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Speaker 1: My name is Joshua and I live in Arkansas, and

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in late two thousand and three, right before it started

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getting cold, my wife and I were invited to camp

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with a friend of mine and his girlfriend at Sugarloaf

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Lake in Oklahoma so we could check out some paranormal

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places in the area. It was dark when we got there,

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and we all climbed into Bob's car and we drove

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around for a few hours, checking out abandoned houses and graveyards.

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But around midnight we started to get bored. Bob smiled

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and said he was saving the best for last, and

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he turned down an old dirt road with the woods

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on one side and the barberire fence on the other.

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There were two acres of field connecting the wooded hillside,

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but nothing to light the night except the full moon

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in the clear, starry sky. He stopped the car and

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we got out and looked toward the fence in the

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field and the wooded hillside. He looked at his cell

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phone and he told us that it was eleven fifty seven,

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and he told us to watch and wait. At exactly midnight,

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a small light flickered in the middle of the hillside.

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Natchill ran down my back as we watched the small

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lantern like light begin to move, swaying back and forth.

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We watched in complete silence for several minutes, when I

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finally spoke up and asked what it was. Bob said

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he didn't know, but locals had told him that at

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midnight on every night, this lantern would light up and

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sway back and forth through the woods until the sun

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came up, and then it would disappear. And there were

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no lights or houses on the hillside, so it didn't

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make any sense. At the time. I was a nineteen

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year old kid who didn't think anything would scare me

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or hurt me, so I had the bright idea to

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yell at it. Yeah, we see you. Wow, you're so

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scary with your little lantern, I shouted, and I started laughing.

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Bob told me to shut up, but it was too late.

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My wife screamed and pointed, and I saw the lantern

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moving down the hillside, gliding at an unhuman pace, speeding

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across the field toward the car. Within seconds, we were

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buckled up and flying down the dirt road back to

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the lake, and when we looked back, we saw the

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lantern moving slowly back up the hillside to where it

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first appeared. The ride back was silid, and when we

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got back to Sugar Loaf Lake, we dropped my tailgate

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and we sat around and talked about what had just happened.

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A little while later, Bob asked if we could take

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the truck to the next town to get some food,

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because his car wouldn't have enough gas to get us there.

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I said okay, and I put the tailgate up and

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we loaded into my truck. But when I turned the key,

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nothing happened. My truck was dead. There was no dang,

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no lights, no clue looking, noise, nothing. We got out

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of the trunk, popped the hood, pulled Bob's car around

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to the front, and attempted to jump start it with

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his car. As soon as we connected the jumper cables

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to his battery in mind, the connector started to smoke,

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and then, in an inexplicable flash of fire, they burned

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up into bits and melted rubber and ash, with only

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the end clamps left still attached to the batteries. Bob

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and I looked at each other in an eerie moon

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and starlit night, confused as all hell, and realized there

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was a distant noise on the lake that was getting

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closer to us. It was a boat motor. At this

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time of year, it was starting to get cold, especially

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at night, and somebody being out in a boat at

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that time of the night, at that time of the

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year didn't make sense. When the boat was just about

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fifty yards away, a spotlight turned on and blinded us all.

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Bob and I told the girls to get the car

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locked the doors, and I reached into the bed of

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my truck and grabbed a tire tool. The boat pulled

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up to the dock and two heavily bearded men stepped

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out and walked up to us with a spotlight still on.

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They looked at our vehicles and then the women in

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the car, and they laughed. You fella's got some sort

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of car trouble, one ask as he lit up a cigarette. Yeah,

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it's nothing we can't handle, I stammered. The guy with

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a cigarette stiffed the air and looked down at our

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feet and saw the smoking ashes of the jumper cable.

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Looks like it was more than your weak jumper cables

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could handle. We got some tools on the boat and

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fix your problems right up, Yeah, fix them right up.

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The other guy said. They walked back to the boat.

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We heard what sounded like chains rattling around, and we

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tried to make out what they were doing, but the

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spotlight was so blinding that we could barely see but

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that chain noise. Something about it wasn't right, something about

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those men wasn't right. Bob and I exchanged a glance,

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and without saying a word, we jumped in his car

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and we drove the hell out of there. We got

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to a populated area of houses nearby, and we sat

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in the car quietly and looked around the whole time,

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thinking that at any time those weird men would come

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and find us, And every now and then Bob would

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turn his lights on, thinking he had seen some movement

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in the dark. After a while, the women fell asleep,

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and Bob and I talked about how weird this whole

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ordeal had been. The men never showed up, and eventually

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the morning was on its way. It was about twenty

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minutes until daylight, and Bob asked if I wanted to

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see the lantern really disappear at sunrise like the locals said.

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He was sure he had enough fuel, so we had

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it out there in about four minutes left until sunrise.

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We saw the lantern swaying in the woods. We all

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stared at it and wonder when the sun rose. We

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watched the lantern slowly fade away to nothing. We got

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back in the car and drove back to the lake,

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feelings safer. Now there was no sign of the boat.

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The hood of my truck was still up, and those

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doors were still locked. I got in the cab and

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tried to start the truck one more time, and I'll

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be damn if it didn't start right up. We all

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went our separate ways, happy to have seen the sunrise

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and counting our blessings, and swearing to leave the paranormal

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investigation in that area to others. But all things fade

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with time, even fear and common sense. Three years later, Bob,

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who I hadn't seen in nearly two years, called me

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up and said he had a proposition for me. Bob

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was a wicked He had a small group of three

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other wickeds and they did seances and haunted places sometimes.

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And Bob asked me if i'd be willing to film

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their sessions. Well, I'm no wicking, but he offered to

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pay me well. I told him i'd be happy to

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film for them, but I had no interest in joining

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in the first place. They wanted to go with Sugar Loaf,

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and he asked me if I remembered the lantern light

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that we had seen out there, and I asked him

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how I could have ever forgotten that. Bob wanted to

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contact the lantern spirit and find out why it was

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there and what it wanted. I felt uncomfortable about this

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whole thing, but Bob had offered to pay me, so

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I agreed to it. A week later, I was in

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Bob's car with two other guys and a girl I

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had never met, going down that dirt road to the

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haunted hillside. We got there at eleven fifty pm. The

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four of them sat in a tight circle. I was

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behind them, five feet from the fence in my back

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to the hillside. They started chanting, and I started filming.

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Words cannot do justice to the pure terror that ensued.

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Whatever light interest I had in the paranormal before that

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night was gone, and after what happened, I wanted nothing

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to do with it ever again. As the group chanted,

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Bob lit up a huge candle in the middle of

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them and opened up some sort of book. He started

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reciting words from it. He looked at his phone and

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told his group to be quiet look at the hill.

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I turned the camera around, and at midnight on the dot,

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the lantern appeared. Bob's group joined hands and attempted to

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communicate with the spirit. I turned my back to the

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light and turned the camera back to the group and

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filmed them as they started asking questions of the spirit,

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hoping for a response. About this time, a strong wind

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picked up and Bob's candle went out. He told me

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to cut the camera for a minute as he went

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on to try to get his lighter working, to no avail.

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The others in the group tried their lighters, but none

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of them worked either. I was sitting down at that

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point watching them try to get a flame started when

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I heard a rustling behind me, and I jumped up

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and left the camera on the ground and spun around.

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Right away, I was blinded by a spotlight. It was

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a lantern, close up and personal, but as soon as

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it appeared, it was gone and I didn't have a

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chance to identify it. I looked around for the lantern

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on the hillside, but I didn't see anything. Right then,

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the wind quit blowing and I heard Bob's lighter finally work.

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I asked if any of the others had seen the light,

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and before any of them could speak, we heard a

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distant laughter coming from nowhere and everywhere around us. It

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was no ordinary laughter. It was like the laughter of hundreds,

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even thousands of children. It was a sinister laughing. It

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was a goofy laughing and giggling all around us, coming

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from all directions. I started shaking. I couldn't move. I

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was spinning around, looking everywhere for some kind of an explanation,

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because something like that doesn't happen in real life. And

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then I screamed at Bob that we needed to get

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the hell out of there. The laughter was getting closer

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and louder, and we hauled out of there, leaving the

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candle and the camera behind. A mile up the road,

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Bob pulled over. He was in no condition to drive,

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so we all got out of the car and paced

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around the road and tried to make sense of what

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we had just seen. I got my hands on my

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knees and I was panting and trying to catch my

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breath when we heard laughter off in the distance again.

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At first, it was quiet, but it slowly got closer

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and louder, until once again it was deafening, and we

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jumped back in the car and we sped away. We

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drove five or six miles. For the first three we

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heard the laughter in the distance following us, and when

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it faded, we started calming down, and Bob's friend in

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the passenger seat had his phone out waiting for a

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signal to pop up, and as soon as it did,

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he called a friend of his who was a well

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versed and educated man in all things of the occult.

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She was on the speaker and told Bob and his

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friend that she believed that this was the children of Hecady.

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We were still speeding down the road when the hair

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on the back of all of our necks stood up straight.

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Then there was a loud snapping noise from in front

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of Bob's hood, and Bob's truck stopped dead in its

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tracks and wouldn't go another inch. The friend on the

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phone only lived about twenty minutes away from where we were,

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and she said she was on her way. Three minutes later,

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we saw a pair of headlights coming down the road

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toward us. We knew it was soon to be Bob's friend,

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but me and Bob thought maybe we could get a

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ride from a local, so we unloaded out of the

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car and stood in front of it and waited for

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the vehicle to stop. As the vehicle came into view,

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we saw it was an old, beat up pickup truck,

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and it slowed down to look at us, and inside

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I saw two heavily bearded men, and I looked at

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Bob and he said what I was already thinking, that's

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the guys from the boat. The truck kept driving, and

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before I could respond, it turned around and drove toward

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us again, and the guys in the truck passed slowly by,

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staring at us as they went by. Bob called his

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friend back, told her to drive like hell and get

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here now. It took five minutes and we saw the

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headlights coming and we started to relax, thinking it was

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Bob's friend, But then his phone rang and his friend

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called to tell him that she had taken a wrong turn.

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It was going to be another fifteen minutes. Bob hung

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up the phone and we watched in terror as the

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same truck slowly passed by us again, this time with

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only one of the boat men in the truck, and

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the driver slowed to a crawl and rolled his window down,

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and he spoke to us. Looks like you fellers could

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use some help, he said, and then he sped up

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and drove off. The laughter started up again in the

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distance all around us, and over the next few minutes

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it got closer and closer, and in the distance we

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saw two sets of headlights coming on in two vehicles

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coming toward us slowly, side by side, taking up the

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entire width of the road and coming our way. The

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laughter had intensified so much that it was like hundreds

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of children were laughing at us from close by. Our

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last shred of hope started fading away as those two

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vehicles got closer, but by a miracle, from the opposite

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direction on the road, we saw another set of headlights

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coming fast. Bob's friend pulled up next to us in

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a rush. She unlocked the doors and told us to

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get in, and right then two sets of headlights coming

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from the other direction turned off. She heard the laughing

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children and screamed at us to get in, and as

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soon as she started to drive away, the other two

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sets of headlights came on again, this time with their brights.

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As she sped away with us crammed into the car.

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The other two vehicles were on our tail, and they

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stayed on the bumper for the next mile, and then

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they turned onto a side road and disappeared. For the

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next two miles. After that, we heard laughter still way

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off in the distance. To this day, I have no

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explanation for what happened, and I hope somebody who hears

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this has had a similar experience it can share their

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story with me. To all of you who think the

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paranormal is just a fun hobby to get your thrills with,

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I'll warn you that we are not prepared for what

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is really out there. If you hear the story, I

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hope you sleep peacefully tonight. I for one know that

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for at least the next few nights, I won't be

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getting any sleep at all. Hey, everybody, welcome to the podcast. Man.

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That story that you just heard scared me to death.

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While I was reading it, I could just see all

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of that happening. It was unbelievable. In this podcast, we

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have another paranormal a haunting story. We have a we

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have a story about a person who was actually attacked

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by an infamous serial killer. And then at the end

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we got a fantastic Bigfoot story. So I'm glad you're here.

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I'm glad you clicked on this video because you're not

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missing it, and I hope you enjoy it all. Right

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here we go. It was summertime. The sun was beating

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down and the air was sweltering hot. There was a

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kind of weather fit for relaxing in the shade with

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a good book or dipping the pool, and that was

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about it. I chose to read a book. My book

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of choice was a magazine. It was one of those

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true detective publications. There was an article in it about

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how women can protect themselves in public or when someone

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is trying to harm them. I turned to the page

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and I began to read. It was full of information

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and tips, such as always being aware of those around you.

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For example, a woman should always glance behind her when

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entering a store at the mall. She should take stock

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of any man following her into the store or lurking

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outside the entrance. And if a man has followed her in,

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she should deliberately go to an area he wouldn't normally frequent,

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and if he continues to follow, she should leave the

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store and wait. If there's a bench available, she should

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sit down and observe without being too obvious. If he

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also sits her lingers, she should go to another store

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to see if he follows again. I firmly believe I

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was meant to read that article, but I had no

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idea until I decided to go into the mall later

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that day just how important the information would be. I

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had just bought a new dress that I was eager

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to wear, and it was too hot to stay outside.

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The mall was an air conditioned oasis, so I bathed,

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and I dressed, and I did my hair and my makeup,

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and I was off for an afternoon of shopping. I

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entered the small dress shop, and it was warmly greeted

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by some of the employees. I was a frequent shopper

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and I was well known there. We spoke for a minute,

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and they complimented me on how well I looked in

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this dress, and I went about my shopping. I had

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left that store and was heading for another when the

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article I read earlier came to mind. Casually, I strolled

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down the main corridor and I glanced around. Two women

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were engaged in a conversation near the entrance of the

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next door that I entered, and not far from them

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was a tall, nice looking man wearing a sport coat

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and a tie and some nice slacks. He was well

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groomed with a neatly trim brown wavy hair. I didn't

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see anyone I considered to be a threat. I moved

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to the lady section to shop, as did the two

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other women, and so did the man, and I giggled

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to myself, wondering who the lucky lady was he was

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shopping for. He kept glancing at me. When I left

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the store, I couldn't help but notice that the man

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did too, and I continued down the mall, stopping to

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look in the window of a hobby shop. The man

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also approached the shop, and he stopped, seeming to amuse

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himself as well. I was immediately on guard, and as

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I continued through the mall, he followed, And when I stopped,

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he stopped, and when I moved on, he moved on.

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And I decided it was best to cut my trip

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short and leave the mall. I walked out the front

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door with the man right behind me, and I got

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my keys ready to open my car door. Now, back

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in the nineteen seventies, Keyfobbs weren't in existence. My green

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Grand Chirino was parked halfway across the parking lot. It

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felt like miles away, and I finally entered the lane

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where it was parked, and the man entered the adjacent lane.

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I walked up beside my car, and he walked to

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the car parked directly in front of me, and he

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put his key into the lock. As I inserted the

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key into mine, I opened my door, but he stepped

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away from his car and he started walking toward me.

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I jumped inside my car just to see lunged for me,

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and he ran to my car door and grabbed the

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handle and I hit the lock as he began to

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pull on it, and a split second later he would

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have opened my door. That was a hot day and

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cars can quickly turn into ovens on days like that,

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So to alleviate some of the heat, I left my

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window cracked about two inches and he stuck his fingers

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through and began trying to force the window down. Now

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asked him what he was doing, opened the door. He

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said over and over. I was so frightened that I panicked,

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and I turned the key and gassed the engine. The

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car wouldn't start I had flooded it. Now I was

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fighting hysterics, and he continued to talk to me, saying

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awful things, things I can't repeat. And he asked me

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questions of a nature so shocking that I was stunned.

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And as he spoke, he worked himself into a frenzy,

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speaking faster and faster. Then he said he was doing

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this to me because it was what I wanted. All

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the while I was honking the horn and yelling for help.

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It didn't deter him, though, in the least. He just

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kept telling me what he was going to do to me,

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and that I wanted him to. A man and a

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woman walked behind the car, and I saw them and

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pleaded with them for help. They looked at the man

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and then at me, and they shook their heads in disgust,

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and they walked away. There were others in the parking lot,

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and many of them looked right at us, but it

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was like they didn't want to get involved. They all

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looked away and ignored the entire scene. I was trying

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to remain calm. I kept trying to crank the car.

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It was only me at that point, no one else

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was going to save me. And finally it started, and

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I told him to back away because I was leaving,

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and he kept hold on the window and kept talking.

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I'm warning you, I yelled. If you don't remove your hand,

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it's going to roll up on your fingers and I'm

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going to drive off with you attached to it. He

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didn't comply, so I followed through with my threat. I

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rolled up the window hard on his fingers and backed up.

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He still wouldn't let go. I drove to the main

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entrance of the mall with him still hanging onto the window,

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and I told him one last time to let go,

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and I punched the gas. He held on for a

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couple of steps. In his hands were wrenched from the window.

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As I drove off, I looked back and he was

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straightening his tie and walking back in the mall. This

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victory gave me courage, and I told myself he wasn't

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going to get away with what he did to me.

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I pulled over to the curb and I went back

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inside the mall. At that time, they didn't have security

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like they do today, but they had a custodian and

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he was a friend of my father's, and I found

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him and quickly told him the short version of what

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had happened, and together we went looking for the well

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groomed man and a sport coat. We found him sitting

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in the back of a snack bar, as if nothing

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had happened, and when I pointed him out, the custodian

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looked at me and said, you must be mistaken. Look

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at that man. He looks like a lawyer or a businessman.

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He couldn't possibly be the one you're talking about. But

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when I insisted that he was indeed the man who

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had accosted me in the parking lot, I was told

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to go home and call my father. Meanwhile, the man

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was pretending not to notice us, but I knew he

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was watching, and I could feel as eyes on me.

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But what could I do. I was so upset that

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I left, but not without making sure that he wasn't

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following me. I will never forget his face. It was

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only inches from me for several minutes, and I stared

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right into his eyes, his images forever etched in my mind.

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That night, when my husband got home from work, I

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told him the entire story, and his reply was to

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stay away from the mall. They were not words I

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wanted to hear one night as my husband and I

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were watching the news. I saw a familiar face. It

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was the man from the mall, and I screamed when

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I saw him. My husband, completely baffled by my response,

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demanded to know what was wrong with me and I

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told him, but he said it couldn't be the same man.

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He was a serial killer from out west. And the

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news continued. It said that they had arrested a man

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in Flora, where he'd been living and working, and his

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name was Ted Bundy. I lived only a few hours

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from where he was living. He easily could have stopped

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at the mall on the way to Florida or driven

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there on the prow for his next victim. What he

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did to his victims was unspeakable. I once met a

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woman whose mother went out on a date with Ted Bundy.

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She worked at a mall in Birmingham, Alabama, and he'd

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ask her out several times and she had refused. And

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when he asked her why she wouldn't go out with him,

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she said, for all I know, you could be a

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serial killer. Well do I look like a serial killer

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to you? He would ask, as he flashed her his

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charming smile. What does a serial killer look like she asked.

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Eventually she relented and they had their date and he

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picked her up at home and took her to a bar.

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She said the drinks he ordered for them weren't the

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usual beers that everyone seemed to be drinking, and that

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they were out of the ordinary. Afterward, he took her

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home and he kissed her hand. I like you, he said.

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That's why I'm letting you go like me. The next

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time she saw him, he was on the news. And

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it goes to show you that monsters can come in

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pretty packages. Be aware of your surroundings and the possibility

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that someone could take you. Monsters come in all shapes

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and sizes and fur colors. Some are on four legs

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and some are on two. And she signs the email Lenita,

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survivor of a serial killer. Lenita is a friend of mine.

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She's told me this story before, and I've had this

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story for months and I just haven't found a This

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is the perfect podcast to put it in. So Lenita,

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there is your experience with Ted Bundy. It scared me

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when you first told it, and it scared me right

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in when I just read it. You're a brave woman.

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I really appreciate you sending this to us. In twenty thirteen,

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on our way back home to Alabama, my mother and

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I stopped at the Myrtle Plantation in Saint Francisville, Louisiana.

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It was one of those haunted tourist attractions. It was beautiful,

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but we never felt anything bad. The myrtles were in

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full bloom and Spanish moss hung around the massive oaks.

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The grounds were immaculately cut and trimmed. The brick courtyard

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was neatly cared for, with a big water fountain in

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the center with coins on the bottom where the guests

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had made their wishes. There was a really nice restaurant

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on the grounds and we had a nice lunch. Afterward,

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we went on our tour of the house. It was

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just as beautiful inside as it was outside. We didn't

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feel uncomfortable at all, and since I'm normally sensitive about

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these things, we thought it being haunted was just a

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scam to get people to visit. We got home, I

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told my husband all about it, how beautiful it was,

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and all about the restaurant and how wonderful the food was.

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I told him it was not haunted, and that I

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wanted to go back with him sometime and stay the night. Well,

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it took us two years, but we finally were able

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to make a reservation for a couple of nights. The

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time came and we headed to Saint Francisville with the

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GPS leading the way. We arrived at four pm that day,

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and as my husband was parking the truck, I noticed

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a man walking from the woods to the driveway. He

481
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,079
did not look right, and he was out of place.

482
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,079
He had a big, white flowing shirt on, he had

483
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,240
tight black pants with knee boots on, and his hair

484
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,480
was in a ponytail. And he glowed and shimmered too.

485
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:49,519
And I said to my husband, look, I think that's

486
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:54,000
a ghost, but he was too busy parking to see.

487
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:56,200
I got out of the truck and as soon as

488
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:58,480
I could, I walked after the man to see where

489
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,200
he went. I couldn't find him, but I went to

490
00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:03,519
the place where he came out of the woods, and

491
00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:06,240
I found there was no path at all. The clearing

492
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,160
he came out of had been a wild hedge of bushes.

493
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,960
The whole area was nothing but thick shrubs. It was

494
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,960
impossible for anybody to walk through. I realized then that

495
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,799
I had seen a ghost during the day. Oh lord,

496
00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:23,079
I thought, have I made a mistake about this place.

497
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:26,440
We made our way to the gift shop, met up

498
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,240
with a woman named Esther, and we got checked in

499
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,680
and I told her about the man I saw, and

500
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:35,160
she told me they would be interacting with me tonight.

501
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,319
It was a creepy thing to say, and I thought,

502
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,000
but I thanked her and we went on our way.

503
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,160
The master bedroom was the only bedroom in the main house,

504
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,599
and we had the house to ourselves with the only key.

505
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,880
And right then I felt something I hadn't felt on

506
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,880
my first visit there with my mother two years earlier.

507
00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,440
There was a heaviness that I did not feel like before.

508
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:04,799
Oh well, I thought, and I brushed it off. That night,

509
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:07,400
we walked around for a while and decided to turn in.

510
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,440
Going into that house that night had a different atmosphere

511
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:14,279
than during the day. While we got in the bed

512
00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:17,200
with the lights out, we both fell asleep within minutes.

513
00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:20,319
But in the middle of the night, I woke up

514
00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:23,920
with the covers having been pulled off my shoulders. It

515
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,079
was a little chilly, so I reached down and pulled

516
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:29,160
the sheet back up, thinking that maybe my husband moved

517
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,839
in his sleep, and I was about to doze back off,

518
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:35,359
and that's when I felt fingers on my shoulder, pulling

519
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,319
the sheet off of me. My husband had his back

520
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:41,440
to me, and there was no way it could have

521
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,359
been him, and I reached down and grabbed that sheet

522
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,680
with my fist and I pulled it over my head.

523
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,839
I said an ugly word, and then I turned over

524
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,920
and I ran my face into my husband's back. I

525
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,200
was so frightened I could hardly move, and I lay

526
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,759
there for the longest time, praying for the sun to

527
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:02,000
come up. We finally did. I begged my husband to

528
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,160
come to the bathroom with me so that I wouldn't

529
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,599
have to go alone. Despite the scary night, we had

530
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:11,160
a great day taking pictures and venturing around this plantation.

531
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:14,559
And while we were riding around, I told my husband

532
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:17,240
what had happened to me during the night. That's what

533
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:19,920
he told me. He had his own tale to tell.

534
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,359
In the night, somebody called his name right up against

535
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:27,599
his ear, waking him up from a deep sleep. I

536
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,200
looked right at my husband and I said, how about

537
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,839
we just go home? But he shook his head. No.

538
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,000
We had already paid for another night. We were going

539
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:39,599
to stay. I didn't want to go to bed that night,

540
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:42,519
so we sat out in the courtyard until it was late,

541
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:46,039
with me frightened to death about going in that house

542
00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:49,599
and climbing that staircase to our room. It was unbearable.

543
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:52,119
But it was late and it was time to head

544
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:55,000
in for the night. We got ready for bed, but

545
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:58,359
this time we did it differently. We changed sides of

546
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,279
the bed and I kept the lye and I prayed

547
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:04,960
the whole night for our safety, and I eventually fell asleep.

548
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,039
The last night was uneventful, Thank you Lord. We got

549
00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:13,680
our stuff and we headed home. On the way home,

550
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,279
my husband told me he really liked that place and

551
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:19,559
that maybe we could come back sometime. I told him

552
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:22,200
he was nuts and I was never going back to

553
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,839
that place, and if he wanted to go, he'd have

554
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:30,960
to go alone. Okay, listen this podcast up with a

555
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,559
Bigfoot story. Everybody likes the bigfoot stories, So here we go.

556
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,599
I come from a family of avid hunters. We camp

557
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,920
and hike off and and have for years. And I

558
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,440
know the sounds normal animals mate, as well as their

559
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:51,440
tracks and scat. I lived outside Calispel. I think I'm

560
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,799
pronouncing that right. Calispell, Montana, in an area called Many Lakes.

561
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,480
I lived over the top, basically in the snow line.

562
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:04,240
My kids and I lived in a quaint rental in

563
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:07,880
a beautiful spot between four or five lakes. A couple

564
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,519
of those lakes were private and others were public. My

565
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,480
driveway was straight and I normally backed out onto the

566
00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:20,400
dirt as traffic was virtually nonexistent. In April of twenty sixteen,

567
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,720
I was up early getting ready for work. At three

568
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,720
point thirty in the morning. I was almost finished when

569
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,240
I decided to warm my jeep up. When I stepped outside,

570
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:33,720
I realized there was no noise, no squirrels, no birds, nothing,

571
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,039
But it was so early in the morning that I

572
00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:39,319
didn't pay much attention. I made it to my jeep,

573
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:41,519
and as I reached my hand out to open the door,

574
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,240
I heard the strangest, deep, growling howl noise that I

575
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,160
had ever heard, coming from the private lake. I stopped

576
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,720
in my tracks and I realized something was running down

577
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:54,519
my driveway to the game trail that goes to the lake.

578
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:58,400
As it ran, it let out an eerie call, answering

579
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,000
the first one. The lake was slightly lit by the

580
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,559
moon and From where I stood, I could see the

581
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,559
water ripple. It was almost as if the creatures had

582
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:10,640
gone in the water. When they were almost to the

583
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,319
other side of the lake. The first creature, which I

584
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:16,119
assumed was the larger of the two because its call

585
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:19,880
was much deeper, called out again, and the smaller one

586
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,279
answered well. I got goosebumps and my hair stood up,

587
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:25,599
and I jumped in the jeep and I started it,

588
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:29,640
and I ran back inside the house. I finished getting

589
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,000
ready for work, and I walked outside. Fifteen minutes later.

590
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:37,920
It was still eerily quiet. Even today, I can't remember

591
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,000
ever hearing the woods being so quiet. I got into

592
00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:44,920
the safety of my jeep and backed out onto the road.

593
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:48,319
But the second my vehicle cleared the edge of the house,

594
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:52,799
I was pelted with pine cones, tons of them within

595
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,799
a few seconds, and I stopped and rolled the window

596
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,559
down and I yelled, knock it off. I started to

597
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:01,599
back up again, and as I hit the end of

598
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,319
the driveway, they started throwing more pine cones, only this

599
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,519
time not as many or as quickly. I knew what

600
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,119
was throwing them, but I didn't want to believe it.

601
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,239
I thought about it all day at work, and when

602
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,760
I got off that afternoon, I went to pick my

603
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,960
son up, Caden, from school. I told him about it,

604
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:26,159
and he suggested that we go look for tracks. When

605
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,719
we pulled up to turn into the driveway, he jumped

606
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,719
out to get the mail like he usually did. He

607
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,880
was about four steps from the mailbox when he froze

608
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,039
and looked at me with huge eyes. He heeled for

609
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:40,079
me to come look, and when I got out and

610
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,639
ran over to him, I saw several running steps and

611
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,840
then one left print that crossed over the right one

612
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,920
right where it stepped onto the game trail. My son

613
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,800
started tracking it, and I got back in the car

614
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,280
and parked the jeep in the driveway. When I got

615
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,960
out again, my son's face was lit up with excitement.

616
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,639
He had found all kinds of tracks. We followed them

617
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:06,760
down to the bank and we saw the tracks go

618
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,760
to the edge of the lake, where they met up

619
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,000
with a set of much larger tracks that were so

620
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:14,960
big we could still see where they had stepped into

621
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,559
the water. We filmed and we measured the tracks. The

622
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,800
smaller ones were just over thirteen inches and the larger

623
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,440
tracks were seventeen and three quarter inches. When we went

624
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,159
out beside the house where the pine cones came from,

625
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:33,280
we found a third set of tracks, much smaller than

626
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:38,360
the other two. It only measured nine inches. In August

627
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,760
of the same year, my husband and son were right

628
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,760
outside my bedroom fixing my daughter's truck. They were both

629
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,880
underneath it, and I went to take them some drinks.

630
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,199
I stepped out of my bedroom door and instantly noticed

631
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:54,840
a juvenile bigfoot lying on top of the bank watching them.

632
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,119
I didn't react, I just kept moving. I gave them

633
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:02,400
the drinks and Aiden went inside for a minute, and

634
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,599
when he was out of earshot, I asked my husband

635
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:08,440
if he knew that there was a baby bigfoot watching them. Yeah,

636
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:12,159
he said, it's been there a while. It's not hurting anything.

637
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:16,119
I think it's just curious. Well, all right, I said,

638
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,000
looking toward the house. Does Caden know? Nope, my husband said.

639
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,480
After thirty minutes, when Caden and my husband had finished

640
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:28,599
and were getting ready to move the truck, Caden saw

641
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:32,159
the bigfoot and he yelled and pointed excitedly, and then

642
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:35,239
he ran after it. Well, that thing jumped up and

643
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,719
moved so fast that it was down my driveway and

644
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,840
across the road to the other lake before Caden had

645
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,039
even got a few feet. It was the coolest thing.

646
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,840
In December of twenty twenty, I moved to Eureka, Montana,

647
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:52,679
and bought a small ranch on a dead end road

648
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,400
that backed up to Canada. The forty ninth parallel was

649
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,320
my northern fence line. The house had been vacant for

650
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,960
seven years, and when we moved in, we were pretty

651
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,599
busy getting it ready to live in, and we didn't

652
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:09,559
notice anything out of the ordinary. My son was now

653
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:12,239
in the Air Force, and I saw him about twice

654
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,559
a year, and in February he and his wife visited

655
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:19,119
for his birthday. We were all busy doing a lot

656
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:22,559
with the horses and the house, and after a few days,

657
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:25,920
when it was nearing dinnertime and not yet dark, we

658
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,480
were sitting in the living room chatting and waiting for

659
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:32,199
dinner to be ready. Earlier that day, we had switched

660
00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:34,519
out my dryer for a new one, and we set

661
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:38,800
the old one temporarily on the patio. The patio was

662
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,440
concrete and it was surrounded on three sides by the house.

663
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,039
As we were sitting there, I noticed something big and

664
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:49,440
black by the dryer, but all my dogs were inside

665
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:53,039
and accounted for. And when I saw it, I stood up,

666
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,920
and as I did, it stood up too. It was huge,

667
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,440
and Caden saw it too. That's a bigfoot, he said quietly.

668
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,079
I headed for the door to the patio with Caden

669
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:08,199
behind me. That thing was every bit of seven and

670
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:11,639
a half feet tall. Before it left, it stopped and

671
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:14,000
looked at me, and I could see the whites of

672
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:17,239
its eyes. It turned and stepped over the forty two

673
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,480
inch high fence, and as I watched in amazement, Cayden

674
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:23,840
was already running through the living room to go out

675
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,280
the front door. It was just getting dark out, and

676
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,440
when Cayden and I were both outside, we could see

677
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,039
where the thing stepped on a pallet and broke it.

678
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,159
The next step was sixty two inches away. I could

679
00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:40,559
see it ran down the ravine and I knew it

680
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:43,280
was going to flank us so it could watch us more.

681
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,480
And I reassured my family that it was not going

682
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:50,199
to hurt us, though it was just curious, after all,

683
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,440
no one had been at that house for years. I

684
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,159
got on a local Facebook page and reported what I

685
00:38:57,199 --> 00:38:59,920
had seen, and a neighbor asked me to report it

686
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:03,480
to the police. Well, I called and reported it, and

687
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:06,920
within fifteen minutes we had two officers show up at

688
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,480
the house. Well. We walked around with them and they

689
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:13,039
told us that they were going to check the barn

690
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:16,719
in the outbuilding. It was dead quiet, and my horses

691
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,480
were wide eyed and they were acting weird. After the

692
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:23,360
officers checked the buildings in the neighbor's place, they came

693
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,360
up to tell us that they hadn't seen anything. The

694
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,320
younger officer told me he believed me and thought it

695
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,679
was a bigfoot, but the other officer, who was older

696
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,679
and seemed to have no opinion, was on alert and

697
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,039
he was stand offish. We finally sat down to eat dinner.

698
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,280
Each of us amped up over all the excitement, and

699
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,039
after we ate, I checked my Facebook and saw two

700
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,639
hundred replies to my post, most of them telling me

701
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,880
the bigfoots had been in that area for years. I

702
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,519
also got a text from my neighbor who was about

703
00:39:56,599 --> 00:40:00,039
seventy two years older so, and he told me the

704
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:03,280
bigfoots had been in the area for generations, that they

705
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,960
come through several times a year and they move on.

706
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,000
Also got a message from a guy who said he

707
00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:13,760
was a professional tracker. He asked if he could come around,

708
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,119
and I told him, hell yes. He showed up that

709
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,280
night after it had gotten really dark and cold outside,

710
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,760
and he tracked it all the way down to the

711
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,280
ravine and said it headed north and then west, but

712
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,199
after a while he lost the tracks. This guy told

713
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:32,920
me he wasn't a bigfoot believer, but he could verify

714
00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:35,519
that it was not a bear or a cat and

715
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:39,880
was definitely not a wolf. He said it was bipedal

716
00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:43,679
and massive, but it walked soft footed when not running.

717
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:47,360
When he left, we all sat down and tried to

718
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,440
settle in for the night, but the action was far

719
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,119
from over. It was ten forty five and we heard

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a loud, flat handed slap on the north side of

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the house, next to my bedroom. Caden and I got

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up and went right outside, but we couldn't see any

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sign of anything. Later, we heard another slap but tried

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to ignore it, and then it slapped again, harder than before,

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and dragged what sounded like claws down the side of

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the house. We decided it must have been juveniles messing

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with us, and again we tried to ignore it. I

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went to bed a little while later, only to be

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awakened at three am by a horrible growl unlike anything

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I had ever heard. Right outside my window, I heard

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something jump up and down on the back of my

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avalanche truck, and then I heard branches breaking. And this

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went on for hours. Finally, at dawn, I got up

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the nerve to get up and finally go outside in

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my bathrobe, and I saw tons of tracks. I took

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pictures and videos of everything, and I measured everything I could.

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That afternoon, I contacted a well known bigfoot researcher and

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he came all the way from California to my house

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and he set up two gifting stations with food, toys, feathers, crystals,

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and buttons, all things he said that they loved. Over

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the course of the week that he stayed at the house,

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he was able to find out that we had a

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family of five bigfoots in the area. The alpha male

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had an eighteen and a half inch track, which meant

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he was about nine feet tall. We both agreed that

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they followed the elk since they are a great source

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of food, and he told me that the slaps and

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scratches on the side of the house were most likely

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the young ones messing with us, just like we thought,

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and the growl that we had heard was the dad

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telling them to knock it off. While he was here.

752
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We had all kinds of bigfoot signs, but unfortunately we

753
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did not hear or see them at all. Since then,

754
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,039
we have heard them a few more times and we've

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seen signs of them. Ever, has one come right up

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to the house again that we know of. I was

757
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an active paranormal hunter for some time, and I love

758
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the thrill of the unknown. Now I feel honored that

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they chose to let their presence be known to me. Wow,

760
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,840
what a long time of experience with these creatures this

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person's had. It's a woman. She's talking about moving around

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and everywhere they're, everywhere they go there just happens to

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be bigfoot. So this was really interesting. Again, I'm one

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of these people who never I probably just live in

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a place where there aren't any bigfoot. I never see

766
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,960
a sign, I never see a track, I never see

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00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:46,400
anything that would make me think a bigfoot lives around here.

768
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But these people are in places where apparently they live,

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and they're not afraid of humans, and they're pretty conniving

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and pretty clever, you know, to stay out of reach.

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And so anyway, the whole thing's just fascinated to me.

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But I love this story, and to the woman who

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sent it, I really appreciate it. It was well written

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and very concise and got right to the story. I

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thought it was wonderful. Thank you, hey, thanks for listening

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to this podcast. I appreciate you listening all the way.

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If you can hear this message, you listened all the way. Man,

778
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:24,440
weren't those spooky stories. I know they're not Bigfoot stories.

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Everybody loves the Bigfoot stories. But sometimes these other stories, man,

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they get to me. These were exceptional. So thank you

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to the writers and thank you for listening, and we

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will see you guys on the next podcast. Thanks