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Speaker 3: There we go, So I guess we'll get onto introducing
our guest. As I mentioned, our guest was previously on
the program coming up on eight years ago, Good Lord,
and we talked about a variety of different subjects. We've
got some really interesting new ones tonight now. Our guest
is June Lundgren, who's a paranormal consultant and investigator, psychic medium,
animal communicator, international author and with well over forty years
of experience in the paranormal field. It is much as me.
Speaker 1: Yes, well twenty years to go or.
Speaker 3: So, how are you tonight? June, welcome to the program.
Speaker 4: So good thanks for having me. It's a nice time day.
Speaker 3: Oh rub it in. It's overcast and rainy here.
Speaker 1: It's been sunny and hot here, and Juan's been here, yeah,
and June's been laying about on the beach.
Speaker 4: You stormy for that laying about in the time series
and the pool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right. Then there's some markets who say
it's not very good weather there where you are. No,
it's so joining air.
Speaker 3: Enjoy it while you can. You get, like, what maybe
a week's worth of sunshiny year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2: So, June, we wanted to talk to you today about
your last couple of books that you put out, which
is a subject that interests and fascinates.
Speaker 3: A lot of people, dealing with demons.
Speaker 2: Can you tell us a little.
Speaker 3: Bit about the books. What got you into that type
of research.
Speaker 4: Well, I've always been able to see demons in their
true forms, so I've always been able to see them,
communicate with them and get rid of them. So it's
since I was four and a half I've been seeing
them in their true form, which is not how most
humans see them. And that's probably because I have an
archangel for a soul. I died in back in eighty six,
and I went to the other side and Michael the
angels there. He says, this is who you truly are.
He said, you're aerial of the archangel. You were sent
down through the human lives until you learn to have
compassion for mankind. Because she's a demon slayer. She you know,
has a thing about humans because then in her experience
of a lot of humans will summon demons and then
they then they cry out for help. So it's like,
you know, that's the way it is. But people say
that when she comes forward to what I'm doing, a removal,
they see physical manifestations. They see wings coming out of
my shoulders, my eyes turn white, and my face and
my voice changes, and those are just some physical manifestations
of her. But I've been doing this since nineteen eighty six,
and when I went to the other side, Michael says,
this isn't what you're supposed to be doing. You're supposed
to be, you know, dealing with the demons. So I've
been doing that since eighty six. Demons. I can do
it from a distance because I don't have to be
there in person. All I need is a picture or
an email or something some communication of some form, and
I can see what's there, how long it's been there,
what it's been doing, and then I can get rid
of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you class as a demon?
Speaker 4: A demon is something that's never had never been human.
It can never take on human form or physical form.
It is like, you know, there's Lucifer, and then there's
the old demons, which are the most powerful, and then
there are the lesser demons, which i'd liken to hormonal teenagers.
And then there are the minions, the shadow people, the
heart bees they call imps, creepy cali.
Speaker 1: Dudes, yeah, yeah, which I call critis astrol critters. Yeah,
I called them critis. So do you actually remove demons
from people that have been possessed?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I've had several several cases.
Speaker 1: So what sort what sort of demons are like? Because
you've got several different types of demons that people.
Speaker 4: Right, they're usually either an old demon or the lesser demon.
But you know, it's people think that, you know, if
you're possessed, it's twenty four seven, But the only time
it's twenty four to seven is if you have for
the one demon in possession because the reason what started
the war between quote unquote Heaven and Hell was the
fact that we were all white like beings at one time.
And then Lucifer rose up against God and said, you know,
we don't want to have physical form, We don't want
to be subject to a shell, and this is not
what we want. And so that's where the war began.
And then Michael disarms Lucifer and Aerial disarmed his son,
and God said, you know, we're not gonna put up
with this anymore. You can't live among us. So he
opened a rift into a dark realm and that's where
he put them and sealed the rift. But you know,
at first they were happy with it because they didn't
want to have to deal with it, you know, taking
on physical form or anything like that. But over over this,
over the billions of years, they've become pissy, of course,
you know, and they want revenge, and that's why they're here.
They seek revenge from white light souls, you know, and
that's why the cause as much pains and suffering as possible.
M hm.
Speaker 1: So when they actually sorry about Mark, but when they
actually possessed somebody, you can tell what type of demon
it actually is whether it's a close, it's a purchase
or a pety.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's just quite simple. I just know.
And it's like I could usually tell when something's coming
long before it's coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Clausius, what how would you tell that it
was Clausius for a start?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know that term. I don't give them
a differential term. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, Clausus is a closed demon, one that hides deep
within the psyche, and it's very very difficult to get
it removed. Whereas a purpose is an open one. You
can tell the clauses because the eyes rolled back underneath silence.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just call on brain dwelling one.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well the worst one is the epita as far
as I'm concerned. Yeah, that's just very difficult. That really
sits in the psyche, and to try and remove that
is it takes a hell of a lot of effort,
a hell of a lot of energy, in a hell
of a lot of work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's with most if you had a deliverance minister
or a Catholic priest that was going to do their yes,
I can understand where it would take a long time.
With me, it doesn't because I see Well.
Speaker 1: You're like but you're like me, aren't you. I do
everything remotely. I've been fighting demons now foul or that,
sixty years something like that. Yeah, and the furthest I've done.
It's from Wales to New Zealand. Moved one in New
Zealand from and I was in my kitchen in Wales
at the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I from Australia, the Netherlands. It's just a moment.
They don't have distance.
Speaker 1: On the other side, I've done them all over the
world as well. But this is why I can understand
what you're talking about, because you remove and I'm remotely.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's uh, you just cast them out.
Speaker 3: Is that you do?
Speaker 1: I get rid of them. You cannot destroy a demon.
Nobody can destroy a demon, because yes you can, but no,
you can. You cannot destroy a dmon. You can remove
a demon, you can get rid of a demon, but
you can't destroy the demon.
Speaker 4: Not if you're just a human being. No. That's when
when I do do the killing of the demons, it's
in a different whole, different plane of existence, and Aero
comes forward and does it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not me. I completely change. You've seen it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what happens. You just you just kill it.
There's no other way around it. You can't. I know.
It's probably about five or six years ago, and God said,
you know what, Yeah, Lucifer's right, I'm too I'm too
lenient on the demons, he says. He said, from then on,
he says, I want them to be killed. So we
started out about five years ago and it's been we've
been going ever since. And there it kind of yeah, yeah,
it's been one thing the other. It's I had a
big battle and eighteen eighteen eighteen against Lucifer's son August eighteen,
twenty eighteen, when Lucifer's Lucifer's son had been tracking Aeriel
and he's the one who was basically calling her out
and she ended up killing him. Lucifer came to her
prior to the battle and said, listen, I didn't sanction this.
This is not something that I want. He said, he's
on his own. Whatever happens is on his head. And
then he just Lucifer just walked away, and I'm like, okay,
you know, it's on his own head. Nobody else. Not
as bad as most people think he is. But there
is that respect between the archangels, the Legion of Light,
God Jesus, and and Lucifer. There is that respect and
they stick with that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: You know it happens where I had a lady that
contacted me. She had eleven demons. They contacted me and
said she was possessed, and I'm like, right, send me
a picture. Well, no, she sent me the picture. I
knew that there was someone there, and I knew how
many were there, and God said, I want you to
take you know, Aaron who's a friend of mine, who's
ordained minister, So I want you to take him with
you because he fears the dark ones and when he
cannot fear the dark ones and serve me. So he
went with me, and then one of the other girls
of the Girl that made up my Bis Girl's paranormal team.
I told him, I said, you need to prepare because
this is like nothing you've ever seen before, nothing you've
ever experienced. And it took me took me three hours
to remove in of them. On the eleventh one. It
was hiding out from Lucifer. I can look into their
mind and find out why they're there and what they're
hiding from and it was hiding from a Lucifer because
Lucifer had given it a job and it just blew
him off, didn't do it, and so so he's I said, fine,
I said, do you want to go home? I said,
you can return to the light. If your repentance, you
can return to the light. And I said, Jesus, come forth.
And my friends were standing in front of me, and
they part as this huge white hand comes out towards
the woman. And then the demon said no, I can
never go home, and he like hunkered back inside of her,
and I said, so be it. So Jesus removed his hand,
and then I said, so be it. Lucifer come forth,
and Lucifer appeared at the end of the hallway and
came georgeous. And my friends are like kind of my
friend is or they mins her, he said desperus forul
a second, he said, I kind of freaked out, he said,
and then I remembered who and what you are, and
I was okay. And what they saw was a black
figure in a fedora double breast's suits fats with no
features except the gold eyes. Come down the hallway and
Lucifer said, you know, come out of there, you're coming
with me and he said, no, I'm not going anywhere.
So Lucifer turned and looked at me and said, I
know you don't want me to harm the woman, so
I will be back for it tonight. And he turned
around and disapeared down the hall.
Speaker 1: And where was this?
Speaker 4: Where was sorry?
Speaker 1: Whereabouts?
Speaker 4: Was this that was locally in for? It?
Speaker 3: Was?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, And so I told the woman, I said,
don't worry about it. He'll be back. Lucifer will be
back tonight for it. We all went home and we
all woke up at three am, and I heard Lucifer
say it's done, and we and we went back to
everybody went back to sleep. And then the next morning
I called her and she says, oh my gosh, says,
I haven't felt like this in over twenty years. He said,
I feel absolutely empty. And I said, I said, please
go get counseling. I said, you have PTSD, having these
things within you, That's that's one of the.
Speaker 1: Most important things, isn't it. The counseling at the end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So she the last thing I knew she was
in counseling and doing well.
Speaker 1: So what do you think, What do you think of sorry.
What do you think of elopmentals?
Speaker 4: I like elementals. Most of them are pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got some pretty good ones in Europe. You
know the one at lap Castle from Style right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, every now and then you get a nasty one,
but for the most part, I don't know. They don't
bother me in the lease.
Speaker 1: Well, the one at lake Castle is a bit negative.
He's a bit of a nasty It's about the size
of a sep and he's got a human head apparently
instincts the rotten flesh lay castles in Ireland. It's a
very famous I think it must be one of the
most famous elementals we got in Europe is this one.
And he only he only comes when he's provoked, And
of course you get the tourists over there trying to
provoke it so that.
Speaker 3: It will appear, you know, for the stupid ghost Hunters,
because you know the ship. They've had a few shows
going there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Ghost Adventures went there, I remember, right.
Speaker 3: Ghost Adventures, but the Ghost Hunters TV show were the
first host to go there.
Speaker 1: I know, most haunted went there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went. I was on the Ghost Adventures show
and removed the demon there and I told him, I said,
the demon wanted me to give Zach Bagan's a message
and I said, that's gonna read. And what I'm here,
Oh my message, I said, I said you, here's the
message from the demon. The demon was standing and he
wanted to see what I saw. So I told him,
I said, you don't want to see what I see.
And he made a big stink about it. So I
told him, I said, oh, my hand, and see what
you see. And he just freaked out. And I told him,
I said, it's not for everyone. I said, I see
them in their truth form. Said that, yeah, that'll not
you'll not be happy about yeah, and he is. The
demon told him quit provoking, but provoking and quit disrespecting,
or you will pay the price. And I took gave
him the message and everything, and he didn't do it.
So when he bought that place called the Demon House,
that same old demon that gave him the message took
his sight. I told him, I said, you better pay
attention and you better do what he says, because they
don't come down here to give you a message for nothing. No,
you better do it.
Speaker 3: Well, It's true a couple of things there when you
were on the Ghost Adventures show. How long ago was that?
I've watched most of the episodes, and for some reason,
that one's not coming to mind.
Speaker 4: It's a number nine. I think it's I think it's
a series nineteen. It was Great Guard of the Pacific. Okay,
it was a four part special. I was at the
Nordblad Hotel where I had removed demons earlier that year.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I'll have to go back and look
at that again. Do you have enough to share? No, well,
shame on you. To the back of the line. Then,
June when you just to touch on some things that
you talked about earlier with the rebellious angels being sent
to the dark Abyss whatever it was and sealed in Yah.
So if they're sealed into that dimension, how do they
get up here? Does cause trouble?
Speaker 4: Simple? Simple? They create dark portals. They opened the door
way into our world. It's not like they can't open
a doorway into the light, but they can into our
world because stop them. Think about how many paranormal groups
do you know that are out there that do not
protect and do not close the portals that they create
in their investigation or their scrying or they're reading tarrows
everything like that opens a portal and if you don't
close it, anything and everything can come through. It's like
leaving your house door open. Yeah, come on down.
Speaker 3: I definitely agree with that with especially people use oji
boards whatever. They don't know how to close them properly.
Speaker 4: But exactly.
Speaker 3: But you also said that one of the reasons they
rebelled was because they didn't want to come into human form.
So now, why all of a sudden would they choose
to inhabit and possess human bodies.
Speaker 4: See, that's the thing. It's not like they're being reborn
and stuck in the shell for you know, ninety eighty
years whatever. It's different because they can come and go
and they do in a human body. You know. It's
they do that to just create more problems for the individual,
more pain, more sensual. Yeah, and it's about that's why.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It's it's kind of interesting where people will say, well,
you know, this person is, this person is possessed, this
person is, yes, and it's like it's not it it's
really there's not as many true possessions as one would be. Yeah,
it's it's a rarety that they're true possession. This woman
that had it for twenty years had true possession. But
there are others who just have attachments, you know, or
are just influencing. It's all about what they choose to
do and and being stmons traveling pacts, so you know,
they're not loaners like the shadow people are. Shadow people
are loners, you know. But the thing is, whenever someone
connects with me, the activity will usually ramp up because
they know that they know who I am, and they
know what I am, and they don't want to be
anywhere near Ariel because he they said, they know that
she will absolutely kill her ass. That'll be that.
Speaker 3: So would the the attachments be considered demonic oppression rather
than possession?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it'd be more. It'd be more in that classification.
Speaker 3: Okay. And you also said that they have an opportunity
if they repent, they can go back.
Speaker 4: They can. Yeah, that's It's not often that that is
offered to them, of course, but it can be. And
that's why Azue is in the dark realm. He is
there because he went to God and said, when they
when God sealed them in there, and he went to
God and said, what if they want to repent? What
if they want to come home? He says, how you know?
How will we know? He says, I would like to
be able to be there in the dark realm and
take a handful of other archangels with me so that
if someone wants to come back to the light, they can't.
And I can count on one hand the amount of
demons that have gone back, but there are also people.
There are also demons like I call him Herb, I
won't say his real name, and he's He came to
me and says, listen, I want you to go. He's
an old demon. I want you to go to Lucifer
and ask if he would allow me to be the
bridge between you know, the human world and the darkness,
because I would really like to be able to help.
And so I went to Lucifer and I said, well,
this is what he wants to do. And Lucifer is like,
you know, I have to talk among the old the
other old ones and find out if they approved. So
in the end they approved. And so when you see him,
you see her. He's more trades of like soft grays
than he is dark. And he'll come if something's happening
or he feels there's something I should know about that
there's something going on. Then he will, you know, he'll
get a hold of me and he'll tell me what's
going on or what needs to be done, you know,
because there are always rugue demons. Rugue demons are just
you know, you're going to have them no matter what.
Lucifer cannot keep control of all of them, and there
are those who turn against you know, what he does
and feels that he himself is too lenient.
Speaker 3: That brings up a question for me because I'm trying
to understand, Uh, Lucifer's role. Is Lucifer the same as Satan?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that Lucifer is his white light name. Satan is
his dark name. So how to they have two names,
the one of light and one of dark. I always
call him Lucifer, which means the shining one, out of
respect for him. The dark name is more derogatory, so
I have a habit of not using it.
Speaker 3: So you know, there's always the picture of Lucifer, Satan
whatever names that people call him as being the ultimate
evil trying to destroy mankind and whatnot. And from what
you're talking about, it sounds like he's like a manager
and you can talk.
Speaker 4: He's like the head of the mafia, you know, kind
of liken it to that the ahead of the mafia,
and everybody and everybody else's is his people, you know,
and what he says goes. He has three old demons
that are first, second, and third in command, and they
oversee like the old the other old demons, and they
oversee the younger demons and the minions. Each one has
a job to do and it's and he he, he
is like above all of these, you know, he controls
all of that. But like I said, there are rogue demons,
you know, that happened occasionally, and people don't understand that
demons evolve, just like angels of all and demon. A
demon can push its evolution, it can try to force
the evolution. And when it does, it doesn't act like
other demons. It goes crazy. If they were a human,
I'd say they went absolutely psycho because they don't act,
they don't travel in packs, they don't have creepy callies
with them, and they do things that are unpredictable. And
if Lucifer finds one of them, he kills them because
to him, they are a liability to him and he
won't have that at all or if he or if
he finds a rogue or something like that it's getting
out of hand. You know, he'll come to me and say,
you know, I have this one, you know, because it
saves him face if Ariel kills it, rather than him
killing it. So he will say that, you know, I've
got this one needs to be dealt with, and as
a favor to him, she will do it. But then
he owes her. So it's it's a it's a you know,
a mutual respecting.
Speaker 3: Very interesting one of the things. And YouTube both can
tell me about your thoughts on this, since I've never
actually really encountered any demonic entities in my twenty years
of paranormal research.
Speaker 1: Negative energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's where I want to go with negative energy,
because it seems to me that these types of entities
that attach themselves to people and people who have personal
issues alcoholics or people who for whatever reason is spiritually
and mentally deficient, and that allows these things to come in.
But you know, I always like in it more like
a parasite. It's because these things consist of negative energy.
They feed on negative energy, and so they create as
much chaos in a person or multiple people in people's
lives in order to create that negative energy of fear, hate,
whatever that that just they feed on it, and the
more they feed, the stronger they get. So I liken
them too, like a spiritual mosquito.
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of. They're a pain in my that's quite.
Speaker 1: That is quite a good aology of them, actually, yeah
mhm parasitic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there can be a pain in the butt, especially
the thank your best and suckers because they're tricks. Yeah.
But yeah, whenever you remove a demon, you have to
remove the negative energy that is that has been created
by them as well. In the physics, it's not it's not.
Speaker 1: An aduct but you've also got to put the positive
energy back into the place.
Speaker 4: Yes that yeah, that's and that's what we do when
we do the cleansing of the we removed that We
remove the energy and put it in its place, the
white light energy. Know that it can purify and clear
everything away. But people have a tendency to think that,
you know, if a demon is attached to one individual,
that that's the only person they affect. But that's not accurate.
They affect everyone within that person's inner circle. That's how
they work. Why not, you know, it's like if they
have that imo, and if people don't realize it, why
are you suddenly having fights with your boyfriend or your
husband or why you know, why is your animal having
health issues? Because you know, they'll take your health down,
you know, your your financial stuff will go down in
the toilet. Their whole life goes in the toilet. And
that's just that's just how they work. And people just think, oh,
you know, I'm I'm jinked or I'm cursed or whatever.
And I'm like, yeah, whatever, No, that's not what that's
not what's going on. I wish I could say that.
I wish I could say, yeah, that's that's the whole problem.
But that's not.
Speaker 1: Okay, John, let's get off the dark stuff.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Have you seen any ghosts lately?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, all the time, you've done some ghost Yeah.
It's like, you know, somebody will call me up and say, oh,
you know, or something emails saying that you know, there's
there's something negative here, and I'm like, no, you know,
it's not. It's not negative. It's like I have a
lot of people you know, email me and say, you know,
these things are going on, this has been happening. Yeah,
And you just you know, and then you get a picture. Yeah,
you get a picture of a location. It's like, oh,
it's your cousin or your mom or your dad or whatever.
And then you give them the message that that they're
there to you to deliver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is it over here. You know, it's more
ghosts and demons in America's more demons and ghosts. Yeah,
that's what it comes on seats. Isn't it demon it's not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's and that's what they want, you know, they
want everything. Everything is neat, everything is everything's a demon?
Everything negative. It's not always I tell them, you know,
it's probably more likely to be your grandmar or grandpa,
is true.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 4: And like when I go to the graveyards, it's always
human spirits, you know.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the dead. Color shoe darling, can they
that's what they say. The dead cann't hurt you live
in that hurtshoe. But so I wouldn't wander around over
here in a graveyard on my own at night no more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't bother.
Speaker 1: But it's not it's not the dead that I'm worried about.
Speaker 4: It's more than living, yes, living, Yeah, my Grandma said
that she's a medium show because you know, dead people,
you have to worry about the living like that. I know.
Speaker 1: And what about the pets stuff? How are you getting
on with that now?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I have a lot of people. In fact, I've
got a reading tomorrow about two pats ones. That's one
that crossed and one that's back again.
Speaker 1: I lost my my little dog last week.
Speaker 4: That's always really really hard. I love she was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was twenty years old.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's good for twenty years, that's good. My Springer
was fifteen and three months. But that was from their
incarnation with me, and she came back two years ago
and I have her back again. So I just looked
forward to me, you know, I'm coming back look for me,
and I do, and I find this is it. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm just a man of dogs that I've had over
the years, and I recognized previous dogs I've had them
passed over in the new dogs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have two and they're the incarnation. Yeah, they're
the reincarnation of my Doblemans who were sisters. And they
answered the same name and everything else, the same mannerisms everything,
because they came back like right away. My springer waited
a little while before she came back, and but she
she answers to the same. I mean, I know it's her.
You can see your energy. I can see her and
within the physical body of the new one.
Speaker 1: This is it, isn't it. It's sad when you lose them,
especially after twenty years.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: She was blind and she was deaf, but she used
to still beat the other dogs to the to the
utility room to get her food.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she done it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: And she.
Speaker 1: Was massive. She'd be down about my garden. She'll find
her way to the door.
Speaker 4: Yeah, her nose didn't failure though. Her nose was still working.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly was.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was one like that too. We had a
what they call a plumber spaniel and he was he
got it here he could see. But you tossed something,
you tossed some piece of food, and he's got it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll do.
Speaker 4: Most people that come to me for animals, it's usually
because there are behavioral issues, but the animal and so
I can actually connect like I'm talking to you with
the animal. At first, they seem a little startled, but
once they realize that they can understand you. And you
can understand them. Then we have our conversations about what's
going on and what the problem is.
Speaker 1: And you're a whisper of animals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I talked to them about it and it takes
care of it there and they're fine after that.
Speaker 1: Are you already good on humans? Because I need a
whisper of the monk?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, don't get me started in those ones.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm encourageable.
Speaker 4: It's quite easy being an archangel. When she comes forward,
When I bring her forward, I can see into the
individual's mind. I can't actually you know, help them get
rid of problems issues that are psycho you know, psychologically
keeping them held back, keeping them from doing the work,
that sort of thing. Because I can, I can actually
have a conversation with their subconscious And all.
Speaker 3: This hit you as early as you can. Remember when
I was.
Speaker 4: Four and a half, how I saw demons change, or
that I saw them as most humans do, you know,
a black mass, you know, a dark figure. But after that,
I saw them as they truly are, and I'm going
ash yeah, And that was just kind of at first
I was scared of. Michael said, don't worry about it,
so they you can see them but I won't let
them see you because I want you to watch them.
I want you to learn how they work, you know,
all that stuff, because you'll need it when you get older.
So you're you know, your four and a half, You're like, oh, okay,
a game, do it. Oh I've been doing it since then,
and I'm going to sixty seven, So okay, Oh dear,
I'm almost sixty seven in November, will be seven.
Speaker 1: Younger than me. Everybody's younger than me. I just I said,
I thought you said seventy seven, and I thought I
was that brilliant.
Speaker 4: Someone's older than me seventy nine. He's going to be
eighty in August.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I've got home ridding clear as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah he's in the hot now though.
Speaker 1: So what are your books called? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Mark?
Speaker 3: Did you go on?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 4: Mark? I have the two latest ones are one of
them called Demons Here. It's the first in a three
part series of books, and it talks about how the
negative entities are affecting the current world. And there's a
couple of chapters. Yeah, one is on you know where
to find help, how to help yourself and where to
find help, and the other one's on protection you know
the myths behind, but we'll really protect versus what won't.
And the other one I just released, it's called Dark Encounters.
It's fifteen of my worst encounters with from demonic stuff.
And then the new one I have is called The
Angel Primers, coming out next month. Because there are over
three hundred thousand warrior angels reborn and incarnated into physical
right now, and so a lot of them don't know
who or what they are, and they don't know what
they can do, what their abilities are, how to utilize
their abilities, and everything in the book is I teach
everything from how to create white light swords, to how
to create infinity orbs and how to merge with your
you know, angelic soul, that type of things. So it's
basically a primer. That's so it's called the Angel Primer's
good to get a.
Speaker 1: Look at them.
Speaker 3: And where can people find your books?
Speaker 4: They can find them on Amazon dot com there or
they can find they can get a link on my website.
Either one is where they can find them.
Speaker 3: Fantastic.
Speaker 1: What's your website?
Speaker 4: Mystic connections dot org.
Speaker 1: Okay, hope everyone's taking that down on a piece of paper.
Speaker 4: Mystic Connections Org. And it will get you there. It
talks about you know, my demon Seer site is part
of it is feeds into the three. It's three of
them in ones, my Ghasts and Girls, Paranormal Investigation site,
in the demon Seer and then the mystic connections.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm okame ook.
Speaker 3: Well, June, thank you very much for coming on the
program again. It's lovely talking with you again. And of
course the subject is always one of that fascinates me,
especially since you two obviously have way more experience than
I do, which is like nil. But I've dealt with
a pissed off ghost before, but nothing to mon.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Those are funny, yeah, all right, we get the
occasional one who ghost the shows himself as a seven
foot tall shadow person when they're actually a short, fat,
vaulting guy who never got any respects from.
Speaker 3: By sounds about right, delusions of grandeur exactly. Well, thanks June,
and thank you everyone for listening to another edition of
the Paranormal UK Radio show, The Flag Chip Show here
on the Paranormal UK Radio Network and Irene. Where can
people find us?
Speaker 1: Everywhere? People?
Speaker 4: Everyone?
Speaker 3: Well, thanks so again everyone, you have a great week
and as I always say, be good humans, and we
will talk to you all soon.