbuster kind of area. That says to me,
Speaker 1: they have a lot more faith in that then needs
Speaker 1: to be. And I think a lot of it's going
Speaker 1: to come down to the character interactions. It's not to
Speaker 1: your point, we don't really care about them as characters,
Speaker 1: but I'm looking forward to the dynamics of those of
Speaker 1: the interaction and that's what's really and I think that's
Speaker 1: going to be a more interesting story to see exactly
Speaker 1: that front of notes. But yeah, I'm with you on that,
Speaker 1: and I'm with you. I don't think that any of
Speaker 1: those is gonna be a billion dollars.
Speaker 2: So and I can't wait for the first half an
Speaker 2: hour from the Kill task Master as well.
Speaker 1: I'll mention the new slip knot, but I.
Speaker 2: Don't have them my predictions, but take that as a
Speaker 2: non prediction that task Master is a goner in that movie.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, So I will go with my
Speaker 1: next one will be We will get no official word
Speaker 1: about the MCUs X who the ncus X men will
Speaker 1: be this year, No mcux men announcements. They're still holding
Speaker 1: that close suggests because again I think that they have
Speaker 1: learned their lessons from the Chapiic era. We are not
Speaker 1: going to make huge announcements too far out that we
Speaker 1: can't control. And Foggy has gone on record many times
Speaker 1: that's saying post Secret Wars is the era.
Speaker 2: Of X Men. Okay, I will I think I'll agree
Speaker 2: in the way you phrase it. I have another prediction
Speaker 2: coming up that's touches upon that, but it's something different
Speaker 2: on the other side. So I agree that. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think you get the whole cast or anything, but
Speaker 2: there is rumors. Obviously they're talking to directors and actors now,
Speaker 2: so but I don't think they'll announce it.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm talking about like cast and everything like that,
Speaker 1: Like we can talk about like directors like things like that,
Speaker 1: but no actors. Nothing about like who that MCU's X
Speaker 1: men cast will be. And no, we're not counting you know, Beasts.
Speaker 1: We know Beasts is going to return at that point.
Speaker 1: We're not count of Wolverine. We're talking the MCUs official
Speaker 1: X men. So what do you think, David.
Speaker 3: I've already had a factor of fiction on this a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. But you know what I am,
Speaker 3: I'm inclined to agree. I don't want it. I do
Speaker 3: want something. I want to start putting a face to
Speaker 3: when I say Cyclice was right, but I don't think
Speaker 3: it's gonna happen wrong.
Speaker 2: That is wrong.
Speaker 1: Despite what Brent sent me this week about some comics
Speaker 1: he's reading, at that point, I sent him the back
Speaker 1: work because Jean said it wrong. That counts more.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: All right, David, you're up? All right?
Speaker 3: Uh, since we've already touched on it, Captain America Brave
Speaker 3: New World will be the lowest grossing Captain America movie.
Speaker 3: So that is under three hundred and seventy point six million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough one. I looked at that because
Speaker 2: that first cap is pretty low. Because to me, if
Speaker 2: if that is, if that happens, I do hope Peop
Speaker 2: don't want to say this, but they will. The faith
Speaker 2: they have in Makia is Captain America will be gone.
Speaker 2: And I do think you'll whenever we'd get Phase seven
Speaker 2: or whatever, you'll get see Rogers back, whether Chris Evans
Speaker 2: is playing him or not. I think they'll write or
Speaker 2: they'll just leave the Captain America character for a loan
Speaker 2: for a bit, or he'll just be a team like
Speaker 2: a team member. So I'm gonna say, well, it's not
Speaker 2: factor fiction. I think it will be four hundred plus.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna happen, but it's not out
Speaker 2: of around possibility. Sadly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see it being under five hundred million.
Speaker 1: I don't know for that one, but I don't see
Speaker 1: it necessary. That's not too far off from the possibility.
Speaker 1: But I think it's it'll be lowest performing. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's gonna make it to half a billion.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, the one thing it does have going in
Speaker 3: its favor is inflation, because you know, yes, the original
Speaker 3: Captain America ticket prices are way more. But I also
Speaker 3: think with the current political climate and black Captain America,
Speaker 3: you are going to have some people who don't see
Speaker 3: it just because it is Anthony McKie as Captain America
Speaker 3: that not my Captain America. Crowd will stand up and
Speaker 3: will go against this. You'll hear the all they're going
Speaker 3: woke here they are trying to change and race swap
Speaker 3: Captain America, not knowing that this has been years and
Speaker 3: years of common continuity that they're gonna ignore for the
Speaker 3: sake of their own racism for you all, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: Well, and even then to the extent of the other side,
Speaker 2: I think there's people that might just not like I
Speaker 2: don't want like a new person's cap like not the best,
Speaker 2: like the assholes, just like I like Chris Evans, and
Speaker 2: I don't need like a like a side character being that,
Speaker 2: you know, And that's the thing where it has a
Speaker 2: lot going against. I think that's why they're trying to
Speaker 2: really go on the Red hulkness of it all. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm very curious how that goes because I think in
Speaker 2: February they don't have much. So if it's even at
Speaker 2: least just like a decent movie, it could have some legs.
Speaker 2: But hey, last time was the last I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: I think I'm right. The last movie they had in
Speaker 2: February was Quantmedia, right, I think that's yeah, all right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I'm just saying that there's there's We've been here before.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, So wrap it back around. So
Speaker 1: number three, your third prediction.
Speaker 2: Travis, Okay, I'm going for my last kind of gimme
Speaker 2: easy one here. I'm gonna say that there'll be no
Speaker 2: official announcement Hugh Jackman returning to the MCU. I'm saying
Speaker 2: this because there's been talks about Doomsday, talk about Secret Wars.
Speaker 2: That could be something where hey, at Comic Con we
Speaker 2: don't have much. Uh, let's walk Q one stage and
Speaker 2: have them have a face off with Downy and be like,
Speaker 2: this is what's coming up. But I'm gonna say that's
Speaker 2: not yet. I think Downy, I think Hugh Jackman is
Speaker 2: gonna be in Doomsday, but I think it's gonna be
Speaker 2: in like a post credit or like a yeah tease
Speaker 2: to the next one. That's your surprise. And then for
Speaker 2: Secret Wars, then he's on the posters. I've said this
Speaker 2: since the beginning of Geek First, a two billion dollar
Speaker 2: movie by itself is just Downing on one side of
Speaker 2: a poster and Hugh Jackman, and now Downy's a bad guy.
Speaker 2: You can have those two face and off. That is
Speaker 2: a huge thing. Along with you could get Evans and Toby.
Speaker 2: But I think you yeah, I think to me, Hugh
Speaker 2: and Downey when I think about the mount Rushmore of
Speaker 2: comic castings though for Marvel especially though that's one and
Speaker 2: two to me that they led their generations. Told me
Speaker 2: not as much because Hugh did it for so Hugh
Speaker 2: and Downey did it for so long, right, So that's
Speaker 2: one A one B of like the top dog they're
Speaker 2: rocking Austin to refer the gimmick, you know, like they
Speaker 2: are cut from that cloth. So that's where. But I'll say,
Speaker 2: no official announcement Hugh j Acman yet, but it's it's
Speaker 2: always possible again, bad news day, some controversy. Hey, let's
Speaker 2: just put out hughes in it and everyone will be happy, right, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think, David, I'm inclined to agree. Again,
Speaker 3: it's one of those you know, it's happening, so unless
Speaker 3: they just need to pull that card out for whatever
Speaker 3: reason again like we've got nothing going on, we have
Speaker 3: no talking points, or we need to cover up something
Speaker 3: else that's going on. More controversies coming out with you know,
Speaker 3: writers on certain movies or Blake gets pushed back again,
Speaker 3: Hey we need some good news remember this.
Speaker 2: Guy, or even like F four bombs, like let's say
Speaker 2: comes out and kills and let's say F four comes
Speaker 2: out and it's like Quantumni and they're like, fuck, we
Speaker 2: gotta get people really excited. That's push the out right now,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm with you at that point. I think that's
Speaker 1: people love you, people love Ryan Reynolds say they love
Speaker 1: the characters at this point. But I think there's somebody
Speaker 1: to be said where if you keep it, keep it
Speaker 1: there when it doesn't need to be in the zeitgeist,
Speaker 1: when it doesn't have to be there, it ruins the
Speaker 1: excitement and the the the pull of oh, I can't
Speaker 1: wait to when it's next. We all know it's coming.
Speaker 1: We're all pretty faithful it's coming. We don't need to
Speaker 1: be told like it'll be one of those Oh I'm
Speaker 1: glad it's here, but we all knew it was coming.
Speaker 1: It's not going to land as well as when we
Speaker 1: actually find oh god, he was coming back in Deadpool
Speaker 1: like that blew the internet down at that point. That's
Speaker 1: not going to land as well. Yeah, so yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: with you on that one. All right. My next one, well,
Speaker 1: telling to what Travis said for his billion dollars, So
Speaker 1: I'm going to say the collective box office of the
Speaker 1: MCU this year will reach a billion dollars. But to
Speaker 1: your point, there will not be a billion dollar movie
Speaker 1: this year. Okay, so all three movies collectively will give
Speaker 1: the MCU a billion dollars.
Speaker 2: I think you're right on that one. I think the
Speaker 2: only worries if you get to like if David's predictions
Speaker 2: right off, like Cat being under three.
Speaker 1: Seventy, then another I said it behind you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think F four to me at least is
Speaker 2: going to hit six hundred. That's my goal post. Like
Speaker 2: people might have bigger stuffy f word to me, as
Speaker 2: I said, is not as big. So if you can
Speaker 2: get three hundred, you just need the other two to
Speaker 2: perform some reason you can get there. So I think
Speaker 2: it will be a billion. If it's not, that's another
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty three a bad year. We got to
Speaker 2: reshuffle some stuff.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I'm I'm gonna have to agree with that.
Speaker 3: I have a feeling that Fantastic four minimum is going
Speaker 3: to make at least half a billion. I'm thinking somewhere
Speaker 3: in the six fifty range. I don't think that, while
Speaker 3: I do think Brave New World is not going to
Speaker 3: make as much as the original cap even if it's
Speaker 3: stalls out at three point thirty and you're still going
Speaker 3: to get a good chance. And then when it comes
Speaker 3: to Thunderbolts, I have a feeling that even though a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't know that Thunderbolts know of them,
Speaker 3: they're still going to make more than what the Marvels made,
Speaker 3: which was two seventy five.
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 3: So as long as they make more than that, your
Speaker 3: your golden on that I think that you were clear
Speaker 3: a billion between the three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be, it'll be. It'll be interesting to see that.
Speaker 1: But you're right when it comes down to it. The way,
Speaker 1: if if somehow, like we're saying, if if Captain America
Speaker 1: Brave New World overperforms, it gets anywhere close to five
Speaker 1: hundred million, that's happening. It's it's it's that that'll happen.
Speaker 1: Thunderbolts could be the end up being the underperformer in
Speaker 1: as long as Fantastic four comes over five hundred, then
Speaker 1: they clear a billion. So all right, uh, David, you're fourth.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Uh My next one is that, yeah, I was about
Speaker 3: to say thirty. My next one is that we will
Speaker 3: get a full look at the champions lineup Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So you're saying official Champions announcement.
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm a fifty to fifty on that one. I
Speaker 2: could see them doing that at Comic Con. But then
Speaker 2: at the same time, in my prediction of Hawkeye too,
Speaker 2: I wonder if they would wait, but I could still
Speaker 2: see them doing that, So I'm I'm fifty to fifty
Speaker 2: on I think it's I think it's a possibility, but
Speaker 2: I I'd have to see like the timing of that,
Speaker 2: and I'll too if they don't want to worry of
Speaker 2: one stepping on the other's toe, or if they really
Speaker 2: want to link the projects. So I'm not sure, but
Speaker 2: I'm fifty to fifty on that I could see it happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this will tie into probably what I'm gonna do next.
Speaker 1: From my exprediction at that point, it doesn't specially a
Speaker 1: revolver around Champions. But considering that rumors in the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks have really started picking up on that
Speaker 1: they've not I think this week was like they pretty
Speaker 1: much have signed most of the cast. Yeah, and in principle,
Speaker 1: and then I guess what was a writer or director
Speaker 1: is now pretty much a yeah, that's signing a deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're in final talks. Is what I last saw.
Speaker 1: Rumored for which one writer or director for director director? Okay,
Speaker 1: so and then we know it's going to be right now.
Speaker 1: Rumor has it pretty solid and it's gonna be a series.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it would be a good sec thing, you know,
Speaker 1: just in the sense of you've got a new generation
Speaker 1: of just coming in at that point and for not
Speaker 1: talking venders. But it's just it's something to build on
Speaker 1: the platform, something interesting, something a little different. You know.
Speaker 1: We've heard all these different rumors of different Disney Plus
Speaker 1: shows that are green light and things like that, including Nova.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, I'm a little more than fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty on it, but I think there's a strong possibility
Speaker 1: for it. So all right, so number four, Actually, let's
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Speaker 1: all right, Going to number four, Travis.
Speaker 2: All right, So the first three I think obviously they
Speaker 2: could happen, could not happen, but I feel like they're
Speaker 2: more in the realm of like, Okay, no billion dollar
Speaker 2: MC movie, sure Hawk, I've heard rumors. God, what was
Speaker 2: the other one? I said here? Oh no, Hugh like,
Speaker 2: these are ones that I think are plausible. So now
Speaker 2: these lasts, so'll get a bit more more I'm not
Speaker 2: saying crazy, but a bit more risky. So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go the opposite side of the Hugh Jackman. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say that in twenty twenty five, Andrew Garfield will be
Speaker 2: officially announced to be in Spider Man four, because I
Speaker 2: think if it does happen, I think there's no point
Speaker 2: this go around of doing the same thing again where
Speaker 2: let's hide them. It's like, no, you did that already.
Speaker 2: This is the time where you put them on the posters.
Speaker 2: You have Tom and and you do hot ones together
Speaker 2: like all the stuff we said that are.
Speaker 1: We gonna get bearded looking GQ like, sure, do what
Speaker 1: you want, like the ladies.
Speaker 2: He can do the ultimate Spider Man Peter Parker like,
Speaker 2: do that give him that storyline? Maybe he lose powers whatever,
Speaker 2: But I think this go around, and we have heard
Speaker 2: some rumors. Obviously, I guess we're hearing rumors about push
Speaker 2: Sure and Hull, but we had heard some rumors about
Speaker 2: a month ago that they were which I thought was dumb.
Speaker 2: The idea was that they wanted this to be similar
Speaker 2: to Deadpoome Wolverine, that they wanted to feel like it
Speaker 2: was a team up movie. Right, Well, that was No
Speaker 2: Way Home. That was a team up movie. But I
Speaker 2: think what they mean is from the get go where
Speaker 2: it is posters of Tom with somebody, and I think
Speaker 2: there's a whole slew of promotion that they missed out on.
Speaker 2: And I'm fine because they were successful. They were bigue
Speaker 2: and everything like that with No Way Home. But I've
Speaker 2: always said this that there's so much stuff you could
Speaker 2: do with them on the lead up to that movie
Speaker 2: that would be tons of fun. And I think it
Speaker 2: would be something new and maybe this is the set
Speaker 2: up secret Wars or whatever. And we've heard people say
Speaker 2: that Garfield, the Garfield stuff, has come up more than
Speaker 2: totalby coming back, I think he's more likely. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say Garfield will be officially announced for Spider Man,
Speaker 2: for Washman Gets Screwed. Them just announced with Secret Wars.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say it is gonna end up being
Speaker 2: more multiverse stuff and Garfield's gonna come back, and I
Speaker 2: think it will be a similar maybe not a two hander,
Speaker 2: but to Deadpool and Wolverine, ish of those two doing something.
Speaker 1: So with your thoughts, David, it's a risky, but.
Speaker 3: It is risky. It is risky, and I I want
Speaker 3: I want to see Garfield returning. I definitely. I mean,
Speaker 3: I love the guy. I think that just his entire
Speaker 3: personality and things like that. I love him getting a
Speaker 3: resurgence with this character because I mean, realistically, Amazing Spider
Speaker 3: Man two was not a good movie, but he was
Speaker 3: good as Spider Man. Like the faults that I have
Speaker 3: with Amazing Spider Man had zero to do with him.
Speaker 3: It was everything else with that movie. So how its frisky,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna go with you. I'm gonna give it
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 1: I will say this, like if you have not seen
Speaker 1: We Live in Time, outstanding movie. Garfield and Pugh do
Speaker 1: an amazing job together. Been and Andrew Garfield fan since
Speaker 1: the first s on the screen. Love them as Spider
Speaker 1: Man and you know, getting his his moment given back
Speaker 1: to him and No Way Home is I think if
Speaker 1: I believe yes, if we're going multiverse, yes, Andrew's coming back.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to not be secretive about that.
Speaker 1: I just don't think they're going to do it this early.
Speaker 1: I think they will announce it. I just don't think
Speaker 1: it's going to be this year.
Speaker 2: Could be December thirtieth to that.
Speaker 1: Fine, when you still went out, you will still win out.
Speaker 1: I'd find the heart wants it. I just know Sony
Speaker 1: is going to do what Sony does, yeah, and just
Speaker 1: make dumb decisions in the sense of like how they're
Speaker 1: going to do things. And I just think that right
Speaker 1: now they're going to just hold it a little bit closer.
Speaker 1: But I think that they're not going to pull No
Speaker 1: Way Home and try to like him being the werewolf
Speaker 1: and denying it up and down. I think they're going
Speaker 1: to be a little bit and this says a lot smarter.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Which also had screwed me too, is that they
Speaker 2: might just film, we might get delayed and stuff like
Speaker 2: that right where it happens, but it doesn't happen this year.
Speaker 2: But that's what I said. I'm gonna make a wild one.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so all right, so my next one bitting
Speaker 1: between the two. All right, a playoff of what I
Speaker 1: did last year. But I think it's finally gonna happen.
Speaker 1: We will see the beginnings of our new Avengers lineup
Speaker 1: starting this year. It'll actually to test before we haven't
Speaker 1: eve gotten the Avengers line up. I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: start seeing the Avengers line up start happening.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's see, how do we how do we
Speaker 2: are they? How would you define this is officially? Because
Speaker 2: if is it just like thor popping up in a
Speaker 2: Captain America and we'd be like, hey, cab or is
Speaker 2: it officially them saying like the word Avengers or I.
Speaker 1: Think in the sense of like stay for I'll use
Speaker 1: this as example. I'm not saying that this is what's
Speaker 1: gonna hold on this particular one, but say like we
Speaker 1: get to Brave New War World and we get post
Speaker 1: credits or something to the effect of him starting to
Speaker 1: recruit someone to didn't make an Avengers team.
Speaker 2: I would accept that because also too, they have Harrison
Speaker 2: for in the tray. They're talking about setting the Avengers
Speaker 2: back up right as like a government pro No I
Speaker 2: think we want to.
Speaker 1: America an official part of the US government.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then to get the Avengers back going. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I could say I hope, I hope just even a couple.
Speaker 2: I hope even a couple. I know people are gonna say, oh, well,
Speaker 2: you know Avengers one, we didn't you know, they didn't
Speaker 2: announce that before. Yeah, but there was only four, like
Speaker 2: four characters. We knew who they were gonna be in this.
Speaker 2: We've got a Moonnight, We've got a Sheet Halt, there's Daredevil,
Speaker 2: there's cap Thorists around like, there is literally dozens of characters.
Speaker 2: You could make a case that star Lord could be
Speaker 2: an Avenger he's on Earth. Like, there's so many characters.
Speaker 2: That's why I think there should be more clear definition.
Speaker 1: He just recruits Joaquin, Yeah, Falcon to it. I mean
Speaker 1: I still counts there were still forming it. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they're gonna three out of five. No, I'm not
Speaker 1: going that that crazy. I'm just saying we're finally gonna
Speaker 1: see the start of our new Avengers on it. Because again,
Speaker 1: I think it is going to be the most ridiculous
Speaker 1: thing that when we get if we get to Avengers
Speaker 1: Doomsday and that's when we see our first Avengers. That
Speaker 1: is just another black mark on this whole three three
Speaker 1: sog three phase thing that we have yet to see
Speaker 1: Avengers in the first time we see any formation of
Speaker 1: them is Avengers Doomsday. That's ridiculous and that and that's
Speaker 1: a big mistake on Fike's part, and.
Speaker 2: I think a big mistake from everybody that I know.
Speaker 2: People said, all, that's the way things are, but to
Speaker 2: make the Avengers always though, oh, this is the movie
Speaker 2: that has forty to sixty characters. That should be the case,
Speaker 2: because now every time we do Avengers movies, that's what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen. Then I would love it if they pull
Speaker 2: the Age of Ultron where the end credit is him
Speaker 2: with multiple characters. I think that would be fantastic and
Speaker 2: be really hyped. But I'm not gonna hold my breath,
Speaker 2: but I'll say you're right, I think so. I think
Speaker 2: with Ford said talk saying the word Avengers, you got
Speaker 2: to give us something, even just a member, you know,
Speaker 2: but this be the start one. Yeah, And I would
Speaker 2: say to them, you could do jokin, but I would
Speaker 2: say make it a big Avenger like go ghosts and
Speaker 2: who is that? I don't know. Before I was a
Speaker 2: Captain Marvel, I don't think she's a big Avenger. More
Speaker 2: black Panther, we'll tuple layer. We don't even know what's
Speaker 2: going on there. I don't even know who is a
Speaker 2: big character now for me, it's it sounds weird, but
Speaker 2: it's like Hemsworth's the War, like get him back in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: who knows.
Speaker 1: So, David, I know you had some internet troubles. My
Speaker 1: prediction was that we will see the New Avengers start
Speaker 1: forming this year, and kind of my qualification for that
Speaker 1: as being like the example being the like post credit
Speaker 1: scene or at the end of Brave New World, he's like,
Speaker 1: for instance, he makes his first recruit let's just call
Speaker 1: it Joaquin the New Falcon is saying you're I'm forming
Speaker 1: the New Avengers or my first recruit.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go and agree with you on that one,
Speaker 3: because I did have that as one of my backups,
Speaker 3: because like I had my I had two backups just
Speaker 3: in case, and that was one of my backups that
Speaker 3: we would see a formation of the New Avengers. So
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to be inclined to agree with you
Speaker 3: again who that is going to be. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I I did originally think like you guys were talking
Speaker 3: about Chris Himsworth's Thor coming in in a post credit
Speaker 3: one of the originals coming into basically Christen Anthony Mackie's
Speaker 3: Captain America as mac give give him the rub and say,
Speaker 3: I view us Captain America as well, so everyone else will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's why I've never understood with the they're just
Speaker 2: rumors and the thing has changed. But I never understood
Speaker 2: with almost every line up rumor. We got a rumored
Speaker 2: lineup was all new people, and I thought, to me, like,
Speaker 2: you gotta go the Ultimate Event or the new Avengers
Speaker 2: route where you do a mix cap and ironmn stuck around,
Speaker 2: but then you had Spidey and you had Luke Cage Like,
Speaker 2: it's to me, I think that hurts the audience of Oh,
Speaker 2: it's everybody knew because get Banner back on there, get
Speaker 2: the war back on. You know, It's just I think
Speaker 2: they they need that. But now who knows what doomsday.
Speaker 2: I think it's just another Infinity War where it is
Speaker 2: thirty different characters.
Speaker 1: And even if you look at you know, Jed McKay's
Speaker 1: current run of Avengers, at that point you have Black Panther.
Speaker 1: You have Captain Marvel leading the team. You have Captain
Speaker 1: America Sam Wilson on it, like you have iterations Scarlett
Speaker 1: Witch visions on it. You have like people who have
Speaker 1: maybe not been an original member of the Avengers, but
Speaker 1: they've been Avengers at some point. So it's not an
Speaker 1: entirely kind of hard thing. You have to have legacy,
Speaker 1: but you also have some new blood there, so you're right.
Speaker 2: There, even scar which like the prominent Avengers member. Right,
Speaker 2: it's one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think anyone Civil War era and before counts
Speaker 3: for me as a prominent Avenger. Now, yeah, once you
Speaker 3: start getting into end game, it gets a little bit
Speaker 3: muddy with everyone just coming together. But I think if
Speaker 3: if you're counting anyone Avenger, yeah from the uh from
Speaker 3: Civil War timeline beforehand, I think that those should all
Speaker 3: count as prominent Avengers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, what's your fourth one, David?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Fourth one is two cast members from the Defenders series
Speaker 3: will make an appearance in Daredevil. Now that's not just
Speaker 3: the Defenders themselves, the four of them, but also it
Speaker 3: could be your sidekicks. It could be miss denied, you
Speaker 3: could get the daughter the ones.
Speaker 1: We have not officially heard from like, we're not counting Burenthal.
Speaker 1: Correct defend well he wasn't a Defender anyways, so correct.
Speaker 3: But you could get a Luke Cage cameo. You could
Speaker 3: get Jessica Jones, you could get a Misty Knight, you
Speaker 3: could get a Colleen Wing. You you know, so many
Speaker 3: different options there. But somebody from the Defenders.
Speaker 1: Don't give me hope about Colleen Wing. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: don't give me that hope. I like it. We've heard
Speaker 1: rumors in the sense of like they're they're they're doing
Speaker 1: right by my I could see so you said you
Speaker 1: just said two. You said two. Yep, Okay, I I
Speaker 1: would like it. I think there's a strong possibility. I'd
Speaker 1: say we get one out of o. We're getting too.
Speaker 1: I think there will save Maybe we'll get like some
Speaker 1: kind of cool cameo in the first season and they're
Speaker 1: gonna save something for the next season. They're getting ready
Speaker 1: to start filming.
Speaker 2: So for me, what a character like Turk count?
Speaker 3: Yes, because Turk was Turk was prominent, Turk was a
Speaker 3: thread throughout Turk would count.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say true. I mean, I'm gonna say yes
Speaker 2: because I think it's gonna be characters like that. I
Speaker 2: know overyone jumps. Oh it would be you know, Luke
Speaker 2: Cage or Jessica Jones. I don't even think Jessica Jones
Speaker 2: could be one.
Speaker 1: Even if it's a small humor to be a part
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. We heard those rumors that she was
Speaker 2: supposed to have a bigger role and then I got reduced.
Speaker 2: But she still might be in it.
Speaker 1: But I think you could be an echo too.
Speaker 2: Right, I forgot about that. So you could see Turk,
Speaker 2: you could see some other you said, Missy Knight, some
Speaker 2: other side character like that. There's that character that remember
Speaker 2: Karen used to work for the publisher of uh whatever.
Speaker 2: The it wasn't Daily Bugle because I couldn't say it,
Speaker 2: but remember he was the white ball guy who has
Speaker 2: been York's boss. Yeah. Yeah, Like, I think you could
Speaker 2: see multiple people like that where it's like there's a
Speaker 2: scene or something you're.
Speaker 1: Saying all that. Yeah, especially those side I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've convinced me. I think I think there's definitely there's
Speaker 1: there's too many ones that that could be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mari's got a good point there too.
Speaker 2: Claire, Yeah, easy one. Even though I don't think she'd
Speaker 2: have like a side supporting rolling Shit of the other ones.
Speaker 2: But I think that she could just an appearance something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: So I would never turn down for Zario Dawson.
Speaker 1: So yes, I'm already in the family. It's an easy call,
Speaker 1: all right. Mario also says some curious how, if at all,
Speaker 1: the Guardians will be brought back into the Fold.
Speaker 2: I really don't like the other than Peter, which is easy.
Speaker 2: He's on Earth, right, He's on Earth.
Speaker 1: Coming back right, Starlo World Lord.
Speaker 2: Easy thing. He's hanging out his grandpa and attack happens
Speaker 2: where he lives that he's back in the Fold, right,
Speaker 2: Like he's an easy one. The rest, I think it's
Speaker 2: just gonna be like Endgame or in Finny War, where
Speaker 2: there's like a mission in their kind of a side,
Speaker 2: like not to be mean, but like the Guardians, the
Speaker 2: Guardians that are the actual Guardians of Galaxy kind of
Speaker 2: suck now, Like it's like Adam, It's like Adam wool Warlock,
Speaker 2: it's Cosmo, it's what, it's Kraglin, it's isn't there a
Speaker 2: kid now? They can do something with their mind.
Speaker 1: Like they're not our child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like I'm not saying that for us, like
Speaker 2: I'm saying the GA. I think they're clamming for people
Speaker 2: like Amantis Nedla, and they'll just find a way. Batista's
Speaker 2: not coming back, he's done, especially the way he's slimmed down,
Speaker 2: like he's not bulking back up to be fight down
Speaker 2: in a CGI room. So I think, really it's just
Speaker 2: gonna be star Lord. And I say, star Lord, I
Speaker 2: guess you still out. So I think they'll be just
Speaker 2: in those are CGI characters. There's a mission there, in
Speaker 2: a battle, that's it. I think it's mostly star Lord.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, so last ones.
Speaker 2: It's my last one. Okay. So this is where I
Speaker 2: agreed with what Chris said, but I had something similar
Speaker 2: about it in the X Men realm, so I don't
Speaker 2: really know where, but it's stuff like when we got
Speaker 2: the Marvels, we do not pin that, Oh we're gonna
Speaker 2: see Kelsey grounds beasts in the end credits, right, it
Speaker 2: was very random.
Speaker 1: Biggest surprises I think of that year.
Speaker 2: Yes, So what I'm gonna say is we will see
Speaker 2: another X Men and or Mutant in a live action
Speaker 2: project this year. I'm saying live action because animation very easy.
Speaker 2: Like they did with what oh Storm's there. It's like,
Speaker 2: I don't want that in Friendly Neighborhood or Marvel Zombies.
Speaker 2: I'm saying live action, I'm saying mutant or x Men.
Speaker 2: So I guess technically a Miss Marvel pops up in something.
Speaker 2: I get the point because she is a mutant. But
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying is I don't know where it
Speaker 2: would be because obviously and cap you have adam Antian.
Speaker 2: So maybe something happens there Fantastic four. If that isn't
Speaker 2: another universe, maybe there is a different Egg Xavier or
Speaker 2: something there. I don't know. Thunderbolts, I don't think so,
Speaker 2: but again, maybe there's some random mutant they show we're
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: So depending on timeline, depending on where Thunderbolts falls in
Speaker 1: the timeline compared to Captain America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what I'm saying is an X Men
Speaker 2: slash mutant will appear in a live action project this year.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's another wild one. Man, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure, but.
Speaker 1: And ungraded ungraded to be like putting these ungraded ones
Speaker 1: on there. If they do, do we hear the no no, no, no, No, No,
Speaker 1: like they've like thrown in there.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought we would have because they
Speaker 2: did it for Miss Marvel, but they never did it
Speaker 2: again for any other.
Speaker 1: They didn't do for Beast.
Speaker 2: They didn't.
Speaker 1: We all knew what we're talking about here.
Speaker 2: Exavier didn't get a Multiverse of Madness. They didn't go
Speaker 2: anywhere near that dead Boel Wolverine, So.
Speaker 1: Didn't they know. I think they did for Multiverse Madness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Multiverse and Madness got one yet when they introduced it, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and Storm got one in what.
Speaker 1: If in the chat you can hopefully check us on that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. Fact, I'm gonna say I'm gonna agree
Speaker 1: with you because I think there is to the point
Speaker 1: of there. I'm fine with them building towards it and
Speaker 1: the idea that you already know mutes exist. We already
Speaker 1: think like we can. They can make a throwaway line
Speaker 1: and and have someone come up on screen. They can
Speaker 1: even refer to the weapon X program, you know, something
Speaker 1: that they're gonna do. Favor definitely did in Multiverse.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so there you go. It was I think
Speaker 2: it's in a different quarter tune though, right it wasn't
Speaker 2: the same as miss Marvel. But yeah, that's why I'm
Speaker 2: not recognized.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there is a strong possibility because even
Speaker 1: fig you said, like we're building towards it, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get hints hints at what the future is, and the
Speaker 1: future is the X Men.
Speaker 2: So yeah, And like I said, I think if it
Speaker 2: gets confirmed the F four movie is take place at
Speaker 2: any point in a different multiverse, I think I could
Speaker 2: easily get something there, like what happens if I don't
Speaker 2: think it is. But let's say Beast and his X Men.
Speaker 2: What if that's the universe that the F four comes from, right, Like,
Speaker 2: that's where I think you could get something because now
Speaker 2: they're they're doing that type of stuff. So I that's
Speaker 2: that's I'm not hoping it doesn't matter, but that's that's
Speaker 2: where I'm going with a more wild one.
Speaker 3: So yeah, ah yeah, I'm gonna have to rock with
Speaker 3: that one. Oh Okay, I I don't want to because
Speaker 3: that's closer to a chance that you could get all
Speaker 3: of your points.
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with whether you get.
Speaker 3: Especially I don't, but no, I I definitely all all
Speaker 3: that seems super super plausible.
Speaker 2: And like I said, if the Beast thing didn't happen.
Speaker 2: Maybe I wouldn't, but there's plausible for just a random
Speaker 2: appearance because the beast one who knows where that's going, right,
Speaker 2: But it happened.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, So my last one, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go so a little more specific, taking what I did
Speaker 1: last year but going to more specific. No, I got
Speaker 1: wrecked with it and Travis doesn't like losing two half points.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring back that, but I'm gonna be more
Speaker 1: specific with it this year. So hall H this year.
Speaker 1: This year, when it came down to it, let's just
Speaker 1: be honest, they didn't bring too much to hall H.
Speaker 1: You know they they really didn't bring anything new, like
Speaker 1: huge new outside of the the Robert Downey to do
Speaker 1: which was huge news and the name Dosday, m Marcus
Speaker 1: and mcphily like it. There are a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: like saying, okay because if they didn't have that, it
Speaker 1: really wasn't the panel like it. Really it was just
Speaker 1: Downy and Doomsday, Marcus mcphilly being officially coming back, not
Speaker 1: Marcus m philly, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is I think this is the year We're
Speaker 1: not gonna get a whole slate, but we're gonna get
Speaker 1: a little more with announcements. So I they will officially
Speaker 1: reveal one new MCU movie and one new Disney Plus show.
Speaker 1: They're tying into the idea of the Champions or stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I think they since there's no D twenty
Speaker 1: three this year, I think, like I said, brought up
Speaker 1: like we don't know outside of a Avengers Doomsday of
Speaker 1: Avengers Secret Wars, we don't have much officially left. We
Speaker 1: know Spider Man, but again that's we know. We don't
Speaker 1: have a lot. So I think they're gonna be forced
Speaker 1: to kind of show something on either platform. In this case,
Speaker 1: I'm saying both platforms, one from both platforms that they're
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna put out there of it and not
Speaker 1: saying a whole slate. They can still keep that close
Speaker 1: to this, but they will be revealing one new movie
Speaker 1: and one new Disney Plus show.
Speaker 2: I agree, and it has to be none that are
Speaker 2: name changed, but I agree, yes.
Speaker 1: I will now put that out there, no name changes.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think. I think I'm safe
Speaker 1: on that one.
Speaker 2: But I think it will happen because, like we said,
Speaker 2: if there is some slots in the movies for next year.
Speaker 2: I think we said, you know, thor Duc Strange maybe,
Speaker 2: and I think Disney Plus for sure. So I agree
Speaker 2: on that one that I think too broad, and that's
Speaker 2: like not too much. I think they they did a
Speaker 2: regression where they announced a lot and then it was
Speaker 2: too much. So it's like, let's not announce anything. I
Speaker 2: think it's so fun to announce something just I think
Speaker 2: that's a good balance of Okay, one show, one movie
Speaker 2: that's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm inclined to agree as well. The Disney
Speaker 3: Plus one I pretty much thought was guaranteed going to
Speaker 3: happen anyway, so now it's just throw in another movie
Speaker 3: on the slate. So I am I'm confident that that
Speaker 3: will happen in that could actually lead into my last one.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So you even think about like this too.
Speaker 1: When STEC happens, there's no more Marvel movies that year.
Speaker 1: There's nothing to get hyped for Marvel movie wise at
Speaker 1: that point, so they have to All they have is
Speaker 1: what's left with Disney Plus, and let's be honest, that's
Speaker 1: not necessarily hyping as much as they want with the
Speaker 1: general audience. The movies are what hypes the people, so
Speaker 1: they've got to start hyping the next year, and Avengers
Speaker 1: Doomsday is not going to be the only thing they
Speaker 1: need to hype them with.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying there's nothing, but I think the
Speaker 2: I'll maybe this isn't too small. I'll say there's fifteen
Speaker 2: percent of stuff they could announce for Disney Plus. It
Speaker 2: would maybe get people to subscribe or check it out.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anything they're willing to like.
Speaker 2: Of course, if I said, hey, we're doing an X
Speaker 2: Men movie that's all on Disney Plus, sure, but that's
Speaker 2: I mean, like realistic stuff that they would actually do
Speaker 2: on there. I think they've gone and everyone they pretty
Speaker 2: much can. I think there's some people, like you know
Speaker 2: that are hardcores with Daryed Devil will come back for that.
Speaker 2: But I think there's nothing out. It's just like, okay,
Speaker 2: let's keep those people happy. I don't think there is
Speaker 2: that big project where Okay, what could we announce. So,
Speaker 2: like you said, the Disney Plus thing, it helps fuel
Speaker 2: the machine, helps probably going, but that's not the main
Speaker 2: We've learned. That's not the main thing unless they maybe
Speaker 2: also here's the other part of the fifteen percent, get
Speaker 2: a a penguin or something like that that is critically acclaimed.
Speaker 2: But I don't think Marvel not trying to be mean.
Speaker 2: But I don't think they are doing that right now.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're looking for where's our showgun, where's
Speaker 2: our Game of Thrones. I think they just go, how
Speaker 2: can this get us to the next big movie?
Speaker 1: You know some of the criticism that they have at
Speaker 1: that point. So all right, David, your last one.
Speaker 3: All right, my last one is piggybacking off of your
Speaker 3: a movie. A new movie will be announced. Not only
Speaker 3: will a new movie be announced, but that movie will
Speaker 3: replace Blade. Blade is going to be officially taken off
Speaker 3: the slate and replaced by something else slate like official,
Speaker 3: like never gonna happen. Oh we are, we are done,
Speaker 3: and here's what we're doing. Instead, I feel like they
Speaker 3: are going to announce something different, and they will. You
Speaker 3: can even go as far as to say they will
Speaker 3: announce something with mahersha Ali and the Blade character. But
Speaker 3: Blade itself is not getting a movie.
Speaker 2: See that I can see. That's the only way I
Speaker 2: can see. Because I don't think they'll ever use the
Speaker 2: word canceled.
Speaker 1: I think they'll they're gonna they don't want to have
Speaker 1: that thing that they've never canceled something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the only one I would see is that
Speaker 2: they're say, hey, we're you know, right now, we're gonna
Speaker 2: put on a pause on Blade. But don't worry Mershalie
Speaker 2: is in Midnight Suns and they get people excited that way.
Speaker 2: But that's where I could see them announcing a new
Speaker 2: movie to take I guess it'd be different to if
Speaker 2: Blade gets dated again. So I'm like, I'm like a
Speaker 2: fifty I'm I think there will be a new movie
Speaker 2: announced that would hypothetically take the spot that Blade had,
Speaker 2: But I don't think they'll ever outright say it's been canceled.
Speaker 2: That's where all go on that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting thing. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna hold that one to make sure that.
Speaker 1: I think they want to keep the idea of Blade
Speaker 1: being a thing because we want it to be a thing.
Speaker 1: I want it. Even though I joke around it's a
Speaker 1: fake movie, I think that it's it's a character that
Speaker 1: deserves a new new, a new rebirth. At that point,
Speaker 1: thanks to Wesley's Snipe's giving it the birth rebirth that deserves.
Speaker 2: I guess the only way they would say canceled is
Speaker 2: I don't think he would ever do that. But if
Speaker 2: an interview of Off the Cuff, Oh yeah, the only
Speaker 2: way if Off the Cuff, if mahershaw Lee used that
Speaker 2: furver she said, yeah, that's canceled. I'm not doing anymore.
Speaker 2: And if they had to respond to it, sure, which
Speaker 2: you know, who knows, maybe you'll get upset about me,
Speaker 2: like I've been to I've been cast for five years
Speaker 2: and I've done I haven't watched it. Does he have
Speaker 2: a voice in the what if? Season? Is he therever?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Or is that Marvel Zombies coming up? Because he has Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he has a voice, come up Someway Zombies. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we haven't got that yet. So he's what done
Speaker 2: Marvel Zombies and a line and eternals like it is
Speaker 2: time to get As I've said before, even if you
Speaker 2: have to abandon the Blade movie and just put him
Speaker 2: in Avengers, just do that for now, Just get just
Speaker 2: get the man on screen so that at least like yeah,
Speaker 2: like and then peopill see him be like, oh I
Speaker 2: need this movie and then there's even more fuel that fire.
Speaker 3: But you know, I could see Marshal Awe straight up
Speaker 3: saying Blade was canceled, but I'm still going to be
Speaker 3: Blade in the MCU. Like. I don't know what that
Speaker 3: will look like, whether it be Midnight Suns or just
Speaker 3: you know, a scene in Doomsday or Secret Wars, but
Speaker 3: I think it is going to be just it's going
Speaker 3: to be canceled.
Speaker 1: Well, we will see, but those are our predictions at
Speaker 1: that point. We will for Factor fiction this week. Each
Speaker 1: one of us are just going to pick one of
Speaker 1: ours to put out for Factor Fiction this week, and
Speaker 1: basically every one of these is a Factor fiction when
Speaker 1: it comes down to it. So but yeah, so I
Speaker 1: think every everyone of we didn't have anyone that uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we we we wrecked David backups at that point,
Speaker 1: but at least you got at least you didn't have
Speaker 1: to go to them.
Speaker 2: That's yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's we didn't have a repeat of a
Speaker 1: kind of like last year with Brent and Travis at
Speaker 1: that point. So we will hold off and see exactly
Speaker 1: how well how well we all perform at this point,
Speaker 1: and see we'll revisit this in a year, gentlemen, to
Speaker 1: see exactly what happened and cheer when during the year
Speaker 1: when we get these right or wrong. So yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: so let us since there was no news this week,
Speaker 1: so it was a good time for us to do
Speaker 1: this and let us move on to feedback. At that point,
Speaker 1: we did got some stuff, So Dave, I'm gonna pull
Speaker 1: it back to fictions from last week and you lead
Speaker 1: us into the questions right now. I pulled those up.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: So we put out the call as per usual, and
Speaker 3: we got some feedback and said, so let's see here.
Speaker 3: First one from Anthony Dorsey. Now that what if is over?
Speaker 3: What would you like to see in a new in
Speaker 3: CU canon show?
Speaker 2: So wait a second, ms, you wouldn't that just be
Speaker 2: like Ironheart, Like that's gonna mean the Mu Cannon show, right?
Speaker 3: Or is he saying like another My guess is he's
Speaker 3: saying what type of new show to be announced or
Speaker 3: to come out that is going to be part of
Speaker 3: the NCU can and something that hasn't been already like
Speaker 3: Ironheart or Eyes of Wakanda.
Speaker 1: Okay, because this one I just completely new. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know Mari's question is going to be kind of
Speaker 1: similar in that sense, because I want to say one thing,
Speaker 1: but I want to say it for Omari's at that point.
Speaker 2: Completely new, so this is long term, because he didn't say, yeah,
Speaker 2: this long term. I would love them to have And
Speaker 2: some people might argue it might dilute the brand, but
Speaker 2: I think there's a way you do it. I would
Speaker 2: when we get to the Mune saga, I would love
Speaker 2: a show about being a youngster, and it could even
Speaker 2: be animated, but being a young students, not the students,
Speaker 2: And I know some people probably think that's lame, but
Speaker 2: I would want a type of even if it's an
Speaker 2: anthology of lower tier X Men, but just like classes,
Speaker 2: just what they do in the school. Because I know, Chris,
Speaker 2: you're not the biggest fan of them, but like, that's
Speaker 2: one of my favorite things in Harry Potter is those
Speaker 2: moments were just the kids learning spells or learning about this,
Speaker 2: or meeting a new teacher, which I think in the
Speaker 2: movies sometimes get lost. The school is just a the
Speaker 2: base for the X Men. We get a couple of
Speaker 2: school scenes, that's it. I would love to actually be
Speaker 2: some like a student, you know, a series about kids
Speaker 2: learning about you know, how to use their powers, what
Speaker 2: to do and what you know? What does Storm teach.
Speaker 2: What is Scott teach? Scott like we know, like Scott's
Speaker 2: a teacher and X Men what does he teach? What
Speaker 2: does he teach? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to be right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to teach history wrong. In
Speaker 2: first class they say teaches history but or in days
Speaker 2: of future past, but it's like what a storm teach?
Speaker 1: What was she like?
Speaker 2: That's why I'd like is say, well, X Men students
Speaker 2: show and.
Speaker 1: What I could recommend, and they actually do a Strange
Speaker 1: Academy the comic series Strange Academy they do.
Speaker 2: That is a see and that's another one I would
Speaker 2: take beause maybe they might go, let's not do x
Speaker 2: Men because we want to say that the movies. I
Speaker 2: take Strange Academy as well. There'd be another group one
Speaker 2: like young heroes with powers abilities learning stuff. And that's
Speaker 2: why it's also you keep it like a lower budget.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be a top tier show, but
Speaker 2: like it's something like Agatha when they kept it cheek
Speaker 2: and for me, Agatha is one of the better Disney
Speaker 2: Plus ones. So X Men first class. I don't know
Speaker 2: the first class, but first semester maybe I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe we'll go there. So that's my pitch, some sort
Speaker 2: of school show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, debating back to forths I can said, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hold one for a mart That's what I thought of
Speaker 1: with that. I trying to think in the sense of
Speaker 1: kind of looking at my collection in the back here,
Speaker 1: I could it's one of those ones. And then and
Speaker 1: they won't. They won't do it, and just because there's
Speaker 1: too there's too much of it. I adore this series
Speaker 1: and it was just so wild and out there savage
Speaker 1: Avengers you get, you get the you get the most
Speaker 1: like violent, like don't get give a crud about anything.
Speaker 1: We're talking the Avengers Black Ops team that people say,
Speaker 1: wasn't that the Thunderbolts now Thunderbolt Like I'm just talking
Speaker 1: like this is this is their true kind of like
Speaker 1: Avengers teams that just you wouldn't think they would ever
Speaker 1: be paired together that actually are Like that series had
Speaker 1: like Conan Brother, Voodoo, the Punisher, you know, electric like
Speaker 1: it had. It had some pretty hard hitters on that group.
Speaker 2: Maybe if Marls Zombies is a hit, that could be
Speaker 2: your next R rated animated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, venomals on it. You know, it's just it got nuts.
Speaker 3: So yeah, for me, the first thing I thought about
Speaker 3: is how they did with the Iron Group series for kids,
Speaker 3: and I've mentioned this in the Factor Vision before do
Speaker 3: a little Jeff the Shark Anthology series. I think it
Speaker 3: would just it'd be a fun thing for the kids,
Speaker 3: and I think adults could get a laugh out of it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you could even do the characters that they
Speaker 3: interact with in the same style of the characters from
Speaker 3: Marvel Rivals to tie in more to that game, to
Speaker 3: help give that game some more life, because while it's
Speaker 3: a good game now again, Marvel games traditionally do not
Speaker 3: have a long shelf life outside of Spider Man, so
Speaker 3: it'll be something to keep the shelf life of that
Speaker 3: going while also giving the kids a little something fun
Speaker 3: with some five ten minute episodes here and there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, I think that's a good pull there too.
Speaker 1: All right, as we've got Jim Scruggs with one.
Speaker 3: Yep, Jim Scruggs, And this is in reply to last
Speaker 3: week's Last week he had a question that said, why
Speaker 3: have there been so many Spider Man titles like Amazing,
Speaker 3: Spectacular Web of so on? Also, there a specific book
Speaker 3: that you prefer or is it more writer artists? And
Speaker 3: we gave him some recommendations. So his follow up question
Speaker 3: is this, were the other books slash storylines crossing into
Speaker 3: each other? Some did something in Spider Man or web
Speaker 3: Spiders cross into Amazing? Yes, depending on the event, is
Speaker 3: what crossed over? And it reminds me Spider Man in
Speaker 3: this sense reminds me a lot of dipping into the DCU.
Speaker 3: What happens a lot with Batman and its many titles
Speaker 3: where when it's convenient they do have that crossover. It
Speaker 3: will say, hey, read this for this, read this for this,
Speaker 3: read this for this. And it also gives them some
Speaker 3: time within those other stories to expound on on his
Speaker 3: interactions with side characters or his history with side characters
Speaker 3: and things like that, while Amazing may just focus on
Speaker 3: your overarching story that we're getting at. So there there
Speaker 3: are times when they delve into the other books, where
Speaker 3: they combine the other books, or you have to read
Speaker 3: more than one thing in a week in order to
Speaker 3: grasp the full story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it was one of those where I kind
Speaker 1: of stuck out my mind. I was just kind of
Speaker 1: pulling up on Marvel and Limited at that point. A
Speaker 1: good example that a nice one is recent and I
Speaker 1: can't remember how many old it is. The other storyline
Speaker 1: in Spider Man is starting your friendly neighborhood. You had
Speaker 1: amazing tied end, you had spectacular tied into it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so there are It's very much like you said, it
Speaker 1: was a great pull with saying like Batman crossovers with
Speaker 1: all the other titles at that point, do you have
Speaker 1: to read it? It depends on how much. And I'd
Speaker 1: say with the other storyline, yeah, you kind of needed
Speaker 1: to because everything it was kind of tied into the
Speaker 1: ongoing storyline was going through. But sometimes yeah, with certain
Speaker 1: events like you pull a like Kingyan Black, you know,
Speaker 1: absolute carnage, you didn't need to read the times that
Speaker 1: the main event was just enough at that point. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they they do that. They haven't done that in a
Speaker 1: and well in a little bit like I know they
Speaker 1: did it like with Gang Gang War at that point, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just wasn't good. So yes, they do that.
Speaker 3: So when it came to like the Spiderverse series, there
Speaker 3: was a lot of pool from here, pool from there.
Speaker 3: But with most of the stuff now you can read
Speaker 3: whatever the main title is. And then of course, as
Speaker 3: with comics history as a whole. You'll have the little
Speaker 3: blurb see Amazing Spider Man this, see Friendly neighborhood issue
Speaker 3: this to figure out why these two are now interacting.
Speaker 3: So if you want the full scope, then yeah, you
Speaker 3: dive into another book here there. But for the most
Speaker 3: part with things, you just have to read whatever that
Speaker 3: main title is in order to get the story.
Speaker 1: Yep. So all right, last one from Amari.
Speaker 3: All right from Amari Daniels. Say you wake up and
Speaker 3: you're figgy after rolling around in Disney Bucks for hours.
Speaker 3: I'll ask Screws McDuck. You're allowed to green light one
Speaker 3: MCU project to go into production. This can include Disney
Speaker 3: plus shows, but not anything already being developed or in
Speaker 3: developmenttal Health. For me, it's Defenders season two.
Speaker 1: For me, it's ghost Rider. I don't care what Taylor
Speaker 1: and I are going to die in. That ship's ghost Cosmic,
Speaker 1: Robbie Reyes, Danny Katch, Johnny Blade, I don't care. Give
Speaker 1: me my ghost Rider.
Speaker 2: For me because I said, nothing that's currently announced and
Speaker 2: non development some of his blades. This is something that's
Speaker 2: off the wall, but you know I'm rocking the shot
Speaker 2: my guy over there, Moonnight. I want another crack at that,
Speaker 2: but I want like a full long like what the penguin. God,
Speaker 2: that's what I want Moon Night. I don't want to
Speaker 2: end with an alligator, giant alligator in Egypt. A hip out,
Speaker 2: Yeah that too, like I think that you know someone
Speaker 2: maybe wouldn't be exactly him, but get a Brian Fuller
Speaker 2: who did Hannibal. I don't think Moonnight is the worst
Speaker 2: in the m so you know we're far from it.
Speaker 2: It's just my maybe my most disappointing one because I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think there's yes easily with a with a bullet,
Speaker 2: but for me, it's my most disappointed thing that's happened.
Speaker 2: So that, to me is what I would want is
Speaker 2: a kind of a one off and very prestige television.
Speaker 2: I think the show at times was there. There were
Speaker 2: moments it could have been that, but then I don't
Speaker 2: know where it kind of went. I think the kind
Speaker 2: of the multi season and one season thing where it's
Speaker 2: like three episodes he was here, three episodes he was there,
Speaker 2: I think that kind of got messy. So that's what
Speaker 2: i'd want is a Moonnight doesn't really need to be
Speaker 2: connected to anything, almost a Moonnight special presentation even that
Speaker 2: like something very trippy and very heavy, because I think
Speaker 2: they they touched on stuff in the Moonlight. They could
Speaker 2: have went there, but I would definitely want to be
Speaker 2: closer to the Jeff Lemir run. So that's what it was.
Speaker 2: Another crack at it.
Speaker 1: So and I think to your point with that one,
Speaker 1: like even the current oeration of Moonnight, you don't have
Speaker 1: to do so much of the three or four different personalities.
Speaker 1: Like you can stick to yes like mister Knight and
Speaker 1: convergi him from miss like he is mister Knight when
Speaker 1: he's kind of like Midnight missions things like that, and
Speaker 1: then when he's had to cry, he is Moonnight. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't have to go too much with the multiple
Speaker 1: personage because I think it was they tried it. It
Speaker 1: was okay points, other points became very gimmicky, and I
Speaker 1: don't think that was the That's not the point of
Speaker 1: those those split personalities.
Speaker 3: I agree. So yeah, oh for me, it is Heroes
Speaker 3: for Hire. Yeah, I think that you can kind of
Speaker 3: give it a Hawkeye feel with that street level but
Speaker 3: still having fun with it type deal. I mean, you
Speaker 3: can bring back up my culture has Luke Cage if
Speaker 3: you want to recast Iron Fist. I wouldn't be mad
Speaker 3: at it, but hey, I Ben can get in another
Speaker 3: crack at it if he's willing to. But even with that,
Speaker 3: you can also bring in other characters who have been
Speaker 3: a part of him. So you can bring Miss niteback,
Speaker 3: you can bring Colin Wing back, you can you know,
Speaker 3: have shunk Chi appear in some episodes. You can bring
Speaker 3: in so many other characters. You can have some run
Speaker 3: ins with so many people that can just add to those.
Speaker 3: You can bring she Hulk back in a different way.
Speaker 3: Like there's there's so many ways that you can use
Speaker 3: this and have it just as a show that has
Speaker 3: a running thread but also has those fun moments like
Speaker 3: they did with Hawkeye. I think it would fit that
Speaker 3: Hawkeye mode perfectly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's good. All right, So we're gonna
Speaker 1: take our last ad break before in combook Club because
Speaker 1: I know post credits is gonna take us just a
Speaker 1: little bit at that point. But are you out of here, Travis?
Speaker 1: I'm good, Okay, you did this little thing with your head,
Speaker 1: dusty trail, So we're gonna take a last ad break. Well,
Speaker 1: do combook Club, and like I said, stick around post
Speaker 1: credits gonna be a little bit longer tonight just because
Speaker 1: it's it's an interesting rumor they were going to be
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Speaker 1: So all right, three two one, we will be right back,
Speaker 1: all right, and we are back. So all right, so
Speaker 1: Young Avengers around our pent ultimate issue of the first
Speaker 1: run of It, issue eleven. Uh, we are currently at
Speaker 1: the fight for who is claiming Hulkling as they we
Speaker 1: had the last issue where the Scrolls are claiming it
Speaker 1: and then we get the Creed coming out of the scene
Speaker 1: said no, you're ours, and we're enlisting you. I don't
Speaker 1: care what you are.
Speaker 3: Yes, this one is very interesting because it marks a
Speaker 3: seminal moment within two Young Avengers characters. But it does
Speaker 3: start off with that good back and forth about who
Speaker 3: you belong to, and you know, the Scrolls whole thing
Speaker 3: was you were born of our princess, so you're one
Speaker 3: of ours. So we're taking you back where the Creeds were.
Speaker 3: You were born of a cree soldier. So therefore by
Speaker 3: birth you become a Cree soldier. So that's why we
Speaker 3: want you back. It had nothing to do with his
Speaker 3: lineage for being a hero or anything like that. It's
Speaker 3: just no, this is your duty to the Kree army,
Speaker 3: so we are here to bring you back. And at
Speaker 3: this point, Holkling's like, yeah, no, I don't want any
Speaker 3: of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I particularly like, like, when we do get
Speaker 1: Tommy back in the MSU, I really wanted to be
Speaker 1: like this in the sense of just a somewhat psychotic
Speaker 1: in this in that when he says, I've got an
Speaker 1: idea what to do with these Cree that know, Tommy,
Speaker 1: we're not vaporizing. Dang, you know, just that kind of
Speaker 1: statistic one. At that point he's even more than his
Speaker 1: uncle is. But yes, we get the official revelation that
Speaker 1: Tommy and Billy are, you know, we get that kind
Speaker 1: of I love to get how they do. Vision gives
Speaker 1: like the cliff Notes version of the Wild History of
Speaker 1: the Twins at that and they and great writing at
Speaker 1: that point to just sum it all up within one page,
Speaker 1: who they are, how they came to be, how they
Speaker 1: didn't come to be, and how they're back now. At
Speaker 1: that point they within two pages, we get it, and yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna accept it. They are they are the
Speaker 1: twins of Scarlet Witch and Vision.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, come on you, you don't see it.
Speaker 3: You got speed, I'm a witch like it. It all
Speaker 3: makes sense. And then I didn't like the when they
Speaker 3: are talking to young Vision and they're like, okay, well
Speaker 3: Scarlett Witch is our mom, Then who's our dad.
Speaker 1: And he goes, it's me And it did reminds me
Speaker 1: of Travis and I go back and forth with this
Speaker 1: was the Earbart time, it was me Berry, it was
Speaker 1: me all along. But yeah, then we get this kind
Speaker 1: of mini cree versus girl going on over Manhattan because
Speaker 1: everything has to take place in New York in the
Speaker 1: MCU weet the Avengers showing up with the random appearance
Speaker 1: of Century and and Spider Woman, you know, just because
Speaker 1: we have to bounce that. Oh yeah, and on the
Speaker 1: ground we finally see Wolverine and Spider Man two because why.
Speaker 3: Not got the new Avengers going on exactly.
Speaker 1: So they all everyone's saying like, you gotta turn them
Speaker 1: over this, you gotta turn us over to this, and
Speaker 1: basically cap stakes the ground saying nope, he's staying here
Speaker 1: with us. He's like, no, then you're gonna need protection,
Speaker 1: and Patriot looks like he sacrifices up to protect Captain America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he takes a blast straight to it. He's laid
Speaker 3: out with a smoking sternum. You can tell he he
Speaker 3: got hit and he's knocked out, and Cap has his
Speaker 3: look on his face like, oh my, what have I done?
Speaker 1: Yep. So we will conclude our journey through Young Avengers
Speaker 1: next week with the final issue of that run. David
Speaker 1: and I will talk to see if we're gonna take
Speaker 1: just a little break form Compo Club, if or if
Speaker 1: we can come up with since this is our selection
Speaker 1: for the next for the next iteration of it. So
Speaker 1: I see this one in the chat, like, will you
Speaker 1: be there February first? What is February first?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I looked up. Okay, I think
Speaker 2: it's a bot or someone's trolling, gotcha? All right?
Speaker 1: Well it could be Worst Spots at that point, Yeah, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: So I've had DC bots in there that just want
Speaker 1: to talk to you and it's like you're on the
Speaker 1: wrong show man, Yeah, saying like our review that says
Speaker 1: like you just show stinks needs to talk more DC.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: Well that's all we got tonight, folks, outside of post credit.
Speaker 1: So but as always, thank you mister Sneill for coming
Speaker 1: on and course gracing us during your your current sabbatical
Speaker 1: from podcasting. But always great to have you back on
Speaker 1: Marvel Liance and it's always a good time with we
Speaker 1: get to talk about our predictions. So whenever you do
Speaker 1: come back on and know it will be a long time.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, exactly, it was tons of fun. Wouldn't miss
Speaker 2: this one. I think I'm happy before, but I try
Speaker 2: not to because it is a very good one. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll be excited to be back on here in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five. Not sure when, not sure when I'll be
Speaker 2: back to full time podcasting, but just follow me at
Speaker 2: Traspy still. Like I said, I'm not tweeting that much
Speaker 2: right now because I'm just kind of on a break.
Speaker 2: But when i'm back, you'll hear all about it and
Speaker 2: I'll be keeping busy and there'll be lots of exciting things,
Speaker 2: So stay tuned.
Speaker 1: David.
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Speaker 1: All right, post credits discussion, gentlemen, we are getting some
Speaker 1: very interesting rumors regarding the future of to Challa, and
Speaker 1: the recent rumors are going around that the recasting, the
Speaker 1: possible recasting f t Challa. So this is coming from
Speaker 1: Jeff Snyder. Oh yes, love them or hate them, you know,
Speaker 1: get some things wrong, get these things right at that point,
Speaker 1: but does have some sources. So yes, I know one
Speaker 1: of our faithful listeners, Phil. You know, everything we did
Speaker 1: can discount for him, but we all liked.
Speaker 2: He just passed up.
Speaker 1: He will he'll get he'll be uh texting me when
Speaker 1: the show comes out. As why are you giving this guys, daid, Well,
Speaker 1: it's post credit. That's why we're regular gating it to
Speaker 1: this just because it's an interesting discussion point. So this
Speaker 1: is what he said.
Speaker 2: We don't report the news, we just talk about yes,
Speaker 2: exactly so, but yeah.
Speaker 1: So this is the stuff he was saying on regarding this,
Speaker 1: and we also have a tag back to it.
Speaker 2: So uh.
Speaker 1: He was saying that with Marvel reshuffling the deck in
Speaker 1: advance of Avengers Doomsday and Avengers Secret Wars, Robert Downey
Speaker 1: Junior coming back not as I remember Doctor Doom, I'm
Speaker 1: told the door is firmly open for to Chilla to
Speaker 1: be recast via the magic of the multiverse, he said.
Speaker 1: I heard that an actor was actually offered the role
Speaker 1: that this past fall, a couple of months after Downy's
Speaker 1: big reveal a comic con, but they turned it down,
Speaker 1: not wanting to jeopardize their career momentum by stepping into
Speaker 1: Bozeman's gigantic shoes, which may be too big to fill
Speaker 1: even for Hollywood's most talented black actors. So now it's
Speaker 1: unclear whether Ta'challa will appear in Avengers Doomsday or Avenger's
Speaker 1: Secret Wars, but I think it's fair to assume that
Speaker 1: whoever is cast as the character will reprise the role
Speaker 1: in Black Panther three, which has been discussed by everyone
Speaker 1: from Ryan Kulgerger to Denzel Washington, now with this my
Speaker 1: time to shine. Hello. Another Scooper had a tag back
Speaker 1: to this, saying, it's not a recast, it's an older
Speaker 1: version of his son from Black Panther Wikonda Forever. So,
Speaker 1: taking all this together, what do y'all feel about this
Speaker 1: quote unquote recasting?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: I will go first, because I've had a lot of
Speaker 3: thoughts on this that i have posted publicly. I am
Speaker 3: not against a recasting. My only thoughts about a recasting
Speaker 3: is that if you are going to do it, this
Speaker 3: needs to make all the sense in the world, and
Speaker 3: you need to tread lightly. So this should not be
Speaker 3: a recast for the sake of recasting. The way that
Speaker 3: they paid reverence to not only to Child as a character,
Speaker 3: but to Chadwick Boseman with the funeral scene in Black
Speaker 3: Panther two was an amazing send off. So to just
Speaker 3: go back on that would kind of be a hard
Speaker 3: pill to swallow. This is not a situation where like
Speaker 3: with Don Cheetah, where you just put somebody else in
Speaker 3: a role because contracts and things like that. This was
Speaker 3: reflective of someone's actual life and death. The way that
Speaker 3: they changed this character Now, if this is an aging
Speaker 3: up of his son Toussaint, who we saw at the
Speaker 3: end of Black Panther two, who is going to be
Speaker 3: the next uh Prince T'Challa, then I am okay with that,
Speaker 3: and I even have a preferred actor already lined up
Speaker 3: for that for that line. How old are we going?
Speaker 3: Is Coleman dimigo around.
Speaker 1: Kevin Hard? Let's do Kevin Hard.
Speaker 5: For fan boy Clay he will I must say Clay
Speaker 5: Clay is yelling at his headphoss right now for that,
Speaker 5: I guarantee you know it actually be ah Jush to
Speaker 5: Decu who if you've seen the show Supercel, he was
Speaker 5: amazing and that he looks like an aged up version
Speaker 5: of the.
Speaker 3: Kid who played To'challa's son, and he has shown in
Speaker 3: super his physicality. So I am I'm all for that.
Speaker 3: If that is the route that they want to go,
Speaker 3: and if this son of T'Challa wants to take over
Speaker 3: the mantle a Black Panther or be part of the
Speaker 3: training for that, then I'm okay with that. But to
Speaker 3: just pop up with someone and say hey, there was hey,
Speaker 3: remember all that stuff that happened back in Spider Man
Speaker 3: and the Rift in the multiverse world. Look who we
Speaker 3: found and you just have this new T'Challa. I think
Speaker 3: that you do a great disservice to the character, and
Speaker 3: I think that that is a huge affront to Chadwick
Speaker 3: Boseman as a whole. I do know that from just
Speaker 3: a personal standpoint, the black community is pretty split with
Speaker 3: those who want a recast because they want the character
Speaker 3: Black Panther to live on because it means so much
Speaker 3: to us, versus those who don't want to recast because
Speaker 3: of the honor and the reverence of Chadwick Boseman. But
Speaker 3: I think as long as you do something that does
Speaker 3: not go against what you have done already and don't
Speaker 3: do it just for the sake of doing it, then
Speaker 3: I'm okay with a full on recast, But I would
Speaker 3: prefer an age up, and I would really prefer if
Speaker 3: j just Taedeku was that age up.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Travis, Yeah, I think on the
Speaker 2: scoop front, like you said, Sneyaner could be wrong, right,
Speaker 2: but that's almost every scoop right. Of course, there's something
Speaker 2: that gets them a lot more right. And this sounds
Speaker 2: like a case where he could have got some news
Speaker 2: about oh they were offered to Chala. But if your
Speaker 2: source isn't telling you it's like an older one, I
Speaker 2: could see why man Tishein would be like, no, it
Speaker 2: is an older one, it's not. I think it is
Speaker 2: that because I feel like it'd be odd for them
Speaker 2: to introduce his son in the last one and then
Speaker 2: do nothing with that. They're clearly setting that up. And
Speaker 2: for me where I've been, I'm the same where I
Speaker 2: am before. Where if you feelers should have been recast, I understand.
Speaker 2: If you feel there shouldn't have been, I understand. For me,
Speaker 2: it's a situation where there's not to put anyone down,
Speaker 2: but there's you're in a thousand years, there'll probably be
Speaker 2: dozens of iterations on screen of to' challa. Right, there's
Speaker 2: only been one Chadwick Boseman, and that's thing where that
Speaker 2: film was to honor him, honor him for that cast. Sure,
Speaker 2: you could recast, but at any point in tomorrow they
Speaker 2: could say, yet, we're just rebating Black Panther and this
Speaker 2: is to Challa. They wanted to do that type of film,
Speaker 2: and especially for Chadwick Boseman being the first, that's what's important. Though, right,
Speaker 2: there might be many black actors in the future that
Speaker 2: play well, imagine they have to be black. Many actors
Speaker 2: that will play to' challa.
Speaker 1: But we talked about that last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, we don't even lash. My thing is though,
Speaker 2: like hopefully in this situation, this never happens again. All
Speaker 2: these actors that played Chachalla, they finished their role, they
Speaker 2: retire and goes to someone else. This was a situation
Speaker 2: where an actor passed while doing the role, but also
Speaker 2: they passes being the the shepherd of it. They brought
Speaker 2: it and they got it to that huge iconic status right,
Speaker 2: So for me, I was always fine with I would
Speaker 2: get why they wouldn't recast them right away. For people
Speaker 2: that when fight said we won't be recasting black panther,
Speaker 2: for them to think that, okay, in even fifty years,
Speaker 2: there'll never be a new Chichalla again. I don't know
Speaker 2: what you're drinking over there. It must be something good,
Speaker 2: because everybody gets recast. It was just that, And of
Speaker 2: course people always read, well, his family's fine with it.
Speaker 2: I get that, I understand, but this is the choice
Speaker 2: they wanted to go with me. They didn't want to
Speaker 2: do that, and if it's his son, fine, I still
Speaker 2: think there's a version where Okay, they reboot the universe,
Speaker 2: and you could the same way, there could be a
Speaker 2: new actor playing Steve Rodgers. There's a new actor playing Cha'challa,
Speaker 2: and it's not Chadwick's Chaichalla, right, the same way of
Speaker 2: like even a comic book movie lore Hugh Jackman in
Speaker 2: dead Pool, Wolverene's not playing the X fox one right,
Speaker 2: the one in Logan he died. He's playing a new Wolverine.
Speaker 2: It just happens to be the same actor. I could
Speaker 2: see them in the next You're saying, hey, this is
Speaker 2: six one seven to Challa and it is played by
Speaker 2: David's pitch or Coleman Domingo or someone.
Speaker 1: Right, So for me, it's David Washington, Johnny Washington.
Speaker 2: For sure, he should play to chaka'challa. Yeah, it should
Speaker 2: be like the Council of Kings, but the counsel of
Speaker 2: To'challa is John Washington. But so for me, it's like
Speaker 2: there's no right answer because everyone feels differently about it.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with what they do and I'm willing to see,
Speaker 2: but I've always been fine with not to recast now
Speaker 2: and wait and if they want to been fine, you
Speaker 2: can't say oh enough times past because that works differently
Speaker 2: for everybody, right. But I think now if they were
Speaker 2: to announce there's a recast, people that didn't want to
Speaker 2: happen are probably more welcoming to it opposed to fresh
Speaker 2: off the wound when he passed away and we're going
Speaker 2: to Black Panther two, because I still think I know
Speaker 2: my last one is. I know the side of recast
Speaker 2: A Shalla always just wants a future. Cha'challa means a lot.
Speaker 2: I think there's tons of people that wouldn't have accepted
Speaker 2: a new actor right away as to Challa, like replacing Chadwick.
Speaker 2: I think that could have been really bad for that actor.
Speaker 2: It could have been really bad for the movie and
Speaker 2: could have sunk that character for a long time. Where
Speaker 2: we're Black Panther two, that they did something unique, something
Speaker 2: that I kind of they couldn't have, but I wish
Speaker 2: that even Nolan did with Dark Knight Rises. I always
Speaker 2: hate that joker in that movie is non existent. They
Speaker 2: didn't allude to him. They didn't, like you can't it's
Speaker 2: hard to tribute the Joker, right, but even just something
Speaker 2: to allude to all the jokers still out there. I've
Speaker 2: always loved the pitch that he was in r Arkha
Speaker 2: when they left him there. I like that Wakonda Forever
Speaker 2: was something to say goodbye to that actor.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I fIF Jack, I'll put yours into
Speaker 1: after my comment before we close it out. So they
Speaker 1: got backed into a corner in the sense of like
Speaker 1: Chadwick Boseman, amazing actor, became that part as the first
Speaker 1: that did such an amazing job that honoring them saying
Speaker 1: we're not gonna recast, but also to the point like
Speaker 1: you're saying, no one actor at that point and probably
Speaker 1: still right now once it's up in that role because
Speaker 1: of the reverence they have to Chadwick at that point.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like, well, we're going to say
Speaker 1: we're not going to recast because no one's going to
Speaker 1: want to take on that part legitimly, and the people
Speaker 1: we want to take on that part and to recast
Speaker 1: are not going to take on that part. So they're
Speaker 1: now I agree with you in the sense of what
Speaker 1: they did at the end with bringing in his son
Speaker 1: and saying like, Okay, this could be the future. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great idea that that's one way to do it. Now
Speaker 1: you're stuck in a situation where you've got Shuri as
Speaker 1: our black panther, and you know how long is that
Speaker 1: going to be or are we going to do this
Speaker 1: agent is that AGYPT does multiversal and just for that
Speaker 1: idea of what could the future could be. So when
Speaker 1: Suri wants to take on I mean again, nothing says
Speaker 1: we can't have two black panthers. You know, things change
Speaker 1: at that point. You know it is open to the opportunity. Yes,
Speaker 1: at some point we are going to get an official
Speaker 1: recast of T'Challa. It's going to happen. It's going to
Speaker 1: happen eventually. And again where they're at right now, I
Speaker 1: get it and I support it. But there will come
Speaker 1: a time, just like with everything, we're gonna get, as
Speaker 1: you said, Travis, a new Tony Stark, a new Steve Rodgers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of what Secret Wars is going to do.
Speaker 1: Allow the MCU to reboot, reset some people. Some people
Speaker 1: might stick around or they get just do thing. We're
Speaker 1: going to do a whole new thing and do a reset.
Speaker 1: These characters are bigger than the people they are at
Speaker 1: in just this with a unique situation where it wasn't
Speaker 1: like that the character and the actor became one and
Speaker 1: the same. And I support the decision as a human being,
Speaker 1: and I get the people that are on the other
Speaker 1: side of the aisle at that point. But again, these
Speaker 1: stories are going to be restarted, these characters are gonna
Speaker 1: be rebooted, so just give it time. It's going to happen.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make less what those what Chadwick did or
Speaker 1: anything like that. They'll always be there. It's like what
Speaker 1: I say to people, if you don't like reboots and
Speaker 1: restarts and you like those, guess what still there for
Speaker 1: you to grab either on the shelf and the thing
Speaker 1: you can redback And that's fine, but closing it out
Speaker 1: fifth of jack saying, I wouldn't do a recast, but
Speaker 1: I do like the idea of a son Either way, though,
Speaker 1: I would go down with an open mind and give
Speaker 1: it a shot. The irrational If Jackson like it.
Speaker 3: If Secret Wars ends with them pulling someone in from
Speaker 3: a different universe to be the new Chill and it's
Speaker 3: a new actor, then I am okay with that. That's
Speaker 3: what I didn't want, was I know. Right after he died,
Speaker 3: people are like, well, just recast him I was like,
Speaker 3: that was to me, the absolute wrong time to do it.
Speaker 3: And I definitely understand what they're saying. How many black
Speaker 3: actors did not want to step into that role person
Speaker 3: like I would unless I knew where they were headed
Speaker 3: going after Secret Wars. I wouldn't want to step in
Speaker 3: that role because the pressure that is going to be
Speaker 3: on you once you're announced as the new Black Panther
Speaker 3: unless you know the direction that they're going after Secret Wars,
Speaker 3: that is a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: Yep, the same thing. Like I do not envy anyone
Speaker 1: who steps in after Hugh Jackman. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: all right, we will see you all next week. Again,
Speaker 1: long episode for you all, but we enjoyed it again.
Speaker 1: Thank you mister s Now, thank you everyone, and we
Speaker 1: will see you all next week. Bye bye see