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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the stream, guys. Today I have a very

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<v Speaker 1>special guest. Do you guys know him as the Navy's

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<v Speaker 1>developer of the UFL patents. Salvator Pias is back with

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<v Speaker 1>me today on hard Trus. Let's get started right away. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>please with me, salvat Or Pias, Sir, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>live stream.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing, hey, brother, how are you doing

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<v Speaker 2>for ORBS? A pleasure to be here. Hello to all

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<v Speaker 2>your followers, your viewers, your subscribers. Hi, guys and girls.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let me start off the bed. Quick disclaimer.

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<v Speaker 2>None of these statements I make here, opinions and so forth,

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<v Speaker 2>are in any way associated with the United States Navy

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<v Speaker 2>or the United States Space Force. I come here on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast as a private citizen. All the statements I make,

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<v Speaker 2>all the opinions I make are my own. United States

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<v Speaker 2>Government has absolutely nothing to do with this whatsoever. Now

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<v Speaker 2>give me two minutes because I really got to get

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<v Speaker 2>this off my chest and let me finish the thought

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<v Speaker 2>before the stream is over. So whatever questions you got

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<v Speaker 2>to ask, ask, but let me start with this. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a feeling I know how these things move, how

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<v Speaker 2>these orbs. It's very Oh my God, it's so freaking simple.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't sleep last night, so I was thinking, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>it all has to do with a very a rather

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<v Speaker 2>simple relationship between time and frequency could be frequency of

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<v Speaker 2>spin or frequency of vibration. If you do a quick

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<v Speaker 2>dimensional analysis, you'll see that time swiggle line or is

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<v Speaker 2>on the order of one divided by frequency just from

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<v Speaker 2>a unit's point of view, But that also applies to

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<v Speaker 2>the physics. If you apply the chain rule to that,

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<v Speaker 2>T say equals a constant that has no dimensions, divided

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<v Speaker 2>by saying frequency of spin. I prefer frequency of vibration

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<v Speaker 2>because you can vibrate much higher. As you and I

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<v Speaker 2>shall discuss eventually. We're not gonna give numbers, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so again, T equals a constant dimensional is constant divided

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<v Speaker 2>by a frequency, say, of vibration. If you apply the

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<v Speaker 2>chain rule chain rule. We're talking about first year college

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<v Speaker 2>differential calculus, all right, chain rule. If you apply the

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<v Speaker 2>chain rule to this relationship, you're gonna get something that

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<v Speaker 2>basically says minus delta t T being time is on

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<v Speaker 2>the order of delta frequency say delta omega divided by

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<v Speaker 2>omega square. It's that freaking simple that minus delta T

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<v Speaker 2>talks you can say to a reverse termporal excursion, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to go that way, or if you can

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<v Speaker 2>consider the Minkowski space time metric. One of the solutions

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<v Speaker 2>to it when delta x equals delta y equal delta

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<v Speaker 2>zquals zero, one of the solutions to it is minus

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<v Speaker 2>delta S for displacement equal c the speed of light

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<v Speaker 2>delta T. Put in the delta T and notice how

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<v Speaker 2>the signs all of a sudden become positive. It talks

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<v Speaker 2>to a possible displacement. So in other words, what these

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<v Speaker 2>orbs are doing, they're bathing. They're bathing the aircraft in

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<v Speaker 2>a sea of frequencies non ionizing radiation. It's key, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll talk to it eventually. We have to possibly you,

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<v Speaker 2>me and Dave ROSSI have to write a paper on this. Eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll do it in OSLF. It's huge, It's so

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<v Speaker 2>freaking simple and beautiful. But the whole idea is it

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<v Speaker 2>basically give a method of propulsion whereby when you have

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<v Speaker 2>this bath of non ionizing radiation and developing the aircraft,

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<v Speaker 2>when you dial up the frequency just from the formula itself,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you go back into the recording, you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>the exact formula that I was talking about. From application

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<v Speaker 2>of the chain rule. You basically displace this thing, but

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<v Speaker 2>it needs to shwingle limit. It needs for the quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote conditioning of the vacuum, so it allows the space

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<v Speaker 2>the Minkowski space time metro to occur in a how

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<v Speaker 2>should I say modified vacuum, Let's put it that way,

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<v Speaker 2>A conditioned vacuum. We'll talk more about this, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is how they display.

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<v Speaker 1>More questions on that, and I want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>it and a few but what I want to really

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<v Speaker 1>start with though, with you, is on your background, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much confusion I think over it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, let me ask you this, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing public appearances at all? What is your motivation?

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<v Speaker 1>And did you get permission from the Navy to do

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<v Speaker 1>your appearances.

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<v Speaker 2>Only as a private citizen. That's why I give the

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<v Speaker 2>disclaimer at the beginning of all this. And then again

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<v Speaker 2>I always speak to Ecube brother. I always say, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not here to educate or in any way enlighten the

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<v Speaker 2>enemy e Cube. So I do not give numbers, I

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<v Speaker 2>do not give ranges. I give concepts ideas. Now, how

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<v Speaker 2>to enable these ideas. You actually need numbers, you need

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<v Speaker 2>specified condition environments. Period, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you doing it so that people will be privy

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<v Speaker 1>to this information knowing, you know, not thinking that it's

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<v Speaker 1>currently real, because a lot of people think that your

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<v Speaker 1>your patents and your technology and the science that you

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<v Speaker 1>push is pseudoscience. They love to say that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the question I'm getting is are you what?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you getting out of this?

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<v Speaker 2>I am a part of this. I this is my way.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody will accept my papers. Nobody. Uh. My way of

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<v Speaker 2>of how should I say, of of of convincing the

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<v Speaker 2>world that in any way my ideas were correct, was

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<v Speaker 2>to publish patents and not even then these days are

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<v Speaker 2>allowed anymore. Nowadays it's getting harder and harder to get

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<v Speaker 2>certain ideas past the primary examiners. These are the guys

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<v Speaker 2>that can actually have the office of action to allow

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<v Speaker 2>the pattern. So what I get out of this is

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<v Speaker 2>my ideas being heard number one and number two. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it's just for example, the Russians give us recently what

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<v Speaker 2>orationik It's called I think Hazel not treat the exact

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<v Speaker 2>translation from the Russian. And it's interesting because they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about subclass ammunitions like this hypers on thing actually clusters

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<v Speaker 2>away or anyway, So the hazel lout tree speaks to clusters.

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<v Speaker 2>I think up to five hazel nuts on one branch.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, it's it's an interesting idea, but it just

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<v Speaker 2>gives them an idea that we too have concepts that

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<v Speaker 2>they have not heard of. So in a way, it's

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<v Speaker 2>how should I say, be careful how you handle us,

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<v Speaker 2>because if a private citizen can get on this, and

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<v Speaker 2>how should I say, speak to a dance physics even

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<v Speaker 2>though they it's called pseudo science. Look, the truth of

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<v Speaker 2>the matter is in time. I don't know about space.

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<v Speaker 2>But in time, all these ideas will be cleared, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be validated, they will be verified. Just like your idea

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<v Speaker 2>that m three seventy what happened with it is correct,

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<v Speaker 2>it's starting to take fruition. So will my ideas when

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<v Speaker 2>they be accepted, and they will at that point in time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all. But yeah, of course, so.

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<v Speaker 1>You put the so you put it out there so

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<v Speaker 1>that in the future people will go this guy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put marked his stamp on the world in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen and said this stuff's real and may

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<v Speaker 1>take you a while to accept it, but it's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and the proof is there is that knacket representation of

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<v Speaker 1>your motivations.

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<v Speaker 2>You could say that, but also I represent all the

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<v Speaker 2>people that were not heard, all the people who's the

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote pseudo science never stand.

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<v Speaker 3>On the.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh completely, they're there. For example, people like Harold putovsh

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<v Speaker 2>have had a noble price, but because the man was

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<v Speaker 2>associated with the remote viewing stargate and so forth, all

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<v Speaker 2>these interesting names. But anyway, because let me, I got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of questions to ask you community, Yeah ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we're gonna get to all these things. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just keep it h you know, somewhat brief and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll we'll, you know, we a lot of lesson

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss here. So one more thing though too, in

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<v Speaker 1>your background is so what is your background after in

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<v Speaker 1>the early two thousands. There's a gap between when you

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<v Speaker 1>were at Case Western, you were working with NASA Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>as a research graduate student, I believe, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden no one heard about you until your

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<v Speaker 1>patents come out. Were you working with the Navy and

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<v Speaker 1>other military organizations that entire time?

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<v Speaker 2>I wish there was a hiring freeze in NASA, and

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<v Speaker 2>even though I had a graduate research fellowship and I

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<v Speaker 2>would have been given a permanent government position once I

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<v Speaker 2>had graduated from Case Western Reserve University with my PhD,

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<v Speaker 2>because of that high and freeze, they were not able

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<v Speaker 2>to take me on. So I had to find the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was part of a consulting engineering company. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was called Cisco and Hennessy at one point, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a period that I was actually laid off.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an interesting past, but when I was laid off,

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<v Speaker 2>I started reading a lot on my own and developed

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<v Speaker 2>some of these physics concepts even back then.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, that's good to know. So were you at

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<v Speaker 1>the NASA Breakthrough Physics Propulsion Program workshop? Did you attend

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<v Speaker 1>it at all? It's been rumored that you were in

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<v Speaker 1>attendance because of the crossover and when you were working

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<v Speaker 1>with NASA.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not remember that, sir. I do not remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite possible that maybe I was in one or

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<v Speaker 2>two conferences, but no, I did not. My only paper

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<v Speaker 2>at that time, I think, published in ninety five, was

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<v Speaker 2>in the essay I think it was Technical Papers. It

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<v Speaker 2>was something called the induced trust effect a method of propulsion,

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<v Speaker 2>rather interesting propulsion method. You can read that paper. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's still as part of the se SAE series

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<v Speaker 2>of papers. He can google it and find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the most recent UFO hearings of this

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<v Speaker 1>immaculate constellation and all this stuff that was going on?

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<v Speaker 1>And you're familiar with that.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean immaculate constipation?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll tell you yes, because have you seen this

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<v Speaker 1>document that was released along with it that references you

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<v Speaker 1>several times in it? And it looks to be a

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<v Speaker 1>historical reference of all of people related to the UFO community.

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<v Speaker 1>How pudas mentioned ninety three times in it here, it

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<v Speaker 1>mentions your work and your PhD dissertation at Case Western,

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<v Speaker 1>and it connects you to NASA Glen again in a

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<v Speaker 1>weird way where it says that you were working at

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<v Speaker 1>NASA Glenn and Nick Cook, the author of Hunt for

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<v Speaker 1>Zero Point Energy, he was told that NASA Glenn was

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<v Speaker 1>working on breakthrough physics which led to the creation of

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<v Speaker 1>a device capable of high speed interstellar travel. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>have to ask, like, are you connected to whatever is

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<v Speaker 1>being talked about here? Because your patents are literally a

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<v Speaker 1>interstellar faster than light device. So what is your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on this?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing travels faster than the speed of light special relativity.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going back to Einstein. Einstein is correct, Einstein shall

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<v Speaker 2>always be proven correct. That's just the prophecy you've heard

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<v Speaker 2>it first year anyway. Yeah, I don't think Einstein needs

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<v Speaker 2>me as a profit to let the world know that

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<v Speaker 2>his incredible work is will will always be valid given

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<v Speaker 2>a certain medium. Again, as you will know, squal see

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<v Speaker 2>zero divided by n square, where n is the index

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<v Speaker 2>of refraction. So we are talking about within a giving medium.

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<v Speaker 2>This speed of light is a constant. It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the fundamental assertions of special relativity on which that fundamental stands.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, this whole thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>on metric to show how the displacement of these orbs,

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<v Speaker 1>So is that a yes you worked on it, or

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? No, no, absolutely not. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I was in a whole different branch. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's gonna be relevant to it. And later discussion here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got more questions. I'm gonna shoot at you

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not, sorry, Other than my own applications, my own

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<v Speaker 2>my work in any way, I will always hold doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Eric W. Davis in very high esteem because one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite books of all time is Frontiers of Propulsion Science,

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<v Speaker 2>that he co edited with markmel.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think that he doesn't like you? Eric W. Davis?

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<v Speaker 1>For the people in the chat who are not familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably the number one world expert on wormholes and

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<v Speaker 1>other advanced space propulsion concepts. Definitely has connections to black projects.

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<v Speaker 1>John Ramuir's of the CIA alluded to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he had seen him on his name on bigot lists.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is it Do you think he's a gatekeeper

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<v Speaker 1>of this technology? What do you think? Why is it

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<v Speaker 1>you think he doesn't like you.

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<v Speaker 2>When I try to publish, I think it was a

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<v Speaker 2>Journal of British Interplanetary Society. When I try to try

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<v Speaker 2>to publish there, he really ripped into my work big

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<v Speaker 2>time with the several emails to some really good people

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<v Speaker 2>point in time it was him, It was put off.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Paul Murad that were very high up in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, with Eric W. Davis, who's always been there.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite possible he is one of the gatekeepers. He is.

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<v Speaker 2>If you read that book Frontiers on Propulsion Science, that

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<v Speaker 2>the section that he himself wrote in which he argues

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<v Speaker 2>vacuum melting again, modification of the medium through which is

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<v Speaker 2>for you to travel, for reduction of inertial forces. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, the man is an absolute genius on the

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<v Speaker 2>level of put off, I would argue. So problem is,

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<v Speaker 2>of course he doesn't like my work. Now he says

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't like my work. Maybe it's for a different reason,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe deep down he does. That's it possible. Maybe one

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<v Speaker 2>day him and I will have a beer and laugh

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<v Speaker 2>over this. I hope, hope, I hope so because I

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I hold him in very high esteem.

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<v Speaker 1>Good segue real quick, because we'll talk more about those

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<v Speaker 1>guys in a minute. But so, do you think UFOs

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<v Speaker 1>are real? There's something out there called the UFOs unidentified

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<v Speaker 1>flying objects that are floating around in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>You need you mean, I acknowledge effing objects, absolutely, absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>they What do you think this whole idea that their

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<v Speaker 2>phenomena bothers me. I'll tell you the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>We got this thing floating around here right, This is

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<v Speaker 1>my UFO floater. I can be whatever you want. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me a ball, like, give me a flying saucer or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. Salvat or pie is. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>am I saying your last name correctly? Is that pies have?

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying it incorrectly as well? What is sal

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<v Speaker 1>What is the energy source of this UFO? What? What?

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<v Speaker 1>In your opinion, what's the energy source? Where's the energy

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<v Speaker 1>source coming from for this thing it's floating around freely

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<v Speaker 1>in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Well quite possibly it's it's on board that craft, but

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<v Speaker 2>exactly how it operates, whether it can manipulate the superforce,

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<v Speaker 2>in which case it's their, or it can generate certain

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<v Speaker 2>condition electromagnetic fields which generate gravitation waves of high frequency,

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<v Speaker 2>in which case it's towers that that power source would differ.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, So I don't understand how any power source

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<v Speaker 1>could be on board because again Einstein equals mc squared

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of energy levels that would be required just

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<v Speaker 1>to levitate for a prolonged period of time. The more

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<v Speaker 1>mass you put in your craft, it's a self defeating prophecy.

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<v Speaker 1>The more energy it now requires for that thing to levitate.

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<v Speaker 1>So how could it require how could it be something

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<v Speaker 1>that's on board? To me, the only logical explanation would

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<v Speaker 1>be there must require an external energy source that's not

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<v Speaker 1>on board. How would you respond to that?

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<v Speaker 2>I would beg to differ. Now, you and I have

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<v Speaker 2>never had an argument, but in this I must stand

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<v Speaker 2>my ground. I believe that the energy source of this

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<v Speaker 2>of whatever is on board. And why because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>need to be something extremely big. Again, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things that you can achieve via resonance and non

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<v Speaker 2>ionizing radiation, especially when you oscillate plasmas in a certain mode,

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<v Speaker 2>certain fashion. I'll just leave it there. No numbers, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, okay, So let's just let's you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine. I'm happy to have disagreements, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, professional disagreements and understanding. I'm still learning about

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<v Speaker 1>this a lot. So anything where I off base, please

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<v Speaker 1>correct me. Now go back to you.

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<v Speaker 2>But you must eventually elucidate your idea that that the

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<v Speaker 2>that the power source could be external to the craft,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's interesting, it's very interesting. After all, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to understand that if you consider something called god what

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<v Speaker 2>did he call it? Was it radiative energy? What did

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<v Speaker 2>Nicola Tesla.

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<v Speaker 1>Called his radio energy?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, radiant energy?

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<v Speaker 3>That's it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, And he had the ability to to

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<v Speaker 2>to to in a way. Uh. He he had a

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<v Speaker 2>very strange craft. I remember seeing it in one of

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<v Speaker 2>his patents, but for some reason, Uh, it's it's very

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<v Speaker 2>you don't find that patent. Uh, it's it looks very strange.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks almost like an asymmetric capacitor speaking of the

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<v Speaker 2>the brown So anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you believe in energy? Tesla?

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<v Speaker 2>Did by that you mean zero point energy?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, however you think of it, I think of it

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<v Speaker 1>as zero point energy. What do you think do you

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<v Speaker 1>think we can extract zero point energy?

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<v Speaker 2>Some people seem to think so. So who am I

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<v Speaker 2>to differ? Why why should I say no to that?

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<v Speaker 2>I like to speak to things that I have knowledge of,

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<v Speaker 2>and to me, I think the study of the super

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<v Speaker 2>force is very important as to exactly how, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>et guide their craft, because it seems to be far

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<v Speaker 2>more than just something mechanical in nature or rather electromatic,

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<v Speaker 2>however you want to see it. That it seems has

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<v Speaker 2>to do with their consciousness as well, which is very

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<v Speaker 1>But go ahead, go back to your patents real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's okay. So let's straight upat are your patents operable?

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<v Speaker 2>Every one of them has been enabled. That's why they.

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<v Speaker 1>Enabled, different than operable. Though enabled there's two different terms there,

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<v Speaker 1>but operable would imply that one has been produced and exists.

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<v Speaker 2>All these theoretical concepts. All these are theoretical concepts as

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<v Speaker 2>far as I know. The only thing that's been attempted

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<v Speaker 2>was the high energy electromagnetic field generator, and we were

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<v Speaker 2>not able to obtain charges electrical charges photose ultracapacities higher

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<v Speaker 2>than say ten to the minus eight coolambs. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>need at least one coolamb of charge to generate certain effects.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's an eight orders of magnitude different than what

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<v Speaker 1>you were trying to achieve. So how do you reconcile

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<v Speaker 1>those results with your belief and opinion that your science

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be proven to be real in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, there's a discrepancy. You know, you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at this result and the mainstream people are looking at

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<v Speaker 1>and going, well, he had his high energy electromagnetic field

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<v Speaker 1>generated result and the result is eight orders of magnitude

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<v Speaker 1>too low. So how is it that you're so confident

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<v Speaker 1>that it can produce these energy levels?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, from a solid, an electrified solid point of view,

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<v Speaker 2>we should have gone with pelotrons vand graph generators, they

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<v Speaker 2>can actually generate charges much higher than that. Then the

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<v Speaker 2>whole idea was to prevent the subject from marking and

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<v Speaker 2>losing the charge, So that would have to be done

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<v Speaker 2>in specialized environments. I will not say exactly what can

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<v Speaker 2>be done, but again Van the graph generators peleotrons which

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<v Speaker 2>are dynamic in nature, but you can think of them

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<v Speaker 2>as dynamic undergraph generators. They have the ability of generating

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<v Speaker 2>very high electrical charges. The whole idea is how do

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<v Speaker 2>you keep the electrified solid from arcing from giving away

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<v Speaker 2>that charge? And that's not simple now, but I believe

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<v Speaker 2>the Shwinger limit can be broken, but with plasma, not

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<v Speaker 2>with electrified solids. It's possible that also there may be

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<v Speaker 2>a way to engineer an electrified solid to bring about

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<v Speaker 2>Schwinger limit breaking, but it would be much harder from

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<v Speaker 2>an engineering aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So this is what I was getting at is

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw one of your other interviews and you

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<v Speaker 1>did mention that, well, these solids can't obtain the energy

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<v Speaker 1>levels are required, but plasma might be able to. So

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm hearing here is that you're saying that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the experiment that we did didn't use the optimal medium

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<v Speaker 1>in which to produce these energy levels, but that the plasmas,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, therefore theoretically could if we were using that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to know. Is that an accurate representation

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<v Speaker 1>of what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>There in a way. But even the experiment itself, even

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<v Speaker 2>though it had such a small charge on it, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to remember there were two anomalies if you fired

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<v Speaker 2>that experimental the experimental results, which the Senate Arm Service

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<v Speaker 2>Committee is the technical staffers that actually investigated the work

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<v Speaker 2>that came and interrogated doctor Sihi over it, among also

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<v Speaker 2>the Invention Evaluation Board at the time. They concluded that

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<v Speaker 2>these two anomalies had to be looked into because even

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<v Speaker 2>with small charges, you could not dismiss them. It'd be

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<v Speaker 2>different if it was a one, you know, only one anomaly,

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<v Speaker 2>but there were two, and they were specific to a

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<v Speaker 2>particular biological sensation which was reproducible. Look carefully into that

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<v Speaker 2>because if ten to the minus eight coulombs can generate

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<v Speaker 2>that effect, can you imagine what a one coolamb of

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<v Speaker 2>charge kutu? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So what if these patents are so disruptive

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been hearing this all or I've been hearing

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<v Speaker 1>national security talker Carlson was just talking to Clayton Morris

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<v Speaker 1>talking about he believes the truth of UFO disclosure is

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<v Speaker 1>extremely disruptive. Then why would the Navy let these patents

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<v Speaker 1>become publicly available? And I think I know the answer,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to hear your thought on it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know these patents, Your patents represent a technology shift that

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<v Speaker 1>could be free energy certainly means propulsion mechanisms that can

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<v Speaker 1>make us an interstellar Why are we telling everybody about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Given the nineteen fifty one Security Act. I asked myself

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. As a matter of fact, the pattern

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<v Speaker 2>attorney for the organization I was working for at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>in a way question why was this let out into

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<v Speaker 2>the open? To this day, I'm not sure it could

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<v Speaker 2>quite be that they could not find anything wrong with

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<v Speaker 2>the physics, and yet to the Invention Evaluation Board this

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<v Speaker 2>sounded very much like science fiction. The only reason that

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<v Speaker 2>they put them out again is that they couldn't find

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<v Speaker 2>anything wrong with the physics. There was nothing. And as

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact, you're going to remember that five

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<v Speaker 2>times I went in front of the Invention event is board,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can maybe the passion in my voice, maybe

435
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<v Speaker 2>the fact that I went to the drive board and

436
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<v Speaker 2>actually showed them the equations, showed them the exact derivation

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<v Speaker 2>for Maxo's equation, exactly what I was talking about. Not once,

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<v Speaker 2>not twice, not three times, five times I did this,

439
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<v Speaker 2>and maybe I was able to convince them I actually

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<v Speaker 2>knew what I was talking about, and I do know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So Russia and China have this technology already. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that might be a reason why they let it

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<v Speaker 1>come out.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea whatsoever. But you have to understand

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<v Speaker 2>that I truly believe that I'm not an original in this.

447
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<v Speaker 2>I'm one hundred percent sure that someone would have noticed

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<v Speaker 2>this in the time of all of the heavy side

449
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<v Speaker 2>and the how should I say, the heavy side version

450
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<v Speaker 2>of Maxo's equations coupled well, simple Harmonica lator gives the

451
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<v Speaker 2>price effect, of course, not taking into consideration the core plasma,

452
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<v Speaker 2>the an equilibrium effects and so forth. That's a whole

453
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<v Speaker 2>different matter, the whole idea of breaking the Shwingle limit.

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<v Speaker 2>But someone would have realized that such electromagnetic energy flexes

455
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<v Speaker 2>of such high intensity are feasible at that time, and

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<v Speaker 2>quite possibly because there were such great engineers. I mean,

457
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<v Speaker 2>these were times that gave rise to people like Nikola Tesla.

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<v Speaker 2>They were most likely they they questioned, these were great

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<v Speaker 2>engineers man, and I truly believe that at that point

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<v Speaker 2>in time, it's as if it's as if there was

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<v Speaker 2>a timeline shift. It's as if quantum mechanics took over

462
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<v Speaker 2>the minds of everyone and instead of following say Max

463
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<v Speaker 2>Swellin and Einsteinian physics on one path, freebody just went

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<v Speaker 2>for the quantum mechanics way.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you saying that we can amplify energy? Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe that that's possible, that we can just

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<v Speaker 1>take energy in a circuit and amplify it using say

468
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<v Speaker 1>like parametric.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Oscillations resonance effects. Absolutely, look carefully at one particular paper

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<v Speaker 2>I trip l E Plasma. It's it's published in I

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<v Speaker 2>trip l E Transactions on Plasma Science. The title of

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<v Speaker 2>the paper is the Plasma Compression Fusion Device. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>one paper that was truly accepted by one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most prestigious journals in existence on plasma physics. This is

475
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<v Speaker 2>I Triple E TPS that accepted this and it's being

476
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<v Speaker 2>cited by very high level Chinese research teams. One of

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<v Speaker 2>them actually I Tropolate Journal of Cybernetics. You have to

478
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<v Speaker 2>ask yourself why it's very interesting. But I look very

479
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<v Speaker 2>careful in that paper equations five and six. There's one

480
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<v Speaker 2>particular equation that speaks to a resonance effect that based

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<v Speaker 2>on certain frequencies, based on certain conditions, you can have

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<v Speaker 2>energy great energy amplifications started from a modest power level.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's leave it at that. It's interesting that they have

484
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<v Speaker 2>found that paper and they're really really it's interesting that

485
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<v Speaker 2>the citing it's it's as if they're holding it up

486
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<v Speaker 2>and saying, ah, look at this interesting. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean amplification of energy to me is massive,

488
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<v Speaker 1>and that's something that I took away from our first

489
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<v Speaker 1>interview a year ago, which could mean that you can

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<v Speaker 1>achieve energy levels any energy level that you need for anything,

491
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<v Speaker 1>which to me is extremely dangerous. And if that's true,

492
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<v Speaker 1>that could explain why this science, this technology is kept

493
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<v Speaker 1>secret for the interest of national defense. Whether or not

494
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<v Speaker 1>we can pull infinite energy from the environment is a

495
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:20.519
<v Speaker 1>different question, and I think either of these being true.

496
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<v Speaker 1>Either pulling infinite energy from the environment or amplifying energy

497
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<v Speaker 1>that we already have are both just extremely dangerous and

498
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<v Speaker 1>the implications are huge. But if that's also true, it

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<v Speaker 1>can't be kept hidden forever. And the reason why I

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<v Speaker 1>point this out is because you've mentioned and you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>it again just now that how could other scientists not

502
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<v Speaker 1>have seen this in the Maxwell's equations. How could they

503
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<v Speaker 1>not have seen this in the heavy sides versions of

504
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>the equations that are out there. It's just simple math.

505
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>You look at the energy level, it's equal to something squared.

506
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's an exponential growth indicator. Now what I

507
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<v Speaker 1>want to do in that go ahead and commentation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have very student observation, bro. I've noticed certain

509
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<v Speaker 2>things about you. I got to say it to your

510
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<v Speaker 2>audience because I do respect you greatly. I think within

511
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<v Speaker 2>the last year you've really come up. You've it is

512
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<v Speaker 2>amazing you are not of a physics pedigree, because I

513
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<v Speaker 2>believe that you can actually hold your own with almost

514
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<v Speaker 2>anyone in the field if they're willing to give you

515
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>a chance to speak. See that's the big if. However,

516
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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, you have the three piece brother, all right.

517
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<v Speaker 2>You have patience, you have persistence, and you have perspicacity

518
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<v Speaker 2>which leads to the big P. I believe that one

519
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<v Speaker 2>day you shall prevail in your quest to prove image

520
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<v Speaker 2>three seventy is a very real thing.

521
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<v Speaker 1>I hope. So yeah, And I think a lot about

522
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<v Speaker 1>our last conversation where you said one of the things

523
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<v Speaker 1>you said is, Man, you said something. I think about

524
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<v Speaker 1>what Ashton would have to go through to prove that

525
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<v Speaker 1>this stuff is real. And I think about that almost

526
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<v Speaker 1>every day because man, it had to go through a

527
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<v Speaker 1>lot of craft in order to try to get to

528
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<v Speaker 1>get this information out there, which is why I appreciate

529
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<v Speaker 1>you being here. And actually I want to ask you

530
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<v Speaker 1>a few questions about the MH three seven zero videos

531
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<v Speaker 1>here and just get right to it. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my first question is when did you first hear about

533
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<v Speaker 1>me or see those videos? Was it after I reached

534
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 1>out to you, or had somebody reached out to you

535
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>before that that made you aware of my stuff?

536
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Exactly when you reached out to me, I started looking

537
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<v Speaker 2>into you because I had no idea what to expect.

538
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<v Speaker 2>You told me that I was going to be your

539
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<v Speaker 2>first Heart Truth podcast, and that's a really cool name.

540
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<v Speaker 2>I got to say, Heart Truth because this is this

541
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>is the hardest truth imaginable. So you you you hit

542
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 2>you hit that nail right on the head.

543
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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

544
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<v Speaker 2>That's that's a great podcas name.

545
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<v Speaker 1>So you saw it for the first time right after

546
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<v Speaker 1>I got in touch with you. You saw it, And

547
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<v Speaker 1>now I want to know what your impressions were when

548
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<v Speaker 1>you watched And I'm gonna pull the video up here

549
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<v Speaker 1>where we can kind of look at it together. And

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<v Speaker 1>what were your impressions when you saw specifically this video

551
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<v Speaker 1>here for the first time.

552
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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, when I saw those orbs, I saw this thing,

553
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<v Speaker 2>this one orb. Just start exactly what it's doing now,

554
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.559
<v Speaker 2>just start to go around this thing. And all of

555
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<v Speaker 2>a sudden it started to join another one and then

556
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<v Speaker 2>another one, and I said, oh my god, they're forming

557
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<v Speaker 2>a bubble of non ionizing radiation around this thing. There's

558
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<v Speaker 2>no way, there's no way what's about to happen? I anticipated,

559
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<v Speaker 2>do you understand I knew before that black hole happened,

560
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<v Speaker 2>let's call it a black was.

561
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<v Speaker 1>Going to happen.

562
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Beforehand, I knew that would happen. I knew that would happen.

563
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<v Speaker 2>That's why when I said, I said, this is it.

564
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<v Speaker 2>This is the price effect. Of course, it's you know, Hubris,

565
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<v Speaker 2>that's the only thing I got going for me. Brother,

566
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<v Speaker 2>That's not one thing I'm losing anytime soon.

567
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<v Speaker 1>So have you ever seen videos like this, military videos

568
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<v Speaker 1>like this before, anything even similar remotely similar to this? Ugh?

569
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<v Speaker 2>Never ever, And even if I have, because you point,

570
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<v Speaker 2>I would not be able to discuss because that would

571
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<v Speaker 2>give away methods.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's fine. I had to ask anyway, now,

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<v Speaker 1>when you watched this part at the end with the

574
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<v Speaker 1>slow mod, what are you thinking as an engineer here? Like,

575
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<v Speaker 1>what do you what is this? What does it make

576
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<v Speaker 1>you think of when you're watching this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? My goodness, I was absolutely I could not believe

578
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<v Speaker 2>that this was happening.

579
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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think there is like that?

580
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<v Speaker 2>At the end, they're actually focusing as much nonine on

581
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<v Speaker 2>its radiation around this craft in order to act to

582
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 2>condition the local vacuum around the craft the aircraft in

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<v Speaker 2>order to form this wormhole opening for one of the

584
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<v Speaker 2>becker what's a warmhole. It's really a black hole connector

585
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<v Speaker 2>to Whitehall. Whatever has an entrance will most likely have

586
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:35.960
<v Speaker 2>an exit. I do not believe in space time singularities.

587
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<v Speaker 2>I'm afraid Penrose was one hundred percent wrong from this

588
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:43.159
<v Speaker 2>point of view, it never goes to zero. There's a

589
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:46.559
<v Speaker 2>quantum bounce as car is correct, there's an oshter car

590
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:51.039
<v Speaker 2>bounce at the plank scale. There's no such thing as

591
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:55.039
<v Speaker 2>a space time singularity. And this whole idea of spaget

592
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<v Speaker 2>I can't even pronounce it. It's so idiotic. Every time

593
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<v Speaker 2>I hear, oh, we're going to be pulled into the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and look, it's just a way to travel.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that there is a Casimir effect happening

596
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<v Speaker 1>here being offsetting a Coolan repulsion effect when they converge together,

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<v Speaker 1>Because when I look at see that conversion, I immediately

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<v Speaker 1>think of Coulan force distance between the two charged objects

599
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<v Speaker 1>being reduced. You know, it's going to increase your force exponentially.

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<v Speaker 2>You think that's force is really the force of repulsion

601
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<v Speaker 2>between particles of the same charge. That's the way I

602
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<v Speaker 2>view the Coulan force. Again. The whole idea of why

603
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<v Speaker 2>I thought that they were getting close and started to

604
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<v Speaker 2>oscillate around this thing is to basically create that resonance

605
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<v Speaker 2>effect that would build a field to the levels it

606
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<v Speaker 2>would need to break locally the Shwingle limit. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that they would start pulsating inward. You see

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<v Speaker 2>how they start oscillating around this thing, and at one point,

609
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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can actually see them change course, change direction.

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<v Speaker 2>That's also very interesting because now.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned that with the vectory in earlier at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning as well as that you thought that it must

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<v Speaker 1>be related to time.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, and it's so freaking simple because think from

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<v Speaker 2>a dimensional scaling point of view. Just from a simple

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<v Speaker 2>dimensional analysis, time goes as one divided by frequency. Could

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<v Speaker 2>be spin or vibration. It doesn't matter. The mathematics are

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<v Speaker 2>similar for both spin and vibrations. Anyone that wants to

619
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<v Speaker 2>study that, go to a first year first year college

620
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<v Speaker 2>book and you'll see what the why I say, the

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<v Speaker 2>mathematics of spin and vibration are very similar. Now the

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<v Speaker 2>whole once you have times on the order one divided

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<v Speaker 2>by frequency if you use the chain rule, so we

624
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<v Speaker 2>talk about first year for college, first year differential calculus,

625
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<v Speaker 2>the chain rule, okay, in this case would be A

626
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<v Speaker 2>divided by B, where a b are functions of say

627
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<v Speaker 2>the same variable X. Just look up the formula and

628
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<v Speaker 2>you will see that what you get once you applying

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<v Speaker 2>the chain rule to T is on the order one

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<v Speaker 2>divided by frequency, you get t sorry minus delta t,

631
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<v Speaker 2>so minus the change in time is on the order

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<v Speaker 2>of the change in omega. In other words, the change

633
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<v Speaker 2>in frequency divided by the frequency square. That comes right

634
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<v Speaker 2>out of the chain rule. And you have to ask

635
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<v Speaker 2>yourself at that time, just think think Minkowski spacetime metric.

636
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<v Speaker 2>When you have delta x equal delta y called delta

637
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.400
<v Speaker 2>z equals zero. So say you center this thing, you

638
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<v Speaker 2>get as a solution of the space time metric of

639
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Minkowski space dimetric minus ds equals see the speed of

640
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<v Speaker 2>light times dt. Well that minus d T. Put in

641
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:06.239
<v Speaker 2>this formula and you'll see how displacement can come from

642
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:12.280
<v Speaker 2>basically bathing this craft in a say frequency and nan

643
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 2>ionizing radiation. It's important and actually it's very interesting because

644
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:20.519
<v Speaker 2>the price effect speaks to this. But anyway, uh, why

645
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<v Speaker 2>not non ionizing because it would have been really easily

646
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<v Speaker 2>uh detected on the infrared imagery if it was ionizing.

647
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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, that's a good point.

648
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<v Speaker 2>We're so we talked about something small and then terror

649
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.519
<v Speaker 2>hurts level very interesting.

650
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, we're gonna talk more about that in just

651
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 1>a second. There's a couple more questions on the videos.

652
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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that video is a test if you

653
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<v Speaker 1>were to look at this as somebody who's been works

654
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>for the military, do you think, like you know, if

655
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.079
<v Speaker 1>you're if what you're looking at here is real and

656
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>this is you know, breaking the swinger limit as you're

657
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:06.119
<v Speaker 1>claiming here, do you think that this technology has been

658
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:09.440
<v Speaker 1>used before? Or do you think any anything that you

659
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 1>watch this video leans you one way or another on that?

660
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 1>And really what I'm getting at here is, you know,

661
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:18.880
<v Speaker 1>how long do you think we've had this technology? If

662
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:20.679
<v Speaker 1>this video is real, this is ten years old?

663
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Ah, dude, If this is Look, the physics that I

664
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:33.960
<v Speaker 2>see here seems very plausible to me. Given the piece effect,

665
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 2>given the idea of the super force, given the idea

666
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:38.719
<v Speaker 2>of time is on your order of one divide by

667
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 2>frequency that we just spoke off, coupled with the Minkowski metric,

668
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 2>all this makes sense. Number one. Instinctually call it intuitive

669
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:58.639
<v Speaker 2>science and technology. Yeah, I see this as being extremely

670
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:03.719
<v Speaker 2>plausible Number one. Number two, if this was a forgery

671
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:07.719
<v Speaker 2>and so forth, whoever did this would have had to

672
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:13.159
<v Speaker 2>be an expert in physics. Not only that, a mind

673
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:19.239
<v Speaker 2>of such great imagination would have.

674
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Eric Davis made the videos real quickly. Why is

675
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.159
<v Speaker 1>this black? You can actually see this open up and

676
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:35.679
<v Speaker 1>you can see it close as well. Black is cold.

677
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>We know we can tell just looking at the engines.

678
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 1>Laterally on what does this mean when this is black?

679
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.239
<v Speaker 2>So do you remember when you and I spoke, uh,

680
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 2>when I say you can almost see a refraction way

681
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:51.800
<v Speaker 2>as if this was flu dynamics, as if what you're

682
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.519
<v Speaker 2>doing here throwing a pebble into a pool. Have you

683
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:58.199
<v Speaker 2>ever seen a pebble thrown into a pool? When it

684
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:03.920
<v Speaker 2>enters it forms this almost black like cavity because right

685
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>does not penetrate in the quote unquote black hole that

686
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:14.400
<v Speaker 2>you're creating. There is you can't see food because you

687
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 2>see what think of it from a fluid dynamics point

688
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 2>of you. This is a medium. The quantum vacuum is

689
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<v Speaker 2>a medium the so called vacuum energy state. Because a

690
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:27.599
<v Speaker 2>state represents a structure, and while we're looking here is

691
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 2>a structure that has a certain vacuum energy. What you

692
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:35.960
<v Speaker 2>have done is is conditioned that vacuum energy manipulated to

693
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:41.280
<v Speaker 2>the point that it no longer at that particular point

694
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:48.079
<v Speaker 2>that you see so black. That's the actual nothingness. What

695
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.199
<v Speaker 2>you see around it is what you have done to

696
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:57.000
<v Speaker 2>achieve their nothingness. The medium, the quantum vacuum is a thing,

697
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:00.719
<v Speaker 2>is a material entity. Look at fre and will check

698
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.360
<v Speaker 2>and how he argues against Lawrence Krause. When Lawrence Krause

699
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:10.920
<v Speaker 2>goes on his die tribe about everything, Hey from nothing.

700
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:18.760
<v Speaker 2>There's no such thing as nothing unless you yourself created Yeah,

701
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 2>negative energy, rantom vacuum.

702
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Would you call this negative energy?

703
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Then I choose not to use those terms because I'm

704
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:39.800
<v Speaker 2>again I that's going too far even not not even

705
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:49.559
<v Speaker 2>I there uh negative see to me, it's either not

706
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:54.679
<v Speaker 2>there or there's something to it. The idea of going

707
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:58.000
<v Speaker 2>negative to me is more like Cartesian coordinates. It's something

708
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:02.840
<v Speaker 2>that you yourself has. What is the word I'm looking for.

709
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:10.519
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a way that we're addressing things, all right, Yeah,

710
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:14.679
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's it's I don't know, I got something

711
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:15.840
<v Speaker 2>on my screen.

712
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think of it is just going below sea level.

713
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:19.519
<v Speaker 1>But I think I guess what you're getting at is

714
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that you're pointing energy, but the energy is still just

715
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:24.760
<v Speaker 1>normal energy. You know, you're just, in my opinion years

716
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:27.320
<v Speaker 1>going below what we thought of as absolute zero.

717
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right. The way I would think of then

718
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:35.280
<v Speaker 2>is negative energy density. That would speak to a negative pressure,

719
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.599
<v Speaker 2>and negative pressure I can deal with because it means

720
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.559
<v Speaker 2>a suction pressure. And that's exactly what you're doing. You're

721
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 2>creating a conditioned vacuum whereby the craft is sucked into

722
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:48.199
<v Speaker 2>that condition vacuum. That hole that you're creating is a

723
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:52.920
<v Speaker 2>zone of negative energy density. Then you and I are

724
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:54.280
<v Speaker 2>on the same level of speak.

725
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:56.639
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm talking about, Okay, So let me just

726
00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:58.800
<v Speaker 1>get right to it. So did you make those orbs

727
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:01.840
<v Speaker 1>south in those that video? I mean, I'm looking at

728
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:04.559
<v Speaker 1>your patents and you have to understand that if I

729
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:08.559
<v Speaker 1>add up your patents, you have a magnetically confined fusion patent,

730
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:13.159
<v Speaker 1>high frequency gravitational wave, high temperature induce or piso electric

731
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:16.480
<v Speaker 1>induce high temperature superconductivity, inertial mass reduction for a trans

732
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:21.119
<v Speaker 1>medium craft, and high energy electromagnetic field generator. You add

733
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.639
<v Speaker 1>that up and it looks a lot like an ORB

734
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 1>that could float around freely with no inertia and achieve

735
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>superluminal speeds like we're seeing in those videos. And it

736
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>might be the Navy recording that video as well, and

737
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.119
<v Speaker 1>it was in twenty fourteen, like right before you drop

738
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>your patents, So do you have some connection to that video?

739
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Complete serendipity and synchronicity. Sometimes these things just happen. This

740
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:53.320
<v Speaker 2>is why I believe in something more than our quote

741
00:47:53.400 --> 00:48:00.280
<v Speaker 2>unquote reduction is materialistic physical view of the world. I

742
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:03.800
<v Speaker 2>do not understand why it happened. I do not understand.

743
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I wanted myself who gave me these ideas? Who

744
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:11.239
<v Speaker 2>put them in my head? They've been there for some time.

745
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:15.079
<v Speaker 2>It all started with that paper Conditional Possibility of spacecraft

746
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.599
<v Speaker 2>propulsion at superluminal speeds. Took me four and a half

747
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 2>years to get that paper published. Finally it was published

748
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:26.159
<v Speaker 2>only when that other paper, High Energy Electromagnic Field Generation

749
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:32.559
<v Speaker 2>was published. And again all the time I've had to

750
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:37.599
<v Speaker 2>work for it, extremely hard to get these ideas through,

751
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:41.519
<v Speaker 2>and yet at that point in time it all worked out.

752
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:46.079
<v Speaker 2>You have to ask yourself why, who gave the okay?

753
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:52.840
<v Speaker 2>What made certain things occur for this to happen? Then?

754
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 2>And there, I tell you, man, I think what deal

755
00:48:56.360 --> 00:49:00.639
<v Speaker 2>What we're dealing with here is a war between the

756
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:04.119
<v Speaker 2>children of darkness and the children of the light, and

757
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>It's been going on for epochs for eons. Sometimes they

758
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:15.519
<v Speaker 2>have a small victory. Sometimes there's something happening. Everything is

759
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.960
<v Speaker 2>being driven towards a certain culmination point. I don't know

760
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:25.159
<v Speaker 2>what that point is. And I know this sounds weird, but.

761
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:28.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm that weird. But I mean, like, are you recognizing

762
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:32.039
<v Speaker 1>your patents in this video? Like the thing I couldn't

763
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:35.320
<v Speaker 1>get past last time was why you were praising me

764
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>so much when you're a Navy engineer. And I was

765
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:41.159
<v Speaker 1>just some guy being like, hey, these videos are crazy,

766
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:44.559
<v Speaker 1>like can this be real? And I literally thought that

767
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 1>you had gone to the future and met a future

768
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:49.199
<v Speaker 1>version of myself or maybe I went to the past

769
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:51.320
<v Speaker 1>or something. But then I thought about it some more

770
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and I went this guy must be recognizing his technology

771
00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:58.760
<v Speaker 1>in these videos, and there's not a lot of people

772
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:02.079
<v Speaker 1>on earth that would have that revelation. Like That's why

773
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 1>I asked you the question, or what you you recognize

774
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:08.880
<v Speaker 1>in this video? So are you recognizing your work or

775
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:11.840
<v Speaker 1>any component of your work in these in this video?

776
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<v Speaker 2>Let me just answer it this way, brother, If I

777
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<v Speaker 2>was the creator of those warps, I would be in

778
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:22.880
<v Speaker 2>a skiff within a skiff, within a skiff. You understand

779
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:25.760
<v Speaker 2>you would have never heard of my name, you would

780
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.199
<v Speaker 2>have never heard of my existence. I would be one

781
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.480
<v Speaker 2>of those people you have never heard of. There was

782
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:38.079
<v Speaker 2>incredibly genial that all the powerful beings in this world

783
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:40.800
<v Speaker 2>would come to me as an at that I don't know,

784
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:44.880
<v Speaker 2>as an article you know of science and technology. Kind

785
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:48.519
<v Speaker 2>of think of him, think of me at that point

786
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:53.719
<v Speaker 2>in time, kind of like an invincible, invisible Elon Musk type.

787
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:57.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, It's that's not the case. Brother. I am

788
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.239
<v Speaker 2>not the inventor of those warps, although I wish I

789
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:01.280
<v Speaker 2>had I would have been.

790
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that half Eric Davis know who made

791
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:04.880
<v Speaker 1>those orbs?

792
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Quite possible? I mean, these are people of extreme brilliance,

793
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:14.079
<v Speaker 2>and I'm pretty sure that, uh, they know a lot

794
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:19.760
<v Speaker 2>more than I do. Ye remember that they associated with

795
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:23.039
<v Speaker 2>a certain individual by the name of Jay Stratton. Why

796
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:29.280
<v Speaker 2>it was extremely to meet, although our paths did not

797
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:34.480
<v Speaker 2>intersect after that to my dismay, But yeah, Ja Stratton

798
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:37.519
<v Speaker 2>was one of the best. I'm not sure if it's

799
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:38.159
<v Speaker 2>quite possibly.

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00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:41.559
<v Speaker 1>Is you ever meet help poot Offer Eric Davis in person?

801
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:51.599
<v Speaker 2>No? I wish him, No, No, I haven't. In fact,

802
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:55.599
<v Speaker 2>the only person I met was Jay Stratton.

803
00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:02.079
<v Speaker 1>A chance who Ken Shoulders? You ever meet him?

804
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:05.159
<v Speaker 2>By I've heard of ken Shoulders, E Vos and so forth.

805
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:11.039
<v Speaker 2>But Bostic another one. Bussard, Oh my goodness, I love Bussard.

806
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 2>He's so funny. Everything he says about the idea that

807
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.840
<v Speaker 2>will never achieve fusion and a takamac is so right

808
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:20.360
<v Speaker 2>on the mink.

809
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.679
<v Speaker 1>I need that quote because I'm one hundred percent all

810
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:26.360
<v Speaker 1>in on tokamax just being a scam. What was the

811
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:28.960
<v Speaker 1>quote that like, he's never seen a star in the

812
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:33.039
<v Speaker 1>shape of in tape of a toroid before look.

813
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<v Speaker 2>Up, look up on YouTube. There must it must still

814
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.880
<v Speaker 2>be there he gave him. I think it was a

815
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Google talk and uh, he was so funny in it

816
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.360
<v Speaker 2>that the whole audience, and we'll talk about these are

817
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Google scholars, you know that, the whole audience just died laughing.

818
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:56.639
<v Speaker 2>He said, I do not recall ever seeing a star

819
00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:00.599
<v Speaker 2>in the form of a donut something like that, but

820
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:04.400
<v Speaker 2>the way he said it was so comical. Everyone just

821
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:05.679
<v Speaker 2>broke down and laughed.

822
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<v Speaker 1>It's like, so, when did you figure out that it's

823
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:10.039
<v Speaker 1>all about plasma.

824
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.039
<v Speaker 2>The mathematics if you look carefully at the price effect

825
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:20.119
<v Speaker 2>there's a O make a square term in the and

826
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:24.519
<v Speaker 2>that speaks to something that has to do with plasmos.

827
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<v Speaker 2>I'll leave it there.

828
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so when when did you figure that out? How

829
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:29.679
<v Speaker 1>long ago?

830
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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

831
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Man, nineties thousands?

832
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:40.119
<v Speaker 2>No, well, twenty fifteen, something of the nature that when

833
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:43.519
<v Speaker 2>I started putting stuff on paper, when I said, I

834
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 2>must try to at least publish these but nobody will

835
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:51.920
<v Speaker 2>take it as a matter of fact. Yeah, that SA

836
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:56.719
<v Speaker 2>paper and high frequency gravitation. Wait generation, thank you very

837
00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:59.920
<v Speaker 2>much for putting that out because it got a lot

838
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:03.199
<v Speaker 2>out of views. Brother, I tell you you are you're

839
00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:06.239
<v Speaker 2>starting to change the world. Man, You'll see. But anyway,

840
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:11.119
<v Speaker 2>so so I hope that these papers, you know, with

841
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:14.559
<v Speaker 2>your support, are gonna be seen by a lot of people.

842
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.639
<v Speaker 2>We just need a lot of people looking at these man.

843
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:21.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I'm done with the MIT physicists. I'm done

844
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:26.960
<v Speaker 2>with the Harvard type. They will never accept this number

845
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:32.440
<v Speaker 2>one because of n by number two. I don't know, jealousy, huh,

846
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:38.519
<v Speaker 2>prestige whatnot? And also and also the idea that an

847
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:46.039
<v Speaker 2>engineer thought these ideas before physicist did. There's an almost

848
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 2>an unspoken war between the physicists and the engineers. Nobody

849
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:56.239
<v Speaker 2>likes to touch it. But put it this way. Even

850
00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Einstein said, the smartest man he's ever met was Tesla.

851
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:05.559
<v Speaker 2>So the greatest physicist of all time recognized the greatest

852
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:10.280
<v Speaker 2>engineer of all time. How interesting it's about first victory.

853
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:12.440
<v Speaker 1>You should have given up on the academia in a

854
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:15.239
<v Speaker 1>while back. It's all I mean, media is dead. Academia

855
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:17.239
<v Speaker 1>is dead. It's all about social media. It's all about

856
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:19.039
<v Speaker 1>how many views you can get on social card.

857
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Man, it's hard. I come from them. I am one

858
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:25.599
<v Speaker 2>of them. You have to understand. I'm of a certain pedigree.

859
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I went through that process. I sweated blood and tears

860
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:33.119
<v Speaker 2>for the PhD qualifier. I was in that freaking room

861
00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:37.320
<v Speaker 2>for six and a half hours after doing ten days

862
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:41.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to solve an unsolvable problem. Basically, it didn't sleep

863
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:47.480
<v Speaker 2>for ten days. And then anyway, it's so once you

864
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:50.320
<v Speaker 2>go through that process, once you go through that process,

865
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:52.880
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to turn your back. These are my people.

866
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:56.039
<v Speaker 2>When your own people, when your own tribe does not

867
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:58.360
<v Speaker 2>accept you, what do you do?

868
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I want to ask a couple more questions, and

869
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:05.199
<v Speaker 1>then we got Dave back in the in the back room,

870
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:06.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to bring him up and then we can

871
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:08.519
<v Speaker 1>chat about some more science, and I'm gonna ask you

872
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:11.639
<v Speaker 1>guys about some UFO stuff as well. But I want

873
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:16.440
<v Speaker 1>to get your thoughts real quick on cold fusion Ponds

874
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:21.639
<v Speaker 1>and Fleischmann, so are familiar with their work at all?

875
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:25.000
<v Speaker 1>You mean do you mean do you mean.

876
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Low energy nuclear? No?

877
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, Sal, I'm just like the UFOs. I'm not rebranding

878
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:37.440
<v Speaker 1>into UAPs. I'm calling it cold fusion still, some people

879
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.880
<v Speaker 1>calling it low energy nuclear reactions. Now the new rebrand too,

880
00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 1>is catalyzed fusion that they're calling it.

881
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:48.559
<v Speaker 2>But it's a whole different physical mechanism. We're not talking

882
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:51.480
<v Speaker 2>about very high temperatures, very high pressures. This is a

883
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:55.519
<v Speaker 2>whole It's as if you're coercing, not you're not forcing,

884
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:57.559
<v Speaker 2>you basically pantalizing.

885
00:56:58.280 --> 00:56:58.440
<v Speaker 3>You know.

886
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:02.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like having a the ugly dude and a beautiful

887
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:06.599
<v Speaker 2>supermodel meeting on the dance floor, all right, and all

888
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:10.840
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden you see the supermodel being attracted toward

889
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:15.239
<v Speaker 2>this really ugly dude. But why because he's certain movements

890
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:18.840
<v Speaker 2>he's doing. He's doing the bah bah luli. You know

891
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:23.119
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. Yeah, he's got those moves, brother, So

892
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:27.199
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm talking about there. Look, there are many

893
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:29.880
<v Speaker 2>roads that lead to Rome. The whole idea is to

894
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:34.559
<v Speaker 2>get to Rome, but there's only one via apia. Remember that.

895
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, you answered like half my cold fusion questions in

896
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:43.760
<v Speaker 1>one response, which I appreciate because I was gonna build

897
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:46.639
<v Speaker 1>up to the point that I think that cold fusion

898
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:49.880
<v Speaker 1>is not being judged based on the right metrics, by

899
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:52.719
<v Speaker 1>the right results, because like you said, it's a complete

900
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:55.480
<v Speaker 1>different beasts. We're not dealing with high temperatures. I've heard

901
00:57:55.559 --> 00:58:02.599
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the Maxwell Bozeman equation or Bolts bol Boltzman

902
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:07.880
<v Speaker 1>sorry Matchael Boltzman uh curve, and that's used to figure

903
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:11.079
<v Speaker 1>out in hot fusion, like where the ignition level, the

904
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:14.119
<v Speaker 1>ideal temperature is for the ignition level. But when you're

905
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:16.480
<v Speaker 1>dealing with cold fusion, you're dealing with a complete different mechanism.

906
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.000
<v Speaker 1>You're not dealing with temperature is your main variable to

907
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:22.119
<v Speaker 1>You're actually dealing with like this pressure gradient where you're

908
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 1>just like you said, I love your analogy.

909
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Of the fact i'd dude with a supermodel. No, it's

910
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:31.239
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily fat, because you know, when you're of a

911
00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:36.480
<v Speaker 2>certain weight it's hard to do certain inertial reduction moves.

912
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.119
<v Speaker 2>But again, the whole idea is that the guy is

913
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:42.679
<v Speaker 2>not quote unquote on the same level as the chick,

914
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:47.000
<v Speaker 2>but she's extremely attractive to him. Why because of the

915
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:48.840
<v Speaker 2>movement in the ocean.

916
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

917
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Now, anyway, so so.

918
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:57.119
<v Speaker 1>You're not you hadn't seen Ken's shoulder stuff that you're

919
00:58:57.119 --> 00:58:59.920
<v Speaker 1>familiar with his work, because basically Ken's shoulders the same,

920
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and we can produce the self coherent balls of plasma

921
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:08.679
<v Speaker 1>that are self sustaining, self organizing, they are long, long lived.

922
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>And when I look at that, I go, oh, that's

923
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:14.960
<v Speaker 1>what we're looking at in these videos. We've got this

924
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:17.760
<v Speaker 1>ball of plasma that's not dissipating. You look at the

925
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:21.280
<v Speaker 1>heat signature. Heat signature, there is uniform with the background.

926
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Have you read Jackna Champkins Force Free Time Harmonic Plasmoid's

927
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:27.960
<v Speaker 1>paper By any chance.

928
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I have not, but please send it to me.

929
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:35.679
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you didn't get your inspiration from any of

930
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:40.199
<v Speaker 1>those guys went on your plasma fusion confinement.

931
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Very simple, simple stuff, everything simple. As a matter of fact,

932
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the navit, the pattern attorney, who happens to be a

933
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.199
<v Speaker 2>very good friend of mine, His name is Mark Lute

934
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:59.360
<v Speaker 2>g l ut of Ukrainian American Ukrainian, but Glute is

935
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:03.920
<v Speaker 2>pronounced not blood glute, Mark Lute. He basically said, the

936
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.280
<v Speaker 2>price effect is like a bag of chips. You keep

937
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:10.400
<v Speaker 2>on taking one after another after another, you keep on

938
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:14.840
<v Speaker 2>wanting some more. The whole idea is that the same

939
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:19.599
<v Speaker 2>physical phenomena can apply to different applications. That's the whole thing.

940
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:23.880
<v Speaker 2>And when it came to the plasma compression fusion device,

941
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:28.840
<v Speaker 2>everything just you know. I actually saw, I actually saw

942
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:32.320
<v Speaker 2>the dynamic fuses, how they would have to work, how

943
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:35.199
<v Speaker 2>they would counter rotate. For the first time in my life.

944
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I remember reading up a Tesla having a similar thing

945
01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:42.360
<v Speaker 2>having run through his mind. He already knew his invention

946
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:46.280
<v Speaker 2>would operate before he actually put it into practice. I

947
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:49.840
<v Speaker 2>saw that plasma compression fusion device working. I know it

948
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:50.360
<v Speaker 2>will work.

949
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the reason why I bring it up is

950
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:56.519
<v Speaker 1>that in Jackna Champion's paper nineteen ninety two force free

951
01:00:56.599 --> 01:01:01.719
<v Speaker 1>time Harmonic Plasmoids, he is specifically bringing up the energy

952
01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:07.159
<v Speaker 1>levels and that are these massive energy levels. How Fox

953
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.119
<v Speaker 1>that worked with Ken's shoulders also brought up the energy levels.

954
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:14.199
<v Speaker 1>I have a link to that but in here he's

955
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:16.800
<v Speaker 1>also saying it seems like that the temperature would be

956
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:19.679
<v Speaker 1>equivalent to the background atmosphere, which is what we see

957
01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:22.440
<v Speaker 1>in those videos. But then down here at the bottom

958
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.320
<v Speaker 1>says casmir forces will arise in situations we're owing to

959
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the high conductivity of the plasma. Due to the large

960
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:32.599
<v Speaker 1>number of free electrons, components of the electromagnetic zero point

961
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:37.360
<v Speaker 1>background energy cannot penetrate uniformly into the plasma. This will

962
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:41.400
<v Speaker 1>result in a lower energy density within the plasmoid and

963
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:45.360
<v Speaker 1>an apparent pressure gradient due to the vacuum. Now I

964
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:47.920
<v Speaker 1>read that, and I read what you just mentioned, and

965
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:50.239
<v Speaker 1>then I go, wow, you haven't read this, because it

966
01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:53.400
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you're saying the exact same things that you're creating.

967
01:01:54.159 --> 01:01:56.599
<v Speaker 1>You're pushing out zero point energy from a certain region

968
01:01:56.639 --> 01:01:59.519
<v Speaker 1>of space, changing the primitivity of that region of space,

969
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:02.440
<v Speaker 1>which change the speed of light, and now you're creating

970
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:05.440
<v Speaker 1>a bubble. Creating a bubble there is that? How would

971
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you read that?

972
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I would read it as a plasma bore. That's what

973
01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I was created within my dynamic fuses. But no, this

974
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:16.559
<v Speaker 2>is one. This is on the record. I have never

975
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:20.559
<v Speaker 2>read that paper before, nor seen it again. All the

976
01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:25.760
<v Speaker 2>price effect inventions are original. They came out of the

977
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:27.159
<v Speaker 2>acastic field. Let's call it.

978
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's let's bring Dave on. If you're ready, we

979
01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:36.559
<v Speaker 1>can just kind of nerd out a little smiling in

980
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the background. Here we go.

981
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:42.760
<v Speaker 3>What's going on?

982
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.519
<v Speaker 2>You feeling, man? How you feeling much better?

983
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:47.519
<v Speaker 3>Thank you? Thank you much better. This has been a

984
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:51.960
<v Speaker 3>fantastic stream I've been watching from the beginning. This is beautiful, awesome.

985
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you guys for both for being here. I

986
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:56.760
<v Speaker 1>want to talk some science. I want to talk some physics.

987
01:02:56.840 --> 01:02:58.719
<v Speaker 1>But before we get to that, let's talk a little

988
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 1>bit about this UFO community stuff that's going on. Actually,

989
01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:07.119
<v Speaker 1>I want to start with the letter that sal you

990
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:10.440
<v Speaker 1>submitted through Dave Rossy. Here, we got everybody here, got

991
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Dave banned actually on Twitter. I don't think he's on

992
01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:17.079
<v Speaker 1>by the way, so's out there.

993
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come on, elon, just watch the last project Unity pod.

994
01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Come on, see what I have to say about you.

995
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Come on.

996
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I watched that Projectility interview, and in that

997
01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:33.679
<v Speaker 1>interview you actually were asked about something similar related to

998
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:35.760
<v Speaker 1>this letter. The thing that stuck out in the letter

999
01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to me was that you say you believe in human technology. Yeah,

1000
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:47.159
<v Speaker 1>and Project Unity Jay asked you about this and and said,

1001
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, so, are you saying that we could have

1002
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:51.119
<v Speaker 1>figured this out? You kind of allude to the fact

1003
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that we humans could have figured this out. But the

1004
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:56.079
<v Speaker 1>thing that I took away with just see I want

1005
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:58.079
<v Speaker 1>to know your opinion on is that it almost seemed

1006
01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:01.639
<v Speaker 1>like you were saying that, like, we've figured some alien

1007
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:04.960
<v Speaker 1>technology out and now we're trying to weaponize it in

1008
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:10.119
<v Speaker 1>a way that the aliens would not have used the technology. Man,

1009
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that was a freaky thing. Is that what you were

1010
01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:13.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to say, is that what you're trying to get

1011
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:16.199
<v Speaker 1>across when you talk about using human technology and that

1012
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you believe in human technology, or what do you mean

1013
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:18.199
<v Speaker 1>by that?

1014
01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:21.960
<v Speaker 2>No, I'll basically what I was saying is that any

1015
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:28.880
<v Speaker 2>reversed engineer technology based on quote unquote these ancient, antique

1016
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:33.559
<v Speaker 2>whatever et craft that we happened to find in a

1017
01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:43.079
<v Speaker 2>pyramid like structure or so forth, the let's call them

1018
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:47.800
<v Speaker 2>the non human or rather the extraterrestrials or who knows

1019
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:52.119
<v Speaker 2>exactly what they are, but whoever these individuals are, whatever

1020
01:04:52.239 --> 01:04:56.639
<v Speaker 2>these entities are, Okay, they would know their own technology

1021
01:04:56.760 --> 01:05:00.360
<v Speaker 2>far better than us. So if God forbid there was

1022
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:04.760
<v Speaker 2>an armada, say by approxima sound Tory, about to attack

1023
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:07.280
<v Speaker 2>our solar system and take over Earth for its natural

1024
01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:10.400
<v Speaker 2>resources and so forth, we will stand a much better

1025
01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:14.760
<v Speaker 2>chance not having to deal with the trojan horse. So

1026
01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:18.800
<v Speaker 2>in other words, they know their own technology. Anything developed

1027
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:22.920
<v Speaker 2>based on their own technology, they can defeat against what

1028
01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:25.719
<v Speaker 2>could take them by surprise. And man is man made

1029
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:29.480
<v Speaker 2>technology something that Alliver heavy Side and Tesla dreamed up.

1030
01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Say you understand that's simple oscillator hooked into say a

1031
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Tesla coil of some sort, generating a certain plasma vibrating

1032
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:45.320
<v Speaker 2>a certain frequency, could generate some wild that can take

1033
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:47.440
<v Speaker 2>this ship down. That's all.

1034
01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a pretty crazy thought. Plasma, but we

1035
01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:55.280
<v Speaker 1>figured out how to turn into a death ray.

1036
01:05:55.360 --> 01:06:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Because we heard that a long time. That's right. I

1037
01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:06.760
<v Speaker 2>speaking of our president elect Trump, ask him what's up

1038
01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:11.519
<v Speaker 2>with this? His uncle over there. I'll let you he

1039
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:13.239
<v Speaker 2>knows certain things I don't.

1040
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of that, let me hear both your guys opinions

1041
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:19.280
<v Speaker 1>on do you think that there's gonna be any difference

1042
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:22.079
<v Speaker 1>in the new administration? Do you think who administration is

1043
01:06:22.119 --> 01:06:24.280
<v Speaker 1>in charge makes any difference at all when it comes

1044
01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:27.320
<v Speaker 1>to disclosure of this technology and UFO stuff.

1045
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:32.280
<v Speaker 3>It'll be a fight. In my opinion. Who's gonna win,

1046
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:36.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but it'll be a fight. It's it's weird.

1047
01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:43.199
<v Speaker 3>There's some people that are in the position to bring

1048
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.960
<v Speaker 3>these things forward that are saying to certain individuals or

1049
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:49.800
<v Speaker 3>groups that if you do this strategically and correctly, there

1050
01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:51.599
<v Speaker 3>might be a way to do it. And there's other

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01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:53.599
<v Speaker 3>people that don't ever want it to see the light

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01:06:53.639 --> 01:06:56.039
<v Speaker 3>of day. From where I am, my little corner of

1053
01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:58.559
<v Speaker 3>the world, and I'm not speaking for sal or anybody else,

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01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:00.440
<v Speaker 3>but from what I see, it's an on going fight.

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01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:04.320
<v Speaker 3>At the moment, that's what I see.

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01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I could.

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01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:08.679
<v Speaker 3>I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's more beneficial and forthcoming,

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01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:11.639
<v Speaker 3>but that's that's what I see at the moment.

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01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:15.639
<v Speaker 1>So what about you. Do you think the administration makes

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01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:18.360
<v Speaker 1>any difference As somebody who's worked on the inside with

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01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the military.

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01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Even as a private citizen, Given that I am a

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01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:28.719
<v Speaker 2>government employee, I will and I'm still obligated under the

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01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:34.639
<v Speaker 2>Hatch Act to reserve any and all such opinions. However,

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01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:39.039
<v Speaker 2>from an alternative idea point, of view, this whole idea

1066
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:43.760
<v Speaker 2>of camps again, the children of the darkness versus the

1067
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:47.719
<v Speaker 2>children of the light. This is an ongoing war. This

1068
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:51.039
<v Speaker 2>will not stop, This will not change in any way,

1069
01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:54.559
<v Speaker 2>shape or form. I'm not even sure if any side

1070
01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:59.760
<v Speaker 2>should win, because light cannot exist without darkness.

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01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Now let me let me jump onto that thene so

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01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Peter Thiel was on Joe Rogan and one of the

1073
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:12.119
<v Speaker 1>things that he said was, what if if aliens are

1074
01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:16.359
<v Speaker 1>getting to Earth and they've got this warp drive technology,

1075
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:21.680
<v Speaker 1>this fancy technology that's basically your patents, that potentially they

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01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:24.520
<v Speaker 1>would have to be a civilization that's either all angels

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01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:27.319
<v Speaker 1>or all demons. And he says that because he's saying

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01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:31.199
<v Speaker 1>that we have to be all perfectly altruistic or some

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01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:36.000
<v Speaker 1>type of totalitarian, pre crime minority report situation where we

1080
01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:39.239
<v Speaker 1>can all hear each other's thoughts so that nobody would

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01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:43.680
<v Speaker 1>use this technology to annihilate the entire civilization. Do you

1082
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:46.680
<v Speaker 1>agree with that? What are your guys' views? We'll start

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01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:47.199
<v Speaker 1>with sal.

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01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my goodness again this unfortunately, this physics can be

1085
01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:59.840
<v Speaker 2>greatly weaponized. I mean, it can make say, the Rashnik

1086
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:04.680
<v Speaker 2>look like looking uh I don't know, a pencil thrown

1087
01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:08.640
<v Speaker 2>in the air that comes apart, you know, clusters of pencils,

1088
01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:17.840
<v Speaker 2>still a fucking pencil. Excuse my language. Uh So I

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01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:20.479
<v Speaker 2>passed it on to Brad Rassi, please.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a mixed bag. And what I mean

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01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:26.520
<v Speaker 3>by that is, for example, if you have a species

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01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:29.640
<v Speaker 3>that is more advanced in a certain field, then with

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01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:34.560
<v Speaker 3>regards to you know, propulsion or a form of engineering,

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01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:38.439
<v Speaker 3>the space time metric, in my opinion, it doesn't necessarily

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01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:43.600
<v Speaker 3>mean that they're entirely altruistic or entirely evil. Completely. If

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01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:45.800
<v Speaker 3>we think of the notion of what you've studied quite

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01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.119
<v Speaker 3>a lot about on your on your show's action of

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01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:51.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, fractals, and you know, there's talk of, you know,

1099
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:55.279
<v Speaker 3>on the spiritual side, people talk about you know, higher self,

1100
01:09:55.399 --> 01:09:58.279
<v Speaker 3>lower self, et cetera. It's possible some of these species

1101
01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:01.479
<v Speaker 3>may be more matured. But again, when we think of

1102
01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:06.159
<v Speaker 3>the notion of pure philosophical perspective, that doesn't necessarily mean

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01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:09.359
<v Speaker 3>within our I guess you could say, vector of understanding

1104
01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:13.039
<v Speaker 3>that they that they're doing good or bad relative to us,

1105
01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:17.159
<v Speaker 3>or even relative to them. I think it's a it's

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01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:20.119
<v Speaker 3>a mixed bag. I think it depends who we're dealing with.

1107
01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:24.479
<v Speaker 3>How why I think we're dealing with a mixed bag.

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01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:26.479
<v Speaker 3>I really do. That's just my opinion.

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01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:30.479
<v Speaker 1>But so all these UFOs have been an increase in

1110
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:34.399
<v Speaker 1>sightings in the last just week alone. Where do we

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01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:35.960
<v Speaker 1>stand on what these things are? Do we think this

1112
01:10:36.119 --> 01:10:37.960
<v Speaker 1>is a craft of somebody inside it? Do we think

1113
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:41.079
<v Speaker 1>this is a plasma orb that's floating around. Do we

1114
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:43.359
<v Speaker 1>think it's a drone with lights connected to it? Do

1115
01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:46.479
<v Speaker 1>we think it's some combination while of the above? Where

1116
01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:46.960
<v Speaker 1>do we stand?

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01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:49.359
<v Speaker 3>Almost? Could I if I could say really quickly and

1118
01:10:49.399 --> 01:10:51.840
<v Speaker 3>forgive me Ashton, because I don't mean to deviate from

1119
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:53.800
<v Speaker 3>the when you guys had talked in the beginning of

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01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:56.439
<v Speaker 3>the stream about a power source on the craft, I

1121
01:10:56.600 --> 01:10:58.720
<v Speaker 3>just want to say, in the way I interpret it,

1122
01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:01.119
<v Speaker 3>And again, as brothers Sell said, there are many different

1123
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:03.439
<v Speaker 3>ways you could skin this cat. So one way that

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01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:06.560
<v Speaker 3>I interpreted is that the craft in many in some

1125
01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:10.800
<v Speaker 3>cases may have occupants on it. There is, in my opinion,

1126
01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:13.319
<v Speaker 3>a power source. But I would argue the power source

1127
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:17.640
<v Speaker 3>acts more as a facilitator between the local vacuum and

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01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:21.039
<v Speaker 3>the actual what's inside the craft. Now inside the craft.

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01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:25.079
<v Speaker 3>You're going to have the mass of everything way completely

1130
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:28.399
<v Speaker 3>differently than everything outside of the craft. So you'll be

1131
01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:32.399
<v Speaker 3>able to have something that would be hypothetically, you know,

1132
01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:35.319
<v Speaker 3>many many hundreds of pounds heavy on the craft, but

1133
01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:39.399
<v Speaker 3>from an external observer or measurer, the craft and the

1134
01:11:39.479 --> 01:11:42.680
<v Speaker 3>all the objects in it weigh almost zero in its weight.

1135
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Now in terms of are there, I think you were

1136
01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:49.479
<v Speaker 3>dealing with motherships. I think then from there we're dealing

1137
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:52.600
<v Speaker 3>with probes like you know, orbs probes the way we

1138
01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:56.720
<v Speaker 3>send you know, we have a you know, a Boeing

1139
01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:59.239
<v Speaker 3>seven fifty seven, and then maybe we throw some drones

1140
01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:01.319
<v Speaker 3>off of it to veil a certain area on the

1141
01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:04.760
<v Speaker 3>land before we send our soldiers in, for example, we

1142
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:06.800
<v Speaker 3>could be dealing with something like that. Perhaps.

1143
01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:09.880
<v Speaker 1>So do you think that element one fifteen is a

1144
01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:10.920
<v Speaker 1>real thing?

1145
01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Then? I here, here's what's interesting. I have to say.

1146
01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:16.800
<v Speaker 3>I go back and forth. I really do, because when

1147
01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:21.119
<v Speaker 3>you look at the specifically Edward Teller, what Edward Teller's

1148
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:24.039
<v Speaker 3>lawyers had said about when he met Bob Lazar or

1149
01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:28.079
<v Speaker 3>allegedly I'm paraphrasing here, but Edward Teller's lawyers shortly before

1150
01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:31.960
<v Speaker 3>mister teller died had in the late nineties said our

1151
01:12:32.039 --> 01:12:35.439
<v Speaker 3>clients never met mister Lazarre, but if he did, then

1152
01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:38.479
<v Speaker 3>they never spoke. And if they never spoke, then they

1153
01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:43.479
<v Speaker 3>didn't meet. But if they did meet, then they never engaged.

1154
01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:47.800
<v Speaker 3>So it was a very carefully crafted response with regards

1155
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:50.840
<v Speaker 3>to if they actually met or not. Do I think

1156
01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:54.880
<v Speaker 3>element one P. Fifteen is real? I think that's moscovium

1157
01:12:55.119 --> 01:12:57.920
<v Speaker 3>if I'm not mistaken. I believe it's been reproduced in

1158
01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:00.560
<v Speaker 3>a German lab for like a fraction of second. If

1159
01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:03.840
<v Speaker 3>that it's I think it's possible. At the same time,

1160
01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:06.319
<v Speaker 3>if I could just say quickly, I think the reason

1161
01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:12.600
<v Speaker 3>why nobody wants to admit about admit any truth with

1162
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:15.000
<v Speaker 3>regards to the Bob Lazar story and the S four

1163
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:18.399
<v Speaker 3>stuff is because just by admitting to it, you're incriminating

1164
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:21.000
<v Speaker 3>yourself if you had any knowledge on it. Because the

1165
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:24.800
<v Speaker 3>programs were so off the books that it's it's basically

1166
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:27.840
<v Speaker 3>they're trying, you know, trying to whitewash, not make a

1167
01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:30.199
<v Speaker 3>witch hunt, so to speak. And there's our arguments about that.

1168
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Do I lean towards the way generally what mister Lazarre

1169
01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:37.640
<v Speaker 3>says being true yeah my opinion.

1170
01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Now what about you, what do you think, Bob Zar,

1171
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:43.520
<v Speaker 1>what do you think about element one fifteen?

1172
01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about element one fifteen. But one thing

1173
01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:50.319
<v Speaker 2>that he said is that the sports model, this thing

1174
01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:52.800
<v Speaker 2>that he was describing, it's as if it was three

1175
01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:56.039
<v Speaker 2>D printed out of the fabric of space time itself.

1176
01:13:56.680 --> 01:14:01.560
<v Speaker 2>That speaks directly to the super force, super force that

1177
01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:06.800
<v Speaker 2>acts on the spatial temporal geometric structure locally to create

1178
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:12.960
<v Speaker 2>energy density hence matter, generation of matter directly as if

1179
01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:16.000
<v Speaker 2>three D printed out of space time itself, the nature

1180
01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:20.159
<v Speaker 2>of our reality. I truly believe Lazar is correct.

1181
01:14:21.199 --> 01:14:23.800
<v Speaker 3>If I can give another hint as well, Lazarre had

1182
01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:26.600
<v Speaker 3>talked about his gravity A wave and gravity B wave.

1183
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:31.000
<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, I think what he's describing is identical

1184
01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:34.960
<v Speaker 3>what he described there is dealing with DC gravity and

1185
01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:39.159
<v Speaker 3>AC gravity. There's certain researchers I won't say the names,

1186
01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:42.680
<v Speaker 3>but they stumbled upon the same thing about fifteen twenty

1187
01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:46.239
<v Speaker 3>years ago before they disappeared, dealing with there being two

1188
01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:49.760
<v Speaker 3>types of gravity that could be gravitational waves that could

1189
01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:56.039
<v Speaker 3>be generated electromagnetically specifically dealing with again static gravity, and

1190
01:14:56.159 --> 01:14:58.560
<v Speaker 3>then an alternating current type of gravity. So I'll just

1191
01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:01.239
<v Speaker 3>leave that there. There are cons distancies when you if

1192
01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:03.760
<v Speaker 3>you have the if people have the resources to dig

1193
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:08.000
<v Speaker 3>deep enough, there are consistencies that you'll find between various researchers,

1194
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:10.840
<v Speaker 3>and and what Lazar said in many regards.

1195
01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Mainly as one of those researchers, Eugene Popkinov, you think.

1196
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:16.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to I don't want to get anybody,

1197
01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:18.880
<v Speaker 3>including brother sal or myself in trouble. So that's why

1198
01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:20.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to say there were researchers out there.

1199
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of which brothers at this point in time, quick interruption. Sorry,

1200
01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Brother Ashton, sorry Brother Rossi. Neither Brother Rossi, nor Brother Ashton,

1201
01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:31.479
<v Speaker 2>nor myself. I'm not speaking for them, but I'm one

1202
01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:34.840
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent sure they're of the same mindset. None of

1203
01:15:35.119 --> 01:15:41.000
<v Speaker 2>us are in the mindset that or thought of suiciding ourselves.

1204
01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Just in case anybody out there gets brilliant ideas.

1205
01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:46.439
<v Speaker 1>There, you got.

1206
01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:50.159
<v Speaker 3>What I will say. What I will say is that

1207
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:54.079
<v Speaker 3>there are experiments that are slowly considered now as being

1208
01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:57.800
<v Speaker 3>part of what's been called extended electrodynamics. They're somewhat being

1209
01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:03.319
<v Speaker 3>discussed at an unclassified level dealing with certain objects that

1210
01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:06.199
<v Speaker 3>may or may not be rotating, where they either gain

1211
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:09.840
<v Speaker 3>or lose their weight in very minuscule levels, and there

1212
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:12.840
<v Speaker 3>may have been attempts to scale that, and if the

1213
01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:16.319
<v Speaker 3>attempts to scale it were successful, they would probably not

1214
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:17.680
<v Speaker 3>have made those results public.

1215
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that it really comes down to plasma.

1216
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Though you know, a lot of those results, one of

1217
01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the things I've always noticed about them is that the

1218
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:28.199
<v Speaker 1>results are never really that great. Well, when it came

1219
01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:31.239
<v Speaker 1>to these evos, there's something amazing about it, which is

1220
01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:36.640
<v Speaker 1>that these electrons are clustering together in huge densities that

1221
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:40.840
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't normally cluster together in it something called cold plasma.

1222
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:44.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, Yeah, this is the part where I'll

1223
01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:46.159
<v Speaker 3>just openly say it, and this is what I'm about

1224
01:16:46.199 --> 01:16:48.840
<v Speaker 3>to say here is not a reflection on any of

1225
01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:51.359
<v Speaker 3>the views that brother sal has. I just want to

1226
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:53.600
<v Speaker 3>clarify that in any way these are my own views.

1227
01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:57.119
<v Speaker 3>But I would dare to say that when we talk

1228
01:16:57.159 --> 01:17:00.760
<v Speaker 3>about again the words, you know, negative energy, it's possible

1229
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:03.600
<v Speaker 3>that electricity, the way that we normally think of current

1230
01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:06.039
<v Speaker 3>as being hot, it's possible it can be it can

1231
01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:10.439
<v Speaker 3>get cold if you can reverse its entropy, and I'll

1232
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:14.239
<v Speaker 3>leave I'll leave that there again. If I've said this before,

1233
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:16.720
<v Speaker 3>I think a year, year and a half ago, if

1234
01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:19.359
<v Speaker 3>people look into what the source charge problem is that

1235
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:22.960
<v Speaker 3>has still been unresolved in mainstream physics, and it's I

1236
01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:25.159
<v Speaker 3>don't even think many people even know about it today.

1237
01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:30.279
<v Speaker 3>The electrodynamicist experts of many years ago did the source

1238
01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:33.520
<v Speaker 3>charge problem dealing with where energy actually comes from. And

1239
01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:36.640
<v Speaker 3>if and I'll just leave that there, I think there's

1240
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:40.119
<v Speaker 3>something with the vector and scaler potentials that i'll I'll

1241
01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:40.680
<v Speaker 3>leave that there.

1242
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:42.560
<v Speaker 1>So how do you believe in the ether?

1243
01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I believe in the quantum vacuum? Well the lum again,

1244
01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:56.000
<v Speaker 2>brother man, you gotta remember my tribe. What's the see?

1245
01:17:56.479 --> 01:17:58.760
<v Speaker 2>And you one hundred percent right, you know, I will

1246
01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I will only try to be part of them because

1247
01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I am part of them. And it's that's why it

1248
01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:07.439
<v Speaker 2>hurts so much to be cold a pseudoscientists. That's why

1249
01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I truly hope somebody out there will will will run

1250
01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:15.840
<v Speaker 2>a quick experiment of the Piace effect and prove me right.

1251
01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:19.479
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think I think what I'm about to say

1252
01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:23.239
<v Speaker 3>here too. One final thing, forgive me sal for interrupting you.

1253
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:26.920
<v Speaker 3>What I'm about to say here is is going to

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01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:30.359
<v Speaker 3>be very controversial, and it does not represent anyone else's

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01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:34.119
<v Speaker 3>views in any way. I believe that the energy densities

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01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:38.039
<v Speaker 3>that sal has been discussed in his amazing papers and

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01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:42.000
<v Speaker 3>in his patents are achievable when you have the implementation

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01:18:42.279 --> 01:18:47.119
<v Speaker 3>of negative energy working in a very conducious like form

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01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:51.479
<v Speaker 3>where the cold side or the negative side offsets the

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01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:54.520
<v Speaker 3>heat or positive side. So you can attain these densities

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01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:56.920
<v Speaker 3>in a certain way that would that do break the

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01:18:56.920 --> 01:19:00.199
<v Speaker 3>Shwinger limit. It is that is not considered to be

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01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:03.560
<v Speaker 3>mainstream in any capacity. I probably get made fun of

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01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:05.960
<v Speaker 3>a lot if I said that in open groups, although

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01:19:05.960 --> 01:19:09.039
<v Speaker 3>again many closed groups I've spoken to have acknowledged this,

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01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:13.920
<v Speaker 3>So you start getting into, you know, controversial territory. But

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01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I am very confident that sells inventions are very feasible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you think it's Do you guys think that

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01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:30.319
<v Speaker 1>it's analogous or exactly the same as the dynamic Casimir effect.

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01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Do you think the dynamic Casmir effect is breaking the

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01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:38.000
<v Speaker 1>shower limit and causing photon pair production to I.

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01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:41.199
<v Speaker 3>Think if you can use resonance to scale up what

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01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:44.199
<v Speaker 3>the Casmir effect does, then you can break it, Yeah,

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01:19:45.239 --> 01:19:46.640
<v Speaker 3>I think so, Yeah.

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01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:48.199
<v Speaker 1>What about you, Sal, what do you think about dynamic

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01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Casmir effects?

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01:19:50.399 --> 01:19:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Interesting mechanism. Again, quite complex for my palate, But then again,

1278
01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I go with simple things trying to solve complex problems.

1279
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:04.039
<v Speaker 2>I've always believed that the solution to all complex problems

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01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:07.119
<v Speaker 2>is simple, depending on perspective how you look at it.

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01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:11.359
<v Speaker 3>So there's there's a pathth into regarding the Casimir effect.

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01:20:11.399 --> 01:20:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Sorry Ashton, that I'll send to you that your audience

1283
01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:16.399
<v Speaker 3>may be interested if you haven't seen it already, dealing

1284
01:20:16.479 --> 01:20:20.000
<v Speaker 3>with deploying a certain type of monoatomic gas inside the

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01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:23.800
<v Speaker 3>cavity to lower the ground state of the vacuum fluctuations,

1286
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:28.159
<v Speaker 3>to extract more energy from the potentials that now become

1287
01:20:28.319 --> 01:20:32.279
<v Speaker 3>real observable particle fluctuations. And then if again, if you

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01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:35.000
<v Speaker 3>can use resonance to scale that up. I'm not going

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01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:37.720
<v Speaker 3>to with respect I will not go into how to

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01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:41.439
<v Speaker 3>how to engineer that practically on the stream here, but

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01:20:41.640 --> 01:20:44.279
<v Speaker 3>if one could use resonance, I think that there's an

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01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:48.239
<v Speaker 3>entire field of physics that Tesla was onto, that brother

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01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Sal is onto very strongly, that is has completely been

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01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:56.720
<v Speaker 3>whitewashed from from the from the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, are you talking about it? And Bernard Hayes's cosmir

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01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:03.920
<v Speaker 1>cavity pattern that I'm gonna steal in a couple of

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01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:04.760
<v Speaker 1>years when it expires.

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01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:09.199
<v Speaker 3>There's another one as well. It's from some Asian individuals,

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01:21:09.279 --> 01:21:12.680
<v Speaker 3>but they uh, I think they're I'm not sure if

1300
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:15.159
<v Speaker 3>they're Chinese or not. But anyways, the point is is

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<v Speaker 3>that you have to think geometry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That was one thing that I never expected with

1303
01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:24.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this is how much of a difference

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01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:25.720
<v Speaker 1>frequency plays a role.

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01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:29.680
<v Speaker 2>So uh oh, speaking of what talot, you hit on

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01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:33.319
<v Speaker 2>something when you said frequency, it's really important. Okay, that

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01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:36.720
<v Speaker 2>frequency square term. If you get me in a skiff

1308
01:21:37.439 --> 01:21:41.800
<v Speaker 2>with some very important people, Phutov can be there, w

1309
01:21:42.119 --> 01:21:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Davis can be there, of course, Dave you, everyone that mattis,

1310
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Jay Stratton, everyone that madis and has some say saying

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01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:58.159
<v Speaker 2>this whole thing possibly elan down the road. I can

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01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:01.600
<v Speaker 2>show in less than five minutes when I'm talking about that,

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01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:05.880
<v Speaker 2>given that omega square term, I can we we can

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01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:07.479
<v Speaker 2>break the Shwinger limit.

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01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Do you think those guys don't know that though, like

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01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:12.159
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they have to know.

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01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:14.720
<v Speaker 3>No, they know, they know. No, they know.

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01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:17.439
<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm not That's why I'm not being brought

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01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:20.359
<v Speaker 2>into a skiff and question anyway.

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01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that that kind of goes to my next

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01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:28.039
<v Speaker 1>point is sal you told me, you said, if you

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01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:31.199
<v Speaker 1>go on Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson, bring me with you.

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01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:35.359
<v Speaker 1>So that still hasn't happened, but that offer stands out there.

1324
01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>If Tucker Carlson people are watching, Joe Rogan is watching,

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01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:41.359
<v Speaker 1>what is it that you want to say to Joe

1326
01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Rogan or Tucker Carlson, Why do you want to go on?

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<v Speaker 2>Unification? Brother? The only way this Earth can survive given

1328
01:22:55.399 --> 01:22:58.880
<v Speaker 2>what is coming. And I tell you what is coming

1329
01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:01.960
<v Speaker 2>will be a test like humanity has never sinned before

1330
01:23:02.079 --> 01:23:10.680
<v Speaker 2>since the flood. The unified Earth can withstand it. It

1331
01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:15.840
<v Speaker 2>takes advanced physics to deal with it. If we do

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01:23:16.039 --> 01:23:21.239
<v Speaker 2>not come together as a united Earth, leave aside all

1333
01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:29.680
<v Speaker 2>our differences, enjoy the idea of homo sapient sapien jubilate

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01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:37.680
<v Speaker 2>in the fact we are humans. We shall fall like

1335
01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:43.640
<v Speaker 2>we've never forfell before. We had a chance after the flood,

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01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:50.640
<v Speaker 2>given the historical narrative, I don't think we'll have a

1337
01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:55.079
<v Speaker 2>chance this time. Unless we come together for the event occurs.

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01:23:55.279 --> 01:23:57.479
<v Speaker 2>I will not say what the event is. I dare

1339
01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:02.960
<v Speaker 2>not even think it because your thoughts become actions under

1340
01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:05.560
<v Speaker 2>certain conditions, So it's better you leave it.

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01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's kind of where do we

1342
01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:11.399
<v Speaker 1>talk about it? Because people out there speculating, there's so

1343
01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:16.159
<v Speaker 1>much confusion in the UFO community about is there gonna

1344
01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:19.560
<v Speaker 1>be a Project Bluebeam? Are the aliens invading us? Are

1345
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:21.279
<v Speaker 1>we gonna get hit by an asteroid?

1346
01:24:22.159 --> 01:24:22.199
<v Speaker 3>Like?

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01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:26.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, sure your thoughts can manifest reality, but how

1348
01:24:26.119 --> 01:24:29.359
<v Speaker 1>do we stop something unless we are already talking about

1349
01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:31.319
<v Speaker 1>it in the open? You know, So what are we

1350
01:24:31.359 --> 01:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>dealing with here? We're dealing with alien invasion? Are the

1351
01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>aliens gonna come out of the water? Are they gonna

1352
01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:38.399
<v Speaker 1>come back from you know, they visited us fifty years ago?

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01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Or you know, if I could say a natural cycle

1354
01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:44.520
<v Speaker 3>of the planet that is in harmony with the cosmos

1355
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:48.840
<v Speaker 3>that lifts the veil energetically on certain phenomena that we're

1356
01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:52.600
<v Speaker 3>always right in front of us, but we're too energetically

1357
01:24:52.720 --> 01:24:56.039
<v Speaker 3>covered up for us to notice. I think that sales

1358
01:24:56.079 --> 01:25:00.239
<v Speaker 3>technology could help stop it. My opinion is that I

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01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:02.239
<v Speaker 3>could be wrong my technology.

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01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:06.560
<v Speaker 2>It's our technology. Sure, thank you, sure, speaking of this NonStop.

1361
01:25:06.840 --> 01:25:10.279
<v Speaker 2>So now it's our technology, and that the three of us,

1362
01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:16.880
<v Speaker 2>the entire worlds. Yes, I believe these patent applications were

1363
01:25:17.039 --> 01:25:23.760
<v Speaker 2>let where where by some great act of God, I

1364
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:26.199
<v Speaker 2>don't know what else to call it. They were led

1365
01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:35.760
<v Speaker 2>into the public consciousness to facilitate a possible way out. Yes, nightmare.

1366
01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:39.600
<v Speaker 3>There's what I'm going to say here has already been

1367
01:25:39.720 --> 01:25:44.079
<v Speaker 3>public knowledge by mister Boyd Bushman, the controversial Lockheed Martin

1368
01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:48.720
<v Speaker 3>engineer who made a few videos before he died dealing

1369
01:25:48.800 --> 01:25:53.760
<v Speaker 3>with the possibility of what's called the apophice comment uh

1370
01:25:53.960 --> 01:25:58.039
<v Speaker 3>in correspondence with a potential poll flip of the planet.

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01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:02.920
<v Speaker 3>It's pass every twelve thirteen thousand years, the planet and

1372
01:26:03.039 --> 01:26:06.079
<v Speaker 3>we as a species go through a cycle, and we

1373
01:26:06.199 --> 01:26:07.880
<v Speaker 3>may be coming up to the end of that cycle

1374
01:26:09.079 --> 01:26:09.560
<v Speaker 3>once more.

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01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I've heard all the doomsday stuff, but

1376
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>it's something like that. There's nothing we can do about,

1377
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, the polls flip whatever. I mean, doesn't matter

1378
01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>where you're going to be, You're you're just lucky to

1379
01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:24.159
<v Speaker 1>draw at that point we can annihilate and if the

1380
01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>aliens come invade the heck. If they don't have teleportation

1381
01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:30.279
<v Speaker 1>technology or annihilation whatever the heck we're doing, then you know,

1382
01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>good luck to them. Now with a let's assume that

1383
01:26:35.119 --> 01:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>the A three seven zero videos are real. I already

1384
01:26:37.159 --> 01:26:39.239
<v Speaker 1>know they're real, but let's just assume they are. You know,

1385
01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:44.319
<v Speaker 1>we're uh role playing here. When would you guys assume

1386
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>human beings would have figured out not just that we

1387
01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>can make a floaty ball of plasma superconductive harmonic orb

1388
01:26:51.159 --> 01:26:54.119
<v Speaker 1>as I called it, how would we when would we

1389
01:26:54.199 --> 01:26:56.640
<v Speaker 1>have figured out that they combined them together and all

1390
01:26:56.680 --> 01:26:59.079
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you break the swing er limit, you know,

1391
01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>because one or the energy levels are large, extremely large?

1392
01:27:04.600 --> 01:27:08.560
<v Speaker 3>You as sorry? Are you asking about the historical timeline

1393
01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:10.359
<v Speaker 3>like in the last eighty years when you think.

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01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when do you guys think that? I mean, do

1395
01:27:12.720 --> 01:27:15.319
<v Speaker 1>you think humans have figured it out? The biggest drama

1396
01:27:15.520 --> 01:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>is this is that a lot of people in the

1397
01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:22.760
<v Speaker 1>UFO community are sure that what we're looking at those

1398
01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:27.079
<v Speaker 1>videos represents non human intelligence. Maybe, but I think that

1399
01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:30.079
<v Speaker 1>you guys would also argue that, well, humans like this

1400
01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:32.199
<v Speaker 1>goes back the math and equations go back to the

1401
01:27:32.239 --> 01:27:35.239
<v Speaker 1>early nineteen hundreds, which is a long long time ago.

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01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm so my question is a you know, what do

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01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>you think that humans have had enough time to reverse

1404
01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>engineer or figure this out by ourselves? And when do

1405
01:27:47.079 --> 01:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you think we would have taken it to the next

1406
01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>level where it's like now we're just zapping these things

1407
01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>together and proofing planes out of existence.

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01:27:54.359 --> 01:27:56.880
<v Speaker 3>If I could say very quickly in terms of the

1409
01:27:57.039 --> 01:27:59.640
<v Speaker 3>historical timeline, I don't. I'm not an expert on that.

1410
01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:02.520
<v Speaker 3>I claim to know when what happened and where. We

1411
01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:05.000
<v Speaker 3>have to keep in mind a lot of these alleged

1412
01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:08.840
<v Speaker 3>special access programs, a lot after they're completed, or the

1413
01:28:09.119 --> 01:28:13.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, compartmentalized programs are finished, they kind of get

1414
01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:17.199
<v Speaker 3>shredded and nothing gets put on record. So they do

1415
01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:20.000
<v Speaker 3>get they do get washed away to history. So as

1416
01:28:20.079 --> 01:28:23.800
<v Speaker 3>to who specifically cracked it first, I don't know. But

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01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:30.119
<v Speaker 3>what I can say to that is the look at

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01:28:30.159 --> 01:28:33.760
<v Speaker 3>what brother sal was able to do with not to

1419
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:35.720
<v Speaker 3>speak for him, but with what I believe was a

1420
01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:39.640
<v Speaker 3>four hundred thousand dollars grant from the DoD. Look at

1421
01:28:39.640 --> 01:28:42.439
<v Speaker 3>what he was able to do. Just with that, imagine

1422
01:28:42.479 --> 01:28:45.000
<v Speaker 3>if you had, you know, twenty thirty one hundred million

1423
01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:46.880
<v Speaker 3>dollars what you could do.

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01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the one thing I learned about this science

1425
01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>is that man super weapons are cheap. Like this stuff

1426
01:28:54.880 --> 01:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>is not relative how much people spend on other projects.

1427
01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:01.359
<v Speaker 1>The government's been wasting on hot fusion. We spend like nothing.

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01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, it's interesting, brother sal mentioned earlier the

1429
01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:08.399
<v Speaker 3>Vandergraft generator and that speaks to you know, particle accelerators

1430
01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:11.279
<v Speaker 3>and so on. And it's interesting when you look at

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01:29:11.279 --> 01:29:13.880
<v Speaker 3>the history. I'm not saying this in a good or

1432
01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:17.439
<v Speaker 3>bad way. If there are photos from MIT's website of

1433
01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:22.000
<v Speaker 3>doctor John Trump, donald Trump's uncle, with mister Vandergraf in

1434
01:29:22.079 --> 01:29:25.079
<v Speaker 3>the nineteen twenties or thirties looking at a big version

1435
01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:28.000
<v Speaker 3>of a vandergraph machine, we can say that a Vandergraph

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01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:31.039
<v Speaker 3>machine is an early version of what the CERN particle

1437
01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:35.279
<v Speaker 3>accelerators are. So I think you know something was understood

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01:29:35.319 --> 01:29:35.800
<v Speaker 3>back then.

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01:29:37.199 --> 01:29:40.600
<v Speaker 2>A couple of the vandigraph generator with a Tesla coil

1440
01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:44.039
<v Speaker 2>by put it this way.

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01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, yeah, yeah, what do you.

1442
01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Think about that? I mean, and do you think it

1443
01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>could be a combination of things going on as well?

1444
01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:59.439
<v Speaker 2>Then? Brother, I have a slightly different I go from

1445
01:29:59.560 --> 01:30:04.199
<v Speaker 2>books because they show people. People are especially all the

1446
01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>books or books that are no longer in print. Once

1447
01:30:08.039 --> 01:30:11.600
<v Speaker 2>upon a time we used to read read the actual books,

1448
01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:14.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, hard copy things that we used to open,

1449
01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:17.439
<v Speaker 2>and actually the leaves we would turn one by one,

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01:30:17.640 --> 01:30:23.119
<v Speaker 2>very interesting thoughts, very interesting ideas. There's one such book

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01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:28.960
<v Speaker 2>by Charles fort f Rt. It's called the Book of

1452
01:30:29.119 --> 01:30:35.000
<v Speaker 2>the Damn. The Damn d a m n ed what

1453
01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:38.640
<v Speaker 2>we're about to become. Anyway, It's called the Book of

1454
01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:44.079
<v Speaker 2>the Damn, And in chapter twelve he says something incredibly profound.

1455
01:30:44.319 --> 01:30:50.079
<v Speaker 2>He says, I think we are property in that I

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01:30:50.319 --> 01:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>believe somebody has ownership over us.

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01:30:56.600 --> 01:30:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Planet.

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01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Brother, there's so many any things we don't know. Look, man,

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01:31:03.159 --> 01:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people have been making fun of Graham Hancock.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people have been making fun of anyone

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01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:12.039
<v Speaker 2>that has tried to point us, for example, doctor Joseph

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01:31:12.119 --> 01:31:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Perrol that has been trying to point us to the

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01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:18.560
<v Speaker 2>idea of the Enuma leash, the Book of Creation, the

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01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>War among the Gods, the Tablets of Destiny. You think

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01:31:22.880 --> 01:31:27.199
<v Speaker 2>all these were just wow, mythical ideas that we just

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01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:32.039
<v Speaker 2>came How about Troy, my brother, how about Troy Schleimann

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01:31:32.239 --> 01:31:37.239
<v Speaker 2>with a copy of the Odyssey under his arm, found

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01:31:37.760 --> 01:31:42.600
<v Speaker 2>what we think is now Troy, possibly various vestiges of

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01:31:42.760 --> 01:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>what Troy is. So if you can do that with

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01:31:46.039 --> 01:31:49.279
<v Speaker 2>a book that supposedly was written by some dude called Homer,

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01:31:50.039 --> 01:31:54.680
<v Speaker 2>then how should I say, imagine what you can do

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01:31:55.079 --> 01:32:01.079
<v Speaker 2>with actual books that supposedly were written by the gods

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01:32:02.079 --> 01:32:05.760
<v Speaker 2>who were the Anu Naki, the children of heaven and Earth.

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01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:12.239
<v Speaker 2>What do we not know about our own civilization? In

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01:32:12.439 --> 01:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Graham Hancock's own words, are we a civilization with amnesia?

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01:32:17.399 --> 01:32:18.359
<v Speaker 2>I believe we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of that thought process as well.

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01:32:22.199 --> 01:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just we don't civilization doesn't go far back

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01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:27.319
<v Speaker 1>enough in my opinion for us to be as advanced

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01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:30.359
<v Speaker 1>as we have been as we are today, which I

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01:32:30.680 --> 01:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>do think there's a lot of crossover between that work

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01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:36.319
<v Speaker 1>and Joseph P. Farrell. I mean, I found a clip

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01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:40.159
<v Speaker 1>from him back in twenty fourteen, roughly a day or

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01:32:40.199 --> 01:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>a few days after the plane disappeared, and he was

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01:32:42.600 --> 01:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about the United States using a teleportation super weapon

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01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:48.439
<v Speaker 1>on the plane, which I don't think any nobody was

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01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about that except for him. I'm surprised that he

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01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>hasn't wanted to reach out and talk to me just

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01:32:52.760 --> 01:32:53.159
<v Speaker 1>because of.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Joseph P. Farrell is one of these polymphs, even

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01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:04.840
<v Speaker 2>though he has a certain degree and ah something to

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01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:08.319
<v Speaker 2>do with the original Church Fathers. I believe he is

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01:33:08.439 --> 01:33:14.239
<v Speaker 2>of the Eastern Orthodox religion. I think it was, but yeah,

1494
01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:17.039
<v Speaker 2>he was of the Protestant religion or maybe Roman Catholic

1495
01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:21.119
<v Speaker 2>at one point in time. But anyway, his his doctorate

1496
01:33:21.479 --> 01:33:27.920
<v Speaker 2>is in in in theology religious studies. The way this

1497
01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>man researches, the profundity of his work, the way that

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01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:37.399
<v Speaker 2>he has stepped into works for example by Igor Vitkovski.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about the gloca, the truth about the wound,

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01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:47.600
<v Speaker 2>among other things. All right, no need to get you demonetized,

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01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:48.760
<v Speaker 2>so I'll just leave it there.

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01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:50.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, please don't.

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01:33:50.720 --> 01:33:58.119
<v Speaker 2>I like, I love that dave about as we're talking

1504
01:33:58.119 --> 01:33:58.520
<v Speaker 2>about all.

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01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Kinds of crazy stuff. So, uh, you know, you guys

1506
01:34:03.439 --> 01:34:06.479
<v Speaker 1>think plasma was conscious? Like what do you think? You think?

1507
01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:10.279
<v Speaker 2>What is? Read The Demon in the Core. It's the

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01:34:10.439 --> 01:34:17.520
<v Speaker 2>latest book by doctor Joseph P. Farrell. Read very very

1509
01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>carefully what he has to say about Doctor Hands Alpha

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01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Nobel Prize winner for Magneto Hydrodynamics one of the greatest

1511
01:34:27.279 --> 01:34:33.039
<v Speaker 2>minds in magnetic fluid dynamics ever to exist. See what

1512
01:34:33.159 --> 01:34:37.159
<v Speaker 2>this man thought about the sensions of plasmas under certain

1513
01:34:37.600 --> 01:34:40.760
<v Speaker 2>conditions when driven far from equilibrium. See what he has

1514
01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:45.479
<v Speaker 2>to say. The very fact that this man brings about

1515
01:34:46.119 --> 01:34:52.479
<v Speaker 2>ideas from different domains is able to read his Secrets

1516
01:34:52.520 --> 01:34:57.199
<v Speaker 2>of the Unified Field. Amazing book hardly ever mentioned. See

1517
01:34:57.319 --> 01:35:00.439
<v Speaker 2>what he has to say about Gabriel Crone and all

1518
01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:03.439
<v Speaker 2>those grates that once upon a time existed on the

1519
01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:09.439
<v Speaker 2>surface of the Charles Proteus Steinmetz a giant of a man.

1520
01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:10.439
<v Speaker 1>The man.

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01:35:12.359 --> 01:35:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Was of a very small statue, but as far as intellect,

1522
01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:22.399
<v Speaker 2>this man was a giant among giants. See what Proteus

1523
01:35:22.399 --> 01:35:26.399
<v Speaker 2>Steinmanz has to say about the impulses and electric discharges.

1524
01:35:26.479 --> 01:35:33.079
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, do you think that there's a connection between hypersonic

1525
01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:37.159
<v Speaker 1>spy planes from the sixties and the seventies and balls

1526
01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>of plasma floating around now? I guess what I'm saying

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01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>is that these hypersonic planes would use a plasma sheath

1528
01:35:44.039 --> 01:35:45.319
<v Speaker 1>in front of them. As far as I can tell,

1529
01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the earliest documentation of the military using plasma to

1530
01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>achieve extremely high velocities. Do you think there is something

1531
01:35:54.880 --> 01:35:58.039
<v Speaker 1>inside of these plasma orbs or do you think they

1532
01:35:58.079 --> 01:36:02.119
<v Speaker 1>are something that's produced externally and then achieve some sort

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01:36:02.159 --> 01:36:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of equilibrium, or then there's a combination.

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01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Rather ROSSI take it. Ooh see, this is the questions.

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01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:22.640
<v Speaker 3>The questions are very good, Ashton. That's why I stay quiet. Yeah, well,

1536
01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I think I don't mean to dodge. Let me just

1537
01:36:26.960 --> 01:36:29.479
<v Speaker 3>say this. There are certain papers out there, I think

1538
01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:34.119
<v Speaker 3>from the nineteen fifties and early nineteen sixties, before before

1539
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:37.239
<v Speaker 3>he told his colleagues that he was leaving his academic

1540
01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:40.640
<v Speaker 3>community as friends behind and going into a world that

1541
01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:43.720
<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't accept because it seemed too crazy at the time.

1542
01:36:44.159 --> 01:36:47.760
<v Speaker 3>If you look at the work of what Gabriel Krone did,

1543
01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:51.720
<v Speaker 3>you'll find that there was discussion of things like the

1544
01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:55.840
<v Speaker 3>mention of negative resistance being feasible, but then in that

1545
01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:58.920
<v Speaker 3>same paper he mentions that it is but it isn't,

1546
01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:02.359
<v Speaker 3>almost as if he was forced to have to there

1547
01:37:02.439 --> 01:37:04.800
<v Speaker 3>was censorship of his work. I think that if you

1548
01:37:04.880 --> 01:37:07.560
<v Speaker 3>look at the possibility of the ether acting as a

1549
01:37:07.640 --> 01:37:11.319
<v Speaker 3>sort of negative resistor, what that would do in combination

1550
01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:16.359
<v Speaker 3>with the plasma sheath, would inhabit certain properties in phenomena

1551
01:37:16.520 --> 01:37:21.000
<v Speaker 3>that classically, as we even think now, it would expand

1552
01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:24.439
<v Speaker 3>the law of first law of conservation of energy. It

1553
01:37:24.560 --> 01:37:28.439
<v Speaker 3>would violate the second law of thermo to expand it

1554
01:37:28.520 --> 01:37:33.560
<v Speaker 3>to use the implement the quantum vacuum. I think, I

1555
01:37:33.960 --> 01:37:38.560
<v Speaker 3>forgive me because I've worked on some contracts that deal

1556
01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:40.960
<v Speaker 3>with that, so I really have to watch there. But

1557
01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:48.239
<v Speaker 3>I think that plasma sheets are very interesting. I don't

1558
01:37:48.279 --> 01:37:50.359
<v Speaker 3>mean to be vague, I'm sorry, but do.

1559
01:37:50.399 --> 01:37:52.239
<v Speaker 1>You think plasma sheets are very interesting?

1560
01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Put it this way, Let's do the fluid dynamic analogy

1561
01:37:56.800 --> 01:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>of what the Russians called the sal I believe that

1562
01:38:00.439 --> 01:38:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I do not have the correct pronunciation the whole idea

1563
01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:09.079
<v Speaker 2>of this, this super cavicating torpedo that rides within what

1564
01:38:09.239 --> 01:38:10.039
<v Speaker 2>a bubble of air?

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01:38:10.199 --> 01:38:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Right?

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01:38:10.840 --> 01:38:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, think what plasma is. It's the next state into

1567
01:38:14.560 --> 01:38:17.880
<v Speaker 2>instead of being a gas, it's a plasma. In otherwids,

1568
01:38:17.960 --> 01:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>the electrons have ionized. Why don't we think of plasma

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01:38:22.880 --> 01:38:26.720
<v Speaker 2>as a transition state transition to what transition from what

1570
01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:32.399
<v Speaker 2>we understand as three dimensional matter to quintessence, a fifth essence?

1571
01:38:32.479 --> 01:38:36.640
<v Speaker 2>What is this fifth essence? You see? Could very well

1572
01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:37.720
<v Speaker 2>be the quantum vacuum.

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01:38:39.159 --> 01:38:42.800
<v Speaker 3>I strongly agree with that. Yes, I think maybe it's

1574
01:38:42.880 --> 01:38:47.000
<v Speaker 3>possible for a better description, or not better a different perspective,

1575
01:38:47.279 --> 01:38:50.359
<v Speaker 3>it's possible there's a sort of memory in the quantum

1576
01:38:50.479 --> 01:38:56.399
<v Speaker 3>vacuum that is only observable and physically realizable when you

1577
01:38:56.800 --> 01:39:00.600
<v Speaker 3>involve plasma in that transition stage in a form of

1578
01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:05.840
<v Speaker 3>geometrical disequilibrium. From an engineering perspective.

1579
01:39:06.039 --> 01:39:09.159
<v Speaker 1>Like a Bose Ein condensate, fit somewhere into that range

1580
01:39:09.199 --> 01:39:10.359
<v Speaker 1>of sure.

1581
01:39:10.439 --> 01:39:13.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean some people have proposed, you know, there's that

1582
01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:18.920
<v Speaker 3>proposed water, some people proposed hydrogen. Some propose uh you know,

1583
01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:26.600
<v Speaker 3>ar gone Bose Einstein condensate. Yeah. Yeah, so.

1584
01:39:28.479 --> 01:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask a couple of quick questions. Go ahead and.

1585
01:39:30.640 --> 01:39:34.560
<v Speaker 2>South, just a quick one and then I'll stop. Victor

1586
01:39:34.640 --> 01:39:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Lacno's paper, page three, he describes the physical mechanism of

1587
01:39:39.359 --> 01:39:42.600
<v Speaker 2>the piece of electricity induced room temperatures for a conductor.

1588
01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Because of my great hubris, I call it the pie effect,

1589
01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:51.159
<v Speaker 2>our t SC superconductor. Anyway, you know why not? Well, yeah,

1590
01:39:52.079 --> 01:39:55.439
<v Speaker 2>so the whole idea on pastry. He basically says, we

1591
01:39:55.680 --> 01:39:58.600
<v Speaker 2>use a what an alternative magnetic field to create the

1592
01:39:58.680 --> 01:40:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Bose Einstein condensate. Once we have the condensate, we set

1593
01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:06.319
<v Speaker 2>it in motion by what a alternating current? A pulse current,

1594
01:40:07.319 --> 01:40:13.479
<v Speaker 2>that's it. Rogen Academy of Scientists, in one freaking phrase

1595
01:40:14.640 --> 01:40:18.960
<v Speaker 2>lacked the room temperature that I'm one percent sure one

1596
01:40:19.079 --> 01:40:20.520
<v Speaker 2>day that will be proven correct.

1597
01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.319
<v Speaker 3>I believe firmly that. Sorry, if I could say that

1598
01:40:23.680 --> 01:40:27.399
<v Speaker 3>the Bardon Cooper Schaeffer theory on super conductivity has a

1599
01:40:27.439 --> 01:40:31.159
<v Speaker 3>deep flaw in it, in my opinion, they don't. They

1600
01:40:31.239 --> 01:40:34.520
<v Speaker 3>don't look at what happens when you deal with uh

1601
01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:36.520
<v Speaker 3>lattice holes and those things.

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01:40:37.640 --> 01:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I read the Victor lock now the way

1603
01:40:39.960 --> 01:40:43.359
<v Speaker 1>at a high temperature superconductivity, Uh yeah, do you find

1604
01:40:43.479 --> 01:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>pulse pulses, alternating current alternating I don't.

1605
01:40:49.079 --> 01:40:50.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't mean to I don't mean to speak for

1606
01:40:50.920 --> 01:40:52.439
<v Speaker 3>sal here, but and I don't mean to say it

1607
01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:56.119
<v Speaker 3>to be uh disrespectful to your audience assion by being

1608
01:40:56.279 --> 01:41:01.439
<v Speaker 3>very vague here. But I I there's something that's right there,

1609
01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:05.279
<v Speaker 3>whether it's room temper to room temperature, superconnectivity or negative

1610
01:41:05.399 --> 01:41:09.640
<v Speaker 3>energy from an engineering perspective. There and Ashton, you know

1611
01:41:09.720 --> 01:41:12.880
<v Speaker 3>we've talked privately about this. There's something right there that

1612
01:41:13.039 --> 01:41:17.560
<v Speaker 3>people have missed it's right there, that it's it, And

1613
01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:19.640
<v Speaker 3>in a way it pisses me. It pisces me off

1614
01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:22.640
<v Speaker 3>because I know that Seal knows, and I know that

1615
01:41:22.800 --> 01:41:25.600
<v Speaker 3>we we know, but it's it's it's right there, it's

1616
01:41:25.640 --> 01:41:27.760
<v Speaker 3>been it's been done, and yeah it's yeah.

1617
01:41:27.960 --> 01:41:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Well so this brings me up to another point, which

1618
01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:36.439
<v Speaker 1>is that oftentimes I've found that one of the drawbacks

1619
01:41:36.680 --> 01:41:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of disclosure is that a lot of scientists have thought, oh,

1620
01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody's gonna figure this out. Is that I've figured this

1621
01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:46.880
<v Speaker 1>amazing thing out. Everybody's gonna come and realize it themselves

1622
01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>relatively soon, but always turns out that no, we don't

1623
01:41:52.239 --> 01:41:55.319
<v Speaker 1>and uh coming through with it. I mean, I was

1624
01:41:55.399 --> 01:42:00.560
<v Speaker 1>just reading, uh, some correspondence between and Shoulder and some

1625
01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>other people in the nineties where they're like, everyone's going

1626
01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to figure out the cold fusion is real now blah

1627
01:42:04.880 --> 01:42:09.439
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. It's thirty years later, still hasn't happened. So

1628
01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:13.680
<v Speaker 1>what I guess I want to ask you guys, is

1629
01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:20.720
<v Speaker 1>do you believe that somebody on this earth as technology

1630
01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:26.039
<v Speaker 1>that is beyond the paradigm of what humanity currently believes

1631
01:42:26.079 --> 01:42:26.720
<v Speaker 1>as possible.

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01:42:27.720 --> 01:42:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I know we do.

1633
01:42:31.319 --> 01:42:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Now why are we doing we being the United

1634
01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:42.399
<v Speaker 1>States government in this case, or intelligence communities or defense contractors.

1635
01:42:43.199 --> 01:42:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Why do you believe we are doing evil shit to

1636
01:42:47.079 --> 01:42:51.399
<v Speaker 1>keep it silent, whether that be suppression, that be quite

1637
01:42:51.439 --> 01:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>literally killing people.

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01:42:52.399 --> 01:42:55.319
<v Speaker 3>In some cases, it depends how high up the chain

1639
01:42:55.439 --> 01:42:59.079
<v Speaker 3>you want to go in this conversation. It depends how

1640
01:42:59.159 --> 01:42:59.840
<v Speaker 3>high up you want to.

1641
01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Go, because brother, remember Charles fourth all right, Book of

1642
01:43:05.800 --> 01:43:10.800
<v Speaker 2>the Damn I think we are property, brother, We're nothing

1643
01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:17.319
<v Speaker 2>more than slaves, and fear is for fucking slaves, and

1644
01:43:17.439 --> 01:43:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the way they control us is for fear.

1645
01:43:22.479 --> 01:43:24.520
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. And so somebody did ask in

1646
01:43:24.560 --> 01:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>the chat I was looking at some of the questions,

1647
01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:30.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, they wanted to know how consequential is this information? Well,

1648
01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that's one answer is that if we are quite literally

1649
01:43:35.880 --> 01:43:38.920
<v Speaker 1>slaves on a prison planet, then you could imagine that

1650
01:43:39.079 --> 01:43:41.800
<v Speaker 1>they would hide technology that would break us free from that.

1651
01:43:42.760 --> 01:43:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely that makes sense to metentia.

1652
01:43:47.119 --> 01:43:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Nihil seen it looks cognitio espotentia. Knowledge is power. You

1653
01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:57.319
<v Speaker 2>don't give the fucking shapes power because they rebel.

1654
01:43:59.439 --> 01:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

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01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:05.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think to address the overall concept here, I know,

1656
01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:08.600
<v Speaker 3>for a fact. There have been people in laboratories, whether

1657
01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:12.119
<v Speaker 3>NASA or elsewhere, that have discovered this effect on a

1658
01:44:12.199 --> 01:44:14.680
<v Speaker 3>small scale. And this is where it's become. I call

1659
01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:17.840
<v Speaker 3>more of it a mental brainwashing more than anything that

1660
01:44:17.960 --> 01:44:22.000
<v Speaker 3>has over that has sort of put a blanket, uh,

1661
01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:26.960
<v Speaker 3>psychosis on a lot of the masses. Although many people

1662
01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:29.159
<v Speaker 3>are waking up to be fair, which is beautiful to see,

1663
01:44:29.560 --> 01:44:32.760
<v Speaker 3>it's amazing. It really warms my heart. However, there have

1664
01:44:32.920 --> 01:44:36.880
<v Speaker 3>been people that have made certain discoveries where experts then

1665
01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:40.800
<v Speaker 3>come in. Those experts are also gatekeepers that of these

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01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:44.920
<v Speaker 3>type of technologies that basically gaslight them into thinking that

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01:44:45.079 --> 01:44:47.119
<v Speaker 3>what they see in the lab is not what they're

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01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:50.680
<v Speaker 3>actually seeing, and then they just label it as you know,

1669
01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:55.840
<v Speaker 3>electrostatic repulsion when it's it's not. And then they then

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01:44:55.920 --> 01:44:58.960
<v Speaker 3>they then they deprive you of the right measurement tools

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01:44:59.000 --> 01:45:03.239
<v Speaker 3>to confirm or deny that it's happened a few times.

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01:45:03.840 --> 01:45:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, hopeful, hopefully that answers the question.

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01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:10.159
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, it does so. And I guess you

1674
01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:13.079
<v Speaker 1>guys are probably somewhat familiar with the aar O. I

1675
01:45:13.159 --> 01:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>did speak to an officer that was going to ensure,

1676
01:45:17.960 --> 01:45:20.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, insured to me that the case of that

1677
01:45:20.159 --> 01:45:23.119
<v Speaker 1>mistry Simveonzero would be part of the ar's official record.

1678
01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they're gonna find or not find.

1679
01:45:26.199 --> 01:45:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I think at the end of the day, they probably

1680
01:45:27.960 --> 01:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>are not going to confirm the videos are real, but

1681
01:45:29.680 --> 01:45:31.600
<v Speaker 1>they won't be able to deny the videos are real.

1682
01:45:31.880 --> 01:45:34.479
<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think of the ARH and do

1683
01:45:34.600 --> 01:45:38.039
<v Speaker 1>you think the government will ever admit to this or

1684
01:45:38.079 --> 01:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>do you think it's going to take people like us

1685
01:45:40.359 --> 01:45:42.479
<v Speaker 1>right now talking about this. What is your opinions on

1686
01:45:42.520 --> 01:45:44.039
<v Speaker 1>what it would take for disclosure to happen.

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01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:47.800
<v Speaker 3>It's going to come through you and others, not Errow

1688
01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:51.119
<v Speaker 3>my opinion, sal what do you.

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01:45:51.159 --> 01:45:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Think the Office of Immaculate Constipation?

1690
01:45:58.840 --> 01:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Sorry I didn't catch that.

1691
01:45:59.800 --> 01:46:00.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, is it.

1692
01:46:02.199 --> 01:46:07.159
<v Speaker 2>The Office of Immaculate Constipation?

1693
01:46:08.279 --> 01:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Got it?

1694
01:46:11.079 --> 01:46:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1695
01:46:11.439 --> 01:46:14.439
<v Speaker 1>And this makes me think about the letter to Ash

1696
01:46:14.560 --> 01:46:17.119
<v Speaker 1>and Forbes, where at the end says all you can

1697
01:46:17.199 --> 01:46:19.680
<v Speaker 1>do is talk about it. You know, if somebody has

1698
01:46:19.800 --> 01:46:23.640
<v Speaker 1>this type of technology that is this powerful, they have

1699
01:46:23.800 --> 01:46:27.239
<v Speaker 1>access to, in my opinion, unlimited energy based on the

1700
01:46:27.279 --> 01:46:32.439
<v Speaker 1>conversation that we've had today, as well as manipulating space

1701
01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:36.119
<v Speaker 1>time itself, which is teleportation, and probably a lot of

1702
01:46:36.199 --> 01:46:41.479
<v Speaker 1>other really magical type effects, so they would have unlimited

1703
01:46:41.640 --> 01:46:45.920
<v Speaker 1>power compared to what we think from the public perspective today,

1704
01:46:47.479 --> 01:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>there might Do.

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01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:52.560
<v Speaker 2>You know one person that I really don't get and

1706
01:46:52.680 --> 01:46:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I've said this in the j Anderson interview on Project

1707
01:46:55.920 --> 01:46:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Unit Dan, I'll repeat it here. Richard Dolan with his

1708
01:47:00.119 --> 01:47:05.720
<v Speaker 2>idea of breakaway civilization, which doctor Joseph Ferrell followed on,

1709
01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:09.239
<v Speaker 2>and the two of them together brought upon a very

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01:47:09.520 --> 01:47:14.399
<v Speaker 2>interesting way of thinking towards the possibility of a breakaway civilization.

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01:47:14.800 --> 01:47:19.760
<v Speaker 2>It's as if after twenty seventeen, the entire history of

1712
01:47:20.640 --> 01:47:25.680
<v Speaker 2>design knowledge fucking objects has been white clean. Now we

1713
01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:28.600
<v Speaker 2>only talk about UAPs, we talk about the SOULFA and

1714
01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:33.000
<v Speaker 2>there whatnot. You know, all of a sudden, we have

1715
01:47:33.279 --> 01:47:39.560
<v Speaker 2>new faces with new histories instead of the old faces

1716
01:47:40.439 --> 01:47:41.720
<v Speaker 2>with the correct histories.

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01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, so that's this is a good thing where

1718
01:47:46.319 --> 01:47:49.039
<v Speaker 1>let's just talk some smack about the UFO community a

1719
01:47:49.079 --> 01:47:51.079
<v Speaker 1>little bit and maybe we can close after this as

1720
01:47:51.119 --> 01:47:53.479
<v Speaker 1>well as that I heard you talk about Richard Dolan,

1721
01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and I remember I was brand new to the whole community.

1722
01:47:56.560 --> 01:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>He was one of the first people that I found.

1723
01:47:58.159 --> 01:48:02.960
<v Speaker 2>The remarkable mind. He truly is a great researcher.

1724
01:48:03.119 --> 01:48:05.600
<v Speaker 1>And he was talking about the technology and the breakaway

1725
01:48:05.640 --> 01:48:10.560
<v Speaker 1>civilization concept. And now the reason why I started to

1726
01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:13.800
<v Speaker 1>interrupt there is that what I've realized is that a

1727
01:48:13.880 --> 01:48:16.159
<v Speaker 1>lot of these people are kind of connected in a

1728
01:48:16.199 --> 01:48:18.960
<v Speaker 1>little click. And the problem when you make clicks, in

1729
01:48:19.079 --> 01:48:21.560
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, is that people have a tendency of peer

1730
01:48:21.680 --> 01:48:26.560
<v Speaker 1>pressure the ash conformity experiment. So one of the narratives

1731
01:48:26.600 --> 01:48:28.239
<v Speaker 1>that I've seen, and this is why I wanted to

1732
01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:30.479
<v Speaker 1>bring up with you earlier, is that a lot of

1733
01:48:30.520 --> 01:48:32.760
<v Speaker 1>these people are pushing the idea that humans could not

1734
01:48:32.880 --> 01:48:36.039
<v Speaker 1>have under figured this technology out or understand this technology,

1735
01:48:36.079 --> 01:48:40.199
<v Speaker 1>that it's some somehow it's just beyond human comprehension, which

1736
01:48:40.199 --> 01:48:44.000
<v Speaker 1>would then rule out this idea that we've developed this technology,

1737
01:48:44.039 --> 01:48:46.279
<v Speaker 1>that we've reverse engineered it, or that there was a

1738
01:48:46.319 --> 01:48:49.880
<v Speaker 1>breakaway civilization. They say that it must be aliens that

1739
01:48:50.039 --> 01:48:52.760
<v Speaker 1>figured this out, and you see them all droning the

1740
01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:56.159
<v Speaker 1>same narrative about it. Even Loue Alzando will say, well,

1741
01:48:56.199 --> 01:48:59.239
<v Speaker 1>we have the temporal problem. But then I listened to

1742
01:48:59.319 --> 01:49:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Sow say, well, once you look at Einstein's equations from

1743
01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifteen, anybody could have figured this out. So I

1744
01:49:06.960 --> 01:49:09.079
<v Speaker 1>guess what I'm getting at is, like, what would you

1745
01:49:09.279 --> 01:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>want to tell the UFO community or what reps do

1746
01:49:11.960 --> 01:49:14.880
<v Speaker 1>you have with that community right now? On what I

1747
01:49:14.920 --> 01:49:18.600
<v Speaker 1>would consider it to be this controlled disclosure that's being

1748
01:49:18.680 --> 01:49:23.119
<v Speaker 1>pushed by a community that's in a click together, Like,

1749
01:49:23.680 --> 01:49:26.279
<v Speaker 1>what do you think, what would you tell those people?

1750
01:49:26.319 --> 01:49:29.279
<v Speaker 1>And what do we need to do to open our minds?

1751
01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:32.359
<v Speaker 1>More to the various options related to disclosure.

1752
01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Hold the fucking line, hold the fucking line. Stand by

1753
01:49:39.199 --> 01:49:45.239
<v Speaker 2>your principles, remember your history. Do not buy into these

1754
01:49:46.479 --> 01:49:52.960
<v Speaker 2>ephemeral dreams, illusions, delusions that have such a beautiful facay

1755
01:49:53.079 --> 01:49:53.399
<v Speaker 2>to them.

1756
01:49:56.800 --> 01:49:57.159
<v Speaker 1>I like it.

1757
01:49:58.720 --> 01:50:02.760
<v Speaker 3>What do you think I would say? The field right

1758
01:50:02.840 --> 01:50:07.640
<v Speaker 3>now is a shit show. You have disinformation agents. You

1759
01:50:07.800 --> 01:50:11.920
<v Speaker 3>have a few people in there telling the truth. Again

1760
01:50:12.119 --> 01:50:14.680
<v Speaker 3>relative to their field of expertise. There may be people

1761
01:50:14.760 --> 01:50:16.760
<v Speaker 3>that you know are telling the truth in one area,

1762
01:50:16.840 --> 01:50:19.319
<v Speaker 3>but in other areas they have sources that feed them

1763
01:50:19.359 --> 01:50:22.119
<v Speaker 3>things that are either wrong. We're dealing with probably the

1764
01:50:22.239 --> 01:50:28.960
<v Speaker 3>most messed up, psychological, psychologically manipulative field probably on the

1765
01:50:29.319 --> 01:50:32.159
<v Speaker 3>planet from a human perspective. I have not seen any

1766
01:50:32.239 --> 01:50:36.000
<v Speaker 3>other field that has been so infiltrated by intelligence that

1767
01:50:36.119 --> 01:50:39.479
<v Speaker 3>has been so manipulative and so deceiving and conniving as

1768
01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:45.039
<v Speaker 3>I have in the the alternative science UFO UAP field.

1769
01:50:45.239 --> 01:50:47.600
<v Speaker 3>There are very good people out there doing very good work,

1770
01:50:47.640 --> 01:50:49.439
<v Speaker 3>don't get me wrong. But there are also a lot

1771
01:50:49.479 --> 01:50:52.000
<v Speaker 3>of people that are doing things on purpose that they

1772
01:50:52.159 --> 01:50:55.520
<v Speaker 3>know is incorrect that they're spread with regards to spreading information.

1773
01:50:55.840 --> 01:50:58.119
<v Speaker 3>And then there are other people that are legitimately being

1774
01:50:58.279 --> 01:51:01.960
<v Speaker 3>used as useful idiots. So that's that's where I would

1775
01:51:02.079 --> 01:51:04.319
<v Speaker 3>leave that. I would say, try your best to go

1776
01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:07.880
<v Speaker 3>with your intuition, your own discernment. I'm not sitting here

1777
01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:10.399
<v Speaker 3>claiming I can look at the field and know everything

1778
01:51:10.439 --> 01:51:13.600
<v Speaker 3>about everybody, but I'd like to think I have a

1779
01:51:13.720 --> 01:51:16.920
<v Speaker 3>general idea of what groups are dealing with what and how,

1780
01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:21.239
<v Speaker 3>And you start it becomes tough, right because you have

1781
01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:23.199
<v Speaker 3>if you have a one group that's telling the truth

1782
01:51:23.239 --> 01:51:25.279
<v Speaker 3>about one thing, but then they have to you know,

1783
01:51:25.680 --> 01:51:27.439
<v Speaker 3>stop at a certain point and then they have to

1784
01:51:27.760 --> 01:51:31.720
<v Speaker 3>tell a lie because it overlaps with you know, American

1785
01:51:31.880 --> 01:51:35.119
<v Speaker 3>national security. It becomes a tough situation to deal with

1786
01:51:35.399 --> 01:51:39.479
<v Speaker 3>for the people hearing the information and the people providing

1787
01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:42.920
<v Speaker 3>the information. With good intent the ones that have bad intent.

1788
01:51:45.680 --> 01:51:49.840
<v Speaker 3>But now what I'm hearing is pre energy is possible.

1789
01:51:49.880 --> 01:51:52.920
<v Speaker 3>We got floaty orbs of plasma. They can probably teleport airplanes.

1790
01:51:53.039 --> 01:51:54.880
<v Speaker 3>The United's governments figured it out.

1791
01:51:55.439 --> 01:51:58.399
<v Speaker 1>And we can't really talk about it because it's adversarial

1792
01:51:58.479 --> 01:52:02.560
<v Speaker 1>issue of nash security where we're in an arms race

1793
01:52:02.640 --> 01:52:06.560
<v Speaker 1>against China and Russia. I ran in North Korea here, uh,

1794
01:52:06.720 --> 01:52:09.039
<v Speaker 1>and it comes a lot more awkward than just aliens.

1795
01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:11.319
<v Speaker 1>That's that's what I've taken away from today's conversation.

1796
01:52:12.039 --> 01:52:17.880
<v Speaker 2>So two hours, and that's why he took away. What

1797
01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:21.000
<v Speaker 2>about time, It's not the order of one divided by frequency.

1798
01:52:21.880 --> 01:52:24.760
<v Speaker 1>And when you worry, I'm going to get all the science.

1799
01:52:25.199 --> 01:52:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't forget what I said in the beginning to do

1800
01:52:28.840 --> 01:52:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the chain rule on time is on the order of

1801
01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:34.399
<v Speaker 2>one divided by frequency. And you'll see what I'm talking about.

1802
01:52:34.640 --> 01:52:37.239
<v Speaker 2>You hook that with a Minkowski a space time metric,

1803
01:52:37.319 --> 01:52:40.319
<v Speaker 2>and you'll see how these things displace and you see

1804
01:52:40.359 --> 01:52:42.840
<v Speaker 2>how that negative sign all of a sudden becomes positive.

1805
01:52:42.920 --> 01:52:46.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a beautiful thing anyway, man. I like keeping things

1806
01:52:46.960 --> 01:52:47.680
<v Speaker 2>in the positive.

1807
01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:50.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just me, you know, no one, And I think

1808
01:52:50.800 --> 01:52:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that the negative side is we're probably going to destroy

1809
01:52:53.720 --> 01:52:56.359
<v Speaker 1>ourselves with this technology. I mean, that's just how I

1810
01:52:56.479 --> 01:52:58.800
<v Speaker 1>see it. But hey, there's a chance that we might not.

1811
01:52:59.119 --> 01:53:02.520
<v Speaker 3>There's if I could leave on a positive note before

1812
01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:05.199
<v Speaker 3>I have I have to go myself and thank you

1813
01:53:05.319 --> 01:53:07.439
<v Speaker 3>so much guys for having me. This has been an honor.

1814
01:53:07.920 --> 01:53:10.960
<v Speaker 3>I will say Ashton that whenevery so often when you're

1815
01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:13.199
<v Speaker 3>doing your streams every week or every couple of days,

1816
01:53:13.439 --> 01:53:16.479
<v Speaker 3>when I tune in wherever I am, if I'm traveling

1817
01:53:16.600 --> 01:53:18.800
<v Speaker 3>or I'm at home or whatever, there's certain things I

1818
01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:22.720
<v Speaker 3>see people say in the comments, and I go, how

1819
01:53:22.800 --> 01:53:25.000
<v Speaker 3>the hell did they see that? You know, There's certain

1820
01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:27.079
<v Speaker 3>things I look and I go, my god, I go

1821
01:53:28.039 --> 01:53:30.439
<v Speaker 3>this this should maybe shouldn't be put on a live

1822
01:53:30.479 --> 01:53:32.600
<v Speaker 3>stream chat. So what I'm trying to say is you're

1823
01:53:32.760 --> 01:53:35.520
<v Speaker 3>you're you're doing good work. You're doing very good work.

1824
01:53:36.199 --> 01:53:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Yeah, I see it too. There's people in

1825
01:53:38.399 --> 01:53:41.119
<v Speaker 1>my live streams probably right now watching where I'm going.

1826
01:53:41.199 --> 01:53:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh boys, several times where I don't I don't highlight

1827
01:53:43.640 --> 01:53:45.760
<v Speaker 1>their comment because I'm like, there's so on the on

1828
01:53:45.920 --> 01:53:48.199
<v Speaker 1>the money that you know, it could actually like help

1829
01:53:48.239 --> 01:53:50.600
<v Speaker 1>out people that are our adversaries. But it's a fine

1830
01:53:50.640 --> 01:53:56.199
<v Speaker 1>line between what do we disclose safely that we aren't

1831
01:53:56.199 --> 01:53:59.680
<v Speaker 1>going to destroy ourselves versus you know, change the whole

1832
01:53:59.760 --> 01:54:02.119
<v Speaker 1>play in it forever, you know. And I think that's

1833
01:54:02.159 --> 01:54:04.439
<v Speaker 1>what makes this topic so so tough to say.

1834
01:54:04.520 --> 01:54:06.279
<v Speaker 3>If I and also if I can mention one more thing,

1835
01:54:06.399 --> 01:54:08.640
<v Speaker 3>there's a for a lot of people in this field,

1836
01:54:08.720 --> 01:54:11.000
<v Speaker 3>the ones looking into the science that you tend to

1837
01:54:11.079 --> 01:54:14.000
<v Speaker 3>attract with your audience, which is beautiful, there's a lot

1838
01:54:14.079 --> 01:54:17.119
<v Speaker 3>of I noticed, there's a there's everyone goes through their

1839
01:54:17.199 --> 01:54:20.520
<v Speaker 3>journey where they discover a certain terminology or a certain

1840
01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:25.560
<v Speaker 3>experimental concept and they don't fully understand it. And because

1841
01:54:25.600 --> 01:54:27.520
<v Speaker 3>they don't fully understand it, I don't mean this in

1842
01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:30.239
<v Speaker 3>a good or bad way, they then plaster it all

1843
01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:32.760
<v Speaker 3>over the internet. But then, you know, six months later,

1844
01:54:33.119 --> 01:54:35.880
<v Speaker 3>after they learn more about it, they remove those posts

1845
01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:39.319
<v Speaker 3>because they realize how sensitive what they said earlier was

1846
01:54:39.319 --> 01:54:42.039
<v Speaker 3>and they didn't realize that. So it's a learning journey

1847
01:54:42.760 --> 01:54:45.000
<v Speaker 3>for a lot of people when they realize, for example,

1848
01:54:45.039 --> 01:54:48.479
<v Speaker 3>we talk resonance in a cavity, that sounds harmless, but

1849
01:54:48.600 --> 01:54:51.079
<v Speaker 3>then if you go and new experiment with resonance in

1850
01:54:51.159 --> 01:54:54.319
<v Speaker 3>a cavity with maybe some more you know, engineering adjustments.

1851
01:54:54.600 --> 01:54:56.880
<v Speaker 3>You start to think, holy shit, should I even talk

1852
01:54:56.920 --> 01:54:59.920
<v Speaker 3>about resonance? So it's a it's a it's a learning

1853
01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:02.239
<v Speaker 3>journey for a lot of people. And it's very interesting

1854
01:55:02.319 --> 01:55:05.159
<v Speaker 3>to see because your platform Hash has been the most

1855
01:55:05.239 --> 01:55:07.760
<v Speaker 3>open about it, and I love it.

1856
01:55:07.800 --> 01:55:10.159
<v Speaker 1>I have plausible deniability. It's like, oh, if I accidentally

1857
01:55:10.199 --> 01:55:12.560
<v Speaker 1>give away the secret sauce, I didn't know. So that's

1858
01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:13.439
<v Speaker 1>what I love about open.

1859
01:55:13.600 --> 01:55:15.159
<v Speaker 3>You know what makes you know? What makes me laugh?

1860
01:55:15.359 --> 01:55:16.800
<v Speaker 3>You know what makes me laugh. A lot of this

1861
01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:19.119
<v Speaker 3>ship is on the web. It's just you have Yeah,

1862
01:55:19.600 --> 01:55:20.239
<v Speaker 3>that's what makes me.

1863
01:55:21.439 --> 01:55:25.640
<v Speaker 2>It's considered pseudoscience. It is so shot upon that everybody

1864
01:55:25.760 --> 01:55:29.720
<v Speaker 2>dismisses it out of hand, right speaking of something they're

1865
01:55:29.720 --> 01:55:34.359
<v Speaker 2>gonna dismiss right out of hand because remember Hawking brought

1866
01:55:34.399 --> 01:55:38.920
<v Speaker 2>to us the whole idea of chronological protection, the idea

1867
01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:45.000
<v Speaker 2>that you cannot have reverse temporal excursion. Look very carefully,

1868
01:55:45.239 --> 01:55:49.399
<v Speaker 2>I watch just just a time equals or rather yeah

1869
01:55:49.680 --> 01:55:52.680
<v Speaker 2>equals a constant. This constant has a lot to do

1870
01:55:53.119 --> 01:55:55.760
<v Speaker 2>with breaking the Shwingle limit. But I'm not going to

1871
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<v Speaker 2>go into it to it too interesting because it speaks

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<v Speaker 2>to certain thing. But what I'm about to say now,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you follow us about. They will enjoy this.

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<v Speaker 2>Given that Hawking said you you cannot go back in time,

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<v Speaker 2>how about that time? Look how simple it is. Time

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<v Speaker 2>is and the ordo one divided by frequency. Apply the

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<v Speaker 2>frame the chain rule to that you get negative delta

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<v Speaker 2>t zanti ato of uh delta omega di vita by

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<v Speaker 2>omega square. So, in other words, under certain conditions, if

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<v Speaker 2>I was to say, stay in a chamber of a

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<v Speaker 2>certain ionizing radiation given a certain frequency, so all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden dial up the frequency, Oh what might happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it speaks to a negative delta t gentlemen, reverse

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<v Speaker 2>temporal excursion.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be possible. It might be possible to engineer

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<v Speaker 3>something where you you increase, you you reverse the entropy,

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<v Speaker 3>and therefore you get phenomena that thing. In classical physics

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<v Speaker 3>has been able to explain.

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<v Speaker 2>Simple stuff resulting in a highly complex phenomenon. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>I'm arguing for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so free energy is real. Teleportations, real orbs that

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<v Speaker 1>float around freely are real. And also, by the way, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you can live forever.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you need motivation when you say when you

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<v Speaker 3>say when you say free energy, you mean coffiicient of

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<v Speaker 3>performance over one like a like a heat pump in

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<v Speaker 3>a home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, you know how I talk, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always going to be free energy and cold fusion and

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<v Speaker 1>UFOs to me. So you know, if other people want

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with other fancy terms, it's more palatable

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<v Speaker 1>for normy out there, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, you know, let me ask, let me ask you.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think it's possible to get more energy out

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<v Speaker 3>than what you put into a system.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think that they And yes, we will rewrite

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<v Speaker 1>the first and second laws, but we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>rewrite them out of necessity. We're going to rewrite them

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<v Speaker 1>out of convenience, because it's a matter of once you

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<v Speaker 1>have this energy source of our UFOs, that is our

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<v Speaker 1>zero point energy field that's all around us, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have an external energy source, you can easily get around

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<v Speaker 1>the first and second laws. The first law you get

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<v Speaker 1>around because you're constantly exchanging energy.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me if I can leave one last hint, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is very well the Miisner effect with superconductors. Nice

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<v Speaker 3>people don't realize what they're with. Respect people don't I

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<v Speaker 3>don't mean this towards your audience. I mean towards the

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<v Speaker 3>mainstream physics world. They don't realize what they're looking at.

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<v Speaker 3>When the if you have a liquid nitrogen with a

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<v Speaker 3>magnet over a superconductor, and that as long as there's

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<v Speaker 3>a constant fuel of liquid nitrogen, the magnet stays levitating.

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<v Speaker 3>What what does that mean in a thermodynamic sense? A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people, A lot of people don't realize that.

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<v Speaker 2>What what what what?

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<v Speaker 3>That's already it's violating the second law right there by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, And I'm just gonna say it, because fuck it.

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<v Speaker 3>But people don't realize that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when I look at something floating freely, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at over here on the side of the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the LK ninety nine, one of the videos

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<v Speaker 1>of the debunked superconductor. I mean, I'm looking at something

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<v Speaker 1>just levitating freely here. You know, this is a magnet

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<v Speaker 1>without it being stuck to anything. It's just not it's

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<v Speaker 1>just floating suspended.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. And this is why I love the question I

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<v Speaker 3>noticed in the comments here. I think Bob Greenier said

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<v Speaker 3>flux pinning. Yeah, right, Bob, flux pinning. But there's a component,

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<v Speaker 3>a thermodynamic component to the flux pinning that people don't

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<v Speaker 3>realize is interacting with the local vacuum between its critical

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<v Speaker 3>state and the just what's just outside of it the

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<v Speaker 3>flux there's there's there's a negative entropy component there that

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<v Speaker 3>people don't realize.

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<v Speaker 1>So just to wind it down, uh, sal what would

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<v Speaker 1>be your final positive message that you would want to

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<v Speaker 1>leave for people? And thank you very much for having

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation with me again here today. It's been great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been my pleasure. Brothers Ashton you you coming up

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<v Speaker 2>to speed brother like and by the way, hello to

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<v Speaker 2>Bob since I heard these over there. So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>we finely should have a four sum sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like you know what I mean, like a physics

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<v Speaker 2>thing these days you have to say it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so look, you you and brother Rossi. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute pleasure to engage with you on this subject.

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<v Speaker 2>I've spoken to brother Rossi a many time not to

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<v Speaker 2>use words like negentropy and other things because it rubs

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<v Speaker 2>certain people the wrong way. Now, eventually again people will

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<v Speaker 2>get used to the terminology and the ideas and so forth,

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<v Speaker 2>but not right now because they will call us pseudoscientists.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what I see. I understand what Brother Ashon

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<v Speaker 2>is saying. F the mother efforts and let's do our thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The only problem is it's the mother efforts that are

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<v Speaker 2>in proud, are in power, and they're the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>give the grants. They're the ones that dispense the favors,

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<v Speaker 2>they're the ones that give the promotions. Again, we're all slaves.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is the mofos don't recognize they slave them.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust me, it'll hit them one day. They will be

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely amazed. Anyway, Thanks Brother Ashton, it's been absolutely a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me as well. Thank you guys,

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<v Speaker 3>it's an honor. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, and I want to shoot my big thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>both Brother sal and Brother Dave for jumping on with

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<v Speaker 1>me here today. It really helped ingrain a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the scientific concepts that I've learned over the last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have been able to do any of it

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<v Speaker 1>without either of these guys that are here. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Shrew seventy X for following along. Guys, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a great interview. You guys have a great day, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be talking again.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon, Bravo, thank you,