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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Can everybody welcome to Eye on the Ball here on.

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<v Speaker 3>Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera and today he

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<v Speaker 3>is Dave Silver.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm behind the mic, so no behind the board, so

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<v Speaker 2>good luck to me and we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>We've already got a stumbling block. But if you can

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<v Speaker 2>hear us, let me know. Cool, it's Tuesday. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>coming in, Dave.

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<v Speaker 3>Good. I do hear you, So everything's good on my end.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't hear me, which might be the best thing

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<v Speaker 2>that ever happened to radio. Well, keep talking, I can hear. Yes, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Tuesday show. Yeah, Action Pack. Did you watch

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<v Speaker 2>your game last night?

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<v Speaker 4>I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched the game on beautiful ESPN Plus. Look look good?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I continue to hear that they're having issues a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Bit here and there.

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<v Speaker 5>There was few times where they just kind of dropped

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<v Speaker 5>out and there was no signal for a second, but

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<v Speaker 5>they were they looked.

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<v Speaker 3>They looked fine when they were on the air. They

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<v Speaker 3>were good. Yeah, that's good. You were you were there

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<v Speaker 3>in person, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a certain person, and I watched the game, wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a column about it, kind of a calumn game story,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was it was what it was. They you know,

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<v Speaker 2>went out to that big lead.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>It reminded me of the big leads that Loot had

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<v Speaker 2>with Luke Walton and Channing Fry and these guys, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were just blitz teams, you know, blitz them and

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<v Speaker 2>then it would just kind of be coasting. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to this game that they took the twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>to four lead. I think it was they went twenty

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<v Speaker 2>to zero I think at one point. Yeah, and you're thinking, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be fun. In fact, I tweeted,

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<v Speaker 2>can we just call it a run rule and go home?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you was going to be like the.

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<v Speaker 5>Game was decided literally in the last in the first

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<v Speaker 5>you know, two minutes of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and then they kind of kind of mismatch.

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of held steady the rest of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was one of one of my questions to

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy was how difficult is it to and you know

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<v Speaker 2>how this how difficult is to to keep a pedal

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<v Speaker 2>on the middle like that when you're twenty five, you're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just playing.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, Yeah, you want to get guys a chance to play.

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<v Speaker 5>There were people you know, you know on that roster

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<v Speaker 5>who it was their first real game, you know, so

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<v Speaker 5>that I guess they were talking about some post game

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<v Speaker 5>or some game game time jitters for some of the

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<v Speaker 5>newer players, a couple of.

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<v Speaker 3>Freshmen, a couple of transfers.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's different than the exhibitions, different red blues. So these

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<v Speaker 5>were real, real you know, games account for statistics.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to get used to these late night games.

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<v Speaker 2>Duke in two weeks is going to be a late

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<v Speaker 2>night game on a Friday on Friday night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's that's the aberration because everyone's going to

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<v Speaker 2>want to get to that game. I've heard tickets are

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<v Speaker 2>upwards of three four thousand dollars. Really, yeah, wow, some

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<v Speaker 2>in some spots. Right, it's got to be.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the more high demanded games we've had here

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<v Speaker 5>in a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well in forever, let me see.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they had that in Sean's time,

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<v Speaker 2>although I wasn't as close to that program when when

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<v Speaker 2>I left the paper, But I'm thinking the last time

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<v Speaker 2>this happened, and you were probably still in the business

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<v Speaker 2>at the TV show when North Carolina came in, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>with the demand for that thing. But it was in

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred seven hundred eight hundred dollars. Yeah, particular, you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking nineteen or two thousand and six seven around there.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a Saturday game. Marcus Williams was still here

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<v Speaker 3>Chase day, like maybe two in the afternoon. It wasn't ye.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a perfect, perfect timing and they just.

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<v Speaker 2>Got destroyed and they just, yeah, this didn't show up.

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<v Speaker 3>It was terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>They had just come back from the California That was

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the well, it was probably the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the end of Loot's time, you know, he was

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and seven something like that. Didn't show up,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't play, and they were just not very good. That's

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<v Speaker 2>probably outside of his first year or so. That may

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<v Speaker 2>have been his his worst team. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>one of his worst losses. Uh yeah, well even even

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<v Speaker 2>possibly I'm giving three. I can't remember the final of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it was double digits in the twenties. Maybe LSU.

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<v Speaker 2>They played LSU over LSU got crushed by Stromole swift

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<v Speaker 2>jobari why I think it was. And then they the

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<v Speaker 2>Utah game, Utah game in the tournament, the lead eight

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<v Speaker 2>where they just got blitzed. That may have been the

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<v Speaker 2>worst loss of all time in margin wise. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you were there or were you there for

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest What then in Denver, Denver when they lost

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<v Speaker 2>in UNLV.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was that was crushing. Was crushing underneath that

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<v Speaker 3>right at me? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And then eighty eight of course when they just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>Steve didn't shoot the ball. Well, yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on. Yeah, is it maybe not qued up

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<v Speaker 2>or something. It's strange. I don't know, but I can

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<v Speaker 2>hear everybody. I hope we can get some calls in

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<v Speaker 2>at some point. Let me tell you what the show

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<v Speaker 2>looks like. Today we'll talk more about basketball day and

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<v Speaker 2>thanks again for coming in. Sure we have uh, we

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<v Speaker 2>have sauld Bookman from p h n X from Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in town yesterday or U of a grad

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<v Speaker 2>who's kind of helping run that that website and those

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts up in Phoenix in town to do some stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he covers the Sun. I can hear him static,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not not me. That's strange. And uh so

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<v Speaker 2>he's there at the three seventeen hour in about ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>then we're going to have at four seventeen, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have uh oh, Michael Eb, Michael Eb. Yeah, Michael

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<v Speaker 2>lov I just want to touch base with him. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been busy with the football program, obviously, Jube. He covered

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<v Speaker 2>or watched the UA women's game last night and then

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<v Speaker 2>he was there for the men's game, so he's working

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<v Speaker 2>double duty last night's game.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was just it was one of those days

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<v Speaker 5>we had both games were on the plus it's very rare.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, the four o'clock start for the women's game,

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<v Speaker 5>I was watching some of that. Joe Vavassini on the

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<v Speaker 5>call there, she's gonna, you know, continues her commentary role.

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<v Speaker 5>She was on the PAC twelve network for a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of years. So good to see the head coach back.

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<v Speaker 5>And then followed up by the men's game later on.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, he's good, right, Yeah, no, no, no, long day.

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<v Speaker 2>Melbach was on that right with mill Buck was on

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<v Speaker 2>with and Sutton during Sundon. I got to get him

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<v Speaker 2>on the show too. He was good last time he

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<v Speaker 2>was on. Yeah, he's good. A year and then Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt was kind of talking about who, uh I think

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<v Speaker 2>was it Townsend or no? No, maybe a Waka who.

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<v Speaker 2>He reminded he didn't have a measurable for him. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you I put something on the on the old Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing I was said, your chance thouars? Did

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<v Speaker 3>you hear me?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? You can hear me?

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<v Speaker 6>I can hear you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Okay you couldn't you had them off? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Michael writes, is not a battle. I went with

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<v Speaker 2>geene Edgerson because he's more defense any offense. Well, he's

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<v Speaker 2>more defensive offense, and Waka Waka was is not mostly defense.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not an offensive guy, right right, So, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>a big body kind of like those both those guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and they take up room different than the real big guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Came in last night and had a chance to play.

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<v Speaker 5>So that was kind of fun to see Crevious on

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<v Speaker 5>the on the court for the first time. Henry played

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<v Speaker 5>until until he left whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>How did he look on philm on the TV? Because

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<v Speaker 2>to me, he's like lost some weight. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that's the truth, but my eyes maybe been deceiving.

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<v Speaker 5>He's he's still big, you know, there's nobody even close

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<v Speaker 5>to his side out there, so he had that one dunk.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to say, you know where he was prettym

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<v Speaker 5>he made a nice move and got close. There's nobody

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<v Speaker 5>really could even contest. Well, he looks he makes Henry

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<v Speaker 5>look small. Yeah, those are two big guys. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>mean there's again, if they're gonna be if they can

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<v Speaker 5>be mobile, because they're they're going to face other teams.

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<v Speaker 5>They are going to have you know, that quality six

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<v Speaker 5>nine guy who's pretty athletic that they might have trouble with, right,

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, if they're just dominating some six five

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<v Speaker 5>seniors or six five center, they're gonna have their way.

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<v Speaker 3>Right Yeah, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, it's funny because the first game we saw,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw a lot from Townsend, Townson, right, uh and

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<v Speaker 2>uh waka early in the exhibition game, so we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of glimpse of the other guys and what they can do.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, Dave, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna come down to what we always expect the

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<v Speaker 2>perimeter players, right, you know, Jean Bradley, kg Lewis and

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<v Speaker 2>Love and.

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<v Speaker 3>They all played great last Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Really, their numbers were good and I mean that's basically

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<v Speaker 5>what you know, what won them the game?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did you even notice?

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<v Speaker 7>Love?

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<v Speaker 3>And this is a serious question.

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<v Speaker 5>Early on he kind of set the tone. He hit

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<v Speaker 5>that three, like right off the bat, and then he

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<v Speaker 5>made a couple. I think he had like seven of

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<v Speaker 5>their first nine points something like that. Yeah, and after

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<v Speaker 5>that he just kind of, you know, he was he

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<v Speaker 5>was out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what they want from him. Not

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to do everything. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>score a lot of points. He was seven for fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>some like that efficient for him three four eight maybe

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<v Speaker 2>from the three point line, so you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to score twenty five to get noticed. I think

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<v Speaker 2>his role is going to be exactly that. Just be efficient,

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<v Speaker 2>be smart, and I think the scouts will find you.

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<v Speaker 2>I still and you and I have talked about this,

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<v Speaker 2>where he's last on the list of the NBA guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're thinking he's an first team All American? How

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<v Speaker 2>is that happening?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how that's possible. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 5>we're What are we not seeing?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the questions defense? You know, you hit on the head.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we not seeing? And that's the question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, me too, I mean, wait, there's got to be something.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, you're scoring twenty points a game, you're

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and he's got well, what do we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably gonna make more money here anyway, for whatever

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<v Speaker 5>Than going to some G League situation or Europe or something. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>Have you been to a G League game?

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<v Speaker 2>No, neither, Why and guess what I might've venture to

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, I haven't really have never really lived near

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<v Speaker 5>we haven't really been exposed to that. Games rarely on television,

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<v Speaker 5>so sometimes, like you said, sometimes you'll see them and

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<v Speaker 5>Or six months, whatever it is, Yeah, and then see

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's why he writes kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know who you know a guy who was

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't remember that because he was like the thirty.

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<v Speaker 5>He was real close, right, Yeah, you just got to

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<v Speaker 5>you know, didn't you have Chase On?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he's the second rounder sick around. Yeah, he lasted

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<v Speaker 2>And I said he was the best recruit that ever,

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<v Speaker 2>Lutz said that he was the best recruit to ever

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<v Speaker 3>Time, well, Luke Walton was not a first round pick. No,

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<v Speaker 3>there's been a lot of ten years. Probably there's been

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<v Speaker 2>You can go through the list, and that's the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing is I think one of the things or marks

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<v Speaker 2>during Loot's time. I'm not sure if that's the case

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<v Speaker 2>with Sean, but they were ready for the NBA. They

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<v Speaker 5>He wanted them to have a career, not just go

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe big contract.

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<v Speaker 5>But then Lut's was always was always talking about I

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<v Speaker 3>Very much so.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was the second round guy. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>so a lot of the list, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon, guys. Hey, now on the phone, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Are we on the air. That's yeah, we on the

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<v Speaker 3>You saw bookman from p h n X in Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you saw?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for the helping us with the confusion. M HM,

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<v Speaker 2>get us out of Houston. Welcome to Redio Live. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I just our person, my my first time doing these

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<v Speaker 2>How is it being back in McHale Center. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>no question. You've been out for like five six years, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>no question. Uh what did you make of the team?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, no question.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can have as much success as you

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<v Speaker 2>can in November, December, January, and February, but you're measured

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<v Speaker 2>in March.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've seen what happens in March. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I always feel like they're they're they always sit back

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<v Speaker 6>and take a look at, you know, what they could

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<v Speaker 6>And I and I'm sure that getting to the final

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure they learned a lot from last year, and

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<v Speaker 6>they learned a lot from the year before, and they'll

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<v Speaker 6>consistently make those those adjustments as they go along.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're talking to Sew a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>p h n X in Phoenix. Uh, you're covering, you're covering.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you covering now? Because I know you were

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so right now, you know, I'm doing some some

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<v Speaker 6>And then I still do my show with Eddie Johnson,

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<v Speaker 6>So uh, that's how I keep myself busy and in

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So what are you kind of looking for down

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, I just do you know, supple mail content,

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<v Speaker 6>able to do it with a former uf A player

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, really last night and wanted to see

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we'll get the feel for what this version

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<v Speaker 6>get into Wisconsin and Duke to start. You know, really

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<v Speaker 6>next week.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've been here time or two since you've left.

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<v Speaker 2>You're here for the end of Sean, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>near the end of Sean. What do you make of Tommy?

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<v Speaker 6>I love them, I love them, I think you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I know sometimes he'll get a lot of flak just

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<v Speaker 6>coming up short of expectations. But I just really love

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<v Speaker 6>not only before the season but during the season, because

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<v Speaker 6>there is those are two different animals, right, and you

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<v Speaker 6>of the most cerebral coaches in college basketball, and he

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't get enough credit for that. And I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you'd be hard pressed to find another leader of your

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<v Speaker 6>program that does more with less than Tommy. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>just developing them to feel confident and comfortable in those moments,

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<v Speaker 6>You can't if you're a if you're a parent and

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00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 6>you have a player that's about and you have a

643
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 6>kid that's about to go play for Tommy Lloyd, you

644
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:20.200
<v Speaker 6>got to feel a thousand percent confident in the development

645
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:23.160
<v Speaker 6>of their future, you know.

646
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 5>So it's pretty amazing too when you think about the roster,

647
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.319
<v Speaker 5>the makeup of it. You know, you've got transfers, you've

648
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 5>got international players, you've got freshmen, you've got guys who've

649
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:34.480
<v Speaker 5>been around the program for now for you know, three

650
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.640
<v Speaker 5>or four years. Talk about just the challenges of being

651
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<v Speaker 5>a head coach in this in this day and age

652
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:41.960
<v Speaker 5>where it's such a mixture of talent and you just

653
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:43.680
<v Speaker 5>try to put it together and and and make sure

654
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<v Speaker 5>it's good.

655
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<v Speaker 3>By March, Well, you know.

656
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<v Speaker 6>What's so funny is I think about this a lot,

657
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 6>because you know, when I first got to Tucson, I

658
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<v Speaker 6>had I had applied to be the head coach over

659
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:58.759
<v Speaker 6>at Ironwood Ridge and and one of the reasons you

660
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:00.319
<v Speaker 6>know I was I was one of the last too,

661
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:05.440
<v Speaker 6>is the running and the coach that they chose, you know,

662
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 6>had a lot of relationships with a lot of club programs,

663
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.400
<v Speaker 6>and at the time, I don't think I realized how

664
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.079
<v Speaker 6>deep that really runs. And to be a coach is

665
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.240
<v Speaker 6>kind of similar. You have to have not only connections

666
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 6>all over the place, but you also have to have

667
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 6>such a good kind of focus on every little level,

668
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.880
<v Speaker 6>not only on the recruiting side for high school, but

669
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 6>also the transfer portal nil in house. You got to

670
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 6>keep your players happy. Like I used to think, man,

671
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:38.680
<v Speaker 6>that would be a dream job to be a college

672
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 6>head coach and recruit around the country and then come

673
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:44.319
<v Speaker 6>back and you know, coach your program. I don't think.

674
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 6>I think being a college coach, granted it pays very well,

675
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 6>is probably one of my like maybe my fiftieth choice

676
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:57.680
<v Speaker 6>of occupation, just because it just seems so daunted. This

677
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:01.759
<v Speaker 6>is so tireless, tiring, Like there's just so much work

678
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 6>that you have to do to prepare yourself for success, man,

679
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:06.880
<v Speaker 6>And you've got to be you got you gotta be

680
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 6>a special dude, and you've got to have a really

681
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:10.880
<v Speaker 6>good team around you to be able to pull that

682
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 6>off as well.

683
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Say, you have to have good coaches.

684
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:15.960
<v Speaker 5>Jack Murphy has got, you know, great connections around the world,

685
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:18.720
<v Speaker 5>as does Tommy, so you know that's worked out for them.

686
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, let me say this, if that's the fiftieth job,

687
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.839
<v Speaker 2>I think college football would be fifty first.

688
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:27.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it'd be one hundred and fifty first.

689
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 3>That's why you're Alma monitored with football.

690
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, you have this guy who has this dream job,

691
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 2>came into a good situation, and now you see this.

692
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 6>I don't wanna. I don't wanna. I don't want to

693
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 6>disrespect Brett Brannan because I think his heart is in

694
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.680
<v Speaker 6>the right place. But the thing that I keep going

695
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.799
<v Speaker 6>back to right now is as you were taking over

696
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:54.799
<v Speaker 6>the program, you knew what the expectations are. And so

697
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:57.960
<v Speaker 6>when I hear you know things like you said in

698
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:02.240
<v Speaker 6>his press conference earlier today, I believe about you know,

699
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:05.200
<v Speaker 6>expectations and not really having the talent to meet up

700
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.680
<v Speaker 6>to those expectations because of injury and blah blah blah,

701
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.680
<v Speaker 6>like kids don't want to hear that. Nobody wants to

702
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 6>hear that. And a good coach, I'm sorry, a good

703
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.359
<v Speaker 6>coach will find a way to overcome most of those.

704
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 6>I'm not saying that they should be undefeated. I'm not

705
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:21.759
<v Speaker 6>saying that they should be you know, heck, you know,

706
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:23.880
<v Speaker 6>a five hundred record right about now, I think I

707
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 6>would live with because of all the injuries. But they've

708
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:32.000
<v Speaker 6>looked largely uncompetitive, they've looked disorganized, and the development has

709
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.079
<v Speaker 6>not been where it needs to be, even from you know,

710
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:38.839
<v Speaker 6>just a schematic standpoint. And that's the thing that really

711
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:42.079
<v Speaker 6>gives me a lot of pause for concern, because you

712
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.000
<v Speaker 6>can't how do you develop anybody if they don't know

713
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:46.799
<v Speaker 6>what they're doing on a day to day basis, And

714
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:48.160
<v Speaker 6>that's problematic.

715
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:50.119
<v Speaker 3>No, I think you pegged it on the head.

716
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Early on, there were a lot of there were a

717
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>lot of penalties, a lot of disciplinary things that you

718
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 2>could think, you know, how does this happen? And it

719
00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:59.799
<v Speaker 2>continued to happen, and then the injuries happen, and then

720
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>it just kind of steamroll to the end.

721
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:03.880
<v Speaker 3>What do you what do you make of it? What

722
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 3>do you make of this? Is he going to survive

723
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.239
<v Speaker 3>the first year? We think that he's got to survive

724
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 3>because there's no money.

725
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:13.880
<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, listen, I think that they could always

726
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 6>find the money if they really really want to. But

727
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:19.679
<v Speaker 6>I don't think he's going anywhere. I think desiret read

728
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:24.199
<v Speaker 6>Francois has a huge decision to make, and I think

729
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 6>the decision is kind of easy if you look at

730
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 6>the financial aspect of this. Get rid of the entire

731
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.920
<v Speaker 6>coaching staff outside of Brett Brennan. Maybe Dwayne A. Keena

732
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:37.400
<v Speaker 6>obviously want to keep him, but offensively, that whole staff

733
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:39.320
<v Speaker 6>has got to go, and you got you're going to

734
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:42.000
<v Speaker 6>hire somebody that you believe in for the future of

735
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.960
<v Speaker 6>this program if Brennan does stumble again next year, and

736
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:48.239
<v Speaker 6>I think that's going to be the route that they take.

737
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, no, I totally agree.

738
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.719
<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, that seems to be kind of

739
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.800
<v Speaker 5>the way things are done in college sports these days,

740
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:58.960
<v Speaker 5>where they go after the assistance, which is a shame,

741
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:00.559
<v Speaker 5>but that's kind of how it's gone.

742
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 3>But I you know, Steve was saying how this has.

743
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 5>Kind of been an ongoing thing all you remember, like

744
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.199
<v Speaker 5>the first or second week, there was some comments I

745
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.320
<v Speaker 5>think got there was you know, some players were in

746
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:11.639
<v Speaker 5>the wrong position or they were in the wrong places

747
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:13.400
<v Speaker 5>on on on some of the pass plays, and the

748
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:16.159
<v Speaker 5>timing has been has been pretty bad really through most

749
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.199
<v Speaker 5>of the season, which you know, I doubt they'll fix

750
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.199
<v Speaker 5>that then in the last three weeks, but you know,

751
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 5>I guess maybe changes are ahead.

752
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.400
<v Speaker 6>Well not only that, but like you know, you just

753
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:30.239
<v Speaker 6>mentioned that the the receivers not knowing what routes to run. Uh,

754
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.360
<v Speaker 6>And then if you look at if you really look

755
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:35.679
<v Speaker 6>hard on tape and you you look as you know,

756
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.119
<v Speaker 6>sometimes it's kind of difficult to see the the the

757
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:41.880
<v Speaker 6>all twenty two angle unless you got you know, access,

758
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 6>But if you ever get a chance, look at the

759
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:48.119
<v Speaker 6>receivers and the way they run their routes. If if

760
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 6>they're not the primary route runner, some of those receivers

761
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 6>are taking plays off, which obviously, if you're a defense

762
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 6>and you can key in on that, you're going to

763
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:01.039
<v Speaker 6>start to shift over to where that primary target is.

764
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:06.199
<v Speaker 6>And again, I just I really feel like this is uh,

765
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:09.800
<v Speaker 6>this is just really disorganized on a lot of different levels,

766
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:11.239
<v Speaker 6>and it's going to be up to coach Brennan to

767
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 6>fix it, and he better because the way this makes

768
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.440
<v Speaker 6>me feel right now is very sing esque.

769
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 15>It just be.

770
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:24.559
<v Speaker 6>So if you didn't know Brett Brennan before and know

771
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:28.000
<v Speaker 6>how much he loves this program. How would you if

772
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.519
<v Speaker 6>you if I showed you both of those teams, right

773
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 6>if I showed you a sumlling team in year two

774
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 6>or three and Brent Brennan's team in year one or two, like,

775
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.719
<v Speaker 6>would you be able to identify which is which?

776
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:40.920
<v Speaker 3>He's?

777
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Right?

778
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 3>Well?

779
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:43.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but the good thing is that, like you said,

780
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.480
<v Speaker 5>Brent wants to be here, which is maybe what Kevin

781
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:47.880
<v Speaker 5>didn't really care too much about.

782
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 3>You want to be here, but you're still not doing

783
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:50.960
<v Speaker 3>anything that's problem.

784
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:52.960
<v Speaker 5>Hopefully you know he's got he's got the motivation of

785
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:54.960
<v Speaker 5>warning to still be in Tucson and still be at

786
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:55.320
<v Speaker 5>the U of A.

787
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:59.239
<v Speaker 3>And you know, hopefully he's open to the changes. It'll

788
00:36:59.239 --> 00:36:59.920
<v Speaker 3>probably be asked.

789
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:03.719
<v Speaker 6>If I think he'll do whatever it takes to try

790
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 6>and write this ship. I do think that. But does

791
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.320
<v Speaker 6>he have does he have the ability? Does he have

792
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:14.000
<v Speaker 6>that the touch to be able to execute that at

793
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:14.599
<v Speaker 6>a high level.

794
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:16.679
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing that I don't know about right Well,

795
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:18.519
<v Speaker 2>the good thing is you have plenty of content to

796
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:22.679
<v Speaker 2>talk about. I will too when you're doing for sure,

797
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Jump security, Buddy, Jump security.

798
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Saul, thank you very much. I hope to get you

799
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:29.360
<v Speaker 3>back when you have a chance.

800
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:32.519
<v Speaker 6>Anytime, fellas. I appreciate it. Thanks Dade.

801
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Well wait wait, wait real quick? How can they find you?

802
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 3>How can people find you?

803
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:38.960
<v Speaker 6>You can follow me at saul Underscore Bookman, or you

804
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 6>can follow the Azy Wildcats podcast through pH and X

805
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 6>Sports on any YouTube. Uh well on YouTube?

806
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, great, thanks, so appreciate you.

807
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:50.719
<v Speaker 6>Thanks guys.

808
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 3>Thanks.

809
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I think what we're not going to do is we're

810
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:55.119
<v Speaker 2>not going to go to break because I think we

811
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 2>use the brake our weight year to get back. I

812
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:01.639
<v Speaker 2>think I know what was going on. So we'll say

813
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.239
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go all the way live here with you

814
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 2>and me, Dave. Great, listen to Saul. He he's on

815
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 2>the money with a lot of things, at least, how

816
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 2>I think, because if you did put these things together

817
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>and says who's who and what's what, and and maybe

818
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.159
<v Speaker 2>you've got to give him a lot of leeway, and

819
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:24.119
<v Speaker 2>you probably do because of the first year stuff and

820
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.719
<v Speaker 2>YadA YadA, But but he's right I mean, you look

821
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 2>at things and they just don't feel right right well,

822
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hate.

823
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:35.039
<v Speaker 5>To make it a big pictures situation, but there's it's

824
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.639
<v Speaker 5>kind of a you know, a lull around the u

825
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 5>of A these years, the last year or so, and

826
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:42.559
<v Speaker 5>for this to happen and us now think you know,

827
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:44.079
<v Speaker 5>and now we're gonna have to try to pay off

828
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.079
<v Speaker 5>another coach again. They're already paying for two athletic directors.

829
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 5>They're still paying for a president who's not here.

830
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even think about the ad. Yeah, they're still

831
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:53.840
<v Speaker 3>paying these people, these guys off.

832
00:38:53.960 --> 00:39:00.480
<v Speaker 5>So I don't think that's going to be happening anytime soon, right,

833
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 5>But but you know, it's the worst possible time to

834
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.239
<v Speaker 5>have a really bad football season. Sure is that people

835
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.079
<v Speaker 5>are going to be, you know, calling for this and

836
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:12.119
<v Speaker 5>just throwing out ideas that they're not they're not there.

837
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, here's your issue too, because you're out there going

838
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:16.639
<v Speaker 2>or you were out there trying to get some money

839
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:19.559
<v Speaker 2>from people who love this program or love this school

840
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.480
<v Speaker 2>school pretty much rather than sports. But sports was the

841
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:26.280
<v Speaker 2>gateway to your conversations, right well, for me, yeah, for

842
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:29.079
<v Speaker 2>you and for people like you, because you know, you're

843
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to get money and what's the connection.

844
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:32.920
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean it's the the UFA is still raising

845
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 5>three hundred million dollars a year. And it's not all

846
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 5>for athletics, no, no, no, no, there's people giving.

847
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 2>But the conversations are, hey, how about that football team

848
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:44.519
<v Speaker 2>sometimes so so there's that and and like now they

849
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.840
<v Speaker 2>have a buy and they come back and they play Houston,

850
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:49.239
<v Speaker 2>give me a gift, no matter how many people are

851
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Speaker 2>going to show up for that game.

852
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:54.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, on a Friday night late late stars. Yeah, and

853
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:58.280
<v Speaker 5>where do you generate money? Yeah, so they'll be lucky

854
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:02.159
<v Speaker 5>to get you forty thousand because you're you're a nice

855
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 5>guide day. I don't know, I'm thinking twenty five, maybe

856
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:06.400
<v Speaker 5>thirty if they're lucky.

857
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:06.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

858
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.119
<v Speaker 2>And I hate to be poo pooing it, but it's

859
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.119
<v Speaker 2>just realistic. Friday night, you says, Friday night, eight o'clock

860
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:15.599
<v Speaker 2>e thirty whatever, it is, late game.

861
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:17.880
<v Speaker 3>What are you for?

862
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Both teams not very good? Right, Remember, Tucson on a

863
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:26.280
<v Speaker 2>good day is forty five forty. This is Tucson on

864
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:29.079
<v Speaker 2>a bad day. And here they are, you know, basically

865
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:32.719
<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the the Big twelve. Oklahoma State's

866
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:34.639
<v Speaker 2>the only other team that doesn't have a win in

867
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:37.559
<v Speaker 2>the in the conference, So that's kind of sad.

868
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:39.239
<v Speaker 3>So circumstances of events.

869
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.119
<v Speaker 2>So, Youvey, I think many thought that there could be

870
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:45.440
<v Speaker 2>changes yesterday, that he would bring in some change from

871
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe at the assistant level or whatever. I'm not too

872
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:50.760
<v Speaker 2>sure about that because you know, you have three games left.

873
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.480
<v Speaker 3>What's it? What's it mean now? No, I don't think

874
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:54.079
<v Speaker 3>it means much.

875
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:54.679
<v Speaker 2>You know.

876
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.280
<v Speaker 5>Plus, these guys have been out recruiting. I'm sure too. Yeah,

877
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.320
<v Speaker 5>and that's probably what this week is for with with

878
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:03.079
<v Speaker 5>with the buy. You know, I'm not sure you want

879
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:04.079
<v Speaker 5>to break up everybody.

880
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Now.

881
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 5>Usually these coaching moves kind of happen as the season,

882
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:12.159
<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe in that December period with the season's

883
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:14.159
<v Speaker 5>over and you know, other teams are getting ready for

884
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:17.159
<v Speaker 5>bowl games and you know, shuffling coaches during the holidays

885
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:17.719
<v Speaker 5>for their family.

886
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:19.519
<v Speaker 3>Mean, it's a tough business, it really is. You know,

887
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:20.440
<v Speaker 3>you move out a.

888
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:22.119
<v Speaker 5>Couple of coaches here, You've got to take a couple

889
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:23.199
<v Speaker 5>of coaches from somewhere else.

890
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:24.119
<v Speaker 3>It's hard.

891
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:26.360
<v Speaker 2>There's a reason why they get paid a lot of money. Yeah,

892
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:28.960
<v Speaker 2>but that's also you know, it's also you know, party.

893
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:30.880
<v Speaker 2>You're right, it's part of that business. Part of the business,

894
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:33.159
<v Speaker 2>and at the end of the day, you rated on

895
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:36.559
<v Speaker 2>what success. Yeah, your wins and losses, and if those

896
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:40.480
<v Speaker 2>don't happen consistently, you're not the coaching anymore. Yeah, no

897
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 2>matter how good of a guy you are.

898
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

899
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 5>One of the things I always was wondering about too,

900
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:47.880
<v Speaker 5>speaking of coaching changes, was moving Ricky Hunley and Chuck

901
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:51.519
<v Speaker 5>Cecil kind of off the staff. You know, maybe that

902
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:53.920
<v Speaker 5>was their decision, maybe it was Brent's decision, but that

903
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:56.800
<v Speaker 5>never has really been explained. And those are two iconic

904
00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:00.199
<v Speaker 5>members of the U of a family. Maybe they didn't

905
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 5>want to coach anymore.

906
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:01.280
<v Speaker 6>I don't.

907
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not quite sure. No, that's a good question, Dave.

908
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 2>It's probably something that power will be is assumed, or don't.

909
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:10.559
<v Speaker 2>They don't want to ask the question, you know, because

910
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:12.800
<v Speaker 2>you get an answer and then you know this is

911
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:14.360
<v Speaker 2>but don't say anything.

912
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:16.880
<v Speaker 3>But people know, people know.

913
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:18.360
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it was such a big deal to get

914
00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:20.159
<v Speaker 5>them here to begin with a couple of years ago,

915
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.679
<v Speaker 5>and they were all out to the staff and Jed

916
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.000
<v Speaker 5>Fish is going to bring in, you know, these former wildcats,

917
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:26.119
<v Speaker 5>and then they're gone.

918
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:29.960
<v Speaker 2>The first year, asked me about that supermodel. I'm David

919
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:31.360
<v Speaker 2>was their name again?

920
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

921
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Just okay, whatever, just Steve, you were dating that super

922
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead and asked you were dating a supermodel? Oh yeah, yeah, Dave.

923
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't like talking about it now, you know. I'm

924
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:43.559
<v Speaker 2>just we're not together anymore. But I don't want to

925
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.360
<v Speaker 2>get into the details. You know what. You could talk

926
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 2>about the engagement, but when it's over, you like, can

927
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:50.800
<v Speaker 2>we not talk about that? And that's what the situation

928
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.360
<v Speaker 2>is with your two guys, right, Although they're they're very

929
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.960
<v Speaker 2>prominent because Cecil Chuck is still on the field every

930
00:42:56.039 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 2>now and again, and Hunley's still doing his stuff recruiting

931
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:02.719
<v Speaker 2>or talking to the kids and stuff like that. So

932
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:04.400
<v Speaker 2>they're kind of involved but not involved.

933
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

934
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, and you know, they're now over thirty

935
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:09.920
<v Speaker 5>years away from their playing careers here and a lot

936
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:12.880
<v Speaker 5>of the kids maybe don't know who Ricky Henley was

937
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.360
<v Speaker 5>or what he did and what Chuck did, how important

938
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 5>they were. But I think a lot of the fans

939
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:20.159
<v Speaker 5>who've been around for a long time just kind of

940
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:21.840
<v Speaker 5>wonder why are they not there anymore?

941
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:22.440
<v Speaker 6>Right?

942
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they'll call in good.

943
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I hope I can get him on because he saw

944
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 2>me the first time with these phones. Oh no, it's

945
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.199
<v Speaker 2>like panic in the streets. Yeah, we can talk more

946
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 2>about basketball. I think I think it was a star.

947
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.320
<v Speaker 2>They they they've already labeled these guys the Baltic What

948
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:44.079
<v Speaker 2>are they calling them? Yeah, there's the Baltic bigs, the

949
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:45.199
<v Speaker 2>two the two big guys.

950
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Who said that? Who called them?

951
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Since the headline? I haven't even read the story from

952
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:53.960
<v Speaker 2>last night. Yeah, oh that's that's that's cool. I just

953
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:56.639
<v Speaker 2>like Corey called him. I like to call them passport

954
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you you know, because there's so many people.

955
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 6>But it is what it is.

956
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:02.280
<v Speaker 3>So we'll see how he does.

957
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Uh. I agree with him with assault in terms of

958
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.679
<v Speaker 2>the development of the guys. They get better as they

959
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:10.920
<v Speaker 2>as they move along the system.

960
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:12.400
<v Speaker 6>Some did not.

961
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Boswell did not, but he had the kind of like

962
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 2>fun and games issues. Yeah, wasn't taking things seriously. Bollo

963
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.159
<v Speaker 2>couldn't hit free throws, but he was pretty good. So

964
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 2>it worked for some people some people, doesn't, you know.

965
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I just wonder.

966
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.719
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they've they've stuck around, they've got hurt. Both

967
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:32.519
<v Speaker 5>guys got injured in the last couple of years, and

968
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 5>they've they're still here, so they must have they must

969
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 5>have some good thoughts about Tommy and just the way

970
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.880
<v Speaker 5>the program could go. And sure, you know they're going

971
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 5>to play professionally someplace, maybe not in the US, but

972
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 5>they can go back to their countries and develop even more.

973
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:48.719
<v Speaker 3>They might have to take a pay good.

974
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but though I'm still confused on the international payments

975
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:55.239
<v Speaker 2>because I don't think they can get paid upfront.

976
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:57.480
<v Speaker 3>They have to wait for the nil situation.

977
00:44:58.400 --> 00:44:59.679
<v Speaker 5>And a lot I mean, I don't want to get

978
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:01.199
<v Speaker 5>too deep into it because I didn't really read the

979
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 5>entire article, but a lot of it, a lot of

980
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:10.679
<v Speaker 5>today's election has some importance to college athletics. Well who

981
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.000
<v Speaker 5>there's Ross Ellinger wrote a big piece on Yahoo about that,

982
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:15.960
<v Speaker 5>and you know, I suggest people look at that and

983
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:18.599
<v Speaker 5>just sort of see kind of what, uh, what's out

984
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:23.039
<v Speaker 5>there and what some of the Congress people will be

985
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:26.880
<v Speaker 5>looking at in terms of N I L and Title

986
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 5>nine and uh, you know other things in college athletics.

987
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:32.280
<v Speaker 15>So there's.

988
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:35.599
<v Speaker 3>Thing, but it's on Yahoo. You didn't read the.

989
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Entire thing, No, it was just so that's me. You know,

990
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:42.920
<v Speaker 2>it's very long, very long. Yeah, and nobody reads that stuff.

991
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:47.079
<v Speaker 2>But no, I'll read it just for background because there's

992
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.199
<v Speaker 2>no question and it's funny because there was something thrown

993
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:54.760
<v Speaker 2>out there. I think it was Utah And it doesn't

994
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:58.079
<v Speaker 2>surprise me at all about nil where you know, Dave,

995
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:01.159
<v Speaker 2>Dave Silver's getting paid one point five million dollars. The

996
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:03.519
<v Speaker 2>rest of the group that he's that's protecting him makes

997
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, fifty thousand dollars exactly. And there's a disconnect,

998
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.320
<v Speaker 2>there's a there's a jealousy or whatever word you want

999
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:13.559
<v Speaker 2>to use because you're making that and we're making you

1000
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:14.079
<v Speaker 2>look good.

1001
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.119
<v Speaker 5>Well, they're paying all this money, you know, most of

1002
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:20.119
<v Speaker 5>are paying for the quarterbacks put you know, let's be serious.

1003
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:23.440
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm sure Noah is making the most and

1004
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:26.639
<v Speaker 5>they have an X amount of dollars they can spend

1005
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:28.639
<v Speaker 5>and they're going to get this what twenty million dollar

1006
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.400
<v Speaker 5>budgeted money here soon. So they're gonna that's what teams

1007
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:34.599
<v Speaker 5>are doing. It's going to be like a professional franchise

1008
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:36.440
<v Speaker 5>where you have to, you know, figure out what you

1009
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:38.159
<v Speaker 5>need and how much these guys are going to want

1010
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:39.920
<v Speaker 5>and who's going to get the most. And it's gonna

1011
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure there's going to be moments in locker rooms

1012
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:45.159
<v Speaker 5>where you're looking around down the row and going, man,

1013
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 5>that guy's making like ten times more than I'm making.

1014
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:49.679
<v Speaker 3>Sure, why am I trying to protect him? Don't we

1015
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:51.119
<v Speaker 3>see that in the workforce anyway?

1016
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:51.400
<v Speaker 15>Yeah?

1017
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:53.920
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, do you think the kids are

1018
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 2>oblivious to that or not oblivious but immune to that.

1019
00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:59.880
<v Speaker 3>No, it's part of what we're witnessing.

1020
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:00.280
<v Speaker 7>I think.

1021
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no question I felt that all along at

1022
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. When when you know X is getting paid

1023
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:08.679
<v Speaker 2>a ton, what what's the offensive lineman gonna say? I'm

1024
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:11.280
<v Speaker 2>opening holes for the guy, look at me, at my chopliver. Yeah,

1025
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:13.960
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure that's happening in a lot of places.

1026
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Look at Florida State their quarterback who transferred in and

1027
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:21.719
<v Speaker 2>they're horrible. They're horrible, and and he's making tons of money,

1028
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.599
<v Speaker 2>and you're thinking, this is what I paid for?

1029
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:26.280
<v Speaker 5>Well some of these you know, some of these kids,

1030
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.920
<v Speaker 5>the who's the quarterback in Nebraska that he's an Arizona guy, right,

1031
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:33.199
<v Speaker 5>was it Riola or something? And he's making it a fortune,

1032
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:34.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, and the rest of his team is not

1033
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:35.599
<v Speaker 5>making anything.

1034
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then how are they doing? Not very good?

1035
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:38.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

1036
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, it's it's tough. It's tough.

1037
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:43.920
<v Speaker 2>In fact, did you see the commercial on Doctor Pepper,

1038
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:47.920
<v Speaker 2>those kind of clever commercials were the kid from Texas.

1039
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.320
<v Speaker 3>The yours is yours? I say his name?

1040
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, So he's the court you know, the main quarterback,

1041
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.039
<v Speaker 2>and they call in and says, we need a backup,

1042
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 2>we need a backup.

1043
00:47:57.719 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 3>Well I'm not a backup, you know.

1044
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.960
<v Speaker 2>And there about him back and I may not have

1045
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:05.320
<v Speaker 2>the famous name and man, yeah, the good looks or whatever,

1046
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.559
<v Speaker 2>but I'm no backup. And this guy's probably making a

1047
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:10.760
<v Speaker 2>ton of money from that commercial. Yeah, and I'm thinking,

1048
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:14.000
<v Speaker 2>here's here's an issue. These guys are making tons of

1049
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:17.719
<v Speaker 2>money and what about this teammates? Yeah, well that's again.

1050
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.199
<v Speaker 2>But the same can be said too in professional sports.

1051
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Steph Curry's making you know, sixty million a

1052
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.440
<v Speaker 2>year or whatever, and there's other guys that are probably

1053
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:27.719
<v Speaker 2>making a million. Sure, sure, sure, sure no, But guess

1054
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 2>what's on if you're if you're making a million and

1055
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:32.400
<v Speaker 2>you're worried about that, there's always a chance of not

1056
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:35.199
<v Speaker 2>making the million and being cut right. You know. See,

1057
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 2>there's a difference to me in terms of well, you know,

1058
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:40.840
<v Speaker 2>you're here you're good enough to make that million.

1059
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:44.719
<v Speaker 3>But at this level, at this level, it's a different dynamic. Yeah,

1060
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.800
<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure you had it yours your work.

1061
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you didn't where you know, TV personalities, you know

1062
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:56.000
<v Speaker 2>making this or someone else is making this. We tried

1063
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:59.440
<v Speaker 2>not to, you tried not to. No, nobody's that, but

1064
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 2>it it happens to you probably know that. Yeah, it

1065
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<v Speaker 2>happens in our pistol. Well, this guy's covering this, and

1066
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:05.159
<v Speaker 2>this guy doing this, and this is what he makes.

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00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:08.599
<v Speaker 2>It's all everyone seems unfair, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not. One of the good things about doing

1069
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:12.800
<v Speaker 3>sports was it was like, you know, we we would

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<v Speaker 3>just do it. We did it.

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00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 5>It was ours to do. But there's certainly some competent.

1072
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:18.880
<v Speaker 5>There used to be a pretty good competition in the newsroom.

1073
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<v Speaker 5>You know, in the morning they get together and they

1074
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.280
<v Speaker 5>talk about what are we going to do today? Who's

1075
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.719
<v Speaker 5>covering this? And you could just tell, you know, the

1076
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:27.840
<v Speaker 5>top priority stories would go to certain reporters. So that

1077
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.360
<v Speaker 5>was going on, but that was part of the business.

1078
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:33.039
<v Speaker 5>And experiences is a factor there too, and.

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<v Speaker 3>In some cases right right, and if you're good, they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to give them to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Right right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not good, they're going to say, Okay, here's

1083
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:41.320
<v Speaker 2>the here's the dog catching the man, or the men

1084
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:42.079
<v Speaker 2>catching the dog.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, I was thinking we were talking about the election

1086
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:48.159
<v Speaker 5>and stuff, just just quoting some of the stuff here.

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<v Speaker 5>They were talking about being college sports decision makers on

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00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.760
<v Speaker 5>at least three fronts. One of them is comprehensive congressional

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00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:00.320
<v Speaker 5>college sports legislation, the interpretation and enforcement of Title nine

1090
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<v Speaker 5>as it relates to athlete revenue sharing, and the debate

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<v Speaker 5>over college athletes as employees. So those are things that

1092
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:11.440
<v Speaker 5>Congress can be deciding and these university are gonna have

1093
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<v Speaker 5>to play by those rules.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a dumb question because I know you you

1095
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:16.360
<v Speaker 2>read it for a long time. Aren't you glad? Or

1096
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<v Speaker 2>are you glad that you're out of this business?

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<v Speaker 15>See?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you have any background in this?

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<v Speaker 5>It's hard knowing we're you know, we're doing basic nuts

1100
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:26.239
<v Speaker 5>and bolts of teams and games, and all of a

1101
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 5>sudden this becomes such a big story.

1102
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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 5>You really need to hire you know, a business sports

1104
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:34.679
<v Speaker 5>business these days. Sure, that's why there's these types of websites.

1105
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:35.519
<v Speaker 5>That's what that's all they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's cover this, you're you're right, You're right, you have

1107
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:40.760
<v Speaker 2>to be specialized in what they're doing. But I'm talking

1108
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 2>more about the personalities because, uh, you know, there were

1109
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot of we've covered cocky kids before. You know,

1110
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:51.440
<v Speaker 2>guys who who who know their stuff that does the

1111
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:53.440
<v Speaker 2>stink and blah blah blah, and you deal with that.

1112
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:56.480
<v Speaker 2>But now it's but there's stuff doesn't stink and we

1113
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:57.320
<v Speaker 2>got a lot of money.

1114
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

1115
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Then and then and then they're kind of hell with

1116
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:04.679
<v Speaker 2>the kid gloves because I know, I know some of

1117
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:07.599
<v Speaker 2>the callers don't feel this way, but uh, they're hell.

1118
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.880
<v Speaker 2>They're treated with kid gloves and they're kind of fair game.

1119
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Now I don't know if you would treat them as

1120
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 2>fair game, but they're they're making ten times what you

1121
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.559
<v Speaker 2>and I make. Not that that's a jealousy, but they're

1122
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:18.480
<v Speaker 2>professionals now.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Well, they're bringing the money to the school. That's

1124
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:27.800
<v Speaker 5>always been the argument, right, But like I said, there's

1125
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.320
<v Speaker 5>things happening today maybe in politics that could even affect

1126
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.920
<v Speaker 5>more of what's what we've seen in the last five years.

1127
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:39.719
<v Speaker 5>So I'm sure universities have a close eye on on

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<v Speaker 5>the election as well. Just for that, you know, among

1129
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:44.960
<v Speaker 5>other things. For that reason, athletic departments, you know, they're

1130
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<v Speaker 5>maybe not to go too far off subject, but I

1131
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:51.440
<v Speaker 5>mean the u of A has a pretty strong presence,

1132
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:54.800
<v Speaker 5>as do most universities in Washington, d C. So when

1133
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:58.400
<v Speaker 5>things like this pop up, I was around meetings where

1134
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<v Speaker 5>Robert Robbins at the time was and he would be,

1135
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:03.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, be right in the middle of Washington lobbying

1136
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.840
<v Speaker 5>and talking to legislators and being involved in those kind

1137
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:12.000
<v Speaker 5>of those kinds of stories. So yeah, kind of crosses

1138
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<v Speaker 5>over a little bit.

1139
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, no question, it's a strange world we live

1140
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:18.639
<v Speaker 2>in and it's not going to get any better anytime

1141
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 2>soon because no one really has the answer. Although those

1142
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:26.519
<v Speaker 2>questions that was a deliger yeah brought brought up, I'm

1143
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:27.519
<v Speaker 2>sure they're going to be pressing.

1144
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1145
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:31.320
<v Speaker 5>Plus, today we get the first college football football playoff

1146
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:36.000
<v Speaker 5>poll comes out, So it's another big story that's going

1147
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:37.559
<v Speaker 5>to be looming that we have not had a chance

1148
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.440
<v Speaker 5>to cover in the last ever. So you know, have

1149
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:43.079
<v Speaker 5>all these games coming up in December and January and

1150
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.280
<v Speaker 5>twelve team playoffs, so that's all going to be unveiled

1151
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:46.960
<v Speaker 5>later today too.

1152
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're going to take a break here in about

1153
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:53.960
<v Speaker 2>a minute or so and then talk to Michael Ebb

1154
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:56.960
<v Speaker 2>for seventeen I'm not too sure I'm gonna do breaking news.

1155
00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll just continue to talk. We'll talk maybe news

1156
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:01.119
<v Speaker 2>of the day or up the sounds, gonna go through

1157
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<v Speaker 2>some stuff at the top of the hour. I'm not

1158
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.000
<v Speaker 2>sure how I'm gonna make that segment my own when

1159
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:08.119
<v Speaker 2>when we come back on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I missed

1160
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:12.400
<v Speaker 2>those interns. I'll help you here, Okay, great, great? Do

1161
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.760
<v Speaker 2>you have your your your mac book there?

1162
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:16.119
<v Speaker 15>Yeah?

1163
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay cool. I'll have money in here, okay, okay,

1164
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.519
<v Speaker 2>let me see it. Let me let me text somebody

1165
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.519
<v Speaker 2>here just to se Yeah, get out of here. We're

1166
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:28.519
<v Speaker 2>pretty much done for this moment here in about a minute. Okay, Dave,

1167
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:30.519
<v Speaker 2>thanks for for doing this, Thanks for hanging out with me.

1168
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<v Speaker 2>And you're here and probably not the rest of the week. Right,

1169
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:36.639
<v Speaker 2>you're you're too busy. Whatever you want this week?

1170
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<v Speaker 3>Next week? Can you get to back tomorrow?

1171
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<v Speaker 2>May be back tomorrow, although we do have the interns

1172
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.400
<v Speaker 2>back to take control of this show.

1173
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<v Speaker 3>Let me take the break and come back. We'll see
