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Now let's dive into today's episode. I like to welcome

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to the show, Jason Janis Heyden.

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Speaker 2: Jason, I'm fantastic. How are you are.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, brother, Thank you so much for making

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the trip down to the Next Level Soul Studio.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you again for having me. I'm truly honored.

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Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. My friend. So, we've been having a

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lovely conversation prior to the recording, So I was like,

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let's just start talking because this is gonna be fun.

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So you died, I do, so tell me, no, So

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what you tell me a little bit about what you were,

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what was life like prior to your nd and then

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we'll go deep down this lovely journey that you went

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through once you died and came back.

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Speaker 2: Sure, you know, as a young boy, I grew up

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in a completely totally normal, you know, midwestern town in Illinois,

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as a normal nineteen seventies boy. You know my address?

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I didn't know it at the time was ten ten,

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so I was That didn't dawn on me until later.

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But I grew up as just a Catholic kid. My

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grandparents gave me my religion because I don't know anything

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if my parents were religious at all. I never some

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god a church. I never had any interactions with them

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in church. It was my grandparents. I gave it to me. So,

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you know that Christianity was what I grew up on.

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So as a young boy growing up, that's what I

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was taught, and I believed truth of what I was

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being taught because you know, why would your parents or

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grandparents lie to you.

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Speaker 1: I would just say, you know.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's the background that I had in that.

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You know, I had a very difficult life. I was

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abused as a child, so I grew up with that.

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I grew up with a lot of resentment hate. I

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tried to save my sister from the beating, so I

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took more beatings for her. My mother was a hardcore alcoholic,

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and it was just an unpleasant childhood. So I became

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very angry at a very young age. You know, I

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learned how to cook early by the time I was

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five or six, because meals were irregular at times. So

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I learned how to cook from my grandparents. I learned

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everything from my grandmother. That's how I grew up. But

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I didn't realize that I was becoming more and more angry. Right,

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God clearly doesn't love me. Clearly, right because the struggles

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that I'm going through are like PhD level. Instead of

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having cookies and ice cream and all this fun, I'm

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being beaten and learning how to take care of things

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and learn how to clean and all that. Like you know,

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I mean I still had fun as a kid and

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did you know, riding bikes and going to the pools

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and stuff like that, but I was really in survival mode.

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Speaker 1: Can I jump in here because this is something really

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really important I want to kind of dive into before

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you continue. Sure you were talking about that God doesn't

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love me anymore. There's so many people, especially Catholics. I

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was raised Catholic, as you know that when things are

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when their lives are not going well, or if it's

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a consistent pattern of like my God, I was raised

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by abusive parents or had trauma as a child or

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something like that, or even as an adult, that things

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just keep having it just keep pounding, like life keeps

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pounding you, and you're like, I go to church, I

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do everything I'm supposed to do, and yet I'm not

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getting to where I need to be or where i

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want to be, And and then you start getting angry

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and angry and angry, or to the point where you're like,

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God doesn't love me anymore, which, as I say that

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out loud, is such a ridiculous concept, because He loves

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everything right. He loves everybody, he loves everything because he

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made everything right. There there's no there's no mistakes exactly,

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there's not one, not one single waste of a I mean,

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if you look at just nature's ecosystem, everything works together,

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even though we might not see it right, but we

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but there is a system going on. So I just

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wanted to kind of bring that to the spotlight a

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little bit because so a lot of people watching this

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might have the exact same feelings that.

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Speaker 2: You do, right, and I'm sure there are, because a

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lot of us chose very difficult lives and in the

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life of a chosen one, our star seed, a light bearer,

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God ask us for very difficult missions. Because you're the

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bringer of light in darkness. What does light do to

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the dark, it crushes it. When it's on right, there

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is no darkness. So the light bearers, us star seeds,

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are meant to do that, to bring the light into

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the darkness and crush it. Be that love, be that

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beacon of light. When somebody sees you, they may not

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agree with your energy. Most people don't like me at all.

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I mean, when I was sitting in the airport, people

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just flew from where I was sitting. They want to

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have nothing to do with me. Why I'm a mirror.

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I'm shedding the light on their darkness, and they don't

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like it. Right, they don't understand it. I do. But

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that's why I had that difficult childhood. But I didn't

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know it at the time. I just thought I was unloved,

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you know. And it became more and more time it

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became anger. Right Then, one morning I was about seventy

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eight or seventy nine, so I was about eight or nine.

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My grandmother woke me up to go to church, and

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I come on, Jason, it's time to wake up, and

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she you know, and I kicked her hard and I

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sat up and I said, don't you ever wake me

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up to go to church? Don't you ever? God hates me,

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he doesn't love me. And she knew, and she started

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to cry. Chase, I said, don't you ever, I'll take

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care of myself. God doesn't love me anymore, you know.

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And I mean I was an altar boy. She she

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took me out of public school, put me into Catholic school.

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So I read that Bible from cover to cover, and

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I knew I was doomed. You know. I had some

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sexual experiences as a younger person, with you know, a

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bisexual experience. I was an abomination to my father. Clearly

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he hated me, the abuse and everything. So I was like, clearly, okay,

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I know where I'm doomed. I know where I'm going,

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and said, don't you ever wake me up? Right? And

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I had a very difficult life, I mean, robbing Peter

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to pay Paul throughout my entire life, two failed marriages,

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you know, a child that didn't love me at the

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time or didn't care about me. And I'm like, clearly

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God doesn't care, you know. And I know, and I

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guess I've accepted my fate, you know, because I believed

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in what I was taught. I believe that the Bible

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was God's very breath has written word, you know, because

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that's what Christianity shoved down my throat for years, of course,

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you know. And I choked on it and I believed

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on it. And then April second of twenty twenty came,

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which profoundly changed my life and set me on this

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path of teaching that I will not stop.

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Speaker 1: So what happened in that date.

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Speaker 2: April second was the day of my death. I came

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home from this job I didn't like. I made a sandwich,

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took a shower, and made a sandwich, sat down. It

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was a bagel sandwich. I turned on the TV and

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I was watching TV and I took a couple bites

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and also I threw up, and I'm like, that was

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the most wretched taste. It didn't even taste like eggs

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and what I was eating. And I'm like, God, what

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was that?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: And I was having difficulty breathing. And I was waking

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up for the last couple of weeks with the taste

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of blood in my mouth. No, And I'm like, did

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I bite my tongue my lips and no, nothing hurts,

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you know, And I'm like, what is And then I

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went to take another bite and I coughed and up

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came bright red blood and I'm like, not, you know,

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when you cut your finger and it's dark red. This

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was pink. And I'm like and I'm like and I'd

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cough again. And I kept coughing at like every two

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or three seconds, and I filled up my plate full

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of blood, this pink blood, and it was horrible tasting.

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I remember that, and I'm like, next thing I know,

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I'm going, I'm I can't breathe, and I'm starting to panic,

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like life is going on around you and I'm actively

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dying and I'm like pan And I grabbed my cell

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phone and I'm trying to get a hold of my

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ex wife and cause she's a nurse and RN if

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anybody can help me, she could.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, I need your answer the phone, and.

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Speaker 2: She wouldn't answer the phone. And finally, on this you know,

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fourth or fifth try, I was facetiming and I had

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made it to the kitchen sink because now I'm filling

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up the kitchen sink with this blood, and she's like,

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what do you want? And I tried to speak and

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blood covered the phone and I just remember her. One

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of the last things I remember was like Jason, and

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I said, I don't feel good. You know what I'm

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you know, and I'm trying to breathe and you know, coughing,

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and she goes. I said, I'm sorry. I'm going to

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go lay down. And she said, Jason, if you lie down,

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you're going to die. And I said, I said, I

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don't feel good. I'm tired. I said, I'm just I'm

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sorry to bother you. And I'm still coughing up this blood.

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She says, Jason, if you lay down, you're going to die.

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Please don't lay down, And I said I and she

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hung up the phone. And that's the last thing. I'm like, Wow,

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you know? And I was like, and next thing I know,

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I wake up in the hospital.

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Speaker 2: And she must have dialed nine one one and they

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came in, but you were out. I was, I have

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no clue of the ambulance or anything. And there was

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a tube down my throat ivy in the carotid artery.

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My hands and feet were strapped to the bed. I

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couldn't move them more than an eighth of an inch, right,

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stuff up my nose in a myriad of doctors. Now

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it's dark out. I have no idea what day it is,

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what what had taken place, how long I was gone

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or out? And I have these doctors trying do you

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know who you know? Who are you? Do you know

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your name? And I'm I can't speak, I can't even

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move my you know, and you're like, do you know

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where you are? Like trying to answer questions, but I

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have a two inch tube, you know, And I'm like.

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Speaker 1: It's lovely when they do.

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Speaker 2: That was the most brutal experience of my life. It

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was when you see actors going through this on stage

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and they just jump up and they're what, no, no,

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you don't do that. It's brutal. It was the most

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excruciating pain I've ever been in. Dying was very painful.

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I was drowning. Basically, my cause of death was a

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cute respiratory failure hypoxia, so I basically they pumped out

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two point eight liters of blood from my lungs. That's

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eleven point eight cups of blood. So I drown.

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Speaker 1: So is this after you woke up or this?

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Speaker 2: This was I woke up after so I when I

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was facetiming her, she hung up called nine to one one,

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and I don't I must have passed out somewhere in

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either the kitchen or somewhere I don't know, so she

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they came and got me in.

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Speaker 1: But you weren't dead yet. No, okay, So.

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Speaker 2: All I remember then was blackness, just black.

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Speaker 1: You were out.

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and this is where the ND took place, when I

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don't know, I'm assuming a few days later, right, what

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had to be a few days later. So I said,

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you know, I was trying to say something, and I

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was like, she goes, you won't pull the tubes and

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stuff outing, And I said, you know, so I made

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this like you want to write something, I'd write I itch,

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just you know, because they were giving me a Ventanyl

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for the pain. No, it wasn't. I know, I know

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what you're saying. But the I you know, when you

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see somebody like a coma state, their mind is fully active. Okay,

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you're I mean I was having horrific hallucinations or you know,

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like I was being kidnapped and dragged and all these kinds.

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my life. So I'm like, I itch, and I just

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started scratching my body and they're like, Okay, he's not

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going to do it. And I just laid there and

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I the moment I awoke though up in the left

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hand corner of where's a TV? And I didn't know

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that the ICU was roomed, so they put me in

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a different room. But right where that TV was there

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was an undeniable presence. I could feel it, you know,

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and it was strong and it was loving, and I

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just it to go there, and I kept trying to

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peek through the myriad of doctors. Then one day a

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nurse came in and said, Jason, do you want me

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to turn on the TV for you? And I'm no,

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There's somebody right there. Okay, They're gonna think I'm nuts, right,

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And I'm like no, you know, And I just kept

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staring at the TV. And if I get emotional on you,

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because I am gonna tell you exactly the way it happened,

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and I'm already feeling it. So the nurses were gone,

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everything was gone, and they had finally taken the tube

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out and the IV and stuff like this. And it

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was some like early afternoon, I don't know what day

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it was, and I'm staring at the TV. There's nobody around.

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And by this time I was so lethargic. I had

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lost seventy five pounds, okay, so I was very weak.

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I couldn't move my hands very much. But I got

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up on my elbows and I just began shaking, uncontrollable

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because I had no strength. Now, this is the first time, Alex,

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since nineteen seventy seven, seventy eight, that I talked to God.

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I abandoned him. I threw him out like garbage. I

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threw Jesus out like garbage. And I stared at that

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TV because that presence was there, and I just I

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called out to God. I said, please don't let me die.

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Please don't let me die. I had no business talking

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to him, you know, with the things that I have

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done in my life, I knew I was unworthy of him.

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And I called out to him and I said, please

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don't let me die. I love you, I said, I'd

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never stop believing in you, but I quit having a

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relationship with you, and I'm truly sorry.

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Speaker 1: I said, I love Jesus.

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Speaker 2: I said, I love you both. And I said, please

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don't take my babies from me, please, And I'm feeling

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unworthy of him, and I said, please let me see

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them again. Please let me see them again. Because I

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knew I was still dying. Something inside told me that

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I was not done with this, and I wasn't. And

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I said there was somebody in my life that which

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is a twin flame. But I won't mention her name yet.

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I said, please don't take her from me. Please, please

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let me hold her hands, let me kiss her, let

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me smell her breath. Let's make love again. And in

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that moment, I was at the top of the ceiling

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and I was in constant and I could see everything

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around me, the nursing station, all thirty other patients on ventilators,

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dying has gone, pain is gone. I was young again.

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I was juiced, and I was vibrating at such a

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high frequency, in constant this love and this light, and

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I knew that I was God.

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Speaker 1: I that was there.

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Speaker 2: I was like wow, you know, And I was in

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constant this love, and I knew that I had done

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nothing wrong and that I was loved. For the first

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time in my life. I was loved unconditionally. There was

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no if, hands or butts, nothing. I was at peace

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at utter piece, and I knew exactly where I was,

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exactly where I was, and the thought came into my mind.

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It was an instant. I was like, I'm home, and

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I'm just looking outside, and I could see I was

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up on the third or fourth floor. I could see

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the entire floor. I could see through the wall, so

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I was seeing through the wall, and I could see

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every blade of grass in the field, every blade of

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grass independently. I could see the serrations in each blade

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of grass. I could see the veins, and I could

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see the colors moving through and then they turned towards

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me and sent me all of this unconditional love. I

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could see all the trees souls and it looked like

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Obi wan Kenobi when he came back. He had the

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little halo right, this little white light around it, all

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their souls and they were so happy to see me.

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And the colors that I was witnessing were just magnificent

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and beautiful. They just don't exist here in this realm.

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They don't. And I am just feeling this unconditional love

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flow through me. It was as warm as the sun,

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and it flowed through me like a river. Right, and

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then the next thought that came in and before I

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could get it formed, it was like, what a beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Day to die?

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Speaker 2: It was like I have done it before. That's exactly

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what it was. It was just an absolute knowing that

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I had done this before. It was absolutely normal. And

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that was that. And then how long this took, I

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don't know. It could have been ten seconds, it could

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have been five hours. Right, time ceased to exist because

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time doesn't exist, and I felt another presence come to

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me and my gaze which isn't a gaze because I'm

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looking down at a body on the bed that I

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had no love for, but it was like at twelve

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o'clock because I was looking that way, and then all

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of a sudden, I still look in that way. It's

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hard to describe, you know what I'm saying, Three sixty

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degree visions. So I'm facing forward and that's when Yeshaha

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showed up and I instantly recognized his energy and he

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bestowed love upon me that it is unimaginable to anyone here.

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So I'm feeling Father's love I'm feeling this love and

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it's almost the best word to describe it would be stifling.

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It was so much love and I was adored unconditionally,

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and it was just the most profound and beautiful experience.

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And I'm thinking I shouldn't be here, right I I

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you know, I was lied to right So again, how long?

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How long this took? I don't know that I'm you know.

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Then I felt, yeah, it will come up to me

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and he what was my soul? He placed his hands

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on me very gently and loving, and they seemed so huge,

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and they were so warm. It was everything was warmth

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and love, you know. He played and he guided my

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soul back and then I felt him on my body

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and then he lay gently laid me down on the

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bed and I was out like a light, like gone.

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And then I woke up at how long again, I

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don't know, but a myriad of doctors shaking me. Jason, Jason, Jason,

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and we've been trying to wake you for hours, you

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know what? What it seemed like, you know, And I'm like,

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and the presence was gone, and I'm like I'm looking

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at They're like okay, and I'm like, I can't tell

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them just what happened?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what was that?

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Speaker 2: What? What just happened?

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Speaker 1: So? Were you? Were you dead?

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Speaker 2: My body was?

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Speaker 1: Your body was So then when they say they're trying

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to wake you, it's like, right, you coded.

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Speaker 2: Right, So just there, you know, and somehow, well I

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came back because they pushed my soul back into my

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body and I woke up, and you know, the doctors

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were there to bring in medical equipment and stuff, and

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they're like are you okay? You know, and I'm like, yeah,

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I'm fine. Well where you know? They were like what happened?

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And I'm like, I can't tell you that. You know,

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I felt something. I knew that they would think I

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was nuts and you know and all that, and I'm like,

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I need you all to leave. Are you all right?

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I said, I'm fine. I need you all to leave.

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And I'm raspy voice because I can't really talk. I'm

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not taking any meds. I want you all out of

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the room now. And they all left, and I'm like,

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what was that? What happened to me? That's not the

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place that I should have gone to, right And in

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that well, in that moment, you know, it became abundantly

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aware that you know there is no heaven, there is

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no hell, there is no good, there is no bad,

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there is no right, there is no wrong. Everything I

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was taught my entire life was a lie. And within

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that timeframe of whatever that, you know, however long, I

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was on the other side that was shown to me

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and given to me, I was one with everything. Within

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a trillionth of a second, I knew everything there was

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to ever know. I am everything that has ever existed

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or will ever exist. In that moment, I became one

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with the Father. I became the light.

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Speaker 1: I was the light.

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Speaker 2: That means I became God. I am God.

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Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: And when I realized that, I was like, I have

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a mission. I have to let the world know that

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they have been duped, lied to horrifically. Right enough, when

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I finally got back home, there was that nudge, you know.

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I got mad at Father and I was this is

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a couple months later, because I'm still feeling this unconditional love,

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you know, and it was kind of an ease off process,

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you know, and I'm like, I'm shaking my fist. Look,

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you picked the wrong list. Look, pal, you picked the

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wrong person, right, because I knew I wasn't a nice

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person and I've done bad things in my life, you know.

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And I'm like, you picked the wrong person. I said, nah,

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you and I'm pacing back and forth, and I finally

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got into my bedroom and I was in my bathroom

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walking out. I said, you picked the wrong person. You

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should have picked the polp or a bishop. And this

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is when I heard my father speak to me. Now,

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he speaks to you through your emotions all the time.

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We've just learned to tune them out right. But this

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is when he spoke to me, and these were his

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exact words. He's kind of a little on the myth side.

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And when I said that again, I said, you picked

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the wrong person, and he said, why not? You are

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my son. I collapsed on the floor at the end

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of my bed and I looked up and I said,

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for all that I am, I am you. I forgave

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myself for everything I knew I had done nothing wrong.

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And I wiped the altar clean of all the false

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idols that I had put up there, and on my

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altar is my father, and that is it. And that's

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when the nudge came, like start your YouTube channel, start

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your website, and people just fell into place. They came in.

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They started my YouTube channel for me, they started my website.

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I've had clients right now. It's not as active as

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I'd like it, but that's coming. But it was the

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nudge to get me to where I needed to be

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to get my ball rolling, you know. And I was mad.

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I was very angry, not at my near death experience,

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but that I had been lied to by the church,

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by the Catholic Church.

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Speaker 1: The thing is that that is a very and feeling

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being a recovering Catholic. I was. I was livid for

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years after I kind of realized what was going on,

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and it's just always been something that it just sticks

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in my craw a lot, because I was like, I've

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been lied to, I've been lied to, I've been lied to,

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and then doing this work, the more the deeper down

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these rabbit holes you go in regards to how the

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Bible was created and what the true teachings were and

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how they've been manipulated and all of this kind of stuff.

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Because I had a friend of mine once say, no

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one leaves Christianity because of Christ's teachings.

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Speaker 2: And what's in the Bible with Christ teachings. Aren't you

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even there? You know? I mean it's I mean, if

474
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you look at the Old Testament, it's really the Quran, right.

475
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Speaker 1: Because it's it's the Torah.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Torah. You know what I'm saying. And it's

477
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not even anything. I mean, even by the time of

478
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the Christ, even betid Jesus was here, the Jews finally

479
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didn't have they didn't decide on what we're going to

480
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be the chronicle scriptures of the Old Testament yet, right,

481
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So that didn't come until year one hundred or so.

482
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and then the Bible didn't come into real

483
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play that we the one we kind of know is

484
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for at least three four hundred years.

485
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Speaker 2: Right in the year three hundred and eighty two, that's

486
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when they finally decided on Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

487
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So tell me five years ago on a Tuesday, what

488
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did you have for dinner?

489
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Speaker 1: Exactly?

490
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Speaker 2: Okay, So now you're going to tell me, right, And

491
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I said, I was like, okay, I said no, I said,

492
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this is intolerable. I will not stand for this. People

493
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need to know who they are, because in that moment

494
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when I told you, I became the light. I was

495
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one with the father.

496
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Speaker 1: So let's go back to here, the actual time when

497
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you were on the other side. Yeah, so you're floating,

498
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so when you saw you were still kind of in

499
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this realm, but you saw light because you're saying, you

500
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see the bloods of glass, you see the tree and

501
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all that stuff. Is that here or is that We.

502
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Speaker 2: Have to understand when you leave your body, you're in

503
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a different dimension, correct, Right, So it's not technically heaven

504
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,599
because you're not dead yet. Okay, So it's a place

505
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where you form a safe place, Okay.

506
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Speaker 1: Kind of like what dreams may come. Correct that Robin

507
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,920
Williams created his world, correct, that's okay, that's I just

508
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,839
wanted to make sure there's one like the grass and

509
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the and the leaves outside.

510
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Speaker 2: Did you see the Shack, the movie The Shack. Oh

511
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my god, you should watch the Shack. It is a

512
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beautiful but it's the same thing. You create this in between.

513
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You're in between this world and home. But it's a

514
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,279
look alike to heaven. Okay. So it's construct a construct, right,

515
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because you're not really dead yet, so you can't enter

516
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home yet. So but it's your safe place that you

517
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,559
can commune with Father and have your souls or Jesus

518
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show up and relatives and relatives whatever you whatever you see.

519
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We create our near deathics experience before we come, which.

520
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Speaker 1: Is another point I wanted to ask you about because

521
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I know you've spoken about this on your YouTube channel.

522
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One thing that I'm going to say, ninety seven percent

523
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of every near death experience I've spoken to near death

524
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experience or I've spoken to has been a positive experience. Yes,

525
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but there's those few that are negative and people are like,

526
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:24,519
oh my, so there's proof that that's a hell or

527
00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:28,920
there's proof of this or that. My understanding is that

528
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we construct, like you just said, our own near death experience.

529
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It's almost like a it's almost like a ramp or

530
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a easing in, because when you transition it's pretty abrupt

531
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from this world to the other.

532
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Speaker 2: It's extremely abrupt way. It's like crossing the line. Boom boom.

533
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I mean, there's no gray matter, right.

534
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Speaker 1: So if all of a sudden you eraise the Catholic

535
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,440
your entire life, and Mohammed is waiting for you and

536
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it's all a Muslim environment, let's say it's coming, you're

537
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,759
gonna freak the hell out. Because you're still just trying

538
00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,039
to process what's happening to you. So a lot of times,

539
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:10,400
from what I understand, is you kind of ease into

540
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,519
it by constructing a near death experience that makes you

541
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feel comfortable. Hence, if it's Grandma, Grandma sometimes shows up.

542
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:21,119
If it's your third grade teacher who did something for you,

543
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,400
she shows up. If it's your animals, if it's Jesus,

544
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,680
I always I always joke Jesus the hardest working man

545
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,359
of show business because he shows up a everyone's near

546
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,039
death experience, but he's had a lot of them. But

547
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,799
there's also Buddha and many other ones. There's Muhammed, there's

548
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:37,599
many other teachers, Indian gurus and so on that show

549
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,359
up at different people dyeshiva, all that kind of stuff,

550
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:43,759
at different near death experiences to kind of ease in.

551
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,160
If you're Hindu all your life and you have Jesus

552
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,400
show up, you're gonna probably like, what, right, what is

553
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,680
happening here? So it's kind of like you're constructing. You're

554
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,799
constructing your own experience to kind of ease you in.

555
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,160
Is that how you see it as well? Right?

556
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 2: Because it's such a profound change from what you were

557
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:07,960
just experiencing too to this. I mean it's like a

558
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,599
shock to the system and right taking the right the

559
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,359
polar air plunge. Right, you know you're at ninety eight

560
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,119
degrees and now you jumped into thirty degree water. It's

561
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,119
it's a shock. So but I instant. The thing with

562
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,559
me is like I instantly knew where I was. And

563
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:26,640
I've watched many hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of near

564
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,519
death experience and they had I had an overwhelming sense

565
00:28:29,799 --> 00:28:31,680
that I was home. I was a home feeling. I

566
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:37,200
knew exactly where I was. Instantly, I'm home. And I

567
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,440
said it shockingly, like I shouldn't be here yet, it's

568
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not time, because again I knew everything there was to know,

569
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so I knew it wasn't my time. And I was like,

570
00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:50,400
I'm home. How would I know I'm home? How would

571
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,720
I know I'm home? The Bible never said that Bible

572
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,880
said I'm going to go to Hell, that there is

573
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,279
no safe place for me. How would I know I'm home?

574
00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: To be fair, the Bible terms on what goes to

575
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:04,240
hell or not is pretty gray and it's pretty sensitive.

576
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So like I ate meat on Friday.

577
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Speaker 2: Yeah, going to Hell, it's over something. You know, I

578
00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:12,240
you know, I you know I. You know when you

579
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:16,000
go to church, you know, you're fornicated around, you cheated

580
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:18,400
on your wife, you rob the bank, you masturbated what

581
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:20,440
you're right, and then you go to church and all

582
00:29:20,599 --> 00:29:22,000
for the you know, for the love of Jesus. He

583
00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:24,799
loved You're you're forgiven, So I love.

584
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Speaker 1: I love. Uh. This is a bit that George Carland,

585
00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:30,039
the Great, late the late great George Carland did a

586
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bit on. I think it was George Carlin that did

587
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,200
a bit on. Uh. He was raised Catholic as well,

588
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,160
and he's like, you know, uh, early on in my life,

589
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:44,599
you know, they you know, if you ate meat on Friday, right,

590
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:47,599
that was a that was a punishable offense, like that

591
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:51,240
was hardcore, You're going to hell. But then you know,

592
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:53,200
over the last thirty years or so, they kind of

593
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,599
loosened up on that. They loosened up on that, They

594
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,960
changed their mind on it. The official the official vertic

595
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position on eating meat on Friday. It's not that bad.

596
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,799
He goes, well, what happened to all the people before

597
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,920
that got sentenced the hell because of the meat thing?

598
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:13,119
Do they all get out now or are they still

599
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,000
in there going man, just bad timing, like it was.

600
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:19,000
But that joke, but it's exactly what it is. That's

601
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,519
what he was pointing out. It's a joke, farce, it's

602
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,599
it's man made. Another friend of mine says, it's people

603
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,680
doing peoply things.

604
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: Right, that's what it is, right, I mean, it's really

605
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,000
it really comes down to your choice. Do you want

606
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:36,519
to believe that this is the written word of God?

607
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:40,200
Because anytime that something comes from a divine experience, it

608
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comes through what language. You know.

609
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

610
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,160
and now back to the show.

611
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Speaker 2: Right now, I'm not talking Sanskrit, English, German, whatever, I'm

612
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,200
talking what religion you were brought up with. Right, Like

613
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,359
Church wrote the Bible, period, that's it. They took it

614
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,960
over Rome did, right. They took it over from the Jews,

615
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,559
and they created the Bible, and they passed it down

616
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:12,200
to you from coming from the Holy Spirit. Take our

617
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:12,960
word for it.

618
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Speaker 1: Right, That was that was That was the sales pitch.

619
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:17,839
Speaker 2: That was a sales pitch. And only we can interpret

620
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,640
the Bible for you.

621
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,839
Speaker 1: The Cavil until they started reading.

622
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Speaker 2: Right, and then and then you know so right and

623
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,079
then you're like, wow, and but it worked right, you

624
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,880
fell for it?

625
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: Well, why when they listen. I walked into I don't

626
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,519
know how old Saint Peter's Basilica is, but I know

627
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,119
it's fairly old. I don't know the date of when

628
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,720
it was finished originally, but I walked into Saint Peter's

629
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,480
Basilica in the Vatican and I walked in and I

630
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,920
looked around and I just said, I turned to my wife,

631
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,880
I go, if I was a peasant living in the

632
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:56,480
fields working, you know, and I walked into this, there

633
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,839
would be there's no reference that I would have other

634
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:02,640
living in the shack or living small towns. And you

635
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,759
walk and you see this, like God must have built this.

636
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,559
God must have built this. And that's that was what

637
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,200
they're saying. This is God's house, all this stuff. So

638
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:14,240
the vast all these cathedrals. I went throughout Europe looking

639
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:17,279
at visiting cathedrals, and you just walk in. You're like,

640
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,839
they're built as these awe inspiring places to help with

641
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,839
the narrative of what they're selling. Correct, it was, it was,

642
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,039
it was. And then on top of that, they commissioned

643
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:34,359
the greatest artists of their generation in the you know

644
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:40,279
Renaissance all that everywhere you turn there is propaganda Church

645
00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:43,839
propaganda on some of the greatest pieces of art ever

646
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,359
created because they were commissioned by the Church. Correct, and

647
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:49,880
you're but it's again all part of the of the

648
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,319
propaganda moving forward. It was fascinating to see all of that.

649
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Speaker 2: I'm sure it was because it is inspiring, you know, you.

650
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Speaker 1: Know it, it is inspiring. But also I got to

651
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:00,759
a point and my wife also with both of us,

652
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:02,279
got to a point where we're going to museums in

653
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:05,279
Italy and in France and Spain and we're just like,

654
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:09,480
I can't see Jesus being tortured anymore. Like every image

655
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,039
of him is just you know, the cadaver on the

656
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:16,319
wall kind of vibe. And it was just like we

657
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:19,640
were looking for a smiley Jesus or a or even

658
00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:23,200
just one that he's not bleeding and in pain, and

659
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,079
they're rare to find. It was just but again, that

660
00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:29,400
was part of the sales pitch, right that like he

661
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,079
suffered for your sins, He's the one that did all

662
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:35,880
this stuff, and it just it just drove me nuts.

663
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Speaker 2: And you know, I will tell you this that Jesus

664
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,440
felt no pain. He wasn't in his body when the

665
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,559
crucifixion started, the whole thing. He was simply he was

666
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:50,720
simply watching it from home, like when he became enlightened,

667
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:54,200
when John baptized him in the Jordan, right, that is

668
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,920
when his enlightenment began. He was hit with a massive

669
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,000
amount of electricity or energy, right, And he came up

670
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,799
from that baptism, and he was jerking around and having spasms,

671
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and he wandered off into the woods, into the weeds

672
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by the river, where he stayed for three weeks because

673
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he knew if he started walking like that, like twitch

674
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and people would think he was possessed, you know, the

675
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,519
ignorant people back then, and they would have stoned him. Right,

676
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,960
So he sat off in the weeds, and you know

677
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,239
this in the Bible, as he wandered the desert for

678
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three weeks, tempted by the devil. No, he sat there

679
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:33,800
and his fight began with the ego. He began to

680
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,239
kill the ego, and the ego was you're not strong enough,

681
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,199
you know to do this. This devil doesn't exist. That's

682
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,360
something created by the Catholic Church and Dante, right, right,

683
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,719
Dante's Inferno. But he was battling the ego, and he

684
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,480
stayed by the river, going something to eat and drink,

685
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and when he was healthy enough to or you know,

686
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he walked home. But that's what the church created that

687
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,159
situation and turned it into, you know, the devil. He

688
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,840
wandered the desert, tempted by the devil. No, he was

689
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sitting there fighting the ego.

690
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Speaker 1: Well, from my understanding and from the research I've done,

691
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we were talking about like my favorite years of the

692
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YadA YadA years of Jesus twelve YadA, YadA, YadA. He's

693
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thirty those years. To my understanding, he did get in

694
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:21,480
a lot of training. He did go to a lot

695
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,920
of different places and learned a lot of things. But

696
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,159
when John did that to him, it might have acted,

697
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It might have taken him to that next level of

698
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his of his mission.

699
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Speaker 2: That's correct, it did.

700
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Speaker 1: And it sounds like from the way you're explaining it

701
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,559
is that jolt of electricity the nervous system, and a

702
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:41,199
body needs time to acclimate to that kind of energy, correct,

703
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,239
because we're just not And psychics deal with that, and

704
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,760
so do psychic mediums and channelers deal with that when

705
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,679
they're that energy comes through them, they just they it

706
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,320
takes you have to like build up a tolerance, a

707
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,760
capacity the battery correct not correct. So he was in

708
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,239
there three he was probably pretty open already.

709
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,679
Speaker 2: Well, well, you know when when you were speaking about

710
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,800
where he learned Jesus early on was Mary Magdalene was

711
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,639
his wife. So they were a very close couple. They

712
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,599
stole away together, but they go out into the woods

713
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,960
and they would talk, lean up against trees whatever. But

714
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,440
then Jesus said, I have to go. And he was

715
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,599
a young man at the time.

716
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: He was twelve when he left.

717
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,679
Speaker 2: But then right, so he traveled, well, last time you

718
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,320
saw him, but when he left, he was about eighteen nineteen, No,

719
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,119
I think he was like twenty three twenty four, and

720
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,800
he was going to be gone for three years. So

721
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,320
he said, I'm going to go on a long trip, right,

722
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,000
So he left Mary. Where do you get this rooment

723
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:41,039
came from home, got it. So he traveled across North Africa,

724
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,239
all right. So he would you know, when he'd run

725
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,079
out of money, he got into some good caravans and

726
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:48,480
he'd travel with them. And then when he ran out

727
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:51,480
of money, he wouldn't go to work, you know, unloading ships,

728
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:54,559
working the dogs, a working man, right, g gather up

729
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:56,320
some money and then he would travel and he made

730
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,039
it to India where he learned from the masters on

731
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,599
how to meditate, how to become one with the mind,

732
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,719
heart and mind are one self self realization. And he

733
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,559
stayed there for three years or two and a half

734
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:11,679
years or so, and then he worked his way back, Okay,

735
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,719
back across North Africa through the caravans, doing the same thing,

736
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:17,360
meeting wonderful people. He wanted to get to know you.

737
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:20,079
He knew what you were didn't matter, Whether you were prostitute,

738
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,239
a barkeep, didn't matter to him. He loved you unconditionally

739
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:26,000
and he wanted to get to know you. So then

740
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:28,679
he came back and can you imagine, You know, we

741
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,519
have our phones when we leave. Hey, honey, you know,

742
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:33,320
there was no writing, there was no communication. He was

743
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,199
just gone for three.

744
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:36,079
Speaker 1: Years, right, hoping they'll come back.

745
00:37:36,039 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: Hoping if he's still alive, to even come back. And

746
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,800
you know, Mary's mother is like, just he's dead, you know,

747
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,639
And then there he is. He comes back and that's

748
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,400
where his knowledge came from, That's where his teachings came from.

749
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,800
That's where he told you anything I can do, you

750
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,519
can do. Do not seek anything out when he said,

751
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,440
the materialistic world will bring you ruin. Why because there's

752
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,119
nothing there. If you seek anything outside yourself, you will

753
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:06,719
find pain, misery and death. Search within, because there is

754
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,360
the Kingdom of God.

755
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:12,159
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is, And imagine saying those words.

756
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,519
Speaker 2: Back then, he was truly revolutionary.

757
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: Nowlary correct, I mean, but then I mean that was

758
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,000
I mean when he spoke those words, when he said,

759
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:24,239
when he finally said I and the Father are one,

760
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,039
that was his death sentence when he spoke.

761
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: He knew it too when he spoke that, he said,

762
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,000
I and the Father are one. And they picked up

763
00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:36,360
stones to stone them. And he said, for which of

764
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,199
the good works that I have shown you from the Father?

765
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,320
Am I to be stoned? And they said for your

766
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:41,960
good works?

767
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,119
Speaker 1: Not?

768
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,559
Speaker 2: But you, being a man, make yourself God. Now his

769
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,280
response was epic, and of course could only come from Yeshua.

770
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:54,960
He said, is it not written in your laws? I said,

771
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,519
you are God's And they all dropped stones stones, and

772
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:05,480
he says, then, how you know, how is that blasphemy?

773
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:08,280
That was his death sentence. That was his That was it.

774
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:11,559
They they hunted him down and they finally executed him.

775
00:39:11,639 --> 00:39:14,079
They killed him as a common criminal. He broke the law.

776
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:17,760
He was not allowed to teach what he was teaching.

777
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,320
It was against the law, and the church got him

778
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,559
for it. They murdered him.

779
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't the church yet, it was Roman.

780
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,639
Speaker 2: It was Rome. It was a bunch of the Pharisees

781
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,920
or the religious institutions of the time. Let's put it

782
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,280
that way.

783
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: Okay. He was a troublemaker.

784
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,559
Speaker 2: He was a troublemaker. Yeah, he came to he muddied

785
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:35,760
up the water and he had no problems doing and

786
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,880
he didn't care because he knew what he was doing.

787
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,440
Everything that was it's a dream that we're in. It's

788
00:39:42,039 --> 00:39:44,840
a non reality, an illusion.

789
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,079
Speaker 1: So yeah, to type to kind of jump into what

790
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:50,920
you were saying in regards to the looking for anything

791
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,079
outside of yourself that I completely understand that idea. And

792
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:58,320
the more you go down the spiritual path, the more

793
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,639
you understand that the outside world is not real. This

794
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,920
is the only thing that's real is the inner world. Correct,

795
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,719
but the but the outside world is fairly intoxicating.

796
00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:14,119
Speaker 2: It's meant to draw you in. That's the point of this,

797
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,159
that's the whole point of.

798
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: It right, Yeah, I mean it's and I'm sorry everyone.

799
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,679
I'm going to bring it up again. The Matrix. It's

800
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,519
exactly what they were saying in the Matrix. He's like,

801
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:26,679
when we see Cipher sitting there, he goes, I know

802
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,239
that this steak is not real. Right, we'll be right

803
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:37,519
back after a word from our sponsor and now back

804
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:43,360
to the show. But I don't care, and he takes

805
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,599
a bite of it. He's like, I don't want the

806
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:47,760
real world. The real world's too difficult for me. I

807
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,679
don't I don't want to. I don't want to. I

808
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,400
want to just live in this delusion. And that's who

809
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:57,800
that character was, and Neo being essentially the one and

810
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,400
also basically being Jesus, Jesus Christ right in that thing,

811
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:05,920
in that that story, he was able to not only

812
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,079
learn the truth of the reality, of the matrix, of

813
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:16,239
the the illusion, the dream and the reality, but then

814
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,039
he was he learned the ability to manipulate both correct

815
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:22,719
and that's what Jesus did, and that's what all the

816
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,360
masters do.

817
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: And you you have to understand that when Father chose

818
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,599
and I call Godfather because of my near death experience,

819
00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:30,480
because I felt like in the moment of my God.

820
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: That relationship.

821
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,639
Speaker 2: Now, I felt like I was his one and only son,

822
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,719
the love that was bestowed on me. So and I

823
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,079
call godfather.

824
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: Says that to everybody, Jason I.

825
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 2: Know. But people get there's not just you, Jason, I know.

826
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:48,360
And it's like people get so mad at me. Quit

827
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,519
calling him father, he's God or source. I said, no,

828
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:53,320
he is my father. He is my creator and I

829
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,039
am one with him. Sure, and but regardless, is like

830
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,800
when God chose Jesus, he not only we come from

831
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,159
a different dimension, we all do, but not only that,

832
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:07,719
but Jesus was in a different He was a highly

833
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,360
advanced being from a highly advanced society. Okay, what we

834
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,679
would call an extraterrestrial and an alien. Right, he was

835
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:19,559
a highly advanced being. So he was a master. So

836
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:22,400
when Father chose him and they got into their little

837
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,320
pow wow, Jesus actually said, man, I don't really think

838
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,239
it's a good time, and He's like, no, not ready, right,

839
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,519
he says, you know, I need you now. And of

840
00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:33,599
course when Father asked us of something, right, we do it.

841
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,079
So Jesus came. But Jesus was a master, a highly

842
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:40,519
advanced being. He beat the game he was living a

843
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:44,119
life of a highly advanced being, so when he came,

844
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,639
I mean, I couldn't even imagine how difficult it must

845
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:50,119
have been for him to lower himself to such standards.

846
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:52,920
But his love for all of us is something you

847
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,599
don't understand. So that's where Father got Jesus from. He

848
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,639
wasn't your regular pow wow kind of guy.

849
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: But the thing is too that I always ask I

850
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,960
always ask the same I always say the same thing, like, man,

851
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,280
what was it like trying to teach what Jesus was

852
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,400
teaching at the time he was teaching it? And then

853
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,840
you look at someone like Buddha, Well, how is it

854
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,880
like when he was around trying to teach what he

855
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,400
was teaching?

856
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: Right?

857
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,199
Speaker 1: You know? And all of the masters they all have,

858
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:21,920
they all run up against these walls, because that's what

859
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:25,840
this place is even today. I mean, in someone someone,

860
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,880
I always bring him up because he's you know, one

861
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,800
of my I'm very deeply connected to my Yogananda, who

862
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,679
died in the twentieth century. But he he promoted Christ's

863
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:41,280
teachings so wholeheartedly with his with Indian Yogic philosophies and

864
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,079
everything like that, and pushed all of that out there.

865
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:47,079
But the resistance that he got and we're talking about

866
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,760
the thirties, the forties, this is not that long ago. No,

867
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,679
it's massive. So I always ask, like, what would happen

868
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,239
if Jesus really did come back, Like what would literally

869
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,079
what would happen? Like what if he would start doing miracles?

870
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:05,440
People would be like, that's ai or that's a magic trick, right,

871
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:08,320
or you know, because now we're so kind of cynical

872
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,760
about everything, like what would he have to do?

873
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be good enough. Nothing would be good enough

874
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,840
because people would say, nah, that's some sort of allude.

875
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,679
That's that because you're so ingrained in the illusion, in

876
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,840
the dream that you believe your body is real. You

877
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,400
believe that, like you said, that steak is real, that

878
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,159
your pencil, that what your college degree, everything that you're

879
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:32,280
experiencing is real because you can feel it, see it

880
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,719
and touch it and taste it. Right, But that's part

881
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,760
of the illusion, that's part of what you immersed yourself in.

882
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:40,039
So then what's the point of coming here, Alex, I'll

883
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:44,360
tell you it's simply to rediscover who you are. You

884
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,719
didn't come here to learn anything. When I sold you

885
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,039
who I am God, Right, what does God need to learn? Nothing?

886
00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:54,159
So what do I need to learn here in the illusion? Nothing?

887
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,760
What I came here to do is rediscover who I am.

888
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: And by doing that, you're gonna learn a few things.

889
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,559
Speaker 2: And I've learned a lot of things through it, through

890
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:05,079
the through the way.

891
00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:06,639
Speaker 1: You know of this experience.

892
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,079
Speaker 2: It's like you know, a hamster on a wheel. You're

893
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:12,239
on a cosmic wheel in the universe. Right, what does

894
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,320
that wheel do? It goes nowhere. You're on a journey

895
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,719
to nowhere. There's nowhere for you to go period. You're

896
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,599
at home, You're in a deep sleep, right, So where

897
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,760
what do you need to learn? Nothing? It's simply a

898
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,320
journey of rediscovery. I am the universe pretending to be

899
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:35,719
Jason Janis. That's it. And I've just rediscovered that, all right.

900
00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:39,199
And I had a profound experience on October third that

901
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,000
proved that we can get into it later. But I

902
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:45,280
am simply rediscovering who I am, and I've done that,

903
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,880
and that's the whole purpose of this. That's why when

904
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,320
Jesus said to the young King, sell all your stuff, Pug,

905
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,639
give all your money away. Come follow me. I'll show

906
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:56,719
you Jesus led by example, right. He showed you what

907
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,440
he was doing and how to do it. But even

908
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:02,280
then they didn't want to listen, even with the miracles

909
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,400
he was doing, which he, by the way, did far

910
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:09,400
less miracles than the Bible explains, but miracles. Nonetheless, people

911
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,760
began to project themselves onto him, and that frustrated him

912
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,960
because they're not getting it right.

913
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,599
Speaker 1: But he didn't come to start a religion.

914
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: No, he didn't come to start any religion. He came

915
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,920
to wake you up. Look, anything I can do, you

916
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,719
can do and more. Wake up is what he was saying.

917
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,639
Wake up, wake up.

918
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:28,639
Speaker 1: He's handing out blue pills.

919
00:46:28,639 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: Everything. He's handing out the blue It's like when you

920
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,079
have a nightmare and you wake up in the ben

921
00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:35,760
you go, ah, oh, it's just a dream. You haven't

922
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,880
woken up from the dream yet. That's called death. And

923
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,320
it's called an awakening. And why are you all terrified

924
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,880
to awaken? There's two forms of awakening. And I was

925
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,559
just talking to this to someone last night. Awakening is

926
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:51,400
what I am. And now I went through my ascension

927
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,880
in twenty twenty three, which was brutally painful, brutal, but

928
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,920
now I'm in the awakening, and that is simply the

929
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,199
death of the ego, loss of motivation, law of caring

930
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,079
about anything in this world. And I have no love

931
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:06,719
of this world. I don't care about wealth six I

932
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,119
mean any of that. It's the what is that? That's

933
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:12,840
the death of the ego. So my ego is is

934
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:17,760
just crushed. He's there, But it's the death of the ego,

935
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:20,679
is what the awakening is. But when you truly awaken,

936
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,639
that means you die or you transition home. And that's

937
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:27,840
where people are terrified, all right, because you will stand

938
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,880
before your father and you will be shown your life review. Okay,

939
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:34,760
and I wish you didn't have. I did not have, No,

940
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,039
I did not have in mind, but you and I've

941
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:40,079
just from everybody they've had their life review.

942
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 1: So I and whether the life review is not a judgment,

943
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:43,679
it's not.

944
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: There is no judgment. I need you all to understand

945
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,559
this right now. There is no judgment. There is no hell,

946
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:52,480
there are no demons, there is nothing. This is a dream.

947
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:56,239
It's an illusion. It's what you asked your father to

948
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,880
experience in this dream, in this three D world.

949
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,079
Speaker 1: So let's go back to that. When you say you

950
00:48:02,199 --> 00:48:05,280
chose this are you talking about the sole blueprint? Correct,

951
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,199
you're talking about the Soul contract.

952
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:09,639
Speaker 2: You're still right, and that contract isn't going to be

953
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:13,000
completed in one lifetime. Okay. I've died over thirty two

954
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:17,480
hundred times. Okay, most of you have died between anywhere

955
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,719
between six hundred to eight hundred times. There might be

956
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,639
some of you out there with a little more experience

957
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:25,440
at twelve hundred. But I had a profound out of

958
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,840
body experience the night Deavar Hamblin died on the football field,

959
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:31,760
I had a profound out of body experience. And I'll

960
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,239
tell you this real quick. It's like, as soon as

961
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,880
I saw him make the hit and walk, I saw

962
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:36,679
him drop dead.

963
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,559
Speaker 1: And I but he came back.

964
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 2: He came back right. He had a near He won't

965
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,199
talk about it yet, but I all of a sudden,

966
00:48:42,199 --> 00:48:44,360
I just lay my head back and i'ment oh, And

967
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,760
then all of a sudden I was gone. I was

968
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,760
in another realm, another dimension. It was like Star Wars.

969
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,960
There was a sun here, and the sun here like,

970
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:56,519
and the ocean was over here, and there was a

971
00:48:56,599 --> 00:48:59,679
light being walking towards me on this beautiful beach, and

972
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,760
there was presence that I could not see, but I

973
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,480
could feel like I'm feeling the love of home and

974
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:09,039
peace and all of this, and and I'm like, who

975
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:12,920
are you? And you know it's telepathic of course, so

976
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,199
because there's no body, and I'm like, I'm Jeffrey. I've

977
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,920
always been with you. And I'm like, Jeffrey, I said,

978
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,400
that's the toys arrest. Draft man said I can't call

979
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,079
you Jeffrey. How about John? And then I ended up

980
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:25,960
calling him Jeffrey and I'm like, so he's your spirit guid,

981
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:30,280
my spirit guide, and this being is getting closer to me.

982
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,239
But it was a I recognize that.

983
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: Being, you recognize the energy probably yes, the energy.

984
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: Right, because it was a light being right. And I'm like, Jeffrey,

985
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,239
how many times have I been here? How many times

986
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,000
have I died? And he and the number was instant

987
00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:47,519
over thirty two hundred and I'm like, I've died over

988
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:52,239
thirty two hundred times, and he goes, yes, you're ancient.

989
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,360
And then I was pulled back into my body on

990
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,719
the couch. And now I wake up and the football

991
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,519
field is all dark. Nobody's in the stand, it's dark,

992
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:03,280
and just a few commentators. So from the time I

993
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,159
saw his hit and him take two steps and drop.

994
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:09,079
Then I came back and everything was dark. So I

995
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:10,559
was gone for quite a while. I was gone for

996
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:14,400
quite a while in this experience, having this experience, I'm like,

997
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,760
what the hell does ancient mean? I mean, yeah, we're eternal, right,

998
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,679
but what does ancient mean? And I'm like, thirty two

999
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,719
hundred times? Am I that pathetic? I'm like, you get

1000
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:25,000
it right?

1001
00:50:25,159 --> 00:50:25,679
Speaker 1: Wow?

1002
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,119
Speaker 2: And that night I remember saying this, I said, who

1003
00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:32,480
am I? Father? Why what am I?

1004
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1005
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:42,239
and now back to the show, right.

1006
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,639
Speaker 2: And then the next day I wake up and my

1007
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:49,199
YouTube algorithm was lone Wolf Sigma Male and the Chosen One.

1008
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,159
You're a chosen One, and I'm like, chosen one and

1009
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:54,440
it resident. I could just feel this energy burst out

1010
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,760
like woof like And I started doing research on that,

1011
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,360
and I was in a a sharing group and I

1012
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,320
was explaining my new experience in this. I think his

1013
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,239
name was David Succi. I don't know if you've ever

1014
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,400
heard of him. He's been researching near death experience for

1015
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,679
like fifteen or twenty years. He's done like thousands of them.

1016
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,360
Written five or six books. And he raised his hand.

1017
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,519
He goas, wow, that's amazing. I said, first of all,

1018
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:22,639
that experience was profound. But you, being a chosen one,

1019
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,559
he says, it's very real. And he says, do you

1020
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:29,119
realize you've been walking this earth for over thirty thousand

1021
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:33,119
years helping humanity? And he says, God has come to

1022
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:36,639
you to choose to have these experiences because you're a

1023
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,559
light seed. You're a light worker or star seed, a

1024
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:42,039
light worker, and he says, you've been walking this earth

1025
00:51:42,039 --> 00:51:46,199
for thirty thousand years helping humanity evolve. And I was like,

1026
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,239
in it, I felt it right. I felt that energy

1027
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,320
surging through me. And I was like that all made

1028
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,480
sense now why I've had all these lives and all

1029
00:51:55,559 --> 00:51:58,119
of these what I would call hard lives, you know,

1030
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,400
especially this one with the brutality that I've faced my

1031
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,559
whole life. And I said wow, And I said, but

1032
00:52:05,639 --> 00:52:07,960
you have to realize, no one here is special. Jesus

1033
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,039
wasn't special. Nobody is special. We're all one with the Father. Okay,

1034
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:12,400
so there's no speciality.

1035
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: It's just we're just a couple. Maybe whoever's I agree

1036
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,519
with you. It's just like some people might be a

1037
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:21,320
little bit farther along on the journey.

1038
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: That's it, right, So you're looking at somebody as you know,

1039
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:29,000
going into grade school, to somebody as a PhD's that's

1040
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,320
the only difference. You're other than that, you're no different,

1041
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,360
You're just for Jesus was well clearly further along on

1042
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,000
his journey, and that's why he was chosen for his job.

1043
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,400
And that's why Father has come to me and others.

1044
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,880
You know him in the Bible as one hundred and

1045
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,880
forty four thousand. Okay, we're the We're the star seeds,

1046
00:52:47,679 --> 00:52:51,079
the chosen ones to come and help humanity evolve, to

1047
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:53,519
get out of the darkness, to spread our love and

1048
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:58,280
our light. And it all made sense. My entire life

1049
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,679
made sense now because I've been a deep empathetic person

1050
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,079
since I was a little boy. I loved so deeply

1051
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:10,880
in every ding, every bad word, every hit. It hit hard,

1052
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:14,480
brutally hard, and I felt it right, And it's like

1053
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:17,519
nobody loves me, nobody cares. Clearly God doesn't care anymore. Right,

1054
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,159
that's why I'm being beaten. Nobody loves me at all.

1055
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,199
In that moment, everything came whoop, and my teachings just

1056
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:30,280
took off in that manner where I just began to

1057
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:35,199
teach more isolated things other than my near death experience.

1058
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,079
People need to know who they are. People need to

1059
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,599
know that you're in a matrix a dream that you

1060
00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:42,840
can change the contract. You can here in the physical

1061
00:53:43,159 --> 00:53:45,840
change your soul contract. But it's got to be done

1062
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,880
a certain way. You can't just say, listen, pal, I'm

1063
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,119
not liking this anymore. So we're going to do this, this,

1064
00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:53,119
and this. It's not going to work well.

1065
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:58,639
Speaker 1: And you're also talking about thirty two hundred times. That

1066
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,440
means obviously goes very much against what the Church and

1067
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,079
the Bible say about reincarnation, oh absolutely, which never made

1068
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:06,519
any sense.

1069
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm like, so I only get this one time, right,

1070
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,599
that's it, And then I'm screwing.

1071
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,039
Speaker 1: And these are the circumstances of the one time I

1072
00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:16,119
can live as a male or female, rich or poor,

1073
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:19,159
abused or loved, like, that's it. It's just like the

1074
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,400
luck of the draw, right it It made no sense.

1075
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,119
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna rotten the dirt until some guy

1076
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:26,119
is going to stand up in the sky and then

1077
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,559
decide who will really come home? And the rest will

1078
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:33,039
then truly suffer hell on earth. I was like, what

1079
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:33,880
are you talking about?

1080
00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:37,599
Speaker 1: Any parent understands that that's not realistic because you would

1081
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:40,679
never do that to a child like your own children,

1082
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:41,840
no matter what they.

1083
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: Do, right, you will love them on condition.

1084
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: You might not be happy with them right, but you

1085
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,000
will love them right, because that's that's what a parent is.

1086
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,639
So I always said that to myself. I was like, well,

1087
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,400
if if God is our parent and he loves us,

1088
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,199
and we use he is a lack of a better word, correct,

1089
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:04,280
but if he loves us, then that's why that that's

1090
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,199
why hell never made sense to me. When I was

1091
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,199
in first grade and they introduced me to Hell, I

1092
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,400
was terrified. We all were here if I went to

1093
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,239
Catholic school, right, terrified with the nun and the priests

1094
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:22,199
and the whole thing and and the Catholic calisthenics. Uh,

1095
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:26,679
you know, up sit Neil, up to Neil, Sit up Neil.

1096
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:30,559
Speaker 2: So telling me God has an ego, right, we got

1097
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:32,400
to stoke God's ego? Is that what you're telling me?

1098
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:32,559
Speaker 1: Well?

1099
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: That was the thing too, that right, And that's and

1100
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,639
that's what people don't understand. It's like, why do I

1101
00:55:35,679 --> 00:55:37,280
need to go to church to worship. I need to

1102
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,199
worship God. So you're telling me God has an ego

1103
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:41,119
and then they stopped in their tracks.

1104
00:55:41,199 --> 00:55:43,079
Speaker 1: Right, Oh no, how about how about the well just

1105
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:43,960
the ten commandments?

1106
00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 2: Right?

1107
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: No, you shall have no other God besides me, which

1108
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,440
I find fairly egotistical in itself. Uh. The Old Testament

1109
00:55:53,519 --> 00:55:56,239
God is very insecure.

1110
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,079
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and very brutal, very.

1111
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:03,559
Speaker 1: Very vengeful, very he loves playing games. He's like, give away,

1112
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,000
or I'll kill yoursel Abraham. Is it like you'll kill

1113
00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:08,760
your son or like like I'm just Josh, I won't

1114
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,159
kill him. I was just testing you and that way,

1115
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,159
it's like, Wow, he's got a dark sense of.

1116
00:56:13,199 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: You what and he has he does have a very

1117
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:16,639
good sense of humor.

1118
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:18,559
Speaker 1: I've had I've had this conversation on the show before.

1119
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:20,880
I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. Where it's

1120
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:26,840
the Old Testament versus the New Testament. Now those gods

1121
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,039
very different.

1122
00:56:28,639 --> 00:56:29,039
Speaker 2: True.

1123
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:36,159
Speaker 1: And then Jesus doesn't follow Jehovah. No, he doesn't follow

1124
00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:39,280
that God. No, he never to my understanding, and please

1125
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,599
correct me wrong. I don't think he ever said Jehovah

1126
00:56:42,639 --> 00:56:45,360
in the New Testament never never once. Nope, because there

1127
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,119
are two different books from two different worlds. Correct, They

1128
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,440
just kind of put together because we like, this is thin,

1129
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,119
we need to fill it up. Get that tour over here,

1130
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:55,000
let's bring it in here.

1131
00:56:55,039 --> 00:56:57,599
Speaker 2: And that's exactly where that came from, exactly.

1132
00:56:57,639 --> 00:57:00,280
Speaker 1: So it's very different because they're in the tour. There's

1133
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,199
no hell, correct, there is no hell. They that doesn't

1134
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,800
exist in the Jewish religion. So the hell was a

1135
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,559
construct of a control. It was a control mechanism. You

1136
00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:15,360
know where it came from, yes, of course, Uh, well,

1137
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:20,800
Jesus said it was about the lake, and uh everyone the.

1138
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: Catholic Church took it from the fires of Gehenna, which

1139
00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:26,519
was the eternal you know, garbage dump that was burning

1140
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:30,000
outside Jerusalem for centuries, right and where they would take

1141
00:57:30,159 --> 00:57:33,079
child sacrifices and then throw the bodies onto the fire.

1142
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,480
When Jesus sawt he says, how would you like it

1143
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:39,239
if you burned for eternity right then and there? Like that,

1144
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,000
Let's take that and there instead of an eternal garbage dump,

1145
00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:43,840
what do they create?

1146
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: An eternal hell?

1147
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: An eternal hell, a lake of fire of torture.

1148
00:57:47,519 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: And they're like, we need someone to We need a

1149
00:57:50,039 --> 00:57:52,440
main character in this part of the story, right, can

1150
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,239
we find what wasn't there an angel or something in

1151
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,960
this other book that someone was.

1152
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: Talking about, you know, and it's like the whole I

1153
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,639
will tell you where where this came from. And this

1154
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,519
is great, where the fear concept came from when we

1155
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:13,360
took on consciousness, when we decided all that is Father,

1156
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,519
there is nothing else God is. There is nothing else period,

1157
00:58:17,639 --> 00:58:20,880
end of subject that's put down right now. But all

1158
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,719
that is already knew everything stubbing your toe at hurt,

1159
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,679
giving birth with hurt, right, getting burned with hurt. But

1160
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,840
that wasn't good enough for all that is, all that

1161
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:37,039
is wanted to experience what all that is already knows? Okay,

1162
00:58:37,159 --> 00:58:43,000
So how can all that is experience this? He created us, right,

1163
00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:47,880
so we could be his tools to experience what all

1164
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,239
that is already knows. So we were created in his image.

1165
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,079
We are Father, we are still one with the Father,

1166
00:58:55,199 --> 00:58:58,760
but yet we are all individuals in the same aspect.

1167
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,400
It's a hard concept on understand, but follow me, right.

1168
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:05,480
So in that moment when we decided we don't have

1169
00:59:05,519 --> 00:59:07,880
to come here, we don't have to take on this. Okay,

1170
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,599
only the bravest of us souls choose to come here

1171
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,000
because it is brutally difficult. It is beyond heart. It's

1172
00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:18,599
the hardest place in the universe to come to. Okay.

1173
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:22,519
So when we decided to take on this role, we

1174
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:27,039
took on consciousness. Okay, Consciousness is duality. So when you

1175
00:59:27,079 --> 00:59:30,719
hear somebody speak of duality, that's consciousness, which we're experiencing

1176
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,719
right now. That is where, in that moment that we

1177
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,400
took that on, we created three things. Fear, guilt in

1178
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,679
the ego, we fear we have abandoned God, or you

1179
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,119
know it in the Bible as we were kicked out

1180
00:59:47,159 --> 00:59:50,880
of the garden of Eden. Of course, Okay, there is

1181
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,679
your fear. That's where it came from. We abandoned Father,

1182
00:59:55,239 --> 00:59:58,880
We threw ourselves into the universe so deep, and we

1183
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:02,599
built a the wall around ourselves. And now the ego,

1184
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,079
which is every voice inside your head right is now

1185
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:10,519
going hell bent on killing not only God but you.

1186
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:15,119
That's where that came from. And the church built on

1187
01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:20,800
that fear, and a SAPs fell into that trap of

1188
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:27,519
believing that somehow an angel could fall and create become

1189
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:31,639
the leader of the Lake of fire. It's it's insanity,

1190
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,119
it really is.

1191
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,199
Speaker 1: It is. It's not only insanity, it just doesn't. It

1192
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,519
just there's so many holes in this plot.

1193
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 2: It is. It's riddled with Swiss cheese.

1194
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's like, we'll be right back after

1195
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:53,000
a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

1196
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,320
I come from the story world, and you know, filmmaking world,

1197
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:04,000
so I've studied story at nauseum and you just look

1198
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,840
at the story. It's just like, my god, this doesn't

1199
01:01:06,199 --> 01:01:09,960
These characters don't make sense, the narratives don't make sense.

1200
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,119
They contradict themselves all the time. And then you've got

1201
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:16,400
these near death experiencers that come in and they just

1202
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,519
start saying, Oh no, everything's love, everything's God, everything's this,

1203
01:01:19,639 --> 01:01:22,960
everything's that. And the fear based stuff is the thing

1204
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:29,039
that really irritates me. Like, you know, you're born I'm

1205
01:01:29,079 --> 01:01:32,440
just talking. I was just thinking that you're born with

1206
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,000
original sin because you can't be born perfect. You have

1207
01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:37,199
to be you got to bring some baggage in. But

1208
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,840
I as the church can clear you of that.

1209
01:01:40,039 --> 01:01:40,159
Speaker 2: Right.

1210
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: If you don't get.

1211
01:01:41,239 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 2: Baptized, sorry, pal, you're gonna burn.

1212
01:01:44,039 --> 01:01:48,079
Speaker 1: Right. So when my kids, when my kids were born.

1213
01:01:48,679 --> 01:01:52,800
When my kids were born, you know, we didn't we're

1214
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,360
not Catholics, so we didn't get them baptized. And my

1215
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:00,800
parents are like, so what do you mind? You not religious?

1216
01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:03,039
I mean they haven't gone to church in thirty years,

1217
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,199
but we're raised Catholic, right, And they're like, so you

1218
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,000
thinking of the you know, getting a baptist. I'm like,

1219
01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:13,480
are you out of your mind?

1220
01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:15,159
Speaker 2: Right? Good for you?

1221
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: This is years ago when they were first born. And

1222
01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:21,559
I'm like, no, why She's like, well, you know, just

1223
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:27,800
in case the past, fine, why like, you know, cover

1224
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,960
your bases, you know what, thrown little water on, it'll

1225
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,599
be fine, oh kind of thing. And it's just oh my,

1226
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,960
it's I was.

1227
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: Like, wow, my youngest I have two children, My first

1228
01:02:39,039 --> 01:02:41,360
was you know because back then I was twenty one

1229
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:41,880
when I had her.

1230
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,039
Speaker 1: So she's good.

1231
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: So she's good. You know, my youngest who's just gone

1232
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,400
off the college, right, she was right done because she

1233
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,400
was never baptized because my wife at the time hated

1234
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,480
Christianity and she's like, all you praiser and all you

1235
01:02:56,599 --> 01:02:59,119
sick you know, and I'm like I'm fighting on. Oh,

1236
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,760
Catholics is all that it is. And we fought too

1237
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,000
in it, but she never got baptized, and thank God,

1238
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,400
thank you Father that she never did, because I would

1239
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,119
be horrified because she doesn't need it. And to this

1240
01:03:11,239 --> 01:03:14,599
day she's like, I let her. This is her journey,

1241
01:03:14,719 --> 01:03:17,800
this is her incarnation. She came here to work on herself.

1242
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:22,199
So I've told her some things. I said, this is

1243
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,840
your life. You live it how you want to live it.

1244
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,119
There's no right or wrong, there's no good or bad.

1245
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:29,320
You do what you need to do. But you're on

1246
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,000
a journey, okay. And I left that at that. If

1247
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:35,599
you have questions, come to me. I will be happy

1248
01:03:35,639 --> 01:03:37,519
to answer them. But do not read the Bible. Do

1249
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:40,199
not fall for the church. And it's a hoax, it's

1250
01:03:40,239 --> 01:03:44,920
a lie. It will leave you in ruin. Okay. I said,

1251
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,480
go within you. That's the only place you can go.

1252
01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:49,840
What do you mean, Dad? And I'm like, you will

1253
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,719
find out. You're nineteen. You have a while to go.

1254
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:58,159
But just believe in yourself, believe in who you are,

1255
01:03:58,519 --> 01:04:00,719
because that's the important thing.

1256
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: Now that you've gone through this experience, and it's fairly

1257
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,000
recent only like the last four or five years.

1258
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,239
Speaker 2: Or five years. I died somewhere like I say April second,

1259
01:04:10,239 --> 01:04:12,719
because it was when I went in, So again time

1260
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,039
I don't go around that right.

1261
01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:16,559
Speaker 1: So it hasn't been a long time since since since

1262
01:04:16,599 --> 01:04:19,639
you've gone through this process and you went to the

1263
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:22,480
other side and spoke to Father and had a go

1264
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,480
and felt, yes you were and you know the whole

1265
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,320
ball of wax. What's the one truth that you would

1266
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,119
like to share with people about what you discovered in

1267
01:04:32,159 --> 01:04:33,559
your journeys?

1268
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: That and I will be blunt, and I've said it

1269
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:44,159
twice now that I am God. I merged with that light.

1270
01:04:44,199 --> 01:04:46,159
I became the light. I became one with.

1271
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:48,719
Speaker 1: Everything and that everybody else.

1272
01:04:48,639 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 2: Is and everybody else that has died. And I'm talking

1273
01:04:51,519 --> 01:04:54,559
when I mean one with everything. I'm talking in the universe,

1274
01:04:54,679 --> 01:04:57,719
not just every human being on Earth, but everything that planet,

1275
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,960
everything that has ever created or has not been created.

1276
01:05:02,119 --> 01:05:03,000
I have one with.

1277
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: The one thing that I hear again and again is

1278
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,719
this knowing and this instant tapping into I like to

1279
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:15,559
call it the spiritual cloud where you automatically it's kind

1280
01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:19,079
of like the Internet, but like on steroids, because you

1281
01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:19,800
have all.

1282
01:05:19,639 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: Information, it's given to you instantly, instantly, instantly.

1283
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: So you're like what's quantum physics? Oh okay, got it?

1284
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 2: And it was all there.

1285
01:05:26,519 --> 01:05:29,039
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all there, but you can't bring it back, no,

1286
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:30,360
because this can't handle it.

1287
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 2: Correct, right, But because you have to understand that your

1288
01:05:33,719 --> 01:05:36,920
mind is at home with Father. This is your brain.

1289
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,880
This runs the CPU of the suit. Okay, this is

1290
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,920
simply a suit. So there's nothing inside this. Your soul

1291
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,280
is wrapped around it like a glove. Okay, and that's

1292
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,159
what controls your body, all right. Your mind is at home.

1293
01:05:51,039 --> 01:05:53,679
You are everybody on this planet is still at home.

1294
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,760
You've just put yourself into a deep sleep, okay, And

1295
01:05:58,159 --> 01:06:02,000
what happens when you sleep dream? You took on consciousness.

1296
01:06:02,199 --> 01:06:06,760
Now you are all of a sudden aware as I'm naked.

1297
01:06:07,719 --> 01:06:11,000
You know, that's the whole Bible thing. So you took

1298
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:16,360
on this reality, this this avatar. And now you became

1299
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,519
fearful of it. You became hateful of it, right because

1300
01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:26,239
you left or you think, as you've been taught in life,

1301
01:06:26,719 --> 01:06:30,519
that you left Father, that you are unworthy of being

1302
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,519
with him and his love. And when I merged with

1303
01:06:33,639 --> 01:06:37,960
that light of him and absorbed into it and became

1304
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:41,760
the light, I became that love, that I am one

1305
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,280
with the Father, that I am God. Each and every

1306
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:49,280
one of you are God. Okay, you've just forgotten who

1307
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:49,800
you are.

1308
01:06:50,239 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: It's like the Hindu concept of maya correct the dream,

1309
01:06:55,679 --> 01:06:57,280
the dream or the Aborigine.

1310
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,639
Speaker 2: The great dream, the great dream.

1311
01:06:58,679 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: Correct, that's what we're at.

1312
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,079
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all you're doing is dreaming. Nothing that

1313
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:05,440
you are seeing here that you are perceiving. See, these

1314
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,840
aren't eyes, these are lenses. So what you are dreaming.

1315
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,840
If you've seen the movie Avatar, this is the best

1316
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,639
way to describe it. Remember when he saw his Avatar

1317
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,239
and he laid down in bed for the first time

1318
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,440
and you saw that ball of electricity go through the

1319
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,119
right That is exactly what is taking place.

1320
01:07:22,519 --> 01:07:24,079
Speaker 1: Oh that's good. I never thought about that.

1321
01:07:24,159 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're dreaming now. Out of this dream, you're

1322
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,599
being downloaded what you're dreaming, right, Your lenses that you

1323
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:37,199
call eyes are projecting out what you are dreaming about. Thus,

1324
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:42,119
your thoughts create your reality. So what you are seeing

1325
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,199
is you. This is your envisioning of who I am.

1326
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,079
What you need me to be is what you're looking

1327
01:07:48,119 --> 01:07:50,280
at right now, because that is what you are dreaming.

1328
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,719
So what you're seeing sitting across from you is your

1329
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,320
perception of how you see me in your dream. That's

1330
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:57,880
exactly what is taking place.

1331
01:07:58,039 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: So in other words, Jake Scully as a human is

1332
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,960
in this analogy, who you truly are?

1333
01:08:08,159 --> 01:08:08,599
Speaker 2: Correct?

1334
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,039
Speaker 1: That is the soul that is that is you're on

1335
01:08:11,079 --> 01:08:13,960
the other side, that's you're in You're in the real world.

1336
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 2: Correct.

1337
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,119
Speaker 1: Then he lies down in the machine and he puts

1338
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:20,279
on the thing and then he and he sees the

1339
01:08:20,279 --> 01:08:21,520
avatar that he's going to go into.

1340
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 2: Correct.

1341
01:08:22,119 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 1: Very similar to us when we're looking at our soul print,

1342
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,840
a soul blueprint. When I have James Cameron on the show,

1343
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,920
We're going to have this conversation. I'm gonna call Jim

1344
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,119
up the next week. Jim, if you're listening anytime, sir.

1345
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 2: Uh invite me. I'd love to be here.

1346
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure a few people would love to be

1347
01:08:40,119 --> 01:08:44,439
in the room for that conversation. But he goes in

1348
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,479
and then when he opens his eyes, he is now

1349
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,560
in the avatar suit while his while he's in a

1350
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,479
deep meditative sleep, if you will, in this actually in

1351
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,319
this whole case and everything while he's sleeping, and then

1352
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:02,560
he's often an adventure and anything that happens to that

1353
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:08,000
avatar body doesn't affect the guy who's sitting down, lying

1354
01:09:08,039 --> 01:09:11,840
down and sleeping. It's a video game, correct, it's you're

1355
01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:14,640
and the video game is a very crude analogy of that,

1356
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,760
where we are the soul, correct, and you're playing Mario Brothers,

1357
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,680
and Mario is jumping you know things in any and

1358
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,399
whatever happens to him doesn't affect you. You might feel it,

1359
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:28,600
you might feel.

1360
01:09:28,279 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: The pain of why did I die? Pain?

1361
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: You don't feel no, no, no, But the soul emotionally, emotionally

1362
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,479
and physically correct Emotionally, you'd be like, oh, why did

1363
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:42,279
that happen? Oh make a left, ah, I need to

1364
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:46,039
do that. So that's the analogy of the soul and

1365
01:09:46,039 --> 01:09:48,880
and the illusion, correct, And that's but the thing is

1366
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,880
the illusion. I have to imagine that Mario really really

1367
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,640
believes that he is in a place with mushrooms and

1368
01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:00,520
a giant monkey throwing absolutely right, you know there there

1369
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,079
is definitely there's when you're in it, you have to

1370
01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:06,800
believe it or else what's the point, right? I mean?

1371
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:09,239
Speaker 2: And that's the whole point of forgetting is because would

1372
01:10:09,279 --> 01:10:11,399
you follow through with what you were about to experience.

1373
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:12,760
Hell no, no.

1374
01:10:13,119 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: If I remember if with avatar, like when it comes

1375
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:22,760
out into the avatar body, we'll be right back after

1376
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:28,880
a word from our sponsor. And now back to the show.

1377
01:10:31,159 --> 01:10:33,960
He can't walk. He has to learn how to walk again.

1378
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,520
He has to learn how to acclimate himself. Now, what

1379
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,600
he's able to do is moves very quickly for story purposes.

1380
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:41,119
Speaker 2: Correct.

1381
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: But when we come in, we come in as a

1382
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:49,520
defenseless little thing and we have to relearn everything everything.

1383
01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:52,600
And then the family we choose to come in, which

1384
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,600
we all have soul contracts with that soul family. They're

1385
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,079
they're like, we're gonna go ahead of you when you come.

1386
01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:00,840
We'll walk, we'll protect you, we'll get you were or

1387
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,399
we'll teach you the lessons that you want us to

1388
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,880
teach you, whether that be trauma or whether that be

1389
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,000
love or a combination of both. You know, like I

1390
01:11:09,079 --> 01:11:11,520
really want to I want to be Buddhist in this life. Great,

1391
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,800
you're gonna be born I'll be Buddhist too. We'll be

1392
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,039
born in China or actually Tibet. Let's do Tibet. It's

1393
01:11:17,039 --> 01:11:21,760
a little safer, right, right, So what you will be

1394
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,359
born to it will be Tibetan Tibetans this time, and

1395
01:11:24,359 --> 01:11:26,399
we'll be Buddhist Tibetan. So when you show up, we'll

1396
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,960
teach you Buddhism and you can walk down that path

1397
01:11:30,039 --> 01:11:33,119
in this journey and experience that, or you're going to

1398
01:11:33,359 --> 01:11:35,359
you know what, I want to discover it for myself. Great,

1399
01:11:35,359 --> 01:11:37,880
we're going to be born Catholic then, and then you're

1400
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,640
going to be the black sheep of the family. You're

1401
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,359
going to go off on a journey yourself, because that's

1402
01:11:41,359 --> 01:11:43,560
the kind of path you want to walk, you know.

1403
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,720
It's when you start looking at it like.

1404
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,359
Speaker 2: That, that's exactly what it is. So from like you

1405
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,199
just said it, you chose your parents, right, but you also,

1406
01:11:52,279 --> 01:11:54,119
and I need to make this very clear, you also

1407
01:11:54,199 --> 01:11:55,680
chose your way out of the dream.

1408
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:57,039
Speaker 1: Okay.

1409
01:11:57,399 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: So how you chose to exit it is perfectly and

1410
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:03,840
however it is, whether it's being murdered, wearing a stab

1411
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,359
to death, burning in a car, or dying in your sleep.

1412
01:12:06,399 --> 01:12:08,640
Dying in your sleep doesn't matter. You wrote your way

1413
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:09,560
out of it, okay.

1414
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: Now do you from my understanding and after all the

1415
01:12:14,039 --> 01:12:17,680
conversations I've had, when you're laying out your soul blueprint,

1416
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,479
from my understanding of a soul contractor sole blueprint is

1417
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,960
that you lay down mile markers. I call them mile markers. Yes,

1418
01:12:26,079 --> 01:12:29,319
these are things that are irrefutable. These are going to happen.

1419
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,279
You really have no choice in the matter.

1420
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 2: You're going to reach them. You want to get marriage,

1421
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:34,880
You're gonna have married, You're gonna have cads.

1422
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna work in this field. You're gonna work in

1423
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,880
this field. You're gonna do this job. You're like, you know, oh,

1424
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,800
I got a job at Disney because I'm an animator,

1425
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,960
and you're gonna Yeah, you're gonna get there and then whatever.

1426
01:12:43,039 --> 01:12:45,359
Speaker 2: But how you get there, that's the thing, is your

1427
01:12:45,359 --> 01:12:45,880
free will.

1428
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: Correct. So there's gonna be these mile markers that you

1429
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,279
can kind of how you get there is completely up

1430
01:12:51,319 --> 01:12:51,520
to you.

1431
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,319
Speaker 2: But you will hit but you'll end up there.

1432
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:58,039
Speaker 1: No more like you're being born in America in twenty twenty.

1433
01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:00,880
That was a choice, correct, And there's nothing you could

1434
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,119
do about that, That's correct. The parents you got nothing

1435
01:13:03,119 --> 01:13:05,279
you could do about that. These are things that are

1436
01:13:05,279 --> 01:13:07,640
in your path. How you get how you deal with it,

1437
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,960
and how you get through these other mile markers, the

1438
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:14,560
people you meet that your soulmate, your marriages, all that

1439
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,319
kind of stuff. These are mile markers now, from what

1440
01:13:17,359 --> 01:13:22,880
I understand too, you set up exit exit points throughout

1441
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,600
the journey that if at a certain point in life

1442
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,279
you're like, you know, things aren't going really well. I

1443
01:13:27,279 --> 01:13:29,840
think I need a wake up call near death experience.

1444
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:32,680
Does that make sense?

1445
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:37,159
Speaker 2: It does because without that experience of having that near death.

1446
01:13:37,079 --> 01:13:39,199
Speaker 1: Experience, what would have happened if you didn't have I mean.

1447
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,119
Speaker 2: I mean, I would be doing what I was doing now,

1448
01:13:42,159 --> 01:13:45,560
which was a dead end job, going nowhere, scraping the bottom.

1449
01:13:45,319 --> 01:13:47,279
Speaker 1: Of the barrel, hitting your head against the wall, right.

1450
01:13:47,159 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: Basically, you know, taking my head and pounding it on

1451
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,920
the concrete all day, you know, going nowhere, right. And

1452
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,119
that was like you were just saying, it's an excellent example.

1453
01:13:55,159 --> 01:13:57,520
You maral markers. By the time I hit mile marker

1454
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,319
maybe D or E. Right, God said, if you don't,

1455
01:14:01,039 --> 01:14:03,399
you don't get on the path that I need you on.

1456
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,479
This is what's going to happen. Right, We're gonna nudge it.

1457
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:07,680
And that's exactly what happened.

1458
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,279
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. So, uh, though I've always

1459
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,680
I always teach when I talk to people that the universe.

1460
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,560
I use the word universe, God, whatever you want to

1461
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,439
call it gives you a little whisper, then gives you

1462
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,119
a little tap on the shoulder, starts giving you a

1463
01:14:25,119 --> 01:14:28,439
little nudge, and it just keeps getting a little bit

1464
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,520
stronger every time until the sledgehammer comes because you're not

1465
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,920
listening correct and near death experience it's pretty much the

1466
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,560
biggest sledgehammer there is.

1467
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:41,039
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's it's an explosion of truth.

1468
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:44,119
Speaker 1: So were you before the near death experience? Were you

1469
01:14:44,319 --> 01:14:47,800
feeling nudges that you were ignoring? Were you anything anything

1470
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,439
that was going to point you into direction you were was?

1471
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,199
In other words, was there was there a timeline.

1472
01:14:54,399 --> 01:14:58,199
Speaker 2: From early on? You know, even in high school, you know,

1473
01:14:58,399 --> 01:15:00,640
my teachers would say, you know, and I'd essays or

1474
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,359
to have to speak in front of the class. They

1475
01:15:02,399 --> 01:15:06,479
were like, wow, you know, you should become a teacher.

1476
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,239
You you know, you had me engaged. You know, I

1477
01:15:09,359 --> 01:15:13,479
was thoroughly enjoying you speaking, and I'm like, I have

1478
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,760
no desire to teach. Right even when I got into

1479
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,239
college and my my history professor was like, Jason, would

1480
01:15:19,279 --> 01:15:22,079
you please teach? You know, we'll take care of you know,

1481
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:24,319
all your will take care of the money. You know,

1482
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,600
you'll please teach, And I'm like, I have no desire

1483
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,039
to see being a teacher. And you know, then my

1484
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:35,640
mom asked me a question early on in my twenties,

1485
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,119
like twenty three or twenty five, and she was just

1486
01:15:38,119 --> 01:15:40,319
sitting there and I was explaining things to her, and

1487
01:15:40,359 --> 01:15:42,720
she goes, you need to be a teacher.

1488
01:15:43,319 --> 01:15:44,520
Speaker 1: So you were getting signals.

1489
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,279
Speaker 2: I was getting signals and I'm like, you know, and

1490
01:15:47,319 --> 01:15:51,560
I was like no, and they say, you teach. You know,

1491
01:15:52,359 --> 01:15:54,479
my mom is very uneducated. She doesn't even have a

1492
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,319
high school education. So she goes, but you explain things

1493
01:16:01,279 --> 01:16:04,199
in such a way that I don't feel ignorant or stupid.

1494
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,199
That you could talk to anybody and you sense where

1495
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:11,960
they're at. That's the EmPATH and you can teach them

1496
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,720
in a very safe and secure manner, right. And it's

1497
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,960
very comforting to those that you know may not know

1498
01:16:19,079 --> 01:16:22,239
the truth, that feel ignorant asking that question, that I

1499
01:16:22,279 --> 01:16:25,239
can come up to them and answer that question. So yes,

1500
01:16:25,279 --> 01:16:27,680
I was getting those nudges and I kept no, there's

1501
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,600
no way, no way, no way. And now if somebody said, Jason,

1502
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,000
you know you're going to be a tog, a teacher

1503
01:16:34,039 --> 01:16:37,239
of God, you know like that.

1504
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: You know.

1505
01:16:39,319 --> 01:16:41,359
Speaker 2: I would have said, you can go to There's no

1506
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,039
way I'm going to, you know, be a preacher or this,

1507
01:16:44,079 --> 01:16:46,279
that or that. And here I am. After my near

1508
01:16:46,319 --> 01:16:50,479
death experience. I knew it. I knew exactly what I

1509
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,960
needed to do. And I found out this October third,

1510
01:16:54,119 --> 01:16:58,079
from a divine spiritual experience that I am in alignment

1511
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,920
with my higher self what I came here to do.

1512
01:17:02,039 --> 01:17:04,159
Speaker 1: Now did you say, did you already discuss what happened

1513
01:17:04,199 --> 01:17:06,600
to you? Or no? No, what happened to October there?

1514
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,199
Speaker 2: So well I'd have to back up too.

1515
01:17:09,239 --> 01:17:10,359
Speaker 1: And this is a few months ago from this.

1516
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 2: This is a few months ago. But let me back

1517
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,520
up so because then you'll fully understand it. I had

1518
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,880
another I've had several meetings with angels.

1519
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,520
Speaker 1: Or guys or as one does.

1520
01:17:20,399 --> 01:17:25,159
Speaker 2: As just right on an everyday thing. But I had

1521
01:17:25,279 --> 01:17:27,880
I came out of sushi and I was trying to date,

1522
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,039
which was a bad idea. I wasn't ready yet, you know.

1523
01:17:31,399 --> 01:17:33,680
And so we had come out of sushi and there

1524
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,520
was a guy, a bum had a bag and a

1525
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,199
cane and it was just in rady clothes. Just sitting

1526
01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:43,159
at the end of my jeep and I was walking

1527
01:17:43,199 --> 01:17:44,840
up there and she was like, no, no, no, no, don't

1528
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,239
go talk to him. I said no, no, and we

1529
01:17:48,279 --> 01:17:51,239
walked up to him and he was like, Hi, how

1530
01:17:51,239 --> 01:17:54,680
are you just smiling at me? And all of a sudden,

1531
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,359
I'm just feeling this energy and I'm like and I'm like,

1532
01:17:58,359 --> 01:18:03,000
what is going on? And you love video games and

1533
01:18:03,119 --> 01:18:06,880
I'm like, this guy, you know what? Oh, look at

1534
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:12,279
a time twelve twelve. Here we go. I gotcha. And

1535
01:18:12,359 --> 01:18:16,079
I'm like, something's going on I'm feeling and he goes,

1536
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,359
you know, I'm in Wisconsin to help, you know, my

1537
01:18:21,039 --> 01:18:23,840
partner get a divorce, and he looked right at her.

1538
01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:26,359
She was going through divorce. You help her to here

1539
01:18:26,399 --> 01:18:29,239
get a divorce and she freaked out, like how does

1540
01:18:29,279 --> 01:18:32,319
he know that? And you know, I'm you know, I'm

1541
01:18:32,319 --> 01:18:34,960
headed towards econom walk where we were thinking of moving,

1542
01:18:35,039 --> 01:18:39,000
and she and her face just went white. He goes, yeah,

1543
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,760
I'm here to help, and he's staring right at her,

1544
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:45,479
to help her get a divorce, and can I go

1545
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,039
sit in the jeep? And she grabbed the keys and

1546
01:18:47,119 --> 01:18:52,680
ran in there, locked and we were talking. He goes,

1547
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,560
you know, he's talking about certain things, and I'm like,

1548
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,319
what is going on. I'm feeling a real big tug

1549
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:03,800
here with energy. We're exchanging energy on a massive level.

1550
01:19:04,199 --> 01:19:09,119
And I'm like, he goes, you know, it's really about

1551
01:19:09,159 --> 01:19:12,840
the love, and he's just smiling at me just and

1552
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,880
he goes, you know, it's really about the love. And

1553
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,680
I'm trying to process what is going what's taking place here?

1554
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:22,239
I can something's up right. And then a third time,

1555
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,960
he put out his fist bump and he goes, it's

1556
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,920
really about the love. And I said, and I gave

1557
01:19:28,039 --> 01:19:30,840
him a fist bump and his hand was cold, like

1558
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,159
not temperature cold, but there's nothing in it like a

1559
01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:37,239
dead body, right, And I'm like and that's the second

1560
01:19:37,239 --> 01:19:39,039
time that happened to me. And I'm like, yes, it

1561
01:19:39,159 --> 01:19:42,600
is about the love. And I said, three years ago,

1562
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,880
I had a near death experience. And he sat up

1563
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,920
and he looked at me and he goes, I know

1564
01:19:47,039 --> 01:19:51,199
you did. And I'm like, whoa, Okay, what's going on?

1565
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,920
And I went to turn to look to see if

1566
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,239
she was okay, and then I turned back and now

1567
01:19:56,279 --> 01:19:58,640
he's standing in front of me, and I'm like but

1568
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:03,960
there was no noise. I'm like, your name is Jason, right,

1569
01:20:04,039 --> 01:20:09,720
and I'm okay, what's going on? And I'm like, oh

1570
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,119
my god, is he done? And I'm like, he goes,

1571
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,479
you kind of scrape in the bottom of the barrel,

1572
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:18,359
and I'm like, what else is new? I said yeah,

1573
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,319
and he goes, you know, I'm an alcoholic.

1574
01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1575
01:20:28,359 --> 01:20:29,640
and now back to the show.

1576
01:20:32,279 --> 01:20:36,079
Speaker 2: And I said I'm sorry, and I said, I drank.

1577
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,439
You know, I drank quite a bit last month. I

1578
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,319
was one hundred and ten. I said, you drank one

1579
01:20:40,359 --> 01:20:45,920
hundred and ten thousand dollars worth of booze? And I said.

1580
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:47,800
He said, you know where I could get a drink?

1581
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,319
And I said, right there, there's a dire's a bar,

1582
01:20:51,039 --> 01:20:54,439
right And he said would you walk with me? And

1583
01:20:55,319 --> 01:20:58,920
I said sure, and I grabbed his bag in his

1584
01:20:59,039 --> 01:21:01,560
cane and I gave it to him. Now, this is

1585
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,960
when he started walking in front of me, and he said,

1586
01:21:05,279 --> 01:21:08,079
would you be okay with that? I said okay with

1587
01:21:08,199 --> 01:21:12,760
what I said? Making one hundred and ten thousand a year,

1588
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,439
I said yeah, I said, I'm scraping the b yeah,

1589
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,600
and he says no, a month, and I'm like.

1590
01:21:20,399 --> 01:21:21,039
Speaker 1: Sure, why not?

1591
01:21:21,239 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, sure, right, he says great. He said, let's

1592
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,520
walk with me again, and he said, and he's not

1593
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,600
walking in front of me. He said, would you be

1594
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:34,159
willing to relocate? My god, we're sure.

1595
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:35,239
Speaker 1: Where were you there?

1596
01:21:35,319 --> 01:21:38,359
Speaker 2: I was at Wisconsin, Wisconsin, right, just a little bit

1597
01:21:38,399 --> 01:21:46,239
outside Milwaukee, Wisconsin, right, And I said, yeah, I lived

1598
01:21:46,359 --> 01:21:48,680
my whole life there, so I know him very well.

1599
01:21:49,119 --> 01:21:52,479
So I said, yeah, sure. He goes great, he said hmm,

1600
01:21:54,279 --> 01:21:57,000
and he was humming. He's he said, He turned around.

1601
01:21:57,039 --> 01:22:02,279
He goes, how about Sacramento, California.

1602
01:22:03,319 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: The most affordable of this thing? Right?

1603
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I saw a person scraping the bottom

1604
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,800
of the barrel. Is really going to make it in California?

1605
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,600
And I'm like, sure for that kind of money? So

1606
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,640
we're talking one point three million somewhere in there. Yeah, okay,

1607
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,159
oh sure, I'm okay, great, So.

1608
01:22:17,119 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: It's about one hundred thousand when you're done with.

1609
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 2: The Texas at Yeah, it's right, you know, with the

1610
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,840
added extra four percent that they're going to take out

1611
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,000
for what I don't know, but you know, but sure

1612
01:22:27,079 --> 01:22:29,640
for California. Right, He's great, So now we're walking and

1613
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,920
we're talking and he's like, Jason, it was nice to

1614
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,479
see you. And we got it. I got him into

1615
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,640
the Texas Roadhouse, into the thing, and when we walked in,

1616
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,399
nobody was paying attention to us, Like nobody would even

1617
01:22:44,399 --> 01:22:47,920
look at us, like glitching the matrix, right, so they're off,

1618
01:22:48,039 --> 01:22:51,039
you know. It got him to the bar and he says, Jason,

1619
01:22:51,199 --> 01:22:56,000
you'll hear from me again soon. Okay, I never told

1620
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,720
you my name. I'm like, what is going on? I

1621
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,119
can't put one? And I said, you know, thank you.

1622
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:05,800
I said, I hope you enjoy your stay in Wisconsin.

1623
01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:08,359
And I was turning to walk out. And when I

1624
01:23:08,399 --> 01:23:11,920
turned to walk out, I go over and there's nobody there.

1625
01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:15,920
He's gone all right, and now I'm going out. I

1626
01:23:16,239 --> 01:23:17,840
kind of high tailed it to the jeep and I'm

1627
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,840
like and by this time, I'm like physically exhausted. I'm

1628
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:21,680
like wiped out.

1629
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: So when you say you're wiped out that energy energy, yes,

1630
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,840
the energy your body can't.

1631
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: Couldn't take a higher process, a higher yeah, the capacity right.

1632
01:23:31,319 --> 01:23:34,279
So I'm feeling tired and I'm like, oh my god,

1633
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:38,039
I said, she goes, who was that now? This is

1634
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,520
the second time I had met this individual. The first

1635
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,520
time he looked different, okay, but this time he had

1636
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,600
the same square jaw, the same beard, but this time

1637
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,439
it was a dark red and his hair was the

1638
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:54,079
same exact same haircut, but red. And I got back

1639
01:23:54,079 --> 01:23:56,680
to my house and I'm like, oh my god, I

1640
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,560
know who that was. That was Archangel Michael. I saw

1641
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,880
him less than a year ago, about six months ago

1642
01:24:04,079 --> 01:24:06,600
in my workplace, very very very very early in the

1643
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,960
morning when I was only there and kind of the

1644
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,119
same situation happened, not money wise this time, but different,

1645
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:19,199
and I was like, oh my god, right then, So

1646
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,479
what happened? In the end of twenty twenty four, I

1647
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,479
came home from work and this was the start of

1648
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,079
my transition and where I'm living now in California. I

1649
01:24:27,119 --> 01:24:30,039
walked in and my apartment was ransacked, but the door

1650
01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:34,199
was locked from the dead bolt and my regular lock,

1651
01:24:34,279 --> 01:24:36,159
and so I unlocked the door. All the lights are on.

1652
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,199
I look around, my computer chairs pulled out, turned around

1653
01:24:40,199 --> 01:24:43,960
facing towards This isn't Sacramento, No, this was in Wisconsin, right, so,

1654
01:24:44,359 --> 01:24:46,640
and I my couch is to shlve. All the pillows

1655
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,800
are thrown on the floor, my stuffed animal, thrown down,

1656
01:24:49,359 --> 01:24:53,079
blankets all over the place, light on my kitchen, lights

1657
01:24:53,079 --> 01:24:54,760
on on my and all of a sudden, I feel

1658
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,119
this weird energy, like what is going on? But nothing

1659
01:24:58,199 --> 01:25:00,760
was taken. My iPad was right there, brand new iPad

1660
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,640
air sixty three inch plasma TV, brand new computer. Right,

1661
01:25:05,319 --> 01:25:07,800
everything is here, my snake is there. And I'm like,

1662
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,399
what is going on? And I creeping down the hall

1663
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,800
and I turned on the light my second bedroom. They

1664
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,720
had completely destroyed the bed, ripped off all the covers,

1665
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,840
all the pillows, even the form the blanket that hugs

1666
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:21,760
the everything was ripped off, thrown on the floor. I

1667
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,880
go into my room. My room is dishoveled, bed torn apart,

1668
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,640
and I'm like, I'm like, I couldn't figure out what

1669
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,359
was going on. So I'm calling a few people, a

1670
01:25:31,359 --> 01:25:34,359
couple of mediums. And they said, couple of mediums, A

1671
01:25:34,359 --> 01:25:38,359
couple of mediums, and I'm just friends with them through

1672
01:25:38,399 --> 01:25:40,560
ions and they're.

1673
01:25:40,319 --> 01:25:44,119
Speaker 1: Like, Jason, a couple so I understand, right.

1674
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,520
Speaker 2: So and they said, Jason, something big is about to

1675
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,760
happen in your life. Changes are coming, and I'm like,

1676
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,840
so we're going to fast forward to now this last

1677
01:25:55,359 --> 01:26:03,039
July or July of this year, somehow I lost my job, yeah, right,

1678
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,079
could not find a job in the same field that

1679
01:26:06,119 --> 01:26:10,079
I've been working in my whole life. Everything was instantly denied,

1680
01:26:10,119 --> 01:26:12,880
no callbacks. I was looking for places to stay. My

1681
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,359
rent shot up like way way too much. Nobody got

1682
01:26:17,399 --> 01:26:21,039
back to me now right, And from that point, I'm like,

1683
01:26:21,039 --> 01:26:23,279
what am I going to do? And that's when that

1684
01:26:23,359 --> 01:26:27,920
dawned on me that that was the non physical destroying

1685
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:31,880
my apartment, saying these are the changes that are happening.

1686
01:26:32,039 --> 01:26:35,479
And they forced me out of my comfort zone and

1687
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,039
pushed me to Sacramento. So I got the Sacramento didn't

1688
01:26:39,079 --> 01:26:41,239
have a good experience, and I'm like, because now I'm

1689
01:26:41,239 --> 01:26:43,319
living in my car, I have no job, I have

1690
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,680
no place to live. I got kicked out of the

1691
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:48,760
truck stop in Sacramento. They wouldn't allow me to the

1692
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,399
police kick me out. I'm like, I need this. So

1693
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,760
I found a place in Lodi and I was there

1694
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:58,279
for a couple months. LOADI California and I was just

1695
01:26:58,319 --> 01:27:02,399
sleeping in my truck stop, right and October third rolled

1696
01:27:02,399 --> 01:27:05,640
around and got up, went to the bathroom as like

1697
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,960
a normal thing. And then this person was standing in

1698
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,760
the lobby just staring at me. Again, nobody even paying

1699
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,039
attention to him or whatsoever. And he's looking at me

1700
01:27:15,079 --> 01:27:18,119
and he just smiled at me, and I'm like, hi,

1701
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,760
you know. And then I went and did bathroom. All

1702
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,319
of a sudden, when I got into the bathroom, he

1703
01:27:22,359 --> 01:27:24,000
was in the bathroom, but I just passed him in

1704
01:27:24,039 --> 01:27:27,960
the lobby and I'm like, but people are walking by him,

1705
01:27:28,319 --> 01:27:30,920
not even paying attention, don't even know he even exists. Right,

1706
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,039
I went to the bathroom. Now he's at the same

1707
01:27:33,119 --> 01:27:37,199
wash station. I'm washing my hands and he's like, Hi, Hi,

1708
01:27:38,119 --> 01:27:40,840
you know, and walked around. And then all of a sudden,

1709
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,880
I got done wash my hands. He's gone. You would

1710
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:45,920
hear somebody leaving, but he was just gone. Then he

1711
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,119
was out in the lobby and I walked by him.

1712
01:27:48,159 --> 01:27:50,800
I said, have a great day. And then I saw

1713
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,840
him walk in front of my jeep staring. We're locking

1714
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:55,239
eyes like you and I are right, And he got

1715
01:27:55,279 --> 01:28:00,279
his car pulled next to me and he said started

1716
01:28:00,319 --> 01:28:07,359
talking about things, and he goes, you're Jason right, Like

1717
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:13,640
he says, you're in alignment and you're powerful. You need

1718
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,840
to move now. And I'm like, who are you? He goes,

1719
01:28:17,159 --> 01:28:19,720
I'm just like you. I said, no, you're not. I

1720
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:23,920
can feel you. Who are you? He said, Jason, you

1721
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:30,319
put me here and I'm like, I've been living in

1722
01:28:30,359 --> 01:28:31,279
my car for two months.

1723
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: What do you talk?

1724
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 2: He says? I said, look around you look and I said,

1725
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,560
that's all me and I'm talking about things. Jason, you're

1726
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,479
teaching me nothing that I don't already know. I'm like,

1727
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,640
you're either a master or you're an angel. Who are you?

1728
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:48,000
I said? He said, Jason, you put me here. You

1729
01:28:48,119 --> 01:28:54,760
need to move now. Somebody needs you move where. He said,

1730
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:58,920
you are in alignment and you are powerful. You need

1731
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:06,119
to move. And he said for the job interview, he

1732
01:29:06,159 --> 01:29:10,479
said he's looking gee and it's dishovel. He said, you

1733
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,560
need to get some new clothes. And he says, do

1734
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,800
not talk about your spirituality.

1735
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,039
Speaker 1: Do not what job.

1736
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,159
Speaker 2: I've been denied jobs. I said, you guys won't let

1737
01:29:25,159 --> 01:29:27,279
me have a job. And now all of a sudden,

1738
01:29:27,279 --> 01:29:29,359
I need to pick up and move where I knew

1739
01:29:29,399 --> 01:29:32,079
where it was, back up the Sacramento because that's where

1740
01:29:32,119 --> 01:29:34,760
would you be willing to relocate? Right? That's where and

1741
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,680
that morning I woke up. My phone wouldn't work, phone

1742
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:39,640
was cut off. I couldn't make phone calls, I couldn't

1743
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:45,119
access the internet, write nothing. So that incident took about

1744
01:29:45,159 --> 01:29:46,720
forty minutes. And then he got in his car and

1745
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,840
drove away. And I'm like, when you hear that you're

1746
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,880
in alignment, that means you're in alignment with your soul's

1747
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,560
your highest version of yourself, meaning you're in alignment with

1748
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,640
what you came here to do. Right, But like, who

1749
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,439
needs me? Where do I need to go? I mean,

1750
01:30:03,079 --> 01:30:04,800
and then all of a sudden, I got this job.

1751
01:30:05,199 --> 01:30:07,840
But did I talk about the spirituality? Nothing? And now

1752
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,000
I got this job. It's a worthless job. I mean,

1753
01:30:10,039 --> 01:30:12,359
it's getting me by, not even getting me by, because

1754
01:30:12,359 --> 01:30:16,680
I'm living in I bounce from crappy motel to crappy

1755
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,720
motel at the time. Right, But I have I'm grateful

1756
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,960
because when I wake up, I do have a shower

1757
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,279
to take, I have a little mini fridge, I can

1758
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:27,960
have cold water, and I have a place to lay down.

1759
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:29,680
But is it a home yet?

1760
01:30:30,279 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: No, We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1761
01:30:38,319 --> 01:30:39,600
and now back to the show.

1762
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes you still need to be broken further in order

1763
01:30:48,079 --> 01:30:51,680
to see the true version of yourself. While I was

1764
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:56,039
in Lodi, right, I've been having these immense, vivid or

1765
01:30:56,319 --> 01:31:01,199
lucid dreams, and they were showing me exactly my height,

1766
01:31:01,239 --> 01:31:06,119
the success, the wealth, the everything right, but I can't

1767
01:31:06,119 --> 01:31:09,680
remember it. And this has happened now four times. There

1768
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,199
he's showing me that this is here, it's happening. It's

1769
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:16,479
it's like you walking. If you're walking continuously left, right,

1770
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,840
going around left, your whole life just and then all

1771
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,640
of a sudden you decide, I'm tired of going left.

1772
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:23,640
I want to go right. Okay, so now you start

1773
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,840
walking right. That version of yourself is still walking left.

1774
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:28,720
You have to understand that there's a version of you

1775
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,239
walking right. There's a version of you now that is

1776
01:31:31,319 --> 01:31:34,359
walking right, and there's a version that is still walking

1777
01:31:34,399 --> 01:31:37,239
behind you right. Those versions of all your you know

1778
01:31:37,399 --> 01:31:40,960
yourself is still taking place. You have one hundred different

1779
01:31:41,039 --> 01:31:43,760
versions of yourself right now, someone that is laying in

1780
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:47,239
a ditch, dirt poor, an addict, or someone that's barely

1781
01:31:47,239 --> 01:31:50,680
scraping by. You know that you have many versions of yourself.

1782
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: You're talking about timelines.

1783
01:31:52,039 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 2: Right in your timeline that you're in right now. There

1784
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:59,239
are one hundred different versions of yourself. Okay, So they

1785
01:31:59,319 --> 01:32:03,520
were showing the alignment of my soul's purpose, my higher

1786
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,319
self that I can't reach any higher that is the

1787
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:11,119
ultimate level to be at. Right. So sometimes and I'm like,

1788
01:32:11,119 --> 01:32:13,600
then why am i? Why am I in this job?

1789
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,279
Why why am I going through this? You know, I

1790
01:32:16,319 --> 01:32:18,439
went through my dear and I'm on the spiritual path. Now,

1791
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,720
why are you putting me back into something that's dead,

1792
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,880
that doesn't exist because the past doesn't exist. Everything in

1793
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,520
the world that is happening or in your life is now.

1794
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:30,800
It's everything is now, okay. There is nothing two minutes

1795
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,880
ago or you know, five hours from now, it doesn't exist.

1796
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,800
Everything's happening now. So why am I in this? Why

1797
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,840
did you put me in this situation? And then this

1798
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:41,640
image was given to me. It's like when you see

1799
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:45,119
an archer pulling back a bow right to pull that

1800
01:32:45,279 --> 01:32:48,640
arrow back. But sometimes you reach into the past, your

1801
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:53,399
old life before that arrow is let go into what

1802
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:54,000
is coming.

1803
01:32:54,399 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: And so you can actually turn that the other way correct,

1804
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:01,960
and you got to go down right until right, so

1805
01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:05,560
farther the farther you go down the farther you're going

1806
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:05,720
to go.

1807
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 2: That's correct when that arrow goes right, and that there's

1808
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,640
what is taking place in my life right now. So

1809
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,039
it may seem like, well, he's just homeless, he's a bum,

1810
01:33:13,039 --> 01:33:16,800
he's this, he's that. Oh no, no, I'm being prepared

1811
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:20,960
for and molded for what is coming. And we as

1812
01:33:21,039 --> 01:33:24,479
that this species is very impatient. It wants now. It

1813
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:28,800
wants everything now, instant gratification. Right. If I want an apple,

1814
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:30,439
I want an apple now. If I want this, I'm

1815
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:34,159
going to go right. It wants that. And sometimes, you know,

1816
01:33:34,199 --> 01:33:36,640
it's divine timing. It's all divine timing.

1817
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: So what's really interesting is you're saying that everybody, everybody

1818
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:45,920
wants things now now. Now. There's a series that's on

1819
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:49,199
our streaming platform called Wrote to Dharma where Yogi takes

1820
01:33:49,319 --> 01:33:51,079
a group of people into the mla is on a

1821
01:33:51,079 --> 01:33:57,399
motorcycle ride. It's a wonderful series. And you know, a

1822
01:33:57,399 --> 01:33:59,319
lot of these people come from the from the West

1823
01:34:00,199 --> 01:34:02,439
and they are in the himal and they like and

1824
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,000
they're basically expecting this to be kind of like this

1825
01:34:05,119 --> 01:34:08,880
cool little retreat and we're going, you know, do yoga

1826
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:11,960
and the Himalayas and I can instagram this shot and

1827
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:17,399
all this kind of stuff, and the Yogi's like, no, right,

1828
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,319
we are here to transcend. Yes, that was what he said,

1829
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:26,079
was so so profound. You are here to transcend and

1830
01:34:26,119 --> 01:34:29,079
this is not an easy path. And he basically starts

1831
01:34:29,079 --> 01:34:32,000
showing the mirror to everybody. And that's not a fun thing.

1832
01:34:32,039 --> 01:34:36,960
But most people want enlightenment like they want fast food, right,

1833
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:43,560
But enlightenment, self realization, awakening from the dream takes time

1834
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:49,119
and dedication and dedication and struggle, and it's not and

1835
01:34:49,159 --> 01:34:53,159
there's pain all of it. It's again back to the matrix.

1836
01:34:53,239 --> 01:34:56,399
When Neo wakes up from the matrix and is brought

1837
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:58,920
into the real world, it is one of the most

1838
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,880
painful things. You know, the big the tubes and he's

1839
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,039
in the thing and then he's flushed down a toilet

1840
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:07,399
essentially and all this and you know it's all of

1841
01:35:07,399 --> 01:35:10,600
the his muscles are atrophied, all this kind of stuff.

1842
01:35:11,119 --> 01:35:14,199
Because that's in the great analogy of what it's like

1843
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,640
to wake up. It's going to be painful. Right.

1844
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,680
Speaker 2: Everybody thinks that having this near death experience is beautiful

1845
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:25,479
and wonderful, Tell you right, and tell you. But not

1846
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:28,439
only that when that happens, but then you know, I

1847
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,840
went two years or three years later, I went through

1848
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,199
my ascension process into the five D. That was brutally painful.

1849
01:35:34,239 --> 01:35:37,600
I lost seventy five pounds, I was sick, I quit eating,

1850
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,439
I was dizzy, I fell out of the shower. I

1851
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:41,560
lost my job again.

1852
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 1: There's a pattern here.

1853
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:46,760
Speaker 2: That was a yeah, right, because what they're doing is

1854
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:50,199
they're building me to my highest self. Right, because this

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is the path that has to be taken. It's not easy.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're building your capacity correct.

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Speaker 2: So I transitioned from the carbon based body into the

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crystalline body. So what was taking place is higher energy

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light is entering my body. My DNA is being was

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rewritten on a cellular level, transitioning from a carbon into

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a silica base. Do you understand how painful that is?

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I was an excruciating pain. And that night was the

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first night I controlled healing my body, just like Jesus did.

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I was in the middle of my ascension and I'm

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telling you all, it was brutally painful. Brutally painful when

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I went through this, and my back pain was on

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an unimaginable level. I mean, I was beginning to sob unconditionally.

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It hurts, so I could not lay on my side

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on my back. I would have to turn every second

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to try and find comfort, and I couldn't. I got

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up and started walking, and I'm just in utter pain,

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just sobbing during this ascension. And then I laid back

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down in a fetal position, but my back was straight,

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and I began to breathe. I don't know how I

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began to do this, but I just began to breathe

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and control my breath. And then I said, I and

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the Father are one. And then I switched over to

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mind and body are one, right mind. And this went

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on for a while, and all of a sudden I

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became juiced. I was vibrating at such a high frequency,

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like every hair was standing up, and I could literally

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hear every heartbeat.

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Speaker 1: Boom boom, boom boom.

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, a ring of energy

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from the top of my crown chakra came down to

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the middle of my neck or right between my shoulder blades,

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and then it just stopped vibrating, and I said, make

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it go away in my mind, and it went down

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my spine and it crushed the pain in my lower

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back and it went from a thousand probably down to

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a twenty. And another ring came down and stopped right there,

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and I said, make it go away. And this is

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not out loud, and I'm just hearing my heartbeat and

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I'm feeling just me vibrating at such a high level.

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And it went down and it crushed the pain in

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my back. That is exactly how Jesus healed. Everybody could see.

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I could see the pain in my back, and I

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directed that healing energy to my lower back and it

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healed my back right. And then I because there was

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so much pain and I hadn't slept in a while,

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I passed out and I was like, anything I can do,

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you can do, and more came into my mind. I

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did exactly what Jesus did to Millennia go. But I

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healed myself. And when I when I will say, this

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is when you choose your parents, right, you create the body.

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The ego does, okay, and how does the body? How's

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the body created? Right? So when I just tell you,

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I juiced up and I raised my energy right, you vibrate,

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We vibrate so high, like I told you in my

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near death experience I was juiced. That was the same

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energy I was feeling that I was controlling. I was

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controlling my powers. We vibrate so high that when we

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begin to create our bodies, we lower our energy to

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such a low vibration that it begins to form physical mass.

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You begin to create your body. So when you get

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mom and dad to mate, right, that's it. The ego

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then begins to take over the body, and you know

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it as an infant we're born. That is how a

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body is formed. We lower our energy vibrations so low

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that it begins to form physical mass. And here we

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are the ego. You look exactly the way you look

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because that's the way your ego wants you to look.

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Same with me. That's how a baby or a fetus

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is formed. You lower your vibration and now you are

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controlling how you look.

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Speaker 1: And then the trick is to raise your vibration while

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still staying in the There you go, which is what

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the masters do.

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Speaker 2: That's what the masters do, and that is where I

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am headed.

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Speaker 1: That's we're all heading. Eventually, it could be all.

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Speaker 2: Of us, all of all of us, but you're all

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on your own individual path right and timeline. So you

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are all exactly where you need to be. So when

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people are watching this, I want you to understand that,

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don't feel like, well, Jason's better than No, I'm not

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better than anybody here. I'm just further along then on

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my journey than you are. That's it. Anything that I

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can do, you can do as well.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you this, all of you, go within.

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Do not seek anything outside yourself. You will find pain, misery,

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and death. Go within because that is where you are,

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That is where everything is that God gave you on

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this journey. You will find nothing outside yourself. It's all

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an illusion and a dream.

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Speaker 1: Jason, this has been a fascinating conversation. Brother. Where could

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people find out more about you and the work you're

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doing in the world.

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Speaker 2: Ah, they can find me. I have my website Loveanlightjason

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dot com, so you can find me there for one

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on ones or seminars or public speaking events. I'm more

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than happy to oblige you there, and of course my

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YouTube channel, Love and Light Jason.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome, my friend. Do you have any final words

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or messages for the audience.

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Speaker 2: I will always leave you with this. I love you

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all so very much. You are all beautiful, you are all perfect,

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and you are all divine, and you are all right

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where you need to be. And I ask you to

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just love one another as I love you. You're all perfect.

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Speaker 1: Jason. It has been a pleasure, my friend. Thank you

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so much for sharing all your stories, all your experiences,

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and hopefully it will help somebody on their path who's watching.

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And I shaite you and everything you doing to awaken

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this planet, my friend, So thank.

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Speaker 2: You absolutely again. Thank you Alex for having me. It's

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been an honor and a priligic heare It was a

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beautiful conversation.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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