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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Killer in the Code Solving the Black

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<v Speaker 1>Dalia and Zodiac Cases. I'm Michael Connolly and this is

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<v Speaker 1>chapter six. I want to begin today with a mini

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<v Speaker 1>profile the killer this podcast is focused on. This is

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<v Speaker 1>taken from the official records of the investigation. The crime

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<v Speaker 1>would indicate a person, to my estimation, who had a

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<v Speaker 1>mania for publicity. They wanted to gloat over the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they have been successful in their crime and got

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<v Speaker 1>a kick out of it. Okay, so I think I

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<v Speaker 1>know what you were thinking. That's got to come from

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<v Speaker 1>the Zodiac case files, right, He's the one who wrote

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<v Speaker 1>all the letters to the newspapers and authored the tantalizing ciphers, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>Etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, and no, you could call it an early

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<v Speaker 1>profile of the Zodiac, but it's actually from the sworn

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<v Speaker 1>testimony of the lead detective in the Black Dahlia case,

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<v Speaker 1>spoken to a grand jury in nineteen fifty, almost twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years before the Zodiac killings took place, and the self

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<v Speaker 1>proclaimed Zodiac began using publicity to gloat and taunt the

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<v Speaker 1>public and to hold it in the grip of fear.

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<v Speaker 1>A mania for publicity. That detective certainly got that right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Are people who think these cases are so dramatically different

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<v Speaker 1>they could never be linked, but on a psychological level

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<v Speaker 1>they are much more the same than not. And today

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to reveal as best we can, the

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<v Speaker 1>man who is behind all these crimes. Marvin Margolis aka

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<v Speaker 1>Marvin Merrill, among many other names, the man who wrote

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<v Speaker 1>the letters and constructed the ciphers, the man who was

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<v Speaker 1>a cipher himself. A quick recap here Alex Baber, Citizen Slewice,

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<v Speaker 1>an amateur cryptologist, broke Disease thirteen code, the thirteen characters

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<v Speaker 1>said to reveal the name of the Zodiac Killer, but

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<v Speaker 1>also thought to be unbreakable for more than a half

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<v Speaker 1>a century. The name hidden in the code was Marvin Merrill,

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<v Speaker 1>the primary alias adopted by Marvin Margolis after he was

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<v Speaker 1>identified more than twenty years earlier as a suspect in

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<v Speaker 1>the murder of Elizabeth Short, better known as the Black Dallion.

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<v Speaker 1>Baber's methodology and solution to Z thirteen has been independently

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed by some of the top cryptanalysts in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Other evidence gathered by Baber and a team of veteran

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<v Speaker 1>cold case detectives has been documented in the previous episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of this podcast. The bottom line is Margolis, who died

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety three, checked all the boxes, and now

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<v Speaker 1>we want to attempt to track his movement across time

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<v Speaker 1>and geography. It's not an easy task. Margolis at times

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<v Speaker 1>is a bit of a ghost. He changed names and

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<v Speaker 1>moved about like a man looking over his shoulder to

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<v Speaker 1>see who might be on his trail.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Alex Baber.

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<v Speaker 3>His own family would call him Skippy because he would

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<v Speaker 3>skip out for long periods of time that he'd be

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<v Speaker 3>unaccounted for. The Skippy nickname was obviously a player on

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<v Speaker 3>his middle name, skip Day.

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<v Speaker 1>He also changed occupations and careers as often as he

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<v Speaker 1>moved geographically. At various times, he was an artist, an

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<v Speaker 1>auto mechanic, an engineer, an insurance salesman, a car racing promoter,

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<v Speaker 1>a computer programmer, and an urban planner. His son called

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<v Speaker 1>him a serial entrepreneur, with most of his endeavors seeing

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<v Speaker 1>very little success.

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<v Speaker 3>It appears that he did many things, but he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>good at any of thom Throughout the years, in decades,

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<v Speaker 3>he would often change his expertise or field of employment.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of them. Members told me that you know a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of stuff that he did, He taught himself, and

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<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't stay long within that field of expertise.

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<v Speaker 1>This is veteran homicide detective of Rick Jackson.

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<v Speaker 4>My initial thoughts on his moving around a lot as

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<v Speaker 4>well as the changing of names. The first of all,

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<v Speaker 4>the moving around the lot. There are people that do that.

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<v Speaker 4>There are people that are lost, they can't find jobs,

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<v Speaker 4>they go from one place to another. That's one thing,

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<v Speaker 4>but when you couple that with constantly changing names, then

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<v Speaker 4>it brings it to a higher level of concern about

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<v Speaker 4>why that's being done. That's a quick patty answer, but

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's my reaction to what we see with Margolis

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<v Speaker 4>slash meow.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to changing names as he moved, Margolis also

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<v Speaker 1>appropriated the histories of others will embellishing his own. The

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<v Speaker 1>biggest task here was trying to determine what was real

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<v Speaker 1>about Marvin Margolis.

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<v Speaker 2>And what was not.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing we know for sure is that he was

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<v Speaker 1>born in Chicago to immigrant parents. In nineteen twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>his own father changed his name from Isaac Margolands to

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<v Speaker 1>is A we Are Margolis, something that many immigrants do,

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<v Speaker 1>but it early on exposed Marvin Margolis to the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that identity was malleable. Before we go on here, let

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<v Speaker 1>me say that the timeline and the biographic details we

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<v Speaker 1>have put together here come from official records, newspaper articles,

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<v Speaker 1>and interviews with members of Margolis's family. We have agreed

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<v Speaker 1>not to name members of the family in exchange for

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<v Speaker 1>their cooperation. Margolis enrolled at the University of Illinois in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty two, but left after one semester with failing grades.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, the country is in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a world war, and in nineteen forty three, Margolis walked

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<v Speaker 1>into a Navy recruiting office in Chicago and joined up.

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<v Speaker 1>He was trained as a corpsman and sent overseas to

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<v Speaker 1>the battle in the Pacific. He was attached as a

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<v Speaker 1>medic to the marine battalion that made the first landing

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<v Speaker 1>on the island of Okinawa. What ensued was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the bloodiest and costliest battles of the war. Over ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand American soldiers died on Oakanalwa. We documented Margois's time

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<v Speaker 1>there in chapter one of the podcast, but suffice it

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<v Speaker 1>to say his experiences there, including one near death experience

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, was harrowing. Upon returning from the war. He

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<v Speaker 1>was given a fifty percent disability for mental neurosis what

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<v Speaker 1>would now be diagnosed as post traumatic stress disorder. Family

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<v Speaker 1>members have told us he was treated for this the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of his life and.

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<v Speaker 2>He was put on medication.

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<v Speaker 3>And we discovered through the family members that when he

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<v Speaker 3>would disappear for these lengthy periods of time, they would

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<v Speaker 3>reach out to his younger brother, Milton, who lived in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 3>who had a connection at the local BA and what

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<v Speaker 3>he would do, apparently was contact this connection and he

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<v Speaker 3>would look up where the last description was filled, and

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<v Speaker 3>then Milton would hunt Marvin Dowell and ask him, what

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing. You have a family about legations, You

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<v Speaker 3>needed needed to get back to where you belong.

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<v Speaker 1>This is MITCHI. Roberts, veteran homicide detective and former supervisor

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<v Speaker 1>of the LAPD cold case unit.

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<v Speaker 5>All you have to really do is review the testimony

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<v Speaker 5>at the grand jury as well as a review, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>any of his documents that came out of his time

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<v Speaker 5>at the war to know that you know, what he

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<v Speaker 5>saw over Okinawa was the worst of the worst, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think they've been mentioned mingled bodies, and you know

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<v Speaker 5>he was working in the medical.

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<v Speaker 3>Field, so he saw them up.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't just seen your buddy, you know here get

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<v Speaker 5>you know, severely injured. He's actually trying to save lives.

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<v Speaker 5>And from everything I've read, he came back from that

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<v Speaker 5>war just a damaged man, for sure, mentally just damaged.

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<v Speaker 1>Margos landed in Los Angeles after the war, and in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty six enrolled at the University of Southern California

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<v Speaker 1>as a pre med student. During a grand jury investigation

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<v Speaker 1>that would delve into the Black Value case. Four years later,

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<v Speaker 1>it was revealed by the deputy district attorney who led

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<v Speaker 1>the probe that Margois had taken part in a body

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<v Speaker 1>dissection just months before Elizabeth Short's bisective body was found.

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<v Speaker 1>We could find no independent confirmation of this. While it

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<v Speaker 1>was unlikely that a pre med student would have a

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<v Speaker 1>class in which cadavers were dissected, Margolis's wartime experiences may

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<v Speaker 1>have opened doors at USC for him to take part

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<v Speaker 1>in what was likely something reserved for more advanced to

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<v Speaker 1>med students. As one of his veterans, administration evaluators reported

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<v Speaker 1>in giving him the mental disability, he had dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>many quote mangled.

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<v Speaker 2>Bodies on Okinawa.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, Margolis was attending classes at the time he

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<v Speaker 1>had a res relationship with Elizabeth Short, and subsequently when

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<v Speaker 1>she was found murdered on January fifteenth, nineteen forty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point Margous changed his focus and started pursuing

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<v Speaker 1>a pharmacy degree. Records show that in nineteen forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>he was elected as an officer in the Pharmacy School's

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<v Speaker 1>service organization. A transcript of his grades from that year

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<v Speaker 1>showed him to have been a good student, getting mostly

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<v Speaker 1>a's in pre med and pharmacy classes and only won

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<v Speaker 1>C in piochemistry. Curiously, he had registered at the school

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<v Speaker 1>under the name Marvin Henry Margolis. His actual middle name

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<v Speaker 1>was Skipton, and this is the earliest point where we

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<v Speaker 1>see him.

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<v Speaker 2>Engage in identity deception.

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<v Speaker 1>Margolis was in the class of forty nine, but he

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<v Speaker 1>apparently didn't finish at USC. Instead, he left town and

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<v Speaker 1>picked up a degree in commerce from Roosevelt College in

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<v Speaker 1>his hometown of Chicago. Why did he leave town and

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<v Speaker 1>change schools? At the time, it had been two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years since the murder of Elizabeth Short, and

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<v Speaker 1>no arrests had been made in the case. Early on

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<v Speaker 1>in that investigation, Margois had been interviewed twice by the police,

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<v Speaker 1>and though he initially lied about his relationship with Elizabeth Short,

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<v Speaker 1>he offered an alibi that his new wife confirmed. Phinnis Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>the lead detective on the case, would later testify that

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<v Speaker 1>it was impossible to throw him out as a suspect,

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<v Speaker 1>it was impossible to tie him in. But nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine was also when a new police chief took the

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<v Speaker 1>reins at the Los Angeles Police Department. William Morton was

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<v Speaker 1>a hard charging former marine who declared in a widely

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<v Speaker 1>publicized media statement that the Black Dalley investigation had been

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<v Speaker 1>run poorly and been bungled by the original team on it.

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<v Speaker 1>He called for a grand jury investigation of the murder

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<v Speaker 1>to refocus the case, but by the time that grand

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<v Speaker 1>jury was impaneled that year, Margolis was gone. Investigators with

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<v Speaker 1>the grand jury tried to find him and enlisted the

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<v Speaker 1>help of the Chicago Police Department, but to no avail.

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis Brown was left to testify that Margolis was quote

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<v Speaker 1>possibly a very good suspect. How diligently authorities searched for

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<v Speaker 1>Margolis in Chicago is not clear, but they missed their chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Three years later, when he was working in Chicago as

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<v Speaker 1>a used car salesman and was charged with defrauding customers

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<v Speaker 1>by tricking them into paying higher prices than agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>for their car. Margois avoided jail time and the apparent

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<v Speaker 1>notice of the LAPD by paying a fine and restitution

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<v Speaker 1>to several customers. But it was at this point that

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<v Speaker 1>he left town once again, and when he re emerged,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a new profession and.

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<v Speaker 2>A new name.

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<v Speaker 1>He was now in Atlanta and he set up shop

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<v Speaker 1>as Marvin Merrill, insurance salesman. Merrill spent at least three

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<v Speaker 1>years in Atlanta and even started a side gig, which

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<v Speaker 1>was an auto club for teenagers. He corded membership and

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<v Speaker 1>publicity with the inclusion of a NASCAR racing champion named

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Flock as a partner. But eventually Merrill moved on

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<v Speaker 1>from Georgia and made even shorter stops in Ohio and

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona before landing in Kansas. By this time, his first

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<v Speaker 1>marriage was over and he reinvented himself once again, this

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<v Speaker 1>time as an artist and an art dealer in the

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<v Speaker 1>small town of Wellington, thirty eight miles south of Wichita.

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<v Speaker 1>He was now known as Skip Meryll, and a profile

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<v Speaker 1>of the artists that ran in the local newspaper offered

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<v Speaker 1>some insight into how Meryll blended fact and fiction into

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<v Speaker 1>a new PERSONA paper reported that he had studied under

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<v Speaker 1>Salvador Dolly, the master of surrealism at USC. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of realism from Dolly. Merrill was quoted as saying,

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<v Speaker 1>he paints the clock. It may be distorted, but it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a clock. The Baber team found no evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that Dolly ever taught painting or lectured at USC, so

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<v Speaker 1>the record is clear that Dolly was in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>at the time Merrill, as Margolis, attended USC. Perhaps what

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<v Speaker 1>News is Merrill's embellishment of his war record. Here was

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<v Speaker 1>Marines on Okinawa, one of the bloodiest and most important

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<v Speaker 1>battles of World War Two. He could talk about building

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<v Speaker 1>a field hospital in a cave on that island, but

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<v Speaker 1>apparently that wasn't good enough for him. Instead, he told

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<v Speaker 1>the newspaper that he had been a member of the

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<v Speaker 1>Flying Tigers, the legendary group of pilots who flew missions

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<v Speaker 1>over China during the war. Why did he lie? It

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<v Speaker 1>almost seems to me as though Merrill used the newspaper

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<v Speaker 1>profile to leave hands or clues about the Black Dahlia case.

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<v Speaker 1>He told the newspaper that he had been a newspaper correspondent,

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<v Speaker 1>but the truth was the only correspondence was his courting

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<v Speaker 1>the media in Atlanta and his letters and phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>to the Los Angeles newspapers as the Black Dahlia Avenger.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the mentions of the Flying Tigers and Salvador Dali.

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<v Speaker 1>The reference to the legendary air squadron seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a direct reference to Elizabeth Short and her lost fiance.

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<v Speaker 1>During the war, she was engaged to pilot Matt Gordon,

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<v Speaker 1>who flew missions over China and was credited with shooting

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<v Speaker 1>down five Japanese planes in aerial dogfights. Those plans tragically

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<v Speaker 1>changed when Gordon was killed in a plane crash in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty five. Was it Gealousy that made merilynbellish his

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<v Speaker 1>record or was he intentionally dropping a clue into the story.

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<v Speaker 3>He was indeed a war hero in his own account right.

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<v Speaker 3>He's on the front lines as a naval corman. He's

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<v Speaker 3>out there attempting to rescue people. You know, he's tending

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<v Speaker 3>to be wounded, and he comes back and then you

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<v Speaker 3>have this fourteen year gap between the time the murder

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<v Speaker 3>of Elizabeth Swore took place in the time he did

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<v Speaker 3>this interview in well it was in Kansas, and instead

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<v Speaker 3>of just saying I was a naval corman on the

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<v Speaker 3>front line and said, you know, held a medical unit

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<v Speaker 3>and took care of my comrades, you know, under fire,

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<v Speaker 3>he injects this stolen valor as we call it, where

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<v Speaker 3>he's a Flying Tiger, which is a very unique unit

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<v Speaker 3>during World War Two. There's no reason for him to

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<v Speaker 3>claim to be a Flying Tiger as rare as that

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<v Speaker 3>you know unit was, and for it to be directly

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<v Speaker 3>connected to Elizabeth Short through her only fiance, Matt Gordon,

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<v Speaker 3>is a very unique and obvious connection that he's making

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<v Speaker 3>to Elizabeth and himself. In my opinion, that's a dirty deed.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something, you know, that's him being jealous. That's him

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<v Speaker 3>and having some kind of envy towards towards Matt, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and his relationship with Elizabeth long before he knew her.

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<v Speaker 3>That's obsession.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dolly was a surrealistic painter, while Merrill said he

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<v Speaker 1>was a realistic painter. His work was even described as

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<v Speaker 1>being closer to the impressionist master of Benson van God

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<v Speaker 1>than Dolly. But Dolly created several paintings that depicted women

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<v Speaker 1>in ways similar to the Black Dahalia crime scene. Was

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<v Speaker 1>Merrill hinting that he was influenced by Dolly as a

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<v Speaker 1>killer or a painter? These are a questions that obviously

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<v Speaker 1>can't be answered. You can take a look at some

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<v Speaker 1>of Dolly's work on the Killer and the Code website.

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<v Speaker 1>Though in the newspaper profile, Meryll said he was so

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by Kansas that he could paint there forever. Things

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<v Speaker 1>soured for him when a local art association he had

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<v Speaker 1>created split into two factions and voted in new leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>Merrill once again packed his bags. This time he headed west,

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<v Speaker 1>back to California. Merrill landed in the town of Oceanside

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<v Speaker 1>in San Diego County in early nineteen sixty two. On

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<v Speaker 1>an evening, shortly after his arrival, a man called the

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<v Speaker 1>police department anonymously and said he was about to commit

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<v Speaker 1>a crime that would baffle the police and never be solved.

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<v Speaker 1>The next night, a taxi cab driver named Raymond Davis

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<v Speaker 1>was shot to death in his cab and his body

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<v Speaker 1>was dumped in an alley behind the mayor's house. The

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<v Speaker 1>cab was later found abandoned fifteen blocks away. The next night,

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<v Speaker 1>the anonymous man called the police again. He took credit

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<v Speaker 1>for the murder of Davis and said he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot a bus driver next. This, in turn gripped

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<v Speaker 1>the community and fear, and marines from a nearby military

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<v Speaker 1>base were used to ride in buses and taxis for

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<v Speaker 1>added security. The murder of Davis, the dumping of his

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<v Speaker 1>body behind the mayor's house, and the subsequent threat to

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<v Speaker 1>kill a bus driver drew massive media attention, seemingly underlying

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<v Speaker 1>the unknown killer's mania for publicity. To use a phrase

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<v Speaker 1>from the Black Dahia Killer's profile. Eight years after the

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<v Speaker 1>Davis murder, the killing of San Francisco cab driver Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Stein by the Zodiac would draw comparisons, but like the

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<v Speaker 1>Sherry Joe Bates case in Riverside, that Davis killing was

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<v Speaker 1>never formally declared a Zodiac case. Perhaps it was because

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<v Speaker 1>authorities did not know what we can now reveal. On

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<v Speaker 1>the night Davis was murdered in Oceanside. His killer abandoned

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<v Speaker 1>his cab in the four hundred block of Pacific Street,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an eight hundred foot walk to the house

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<v Speaker 1>on Elm Street where Marvin Merrill was living following his

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<v Speaker 1>recent move from Kansas.

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<v Speaker 3>I do believe that paul Stein was, in a likelihood

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<v Speaker 3>a piece of a puzzle to connect him back to

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<v Speaker 3>his earlier letter of Ray Davis.

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<v Speaker 4>It does make sense paul Stein was the first.

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<v Speaker 6>It was such a brazen attack because it was done

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<v Speaker 6>right in the middle of a major city in front

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<v Speaker 6>of people.

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<v Speaker 2>He walked away.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a brazen attack, and I think that was

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<v Speaker 6>done intentionally to shake things up a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 6>why not shake things up a little bit by doing

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<v Speaker 6>something that you've done before in nineteen sixty two with

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<v Speaker 6>the cab driver or in ocean Side. Why not do

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<v Speaker 6>the same thing again. It could be part of the

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<v Speaker 6>game wondering, Okay, are they're gonna be able to put

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<v Speaker 6>this all together? That it's need the Zodiac working before

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<v Speaker 6>I became the Zodiac, and then seven years later you

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<v Speaker 6>do the paul Stein case to bring it right back

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<v Speaker 6>into your new hunting grounds, if you will.

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<v Speaker 5>It just kind of proves that this guy evolves in

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<v Speaker 5>his emma.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't fit quite exactly with of course, the Black

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<v Speaker 5>Dadia and the Zodiac, but it's just an evolution, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's the two.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the same. Baber notes that the investigation has established

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<v Speaker 1>that Margolis Merrill wasn't either close or close enough proximity

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<v Speaker 1>to the murders of Elizabeth Short, Ray Davis, Sherry, Joe Bates,

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<v Speaker 1>and the five Zodiac victims, all of which remain cases

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<v Speaker 1>officially unsolved, all of which involved a perpetrator who showed

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<v Speaker 1>a mania for publicity.

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<v Speaker 3>He's either most I'm not guy on the planet, or

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<v Speaker 3>he's the killer. He's the perpetrator of these crops.

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<v Speaker 1>Marvin Merrill's professional apex may have come briefly in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle sixties, when he had left the art world for

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<v Speaker 1>the business world and was president and chief engineer of

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Project's Consultants, a company planning the construction of a

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<v Speaker 1>ten story hotel on the beach in Oceanside. Merrill called

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<v Speaker 1>a press conference to announce his plans and got a

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<v Speaker 1>good run from it, but the project never came to fruition,

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<v Speaker 1>and Meryll was eventually sued by his investors, who wanted

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<v Speaker 1>their money back. According to members of Merrill's family, other

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<v Speaker 1>real estate ventures and development plans followed, but none led

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<v Speaker 1>to success, like the speculative purchase of land near a

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<v Speaker 1>projected freeway interchange that never came to be. Meryl's son

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<v Speaker 1>described home life at this time as always being tense,

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<v Speaker 1>with the family living hand to mouth and his father

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<v Speaker 1>often moody and physically abused, even though money was sure.

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<v Speaker 1>During these times, Merrill kept a second residence in San Jose,

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<v Speaker 1>where he did work for Intel, the microchip company. Efforts

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<v Speaker 1>to confirm this through Intel were unsuccessful, but in documents

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<v Speaker 1>turned over to the Baber team by Meryll's son, there

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<v Speaker 1>are Intel business cards and W two tax forms issued

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<v Speaker 1>by the company to Merrill. It's unclear whether this was

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<v Speaker 1>a side job or another career change, but by the

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<v Speaker 1>early seventies, Merrill was back in the car business, operating

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<v Speaker 1>an auto repair and tire shop called Buck Savers. He

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<v Speaker 1>was also back in trouble with the law. Four days

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<v Speaker 1>before Christmas nineteen seventy one, Merrill was jailed on multiple

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<v Speaker 1>charges of defrauding his customers at the shop. Two months later,

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<v Speaker 1>he was found guilty in court and sentenced to thirty

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<v Speaker 1>days in jail and three years probation. Those three years

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<v Speaker 1>coincided with three years of silence from the Zodiac, a

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<v Speaker 1>period of time when no letters and no ciphers were

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<v Speaker 1>sent to the media.

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<v Speaker 3>During this investigation. From the time it starts to the

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<v Speaker 3>time he's arrested, to the time he's given probation to

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<v Speaker 3>the time probation ends, the Zodiac doesn't appear again. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no letters, no phone calls.

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<v Speaker 2>No attacks.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as Marvin Merrill's probation ends early, all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden, that same month he reappears, and then we

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<v Speaker 3>have this first letter in thirty four months.

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<v Speaker 1>Merril's second marriage came to an end in nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>eight after what family members told us was a physical

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<v Speaker 1>altercation with a teenage child. After that, the family began

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<v Speaker 1>to lose track of Merrill. His son told us he

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<v Speaker 1>had lost touch with his father for nearly a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>After the divorce, records show that Merrill eventually moved north

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<v Speaker 1>toward the middle of California, with the addresses in Ascadero

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<v Speaker 1>and Creston, before finally landing in Santa Barbara. Copies of

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<v Speaker 1>tax returns from these years show him making very little

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<v Speaker 1>money and alternately listing his occupation as engineer, ex engineer,

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<v Speaker 1>and shopkeeper. During his last decade, it appears, at least

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<v Speaker 1>through banking records, that he used all variations of his

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<v Speaker 1>aliases and kept separate checking.

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<v Speaker 2>Accounts under each name.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety two, while he was facing a terminal

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<v Speaker 1>cancer diagnosis, Margos rented an art studio in Santa Barbara

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<v Speaker 1>for seven hundred dollars a month. He used the name

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<v Speaker 1>Marty Merrill and signed a five year lease commencing on

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<v Speaker 1>April first. Perhaps that was an April fool's joke from

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<v Speaker 1>a man who had little.

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<v Speaker 2>More than a year to live. It was likely in.

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<v Speaker 1>That rented studio on Monticito Street that Marty Merrill created

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<v Speaker 1>a sketch titled Elizabeth and depicting the upper half of

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<v Speaker 1>nude woman with dark hair and the word Zodiac hidden

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<v Speaker 1>in the shading. It would be the last of the

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<v Speaker 1>many clues left behind by a human cipher.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that his final days, knowing that his life

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<v Speaker 3>was coming to an end, and I have to say

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<v Speaker 3>this for Marvin having an understanding of him that I

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<v Speaker 3>believe he may have had some some regret for what

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<v Speaker 3>he did to Elizabeth. And the reason I say that

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<v Speaker 3>is that that sketch of particular isn't one that I

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<v Speaker 3>think is him bragging. I think it's his calling card

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<v Speaker 3>so that some days someone would come along and discover

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<v Speaker 3>it and put the pieces together, maybe for his own reason,

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<v Speaker 3>for some reasons, meaning that he would get he finally

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<v Speaker 3>have his name and face attached to these crimes officially,

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<v Speaker 3>so he can go down, you know, in history as

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<v Speaker 3>being the Zodiac and the Black Avenger. But I also

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<v Speaker 3>that he hadn't forgotten Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Michael Conley, and you have been listening to Killer

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<v Speaker 1>in the Code Solving the Black Dahlia and Zodiac cases.

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