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<v Speaker 1>Seven oh six here at fifty five KRSD talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>Right time was here withstening everybody a very happy Friday

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<v Speaker 1>and welcoming into the fifty five carssee morning show for

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<v Speaker 1>the full hour discussion. We have a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to talk about that we can never stuff into

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<v Speaker 1>an hour of discussion. Bring him a gulland from the

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<v Speaker 1>Hudson Institute online a Hudson dot org. Also a professor

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<v Speaker 1>at Ohio or at Miami University Oxford and host of

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<v Speaker 1>the Charged Conversations podcast. Just Derekker produces that one. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>he welcome back? Bring him?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in DC until yesterday, so it's I'm glad

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<v Speaker 3>to be back in the real world. And yes, Joe

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<v Speaker 3>does produce, and he does an excellent job, and I'd

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<v Speaker 3>be I wouldn't be able to do it without him.

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<v Speaker 1>I say that about the fifty five KRSITE Morning Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I use that as a springboard to give him

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<v Speaker 1>free publicity. If you want to do a podcast, just

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<v Speaker 1>get in touch with Joe Strecker. He'll be happy to

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<v Speaker 1>produce it for you for a reasonable fee. There you go, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>free promo. Love you brother, anyway, I'll bring them. You

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<v Speaker 1>add a list, I mean a huge list of topics

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, and I want to try to get

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<v Speaker 1>them all in. But I wanted to gravitate toward one

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<v Speaker 1>that was later in your list, and that is the

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<v Speaker 1>EPA's endangerment findings. This is all about CO two, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've been busting our humps left and right green energy

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<v Speaker 1>policies inflacer reduction, acting carbon capture. We need to spend

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<v Speaker 1>trillions and trillions of dollars to prevent carbon dioxide also

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<v Speaker 1>known as plant food plant food from getting out into

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<v Speaker 1>the environment. We need to stop exhaling Brigham because we're

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<v Speaker 1>putting a pollutant in. But no, it's not a pollutant,

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<v Speaker 1>is it. So say it the Department of Energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, oh my gosh, don't let the facts get

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<v Speaker 3>in the way of a good argument. Because the climate

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<v Speaker 3>change movement is possessed, by captivated, by beholden by CO two.

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<v Speaker 3>There are many different types of greenhouse gases, right, some

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<v Speaker 3>of ms are actually quite dangerous indeed lead to asthma,

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<v Speaker 3>health problems, et cetera. But CO two is what the

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<v Speaker 3>world of climate change is solely focused on, and it

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<v Speaker 3>has been for a number of year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about CO two, okay, And I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>really have to really demands asking the question, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>why CO two? It is the lynchpin for so many

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<v Speaker 1>of these global warming projects. I mean again, getting let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say, mercury out of the air or something that's

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<v Speaker 1>a worthy goal. We're not supposed to be breathing in

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<v Speaker 1>or consuming mercury. It's carcinogenetic, it's dangerous, it has all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of felt effects. But carbon dioxide does not do

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<v Speaker 1>that to you. So what's the story on behind the story?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it doesn't doesn't and you know, we did remove mercury.

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<v Speaker 3>We changed some refrigerants around, and it got worse after that,

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<v Speaker 3>but the initial change of refrigerations is good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>CO two is a percentage of the air, makes up

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<v Speaker 3>less than one half of one percent. It's point zero

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<v Speaker 3>zero four to two percent in our atmosphere. So relatively speaking,

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<v Speaker 3>that is four hundred and twenty parts per million, a fraction,

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<v Speaker 3>a very small fraction, and in fintesimal fraction, and almost

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<v Speaker 3>all of that is naturally occurring.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is the Clean Air Act apparently authorizes the

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<v Speaker 1>EVA to regularly pollutants like let's say, real pollutants ozone,

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<v Speaker 1>particulate matter, sulfur dioxide in others that, in the words

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<v Speaker 1>of the Clean Air Act, may reasonably be anticipated to

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<v Speaker 1>endanger public health or welfare. And the point of them

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<v Speaker 1>removing carbon dioxide from this list, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how kind of a list in the first place, Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you can explain that to my listeners, is because carbon

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<v Speaker 1>dioxide does not endanger public health or welfare, it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been included in the list of greenhouse gasses from

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<v Speaker 1>the get go.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it shouldn't have been.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know the EPA, which, by the way, like

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<v Speaker 3>all agencies created by Congress, but.

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<v Speaker 2>At the idea of a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Named Richard Nixon, a Republican, to clean up the air.

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<v Speaker 3>And thanks to certain aspects of our climate laws, we

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<v Speaker 3>the rivers are clean, the air is clean, we're enjoying life.

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<v Speaker 3>But the problem is people want to take this too far.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, others came up with the idea that, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>let's add CO two to the list, and so it's

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<v Speaker 3>called the endangerment finding, right, and because it endangers public health,

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<v Speaker 3>But it doesn't, and it never has.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So why put her on the list was to

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<v Speaker 1>gain more control over our lives. I mean that seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be the only direction we can go. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I always to step back from that question and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a gain control our lives, why in the

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<v Speaker 1>hell do they care what kind of you know, fill

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<v Speaker 1>in the blank appliance I am using, or anything else

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<v Speaker 1>by way of activity? If the if the result is

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<v Speaker 1>just producing a little bit more CO two, which has

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<v Speaker 1>no impact on humanity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, while there are people we can

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<v Speaker 3>bring people into the show that would be adamant that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's what's behind temperature rises in climate change.

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<v Speaker 3>It's behind this, It's behind that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The answer is it's an anti industrial policy. Think of

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<v Speaker 3>think of the far radical left, the people that want

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<v Speaker 3>to move us back to the pre industrial age. Think

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<v Speaker 3>of the anti capitalists, i e. Occupy Wall Street people.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all the same group.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the anti consumption crowd. Let's to me bringing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna stay out loud. I've said it before. This

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<v Speaker 1>comes to no surprise that people know that I've articulated

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<v Speaker 1>my feelings on this matter. They are this collective group

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<v Speaker 1>who claim to be in with great concern over the

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<v Speaker 1>change in temperature around the globe. We're all going to

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<v Speaker 1>die because the temperature is going to get warm. And

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<v Speaker 1>they want to go after business and industry, and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to make a connection between carbon dioxide and which

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<v Speaker 1>is literally involved in every activity we do to shut

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<v Speaker 1>down consumption. They view us all as you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>cockroaches consuming all the world's resources, and we need to

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<v Speaker 1>put a stop to that. Capitalism feeds that. Capitalism is

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<v Speaker 1>based on the building and an expansion of capital, which

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily includes the building and expansion and use of natural

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<v Speaker 1>resources in order to acquire capital. Capitalism bad. How do

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<v Speaker 1>we go after capitalism and create this Marxist utopia they're

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<v Speaker 1>all looking for. Well, let's just kick the legs out

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<v Speaker 1>of business and industry generally speaking, period. And the only

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<v Speaker 1>way we can get there because we have been successful

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<v Speaker 1>at getting rid of components in particulate that may endanger

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<v Speaker 1>public health or welfare. Some of the plutants mentioned before,

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<v Speaker 1>we've taken care of the vast majority of those. We

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<v Speaker 1>need something that's impossible to take care of carbon dioxide.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Well, that's the entire point behind it is that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't really.

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<v Speaker 1>Get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't really get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So if we go back to the pre industrial age,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm talking, you know, early eighteen hundreds, CO two

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<v Speaker 3>in the atmosphere was about two hundred and eighty to

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred parts per million. We're now at four to twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>After all this stuff that we've done all over the world.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we've saved a lot of people through advances

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<v Speaker 3>in technology, through industrialization, through medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>And on and on and on.

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<v Speaker 3>So okay, all of that has increased CO two by

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<v Speaker 3>about what I don't do higher math three hundred parts

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<v Speaker 3>per million to four hundred and twenty parts per million,

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<v Speaker 3>which is still less than one half a one percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the Earth's atmosphere. And plants love it. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the other thing. The more CO two is in the atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 3>the more plant life emerges. It's off balancing.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly because plants do what they produce oxygen AH, which

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<v Speaker 1>we need.

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<v Speaker 3>And they store CO two they take it out. They're scrubbers.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need direct air capture where we're man made

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<v Speaker 3>trying to rip CO two out of the atmosphere. Planet

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<v Speaker 3>a tree, planet a tree, right, don't they want to

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<v Speaker 3>do that anyway, don't see That's.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying. You know, more CO two is good

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<v Speaker 1>for the environment in the sense that it is conducive

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<v Speaker 1>to plant growth. And they're all worried about us running

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<v Speaker 1>out of food. They're all worried about us knocking down

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<v Speaker 1>the rainforest, even though they'll knock down the rainforest to

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<v Speaker 1>build a highway so they can get to the environmental meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all going to have the global meeting down and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just the hypocrisy is insane. Yeah, Brigand

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<v Speaker 1>but ultimately, if we have more CO two, we get

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<v Speaker 1>encourage plant growth, which is again good for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. And there go again more oxygen.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we'll have to see what happens, because you know

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<v Speaker 3>what the EPA is proposed to do. They have to

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<v Speaker 3>change the regulation because the Obama people put it into

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<v Speaker 3>and there is a process that you have to go through,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure this will end up in litigation as well,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're proposing reversing the Obama era endangerment finding that

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<v Speaker 3>classify CO two as a pollutant. And that's really what

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about. It's not a pollutant under the Clean

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<v Speaker 3>Air Act.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no authority within the Clean Air Act to regulate

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<v Speaker 1>something that isn't defined as a pollutant. And you can't

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<v Speaker 1>turn CO two into a pollutant, regardless of how you

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<v Speaker 1>want to characterize it.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Bregan Account, Hudson Institute Hudson dot orgs where you're find

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<v Speaker 1>negotiating tariff and trade arrangements with various countries around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what, there's a seven hundred and fifty billion

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<v Speaker 2>That's significant, there is. That's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think what we tend to forget and I

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<v Speaker 3>trade imbalance that means that we give other countries more

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, whether it's a car, a John Deere tractor,

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody else from outside the country's paying an American company

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<v Speaker 3>that brings revenue into the country, that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a whole trade imbounce, right indeed. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>We also happened to act as their police force of

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<v Speaker 1>I've been stationed in Europe myself. I'm sure we have

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<v Speaker 2>We do so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's akin to telling your loving adult child who's

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<v Speaker 3>Pay for your own stuff, and that involves trade. Hey

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<v Speaker 3>we've been giving you guys such big discounts. We're kicking

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<v Speaker 3>and conceptually there's nothing wrong with that. It does make

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, European Union is a is the business model for

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I just got back from France last month

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<v Speaker 3>where I speaking at an economic conference, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the idea of a European free trade block was a

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<v Speaker 3>and that should be a harbinger, a warning for America

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were independent countries with their own independent currencies,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like creating a federal government out of whole cloth

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<v Speaker 1>we have here. You know, we got that whole tenth Amendment,

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<v Speaker 1>our individual states if it's not a power reserve by

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<v Speaker 1>the federal government over there. Brussels has basically taken over.

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<v Speaker 1>They're basically taking over. And what's interesting with this US

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<v Speaker 1>EU trade deal, which was made with Brussels, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is that a lot of it will stick because Brussels

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<v Speaker 1>controls a lot of you know, controls the tariffs controls

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<v Speaker 1>what can be sold. And you know, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>the Europeans to jump up down and scream about America. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>try selling agriculture or wine in France. Try sell America

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, got it. But what this does is it resets

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<v Speaker 3>the playing field. It rebalances trade, gets American companies more

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<v Speaker 3>access to European markets. Now here's where we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>have to take away and see approaches. It requires Europe

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<v Speaker 3>to buy more American stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But will they.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good question. Now the devil's in the details, and

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<v Speaker 1>keep your popcorn out and see what events unfold as

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<v Speaker 1>we move forward. But if we have something that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have, affordable liquid natural gas, then they'll buy it

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<v Speaker 1>from us. In a capitalist market where you know, laws

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<v Speaker 1>of supplying the man just actually dominate rather than trade rules,

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<v Speaker 1>regulations and tariffs. If we've got something they want, they

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and Brian, you know what happened in Europe is

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<v Speaker 3>you could frack in Europe. Netherlands, the Groniken fields were

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<v Speaker 3>This was their way of burning. This is akin to

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<v Speaker 3>burning the Viking boats on as right, And if we

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<v Speaker 3>just don't use this stuff, something else will pop up. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>now they're realizing that something else was actually Russian oil

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<v Speaker 3>and gas. That's not vogue these days. So now their

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<v Speaker 3>economies contracted significantly. The industrialization of Europe occurred after twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two, and the price of energy went through the roof,

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<v Speaker 3>and it went through the roof, and it stayed through

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<v Speaker 3>the roof because they said, no, we're not gonna buy

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<v Speaker 3>long term contracts, We're gonna buy stuff on the spot

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<v Speaker 3>market because we're not gonna need it very long. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the highest price that you can pay for energy exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And now they're like, well, you know, maybe we ought

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<v Speaker 1>That they personally decide they were going to cut their

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<v Speaker 1>where they now have to buy from US. Great, good job,

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<v Speaker 1>Station thirty two fifty five KIRCD Talk Station Hudson dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>If you find the Hudson Institute online, you should bring

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move over to India and their dependence on Russian oil.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that impact this whole tariff and negotiations and

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<v Speaker 1>things that are going on because Trump is doing everything

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<v Speaker 1>he can to try to, you know, call out Putin

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<v Speaker 1>for his refuse to end this war with Ukraine and

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<v Speaker 1>threatening additional sanctions. So far, Putin's like got his metaphorical

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's really interesting because what allows Russia to continue

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<v Speaker 2>Their trade. Oh, we're just talking about trade.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And China and India are the two largest purchasers

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<v Speaker 3>in DC this week with the Indian government and talking

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<v Speaker 3>about trying to get a trade deal they were putting

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<v Speaker 3>on their full dog and pony show to try to

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<v Speaker 3>avoid the Trump sanctions, which did not go well, talking

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<v Speaker 3>about how well, yeah, they used to sort of be

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<v Speaker 3>aligned with Russia, but they would say things like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>our line with Russia, the curve has turned downward, while

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<v Speaker 3>our curve with America is increasing. And the bottom line

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<v Speaker 3>is they say, hey, we just go out and buy oil.

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<v Speaker 3>We just buy cheap oil. And you know Russian oil

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<v Speaker 3>is pretty cheap, yeah, because it's sanctioned, right, But the

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<v Speaker 3>deal is this, they buy more than they need. They

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<v Speaker 3>went in twenty twenty two from really not even purchasing

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<v Speaker 3>Russian oil to now they purchased forty percent of Russian

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<v Speaker 3>oil exports, twice as much as they need. So they

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<v Speaker 3>refine it and sell it back on the market as diesel,

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<v Speaker 3>jet fuel, and gasoline. They're whitewashing Russian oil.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like money laundering. They're laundering it. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're moving a killing. Our Indian refined gasoline sales subject

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<v Speaker 1>to a sanction.

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<v Speaker 3>They hadn't been until this last mentioned eighteenth round of sanctions.

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<v Speaker 3>So the EU has sanctioned several refineries and has now

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<v Speaker 3>said okay, you guys have to prove the origin of

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<v Speaker 3>the oil moving forward. Okay, so they're on it, but

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<v Speaker 3>it took a little while. Yeah, well you can listen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like the concept of a loophole in the tax code.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it isn't you know. It usually is something

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<v Speaker 3>that they failed to take into account, but you're not

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<v Speaker 3>breaking the law by using it.

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<v Speaker 1>It just exists. There's a hole that allows them to

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<v Speaker 1>evade the tariff because of the way it was, So

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<v Speaker 1>they're plugging the hole apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, on one hand, you can say, well, great,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are being great capitalists. You're buying oil at

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<v Speaker 3>a disaccount. You're making a killing on your refining margins,

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<v Speaker 3>and boy, that's pretty capitalistic.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes perfect sense to me.

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<v Speaker 3>But what Trump is really saying is, look, the Indian

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<v Speaker 3>market is closed to the US market.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't buy our energy.

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<v Speaker 3>You're dealing in questionable energy products where you know where

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<v Speaker 3>they're coming from, and we want you to buy US energy,

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<v Speaker 3>not Russian.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, why are we closed to the Indian energy market?

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<v Speaker 1>They made that rule, they said we will not purchase

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<v Speaker 1>US manufactured products.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there are a couple of different reasons. One they're

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<v Speaker 3>a part of the Bricks Nations right, which was formed

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<v Speaker 3>by eleven countries Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Saudi Aradia,

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<v Speaker 3>Egypt and the UAE. So they're sort of on another team.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, that's all well and good, but if they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking out for their own best interest, which anybody does,

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<v Speaker 1>we were able to compete in the energy market. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, we had a mechanism whereby we could sell

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<v Speaker 1>our products and beat the Russian price. Right. Don't you

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<v Speaker 1>think they'd by default they would want to work with

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<v Speaker 1>us and buy our stuff if it's better for them economically.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they would, except that we can't beat the Russian

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<v Speaker 3>price right because Russia doesn't have ANYPA.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have and I get all that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like why manufacturer move to China, they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything by way of you know, financially expensive rules and

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<v Speaker 1>regulations and processes in place, that makes perfect sense, But

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<v Speaker 1>just by way of principle, we shouldn't be barred as

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<v Speaker 1>a supplier at the outset that shouldn't even be in place.

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<v Speaker 3>That shouldn't be in place, and a lot of our

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<v Speaker 3>products that we want to sell into India have been

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<v Speaker 3>barred India, along with the other bricks countries, have also

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<v Speaker 3>been pushing an alternative currency to get away from the dollar.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, but you know, India isn't a tough spot,

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<v Speaker 3>right They've relied on they had to rely on Russia

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<v Speaker 3>for military and then this was raised like, well, gee,

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<v Speaker 3>Russia's allies as Russia, Russia hasn't come to the assistance

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<v Speaker 3>of anybody since World War Two, to be honest, when

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<v Speaker 1>Seven fifty five KRCD talk station bring him a gown

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<v Speaker 1>from the Hudson Institute in Studio. Former Federal regulator current

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<v Speaker 1>energy policy advisor Leeds the Initiative American Energy Security Hudson

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<v Speaker 1>Institute and also a professor at Miami University. Moving over

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<v Speaker 1>to hydrogen, it's going to save the world, right Brigan.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely, you didn't get the memo. I just think

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<v Speaker 3>of the Hindenburgh, you know, that would be what most

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<v Speaker 3>people think of when we think about hydrogen. Is that

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<v Speaker 3>catastrophic accident that pretty much killed everybody on board.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So how is it different and better allegedly as

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<v Speaker 1>a an energy producer than say what we're currently used to,

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<v Speaker 1>which is maybe fossil fuels.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the idea is, and we've been using it for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>We talk about a fuel cell at the International Space

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<v Speaker 3>Station or in the Apollo days. Fuel cells are hydrogen based.

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<v Speaker 3>What we're doing is we're burning it to release energy,

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<v Speaker 3>and fuel cells can generate electricity, and as we know,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody on a certain side of the aisle is into electricity, right,

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<v Speaker 3>we got to electrify everything, yeah, uh huh yeah, And

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<v Speaker 3>so it reacts with oxygen. It produces heat and water vapor,

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<v Speaker 3>and in fuel cells, hydrogen oxygen react to electrochemically and

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<v Speaker 3>thereby producing electricity, heat and water. That's the idea. The

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<v Speaker 3>problem with it is it takes more energy to make

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<v Speaker 3>hydrogen than it does from just using whatever the initial

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<v Speaker 3>fuel sources to begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So quite often hydrogen's made from let's say liquid

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<v Speaker 1>natural gas. Yeah. In fact, you use the liquid natural

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<v Speaker 1>gas and not turned into hydrogen, you get more out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of it, right, So shocking.

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<v Speaker 3>We can use it that's called blue hydrogen and using

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<v Speaker 3>steam methane reforming or something called autothermal reforming with carbon

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<v Speaker 3>capture in storage.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh lord. So by doing that, if you had geothermal,

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<v Speaker 1>if they could drill down far enough to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the high temperatures down below, then you wouldn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you're producing heat to begin with, because in an

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<v Speaker 3>industrial application we don't really think about this. Let's uh,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go to a an electric power station. We're heating

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<v Speaker 3>water to make steam to turn a turbine that produces electricity. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's the thing. Right. So uh, if we could

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<v Speaker 3>just get that naturally occurring from the earth where we

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<v Speaker 3>don't use any energy, you have free steam that's geothermal,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's very promising and in fact, multiple studies have

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<v Speaker 3>shown you can drill deep enough in certain areas to Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing it all that they're doing it right now.

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<v Speaker 3>But Brian, instead, we can make blue hydrogen, and we

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<v Speaker 3>can use two point five times the amount of natural

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<v Speaker 3>gas we would otherwise need. We'll capture the carbon and

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<v Speaker 3>it's called blue hydrogen or or there's a rainbow.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a rainbow. This stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Green hydrogen is produced most environmentally friendly because we're producing

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<v Speaker 3>it from solar or wind power. Let's see, we've got

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<v Speaker 3>gray hydrogen.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're getting the power from the solar and

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<v Speaker 1>the wind, like gas production, why not just put that

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<v Speaker 1>into the grid directly, as opposed to transforming it into

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<v Speaker 1>something else. And I presume during that process you lose

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<v Speaker 1>some of the energy you have gotten from the sun

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<v Speaker 1>and the wind turning it into hydrogen. Exactly because everything physics,

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<v Speaker 1>every time you go through another step, you're losing efficiency

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<v Speaker 1>and an energy waste, energy, you're interjecting costs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's absolutely correct.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole industrial process that has to be created in

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<v Speaker 1>order to create the hydrogen that you're taking from the

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<v Speaker 1>source of power, regardless of whether it's wind, sol or

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<v Speaker 1>natural gas.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh did I mention that.

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<v Speaker 3>There is some debate about this now, But you just

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<v Speaker 3>can't go out into the atmosphere and call hydrogen like

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<v Speaker 3>a dog. It doesn't show up. It's not found by itself.

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<v Speaker 3>It's bound to another chemical which requires energy to split

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<v Speaker 3>it off. And so that's why it's significantly inefficient. But hey, anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got gray hydrogen, we've got brown hydrogen, black hydrogen,

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<v Speaker 3>yellow hydrogen, pink, white, and turquoise.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me guess each and every one of those

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<v Speaker 1>goes to the exact same form of process we just

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<v Speaker 1>walk through with gas or solar wind to produce hydrogen.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a there's something in between that is using up

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<v Speaker 1>the energy. You're gonna love this one. Pink or some

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<v Speaker 1>people call it purple or red. We're using nuclear energy

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<v Speaker 1>to make hydrogen because that totally makes sense. That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Well, yeah, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff's pretty common sense. I'm all about nukes, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody listens to me knows about it. Small modular reactors

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<v Speaker 1>or the wave of the future, small footprints sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny little piece of land generating unlimited amounts of electricity.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need to convert that electricity into hydrogen to

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<v Speaker 1>that and I don't know if we have time talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it, but we can do. Let's get to that

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<v Speaker 1>because it's one of my favorite topics when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to energy production. Why do we deny ourselves the best

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<v Speaker 1>possible mechanism to produce electricity with the least possible impact

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<v Speaker 1>Seven fifty one fifty five KRCD talk station. Before we

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<v Speaker 1>get back to Brigham an from the Hudson Institute and

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<v Speaker 1>talk energy policy, notably on the topic of nuclear Let's

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<v Speaker 1>cat yourself as a crime stopper this week Bad Girl

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<v Speaker 1>of the Week. Welcome back Officer Tivity Green from the

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinni Police Department who are looking for Tivity.

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning, Cincinnati Police District one investigators are looking forward

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<v Speaker 5>to Miko Rally. Miss Rally is wanted for felonious assault,

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<v Speaker 5>sell any drug possession, and misdemeanor falsification. Investigators say during

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<v Speaker 5>a phystical leducation, Miss Raley cut the victim with a knife.

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<v Speaker 5>Tamika Rally. Tamika Rally is a female Black She's thirty

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<v Speaker 5>nine years old. She's four seven and one hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>ten pounds. Tamik o' Rally has a history of assault

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<v Speaker 5>and disorly conduct, and was last known to live on

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<v Speaker 5>Cobraine Avenue. In Camp Washington. If anyone has information on

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<v Speaker 5>where police can find tamik o'rally, please call crime Stoppers

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<v Speaker 1>management problems. Get off the street, give the police an assist.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you, Tivity Green and each and ever remember

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<v Speaker 1>the Cincinni Police Department would love what you do for

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<v Speaker 1>the community. We'll be looking for if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>see her. Need the information fifty five cars dot com

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<v Speaker 1>on the blog page. Back to bring them down a

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<v Speaker 1>few more words here. On energy policy, you were pivoting

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<v Speaker 1>over to we were talking a little bit about nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>at the tail end of that hydrogen creation conversation. You

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<v Speaker 1>had a few comments you wanted to interject.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was just going to say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think there has been a huge resurgence in the

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<v Speaker 3>interest in nuclear power, driven by the need for AI

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<v Speaker 3>AI energy security. A point I made in France earlier

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<v Speaker 3>last month was the world has never used a less energy,

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<v Speaker 3>only more. And actually France knows this because they're almost

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<v Speaker 3>eighty percent nuclear power right now. And you know when

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<v Speaker 3>Spain in the middle of the day the clouds game

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<v Speaker 3>and the wind stopped and they lost their grid, it

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<v Speaker 3>was actually exporting nuclear power from France and alloud Spain

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<v Speaker 3>to restart their power grid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like Pennsylvania producing enough electricity to cover the

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<v Speaker 1>Northeast region who has not been able to produce enough

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<v Speaker 1>of its own electricity. It's kind of sorry state of affairs,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, after a three mile island more recently Fukushima,

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<v Speaker 3>the Chernobyl thing, people kind of got, you know, don't

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<v Speaker 3>know about nuclear power. But we are now up to

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<v Speaker 3>a Gen three plus design. We just put the first

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<v Speaker 3>two down in Georgia, the Voctal plant. These are one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent passive, meaning if you cut all the power,

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<v Speaker 3>it fails safe to safe. And we're really enriching nuclear

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<v Speaker 3>fuel to three to five percent now, which is much

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<v Speaker 3>lower level than before. Remember that conversation about Iran needing

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<v Speaker 3>sixty plus per Yeah, and you were in that kid,

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<v Speaker 3>that's I'm raising the flag on that one. But and

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<v Speaker 3>SMRs are even better because these small modular reactors are

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<v Speaker 3>built in factories. We can we you know, you approve

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<v Speaker 3>the license. The problem in America is every reactor's different, YEP,

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<v Speaker 3>and it goes through a different licensing.

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<v Speaker 2>These are like legos. These are like legos.

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<v Speaker 3>So we woke up one day and went, huh, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, why don't we get in the car approved?

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<v Speaker 3>And then we'll just replicate it exactly and we don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to go through all this.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>They can be deployed to different places, they can be

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<v Speaker 3>stacked on top of each other, expanded, and we're looking

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<v Speaker 3>at at some of those heading out there pretty quickly,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's going to be a real game changer.

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<v Speaker 2>They last fifty plus years. Equal.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been powering America's military ships since the nineteen fifties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard any problems with that, have you, Brigham?

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<v Speaker 3>No, we have.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't uh uh every submarine, Yeah, every aircraft carrier YEP,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one that I landed on. Yeah, nuclear powered,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And they're really fast too. They are fast,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're small. You can fit one inside of a ship. Look, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have to be giant. They don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>have giant cooling towers on them, et cetera. Et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, if you don't build them in

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<v Speaker 1>its tsunami zone, you don't have to worry about things

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<v Speaker 1>like Fukushima happening. I'm what idiot was in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>site selection on that one. Well, yeah, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>had a history of tsunamis in Japan, I mean going

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<v Speaker 1>back thousands of years.

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<v Speaker 3>Duh, absolutely, And so you know, concerns about uh where

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<v Speaker 3>you place them, the security of the facility, cyber stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got to deal with all of that, of

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<v Speaker 2>course you do.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have to find a place to uh put

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<v Speaker 3>the spent fuel, although some of the new reactor fuels

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent. We're into recycling, right, I know, you

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<v Speaker 3>can be one hundred percent recycle the fuel.

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<v Speaker 1>No mass such a small mass of quote unquote waste collectively,

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<v Speaker 1>it's yes, just infinitestinimal well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if your listeners have heard this

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<v Speaker 2>or not, but even with the old stuff, and even

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<v Speaker 2>with contaminated waste water and other things, all of it

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<v Speaker 2>would fit six feet high on a football field. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not talking for the entire country, not that much.

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<v Speaker 1>Brigham Accown armed with your facts that fly in the

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<v Speaker 1>face of global warming, alarmist. I appreciate you coming on

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<v Speaker 1>the program and doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>You're always welcome here, Brigham. We'll be looking for your podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Charged Conversations produced by executive producer Joe Strekker the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five Cars Morning Show and let him produce your podcast. Brigham,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, sir for all the work that you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks having back on real soon, my friend. Enjoy your weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't away. Bill Sites on property taxes. He was appointed

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<v Speaker 1>by Governor de Wine to head the commission to look

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<v Speaker 1>into ways that they can help us deal with our

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<v Speaker 1>property taxes after vetoing two measures in the budget that

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<v Speaker 1>would have helped us deal to some degree with our

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<v Speaker 1>property taxes. Bill Sites up next will be called the

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve Day War. I suppose that's what we were nicknaming

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<v Speaker 1>it already.

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<v Speaker 2>Another update at the top of the hour, the use

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<v Speaker 2>of military force.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five Cars the talk station. This report is sponsored
