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Speaker 1: All the damn work. I'll put it in with you.

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You fisto, What can.

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Speaker 2: You do with this person who's new? So they look good,

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You look good and everybody's safe well as well.

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Speaker 1: Put him on a black leather jacket.

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Speaker 2: A black eye.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Lippman. It looked like she was too slow for school,

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but she came out playing the hot moon.

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Speaker 2: Look really good. Boy them put him in his stew

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boy them Friday and put him in his too, Boydn

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put him in a stew What stew? The Wrestling stew

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your official ww LFG review, present to you by your

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friends at the Wrestling Soup. Today we are reviewing season three,

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episode twelve, Not taking my Spot, which is something you'll

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hear a lot in wrestling. I am former a pro wrestler, producer, trainer,

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graphic designer, uh Indie Wrestling Hall of Famer Li fist

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Stow and he is the lawyer extortin there, guard of

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Fuff and multimedia pizza eater mister Jeff the ben How

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are you, Jeff?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? What's happened in everyone? We're almost on time,

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We're almost on time.

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Speaker 2: We're back on track. And this one starts with oh

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my god, so manly man stuff.

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Speaker 1: In the garage, manly men doing manly stuff in a

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manly space.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's my reader and Arlen lewis training bar Bills

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in sprint apparently compass to the ring. Well not apparently,

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it does pretty much, but uh, I just want to

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shout out to Machio Madness on X. That reminded me

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this week that's this was very similar to King of

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the Hill that would call Bill Bulk and Buddy Buddies

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that included the voice of Randy Macho man Savage And yes, yeah,

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that's pretty much what it was. Mike pushes Arlem to

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be better. He said he's happy that he found a

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partner like him. Uh, there's competition between them, but it's

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good competition. But uh, as they say, he's not taking

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my spot, he's not taking my spot. So anything you

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want to say about this a manly man, man man

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start of LFG for episode twelve.

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Speaker 1: It's funny that somebody present to you as as a

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King of the Hill thing. To me, it was like

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a Rocky three segment when Apollo Creed and Rocky Balboa

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were working out together when they're both training to go

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after club or lang. You know, to get Rocky and Schaefe.

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So I looked at it that way as the Rocky

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three segment, but that's probably just a generational thing more

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than anything else. But yeah, it's I don't know, I mean,

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no spoiler, but it is a spoiler for our show anyway.

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But for two guys to keep saying they have a

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lot of chemistry together, and everyone says they have kind

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of street together, I've yet to see any chemistry between

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the two of them whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and it's something we'll discuss later when they

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go one on one in the main event of this show.

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And actually the morning meeting is once against with Matt Bloom, Booker,

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t Bubbaret, and koe Kevin Owens before we get to

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our Menley man Man's Match one is actually the ladies

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and Booker will be in charge of Chantelle Monroe versus

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Bailey Humphrey. It's pretty much like a comeback for Monroe.

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She's been out for two months with a broken nose,

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and apparently she asked for Bailey. Booker says that Umphrey's

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timing is a lot better, but he wants more out

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of her and the goal here is to have the

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heel being credible against a bigger babyface.

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Speaker 1: I am so into Chantelle Monroe, both in the appropriate

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correct ways and in all the inappropriate ways as well.

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Guilty as charged. I'm so happy to see her back.

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The woman is a star. I remember when she was

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on earlier this season. I think it was the first

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time you'd seen her like star. So I'm great. I'm

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grateful that it's not just me. I did find it

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interesting that she wanted to work with Bailey, and I

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think that's really cool, and Bailey wanted to work with

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her as well. We'll talking about Bailey Humphries, not Bailey Bailey,

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and I don't know, it's fine because you know last

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episode Serena Linton, that was all sudden best friends with

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PJ Vassa, but she used to be best friends with

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Bailey Humphries. And now you know Bailey, you know, looks

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like they've done some doc does you know, trading and

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best friends here, I guess, But yeah, that was that

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was it. I guess it was a power versus glory,

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you know, power versus someone trying to use their head

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and skill, so I was I was intrigued. I think

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they sold what the idea of this match was going

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to be well to me, I was digging it anyway.

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Speaker 2: And for match to speaking of Star and Nathan Cranton

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will be taken on Tate Wilder or I like to

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call him the gentleman cowboy. So Cranton is developing at

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the very good pace, but he needs work on his

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selling and aggresses in this and Wilder, as we've seen

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him before, he's he's a flippy kind of guy, very athletic,

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but he needs to be able to tell a story.

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It's not all about the flips. So Bubba Ray's going

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to be in charge of this one. He says he's

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going to work as magic and Booker goes, do your thing,

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do your thing right.

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Speaker 1: I very much was like Booker saying do your thing, sarcastically,

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like I'm a better coach than you are. That they

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still have that little low key rivalry. Tate Wilder is

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a lot like Mike de Ruder, not physically but in

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what they do and what they want to do in

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their bad habits, and maybe also like Jamie as well.

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is one where we know both people have matriculated. So

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but there was actually parts of this show not directly

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related to this match, they will talk about a few minutes.

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I'm sure that was actually among my favorite parts, not

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just of this episode but of the season, and of.

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Speaker 2: Course we mentioned it already. The main event for this

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show is Mike the Ruder versus Arlem Lewis. Coach in

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charge is Kevin Owens, which is really interesting since Kevin

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has a high impact, brawling kind of style that could

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really match Arlem Lewis. I feel Kevin is a good

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coach to learn from when it comes to his style.

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The goal of this match, They're gonna have tons of ideas.

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These guys always have tons of ideas, but they need

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to make sense. What I thought was really interesting about

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this one is that Coach Bloom says they can choose

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whoever wants to be the babyface or the heel, but

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he feels that the Ruter, with his more dynamic style,

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feels more the criter years to fill as a babyface. Otherwise,

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there wasn't much directions or plans for this match given,

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but yeah, besides, you know, you did tons of shit,

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so trying to make it sense.

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Speaker 1: Of all this, Yeah, and on that, Ko said that

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his approach is to let the talent do what they

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want to do, and then he'll give feedback on that.

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He doesn't like the control things. I don't remember if

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that's been his approach throughout the season. To be frank,

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I don't remember actually saying those words, but I think

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these guys both would have benefited from him actually taking

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a more proactive role in it. And I don't know

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that Blooms saying what he said. He also said to

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Ko privately and said, let these guys control. Let's see

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what they can do, because you know, maybe because they're

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both sort of searching for an identity that's separate and distinct.

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I mean in a lot of ways that they could

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be clones, except one is much more agile than the

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other one. That's why the other guy thinks he's a powerhouse,

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and I'm sure he is, but but the guy will

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also the Flips is twenty pounds heavier.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mike the Ruter is. I don't want to

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say one of a kind, because there's a few guys

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like him, but there's not too many that are as

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big muscle wise that could do what he does. So

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it's something special, so you got to keep it special,

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which we'll see I don't think he really understands before

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we go to match one. Actually, I think the segment

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you were talking about is actually this one where we

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see Bailey and Naytan talking about their love story on

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the live NXT shows. Apparently it's an idea for producer

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Ryan Katz, and it's funny because it kind of reminded

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me a little bit of China and Eddie Guerrero back

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in the days. So you see them talking about that,

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and Bailey mentioned that her mom's it's going to be

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in attendance, and Nathan goes, oh, you didn't tell me

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you had a mother. I'm like, dude, so is it

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the segment that you were really fond of or absolutely?

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Speaker 1: And this whole thing it's like and they showed like

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little bits and clips of it that apparently they've been

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doing it during evolved during these tapings that the live

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crowd has got to sort of see and enjoy as it. Like,

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I don't know what the time span is, but you

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know clearly it started with with Bailey being who's this guy?

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What's up with him? And then rebuffing him and then

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eventually being like ooh that's nice, which is five because

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you know Bailey is an unusual looking woman to begin

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with a physical specimen and everything. But you know, Noah

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would say classically beautiful. Tristan Angels could be a classically

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beautiful woman as well as a classically beautiful man. I mean,

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the guy was mister England and the beauty pageant. I mean,

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you know, he is beautiful. So it's it's I don't

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want to say beauty in the beastpan sort of the story,

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you know, and just the whole thing. But it seems

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so cute and natural and spontaneous, and they were really

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into it and it worked, and and they could replay this,

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you know, on NXT on the main roster and it

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would be okay there too. I just think the whole

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thing is great. The only problem with it, and I'm

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sure we'll get to, is that at some point during

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the match, when Tristan interacted with the crowd, and I'm

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not gonna tease anymore, it almost made him facy.

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Speaker 2: Yes it did. We'll talk about it in match too.

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But for Match one, Chantel Monroe's taking on Belly. Shantel

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has bedazzled her mask because she has to wear a

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mask for you know, protecting her nose. And uh and

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matches her gimmick, which is the reflection of perfection. One

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thing I have to say, though, I think like it's

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the fifth person that I've been using the reflection of perfection.

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I know there's a guy Quebec right now using the

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same kind of moniker, but hey, it works. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: Is he as perfect as she is? I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, oh no, no, he's so Booker

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mentions that, of course it's important right away to know

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who's foo. Smaller heel also means she needs to up

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the aggression because Bailey is no regular woman. He'll needs

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to sell it by time and keep on the attack.

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So it makes sense. And also that Bailey doesn't look

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kind of stupid or weak because having a bigger babyface is.

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and they did I think a great job here. Entrances.

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Bailey came out first, dropped her goat, she had a

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little smile, she did the little rock dance again. I

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felt that she was a little bit nervous. I could

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see it on her face. Maybe it's because mommy was

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in the crowd. Chantel comes out great attitude, shit talking,

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She had a little mirror. I feel she needs something bigger.

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She almost needs someone carrying a mirror, like a sensational

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Sherry was for Sean Michaels back in the day. I

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think like they just should make it bigger. I like

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that she you know, she sells her nose, but she

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keeps the gimmick like, oh, even if I wear this,

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I'm pretty entrances were great, nothing to say. It set

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the tone already, and the start of the match even

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sets it more because you really see the chicken shit

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versus the beast. And Chantell also uses her mask as

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the next use like oh you see her, like oh sorry,

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my nails and this and this. They did that spinning

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bump thing that they practice, uh and it worked really well.

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Chantell rolled out to the outside and every time she

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tried to whip Bailey, Bailey would whip her insteads showing

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that she is much stronger opponent. There was a nice

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bress slam and a corner splash from Bailey. Again, I

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feel like Bailey working with the Undertaker. Everything looks better.

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For the cut off, Chantel went nice to the back

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shot block right between like on back of the leg,

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It makes sense, and I really love that when she

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was using the post, she was like for you, momy,

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and she kissed the Bailey's mom. Bailey was back in,

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I went for the top road splash. I mean, once

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nice top row splash, only a two count and right

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away went back on the leg for the old spot.

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Bailey went for a quick inside cradle one two and

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she was cut off right away with a dropkick on

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the knee. Again. Everything made so much sense, and I

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really love how they did the comeback where shantel atteends akissudora.

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She that's where you jump on your opponent's kind of

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mid sections to do like usually it's you go in

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between the legs. It's a pinfall, but it was reversed

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in a big bellied the back. Bailey got up and

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screamed and fired up really like a babyface. She got pumped.

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She got into right away like power bomb, power slam finished.

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I don't know how she calls it the one two

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three and she was still selling the leg easy match.

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Everything was clear. You knew who was the heel, who

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was the face. There was a plan from the heel

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trying to you know, chomp down the tree and work

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on the legs. I love this match.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved even before the match when we saw

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a booker doing the agency and micromanaging and actually doing that,

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and it really showed his genius, you know, in the business.

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I mean, I love how you know, he made the lockups,

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how he told them how to do a lockup, so

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they make a chicken should heal, you know, look like

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they're making sense. And the you know, Chantelle jumping on

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Bailey's back and the spin, you know, the almost like

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the windmill thing, you know, sort of like with Czari

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used to do, but not on purpose. It's almost defensively.

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I just I just loved all about that he was talking.

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They were absorbing it in. I agree that when Bailey

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came out, maybe the eye makeup doesn't help. That's very

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healy ie makeup. But she definitely looked like her face

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entrance wasn't much different than her heel entrance, and I

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think that that was a problem. She wasn't very animated.

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But as soon as Chantell came out, I didn't care

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anymore because Chantelle has an interest in all caps, underscore

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six times as many explanation points as your word processor

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will allow. It was fantastic. I agree her compact, you know,

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probably needs to be bigger. She should probably have two

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guys you know on each side carrying full body length

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mirrors on I sight, or like Lex Lugert and narcissist

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kind of tnch whatever it is. But she's perfect. Her

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body language is perfect. The way she mocks the crowd

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as perfect. The way she looks, the way she laughs,

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the way she walks towards someone then backs away, like everything.

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She's such a natural. And one of the things this

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show showed us when she was on the first time

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was that that's not her personality. That's not her, that's

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not her dialed up to ten or eleven. She's just

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owning her character, which is why I mean, you can

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see why so many wrestlers go into acting in the ring,

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great selling working the leg as you pointed out, and

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I've been critical of Bailey Humphreys some of her moves masks.

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First of all, she had no problem doing the gorilla

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press that was executed perfectly, and the finisher, which I

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could I paid attention to this time or she did

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it better. This time. She puts someone into a power

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bomb position, but instead of them dropping them down a

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power bombs, she sort of pivots them above her, almost

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like it's a fireman's carry, and turns that into a

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power slam. And she did it perfect freickly this time, perfectly.

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That's a finisher. Now. I don't know if she had

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trouble the time for balance, or maybe Chantelle just weighs

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less or is proportioned differently or whatever was, but this

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was perfect. If she can do this eight out of

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ten times, that is a finisher and Bailey gets the win.

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Mom was proud. Booker was proud. Booker was really proud

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of his work. He was self high fiving. You know,

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DDP is nothing on him.

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Speaker 2: A little more or wits to the back.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Bloom liked it two and he said he loves Chantella.

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I'm like, Bloom, You're so smart.

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Speaker 2: Who doesn't love Centel. At this point, everybody was super happy.

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Chantell was relentless, Bailey looked good fighting from under even

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at her bigger sign. And here's the thing, here's why

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I'm so and I like that you mentioned that Bailey's

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entrance compares to shant was like, eh, but if you

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switch the entrance and you have Shantel coming out first

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and then Bailey coming out second automatically because the other

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one is such a fucking heel and you want to

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fucking hate her, and you know she's all about her whatever.

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Bailey doesn't need to do much, you know, just to

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get the crowd behind her as a baby face. But

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because she went out first and she kept the makeup,

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and and because she know, I'm assuming she doesn't want

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to change the character too much. She's supposed to be

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a killer. She's a badass, so you're not gonna go

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out there like hi, so you know I'm five and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like well but did you know this?

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She didn't do her like makarena, like bicep, bicep one

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on down, you know, most muscular crab form. She didn't

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do that. Does she think only heals flex?

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Speaker 2: Because no, it's it's it's a nice little thing to

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do and your interest. It's like hers, So I think

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she should like always do it, you know, babyface just

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had a little smile and try to have the people

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do it with you at the same time, just like

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the way people dance when fucking obo Femi comes out.

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Ober Femi's a fucking killer, but you dance with the

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guy and you're like, they go like oh, but they

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could easily go bay or even free. She has the

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name and the last name to have like a Goldberg

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kind of shint. So there's ways for her to stay serious,

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not be over the top baby and you know a

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little bit like Obafemi. But again, put her second. It's

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gonna be so much more natural if she the heel

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was so good that the baby face's job was easy

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in the match. So it's the same principle you must

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apply when it comes to entrance. So goddamn, why do

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you have the freaking face come out first? Anyway, thank

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god they do not do the same mistake In this

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upcoming match, which is Natan Crampton versus Tate Wilder, Bubba

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tells state that he has to work so people are

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first forced to get behind him and it's comeback, anguish

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must become fire. He has to get the most emotion

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out of the people with the least amount of moves.

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And I love that he mentioned that because again we

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mentioned it before. Tate Wilder is one of the guy

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who was like he likes to do the flips and

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the shiny thing, which is great, but you gotta place

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them where they belong. And when it comes to Nathan,

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it's all about his viciousness. Like they have to see

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the emotions in this was like so great. Every wrestler

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should write this down in the fucking notebook. You must

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see the emotion on the face, the fists and the

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body language. I'm like, yes, this this, this is like

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the perfect fucking description of what you need to do.

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He has to get from pretty ugly back to pretty

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and Nadan goes like, oh, I'm so pretty. I don't

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look like a front.

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Speaker 1: Like dude, I was like, okay, the guy knows he

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did incorporate that in promos at some point, So like

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Johnny g Bad said, I'm so pretty, I should have

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been a little girl.

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Speaker 2: Well he's like, I'm so pretty that uh I'm a

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I'm a pageant quator or a pageant whatever he's.

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Speaker 1: Doing because I'm a bad man.

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Speaker 2: But I'm a bad man. So for the entrances, I again,

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thank god, I'll say it again in again, He'll came

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out first, and Bubba tells him just before he crosses

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the curtain, like Nathan have to be larger than life. Well, dude,

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you need a fucking entrance jacket. If you're gonna have

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a big personally, have big gear. There's definitely something missing

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when he comes out. We were talking about how it

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reminded us a little bit of a triple H, like

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from Greenwich, like the the more like, uh, what's the

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word I'm looking for, Like aristocrat like kind of triple H.

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He had the jacket, the bowing and everything. Nathan needs

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not the copy Triple Ah, but have something that's along

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the lines of So it makes his gimmick even more.

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Speaker 1: Like cape like a like a coptain Monte Cristo or

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Charlotte Holmes and some only with a cow, but not

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like Charlotte Flairwaer goes up just like one of those.

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Speaker 2: Hat with a big fucking feather where he can remove it,

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almost like a musketeer, where he's like bowing, removing his

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hat and putting it back on. Something like that that

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makes it link.

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Speaker 1: Well, like a Clark cape, which I understand might look

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like a giant cross, which it is, but still it's

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the flag of England. Or when he's a face he

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can use the British bulldog and Jack cape.

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Speaker 2: Why not, I mean have a Matilda to maybe not.

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It's always a problem with dogs. Remember kennel in a cell. Guys,

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if you don't want Tom talking about go go on

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YouTube and search kennel and a cell. Dogs need to poop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, getting scared at an aw show. There is nothing

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on this.

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Speaker 2: Oh good times take comes out. I love that he's

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like tipping his hat, shaking hands. He's really a gentleman cowboy,

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very babyface. And of course the heel entered first, he

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looked like a guy you want to fucking punch in

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his pretty face. So the cowboy doesn't need to do much,

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but he is doing things and it just works. They

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did a hot start where Naytan like attacks Tait while

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he's on the second road, and I just thought that

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Naytan's shots were solid, but a little bit too slow

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when you attack, when you want to have that hot start,

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you kind of have to attack in a fury. The

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shine for for Tait, he went into a series of

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pinfall It was okay. I mean pinfalls like this always worked,

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but I just feel like there should have been a

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few hits in there. Why because he got hit in

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the back. He already got attacked. Like if a heel

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comes in, you do technical stuff and then you'd go

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into the pinfalls. It's kind of a smoother transition. Then boom,

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I attack you from behind. I'm a fucking ass, and

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then you just would pin. Of course, if you pin

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him and you win, it is it is devastating for

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the heels. Embarrassing. But in this case, like we know

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it's not gonna stop there, I would have done something

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more flashy, maybe where you know where that's where maybe

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you duck something and you hit a drop kick and

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another one and something flippy, and heel goes outside freaking

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pissed that he's got caught by all the flashy stuff

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the other guy can do. But I mean, it wasn't bad.

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It's just I really feel it would have been a

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little bit better because of how they started the match,

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the cutoff once again, Nathan used that guillotine shot on

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top of the top ropes, then his shots to the back.

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You know, he bows down and he's like, get up, cowboy.

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I felt he was not condescending enough like he needed

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to be. You know how we said that Brax and

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Cole needed arrogance instead of whininess. I feel it's the

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same thing for Natan. He needs yeah, I mean get

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a cowboys really arrogant, but he needs to be more.

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Everything needs to be bigger, and I feel he should

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speak like tait Is Benatam's like, oh, you're a cowboy,

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You're disgusting, you're around.

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Speaker 1: Like one word I think would have made a lot

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of difference, American cowboy, Get up, American cowboy? Are you

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American cowboy?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's a little something that's like ooh, ooh.

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It's kind of the way he says it. It's like, ooh,

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you're an American cowboy. Boo.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, you have British look down upon

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their little cousins that they're you know, that we're unkempt

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and unruly and rude and uncultured, which isn't entirely wrong.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna say anything. I'm I'm Canadian, so

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I there's a lot of great Americans out there. But

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if you think it's our fault that there's a fire

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going on in our forest, you're dumb, That's all I say.

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Speaker 1: Because we have no fires in the United States never oh.

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Speaker 2: And we can absolutely control fires and where the smoke

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goes that's we control the wind. I know it, right,

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I Mean that's the land of the of snow. So

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we're like Storm, we control the weather. We decided that

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all the smoke was going to the United States.

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Speaker 1: We did I knew stormwork for the Alpha flight.

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Speaker 2: Oh we could go out and but you know, let's

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go into Nathan's heat. I just felt it was weird

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that once the cowboy was down, Nathan picked him up

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again for a souplex. What what's to have an opponent

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down to pick him up again? Is it's not ideal

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because the main reason about you know, all this is

467
00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:10,039
you want to win, and how do you win pinfall?

468
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:13,799
I mean there's submissions and DQ and Alessa, but usually,

469
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,279
I mean the first thing is pinfall. So why would

470
00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:21,200
you pick up somebody that's down. It's better to give

471
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:25,200
shots where the babyface bumps and kind of gets up

472
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,559
by himself, and then you go grab him and then

473
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:33,559
you go in the souplex. But oh, that's that's exactly

474
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,519
also where you you mentioned it before. He goes for

475
00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:40,519
the super lex and he sees Bailey's mom in the

476
00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:44,119
crowd and he's like, oh, I got ten seconds, Like

477
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,240
somebody's going out. The Rep's like, hey, what the hell

478
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:46,759
are you doing?

479
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,799
Speaker 1: You remember what he said first when he yelled, I

480
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:54,079
don't he was I didn't know Bailey Humphreys had a sister.

481
00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure, her mom actually looks really young. That's true.

482
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:01,519
She probably is.

483
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:03,799
Speaker 1: I mean she's she's probably on she's probably forty five.

484
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:07,799
Speaker 2: What a gentleman? Oh that they a gentleman.

485
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be a gentleman. He's flirting with

486
00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:12,519
her and it's cute, and he puts his like his

487
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:16,559
his mister England uh whatever you call it, pageant sash

488
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,119
around her neck like he's like, like he's.

489
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:22,599
Speaker 2: Doing technically she's the mother in law, so I mean,

490
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,920
he hates everybody besides her. We don't know. Maybe she

491
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:29,480
made him some great meal, or.

492
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,359
Speaker 1: Maybe he was trying to get two sisters. I don't know.

493
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,599
That would be killy to get two sisters. I don't.

494
00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:36,440
I don't know what he was doing.

495
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,279
Speaker 2: But it was some movies I can't give you the title.

496
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: Right, And he looks like Prince Charming, so I don't know.

497
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,880
It was it was listen, it was cute, it was spontaneous.

498
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,480
I'm sure that wasn't in anyone's script. I think that

499
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:52,680
he was thinking about doing the whole time and said

500
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,519
I'm doing it, and I think that might have been

501
00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:59,359
why he was his focus wasn't entirely on the match

502
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,759
because he was He's probably like, this is off script.

503
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:03,319
I can get a big trouble. I can get it,

504
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,519
and he's like, fuck it, this is never going to happen.

505
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:07,279
You know what.

506
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,559
Speaker 2: You have to listen to the crowd, and you gotta

507
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,359
see opportunities when there's some, because like you just said,

508
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,119
they don't always come so easy, so you gotta rap

509
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:20,920
them fucking opportunity and do it.

510
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,599
Speaker 1: I think he made the right move. I think I

511
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:24,319
think he had to do it. He just he just

512
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:26,839
didn't know how to turn it into a He'll move over.

513
00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:30,519
That's okay. He'll learn that. With time, he'll learn how

514
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,720
to change it from charming to rick rude.

515
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: He's simply rah but a great scene.

516
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: He was simply ravishing.

517
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:48,079
Speaker 2: He was so going back to actually Bailey's mom. That's

518
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,160
where Nayton is. He's losing so much time with the

519
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,160
mom that when he gets back on the apron uh,

520
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,599
that's where the whole spots happened, where Tate hits him

521
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:03,839
on the back, tries to suplick him back in, but

522
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:09,240
Nathan slides behind and boom, hard shot to the back. Yeah,

523
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:15,119
he continues his heat. He he hits kind of side

524
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:20,000
to side. But once the babyface is down, I feel

525
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,319
you should have your your like forearm go up and

526
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:27,279
down and make it really big so people see it

527
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,519
and it's going to create more noise when you go

528
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,079
down when when the it's it's like meat on meat.

529
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:36,400
When the meat of your forearm hits the meat of

530
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,160
the back, it's going to make that clapping sound, and

531
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:43,039
I feel like it would have more because with the

532
00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:47,920
sound you get a reaction. So you don't need to

533
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:52,920
beat up the face like NonStop like in the beginning,

534
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,880
where you need to have him like you beat them

535
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,599
up so they stay down. You're in control at this point,

536
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,720
so you can bam, wait a little bit, bam. So

537
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,400
I just feel like it was missing a little bit,

538
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:09,519
and he should work on the up and down clubs

539
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:13,599
to the back so they they're more vicious and they

540
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:17,079
make noise. He got tit in the hold, which is

541
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:20,759
great because to go back what Bubba was saying, you

542
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:22,759
got to get the crowd behind you, and that's a

543
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:24,799
great way to get the people clapping for the baby

544
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:27,640
face to get up. And that's actually what Tate did.

545
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,279
Babyface got up, he got cut with a knee and

546
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:33,200
a big slam. The heel goes on the top rope,

547
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,960
gets distracted, going like this is for you, mom, and

548
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,000
he kind of slipped. He made it look like it

549
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,640
was on purpose. He slipped because he was distracted by

550
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:56,119
the mom. But it didn't look happ It's it's like

551
00:33:56,519 --> 00:34:00,000
it looks like you. You wonder is it an error

552
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:03,880
or is it a purpose? It was not the best thing.

553
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,240
It's that's where a rick Flair bump would have worked better.

554
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:11,000
It's like, that's for you, mom. Babyface comes in, boom,

555
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,719
big rick Flair bump because he got distracted the slipping thing.

556
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:18,000
I still wonder if it was on purpose or he

557
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:22,519
really slipped. They didn't talk about it, so I'll never know,

558
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:25,199
but it was not. If it was on purpose, it

559
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,960
was not the best thing to do. I would have

560
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,320
bound with a Rick Flair bump or something where the

561
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,719
Babyface uses the ropes to get up and crotches Nathan unintentionally.

562
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,599
But it's at least funny and like heels like selling

563
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:44,360
his balls and then you go from there. So instead

564
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,760
he Nathan went up, went for a big elbow drop.

565
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:52,679
He missed it taste, slowly got up and he really

566
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,719
sold well the desperation to fire like he started looking

567
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,519
and then got up. It could have been even bigger,

568
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:03,679
but I think the assignment that Bubba gave him to

569
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:09,119
go from you know, desperation to fire, he showed it

570
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,800
like better than before, like ever before. So there was

571
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,480
a nice bump and feed. There was good fire between

572
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:17,800
the moves. He took the time to look at the

573
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,079
crowd to scream to be alive, and even the crowds

574
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:25,159
started like he haw, he haw. It's always great when

575
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:28,519
the crowd starts a chant without you telling them to.

576
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,880
It's because you have so much fire they want to

577
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,639
get behind you. So babyface did a great job there.

578
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,079
He was stopped by a strong back elbow from Nathan

579
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:41,159
in the corner. He ran right into it and looked

580
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:46,559
great and the finish again Nathan went on top rope,

581
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:50,960
Pate bumped him. Kind of a reminder of what happened

582
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,000
at the start where Nathan was on the second rope

583
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:58,320
and hot start. Nathan got him in the back. It

584
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,760
was like a little weight wink to the beginning, and

585
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,320
that's always great when the baby face gets cut, like

586
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,360
a revenge on what happened, and uh mood salt went

587
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,599
two three again. That wasn't that was a good match.

588
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: I thought the mets was just okay. There were there

589
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,239
were definitely high points. I definitely agree that tit at

590
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,280
the end built up the emotion you know in his

591
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,800
comeback spot too, you know, and the and the yiha

592
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,320
was really good. So obviously the crowd felt definitely to me,

593
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,760
I think if they took into it, if they did

594
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,840
some of the things that you said, making certain moves

595
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,280
bigger and things like that, it would have felt more

596
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,519
like it. But I never felt that Tate was out

597
00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:43,719
of it. It was like a fifty to fifty match,

598
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:46,880
and I felt like Tate should have been, you know,

599
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,679
taking taking offense for like sixty five or seventy percent

600
00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:55,159
of it, but really like like hurt, like he's really

601
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:58,760
trying to recover. I didn't the comeback. I never felt

602
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,039
like he needed to come back much. I always felt

603
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:05,440
it was a close bite. So while listen Bubba disagreed

604
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,719
he thought it was very good. I just was just

605
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,800
I just like I said, I just never felt that

606
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:13,360
he was actually out of the match, and so I

607
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,360
wasn't that excited when he came back from it, and

608
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,559
and I felt myself wondering what I'm not supposed to wonder,

609
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:23,880
which is, did somebody cute to the audience to start

610
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:29,559
cheering for him? Is there a producer going whatever? I

611
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,679
don't know, you know, again, just my impression, but everything

612
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:37,400
you said absolutely absolutely. You know. I wonder if if

613
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,960
Nathan being charming in the middle of match sort of

614
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,440
impacted my view of the rest match, even though I

615
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:42,960
thought that that.

616
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,519
Speaker 2: Was great, maybe you know what you say, like a producer,

617
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:51,519
but what if it was like another person from the

618
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,559
performance center starting the ehawk because they're sitting there watching

619
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:58,559
the matches, so that that could me it too.

620
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: And you know what I missed at the end, we

621
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:06,079
did not get Matt Bloom comments, and I really felt

622
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:08,800
like I wanted to get Matt Bloom comments because I

623
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,440
wanted to see if he differed in opinion from Bubba

624
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,519
and if so, to what the grain. It was just

625
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:17,679
silent on that, yeah, because.

626
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 2: We only had Bubba. He actually asked Nathan, how would

627
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,519
you rate the match, and Naythan said, very good. The

628
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:28,440
crowd was interested, which is absolutely true. The crowd was

629
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:33,639
not like dead silence, like there were some points where

630
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:39,039
they couldn't have been louder. And well that's exactly why

631
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:42,480
they were not as exactly the reason why you said,

632
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:47,239
like this Tate. Tate was selling. There was pain on

633
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,639
his face, but just like you like he It didn't

634
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:56,920
feel like he was like in a very big like

635
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:02,519
not Naytan was a threat, but not to the point where,

636
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:05,679
oh my god, like this guy is gonna die.

637
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: Right, it was not. It did feel it was the

638
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,119
fight of his life. And and you know Jeff Hardy

639
00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:12,400
does that great. And I compared Tate to Jeff Hardy

640
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,360
purposefully so their move set and their size, you know,

641
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,199
their builds. Yeah, I mean, you know I've said it now.

642
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,159
I mean everyone gets and they can they can judge

643
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:25,159
for themselves where they agree with me or from being

644
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:25,800
too critical.

645
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: Well you know how I was saying, you know, lift

646
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:33,039
the arm, go down, make more sound, and you need

647
00:39:33,159 --> 00:39:36,840
less of them because they're so impactful. That's where take

648
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,840
and like scream and sell us back and hold his

649
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,760
back and try to get up with the while the

650
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,320
heel is like talking crap and prancing around the ring.

651
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:49,760
There's because that shot was so it was loud, it

652
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,760
was good. It gives time to the baby face to

653
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,679
give give us that like.

654
00:39:56,199 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: Desperation a your face is going to emote that. Also,

655
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,199
you can't go ah without your face making you know,

656
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,280
your eyes squint, crows, nests, wherever.

657
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,559
Speaker 2: It hurts, put your hand there and kind of show that.

658
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:14,880
People's like, oh my god. Like if it's your lower back,

659
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,639
hold your lower back, if it's your elbow.

660
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: Or whatever, hold limp and go damn it something yes.

661
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,679
Speaker 2: And again, I'll never say it enough. In wrestling, you

662
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,719
never want to go down because you don't want to

663
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,639
get pinned, so you should always be trying to get up.

664
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:35,320
So when you're selling, go to the ropes. Try to

665
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,280
use the rope to lift yourself up so you're on

666
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,320
your feet and not on your back, because that's where

667
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:44,880
you don't want to be in a wrestling match. And

668
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,519
that way, while you're pulling yourself up, everybody sees your face.

669
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,840
You can like squint and like show like oh this

670
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:59,079
it's so hard to pick myself up because I'm hurt.

671
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,400
And then you it's sympathy because people are suffering with

672
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,800
you and they want to get behind you, and it's

673
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,960
just natural to start clapping and get into it. But

674
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:13,000
the heel needs to have enough time between those moves

675
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:16,280
and those the moves needs to be impactful as well,

676
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,039
enough so the babyface has something to sell. So if

677
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:23,199
they would have done that, I'd like the match because

678
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,280
there was no fuck up. It was a little part

679
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,360
in the middle where it was cute and funny, and

680
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,199
you know, Nathan was attacking, but he should have been

681
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,400
I don't know, putting the hair, I you know, high scratching.

682
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:41,679
Why he's not like using the Rick Flair backscratch that

683
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,400
would work for him, like little things that make him

684
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,400
more heel. And I don't know if they told the

685
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,480
people at the performance center not to do that, but

686
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:53,599
I never see a heel using the ropes to choke

687
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:57,840
the babyface or not much like we've seen it and

688
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,400
PJB and Serena lived in and one critique that I

689
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,440
have is that Serena was not like coughing and choking,

690
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:10,159
so we could not have any sympathy for her. But

691
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:13,360
it's something so easy that you give a big shot

692
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,800
to the baby face Babyface sells to the rope because

693
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,159
he's trying to get out. He'll comes on him and

694
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,400
and you know, presses him down against the rope and

695
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,960
he's choking while he's arguing at the referee. Get almost

696
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,320
of the five count and then oh, let go, the

697
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,039
baby face can sell and and and put his hand

698
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:35,320
on his throat and he's coughing and he's choking. It's easy.

699
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,159
Speaker 1: They and Tate also seems like the guy who would

700
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:41,719
launch himself into the ropes and like maybe get himself

701
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,599
and accidentally tangled up or in a position where Nathan

702
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,920
would tangle him up and take advantage of it, even

703
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:50,400
just gut shots, you know, and then slap the face

704
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,440
and pie face and would be really obnoxious. I don't

705
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,119
know if I don't know if they're at that stage

706
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:57,440
yet where they would even think or can use that

707
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,199
as props yet. But you're right, just using the rope says, ok,

708
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,000
it's pretty dark, easy to do. And then you turn

709
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,599
it into like a guillotine and then you you you know,

710
00:43:06,679 --> 00:43:08,719
prance around to the crowd out there.

711
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, or the old school burning the face on top

712
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:15,400
of the you know, on the top rope while you're

713
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:19,320
that would be something for Nathan that would work perfectly.

714
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,360
I think as he's like, oh he's not gonna be

715
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,760
as pretty as me now or whatever. It's it's so

716
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:30,360
wrestling could be easy, but as wrestlers, and I include

717
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,679
myself in there, we think about too many fucking things

718
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,480
and we don't need that is handsome.

719
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: How do you like his red face? Now?

720
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,559
Speaker 2: See? I mean, uh, it's the kiss principal, keep it simple, stupid,

721
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:49,920
but we don't get super idiots, or we want to

722
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,480
do moves that we want to. We want to we

723
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:57,679
want to impress or whatever. Anyway, so one thing that

724
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,000
Bubba said like he wanted Nate and should even be

725
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:04,880
like more vicious, and he said the beginning like he

726
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,079
should have beat down on tape until the referee pulled

727
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:11,360
them off and then go back, which is kind of

728
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,760
the same thing I was saying where he was giving

729
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,960
shots but they were slow, where he should have been attacking, attacking,

730
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:22,400
attacking to put the baby face down. But besides that, yeah, no, no,

731
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,440
Matt Bloom, I yeah, I would like to have his opinion,

732
00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:32,159
but we didn't have We didn't have it indeed. So anyway,

733
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:37,199
two matches so far and this this show is going good, so.

734
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:39,039
Speaker 1: Ev.

735
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,679
Speaker 2: The main event of Mike the Ruder in Arlem Lewis

736
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,519
so Lewis loves that Mike not only has idea for himself,

737
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:52,719
but for him as well. He comes up with tons

738
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,159
of stuff like you mentioned before. Kevin lets them work

739
00:44:56,199 --> 00:44:59,360
the ideas and he steps in when he feels it's needed.

740
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:03,119
He gives them tips on working Mike's lakes because he

741
00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:07,440
says it's gonna be a factor in the finish. He

742
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:11,360
loves loves meaning Kevin. Kevin loves to work with people

743
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,519
who know who they are, and he says like if

744
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:18,920
they would be on NXT tomorrow, they wouldn't be they

745
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,960
wouldn't feel out of place. But then again, this match

746
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:30,840
so entrances. Mike comes out first. It's not clear if

747
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,440
he's a heel of her baby face. He has a

748
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,119
little smile, he's posing towards the crowd, but that's about it.

749
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,440
Lewis comes out second. Is he heel has he faced?

750
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:47,800
Nothing stands out and I wrote down boring entrance, So

751
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,559
at this point I have no clue who's who. I

752
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:53,639
think Mike is a baby face because he looked at

753
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:56,760
the crowd and lifted his arms. But that's my only

754
00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:00,280
that's the only freaking thing they did where I could

755
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,920
go like, oh, I think he's a baby face.

756
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:06,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Harlem. I thought he did have a

757
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:10,000
little bit more nastiness in his gaze, but only a

758
00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:12,280
little bit more because that's sort of his natural look.

759
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 2: You know what they always say, work to the back

760
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,400
of the fucking crowd. People at the back can't see that.

761
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:22,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're right, I mean, and you're right that

762
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:25,719
the entrances didn't really tell any sort of story. Mike

763
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,639
de Ruder still does that same entrance. Maybe the music

764
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,199
is a little bit more peppy, and and he's, you know,

765
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,320
paired with Sean Legacy, who's who's you know, baby face

766
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,920
a lease of the moment. But you're right this, you know,

767
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:42,400
it could have been fifty to fifty or fifty five

768
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:46,199
forty five. It was there was no clear story in that.

769
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:50,760
And if the story was best friend's bitter rivals, okay,

770
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:53,840
but like there should have been then some jaw jacking

771
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,239
and and you know, pointing and some sort of.

772
00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:02,079
Speaker 2: Just feel like the shaking hand but one of them

773
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:04,760
is holding the hand. It is like wink wink, Like

774
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,440
I'm you're my friend, but not today or with something

775
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:08,400
that tells.

776
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: That's their foreheads go next to each other the whole

777
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:12,800
like you know you have the whole thing. Yeah, it's

778
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,159
some of that.

779
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: But the start they had great technical work. Uh. It

780
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,599
showed that they matched on wrestling knowledge. They went into

781
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,679
tackles where no one bumped, which showed that they match

782
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,880
also on size and strength. Ar Limb went for a

783
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:33,639
pie face, kind of defining him as an eel ish

784
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:38,039
and then Mike Poses turns this back to ar Limb

785
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:43,880
and runs and Louis Studd does nothing. I was like, man,

786
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:48,159
you look like a fucking idiot. Like the guy is turning,

787
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,199
you're you're fresh, it's not like you know, you're in

788
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,119
the middle of the match. The guy is kind of

789
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,199
dizzy because he's been bumping, and whenever he's fresh, he's

790
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,119
standing there. Guy turns his back completely and he just

791
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:05,239
stays there and nothing, And I was like.

792
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,519
Speaker 1: Ah, I think he forgot to do what he did

793
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:10,559
the next time, which was grab him by the back

794
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:13,000
of the tights, pull him into the forearm, to the

795
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:15,599
to the kidney, which was actually done well done, but

796
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:17,239
I think he forgot to do it. The first time

797
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,840
and just stood there like a statue.

798
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,199
Speaker 2: Like said, maybe they went into a running spot that

799
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,159
ended like in a very strong tackle where Lewis went

800
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,320
down on one knee, which kind of showed that yes

801
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,679
they're equal, but maybe like Mike has a little bit

802
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,039
more patent to him. So I was like, Okay, that

803
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,440
kind of sells that, but that.

804
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,679
Speaker 1: Could Carlem fell down? Yes, I think it was too

805
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,400
early for that. I think they were still at their

806
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:44,920
even stage before somebody got the on up. So I

807
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,280
think the tate slipped, and I think that Harlem sort

808
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,159
of took it a little bit too harder. Maybe Mike

809
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:54,360
put a little bit too much omph into it.

810
00:48:54,119 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 2: It was like you said, was supposed to grab him

811
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,800
the first time, and he did not, because I felt

812
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,599
this back was turned Mike for.

813
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:07,039
Speaker 1: This was arm though for for for a booker who

814
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,719
in the beginning is is preening like like a peacock

815
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:15,960
going Harlem has benefited from my expert tutelage a quote.

816
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: So yeah that that's actually like the cutoff where Mike

817
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,119
goes for a nuts tackle, turns his back again, but

818
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,079
this time the he'll he'll ish grabs the tight forearms

819
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:29,039
to the back, he brings them in the corner. There's

820
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:32,440
a a little bit of a heat there where Mike uh,

821
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:36,639
Mike fights back and Arlem stopped him with a strong

822
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,679
headlock and then shoots him in the ropes. Again, we

823
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,480
have the first hope spot. It's it was not like

824
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:45,360
really a eat spot. And they were still going back

825
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,920
and forth at this moment of the match. So there's

826
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,639
a leaf frog drop kick, Arlem rolls out, Mike does

827
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:56,559
like an up and over your grona, which is freaking like, uh,

828
00:49:56,599 --> 00:49:58,400
it's impressive.

829
00:49:58,559 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: And.

830
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: Go back inside and he does like a big running

831
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,119
boot and he doesn't go for a pin. I'm like

832
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,440
why why. He looks at the crowd for approval, but

833
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,719
there's no sound because he has no freaking fire. He's

834
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,480
doing moves looking at the fucking floor. So I was like, ahh,

835
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:25,760
it's it's what you see on indie shows and we're

836
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,519
all fucking we've all done it if you're a wrestler.

837
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:33,159
But you're like, fuck, you got a guy like Kevin

838
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:37,119
Owens like teaching you shit, you got Booker, you got babbah,

839
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:43,079
and this is happening. So anyway, he continues where there's

840
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:48,360
well eat, they go back and forth with punches, Lewis bumps,

841
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,280
Mike starts working on the leg. Here's one thing I

842
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,159
really really love there. Though Mike has a babyface, never died.

843
00:50:56,199 --> 00:50:59,000
He was trying to punch, he was pushing, he was pulling,

844
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:02,480
he was trying to get out of that, which babyface

845
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,199
don't do enough. You should never die. Like, yes you're

846
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:07,760
in pain, Yes you gotta sell, you gotta scream, but

847
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:11,559
you're trying to get out of this like show it

848
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,920
like with the body language, and Mike did a great

849
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,679
job there. They went into like to me, reminded me

850
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,079
of the bolla'conno lot, but without the lift. It was

851
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:25,599
the leg crossed the same way with the body on

852
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:30,199
the floor, and the crowd started clapping. Mike fought back

853
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:35,000
with slaps and kicks, and that created separations for him

854
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:39,039
to go into his comeback, which is the good, good

855
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:44,360
old like block punch, block punch, very very good punches.

856
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,320
But the crowd was dead, and you know why because

857
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,280
they had no sympathy for micause it was just a

858
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,400
back and forth match. There was no suffering. Yes, he

859
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,639
got caught into like a leg lock or but not

860
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,639
enough for us to believe that he was in jeopardy.

861
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,000
There was a little bump and feed again with no fire.

862
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:09,920
Mike went for a tear drop soup lex. His knee

863
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:15,519
buckled and he did a nice duck line lariot combo.

864
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,840
No pen, no pin. If you hit the guy with

865
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,760
a fucking laryot, that's like almost like to the point

866
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,800
of like a stan Ansenn lariot the way like fucking

867
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,320
go for a pin, try like you it's it's fucking

868
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,039
It looked great, so but no pin. Ah. Then there

869
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:46,159
Lewis is outside and Mike goes SII moon salt, leans

870
00:52:46,159 --> 00:52:50,360
on his feet and he does He's not selling the

871
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:55,679
leg at all. And you see Kevin Owens go like

872
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:03,280
the sight of disappointment. It was like he throws ar

873
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,119
Lim in the stairs. Then back inside he climbs the

874
00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:13,079
top rope Mike springboard with one leg only, so suddenly

875
00:53:13,159 --> 00:53:16,320
he was selling his leg again, got cut by a

876
00:53:16,679 --> 00:53:19,639
you know, a good shot from mar Lim. Arlem goes

877
00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:24,719
for Jackammer at ten, Mike pushes Lewis going to urkarana

878
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,159
one two, like a jumping your karana when one of

879
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:31,880
your legs is supposed to be kind of dead. Was

880
00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:36,639
I mean they were doing falsees, back and forth finishes

881
00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:41,280
or pen attempts or whatever. So after the kickout from

882
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,239
the Yukana, the ruter picks up Lewis, he gets kicked

883
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,760
in the knee and then we get the Jackammer one

884
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,920
two three.

885
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:55,079
Speaker 1: So I guess what I should add first? Just congratulations

886
00:53:55,079 --> 00:53:58,360
to Harlem Lewis. I mean, the new Men's Evolves champion,

887
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:03,639
so good for him. The only thing that we that

888
00:54:03,679 --> 00:54:07,719
we saw Ko coaching on was to work the leg

889
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,480
and sell that the knee was hurting. It's not an

890
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:17,199
accident that they only showed us that you mentioned the

891
00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:20,519
the Bullmacano lock or whatever. I typed it as an

892
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:23,639
Indian deathlock. I'm sure I'm labeling it wrong, but whatever,

893
00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:26,159
there was, the slaps to get out of that were

894
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:31,239
really weak looking, and for two bulls, those slaps shouldn't

895
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,800
have Those slaps shouldn't have convinced the sub lists to

896
00:54:35,159 --> 00:54:38,519
let a lot uh a hold go let alone one

897
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:39,199
of those guys.

898
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: You know what, It goes back to what I was

899
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,440
saying for Nadan, if you would to slap him a

900
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:48,599
good one like hard and then like Lewis, is is

901
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,119
like what the fuck? The first one he's not really

902
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,119
selling because he's like, what did you just do? And

903
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:58,960
then he goes again bam and then bam like slore,

904
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:02,960
but like on target, it would have been so much better.

905
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,199
And then he starts Lewis lets go, and then he

906
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,440
starts kicking him in the face, but not little kicks,

907
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,960
like one big kick like almost just like he wants

908
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,199
to sweep his freaking face out. And no, it was like, yeah,

909
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,760
little sessives, I say, stuck.

910
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,119
Speaker 1: I've seen the three Stooges slap each other harder than

911
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,480
this was this. This one was like cartoonishly light, like

912
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:28,880
when you know you see like you know, Ethel and

913
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,320
Lucy get into a slap fight on I Love Lucy.

914
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:36,039
For those who can remember that show, the leg injury,

915
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:40,440
sometimes it was there, sometimes it wasn't. And I really

916
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,639
think that took the crowd out of it because he

917
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,360
had to sell it all the time. Granted, like you know,

918
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,800
you hit your leg, you work through or whatever, but

919
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,920
you still limp or give him around a little bit

920
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,719
like he would do it like for a few steps,

921
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,920
then he would ignore it for high flying moves and

922
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,719
it's just and kl you could see it on his

923
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,760
face and he heard it goes to the one thing

924
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,119
I told him to do and he laughs about it.

925
00:56:03,639 --> 00:56:06,280
But you know that was the leg injury was just

926
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,320
ignored too much that it was forgotten for large you

927
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,639
know amounts match what's large, I don't know, fifteen seconds,

928
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:15,559
twenty seconds, forty seconds here, but still it should have

929
00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:18,239
like only been ignored during a hope spot where you

930
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,840
know the babyface is firing up, you know, for a

931
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,519
little bit, and then they pay for it afterwards. You know,

932
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:25,840
you gotta sell it at least reach down, you know,

933
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,639
then your leg a little bit, do a little half

934
00:56:27,639 --> 00:56:31,199
a limp something. They're just it just was too much

935
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:32,440
stop and start.

936
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,199
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is two match before we saw

937
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,559
Bailey selling the leg perfectly and was still selling after

938
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,920
or finish, and every time she got up she was limping.

939
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,679
It's that's the way to do it.

940
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say that the Lewis's finisher his his

941
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,880
his corkscrew slam, basically the boom slangs. He's perfected it

942
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,000
now he's gotta When he first started doing it didn't

943
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,400
look so good. How it really looks good. Bloom points

944
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,800
out there was no emotion inspired out of the crowd.

945
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,199
I completely agree, And then we got what could have

946
00:57:08,199 --> 00:57:11,360
been ominous words from Kevin Owhen saying Mike really is

947
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,679
all the talented world, but he might have trouble taking feedback,

948
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,760
which could have been a great cliffhanger, could have been ominous,

949
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,480
except we've seen Mike de Ruder be on Evolve and

950
00:57:20,519 --> 00:57:23,679
already matriculate up to NXT and be on NXTTV every week.

951
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,639
So again my same complaint the number painting every week,

952
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,599
and I really think it's an impact on the show's

953
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:35,000
success and ratings wise. Where's the tension? Like if you

954
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:37,920
knew there was a new season of Survivor which twelve contestants,

955
00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:41,199
and you already knew six of them weren't gonna make it,

956
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,400
and then you already knew that that four of them,

957
00:57:43,519 --> 00:57:45,840
let's just say they were multiple winners to Survivor, that

958
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,079
four of them at least got to the semi finals,

959
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:50,800
why would you watch it?

960
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: I mean, the tiring of this show is and knowing

961
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,639
that you know this verson's got lego, this person got lego,

962
00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:05,760
or this one is already on NXT and you're like, yeah,

963
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,639
but I see a lot of things that are wrong,

964
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,559
and that I mean, according to my own opinion, of course,

965
00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:17,000
but according to what the coaches are saying, like what

966
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:20,199
they're asking for, it's not there. And then they're on TV.

967
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,679
It's like, are you just telling people that you're giving

968
00:58:24,719 --> 00:58:27,679
them advices? They don't listen, but they get on TV anyway,

969
00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:34,360
which is fucking terrible. But I mean, I love what

970
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,840
mad Bloom said. He said it was a fabulous routine.

971
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:42,920
But that's about it because people, over time, people won't

972
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,960
care about them. You flip once, they will pop. You

973
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:50,119
do it over and over and again. They're gonna people

974
00:58:50,119 --> 00:58:53,559
are gonna become quiet because it's not special anymore. And

975
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,239
I feel like we've seen them a few episodes before.

976
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,599
I feel the crowd was already there. They were quiet.

977
00:59:03,159 --> 00:59:06,760
They need to be loved or hate. And the first

978
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,599
thing we said one they got out, we didn't know

979
00:59:09,639 --> 00:59:12,599
who the fuck was the heal or the babyface. And

980
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,239
of course Matt mentioned that they didn't sell the leg

981
00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:20,239
And you know, going back to what Kevin said that

982
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,920
you know he sees the ruler maybe as you know,

983
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:28,400
having a hard time taking critiques in the future. Then

984
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,199
you see the ruder saying like, oh yeah, the crowd

985
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,480
was beyond us whatever whatever, and I was like, this

986
00:59:35,559 --> 00:59:43,360
is so I don't want to I don't have any

987
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,719
other words, but it's like shindy rific, meaning like it's

988
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,920
something you see a lot of the Indies, and it's

989
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,960
not to put down the Indies. That's where I come

990
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,119
from and that's where I've been all my career and

991
00:59:57,079 --> 01:00:00,480
there's like fucking great talent on the Adizial never see

992
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:03,920
on TV for whatever fucking reasons, but there's so much talent.

993
01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:09,199
But this is something that I see over over and again,

994
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,880
and I see even more today with social media because

995
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,519
they think that if somebody shares their fucking move for

996
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,559
you know, a million times, it's they're fucking great whatever whatever,

997
01:00:22,719 --> 01:00:26,760
But it's it doesn't really mean anything. And the way

998
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,840
the ruler was like, oh my god, the crowd whatever,

999
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:34,719
it's like, you're you hear what you want to hear.

1000
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,880
The fucking truth is that the crowd was dead. Dude,

1001
01:00:38,039 --> 01:00:40,960
it's in your fucking head. Do you know why because

1002
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,119
you heard ooh and ah when you did spots, but

1003
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:48,360
during the match you were not giving them a motion

1004
01:00:48,519 --> 01:00:52,440
and it didn't give a shit about you. And it's

1005
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:57,840
not just him, it's a lot of fucking people. It.

1006
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:02,519
It surprises me that I see that in WWE. I

1007
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:08,519
hope I hope that since then they kinda and when

1008
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:11,280
I say they, it's it's the ruder and then Lewis,

1009
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,159
I hope they kind of got that light and their

1010
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:21,320
brains go and they got the difference between on the

1011
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:26,480
move and uh and people getting behind you because they

1012
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:29,440
want you to fucking kick the heels of ass or

1013
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:32,480
or if you're a heel, they want the babyface to

1014
01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:35,639
beat the ship out of you. There's a difference. I

1015
01:01:35,679 --> 01:01:36,800
hope they see it now.

1016
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:44,639
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about Harlem mm just one man's opinion.

1017
01:01:44,679 --> 01:01:48,880
But the ruter he fits. As a matter of fact,

1018
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,760
he's he's ahead of the curve of you know, most

1019
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,559
of the people you see, especially at that stage in

1020
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,920
X see as he should be. I mean from having a.

1021
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,159
Speaker 2: Second generation wrestler from a promoter, He's been surrounded by

1022
01:02:00,199 --> 01:02:06,000
wrestling and you get a lot of again like you

1023
01:02:06,079 --> 01:02:09,079
get a lot of bad things from the indies, but

1024
01:02:09,159 --> 01:02:12,199
you get so much good. And one thing that he

1025
01:02:12,239 --> 01:02:17,480
has over everybody else is ring time, and just he's

1026
01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:21,239
been in the ring a lot. He knows his ring positioning,

1027
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,239
like he knows where he's at when he bumps, because

1028
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,480
he wasn't there often, like, and he's been wrestling in

1029
01:02:28,599 --> 01:02:32,880
different territories, so he knows how to work with different crowds.

1030
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,880
This is something you can't fucking teach at the PC.

1031
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:39,599
So he has that. And if he just like tweaks

1032
01:02:39,679 --> 01:02:44,280
little things according to what they're asking, what's he's there,

1033
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,159
which you say he did with and I'm I'm like

1034
01:02:47,239 --> 01:02:50,360
thrilled to to though that because he's a fucking talent.

1035
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:54,920
He looks great, and he speaks French and he speaks English,

1036
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,440
so he could do like he could be like a

1037
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,960
mainstay like in many fucking.

1038
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: Placing the rooking around his weakness is by putting him

1039
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,480
in a tag team, so there's there can always be

1040
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:10,920
motions somewhere, even on the outside and and all that,

1041
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,119
and a lot of his acting has to be outside,

1042
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:16,280
you know, waiting for his partner or recovering, and and

1043
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,800
I think that is allowing him to slow things down

1044
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,679
in his mind. And it's funny when you said you're

1045
01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:24,519
hearing things in your head, because I was going to

1046
01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:29,039
use the phrase the soundtracks in your brain? Do uh

1047
01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:31,960
you know you're playing applause? Soundtrack and that's okay. I mean,

1048
01:03:32,119 --> 01:03:34,599
if you don't believe in yourself, who with Bill? But

1049
01:03:34,679 --> 01:03:38,719
you also have to take coaching, which I think that

1050
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,320
although Kevin made an ominous statement, then I think Mike

1051
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,960
has Harlem might take coach. I'm just not sure that

1052
01:03:45,079 --> 01:03:51,880
he has the ability to change. It's almost like he's

1053
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,199
afraid to get out of this zone, out of It's

1054
01:03:56,199 --> 01:03:58,679
almost like he's PJ Voss so that there's there's one

1055
01:03:58,719 --> 01:04:01,800
note and that might be there is to him, but

1056
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,280
PJ Vas I think is playing a role. Like we've

1057
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,960
seen her be like a charming individual, Harlem a little bit.

1058
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,440
We've seen him being like a guys guy, but I

1059
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,400
haven't really seen him be what I really felt was

1060
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,800
a human being. Like so I wonder if like his

1061
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,360
his his life was so damaged that he's he can't

1062
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:19,880
let his dog.

1063
01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: He wasn't he doesn't want to show vulnerability or you know,

1064
01:04:24,199 --> 01:04:28,199
anything else. Then I'm a badass. But yeah, uh, there's

1065
01:04:28,199 --> 01:04:30,880
so much you can do being a badass. Steve Austin

1066
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:34,559
was a fucking badass, but he would suffer. He would scream,

1067
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:38,039
like just just think about the freaking mess with Bret

1068
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:41,639
Hart when he was like, oh, bloody and screaming and pain, Like,

1069
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,840
he's still a fucking badass. He he was even more

1070
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,360
of a badass because he wasn't pain and he was

1071
01:04:48,599 --> 01:04:53,360
bloody screaming, but he fought back. That's why he's a badass,

1072
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:58,159
because through the suffering and the pain and hurting, he

1073
01:04:58,199 --> 01:05:00,559
fucking gets up and beat the shit up the person

1074
01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:07,000
who heard him. Oh fuck, I feel like people don't

1075
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:07,519
get that.

1076
01:05:07,639 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: You.

1077
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:11,599
Speaker 2: There's a wrestler in Quebec. I won't name him. He

1078
01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:16,559
doesn't want to lose, okay, And it's like sometimes like

1079
01:05:16,639 --> 01:05:20,519
oh the crowd is quiet between his matches. It's like, well, dude,

1080
01:05:20,519 --> 01:05:24,159
they never see you lose. They never see you being

1081
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,679
in a You need to be able to relate to

1082
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,880
wrestler to kind of get behind him. If you always

1083
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:37,800
see someone winning, never struggling whatever, it's not real life

1084
01:05:38,039 --> 01:05:43,079
because you struggle, You have obstacles in your life. And

1085
01:05:43,199 --> 01:05:47,039
when somebody you see somebody struggling, because you've been there,

1086
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:49,679
you know how it feels. You want to get behind him.

1087
01:05:49,679 --> 01:05:52,320
It's like you can get up, just do it. Do it.

1088
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,480
If you're always winning, and I know, like in real life,

1089
01:05:55,519 --> 01:05:58,519
I'm not I was like, why would I cheer for you?

1090
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:03,960
I don't give a shit, and so yeah, badass. Yeah,

1091
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:08,960
but a badass goes through trial and tribulations to have

1092
01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:12,760
the fucking badass staple on it. It's not because like

1093
01:06:13,159 --> 01:06:14,320
I look like this one.

1094
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:15,599
Speaker 1: I'm a man's man and.

1095
01:06:15,519 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 2: I train a fucking garage that you know, and you're

1096
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,679
not gonna freaking buy it. And one thing I did

1097
01:06:22,719 --> 01:06:28,320
when Arlen won the Evolve Championship is I didn't go

1098
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,519
and watch the match. I went and read the comments

1099
01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:33,400
of the people and they were like, I don't care

1100
01:06:34,039 --> 01:06:38,599
and whatever because you didn't give him anything to care about.

1101
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,639
You're just out there being a beast and they can't

1102
01:06:41,679 --> 01:06:50,480
relate to you. So Obafemi and Brock Lesner. Fuck Brock

1103
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:53,239
when he got fucking beat up or thrown over the

1104
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,119
top rope, the fucking face and expressions he was doing.

1105
01:06:57,119 --> 01:06:59,519
And this is Rock Lesler. He's a legit fucking guy

1106
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,320
who went to UFC and killed everybody and became a

1107
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:08,400
champion right away. If Brock Listener can look vulnerable and

1108
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:13,159
fucking surprise and like like what the fuck just happened?

1109
01:07:13,199 --> 01:07:16,159
If Rock Listener can and you can't dude, go back

1110
01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:19,440
to the drawing boards, because I'm telling you it's not

1111
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:23,239
Brock that's wrong in this fucking situation, it's you. If

1112
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,440
Brock can do it, you can too, and actually you

1113
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:32,119
must do it. It's like, watch Brock, he's doing.

1114
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: It twenty three. You're not two ninety five, You're not

1115
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:36,239
not prop Yeah.

1116
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,639
Speaker 2: And even oma Femi you see him like struggling, but

1117
01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:40,880
he he fights back and he's still a badass.

1118
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,079
Speaker 1: Right, And even as big as those guys are, like

1119
01:07:45,159 --> 01:07:47,400
they look like human beings, brock Lesner doesn't look like

1120
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,679
a human beings. No, it's like somebody drew a comic

1121
01:07:49,679 --> 01:07:54,800
book character, like like exaggerated. Like anyway, everyone knows about

1122
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,119
my my love Afaraoh brock Lesner in a you know,

1123
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:03,679
in the in this regard. Yeah, well we'll hope for

1124
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,719
better days. You know, I've said that. I think that.

1125
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,519
You know, sometimes I say somebody's plateaued and then they

1126
01:08:09,519 --> 01:08:12,599
get stagnant. For me, Harlem's at the point where he's stagnant.

1127
01:08:13,159 --> 01:08:15,559
Maybe having the title will do some things for him.

1128
01:08:16,399 --> 01:08:20,000
I don't know, but this week I think, you know,

1129
01:08:20,119 --> 01:08:22,359
usually your main event is supposed to be your top match.

1130
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:24,479
I actually think the opening match was by far my

1131
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:30,640
top match. Very impressed with with with the ladies. You know,

1132
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:36,920
you can see the raw material there with Nathan uh

1133
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,840
and and and even Tate. I I think Tate. I

1134
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,039
mean he's got physical skills. I can see why they

1135
01:08:42,079 --> 01:08:44,840
like him. And he's a handsome guy also. And actually,

1136
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:49,319
this this Nathan Tate thing can be a rivalry of

1137
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:52,039
you know, one's the down home, you know, nice handsome

1138
01:08:52,039 --> 01:08:54,159
guy and the other one is the snooty Hans guy.

1139
01:08:54,279 --> 01:08:57,319
And at some point they can become you know, friends

1140
01:08:57,359 --> 01:08:59,880
as enemies and then or friends as heels and then

1141
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,399
friends and faces. I mean I could, I could see

1142
01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:07,920
it all the Ruder I've seen him do better, so

1143
01:09:08,039 --> 01:09:11,640
I know he can do better. And and I fear

1144
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:16,399
for Harlem. They already got brown Breaker, they're developing Keano

1145
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,560
Carter and the ruter who can do things that you

1146
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,439
can't do, but looks like you what's his lane? I mean,

1147
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:24,600
they got big shown.

1148
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,079
Speaker 2: Did you see Bronson Reed lately?

1149
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,159
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I never believed the photos because I

1150
01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:34,000
saw the picture of bmpunk looking like he was Brian Cage.

1151
01:09:34,039 --> 01:09:36,720
I saw him last night looking like he worked out

1152
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,560
for four months I saw the picture of Naya Jackx

1153
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,680
looking like she was one hundred and ten pounds model,

1154
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,319
and I saw her looking last night, still looking like

1155
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:46,399
she's two hundred and thirty pounds. Step of two hundred

1156
01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:49,159
and fifty pounds. Good for her, But that picture was

1157
01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:52,000
not the pic that was that was altered, So the

1158
01:09:52,039 --> 01:09:56,039
pictures of Bronson Reed being built like Zilla photo instead

1159
01:09:56,079 --> 01:09:58,399
of Bronson Reid. First of all, I'm not even sure

1160
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,920
it's a good career move. I mean, get it, but

1161
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,680
how do you do a tsunami when you're when you

1162
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,760
were three fifty and now you're two fifty. I mean,

1163
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,479
it's it's not It's just a splash. All the simoes

1164
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,239
do with splash. So anyway, I'll believe it when i'll

1165
01:10:11,239 --> 01:10:16,960
see it. You know, a smaller bronze and with his

1166
01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:19,840
personality is fungible.

1167
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 2: Only time will tell, my friend.

1168
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 1: Only time will tell. And and none of them are

1169
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:31,119
on LFG Zila might be one day. So anyway, Yeah,

1170
01:10:31,159 --> 01:10:34,199
but but I I enjoyed the episode. I thought it

1171
01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:37,199
was I thought that we've had two good TV episodes

1172
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,479
in a row. I'm very happy about that. And that's

1173
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,479
also happened with MLW last two weeks, the two good

1174
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:43,720
TV episodes in a row.

1175
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:48,239
Speaker 2: Very happy, sweet sweet sweet uh yeah. Same. Overall, it's

1176
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:51,399
about the episode, like I enjoyed it, when by when

1177
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,439
it goes by fast like usually it's a good sign.

1178
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,520
And we didn't get anything from I don't know if

1179
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,239
you did on your side in the States, but I

1180
01:10:59,239 --> 01:11:02,079
didn't get anything from the next episode. There was no preview,

1181
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:04,720
I don't nothing, I don't have a title to give you.

1182
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:09,520
Speaker 1: Not went straight into Rivals or whatever, the night legends

1183
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,880
or whatever. The next thing is My only complaint with

1184
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:17,159
this show is I wanted more Bloom. I wanted to

1185
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:18,239
hear more from Bloom.

1186
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they should give us like a little glimpse

1187
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:26,399
of what's next, so they peak your interest, because if

1188
01:11:27,079 --> 01:11:30,319
if you're a fan too end up like you're flipping

1189
01:11:30,359 --> 01:11:33,159
the channels and it's oh, that's wrestling, that's new, and

1190
01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:36,159
you like it, and then it just ends. It's like

1191
01:11:36,359 --> 01:11:38,479
you don't even know if there's one next week or whatever.

1192
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,520
But at least if there's a little something next week

1193
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,000
on LFG, blah blah blahs, like oh fuck, okay, I

1194
01:11:43,079 --> 01:11:45,279
like what I saw him. I'm gonna watch it again.

1195
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,159
Speaker 1: But you know what's words they wait. I don't know

1196
01:11:48,199 --> 01:11:49,960
if you got it in candle, but in the States,

1197
01:11:50,359 --> 01:11:53,079
around the midpoint of LFG, we got a regular TV

1198
01:11:53,159 --> 01:11:57,279
commercial for for LFG. You're already watching it. It's like

1199
01:11:57,319 --> 01:11:59,800
you could have taken that same time and done previews.

1200
01:12:00,039 --> 01:12:04,399
We're still next week and we're in We're now covering

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01:12:04,399 --> 01:12:08,279
week twelve. Episode thirteen drops tonight. It's Sunday in real life.

1202
01:12:09,079 --> 01:12:11,239
Like this is like a fourteen or fifteen week season,

1203
01:12:11,279 --> 01:12:15,439
So there's there's nobody trying to build whatever story they're

1204
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,399
trying to manufacture to what happens at the end, What

1205
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,399
happens to the end of the show. What are they

1206
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,920
fighting for? Because we've already seen three or four people

1207
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,640
get some type of contract, so like at least keep

1208
01:12:27,239 --> 01:12:28,880
It's like I sort of feel like the lack of

1209
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,199
coming attractions as they've sort of given up the This

1210
01:12:31,399 --> 01:12:35,560
format is a foul or. And again it just could

1211
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,960
have been sold by even if you had your you

1212
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,399
were absolutely going to release all of these people. Just

1213
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:46,479
wait four months. I mean, somebody the network, what is

1214
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,159
A and E or AMC whoever they are. They're paying

1215
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:51,399
you money for it. That's got to cover the four

1216
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,319
months that you're paying all these PC and NXT talents.

1217
01:12:54,399 --> 01:12:58,279
Come on, folks, like, why be so shortsighted? I mean,

1218
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:03,640
the WWE universe is not that devoted. Your your SmackDown

1219
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:08,800
is getting TNA on Spike ratings now, So I mean

1220
01:13:09,039 --> 01:13:14,079
these are just easy fixes and unforced errors for goat.

1221
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 2: I was listening to a podcast this afternoon and they

1222
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:23,920
were like, it's almost like they put more time in

1223
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,800
doing whatever backstage stuff they're doing, whether it is LFG

1224
01:13:29,119 --> 01:13:34,800
or Unreal whatever, than the actual creative of the wrest

1225
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:40,720
League show itself, because it's so blood like it's like

1226
01:13:41,039 --> 01:13:43,920
they plan everything so it ends up on Unreal or

1227
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,680
maybe like they're kind of doing the same thing with

1228
01:13:47,359 --> 01:13:50,520
LFG where it's like, okay, but we gotta show how

1229
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,720
this guy gets from LFG to NXT and there's no

1230
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,760
competition anymore whatever, it's just like how to get better.

1231
01:13:58,319 --> 01:14:04,399
I prefer the way the coaches are teaching. I love

1232
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:09,199
all the advices they're they're uh they're giving, which is

1233
01:14:10,039 --> 01:14:11,880
I'll say it again, if you're wrestler, you should be

1234
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,159
watching NXT because uh, not a n XT LFG, because

1235
01:14:15,319 --> 01:14:19,079
it's it's free fucking coaching. Uh, there's great advice that there.

1236
01:14:19,399 --> 01:14:24,079
That's something I prefer from the previous season. I love

1237
01:14:24,119 --> 01:14:26,760
that we see the coaches in the ring with them

1238
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,960
and explaining shit. It just like last week the way

1239
01:14:30,279 --> 01:14:33,720
Booker T was explaining how to do a slam and

1240
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:38,439
giving like the right to thing like the advice. How

1241
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,359
it change everything for Ank and Tank, who are like

1242
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:48,239
former nxt UH tag team champions, so champions. Yeah that too,

1243
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,840
so it's like you can always learn. That's that's something

1244
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:57,079
I I love, love, love from the season. But yeah,

1245
01:14:57,159 --> 01:14:59,560
I mean it's it's cool that you're focusing on giving

1246
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:05,319
us whatever's happening backstage, but they need to give us. Yeah,

1247
01:15:05,359 --> 01:15:09,640
like how how what's the end of this How what's

1248
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:15,760
the the goal or what's the big like something that's

1249
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,319
gonna happen. So oh fuck, I want another I need

1250
01:15:18,399 --> 01:15:22,880
another season now. It's just I watch it. I enjoy it.

1251
01:15:23,039 --> 01:15:26,760
But I don't know if I wasn't doing the show

1252
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,600
with you, if I would automatically watch it every week

1253
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,199
because again i'm watching, I enjoy, but you're not giving

1254
01:15:33,239 --> 01:15:37,560
me anything for next week. So uh, if I wouldn't

1255
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,479
write it down, I would probably forget about it because

1256
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,199
I don't have anything like, oh my god, I want

1257
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:43,880
to see this, so I have to tune in.

1258
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,359
Speaker 1: It's about the friends we make along the wailafast.

1259
01:15:47,039 --> 01:15:49,119
Speaker 2: It is but a journey.

1260
01:15:50,079 --> 01:15:52,039
Speaker 1: I don't blame you, and don't even get me started

1261
01:15:52,079 --> 01:15:54,560
on some of the laziness and some of the stupidle booking.

1262
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,279
And I have always said, I know when everybody was

1263
01:15:57,319 --> 01:16:00,640
on Triple H's bandwagon, which I enjoyd some of this

1264
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,000
stuff too, but I said, listen, I watched closely, and

1265
01:16:04,039 --> 01:16:07,119
I'm a nitpicker by nature. And he has some of

1266
01:16:07,159 --> 01:16:10,479
the the he also has the worst tendencies events, and

1267
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,560
he's got the worst tendencies of Tony Kahan. Sometimes when

1268
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,079
he gets things in the middle, it's just right. And

1269
01:16:16,079 --> 01:16:18,199
we're getting some of that, and he and and he

1270
01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:20,680
still does and they're both both promotions are in the

1271
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,600
same trap of having monthly ples and when there's a

1272
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,920
Saturday night's main event, they've got yet another sort of

1273
01:16:26,079 --> 01:16:28,800
super show or super al show that they have to do.

1274
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:33,920
And it's very difficult to actually tell stories, and trilogies

1275
01:16:34,039 --> 01:16:36,600
now are rare, or they have to or they're done

1276
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,880
in like seventy five days. Instead of nine months and

1277
01:16:40,359 --> 01:16:42,760
so everything, Yeah, everything.

1278
01:16:42,399 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 2: Fills last minute.

1279
01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: And I don't and I don't give the excuses of

1280
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,720
it's after wrestlemany it's the summer slow. I don't. You're

1281
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,039
getting paid almost a billion dollars from TV companies in

1282
01:16:55,079 --> 01:16:59,760
America alone, plus all the other money that you're getting.

1283
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,760
It's fifty two. There's no excuses. Work all year round.

1284
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,199
If you need to rotate in writers like you do,

1285
01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:09,560
wrestlers by all means do so, you know, may five

1286
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:14,439
of them. Yeah, I do not buy any of the excuses.

1287
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:19,800
You're getting too much money for those excuses. Then again

1288
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:24,359
they keep getting resigned. But maybe the summer Slam ticket

1289
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,039
sales maybe that. And I know people said, oh they

1290
01:17:27,039 --> 01:17:29,199
got a lot of they got like five thousand tickets

1291
01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:35,199
sold for MSG last night sarrus Man event, But Madison

1292
01:17:35,239 --> 01:17:37,279
Square Garden seats like twenty one thousand, they had like

1293
01:17:37,279 --> 01:17:40,439
fifteen thousand or sixteen thousand. And that's New York City.

1294
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,840
I don't care the summer, but there was fanatics vest

1295
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,439
there and it's New York City. You can't fill up

1296
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,720
New York City for a show with Cody Rhoads and

1297
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,119
Sea and punk on it the Roman reigns there and

1298
01:17:52,159 --> 01:17:56,159
all and and a bunch of the Knicks, there's there's

1299
01:17:56,199 --> 01:17:57,039
trouble in Paradise.

1300
01:17:57,159 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. I It's something I mentioned on

1301
01:18:00,199 --> 01:18:03,239
X this week and I'll say it again. Wrestling has

1302
01:18:03,279 --> 01:18:06,880
always been for the common men who works the regular

1303
01:18:07,119 --> 01:18:11,439
job and has a regular pay and uses wrestling as

1304
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,920
an escape. And it's always been something he could afford.

1305
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,520
Now to get a fucking tickets, it's a two week pay,

1306
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,880
So fuck it, you're they're not doing And I include

1307
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,600
myself in there, not going not gonna pay two weeks

1308
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,840
of fucking hard work when I need to pay my

1309
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,399
mortgage and bills and my car and my cats. And

1310
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,840
if you have kids and oh and I mean, if

1311
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,560
you have kids, you want to bring your kids on,

1312
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,880
you're gonna pay what eighte hundred dollars to be sitting

1313
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:46,479
rien time. No, Like it's ridiculous, Like they keep thinking

1314
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,760
that it's gonna be like boxing or whatever. It's never

1315
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:56,199
been this way. That's something Vince Senior and Junior new

1316
01:18:56,399 --> 01:19:02,960
and understood and you're like, whatever, that is what it is.

1317
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,800
I mean, that could be a whole other show.

1318
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: So anyway, and it is and it's called wrestling Soup.

1319
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 2: Wrestling soup. So I'll give wrestling Soup some love. We

1320
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:17,760
think Joey, we think our mish. Follow the Wrestling Suit

1321
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:22,359
on YouTube. I'll subscribe to their patreons, give them some good, good,

1322
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:26,920
good money. And if you want to find us online,

1323
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,319
you know, just look at the description. All our links

1324
01:19:30,319 --> 01:19:34,680
are there for Jeff and I, whether it's x, Instagram, YouTube,

1325
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,359
all that good stuff. Now it's easier. Just go in

1326
01:19:37,359 --> 01:19:39,399
the description and click.

1327
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:40,399
Speaker 1: That's it.

1328
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's wonderful. Do you have anything coming up in

1329
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,319
the next few days?

1330
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if you haven't gone enough for me. I

1331
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,439
was on the White Heat podcast. It was sort of

1332
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,520
a watch along for science main event, but I was

1333
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,880
there for an hour and a half. I got out

1334
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,199
at the during the Bailey Lyra match, which I like

1335
01:19:58,279 --> 01:20:00,640
quite a bit, and then I jumped to too Wrestling

1336
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,640
super Friendo's own Soup de Jore on the on their

1337
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,640
YouTube live show, and we went for about two hours

1338
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,800
and twenty minutes. I think it was probably their best

1339
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:12,039
show ever because I was there. No, well, yes, so

1340
01:20:12,079 --> 01:20:13,479
that was fun. If you want to check that out.

1341
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,479
It's also on Wrestling Superfriendos on the audio. I did

1342
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:20,600
a Garden of Thought today with Alex Coquito of the

1343
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,880
podcast with the Unappreciated Wrestling Fan and the Evolve Effect

1344
01:20:24,119 --> 01:20:30,479
on the Wrestling super and Friendo's Feet and U and

1345
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,840
the MLW files on the Sports Jedi Media Network with

1346
01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:37,399
my best friend mister Thomas. Sorry, lefister, you're a girl.

1347
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:42,399
You can't be best friend, and uh, you know what

1348
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,279
else I'm keeping busy. Next Sunday, my guest on gardener

1349
01:20:45,359 --> 01:20:49,840
Thought is Professor John F. White, probably the foremost Indo

1350
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,920
European mythologist in the world. I don't even remember what

1351
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,840
the topic is, but it probably should be the Odyssey

1352
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,760
talking about that somewhat, and I've been chewing a zero

1353
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,479
off about the Odyssey about some of my theories about

1354
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,760
the Ossy, and it turns out that I learned that

1355
01:21:08,279 --> 01:21:13,439
there's actual scholars who support my theory. Of course it's

1356
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,680
their theory, but I didn't know they existed until recently.

1357
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,760
So I'm not saying I invent things, but I've come

1358
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,600
up with a lot of things on my own that

1359
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,479
it turns out that actually people who are PhDs and

1360
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,159
ship and spend their lives studying these things actually have

1361
01:21:27,359 --> 01:21:30,640
agreed with. So yeah, I'm pretty barry HOWITTZ proud of

1362
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,000
myself and that anyway talking too much.

1363
01:21:33,079 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: I slept the back. So don't forget. If you have

1364
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,359
any comments to leave us, leave us your comments. We

1365
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,640
love to read. You are just follow us, you know,

1366
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,479
on our socials and let us know it. And just

1367
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,000
like mantra man is that on exce this week? If

1368
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,279
you have any if you notice anything that relates TOALFG,

1369
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:56,479
send us a little message. We love it and well

1370
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,439
we will. You will hear from us our next episode

1371
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:07,279
when we cover episode Lucky thirteen, where's Zena? Is it

1372
01:22:07,359 --> 01:22:13,119
a new Zena? Well, until then, buy them pride and

1373
01:22:13,119 --> 01:22:15,520
but a minute to buy them fright, but a minute, Jo,

1374
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,359
Stay on my O fiocus friends