Speaker 1: Oh, Glory Day. I am one of the few who was.
Speaker 2: Able to go to the Marines.
Speaker 1: The AMC theater on Wednesday, August twenty eighth and get
Speaker 1: myself a Batman bat signal popcorn bucket.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if I've ever seen you as
Speaker 2: motivated as you've been this week, both with your activity,
Speaker 2: your day with Raffie, and then also you know, trying
Speaker 2: to coordinate getting that Batman popcorn bucket.
Speaker 1: Yes, the showtime for the movie that I was taking
Speaker 1: my son to on that Wednesday was twelve thirty. I
Speaker 1: knew that the movie theater opened at noon. I was
Speaker 1: there at eleven fifty nine, ready to go. I got
Speaker 1: my bucket. They said, oh, we also have these cups,
Speaker 1: a commemorative Batman cup by the way, they're celebrating the
Speaker 1: eighty fifth anniversary of The Dark Night. It's a pretty
Speaker 1: sweet cup. I'm going to show these both off when
Speaker 1: I'm at home, and I can do that. But it's
Speaker 1: the popcorn bucket. It's a bats said. No, you can
Speaker 1: open it up, you can put popcorn in there, you
Speaker 1: can flash it with a light on. It's quite stunning
Speaker 1: if you ask me. And then the cup if you
Speaker 1: turn it ever, so it shows you the bat signal
Speaker 1: and then it shows you the batmobile that goes with
Speaker 1: said signal.
Speaker 2: It's a nice little old day you had there really
Speaker 2: really rounded you out, and now finally your your home
Speaker 2: collection is complete.
Speaker 1: Having said that, as I was walking to the theater
Speaker 1: with my son to see Inside Out Too, It's a
Speaker 1: cute little movie, I noticed that a worker was taking
Speaker 1: apart the Deadpool and Wolverine cardboard cutout thing that you
Speaker 1: can take a fuck yeah, the stand up, and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you plan on doing with those? And they
Speaker 1: said I'm gonna throw these away? So I said can
Speaker 1: I have them? And they said, I don't care.
Speaker 2: Now explain to me how you what happened next? Did
Speaker 2: you have to now go back to your vehicle put
Speaker 2: me in your car that is going to go back
Speaker 2: to the theater.
Speaker 1: So I had already gone back and forth to my
Speaker 1: vehicle once to put my Batman popcorn bucket in my
Speaker 1: car right right then I came back and I did
Speaker 1: it again with the six foot five standis of Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackman and Ryan Reynolds that I now have at my house.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure what to do with what.
Speaker 2: Did your uh, your wife think think about those acquisitions.
Speaker 1: She hasn't seen them yet. So Hugh Jackman is in
Speaker 1: my office at the moment, he's standing the sitting behind
Speaker 1: my door. Ryan Reynolds Deadpool is in my attic. But
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that I can probably like use them to
Speaker 1: scare her at some point, right like she thinks is
Speaker 1: a big, physically imposing man in the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get a home aloner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm an a spooker. I'm gonna spooker. But what
Speaker 1: a day at the theater? One Goo three, Yeah, job three,
Speaker 1: King of Queen Marl Street.
Speaker 2: Enterta Goo and I'm Mac.
Speaker 1: And we are the hosts with the most Baby today.
Speaker 2: And anticipation for its sequel next week. We are discussing
Speaker 2: one of Goo's favorite movies of all time and quite frankly,
Speaker 2: one of the one of my favorite movies of my childhood.
Speaker 2: So this is two weeks a row we're doing this. Beetlejuice.
Speaker 2: That's right, Beetlejuice. This hit theaters on March thirtieth, nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty eight, and Goo, it made eight million dollars in
Speaker 2: its opening weekend. It actually made more on its second
Speaker 2: weekend because it picked up quite a buzz word of mouth,
Speaker 2: made eight and a half million on its second weekend.
Speaker 2: It's very rare for movie then, now or ever to
Speaker 2: make more in its second weekend, So that's quite the accomplishment.
Speaker 1: That is a podcast topic that I would like to
Speaker 1: do if we can figure it.
Speaker 2: Out, put it pin in that. Yes, it ended up
Speaker 2: making seventy three point seven million worldwide upon worldwide upon
Speaker 2: its initial release, Uh, it only made two thousand, nine
Speaker 2: hundred or two thousand and ninety nine dollars internationally.
Speaker 1: What was caught on your throat right then?
Speaker 2: I don't know who knows?
Speaker 1: I was like, I hope he figures this out.
Speaker 2: It made two thousand ninety nine dollars internationally, which what
Speaker 2: did it? One international theater have beatled juice?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think it can be shown in China
Speaker 1: because of the ghosts.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's like one hundred and ninety five other countries though.
Speaker 1: But which ones matter?
Speaker 2: It ended up being the tenth highest grossing film of
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight, and all that money was made gou
Speaker 2: off a budget of fifteen million dollars, So it like what,
Speaker 2: it's a tuppled. It's its budget there's ma Set or
Speaker 2: Quinn whatever that is. It made. It made a pretty
Speaker 2: penny for the box office. It's been re released a
Speaker 2: couple times since in celebration. I believe it got released
Speaker 2: in uh twenty eighteen for the thirty year anniversary. So
Speaker 2: there's that. Goo Beetlejuice is a PG rated comedy and fantasy,
Speaker 2: but a I ooh ugh. Is it a dark comedy,
Speaker 2: a dark fantasy, a quirky comedy, a supernatural fantasy. All
Speaker 2: of those things are listed. Not quite as fun as
Speaker 2: a c adventure, but some of those are deep. I
Speaker 2: like supernatural fantasy.
Speaker 1: Because I think that most of the comedy in this
Speaker 1: movie is pretty morbid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's more of a it's it's a pretty split,
Speaker 2: pretty split actually between like dark comedy and dark fantasy.
Speaker 2: It does a good job of that, So I won't
Speaker 2: I won't lean one way or the other.
Speaker 1: Like I enjoy it, but I could see how someone's
Speaker 1: like I don't really care for how they depict the
Speaker 1: dead or like, you know, sure, but that also leads
Speaker 1: me to questions. And this is a spoiler filled podcast, right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you have seen many of dead bodies, right.
Speaker 2: I would say many but I've I've been around a
Speaker 2: dead body or two.
Speaker 1: Now, you would think that Alec Baldwin and Geena Davis,
Speaker 1: their characters should have looked a little more ghoulish after drowning. Right, Well, no, because.
Speaker 2: It's it's a spiritual representation of them.
Speaker 1: It's not their act now, because when you go to
Speaker 1: the afterlife, people have slits in their throat, they're being hung,
Speaker 1: they're flattened, they're in bus accidents.
Speaker 2: If they just drowned, then it's really not that bad.
Speaker 1: Okay, That's why I asked you. That's why you're the expert.
Speaker 1: I have no issue with that. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: I'm asking.
Speaker 2: Sus sure, du this movie is a run time of
Speaker 2: ninety two minutes, ninety two Chris minutes, and honestly, it
Speaker 2: might have been able to be might have been able
Speaker 2: to even be like ten minutes shorter. There's there's some
Speaker 2: a couple of things you can get out of here,
Speaker 2: but in general, a really brisk watch.
Speaker 1: It is a get in, get out movie. And I
Speaker 1: would even say that I'm not even sure if it
Speaker 1: reaches the ninety minutes, if you're gonna take opening an
Speaker 1: end credits out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and actually before the end credits hit, I believe
Speaker 2: it's eighty nine minutes. So there's three minutes of credits
Speaker 2: at the end and a couple of minutes too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you point out that Michael Keaton is
Speaker 1: in less than eighteen minutes of this movie, look at
Speaker 1: percentage wise, he's in like most of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still twenty percent of the movie.
Speaker 1: The movie is twenty five minutes long.
Speaker 2: Goo on Roddy T's This is a very visually pleasing
Speaker 2: double eighty two percent from the critics and the audience.
Speaker 2: So eighty two eighty two, which I think is fair.
Speaker 2: That speaks to a little bit of what you're talking
Speaker 2: about about the morbidness and some of that. There's just
Speaker 2: a certain amount of a certain percentage of people that
Speaker 2: just aren't going to buy into what this movie is
Speaker 2: trying to do. And I think you could just say
Speaker 2: that about Tim Burton movies in general.
Speaker 1: But this is also before Tim Burton was known as
Speaker 1: being this Tim Burton. This was really the first one
Speaker 1: because Pee Wee's Big Adventure wasn't like this. This kind
Speaker 1: of set into motion. Edward Scissorhands.
Speaker 2: I think this Scissor Hands really sets the mood for
Speaker 2: what a Tim Burton movie or what you would expect
Speaker 2: from the Tim Burton movie seventy one on Metacritic as well,
Speaker 2: so again pretty well reviewed good. This movie is written
Speaker 2: by Michael McDowell, Larry Wilson, and Warren Scarin You really
Speaker 2: wouldn't know McDowell and Wilson. McDowell also wrote The Nightmare
Speaker 2: Before Christmas. Unfortunately he passed in ninety nine, a very
Speaker 2: young forty nine. Larry Wilson also wrote The Adams Family,
Speaker 2: the first one and The Little Vampire the Jonathan Lipnicki
Speaker 2: vehicle Vampire.
Speaker 1: I will say that the original script for this movie
Speaker 1: was written by McDowell and then Lawrence Senelik Sinelk. That's
Speaker 1: what I have here. I'm not sure how I spelt it.
Speaker 1: I'm apologizing here, But originally the character of Beetlejuice was
Speaker 1: supposed to be a murderous, winged demon who eventually kills
Speaker 1: Lydia to bring her to the afterlife. And it was
Speaker 1: supposed to have no comedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was also supposed to take a human
Speaker 2: form of a small Middle Eastern man. Yes, I saw
Speaker 2: that as a bit weird tidbit In the original.
Speaker 1: Tim Burton saw that and said, let's make this a
Speaker 1: dark comedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the third writer here Warren Scarin, you would
Speaker 2: know from Beverly Hills Coop two and also the writer
Speaker 2: on nineteen eighty nine's Batman, And unfortunately he passed just
Speaker 2: a year later in ninety at the age of forty four.
Speaker 2: So a couple rough ones there go. Obviously, this movie
Speaker 2: is directed by Tim Burton. You spoke about this a
Speaker 2: minute ago. Right before this movie, he makes Peewee's Big Adventure,
Speaker 2: and that's the movie that really puts him on the
Speaker 2: map and starts getting him opportunities like this one.
Speaker 1: Through my research, that is internet web videos, so on
Speaker 1: and so forth, I did see that Wes Craven was
Speaker 1: approached to direct this movie when it was more of
Speaker 1: a straight horror movie.
Speaker 2: Ah. Interesting, I suppose that that would be one of
Speaker 2: two people you would go to, Wes Craven or John Carpenter.
Speaker 1: They were the only horror directors at the time.
Speaker 2: Right after this, of course, he makes nineteen eighty nine's Batman.
Speaker 2: More recently, gou we saw Dumbo a few years ago
Speaker 2: and that movie straight up stunk. He has not made
Speaker 2: a movie since, and I don't know what's on the
Speaker 2: horizon for him, because there's nothing on his IMDb page
Speaker 2: as well. However, he has been involved in the Wednesday
Speaker 2: Show on Netflix starring Gena Ortega. I don't know. He's
Speaker 2: not the creator of the show, but he's directed some.
Speaker 2: I think he produces some, and he's still doing that
Speaker 2: going forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw that he was debating retirement after Dumbo.
Speaker 1: He didn't care for the results the work process of it,
Speaker 1: but Beatlejuice. Beatle Juice has reinvigorated him.
Speaker 2: Goose synopsis. The spirits of a deceased couple are harassed
Speaker 2: by an unbearable family that has moved into their home
Speaker 2: and hire a malicious spirit to drive them out. This
Speaker 2: movie stars Alec Baldwin as Adam Maitland. Geena Davis is
Speaker 2: Barbara Maitland. That was originally supposed to be Angelica Houston.
Speaker 2: Actually she dropped out due to an illness. Incomes Gena Davis,
Speaker 2: Catherine O'Hara as Diliadets Between this in a home alone.
Speaker 2: I've spent an awful lot of time with Catherine O'Hara
Speaker 2: during much.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I think. During the rewatch that
Speaker 1: was the character that really popped out to me is like,
Speaker 1: I really enjoy her. I've overlooked her in the past.
Speaker 2: I almost think they had too many She wasn't unhinged enough,
Speaker 2: you know. I wish there was a little bit more
Speaker 2: of her.
Speaker 1: Well, she couldn't be so unhinged with Otho there sure.
Speaker 2: Playing her husband is Jeffrey Jones as Charles Deets.
Speaker 1: I think that is my biggest issue watching this movie now,
Speaker 1: is they need to find a way to take him
Speaker 1: out of the movie and cgi in someone else.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't I don't mind him at all.
Speaker 1: Well, the issue is what he did off off the
Speaker 1: camera is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm not aware of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Give it a google, all right. It kind of affects
Speaker 1: the viewing.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, I was, I was not aware of the
Speaker 2: the mishap there, Yes, why not? As lydear?
Speaker 1: As lydear.
Speaker 2: This was her first big break goose. She was in
Speaker 2: a couple of things prior to this, but no one's
Speaker 2: ever seen those. Yeah, no one's ever heard of those.
Speaker 2: And also Heathers comes out almost exactly a year after this,
Speaker 2: so a good back to back. And then she's in
Speaker 2: Scissor Hands in the next year. She was sixteen during
Speaker 2: filming in this, and that's pretty impressive to think back
Speaker 2: on because like, yes, she's playing a team, but she
Speaker 2: feels like an adult in this role, and it's very impressive. Goo.
Speaker 2: Some of the other young eighties stars that were in
Speaker 2: consideration for this Sarah Jessica Parker, Brooks Shields, Lori Laughlin,
Speaker 2: Diane Lane, Justine Bateman, Molly Ringwall, Juliette Lewis, and Jennifer Conley.
Speaker 2: But the person that came in second they run her
Speaker 2: up for Lydia Deets was Alyssa Milano of course, was starring.
Speaker 2: And who's the boss at the time. Andy McEnroe is
Speaker 2: Jane Butterfield. She's the realtor.
Speaker 1: Ah, she sucks. Oh my god. That first scene. That
Speaker 1: was one that popped out to me too, of like, look, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys can't have a family. You shouldn't own this
Speaker 1: big house. Oh lady. They clearly just tried to have one,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what's happened recently with them because
Speaker 1: they talk about trying again, but like, that's what you're
Speaker 1: gonna bring up to them, is that, oh, you aren't
Speaker 1: able to have children, you should sell your house.
Speaker 2: Real low hanging fruit there. That's that's a tough one.
Speaker 2: She does play the role well, noh, you mentioned Othough
Speaker 2: played by Glenn Shattocks. He's great. He's like the interior
Speaker 2: designer you know, also does the seance thing.
Speaker 1: I would also like to point this out is that
Speaker 1: the interior design of the house after the deets is
Speaker 1: move in three months in. I think it looks quite snazzy.
Speaker 2: What's it like art decos?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like the look of it. And I also
Speaker 1: I love the look of the porch that they construct
Speaker 1: with like the siding of the.
Speaker 2: House, the wall but no roof.
Speaker 1: I think that looks dynamite.
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you totally in on Otho's design. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Sylvia Sidney plays Juno, who's there after life.
Speaker 1: She's also fantastic.
Speaker 2: She's very good, very good. And then other than that, Gou,
Speaker 2: I guess all you would need to know is Michael
Speaker 2: Keaton as Beetlegeis. That's right, beatle Geis.
Speaker 1: I was just going to ask you how do you
Speaker 1: say and spell the name?
Speaker 2: I so I like the way that Baldwin pronounces it
Speaker 2: when he first is reading the ad there beetle geis
Speaker 2: goo interesting. The thing to think about here, especially since
Speaker 2: he dies a couple of years after this. Burton originally
Speaker 2: wanted Sammy Davis Junior for this role, and that would
Speaker 2: have been really interesting if it was Sammy Davis Junior.
Speaker 1: So there was that the studio said no, and then
Speaker 1: the studio pushed Dudley Moore and Sam Kennison. Now I
Speaker 1: could see Kennison doing something similar. But the whole thing
Speaker 1: with Beatle Jews and Michael Keaton is that Keaton worked
Speaker 1: on this character and really shaped it into what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think once he was attached and once everyone
Speaker 2: saw what he was doing, they certainly gave him more freedom.
Speaker 2: And also because the idea of the character was ever
Speaker 2: changing anyways when they first developed it, I think they
Speaker 2: were happy to see him take it in that direction.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he was recommend David Geffen and then Keaton
Speaker 1: took inspiration for the Beatle Juice character from chop Top
Speaker 1: from Texas Chainsaw Massacre two.
Speaker 2: Goo. Here's a little background on the name Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice
Speaker 2: is a red super giant star in the constellation of Orion.
Speaker 2: It is usually the tenth brightest star in the night
Speaker 2: sky and after Rigel, the second brightest in its own constellation.
Speaker 2: It is a it is distinctly reddish, semi regular variable
Speaker 2: star who's apparent magnitude varying between zero and plus one
Speaker 2: point six, has the widest range displayed by any first
Speaker 2: magnitude star. Beetlejuice is the brightest star in the night
Speaker 2: sky at near infrared wavelengths.
Speaker 1: So how about that, good job, well done.
Speaker 2: The name Beetlejuice was derived from the Arabic job all right,
Speaker 2: all right, come on the hand of Orion.
Speaker 1: We don't need this podcast to be longer than the movie.
Speaker 2: Also, Aboriginal groups South Australia have shared oral tales of
Speaker 2: the variable brightness of Beetlejuice for over one thousand years.
Speaker 1: All right, So, because Keaton was only in about seventeen
Speaker 1: and a half minutes under eighteen minutes of this movie,
Speaker 1: he actually shot all of his scenes in two weeks.
Speaker 1: Oh not bad, Yeah, not bad, of course. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The second idonic iconic factor here other than Keaton is
Speaker 2: the music in score, composed by Daniel Yes and in
Speaker 2: It's such a big part, especially considering the titular characters
Speaker 2: barely on screen. The score in the in the music
Speaker 2: competition becomes such a you need that and in its
Speaker 2: own right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need that swelling And I was like, while
Speaker 1: watching it, like that, really that is what pops out
Speaker 1: to you. I think this is his best work on
Speaker 1: a score. I'm not saying soundtrack because Nightmare Before Christmas
Speaker 1: is more of a soundtrack. But I think this might
Speaker 1: be because you look at Peewee's Big Adventure, Batman, Goodwill,
Speaker 1: Hunting Flubber.
Speaker 2: Edward Scissorhans is pretty great too.
Speaker 1: It is big fish natchal libre. But I think this
Speaker 1: is this is where it's at.
Speaker 2: Man. He's also like, he did Silver Linings, Playbook agea Veltron,
Speaker 2: he did the Joss Whedon Justice League. He's been everywhere
Speaker 2: and done everything. He's obviously been been around.
Speaker 1: For Simpson's theme song.
Speaker 2: Fucking what a career. But to your point, just with
Speaker 2: the opening credits, that score over the opening credits is awesome.
Speaker 2: It sets the mood.
Speaker 1: It really does, because like it brings you into this
Speaker 1: small town, this everybody knows your name town, and you
Speaker 1: could also feel like if the music was a little
Speaker 1: less like bouncy, that could be the start of a
Speaker 1: horror movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, it does bring in the fun factor
Speaker 2: to it. The comedic factor played into the built in
Speaker 2: to the composition Goose speaking of that town, the fictional
Speaker 2: town is Winter River, Connecticut, and I will say anyone
Speaker 2: from the New England region would not believe it as Connecticut.
Speaker 2: It feels like Vermont. It feels like New Hampshire. And
Speaker 2: in fact, they shot this in a small town, the
Speaker 2: exterior shots anyways, in the small town of Corinth, Vermont,
Speaker 2: the population of fourteen hundred, so it was.
Speaker 1: A fourteen the population of fourteen fourteen.
Speaker 2: Hundred in a total area of forty eight square miles,
Speaker 2: So that's kind of crazy to think about. They also
Speaker 2: filmed the exterior shots for the upcoming sequel in the
Speaker 2: same town.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, and you know, we can also bring up
Speaker 1: Oscar Award winning movie.
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right, the Academy Award winner for Best Makeup.
Speaker 1: So there it is deservingly so. I think the makeup
Speaker 1: and the stomp motion clamation in this is it just
Speaker 1: it brings you back to that time of movie making too.
Speaker 1: And Burton, on that shoestring budget wanted it to be
Speaker 1: a bit of a B movie, but everything still feel
Speaker 1: I think, maybe just because of like the gross filming
Speaker 1: of eighties movies. It feels right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really, it's like quintessential eighties the way this
Speaker 2: movie feels and looks and go. It's it's funny to
Speaker 2: think about the Beetlejuice makeup and this is incredible, so
Speaker 2: much so that when I've been seeing trailers for the name,
Speaker 2: it looks.
Speaker 1: Better back then, right, it looked better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what's going on. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's too crisp now, but it looks better in
Speaker 2: the original.
Speaker 1: I think, And maybe I'm just missing it, but it's
Speaker 1: the mold around his face and mouth and the eye
Speaker 1: makeup also looked better back then too, like it blended better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, And maybe it's just a trailer issue.
Speaker 2: Maybe after what we've seen the movie we won't feel
Speaker 2: that way, But so far, it looks like the makeup
Speaker 2: for the original is superior.
Speaker 1: Let's also point out that Suicide Squad in twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: also won an Academy Award for makeup. And my final
Speaker 1: big notes before we get to any of the octagon
Speaker 1: or timelining, is that the movie poster for this flick
Speaker 1: fucking rules. It is so good.
Speaker 2: My final note before we how about.
Speaker 1: You respond to my final note really quick? Respond to
Speaker 1: how good? My note is, I want to know who
Speaker 1: was done by artist Carl Ramsey, who also did the
Speaker 1: movie poster for Caddy Shack two.
Speaker 2: How about that? How about that? It's a nice fun
Speaker 2: fact for you're.
Speaker 1: A welcome folks. Mac wanted to jump right past that.
Speaker 1: He didn't even care.
Speaker 2: My final note is, I am absolutely stunned that you
Speaker 2: and your wife have not cosplayed as Beetlejuice and Lydia
Speaker 2: from that wedding scene you know, with him in the
Speaker 2: in the good one or dark part. But I think
Speaker 2: it's purple and her in the red dress. I think
Speaker 2: that'd be a great Halloween costume.
Speaker 1: You know what, I agree? And then I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe my son could be the shrunken head guy or something.
Speaker 2: I also love. And I'll get to this in a
Speaker 2: few But like the aesthetic of the whole afterlife is
Speaker 2: like great.
Speaker 1: It's so good because like Beatlejuice is not in this
Speaker 1: movie until halfway through the movie, you go forty seven
Speaker 1: minutes before he is actually in the movie. Now you
Speaker 1: get him on the TV screen for a quick commercial.
Speaker 1: You hear him talking for a second, but you don't
Speaker 1: have him interacting with other characters until the forty seven
Speaker 1: minute mark. But it's still fun leading up to that
Speaker 1: because you're learning about these rules of the afterlife and
Speaker 1: seeing especially who is the civil servant there, civil servant,
Speaker 1: the civil servant, the old lady who smokes.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, the caseworker there, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Some of the Jake whatever Juno, the scene setting with
Speaker 1: her and going behind the scenes of like the filing
Speaker 1: and all that. Like, this movie, in its short amount
Speaker 1: of runtime, does such a great job storytelling.
Speaker 2: It tells you everything you need to know, and most
Speaker 2: of the BS, if there ever was BS in the
Speaker 2: story does. It does a really good job streamlining things,
Speaker 2: that's for sure, and it's interesting or encouraging, I should say.
Speaker 2: So this was just over ninety minutes. I believe the
Speaker 2: sequel is gonna be around one hundred minutes or something
Speaker 2: like that. I saw along either, so that's very encouraging
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: Shall we get to the nonagone.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: We should have done six because that's a spooky number.
Speaker 1: It's a satanic number, or six hundred and sixty six.
Speaker 1: I want to do six hundred and sixty six. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's do that fun factor. I love the
Speaker 1: whole look of this, I love the sound of it,
Speaker 1: I love the clamation of it. And anytime, and I
Speaker 1: know what we're talking about. When Beetlejuice isn't on the screen,
Speaker 1: how fun it is when he is on the screen.
Speaker 1: It's an all time character. And he is such a fun,
Speaker 1: quick talking voice all over the place. He's just so fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this isn't the most fun movie ever, don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong, no, no, no, but this movie sets out
Speaker 2: to have fun and it accomplishes exactly that. It's a
Speaker 2: pretty fun viewing. And I hadn't seen it in a while,
Speaker 2: and I had fun watching.
Speaker 1: It borometer, and I'm not gonna tell you that it
Speaker 1: isn't boring at some points, but it's in and out
Speaker 1: in less than ninety minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually think, you know, there's a little bit
Speaker 2: of a smidge of bore in the first thirty forty,
Speaker 2: but once we're finally into the afterlife stuff, it goes
Speaker 2: and it's a breeze.
Speaker 1: Also, just what a payoff? And I guess, so let's
Speaker 1: go to satisfactor. What a payoff of the first forty
Speaker 1: seven minutes. You hear the voice, you see the commercial,
Speaker 1: You're hearing all of the afterlife people being like, don't
Speaker 1: summon beetlejuice, and then when they finally do, it was
Speaker 1: worth the wait.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is pretty satisfying. But I do think it
Speaker 2: needs a little bit more after life stuff for the
Speaker 2: movie to be truly satisfying. And I'm hoping the sequel
Speaker 2: gives us that. But they really just dabbled. They stuck
Speaker 2: their toes in the afterlife stuff, and I wanted more.
Speaker 2: Back then, I wanted more, and now does It is
Speaker 2: a little bit of blue balls when it comes to that.
Speaker 1: Let me go to Halloween. That's a spooky word. This
Speaker 1: is a spooky movie. Has it waned over time? I
Speaker 1: appreciate different things from this movie with every watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hadn't again, I hadn't watched it in a while.
Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoyed this viewing. I had a lot of
Speaker 2: fun with it.
Speaker 1: Aw equator. Is this movie better or worse than Aquaman?
Speaker 1: It's way better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's much better. And dare I say, are we
Speaker 2: calling this now the aquatter world the water world?
Speaker 1: You know what, let's fucking do that Awquator is out.
Speaker 1: It is a what is it now? The equater World,
Speaker 1: the aquater World, the aquater World. Is this movie better
Speaker 1: than water Worlds?
Speaker 2: Is it better than water World?
Speaker 1: Or it took us almost five hundred regular episodes, but
Speaker 1: we've finally done it. We're switching. It's fine, the aquad World.
Speaker 1: When life gives you plemings, you make plemonade. And you
Speaker 1: could look at Otho doesn't get as much time, say
Speaker 1: as the titular character, or Juno doesn't get as much
Speaker 1: time as the titular character. Those two characters pop. But
Speaker 1: you have to give it to Keaton.
Speaker 2: This is like the most obvious plemonade case of all time.
Speaker 2: I know he's the titular character, but he's in like
Speaker 2: six scenes and every time he's on screen it's one
Speaker 2: of the better parts of the movie. So this is
Speaker 2: like so obviously Keaton.
Speaker 1: And when I had Pop Culture Pile Driver Rest in Peace,
Speaker 1: all right, they're in the afterlife now. When I had
Speaker 1: them on the show to do top ten Michael Keaton characters,
Speaker 1: this was number one. And he has a portfolio of
Speaker 1: some of my favorite characters of all time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to beat this one. Obviously, he was
Speaker 2: Bruce Wayne Batman as well. I think the most underrated
Speaker 2: one is his other guy's character.
Speaker 1: That was great, that made the list.
Speaker 2: It escapes me. That would be on my Rushmore as well.
Speaker 2: He's just when he's having fun. He's a really fun
Speaker 2: actor to watch do his thing.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if that was on my Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1: I know that I had Beatlejuice, Bruce Wayne Ray Kroc,
Speaker 1: and then I can't think of the fourth.
Speaker 2: I honestly think that's why we liked the Flash more
Speaker 2: than most people is because Keaton's having key and he
Speaker 2: carries it.
Speaker 1: Because that is one thing that does scare me because
Speaker 1: it's a spooky movie about Beatlejuice Beetlejuice is that Keaton
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to have the same energy, because the energy
Speaker 1: that he gives you in this movie is insane, and
Speaker 1: the commercials that we've seen, he doesn't seem to have
Speaker 1: that same quick talking, quick biting type of energy that
Speaker 1: we had here.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, something has seemed a little off. Hopefully
Speaker 2: after we have seen the movie, we don't feel that way.
Speaker 2: But the promotional stuff hasn't been the best.
Speaker 1: Pants ten City Excite bike Mania, what from this movie
Speaker 1: got you going, and I guess you would say Beetlejuice
Speaker 1: in action.
Speaker 2: Obviously, one of the most iconic movie scenes of all
Speaker 2: time is that dinner party scene. It's just it's so great.
Speaker 2: The song choice is amazing. That's up there, and then
Speaker 2: again the afterlife stuff. I love playing around that sandbox,
Speaker 2: even if it was just briefly. I am really really
Speaker 2: hoping the sequel dives into that more.
Speaker 1: The shrimp in that scene looks disgusting. It's a hand on,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a fucking glove, but it looks disgusting.
Speaker 1: But I do think he said, and he said, day,
Speaker 1: I do think that the final scene when Lydia summons
Speaker 1: him and it showtime. Yeah, that's boom right there.
Speaker 2: Great, it's a great, all time great meme or jift too,
Speaker 2: it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Max credit Union, who are you giving credit to?
Speaker 2: To me? This is pretty clear in this movie as well.
Speaker 2: It's whin on a Rider, a sixteen year old why
Speaker 2: not a rider giving a fantastic performance. Her performance, her
Speaker 2: character is the lifeline of the movie. It's what makes
Speaker 2: the movie works. And it's just it's very impressive to
Speaker 2: see someone that young putting on such a good performance.
Speaker 1: I would say Tim Burton because he shifted it from
Speaker 1: being a horror movie to what we now have. He
Speaker 1: changed the Beatlejuice character, letting Keaton work with the character
Speaker 1: to make it what it was. And then also, this
Speaker 1: is really where he built his He built his am,
Speaker 1: he built his god damn it aesthetic. I can't say
Speaker 1: it in a sentence, but this is where Tim Burton
Speaker 1: built his esthetic.
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you, So if you would look
Speaker 2: behind the camera, I think that's a fair answer. But
Speaker 2: I think this movie has a hard time working without
Speaker 2: a performance to the quality of Wyonos.
Speaker 1: For those of you target to the Mac and Goo party,
Speaker 1: we rate everything on a forty hot dog rating system,
Speaker 1: and Mac I will reveal that when we gave Richard
Speaker 1: Milhouse keef Our top fifty movies of all time, I
Speaker 1: did have Beetlejuice on my list. Now I will say
Speaker 1: this after a rewatch, I might not have it top fifty,
Speaker 1: but I do think it is top one hundred. To me.
Speaker 1: I love this movie. I love the look of this movie.
Speaker 1: I love the performances. I think that Keaton's role as
Speaker 1: Beetlejuice is one of my favorite cat characters. I love
Speaker 1: just that quick, manic energy that he gives us. This
Speaker 1: is truly the beginning of when we saw Burton become
Speaker 1: Burton behind the camera with these characters. For better or
Speaker 1: for worse. Lydia Diets is an all time character. Catherine
Speaker 1: O'Hara is also great in this. I'm not because I
Speaker 1: think we might have had this in our Mount Rushmore
Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty eight movies. It definitely is.
Speaker 2: It was up for vote, for sure.
Speaker 1: This is a tough one, but I do think that
Speaker 1: the way they're able to tell this story in under
Speaker 1: ninety minutes and just be so crisp, get in, get out,
Speaker 1: something needs to be said for that. The way that
Speaker 1: they're able to I'm not sure how this was even
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eight rated PG. This is not a
Speaker 1: PG movie. This is a PG thirteen movie. Even if
Speaker 1: you take out the cursing, just the dead bodies, it's
Speaker 1: a bit.
Speaker 2: More, oh just the subject matter. Yeah, sure it should
Speaker 2: have been PG thirteen.
Speaker 1: But the way they're able to slip this as a
Speaker 1: PG movie, get this under the censors, that's incredible too.
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I'm going thirty eight hot Dogs thirty nine.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's a forty. I think this
Speaker 1: is an absolute classic. It's kind of genre defining if
Speaker 1: you're looking at it, like I would say that Ghostbusters,
Speaker 1: dealing with more of like the horror comedy might do
Speaker 1: a little bit better. But this is up here of like,
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a horror adjacent movie, it's in
Speaker 1: the Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2: I think it's a good entry level.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That like, And we were talking about it the other
Speaker 2: day a little bit like when you would start introducing
Speaker 2: your son to these sort of themes and movies.
Speaker 1: After watching it, I really I cannot. I cannot show
Speaker 1: him this yet.
Speaker 2: No, you definitely know.
Speaker 1: I was like, within the first ten minutes, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I cannot show him this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You you are definitively higher on this movie than I.
Speaker 2: I watched this movie a ton as a kid. I
Speaker 2: really enjoy this movie. The pacing is great, the performances
Speaker 2: are great. Yeah, the score is great. Just really lacks
Speaker 2: it lacks a big uppercut punch. It's got a couple
Speaker 2: small jabs in there that I enjoy throughout. You just
Speaker 2: want more beetlejuice. You just want more afterlife stuff. You're
Speaker 2: you're happy to be introduced to this world in this story.
Speaker 2: I just think it's almost too simple at points. I
Speaker 2: think I have this at like thirty four maybe thirty simple.
Speaker 1: Stupid, Keep it simple, stupid.
Speaker 2: It's a really enjoyable movie, and if people love this movie,
Speaker 2: I obviously wouldn't be upset, But I have a hard
Speaker 2: time getting this remotely near the top fifty. To your point,
Speaker 2: you did give it thirty eight thirty nine. All of
Speaker 2: my top fifty is forty thirty nine and maybe a
Speaker 2: couple thirty eight slipped on there. But this isn't This
Speaker 2: isn't in that same territory for me. But I don't
Speaker 2: blame someone who has more interesting interests like you for
Speaker 2: liking this movie more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they could rework the wedding at the end,
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a little rushed. Well not
Speaker 1: only that, like just the you know she's only seventeen
Speaker 1: to like, if they could just re because so I
Speaker 1: think Beetlejuice at the beginning, like he was supposed to
Speaker 1: be a way worse character.
Speaker 2: She's sixteen playing like fourteen.
Speaker 1: She's playing seventeen. I looked it up.
Speaker 2: They don't say that at all in movie.
Speaker 1: So she's thirteen in the animated show. I did look
Speaker 1: that because I was I was like trying to figure out.
Speaker 2: It's more like the age she's trying to convey because
Speaker 2: she's worried about math test this that she's not driving either,
Speaker 2: So that screams to me, not sixteen.
Speaker 1: Look, obviously Beatles is a bad guy. Let's toss it out.
Speaker 2: What degree is he?
Speaker 1: That pad slash? He wants to get out of the afterlife.
Speaker 1: That's his great thing, right, that's the whole thing. All right?
Speaker 1: Shall we timeline a little bit?
Speaker 2: Sure? All right?
Speaker 1: I already mentioned how much I dislike the realtor. She's
Speaker 1: got to get out of their face. She's come on,
Speaker 1: just let them live their lives. But I also do
Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that within six minutes of this movie starting,
Speaker 1: our two main characters are dead yep.
Speaker 2: Six minutes, and we get introduced to the handbook for
Speaker 2: the recently deceased.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think recently diseased is what he says. So
Speaker 1: I think that is one of two or three of
Speaker 1: the best non Beetlejuice jokes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also love that they it's a great
Speaker 2: way to frame this movie or have a jumping off
Speaker 2: for this movie is to have that handbook for the
Speaker 2: recently deceased. Very simple but great idea to make this movie.
Speaker 1: Go Beetlejuice. We hear the voice nine minutes in. We
Speaker 1: Meet the Deets is twelve minutes in. Catherine O'Hara is
Speaker 1: just wonderful.
Speaker 2: You're oft by a couple minutes on those both eleven
Speaker 2: completely right, eleven thirty for the first peak at Beatlejuice,
Speaker 2: New Family moves into fourteen minutes?
Speaker 1: What did you watch it on? Are you watching a
Speaker 1: different movie than me? Oh? You know what the issue was.
Speaker 1: I was watching it on my phone and it only
Speaker 1: tells me how much time is left. So I was
Speaker 1: doing the math as I was doing and I wasn't
Speaker 1: watching on two. Well, go ahead fucking check my math then,
Speaker 1: so moving forward, all of my math is wrong. O though,
Speaker 1: is sixteen minutes in?
Speaker 2: Then I didn't put his timestamp.
Speaker 1: I have everyone's timestamp because this it's a crisp, fucking
Speaker 1: moving movie. Yeah, no, I really is.
Speaker 2: They move in they first entered the house fourteen minutes.
Speaker 1: And while they can't see them, I do like the
Speaker 1: scares that Baldwin and Geena Davis.
Speaker 2: Do here that they're attempting to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like so when Geena Davis is hanging in the
Speaker 1: closet and then she pulls her face off, that was
Speaker 1: the time when I said, my son can't watch this.
Speaker 1: My four year old can't watch this.
Speaker 2: Nope, he'll have nightmares forever. Gou Here's here's a thought
Speaker 2: I had while watching this. And I hadn't quite considered
Speaker 2: this before, even though it was probably subconsciously there did
Speaker 2: Why not a Ryder in this movie mold the interests
Speaker 2: of a whole generation. I think Lydia Deets molded the
Speaker 2: way we or our desires. Like Lydia Deets walked, so
Speaker 2: Aubrey Plaza could run Aubrey Plaza is just Lydia Deets.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, Winona Ryder recently talked about this of like
Speaker 1: and she's like, I don't want you to like think
Speaker 1: that I'm saying this, but like Lydia, the character I
Speaker 1: played was kind of like the original Emo that sure
Speaker 1: went in mainstream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's kind of what I'm talking And then
Speaker 2: you have a whole generation that kind of grew up
Speaker 2: on emo music in those types, and I think you
Speaker 2: could point back to her being one of the first
Speaker 2: examples of that.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. If you were to
Speaker 1: look at your house and you looked at the attic
Speaker 1: and you saw two unknown faces looking back at you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how would you respond?
Speaker 2: Oh, that would be interesting. Because I don't really believe
Speaker 2: in the afterlife or ghosts or anything like that. I
Speaker 2: won't subscribe to that. So if I was, I would
Speaker 2: think they were real people, I suppose, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: would be. I would be. I would be a little perturbed. However,
Speaker 2: because our attic is a pull down, unlike yours with
Speaker 2: actual stairs, they would have a hard time coming down
Speaker 2: to attack me, So I would I think I'd be
Speaker 2: prepared because I'd have to drop through the hole. You're
Speaker 2: in a different spot there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like my first reaction wouldn't be let me go
Speaker 1: check the attic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and actually, like this attic has stairs, yours does
Speaker 2: as well, so you could up in a similar situation.
Speaker 1: Let me also ask you this, have you ever encountered ghosts?
Speaker 2: Once again, I don't believe in them, So therefore, I
Speaker 2: think you could interpret that as I've never had a
Speaker 2: supernatural experience.
Speaker 1: I as I say, have you ever encountered anything spooky?
Speaker 2: In your life, not like when I was a kid
Speaker 2: I had nightmares, but like once you learn about stuff
Speaker 2: in subscribe to some science, I think you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: ghosts don't exist.
Speaker 1: Two things. Number one, do you remember when I told
Speaker 1: you once that during a fever dream, I saw a
Speaker 1: horse face demon at the foot of my bed and
Speaker 1: you just went right past it without responding.
Speaker 2: I don't recall that, and I don't know how I
Speaker 2: would or should respond to that.
Speaker 1: It spoke to me in a in a vibrating It
Speaker 1: was very very odd. I did not care for it.
Speaker 1: I was very very spooked. And now also my wife
Speaker 1: is spooked because my son has an imaginary friend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's convinced that it's a ghost. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: kids have imaginary friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never did. I don't know if my sister did.
Speaker 2: My younger brother did, though, I remember growing up he
Speaker 2: distinctly had an imaginary friend named Scoop, who they actually named.
Speaker 2: They got a family cat a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: they named him Scoop. Homage to the imaginary friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What I did is so he told us about it,
Speaker 1: and that I'm I'm like, oh, can you describe him
Speaker 1: to us? And then he told my wife every last detail,
Speaker 1: and she was getting like really really creeped out, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna hide that Hugh Jackman thing somewhere
Speaker 1: and really fucking creeper all late. I'm just biding my time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have you know, you need to put it
Speaker 2: like halfway in the doorway to your kitchen. So now
Speaker 2: she's going to the bathroom, she catches a glimpse.
Speaker 1: What I'm thinking is that she usually does really early
Speaker 1: morning workouts on Friday mornings. Yeah, I'm thinking of doing
Speaker 1: it tomorrow morning in the kitchen. I was gonna put
Speaker 1: it in the closet so that when she opens the door,
Speaker 1: it falls out. But guys, can you help me out.
Speaker 2: I think halfway stock an eye out your kitchen doorframe
Speaker 2: would be perfect.
Speaker 1: Okay, what I'm gonna do tonight, I'm gonna hide the
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman six Yeah, Brian, he's in a yells, you know,
Speaker 1: a scream. It's gonna be worth it, though, It's gonna
Speaker 1: be great. Go yes.
Speaker 2: Twenty four minutes into this movie, Lydia spots Adam and
Speaker 2: Barb up in the attic and they're confused because you're like,
Speaker 2: hold on, hold the fucking phone here. I thought we
Speaker 2: were invisible.
Speaker 1: Right, And then we get the beetlejuice commercial at that point,
Speaker 1: but then we go to the afterlife. And one thing
Speaker 1: that I do have an issue with is that Alec
Speaker 1: Baldwin draws a door on the bricks right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For some reason, when he is drawing the chalk on
Speaker 1: the top, when there is a very clear line to follow,
Speaker 1: he like goes way off the line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a kickflip a christ air off of that
Speaker 2: que I'm annoyed that he draws straight lines and then
Speaker 2: it opens jagged with the bricks. It should just open
Speaker 2: straight where he drew.
Speaker 1: I think it's because they ran out of budget on that,
Speaker 1: and that's the reason why they had to have the
Speaker 1: jagged bricks fair enough. And also what's he doing drawing
Speaker 1: the door handle on the left side. I hated everything
Speaker 1: about his.
Speaker 2: Maybe where they were it made more sense to open
Speaker 2: like that. You're right, though, You're right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is if they fixed the door,
Speaker 1: if they went in there and post and fixed the door.
Speaker 2: Forty Dog movie, forty Dog movie. Uh, I do like, how,
Speaker 2: what's the word, what's the word for not being scared,
Speaker 2: because that's what Lydia is in this movie.
Speaker 1: She approaches its son Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nonchalant. It's a good way of putting it. And
Speaker 2: so they go through the door. They're in the afterlife.
Speaker 2: I love the aesthetic in here. You see the shrink
Speaker 2: headed dude who I had a toy of when I
Speaker 2: was younger. I always remember that guy. It's like an
Speaker 2: iconic looking character. I do also like that the way
Speaker 2: they frame the afterlife is it's so backed up. It's
Speaker 2: this complex, like bureaucracy the way the real world is,
Speaker 2: and you have caseworkers.
Speaker 1: And it's like the DMV.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's super funny way to just put that
Speaker 2: little spin on it. It just it really works for me.
Speaker 1: I also think we get maybe the funniest line of
Speaker 1: the movie is when Juno is talking to our deceased
Speaker 1: friends there and she says, oh, this house seems pretty
Speaker 1: quiet here. Good thing you didn't die in Italy smoked
Speaker 1: us because Italians are loud, loud people. It's it's a
Speaker 1: nice joke, real nice joke. I do question what is
Speaker 1: the dad's scheme here? What he wants to do is
Speaker 1: sell real estate and make it a ghost town. Is
Speaker 1: that what he's trying to make money.
Speaker 2: I want to make it like a Salem, Massachusetts type
Speaker 2: of type of place with you know, obviously that haunted
Speaker 2: house as the main attraction and then you have other
Speaker 2: stuff down below on that on that main drag.
Speaker 1: But I also hate how so he's a he's a
Speaker 1: big money making guy, but for some reason he's like
Speaker 1: asking other PEO's like, oh, this will make me money, right,
Speaker 1: this will make me money, right. You should have a
Speaker 1: little more confidence.
Speaker 2: I also still love the look when they're shooting scenes
Speaker 2: in the shrunken model town, Like I love the way,
Speaker 2: like when they're digging them up that you can see cardboard, Like,
Speaker 2: I love that aspect to it. It's a great touch
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Beatlejuice is finally introduced forty seven minutes in
Speaker 1: halfway through the movie. He is great. We have him
Speaker 1: lifting the dress and then he does the jerk off
Speaker 1: motion too, which is so funny. And then you know,
Speaker 1: my favorite line of the entire movie is nice fucking model.
Speaker 2: And then we get to the dinner party scene fifty
Speaker 2: three minutes in iconic what two three minutes of cinema,
Speaker 2: it's you've seen it in all sorts of shit, all
Speaker 2: sorts of montages, and I just love, like, I don't
Speaker 2: know how they stumbled upon it. Maybe you have a
Speaker 2: fun fact here, but I love that they use this
Speaker 2: jump in the line Harry Belafonte song. It's just for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, it just fucking fits with the ascetic of
Speaker 2: the movie and the scene.
Speaker 1: And then we get to Robert Goulay. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that the original person was supposed to be here, but
Speaker 1: Robert goula Gulay.
Speaker 2: This might be the only movie I've seen Robert Goulay in.
Speaker 1: I had to check. I had to make sure it
Speaker 1: was Robert Goulay.
Speaker 2: I don't know if i've now that. You say that,
Speaker 2: you know? And yeah, because that Will ferrell sketch is
Speaker 2: a plus, one of the best he's ever done. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I don't I don't know if I can recall
Speaker 2: another movie I've seen Robert Goulay.
Speaker 1: Well, it was a joking the Simpsons that when they
Speaker 1: opened a casino, Robert Goulay was supposed to go there,
Speaker 1: but Bart kidnapped him and brought him to his treehouse casino.
Speaker 2: Oh good, big note I had here. This really pissed
Speaker 2: me off. Yeah, Lydia seems like a pretty bright young girl.
Speaker 2: She's not scared of anything. She is terrible at charades,
Speaker 2: really has no idea what Beatlejuice is trying to describe,
Speaker 2: not a single fucking.
Speaker 1: And also, uh, you know, not to get too far
Speaker 1: into this either, but the whole suicide thing at the end,
Speaker 1: I thought that was a bit of moving quickly for her.
Speaker 1: Obviously we don't know what her entire backstory is, but
Speaker 1: from to go from like like wanting to be in
Speaker 1: the afterlife with the ghosts, I don't know, move pretty quick.
Speaker 2: And this is sort of it's really bizarre that it
Speaker 2: is PG She's essentially writing a suicide out there towards
Speaker 2: the end, like that is pretty heavy stuff.
Speaker 1: No, and that's where I could see a lot of
Speaker 1: people having an issue with this movie, is that there
Speaker 1: is a lot of suicide jokes. Yeah, for sure, with
Speaker 1: you know, someone with their accident that they say with
Speaker 1: the risks or you see the people hanging constantly.
Speaker 2: They take it a little too lightly for sure.
Speaker 1: And then just the iconic ending with the ghosts in
Speaker 1: their wedding outfits, Beetlejuice in the red tuxedo.
Speaker 2: And this is in That scene is also a big
Speaker 2: reason why they won the Academy Award because they do
Speaker 2: a great job looks on like the ghoulish frail makeup there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so once again, this movie's cool.
Speaker 2: It's it's again. I couldn't tell you the last time
Speaker 2: I had rewatched it. I really enjoyed watching it this
Speaker 2: time through. I don't remember when we discussed it for
Speaker 2: a nineteen ninety eight to eighty eight. I don't remember
Speaker 2: what I said about it, but man, I have fond
Speaker 2: memories of this movie, and they were only confirmed by this.
Speaker 1: Viewing Max that could be anything. It could be a
Speaker 1: boat and jumping off of little Olie, off of the
Speaker 1: movie of Beetlejuice. This was a very popular movie with children,
Speaker 1: and when you have a popular movie with children, you
Speaker 1: sell merch. Yeah, there were so many toys for this movie.
Speaker 1: They were made by Kenner, and like there's like three
Speaker 1: or four waves of figures that came with this. And
Speaker 1: because you're dealing with these afterlike characters, these ghoulish, creative characters,
Speaker 1: you could really do anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always again I remember distinctly having the toy
Speaker 2: of the guy with the struck in head. Of course
Speaker 2: I had a couple Beetlejuice in the in the black
Speaker 2: and white sort of prison attire nearly. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I had him in the wedding suit, but I
Speaker 2: love the look of that too. Like that, What I'm
Speaker 2: really hoping for is this second movie at the very
Speaker 2: least really nails that aesthetic. And I feel like getting
Speaker 2: Jenna Ortega number one as Lydia Ditz's daughter was a
Speaker 2: great move. She just plays into that for sure. I'm
Speaker 2: just really hoping it looks and feels like the first movie.
Speaker 1: The figure that definitely pops out to me is one
Speaker 1: that I definitely had was the Showtime Beetlejuice with Rotten Radler,
Speaker 1: and that is the one where it's this step right up,
Speaker 1: step right up, and he has the circus tent on
Speaker 1: his head with the bas I absolutely had that I
Speaker 1: probably had. This is Shipwrecked Beetle Juice. It looks like
Speaker 1: Marty McFly, but his Beetlejuice. That's odd.
Speaker 2: You were also, you were in a good spot too,
Speaker 2: because being that your brother.
Speaker 1: Was Yes, my brother had a bunch of these yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was that was definitely nice to be
Speaker 2: able to have those.
Speaker 1: Jumping off of that as well. Let me do a
Speaker 1: little a grind if you will. There was an animated
Speaker 1: show that ran for three years after this movie. It
Speaker 1: had ninety four episodes. I think you could watch full
Speaker 1: episodes on YouTube. It might be on shout, but this
Speaker 1: was a very fun animated show that made beetlejuice. It
Speaker 1: softened the edges, you know when he's like when he's
Speaker 1: horny and he's got like the spikes on him. They
Speaker 1: grinded those right off. They shaved those right off, and
Speaker 1: they made him more of a more of a circle
Speaker 1: than a square, if you will.
Speaker 2: I distinctly remember watching that show. I couldn't tell you
Speaker 2: one thing about the show.
Speaker 1: So he's more of a hero, and it's him helping
Speaker 1: people in the afterlife, and he's helped by his friend,
Speaker 1: his twelve year old friend, Lydia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's an interesting thing to think about too.
Speaker 2: This movie ends with that sand worm devouring him, and
Speaker 2: I wonder what type of introduction they do in the
Speaker 2: second No.
Speaker 1: So, yes, the sandworm eats them, but it ends. And
Speaker 1: they did this on purpose because the fans loved the
Speaker 1: character is they brought him back to that waiting room.
Speaker 1: That's right, and then yeah, he's grabbing the legs. Do
Speaker 1: you know whose legs those were? No, I forget the
Speaker 1: person's name, but it's Tim Burton's girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 2: Oh. I so think of the spookiest eighties woman and
Speaker 2: it was her. How long did him and h what's
Speaker 2: your face date for?
Speaker 1: Oh? I can't think of it.
Speaker 2: Ellatrix there they were together forever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, this is it's a great movie. Guys,
Speaker 1: go check it out.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's if you haven't watched it in a while,
Speaker 2: it's it's a it's a I think, an easy recommendation
Speaker 2: because it holds up and it's quick, under ninety minutes.
Speaker 1: Also in your sack. Not to get too far into
Speaker 1: my personal life, but I live in a suburb of Boston.
Speaker 2: And uh, well, you live in Boston.
Speaker 1: I technically do, but it's not Boston Boston. I when
Speaker 1: I say that I'm from Boston, they're like, oh, are
Speaker 1: you really from Boston? I say where I'm from and
Speaker 1: they're like, it's not not really Boston. Whatever.
Speaker 2: You're like, You're like, if there's no traffic, you're like
Speaker 2: six minutes from downtown.
Speaker 1: Oh, I pretty much. I live on the Highway but
Speaker 1: coming up where I live is something called Allston Christmas
Speaker 1: where the students and everyone that are moving out of
Speaker 1: their apartments put all of their trash on the sidewalk
Speaker 1: for other people to take. Like say, if someone wants
Speaker 1: a soiled mattress, this is the time to get it.
Speaker 2: The only PSA I'll have here. I got this is
Speaker 2: for my eleven years in past control of ten years.
Speaker 2: Whatever I did, do not take any furniture out of
Speaker 2: the trash. It is probably the easiest way, especially in
Speaker 2: Austin Brighton, to bring bed bugs into your house. Stay
Speaker 2: away from that shit please.
Speaker 1: I would argue that I want this day canceled. I
Speaker 1: want I hate this day.
Speaker 2: It's it's no, it's not by choice. It's because the
Speaker 2: changeover of the apartments are nine to one, so you
Speaker 2: got to move out.
Speaker 1: You can do, you can plan.
Speaker 2: It's not by choice at all.
Speaker 1: You can plan. Be or when putting all of your
Speaker 1: garbage on the sidewalk. Mac, I live in a place
Speaker 1: that is just overtaken by rats.
Speaker 2: It's a bunch of people in their teams in twenties
Speaker 2: that number one can't afford storage places for in between,
Speaker 2: and number two don't give a fuck that. It's always
Speaker 2: until your neighborhood becomes gentrified. This is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: For uh, bring in more rats, then let the rats
Speaker 1: run free, let them do whatever they want. Then I'm
Speaker 1: dodging rats on a constant basis, every single day, every
Speaker 1: single night. I need to, and like, they don't bother me,
Speaker 1: so I don't bother them. They do bother me. They're
Speaker 1: fucking understanding. We have an understanding. But like I'm constantly
Speaker 1: like walking from my driveway to my back door and
Speaker 1: rats just cross right just right in front of me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's just a nature of living in
Speaker 2: that neighborhood. You just you just hope they don't enter
Speaker 2: your domain and you take care of them on the outside.
Speaker 1: As long as they stay out of my house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will, for the most part leave them alone. But
Speaker 1: I will ask people to stop putting things out where
Speaker 1: they can live in.
Speaker 2: Or eat or agreed.
Speaker 1: But Austin Christmas is so cute. It's just such a
Speaker 1: cute day.
Speaker 2: Look at all the Google.
Speaker 1: This stuff you can take. It's all trash, yeah, garbage, it's.
Speaker 2: Bedbug ridden, it's gross. Don't touch it.
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Speaker 2: What would be your first haunt? If you had to
Speaker 2: haunt someone.
Speaker 1: I'd probably do it. I'd probably do one of my buddies.
Speaker 1: But that's a joke because I think it no funny.
Speaker 2: Method, not personal.
Speaker 1: Fuck.
Speaker 2: I think i'd start simple. I would I would uh
Speaker 2: open all of the kitchen cabinets.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: I'm smack it back and forth.
Speaker 1: Maybe I would stand on one side of the door
Speaker 1: and I would take a blow torch and I'd really
Speaker 1: heat the handle up so the person burns their hands.
Speaker 2: That's a good haunt, right, Yeah, that's a really funny.
Speaker 1: I would light someone's house on fire. Is that a
Speaker 1: good hot?
Speaker 2: Third degree? Burn them?
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Speaker 1: would you What would you do for your first haunt?
Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it. For this episode of Mac
Speaker 1: and Goo, check us out next week for Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice
Speaker 1: Tuesdays or Goose Days. I Abuse Kangaroos, Barton tam tam Burn.
Speaker 1: Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue
Speaker 1: the adventure. Now it's not for girls jumping on trampolines