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Now let's dive into today's episode. I like to welcome
to the show, Jason Janis Heyden.
Speaker 2: Jason, I'm fantastic. How are you are.
Speaker 1: I'm doing great, brother, Thank you so much for making
the trip down to the Next Level Soul Studio.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you again for having me. I'm truly honored.
Thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. My friend. So, we've been having a
lovely conversation prior to the recording, So I was like,
let's just start talking because this is gonna be fun.
So you died, I do, so tell me, no, So
what you tell me a little bit about what you were,
what was life like prior to your nd and then
we'll go deep down this lovely journey that you went
through once you died and came back.
Speaker 2: Sure, you know, as a young boy, I grew up
in a completely totally normal, you know, midwestern town in Illinois,
as a normal nineteen seventies boy. You know my address?
I didn't know it at the time was ten ten,
so I was That didn't dawn on me until later.
But I grew up as just a Catholic kid. My
grandparents gave me my religion because I don't know anything
if my parents were religious at all. I never some
god a church. I never had any interactions with them
in church. It was my grandparents. I gave it to me. So,
you know that Christianity was what I grew up on.
So as a young boy growing up, that's what I
was taught, and I believed truth of what I was
being taught because you know, why would your parents or
grandparents lie to you.
Speaker 1: I would just say, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's that's the background that I had in that.
You know, I had a very difficult life. I was
abused as a child, so I grew up with that.
I grew up with a lot of resentment hate. I
tried to save my sister from the beating, so I
took more beatings for her. My mother was a hardcore alcoholic,
and it was just an unpleasant childhood. So I became
very angry at a very young age. You know, I
learned how to cook early by the time I was
five or six, because meals were irregular at times. So
I learned how to cook from my grandparents. I learned
everything from my grandmother. That's how I grew up. But
I didn't realize that I was becoming more and more angry. Right,
God clearly doesn't love me. Clearly, right because the struggles
that I'm going through are like PhD level. Instead of
having cookies and ice cream and all this fun, I'm
being beaten and learning how to take care of things
and learn how to clean and all that. Like you know,
I mean I still had fun as a kid and
did you know, riding bikes and going to the pools
and stuff like that, but I was really in survival mode.
Speaker 1: Can I jump in here because this is something really
really important I want to kind of dive into before
you continue. Sure you were talking about that God doesn't
love me anymore. There's so many people, especially Catholics. I
was raised Catholic, as you know that when things are
when their lives are not going well, or if it's
a consistent pattern of like my God, I was raised
by abusive parents or had trauma as a child or
something like that, or even as an adult, that things
just keep having it just keep pounding, like life keeps
pounding you, and you're like, I go to church, I
do everything I'm supposed to do, and yet I'm not
getting to where I need to be or where i
want to be, And and then you start getting angry
and angry and angry, or to the point where you're like,
God doesn't love me anymore, which, as I say that
out loud, is such a ridiculous concept, because He loves
everything right. He loves everybody, he loves everything because he
made everything right. There there's no there's no mistakes exactly,
there's not one, not one single waste of a I mean,
if you look at just nature's ecosystem, everything works together,
even though we might not see it right, but we
but there is a system going on. So I just
wanted to kind of bring that to the spotlight a
little bit because so a lot of people watching this
might have the exact same feelings that.
Speaker 2: You do, right, and I'm sure there are, because a
lot of us chose very difficult lives and in the
life of a chosen one, our star seed, a light bearer,
God ask us for very difficult missions. Because you're the
bringer of light in darkness. What does light do to
the dark, it crushes it. When it's on right, there
is no darkness. So the light bearers, us star seeds,
are meant to do that, to bring the light into
the darkness and crush it. Be that love, be that
beacon of light. When somebody sees you, they may not
agree with your energy. Most people don't like me at all.
I mean, when I was sitting in the airport, people
just flew from where I was sitting. They want to
have nothing to do with me. Why I'm a mirror.
I'm shedding the light on their darkness, and they don't
like it. Right, they don't understand it. I do. But
that's why I had that difficult childhood. But I didn't
know it at the time. I just thought I was unloved,
you know. And it became more and more time it
became anger. Right Then, one morning I was about seventy
eight or seventy nine, so I was about eight or nine.
My grandmother woke me up to go to church, and
I come on, Jason, it's time to wake up, and
she you know, and I kicked her hard and I
sat up and I said, don't you ever wake me
up to go to church? Don't you ever? God hates me,
he doesn't love me. And she knew, and she started
to cry. Chase, I said, don't you ever, I'll take
care of myself. God doesn't love me anymore, you know.
And I mean I was an altar boy. She she
took me out of public school, put me into Catholic school.
So I read that Bible from cover to cover, and
I knew I was doomed. You know. I had some
sexual experiences as a younger person, with you know, a
bisexual experience. I was an abomination to my father. Clearly
he hated me, the abuse and everything. So I was like, clearly, okay,
I know where I'm doomed. I know where I'm going,
and said, don't you ever wake me up? Right? And
I had a very difficult life, I mean, robbing Peter
to pay Paul throughout my entire life, two failed marriages,
you know, a child that didn't love me at the
time or didn't care about me. And I'm like, clearly
God doesn't care, you know. And I know, and I
guess I've accepted my fate, you know, because I believed
in what I was taught. I believe that the Bible
was God's very breath has written word, you know, because
that's what Christianity shoved down my throat for years, of course,
you know. And I choked on it and I believed
on it. And then April second of twenty twenty came,
which profoundly changed my life and set me on this
path of teaching that I will not stop.
Speaker 1: So what happened in that date.
Speaker 2: April second was the day of my death. I came
home from this job I didn't like. I made a sandwich,
took a shower, and made a sandwich, sat down. It
was a bagel sandwich. I turned on the TV and
I was watching TV and I took a couple bites
and also I threw up, and I'm like, that was
the most wretched taste. It didn't even taste like eggs
and what I was eating. And I'm like, God, what
was that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And I was having difficulty breathing. And I was waking
up for the last couple of weeks with the taste
of blood in my mouth. No, And I'm like, did
I bite my tongue my lips and no, nothing hurts,
you know, And I'm like, what is And then I
went to take another bite and I coughed and up
came bright red blood and I'm like, not, you know,
when you cut your finger and it's dark red. This
was pink. And I'm like and I'm like and I'd
cough again. And I kept coughing at like every two
or three seconds, and I filled up my plate full
of blood, this pink blood, and it was horrible tasting.
I remember that, and I'm like, next thing I know,
I'm going, I'm I can't breathe, and I'm starting to panic,
like life is going on around you and I'm actively
dying and I'm like pan And I grabbed my cell
phone and I'm trying to get a hold of my
ex wife and cause she's a nurse and RN if
anybody can help me, she could.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, I need your answer the phone, and.
Speaker 2: She wouldn't answer the phone. And finally, on this you know,
fourth or fifth try, I was facetiming and I had
made it to the kitchen sink because now I'm filling
up the kitchen sink with this blood, and she's like,
what do you want? And I tried to speak and
blood covered the phone and I just remember her. One
of the last things I remember was like Jason, and
I said, I don't feel good. You know what I'm
you know, and I'm trying to breathe and you know, coughing,
and she goes. I said, I'm sorry. I'm going to
go lay down. And she said, Jason, if you lie down,
you're going to die. And I said, I said, I
don't feel good. I'm tired. I said, I'm just I'm
sorry to bother you. And I'm still coughing up this blood.
She says, Jason, if you lay down, you're going to die.
Please don't lay down, And I said I and she
hung up the phone. And that's the last thing. I'm like, Wow,
Why why couldn't our conversations be like that in our marriage,
you know? And I was like, and next thing I know,
I wake up in the hospital.
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And now back to the show.
Speaker 2: And she must have dialed nine one one and they
came in, but you were out. I was, I have
no clue of the ambulance or anything. And there was
a tube down my throat ivy in the carotid artery.
My hands and feet were strapped to the bed. I
couldn't move them more than an eighth of an inch, right,
stuff up my nose in a myriad of doctors. Now
it's dark out. I have no idea what day it is,
what what had taken place, how long I was gone
or out? And I have these doctors trying do you
know who you know? Who are you? Do you know
your name? And I'm I can't speak, I can't even
move my you know, and you're like, do you know
where you are? Like trying to answer questions, but I
have a two inch tube, you know, And I'm like.
Speaker 1: It's lovely when they do.
Speaker 2: That was the most brutal experience of my life. It
was when you see actors going through this on stage
and they just jump up and they're what, no, no,
you don't do that. It's brutal. It was the most
excruciating pain I've ever been in. Dying was very painful.
I was drowning. Basically, my cause of death was a
cute respiratory failure hypoxia, so I basically they pumped out
two point eight liters of blood from my lungs. That's
eleven point eight cups of blood. So I drown.
Speaker 1: So is this after you woke up or this?
Speaker 2: This was I woke up after so I when I
was facetiming her, she hung up called nine to one one,
and I don't I must have passed out somewhere in
either the kitchen or somewhere I don't know, so she
they came and got me in.
Speaker 1: But you weren't dead yet. No, okay, So.
Speaker 2: All I remember then was blackness, just black.
Speaker 1: You were out.
Speaker 2: I was out, and I woke up in the hospital
and this is where the ND took place, when I
don't know, I'm assuming a few days later, right, what
had to be a few days later. So I said,
you know, I was trying to say something, and I
was like, she goes, you won't pull the tubes and
stuff outing, And I said, you know, so I made
this like you want to write something, I'd write I itch,
just you know, because they were giving me a Ventanyl
for the pain. No, it wasn't. I know, I know
what you're saying. But the I you know, when you
see somebody like a coma state, their mind is fully active. Okay,
you're I mean I was having horrific hallucinations or you know,
like I was being kidnapped and dragged and all these kinds.
It was horrific. It was the most horrific experience of
my life. So I'm like, I itch, and I just
started scratching my body and they're like, Okay, he's not
going to do it. And I just laid there and
I the moment I awoke though up in the left
hand corner of where's a TV? And I didn't know
that the ICU was roomed, so they put me in
a different room. But right where that TV was there
was an undeniable presence. I could feel it, you know,
and it was strong and it was loving, and I
just it to go there, and I kept trying to
peek through the myriad of doctors. Then one day a
nurse came in and said, Jason, do you want me
to turn on the TV for you? And I'm no,
I mean, how do you tell somebody somebody standing there?
There's somebody right there. Okay, They're gonna think I'm nuts, right,
And I'm like no, you know, And I just kept
staring at the TV. And if I get emotional on you,
because I am gonna tell you exactly the way it happened,
and I'm already feeling it. So the nurses were gone,
everything was gone, and they had finally taken the tube
out and the IV and stuff like this. And it
was some like early afternoon, I don't know what day
it was, and I'm staring at the TV. There's nobody around.
And by this time I was so lethargic. I had
lost seventy five pounds, okay, so I was very weak.
I couldn't move my hands very much. But I got
up on my elbows and I just began shaking, uncontrollable
because I had no strength. Now, this is the first time, Alex,
since nineteen seventy seven, seventy eight, that I talked to God.
I abandoned him. I threw him out like garbage. I
threw Jesus out like garbage. And I stared at that
TV because that presence was there, and I just I
called out to God. I said, please don't let me die.
Please don't let me die. I had no business talking
to him, you know, with the things that I have
done in my life, I knew I was unworthy of him.
And I called out to him and I said, please
don't let me die. I love you, I said, I'd
never stop believing in you, but I quit having a
relationship with you, and I'm truly sorry.
Speaker 1: I said, I love Jesus.
Speaker 2: I said, I love you both. And I said, please
don't take my babies from me, please, And I'm feeling
unworthy of him, and I said, please let me see
them again. Please let me see them again. Because I
knew I was still dying. Something inside told me that
I was not done with this, and I wasn't. And
I said there was somebody in my life that which
is a twin flame. But I won't mention her name yet.
I said, please don't take her from me. Please, please
let me hold her hands, let me kiss her, let
me smell her breath. Let's make love again. And in
that moment, I was at the top of the ceiling
and I was in constant and I could see everything
around me, the nursing station, all thirty other patients on ventilators,
dying has gone, pain is gone. I was young again.
I was juiced, and I was vibrating at such a
high frequency, in constant this love and this light, and
I knew that I was God.
Speaker 1: I that was there.
Speaker 2: I was like wow, you know, And I was in
constant this love, and I knew that I had done
nothing wrong and that I was loved. For the first
time in my life. I was loved unconditionally. There was
no if, hands or butts, nothing. I was at peace
at utter piece, and I knew exactly where I was,
exactly where I was, and the thought came into my mind.
It was an instant. I was like, I'm home, and
I'm just looking outside, and I could see I was
up on the third or fourth floor. I could see
the entire floor. I could see through the wall, so
I was seeing through the wall, and I could see
every blade of grass in the field, every blade of
grass independently. I could see the serrations in each blade
of grass. I could see the veins, and I could
see the colors moving through and then they turned towards
me and sent me all of this unconditional love. I
could see all the trees souls and it looked like
Obi wan Kenobi when he came back. He had the
little halo right, this little white light around it, all
their souls and they were so happy to see me.
And the colors that I was witnessing were just magnificent
and beautiful. They just don't exist here in this realm.
They don't. And I am just feeling this unconditional love
flow through me. It was as warm as the sun,
and it flowed through me like a river. Right, and
then the next thought that came in and before I
could get it formed, it was like, what a beautiful.
Speaker 1: Day to die?
Speaker 2: It was like I have done it before. That's exactly
what it was. It was just an absolute knowing that
I had done this before. It was absolutely normal. And
that was that. And then how long this took, I
don't know. It could have been ten seconds, it could
have been five hours. Right, time ceased to exist because
time doesn't exist, and I felt another presence come to
me and my gaze which isn't a gaze because I'm
looking down at a body on the bed that I
had no love for, but it was like at twelve
o'clock because I was looking that way, and then all
of a sudden, I still look in that way. It's
hard to describe, you know what I'm saying, Three sixty
degree visions. So I'm facing forward and that's when Yeshaha
showed up and I instantly recognized his energy and he
bestowed love upon me that it is unimaginable to anyone here.
So I'm feeling Father's love I'm feeling this love and
it's almost the best word to describe it would be stifling.
It was so much love and I was adored unconditionally,
and it was just the most profound and beautiful experience.
And I'm thinking I shouldn't be here, right I I
you know, I was lied to right So again, how long?
How long this took? I don't know that I'm you know.
Then I felt, yeah, it will come up to me
and he what was my soul? He placed his hands
on me very gently and loving, and they seemed so huge,
and they were so warm. It was everything was warmth
and love, you know. He played and he guided my
soul back and then I felt him on my body
and then he lay gently laid me down on the
bed and I was out like a light, like gone.
And then I woke up at how long again, I
don't know, but a myriad of doctors shaking me. Jason, Jason, Jason,
and we've been trying to wake you for hours, you
know what? What it seemed like, you know, And I'm like,
and the presence was gone, and I'm like I'm looking
at They're like okay, and I'm like, I can't tell
them just what happened?
Speaker 1: I mean, what was that?
Speaker 2: What? What just happened?
Speaker 1: So? Were you? Were you dead?
Speaker 2: My body was?
Speaker 1: Your body was So then when they say they're trying
to wake you, it's like, right, you coded.
Speaker 2: Right, So just there, you know, and somehow, well I
came back because they pushed my soul back into my
body and I woke up, and you know, the doctors
were there to bring in medical equipment and stuff, and
they're like are you okay? You know, and I'm like, yeah,
I'm fine. Well where you know? They were like what happened?
And I'm like, I can't tell you that. You know,
I felt something. I knew that they would think I
was nuts and you know and all that, and I'm like,
I need you all to leave. Are you all right?
I said, I'm fine. I need you all to leave.
And I'm raspy voice because I can't really talk. I'm
not taking any meds. I want you all out of
the room now. And they all left, and I'm like,
what was that? What happened to me? That's not the
place that I should have gone to, right And in
that well, in that moment, you know, it became abundantly
aware that you know there is no heaven, there is
no hell, there is no good, there is no bad,
there is no right, there is no wrong. Everything I
was taught my entire life was a lie. And within
that timeframe of whatever that, you know, however long, I
was on the other side that was shown to me
and given to me, I was one with everything. Within
a trillionth of a second, I knew everything there was
to ever know. I am everything that has ever existed
or will ever exist. In that moment, I became one
with the Father. I became the light.
Speaker 1: I was the light.
Speaker 2: That means I became God. I am God.
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Speaker 2: And when I realized that, I was like, I have
a mission. I have to let the world know that
they have been duped, lied to horrifically. Right enough, when
I finally got back home, there was that nudge, you know.
I got mad at Father and I was this is
a couple months later, because I'm still feeling this unconditional love,
you know, and it was kind of an ease off process,
you know, and I'm like, I'm shaking my fist. Look,
you picked the wrong list. Look, pal, you picked the
wrong person, right, because I knew I wasn't a nice
person and I've done bad things in my life, you know.
And I'm like, you picked the wrong person. I said, nah,
you and I'm pacing back and forth, and I finally
got into my bedroom and I was in my bathroom
walking out. I said, you picked the wrong person. You
should have picked the polp or a bishop. And this
is when I heard my father speak to me. Now,
he speaks to you through your emotions all the time.
We've just learned to tune them out right. But this
is when he spoke to me, and these were his
exact words. He's kind of a little on the myth side.
And when I said that again, I said, you picked
the wrong person, and he said, why not? You are
my son. I collapsed on the floor at the end
of my bed and I looked up and I said,
for all that I am, I am you. I forgave
myself for everything I knew I had done nothing wrong.
And I wiped the altar clean of all the false
idols that I had put up there, and on my
altar is my father, and that is it. And that's
when the nudge came, like start your YouTube channel, start
your website, and people just fell into place. They came in.
They started my YouTube channel for me, they started my website.
I've had clients right now. It's not as active as
I'd like it, but that's coming. But it was the
nudge to get me to where I needed to be
to get my ball rolling, you know. And I was mad.
I was very angry, not at my near death experience,
but that I had been lied to by the church,
by the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1: The thing is that that is a very and feeling
being a recovering Catholic. I was. I was livid for
years after I kind of realized what was going on,
and it's just always been something that it just sticks
in my craw a lot, because I was like, I've
been lied to, I've been lied to, I've been lied to,
and then doing this work, the more the deeper down
these rabbit holes you go in regards to how the
Bible was created and what the true teachings were and
how they've been manipulated and all of this kind of stuff.
Because I had a friend of mine once say, no
one leaves Christianity because of Christ's teachings.
Speaker 2: And what's in the Bible with Christ teachings. Aren't you
even there? You know? I mean it's I mean, if
you look at the Old Testament, it's really the Quran, right.
Speaker 1: Because it's it's the Torah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Torah. You know what I'm saying. And it's
not even anything. I mean, even by the time of
the Christ, even betid Jesus was here, the Jews finally
didn't have they didn't decide on what we're going to
be the chronicle scriptures of the Old Testament yet, right,
So that didn't come until year one hundred or so.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and then the Bible didn't come into real
play that we the one we kind of know is
for at least three four hundred years.
Speaker 2: Right in the year three hundred and eighty two, that's
when they finally decided on Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
So tell me five years ago on a Tuesday, what
did you have for dinner?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 2: Okay, So now you're going to tell me, right, And
I said, I was like, okay, I said no, I said,
this is intolerable. I will not stand for this. People
need to know who they are, because in that moment
when I told you, I became the light. I was
one with the father.
Speaker 1: So let's go back to here, the actual time when
you were on the other side. Yeah, so you're floating,
so when you saw you were still kind of in
this realm, but you saw light because you're saying, you
see the bloods of glass, you see the tree and
all that stuff. Is that here or is that We.
Speaker 2: Have to understand when you leave your body, you're in
a different dimension, correct, Right, So it's not technically heaven
because you're not dead yet. Okay, So it's a place
where you form a safe place, Okay.
Speaker 1: Kind of like what dreams may come. Correct that Robin
Williams created his world, correct, that's okay, that's I just
wanted to make sure there's one like the grass and
the and the leaves outside.
Speaker 2: Did you see the Shack, the movie The Shack. Oh
my god, you should watch the Shack. It is a
beautiful but it's the same thing. You create this in between.
You're in between this world and home. But it's a
look alike to heaven. Okay. So it's construct a construct, right,
because you're not really dead yet, so you can't enter
home yet. So but it's your safe place that you
can commune with Father and have your souls or Jesus
show up and relatives and relatives whatever you whatever you see.
We create our near deathics experience before we come, which.
Speaker 1: Is another point I wanted to ask you about because
I know you've spoken about this on your YouTube channel.
One thing that I'm going to say, ninety seven percent
of every near death experience I've spoken to near death
experience or I've spoken to has been a positive experience. Yes,
but there's those few that are negative and people are like,
oh my, so there's proof that that's a hell or
there's proof of this or that. My understanding is that
we construct, like you just said, our own near death experience.
It's almost like a it's almost like a ramp or
a easing in, because when you transition it's pretty abrupt
from this world to the other.
Speaker 2: It's extremely abrupt way. It's like crossing the line. Boom boom.
I mean, there's no gray matter, right.
Speaker 1: So if all of a sudden you eraise the Catholic
your entire life, and Mohammed is waiting for you and
it's all a Muslim environment, let's say it's coming, you're
gonna freak the hell out. Because you're still just trying
to process what's happening to you. So a lot of times,
from what I understand, is you kind of ease into
it by constructing a near death experience that makes you
feel comfortable. Hence, if it's Grandma, Grandma sometimes shows up.
If it's your third grade teacher who did something for you,
she shows up. If it's your animals, if it's Jesus,
I always I always joke Jesus the hardest working man
of show business because he shows up a everyone's near
death experience, but he's had a lot of them. But
there's also Buddha and many other ones. There's Muhammed, there's
many other teachers, Indian gurus and so on that show
up at different people dyeshiva, all that kind of stuff,
at different near death experiences to kind of ease in.
If you're Hindu all your life and you have Jesus
show up, you're gonna probably like, what, right, what is
happening here? So it's kind of like you're constructing. You're
constructing your own experience to kind of ease you in.
Is that how you see it as well? Right?
Speaker 2: Because it's such a profound change from what you were
just experiencing too to this. I mean it's like a
shock to the system and right taking the right the
polar air plunge. Right, you know you're at ninety eight
degrees and now you jumped into thirty degree water. It's
it's a shock. So but I instant. The thing with
me is like I instantly knew where I was. And
I've watched many hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of near
death experience and they had I had an overwhelming sense
that I was home. I was a home feeling. I
knew exactly where I was. Instantly, I'm home. And I
said it shockingly, like I shouldn't be here yet, it's
not time, because again I knew everything there was to know,
so I knew it wasn't my time. And I was like,
I'm home. How would I know I'm home? How would
I know I'm home? The Bible never said that Bible
said I'm going to go to Hell, that there is
no safe place for me. How would I know I'm home?
Speaker 1: To be fair, the Bible terms on what goes to
hell or not is pretty gray and it's pretty sensitive.
So like I ate meat on Friday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, going to Hell, it's over something. You know, I
you know, I you know I. You know when you
go to church, you know, you're fornicated around, you cheated
on your wife, you rob the bank, you masturbated what
you're right, and then you go to church and all
for the you know, for the love of Jesus. He
loved You're you're forgiven, So I love.
Speaker 1: I love. Uh. This is a bit that George Carland,
the Great, late the late great George Carland did a
bit on. I think it was George Carlin that did
a bit on. Uh. He was raised Catholic as well,
and he's like, you know, uh, early on in my life,
you know, they you know, if you ate meat on Friday, right,
that was a that was a punishable offense, like that
was hardcore, You're going to hell. But then you know,
over the last thirty years or so, they kind of
loosened up on that. They loosened up on that, They
changed their mind on it. The official the official vertic
position on eating meat on Friday. It's not that bad.
He goes, well, what happened to all the people before
that got sentenced the hell because of the meat thing?
Do they all get out now or are they still
in there going man, just bad timing, like it was.
But that joke, but it's exactly what it is. That's
what he was pointing out. It's a joke, farce, it's
it's man made. Another friend of mine says, it's people
doing peoply things.
Speaker 2: Right, that's what it is, right, I mean, it's really
it really comes down to your choice. Do you want
to believe that this is the written word of God?
Because anytime that something comes from a divine experience, it
comes through what language. You know.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
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Speaker 2: Right now, I'm not talking Sanskrit, English, German, whatever, I'm
talking what religion you were brought up with. Right, Like
Church wrote the Bible, period, that's it. They took it
over Rome did, right. They took it over from the Jews,
and they created the Bible, and they passed it down
to you from coming from the Holy Spirit. Take our
word for it.
Speaker 1: Right, That was that was That was the sales pitch.
Speaker 2: That was a sales pitch. And only we can interpret
the Bible for you.
Speaker 1: The Cavil until they started reading.
Speaker 2: Right, and then and then you know so right and
then you're like, wow, and but it worked right, you
fell for it?
Speaker 1: Well, why when they listen. I walked into I don't
know how old Saint Peter's Basilica is, but I know
it's fairly old. I don't know the date of when
it was finished originally, but I walked into Saint Peter's
Basilica in the Vatican and I walked in and I
looked around and I just said, I turned to my wife,
I go, if I was a peasant living in the
fields working, you know, and I walked into this, there
would be there's no reference that I would have other
living in the shack or living small towns. And you
walk and you see this, like God must have built this.
God must have built this. And that's that was what
they're saying. This is God's house, all this stuff. So
the vast all these cathedrals. I went throughout Europe looking
at visiting cathedrals, and you just walk in. You're like,
they're built as these awe inspiring places to help with
the narrative of what they're selling. Correct, it was, it was,
it was. And then on top of that, they commissioned
the greatest artists of their generation in the you know
Renaissance all that everywhere you turn there is propaganda Church
propaganda on some of the greatest pieces of art ever
created because they were commissioned by the Church. Correct, and
you're but it's again all part of the of the
propaganda moving forward. It was fascinating to see all of that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was because it is inspiring, you know, you.
Speaker 1: Know it, it is inspiring. But also I got to
a point and my wife also with both of us,
got to a point where we're going to museums in
Italy and in France and Spain and we're just like,
I can't see Jesus being tortured anymore. Like every image
of him is just you know, the cadaver on the
wall kind of vibe. And it was just like we
were looking for a smiley Jesus or a or even
just one that he's not bleeding and in pain, and
they're rare to find. It was just but again, that
was part of the sales pitch, right that like he
suffered for your sins, He's the one that did all
this stuff, and it just it just drove me nuts.
Speaker 2: And you know, I will tell you this that Jesus
felt no pain. He wasn't in his body when the
crucifixion started, the whole thing. He was simply he was
simply watching it from home, like when he became enlightened,
when John baptized him in the Jordan, right, that is
when his enlightenment began. He was hit with a massive
amount of electricity or energy, right, And he came up
from that baptism, and he was jerking around and having spasms,
and he wandered off into the woods, into the weeds
by the river, where he stayed for three weeks because
he knew if he started walking like that, like twitch
and people would think he was possessed, you know, the
ignorant people back then, and they would have stoned him. Right,
So he sat off in the weeds, and you know
this in the Bible, as he wandered the desert for
three weeks, tempted by the devil. No, he sat there
and his fight began with the ego. He began to
kill the ego, and the ego was you're not strong enough,
you know to do this. This devil doesn't exist. That's
something created by the Catholic Church and Dante, right, right,
Dante's Inferno. But he was battling the ego, and he
stayed by the river, going something to eat and drink,
and when he was healthy enough to or you know,
he walked home. But that's what the church created that
situation and turned it into, you know, the devil. He
wandered the desert, tempted by the devil. No, he was
sitting there fighting the ego.
Speaker 1: Well, from my understanding and from the research I've done,
we were talking about like my favorite years of the
YadA YadA years of Jesus twelve YadA, YadA, YadA. He's
thirty those years. To my understanding, he did get in
a lot of training. He did go to a lot
of different places and learned a lot of things. But
when John did that to him, it might have acted,
It might have taken him to that next level of
his of his mission.
Speaker 2: That's correct, it did.
Speaker 1: And it sounds like from the way you're explaining it
is that jolt of electricity the nervous system, and a
body needs time to acclimate to that kind of energy, correct,
because we're just not And psychics deal with that, and
so do psychic mediums and channelers deal with that when
they're that energy comes through them, they just they it
takes you have to like build up a tolerance, a
capacity the battery correct not correct. So he was in
there three he was probably pretty open already.
Speaker 2: Well, well, you know when when you were speaking about
where he learned Jesus early on was Mary Magdalene was
his wife. So they were a very close couple. They
stole away together, but they go out into the woods
and they would talk, lean up against trees whatever. But
then Jesus said, I have to go. And he was
a young man at the time.
Speaker 1: He was twelve when he left.
Speaker 2: But then right, so he traveled, well, last time you
saw him, but when he left, he was about eighteen nineteen, No,
I think he was like twenty three twenty four, and
he was going to be gone for three years. So
he said, I'm going to go on a long trip, right,
So he left Mary. Where do you get this rooment
came from home, got it. So he traveled across North Africa,
all right. So he would you know, when he'd run
out of money, he got into some good caravans and
he'd travel with them. And then when he ran out
of money, he wouldn't go to work, you know, unloading ships,
working the dogs, a working man, right, g gather up
some money and then he would travel and he made
it to India where he learned from the masters on
how to meditate, how to become one with the mind,
heart and mind are one self self realization. And he
stayed there for three years or two and a half
years or so, and then he worked his way back, Okay,
back across North Africa through the caravans, doing the same thing,
meeting wonderful people. He wanted to get to know you.
He knew what you were didn't matter, Whether you were prostitute,
a barkeep, didn't matter to him. He loved you unconditionally
and he wanted to get to know you. So then
he came back and can you imagine, You know, we
have our phones when we leave. Hey, honey, you know,
there was no writing, there was no communication. He was
just gone for three.
Speaker 1: Years, right, hoping they'll come back.
Speaker 2: Hoping if he's still alive, to even come back. And
you know, Mary's mother is like, just he's dead, you know,
And then there he is. He comes back and that's
where his knowledge came from, That's where his teachings came from.
That's where he told you anything I can do, you
can do. Do not seek anything out when he said,
the materialistic world will bring you ruin. Why because there's
nothing there. If you seek anything outside yourself, you will
find pain, misery and death. Search within, because there is
the Kingdom of God.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is, And imagine saying those words.
Speaker 2: Back then, he was truly revolutionary.
Speaker 3: Nowlary correct, I mean, but then I mean that was
I mean when he spoke those words, when he said,
when he finally said I and the Father are one,
that was his death sentence when he spoke.
Speaker 2: He knew it too when he spoke that, he said,
I and the Father are one. And they picked up
stones to stone them. And he said, for which of
the good works that I have shown you from the Father?
Am I to be stoned? And they said for your
good works?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 2: But you, being a man, make yourself God. Now his
response was epic, and of course could only come from Yeshua.
He said, is it not written in your laws? I said,
you are God's And they all dropped stones stones, and
he says, then, how you know, how is that blasphemy?
That was his death sentence. That was his That was it.
They they hunted him down and they finally executed him.
They killed him as a common criminal. He broke the law.
He was not allowed to teach what he was teaching.
It was against the law, and the church got him
for it. They murdered him.
Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't the church yet, it was Roman.
Speaker 2: It was Rome. It was a bunch of the Pharisees
or the religious institutions of the time. Let's put it
that way.
Speaker 1: Okay. He was a troublemaker.
Speaker 2: He was a troublemaker. Yeah, he came to he muddied
up the water and he had no problems doing and
he didn't care because he knew what he was doing.
Everything that was it's a dream that we're in. It's
a non reality, an illusion.
Speaker 1: So yeah, to type to kind of jump into what
you were saying in regards to the looking for anything
outside of yourself that I completely understand that idea. And
the more you go down the spiritual path, the more
you understand that the outside world is not real. This
is the only thing that's real is the inner world. Correct,
but the but the outside world is fairly intoxicating.
Speaker 2: It's meant to draw you in. That's the point of this,
that's the whole point of.
Speaker 1: It right, Yeah, I mean it's and I'm sorry everyone.
I'm going to bring it up again. The Matrix. It's
exactly what they were saying in the Matrix. He's like,
when we see Cipher sitting there, he goes, I know
that this steak is not real. Right, we'll be right
back after a word from our sponsor and now back
to the show. But I don't care, and he takes
a bite of it. He's like, I don't want the
real world. The real world's too difficult for me. I
don't I don't want to. I don't want to. I
want to just live in this delusion. And that's who
that character was, and Neo being essentially the one and
also basically being Jesus, Jesus Christ right in that thing,
in that that story, he was able to not only
learn the truth of the reality, of the matrix, of
the the illusion, the dream and the reality, but then
he was he learned the ability to manipulate both correct
and that's what Jesus did, and that's what all the
masters do.
Speaker 2: And you you have to understand that when Father chose
and I call Godfather because of my near death experience,
because I felt like in the moment of my God.
Speaker 1: That relationship.
Speaker 2: Now, I felt like I was his one and only son,
the love that was bestowed on me. So and I
call godfather.
Speaker 1: Says that to everybody, Jason I.
Speaker 2: Know. But people get there's not just you, Jason, I know.
And it's like people get so mad at me. Quit
calling him father, he's God or source. I said, no,
he is my father. He is my creator and I
am one with him. Sure, and but regardless, is like
when God chose Jesus, he not only we come from
a different dimension, we all do, but not only that,
but Jesus was in a different He was a highly
advanced being from a highly advanced society. Okay, what we
would call an extraterrestrial and an alien. Right, he was
a highly advanced being. So he was a master. So
when Father chose him and they got into their little
pow wow, Jesus actually said, man, I don't really think
it's a good time, and He's like, no, not ready, right,
he says, you know, I need you now. And of
course when Father asked us of something, right, we do it.
So Jesus came. But Jesus was a master, a highly
advanced being. He beat the game he was living a
life of a highly advanced being, so when he came,
I mean, I couldn't even imagine how difficult it must
have been for him to lower himself to such standards.
But his love for all of us is something you
don't understand. So that's where Father got Jesus from. He
wasn't your regular pow wow kind of guy.
Speaker 1: But the thing is too that I always ask I
always ask the same I always say the same thing, like, man,
what was it like trying to teach what Jesus was
teaching at the time he was teaching it? And then
you look at someone like Buddha, Well, how is it
like when he was around trying to teach what he
was teaching?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: You know? And all of the masters they all have,
they all run up against these walls, because that's what
this place is even today. I mean, in someone someone,
I always bring him up because he's you know, one
of my I'm very deeply connected to my Yogananda, who
died in the twentieth century. But he he promoted Christ's
teachings so wholeheartedly with his with Indian Yogic philosophies and
everything like that, and pushed all of that out there.
But the resistance that he got and we're talking about
the thirties, the forties, this is not that long ago. No,
it's massive. So I always ask, like, what would happen
if Jesus really did come back, Like what would literally
what would happen? Like what if he would start doing miracles?
People would be like, that's ai or that's a magic trick, right,
or you know, because now we're so kind of cynical
about everything, like what would he have to do?
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be good enough. Nothing would be good enough
because people would say, nah, that's some sort of allude.
That's that because you're so ingrained in the illusion, in
the dream that you believe your body is real. You
believe that, like you said, that steak is real, that
your pencil, that what your college degree, everything that you're
experiencing is real because you can feel it, see it
and touch it and taste it. Right, But that's part
of the illusion, that's part of what you immersed yourself in.
So then what's the point of coming here, Alex, I'll
tell you it's simply to rediscover who you are. You
didn't come here to learn anything. When I sold you
who I am God, Right, what does God need to learn? Nothing?
So what do I need to learn here in the illusion? Nothing?
What I came here to do is rediscover who I am.
Speaker 1: And by doing that, you're gonna learn a few things.
Speaker 2: And I've learned a lot of things through it, through
the through the way.
Speaker 1: You know of this experience.
Speaker 2: It's like you know, a hamster on a wheel. You're
on a cosmic wheel in the universe. Right, what does
that wheel do? It goes nowhere. You're on a journey
to nowhere. There's nowhere for you to go period. You're
at home, You're in a deep sleep, right, So where
what do you need to learn? Nothing? It's simply a
journey of rediscovery. I am the universe pretending to be
Jason Janis. That's it. And I've just rediscovered that, all right.
And I had a profound experience on October third that
proved that we can get into it later. But I
am simply rediscovering who I am, and I've done that,
and that's the whole purpose of this. That's why when
Jesus said to the young King, sell all your stuff, Pug,
give all your money away. Come follow me. I'll show
you Jesus led by example, right. He showed you what
he was doing and how to do it. But even
then they didn't want to listen, even with the miracles
he was doing, which he, by the way, did far
less miracles than the Bible explains, but miracles. Nonetheless, people
began to project themselves onto him, and that frustrated him
because they're not getting it right.
Speaker 1: But he didn't come to start a religion.
Speaker 2: No, he didn't come to start any religion. He came
to wake you up. Look, anything I can do, you
can do and more. Wake up is what he was saying.
Wake up, wake up.
Speaker 1: He's handing out blue pills.
Speaker 2: Everything. He's handing out the blue It's like when you
have a nightmare and you wake up in the ben
you go, ah, oh, it's just a dream. You haven't
woken up from the dream yet. That's called death. And
it's called an awakening. And why are you all terrified
to awaken? There's two forms of awakening. And I was
just talking to this to someone last night. Awakening is
what I am. And now I went through my ascension
in twenty twenty three, which was brutally painful, brutal, but
now I'm in the awakening, and that is simply the
death of the ego, loss of motivation, law of caring
about anything in this world. And I have no love
of this world. I don't care about wealth six I
mean any of that. It's the what is that? That's
the death of the ego. So my ego is is
just crushed. He's there, But it's the death of the ego,
is what the awakening is. But when you truly awaken,
that means you die or you transition home. And that's
where people are terrified, all right, because you will stand
before your father and you will be shown your life review. Okay,
and I wish you didn't have. I did not have, No,
I did not have in mind, but you and I've
just from everybody they've had their life review.
Speaker 1: So I and whether the life review is not a judgment,
it's not.
Speaker 2: There is no judgment. I need you all to understand
this right now. There is no judgment. There is no hell,
there are no demons, there is nothing. This is a dream.
It's an illusion. It's what you asked your father to
experience in this dream, in this three D world.
Speaker 1: So let's go back to that. When you say you
chose this are you talking about the sole blueprint? Correct,
you're talking about the Soul contract.
Speaker 2: You're still right, and that contract isn't going to be
completed in one lifetime. Okay. I've died over thirty two
hundred times. Okay, most of you have died between anywhere
between six hundred to eight hundred times. There might be
some of you out there with a little more experience
at twelve hundred. But I had a profound out of
body experience the night Deavar Hamblin died on the football field,
I had a profound out of body experience. And I'll
tell you this real quick. It's like, as soon as
I saw him make the hit and walk, I saw
him drop dead.
Speaker 1: And I but he came back.
Speaker 2: He came back right. He had a near He won't
talk about it yet, but I all of a sudden,
I just lay my head back and i'ment oh, And
then all of a sudden I was gone. I was
in another realm, another dimension. It was like Star Wars.
There was a sun here, and the sun here like,
and the ocean was over here, and there was a
light being walking towards me on this beautiful beach, and
there was presence that I could not see, but I
could feel like I'm feeling the love of home and
peace and all of this, and and I'm like, who
are you? And you know it's telepathic of course, so
because there's no body, and I'm like, I'm Jeffrey. I've
always been with you. And I'm like, Jeffrey, I said,
that's the toys arrest. Draft man said I can't call
you Jeffrey. How about John? And then I ended up
calling him Jeffrey and I'm like, so he's your spirit guid,
my spirit guide, and this being is getting closer to me.
But it was a I recognize that.
Speaker 1: Being, you recognize the energy probably yes, the energy.
Speaker 2: Right, because it was a light being right. And I'm like, Jeffrey,
how many times have I been here? How many times
have I died? And he and the number was instant
over thirty two hundred and I'm like, I've died over
thirty two hundred times, and he goes, yes, you're ancient.
And then I was pulled back into my body on
the couch. And now I wake up and the football
field is all dark. Nobody's in the stand, it's dark,
and just a few commentators. So from the time I
saw his hit and him take two steps and drop.
Then I came back and everything was dark. So I
was gone for quite a while. I was gone for
quite a while in this experience, having this experience, I'm like,
what the hell does ancient mean? I mean, yeah, we're eternal, right,
but what does ancient mean? And I'm like, thirty two
hundred times? Am I that pathetic? I'm like, you get
it right?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: And that night I remember saying this, I said, who
am I? Father? Why what am I?
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show, right.
Speaker 2: And then the next day I wake up and my
YouTube algorithm was lone Wolf Sigma Male and the Chosen One.
You're a chosen One, and I'm like, chosen one and
it resident. I could just feel this energy burst out
like woof like And I started doing research on that,
and I was in a a sharing group and I
was explaining my new experience in this. I think his
name was David Succi. I don't know if you've ever
heard of him. He's been researching near death experience for
like fifteen or twenty years. He's done like thousands of them.
Written five or six books. And he raised his hand.
He goas, wow, that's amazing. I said, first of all,
that experience was profound. But you, being a chosen one,
he says, it's very real. And he says, do you
realize you've been walking this earth for over thirty thousand
years helping humanity? And he says, God has come to
you to choose to have these experiences because you're a
light seed. You're a light worker or star seed, a
light worker, and he says, you've been walking this earth
for thirty thousand years helping humanity evolve. And I was like,
in it, I felt it right. I felt that energy
surging through me. And I was like that all made
sense now why I've had all these lives and all
of these what I would call hard lives, you know,
especially this one with the brutality that I've faced my
whole life. And I said wow, And I said, but
you have to realize, no one here is special. Jesus
wasn't special. Nobody is special. We're all one with the Father. Okay,
so there's no speciality.
Speaker 1: It's just we're just a couple. Maybe whoever's I agree
with you. It's just like some people might be a
little bit farther along on the journey.
Speaker 2: That's it, right, So you're looking at somebody as you know,
going into grade school, to somebody as a PhD's that's
the only difference. You're other than that, you're no different,
You're just for Jesus was well clearly further along on
his journey, and that's why he was chosen for his job.
And that's why Father has come to me and others.
You know him in the Bible as one hundred and
forty four thousand. Okay, we're the We're the star seeds,
the chosen ones to come and help humanity evolve, to
get out of the darkness, to spread our love and
our light. And it all made sense. My entire life
made sense now because I've been a deep empathetic person
since I was a little boy. I loved so deeply
in every ding, every bad word, every hit. It hit hard,
brutally hard, and I felt it right, And it's like
nobody loves me, nobody cares. Clearly God doesn't care anymore. Right,
that's why I'm being beaten. Nobody loves me at all.
In that moment, everything came whoop, and my teachings just
took off in that manner where I just began to
teach more isolated things other than my near death experience.
People need to know who they are. People need to
know that you're in a matrix a dream that you
can change the contract. You can here in the physical
change your soul contract. But it's got to be done
a certain way. You can't just say, listen, pal, I'm
not liking this anymore. So we're going to do this, this,
and this. It's not going to work well.
Speaker 1: And you're also talking about thirty two hundred times. That
means obviously goes very much against what the Church and
the Bible say about reincarnation, oh absolutely, which never made
any sense.
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm like, so I only get this one time, right,
that's it, And then I'm screwing.
Speaker 1: And these are the circumstances of the one time I
can live as a male or female, rich or poor,
abused or loved, like, that's it. It's just like the
luck of the draw, right it It made no sense.
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna rotten the dirt until some guy
is going to stand up in the sky and then
decide who will really come home? And the rest will
then truly suffer hell on earth. I was like, what
are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Any parent understands that that's not realistic because you would
never do that to a child like your own children,
no matter what they.
Speaker 2: Do, right, you will love them on condition.
Speaker 1: You might not be happy with them right, but you
will love them right, because that's that's what a parent is.
So I always said that to myself. I was like, well,
if if God is our parent and he loves us,
and we use he is a lack of a better word, correct,
but if he loves us, then that's why that that's
why hell never made sense to me. When I was
in first grade and they introduced me to Hell, I
was terrified. We all were here if I went to
Catholic school, right, terrified with the nun and the priests
and the whole thing and and the Catholic calisthenics. Uh,
you know, up sit Neil, up to Neil, Sit up Neil.
Speaker 2: So telling me God has an ego, right, we got
to stoke God's ego? Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: That was the thing too, that right, And that's and
that's what people don't understand. It's like, why do I
need to go to church to worship. I need to
worship God. So you're telling me God has an ego
and then they stopped in their tracks.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh no, how about how about the well just
the ten commandments?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: No, you shall have no other God besides me, which
I find fairly egotistical in itself. Uh. The Old Testament
God is very insecure.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and very brutal, very.
Speaker 1: Very vengeful, very he loves playing games. He's like, give away,
or I'll kill yoursel Abraham. Is it like you'll kill
your son or like like I'm just Josh, I won't
kill him. I was just testing you and that way,
it's like, Wow, he's got a dark sense of.
Speaker 2: You what and he has he does have a very
good sense of humor.
Speaker 1: I've had I've had this conversation on the show before.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. Where it's
the Old Testament versus the New Testament. Now those gods
very different.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: And then Jesus doesn't follow Jehovah. No, he doesn't follow
that God. No, he never to my understanding, and please
correct me wrong. I don't think he ever said Jehovah
in the New Testament never never once. Nope, because there
are two different books from two different worlds. Correct, They
just kind of put together because we like, this is thin,
we need to fill it up. Get that tour over here,
let's bring it in here.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly where that came from, exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's very different because they're in the tour. There's
no hell, correct, there is no hell. They that doesn't
exist in the Jewish religion. So the hell was a
construct of a control. It was a control mechanism. You
know where it came from, yes, of course, Uh, well,
Jesus said it was about the lake, and uh everyone the.
Speaker 2: Catholic Church took it from the fires of Gehenna, which
was the eternal you know, garbage dump that was burning
outside Jerusalem for centuries, right and where they would take
child sacrifices and then throw the bodies onto the fire.
When Jesus sawt he says, how would you like it
if you burned for eternity right then and there? Like that,
Let's take that and there instead of an eternal garbage dump,
what do they create?
Speaker 1: An eternal hell?
Speaker 2: An eternal hell, a lake of fire of torture.
Speaker 1: And they're like, we need someone to We need a
main character in this part of the story, right, can
we find what wasn't there an angel or something in
this other book that someone was.
Speaker 2: Talking about, you know, and it's like the whole I
will tell you where where this came from. And this
is great, where the fear concept came from when we
took on consciousness, when we decided all that is Father,
there is nothing else God is. There is nothing else period,
end of subject that's put down right now. But all
that is already knew everything stubbing your toe at hurt,
giving birth with hurt, right, getting burned with hurt. But
that wasn't good enough for all that is, all that
is wanted to experience what all that is already knows? Okay,
So how can all that is experience this? He created us, right,
so we could be his tools to experience what all
that is already knows. So we were created in his image.
We are Father, we are still one with the Father,
but yet we are all individuals in the same aspect.
It's a hard concept on understand, but follow me, right.
So in that moment when we decided we don't have
to come here, we don't have to take on this. Okay,
only the bravest of us souls choose to come here
because it is brutally difficult. It is beyond heart. It's
the hardest place in the universe to come to. Okay.
So when we decided to take on this role, we
took on consciousness. Okay, Consciousness is duality. So when you
hear somebody speak of duality, that's consciousness, which we're experiencing
right now. That is where, in that moment that we
took that on, we created three things. Fear, guilt in
the ego, we fear we have abandoned God, or you
know it in the Bible as we were kicked out
of the garden of Eden. Of course, Okay, there is
your fear. That's where it came from. We abandoned Father,
We threw ourselves into the universe so deep, and we
built a the wall around ourselves. And now the ego,
which is every voice inside your head right is now
going hell bent on killing not only God but you.
That's where that came from. And the church built on
that fear, and a SAPs fell into that trap of
believing that somehow an angel could fall and create become
the leader of the Lake of fire. It's it's insanity,
it really is.
Speaker 1: It is. It's not only insanity, it just doesn't. It
just there's so many holes in this plot.
Speaker 2: It is. It's riddled with Swiss cheese.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's like, we'll be right back after
a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.
I come from the story world, and you know, filmmaking world,
so I've studied story at nauseum and you just look
at the story. It's just like, my god, this doesn't
These characters don't make sense, the narratives don't make sense.
They contradict themselves all the time. And then you've got
these near death experiencers that come in and they just
start saying, Oh no, everything's love, everything's God, everything's this,
everything's that. And the fear based stuff is the thing
that really irritates me. Like, you know, you're born I'm
just talking. I was just thinking that you're born with
original sin because you can't be born perfect. You have
to be you got to bring some baggage in. But
I as the church can clear you of that.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: If you don't get.
Speaker 2: Baptized, sorry, pal, you're gonna burn.
Speaker 1: Right. So when my kids, when my kids were born.
When my kids were born, you know, we didn't we're
not Catholics, so we didn't get them baptized. And my
parents are like, so what do you mind? You not religious?
I mean they haven't gone to church in thirty years,
but we're raised Catholic, right, And they're like, so you
thinking of the you know, getting a baptist. I'm like,
are you out of your mind?
Speaker 2: Right? Good for you?
Speaker 1: This is years ago when they were first born. And
I'm like, no, why She's like, well, you know, just
in case the past, fine, why like, you know, cover
your bases, you know what, thrown little water on, it'll
be fine, oh kind of thing. And it's just oh my,
it's I was.
Speaker 2: Like, wow, my youngest I have two children, My first
was you know because back then I was twenty one
when I had her.
Speaker 1: So she's good.
Speaker 2: So she's good. You know, my youngest who's just gone
off the college, right, she was right done because she
was never baptized because my wife at the time hated
Christianity and she's like, all you praiser and all you
sick you know, and I'm like I'm fighting on. Oh,
Catholics is all that it is. And we fought too
in it, but she never got baptized, and thank God,
thank you Father that she never did, because I would
be horrified because she doesn't need it. And to this
day she's like, I let her. This is her journey,
this is her incarnation. She came here to work on herself.
So I've told her some things. I said, this is
your life. You live it how you want to live it.
There's no right or wrong, there's no good or bad.
You do what you need to do. But you're on
a journey, okay. And I left that at that. If
you have questions, come to me. I will be happy
to answer them. But do not read the Bible. Do
not fall for the church. And it's a hoax, it's
a lie. It will leave you in ruin. Okay. I said,
go within you. That's the only place you can go.
What do you mean, Dad? And I'm like, you will
find out. You're nineteen. You have a while to go.
But just believe in yourself, believe in who you are,
because that's the important thing.
Speaker 1: Now that you've gone through this experience, and it's fairly
recent only like the last four or five years.
Speaker 2: Or five years. I died somewhere like I say April second,
because it was when I went in, So again time
I don't go around that right.
Speaker 1: So it hasn't been a long time since since since
you've gone through this process and you went to the
other side and spoke to Father and had a go
and felt, yes you were and you know the whole
ball of wax. What's the one truth that you would
like to share with people about what you discovered in
your journeys?
Speaker 2: That and I will be blunt, and I've said it
twice now that I am God. I merged with that light.
I became the light. I became one with.
Speaker 1: Everything and that everybody else.
Speaker 2: Is and everybody else that has died. And I'm talking
when I mean one with everything. I'm talking in the universe,
not just every human being on Earth, but everything that planet,
everything that has ever created or has not been created.
I have one with.
Speaker 1: The one thing that I hear again and again is
this knowing and this instant tapping into I like to
call it the spiritual cloud where you automatically it's kind
of like the Internet, but like on steroids, because you
have all.
Speaker 2: Information, it's given to you instantly, instantly, instantly.
Speaker 1: So you're like what's quantum physics? Oh okay, got it?
Speaker 2: And it was all there.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all there, but you can't bring it back, no,
because this can't handle it.
Speaker 2: Correct, right, But because you have to understand that your
mind is at home with Father. This is your brain.
This runs the CPU of the suit. Okay, this is
simply a suit. So there's nothing inside this. Your soul
is wrapped around it like a glove. Okay, and that's
what controls your body, all right. Your mind is at home.
You are everybody on this planet is still at home.
You've just put yourself into a deep sleep, okay, And
what happens when you sleep dream? You took on consciousness.
Now you are all of a sudden aware as I'm naked.
You know, that's the whole Bible thing. So you took
on this reality, this this avatar. And now you became
fearful of it. You became hateful of it, right because
you left or you think, as you've been taught in life,
that you left Father, that you are unworthy of being
with him and his love. And when I merged with
that light of him and absorbed into it and became
the light, I became that love, that I am one
with the Father, that I am God. Each and every
one of you are God. Okay, you've just forgotten who
you are.
Speaker 1: It's like the Hindu concept of maya correct the dream,
the dream or the Aborigine.
Speaker 2: The great dream, the great dream.
Speaker 1: Correct, that's what we're at.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all you're doing is dreaming. Nothing that
you are seeing here that you are perceiving. See, these
aren't eyes, these are lenses. So what you are dreaming.
If you've seen the movie Avatar, this is the best
way to describe it. Remember when he saw his Avatar
and he laid down in bed for the first time
and you saw that ball of electricity go through the
right That is exactly what is taking place.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good. I never thought about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're dreaming now. Out of this dream, you're
being downloaded what you're dreaming, right, Your lenses that you
call eyes are projecting out what you are dreaming about. Thus,
your thoughts create your reality. So what you are seeing
is you. This is your envisioning of who I am.
What you need me to be is what you're looking
at right now, because that is what you are dreaming.
So what you're seeing sitting across from you is your
perception of how you see me in your dream. That's
exactly what is taking place.
Speaker 1: So in other words, Jake Scully as a human is
in this analogy, who you truly are?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 1: That is the soul that is that is you're on
the other side, that's you're in You're in the real world.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: Then he lies down in the machine and he puts
on the thing and then he and he sees the
avatar that he's going to go into.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: Very similar to us when we're looking at our soul print,
a soul blueprint. When I have James Cameron on the show,
We're going to have this conversation. I'm gonna call Jim
up the next week. Jim, if you're listening anytime, sir.
Speaker 2: Uh invite me. I'd love to be here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure a few people would love to be
in the room for that conversation. But he goes in
and then when he opens his eyes, he is now
in the avatar suit while his while he's in a
deep meditative sleep, if you will, in this actually in
this whole case and everything while he's sleeping, and then
he's often an adventure and anything that happens to that
avatar body doesn't affect the guy who's sitting down, lying
down and sleeping. It's a video game, correct, it's you're
and the video game is a very crude analogy of that,
where we are the soul, correct, and you're playing Mario Brothers,
and Mario is jumping you know things in any and
whatever happens to him doesn't affect you. You might feel it,
you might feel.
Speaker 2: The pain of why did I die? Pain?
Speaker 1: You don't feel no, no, no, But the soul emotionally, emotionally
and physically correct Emotionally, you'd be like, oh, why did
that happen? Oh make a left, ah, I need to
do that. So that's the analogy of the soul and
and the illusion, correct, And that's but the thing is
the illusion. I have to imagine that Mario really really
believes that he is in a place with mushrooms and
a giant monkey throwing absolutely right, you know there there
is definitely there's when you're in it, you have to
believe it or else what's the point, right? I mean?
Speaker 2: And that's the whole point of forgetting is because would
you follow through with what you were about to experience.
Hell no, no.
Speaker 1: If I remember if with avatar, like when it comes
out into the avatar body, we'll be right back after
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He can't walk. He has to learn how to walk again.
He has to learn how to acclimate himself. Now, what
he's able to do is moves very quickly for story purposes.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: But when we come in, we come in as a
defenseless little thing and we have to relearn everything everything.
And then the family we choose to come in, which
we all have soul contracts with that soul family. They're
they're like, we're gonna go ahead of you when you come.
We'll walk, we'll protect you, we'll get you were or
we'll teach you the lessons that you want us to
teach you, whether that be trauma or whether that be
love or a combination of both. You know, like I
really want to I want to be Buddhist in this life. Great,
you're gonna be born I'll be Buddhist too. We'll be
born in China or actually Tibet. Let's do Tibet. It's
a little safer, right, right, So what you will be
born to it will be Tibetan Tibetans this time, and
we'll be Buddhist Tibetan. So when you show up, we'll
teach you Buddhism and you can walk down that path
in this journey and experience that, or you're going to
you know what, I want to discover it for myself. Great,
we're going to be born Catholic then, and then you're
going to be the black sheep of the family. You're
going to go off on a journey yourself, because that's
the kind of path you want to walk, you know.
It's when you start looking at it like.
Speaker 2: That, that's exactly what it is. So from like you
just said it, you chose your parents, right, but you also,
and I need to make this very clear, you also
chose your way out of the dream.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So how you chose to exit it is perfectly and
however it is, whether it's being murdered, wearing a stab
to death, burning in a car, or dying in your sleep.
Dying in your sleep doesn't matter. You wrote your way
out of it, okay.
Speaker 1: Now do you from my understanding and after all the
conversations I've had, when you're laying out your soul blueprint,
from my understanding of a soul contractor sole blueprint is
that you lay down mile markers. I call them mile markers. Yes,
these are things that are irrefutable. These are going to happen.
You really have no choice in the matter.
Speaker 2: You're going to reach them. You want to get marriage,
You're gonna have married, You're gonna have cads.
Speaker 1: You're gonna work in this field. You're gonna work in
this field. You're gonna do this job. You're like, you know, oh,
I got a job at Disney because I'm an animator,
and you're gonna Yeah, you're gonna get there and then whatever.
Speaker 2: But how you get there, that's the thing, is your
free will.
Speaker 1: Correct. So there's gonna be these mile markers that you
can kind of how you get there is completely up
to you.
Speaker 2: But you will hit but you'll end up there.
Speaker 1: No more like you're being born in America in twenty twenty.
That was a choice, correct, And there's nothing you could
do about that, That's correct. The parents you got nothing
you could do about that. These are things that are
in your path. How you get how you deal with it,
and how you get through these other mile markers, the
people you meet that your soulmate, your marriages, all that
kind of stuff. These are mile markers now, from what
I understand too, you set up exit exit points throughout
the journey that if at a certain point in life
you're like, you know, things aren't going really well. I
think I need a wake up call near death experience.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: It does because without that experience of having that near death.
Speaker 1: Experience, what would have happened if you didn't have I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would be doing what I was doing now,
which was a dead end job, going nowhere, scraping the bottom.
Speaker 1: Of the barrel, hitting your head against the wall, right.
Speaker 2: Basically, you know, taking my head and pounding it on
the concrete all day, you know, going nowhere, right. And
that was like you were just saying, it's an excellent example.
You maral markers. By the time I hit mile marker
maybe D or E. Right, God said, if you don't,
you don't get on the path that I need you on.
This is what's going to happen. Right, We're gonna nudge it.
And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. So, uh, though I've always
I always teach when I talk to people that the universe.
I use the word universe, God, whatever you want to
call it gives you a little whisper, then gives you
a little tap on the shoulder, starts giving you a
little nudge, and it just keeps getting a little bit
stronger every time until the sledgehammer comes because you're not
listening correct and near death experience it's pretty much the
biggest sledgehammer there is.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's it's an explosion of truth.
Speaker 1: So were you before the near death experience? Were you
feeling nudges that you were ignoring? Were you anything anything
that was going to point you into direction you were was?
In other words, was there was there a timeline.
Speaker 2: From early on? You know, even in high school, you know,
my teachers would say, you know, and I'd essays or
to have to speak in front of the class. They
were like, wow, you know, you should become a teacher.
You you know, you had me engaged. You know, I
was thoroughly enjoying you speaking, and I'm like, I have
no desire to teach. Right even when I got into
college and my my history professor was like, Jason, would
you please teach? You know, we'll take care of you know,
all your will take care of the money. You know,
you'll please teach, And I'm like, I have no desire
to see being a teacher. And you know, then my
mom asked me a question early on in my twenties,
like twenty three or twenty five, and she was just
sitting there and I was explaining things to her, and
she goes, you need to be a teacher.
Speaker 1: So you were getting signals.
Speaker 2: I was getting signals and I'm like, you know, and
I was like no, and they say, you teach. You know,
my mom is very uneducated. She doesn't even have a
high school education. So she goes, but you explain things
in such a way that I don't feel ignorant or stupid.
That you could talk to anybody and you sense where
they're at. That's the EmPATH and you can teach them
in a very safe and secure manner, right. And it's
very comforting to those that you know may not know
the truth, that feel ignorant asking that question, that I
can come up to them and answer that question. So yes,
I was getting those nudges and I kept no, there's
no way, no way, no way. And now if somebody said, Jason,
you know you're going to be a tog, a teacher
of God, you know like that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I would have said, you can go to There's no
way I'm going to, you know, be a preacher or this,
that or that. And here I am. After my near
death experience. I knew it. I knew exactly what I
needed to do. And I found out this October third,
from a divine spiritual experience that I am in alignment
with my higher self what I came here to do.
Speaker 1: Now did you say, did you already discuss what happened
to you? Or no? No, what happened to October there?
Speaker 2: So well I'd have to back up too.
Speaker 1: And this is a few months ago from this.
Speaker 2: This is a few months ago. But let me back
up so because then you'll fully understand it. I had
another I've had several meetings with angels.
Speaker 1: Or guys or as one does.
Speaker 2: As just right on an everyday thing. But I had
I came out of sushi and I was trying to date,
which was a bad idea. I wasn't ready yet, you know.
And so we had come out of sushi and there
was a guy, a bum had a bag and a
cane and it was just in rady clothes. Just sitting
at the end of my jeep and I was walking
up there and she was like, no, no, no, no, don't
go talk to him. I said no, no, and we
walked up to him and he was like, Hi, how
are you just smiling at me? And all of a sudden,
I'm just feeling this energy and I'm like and I'm like,
what is going on? And you love video games and
I'm like, this guy, you know what? Oh, look at
a time twelve twelve. Here we go. I gotcha. And
I'm like, something's going on I'm feeling and he goes,
you know, I'm in Wisconsin to help, you know, my
partner get a divorce, and he looked right at her.
She was going through divorce. You help her to here
get a divorce and she freaked out, like how does
he know that? And you know, I'm you know, I'm
headed towards econom walk where we were thinking of moving,
and she and her face just went white. He goes, yeah,
I'm here to help, and he's staring right at her,
to help her get a divorce, and can I go
sit in the jeep? And she grabbed the keys and
ran in there, locked and we were talking. He goes,
you know, he's talking about certain things, and I'm like,
what is going on. I'm feeling a real big tug
here with energy. We're exchanging energy on a massive level.
And I'm like, he goes, you know, it's really about
the love, and he's just smiling at me just and
he goes, you know, it's really about the love. And
I'm trying to process what is going what's taking place here?
I can something's up right. And then a third time,
he put out his fist bump and he goes, it's
really about the love. And I said, and I gave
him a fist bump and his hand was cold, like
not temperature cold, but there's nothing in it like a
dead body, right, And I'm like and that's the second
time that happened to me. And I'm like, yes, it
is about the love. And I said, three years ago,
I had a near death experience. And he sat up
and he looked at me and he goes, I know
you did. And I'm like, whoa, Okay, what's going on?
And I went to turn to look to see if
she was okay, and then I turned back and now
he's standing in front of me, and I'm like but
there was no noise. I'm like, your name is Jason, right,
and I'm okay, what's going on? And I'm like, oh
my god, is he done? And I'm like, he goes,
you kind of scrape in the bottom of the barrel,
and I'm like, what else is new? I said yeah,
and he goes, you know, I'm an alcoholic.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: And I said I'm sorry, and I said, I drank.
You know, I drank quite a bit last month. I
was one hundred and ten. I said, you drank one
hundred and ten thousand dollars worth of booze? And I said.
He said, you know where I could get a drink?
And I said, right there, there's a dire's a bar,
right And he said would you walk with me? And
I said sure, and I grabbed his bag in his
cane and I gave it to him. Now, this is
when he started walking in front of me, and he said,
would you be okay with that? I said okay with
what I said? Making one hundred and ten thousand a year,
I said yeah, I said, I'm scraping the b yeah,
and he says no, a month, and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Sure, why not?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, sure, right, he says great. He said, let's
walk with me again, and he said, and he's not
walking in front of me. He said, would you be
willing to relocate? My god, we're sure.
Speaker 1: Where were you there?
Speaker 2: I was at Wisconsin, Wisconsin, right, just a little bit
outside Milwaukee, Wisconsin, right, And I said, yeah, I lived
my whole life there, so I know him very well.
So I said, yeah, sure. He goes great, he said hmm,
and he was humming. He's he said, He turned around.
He goes, how about Sacramento, California.
Speaker 1: The most affordable of this thing? Right?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I saw a person scraping the bottom
of the barrel. Is really going to make it in California?
And I'm like, sure for that kind of money? So
we're talking one point three million somewhere in there. Yeah, okay,
oh sure, I'm okay, great, So.
Speaker 1: It's about one hundred thousand when you're done with.
Speaker 2: The Texas at Yeah, it's right, you know, with the
added extra four percent that they're going to take out
for what I don't know, but you know, but sure
for California. Right, He's great, So now we're walking and
we're talking and he's like, Jason, it was nice to
see you. And we got it. I got him into
the Texas Roadhouse, into the thing, and when we walked in,
nobody was paying attention to us, Like nobody would even
look at us, like glitching the matrix, right, so they're off,
you know. It got him to the bar and he says, Jason,
you'll hear from me again soon. Okay, I never told
you my name. I'm like, what is going on? I
can't put one? And I said, you know, thank you.
I said, I hope you enjoy your stay in Wisconsin.
And I was turning to walk out. And when I
turned to walk out, I go over and there's nobody there.
He's gone all right, and now I'm going out. I
kind of high tailed it to the jeep and I'm
like and by this time, I'm like physically exhausted. I'm
like wiped out.
Speaker 1: So when you say you're wiped out that energy energy, yes,
the energy your body can't.
Speaker 2: Couldn't take a higher process, a higher yeah, the capacity right.
So I'm feeling tired and I'm like, oh my god,
I said, she goes, who was that now? This is
the second time I had met this individual. The first
time he looked different, okay, but this time he had
the same square jaw, the same beard, but this time
it was a dark red and his hair was the
same exact same haircut, but red. And I got back
to my house and I'm like, oh my god, I
know who that was. That was Archangel Michael. I saw
him less than a year ago, about six months ago
in my workplace, very very very very early in the
morning when I was only there and kind of the
same situation happened, not money wise this time, but different,
and I was like, oh my god, right then, So
what happened? In the end of twenty twenty four, I
came home from work and this was the start of
my transition and where I'm living now in California. I
walked in and my apartment was ransacked, but the door
was locked from the dead bolt and my regular lock,
and so I unlocked the door. All the lights are on.
I look around, my computer chairs pulled out, turned around
facing towards This isn't Sacramento, No, this was in Wisconsin, right, so,
and I my couch is to shlve. All the pillows
are thrown on the floor, my stuffed animal, thrown down,
blankets all over the place, light on my kitchen, lights
on on my and all of a sudden, I feel
this weird energy, like what is going on? But nothing
was taken. My iPad was right there, brand new iPad
air sixty three inch plasma TV, brand new computer. Right,
everything is here, my snake is there. And I'm like,
what is going on? And I creeping down the hall
and I turned on the light my second bedroom. They
had completely destroyed the bed, ripped off all the covers,
all the pillows, even the form the blanket that hugs
the everything was ripped off, thrown on the floor. I
go into my room. My room is dishoveled, bed torn apart,
and I'm like, I'm like, I couldn't figure out what
was going on. So I'm calling a few people, a
couple of mediums. And they said, couple of mediums, A
couple of mediums, and I'm just friends with them through
ions and they're.
Speaker 1: Like, Jason, a couple so I understand, right.
Speaker 2: So and they said, Jason, something big is about to
happen in your life. Changes are coming, and I'm like,
so we're going to fast forward to now this last
July or July of this year, somehow I lost my job, yeah, right,
could not find a job in the same field that
I've been working in my whole life. Everything was instantly denied,
no callbacks. I was looking for places to stay. My
rent shot up like way way too much. Nobody got
back to me now right, And from that point, I'm like,
what am I going to do? And that's when that
dawned on me that that was the non physical destroying
my apartment, saying these are the changes that are happening.
And they forced me out of my comfort zone and
pushed me to Sacramento. So I got the Sacramento didn't
have a good experience, and I'm like, because now I'm
living in my car, I have no job, I have
no place to live. I got kicked out of the
truck stop in Sacramento. They wouldn't allow me to the
police kick me out. I'm like, I need this. So
I found a place in Lodi and I was there
for a couple months. LOADI California and I was just
sleeping in my truck stop, right and October third rolled
around and got up, went to the bathroom as like
a normal thing. And then this person was standing in
the lobby just staring at me. Again, nobody even paying
attention to him or whatsoever. And he's looking at me
and he just smiled at me, and I'm like, hi,
you know. And then I went and did bathroom. All
of a sudden, when I got into the bathroom, he
was in the bathroom, but I just passed him in
the lobby and I'm like, but people are walking by him,
not even paying attention, don't even know he even exists. Right,
I went to the bathroom. Now he's at the same
wash station. I'm washing my hands and he's like, Hi, Hi,
you know, and walked around. And then all of a sudden,
I got done wash my hands. He's gone. You would
hear somebody leaving, but he was just gone. Then he
was out in the lobby and I walked by him.
I said, have a great day. And then I saw
him walk in front of my jeep staring. We're locking
eyes like you and I are right, And he got
his car pulled next to me and he said started
talking about things, and he goes, you're Jason right, Like
he says, you're in alignment and you're powerful. You need
to move now. And I'm like, who are you? He goes,
I'm just like you. I said, no, you're not. I
can feel you. Who are you? He said, Jason, you
put me here and I'm like, I've been living in
my car for two months.
Speaker 1: What do you talk?
Speaker 2: He says? I said, look around you look and I said,
that's all me and I'm talking about things. Jason, you're
teaching me nothing that I don't already know. I'm like,
you're either a master or you're an angel. Who are you?
I said? He said, Jason, you put me here. You
need to move now. Somebody needs you move where. He said,
you are in alignment and you are powerful. You need
to move. And he said for the job interview, he
said he's looking gee and it's dishovel. He said, you
need to get some new clothes. And he says, do
not talk about your spirituality.
Speaker 1: Do not what job.
Speaker 2: I've been denied jobs. I said, you guys won't let
me have a job. And now all of a sudden,
I need to pick up and move where I knew
where it was, back up the Sacramento because that's where
would you be willing to relocate? Right? That's where and
that morning I woke up. My phone wouldn't work, phone
was cut off. I couldn't make phone calls, I couldn't
access the internet, write nothing. So that incident took about
forty minutes. And then he got in his car and
drove away. And I'm like, when you hear that you're
in alignment, that means you're in alignment with your soul's
your highest version of yourself, meaning you're in alignment with
what you came here to do. Right, But like, who
needs me? Where do I need to go? I mean,
and then all of a sudden, I got this job.
But did I talk about the spirituality? Nothing? And now
I got this job. It's a worthless job. I mean,
it's getting me by, not even getting me by, because
I'm living in I bounce from crappy motel to crappy
motel at the time. Right, But I have I'm grateful
because when I wake up, I do have a shower
to take, I have a little mini fridge, I can
have cold water, and I have a place to lay down.
But is it a home yet?
Speaker 1: No, We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you still need to be broken further in order
to see the true version of yourself. While I was
in Lodi, right, I've been having these immense, vivid or
lucid dreams, and they were showing me exactly my height,
the success, the wealth, the everything right, but I can't
remember it. And this has happened now four times. There
he's showing me that this is here, it's happening. It's
it's like you walking. If you're walking continuously left, right,
going around left, your whole life just and then all
of a sudden you decide, I'm tired of going left.
I want to go right. Okay, so now you start
walking right. That version of yourself is still walking left.
You have to understand that there's a version of you
walking right. There's a version of you now that is
walking right, and there's a version that is still walking
behind you right. Those versions of all your you know
yourself is still taking place. You have one hundred different
versions of yourself right now, someone that is laying in
a ditch, dirt poor, an addict, or someone that's barely
scraping by. You know that you have many versions of yourself.
Speaker 1: You're talking about timelines.
Speaker 2: Right in your timeline that you're in right now. There
are one hundred different versions of yourself. Okay, So they
were showing the alignment of my soul's purpose, my higher
self that I can't reach any higher that is the
ultimate level to be at. Right. So sometimes and I'm like,
then why am i? Why am I in this job?
Why why am I going through this? You know, I
went through my dear and I'm on the spiritual path. Now,
why are you putting me back into something that's dead,
that doesn't exist because the past doesn't exist. Everything in
the world that is happening or in your life is now.
It's everything is now, okay. There is nothing two minutes
ago or you know, five hours from now, it doesn't exist.
Everything's happening now. So why am I in this? Why
did you put me in this situation? And then this
image was given to me. It's like when you see
an archer pulling back a bow right to pull that
arrow back. But sometimes you reach into the past, your
old life before that arrow is let go into what
is coming.
Speaker 1: And so you can actually turn that the other way correct,
and you got to go down right until right, so
farther the farther you go down the farther you're going
to go.
Speaker 2: That's correct when that arrow goes right, and that there's
what is taking place in my life right now. So
it may seem like, well, he's just homeless, he's a bum,
he's this, he's that. Oh no, no, I'm being prepared
for and molded for what is coming. And we as
that this species is very impatient. It wants now. It
wants everything now, instant gratification. Right. If I want an apple,
I want an apple now. If I want this, I'm
going to go right. It wants that. And sometimes, you know,
it's divine timing. It's all divine timing.
Speaker 1: So what's really interesting is you're saying that everybody, everybody
wants things now now. Now. There's a series that's on
our streaming platform called Wrote to Dharma where Yogi takes
a group of people into the mla is on a
motorcycle ride. It's a wonderful series. And you know, a
lot of these people come from the from the West
and they are in the himal and they like and
they're basically expecting this to be kind of like this
cool little retreat and we're going, you know, do yoga
and the Himalayas and I can instagram this shot and
all this kind of stuff, and the Yogi's like, no, right,
we are here to transcend. Yes, that was what he said,
was so so profound. You are here to transcend and
this is not an easy path. And he basically starts
showing the mirror to everybody. And that's not a fun thing.
But most people want enlightenment like they want fast food, right,
But enlightenment, self realization, awakening from the dream takes time
and dedication and dedication and struggle, and it's not and
there's pain all of it. It's again back to the matrix.
When Neo wakes up from the matrix and is brought
into the real world, it is one of the most
painful things. You know, the big the tubes and he's
in the thing and then he's flushed down a toilet
essentially and all this and you know it's all of
the his muscles are atrophied, all this kind of stuff.
Because that's in the great analogy of what it's like
to wake up. It's going to be painful. Right.
Speaker 2: Everybody thinks that having this near death experience is beautiful
and wonderful, Tell you right, and tell you. But not
only that when that happens, but then you know, I
went two years or three years later, I went through
my ascension process into the five D. That was brutally painful.
I lost seventy five pounds, I was sick, I quit eating,
I was dizzy, I fell out of the shower. I
lost my job again.
Speaker 1: There's a pattern here.
Speaker 2: That was a yeah, right, because what they're doing is
they're building me to my highest self. Right, because this
is the path that has to be taken. It's not easy.
Speaker 1: Whether you're building your capacity correct.
Speaker 2: So I transitioned from the carbon based body into the
crystalline body. So what was taking place is higher energy
light is entering my body. My DNA is being was
rewritten on a cellular level, transitioning from a carbon into
a silica base. Do you understand how painful that is?
I was an excruciating pain. And that night was the
first night I controlled healing my body, just like Jesus did.
I was in the middle of my ascension and I'm
telling you all, it was brutally painful. Brutally painful when
I went through this, and my back pain was on
an unimaginable level. I mean, I was beginning to sob unconditionally.
It hurts, so I could not lay on my side
on my back. I would have to turn every second
to try and find comfort, and I couldn't. I got
up and started walking, and I'm just in utter pain,
just sobbing during this ascension. And then I laid back
down in a fetal position, but my back was straight,
and I began to breathe. I don't know how I
began to do this, but I just began to breathe
and control my breath. And then I said, I and
the Father are one. And then I switched over to
mind and body are one, right mind. And this went
on for a while, and all of a sudden I
became juiced. I was vibrating at such a high frequency,
like every hair was standing up, and I could literally
hear every heartbeat.
Speaker 1: Boom boom, boom boom.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, a ring of energy
from the top of my crown chakra came down to
the middle of my neck or right between my shoulder blades,
and then it just stopped vibrating, and I said, make
it go away in my mind, and it went down
my spine and it crushed the pain in my lower
back and it went from a thousand probably down to
a twenty. And another ring came down and stopped right there,
and I said, make it go away. And this is
not out loud, and I'm just hearing my heartbeat and
I'm feeling just me vibrating at such a high level.
And it went down and it crushed the pain in
my back. That is exactly how Jesus healed. Everybody could see.
I could see the pain in my back, and I
directed that healing energy to my lower back and it
healed my back right. And then I because there was
so much pain and I hadn't slept in a while,
I passed out and I was like, anything I can do,
you can do, and more came into my mind. I
did exactly what Jesus did to Millennia go. But I
healed myself. And when I when I will say, this
is when you choose your parents, right, you create the body.
The ego does, okay, and how does the body? How's
the body created? Right? So when I just tell you,
I juiced up and I raised my energy right, you vibrate,
We vibrate so high, like I told you in my
near death experience I was juiced. That was the same
energy I was feeling that I was controlling. I was
controlling my powers. We vibrate so high that when we
begin to create our bodies, we lower our energy to
such a low vibration that it begins to form physical mass.
You begin to create your body. So when you get
mom and dad to mate, right, that's it. The ego
then begins to take over the body, and you know
it as an infant we're born. That is how a
body is formed. We lower our energy vibrations so low
that it begins to form physical mass. And here we
are the ego. You look exactly the way you look
because that's the way your ego wants you to look.
Same with me. That's how a baby or a fetus
is formed. You lower your vibration and now you are
controlling how you look.
Speaker 1: And then the trick is to raise your vibration while
still staying in the There you go, which is what
the masters do.
Speaker 2: That's what the masters do, and that is where I
am headed.
Speaker 1: That's we're all heading. Eventually, it could be all.
Speaker 2: Of us, all of all of us, but you're all
on your own individual path right and timeline. So you
are all exactly where you need to be. So when
people are watching this, I want you to understand that,
don't feel like, well, Jason's better than No, I'm not
better than anybody here. I'm just further along then on
my journey than you are. That's it. Anything that I
can do, you can do as well.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you this, all of you, go within.
Do not seek anything outside yourself. You will find pain, misery,
and death. Go within because that is where you are,
That is where everything is that God gave you on
this journey. You will find nothing outside yourself. It's all
an illusion and a dream.
Speaker 1: Jason, this has been a fascinating conversation. Brother. Where could
people find out more about you and the work you're
doing in the world.
Speaker 2: Ah, they can find me. I have my website Loveanlightjason
dot com, so you can find me there for one
on ones or seminars or public speaking events. I'm more
than happy to oblige you there, and of course my
YouTube channel, Love and Light Jason.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, my friend. Do you have any final words
or messages for the audience.
Speaker 2: I will always leave you with this. I love you
all so very much. You are all beautiful, you are all perfect,
and you are all divine, and you are all right
where you need to be. And I ask you to
just love one another as I love you. You're all perfect.
Speaker 1: Jason. It has been a pleasure, my friend. Thank you
so much for sharing all your stories, all your experiences,
and hopefully it will help somebody on their path who's watching.
And I shaite you and everything you doing to awaken
this planet, my friend, So thank.
Speaker 2: You absolutely again. Thank you Alex for having me. It's
been an honor and a priligic heare It was a
beautiful conversation.
Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
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