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Carl Dahl is back. 24 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:56,000 Hey Carl, what's happening to man? 25 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: Doing great? Peek glad to be here. 26 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: I have to say one of the highlights of my 27 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:08,680 week now is your most mostly weekly streams of mostly 28 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,639 gun autism with Jay Burdens. 29 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,599 Speaker 2: It's fun, it's. 30 00:02:15,759 --> 00:02:21,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when you guys were just like like subtweeting 31 00:02:21,759 --> 00:02:25,879 me in in some of your comments this week. 32 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 2: Teasing a little. Maybe I didn't. I didn't realize we 33 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,800 were talking about you until he started leaning into the 34 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,159 HK details more and I was like, oh, I know, 35 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,960 all right, I know what I'm being pulled into here, 36 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,360 all right that. 37 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: It's perfectly fine open season on me. I'm fine with 38 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,199 it so as my friends are doing it. 39 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,719 Speaker 2: Pete a point in your favor, it means you're not 40 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:03,560 as poor as I am. So according to internet lore, right. 41 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,599 Speaker 1: Well, H and K doesn't have anything in thirty two, 42 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:12,080 so that's why uh, HK four and hkp K three. 43 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:16,199 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, but how but they haven't been made 44 00:03:16,199 --> 00:03:20,719 in forty five? Where can you find them? I know. 45 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: It's like I was just at you know, you know 46 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:26,319 I have a p seven but yeah, yeah, I was 47 00:03:26,439 --> 00:03:28,400 just at a show where someone had a P seven 48 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,000 M eight and I mean it was almost in a 49 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,319 brand new condition and everything, and I'm like, yeah, I'm 50 00:03:35,319 --> 00:03:37,319 not buying I'm not buying another one. But if it 51 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,719 would have been at thirteen? 52 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: Have you ever fired a P seven ten the forty 53 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,000 cow ITERATIONW No, that I think that's sacrilegious. But it's awful. 54 00:03:50,719 --> 00:03:53,039 It's well, let me let me put it this way. 55 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,120 The gun is still great other than you have all 56 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,840 this extra slide masks like over the bore, and it's yeah, 57 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:03,000 it's it's terrible. It's awful. 58 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the great thing about the P seven 59 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,080 is a nine to milimeter is it's very flat shooting 60 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,919 with the fixed and everything. I've the last thing you've 61 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,920 ever heard associated with the forty caliber is flat shooting. 62 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's it's like one of the snappiest cartridges 63 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,360 because it's high pressure and it's just a little too 64 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,399 much for that size of gun. 65 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: You know. 66 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: Jim Cirillo. Are you aware of Jim Cirillo? No, he 67 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:36,959 was a You should check it out. You would dig 68 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,360 Jim Cirillo being a New Yorker or I should say 69 00:04:41,399 --> 00:04:46,360 born and bred, right, he was a. He was on 70 00:04:46,399 --> 00:04:50,720 the New York steakout squad in the seventies where their 71 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,759 job was to just set up in the stores that 72 00:04:53,319 --> 00:04:57,519 blacks were robbing and you know, butchering people constantly and 73 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,560 then just shoot it out. And I think the very 74 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,560 first stakeout he did with that squad, he got in 75 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,240 a shootout. And so he he is a very He 76 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:12,399 was a very experienced gunfighter. He was also a competitive 77 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:18,439 shooter doing like what do they call that police, what's 78 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:24,160 what PPC or whatever it's that police oriented practical shooting basically, 79 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:27,759 and did most of his work with like a Model 80 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:35,399 ten thirty eight special, like loaded with like wadcutters and 81 00:05:36,319 --> 00:05:38,439 experimenting with lots of stuff, but also did a lot 82 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,800 of work with M one carbines. And his opinion was 83 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,800 that the forty Smith and Wesson needed to be in 84 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,360 the next level of guns. So he got a glock 85 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,560 twenty and got a conversion barrel to forty Smith and 86 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,480 Wesson and would shoot that out of a glock twenty 87 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,800 to make it a pleasant experience, which seems kind of 88 00:06:02,879 --> 00:06:06,839 like seems kind of crazy to the average person. But 89 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,199 you know, I don't know the point of that story 90 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,560 other than to talk about Jim Cirillo, who's awesome. 91 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: The insane part of that is I think it's ten 92 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:18,360 millimeters more flat shooting than a forty. 93 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: I agree, yeah, exactly exactly. 94 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:27,079 Speaker 1: I promise everyone this is in April, fools. You're gonna look. 95 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,920 You looked at the title. This is who we're going 96 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,439 to talk about. We just Karl and I cannot get 97 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,920 together with that talking about gun. 98 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: No, really, we can't. So we have to dive into 99 00:06:37,519 --> 00:06:41,319 the P seven, K three's and the HK four someday 100 00:06:41,439 --> 00:06:45,279 but not today is not the day? All right? 101 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, the HK four You see him on gunbrok rawl 102 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,480 it son of this? 103 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:49,959 Speaker 2: All right? All right? 104 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, all right, so Joe Kent, Yeah, man, 105 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,959 I mean that's that's pretty high profile positions to step 106 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:08,519 down and step down from due to ideological differences, wouldn't 107 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:08,839 you say? 108 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? And it also points to a trend of true 109 00:07:15,639 --> 00:07:21,240 believers who joined the Now. I can't. I can't gaze 110 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:23,439 into a crystal ball and see all the details you 111 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:30,319 have Dan but Ngina or however you say his name, Yes, 112 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:33,560 who's Italian? Wink wink? 113 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: Anyway, I mean he's Italians. 114 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: He's gone and it's like what is he? I don't know, 115 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,879 like what was his job? Actually? It was mostly like 116 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:54,040 getting some component of Maga in there, and I don't 117 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,720 think he was ever doing anything other than that. One 118 00:07:56,839 --> 00:08:01,120 great there's a great moment that you and I talked about, 119 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,160 like right at the very beginning of this administration, where 120 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:11,240 Vagina and Cash Cash app Patel were sitting there looking 121 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:15,639 like they had seen ghosts or like seen pictures of 122 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,800 them doing things they shouldn't be doing with guns pointed 123 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:27,399 at them. Anyway, it seems very different with Joe Kent, right, 124 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,879 But it also seems like an ideologue who came to 125 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:35,519 do a job, who was prevented from doing the job, 126 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,039 who bailed before the backlash against the Trump administration could 127 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:40,919 catch him up in it. 128 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: And we'll get to why I think that is. We 129 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,759 can talk about that in a bit, but I wanted 130 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:51,600 to talk about some of the things that he actually said. 131 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:59,080 And obviously a couple he refers to Israeli power over 132 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,480 the United States government a couple of times in there, 133 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,879 even going so far as to say that, you know, 134 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:09,120 Israel basically led us into the Iraq War. 135 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: Yes, which was huge. Yeah, so all the wars that 136 00:09:14,799 --> 00:09:20,240 he participated in were fake wars. The war that killed 137 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,120 his wife was a fake war, you know, caused by 138 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,840 caused by Israel. Big stuff. 139 00:09:29,919 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and especially if you understand what was 140 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,200 going on in Syria and how now you're you're siding 141 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,360 with the people who you were fighting against, not just 142 00:09:40,799 --> 00:09:46,279 you know, not too long before. And if you understand greater, 143 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,039 the Greater Israel project, you have an understanding as to 144 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,080 why you would you kept seeing redirection after redirection. Yes, 145 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,600 they even called one, they even called one of it 146 00:09:58,639 --> 00:10:00,360 one of the moves, the. 147 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:07,879 Speaker 2: Direction, yes. Yeah. And the the interesting thing also is 148 00:10:07,919 --> 00:10:15,039 that continue his experience forces him to or compels him, 149 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:19,639 I should say, to continue to speak about the serious 150 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,519 situation which people forget about all the time. He talked 151 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,399 in a very detailed way. Almost I was almost surprised 152 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,440 where he essentially said, you know, Iran was fighting against ISIS, 153 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,960 And I mean, I wonder how many people that didn't 154 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,480 know that caught that and are and it blows their 155 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:42,879 mind that, you know, because for a long time we 156 00:10:42,879 --> 00:10:47,480 were supporting ISIS, you know, through back channels, and then 157 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:50,159 then we ended up actually fighting them when it was 158 00:10:50,159 --> 00:10:53,639 pretty much over already but Iran had been fighting them. 159 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,159 And the reason he pointed that out obviously is one 160 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,600 it's true, but also to get you know, people's minds 161 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,919 working about what the situation actually is in the Middle 162 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:12,480 East and that you know, Iran was fighting against The 163 00:11:12,519 --> 00:11:16,159 main thing is Iran fights against whoever comes against them, 164 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:23,320 and in that case it's you know, Israel and their proxies, 165 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:25,519 and a lot of times the United States is an 166 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:32,039 Israeli proxy. And just him keeping keeping that point being 167 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,120 something that he was continually bringing up, you know, in 168 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:39,200 a in an appropriate fashion that wouldn't blow people's minds, 169 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,639 but yeah, just just staggering stuff to see from a 170 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,200 mainstream figure. 171 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,039 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, he clearly says that this was done, 172 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,399 that the Saran attack was done for Israel, was done 173 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,240 for Israel. I mean sure, Ever since this happened and 174 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,399 what we going on seventeen days, sixteen day, eighteen day, 175 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,919 you've already heard alternate theories about how this was is 176 00:12:10,919 --> 00:12:19,360 about China. This is about taking control, wrestling control away 177 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,159 from oil production, going through the straight o Horn moves 178 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,679 and sending it somewhere else. 179 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: So all the. 180 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: Cope, Yeah, you know that people are people have bought 181 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:34,159 into whether they're doing it out of some kind of 182 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:40,360 misplaced loyalty or they're getting paid to but he clearly 183 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,240 says that. 184 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,399 Speaker 2: Well, okay, So I don't remember. 185 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: If he laid this out in the Tucker interview, but 186 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,000 he did an interview Scott Horton dropped an interview with 187 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,759 him today which you heard happen yet, yes, which I 188 00:12:55,799 --> 00:13:03,600 heard you haven't, And he says that he's of the 189 00:13:03,639 --> 00:13:11,879 opinion that Israel took out Komane because they knew Komane 190 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:13,879 was anti nuke. 191 00:13:14,519 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: Yes, you want. 192 00:13:15,159 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: Nukes, had said over and over again, we don't want nukes. 193 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,120 If he enriched any uranium, it was just as a 194 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,000 bargaining chip. 195 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,799 Speaker 2: And he says. 196 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,799 Speaker 1: Israel took him out knowing that he would be replaced 197 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:33,919 by somebody who wasn't anti nuke. Thereby he can get 198 00:13:34,159 --> 00:13:37,360 Thereby you have to fight the regime change war that 199 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:38,440 Israel wants. 200 00:13:38,759 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he alluded to that with Tucker, but not in 201 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,759 quite as much detail. I think, more in a roundabout way. 202 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,799 So it sounds like he kind of refined his talking 203 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,919 point and made it a little more focused in the meantime. 204 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,840 But yeah, it's it's so obvious and to hear him 205 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:03,559 explain it is fantas now. It also puts the other 206 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,559 people in the administration in a tough spot, especially like 207 00:14:07,879 --> 00:14:12,759 Tulsi Gabbard, who you know, is obviously aligned with him, 208 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,240 who probably thinks that she can do something. But you know, 209 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,360 Joe Kent was essentially powerless to do what he wanted 210 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,480 to do, you know, other than just doing exactly what 211 00:14:26,559 --> 00:14:29,159 he was told, which he wasn't. He wasn't there to 212 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,960 just be a lap dog, which is great. So I mean, 213 00:14:34,639 --> 00:14:42,120 what I find astonishing is that the Israelis and Marco 214 00:14:42,279 --> 00:14:47,960 Rubio explained this already, and then someone else with Rubio 215 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:49,879 explained I'm trying to think of who that was, but 216 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:53,480 Mike Johnson, Yes, thank you, Mike Johnson. They just told 217 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:56,759 us exactly what it was like without even thinking about 218 00:14:56,799 --> 00:15:02,399 it immediately. And Trump essentially did the same thing too. 219 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,879 He was like, well, they were going to go, so 220 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:07,879 we had to go. And so for them to pivot 221 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,480 two weeks in is hilarious. And try to, again, to 222 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:15,159 your point, find all these copes, and it's like if 223 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,320 those copes were real and they were part of a 224 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,799 strategic calculus, as if there's a strategic calculus. It was 225 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,399 obviously a panicked reaction because they were going to go 226 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,879 for it anyway. You know, they were just completely behind 227 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:32,559 the eight ball these copes. We would have had these 228 00:15:32,559 --> 00:15:34,879 copes be part of the official story a long time ago, 229 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,120 like if they were going to seed the ground. I 230 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:44,279 almost feel like it was deliberate and people, you know, 231 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,879 you and I are old enough that we don't think 232 00:15:47,919 --> 00:15:51,080 super highly of Marco Rubio, right, I think that's fair 233 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:58,399 for me to say, but we both knew that Rubio 234 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,879 is the guy if you're a pivot to the Western hemisphere. Yes, 235 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,159 he has a history of being an obsequious lapdog of 236 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,360 the neocons, but that's not his interest. His interest isn't 237 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:14,080 the Middle East, Like he doesn't give a fuck. He 238 00:16:14,159 --> 00:16:17,840 wants to focus on the Western hemisphere that he's obsessed with. 239 00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:24,039 And so, you know, that seemed like the move and 240 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,240 for him to just come right out and tell everyone 241 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:30,440 that we did it because of our masters in you know, 242 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:34,159 a Middle Eastern democracy we're going, and so we had 243 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:36,799 to do it too so that we didn't get caught 244 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,519 on our back foot. Like that's crazy, And it feels 245 00:16:40,559 --> 00:16:46,759 like to me, you know, it feels deliberate on his part, 246 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:51,960 whether or not it was like a strategy in the 247 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,080 way that like Joe Kent's tell all is right, like 248 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,240 a political calculus. 249 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: Well, I can't get past the fact that he's basically 250 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,920 owned by Larry Ellison. He's brought up in politics by 251 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:14,079 Zionist Jews. So yeah, I mean, there could be more there. 252 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,079 There's always more there. They're always scheming and looking at 253 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,039 other places. I just think that this Iran thing, you know, 254 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:27,240 being the seventh on the Wesley Clark list is kind 255 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,240 of hard to avoid right now because if they're looking 256 00:17:31,279 --> 00:17:34,920 at regime change, I mean we're not talking we're not 257 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,759 talking about like in and out, and we're not talking 258 00:17:38,759 --> 00:17:42,319 about a seventeen day war. We're talking about something that's 259 00:17:42,319 --> 00:17:46,160 going to take a very long time. Because the topography 260 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,880 of Iran is even worse than what people keep always 261 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:55,160 compare everything to Vietnam. Yeah, yeah, much worse. 262 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: Much worse. Yeah, Because Vietnam is essentially a coastal point 263 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,799 that goes into foothills and then a mountain chain that's 264 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:11,319 the border for most of the country, whereas Iran is 265 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:18,039 just like rows of mountain walls essentially. And here's the thing, Pete. 266 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:23,039 I don't think that the US has any intent to 267 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:28,039 invade Iran, and I keep saying that, nor do I 268 00:18:28,039 --> 00:18:31,839 think it's possible at this point in time. You certainly 269 00:18:31,839 --> 00:18:35,400 can't use the Gulf States. That's what's being demonstrated right 270 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:40,920 now is you can't have US forces within range of 271 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:47,559 Iranian missiles. And anyone, any country who hosts US forces 272 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:51,000 for a ground invasion of Iran is going to get flattened. 273 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:57,279 They're going to lose their oil production, and they're going 274 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:03,079 to have their leadership get calibrated. So you know, the 275 00:19:05,079 --> 00:19:11,519 Jews didn't think carefully about this one. They jumped. And 276 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:17,880 something I said with Stormy and Dee in the most 277 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:23,599 recent inquisition is they didn't take the time to rebuild 278 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:29,599 social capital with white men by giving them things to 279 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,559 get them on board. The people who are on board 280 00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:35,759 with this war. Yeah, you had a little bump in 281 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,200 recruiting of white men at the very beginning of the 282 00:19:40,279 --> 00:19:45,039 Trump administration. I don't believe it has persisted, and I 283 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:50,319 don't believe anyone left really cares about this. They certainly 284 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,960 couldn't do a draft. That would be a disaster for them. 285 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:59,200 It would probably spark US civil war among other things, 286 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:06,599 and they just didn't they didn't rebuild the military sufficiently 287 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,559 to sustain this or do a ground invasion. You know, 288 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:16,839 there's talk of this, you know, marine corps, you know, 289 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,839 invasion of an island or whatever. What is accomplished by that, 290 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,680 I don't know, other than creating more targets to get blasted. 291 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: I just especially when you consider that ninety percent of 292 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,200 Iranian oil goes through there. 293 00:20:33,759 --> 00:20:39,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So you know, what we've essentially determined 294 00:20:39,839 --> 00:20:44,119 is that Iran determines if oil flows are not and 295 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:52,839 you know, they the what's in everyone's best interest other 296 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,519 than and even like the regular person in Israel, and 297 00:20:57,599 --> 00:20:59,640 I know someone out there is going to be like 298 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:06,920 they're are racial enemy down down to the last man, 299 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:13,200 woman and child, and it's like, look, you get Internet 300 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:20,480 points certainly. However, like in reality, the people getting blown 301 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:25,359 up and not having power and running water in Israel 302 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:30,119 right now aren't enjoying that, and they're realizing that their 303 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:37,279 political leadership created this situation. And so it doesn't matter 304 00:21:37,319 --> 00:21:41,599 how rabid the average you know person is or isn't, 305 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:48,519 when when they start having to pay, you know, personally, 306 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,920 people get really unenthusiastic about it, and that's why they're 307 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,000 running for the borders and that's why they're trying to 308 00:21:56,039 --> 00:21:59,240 fly out, but the airport keeps getting shut down. That's 309 00:21:59,279 --> 00:22:03,440 why all the private jets left. You know, it's it's 310 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:06,480 not it's not going to be something they're going to 311 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:12,000 be happy about soon. And you know, they haven't exactly 312 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:16,799 had a stable political situation over there. The people who 313 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,400 are just think that there's like one cabal, right, there's 314 00:22:21,519 --> 00:22:27,680 that there's one orientation, ignore the fact that there is 315 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:33,799 significant political strife in Israel and it will only worsen 316 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,839 for them at this point, especially because the US cannot 317 00:22:38,839 --> 00:22:44,799 sustain what we're doing and it's not worth it, and 318 00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:47,160 no one, no one wants it. No one in our 319 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:52,200 leadership wants this to continue. Like they're extremely unenthusiastic about it. 320 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:58,240 So it's it's just a it's a disaster for everyone 321 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:01,920 who felt that it needed to be done and made 322 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,599 it happen. And the best thing for us to do 323 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:10,279 is to just you know, basically say hoorayh, you know, 324 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:14,680 that was great, everything's fine, we accomplished our objectives and leave. 325 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,720 But I mean, obviously we didn't accomplish anything. It's a 326 00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:23,319 it's a it's a big joke. Did you see did 327 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:27,839 you see that Saudi Arabia try to get Pakistan, who 328 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:32,720 they have a joint defense agreement with to to scramble 329 00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:37,359 against Iran and Pakistan was like yeah, right, and they 330 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:40,640 everybody give us all our money back, give us six 331 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,279 point three billion dollars back. Yeah. Everyone everyone is like, 332 00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:47,599 forget this man, it's a disaster. 333 00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just I mean, well, look, there are plenty 334 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,039 of opinions out there. There's other things I wanted to 335 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:03,720 bring up. Okay, let's get away from some of the 336 00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:06,799 things that he said that. I will have notes here, 337 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,000 I'll bring them up. But I wanted to ask you 338 00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:16,039 this question. Does this in your mind when you see 339 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,839 that the director of the National Country Terrorism Center retires 340 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:26,400 because he can't do anything? What does this do to 341 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,759 the people who say, well, just get in there infiltrate 342 00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:31,599 and you can make you can change it, You can 343 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,759 change the system. 344 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, no it I think I think the most important 345 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,799 lesson from this is that you can't take over a 346 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:51,920 system that is sufficiently robust that you don't have overwhelming 347 00:24:54,480 --> 00:25:00,559 numbers to push out your enemies. You just can't do it. 348 00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:04,279 You have to purge everyone. And the biggest problem with 349 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:12,000 the Trump administration is that his coalition basically empowered him 350 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,759 to get back into power after October seventh. I mean, 351 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:20,200 it's obvious. That doesn't mean it's completely Jewish, of course 352 00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:23,200 not because it's a coalition, and it doesn't mean it's 353 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,640 completely Zionist in orientation. It's a coalition. There are a 354 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,119 bunch of different groups who came together and we've seen them, 355 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:39,279 we know which ones they are. And you know, if enough, 356 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,680 if enough Zogglings are in there, you can't do shit. 357 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,119 If you can't talk to the president without going through 358 00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:57,200 you know, a Zog operative, it's pointless. So yeah, you know, 359 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:04,240 I think having people in so that you have some 360 00:26:05,079 --> 00:26:09,279 connection to state operations is one thing, But it doesn't 361 00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:11,440 mean that they're going to have power. It means that 362 00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:14,480 like in a certain type of crisis or a certain 363 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:19,480 kind of shift, you'll have some information, right, But that 364 00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:23,880 doesn't that doesn't get you anything unless you have sufficient 365 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:30,160 weight behind you. Now, if let's let's put it, let's 366 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,680 bring it back to something that that people think about Pete, 367 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:37,440 that we've talked about about quite a bit, which is 368 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:41,400 like in in the United in the United States, if 369 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,799 we were heading into a Spanish Civil war type situation 370 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,799 in the United States, even if it was just like 371 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,559 mostly a regional thing or dealing with certain states, do 372 00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:58,640 you want people in the federal government who are your friends? Yes, 373 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:07,319 what kind of jobs to me? More internal facing? But 374 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,279 again that comes back to the point like are you 375 00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:11,599 going to be able to accomplish anything? You know, Charles 376 00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:18,559 Spadeel was, you know, he's he's shared his experience with that. 377 00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:22,319 There's other people that are able to get things done 378 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:25,640 because of the kind of job that they have, which 379 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:32,680 is oriented towards a specific, specific task that allows them 380 00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:35,519 to do things that need to be done that they 381 00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:39,880 agree with. But you know, you're stuck with the system 382 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:48,559 that you're stuck with. Except in those crisis situations, the 383 00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:55,200 bureaucracy has its tendencies, but the bureaucracy is weak, and 384 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,799 if you can leapfrog them, or if you are a 385 00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:02,039 man of steel, you can, you know, deal with certain situations, 386 00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:04,319 But in day to day operations, you can't do that. 387 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,000 You can't march into an office and be like you're 388 00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:11,240 under arrest, you know, or I shoot you you can't 389 00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:14,440 you can do that in a coup. Not that I 390 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:20,160 recommend coups and I disavow coups, but you know, in 391 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,640 your day to day you certainly can't do that. So 392 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:30,799 it's it's much trickier and much more frustrating than than 393 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:37,640 you know, fantasy scenarios. So the. 394 00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:43,119 Speaker 1: Just getting back more towards I think we both agree 395 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,160 that the Kent resignation, the letter and everything he's been 396 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,960 saying on what he said on Sucker at least from 397 00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:52,559 what you what you heard and what I heard on 398 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:56,839 Scott Wharton today is is that he just he believes 399 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:03,119 that Israel holds all the cards and they basically wag 400 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,079 they wag the dog. 401 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:04,799 Speaker 2: Yes. 402 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,079 Speaker 1: And I think at this point, like anyone who's saying otherwise, 403 00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:17,359 like I heard a really lispy, faggot sounding dude, you know, 404 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:23,200 talking about America's history of of colonization and this and 405 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,880 that and how they treated the Indians and you know, 406 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,480 and that's how you know that they control Israel because 407 00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:35,200 they It's like, of course, that's you're that's assuming the 408 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,680 same people are in charge and have the same exact 409 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,920 motivations from back then, and that's just not true. 410 00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:50,279 Speaker 2: So, oh yeah, it's it's just the the propaganda. There's 411 00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:51,880 always going to be you know, you and I have 412 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,640 talked about this a lot, where different people play different roles, 413 00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,119 and you know, you've had guests on who explained this 414 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,640 as well, that you know, they they never go as 415 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,039 hard as some people that they hope others will get to, 416 00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:12,359 right who will move the people will move past them 417 00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:17,559 to the edgier stuff that but in terms of the 418 00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:22,359 sandbox that they play in, they play in more moderate angles. 419 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:27,960 And we have to consider that enemy propagandists do the 420 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,839 same thing, right like that that that is one, it's nonsense, 421 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,519 but it appeals to a certain specific mentality, uh, to 422 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:44,519 cover for Israel and for you know, the Israeli lobby 423 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:48,759 in the United States. And uh, it's you know, that 424 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:56,039 was the what's his name? That was the Chomsky angle 425 00:30:56,319 --> 00:31:00,920 is that he always claimed that Israel, as you know, 426 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,839 a satellite of the United States and did the United 427 00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:09,039 States bidding, which is hilarious, but of course he would right. 428 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,119 Speaker 1: Well, I mean if that's and what I've always said 429 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,839 to people like that, well, if I want to admit 430 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,680 that's true, I'm also going to have to admit that 431 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,240 the United States has been under occupations. So yes, I mean, 432 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,839 how do you even divorce us from Israel? 433 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:33,039 Speaker 2: Exactly? Exactly you Every major event in American history since 434 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:45,119 probably about nineteen thirteen, ten thirteen, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, 435 00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:50,039 the first quarter of the twentieth century is tied at 436 00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:56,119 the hip to some sort of operations specifically for them. 437 00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:01,559 And when you know the people who there's this like 438 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,200 libertarian tendency too, you know, you know, one of one 439 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,519 of the things I've said, and and I mean I 440 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,880 mean this in good faith. Like you know, you and 441 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,880 I are both former Libertarians, and we have a we 442 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,079 both have like deep understandings. Yours is much deeper, frankly, 443 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,480 but we have deep understandings of like the ideological background 444 00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:25,920 and the you know, the books and the thought processes 445 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,160 and the economic theory and all the things. Right, and 446 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,440 the average person who is uh, who kind of like 447 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:42,440 subscribes to those, you know, that that belief system, we 448 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,759 can call it, that cope system, uh, has a really 449 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:53,000 shallow understanding of those things, but like it sounds right 450 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:56,000 to them and a lot of the time. And it 451 00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:57,960 took me a while to figure this out myself, and 452 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,720 I think I've we've talked about this before, but for myself, 453 00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:05,240 I realized that it was a cope because that way 454 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,599 I could kind of be above it all and be like, well, 455 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,880 I'm powerless, but by you know, claiming that I have 456 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,680 this ideological reason to like, I can be above it 457 00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:22,039 all and be like, you know, oh, it's a disaster, 458 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,960 and I have this like pure land libertarianism in my 459 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,279 mind that you know, is untouched by this that that's 460 00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:34,640 like my ideal. And it's like, well, politics are about 461 00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:38,480 the dealing with the real world, not ideals, and you 462 00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:45,720 should be motivated by your you know, your beliefs, your faith, 463 00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:52,400 which is incredibly important, and then you're the ideology that 464 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,839 you have should be based on reality. And so you know, 465 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:05,279 most people are they're they're ideological understanding is just it's 466 00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:11,960 literally a control mechanism to neutralize them, uh with with copes. 467 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,960 And it's like there's libtarded ones, there's conservatid ones. You know, 468 00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:21,599 there's there's all these arrays of things that don't aren't 469 00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:24,840 really relevant to the modern day. And the nice thing 470 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,960 about now is that when you see that sort of 471 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,639 stuff crop up in the you know, in debate, it's 472 00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,960 like it's obvious bullshit. Like it's sometimes it's just an 473 00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:42,320 idiot who's commenting and has no business commenting, so you 474 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,880 just ignore them. But if it's being promoted, it's just 475 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:48,639 obvious bullshit, and so you can just say, ah, there's 476 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:54,079 another example of where ideology is cope. Ideology is a spook. 477 00:34:55,519 --> 00:35:01,239 It's it's it's really quite staggering how many of these old, 478 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,760 this old momentic mimetic poison that has seeped into our 479 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,559 minds when we when we look for something outside of 480 00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:16,360 the mainstream, you still deal with all all these ideas 481 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,000 that you pick up, whether it's through music, whether it's 482 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,280 through counter culture. Uh. And and a lot of the 483 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,760 ideas that we absorbed from the internet, uh, you know 484 00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:32,239 when casting about you know, whether it's you know, the 485 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,559 the first of rock War, you know, early Gwatt, when 486 00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:39,000 you're like, oh, you know, I I really don't like 487 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:41,960 these things, Well there are these like here are these 488 00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:46,719 buckets that you know of buckets of ideas that you 489 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,960 can if you engage with and whichever one like seems 490 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,679 to appeal to you, you'll kind of dig into that one. 491 00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:57,599 And a lot of it is because it reinforces, you know, 492 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,960 pre existing ideas that you have, not that it has 493 00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:05,800 explanatory power. And so as the explanatory power of those 494 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,599 things has faded in the last couple decades, like, not 495 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,320 only do we have to shift and stay positive frankly 496 00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:19,960 and and and look for good things, but we also 497 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:26,280 have to be sure to aggressively expunge those ideas out 498 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,920 of our minds because we still carry a lot of 499 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,239 that cope. There's a lot of there's a lot of 500 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,800 and you know, it sounds like I've been rambling, but 501 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,960 if you go back to the early twentieth century and 502 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,320 you look at you know, Monster from Jeckyll Island for example, 503 00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:48,599 there's uh, you know, there's some really bad takes that 504 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,519 explain what happened there. It's, oh, it's just about money 505 00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:56,280 and powerful people, and you know, the businessman's plot was 506 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,519 bad capitalists trying to be fascist, and there's all this 507 00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:06,760 this really poisonous stuff that when you really look at it, 508 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,239 you're like, oh, it's Jews, you know, and and and 509 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,880 it's this it's this consistent thing and you and it's 510 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,599 really easy to say, oh, well, by having all the 511 00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:22,280 money go through this system that you know, not only 512 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,159 it makes us poorer, but it makes us more dependent 513 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,679 on this system that they can extract money out of 514 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,760 and then automatically have that much more power over things. 515 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,599 And you know, oh, well, you have to think about 516 00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:40,960 the impact of the economy and the you know, the casino. 517 00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:45,000 Got to have your money in the casino, and you 518 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,119 don't want to lose all your money that's in the 519 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:50,400 casino if we do, if we do a politics that 520 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,000 we don't approve of, it's all this crazy shit and 521 00:37:55,519 --> 00:37:58,960 you know that we're just we're seeing them come up 522 00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:01,599 and it's our job to smack them down. 523 00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when you're ideological or when you only when 524 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:16,079 you're only looking at one thing. So you know, you're, oh, 525 00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:19,159 if we can just fix the economics, the economics will 526 00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:24,440 take care of everything. It's like, okay, sure, explain the 527 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,199 economics to me how to get that way? Who's in 528 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,320 charge of the economics? Who does so we're not worried 529 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,239 about the who? You know, we just well, that's because 530 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,440 you don't have any answers. 531 00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 2: You're not. 532 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,039 Speaker 1: You're just basically wish casting when you talk about it, 533 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:43,719 exactly until you start naming and saying, okay, this is 534 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,840 who's doing it. You know, if if you if your 535 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,239 country is being invaded, the first thing you want to 536 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,639 know is who it is, Yes, because you know there 537 00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:56,800 if it's one group, they fight differently than another group. 538 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean, it's just all right. 539 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the fact that he brought up 540 00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:10,840 in the in the Tucker interview Butler and the Charlie 541 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:19,239 Kirk assassination. And he he very explicitly put those two 542 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,239 together in the same box and say they relate to 543 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:29,599 each other. And he implies, or not really implies. He 544 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,519 pretty much says that he thinks that Trump is scared, 545 00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,599 that he's been threatened and his family may have been threatened, 546 00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:42,760 and that's why everything he's doing is against what he 547 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:48,159 ran on. But I mean, you know, I have arguments 548 00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:50,760 with that too, because. 549 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,199 Speaker 2: Maybe he always. 550 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: He's always been around these people. 551 00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: His whole life. 552 00:39:57,039 --> 00:40:02,639 Speaker 1: So I think that that was probably the most shocked. Well, 553 00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:07,000 there's another shocking thing he said with Scott Wharton he met. 554 00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:09,480 He started talking a little bit about it with Talker, 555 00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:11,199 but he went harder with Scott Horton. But I'm gonna 556 00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:13,599 save that till the end because that takes me to 557 00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:16,639 another place, But what was what was your reaction when 558 00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:21,599 you start to hear him explicitly talking about Butler and and. 559 00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:25,519 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirr, Well, I think that, you know, the the 560 00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:28,639 hard thing that we've had in the discourse around those 561 00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:33,960 topics is that there was no investigation, no real investigation, 562 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:41,679 like the investigation stopped, you know, under the very top level. 563 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,920 And you and I think we all know we're not 564 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,119 never going to get certain kinds of information like it was. 565 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,159 It was deliberately excluded. You know, other people have researched 566 00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:59,599 these things, and there's a lot of really interesting stuff 567 00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:03,280 that they find, and some of it sounds more delusional, 568 00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:11,239 but basically, you know, yeah, the surface level simple explanation 569 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:19,679 can be true, but there's enough corroborating, you know, there 570 00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:24,400 are enough layers that are obviously that warrant a look. 571 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,280 And when they just say no, no, no, no, like 572 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,559 the official explanation is no no, it doesn't actually warrant 573 00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:34,480 a look. It's like, of course people are going to 574 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,800 dig into that stuff. Like I saw something today that 575 00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:41,559 as it relates to Charlie Kirk because I tried not 576 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,119 it was so dark, I just tried not to pay 577 00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:47,519 much attention to it for a long time. That to 578 00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:54,760 me is like pretty persuasive about a slightly alternative explanation. 579 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,039 Speaker 1: You want to talk about it now, or you want 580 00:41:57,039 --> 00:41:58,440 to talk about it off. 581 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 2: The air, off the off there, because I don't. I 582 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,039 don't have enough information. I literally just saw it Woe 583 00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:14,239 posted it, and I was like, huh, and it warrants 584 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:20,480 investigation on my part before I can come to any conclusions. 585 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,199 But anyway, the point being is is it completely changes 586 00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:29,840 the narrative because you can have you can have multiple 587 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:36,519 things happen at once, right, Like the Patsy is actually there, 588 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:42,679 the Patsy you know, isn't created from whole cloth. Usually 589 00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:49,079 you usually don't need to do that, right, So that 590 00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:52,880 and just the lack of just the narrative that like 591 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,119 you can't investigate it or it's an ongoing investigation and 592 00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:01,199 so you can't say anything. It's pretty lame. And of 593 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,920 course it encourages people who are retarded to come up 594 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:11,280 with retarded explanations for things. Of course it does. But 595 00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:14,440 you have to let it play out and if and 596 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,159 if there's no real investigation, if the uh, the counter 597 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:27,199 terrorism hauncho isn't allowed to uh look at information related 598 00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:30,599 to something that tells me, that tells me that he's 599 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,559 being kept away from it for a reason. 600 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:40,599 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well, I while you were talking, I of 601 00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:45,920 course went to Woe's account and now that's I'm not 602 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,480 gonna be able to stop thinking about that. 603 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 2: I know it's terrible, Yeah, but I mean, the whole 604 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,320 thing is so terrible when you think about it. 605 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: Look, I got reports today that is was telling people 606 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,559 in Lebanon to leave their houses and then they're blowing 607 00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:09,119 up buildings. And the shocking part to me for that 608 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,880 was that they were telling people to leave their house. 609 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, yep. 610 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,559 Speaker 1: So yeah, we've seen what they believe about civilians. 611 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 2: So when I look at that, I'm, uh, yeah. But the. 612 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: You mentioned, you know, the just how kooky everything can get, 613 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,760 and it seems like that that's the new propaganda. If 614 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,440 you can't come, if you can't change people's minds with propaganda, 615 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:35,679 then you have to. 616 00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:38,039 Speaker 2: Flood the zone with misinformation. Yes, yep. 617 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: And you see a lot of that, you know, and 618 00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:43,239 it's you know, and hey, every once in a while 619 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,480 I'll talk about it, I'll bring something up that's obviously false. 620 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,480 Most of the time, I know it's false. I just 621 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,000 bring it up because it sounds fun, especially on a 622 00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:56,360 live stream, but the I just pretty much don't believe 623 00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,440 anything anymore. And yeah, I think that most people have 624 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,199 gotten to the point where I am like, you know, 625 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,079 they're talking about this huge false flag, you know, a bomb, 626 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,159 you know, a nuke going off in a United States city, 627 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,320 blaming it down in Iran. And I mean, I think 628 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,320 at that point, half the population it's like, it's not 629 00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:17,800 that that wasn't Iran, that was Israel. 630 00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: At this point, yeah, you know, and exactly and I 631 00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:25,039 and I would say a plurality of people in America 632 00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:27,719 would make that assumption as well if anything happened. 633 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't. It seems like what Here's the thing 634 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,559 to me is is that you know, I've really been 635 00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:44,360 paying attention since October seventh. I was immediately talking about 636 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,039 how this was this was a turning point, just like 637 00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:51,599 nine to eleven, just like the housing crisis, just like COVID. 638 00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:55,920 This is just another thing. Yeah, Charlie Kirk's assassination was 639 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,079 another one. And I think, you know, the beginning of 640 00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:03,079 this war, this this takes us. Unless they get out 641 00:46:03,079 --> 00:46:07,719 of this immediately, then you know, this is where we're 642 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,159 this is where we're at. This is going to be 643 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,960 just another one of these turning points. And I mean 644 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,000 I have people contact me who are in our bubble 645 00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:23,079 and they're like, I talk to normies and within five 646 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,559 minutes they're you know, so what do you think about you. 647 00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,599 Speaker 2: Know, what the Jews are doing? Yeah, And. 648 00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: For those who you believe in elite theory, that there's 649 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,920 always a small group that's pushing. I mean, if you 650 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,559 if you don't, if you believe that Israel controls the 651 00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:45,920 United States, you believe in elite theory, Okay. 652 00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 2: Just yeah, exactly, Yes, there is truth to it. 653 00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:51,519 Speaker 1: But also one thing that I know from my history 654 00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:54,039 and my reading, and anyone who's followed two hundred years 655 00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:59,039 together can figure this out. In many other cases in history, 656 00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:03,159 whether it's you know, like whatever it is, most of 657 00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:05,880 the time the common people don't even know what's going on. 658 00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:07,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 659 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,639 Speaker 1: But when but when when they push? When this group 660 00:47:11,679 --> 00:47:17,880 pushes too far, the peasants always the peasants always know, oh, 661 00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:25,079 in insane amount of numbers, and I they have to 662 00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:27,320 know that's not good for them. So why why are 663 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,800 they put what? Why is Mark Levin? Why did they 664 00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:34,280 allow Mark Levin to be out there talking. 665 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 2: It's it's it's astonishing. It's astonishing. I just and and 666 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,119 and this is what drives me crazy. You know. They'll 667 00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:53,760 say they'll say stuff like, oh, you know, anti Semites 668 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,039 are the ones who are putting all these ideas out there, 669 00:47:56,079 --> 00:48:00,000 and it's like, no, you're centering the conversation on your 670 00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:04,400 on yourself, and we're just listening to what you say, 671 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,199 and we believe that you like believe that you can 672 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:15,320 do this, and you're so obviously disgusting and so obviously nuts. 673 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,320 Like it just speaks for it's you speak for yourself. 674 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,599 I don't have to say anything. I just point to 675 00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:26,159 it and go eh eh. And they have such a 676 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,719 lack of theory of mind for other people that they 677 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:36,559 just all they have is, you know, the the labels uh. 678 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:43,679 Aarn McIntyre posted today. Isn't it interesting paraphrasing, isn't it 679 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,280 interesting that cancel culture came back with the uh, you know, 680 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:58,719 the neo con return to prominence. Huh? Imagine that? And 681 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,920 that's all they have because they're so obvious. 682 00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:07,039 Speaker 1: So Thomas and I recorded today and we're doing a 683 00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:13,320 couple episodes on the The Ikman trial and too to 684 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,000 points out like Mark Levin. One of the points that 685 00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:20,000 Thomas made is is if you look at like the 686 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:25,119 the prosecution and the people sitting in the front at 687 00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:31,360 that trial, most of them look European mm hmm, very 688 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:37,840 well spoken, don't lose their don't lose their their tempers, 689 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:45,760 and basically trying to in a in a trial that 690 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,800 was an absolute travesty and just the fuck what a 691 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,960 fucking mess that was. Ye, I mean, there's no precedent 692 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,280 in history for what that was. They tried to put 693 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:04,840 on their best errors and now they're they're friggin spokespeople 694 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:10,559 are Mark Levin, Laura Lumer. Yeah, a gay guy who 695 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,639 like bought two kids and bragged about it, and then 696 00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:16,559 pretty much everybody in the GOP congratulated him. 697 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 2: Yes, oh boy, I'm so happy for you. 698 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: Really, If you don't believe me, I have a video 699 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,239 with all the tweets of all all the quote unquote 700 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,440 right wingers who congratulated him for buying two kids. 701 00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:32,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. 702 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, it just seems that people are in panic 703 00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:42,920 mode over just exactly what they are getting away with now. 704 00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:48,320 But I don't think that they realize that, like they're 705 00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:52,639 they're I'm trying to figure out how to say this. 706 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,000 They're in control, but they're out of control. While they're 707 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:03,760 in control, like they have they have control of the levers, 708 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,519 but the lever they're just pulling levers and pushing them 709 00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:09,840 and breaking them off and just like and they have 710 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:15,559 no idea what they're doing. Yeah, So I'm honestly, I'm 711 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,159 I'm not blackpilled at all. 712 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 2: No, No, I mean exactly the same way, man. 713 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I'm obviously we don't have a leader. 714 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,159 There's no leadership. There's no no one who is going 715 00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:32,760 to take a stand in the government right now, it 716 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,679 is going to take a stand against them. But that 717 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:42,360 still when you you can't you know, you can only 718 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:49,039 drive a car so reckless, reckless all the time before 719 00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:51,280 you're gonna fringing, wipe out, you're gonna spin out, you're 720 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,199 gonna you're gonna go off the road. And that's what 721 00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:56,159 we're seeing right now, is we're just seeing a car 722 00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:59,559 barreling down the road. And it doesn't seem like there's 723 00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:00,599 a drive for the wheel. 724 00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:10,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's yeah, they're they're just they're just 725 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:16,559 continuing to do the same thing. And the narrative is 726 00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:22,679 incongruous with what's taking place. Like at this point, we 727 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:29,400 know they just utterly hijacked MAGA, right, which again none 728 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,679 of us were like Maga guys. But at the same time, 729 00:52:33,039 --> 00:52:36,039 you know, there's you're like, it would be nice if 730 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,519 you know that was what they actually wanted to do. 731 00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:45,239 H and and just there incompetence and again to your point, 732 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:50,280 like they're contempt just a total disregard for even trying 733 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,440 to look legitimate and follow norms that we would follow. 734 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,920 They're so confident that they have total control of the 735 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,280 culture that they that they behave the way just brazenly 736 00:53:02,159 --> 00:53:09,920 and an inability to differentiate between that and their old 737 00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:13,360 way of influencing the culture because they're like, well, my 738 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,599 whole life, we've been in control and I've been able 739 00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:20,840 to just act however I want to. Doesn't mean people 740 00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:23,599 like it. It's they were. It was more that they 741 00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:28,280 just weren't aware of it, you know, it's it's it's 742 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,360 totally staggering. Yeah, it's not good for them. 743 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:39,079 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. When you think that you're in control, 744 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,239 when you think that you are we are the government, 745 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,840 and then you look at the government and you're like, well, 746 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,920 it just doesn't seem that the government works for Why 747 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:57,039 isn't the government working for us? Because we live in 748 00:53:57,079 --> 00:54:02,000 an occupied country? When you really lies that there's an 749 00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:08,199 outside force that you've been social engineered into thinking are 750 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:13,800 victims thinking are smarter than you, thinking are literally better 751 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:14,280 than you? 752 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh, wait. 753 00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 1: A minute, these are murderous psychopaths. Yeah, this is why 754 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:33,119 we're murderous psychopaths. Now, yes, exactly because we've become them. 755 00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:39,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't explain like like one of 756 00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:42,800 the I was thinking about at the end of the 757 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,000 nineteenth century, I was I was reading some material with 758 00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:51,159 the you know, new American imperialism attitude, right like Roosevelt, 759 00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:55,119 Teddy Roosevelt and stuff like that, and some really wild 760 00:54:55,320 --> 00:55:00,960 shit frankly that that they would say and do you know, 761 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,440 uh sping you know, Spanish American war operations in the Philippines, 762 00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:11,440 et cetera, How all that was conducted. It's pretty psycho 763 00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:18,480 and it it's interesting because that then gets blamed for 764 00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:25,440 what we actually did for the next seventy five years, 765 00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:30,079 which was coming from a completely different mentality than that. 766 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,440 Like that was a lot of that was frankly just 767 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,559 propaganda to you know, for that specific war. It wasn't 768 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:45,000 this like real policy. That the actual policy was much 769 00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:51,360 more measured and much more reasonable for the first half 770 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,599 of the twentieth century than it was later. But the 771 00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:59,800 latter half was supposedly so much more moral, right because 772 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,159 all these other moral considerations are being and no, absolutely not. 773 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,719 There was way more psychopathic in the second half of 774 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,760 the twentieth century. So yeah, it's it's crazy stuff because 775 00:56:14,639 --> 00:56:17,199 you have these and again it goes back to those 776 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,519 those old assumptions that you just can't understand unless you 777 00:56:21,639 --> 00:56:26,639 actually step back and say, I'm going to disregard the explanation, 778 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,039 the ideological explanation I had for this that was provided 779 00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:32,880 to me. Right, It's not like I came up with 780 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,440 it on my own. I consumed it at some point 781 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,760 in my life and I was kind of like, oh, 782 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,960 that has explanatory power. That seems to make sense. Smart 783 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,440 people seem to think that, and then you find out 784 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,599 that they're just full of shit and like covering up 785 00:56:48,639 --> 00:56:52,920 for like what's actually happening. And then you're like, oh, 786 00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:56,599 because because all those frames are about your evil American 787 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,880 and like Americans don't want to run around the world 788 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,559 and you know, do imperialism. Like there's a little bit 789 00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:08,440 of people that talk that way on the internet, but 790 00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:11,239 it's like almost nobody actually wants to do that. 791 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,159 Speaker 1: The average American does not want to leave their house. 792 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 2: No, why would The American doesn't want to get off 793 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:19,760 the couch. 794 00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:23,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, so why would you want to run around The 795 00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:26,679 only reason you think that you need to be running 796 00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:29,119 around the world is because the people who've been occupying 797 00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:32,199 you for over one hundred years have convinced you so 798 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:33,320 mm hmm. 799 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,599 Speaker 2: First they force you to do it, and then after 800 00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:40,320 the fact they come up with a narrative because like 801 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,679 World War two was mostly conscript war. It was like 802 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:50,280 the most propagandized war in history, and most people went 803 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:55,519 into the who served on the front lines were conscripts 804 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,159 in the US perspective as well as the rest of 805 00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:04,719 the world. Like a meat grinder is is non voluntary, 806 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:10,559 it's non optional. So and and then the other side 807 00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:15,239 of that is that if you didn't participate in it, 808 00:58:16,239 --> 00:58:20,079 you ate ship for the rest of your life. Yeah, 809 00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:23,840 as punishment because it was so important. 810 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,239 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, and look at look at the way 811 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,679 Ireland gets treated now they have to destroyed because because 812 00:58:29,719 --> 00:58:31,840 they were like, yeah, we're not this isn't us. 813 00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 2: We have not to deal with this. Yeah, exactly, they 814 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:41,519 must be destroyed because they didn't sacrifice, you know, a 815 00:58:41,559 --> 00:58:49,199 generation of young men for Jewish power. You know, I 816 00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:53,480 think I've mentioned this before, but I have a I 817 00:58:53,519 --> 00:58:56,760 have a scene in Faction with the Crusaders that is 818 00:58:57,559 --> 00:59:06,800 basically a conversation with a rando in the United States. 819 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,639 That is actually my one of my grandfather's stories. One 820 00:59:10,679 --> 00:59:17,880 of my grandfathers volunteered for the military. He joined the 821 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,519 army before the war started because he knew he knew 822 00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:23,880 there was going to be a war. The World War 823 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,639 One vets that he worked with, and he was like 824 00:59:26,679 --> 00:59:30,119 twenty five at the time, said, war drums are beating. 825 00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:32,760 You don't want to be you don't want to be conscripted. 826 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,440 You don't want to be drafted. The smart smart move 827 00:59:37,559 --> 00:59:41,440 is too because you're canon fodder. You're an Appalachian kid. 828 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,559 You're a cannon fodder baby. So join early, get a 829 00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:48,440 little experience, and then next thing you know, you'll be 830 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,960 an NCO and you'll have actual training instead of just 831 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,159 getting these little eight week eight week meat grinder sessions, 832 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,679 and so he did that, and the other one who 833 00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:05,000 had been a merchant marine and then was a firefighter. 834 01:00:06,159 --> 01:00:12,719 His mother made him promise. She said, you know that 835 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,280 this war is you know who this war is for, 836 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,039 and what they're cooking up is not in our interests 837 01:00:19,559 --> 01:00:25,119 and it is not moral, and so I want all 838 01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:27,719 my boys to promise me you will not run off 839 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,880 to some full war. They all promised. The only one 840 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,360 who stuck with it was my grandfather. His other brothers 841 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,679 went into the military because the pressure was too great, 842 01:00:38,679 --> 01:00:40,760 and he ate shit for it for the rest of 843 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:50,320 his life. And he was named after his parents' neighbors 844 01:00:51,159 --> 01:00:55,199 only child who died in World War One in the 845 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,119 very first battle the United States fought in something like 846 01:00:59,199 --> 01:01:01,920 twenty thousand young men were killed in one day for 847 01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:09,239 fucking nothing. Nothing had anything to do with us, And 848 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:18,840 why was the US there Balfour Declaration. So I take 849 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:19,519 it personally. 850 01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad did the same thing with Vietnam mhm. 851 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,079 He joined when he was seventeen, you know, went into 852 01:01:31,559 --> 01:01:33,800 made it into intelligence and everything like that. 853 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,159 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, when you volunteer you have a few 854 01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:41,039 more options. Yep. Mine did the same thing after he 855 01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:44,199 graduated from college. He was like, Hey, I have an 856 01:01:44,199 --> 01:01:48,559 accounting degree. I bet that would make me useful in logistics. 857 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:49,719 What can we do? 858 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 1: So, uh, let's finish with this. I know at the 859 01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:02,840 end of the Tucker interview, Tucker is asking for solutions. 860 01:02:03,679 --> 01:02:06,079 At the end of the Scott Horton interview, same thing, 861 01:02:07,159 --> 01:02:10,679 And basically Joe Kent went hard. I think he went 862 01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:12,639 he went harder on Scott Horton show because I mean, 863 01:02:12,719 --> 01:02:16,719 Scott Horton's got a much smaller, a much smaller platform 864 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,280 than Tucker does. I think sometimes when you go on 865 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,079 bigger platforms, you tend to tone it down moderate, yeah, yeah, 866 01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:25,840 and then you go on a smaller platform, it's like 867 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,119 I can let loose a little more. Which it doesn't 868 01:02:29,159 --> 01:02:31,519 matter that those people are always going to find you, 869 01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:33,960 whether you're on a small platform or whatever. They found 870 01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:36,719 Darryl on my platform and we did our JQ episode. 871 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,039 So he said, the way you do this is you 872 01:02:41,159 --> 01:02:43,400 just have to pressure Israel. You just have to tell 873 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,559 Israel you're not getting what you want. You are not 874 01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:49,559 getting anything until you fuck until you moderate yourself, until 875 01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:55,639 you fucking come to your senses. Absolutely, who's ever talked 876 01:02:55,679 --> 01:02:58,119 like that before when it comes to them. Never I'm 877 01:02:58,119 --> 01:03:00,920 talking and I'm talking about like somebody who was an 878 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,880 appointed official. You know what's funny, there are people like 879 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,159 there are trusters out there who are like, he couldn't 880 01:03:08,159 --> 01:03:10,679 even win. He couldn't even win an election. Could you 881 01:03:10,719 --> 01:03:12,280 imagine how bad it would have been if he would 882 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,559 have won an election? Oh, so you're happy that the 883 01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:15,360 Democrat won. 884 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 2: Would you like me to explain for the audience how 885 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:25,440 he lost that election? Please? He primaried a really shitty 886 01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:34,320 Republican and the the smear campaign began hot and heavy, 887 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:40,119 and the people. When I say he primaried, it means 888 01:03:40,119 --> 01:03:44,960 that the people of his district were sick of their 889 01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:53,239 anti Trump, never Trump Republican clown who relatives of mine, 890 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,679 you know, also disliked very much and voted for Joe Kent. 891 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:06,599 And anyway, in Washington State, they have mail in ballots. 892 01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:12,800 It's mail only. Do you think that any election in 893 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:19,599 Washington State goes the way that the Democratic Party machine 894 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,360 doesn't want it to go? Absolutely not. They have motor voter, 895 01:04:26,239 --> 01:04:30,920 they have every ballot stuffing tool on hand. And in 896 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:36,320 their very first all male gubernatorial race in two thousand 897 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,960 and four. It was the very first time they stole 898 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:45,920 an election. We you know, it was really interesting because 899 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:51,239 if you look into it, Washington State probably like almost 900 01:04:51,239 --> 01:04:55,440 certainly should have had a Republican governor in two thousand 901 01:04:55,440 --> 01:05:00,159 and four and going into the Obama era because that 902 01:05:00,199 --> 01:05:04,480 guy would have had two terms and was fairly popular. 903 01:05:04,719 --> 01:05:11,360 And you know, any any district that has more than 904 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,400 a few libtards in it is going to be it's 905 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:19,559 going to you know, have elections won by Democrats. The 906 01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:24,320 most conservative parts of the western half of the state 907 01:05:25,519 --> 01:05:36,239 have all like pageet Democrat representatives because of the numbers. 908 01:05:36,679 --> 01:05:40,119 And it isn't because people are voting for them. It's 909 01:05:40,159 --> 01:05:43,559 because of the ballot stuffing and the fact that there's 910 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:49,199 no oversight. There's been no oversight over elections from someone 911 01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:54,679 who wasn't a partisan Democrat hack for twenty five years. 912 01:05:55,639 --> 01:05:59,920 So that is how Joe quote unquote lost an election. 913 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,360 I just love that they're celebrating that a Democrat won. 914 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,559 They're carrying water for their enemies, oh, I know, which 915 01:06:09,639 --> 01:06:11,559 shows that they're they're the enemy. 916 01:06:12,159 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 1: And then and then what they say, what they'll say 917 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,360 when you criticize the administration for what they're doing well, 918 01:06:18,519 --> 01:06:21,360 you're just using the left talking points. You're just I mean, 919 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,400 you just said that you you just said that you 920 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,000 you're happy that a Democrat won. 921 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly. 922 01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Here's my here's the last thing I want to bring up. 923 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,320 I think that you've probably heard me talk and I 924 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,320 don't know if we've talked about this before, but it 925 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:45,719 seems like Tucker McGregor a couple other people that there 926 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:51,599 is an old school American call them wasps. They want 927 01:06:51,639 --> 01:06:57,639 their country back. Oh yeah, I'll just say this, if 928 01:06:57,679 --> 01:07:00,360 I were to say, Joe Kent twenty eight, what would 929 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:05,719 you think, hm, hm, as the as the first major 930 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,159 anti Israel. 931 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:15,119 Speaker 2: Candidate based That's what I say. And you know, it's 932 01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:19,719 interesting because at different times he said a lot of 933 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:24,760 different things, but people can also change their minds, and 934 01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:28,719 he strikes me, he strikes me as completely honest and candid. 935 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,719 Speaker 1: Dude, if you're in the field, if you're out in 936 01:07:31,719 --> 01:07:35,519 in the fucking ship and you have Shia, if you 937 01:07:35,519 --> 01:07:45,679 have Iran back Shia groups killing your buddies, you're I 938 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,239 have I give you a pass yes on some of 939 01:07:49,239 --> 01:07:53,280 your opinions. It's like some of the guy's opinions who've 940 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,760 been been in the ship of you know, of Islam, 941 01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,599 you know, and lumping it into one thing. You've you 942 01:08:00,639 --> 01:08:04,599 watch your buddy die, you get a pass. 943 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, But. 944 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 1: That's that's what I was thinking, is is that. 945 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 2: This is setting and. 946 01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not the smartest man on the planet. 947 01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:20,359 Somebody on their side already figured this out. And that's 948 01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:26,920 why immediately the the the oh he's a leaker. Oh 949 01:08:27,079 --> 01:08:29,920 he's you know, his his wife works for the you know, 950 01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:32,800 for the Chinese Communist Party, which doesn't exist. 951 01:08:33,039 --> 01:08:35,079 Speaker 2: You know what My favorite thing was related to that. 952 01:08:35,159 --> 01:08:45,640 Pete was some some israel Lite, some Israeli you know, 953 01:08:46,079 --> 01:08:54,840 typing in English, yelling at Americans, said that his wife 954 01:08:55,159 --> 01:09:08,479 works for Max Balloon and Bloomenthal, a rabid anti Semite. Yeah, 955 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:09,439 I heard, beautiful. 956 01:09:10,079 --> 01:09:12,239 Speaker 1: I hear an interview at Max Bullomtthel yesterday. He's like, 957 01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:15,399 he said, I've never met her, I never talked to her. 958 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:16,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. 959 01:09:16,199 --> 01:09:20,079 Speaker 1: A lot of people do drive by articles for our website. 960 01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:23,359 Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly hilarious man. 961 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 1: And I think Burden actually said today when he was 962 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,439 talking with Thomas on Radio Free Chicago, He's like, look, 963 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,520 I've written for like twelve websites and they're one off, 964 01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:38,920 like twelve websites, one off articles, and I've never had 965 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,079 contact with them since I'm just looking. I was just 966 01:09:41,119 --> 01:09:42,439 looking for a paycheck at the time. 967 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 2: Yep. 968 01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's it doesn't escape me that they I 969 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,239 knew they'd immediately go on the attack and they just 970 01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:55,479 start making shit up. 971 01:09:56,079 --> 01:09:59,199 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was the greatest man of all time 972 01:09:59,279 --> 01:10:01,399 when he was when you know, they were trying to 973 01:10:01,399 --> 01:10:03,960 get him on. Yeah, but the. 974 01:10:06,279 --> 01:10:11,239 Speaker 1: Watching how quickly. I mean, just look at this guy this, 975 01:10:12,199 --> 01:10:13,119 I mean, just look. 976 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:19,079 Speaker 2: At his physiognomy. Oh, I know, he's a fucking chad beam. 977 01:10:19,359 --> 01:10:19,720 He is. 978 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:25,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he he runs, and people are 979 01:10:25,399 --> 01:10:30,000 going to listen, and especially if he runs as somebody 980 01:10:30,039 --> 01:10:33,520 who is and I know people are listening to this 981 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,520 and thinking, I'm in cope mode. 982 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,279 Speaker 2: I don't know that the guy is going to run. 983 01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm just sure, thinking out loud, saying 984 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:45,279 he probably won't. He'd fucking be stupid to run. 985 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I think you're right. But you know, 986 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,600 he is the kind of guy that you would be 987 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,640 a good advisor. Yeah, he'd be a good person for 988 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,000 a real position. 989 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Right, But he is also the kind of guy you'd 990 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,960 want to do that because he's fearless and you know 991 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,000 he's been you really can't call him a pussy considering 992 01:11:05,079 --> 01:11:09,760 like what twelve eleven, you know, eleven deployments into the 993 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:18,119 heart of Hell. Also Cia, we can't ignore that. But yeah, 994 01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:22,000 I mean that's the kind of vibe that I'm getting, 995 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:28,439 is that this, this wasp faction that is clearly clearly 996 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:32,560 fighting back against this is looking for their. 997 01:11:32,399 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 2: Guy for twenty twenty eight. 998 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:40,039 Speaker 1: Yes, And the fact that he drops that letter and 999 01:11:40,079 --> 01:11:44,399 then the next thing he does is fly to Tucker. Yeah, 1000 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,680 exactly as Tucker said, we spent the last twenty four 1001 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:51,680 hours together. I mean that means that he wrote a 1002 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,479 letter and flew to Tucker, and Tucker is and I'm 1003 01:11:56,079 --> 01:11:59,960 as we're recording this, I'm orn Headsucker on too. 1004 01:12:00,079 --> 01:12:00,479 Speaker 2: Eh. 1005 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And apparently Tucker is just completely just like it's 1006 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:14,159 the Jews, wild is saying, calling calling Plan trusters idiots. Yeah, 1007 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,840 you know, And so yeah, I think there's something afoot, 1008 01:12:19,359 --> 01:12:22,520 probably wrong wrong. Often That's why I don't like to 1009 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,439 make predictions, because my predictions are are never that great. 1010 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:32,000 But there's somebody that they're I'm I'm pretty positive that 1011 01:12:32,039 --> 01:12:34,199 there's going to be somebody that they're going to run 1012 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,720 as the anti Israel candidate, and it's going to be 1013 01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:41,399 it's going to be from the right. And I think 1014 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,560 that that's they're looking for them right now, and it 1015 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,680 wouldn't be too surprised if they're asking him about it. 1016 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 2: No, I think you're right, and even if it's even 1017 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,840 if it's just in the primaries, just to talk about it, 1018 01:12:54,600 --> 01:13:00,079 just to try to gauge sentiment, just to try to 1019 01:13:00,279 --> 01:13:05,159 get something, you know, get something out there and try 1020 01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:13,560 to try try to move the needle. Yeah, it's it's crazy. Well, 1021 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,760 I know I'll be listening to that Tucker article, excuse me, 1022 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,239 that Tucker interview with oron when I'm in the car 1023 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,119 this afternoon going to see some of the boys so. 1024 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Awesome, and I will be listening to it as soon 1025 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,319 as we disconnect. 1026 01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:33,760 Speaker 2: So tell everybody where they can find your work, all right, 1027 01:13:34,119 --> 01:13:37,319 Thanks Pete, this was super fun. You can find me 1028 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,199 at Carldall dot substack dot com. That's the best place 1029 01:13:41,319 --> 01:13:46,359 I am cowdio doll on x, although I don't post 1030 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:50,840 a lot anymore because it's just the worst platform of 1031 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:56,600 all time. Pete is very wise to to have tapered 1032 01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:57,359 that off. 1033 01:13:57,319 --> 01:14:01,560 Speaker 1: So well, I mean completely not posting for lent, that's 1034 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,880 for sure. And I'm very seriously considering not going back 1035 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:10,600 because you know, my thought was always I have a show. 1036 01:14:11,399 --> 01:14:13,239 If I want to build, you know, if I want 1037 01:14:13,239 --> 01:14:15,560 to build a brand, if I want to have an audience, 1038 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,199 if I want people to listen to what I have 1039 01:14:17,239 --> 01:14:20,640 to say, I should be out there promoting it. Yeah, 1040 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,720 and my subscription My subscription rate has gone up over 1041 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:29,199 ten percent since I got off of Wow, since I 1042 01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:30,439 got off of social media. 1043 01:14:31,039 --> 01:14:35,560 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting. I recently monetized my substack just 1044 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,479 because I've been doing so much for it and I 1045 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,479 had people like asking me to for some time, so 1046 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,560 I finally went for it. I consulted with Burden a 1047 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:52,079 bit on the topic, and yeah, I have I have 1048 01:14:52,119 --> 01:14:56,199 a fair amount of subscriptions coming in there. And it 1049 01:14:56,239 --> 01:14:58,640 has nothing to do with X, Like promoting it on 1050 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:03,039 X barely moves the need. Substack is a very robust platform, 1051 01:15:03,119 --> 01:15:06,920 and that's good. I mean, I'm glad that, you know, 1052 01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:09,760 we have more opportunity to speak on X, but I 1053 01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:14,159 feel like it's a The medium is the message, so 1054 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,319 you know, you know, putting more effort elsewhere is better. 1055 01:15:19,319 --> 01:15:27,079 You're one hundred percent familiar with dead internet theory, right, absolutely, Okay, Yeah, 1056 01:15:27,279 --> 01:15:32,079 I mean it's going to hit a platform at some point. Yeah, 1057 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,239 and you know, it's what I'm seeing on there to 1058 01:15:37,359 --> 01:15:40,079 prolong the point and kind of tie back in. I 1059 01:15:40,119 --> 01:15:48,159 am seeing post October twenty twenty three accounts, account creation 1060 01:15:48,359 --> 01:15:52,920 dates pushing propaganda angles that are following a hasbur a 1061 01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:59,119 template that I first identified in twenty seventeen. I first 1062 01:15:59,239 --> 01:16:02,920 parsed and figured out on GAB in twenty seventeen. And 1063 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:07,279 they're doing the same thing again, like no effort, no 1064 01:16:07,399 --> 01:16:11,119 effort whatsoever to hide it. It's just the same crap, 1065 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:16,960 and it's it's bots being serviced by you know, people 1066 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:21,000 you know in a bunker with little hats, or someone 1067 01:16:21,079 --> 01:16:25,520 who's like pooping themselves in you know, some hell hole, 1068 01:16:26,039 --> 01:16:32,239 et cetera. Or it's just straight AI nonsense. And yeah, 1069 01:16:32,319 --> 01:16:35,640 it's not worth engaging with. It's not worth talking to 1070 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,680 people that aren't like your pal one hundred percent. 1071 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Man, all right, I'll make sure to link to everything 1072 01:16:42,079 --> 01:16:45,600 for you. Thanks, sir, It was good talking to you. Yeah, 1073 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,760 great talking to you, man. Happy Friday. 1074 01:16:48,479 --> 01:17:00,840 Speaker 2: Happy Friday,