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<v Speaker 1>Oh bed of Fessor.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult

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<v Speaker 2>of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan Jacob. Jacob. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be talking about some Mayans today, Bro, is this

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<v Speaker 2>my calendar shit or what man?

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<v Speaker 1>So in the same vibe? Yes, But you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about aliens here recently, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Amuamua and Atlas and these intergalactic interstellar types of things.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it'd be interesting to look back at an

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<v Speaker 1>ancient Mayan source that. And there's some debate whether this

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<v Speaker 1>was just some really crazy artwork, if what we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at is the first remnants of a time machine or

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<v Speaker 1>the first remnants of a spacecraft. Okay, And we've touched

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<v Speaker 1>on this topic before kind of been passed and we've

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<v Speaker 1>never really done an in depth look at this, but

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<v Speaker 1>good call members. Today we are going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Lord Pacall's time machine.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, dude, Well let's go. I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a fun one. Anytime we can talk about like

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<v Speaker 2>ancient time machines, we can't be the first people that

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<v Speaker 2>have ever thought about time travel in that sense, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>so you would imagine that it would go back and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's not time travel. Maybe it's they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get to other worlds or other you know, dimensions, or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they were trying to do, because we know that

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<v Speaker 2>they were definitely like it's it's wild whenever you look

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<v Speaker 2>into certain like things that they would do to put

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<v Speaker 2>themselves in a different headspace, so like to put themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in a trance in a sense, like whether it be

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<v Speaker 2>like shamanic drumming or some kind of meditation or some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of prayer. It was always to try and shift,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the vibration that you are, maybe to correlate

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<v Speaker 2>it with your God or you know, your planet or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was always some kind of resonant frequency. And shit,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been really diving deep into that lately. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like fascinated by that stuff. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about today, but it's maybe pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe yes, maybe no. Here's the thing, this might be

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<v Speaker 1>one of those instances where science and technology blend with

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<v Speaker 1>the spiritual and esoteric. The thing is, we don't one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent know, because what we're going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about is the carvings on the sarcophagus of King Pacall himself.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll hear it used interchangeably today, good Cult members, Lord

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<v Speaker 1>Pacall or King Pucll. Either way you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, And the actual name for him is much

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<v Speaker 1>longer and I can't pronounce it. So Pacall is the

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<v Speaker 1>English moniker that people have put on him. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a nickname. So that bes sa the etchings on his sarcophagus.

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<v Speaker 1>This could be all indicative and symbolic, esoterically symbolic of

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<v Speaker 1>sigils that was being used for some divine purpose. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but it appears that he is using some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of machinery as he's doing this. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to make a comment if my if

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<v Speaker 2>my mic sounds a little strange today, I just got

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<v Speaker 2>this new travel setup. I'm over in Louisiana, spending the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend at my sister's with my kids and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>So forgive me if we sound like shit. This is

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<v Speaker 2>this is just uh, we're learning the new technology and

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<v Speaker 2>new systems and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair, all right. So first things first, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a quick little YouTube short now I'm gonna play to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the overarching theme of this before we dive deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's learn together, shall we?

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<v Speaker 3>Lord Pacall Spaceship time Machine, Janab Pakal one of the

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<v Speaker 3>smoking Guns regarding ancient technology is perhaps.

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<v Speaker 1>The most overlooked.

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<v Speaker 3>The sarcophagus of King Pacol is one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>talked about ancient subjects When it comes to ancient alien theory.

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<v Speaker 3>The sarcophagus lid of this Great Mayan ruler has some

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<v Speaker 3>pretty curious depictions that looks like a person operating a

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<v Speaker 3>complex machine, complete with breathing apparatus and even flames bursting

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<v Speaker 3>out of the bottom like a modern day rocket launch.

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<v Speaker 3>Ancient alien theorists propose that it clearly depicts King Pacoll

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<v Speaker 3>in some sort of spaceship during takeoff, and they argue

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<v Speaker 3>that his hands appear to be manipulating some sort of machinery.

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<v Speaker 3>His foot is located on a pedal while he is

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<v Speaker 3>breathing through some sort of breathing apparatus.

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<v Speaker 4>On.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're gonna dive in and break it all down,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, but let's start off with the basics. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with the historic precedence, because this isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>mythical character. This is an actual human being that really

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<v Speaker 1>walked the earth. His tomb has been found. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just written in the legends and lore of this tribe.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that is historically documented as far as

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. Right, So just right off the start, let's

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<v Speaker 1>learn a little bit about Kinich Janab Pakal And I

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<v Speaker 1>hope I pronounced that right. That's why they just say

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<v Speaker 1>Lord Pakal using like his last name or a surname

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<v Speaker 1>if you will. But all right, and this guy, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, he's not just in the myths and legends.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually did a lot of things for the tribe

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talked about for years later. So let's learn

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Kinich Janob pacall Uh was the Maya king of Palin

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<v Speaker 2>palan Ka.

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<v Speaker 1>I think palan k And also for reference, they even

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<v Speaker 1>know the exact date that he was born because the

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<v Speaker 1>Mayan calendar was so exact. So he was born on

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty third of March six' oh three B c

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<v Speaker 1>six' OH three bc and he died on the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>First of march six 't EIGHTY three BC. Or ce,

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<v Speaker 1>i'm sorry THAT'S AN ad i. Keep forgetting they change.

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<v Speaker 1>Things up it's not a. D anymore it's. Common era

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<v Speaker 1>so this isn't like way back in the ancients or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that it was from six OH three ad to

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<v Speaker 1>six eighty three A D.

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<v Speaker 2>COMMON era, i mean why do they got to just

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<v Speaker 2>keep on, changeing shit, you know just because as, it IS.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Ad is latin for, anno domini which means a

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<v Speaker 1>year Of, our lord meaning after the Birth. Of christ

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<v Speaker 1>and there are some people out there that get upset

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<v Speaker 1>that You put jesus. Into everything so they, started, saying

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<v Speaker 1>fine we HAVE, the bce and we HAVE the ce before,

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<v Speaker 1>common era and then the.

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<v Speaker 2>Common era oh, my god oh whatever? About, it yeah that's. That's.

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<v Speaker 2>Silly anyhow he Was the mayan king Of palin k

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<v Speaker 2>in the modern day State, Of, chiapas mexico also Known

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<v Speaker 2>as pascal Or, pay call which means shield And pay Call.

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<v Speaker 2>The great he is the most famous for raising the

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<v Speaker 2>city Of pilin k known As Bah.

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<v Speaker 1>Bah, Call yeah i'm, telling you some of these pronunciations

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<v Speaker 1>we are talking about the people that worship Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>cacoalaco and all, these things like we're gonna butcher the

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<v Speaker 1>pronunciation of some of these things in places, and deities

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<v Speaker 1>just so we're, all, clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right so he's Known from he is most famous

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<v Speaker 2>for raising the city Of, pilin k known as bacal

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<v Speaker 2>from relative obscurity to a, great power his building projects

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<v Speaker 2>projects in, the city especially the temple Of, the inscriptions

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<v Speaker 2>and his laboratory craved or. Elaborately, Carved damn. I'm tripping

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<v Speaker 2>i'm on a, smaller computer so that the print is.

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<v Speaker 2>So tiny but there. We go that's a little. Bit

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<v Speaker 2>better old man, eyest hours old bo getting. Up there

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<v Speaker 2>so and his elaborately carved, sarcophagus lid which has been

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<v Speaker 2>interpreted by some to depict an ancient astronaut riding on a.

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<v Speaker 2>Rocket ship pacall assumed the throne Of pilin k at

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<v Speaker 2>the age of twelve in SIX, fifteen ce and ruled

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<v Speaker 2>successfully until his death at the age. Of eighty he

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<v Speaker 2>was married to The lady Sabaku, a jaw and had

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<v Speaker 2>three sons who seemed who succeeded him. In rule the Ruins,

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<v Speaker 2>of palanque visible in the, modern day are only a

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<v Speaker 2>small fraction of the, ancient city developed and Expanded by

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<v Speaker 2>pecall during. His reign the rest of the vast metropolis

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<v Speaker 2>remains unexcavated in the. Surrounding jungle palanka was a city

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<v Speaker 2>of modest Size when pacall took, the throne and it

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<v Speaker 2>was through his efforts that it became one of the

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<v Speaker 2>great urban Centers, of mesoamerica rivaling even the might and Splendor.

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<v Speaker 1>Of, tacaul indeed so just so, we're clear he is

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<v Speaker 1>not a made up. Fictitious character all, Right now i'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna read a little bit about his youth and his ascension.

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<v Speaker 1>To power pacall was the Son of Lady. SUK kuk

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<v Speaker 1>i Swear, to god is that actually something? Got.

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<v Speaker 2>Here sokkukkuk i'm you're. Summoning her you're summoning her every

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<v Speaker 2>time said action as, being, done.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir possibly are you summoning her? To? Do, Okay anyway

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<v Speaker 1>so he was her son who reigned as Queen of

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<v Speaker 1>palank from six twelve to six POINT. Fifteen ad in,

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<v Speaker 1>six eleven the reigning king died and the, Legitimate heir

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<v Speaker 1>pacall was too young to take, the throne so she

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<v Speaker 1>was like the queen region for. Three years scholars have

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<v Speaker 1>deciphered inscriptions that make it Clear that palink suffered a

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<v Speaker 1>significant military defeat in six eleven and then lost, their

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<v Speaker 1>king A Jen, yold mott the. Following year this upset

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<v Speaker 1>the balance of, the city which the next ruler would need.

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<v Speaker 1>To restore in, Six,' Twelve pacall suck KuK's father. Took,

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<v Speaker 1>the Throne wow janab Pacall the, Queen regent's. Father suk's, father,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying dude i'm trying to not. Say suck cock

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<v Speaker 1>i'm really trying. To keep. It you know this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the fancy this is the formal way, Of saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir. Suk, kiok Yeah Anyway the queen regent's father took

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<v Speaker 1>the throne but died. That same year inscriptions indicate a

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<v Speaker 1>monarch Known as muan met assumed, ruler after Janapacalled But

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<v Speaker 1>Asman what mawan matt is a supernatural. Figure symbolizing prosperity

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<v Speaker 1>it is thought that This Refers, to lady sukuk who

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<v Speaker 1>returned The balance to palanque. After the upheaval she ruled

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<v Speaker 1>for three years until her, son reached maturity which at

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<v Speaker 1>that time was the. Age of twelve The dynasty of

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<v Speaker 1>palanque believed that the rule descended from an ancestor Known As,

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<v Speaker 1>the first mother and, so female rulers, though not common.

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<v Speaker 1>Were not unusual, it, is understood however that a female

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<v Speaker 1>monarch would step down as soon as a male heir

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<v Speaker 1>reached the. Age Of maturity lady sukuk seemed to have

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<v Speaker 1>continued her to guide her son once he, took the

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<v Speaker 1>throne as indicated By, inscriptions throughout palanke and she did

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<v Speaker 1>so until her death in six point. Forty a d upon,

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<v Speaker 1>Taking the throne pakal almost instantly began building enormous and

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<v Speaker 1>elaborately worked monuments in order to celebrate both the city's

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<v Speaker 1>past and his family's legitimate claim To rule The Mianas scholar,

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<v Speaker 1>jean Stewart rites after prakal, Took the throne palanke became

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<v Speaker 1>one of the great Urban, centers OF mesoamerica, which i

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's right, off the, rip. That's insane right continuing

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<v Speaker 1>this as a, Direct quote here pacall emphatically traced his

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<v Speaker 1>Humans and to i'm sorry and other rulers also found

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<v Speaker 1>it was wise to. ESTABLISH divine ancestors a mayor ruler

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<v Speaker 1>to control the supernatural forces. Of the, universe in rituals

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<v Speaker 1>he nurtured and, glorified the gods seeming to seeking to

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<v Speaker 1>maintain the always precarious balance of nature in. An Agricultural

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<v Speaker 1>society since pacall's father was lord but, not the king

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<v Speaker 1>other Noble families in palaque claimed they had more right to.

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<v Speaker 1>Rule than, he In response both pacall and His eldest

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<v Speaker 1>son kinich Kan. Balam, The second wow how?

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<v Speaker 1>All, right Yep nope the second would make sure to

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<v Speaker 1>of the buildings and monuments in Palate, including The palace

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<v Speaker 1>Inscriptions now The temple of inscriptions is a very h

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very, interesting, Case Study right if, i'm Not

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<v Speaker 1>mistaken That temple of inscriptions helped us a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>understand and translate a Lot of the. Mayan hieroglyphic alphabet

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<v Speaker 1>so This is the Temple of The. Inscriptions, in palateque oh.

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<v Speaker 2>That looks, a, lot like oh what's? That cuckoo klon

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of these pyramids and things like That in meso

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<v Speaker 1>america they all kind of had a very similar. Look

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<v Speaker 1>TO them so i agree with. You on, that but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it would. Be pretty interesting it would be pretty similar Because, this, is,

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<v Speaker 1>klon i think guess what it's called or. Something like

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<v Speaker 1>that that's that's Also. What's, in, costamaya okay, yeah you're

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<v Speaker 1>right so. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine, excuse ME yeah so. I visited it. IT was

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<v Speaker 2>awesome i didn't go on the day that the snake

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<v Speaker 2>was climbing, up, THE stairs THOUGH i wish i.

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<v Speaker 1>Could have done one. Day, A year, so i mean

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<v Speaker 2>It right Right so The, temple of. Inscriptions it says

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<v Speaker 2>this focus on recording the history of the city through

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<v Speaker 2>architecture is especially notable In the famous Temple. Of the

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<v Speaker 2>inscriptions construction began in SIX, seventy five ce and it

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<v Speaker 2>was purposely Built as The. Tomb Of pacal The temple

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<v Speaker 2>of inscriptions is a pyramid with a small building, at

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<v Speaker 2>the top inscribed with the Second longest continuous mayan text

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<v Speaker 2>yet Uncovered, in meso america the longest being the hieroglyphic

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<v Speaker 2>staircase at The City of Copin.

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<v Speaker 1>Coppin copin', i'm not, sure, BUT yeah so i mean

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<v Speaker 1>there is that one that we've talked, about before too

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<v Speaker 1>a massive staircase that we thought had a bunch of,

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<v Speaker 1>artwork on it and then once we realized that we

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<v Speaker 1>could decipher this alphabet and, read the words, it's, like,

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<v Speaker 1>no no no they built this to. Tell a story

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<v Speaker 1>these pictures. Are actually Words it's, like Egyptian Hieroglyphs but

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<v Speaker 1>meso american styled. All these, things but Yeah so The

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<v Speaker 1>temple of inscriptions has The second longest mayan texts that

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<v Speaker 1>we've recovered, at to date.

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<v Speaker 2>An actual, like you know descriptive monument of. Sorts, or

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<v Speaker 2>tempa oh it, is a temple. So it says for

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<v Speaker 2>a century after palin, qu was discovered the pyramid was

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<v Speaker 2>thought to be a religious center, in the city as the,

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<v Speaker 2>inscriptions were Undecipherable until the Mexican Archaeologist or alberto ruiz

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<v Speaker 2>recognized that the walls of the small temple continued down.

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<v Speaker 2>Below the floor he discovered that the platform the platform

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<v Speaker 2>of the floor had drill holes which had been sealed,

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<v Speaker 2>by stone plugs and Surmised that the maya had lowered

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<v Speaker 2>the floor into, place with ropes perhaps a to seal

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<v Speaker 2>a royal tomb between nineteen forty eight and NINETEEN. Fifty,

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<v Speaker 2>two ce well what is that like seventy? Five, years,

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<v Speaker 2>ago OKAY yeah. The ce shit it. Throws me off.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you for, our entire upbringing it WAS always

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<v Speaker 1>A D. And b c now all, of A sudden

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<v Speaker 1>IT'S bce AND ce and i know that's like that

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<v Speaker 1>that difficult to translate and just like memorize at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time when you're when you're so ACCUSTOMED to saying

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<v Speaker 1>bc and you just see that it ACCIDENTALLY comes.

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<v Speaker 2>OUT i find i mean, at that point Then just

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<v Speaker 2>taking god we trust off of, the dollar bills? You

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<v Speaker 2>know what i'may?

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<v Speaker 1>Fighting for? It? Are they oh they've been fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>that for years because this Is not. A christian, nation,

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<v Speaker 1>IT'S like, Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean god doesn't Have, To, be christian.

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<v Speaker 1>No he doesn't, that's the thing like you Could, say

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<v Speaker 1>in god What? Is your God that's the god. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about but people want to be some type of, way.

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<v Speaker 2>ABOUT it, right i Mean the the Freemasons. Have a

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<v Speaker 2>god it's like the light, or some Shit Isn't, IT.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally well i mean they Call it. The grand architect

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<v Speaker 1>but like the pyramid on the back, of THE dollar

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<v Speaker 1>That i of providence, is the, eye they say of.

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<v Speaker 1>The grand Architects that's. A masonic deity which but that's,

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<v Speaker 1>the Thing though the freemasons acknowledged that could be any

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<v Speaker 1>of the deities that humans recognize as Just. Like The

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<v Speaker 1>creator the hindus have a, version Of, that The, muslims

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<v Speaker 1>The jews the. Pagans or whatever everybody's, got, A creator

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<v Speaker 1>dude so like that's the One they, talk, but, Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right so? Where? Were, we okay so between nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight and, NINETEEN fifty Two a d ruiz worked

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<v Speaker 2>with his team excavating the temple and finally discovered The

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<v Speaker 2>tomb Of. Pecol the great he shone his flashlight down, into,

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<v Speaker 2>the tomb and, as he writes out of the dim

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<v Speaker 2>shadows emerged a vision from, a fairy tale a fantastic

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<v Speaker 2>ethereal site. From another world it seemed a huge magic

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<v Speaker 2>grotto carved, out of ice the walls sparkling and glistening,

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<v Speaker 2>like snow crystals delicate festoons of stalactites hung hung like tassels,

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<v Speaker 2>of a curtain and the stalagmites on the floor look

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<v Speaker 2>like drippings from. A great, candle the, impression in fact

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<v Speaker 2>was that of. An abandoned chapel across the walls marched

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<v Speaker 2>stucco figures. In low relief then my eyes saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>To the floor this was almost entirely filled with a

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<v Speaker 2>great carved stone slab.

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<v Speaker 5>In.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect, condition damn.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed the stone slab was The, sarcophagus, of pakal, which

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<v Speaker 1>when Removed Revealed, the great king wearing a jade mask

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<v Speaker 1>and Adorned As The mayan maize god in the jay

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry and. Beaded net Skirt The historian claire gibson commented,

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<v Speaker 1>in his writings the beaded Net skirt that pecall is

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<v Speaker 1>wearing connects Him With, the maize god who maybe depicted

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<v Speaker 1>dress in it in scenes in which he is shown

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<v Speaker 1>Dancing Out Of, zibalba Oh chibalba. The mayan underworld this

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<v Speaker 1>type of skirt was Usually worn, by mayan women But

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<v Speaker 1>Adorns the maze god to signify his. Power of fertility

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<v Speaker 1>pacall would have expected to Have Emulated the maze god

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<v Speaker 1>in being resurrected. Following his death.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting his. Powers of, fertility.

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<v Speaker 1>Well right yeah like the skirt was a feminine ware

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<v Speaker 1>like then, all the things but the, god in Question,

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<v Speaker 1>the maze god. Was a male so although females are

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that give birth, in this, culture the male

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<v Speaker 1>or at least the fertility god, was a male which

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<v Speaker 1>is huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of interesting that's very opposite of almost every other.

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<v Speaker 2>Ancient culture agreed but, that being said unless he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>a dualistic god.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes you wonder FROM from, what i found there wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>A dualistic god as far as the. Minds were concerned

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<v Speaker 1>they were very strict about the male, and THE female

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<v Speaker 1>not i want to use the, term gender roles, but

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<v Speaker 1>also yeah. The gender roles like you you didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>female warriors or. Things, like that like that's not how.

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<v Speaker 1>It got down but somehow the fertility god just ended

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<v Speaker 1>up happening to. Be a dude but he was wearing,

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<v Speaker 1>a JADE skirt which i don't think meant that he

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<v Speaker 1>was trans or androgynist. BY any. MEANS i don't i.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't honestly know we don't need men.

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<v Speaker 2>MAKING female, decisions i mean except for if you want,

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<v Speaker 2>to become fertile you, worship, the male, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know and. That's, the thing yeah we want women

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<v Speaker 1>don't want men men explaining their way. Into female, decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>ALL right dope i would like. THE same respect i

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<v Speaker 1>would like females to butt out of men's. Issues and

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<v Speaker 1>things but then all, of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 2>You're being oppressive oh?

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<v Speaker 1>How dare, you right now this is the, carving in

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<v Speaker 1>question this is the lid, of his sarcophagus and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna break everything down on it in a more, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say conspiratorial way moving forward. In the, conversation but

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<v Speaker 1>anyway let's continue talking. About the tone this is Supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to Be pacala The great and chibalba, Or the underworld

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<v Speaker 1>so take that for.

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<v Speaker 2>What it is what. A carving though they were so

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<v Speaker 2>intricate and all their, carvings AND everything like i mean

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<v Speaker 2>not Even, just the mayans But all. THE ancine, cultures

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<v Speaker 2>i mean it was really. Quite the skill the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of time and like patience, it would take like imagine

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<v Speaker 2>probably just a little corner of that would probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Take, TWO weeks oh i, mean, for us yes because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't, do stone working but like to, a stone,

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<v Speaker 1>mason you, KNOW it's oh i could probably crack that out.

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<v Speaker 1>In a week the whole SARCOPHAGA is glid i don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. FOR a fact i don't know like what tools,

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<v Speaker 1>they were using because even today with our, modern stone

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<v Speaker 1>masons they're. Using steel tools right, to our knowledge the

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<v Speaker 1>mines did, not have steel so like they were using some,

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<v Speaker 1>type of metal but it had to be hard enough to.

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<v Speaker 1>Chisel that, away but yeah it's very labor intensive work back.

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<v Speaker 2>IN these, days I meanwhile the amish are. Like two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks i'll knocked out out in the weekend. Right Every time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now i'm, on The weekend but i'm gonna need, about

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<v Speaker 1>you know ten grand.

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<v Speaker 2>To do, it but whatever and a. Couple of, horses

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<v Speaker 2>oh oh.

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<v Speaker 1>You're thrown in some horses. As, a sweetener man we

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<v Speaker 1>can knock that price down to. Maybe nine kah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the tomb contained a great, quantity, of. Earrings wristlets

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<v Speaker 2>bracelet what's the difference between a wristlet. AND a bracelet

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<v Speaker 2>i think they'd be.

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<v Speaker 1>The, same doll no maybe wristlets go more uh, up

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<v Speaker 1>the arm but then you would call.

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<v Speaker 2>IT an armband, I don't know. I, don't, know wristlets

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<v Speaker 2>bracelets and necklaces and a jade bas relief. Of high

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<v Speaker 2>quality stuart Writes that the maya held jade in esteem

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<v Speaker 2>equal to ketzel plumes the feathers of, the ketzel bird

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<v Speaker 2>in part because they saw in they saw in the

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<v Speaker 2>green of both a symbol of. Life the elite the

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<v Speaker 2>elite wore jade jewelry, by the, pound in, necklaces ear ornaments,

413
00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:29.200
<v Speaker 2>bracelets and anklets. And on belts none, of, the treasures

414
00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:33.559
<v Speaker 2>however proved As valuable to mayanists as the, sarcophagus lid

415
00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:36.359
<v Speaker 2>itself Which depicted the maya view of the cosmos.

416
00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.039
<v Speaker 1>So real quick the, mask in question that's the mask

417
00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:45.039
<v Speaker 1>that he was wearing inside. Of, the tomb oh.

418
00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:46.720
<v Speaker 2>IT makes sense i mean they held jade in, such

419
00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:49.119
<v Speaker 2>HIGH regards so i wonder why.

420
00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:52.440
<v Speaker 1>They thought the green was a. Symbol of life plus

421
00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:56.799
<v Speaker 1>jade is it's, easy TO work and i mean like relatively.

422
00:22:56.839 --> 00:22:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Easy to work it's not like diamond where you have

423
00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:01.119
<v Speaker 1>to have some sort of special lives material to. CARVE

424
00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:03.599
<v Speaker 1>it down i. Literally just NOT last night I watched

425
00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the chinese dude make. A jade pillow i. Think it's

426
00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:07.880
<v Speaker 1>stupid it's a pillow made out of, A fucking rock

427
00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:09.319
<v Speaker 1>but like it's a traditional thing.

428
00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:10.119
<v Speaker 2>That They do uncomfort.

429
00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.920
<v Speaker 1>It looks uncomfortable as, hell to me but apparently that's

430
00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the thing that They've Done in southeast asia. For a, while,

431
00:23:16.440 --> 00:23:19.039
<v Speaker 1>but it's uh it's brittle and therefore you. Can WORK

432
00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:20.119
<v Speaker 1>it so i wonder if.

433
00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:23.480
<v Speaker 2>It compares to Like, out in arizona like turquoise is.

434
00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:25.440
<v Speaker 2>A big thing you could.

435
00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Make, the, comparison sure yeah.

436
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:28.559
<v Speaker 2>Like all that. KIND of stuff i wonder if it's

437
00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:31.599
<v Speaker 2>like it's like because it's, blue and green that it

438
00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:35.039
<v Speaker 2>symbolizes like all Of earth Or heaven and earth or

439
00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:38.279
<v Speaker 2>something like that whenever you. Combine the, two.

440
00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:39.680
<v Speaker 1>VERY possibly and i think there's something to be said for,

441
00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that for sure aside from it just having a, really,

442
00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:44.799
<v Speaker 1>cool color, right like uh Same, way the, egyptians like

443
00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.519
<v Speaker 1>uh lapis lazool was how they use for all the blues,

444
00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:51.279
<v Speaker 1>that they did and all The all the egyptian sarcophagal

445
00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:54.759
<v Speaker 1>masks were gold and the blue lines and all that

446
00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:58.119
<v Speaker 1>were made, out of lapis and like it's gorgeous in

447
00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:00.400
<v Speaker 1>comparison with the blue and the. Gold LIKE that and

448
00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.400
<v Speaker 1>i guess because these colors stand, out in, NATURE you,

449
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:05.079
<v Speaker 1>know i mean as you're mining for stuff in a

450
00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:06.960
<v Speaker 1>cave or in the dirt and you pull out this

451
00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:11.960
<v Speaker 1>really bright blue green rock that's gonna stand. Out, IN comparison,

452
00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:12.920
<v Speaker 1>SO i mean.

453
00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:15.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know do you think that the stones, or

454
00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:19.960
<v Speaker 2>you know these kind of rocks or crystals or whatever

455
00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:23.680
<v Speaker 2>were more symbolic of something or actually had some kind

456
00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:25.839
<v Speaker 2>of properties that would help them get to what they were.

457
00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Trying to.

458
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.279
<v Speaker 1>ACCOMPLISH possibly, both I mean like, i said here they

459
00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:34.599
<v Speaker 1>saw jade basically equal to the plumes. Of their god

460
00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>we talked about, quets, a quadle right The flying snake god.

461
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:40.839
<v Speaker 1>That they worshiped there were feathers on The, flying snake

462
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:44.160
<v Speaker 1>God and the mayans hailed the same ESTEEM to oh

463
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.880
<v Speaker 1>i have One of, the god's FEATHERS to oh i

464
00:24:46.920 --> 00:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>have this. Shard of jade they saw it as one and.

465
00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:52.119
<v Speaker 1>The same thing so maybe it wasn't just for the

466
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.200
<v Speaker 1>looks and. Appeal of it perhaps there was something a little.

467
00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:58.559
<v Speaker 1>Extra to it we don't really know if they were

468
00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:02.160
<v Speaker 1>using these things in some sort of, a spiritual manner

469
00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.759
<v Speaker 1>but we do know that they gave spiritual. Significance TO

470
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:06.559
<v Speaker 1>it but i mean that's the same thing to say

471
00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that like the Royal, gems, in england right, the crown

472
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>jewels are these jewels inherently giving the royals a higher

473
00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:17.880
<v Speaker 1>mind to. Lead the people or is it that there

474
00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:19.799
<v Speaker 1>is just the look appeal of it and, all these

475
00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:23.200
<v Speaker 1>things or maybe there's something dualistic happening. IN that, sense

476
00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:24.279
<v Speaker 1>i mean who can, really.

477
00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Say yeah yeah well and then you got pacall sarcophagus. And,

478
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Identity Controversy.

479
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah so i'll cut ahead to this one before we.

480
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Read into it, the thing is We know that pecall

481
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.200
<v Speaker 1>died when. He was eighty the body inside of the

482
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:45.400
<v Speaker 1>tomb was, forty years old so we don't really know

483
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:48.920
<v Speaker 1>what the hell that's why instead of a rocket ship

484
00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:52.880
<v Speaker 1>some people have, said time machine or is there maybe

485
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>some controversy going on of, a fake identity but.

486
00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you found a way to. Slow down Aging.

487
00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:01.920
<v Speaker 1>See what i'm saying is where we're getting into. The wild. Shit.

488
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Let's read so the sarcophagus lid measures three point six,

489
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:10.039
<v Speaker 2>by two meters which would be twelve, by seven feet

490
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:12.240
<v Speaker 2>and shows a man tilting backwards at the base of

491
00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:15.240
<v Speaker 2>a tree with a bird high, at the top either

492
00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:17.920
<v Speaker 2>falling into or springing out of what appears to be.

493
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:21.680
<v Speaker 2>A large urn glyphs and symbols run around the edges,

494
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:25.400
<v Speaker 2>of the lid all representing Important components. Of mayan cosmology

495
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.039
<v Speaker 2>pacaul's sarcophagus is what he is best known for in

496
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.599
<v Speaker 2>the modern day as, ancient Alien theorists Following eric van

497
00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:37.160
<v Speaker 2>danikin's interpretation In his book Chariots, OF the gods i

498
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:38.720
<v Speaker 2>want to read THAT one day i hear a lot

499
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.920
<v Speaker 2>of people. Talk about that claimed in the lid depicts

500
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:44.759
<v Speaker 2>a man riding on, a rocket ship smoke issuing from

501
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>an exhaust, pipe behind him and the glyphs. Representing outer,

502
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:51.200
<v Speaker 2>space in reality the Relief Shows, the world Tree which

503
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:55.440
<v Speaker 2>the maya believed had its roots, in the underworld trunk

504
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:58.720
<v Speaker 2>on the earthly plane and Branches, high In paradise and pecau's.

505
00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Relationship to. It in death the king is depicted either

506
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.559
<v Speaker 2>at the moment of his death following a falling from

507
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.960
<v Speaker 2>the earthly Plane, down to shibalba or at the moment

508
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.640
<v Speaker 2>of his resurrection from the underworld climbing Up To the World.

509
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Tree toward paradise the adornments along the edges represent the

510
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>sky and other glyphs the sun, and the moon and

511
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:27.880
<v Speaker 2>still others Past rulers Of palanqui and pacau's. Place among

512
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:29.880
<v Speaker 2>them the bird at the top of the Tree is

513
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>The bird of heaven also Known As the Celestial Bird or,

514
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:36.440
<v Speaker 2>principal bird deity who represents the realm of the gods,

515
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:40.240
<v Speaker 2>in this piece and The urn beneath pacall is The

516
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:46.599
<v Speaker 2>entrance to hibalba once once one Is acquainted with, maya

517
00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:49.839
<v Speaker 2>cosmological concepts there is nothing mysterious about The lid, Of

518
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 2>pacall's sarcophagus but in, nineteen fifty two scholars know or

519
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:56.759
<v Speaker 2>knew far less than they do in, the modern day

520
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>and so the relief was more open to interpretation at

521
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the Time when von anakin wrote his book in nineteen

522
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.039
<v Speaker 2>sixty eight than. It is today no credible scholar in

523
00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:07.799
<v Speaker 2>the modern day accepts the lid is depicting anything having

524
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.079
<v Speaker 2>to do with a rocket ship, or an astronaut but

525
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:13.960
<v Speaker 2>some writers still persist in raising debate over the interpretation of.

526
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.000
<v Speaker 2>The piece, controversy.

527
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Real, quick real. QUICK real quick i understand there's going

528
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:20.079
<v Speaker 1>to be people that are going to, be THROWING shade

529
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 1>and i have an article pulled up from somebody who

530
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.319
<v Speaker 1>is going to break down the conspiratorial thought process and

531
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>show this can't be. Because, of xyz however even if

532
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>You're uninitiated, into, mayan COSMOLOGY okay and i understand where

533
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:37.799
<v Speaker 1>they're coming. From with this at The Time when the

534
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Chariots of the, gods was written most People didn't know most,

535
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>regular people anyway had no idea how to. Read these

536
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>glyphs they had no idea what they. Were looking at,

537
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 1>that being said there is more than just the s

538
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>like the sarcophagus lid is interesting and it's a very very,

539
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>eyebrow raising artifact. If you will but that is not

540
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the only bit, of. This controversy right the Fact that when,

541
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>pecaul took over his first thought was to start having,

542
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:10.559
<v Speaker 1>massive building projects exemplifying and glorifying the history of his

543
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>people and the future, of his people all these things when,

544
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>he was twelve a twelve year old immediately got to

545
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>work in constructing these massive. Monuments and structures there are

546
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:22.759
<v Speaker 1>some that say that he might have had a little

547
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 1>more intellect and a. Little more insight who gave? That

548
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.119
<v Speaker 1>to him where he? Come by it who knows that

549
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>led him? Down this path then we get to, the

550
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.079
<v Speaker 1>other controversy and let's keep reading in.

551
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:37.319
<v Speaker 2>On that one so controversy also raged over the identity

552
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>of the skeleton. Inside the tomb it was found that

553
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.440
<v Speaker 2>the skeleton's teeth were in very good condition and indicated

554
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 2>a mail of around the age of forty at the.

555
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Time of death since Archaeologists knew that pecaul died at

556
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:50.880
<v Speaker 2>the age of eighty once they had dated the monuments

557
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 2>and buildings constructed, during his reign the findings of the

558
00:29:54.880 --> 00:30:00.319
<v Speaker 2>epigraphers epigraphers Yeah who identified pacall as the skelet and

559
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>the tomb were. Called Into question David Kelly and floyd

560
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 2>loundsbury were the first epigraphers to identify the tomb As

561
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Belonging to lord pacall of palanqu and their work was

562
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Later Continued by Peter Matthews. And linda, schell physical anthropologists for,

563
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.599
<v Speaker 2>the most part contend that the tomb had to belong

564
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.279
<v Speaker 2>to a younger man and the epigraphers had made a

565
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>mistake in identifying it As, that of pacall while cultural

566
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:28.759
<v Speaker 2>cultural anthropologist stood by the identification.

567
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:32.519
<v Speaker 1>And, their work so just so, we're clear here anthropology

568
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:35.119
<v Speaker 1>is kind of an, open. Ended discussion right it's the

569
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>study of different peoples in different cultures from. Around the world,

570
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.759
<v Speaker 1>that being said there is infighting to. This exact artifact

571
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>never mind the fact that it was in a tomb

572
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 1>that No one, disputes, pacall built right and it was his,

573
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>personal worship center and he built it to be his tomb.

574
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Upon his death never mind, all of that never mind

575
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 1>the jade skirt that the guy was wearing or, the

576
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:01.519
<v Speaker 1>jade mask and knowing that it was that saw himself as.

577
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:05.519
<v Speaker 1>The intermediary deity you have two, groups of anthropologists one

578
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>saying This is. Clearly pacall's tomb the other group is

579
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 1>saying this can't. Be his tomb so there's even infighting

580
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:13.279
<v Speaker 1>as far as. Scholars, are concerned.

581
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Right the cultural anthropolology anthropologists sorry stood by the identification,

582
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 2>and their works so they believe that That actually was

583
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>pacall in that, in that tomb even though he seemed

584
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>to be that of a younger man now just. Because. The,

585
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>age dude yeah but that's, the, thing is, like you

586
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.720
<v Speaker 2>know some people, JUST age. DIFFERENTLY i, THINK i mean,

587
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know i don't know how that is represented

588
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:40.920
<v Speaker 2>as far as the skeletal structure and the teeth structure.

589
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:44.240
<v Speaker 2>And EVERYTHING else but i can imagine somebody who is

590
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.480
<v Speaker 2>living back, in those, times you know They're Not eating

591
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>big max like. Like, we do nowadays maybe they aged a.

592
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Little bit differently i'm sure that they were still compared

593
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:53.200
<v Speaker 2>to other people of those times as to what an

594
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:54.680
<v Speaker 2>eighty year old. Actually looked like so.

595
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.119
<v Speaker 1>It is weird, it is weird, and you're right they

596
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>different people genetically age. At, Different rates right i'm with you.

597
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent but it's not like this is the

598
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.799
<v Speaker 1>only body or, i should say a funerary site that

599
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 1>was uncovered from. This time period and, because of that

600
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:14.359
<v Speaker 1>they have a pretty good snapshot as to what the bone,

601
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:17.559
<v Speaker 1>density looked like what the teeth structure looked like to

602
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:20.039
<v Speaker 1>somebody who was in their forties versus somebody who was.

603
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 1>In their eighties you might you might play that game

604
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>to say that this person died, at eighty five but

605
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>their skeletal structure looks like they might have been seventy. Five,

606
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Or seventy okay i'll give you like a ten to

607
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 1>fifteen year gap. Of, like questionability okay bro. Half the

608
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.559
<v Speaker 1>age that is. Quite a, jump, and also dude it

609
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>forty is Pretty much in i'm not gonna say, peak

610
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>physical condition but like most would acknowledge that thirty five

611
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>is like the pinnacle of the male, structure from uh

612
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:53.799
<v Speaker 1>when your body starts, to, Slowly deteriorate.

613
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, DAMN all right i was just over Here flexing

614
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.720
<v Speaker 2>and i'm starting to. Deteriorate, Over, HERE no no, I

615
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 2>mean Meta i feel. I'M with you i, mean physically.

616
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.039
<v Speaker 1>Speaking a man at twenty five is at, the peak

617
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>physicality but he's not going to achieve his reel like

618
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:11.359
<v Speaker 1>what we would call man's strength until he's, around, Thirty

619
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>five right and that's just the. Way this works so

620
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about five years after peak, performance years arguably

621
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and somebody, who is eighty like you're not looking at

622
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the same physical structure.

623
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:26.000
<v Speaker 2>At, that point yes it does make, you question, though

624
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>all right because they're getting these years Because of. The

625
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.119
<v Speaker 2>mayan calendar it makes you wonder if we're reading the

626
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 2>mind calendar correctly at, that point then because how is

627
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 2>it possible that an eighty year old man would have

628
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 2>a forty, year old skeleton and how they're able to

629
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:42.279
<v Speaker 2>prove that he was eighty was because of. The man

630
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:45.240
<v Speaker 2>calendar it makes you wonder if there's different interpretations of

631
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:46.920
<v Speaker 2>how you're supposed to be looking at the mind calendar.

632
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>At that point, that being said he also etched into his,

633
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.559
<v Speaker 1>tomb his works and they do equate. To eighty years

634
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>it talks about what he did in this year and

635
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.559
<v Speaker 1>this year. And this Year so now.

636
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to think outside of a box here

637
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 2>or outside the tomb.

638
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:04.119
<v Speaker 1>If, you, will oh absolutely and like that's there's no

639
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>one really knows because there's so much controversy around the body.

640
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Inside the tomb so It's not like i'm trying to

641
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 1>dispel or prove or anything. On this one i'm just

642
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:15.800
<v Speaker 1>saying it's that doesn't. Exactly. Line up now some have

643
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 1>said that maybe he buried one of his sons in

644
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>his tomb and he was buried in a secret location or.

645
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>SOMETHING like that i personally don't believe that you're not

646
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna build all this for you and then just like.

647
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Fake your death that's. Kind of crazy but there are,

648
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.840
<v Speaker 1>others that say like we're about to get into here

649
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the whole rocket slash, time machine conversation maybe he did

650
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>die in, eighty earth years but his body was that

651
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>of a. Forty year old there's wild there's a lot

652
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:44.119
<v Speaker 1>of hypotheticals, on, This.

653
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 2>One right so just continuing on the controversy was finally

654
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>resolved in nineteen sixty. Six a d when it was

655
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>agreed that as a nobleman, All his life pecaul would

656
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 2>have enjoyed better food, than his subjects and so his

657
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.000
<v Speaker 2>teeth would have been in better. Condition, than others okay

658
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:00.960
<v Speaker 2>so that starts, to check?

659
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Out does it because you could look at The, royals

660
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 1>of europe who objectively were eating better than most of

661
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:12.639
<v Speaker 1>their surfs, and peasant class and eighty year old bones

662
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:13.519
<v Speaker 1>still look like eighty.

663
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Year old bones We're talking about european teeth bro like

664
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.039
<v Speaker 2>traditionally the worst fucking teeth.

665
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.320
<v Speaker 1>In, the world, yeah that's fair, but even still just

666
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.760
<v Speaker 1>to say that he had cleaner, teeth than most that's

667
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>not all you look. At for that that's why it's

668
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.920
<v Speaker 1>like it was finally resolved in ninety six because he was.

669
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Eating better food, that's your answer is that the better

670
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>food made him look. Half his Age that's. What i'm

671
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:39.760
<v Speaker 1>saying i'll give you a fifteen to ten year, gap

672
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:42.199
<v Speaker 1>on that. Not fucking forty.

673
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:44.880
<v Speaker 2>He might have been eating, that keto, manna.

674
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:46.559
<v Speaker 1>Sir oh is that?

675
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 5>What it?

676
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Was who knows so?

677
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Did? You do further as no One knows what paicall favored,

678
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:57.519
<v Speaker 2>in his diet he could have eaten softer foods that

679
00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>took little toll. On his teeth the fact that he

680
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 2>lived until the age of eighty and still had a

681
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.920
<v Speaker 2>full set of teeth argues for a healthy lifestyle and

682
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.960
<v Speaker 2>attention to. Personal hygiene today is it is generally acknowledged

683
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.679
<v Speaker 2>that the Tomb belongs to pacall and the Remains found

684
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 2>by ruiz in nineteen fifty two are those Of the

685
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:17.519
<v Speaker 2>great King, Of PALANQU okay so i wonder if we're,

686
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:19.800
<v Speaker 2>saying That WRONG that PALANK i don't i feel like

687
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:20.599
<v Speaker 2>that's the wrong way.

688
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.880
<v Speaker 1>TO say it i think they were saying it. THE

689
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>right way i think that's that's. How it looks this

690
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>is a Stone Bust of, lord, Pacall himself right and

691
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>so let's we can read a little bit into the

692
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.639
<v Speaker 1>decline of palan k because if this guy was such

693
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.639
<v Speaker 1>an amazing king lived to be eighty, in this timeframe,

694
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>which was wild like, just objectively speaking living to eighty

695
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and in this area of the world was kind. Of

696
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>an outlier but then the body was that of a.

697
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Forty year old we're going to get more into that.

698
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 1>In a bit but then what happened to this great city?

699
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.199
<v Speaker 1>That he built that was like the rival of the

700
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>other greatest city that we knew about.

701
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.280
<v Speaker 2>At the time so the city continued to prosper under

702
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:04.079
<v Speaker 2>The role of pecau's sons, and their heirs but was

703
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>invaded and sacked by the forces from The city of tonina.

704
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.880
<v Speaker 2>In seven eleven in the. Year seven eleven archaeological evidence

705
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:15.119
<v Speaker 2>from this period shows no, new building construction and inscriptions

706
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.119
<v Speaker 2>indicate that the king was captured. And perhaps executed there

707
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>seems to have been no monarch in the city for some,

708
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.920
<v Speaker 2>time after this but it is recorded That hostiles Between

709
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:28.199
<v Speaker 2>tunina and palanka continued through seven. Hundred and fifty the

710
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 2>year seven, hundred and fifty the cause of. War is

711
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 2>unknown As With other great, mayan urban centers palan k

712
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.519
<v Speaker 2>was abandoned at some point around the, year eight hundred

713
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.239
<v Speaker 2>and the jungle rose up to. Claim the city it

714
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 2>was already a Ruin when the spanish conquest began in,

715
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:46.639
<v Speaker 2>the sixteenth century and continued to sink into the overgrowth

716
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.199
<v Speaker 2>in spite of expeditions to the site in THE eighteenth

717
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:53.400
<v Speaker 2>century ce until The Work Of john Lloyd Stevens and

718
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 2>frederick catherwood brought the city to the world's attention in

719
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:02.320
<v Speaker 2>preliminary preliminary excavation were begun in the. Late, nineteenth century

720
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 2>today The city Of pacall the great is the most

721
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:10.880
<v Speaker 2>extensively studied Of all, the Maya, cities even chichanitza because

722
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.199
<v Speaker 2>of the grandeur of the architecture and the precision of

723
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 2>the inscriptions which tell the story of its most venerated

724
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:21.159
<v Speaker 2>king and the splendid city he Raised. To greatness chichanitza

725
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.280
<v Speaker 2>that's where that that's where that snake.

726
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Pyramid is exactly so this site has more studies done

727
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:32.760
<v Speaker 1>on it than that site because this dude inscribed the

728
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>entire story, within this tomb and he could give the

729
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>dates as per the mind calendar. All the stuff so

730
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:42.159
<v Speaker 1>now this this kind of talked a little bit, about

731
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.039
<v Speaker 1>the controversy but. NOT a lot i do want to

732
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>go into. Another article here this is from thought thought

733
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:53.079
<v Speaker 1>co dot, YEAH dot com i THOUGHT was dot uk,

734
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:57.159
<v Speaker 1>for A second the Wonders of The. Sarcophagus, of pacall now,

735
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>as we mentioned this is the temple slash, tomb in

736
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:04.360
<v Speaker 1>question and so as we get, into it here let's

737
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>go into the discovery of, the tomb itself and we're

738
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.280
<v Speaker 1>talking more. About the, lid all.

739
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Right go back up to that, pyramid at, First all

740
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:14.840
<v Speaker 2>right so at, the top there that's the sarcophagus, at

741
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:16.239
<v Speaker 2>the top and so the lid would be at the

742
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 2>very top or?

743
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.639
<v Speaker 1>Is, That, no no the sarcophagus was inside. This little,

744
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>room so like all of this. Is just rock this

745
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 1>isn't like inner working chambers or. Anything like this this

746
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:28.119
<v Speaker 1>is just level after level of. Just solid rock the chamber,

747
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>at the top, this little room when you go, inside

748
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:32.480
<v Speaker 1>of it that's their tongue, with the flashlights and they

749
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.440
<v Speaker 1>saw the stalagmites and stalagtites and. All these things and

750
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:38.760
<v Speaker 1>basically a seven x twelve foot section of the floor

751
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 1>was this massively engraved and scraw. Carved out lid and

752
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 1>when they pulled it back they found The. Body.

753
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Of, Pacall interesting okay so in, six Eighty, three ad,

754
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 2>mike all right you need to zoom in on that because.

755
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:56.159
<v Speaker 2>That is tiny, got your, dog all. Right thank you

756
00:39:57.320 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>in SIX. EIGHTY. Three, a d pacall the Great, king

757
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>of palanque who had ruled for, almost seventy years died

758
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 2>because time had been one of the great prosperity, for

759
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.679
<v Speaker 2>his people who honored him by entombing his body inside

760
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 2>the temple of the inscriptions A pyramid that, pacall made

761
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Himself or the pacall himself had ordered built specifically to serve.

762
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.280
<v Speaker 2>As his tomb pacall was buried, in jade finery including a.

763
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Beautiful death Mask placed over pecall's tomb was a massive

764
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.960
<v Speaker 2>sarcophagus stone laboriously carved with An image of pacall himself

765
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:31.920
<v Speaker 2>being reborn. As a god pacall sarcophagus and its stone

766
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.559
<v Speaker 2>top are among the great all time. Fines of archaeology so, in.

767
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 1>This case right the first article we read talked about

768
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>how This image depicted pacall going through. The death process

769
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.599
<v Speaker 1>this one is Saying this was pacall being reborn. As

770
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>a god You see. What I'm, saying how yeah they're

771
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:54.599
<v Speaker 1>all kind of, saying similar things but nobody can like

772
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 1>directly connect that this means this and, this means this

773
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>especially because we have no other so cofagus that we

774
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.840
<v Speaker 1>have Found in meso america that shows anything.

775
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Close, to this well that's why it's so important to

776
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:08.920
<v Speaker 2>get everybody's, opinion on it and not just the archaeologists

777
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:11.480
<v Speaker 2>or the cultural archaeologists or. Anything LIKE that but i

778
00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:13.639
<v Speaker 2>feel like you also got to get the theologians in on,

779
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 2>it as well in order to better understand what the

780
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:18.960
<v Speaker 2>process was and what he was, aiming to do because

781
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:22.920
<v Speaker 2>you read Like certain and i'm sure that this isn't all,

782
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:26.639
<v Speaker 2>across the board But from what i've study as far As,

783
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:29.519
<v Speaker 2>like the egyptians what they believed is that they had

784
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:31.639
<v Speaker 2>to go through a death process to be able to

785
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:35.039
<v Speaker 2>like shed. Their worldly body they believe that that was

786
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:37.800
<v Speaker 2>their way Of. Ascending to god and so people Would say,

787
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.760
<v Speaker 2>that egyptians, were you know they were just so, obsessed

788
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.800
<v Speaker 2>with death but the idea was is that they were

789
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>they were obsessed with Rejoining back with god or back

790
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 2>with the heavenly. Forces, Or WHATEVER.

791
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.599
<v Speaker 1>Right AND i mean i, understand this too but keep

792
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:54.840
<v Speaker 1>in mind that he was Not the only mayan king

793
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:57.199
<v Speaker 1>or lord or whatever you want to call it that

794
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>saw himself as the innermary Intermediary force between. God and

795
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:06.760
<v Speaker 1>man every single king thought that they. Were that guy

796
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:09.639
<v Speaker 1>yet he's the only one that has a sarcophagus that

797
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:12.639
<v Speaker 1>shows him in this. Type of way You see. What

798
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.360
<v Speaker 1>i'm saying, it's, not like oh he saw himself as

799
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>being reborn into the. God tyr status every king that

800
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:21.920
<v Speaker 1>died saw themselves. In that way why does this dude

801
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>have a specifically carved sarcophagus lid that depicts something that no,

802
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.320
<v Speaker 1>one else has showing images that no. One else has, and,

803
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:33.119
<v Speaker 1>they're saying oh. That's an urn, some, are saying oh

804
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:36.760
<v Speaker 1>you mean the thrusters. Of his rocket oh well. That's

805
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the tree oh you mean him breaking. Through the atmosphere

806
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:41.360
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna. Get to It.

807
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Give unto Caesar, what, Is, caesar's sir well, that's the

808
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Idea because didn't caesar believe that he would he was

809
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:50.599
<v Speaker 2>like a god or some kind of lord or. Something,

810
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:51.119
<v Speaker 2>like That.

811
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the roman money as a, matter of fact on

812
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the front side it would have his face and They would.

813
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Say caesar whoever and on the back It would Say.

814
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>God on earth and, to that point A lot of

815
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>caesar's actually erected statues of themselves to put, in certain

816
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>temples and the military would worship Them as a. God

817
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:11.280
<v Speaker 1>ON earth, and i mean like, metaphorically worship him, Like

818
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you know i've got The picture Of Saint mag dog matters.

819
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 2>And all that, literally for, sure.

820
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Like literally this dude is a walking deity that they were.

821
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Following into, battle but.

822
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:24.239
<v Speaker 2>YEAH right right i believe that that's probably where they

823
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:28.840
<v Speaker 2>started calling each other lord. And, SHIT right well i

824
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know how far, back THAT goes but i imagine

825
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 2>they probably started with maybe some some kind of.

826
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Idea like that so lords as far as like saying,

827
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.119
<v Speaker 1>like my lord whenever you're, like saying like instead, of

828
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 1>yes sir you're saying yes my lord or, SOMETHING like that.

829
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:45.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know as Far as, the english, goes you

830
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>know this goes Back To, THE middle ages, i don't

831
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:50.079
<v Speaker 1>know because you have people that would give each other different.

832
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Monikers and titles Even in ancient rome you had like

833
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 1>a domine right, or a dominus which Would be your

834
00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:59.599
<v Speaker 1>it Was like the roman version of master or leader

835
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:01.920
<v Speaker 1>or lord, in some way. Shape or form so there's

836
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:04.400
<v Speaker 1>always been that to give like, the proper respect, like

837
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>you know put some respect. On my name that's been

838
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 1>a thing since the ancient. Times for sure oh.

839
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.480
<v Speaker 2>How about this the word lord Originates From the old

840
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:16.760
<v Speaker 2>english word which was halaf, ford hlaw ford which means

841
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 2>loaf word.

842
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:18.280
<v Speaker 4>Or.

843
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Bread keeper huh this Term reflects the germanic tribal custom

844
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:28.440
<v Speaker 2>of a chieftain providing food. For their followers eHow the,

845
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:29.159
<v Speaker 2>more YOU know no.

846
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I Do.

847
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 2>So, the mayan City Or the Maya, city of palanke

848
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 2>had risen to greatness in THE, seventh century ad only to,

849
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 2>there we go use an ad how about that, there

850
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:44.440
<v Speaker 2>we go only to mysteriously. Go into decline by nine

851
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:47.119
<v Speaker 2>hundred a, d or so the once mighty city, was

852
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:50.159
<v Speaker 2>largely abandoned and the local vegetation began to. Reclaim the

853
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:54.719
<v Speaker 2>ruins in, Nineteen forty Nine mexican Archaeologists Alberto relie ruiz

854
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:56.800
<v Speaker 2>i'm not even gonna try and pronounce that last name

855
00:44:56.960 --> 00:45:00.519
<v Speaker 2>began an investigation At the, ruined maya City specifically the Temple,

856
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:03.320
<v Speaker 2>of the inscriptions one of the more imposing structures. In

857
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the city he found a stairway leading deep into the temple, and,

858
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:09.679
<v Speaker 2>followed it carefully breaking down walls and removing rocks and

859
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:12.360
<v Speaker 2>debris as. He did so by, nineteen fifty two he

860
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:14.960
<v Speaker 2>reached the end of the passageway and found, a magnificent

861
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.840
<v Speaker 2>tomb which he had been sealed off for more than.

862
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:21.000
<v Speaker 2>A thousand years there are many treasures and important works

863
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Of art, in pacall's tomb but perhaps the most striking

864
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:25.920
<v Speaker 2>was the massive carved Stone that covered pacau's.

865
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Body absolutely so now the great Sarcophagus Lid of pcall.

866
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:33.199
<v Speaker 1>Sarkavaca is lid and again we talked about some, of

867
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:35.599
<v Speaker 1>this already but again hearing it from, a different perspective

868
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>there may be a. Little more insight is made of.

869
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:42.199
<v Speaker 1>A single stone it is a, rectangular in shape measuring

870
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>roughly nine to eleven and a. Half inches thick so

871
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:49.679
<v Speaker 1>it's not like a little one inch. Thick rock slab

872
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.920
<v Speaker 1>this is damn near a, foot. Thick rock right, it's

873
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:56.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty gurthy the. Little gurthy dog and like, we said

874
00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 1>earlier it measures from about seven feet to a long

875
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.920
<v Speaker 1>sorry seven feet wide by about. Twelve feet long the

876
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:06.679
<v Speaker 1>massive stone. Weighs seven tons there are carvings on. The

877
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 1>top sides the massive stone would never have fit down

878
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:11.360
<v Speaker 1>the stairways from the top of the temple. Of The

879
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:14.440
<v Speaker 1>inscriptions the call's tomb, was sealed first and then the

880
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:21.079
<v Speaker 1>temple was. Built around it When we release lulier sure,

881
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 1>discover the tomb he and his men painstakingly lifted it,

882
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:27.440
<v Speaker 1>with four jacks raising it a little bit, at a

883
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:29.679
<v Speaker 1>time while putting small pieces of wood in the gaps

884
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.599
<v Speaker 1>to hold. It in place the tomb remained open until the,

885
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>late twenty ten when the massive lid, was painstakingly lowered

886
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Once again, covering pecall's remains which had been returned to

887
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:44.639
<v Speaker 1>his tomb in two. Thousand, and nine damn they went

888
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:47.119
<v Speaker 1>through all that effort to get, the body out only

889
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:49.599
<v Speaker 1>to return it in two thousand and nine and then

890
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>shut the lid back on the sarcophagus.

891
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.119
<v Speaker 2>IN twenty ten i wonder if that's like per cultural

892
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:57.440
<v Speaker 2>customs that they felt like they had to return it, because,

893
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.199
<v Speaker 2>THE people, well i mean, it was uncovered it was.

894
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:02.440
<v Speaker 2>In the jungle nobody was even going there for, a

895
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:03.960
<v Speaker 2>thousand years so it couldn't.

896
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Have, Been revered no but at, the same time the

897
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>locals there's so many examples right of disturbing the remains of,

898
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a burial ground and we talked about that right with

899
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.559
<v Speaker 1>the mummies, in that area or the quote unquote alien

900
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:20.320
<v Speaker 1>bodies and. All these things the locals have a serious issue,

901
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:25.400
<v Speaker 1>with an outsider even if, it's an, educated scholarly, archaeologist academic.

902
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Type doesn't matter if you're gonna come and, excavate this.

903
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Site that's fine you're trying to discover more history, about our.

904
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Land that's fine you're trying to take the artifacts and

905
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the bodily remains of our ancestors away. From our land

906
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:41.280
<v Speaker 1>now we. Have a, problem so right.

907
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 2>They at least have to, put it back as that's

908
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.280
<v Speaker 2>probably part of, THE negotiating tactics i.

909
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Would think, so and again this pyramid was discovered in,

910
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:52.760
<v Speaker 1>what was it we said. Nineteen forty nine no one

911
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:56.639
<v Speaker 1>was really caring about the local customs and the inhabitants

912
00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen forties and. Fifties, and sixties however twenty

913
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 1>nine to, Twenty, ten, timeframe yeah yeah people started caring

914
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:06.599
<v Speaker 1>about the local population a. Lot.

915
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.679
<v Speaker 2>More interesting okay so.

916
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:13.920
<v Speaker 1>The carved Edges of the sarcophaca's lid narrate events from

917
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>The life of pacau and those of. His royal forbearers

918
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.840
<v Speaker 1>the southern side records the date of his birth and

919
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the date. Of his death that's also how we know

920
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that there was an eighty year. Time on this the

921
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 1>other sides mentioned several Other of Lord's pacall's, or i'm

922
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:31.119
<v Speaker 1>sorry several Other lords of palanquay and the dates. Of

923
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:34.440
<v Speaker 1>their deaths the Northern side shows pacall's parents along with

924
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 1>the dates. Of, their deaths now the sides. Of the

925
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.679
<v Speaker 1>sarcophagus on the side and ends of, the sarcophagus itself

926
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:44.800
<v Speaker 1>there are eight Fascinating carvings of pacall's ancestors being. Reborn

927
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:48.440
<v Speaker 1>as trees this shows that the spirits of the departed

928
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 1>ancestors continue to. Nourish their descendants The depictions of pacall's

929
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:57.800
<v Speaker 1>ancestors and Former rulers of palanque include Two images of

930
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:01.960
<v Speaker 1>pecall's father being reborn as, a nance tree Two images

931
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.079
<v Speaker 1>of pacall's mother being reborn as. A cocaw, tree you

932
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.920
<v Speaker 1>know the people shout out, to sock cock. You, suck,

933
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 1>cock yeah uh being reborn as. A cocaw tree and

934
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:12.400
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about that in, the past too how the

935
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:17.079
<v Speaker 1>cocow plant was, Basically worth gold like five cocw beans

936
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:20.199
<v Speaker 1>would be exchanged in place of like. A wedding ring

937
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 1>that's how valuable.

938
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:22.920
<v Speaker 2>THESE things were i think a little goes a long

939
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:23.679
<v Speaker 2>way with, that stuff.

940
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Too doesn't, it Oh yeah there'sh it's basically like a second,

941
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Tier of cocaine, like real shit the amount of caffeine

942
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 1>and the amount of endorphins it gives Off pure cocal

943
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.320
<v Speaker 1>like there's people. That stort it i'll try it that

944
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 1>you could buy the packs of. It right now as a,

945
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.079
<v Speaker 1>MATTER of fact i forget what the. Name brand, is

946
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.079
<v Speaker 1>but like there are people that are doing like key

947
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>bumps of pure cocal and they're claiming that it's it's

948
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.360
<v Speaker 1>not as like, good as coke but apparently it'll get. Your, juices,

949
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:53.199
<v Speaker 1>FLOWING dude really I, Swear, to god, wow all right

950
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:53.760
<v Speaker 1>we gotta.

951
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:54.920
<v Speaker 2>TRY that, Then i.

952
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Mean i'm, DOWN you know i have an. Addiction to

953
00:49:57.039 --> 00:49:59.280
<v Speaker 1>chocolate we're talking about getting it at the purest source

954
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:01.679
<v Speaker 1>and taking a straight the dome via the FUCKING hoover

955
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:04.519
<v Speaker 1>that i have. As a nose i'm down straight to the.

956
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Blood, BRAIN barrier bro, i mean.

957
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Chocolate chocolate to the. BLOOD brain barrier i say this

958
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:10.840
<v Speaker 1>is nothing.

959
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:13.599
<v Speaker 2>BUT good THINGS i mean i would actually venture to

960
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:15.079
<v Speaker 2>say you might as. WELL boof it.

961
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think i won't. Be, Able to yeah I'm

962
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:20.719
<v Speaker 1>hoping that i'll, be able to like at least taste

963
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:22.800
<v Speaker 1>some of that pure cacal because, of the drip You know.

964
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:24.599
<v Speaker 1>What i'm, saying, but like yeah if, You boof it

965
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:30.039
<v Speaker 1>i'm assuming IT would, be i mean we talk about,

966
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:33.039
<v Speaker 1>green TEA enemas and i love, Drinking green tea but

967
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:36.719
<v Speaker 1>apparently green tea animas give you. So many benefits maybe you're.

968
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Onto something here we need To Be. Boofing pure cocow.

969
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Shout out To Lindsay from rogue ways for bringing that

970
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:44.239
<v Speaker 2>bit of. Information to us she says that's like part of.

971
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Her daily thing she. Does. THAT daily, Bro.

972
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean i'm not. Gonna judge it. She looks, amazing

973
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.159
<v Speaker 1>oh dude whatever she's doing is keeping her health and. Her,

974
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:57.000
<v Speaker 1>vitality strong LOOK who am i to say that what she's? Doing?

975
00:50:57.079 --> 00:50:59.440
<v Speaker 2>IS weird yeah i mean, she says that like her

976
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:03.280
<v Speaker 2>health conditions, have gotten better her skin. Complexion is better she,

977
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:05.519
<v Speaker 2>looks younger NOW and she's i think she's, in her

978
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:07.760
<v Speaker 2>forties but she looks like, younger than us.

979
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.119
<v Speaker 1>WHICH is crazy i thought she was in. Her, late

980
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 1>twenties yeah like all all, joking, and all, like you

981
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:17.719
<v Speaker 1>know not trying to boost anybody's ego, by ANY means

982
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:22.559
<v Speaker 1>but i legitimately thought she was late twenties or early thirties. At.

983
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:28.000
<v Speaker 2>The, most, Yeah yeah yeah well that's that's just another

984
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:31.880
<v Speaker 2>example of what, was your uh your boy who, died, You,

985
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:35.440
<v Speaker 2>KNOW pacall yeah i mean maybe he was boofing SOME

986
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.840
<v Speaker 2>green tea, i don't know. Or some cacaw but.

987
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:41.719
<v Speaker 1>But teeth and bone do not age in the same

988
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:44.880
<v Speaker 1>way like somebody's complexion, looking, more vibrant right, and muscle

989
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:48.920
<v Speaker 1>mass skeletal remains age at. A certain rate but maybe.

990
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:53.280
<v Speaker 1>You're onto, Something maybe anyway so we had two images

991
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:55.679
<v Speaker 1>of his dad being reborn as, an ants tree two

992
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:58.480
<v Speaker 1>images of his mother being reborn as. A Cocw tree

993
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 1>but cow's great grandmother, is shown twice reborn as a

994
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:05.639
<v Speaker 1>zapput tree and. An avocado tree. Oh a vodka? Do's

995
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 1>get There they're nod in this One we got bekaw's

996
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:14.519
<v Speaker 1>grandfather being born as. A. Guava tree Uh This, is

997
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:18.199
<v Speaker 1>khan bahlam the first Ruler of paland k from five

998
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:21.199
<v Speaker 1>seventy two to, five eighty three reborn as. A Zapput

999
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:25.840
<v Speaker 1>tree khanjoi chatam the first he was the ruler of

1000
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:28.800
<v Speaker 1>from five twenty nine to, five sixty five reborn as

1001
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:33.840
<v Speaker 1>an avocado tree and a a Vodka doo bro, READ

1002
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:37.599
<v Speaker 1>that again i know. IT says avocado, i was, like

1003
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.239
<v Speaker 1>holy shit there's no way you fucked.

1004
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:40.559
<v Speaker 2>That, ONE up no i.

1005
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:41.960
<v Speaker 1>SAID it right. A second ago, i was like the

1006
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:43.800
<v Speaker 1>born is, an AVOCADO tree and, i, was like oh

1007
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:45.119
<v Speaker 1>evokadus get, their nod?

1008
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:50.679
<v Speaker 6>Here, what's, up, yeah, Yeah yeah anyway uh then we

1009
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:54.000
<v Speaker 6>got A call mo nab the first he was Ruler

1010
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.440
<v Speaker 6>of paland k from five oh one to, five twenty

1011
00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:57.760
<v Speaker 6>four being reborn as.

1012
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:01.320
<v Speaker 1>A guava tree so very specif plants that they are.

1013
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.039
<v Speaker 1>Being reborn into and we're gonna Talk about the mayan

1014
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.840
<v Speaker 1>tree of life and how trees were very important and

1015
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.559
<v Speaker 1>relevant to them in all. Of the ways but we got,

1016
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the nance tree, the, cacao tree zappote avocado. And guava

1017
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:18.760
<v Speaker 1>trees these are like the things that we would see. On,

1018
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:22.920
<v Speaker 1>his sarcophagus now let's talk about that top lid, on

1019
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that sarcophagus the artifact in question that has made so

1020
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.960
<v Speaker 1>many people question if this was in. Fact a rebirth

1021
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:33.119
<v Speaker 1>was this? A rocket ship was this? A time machine we'll.

1022
00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Talk about it the magnificent artistic carving on the top

1023
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:39.119
<v Speaker 1>of the sarcophagus lid is one of The masterpieces. Of

1024
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:43.280
<v Speaker 1>mayan Art it depicts. Pacall Being reborn allegedly pacall is

1025
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:46.880
<v Speaker 1>on his back, wearing his jewels. Headdress and skirt pacall

1026
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.599
<v Speaker 1>is shown in the center, of the cosmos being reborn.

1027
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Into eternal life he's shown in the center. Of the

1028
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>cosmos put a pin in that, one. For later everybody

1029
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>he has become one with The, god nan coil probably

1030
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:08.079
<v Speaker 1>mispronouncing that who is, associated with maize. Fertility and abundance

1031
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:12.079
<v Speaker 1>he is emerging from a maze seed hailed by a so. Called,

1032
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:15.199
<v Speaker 1>earth monster again put a big old pin in that,

1033
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:19.199
<v Speaker 1>one for later whose enormous teeth. Are, clearly shown again

1034
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:20.840
<v Speaker 1>put a pin in that. One for later pacaul is

1035
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:24.159
<v Speaker 1>emerging along with the cosmic tree. Visible behind him the

1036
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:26.840
<v Speaker 1>tree will carry him to the sky where the god

1037
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:32.039
<v Speaker 1>it's some, monag it's. Them naj sure the sky dragon

1038
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:35.320
<v Speaker 1>is awaiting him in the form of a bird and

1039
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:40.400
<v Speaker 1>two serpents heads, On either side so we're all depending

1040
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:43.440
<v Speaker 1>on who's. You're asking here he is shown. In the

1041
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:48.000
<v Speaker 1>cosmos there's teeth behind him as he's leaving. The earth

1042
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 1>monster this tree that he is riding within is carrying

1043
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>him to the sky Where the sky dragon is awaiting

1044
00:54:56.039 --> 00:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>him in the form of a bird with the head.

1045
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Of two, serpents you know it's. Very very fascinating you.

1046
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Know what's interesting you bring up the MAZE there and

1047
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.840
<v Speaker 2>i wanted to point out a lot of people believe that,

1048
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:12.440
<v Speaker 2>what Was it like osiris or One of. Those egyptian

1049
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.840
<v Speaker 2>gods if, you ever see like there's a god that's,

1050
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 2>like holding something and everybody always perceived it to be, a,

1051
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 2>pine cone right like. The pine cone turns out. It

1052
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:23.199
<v Speaker 2>was maze, THIS whole.

1053
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Time i Didn't know that egypt HAD maze, because i

1054
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:28.440
<v Speaker 1>mean we would. Call it corn maze is a. TYPE

1055
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of corn i didn't think they had Corn. GROWING in

1056
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:35.280
<v Speaker 1>egypt i thought that was another type of grain that. They,

1057
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:35.800
<v Speaker 1>would HAVE.

1058
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, THAT'S i mean, i don't KNOW that's. WHAT i

1059
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.559
<v Speaker 2>heard i could be one. Hundred percent wrong that's how somebody, else,

1060
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:42.840
<v Speaker 2>interpreted it though and THAT'S that's. What I heard and, i,

1061
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:44.599
<v Speaker 2>was like oh that makes a little, bit of, Sense

1062
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:47.480
<v Speaker 2>you know and that goes back to the whole like

1063
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.599
<v Speaker 2>pine cone in Front of the vatican and. That whole

1064
00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:52.280
<v Speaker 2>thing and, they, were like well that's clearly a pine

1065
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:54.679
<v Speaker 2>cone and what this, god is, holding you know because

1066
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:56.960
<v Speaker 2>he'll be holding like an anc and then like a

1067
00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:00.960
<v Speaker 2>maze or a pine cone or something you see, or, a, bag,

1068
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah yeah and it's. Like POINTING there so. I

1069
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:07.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know it, could be corn it could be. A

1070
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.559
<v Speaker 2>pine cone but it's pretty interesting to look at just

1071
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:12.119
<v Speaker 2>the symbolism what they meant by that.

1072
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely all right so now let's talk about The importance, of.

1073
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Pakal's Sarcophagus right pa kyle's sarcophagus lid is a Priceless

1074
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:23.159
<v Speaker 2>piece of maya art and one of the most important

1075
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:25.599
<v Speaker 2>archaeological finds. Of all time the glyphs of the lid

1076
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:30.320
<v Speaker 2>have helped mayanists, scholars pinpoint dates events and familial relationships

1077
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:33.000
<v Speaker 2>over a. Thousand years old the Central image of pacall

1078
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:35.119
<v Speaker 2>being reborn as a god is one of the Classic

1079
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.840
<v Speaker 2>icons of maya art and has been crucial to understanding

1080
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:41.039
<v Speaker 2>How the ancient maya viewed. Death and rebirth it should

1081
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:45.239
<v Speaker 2>be noted that Other interpretations of. Pacall's headstone exist the,

1082
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:48.480
<v Speaker 2>most notable one perhaps is the notion that when viewed,

1083
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:51.320
<v Speaker 2>from The side with pacall roughly upright and facing, to

1084
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:54.039
<v Speaker 2>the left it can appear as if he is operating

1085
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:58.079
<v Speaker 2>the machinery. Of some sort this has Led to the,

1086
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.719
<v Speaker 2>mayan astronaut theory which states that the figure Is, not

1087
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:06.000
<v Speaker 2>necessarily pacall But rather a mayan astronaut piloting a space.

1088
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Shift shape spaceship rather as entertaining as this, theory may

1089
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:13.760
<v Speaker 2>be it has it has been thoroughly debunked by those historians, who,

1090
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:19.840
<v Speaker 2>have dined dained dained to justify it with any consideration in.

1091
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 2>The first place so they at least Acknowledge that the mayan. Astronaut,

1092
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:28.400
<v Speaker 2>theory exists however perhaps it's.

1093
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Not a spaceship perhaps it is. A time machine and

1094
00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:34.320
<v Speaker 1>they're very correct about the way that it looks like

1095
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.679
<v Speaker 1>he's operating some kind of a. Piece of machinery There

1096
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:40.719
<v Speaker 1>is other mayan iconography that we can look, At, to

1097
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:43.760
<v Speaker 1>see oh this is the same Way with like. Egyptian,

1098
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.440
<v Speaker 1>higher glyphs right there is a way that they always.

1099
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Had things structured chests were, towards the front heads were,

1100
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>towards the size hips were. Towards the front feet were at.

1101
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:55.199
<v Speaker 1>A certain angle everything had to be done in a

1102
00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:57.960
<v Speaker 1>specific way because they believe that this was the most pleasing.

1103
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 1>To the gods they thought this was the core way

1104
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to show the human form in. Their imaging proper it was, more,

1105
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:08.000
<v Speaker 1>proper Exactly so the mayans have certain things very, similar

1106
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:09.199
<v Speaker 1>to this and you'll see those with a lot of

1107
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:13.320
<v Speaker 1>hieroglyphic cultures. Around the world there's a certain form that,

1108
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.239
<v Speaker 1>they all take and this is seen as. Like the

1109
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:19.440
<v Speaker 1>standard think of it, in our interpretations as You have

1110
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:24.519
<v Speaker 1>regular english writing and then You have. Cursive, english writing

1111
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:27.679
<v Speaker 1>right one of these is seen as more proper and

1112
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the other one is seen as more of. A legal

1113
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:32.880
<v Speaker 1>precedent so they had a certain way in which they

1114
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:35.400
<v Speaker 1>would draw these things and carve these things to be

1115
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:38.639
<v Speaker 1>a uniformity as far as the. Language is concerned, that

1116
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:42.920
<v Speaker 1>being Said no. Other mayan ICONOGRAPHY and when, I say

1117
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:46.199
<v Speaker 1>no i do in fact mean not a single other

1118
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:50.679
<v Speaker 1>artifact that we have found shows the person in the

1119
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.320
<v Speaker 1>center of it in such a position to where you

1120
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:56.679
<v Speaker 1>could argue he's operating a. Piece of machinery the hand,

1121
00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:59.719
<v Speaker 1>placement is strange the foot, placement is strange the tube

1122
00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 1>going to his. Nose is strange nowhere Else in the

1123
00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:06.480
<v Speaker 1>mayan thought process and scholarship is this.

1124
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Scene anywhere else, it, is interesting though because you see

1125
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:14.679
<v Speaker 2>what appears to be some kind of Spacecraft on The,

1126
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:18.559
<v Speaker 2>pyramids of giza right like in the in the. Encryptions

1127
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:22.119
<v Speaker 2>over there so, it's it's weird how it it's that

1128
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:24.679
<v Speaker 2>this isn't the only place that, it showed, UP you,

1129
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:25.800
<v Speaker 2>know i mean could it Be?

1130
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Place in maya though Only?

1131
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Place in maya but is it possible because you have

1132
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:33.480
<v Speaker 2>people for, thousands of years probably since the, beginning of

1133
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:37.440
<v Speaker 2>humanity talking, about certain prophecies which are just things that

1134
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:39.480
<v Speaker 2>are going to be happening. In the future could they

1135
00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:42.880
<v Speaker 2>have been catching a glimpse of something that was happening. In,

1136
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:43.840
<v Speaker 2>today's age.

1137
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Possibly very possibly but THAT'S also why i wanted to

1138
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:52.000
<v Speaker 1>give all this Historical background. To pucall himself, just we're

1139
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:55.320
<v Speaker 1>clear he is not. A mythical character he's not. A

1140
00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:58.800
<v Speaker 1>metaphorical figure he was not a deity that people worshiped

1141
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:01.119
<v Speaker 1>in some. Sort of way he was a real king

1142
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:04.880
<v Speaker 1>that led and ruled from, certain realistic years and we

1143
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:08.199
<v Speaker 1>can track all. Of these things so it's not like

1144
01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:10.800
<v Speaker 1>they were giving an image to like. A sky god this.

1145
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:13.519
<v Speaker 1>Was their king this, would, be uh well.

1146
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Well he, was there trump but he was their king

1147
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:19.360
<v Speaker 2>as he, was a man but as what he was

1148
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:21.840
<v Speaker 2>alluding to earlier that he would be essentially like the

1149
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:24.639
<v Speaker 2>god and the center. Of the cosmos so maybe they

1150
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:26.480
<v Speaker 2>were looking at him a little bit differently. Once, he,

1151
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:27.599
<v Speaker 2>Died oh.

1152
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay but, my point is like To say that pacall

1153
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:33.199
<v Speaker 1>was more of a mythical creature or, a fictitious person

1154
01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:36.320
<v Speaker 1>is the, same, As Saying oh julius caesar was like

1155
01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:39.480
<v Speaker 1>a metaphorical. Or fictitious person he wasn't. A real, dude, it's,

1156
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:41.559
<v Speaker 1>like no no he was a real dude That Ruled.

1157
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:44.599
<v Speaker 1>The roman empire yakaul was a real dude That ruled.

1158
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:45.440
<v Speaker 1>The mayans well.

1159
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:49.519
<v Speaker 2>And after so many hundreds and even, thousands, of years,

1160
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:52.639
<v Speaker 2>people you know. They get mythologized, so you know you

1161
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:56.159
<v Speaker 2>started attaching myths to certain real historical, people like that

1162
01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:58.440
<v Speaker 2>and now they seem more like a myth than an actual.

1163
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Real person exactly that's probably where it gets confusing. A

1164
01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:03.559
<v Speaker 2>little bit, i, would say.

1165
01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Agreed now all of, this to say now that we've

1166
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:09.519
<v Speaker 1>gotten the Historical background top acall and his possible connections

1167
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:11.800
<v Speaker 1>with time. MACHINES and things i, got a quick little

1168
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:15.119
<v Speaker 1>five Minute Clip From History channel's ancient aliens when they

1169
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:18.599
<v Speaker 1>are talking about this region and the discovery and some

1170
01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:21.840
<v Speaker 1>people's interpretations of what we might. Be, Looking, at now

1171
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:24.920
<v Speaker 1>jonathan you saw the lid. OF this sarcophagus a couple

1172
01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:27.880
<v Speaker 1>of times, in, This, conversation right yeah when these people

1173
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:29.880
<v Speaker 1>break it down and show you what the, hands are

1174
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 1>doing and what the, feed are doing and what this

1175
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:34.320
<v Speaker 1>tube and all the stuff and the other iconography on.

1176
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:38.440
<v Speaker 1>The sarcophagus lid, at face value with neither you or

1177
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:42.760
<v Speaker 1>me being Well read, into mayan iconography we would see

1178
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:45.559
<v Speaker 1>this as a very intricate piece of artwork and probably

1179
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:48.159
<v Speaker 1>just leave. It at that but now when you see

1180
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:50.039
<v Speaker 1>these people, break it down it's going to take on

1181
01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:52.360
<v Speaker 1>a whole different shift in. Shape, FOR you.

1182
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, i believe, that you know because if you think

1183
01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:58.760
<v Speaker 2>about just the time that it would take to carve,

1184
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:01.360
<v Speaker 2>all that out whether it took days or weeks or

1185
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:04.039
<v Speaker 2>whatever you're talking, about hours whenever you could have just like,

1186
01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:07.559
<v Speaker 2>scribbled something down but instead you decide. To engrave it

1187
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:11.480
<v Speaker 2>engrave it in stone is something that's gonna last forever

1188
01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:13.760
<v Speaker 2>as long. As you know there's no water or, anything,

1189
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:17.239
<v Speaker 2>like that right and. So it it and, IN my

1190
01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:21.000
<v Speaker 2>opinion i believe that there is probably nothing on there

1191
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:24.559
<v Speaker 2>that is just. PURELY for artwork i would imagine that

1192
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:27.960
<v Speaker 2>it's all extremely symbolic in one, way or another.

1193
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:31.920
<v Speaker 1>If nothing else. Extremely specifically done nothing in this carving

1194
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:33.559
<v Speaker 1>was done by accent or just to throw.

1195
01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:36.800
<v Speaker 2>On, some, frills, no, right right yeah they weren't wasting

1196
01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:37.679
<v Speaker 2>no time Like, that.

1197
01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:42.559
<v Speaker 1>Exactly so, without further ado let's hear. From, Ancient, aliens

1198
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:45.440
<v Speaker 1>chichinitza mexico.

1199
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:51.199
<v Speaker 7>Located On, the yucatan peninsula are the ruins Of an

1200
01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:55.440
<v Speaker 7>ancient mayan city that thrived from seven fifty TO. Twelve

1201
01:02:55.559 --> 01:03:02.599
<v Speaker 7>hundred ad, it was here in nineteen Sixty Nine that

1202
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:08.119
<v Speaker 7>eric bondanagan had an amazing realization involving the city's Central Pyramid.

1203
01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:09.840
<v Speaker 7>OF el castillo.

1204
01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I was standing before.

1205
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:17.079
<v Speaker 8>THIS great pyramids. I understood nothing i took every possible

1206
01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:21.320
<v Speaker 8>Literature From a central american archaeologist to learn what's?

1207
01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:22.760
<v Speaker 1>This all ABOUT.

1208
01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:37.719
<v Speaker 8>And then i learned again they are talking of. Visitors from,

1209
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:39.559
<v Speaker 8>outside of course they.

1210
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Call them gods.

1211
01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:45.880
<v Speaker 4>According To, the ancient mayamiths their main Deity was kettl

1212
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:49.599
<v Speaker 4>Cootal Or, cukul kan cuckumuts all those different names for the,

1213
01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:53.079
<v Speaker 4>exact same deity which was described to be a winged

1214
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:58.440
<v Speaker 4>or a flying serpent or. A flying snake whatever it

1215
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:01.039
<v Speaker 4>was that they saw up in the se guy could

1216
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:04.800
<v Speaker 4>best be described as, a flying snake.

1217
01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:09.480
<v Speaker 5>Where we're looking. Across the world chichinitz is a. Very

1218
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:12.840
<v Speaker 5>important location it is one of those places where it

1219
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:16.000
<v Speaker 5>is said that the gods descended to and decreed a.

1220
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:21.320
<v Speaker 5>Fate of mankind and there is one Specific, pyramid al

1221
01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:25.400
<v Speaker 5>castillo the castle where you see an intricate light show

1222
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:30.159
<v Speaker 5>happening on Specifically the equinoxes march Twenty first and, september

1223
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:31.239
<v Speaker 5>twenty first.

1224
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:35.559
<v Speaker 8>In, the early morning you see the. Sun rising up

1225
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:38.639
<v Speaker 8>and while the sun, girls goes up you see on

1226
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:43.320
<v Speaker 8>the stairway light and shadow triangles of. Light and shadow

1227
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:47.079
<v Speaker 8>they are produced because of. The nine platforms the light

1228
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:51.559
<v Speaker 8>and shadow triangles slowly go down the step to the

1229
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:55.239
<v Speaker 8>pyramid until the sun. Is up there the message, Is

1230
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:56.639
<v Speaker 8>absolutely Clear.

1231
01:04:57.199 --> 01:04:58.239
<v Speaker 1>God kuckool khan.

1232
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:05.119
<v Speaker 8>Visited the earth this appeared again with the promise to

1233
01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:09.760
<v Speaker 8>return in a. Father away future so they have given

1234
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:12.639
<v Speaker 8>this whole information of the return of the gods Into

1235
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:13.880
<v Speaker 8>THEIR temperate.

1236
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:17.079
<v Speaker 5>And i think this is one of the Great things which,

1237
01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:19.840
<v Speaker 5>eric has done not just in The, story of chichinitza

1238
01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:23.119
<v Speaker 5>but of so many other aspects on other places in this,

1239
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:27.079
<v Speaker 5>world as well whereby he focuses on certain, details, and

1240
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:30.639
<v Speaker 5>says look. This is important this is a detail which

1241
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:34.440
<v Speaker 5>is extremely. Difficult to create this is something which traditional

1242
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:36.559
<v Speaker 5>archaeology tends to overlook.

1243
01:05:37.159 --> 01:05:40.599
<v Speaker 7>By making a connection Between the ancient mayas knowledge of

1244
01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:45.719
<v Speaker 7>astronomy and. Their precise Architecture eric von danikin was convinced

1245
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:49.400
<v Speaker 7>that there was much more to his ancient alien hypothesis than.

1246
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:53.840
<v Speaker 7>He had imagined, for further proof he Looked to, another

1247
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:57.760
<v Speaker 7>mayan temple one that housed what some say was the,

1248
01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:03.000
<v Speaker 7>First Ancient. Astronaut lord Paca at.

1249
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:06.639
<v Speaker 9>The age of Mayan city of polanke was a tomb

1250
01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:12.280
<v Speaker 9>that was discovered in. The nineteen fifties and inside this

1251
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:16.559
<v Speaker 9>tomb was a lid on A Sarcophagus.

1252
01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:18.320
<v Speaker 1>For lord pacall.

1253
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:25.280
<v Speaker 9>And that lid is very highly decorated with A Picture.

1254
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:28.639
<v Speaker 9>Of lord pacall and in that picture he's doing some.

1255
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:30.320
<v Speaker 9>Really unusual things.

1256
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:35.760
<v Speaker 8>You see a, man bending forward almost like. A rising

1257
01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:40.360
<v Speaker 8>motorcyclist he has his nose on some kind. Of oxygen

1258
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:44.000
<v Speaker 8>mask he uses his upper hand to manipulate and not

1259
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:48.079
<v Speaker 8>you see. His lower hand he. Manipulates some controls he's

1260
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:50.159
<v Speaker 8>sitting on a kind of chair in a.

1261
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Sort Of capsule.

1262
01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:57.119
<v Speaker 7>When eric looked, at that lid He saw.

1263
01:06:57.079 --> 01:07:00.559
<v Speaker 9>A mayan king in, a rocket ship and that guy

1264
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:04.199
<v Speaker 9>was returning, to the stars going. Back into space it was,

1265
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:07.559
<v Speaker 9>an exciting interpretation and it was one of the Main

1266
01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:10.760
<v Speaker 9>things in Chariots. Of the gods and when other people

1267
01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:15.400
<v Speaker 9>looked at that lid and, saw his explanation they they

1268
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:15.719
<v Speaker 9>had to.

1269
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:22.119
<v Speaker 7>Agree With him Called eric von. Dannikin Be Correct was

1270
01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:26.480
<v Speaker 7>lord pacall really an extra Terrestrial who visited earth in,

1271
01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:33.039
<v Speaker 7>the distant past one who perhaps shared highly advanced? Knowledge, with, mankind.

1272
01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay now the idea that this was, A rocket ship

1273
01:07:40.199 --> 01:07:42.360
<v Speaker 1>i could see where they're coming, From with this but

1274
01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:47.079
<v Speaker 1>there's no indication of whether in the conversation whether it

1275
01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:50.400
<v Speaker 1>was a time machine or an astronaut or something some sort,

1276
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:53.199
<v Speaker 1>of a craft some sort of mechanism that he was

1277
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:56.719
<v Speaker 1>operating right, like they said you saw the little tube going,

1278
01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to his. Face his Nose no other mayan ikenography shows

1279
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:04.480
<v Speaker 1>anything like that going to a person's face. From the

1280
01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:08.320
<v Speaker 1>mechanism their hands are not working the gears and mechanics

1281
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:12.000
<v Speaker 1>of some. Sort of device the foot is nowhere else.

1282
01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Near a pedal most of them show them sitting in

1283
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:17.279
<v Speaker 1>a almost fetal position with their chest upright and they're

1284
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:20.319
<v Speaker 1>doing something, With, their hands yes but nothing looks.

1285
01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:24.039
<v Speaker 2>Like, this one yeah, that is man that. IS pretty

1286
01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:26.079
<v Speaker 2>wild i really don't know what to. Make of that?

1287
01:08:26.239 --> 01:08:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Is it symbolic? IS it literal i mean what? Did

1288
01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:31.960
<v Speaker 2>they mean even if it was just? SYMBOLIC or, literal

1289
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:34.720
<v Speaker 2>i mean how are you supposed? To TAKE that and

1290
01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:37.640
<v Speaker 2>i think that you probably have to get the interpretation

1291
01:08:37.800 --> 01:08:41.199
<v Speaker 2>from a. Theologian in general and that's the problem with

1292
01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:44.359
<v Speaker 2>a lot of, these archaeology things Like anybody any i'm

1293
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:46.279
<v Speaker 2>not going to say anybody can, be an archaeologist but

1294
01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:52.600
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't it doesn't require necessarily like the the scholarly

1295
01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:57.640
<v Speaker 2>type of knowledge from a theologian to an archaeologist is not?

1296
01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:00.760
<v Speaker 1>What, FOR what no i, Agree with that but again,

1297
01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:04.039
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, on the sarcophagus they had other depictions

1298
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:07.319
<v Speaker 1>of other great leaders and his family members being. Reborn,

1299
01:09:07.359 --> 01:09:11.119
<v Speaker 1>As trees right so the process of dying and ascending

1300
01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:13.199
<v Speaker 1>to the heavens and then being reborn, as a tree

1301
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and that whole thing was depicted in other places on the,

1302
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:21.439
<v Speaker 1>sarcophagus in question. But not his his showed him in

1303
01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:25.600
<v Speaker 1>a completely different way doing a. Completely different, FUNCTION.

1304
01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Hold ON i am i? Getting this confused is are

1305
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you are we saying that this tomb was found at The.

1306
01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:34.399
<v Speaker 2>Top of, chiechanitza, now, no.

1307
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:37.840
<v Speaker 1>No no no they were talking About your guy ruiz

1308
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:40.880
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, his name is who was also the one

1309
01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:43.199
<v Speaker 1>that was doing some Work. In chi chanitza they were

1310
01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:45.319
<v Speaker 1>talking about how they showed the snake and how these

1311
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:48.439
<v Speaker 1>people had a in depth. Knowledge of astronomy these people

1312
01:09:48.479 --> 01:09:51.039
<v Speaker 1>had the in depth knowledge, of the sky gods and.

1313
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:53.840
<v Speaker 1>All these things they believed in. Them so heavily then

1314
01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:58.840
<v Speaker 1>they were talking about His. Discovery at peking i'm forgetting

1315
01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the name of the. City Real, Quick, Oh, Palaque.

1316
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Palaque, yeah palanqui right.

1317
01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:10.720
<v Speaker 1>So they're saying that basically this dude shared the same

1318
01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:13.319
<v Speaker 1>culture as the ones Who, built, chichen, Itza right right

1319
01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:17.000
<v Speaker 1>so they all were of the, same religious mindset spiritual

1320
01:10:17.079 --> 01:10:20.119
<v Speaker 1>mindset and all these things ascending. To the heavens that

1321
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:24.600
<v Speaker 1>was a pretty traversible concept. For these people being reborn

1322
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:28.279
<v Speaker 1>as a tree a, pretty you know. Traversible spiritual concept

1323
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:31.439
<v Speaker 1>but nowhere else is there a depiction of a dude

1324
01:10:31.880 --> 01:10:35.880
<v Speaker 1>in a way his body even positioned, in this way

1325
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:40.079
<v Speaker 1>let alone steering a craft. Of some type. That's an

1326
01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:41.079
<v Speaker 1>outlier let.

1327
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Me ask You as, a christian man what do you

1328
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:48.039
<v Speaker 2>make of snakes and all? These ancient cultures, is it

1329
01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:51.920
<v Speaker 2>like are you interpreting that as like that's the deceiver

1330
01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:53.840
<v Speaker 2>or are you looking at that in.

1331
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:58.840
<v Speaker 1>A different way so personally and not Even, as a

1332
01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:02.119
<v Speaker 1>christian This is just jacob's Gonna. BEHALF of jacob i

1333
01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:06.760
<v Speaker 1>have one phobia, on this earth. Only one thing that,

1334
01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:10.199
<v Speaker 1>really and truly if you see me squealing like, a

1335
01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:13.239
<v Speaker 1>little schoolgirl IT'S probably because i saw or have. Something

1336
01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:16.399
<v Speaker 1>near me, it's not spiders, it's not bugs. It's not.

1337
01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Roaches its snakes that is the one thing that no

1338
01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:24.119
<v Speaker 1>matter what, that gives, ME the creeps i don't. Deal, with,

1339
01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:24.840
<v Speaker 1>THEM well.

1340
01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:30.079
<v Speaker 2>No, i GET that but i mean that's but there's.

1341
01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:31.960
<v Speaker 1>A lot of significance to them to a lot of

1342
01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:35.199
<v Speaker 1>cultures and religions and tribes. Around the world tribes never, saw,

1343
01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:39.079
<v Speaker 1>Each Other right the druids revered snakes in, a very.

1344
01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Heavy heavy way So, did the romans, by, the way

1345
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:45.880
<v Speaker 1>right So, did the greeks So did, the asian communities

1346
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:50.640
<v Speaker 1>And So Did. Meso america India, so, like INDIA absolutely

1347
01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:54.720
<v Speaker 1>so i am of the belief that they hold a

1348
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:59.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of significance to any place. Where, They live however

1349
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:02.760
<v Speaker 1>i'm not one hundred percent sold that This was clearly

1350
01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:06.319
<v Speaker 1>satan deceiving his people. Around, the world okay could? IT

1351
01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:09.279
<v Speaker 1>be sure i understand the thought. PROCESS on that i

1352
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:11.600
<v Speaker 1>could see the pieces of the tapestry being put together.

1353
01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:11.760
<v Speaker 7>On.

1354
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:15.479
<v Speaker 1>THAT one right i also can acknowledge that the same

1355
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:18.079
<v Speaker 1>thing could be said, about, The, eagle right.

1356
01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:20.359
<v Speaker 2>YEAH for, sure i mean as far as, the symbolism

1357
01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:23.720
<v Speaker 2>goes it's like it's evolved version of the. Snake or

1358
01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:25.760
<v Speaker 2>whatever it's just.

1359
01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Every tribe has eagles are like a. Highly. Revered bird

1360
01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:33.840
<v Speaker 1>specifically there's all kinds of different, types of birds but.

1361
01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:36.479
<v Speaker 1>Specifically the eagle it doesn't matter If, you're In, rome In,

1362
01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:40.880
<v Speaker 1>egypt In, india in China, in meso, america and yeah maybe,

1363
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the bald eagle maybe, the brown eagle maybe, it, Doesn't

1364
01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:46.920
<v Speaker 1>matter right they all acknowledge that that specific bird's got something.

1365
01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Extra with it it's a gangster bird.

1366
01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Of PREY exactly so i feel like all tribes can

1367
01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:57.000
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that snakes, have, A thing right and there's also

1368
01:12:57.039 --> 01:12:59.720
<v Speaker 1>something to be said for. The human psyche there's a

1369
01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:02.880
<v Speaker 1>reason and why in ancient times if a woman was

1370
01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:06.439
<v Speaker 1>having a hard time actually, delivering a baby they would

1371
01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:09.279
<v Speaker 1>throw a snake skin on her stomach and it would scare.

1372
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:10.479
<v Speaker 1>The baby out.

1373
01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a that's a.

1374
01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Very ancient practice so there is something we talked about

1375
01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:17.760
<v Speaker 1>This on the. Live, here recently right how dogs and

1376
01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:21.760
<v Speaker 1>humans have been so interconnected for thousands and thousands of

1377
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:24.199
<v Speaker 1>years that we even resonate with each other and give

1378
01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:28.640
<v Speaker 1>each other. Serotonin, FROM touch right i believe that snakes

1379
01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:32.159
<v Speaker 1>in some way have gone against humans for so long

1380
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:37.319
<v Speaker 1>that we also have a inherent chemical thing that happens

1381
01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:39.720
<v Speaker 1>within our brains when. We see them some, people love

1382
01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:42.159
<v Speaker 1>it some. People hate them you notice nobody's ever really.

1383
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Neutral about snakes they're either LIKE super oh, i love

1384
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:48.000
<v Speaker 1>snakes or like y'all don't, Fucking like, THOSE like yeah.

1385
01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I, wonder you know there's there's the symbolic understanding of

1386
01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:54.840
<v Speaker 2>snakes and then the the literal, like you know we're all,

1387
01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:57.159
<v Speaker 2>scared of snakes but, to, be, Honest like yeah i'm

1388
01:13:57.199 --> 01:13:59.159
<v Speaker 2>scared to death of. FUCKING snakes, TOO i, fuck i

1389
01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:01.680
<v Speaker 2>like don't put. That around me I'm like bammar jarro like.

1390
01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:03.279
<v Speaker 2>KEEP that shit i will have a full on PANIC

1391
01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:07.039
<v Speaker 2>attack if i, See a snake, But you know i'd

1392
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:09.319
<v Speaker 2>probably have the same kind of PANIC attack if i

1393
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:11.640
<v Speaker 2>walked outside my front door and saw. Fucking polar, bear

1394
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:13.640
<v Speaker 2>you know like you're done At that.

1395
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Going you should polar bear is the Only animal on

1396
01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:20.159
<v Speaker 1>earth that actively and aggressively. Hunts human beings no other

1397
01:14:20.199 --> 01:14:22.279
<v Speaker 1>animal like sees us as, a food source. But they,

1398
01:14:22.359 --> 01:14:25.319
<v Speaker 1>do so yeah you should be scared of polar Bears unless.

1399
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:29.600
<v Speaker 1>A coca, cola you know THEN maybe. MAYBE i would

1400
01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:32.159
<v Speaker 1>i might test those waters AND see if i can get,

1401
01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:35.720
<v Speaker 1>It from him but, like you. Know. We'll see, yeah

1402
01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:40.119
<v Speaker 1>but anyway so as far as the imagery of snakes

1403
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:43.279
<v Speaker 1>and my personal spiritual, BELIEFS on them i think that

1404
01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:46.920
<v Speaker 1>there may be. Something, TO it well i believe there

1405
01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:50.840
<v Speaker 1>is definitely something to them, as spiritually speaking from the animal.

1406
01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:54.560
<v Speaker 1>To human transference i'm not going TO say that i

1407
01:14:54.600 --> 01:14:57.439
<v Speaker 1>believe that all of This proves that satan was doing

1408
01:14:57.479 --> 01:15:00.840
<v Speaker 1>his deceiving game to Every. Man ON earth but i

1409
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:03.560
<v Speaker 1>also could understand why people would. Draw that conclusion you can.

1410
01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Understand that angle and you know, what's interesting too is,

1411
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:08.199
<v Speaker 2>that YOU know and i Know that the Egyptians and

1412
01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:11.119
<v Speaker 2>the mayans. Two different people but as Far as, the

1413
01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:13.079
<v Speaker 2>egyptians go if you, think about it like a lot

1414
01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:16.239
<v Speaker 2>of their, symbolism and stuff they always had a lot

1415
01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:20.239
<v Speaker 2>of symbolism of, snakes and, cats right yeah and those

1416
01:15:20.279 --> 01:15:23.720
<v Speaker 2>are the two species. With slid eyes so it, makes you,

1417
01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:26.199
<v Speaker 2>wonder you know it makes you makes you wonder like who,

1418
01:15:26.239 --> 01:15:28.760
<v Speaker 2>they were worshiping what, they were worshiping like why so

1419
01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:31.720
<v Speaker 2>specifically the. Slid eye variety.

1420
01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:35.800
<v Speaker 1>That's a, VERY good, point i mean and, that being

1421
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:38.880
<v Speaker 1>said we should say reptiles have. The, slid, eyes snakes

1422
01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:41.159
<v Speaker 1>yes but there's other types of reptiles that do have

1423
01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:43.760
<v Speaker 1>those slid. Eyes and, stuff but yeah there might be

1424
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:45.560
<v Speaker 1>something to. That as, well You know the egyptians were

1425
01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:47.960
<v Speaker 1>big with like looking at the eyes The eye of. Horus, for,

1426
01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:51.319
<v Speaker 1>instance yeah. Yeah, Big time anyway so what?

1427
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:52.520
<v Speaker 2>We got, Here all.

1428
01:15:52.479 --> 01:15:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Right we're gonna read a little bit. Into this story

1429
01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:58.159
<v Speaker 1>some of the theories that are that have been proposed

1430
01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Surrounding call the great range from being an astronaut to. A,

1431
01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:05.600
<v Speaker 1>time traveler again this is the death mask that he

1432
01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:09.319
<v Speaker 1>was wearing, in his sarcophagus completely. Made of jade, that.

1433
01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Is insanity, dude oh, yeah.

1434
01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:16.439
<v Speaker 2>That's badass dude all right now. SOMETHING like, that i.

1435
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Mean we can it's just how much money you're trying, to.

1436
01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:21.399
<v Speaker 2>COME off, dude i mean might have to get a little.

1437
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Donation set up we can get, a jade mask.

1438
01:16:24.359 --> 01:16:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god Like even the pharaohs with their gold

1439
01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:32.119
<v Speaker 1>death masks. For their sarcophagus this, is priceless artifacts not

1440
01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:34.079
<v Speaker 1>just for the weight of gold, that was used but

1441
01:16:34.479 --> 01:16:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the construction and the time frame and. All these things

1442
01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:40.920
<v Speaker 1>this jade mask is equally in the conversation of being. A,

1443
01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:44.399
<v Speaker 1>priceless artifact oh there's there's no way to even put

1444
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:46.239
<v Speaker 1>a dollar. AMOUNT on, This i mean i'm sure if

1445
01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:48.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody in the black, market Still could BUT i'm bro

1446
01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:50.520
<v Speaker 1>i don't even know how to put an.

1447
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:52.399
<v Speaker 2>Evaluation, on that well and if you look at his,

1448
01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:55.319
<v Speaker 2>necklaces there too they said that they wore that jade. By,

1449
01:16:55.319 --> 01:16:59.239
<v Speaker 2>the pound yeah so that they had some fun they

1450
01:16:59.359 --> 01:17:01.680
<v Speaker 2>like shoulder pads walking. AROUND every day.

1451
01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was a, status symbol absolutely but also,

1452
01:17:04.720 --> 01:17:07.680
<v Speaker 1>like you said, for spiritual significance because they saw jade

1453
01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:11.159
<v Speaker 1>as being equivalent to walking around with one of, cuts of. Quattles.

1454
01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Actual, Feathers yeah yeah well and those those jade eggs

1455
01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:19.560
<v Speaker 2>are REALLY good for i think some people would use

1456
01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:21.439
<v Speaker 2>them that they'll like freeze them and then use them,

1457
01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:24.399
<v Speaker 2>for their face like to get rid of wrinkles and

1458
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:26.399
<v Speaker 2>bags and shit. Like that, too, SO maybe yeah i

1459
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:28.800
<v Speaker 2>mean you're talking about, how this, guy you know he he,

1460
01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:30.680
<v Speaker 2>lived to eighty but. He looked forty maybe he was

1461
01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:31.640
<v Speaker 2>doing the old jade egg.

1462
01:17:31.680 --> 01:17:31.760
<v Speaker 3>On.

1463
01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:32.560
<v Speaker 2>The face bro.

1464
01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he had an ancient skin routine that we just

1465
01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:37.359
<v Speaker 1>don't KNOW about because i didn't. Write, IT down look.

1466
01:17:37.359 --> 01:17:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know i need to.

1467
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:41.079
<v Speaker 2>KNOW about this i need to. Know about this con

1468
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:41.680
<v Speaker 2>you zuming on?

1469
01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:44.760
<v Speaker 1>That for, ME uh YEAH i THOUGHT i had i

1470
01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:45.560
<v Speaker 1>consume a. Little.

1471
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Bit more here it's a, little baby, print ALL right so.

1472
01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I can read It if you, IF you no i can.

1473
01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:51.840
<v Speaker 1>See it now it's. Small.

1474
01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Fucking type So kenich janab Pakal was a mayan Governor

1475
01:17:55.760 --> 01:17:58.319
<v Speaker 2>of the palanquet region between the year six fifteen and,

1476
01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:03.000
<v Speaker 2>six eighty five a period of advancement and prosperity. For

1477
01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:07.520
<v Speaker 2>its inhabitants according to the History recorded in Stone by.

1478
01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:13.640
<v Speaker 2>The mayans themselves pacaul died at At an approximately he

1479
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:16.800
<v Speaker 2>died at approximately. Eighty, years old sorry. About, that brainform

1480
01:18:17.119 --> 01:18:20.119
<v Speaker 2>however studies showed that his body corresponds to that of

1481
01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:23.640
<v Speaker 2>the man of. In his forties according to the description

1482
01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:27.000
<v Speaker 2>in hieroglyphics and studies that have been made of his remains,

1483
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:31.079
<v Speaker 2>More than once pacall was robust and measured approximately one point,

1484
01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:34.159
<v Speaker 2>seven meters tall a description that does not correspond to

1485
01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:39.760
<v Speaker 2>That of. A? Mayan octagenarian octagenarian how.

1486
01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:42.479
<v Speaker 1>Tall is one point seven meters convery. Defeat and inches.

1487
01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:46.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm just, curious let's see because like dark about how

1488
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:50.319
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a pretty tall dude compared to. His contemporaries,

1489
01:18:50.319 --> 01:18:52.760
<v Speaker 1>HERE and yes i understand because he was. Eating, BETTER

1490
01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:56.920
<v Speaker 1>food okay, I understand, that but like how extra? Tall

1491
01:18:57.079 --> 01:18:59.000
<v Speaker 1>IS this because i, want to say the average, height

1492
01:18:59.039 --> 01:19:01.560
<v Speaker 1>of people especially this time was like five.

1493
01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Four five, five uh yeah that is five point, five

1494
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:09.720
<v Speaker 2>seven feet so a little over five, and a half

1495
01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:13.560
<v Speaker 2>so like five five foot six and, a half fish.

1496
01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:18.000
<v Speaker 1>And that was consider its tall. To his contemporaries yeah little.

1497
01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Little, baby men, yeah so yeah so he's one point.

1498
01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Seven meters tall many experts say that the tombstone on

1499
01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:29.840
<v Speaker 2>his grave portrays pecall sitting in a, kind of ship

1500
01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:32.560
<v Speaker 2>given that his hands and feet seemed to be operating

1501
01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:35.880
<v Speaker 2>some sort of. Board and pedals in addition to that

1502
01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:39.600
<v Speaker 2>would Be the rear fire, can be seen apparently coming

1503
01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:42.880
<v Speaker 2>from the propeller. Of the ship this and other evidence

1504
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:47.159
<v Speaker 2>around his tomb have Fueled the legend pacall had that

1505
01:19:47.239 --> 01:19:49.479
<v Speaker 2>the had the means to visit outer space and even.

1506
01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Travel through time that's.

1507
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Another thing too fire coming out the base of it

1508
01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:58.680
<v Speaker 1>is not something that you see another mayanaia. Icinography, at

1509
01:19:58.680 --> 01:20:01.000
<v Speaker 1>all right if It was The, tree of life he

1510
01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:03.079
<v Speaker 1>might be, climbing the tree or the tree will be

1511
01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:05.439
<v Speaker 1>growing with him, on a branch elevating him. To this

1512
01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:08.199
<v Speaker 1>position you're not gonna have Fire near The, tree. Of,

1513
01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:09.199
<v Speaker 1>life dude.

1514
01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that would probably burn it down, a little, bit

1515
01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:11.239
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1516
01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:14.239
<v Speaker 1>A little bit so this is the, sarcophagus in question

1517
01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and this is one of the sides depicting one of

1518
01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:20.239
<v Speaker 1>his family members on a tree Being reborn as i'm

1519
01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:22.399
<v Speaker 1>not sure if this is one of the cacals or

1520
01:20:22.479 --> 01:20:27.199
<v Speaker 1>the nance or the. Avocado, or avocadoo, uh but yeah.

1521
01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:29.039
<v Speaker 1>That's the tomb it's, the sarcophagus.

1522
01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Itself all right So who Was? Pacall the great you can.

1523
01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:36.399
<v Speaker 2>See another, depiction uh yeah we already read about when his.

1524
01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:39.439
<v Speaker 2>Tomb was, discovered excuse me this is another image, of

1525
01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:42.800
<v Speaker 2>pacall okay and he's not operating some sort of. Thing

1526
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:45.640
<v Speaker 2>like that he's sitting on a throne which was carved

1527
01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:48.279
<v Speaker 2>to have like two different heads of like a jungle.

1528
01:20:48.319 --> 01:20:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Cat looking thing but you notice This is, regular. Mayan

1529
01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:56.199
<v Speaker 1>iconography right his hands are, in a yes they're, in

1530
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a position but he's not in a very specific looking

1531
01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:01.439
<v Speaker 1>like he's riding a motorcycle. Type.

1532
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Of position, yeah that's man that's a, pretty, cool PICTURE.

1533
01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Right so i think it might. BE his mom.

1534
01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know it does make, you wonder though because

1535
01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:12.439
<v Speaker 2>look at it looks like fucking cat dog that. He's

1536
01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:16.760
<v Speaker 2>sitting on and, and you know you don't have people

1537
01:21:16.920 --> 01:21:19.760
<v Speaker 2>going out in the jungles saying look he was he

1538
01:21:19.880 --> 01:21:22.039
<v Speaker 2>was sitting on. A cat dog so that must be

1539
01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:24.319
<v Speaker 2>that must be. Literal with it it must exist. In

1540
01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:26.399
<v Speaker 2>the forest we got to go. Look for it it's

1541
01:21:26.399 --> 01:21:27.319
<v Speaker 2>not until.

1542
01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:30.279
<v Speaker 1>It might have been a nod to the occult reasoning

1543
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Of the ancient Mayan deities That, nickelodeon show man.

1544
01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:37.199
<v Speaker 2>We don't, know, oh Yeah well nickel lodi in remember

1545
01:21:37.319 --> 01:21:39.479
<v Speaker 2>like we, broke that DOWN it's Like i HATE god

1546
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:41.399
<v Speaker 2>or i Don't, believe in god or, something like that

1547
01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:43.960
<v Speaker 2>whenever you break It Down. INTO greek nickelodeon, i was.

1548
01:21:43.960 --> 01:21:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Joking but DAMN now that, I, SAID that okay i mean.

1549
01:21:47.079 --> 01:21:47.159
<v Speaker 4>In.

1550
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Checks out So born, on march twenty third of, Six

1551
01:21:51.479 --> 01:21:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh Three kennich jana pacall was a descendant of his

1552
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:57.920
<v Speaker 2>mother's side of the dynasty That rolled palanqu when his

1553
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:00.640
<v Speaker 2>grandfather and, his brother died who governed in the region That,

1554
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:03.399
<v Speaker 2>corresponds to palanqua a part of a part, of the

1555
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:09.359
<v Speaker 2>nobility decided to separate and Settle In, Toward, Tortghero, Tortguero.

1556
01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:12.159
<v Speaker 1>Tabasco, Tortuguero tobasco.

1557
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile pacall's Parents returned to palankay to raise him. To

1558
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:18.119
<v Speaker 2>the throne because although his, mother SUCKED cock.

1559
01:22:19.479 --> 01:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Sorry.

1560
01:22:19.920 --> 01:22:23.479
<v Speaker 2>I had to, I get it, i get it she

1561
01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:27.680
<v Speaker 2>was the legit or his mother was, the legitimate heir

1562
01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:30.479
<v Speaker 2>the position that could only be occupied. By A male

1563
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:33.640
<v Speaker 2>so pacall Became governor of palanqua when he was only.

1564
01:22:33.640 --> 01:22:36.199
<v Speaker 2>Twelve years, old at first it was thought that the

1565
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:38.760
<v Speaker 2>tombstone was, just an altar but when it was removed

1566
01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:43.439
<v Speaker 2>the governor's. Sarcophagus was found it was then when it

1567
01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:47.119
<v Speaker 2>was Discovered that the mesoamerican pyramids also served as a

1568
01:22:47.119 --> 01:22:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Mausoleum as the.

1569
01:22:48.760 --> 01:22:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Egyptians, used to indeed, none of this again is the.

1570
01:22:52.199 --> 01:22:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Building in question so let's talk a Little bit. About

1571
01:22:55.680 --> 01:22:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Pecall's government.

1572
01:22:57.319 --> 01:22:59.880
<v Speaker 2>So pecall's time on the throne was one of. Peace

1573
01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:02.840
<v Speaker 2>and prosperity he married at the age Of, twenty three,

1574
01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:09.520
<v Speaker 2>tzabaku a jaw with whom he, had five children of

1575
01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:12.359
<v Speaker 2>whom were two of them were governors. After his father,

1576
01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:16.560
<v Speaker 2>during His government plan kay had confrontations with those Who,

1577
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:22.119
<v Speaker 2>settled in tutugero but never. Succumbed, to them furthermore he

1578
01:23:22.159 --> 01:23:25.760
<v Speaker 2>took military action against those who, invaded his territory, always

1579
01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:28.720
<v Speaker 2>emerging victorious.

1580
01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Which is a pretty. Solid Track record so i'm not

1581
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:33.960
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent whose death mask we're. Looking at, here

1582
01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>but again look at this artwork and all the specific

1583
01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>types of jewelry that. Is, being worn again notice the jade,

1584
01:23:41.079 --> 01:23:44.239
<v Speaker 1>being used whenever. Very VERY symbolic.

1585
01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Whenever i get my Body, shipped TO maine, whenever I

1586
01:23:46.399 --> 01:23:48.640
<v Speaker 2>die so i can Have a. PROPER viking sendoff i

1587
01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:52.399
<v Speaker 2>want one Of. Those, masks maine yeah that's they Do,

1588
01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:54.359
<v Speaker 2>that In maine the. VIKING send, off.

1589
01:23:55.119 --> 01:23:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I, Mean that's fair but then, all that jade all

1590
01:23:57.600 --> 01:23:59.439
<v Speaker 1>that money is going to be just be lost to

1591
01:23:59.479 --> 01:24:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of every body of water. WE'RE talking, about.

1592
01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I, mean you know Old girl from titanic didn't really

1593
01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:06.039
<v Speaker 2>think that it was that big of a deal to

1594
01:24:06.039 --> 01:24:07.000
<v Speaker 2>throw that sapphire back.

1595
01:24:07.039 --> 01:24:09.600
<v Speaker 1>In the ocean that pissed me. Off so much at

1596
01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the end, of that movie all of this shit was to,

1597
01:24:11.760 --> 01:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>find this jewel, and in reality you had the jewel

1598
01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:17.319
<v Speaker 1>in your pocket. The entire time you just wanted to

1599
01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:19.640
<v Speaker 1>go and tell everybody the story of you getting banged

1600
01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:22.560
<v Speaker 1>out on a boat on Your. Way to america that was.

1601
01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:23.680
<v Speaker 1>The entire point.

1602
01:24:24.239 --> 01:24:26.479
<v Speaker 2>Back back, IN my day i used to, have perky

1603
01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:30.600
<v Speaker 2>nipples and he portrayed, me, like this like of course

1604
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:32.079
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't be able to TELL now because, i have,

1605
01:24:32.159 --> 01:24:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Old saggy skin but AT one time i was. A hot, piece,

1606
01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:37.680
<v Speaker 2>she said like.

1607
01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>It, blows my mind, because that, jewel that sapphire was worth. A,

1608
01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Literal fortune yeah and that was how they were funding

1609
01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the expedition under the pretense is that they were going

1610
01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>to find this jewel and pay back all the loans

1611
01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>that they took to. Go out, there in reality she

1612
01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:56.439
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to, tell these people. INCLUDING her granddaughter i

1613
01:24:56.479 --> 01:24:59.039
<v Speaker 1>should add about the time that she got banged out

1614
01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>when she was sixteen in the Back OF a model

1615
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:03.880
<v Speaker 1>a on a boat, that went down and then at

1616
01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:06.399
<v Speaker 1>the end, of, it like oh you mean this jewel

1617
01:25:06.399 --> 01:25:08.880
<v Speaker 1>that could have funded all of this and we didn't

1618
01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:10.399
<v Speaker 1>even need to come out here in the. First Damn

1619
01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:12.439
<v Speaker 1>place now i'm just gonna throw it over the side

1620
01:25:12.479 --> 01:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and say fuck The world because i'm about, to DIE

1621
01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:16.319
<v Speaker 1>anyway and i. Don't care, anymore, it's like bro. That,

1622
01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:18.439
<v Speaker 1>selfish bitch yeah.

1623
01:25:18.159 --> 01:25:21.520
<v Speaker 2>She wanted to keep it for throw, it back, symbolically

1624
01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:24.159
<v Speaker 2>you know keep it pure. IN that sense. I get

1625
01:25:24.199 --> 01:25:25.279
<v Speaker 2>it you just go to.

1626
01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:28.319
<v Speaker 1>A Pier Over the atlantic, ocean and, hum that bitch

1627
01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:29.159
<v Speaker 1>it's the same. Body.

1628
01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Of WATER yeah, but i mean didn't she chuck it

1629
01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:35.479
<v Speaker 2>Like where, The, titanic sank yeah.

1630
01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Right over and she just like dropped it and there Was. Like,

1631
01:25:37.680 --> 01:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>goodbye jack meanwhile, keep in mind that expensive ass boat

1632
01:25:40.600 --> 01:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>that you're on had to be paid, for by somebody

1633
01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and it was supposed to be paid For. By that sapphire.

1634
01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:49.199
<v Speaker 1>You just, hummed but okay. The movie was it was

1635
01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:51.600
<v Speaker 1>great for. What it was but, then that ending boy.

1636
01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Had me LIVID that's, what.

1637
01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:56.279
<v Speaker 2>I actually people Talk. SHIT on titanic i think it's

1638
01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:59.319
<v Speaker 2>one of. The best movies that's a that's a, top and.

1639
01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Excellent excellent movie just the, ending was.

1640
01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Horrible that's all it's supposed. To, be romantic jacob.

1641
01:26:07.640 --> 01:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Fuck That she did froman's gonna pay. For that boat

1642
01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>she ain't gotta pay, for, that, shit now. No she

1643
01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>ain't she probably died on, the way back. The old bitch.

1644
01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Probably she should have just threw. Her self overboard You know.

1645
01:26:20.079 --> 01:26:21.880
<v Speaker 1>What i'm saying why not go be with your.

1646
01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:22.119
<v Speaker 7>Long.

1647
01:26:22.199 --> 01:26:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Lost, Lover shit so pacall promoted the productive activity, of

1648
01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:30.399
<v Speaker 2>the region both for trade and, for local consumption in

1649
01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:33.840
<v Speaker 2>addition to reactivating ceremonies, and public events which earned him

1650
01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:36.680
<v Speaker 2>the appreciation. Of the people he also promoted the written

1651
01:26:37.039 --> 01:26:41.720
<v Speaker 2>record of, all, military actions ceremonies, and important events which

1652
01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:44.640
<v Speaker 2>has helped historians and archaeologists of our times to better

1653
01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:48.359
<v Speaker 2>study and understand the history Of palan k pacaull's tombstone

1654
01:26:48.479 --> 01:26:52.039
<v Speaker 2>measured three point eight three point, eight meters long by

1655
01:26:52.079 --> 01:26:56.039
<v Speaker 2>two point two meters wide and seven. Weighed seven tons it's.

1656
01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:56.800
<v Speaker 2>A hefty one.

1657
01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Fourteen thousand pounds.

1658
01:27:00.520 --> 01:27:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Is that how much? Seven tons is so a ton is.

1659
01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Two. Thousand, pounds, yeah Now actually as, I'm saying that

1660
01:27:07.159 --> 01:27:09.079
<v Speaker 1>i'm not sure if this is a metric ton or.

1661
01:27:09.119 --> 01:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>A standard ton so actually that might even be, more

1662
01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>than that because a metric ton is two point two,

1663
01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:20.039
<v Speaker 1>thousand or sorry a ton is. TWO thousand pounds, a

1664
01:27:20.119 --> 01:27:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Metric ton if, i'm not mistaken is twenty. Two HUNDRED

1665
01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:24.880
<v Speaker 1>pounds so. I don't know but on, the low end

1666
01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:27.399
<v Speaker 1>this lid alone.

1667
01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Fourteen thousand pounds.

1668
01:27:29.119 --> 01:27:29.359
<v Speaker 1>That's.

1669
01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Fucking insane yeah they had to get four lifts on,

1670
01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:35.359
<v Speaker 2>that fucking thing four fucking floor jacks to lift the bitch.

1671
01:27:35.399 --> 01:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Up pretty heavy it shows that the governor as the center.

1672
01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Of the universe below, is the underworld in the middle the,

1673
01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:48.920
<v Speaker 2>tree of life and above The God it's momna Mamnah. Represented,

1674
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:50.119
<v Speaker 2>as quetzel.

1675
01:27:50.720 --> 01:27:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Indeed so now this is the, image, In question right so.

1676
01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:56.720
<v Speaker 2>This is that tree of life that. They're alluding to.

1677
01:27:57.359 --> 01:27:59.680
<v Speaker 1>They're saying that this is the tree of life. That

1678
01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>he had happens to be kind. Of traversing on this

1679
01:28:03.239 --> 01:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>is the sky, god in question and this is supposed to.

1680
01:28:06.760 --> 01:28:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Be the underworld even though.

1681
01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>These are flames it almost does kind of, look mechanic?

1682
01:28:12.039 --> 01:28:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Though doesn't it.

1683
01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:17.079
<v Speaker 1>It really, does and again There's no other mayan iconography

1684
01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:20.399
<v Speaker 1>that shows anything. Close, to, this dude, yeah that is

1685
01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and this thing? Touching his Face no other mayan iconography shows.

1686
01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Something like, that all right what the fuck do we?

1687
01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:30.520
<v Speaker 2>THINK that is i have an idea about what, it

1688
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:33.520
<v Speaker 2>could be but what do you think is going? INTO

1689
01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:34.319
<v Speaker 2>his nose.

1690
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't just, looking, AT it bro i got a,

1691
01:28:37.680 --> 01:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>couple OF theories but. I don't know i understand completely

1692
01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that they would think that this is some sort of,

1693
01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a BREATHING apparatus and i don't inherently, Disagree right this

1694
01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't have to be a whole face mask

1695
01:28:48.039 --> 01:28:50.199
<v Speaker 1>that would cover it up to where you couldn't tell who.

1696
01:28:50.239 --> 01:28:53.359
<v Speaker 1>You're looking at for the, imagery of it it would

1697
01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>make more sense that they would just kind of show

1698
01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:58.039
<v Speaker 1>a tube going, to, His face right and it has

1699
01:28:58.079 --> 01:29:00.319
<v Speaker 1>to be touching the show that there is a connection to.

1700
01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>His actual face and it's not like they had the

1701
01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>wherewith thought to come up with what we would now

1702
01:29:04.800 --> 01:29:06.359
<v Speaker 1>see like when we think of a face mask that you,

1703
01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:08.479
<v Speaker 1>would breathe through you might think of like. A, fighter

1704
01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>pilot right they got that mass that they lash on,

1705
01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>to their helmet and they got a tube to where

1706
01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:14.199
<v Speaker 1>they can get oxygen and high elevations.

1707
01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:16.199
<v Speaker 2>And all that it's. Not like that it's.

1708
01:29:16.279 --> 01:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Not like that but if they would have shown that

1709
01:29:18.039 --> 01:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>we couldn't, see, his Face right and i'm not saying

1710
01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>that he even had, something like that it's also very

1711
01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:25.479
<v Speaker 1>possible that it was something close to like a. Nasal,

1712
01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:27.039
<v Speaker 1>fare andngeal right do you know?

1713
01:29:27.079 --> 01:29:27.159
<v Speaker 4>What?

1714
01:29:27.199 --> 01:29:31.399
<v Speaker 1>That, Is no okay So In THE marine corps i went.

1715
01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Through this program IT was a csl, COMBAT or yeah cls.

1716
01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Combat life saver and for anybody listening, that's a vetteran

1717
01:29:38.079 --> 01:29:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you probably just started chuckling to yourself because this is not. A,

1718
01:29:41.279 --> 01:29:44.399
<v Speaker 1>lifesaver course okay it teaches you a, few little things

1719
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:46.319
<v Speaker 1>most of which, will never use but like. It's a

1720
01:29:46.359 --> 01:29:49.039
<v Speaker 1>thing but ONE thing that i will never forget is

1721
01:29:49.039 --> 01:29:51.279
<v Speaker 1>when they made us insert a nasal fair and deeal

1722
01:29:51.399 --> 01:29:54.039
<v Speaker 1>into our own noses and then take a lap around

1723
01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:57.159
<v Speaker 1>the building to show. How this works what, This device

1724
01:29:57.319 --> 01:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>is it's a tube it's just a tube with like

1725
01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:02.359
<v Speaker 1>a oper, at one end and you are shoving it

1726
01:30:02.479 --> 01:30:05.359
<v Speaker 1>up your nose and down your nasal cavity down. To

1727
01:30:05.439 --> 01:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>your throat and this is too if somebody is they're

1728
01:30:08.680 --> 01:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>having trouble, breathing or something maybe they got like shot

1729
01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:13.399
<v Speaker 1>in the face and like they're having issues breathing and

1730
01:30:13.399 --> 01:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>getting air through their nose, of their mouth because the

1731
01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:18.279
<v Speaker 1>only two places that air, enters your body and you need,

1732
01:30:18.319 --> 01:30:21.039
<v Speaker 1>air to breathe you fucking shove of nasal fair ands

1733
01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:24.359
<v Speaker 1>you'll up their nose and you. Can breathe normally now,

1734
01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:27.920
<v Speaker 1>THAT'S being said i could see this being a breathing

1735
01:30:27.960 --> 01:30:31.439
<v Speaker 1>tube that he shoved up his nose rather than war.

1736
01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:34.479
<v Speaker 1>Across his face that also kind of makes. Sense to.

1737
01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:39.439
<v Speaker 2>ME oh okay i was actually thinking more along, the

1738
01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:44.520
<v Speaker 2>lines of so do you remember whenever you were young

1739
01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:47.079
<v Speaker 2>and you'd be picking your nose, and, somebody say damn

1740
01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>you got your fingers so far up you're gonna. Poke, your,

1741
01:30:48.880 --> 01:30:50.159
<v Speaker 2>brain Well.

1742
01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah the egyptians used to pull the brain out of

1743
01:30:52.319 --> 01:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the the deceased. With a hook they pulled it through

1744
01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the nose in. The mummification, Process.

1745
01:30:58.439 --> 01:31:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Right right but, ALSO right. There I believe and i

1746
01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:03.560
<v Speaker 2>could be just, making THIS up but I feel like,

1747
01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>i HEARD this but i believe the farther, up you

1748
01:31:06.720 --> 01:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>go you're because your your pineal gland is said to

1749
01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>be literally right here in, between the eyebrows. Just above

1750
01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:14.760
<v Speaker 2>it and so it makes me wonder if there was

1751
01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:17.159
<v Speaker 2>some kind of drip of sorts or some kind of

1752
01:31:17.239 --> 01:31:20.960
<v Speaker 2>tool that was being used TO express the dmt out of. Your,

1753
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:25.239
<v Speaker 2>PINEAL gland possibly. I don't know i DON'T.

1754
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Think OF dmt but i to, further your claim there

1755
01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>is sinuses that are underneath your, eyes right here but

1756
01:31:31.920 --> 01:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>there are also sinuses that. Go up here so, to

1757
01:31:35.079 --> 01:31:38.079
<v Speaker 1>your point they may have been trying to touch the

1758
01:31:38.119 --> 01:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>pineal gland, in some way shape or form, THROUGH this means,

1759
01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that's.

1760
01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:42.760
<v Speaker 2>THE only way, i can think unless they were just

1761
01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>trying to, get to well When were The so the

1762
01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:50.279
<v Speaker 2>mayans Were. After, the egyptians yeah we're talking like way

1763
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:53.159
<v Speaker 2>after is, When HE died but I, mean the egyptians

1764
01:31:53.159 --> 01:31:56.079
<v Speaker 2>if we're going, to get technical at least pre date

1765
01:31:56.199 --> 01:31:58.920
<v Speaker 2>TWENTY five hundred bc when the. PYRAMID was built i

1766
01:31:58.960 --> 01:32:01.680
<v Speaker 2>mean there still is A gyp, In EGYPT today, so,

1767
01:32:01.760 --> 01:32:04.600
<v Speaker 2>i mean right so it makes me wonder IF maybe they,

1768
01:32:04.840 --> 01:32:06.680
<v Speaker 2>i don't know if, they were talking or maybe they

1769
01:32:06.720 --> 01:32:10.039
<v Speaker 2>got some of that some of that information over There.

1770
01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Into the maya but it makes me wonder Because even

1771
01:32:13.159 --> 01:32:17.319
<v Speaker 2>the egyptians were they they had depictions, of you know

1772
01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Like The the third Eye and The eye of. Horace

1773
01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:21.359
<v Speaker 2>and everything if you look at The eye Of, eye

1774
01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:24.239
<v Speaker 2>of horace it is what for what identical to what

1775
01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:27.359
<v Speaker 2>the fucking pineal? Gland? Looks like bro like it's it's, really,

1776
01:32:27.479 --> 01:32:30.279
<v Speaker 2>let me yeah let. Me show You i'm gonna i'm

1777
01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:33.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna pull. Up a picture it is like fucking stunning how.

1778
01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:36.439
<v Speaker 1>Perfect It is because I've seen The eye of horace a.

1779
01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:39.079
<v Speaker 1>Bunch of time that's on A lot, of egyptian artwork

1780
01:32:39.479 --> 01:32:42.039
<v Speaker 1>and the pineal gland looks kind of like. A pine

1781
01:32:42.079 --> 01:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>cone The eye of horace looks like an eye with.

1782
01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Eyeliner On it so i'm not One, hundred percent, well,

1783
01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:47.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like.

1784
01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here we go stop? Sharing your screen? Did all

1785
01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:58.720
<v Speaker 2>right so check this shit? Out right here? Look at

1786
01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:00.560
<v Speaker 2>that that tell me? That's?

1787
01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Not?

1788
01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Similar bro oh like, a, side view right? ISN'T that

1789
01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:05.600
<v Speaker 2>crazy i saw.

1790
01:33:05.560 --> 01:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Something like a straight on. View, of it okay so

1791
01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>that does not look like.

1792
01:33:08.920 --> 01:33:12.119
<v Speaker 2>A pine, CONE i mean, i don't know maybe it

1793
01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:14.039
<v Speaker 2>DOES in three d or. Something like that but it's

1794
01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:18.600
<v Speaker 2>it's not just the it's not, just the, oh pineal

1795
01:33:18.600 --> 01:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>gland it's the, it's the whole like it's, the, pituitary

1796
01:33:22.960 --> 01:33:27.199
<v Speaker 2>gland right. It's, the whole well you, got the hypothalamis,

1797
01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:32.399
<v Speaker 2>the medulla, ambata the thalamus and the corpus colossum all

1798
01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>together creating the. Eye of horus how the fuck did?

1799
01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:35.800
<v Speaker 5>They?

1800
01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Know, THAT bro, Yeah i mean i'm.

1801
01:33:37.720 --> 01:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Not denying that but that's the. Other THING too the

1802
01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:42.279
<v Speaker 1>i of horus would be not. The pineal gland the

1803
01:33:42.279 --> 01:33:44.319
<v Speaker 1>pineal glands at the front. Of the brain the thalamus

1804
01:33:44.319 --> 01:33:47.319
<v Speaker 1>is pretty, much dead center where like the the brain

1805
01:33:47.359 --> 01:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>stem connective tissue connects to the rest. Of the brain

1806
01:33:51.359 --> 01:33:54.039
<v Speaker 1>so to say that the horus is supposed to be

1807
01:33:54.079 --> 01:33:56.399
<v Speaker 1>remnants of, The human brain i'm with you, one, Hundred.

1808
01:33:56.159 --> 01:33:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Percent right Well That's what i'm if you zoom all,

1809
01:33:58.680 --> 01:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>the way out you see, this picture here which is

1810
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>the side view, of the brain and, so holy, shit

1811
01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:07.399
<v Speaker 2>how like how could? They have known and that's the

1812
01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:09.159
<v Speaker 2>same thing with the. Yin and yang how could they.

1813
01:34:09.159 --> 01:34:11.359
<v Speaker 2>Have known that that is literally a perfect depiction. Of

1814
01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:15.239
<v Speaker 2>quantum entanglement like how, did THESE people without x rays

1815
01:34:15.399 --> 01:34:18.439
<v Speaker 2>or any kind of cat, scan or anything how did?

1816
01:34:18.479 --> 01:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>THEY know, this i mean, when somebody dies especially, in

1817
01:34:22.279 --> 01:34:24.439
<v Speaker 1>like war when they just got their, head cleaved open

1818
01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:27.279
<v Speaker 1>you can see like brain matter and you can see how.

1819
01:34:27.279 --> 01:34:30.279
<v Speaker 1>It's made up they had a very decent understanding, of

1820
01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:33.199
<v Speaker 1>human anatomy and they had like dissections that they did

1821
01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>on people for a. Good long while they didn't just

1822
01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>like discover one day by accident that you could pull

1823
01:34:37.640 --> 01:34:38.159
<v Speaker 1>the brain out.

1824
01:34:38.159 --> 01:34:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Through the, NOSE oh, yeah, i guess yeah. That, Makes

1825
01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:44.359
<v Speaker 2>sense okay, WELL even, still i mean it's still pretty

1826
01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:46.840
<v Speaker 2>damn fascinating to see. The correlation there.

1827
01:34:47.279 --> 01:34:50.199
<v Speaker 1>It, very much is very much is now, that being

1828
01:34:50.239 --> 01:34:54.079
<v Speaker 1>said was this Tube or or i'm not even gonna

1829
01:34:54.079 --> 01:34:57.439
<v Speaker 1>call it a TUBE necessarily because i don't know that it,

1830
01:34:57.520 --> 01:35:01.359
<v Speaker 1>is or isn't but this thing that is connected. To,

1831
01:35:01.399 --> 01:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>his nose again we saw other depictions of mine iconography

1832
01:35:04.399 --> 01:35:06.479
<v Speaker 1>in the video we just shared, a moment ago and

1833
01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:09.119
<v Speaker 1>even that there's a picture of, him right here there

1834
01:35:09.159 --> 01:35:11.439
<v Speaker 1>is nothing. Touching his face he was, wearing a headdress

1835
01:35:11.439 --> 01:35:14.079
<v Speaker 1>but nothing. Touching his. Face or nose same over here

1836
01:35:14.119 --> 01:35:16.720
<v Speaker 1>with this person for something to be, Touching his, nose

1837
01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and again nothing here was. Carved, by accident hell there's even,

1838
01:35:19.960 --> 01:35:22.359
<v Speaker 1>indentations right here and it gets smaller as it gets.

1839
01:35:22.359 --> 01:35:25.319
<v Speaker 1>TO the nose i could understand why some people would

1840
01:35:25.319 --> 01:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>think that this was a breathing apparatus or a breathing tube,

1841
01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:29.399
<v Speaker 1>in some way.

1842
01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:31.800
<v Speaker 2>She or form hold on, here a second because if you,

1843
01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:35.439
<v Speaker 2>look really close so there's the outline, of his face

1844
01:35:35.479 --> 01:35:38.359
<v Speaker 2>and then there seems to be another line directly above

1845
01:35:38.359 --> 01:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>it is is that the thing that looks like it's going?

1846
01:35:41.960 --> 01:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Into his nose could that just be something that's set

1847
01:35:44.119 --> 01:35:46.600
<v Speaker 2>upon his nose and running across his, forehead like that

1848
01:35:46.640 --> 01:35:46.960
<v Speaker 2>You see?

1849
01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:50.039
<v Speaker 1>What i'm saying or could this be a face shield that.

1850
01:35:50.079 --> 01:35:52.199
<v Speaker 1>He was wearing but they wanted to make sure that

1851
01:35:52.279 --> 01:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>in the picture you could still. See his, face oh.

1852
01:35:55.520 --> 01:36:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Man, whoa, hold on yeah let me keep that keep.

1853
01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>That. Right there yeah, and, then again dude his hands

1854
01:36:04.960 --> 01:36:07.720
<v Speaker 1>are in a, very strange position not like he's trying

1855
01:36:07.760 --> 01:36:10.399
<v Speaker 1>to grab something or. Anything like, that if anything this

1856
01:36:10.600 --> 01:36:14.039
<v Speaker 1>hand is holding a knob. Of some type, this tree is,

1857
01:36:14.359 --> 01:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>if it, is in fact the tree of life is

1858
01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:19.479
<v Speaker 1>smooth on all of the sides except for this knock

1859
01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:23.039
<v Speaker 1>where he's holding something and that notch is connected to

1860
01:36:23.079 --> 01:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever the hell. This, thing IS like it's i understand

1861
01:36:26.039 --> 01:36:29.399
<v Speaker 1>why they would look at this and see something of

1862
01:36:29.479 --> 01:36:32.119
<v Speaker 1>a he's controlling it or these are like a control

1863
01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:34.880
<v Speaker 1>panel or a steering mechanism or something like that for

1864
01:36:35.239 --> 01:36:36.840
<v Speaker 1>whatever the. Hell, he's writing.

1865
01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it almost Reminds Me of danny gohler talking about

1866
01:36:40.159 --> 01:36:42.399
<v Speaker 2>like how whenever he GOES into the dmt realm that

1867
01:36:42.439 --> 01:36:47.119
<v Speaker 2>there's like fucking panels and like like screens and things

1868
01:36:47.159 --> 01:36:49.960
<v Speaker 2>that THERE are like i don't know, what he says

1869
01:36:50.119 --> 01:36:53.079
<v Speaker 2>that there are essentially like controllers of this matrix and

1870
01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>they're all controlling it like via these screens and. REALLY

1871
01:36:56.920 --> 01:36:59.199
<v Speaker 2>strange shit. I don't, Know i mean i'm just trying

1872
01:36:59.199 --> 01:37:01.279
<v Speaker 2>to think, outside THE box but i have no idea

1873
01:37:01.319 --> 01:37:03.439
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck to make, of this really because? What

1874
01:37:03.720 --> 01:37:06.199
<v Speaker 2>is that what is all this? Shit around him what

1875
01:37:06.279 --> 01:37:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Is that brow.

1876
01:37:06.840 --> 01:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing you have to think outside the box

1877
01:37:08.920 --> 01:37:12.279
<v Speaker 1>even try to even educationally come up with a theory,

1878
01:37:12.319 --> 01:37:15.720
<v Speaker 1>on this, one because again there's no other Example of

1879
01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>a mayan depiction showing.

1880
01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:22.199
<v Speaker 2>Anything LIKE this somebody i guarantee you this is not

1881
01:37:22.359 --> 01:37:24.720
<v Speaker 2>meant to. Be taken literal it has, to be symbolic

1882
01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:27.600
<v Speaker 2>some kind of code meant to be meant to be

1883
01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:28.520
<v Speaker 2>deciphered in some.

1884
01:37:28.680 --> 01:37:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Kind OF way and i don't necessarily. Disagree with you

1885
01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and that is what this article. Is talking about some

1886
01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:36.439
<v Speaker 1>people take it as a code to mean that he

1887
01:37:36.560 --> 01:37:40.039
<v Speaker 1>is climbing the tree of life up to the heavens

1888
01:37:40.079 --> 01:37:44.199
<v Speaker 1>to be reborn as. His deified self some take this

1889
01:37:44.239 --> 01:37:48.640
<v Speaker 1>to be a code of him in a rocket ship flying.

1890
01:37:48.800 --> 01:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Into outer space and maybe that's where he got the

1891
01:37:51.600 --> 01:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>knowledge and information to have all these crazy building projects

1892
01:37:54.359 --> 01:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>take place. And go successfully maybe that's where he got

1893
01:37:57.319 --> 01:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the knowledge to be able to win every single military

1894
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>engagement that he and his tribe ever got. In contact

1895
01:38:02.640 --> 01:38:06.720
<v Speaker 1>with maybe, this is him, like you said symbolically and

1896
01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:11.279
<v Speaker 1>code specifying talking about him possibly writing, a time machine

1897
01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:13.399
<v Speaker 1>and maybe that's why he died at the, age of

1898
01:38:13.479 --> 01:38:16.039
<v Speaker 1>eighty but his body was as a, forty year old

1899
01:38:16.359 --> 01:38:19.039
<v Speaker 1>because things go differently when we're talking about the. Time.

1900
01:38:19.079 --> 01:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Space continuum yeah.

1901
01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:23.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, what's interesting too is the border, on the

1902
01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:27.039
<v Speaker 2>outside like it seems to be like little depictions of

1903
01:38:27.079 --> 01:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>something that they're almost like LITTLE pictures of i wonder what.

1904
01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:32.640
<v Speaker 2>THAT could, be i mean could it just be like

1905
01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:36.600
<v Speaker 2>protective sigils of swords or. Something like that.

1906
01:38:37.159 --> 01:38:39.479
<v Speaker 1>So basically they have broken it down to say that

1907
01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>all of this along the sarcophagus is a timeline. Of

1908
01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>his rule.

1909
01:38:43.840 --> 01:38:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's cool.

1910
01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:49.079
<v Speaker 1>And they show like these are specific and important events

1911
01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>that took place during his time. As a Rule and if,

1912
01:38:51.640 --> 01:38:53.920
<v Speaker 1>i'm not mistaken they even talk about what year each

1913
01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:57.279
<v Speaker 1>of those things did and. Did not happen so this

1914
01:38:57.479 --> 01:38:59.199
<v Speaker 1>was the thing that they Said in The. Temple of

1915
01:38:59.239 --> 01:39:02.880
<v Speaker 1>inscription this is The one of this is A part of,

1916
01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:07.159
<v Speaker 1>i should say the longest Recorded timeline of mayan, history,

1917
01:39:07.199 --> 01:39:12.079
<v Speaker 1>to date well, the, second longest right the other One, is, at, Chichenitza.

1918
01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Right right so this so the what appears to be

1919
01:39:14.520 --> 01:39:16.760
<v Speaker 2>coming out, of his stomach that's that's supposed to be

1920
01:39:16.840 --> 01:39:20.720
<v Speaker 2>like the base. Of the tree this is allegedly supposed

1921
01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:23.399
<v Speaker 2>to be the trunk, of, the tree right and so he, would,

1922
01:39:25.760 --> 01:39:28.079
<v Speaker 2>essentially well no he's supposed to be midway up the,

1923
01:39:28.119 --> 01:39:29.680
<v Speaker 2>tree right now and at the bottom this is in.

1924
01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:32.039
<v Speaker 2>The entire picture but down here they're supposed to, be

1925
01:39:32.079 --> 01:39:34.640
<v Speaker 2>an urn which is supposed to represent The.

1926
01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:41.039
<v Speaker 1>Underworld of. Chibalba oh whoa this is the record to

1927
01:39:41.119 --> 01:39:45.319
<v Speaker 1>the archaeologist and. The educated folk they're saying that this

1928
01:39:45.479 --> 01:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>image is supposed to be him, leaving the underworld climbing

1929
01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the tree of life and ascending To, the sky god

1930
01:39:51.720 --> 01:39:53.760
<v Speaker 1>which is being depicted by this bird in the. Sky

1931
01:39:53.920 --> 01:39:57.159
<v Speaker 1>over here and that's him ascending from the underworld to

1932
01:39:57.239 --> 01:40:01.159
<v Speaker 1>his god. To, your status meanwhile everybody that we've read

1933
01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:03.439
<v Speaker 1>from says that this puts him at the center, of

1934
01:40:03.479 --> 01:40:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the cosmos right the center of the cosmos on whatever

1935
01:40:08.800 --> 01:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the hell this is. Supposed to be there is fire

1936
01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>in flames at the. Bottom of it he is operating.

1937
01:40:14.920 --> 01:40:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Something of controls he's got something connected, to his nose

1938
01:40:18.399 --> 01:40:20.720
<v Speaker 1>he's got foot pedals that his feet are, operating as

1939
01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:23.720
<v Speaker 1>well and He's going to obviously what they saw is

1940
01:40:23.760 --> 01:40:27.199
<v Speaker 1>the realm of the gods. Or the sky so this

1941
01:40:27.239 --> 01:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>is where the whole rocket. Conversation comes in but so

1942
01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>that's sure that this was.

1943
01:40:31.720 --> 01:40:33.960
<v Speaker 2>A time machine that's supposed to be ketsiquada at.

1944
01:40:33.960 --> 01:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>The, top there uh they show. That it, is that's

1945
01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>yeah being represented. As a ketzel so this is, The

1946
01:40:40.800 --> 01:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Feather serpent, sky god.

1947
01:40:42.439 --> 01:40:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah interesting, man all right. Good cult members if you

1948
01:40:46.920 --> 01:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>want to be able to see depictions like this and

1949
01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:51.520
<v Speaker 2>try and figure it, OUT for, yourself i mean you

1950
01:40:51.560 --> 01:40:53.920
<v Speaker 2>got to Come. Over to patreon patreon is the. Place

1951
01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>to go it's five. Dollars a month that's if you

1952
01:40:56.239 --> 01:40:58.439
<v Speaker 2>don't really care to be Joining us every tuesday night for.

1953
01:40:58.479 --> 01:41:00.640
<v Speaker 2>The live show but if you go to patreon Dot

1954
01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:02.960
<v Speaker 2>com Slash cult of conspiracy podcast you can join for

1955
01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:04.920
<v Speaker 2>five dollars A month and i have access to every

1956
01:41:05.119 --> 01:41:08.399
<v Speaker 2>single episode in all of the video stuff that. We

1957
01:41:08.439 --> 01:41:11.199
<v Speaker 2>put up we have tried. Going, to YouTube yeah there

1958
01:41:11.199 --> 01:41:12.800
<v Speaker 2>are some people that are still trying to make a

1959
01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:14.880
<v Speaker 2>living and still trying to put their stuff. Up on

1960
01:41:14.920 --> 01:41:18.000
<v Speaker 2>YouTube we're not going. To censor ourselves we don't. Believe

1961
01:41:18.039 --> 01:41:21.800
<v Speaker 2>in that we believe that it's it's not genuine to

1962
01:41:21.840 --> 01:41:24.479
<v Speaker 2>who we are if we need, to censor. Ourselves you

1963
01:41:24.520 --> 01:41:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Know and so patreon allows our personalities and are exact

1964
01:41:28.039 --> 01:41:30.760
<v Speaker 2>like how we would answer something and look at something

1965
01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:33.079
<v Speaker 2>without having. A self censor so if you want to

1966
01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:35.039
<v Speaker 2>be a, part of that then patreon Dot com Slash

1967
01:41:35.079 --> 01:41:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Cult of conspiracy podcasts sign up for the. Five, dollars

1968
01:41:37.079 --> 01:41:37.680
<v Speaker 2>tier dude come.

1969
01:41:37.760 --> 01:41:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Check, it, out indeed, indeed, all right now let's continue

1970
01:41:41.720 --> 01:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>With The article the tombstone The cover because sarcophaga is

1971
01:41:44.720 --> 01:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>one of the most important record. Of the, discovery for

1972
01:41:48.359 --> 01:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>decades it has been the subject of debate between experts

1973
01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:53.439
<v Speaker 1>and amateurs who have more than one. Theory about it

1974
01:41:53.960 --> 01:41:56.520
<v Speaker 1>taking into account what is known about the mind culture

1975
01:41:56.560 --> 01:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and the studies that experts have done, over the years

1976
01:41:58.720 --> 01:42:03.119
<v Speaker 1>the official Interpretation of the tombstone. Is as follows pacall

1977
01:42:03.359 --> 01:42:05.520
<v Speaker 1>is seated in the middle as a young man in

1978
01:42:05.560 --> 01:42:09.079
<v Speaker 1>the center. Of the universe below Him is sakhbakh na

1979
01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:14.039
<v Speaker 1>for the or the first centipede, of white bones Which

1980
01:42:14.319 --> 01:42:19.840
<v Speaker 1>represents the Mayan. Underworld Of chibalba from pakau's body emerges

1981
01:42:19.880 --> 01:42:24.079
<v Speaker 1>a tree with a two, headed serpent intersecting dividing the

1982
01:42:24.119 --> 01:42:28.720
<v Speaker 1>cosmos into. Its four regions, around the tree it's possible

1983
01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>to see the faces of different deities that accompany him

1984
01:42:31.880 --> 01:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>on his journey, through the cosmos and right at the top,

1985
01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:39.119
<v Speaker 1>of the Tree the god ittsamna can be Seen. Represented as,

1986
01:42:39.359 --> 01:42:44.479
<v Speaker 1>quetzal right now this is a colorized version of what this.

1987
01:42:44.560 --> 01:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Picture would be so you, see this. Tree it's separate

1988
01:42:47.640 --> 01:42:49.720
<v Speaker 1>at the top of these two serpent heads and all these.

1989
01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Things around him these, are other gods other deities and.

1990
01:42:52.760 --> 01:42:58.479
<v Speaker 1>All the, things so again. These are flames nothing about

1991
01:42:58.560 --> 01:43:02.479
<v Speaker 1>flames Are near the tree of life has. Ever been found, but.

1992
01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:05.880
<v Speaker 2>All right, well it's interesting it's go back up. On

1993
01:43:05.920 --> 01:43:09.159
<v Speaker 2>the picture it's interesting that he is depicted as being

1994
01:43:09.239 --> 01:43:13.239
<v Speaker 2>red and, everything that, is you know a surface, level

1995
01:43:13.279 --> 01:43:15.319
<v Speaker 2>with him and below it seems to. ALL be, RED

1996
01:43:15.359 --> 01:43:16.720
<v Speaker 2>i mean i know that this is kind of like a.

1997
01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Reimagining or whatever this, wasn't the whatever but it, makes me,

1998
01:43:20.359 --> 01:43:25.119
<v Speaker 2>wonder you know just Colors are they, they hold symbolism,

1999
01:43:25.479 --> 01:43:30.079
<v Speaker 2>and you, know traditionally red Especially, everyone like india red

2000
01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:33.119
<v Speaker 2>and the root is always associated. With each other so

2001
01:43:33.159 --> 01:43:35.479
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting that you have the base of the tree

2002
01:43:35.479 --> 01:43:37.279
<v Speaker 2>that is coming, out of him as, it said before

2003
01:43:37.800 --> 01:43:40.039
<v Speaker 2>and so he's at the. Base of it he would,

2004
01:43:40.039 --> 01:43:42.960
<v Speaker 2>be the, roots you know so that maybe that's. Why

2005
01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:44.079
<v Speaker 2>he's red but.

2006
01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:46.760
<v Speaker 1>To your point this is an artist rendition thereof because

2007
01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:50.800
<v Speaker 1>he's supposed to be wearing. A, jade skirt, Yeah, YOU'RE

2008
01:43:50.880 --> 01:43:53.319
<v Speaker 1>right so i mean you could tell that some of

2009
01:43:53.359 --> 01:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>this was kind of more of the interpretation there of

2010
01:43:55.640 --> 01:44:00.359
<v Speaker 1>like somebody took. BLUE you know i mean it's it's an,

2011
01:44:00.439 --> 01:44:02.760
<v Speaker 1>artist rendition thereof and it's not, A bad rendition.

2012
01:44:02.800 --> 01:44:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I should add i feel like the color really brings it. More,

2013
01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:08.960
<v Speaker 2>into perspective actually it.

2014
01:44:08.920 --> 01:44:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Shows the, depths of it because, looking at this it's

2015
01:44:11.399 --> 01:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of like looking at a black and white tat

2016
01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:15.800
<v Speaker 1>versus a. Colored in tat it's it's going to give

2017
01:44:15.800 --> 01:44:18.079
<v Speaker 1>you two different perspectives as to what is supposed. To

2018
01:44:18.119 --> 01:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>be what and unless you know what you're looking for

2019
01:44:20.159 --> 01:44:22.920
<v Speaker 1>looking at there's a lot of this that. You're, gonna miss.

2020
01:44:22.920 --> 01:44:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the coloring adds it adds. DIMENSION to IT i think.

2021
01:44:26.319 --> 01:44:28.119
<v Speaker 1>I, Think SO too but i mean even still a

2022
01:44:28.119 --> 01:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of, this is GOLD and like i don't know

2023
01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:31.840
<v Speaker 1>if the tree was supposed. TO be gold i Don't

2024
01:44:31.880 --> 01:44:34.840
<v Speaker 1>know if chibalba was supposed to be. Some other color,

2025
01:44:34.880 --> 01:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>it's you know. It's an artist it's like a water.

2026
01:44:36.680 --> 01:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Color rendition, thereof but anyway, continuing, it says however there

2027
01:44:41.319 --> 01:44:44.399
<v Speaker 1>is another theory about pacall is actually sitting in what

2028
01:44:44.439 --> 01:44:46.600
<v Speaker 1>appears to be, a space ship and that his hands

2029
01:44:46.600 --> 01:44:49.319
<v Speaker 1>are on. The control, board in addition next, to his

2030
01:44:49.439 --> 01:44:52.680
<v Speaker 1>nose it is possible to see an artifact that is

2031
01:44:52.720 --> 01:44:55.960
<v Speaker 1>probably a microphone or something that helps him. BREATHE in

2032
01:44:56.039 --> 01:44:58.359
<v Speaker 1>space i didn't even see that by his nose and

2033
01:44:58.399 --> 01:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>think that that. Was a, microphone but okay some sort.

2034
01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Of speaking apparatus who knows beneath it what would be

2035
01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the head of the centipede is actually a turbine from

2036
01:45:08.279 --> 01:45:11.680
<v Speaker 1>which fire comes out, as it advances and which has the,

2037
01:45:11.760 --> 01:45:16.199
<v Speaker 1>cosmos around it precisely because it is. Traveling through space

2038
01:45:16.800 --> 01:45:19.039
<v Speaker 1>although it is a, rather unusual theory there is not

2039
01:45:19.199 --> 01:45:22.079
<v Speaker 1>enough evidence to prove it correct, or disprove it but

2040
01:45:22.119 --> 01:45:25.199
<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of the scientific community has dismissed it.

2041
01:45:25.279 --> 01:45:28.720
<v Speaker 1>As far fetched on, the other hand it must not,

2042
01:45:28.800 --> 01:45:31.439
<v Speaker 1>be forgotten That according, to mia mythology the gods came

2043
01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>down from the heavens and taught, them, about, mathematics architecture.

2044
01:45:34.640 --> 01:45:39.079
<v Speaker 1>Agriculture and technology have they taught man to build machines

2045
01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to fly and perhaps? TRAVEL through, SPACE i mean i don't.

2046
01:45:46.039 --> 01:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>KNOW about that i don't know, about it either but

2047
01:45:48.920 --> 01:45:51.640
<v Speaker 1>it is an interesting. Thought, to say now it's.

2048
01:45:51.560 --> 01:45:54.000
<v Speaker 2>An interesting literal way. OF taking it i don't think

2049
01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:56.600
<v Speaker 2>that any of it was meant to, BE literal, personally i.

2050
01:45:56.600 --> 01:45:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Mean who KNOWS we, Like, i said pacaul we know

2051
01:45:59.560 --> 01:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>was a real do, That died right he, Walked the

2052
01:46:01.960 --> 01:46:06.800
<v Speaker 1>earth he led his people, for you know upwards of fifty.

2053
01:46:06.960 --> 01:46:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Some odd years he started at the age of twelve

2054
01:46:08.920 --> 01:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and died at the. Age of eighty so like we

2055
01:46:10.880 --> 01:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>know that he was in action for a. Good, long

2056
01:46:12.680 --> 01:46:16.359
<v Speaker 1>while now was this all supposed to just be imaging

2057
01:46:16.720 --> 01:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and was just supposed to be some artistic liberties that

2058
01:46:20.039 --> 01:46:24.479
<v Speaker 1>were taken to show his grandiose status as such an amazing.

2059
01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:28.199
<v Speaker 1>And divine, Leader very possibly but then we also get.

2060
01:46:28.199 --> 01:46:31.159
<v Speaker 1>The rocket conversation and now We, go to pall the

2061
01:46:31.239 --> 01:46:35.319
<v Speaker 1>time traveler who stayed to Live. Among, the mayans now

2062
01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>there is another offbeat theory That says that pecall might

2063
01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:40.680
<v Speaker 1>have been a time traveler who stayed to Live. Among

2064
01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the maya how is? This theory supported the answer lies

2065
01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>in the Remains of. The mayan governor according to the

2066
01:46:46.520 --> 01:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>studies that had been made of his remains and descriptions,

2067
01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:52.399
<v Speaker 1>Written in stone pacall was a robust man measuring one,

2068
01:46:52.399 --> 01:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>point seven meters an image that does not entirely Coincide.

2069
01:46:55.920 --> 01:46:59.079
<v Speaker 1>With the, mayans In addition the mayans used to adorn

2070
01:46:59.079 --> 01:47:02.119
<v Speaker 1>their teeth with pressure stones and deform their skulls from

2071
01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:05.479
<v Speaker 1>babies to give them more of, an elongated appearance customs that,

2072
01:47:05.520 --> 01:47:09.199
<v Speaker 1>should be present. Especially In royalty but pacall does not

2073
01:47:09.279 --> 01:47:12.520
<v Speaker 1>have any. Of these characteristics and we've talked about that quite. A,

2074
01:47:12.520 --> 01:47:15.439
<v Speaker 1>few times right they would bind their heads as babies

2075
01:47:15.439 --> 01:47:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to give them, that elongated skull because they believe that

2076
01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>that's how. The, gods looked pacall who was supposed to

2077
01:47:20.840 --> 01:47:24.880
<v Speaker 1>be the intermediary between gods and man as His, time

2078
01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:29.760
<v Speaker 1>as lord didn't have an elongated. Skull at all if

2079
01:47:29.840 --> 01:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the body in the sarcophagus Was, IN fact pacall i don't.

2080
01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Know that anyway another test is the age at which

2081
01:47:38.680 --> 01:47:41.079
<v Speaker 1>he is supposed. To have died according, To the Numbers

2082
01:47:41.119 --> 01:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>pacall the great died at about the, age of eighty

2083
01:47:44.039 --> 01:47:46.520
<v Speaker 1>but his remains are that of a man. In, his

2084
01:47:46.640 --> 01:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>forties however it is Known that the mayans changed some

2085
01:47:50.079 --> 01:47:54.119
<v Speaker 1>dates to coincide with astronomical or, god related events and

2086
01:47:54.159 --> 01:47:57.079
<v Speaker 1>this may have. Been The case was pacall a time

2087
01:47:57.159 --> 01:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>traveler who used his technology To return to paling to

2088
01:48:00.680 --> 01:48:03.359
<v Speaker 1>ensure the survival? Of his people you have, the last?

2089
01:48:03.359 --> 01:48:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Word, ALL right WELL i actually i do, have AN

2090
01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:10.560
<v Speaker 2>opinion but i want to save it. UNTIL the end

2091
01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:13.319
<v Speaker 2>i want to gather in more information as we go if,

2092
01:48:13.319 --> 01:48:17.159
<v Speaker 2>there IS more because I have a i have a

2093
01:48:17.159 --> 01:48:19.079
<v Speaker 2>pretty solid idea about what we could be looking.

2094
01:48:19.119 --> 01:48:23.319
<v Speaker 1>At, right here, okay fair enough We, do have wait

2095
01:48:23.319 --> 01:48:24.760
<v Speaker 1>do we already? Read, this article yeah we.

2096
01:48:24.800 --> 01:48:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Saw that one unless it's just, the same pictures.

2097
01:48:29.479 --> 01:48:31.920
<v Speaker 1>It's the same, pictures in iconography because there's only so.

2098
01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Much of, him, but yeah okay we could. Jump ahead

2099
01:48:34.960 --> 01:48:38.840
<v Speaker 1>anyway let's see the temple, of the. Inscriptions the discovery

2100
01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:43.239
<v Speaker 1>we talked about, all that already. The unofficial interpretations this

2101
01:48:43.279 --> 01:48:45.319
<v Speaker 1>is actually THE reason why i pulled. Up this. Article

2102
01:48:46.039 --> 01:48:49.079
<v Speaker 1>so again they said that it's something like. A space

2103
01:48:49.119 --> 01:48:51.359
<v Speaker 1>ship in addition to his nose that is possible to

2104
01:48:51.359 --> 01:48:53.399
<v Speaker 1>see an artifact that is probably a microphone or something

2105
01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:56.399
<v Speaker 1>helps him. Breathe in, space beneath it what would be

2106
01:48:56.479 --> 01:48:58.960
<v Speaker 1>the head of the centipede is, actually a turban although

2107
01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:01.399
<v Speaker 1>it is Rather an unusual there is not enough, as

2108
01:49:01.560 --> 01:49:04.000
<v Speaker 1>oh wow this is a, completely different article but it's

2109
01:49:04.079 --> 01:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>using the. Exact same terminology on, the other hand it

2110
01:49:06.960 --> 01:49:09.279
<v Speaker 1>must not be forgotten that the gods came down from

2111
01:49:09.279 --> 01:49:10.079
<v Speaker 1>the heavens and taught.

2112
01:49:10.119 --> 01:49:10.239
<v Speaker 5>Them.

2113
01:49:10.279 --> 01:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>About, this wow okay so this is another article that

2114
01:49:13.800 --> 01:49:18.840
<v Speaker 1>was literally one. To. One comparison there now it's said

2115
01:49:18.920 --> 01:49:23.560
<v Speaker 1>here that it's not. An, alien, astronaut actually no before

2116
01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>we get to the hater ade section, OF the story

2117
01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>i do want to hear your theory. At this time

2118
01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:29.399
<v Speaker 1>oh you?

2119
01:49:29.479 --> 01:49:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Ready?

2120
01:49:29.760 --> 01:49:32.880
<v Speaker 1>For this okay before, you go there keep in mind

2121
01:49:33.279 --> 01:49:35.840
<v Speaker 1>these people knew NOTHINGS of the vedicx or the chakras

2122
01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:37.319
<v Speaker 1>or chi or any. Of these.

2123
01:49:37.319 --> 01:49:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Things i'm, aware all right stop. Sharing the screen i'm

2124
01:49:40.199 --> 01:49:47.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna pull, something at you and, here we. GO all

2125
01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:52.319
<v Speaker 2>right i firmly believe that what is being depicted right

2126
01:49:52.359 --> 01:49:58.159
<v Speaker 2>here is the use of entheogenics, aka sylus psychedelics And

2127
01:49:58.319 --> 01:50:01.199
<v Speaker 2>in the maya it was prof only, used a lot,

2128
01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:04.560
<v Speaker 2>right most specifically you want to guess what the what

2129
01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:10.399
<v Speaker 2>the most specific uh psychedelic they were using right?

2130
01:50:10.439 --> 01:50:12.520
<v Speaker 1>OFF the rip i, Would GUESS peyote but i don't

2131
01:50:12.680 --> 01:50:13.960
<v Speaker 1>know that, for a fact because that's more of. A

2132
01:50:13.960 --> 01:50:15.199
<v Speaker 1>desert thing they got.

2133
01:50:15.039 --> 01:50:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Down, With, some payoti yeah they got. Down some payoti

2134
01:50:17.039 --> 01:50:20.119
<v Speaker 2>they got down with payoti and tobacco and fermented drinks

2135
01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:24.159
<v Speaker 2>and mushrooms, and water, lilies morning glories all designed to.

2136
01:50:24.479 --> 01:50:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Induce something right but.

2137
01:50:26.479 --> 01:50:28.359
<v Speaker 1>At, the same time a lot OF these d mt

2138
01:50:28.560 --> 01:50:30.640
<v Speaker 1>retreats happen in this region.

2139
01:50:30.640 --> 01:50:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Of the, world say less we come to the buffo

2140
01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:40.960
<v Speaker 2>toad where there is secreted psychedelic venom that comes off.

2141
01:50:40.960 --> 01:50:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Of their back and this Was the most? Where? Was

2142
01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:49.079
<v Speaker 2>IT uh did i? Pass it up already history of the,

2143
01:50:49.079 --> 01:50:51.199
<v Speaker 2>ancient antheenogenic use so it says one of the more

2144
01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:54.880
<v Speaker 2>unusual entheogens employed by the mile was derived from the

2145
01:50:55.000 --> 01:51:00.479
<v Speaker 2>skin and more specific more especially the parr parotid glands of.

2146
01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:04.920
<v Speaker 2>The Cane toad the rinella marina formerly known as, the

2147
01:51:04.960 --> 01:51:08.880
<v Speaker 2>bufo marinus a sacred figure throughout The history. Of mesoamerican

2148
01:51:08.920 --> 01:51:11.920
<v Speaker 2>culture the poison present in the skin of the r

2149
01:51:12.039 --> 01:51:15.079
<v Speaker 2>marina or, the buffo toad contains a number of buffo

2150
01:51:15.199 --> 01:51:17.760
<v Speaker 2>toxins that can prove fatal if the if the toxic

2151
01:51:17.960 --> 01:51:21.359
<v Speaker 2>secretion is prepared improperly or. Consumed in excess the goal

2152
01:51:21.399 --> 01:51:25.279
<v Speaker 2>of such consumption of cane toad venom was generally communication with,

2153
01:51:25.359 --> 01:51:28.600
<v Speaker 2>the spirit world although recreational use may. Have also occurred

2154
01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:31.840
<v Speaker 2>the primary method for inducing a psychedelic event was through

2155
01:51:31.880 --> 01:51:35.520
<v Speaker 2>the consumption. Of psychoactive plants some of the psychoactive components

2156
01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:40.560
<v Speaker 2>of the plants were narcotic anaglyss AND a anaglyss i don't,

2157
01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:49.520
<v Speaker 2>know that word analgelescig, fuck, me, anyways, analgesics, psilocybin PSILOCYBIN mescaline,

2158
01:51:49.640 --> 01:51:52.880
<v Speaker 2>d mt. Mussomol and others the main goals for the

2159
01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:56.359
<v Speaker 2>usage of these plants were, for spiritual, healing spirit, interaction

2160
01:51:56.560 --> 01:52:01.479
<v Speaker 2>ancestral communication, enlightenment and wisdom and. Really religious ceremonies the

2161
01:52:01.560 --> 01:52:05.000
<v Speaker 2>effects of psychedelic plants during religious rituals is believed to

2162
01:52:05.039 --> 01:52:07.399
<v Speaker 2>have had an impact on the development and, creation of,

2163
01:52:07.439 --> 01:52:11.960
<v Speaker 2>figures sacred, images mythological creatures. And spiritual, figures at present

2164
01:52:12.079 --> 01:52:14.800
<v Speaker 2>most of the most of the evidence Comes from ancient

2165
01:52:14.840 --> 01:52:18.840
<v Speaker 2>maya art and rare examples of residue of substances recovered.

2166
01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:23.520
<v Speaker 2>From CERAMIC containers so i personally Believe that cause i'm, not.

2167
01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Gonna lie bro whenever you showed, ME that picture, i

2168
01:52:26.439 --> 01:52:29.239
<v Speaker 2>was like that is. A fucking trip like somebody was

2169
01:52:29.319 --> 01:52:32.319
<v Speaker 2>tripping when they when they pictured that fucking carving. In

2170
01:52:32.359 --> 01:52:35.079
<v Speaker 2>their mind so it maybe think if.

2171
01:52:34.920 --> 01:52:37.760
<v Speaker 1>The art work looks like they have like some crazy

2172
01:52:37.800 --> 01:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>psychedelic things going, On with it i'll give, you, that.

2173
01:52:39.920 --> 01:52:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Too right right, and you know if you're going to be,

2174
01:52:43.439 --> 01:52:47.760
<v Speaker 2>COMMUNICATING with, GODS i mean. I don't know i've personally

2175
01:52:47.840 --> 01:52:50.520
<v Speaker 2>felt that if you're going to be communicating with gods

2176
01:52:50.560 --> 01:52:53.079
<v Speaker 2>or higher, deities or anything just just from, my own, personal,

2177
01:52:53.359 --> 01:52:56.560
<v Speaker 2>YOU know experience i believe that, The easiest way i'm

2178
01:52:56.560 --> 01:52:58.399
<v Speaker 2>not saying, the only way but the easiest way to

2179
01:52:58.399 --> 01:53:01.520
<v Speaker 2>be able to have direct contact and to be able

2180
01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to perceive them would be through the. Use of psychedelics

2181
01:53:04.880 --> 01:53:08.760
<v Speaker 2>so if we're talking about how he is blasting off

2182
01:53:09.079 --> 01:53:13.399
<v Speaker 2>into becoming the center, of the universe, and you Know

2183
01:53:13.399 --> 01:53:17.119
<v Speaker 2>you got ketselquaddle up there guiding him in some, KIND

2184
01:53:17.159 --> 01:53:19.840
<v Speaker 2>of WAY i mean i think that it was more

2185
01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:22.600
<v Speaker 2>of an allegorical blast off, than anything else especially If. You're.

2186
01:53:22.600 --> 01:53:25.920
<v Speaker 2>On buffo bro that's FUCKING. That's straight, dmt you know

2187
01:53:26.079 --> 01:53:28.520
<v Speaker 2>like you want to talk about, a blast off that's

2188
01:53:28.600 --> 01:53:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the blast off. YOU'RE looking for i think.

2189
01:53:31.079 --> 01:53:33.039
<v Speaker 1>It's very possible i'm.

2190
01:53:33.039 --> 01:53:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Not saying that i'm. Not guaranteeing that that's just. My

2191
01:53:35.159 --> 01:53:37.359
<v Speaker 2>best guess nobody.

2192
01:53:36.960 --> 01:53:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Can guarantee, anything. With this bro i'm not even trying

2193
01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to dispel. Or disprove, anything you're saying to be, honest

2194
01:53:42.279 --> 01:53:45.600
<v Speaker 1>with you because it's as equally valid as the story

2195
01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:48.239
<v Speaker 1>that it's Him climbing The. Tree of life it's equally

2196
01:53:48.239 --> 01:53:50.520
<v Speaker 1>as valid as him riding, a rocket ship and it's

2197
01:53:50.560 --> 01:53:53.439
<v Speaker 1>equally as valid as him going through. A time machine

2198
01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:55.960
<v Speaker 1>this imagery is something that has not been seen in

2199
01:53:56.079 --> 01:53:58.800
<v Speaker 1>any other type of imagery, from, the minds.

2200
01:53:58.560 --> 01:54:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Which, to be fair if YOU if, You're i mean

2201
01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:03.520
<v Speaker 2>i've never tried, the buffo too but they say that

2202
01:54:03.520 --> 01:54:05.399
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the ways that you can get access

2203
01:54:05.439 --> 01:54:08.439
<v Speaker 2>TO like the. Dmt and stuff but whenever, you're on

2204
01:54:08.520 --> 01:54:11.159
<v Speaker 2>that you feel like you're probably accessing, all of that

2205
01:54:11.800 --> 01:54:13.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, What, I'M saying like i feel like you

2206
01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:16.239
<v Speaker 2>probably feel. Like you're you you have died and you

2207
01:54:16.319 --> 01:54:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Came back right like my WHOLE, EXPERIENCE with dmt I

2208
01:54:19.039 --> 01:54:21.920
<v Speaker 2>felt like. I fucking died i thought that everything died and?

2209
01:54:22.199 --> 01:54:25.880
<v Speaker 2>So was that is that how the ancients looked at being?

2210
01:54:26.359 --> 01:54:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Like at rebirth possibly.

2211
01:54:29.039 --> 01:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Possibly THE only issue i have with a lot of

2212
01:54:33.600 --> 01:54:37.239
<v Speaker 1>the theories that. Are being proposed why does it look

2213
01:54:37.359 --> 01:54:41.159
<v Speaker 1>like he the flames underneath the tree make no? Sense?

2214
01:54:41.720 --> 01:54:46.640
<v Speaker 1>At all right his hands like he's operating something for

2215
01:54:46.800 --> 01:54:49.319
<v Speaker 1>us we live in a modern day where like driving,

2216
01:54:49.399 --> 01:54:53.079
<v Speaker 1>a standard vehicle right like a, manual drive car you

2217
01:54:53.159 --> 01:54:54.960
<v Speaker 1>understand that year's a gear shift and you have to

2218
01:54:55.000 --> 01:54:57.880
<v Speaker 1>have certain pedals and. All these things somebody In the

2219
01:54:58.039 --> 01:55:01.319
<v Speaker 1>ancient mayan world would have never or even seen, something

2220
01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:03.479
<v Speaker 1>like this would have never dreamed of, something like that

2221
01:55:03.640 --> 01:55:06.399
<v Speaker 1>never would have imagined. Something like that so for them

2222
01:55:06.439 --> 01:55:09.279
<v Speaker 1>to have him imaged in such a way to where

2223
01:55:09.319 --> 01:55:11.680
<v Speaker 1>that's obviously what we can see his hands doing and.

2224
01:55:11.720 --> 01:55:14.760
<v Speaker 1>His feet doing where did they? Get? That from now

2225
01:55:14.840 --> 01:55:16.680
<v Speaker 1>is it possible that they got THAT from a dmt

2226
01:55:16.840 --> 01:55:19.119
<v Speaker 1>trip and just put down. What they saw. It's very

2227
01:55:19.159 --> 01:55:21.199
<v Speaker 1>possible you could see all kinds of SHIT in a

2228
01:55:21.279 --> 01:55:25.079
<v Speaker 1>dmt trip that you've. Never seen. Before who knows but,

2229
01:55:25.840 --> 01:55:28.359
<v Speaker 1>like we said could this be a literal depiction of something?

2230
01:55:28.399 --> 01:55:32.079
<v Speaker 1>That took place could this? Be completely symbolic and there's

2231
01:55:32.520 --> 01:55:35.720
<v Speaker 1>levels to the symbolism of every ounce of this seven

2232
01:55:35.840 --> 01:55:39.560
<v Speaker 1>ton sarcophagus lid. Open To, Interpretation bro.

2233
01:55:39.640 --> 01:55:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Well and it looks like he's, On his side but

2234
01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:44.640
<v Speaker 2>could he just? Be laying, down you know like if you,

2235
01:55:44.640 --> 01:55:46.840
<v Speaker 2>think about it like if he's out there having a

2236
01:55:46.840 --> 01:55:48.560
<v Speaker 2>full On trip and i'm not just gonna stick on.

2237
01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:51.079
<v Speaker 2>This just whatever but if he's out there having some

2238
01:55:51.199 --> 01:55:53.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of full on trip and, he's laying down you

2239
01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:56.800
<v Speaker 2>would probably perceive that the tree of life. Comes from

2240
01:55:56.840 --> 01:55:59.560
<v Speaker 2>you like you ever see like certain people that like

2241
01:56:00.199 --> 01:56:02.600
<v Speaker 2>What was That rick and morty episode where they do

2242
01:56:02.760 --> 01:56:05.199
<v Speaker 2>like some kind of space psychedelic, or some Shit and,

2243
01:56:05.479 --> 01:56:09.199
<v Speaker 2>FUCKING jerry's like i. Literally am, time you know some

2244
01:56:09.239 --> 01:56:12.079
<v Speaker 2>people have like, weird you know, correlations like that and

2245
01:56:12.119 --> 01:56:14.520
<v Speaker 2>so maybe, he, Was like yo i'm actually the tree

2246
01:56:14.520 --> 01:56:16.760
<v Speaker 2>of Fucking life and i'm the center, of the universe

2247
01:56:16.920 --> 01:56:19.920
<v Speaker 2>which a lot of people come to that conclusion after

2248
01:56:19.960 --> 01:56:24.039
<v Speaker 2>a heavy. DOSES of, PSYCHEDELICS i, mean i mean. It's

2249
01:56:24.039 --> 01:56:26.039
<v Speaker 2>A theory i'm i'm not even trying to prove it one.

2250
01:56:26.039 --> 01:56:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Way or another but that's.

2251
01:56:26.840 --> 01:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>MY best cause, I hear you i honestly can't say one.

2252
01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:30.159
<v Speaker 8>Way.

2253
01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Or another dude it's very fascinating and it all none

2254
01:56:34.079 --> 01:56:37.680
<v Speaker 1>of it, necessarily makes sense but it all kind of

2255
01:56:37.840 --> 01:56:40.920
<v Speaker 1>flows in makes sense at. The same time it's a,

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01:56:41.039 --> 01:56:42.800
<v Speaker 1>very interesting thing WHICH is why i thought it'd be

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01:56:42.840 --> 01:56:44.840
<v Speaker 1>a fun episode for us to, talk about today especially

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01:56:44.880 --> 01:56:48.399
<v Speaker 1>as we talk about the the ethereal and, the disproven

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01:56:48.479 --> 01:56:50.680
<v Speaker 1>slash proven slash whatever you want to call, it, A,

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01:56:50.960 --> 01:56:55.960
<v Speaker 1>history right yes you, Got, ONE more yeah i got,

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01:56:55.960 --> 01:56:58.119
<v Speaker 1>one more thing and this, as we do got keep

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01:56:58.119 --> 01:57:00.159
<v Speaker 1>the third eye all, the way open which means we

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01:57:00.199 --> 01:57:02.520
<v Speaker 1>do have to hear from some of the haters that

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01:57:02.560 --> 01:57:05.880
<v Speaker 1>are sipping on. That hater rade but, aside from that

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01:57:06.119 --> 01:57:08.920
<v Speaker 1>they actually show the. Entire image here oh, there we

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01:57:08.960 --> 01:57:13.079
<v Speaker 1>go which is. Really really, dope but okay let's let's

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01:57:13.159 --> 01:57:17.279
<v Speaker 1>break it down in. The reading here this Article is

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01:57:17.319 --> 01:57:22.239
<v Speaker 1>From misfits and heroes dot. WordPress dot Com the title

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01:57:22.720 --> 01:57:26.319
<v Speaker 1>It's Not, an alien astronaut so you can already tell

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01:57:26.319 --> 01:57:29.039
<v Speaker 1>where they're going. With this one but we do need

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01:57:29.079 --> 01:57:30.800
<v Speaker 1>to keep it all the way one hundred with our.

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01:57:30.800 --> 01:57:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Good cult members and THERE is some i, was gonna say,

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01:57:33.840 --> 01:57:35.439
<v Speaker 2>by the way and look at the date that, it was.

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01:57:35.479 --> 01:57:39.479
<v Speaker 1>Published twenty seventeen the date.

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01:57:39.319 --> 01:57:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Though mark mark six on that three six here three.

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01:57:45.119 --> 01:57:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Six, ma FIEW anyway SO i Think, i got yeah

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01:57:49.520 --> 01:57:52.039
<v Speaker 1>it's about AS far as i can go zooming and

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01:57:52.079 --> 01:57:52.840
<v Speaker 1>still getting all.

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01:57:52.840 --> 01:57:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Of, THE sentences damn i just had that all like

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01:57:54.960 --> 01:57:57.079
<v Speaker 2>that straight up baton bruge come out of. ME just

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01:57:57.119 --> 01:57:58.840
<v Speaker 2>now i don't even know where that Came, from you'ur.

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01:58:02.279 --> 01:58:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Indeed all right so going into, the article, here

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01:58:05.920 --> 01:58:09.000
<v Speaker 1>IT says when i Visited the famous Maya city of Palanque,

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01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:11.359
<v Speaker 1>IN southern mexico i had the chance to see the

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01:58:11.399 --> 01:58:16.319
<v Speaker 1>full sized replica of the sarcophagus Of knich Janab Pakall

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01:58:16.720 --> 01:58:19.800
<v Speaker 1>or Pa. Call the great the original is Still under The,

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01:58:19.800 --> 01:58:22.359
<v Speaker 1>temple of inscriptions where it was discovered. Nineteen, fifty two

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01:58:22.600 --> 01:58:25.960
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately archaeologists at the time were not able to translate

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01:58:26.039 --> 01:58:29.479
<v Speaker 1>the many symbols and glyphs, on the sarcophagus so people guessed.

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01:58:29.520 --> 01:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>At the meaning one, guest in particular proved to. Be

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01:58:32.119 --> 01:58:35.279
<v Speaker 1>very popular In his book Periots, of the gods published in,

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01:58:35.319 --> 01:58:39.079
<v Speaker 1>Nineteen Sixty Eight eric vaughan danakin proposed that the image

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01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:43.560
<v Speaker 1>on the sarcophagus actually showed. An alien astronaut palanqua was

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01:58:43.600 --> 01:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>one of the ancient sites that he proposed were proof

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01:58:46.640 --> 01:58:49.960
<v Speaker 1>of Alien. Presence on earth the book, was widely popular

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01:58:50.079 --> 01:58:54.239
<v Speaker 1>selling over, seven million copies and The SAME. Year arthur

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01:58:54.279 --> 01:58:57.520
<v Speaker 1>c clark's space epic two, THOUSAND And One, a space.

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01:58:57.560 --> 01:59:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Odyssey was published it continued a storyline from His Earlier,

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01:59:01.640 --> 01:59:05.199
<v Speaker 1>work the sentinel written in, nineteen fifty one which tells

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01:59:05.199 --> 01:59:07.359
<v Speaker 1>the story of an ancient artifact Left on the moon

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01:59:07.399 --> 01:59:10.680
<v Speaker 1>by alien beings in two Thousand And, one Space odyssey

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01:59:10.720 --> 01:59:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the obelisk proves to be, more excuse me proves to

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01:59:13.880 --> 01:59:17.600
<v Speaker 1>be the force behind these sudden advancements, in human achievement

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01:59:17.720 --> 01:59:20.600
<v Speaker 1>including the first use of weapons by the ape men

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01:59:21.039 --> 01:59:25.319
<v Speaker 1>shown at the beginning. Of The Movie so von danakin

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01:59:25.600 --> 01:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>was simply using popular science fiction theories and imposing them on, specific,

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01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:36.319
<v Speaker 1>ancient sites, Including Among, Others, Monte, pieshiu Nosca. Cusco and palanque,

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01:59:36.680 --> 01:59:39.079
<v Speaker 1>the problem is now that experts can read the mind

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01:59:39.119 --> 01:59:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Glyphs and, understand mayan cosmology people still want to see

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01:59:42.680 --> 01:59:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a picture of an Alien astronaut on Pacal. The GREATS

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01:59:45.720 --> 01:59:48.800
<v Speaker 1>tomb when i was walking from the ruins, TO the

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01:59:48.880 --> 01:59:52.159
<v Speaker 1>museum i passed numerous street vendors offering Small replicas of

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01:59:52.159 --> 01:59:55.399
<v Speaker 1>pacall's tombld ONE of which i bought. For ten dollars

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01:59:55.640 --> 01:59:57.920
<v Speaker 1>but the vendor also held the plac cup sideways and

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01:59:57.960 --> 02:00:01.479
<v Speaker 1>pointed out the alien ashnout in CASE that's, what i,

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02:00:01.520 --> 02:00:04.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted all right so real quick before, He continue reading

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<v Speaker 1>so this is, the, Actual depiction right this is the

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02:00:08.640 --> 02:00:12.479
<v Speaker 1>actual stone, carving of it which is still mind. Blowing,

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02:00:12.520 --> 02:00:13.720
<v Speaker 1>To me right.

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<v Speaker 2>So it seems like they're using it nowadays as more

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02:00:16.600 --> 02:00:18.039
<v Speaker 2>of like. A tourist attraction you want to.

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02:00:18.039 --> 02:00:21.039
<v Speaker 1>See, THE astronaut, well i mean if somebody on the

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02:00:21.039 --> 02:00:23.399
<v Speaker 1>street is trying to, MAKE a sale i understand where. They're,

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02:00:23.399 --> 02:00:26.279
<v Speaker 1>GOING for YEAH i mean i. Get it now, that

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<v Speaker 1>being said this is a depiction with, all the inscriptions,

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02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:34.479
<v Speaker 1>all the things but also with some explanations. Associated with

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02:00:34.520 --> 02:00:37.800
<v Speaker 1>It the palin qu astronaut inscription on a tomb lid

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02:00:37.840 --> 02:00:40.319
<v Speaker 1>based relief in Sacred, temples of palaquet and this breaks

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02:00:40.319 --> 02:00:42.399
<v Speaker 1>down the entirety of the theory that he was on.

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02:00:42.439 --> 02:00:45.279
<v Speaker 1>A rocket ship so at the top we have new

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02:00:45.359 --> 02:00:48.840
<v Speaker 1>world found human beings are present at the mind people's.

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02:00:48.920 --> 02:00:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Make at home that's what this depiction at the top

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02:00:51.520 --> 02:00:55.239
<v Speaker 1>edge of the lid shows guds from the sky guiding

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02:00:55.319 --> 02:00:58.439
<v Speaker 1>the spacecraft that Would be boy, quetzel right here the

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02:00:58.840 --> 02:01:02.279
<v Speaker 1>symbol for crossing into. A new galaxy that would be

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02:01:02.319 --> 02:01:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the symbol right here at the. Corner piece right. Symbols

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02:01:05.319 --> 02:01:11.479
<v Speaker 1>representing extraterrestrials perhaps that's what, these things are. A navigation

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02:01:11.680 --> 02:01:15.239
<v Speaker 1>system perhaps that's what all these little things that are

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02:01:15.279 --> 02:01:16.960
<v Speaker 1>like sticking out, at the front like you've seen an,

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02:01:17.000 --> 02:01:20.000
<v Speaker 1>aircraft these days a jet will have like a really

2341
02:01:20.079 --> 02:01:22.720
<v Speaker 1>small metal tube sticking out of the front. Nose of

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02:01:22.760 --> 02:01:25.479
<v Speaker 1>it perhaps that's. A navigation system.

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02:01:25.279 --> 02:01:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Or if, you, ever seen like what are? Those those

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02:01:27.239 --> 02:01:30.439
<v Speaker 2>airships they always used to have those little things. AT

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02:01:30.479 --> 02:01:31.800
<v Speaker 2>the top i don't know what the. FUCK they're called

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02:01:32.119 --> 02:01:33.880
<v Speaker 2>i know, what you mean and so maybe that's what

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02:01:33.880 --> 02:01:37.239
<v Speaker 2>we're looking at. In this iconography the symbol for food

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02:01:37.359 --> 02:01:40.760
<v Speaker 2>system is being depicted here this right by his mouth

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02:01:41.039 --> 02:01:43.119
<v Speaker 2>as he's on a ship that might take him a

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02:01:43.119 --> 02:01:45.239
<v Speaker 2>long time to get to. Where he's going perhaps he

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02:01:45.319 --> 02:01:46.920
<v Speaker 2>needed a little bit of something to eat while he's.

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02:01:46.920 --> 02:01:49.680
<v Speaker 1>ON the ship. I don't know. The oxygen system this

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02:01:49.720 --> 02:01:51.760
<v Speaker 1>would be the thing. On his nose the symbol for

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02:01:51.800 --> 02:01:53.960
<v Speaker 1>crossing into the new galaxy right. Here as well so

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02:01:54.000 --> 02:01:56.399
<v Speaker 1>we see one. At the corner we see one at.

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02:01:56.399 --> 02:02:02.560
<v Speaker 1>The middle right this is the well. Cushioned head rest

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02:02:02.880 --> 02:02:05.960
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing is not. A head dress it's. A, head.

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02:02:06.119 --> 02:02:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Rest okay okay notice the gravitational pull, on the hair

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02:02:11.560 --> 02:02:13.439
<v Speaker 1>so like the hair isn't flying back as if he's

2360
02:02:13.520 --> 02:02:15.319
<v Speaker 1>laying down and his hair would be. Going this way

2361
02:02:15.760 --> 02:02:19.199
<v Speaker 1>it's being shot downward as if he's being thrust up. By,

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02:02:19.239 --> 02:02:26.439
<v Speaker 1>his rocket okay the symbol For. The planet saturn interesting

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02:02:26.479 --> 02:02:27.159
<v Speaker 1>that that's on the edge.

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02:02:27.159 --> 02:02:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Of the way, in a second you know what this

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02:02:29.600 --> 02:02:32.680
<v Speaker 2>really looks like how he's sitting. In that position doesn't

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02:02:32.720 --> 02:02:34.840
<v Speaker 2>it look like? HE'S giving birth.

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02:02:36.159 --> 02:02:39.199
<v Speaker 1>I see a dude on, A craw, rocket but like,

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02:02:39.520 --> 02:02:42.199
<v Speaker 1>because giving birth he'd be going out this way with

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02:02:42.239 --> 02:02:46.520
<v Speaker 1>whatever the business end of. This transaction was that's, JUST.

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<v Speaker 2>Me well i, mean giving well maybe, not giving birth

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02:02:49.479 --> 02:02:52.119
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's just strange how you have the tree

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02:02:52.279 --> 02:02:57.159
<v Speaker 2>essentially coming out, of his crotch and could it be

2373
02:02:57.439 --> 02:02:59.960
<v Speaker 2>like some kind. Of phallis symbolism but.

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02:03:00.439 --> 02:03:03.000
<v Speaker 1>His other knee, is right here so like this isn't

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02:03:03.039 --> 02:03:05.920
<v Speaker 1>coming from inside of his chest or stomach web. Between

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02:03:05.920 --> 02:03:07.960
<v Speaker 1>his legs it's like he's riding the, side of. It,

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02:03:08.039 --> 02:03:12.119
<v Speaker 1>IF anything, okay i see let's see symbol For. The

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02:03:12.119 --> 02:03:17.000
<v Speaker 1>planet saturn this symbol. Representing combustible fuel apparently this was

2379
02:03:17.000 --> 02:03:20.880
<v Speaker 1>a symbol that the minds Used for flammable the symbol

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02:03:20.920 --> 02:03:25.439
<v Speaker 1>For the planet venus. Is also present Fuego or an english.

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02:03:25.640 --> 02:03:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Fire signified combustion and. Engine powered vehicle so that's, what

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02:03:30.439 --> 02:03:34.239
<v Speaker 1>this all this fire. Was right here this is our

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02:03:34.439 --> 02:03:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Word containing the this, is our world containing human. Beings

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02:03:38.199 --> 02:03:41.399
<v Speaker 1>as ourselves this is where. The people start so on

2385
02:03:41.479 --> 02:03:45.359
<v Speaker 1>this edge of the lid. Showed his people on this edge,

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02:03:45.359 --> 02:03:48.479
<v Speaker 1>of the lid it showed the new world of human beings,

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02:03:48.520 --> 02:03:51.239
<v Speaker 1>like the gods right in. His NEW home so i

2388
02:03:51.239 --> 02:03:52.960
<v Speaker 1>find that to. Be interesting too at the base of

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02:03:53.000 --> 02:03:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the rocket vers the top, of the rocket or the,

2390
02:03:54.840 --> 02:03:59.319
<v Speaker 1>tree or whatever symbol for the, two moon planet which

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02:03:59.399 --> 02:04:03.560
<v Speaker 1>was another one of the. The astronomical signs this is

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02:04:03.560 --> 02:04:06.640
<v Speaker 1>thought to be an ignition and or a breaking system,

2393
02:04:06.680 --> 02:04:09.399
<v Speaker 1>by his feet very similar to how human beings in

2394
02:04:09.439 --> 02:04:11.399
<v Speaker 1>our cars have a gas pedal and. A brake pedal

2395
02:04:11.520 --> 02:04:16.279
<v Speaker 1>fair enough are these controls. To the spacecraft the things

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02:04:16.279 --> 02:04:19.680
<v Speaker 1>that his hands are all over thought to be symbols

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02:04:19.720 --> 02:04:22.840
<v Speaker 1>of planets. In other galaxies these other little symbols on

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02:04:22.880 --> 02:04:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the edges Symbols, for baby mayan indicating that the travels

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02:04:28.199 --> 02:04:33.680
<v Speaker 1>left their seed on. The new world very interesting Symbols

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02:04:33.720 --> 02:04:38.199
<v Speaker 1>for extraterrestrial so this was the symbol, Of right here

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02:04:38.640 --> 02:04:41.680
<v Speaker 1>this we might call the symbol of. Like the gods

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02:04:42.119 --> 02:04:44.600
<v Speaker 1>perhaps it was the. SYMBOL of aliens i. Do not

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02:04:44.800 --> 02:04:49.680
<v Speaker 1>know and also these are symbols representing extraterrestrials on the

2404
02:04:49.840 --> 02:04:53.520
<v Speaker 1>edge and Later. On with quetzel so that is just

2405
02:04:53.600 --> 02:04:56.560
<v Speaker 1>some of the iconography. That has shown now they've also

2406
02:04:56.600 --> 02:05:00.399
<v Speaker 1>got this image where they recreated IN a three d

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02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:01.800
<v Speaker 1>image of what this dew would.

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02:05:01.840 --> 02:05:01.920
<v Speaker 4>Be.

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02:05:01.920 --> 02:05:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Looking at here you see the tree doesn't go behind

2410
02:05:05.359 --> 02:05:09.159
<v Speaker 1>him exactly like straddling it.

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02:05:09.199 --> 02:05:11.600
<v Speaker 2>From his seat it almost looks like one of those,

2412
02:05:12.279 --> 02:05:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the submarine telescopes.

2413
02:05:14.680 --> 02:05:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Like a, periscope, yeah.

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02:05:15.760 --> 02:05:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah Yeah.

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02:05:17.199 --> 02:05:20.279
<v Speaker 1>And again i'm not saying that that's clearly. What THIS

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02:05:20.520 --> 02:05:23.800
<v Speaker 1>is but i also understand why how would you make

2417
02:05:23.840 --> 02:05:27.720
<v Speaker 1>a stone carving to? Show this image this is not

2418
02:05:28.399 --> 02:05:31.560
<v Speaker 1>a crazy far, fetched, comparison.

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02:05:31.079 --> 02:05:35.840
<v Speaker 2>HERE right man i have no idea what to do. With,

2420
02:05:35.880 --> 02:05:40.359
<v Speaker 2>this dude, now IT'S awesome and i think that's that's

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02:05:40.399 --> 02:05:44.319
<v Speaker 2>probably kind of, the point though just to allow the imagination.

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02:05:44.359 --> 02:05:48.079
<v Speaker 1>To run rampant but according, to this article the hoax is.

2423
02:05:48.159 --> 02:05:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Extraordinarily long lived maybe it's the appeal of seeing intelligent

2424
02:05:52.119 --> 02:05:54.800
<v Speaker 1>aliens as part. OF our history Tv Shows, like Ancient

2425
02:05:54.840 --> 02:05:58.600
<v Speaker 1>aliens In, Search Of, aliens Mystery Quest and history's mysteries

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02:05:58.920 --> 02:06:01.800
<v Speaker 1>keep the story Of alien astronauts. Alive and well for

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02:06:01.880 --> 02:06:05.479
<v Speaker 1>An Episode, Of Ancient, aliens paul francis, a model maker

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02:06:05.760 --> 02:06:08.279
<v Speaker 1>CREATED a three d image of the Alien astronaut on

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02:06:08.319 --> 02:06:11.279
<v Speaker 1>pecall's tomb lid see. The photo, ABOVE he admitted i

2430
02:06:11.319 --> 02:06:15.000
<v Speaker 1>had to be, A little. Interpretive i guess so the

2431
02:06:15.119 --> 02:06:17.760
<v Speaker 1>rocket he created looks nothing like the image. ON the.

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02:06:17.800 --> 02:06:21.920
<v Speaker 1>SARCOPHAGUS i don't i don't actually. AGREE with that i

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02:06:21.920 --> 02:06:25.039
<v Speaker 1>think this is a pretty close comparison as far. As.

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02:06:25.079 --> 02:06:27.840
<v Speaker 2>THAT goes, EH i mean i could see how he

2435
02:06:28.199 --> 02:06:29.720
<v Speaker 2>took some liberties, of his, own.

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02:06:30.199 --> 02:06:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Some liberties absolutely but it's not like this looks nothing,

2437
02:06:33.079 --> 02:06:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Like this, now it's.

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02:06:34.560 --> 02:06:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Comparable, For SURE.

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02:06:36.159 --> 02:06:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah BUT i mean i understand why some is sip

2440
02:06:38.880 --> 02:06:42.039
<v Speaker 1>and hater aid, would be like, no, Fucking, way, man, okay, yeah,

2441
02:06:42.079 --> 02:06:42.960
<v Speaker 1>sure sure sure.

2442
02:06:42.800 --> 02:06:46.600
<v Speaker 2>But some people just really love just waking up in

2443
02:06:46.640 --> 02:06:48.880
<v Speaker 2>the morning and pissing in. Their own, cheerios you know.

2444
02:06:49.159 --> 02:06:53.079
<v Speaker 1>It's a thing it. Is a thing now. Let's continue

2445
02:06:53.079 --> 02:06:55.439
<v Speaker 1>here we got some more images from other cultures. Around

2446
02:06:55.479 --> 02:06:58.279
<v Speaker 1>the world the whole debate arose out of ignorance of

2447
02:06:58.319 --> 02:07:01.720
<v Speaker 1>the belief systems and cultural set Of. The ancient maya

2448
02:07:01.880 --> 02:07:03.880
<v Speaker 1>it would be like seeing a Photo of The, indian

2449
02:07:03.880 --> 02:07:07.239
<v Speaker 1>god ganesh which is of the elephant with like nine,

2450
02:07:07.279 --> 02:07:09.600
<v Speaker 1>hands and shit and trying to interpret it with no

2451
02:07:09.720 --> 02:07:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Knowledge of the hindu. Beliefs behind IT but basically i

2452
02:07:13.319 --> 02:07:15.720
<v Speaker 1>understand what, he's, Saying here right like if you had

2453
02:07:15.760 --> 02:07:19.279
<v Speaker 1>never heard Anything about the vedic belief system and they

2454
02:07:19.359 --> 02:07:22.319
<v Speaker 1>just uncovered some ancient temple and they showed an alien,

2455
02:07:22.359 --> 02:07:25.079
<v Speaker 1>with nine hands you mean to tell me there was

2456
02:07:25.159 --> 02:07:29.399
<v Speaker 1>ancient elephants with nine hands running around the earth wearing, Pants, And,

2457
02:07:29.439 --> 02:07:32.119
<v Speaker 1>SHIT like okay i understand why that would.

2458
02:07:32.199 --> 02:07:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Not, make sense yeah a, little cultural context AND that's

2459
02:07:35.199 --> 02:07:38.000
<v Speaker 2>why i say that almost all of, this ancient shit

2460
02:07:38.079 --> 02:07:41.079
<v Speaker 2>you're never supposed to, take it literal Like it's always

2461
02:07:41.279 --> 02:07:43.880
<v Speaker 2>i'm not gonna say always ninety eight percent. Of the

2462
02:07:43.880 --> 02:07:44.640
<v Speaker 2>time it's meant, to be.

2463
02:07:44.680 --> 02:07:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Symbolic very truly and then we can skin continue here

2464
02:07:48.479 --> 02:07:50.479
<v Speaker 1>or looking at the Image from The, book of kels

2465
02:07:50.800 --> 02:07:54.960
<v Speaker 1>The beautiful illuminated gospels drawn On kalfskin in ireland AROUND,

2466
02:07:55.000 --> 02:07:59.119
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred ad without an understanding of. The four evangelists

2467
02:07:59.119 --> 02:08:03.319
<v Speaker 1>it pictures, and winged representations which. Is very true if

2468
02:08:03.319 --> 02:08:06.279
<v Speaker 1>you were to just take this picture, out of context, you,

2469
02:08:06.319 --> 02:08:08.720
<v Speaker 1>would think oh so these human beings just had wings.

2470
02:08:08.720 --> 02:08:10.760
<v Speaker 1>At one point if you had never heard Anything, about

2471
02:08:10.800 --> 02:08:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the gospels or angels or any, of these things you

2472
02:08:13.800 --> 02:08:16.000
<v Speaker 1>would also, take, that like oh we're supposed to literally

2473
02:08:16.000 --> 02:08:18.239
<v Speaker 1>believe these dudes that walk the. Earth had, WINGS like

2474
02:08:18.359 --> 02:08:21.319
<v Speaker 1>okay i see where he's. Going with this that would

2475
02:08:21.359 --> 02:08:23.880
<v Speaker 1>be clockwise from. The, top. Left yeah okay we show

2476
02:08:23.920 --> 02:08:27.800
<v Speaker 1>that these symbols come from the Prophet Revelation. Of saint

2477
02:08:27.880 --> 02:08:30.800
<v Speaker 1>john imagine the wild theories that you could come up

2478
02:08:30.880 --> 02:08:33.600
<v Speaker 1>with if you didn't. Know, the background now let's talk

2479
02:08:33.640 --> 02:08:36.000
<v Speaker 1>about Some of the mayan symbols that we see in.

2480
02:08:36.039 --> 02:08:39.640
<v Speaker 1>This death toll mayan. Symbols and cosmology this is a

2481
02:08:39.680 --> 02:08:42.560
<v Speaker 1>picture of. The world tree as, It turns out maa

2482
02:08:42.640 --> 02:08:47.199
<v Speaker 1>cosmolological beliefs may have may many of which were absorbed,

2483
02:08:47.239 --> 02:08:50.520
<v Speaker 1>from earlier cultures were fairly Consistent across the. Mayan city

2484
02:08:50.560 --> 02:08:54.039
<v Speaker 1>states they saw the world as divided, into three zones,

2485
02:08:54.159 --> 02:08:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the upper world the land, of the gods the middle world,

2486
02:08:56.800 --> 02:08:59.720
<v Speaker 1>where humans live, and the underworld which is the realm. Of,

2487
02:08:59.720 --> 02:09:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the day however these realms weren't necessarily defined as. Good

2488
02:09:03.960 --> 02:09:07.600
<v Speaker 1>or evil every part. Had its value the world tree spanned.

2489
02:09:07.680 --> 02:09:10.359
<v Speaker 1>All three worlds its roots Were, in the underworld its

2490
02:09:10.399 --> 02:09:12.960
<v Speaker 1>trunk Was In, the middle world and its highest Branches In,

2491
02:09:13.119 --> 02:09:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the other World Or. The god realm it, took several

2492
02:09:15.920 --> 02:09:20.000
<v Speaker 1>forms including, the sibia tree, stylized maize plants and. A

2493
02:09:20.000 --> 02:09:23.680
<v Speaker 1>cacao tree the Version used on pekall's tomb lid is

2494
02:09:23.760 --> 02:09:27.000
<v Speaker 1>also used in a Mural in the Temple Of the

2495
02:09:27.039 --> 02:09:30.760
<v Speaker 1>foliated Cross at palanqu so this is that that he's.

2496
02:09:30.800 --> 02:09:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Talking about, here but again let's take a certain look.

2497
02:09:34.800 --> 02:09:39.279
<v Speaker 1>At the iconography these people are. Standing straight up their

2498
02:09:39.359 --> 02:09:42.600
<v Speaker 1>hands are, doing something right but they're not grabbing controls.

2499
02:09:42.640 --> 02:09:46.119
<v Speaker 1>By any means you see nothing touching their face as far.

2500
02:09:46.159 --> 02:09:49.720
<v Speaker 1>As that's, concerned their, hands their feet, their body language

2501
02:09:49.800 --> 02:09:54.359
<v Speaker 1>all of that is, Standing straight up so very different than. The,

2502
02:09:54.359 --> 02:09:55.119
<v Speaker 1>TOMB lid.

2503
02:09:55.119 --> 02:09:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Well i wanted to throw this, out there too? Isn't

2504
02:09:57.279 --> 02:10:01.399
<v Speaker 2>it crazy all of these different civilization all and not

2505
02:10:01.479 --> 02:10:03.920
<v Speaker 2>even just, the you Know the, meso america ones but

2506
02:10:04.039 --> 02:10:08.359
<v Speaker 2>like almost every single spiritual culture out there has some

2507
02:10:08.600 --> 02:10:12.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of reverence toward a world tree or some kind.

2508
02:10:12.800 --> 02:10:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Of tree symbolism so You, have in Mesopotamia obviously, the

2509
02:10:17.399 --> 02:10:21.119
<v Speaker 2>egyptian tree which is called Which is, the Acacia tree,

2510
02:10:22.079 --> 02:10:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the slavic one which is it's a three three tiered

2511
02:10:26.119 --> 02:10:29.880
<v Speaker 2>world tree, Symbolized, by heaven earth. And The underworld in Norse,

2512
02:10:29.880 --> 02:10:32.479
<v Speaker 2>you have yudrsil an immense ash tree connected to. The

2513
02:10:32.560 --> 02:10:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Nine worlds in india You have, the banyan tree is

2514
02:10:35.439 --> 02:10:38.279
<v Speaker 2>associated with protection in the. Circle Of life in china

2515
02:10:38.319 --> 02:10:40.399
<v Speaker 2>You have the world tree depicted with a phoenix, and

2516
02:10:40.399 --> 02:10:44.520
<v Speaker 2>a dragon with the. Dragon symbolizing immortality And then in

2517
02:10:45.119 --> 02:10:49.800
<v Speaker 2>japan you have trees were seen as sacred and symbolic of.

2518
02:10:49.840 --> 02:10:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Life and connection and that's not even Including in The

2519
02:10:54.039 --> 02:10:56.640
<v Speaker 2>garden of Eden with The tree Of life With. Adam.

2520
02:10:56.640 --> 02:10:59.760
<v Speaker 2>And eve right so it's like every single culture had

2521
02:10:59.800 --> 02:11:02.159
<v Speaker 2>some kind of. Tree of life it makes, you wonder

2522
02:11:02.239 --> 02:11:06.199
<v Speaker 2>like how did they all? Put that together this is.

2523
02:11:06.119 --> 02:11:07.680
<v Speaker 1>One of those things where it's like all of them

2524
02:11:07.760 --> 02:11:12.880
<v Speaker 1>had some sort of astrological significance. Behind star systems how

2525
02:11:12.880 --> 02:11:14.840
<v Speaker 1>do they all? FIGURE that out i think that there

2526
02:11:14.880 --> 02:11:17.520
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit of some transference of knowledge of

2527
02:11:17.560 --> 02:11:20.199
<v Speaker 1>people that, have never talked and there's like a kernel of.

2528
02:11:20.239 --> 02:11:22.760
<v Speaker 1>TRUTH to it i think there is some some real

2529
02:11:23.000 --> 02:11:26.680
<v Speaker 1>spiritual revelations from looking at a, TREE right now i

2530
02:11:26.760 --> 02:11:28.399
<v Speaker 1>mean just like staring at one, and, being like ah

2531
02:11:28.399 --> 02:11:31.439
<v Speaker 1>IT'S the, spiritual i mean like really looking at the

2532
02:11:31.520 --> 02:11:34.680
<v Speaker 1>structure of how. A tree grows it takes nutrients, from

2533
02:11:34.720 --> 02:11:37.399
<v Speaker 1>the ground it takes nutrients, from the sky and it

2534
02:11:37.479 --> 02:11:40.560
<v Speaker 1>lives within, our middle, world right right symbolic.

2535
02:11:40.920 --> 02:11:42.800
<v Speaker 2>In every sense really if you look at it for

2536
02:11:43.319 --> 02:11:45.239
<v Speaker 2>all the realms that it would. Be, connected to yeah

2537
02:11:45.319 --> 02:11:47.800
<v Speaker 2>of course you have the roots Going, down to hell and,

2538
02:11:47.840 --> 02:11:50.199
<v Speaker 2>then you know you have the base of the tree,

2539
02:11:50.239 --> 02:11:53.279
<v Speaker 2>here on earth and then the branches and everything up.

2540
02:11:53.279 --> 02:11:55.159
<v Speaker 2>IN the heavens, i get it. It makes SENSE it's

2541
02:11:55.239 --> 02:11:57.840
<v Speaker 2>just i just find it fascinating that everybody put that

2542
02:11:57.920 --> 02:12:00.600
<v Speaker 2>together and they all think that they ALL all, use

2543
02:12:01.119 --> 02:12:05.159
<v Speaker 2>i mean it's like every single version of it incorporates

2544
02:12:05.159 --> 02:12:08.720
<v Speaker 2>all three. Levels, at least yeah of heaven and the earth.

2545
02:12:09.359 --> 02:12:11.359
<v Speaker 2>And the underworld it all.

2546
02:12:11.199 --> 02:12:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Ties together, in my opinion especially like like, you just

2547
02:12:14.119 --> 02:12:17.359
<v Speaker 1>said the root system goes, into the ground whether you

2548
02:12:17.439 --> 02:12:20.319
<v Speaker 1>call it the Like not necessarily hell or the realm,

2549
02:12:20.359 --> 02:12:22.399
<v Speaker 1>of the dead which but that makes sense because a

2550
02:12:22.399 --> 02:12:25.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of cultures, buried their dead so into the ground

2551
02:12:25.640 --> 02:12:29.199
<v Speaker 1>or down below was seen as where. Dead people go that.

2552
02:12:29.319 --> 02:12:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Just made sense so the tree root systems getting its

2553
02:12:32.079 --> 02:12:34.920
<v Speaker 1>nutrients from the underworld or from the realm of the,

2554
02:12:34.960 --> 02:12:38.199
<v Speaker 1>dead or whatever. Perfectly makes sense it wouldn't take a

2555
02:12:39.520 --> 02:12:43.439
<v Speaker 1>decently logical man to notice that a tree with no, leaves,

2556
02:12:43.479 --> 02:12:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Can't survive right so it has to be getting its

2557
02:12:46.159 --> 02:12:49.159
<v Speaker 1>nutrients from the, sky as well either, from the sun,

2558
02:12:49.239 --> 02:12:51.680
<v Speaker 1>from the stars, from the air. From the whatever it

2559
02:12:51.720 --> 02:12:54.720
<v Speaker 1>makes perfect sense that this tree is getting nutrients from

2560
02:12:54.800 --> 02:12:57.720
<v Speaker 1>up top. And down low, but its trunk, the wood

2561
02:12:57.800 --> 02:13:01.640
<v Speaker 1>itself is what humans live with. In our realm so

2562
02:13:01.680 --> 02:13:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to say there's like a three tier realm to it

2563
02:13:04.000 --> 02:13:07.000
<v Speaker 1>perfectly makes. Sense to me whether You're, Living, In, Asia, Mesoamerica,

2564
02:13:07.119 --> 02:13:10.439
<v Speaker 1>europe africa. Australia doesn't matter that that all makes. Sense

2565
02:13:10.439 --> 02:13:10.760
<v Speaker 1>to me it.

2566
02:13:10.840 --> 02:13:13.600
<v Speaker 2>All, Traverses right, yeah.

2567
02:13:13.000 --> 02:13:16.239
<v Speaker 1>But again these dudes do not have their their bodies

2568
02:13:16.279 --> 02:13:19.479
<v Speaker 1>in weird. Almost fetal positions their feet are standing, Firm

2569
02:13:19.479 --> 02:13:22.159
<v Speaker 1>on platforms their hands, are touching things but not in

2570
02:13:22.199 --> 02:13:25.600
<v Speaker 1>weird risk manipulations and. Things like that nothing's touch. In

2571
02:13:25.640 --> 02:13:27.439
<v Speaker 1>their faces THIS is what i mean that it's very

2572
02:13:27.560 --> 02:13:28.439
<v Speaker 1>very different for.

2573
02:13:28.560 --> 02:13:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Almost thing else it almost looks like they got their head,

2574
02:13:30.840 --> 02:13:34.560
<v Speaker 2>in the clouds but there they're gravity centered if you will.

2575
02:13:35.000 --> 02:13:37.119
<v Speaker 1>A little bit YOU know, What i mean like their petzel.

2576
02:13:36.880 --> 02:13:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Their feet are. On the, ground well yeah but ketzel

2577
02:13:38.920 --> 02:13:41.520
<v Speaker 2>is supposed to be like, a sky, God right exactly

2578
02:13:41.560 --> 02:13:44.520
<v Speaker 2>and so it's like they're grounded, here on earth yet

2579
02:13:44.640 --> 02:13:46.680
<v Speaker 2>their their heads are up there in. Heaven as well

2580
02:13:46.680 --> 02:13:49.079
<v Speaker 2>it's like. A PERFECT grounding, and i, COULD you know

2581
02:13:49.159 --> 02:13:51.880
<v Speaker 2>i feel like with a lot of, different spiritual modalities

2582
02:13:52.159 --> 02:13:55.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people get real like way too crazy,

2583
02:13:55.319 --> 02:13:59.039
<v Speaker 2>and too imaginative and their feet come off the ground

2584
02:13:59.119 --> 02:14:01.840
<v Speaker 2>and they're they they don't want to, include anything logical

2585
02:14:01.960 --> 02:14:04.159
<v Speaker 2>anything left brained or. Anything like that but then you

2586
02:14:04.239 --> 02:14:07.439
<v Speaker 2>got the atheist or you know or whatever that are just.

2587
02:14:07.560 --> 02:14:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Like two grounded they don't go imaginative or creative or

2588
02:14:10.600 --> 02:14:13.000
<v Speaker 2>anything like. That AT all and i think, that this

2589
02:14:13.159 --> 02:14:16.920
<v Speaker 2>picture amongst other, pictures as well almost proves that you

2590
02:14:17.000 --> 02:14:19.399
<v Speaker 2>need to integrate both the left and the right brain

2591
02:14:19.479 --> 02:14:21.119
<v Speaker 2>together in order to be able to really get.

2592
02:14:21.119 --> 02:14:24.000
<v Speaker 1>THE whole picture i, AGREE with you. I really do

2593
02:14:24.399 --> 02:14:28.199
<v Speaker 1>now let me point. Out something else this is supposed

2594
02:14:28.239 --> 02:14:31.319
<v Speaker 1>to be the tree of life, in, This IMAGE right

2595
02:14:31.359 --> 02:14:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and i should also mention this was found in the

2596
02:14:33.760 --> 02:14:37.119
<v Speaker 1>same city as. The sarcophagus lid it's from, the same,

2597
02:14:37.239 --> 02:14:41.279
<v Speaker 1>spot same artists renditions. All these things but do you

2598
02:14:41.479 --> 02:14:44.359
<v Speaker 1>notice that there is no fire coming from the bottom.

2599
02:14:44.399 --> 02:14:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Of the tree there is no urn that they're talking

2600
02:14:47.319 --> 02:14:50.319
<v Speaker 1>about or. Anything like that it is very much a

2601
02:14:50.439 --> 02:14:51.399
<v Speaker 1>normal depiction of a.

2602
02:14:51.479 --> 02:14:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Mayantree, of life yeah i'ma be, HONEST with you i

2603
02:14:53.760 --> 02:14:56.840
<v Speaker 2>never really saw the fucking fire, or the urn especially.

2604
02:14:56.840 --> 02:14:59.039
<v Speaker 2>NOT the, FIRE i mean i understand what, they're pointing

2605
02:14:59.079 --> 02:15:02.640
<v Speaker 2>at but like, that to me didn't, this, like say.

2606
02:15:02.720 --> 02:15:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Right that didn't that doesn't necessarily. Mean fire though that

2607
02:15:05.760 --> 02:15:09.119
<v Speaker 2>seems to be like taking a. Reach at, it but.

2608
02:15:09.199 --> 02:15:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay saying the, Same thing though this is what the

2609
02:15:11.880 --> 02:15:14.439
<v Speaker 1>base of this quote unquote tree of, life looks, Like

2610
02:15:15.079 --> 02:15:17.920
<v Speaker 1>right right this is the base of this. Tree of

2611
02:15:17.960 --> 02:15:20.039
<v Speaker 1>life would you say that that's even? The same base

2612
02:15:20.159 --> 02:15:22.439
<v Speaker 1>you could see the connections to, the same tree the,

2613
02:15:22.479 --> 02:15:24.960
<v Speaker 1>branches up here the top Of it with ketzel. At

2614
02:15:24.960 --> 02:15:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the top i'm with you as far. As that goes

2615
02:15:27.119 --> 02:15:28.359
<v Speaker 1>the base of it that's supposed to be, in the

2616
02:15:28.439 --> 02:15:32.119
<v Speaker 1>underworld this looks. NOTHING like, this.

2617
02:15:34.479 --> 02:15:37.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's, pretty CLOSE though, where.

2618
02:15:37.600 --> 02:15:39.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah you see this, flat part here but

2619
02:15:39.399 --> 02:15:42.239
<v Speaker 1>all the extra shit AT the, bottom i.

2620
02:15:42.199 --> 02:15:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Mean it looks. PRETTY fucking similar, I would.

2621
02:15:44.119 --> 02:15:44.399
<v Speaker 1>SAY i.

2622
02:15:44.399 --> 02:15:46.039
<v Speaker 2>DON'T i don't i wish.

2623
02:15:46.039 --> 02:15:48.600
<v Speaker 1>We had something this is the, flat part here and

2624
02:15:48.640 --> 02:15:51.159
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing extra at the bottom that would signify. Any

2625
02:15:51.199 --> 02:15:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of that this has all this extra. SHIT over here.

2626
02:15:55.079 --> 02:15:57.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's a little, bit, more DEPICTIVE sure but

2627
02:15:57.399 --> 02:15:59.079
<v Speaker 2>i think that the base stuff is.

2628
02:15:59.079 --> 02:16:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Pretty, much similar, Okay, Fair ENOUGH now, like i said

2629
02:16:02.720 --> 02:16:05.159
<v Speaker 1>this is a Tablet from the Temple Of the Foliated,

2630
02:16:05.279 --> 02:16:09.159
<v Speaker 1>cross In palaquet. Late classical period this tablet celebrates the

2631
02:16:09.199 --> 02:16:14.399
<v Speaker 1>emergence of Maize and The. Mountain of, Sustenance fair enough now.

2632
02:16:14.479 --> 02:16:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Let's continue, here it says have you seen the same

2633
02:16:17.520 --> 02:16:21.319
<v Speaker 1>imagery minus. The Reclining human. Here i'm sorry here you

2634
02:16:21.359 --> 02:16:23.840
<v Speaker 1>see the same imagery, minuster reclining human the world tree

2635
02:16:23.920 --> 02:16:26.600
<v Speaker 1>rising from, the offering bowl marked with the denote or

2636
02:16:26.760 --> 02:16:30.439
<v Speaker 1>the dotted x can sign and filled with the, trappings

2637
02:16:30.479 --> 02:16:34.559
<v Speaker 1>of royalty, the crossed, skyband the fish and the lancet

2638
02:16:34.639 --> 02:16:38.520
<v Speaker 1>for ritual blood letting on the top of the underworld's realm.

2639
02:16:38.639 --> 02:16:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Of the dead the quawk monster head at the top

2640
02:16:43.200 --> 02:16:46.799
<v Speaker 1>of the tree is the. Principal bird deity now let's talk.

2641
02:16:46.840 --> 02:16:49.840
<v Speaker 1>About this. One shining Glory this is this is another

2642
02:16:49.879 --> 02:16:55.120
<v Speaker 1>image the from. The sarcophagus lid here all along the

2643
02:16:55.159 --> 02:16:59.000
<v Speaker 1>tree you find the symbol of precious greenstone, celts or

2644
02:16:59.040 --> 02:17:03.239
<v Speaker 1>selts emphasizing wealth and power as well. As shining glory

2645
02:17:03.360 --> 02:17:05.440
<v Speaker 1>in the diagram of the, glyphs for jade the celter,

2646
02:17:05.559 --> 02:17:08.799
<v Speaker 1>marked in red so on the sarcophagus lid everything that

2647
02:17:08.840 --> 02:17:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you see in this picture that are red was actually.

2648
02:17:11.239 --> 02:17:13.879
<v Speaker 1>Made of jades this was actually green on. The original

2649
02:17:13.920 --> 02:17:18.639
<v Speaker 1>lid right the tree also is marked with the. Sign for.

2650
02:17:18.719 --> 02:17:22.079
<v Speaker 1>Wood fair enough curled around the upper section of the

2651
02:17:22.120 --> 02:17:25.000
<v Speaker 1>tree is the milky way conflated with the double headed

2652
02:17:25.040 --> 02:17:27.719
<v Speaker 1>serpent bar which was the symbol of power For. The

2653
02:17:27.799 --> 02:17:32.440
<v Speaker 1>mine kings each serpent has a, huge upper jaw so that's.

2654
02:17:32.479 --> 02:17:34.520
<v Speaker 1>What these are these are supposed to be those Serpents.

2655
02:17:34.760 --> 02:17:39.440
<v Speaker 1>For mine kings it's interesting to see the same elements

2656
02:17:39.440 --> 02:17:42.120
<v Speaker 1>repeated in other, tablets and murals Which showed the world

2657
02:17:42.159 --> 02:17:44.639
<v Speaker 1>tree in the center growing out of the earth. Monster

2658
02:17:44.799 --> 02:17:46.799
<v Speaker 1>or underworld in the Case of the Temple. Of the

2659
02:17:46.840 --> 02:17:49.360
<v Speaker 1>cross the drawing above the world tree is a maze

2660
02:17:49.399 --> 02:17:53.680
<v Speaker 1>plant which personified ears of corn growing. From the, branches

2661
02:17:53.920 --> 02:17:57.200
<v Speaker 1>once again it grows Out of the kuok monster or

2662
02:17:57.280 --> 02:18:00.680
<v Speaker 1>underworld figure, at the bottom and the principal bird rests. At,

2663
02:18:00.719 --> 02:18:03.559
<v Speaker 1>the top interestingly the two figures in the mural are

2664
02:18:03.600 --> 02:18:07.319
<v Speaker 1>the same person. At different ages. Now that's interesting this

2665
02:18:07.399 --> 02:18:09.879
<v Speaker 1>picture we're looking at this is that's why he's standing

2666
02:18:09.920 --> 02:18:12.840
<v Speaker 1>up on like a pedestal in this one here and

2667
02:18:13.079 --> 02:18:15.920
<v Speaker 1>over here he's standing. On flat ground so it is supposed

2668
02:18:15.959 --> 02:18:18.280
<v Speaker 1>to be, the same dude just at two different points. In, His,

2669
02:18:18.319 --> 02:18:19.040
<v Speaker 1>life wow.

2670
02:18:19.159 --> 02:18:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's, cool.

2671
02:18:21.879 --> 02:18:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Moving on note that the figure on the right stands

2672
02:18:25.440 --> 02:18:28.559
<v Speaker 1>on a personal, personified maze plant while the one on

2673
02:18:28.559 --> 02:18:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the left Stands on a kuak monster with a cleft

2674
02:18:31.440 --> 02:18:35.040
<v Speaker 1>head from which. The corn merges the king Dying In

2675
02:18:35.079 --> 02:18:38.440
<v Speaker 1>The young maze God being reborn pacall on his tomb

2676
02:18:38.440 --> 02:18:42.200
<v Speaker 1>lid is presented as both the man dying falling into

2677
02:18:42.360 --> 02:18:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the maw of the underworld between jaguar jawbones and the

2678
02:18:47.040 --> 02:18:50.000
<v Speaker 1>baby being born onto the. Tree of life certain my

2679
02:18:50.200 --> 02:18:52.440
<v Speaker 1>rulers were thought to take on the role of god

2680
02:18:52.520 --> 02:18:55.440
<v Speaker 1>kings who could intercede with the spirit. World after death,

2681
02:18:55.760 --> 02:18:58.440
<v Speaker 1>In this image pacaul is being reborn As. The maize

2682
02:18:58.479 --> 02:19:01.879
<v Speaker 1>god note the seed and leaf image just below the Reclining.

2683
02:19:01.920 --> 02:19:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Figure of pacall just as the maid seed must be

2684
02:19:05.879 --> 02:19:09.440
<v Speaker 1>buried in the, earth, To grow right pacall is falling

2685
02:19:09.440 --> 02:19:13.319
<v Speaker 1>into the underworld only. To rise again now that's. ANOTHER

2686
02:19:13.360 --> 02:19:17.559
<v Speaker 1>interesting point. I see this this is the baby, icnography

2687
02:19:18.040 --> 02:19:21.399
<v Speaker 1>or union And this is pacall. In this form so

2688
02:19:21.440 --> 02:19:26.440
<v Speaker 1>they are saying that his body positioning is indicative of

2689
02:19:26.520 --> 02:19:30.399
<v Speaker 1>him being reborn as a baby from, the underworld spiritually,

2690
02:19:30.479 --> 02:19:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that is yeah.

2691
02:19:31.079 --> 02:19:31.120
<v Speaker 4>It.

2692
02:19:31.159 --> 02:19:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Makes sense Now the baby pacall is shown lying on

2693
02:19:35.159 --> 02:19:36.840
<v Speaker 1>his back with the, right leg raised which is the

2694
02:19:36.879 --> 02:19:39.440
<v Speaker 1>sign for the. Union or baby the drawing. On the

2695
02:19:39.520 --> 02:19:42.920
<v Speaker 1>left while this sign usually, shows an infant it's also

2696
02:19:43.079 --> 02:19:45.280
<v Speaker 1>used to show the Birth Of the maize god on

2697
02:19:45.360 --> 02:19:49.079
<v Speaker 1>a late classic vase drawing. On the right so this

2698
02:19:49.440 --> 02:19:53.280
<v Speaker 1>IS the vase i? Think right here or is? It this, one, oh,

2699
02:19:53.360 --> 02:19:55.040
<v Speaker 1>no no. No this one this is supposed To Be

2700
02:19:55.040 --> 02:20:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the maze. God being born. So all right while the

2701
02:20:00.840 --> 02:20:05.200
<v Speaker 1>SIGN usually, like i, said lace classippers note the vegetation

2702
02:20:05.360 --> 02:20:08.079
<v Speaker 1>growing out of the cleft Head of. The kuwakh monster

2703
02:20:08.239 --> 02:20:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that's all these like foliage and. Things, over here now

2704
02:20:12.280 --> 02:20:15.600
<v Speaker 1>The jade skirt pecall's net jade skirt is interesting in

2705
02:20:15.680 --> 02:20:19.360
<v Speaker 1>that the diamond weave is usually. Associated, with women indeed

2706
02:20:19.440 --> 02:20:21.799
<v Speaker 1>a very similar skirt seems to Be worn by pecaul's

2707
02:20:21.840 --> 02:20:25.360
<v Speaker 1>mother in a tablet Found In. The royal palace this

2708
02:20:25.440 --> 02:20:28.840
<v Speaker 1>may suggest, an androgynist combination just as the adult in

2709
02:20:28.920 --> 02:20:31.959
<v Speaker 1>the baby post suggests a combination of. Youth in age

2710
02:20:32.399 --> 02:20:35.239
<v Speaker 1>so this is his mom with the diamond, pattern jade

2711
02:20:35.280 --> 02:20:37.639
<v Speaker 1>skirt and this is them sitting together. In the palace but,

2712
02:20:37.760 --> 02:20:40.280
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind if this was supposed to be him

2713
02:20:40.559 --> 02:20:43.319
<v Speaker 1>being Symbolic Of, the maize god which is what this is.

2714
02:20:43.319 --> 02:20:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Supposed To Be the maize god being a dude oftentimes

2715
02:20:46.760 --> 02:20:49.680
<v Speaker 1>would wear the jade skirt, of a woman but he

2716
02:20:49.719 --> 02:20:51.440
<v Speaker 1>was also seen as. A fertility, GOD so.

2717
02:20:51.639 --> 02:20:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean uh and a lot of engine cultures

2718
02:20:54.319 --> 02:20:59.319
<v Speaker 2>talk about the balance between, masculine, and FEMININE right so

2719
02:20:59.440 --> 02:21:00.000
<v Speaker 2>i would.

2720
02:20:59.760 --> 02:21:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Make you have to add that balance in order, To

2721
02:21:02.399 --> 02:21:05.200
<v Speaker 1>make babies, so YOU know but i mean two.

2722
02:21:05.239 --> 02:21:07.639
<v Speaker 2>Genders, Out there well i'm talking about like just within

2723
02:21:07.680 --> 02:21:10.200
<v Speaker 2>the individual that you want to try and maintain the

2724
02:21:10.239 --> 02:21:14.879
<v Speaker 2>balance of your feminine aspects and. Your masculine aspects feminine

2725
02:21:14.959 --> 02:21:17.799
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily meaning that. Like you're gay i'm. Not saying

2726
02:21:17.840 --> 02:21:21.440
<v Speaker 2>that i'm saying like feminine aspects such, as like. Emotions

2727
02:21:21.760 --> 02:21:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Thrown estrogen. Oh, i'm talking well, we HAVE those we

2728
02:21:26.120 --> 02:21:29.680
<v Speaker 2>i mean, everybody has testostrogen. Testosterone and estrogen, but you

2729
02:21:29.719 --> 02:21:34.079
<v Speaker 2>know it's about maintaining the balance of like caring, and emotional,

2730
02:21:34.159 --> 02:21:37.360
<v Speaker 2>aspect you know for the for the feminine and then

2731
02:21:37.440 --> 02:21:40.360
<v Speaker 2>the masculine aspect would just be like taking care of. Fucking,

2732
02:21:40.399 --> 02:21:40.920
<v Speaker 2>bidding it.

2733
02:21:41.959 --> 02:21:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay fair. Enough fair, enough continuing on it talks about.

2734
02:21:45.719 --> 02:21:48.760
<v Speaker 1>The turtle emblem What you see pacall wearing right here,

2735
02:21:48.879 --> 02:21:51.600
<v Speaker 1>in that Iconography and if, i'm, not mistaken yeah he's

2736
02:21:51.600 --> 02:21:54.639
<v Speaker 1>also wearing it in the depiction of him On The

2737
02:21:54.799 --> 02:21:57.639
<v Speaker 1>rocket Slash. Tree of life he's wearing it right here, on,

2738
02:21:57.639 --> 02:22:03.040
<v Speaker 1>His chest right, so, that turtlee uh The turtle emblem

2739
02:22:03.159 --> 02:22:06.200
<v Speaker 1>pacall carries on his chest may be a reference to

2740
02:22:06.280 --> 02:22:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the rebirth of the maze god from the turtleshell as

2741
02:22:09.440 --> 02:22:12.559
<v Speaker 1>reference on this plate on, The side here so this

2742
02:22:12.639 --> 02:22:14.760
<v Speaker 1>is the turtle Shell where the maze gods being. Born

2743
02:22:14.879 --> 02:22:17.120
<v Speaker 1>out of but keep in mind they also thought that

2744
02:22:17.159 --> 02:22:19.879
<v Speaker 1>the world rested on the back of, the great turtle

2745
02:22:20.280 --> 02:22:21.639
<v Speaker 1>so that could also be a. Symbol.

2746
02:22:21.639 --> 02:22:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Of, That right yeah so let's see.

2747
02:22:25.680 --> 02:22:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Ancestors and nobles along the border on the outside of

2748
02:22:29.200 --> 02:22:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the image are references to celestial bodies and six portraits.

2749
02:22:32.799 --> 02:22:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Of leading nobles the coffin inside the sarcophagus is carved

2750
02:22:36.120 --> 02:22:39.600
<v Speaker 1>on all four sides With portraits of pacall's ancestors emerging

2751
02:22:39.639 --> 02:22:43.159
<v Speaker 1>as trees sprouting. From the earth painted stucco figures on

2752
02:22:43.159 --> 02:22:45.879
<v Speaker 1>the walls of the tomb echoed these references to relatives

2753
02:22:45.879 --> 02:22:48.079
<v Speaker 1>and important figures in the life of the leader who

2754
02:22:48.120 --> 02:22:50.600
<v Speaker 1>was laid to rest. In the tomb so now we're

2755
02:22:50.600 --> 02:22:53.879
<v Speaker 1>getting to. The writer's thoughts while some may find it

2756
02:22:54.000 --> 02:22:56.440
<v Speaker 1>harmless fun to see an alien astronaut instead of a

2757
02:22:56.440 --> 02:22:59.719
<v Speaker 1>famous leader immortalized, by his, tombstone for me it seems

2758
02:22:59.760 --> 02:23:03.040
<v Speaker 1>a little insulting to the people who created this amazing piece

2759
02:23:03.040 --> 02:23:07.600
<v Speaker 1>of complicated. And, beautiful ART so, like i said they're

2760
02:23:07.600 --> 02:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna have your haters that are basically seeing this and

2761
02:23:10.559 --> 02:23:13.079
<v Speaker 1>this whole image where, it breaks down how this is clearly,

2762
02:23:13.159 --> 02:23:16.760
<v Speaker 1>a rocket Ship right. The palanque astronaut he is saying

2763
02:23:16.799 --> 02:23:20.559
<v Speaker 1>that even looking at it in that perspective, is JUST insulting,

2764
02:23:21.440 --> 02:23:23.799
<v Speaker 1>which i, MEAN all right i guess that's one way.

2765
02:23:23.799 --> 02:23:25.360
<v Speaker 2>OF interpreting him i mean if you want to let your,

2766
02:23:25.360 --> 02:23:28.879
<v Speaker 2>IMAGINATION run rampant i would say that he probably this

2767
02:23:28.959 --> 02:23:32.600
<v Speaker 2>is this is somebody who, probably just thought, oh my,

2768
02:23:32.719 --> 02:23:35.079
<v Speaker 2>god you know the the ancient gods were giving us,

2769
02:23:35.079 --> 02:23:38.040
<v Speaker 2>all this technology and maybe. THAT'S the case. I don't,

2770
02:23:38.040 --> 02:23:42.000
<v Speaker 2>know i mean the ancient, gods slash aliens whatever you want.

2771
02:23:42.000 --> 02:23:45.360
<v Speaker 2>TO call them i found it interesting there at THE

2772
02:23:45.360 --> 02:23:48.239
<v Speaker 2>bottom that i wanted to, pull this up as at

2773
02:23:48.520 --> 02:23:53.040
<v Speaker 2>the bottom of that article it talked, about, blood letting.

2774
02:23:53.120 --> 02:23:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Sacrifice and rebirth so it doesn't doesn't even necessarily have

2775
02:23:56.520 --> 02:24:00.120
<v Speaker 2>to be through the use of entheogenics in order to

2776
02:24:00.120 --> 02:24:02.520
<v Speaker 2>be able to connect with. That other side so it

2777
02:24:02.639 --> 02:24:08.600
<v Speaker 2>says In, ancient meso America particularly, the maya civilization blood

2778
02:24:08.680 --> 02:24:12.280
<v Speaker 2>letting was a ritualized practice involving self inflicted cutting or

2779
02:24:12.280 --> 02:24:16.399
<v Speaker 2>piercing of the body. To release blood it serves diverse functions,

2780
02:24:16.440 --> 02:24:20.239
<v Speaker 2>within their societies so communicating with the, divine and, ancestors

2781
02:24:20.360 --> 02:24:24.159
<v Speaker 2>legitimizing power and. Ensuring Well being the maya believe the

2782
02:24:24.159 --> 02:24:26.280
<v Speaker 2>blood was a vital life force containing A part, of

2783
02:24:26.319 --> 02:24:29.680
<v Speaker 2>god's blood requiring it to be returned to the deities

2784
02:24:29.719 --> 02:24:32.520
<v Speaker 2>to maintain. The cosmic order in the. Act of burning

2785
02:24:32.520 --> 02:24:36.600
<v Speaker 2>the sacrifice blood symbolized the offerings transfer to the gods via.

2786
02:24:36.639 --> 02:24:40.319
<v Speaker 2>The rising, smoke, SO like yeah i just love learning

2787
02:24:40.360 --> 02:24:42.399
<v Speaker 2>about that, kind of shit just to see what they

2788
02:24:42.440 --> 02:24:45.159
<v Speaker 2>believed in back, in THE day and i just think. It's, so.

2789
02:24:45.239 --> 02:24:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Cool absolutely man so with all, this being said, good

2790
02:24:49.840 --> 02:24:52.959
<v Speaker 1>cult members you. Be the judge Go look up Pacall's

2791
02:24:53.239 --> 02:24:57.079
<v Speaker 1>tombstone or. Pacall's sarcophagus lid you tell us what you.

2792
02:24:57.200 --> 02:24:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Think about? It all right are we? Being crazy here

2793
02:24:59.760 --> 02:25:02.559
<v Speaker 1>is it clearly not a time machine or? A rocket

2794
02:25:02.600 --> 02:25:06.680
<v Speaker 1>ship is it clearly just a very specific and important,

2795
02:25:06.760 --> 02:25:11.159
<v Speaker 1>and you know ritualistic lid to show his. Death and

2796
02:25:11.239 --> 02:25:13.559
<v Speaker 1>rebirth i'm not saying it. Is or isn't to be completely.

2797
02:25:13.600 --> 02:25:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Honest with you jonathan has his. OPINIONS about it i

2798
02:25:16.200 --> 02:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>have my, opinions about, IT and honestly i don't think

2799
02:25:18.200 --> 02:25:20.760
<v Speaker 1>either of us are sold one hundred percent on. Any

2800
02:25:20.799 --> 02:25:22.639
<v Speaker 1>of it so we want to hear what you have to.

2801
02:25:22.680 --> 02:25:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Say about it the best place to do that would

2802
02:25:24.760 --> 02:25:27.520
<v Speaker 1>be in. The commons SECTION but before i say all

2803
02:25:27.559 --> 02:25:31.360
<v Speaker 1>of that jargon, AND mumbo jumbo i, should also mention

2804
02:25:31.680 --> 02:25:33.920
<v Speaker 1>while we were talking about, this Whole thing the mayans

2805
02:25:33.959 --> 02:25:37.079
<v Speaker 1>and how they were using jade as such. A, significant

2806
02:25:37.120 --> 02:25:40.159
<v Speaker 1>resource right we also cannot sidestep the fact that they,

2807
02:25:40.200 --> 02:25:42.879
<v Speaker 1>were using gold a. Lot of gold this was a

2808
02:25:42.920 --> 02:25:45.639
<v Speaker 1>big Thing in the mayan Culture and. The aztec cultures

2809
02:25:45.920 --> 02:25:47.879
<v Speaker 1>and if you want to look across, the entire world

2810
02:25:48.000 --> 02:25:51.479
<v Speaker 1>every culture and civilization has used gold and silver to.

2811
02:25:51.600 --> 02:25:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Be important materials whether, it's for money whether, it's for

2812
02:25:55.000 --> 02:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>jewelry whatever, the case was we still see gold and

2813
02:25:58.159 --> 02:26:01.360
<v Speaker 1>silver as very important pressure metals that are worth some.

2814
02:26:01.559 --> 02:26:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Very high dollar gold right now is over three thousand.

2815
02:26:04.280 --> 02:26:06.399
<v Speaker 1>Dollars an ounce silver is a little over thirty five.

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02:26:06.440 --> 02:26:08.120
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<v Speaker 1>we want to hear what you think about. This whole conversation?

2836
02:26:52.760 --> 02:26:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Are we crazy is? The archaeologist crazy is? The hater

2837
02:26:56.559 --> 02:26:58.719
<v Speaker 1>crazy tell us what you think about it in the

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<v Speaker 10>Jonathan's other show and getting the same lever of respect

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02:27:18.559 --> 02:27:19.639
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