WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.759 You know for most of it. Yeah, I don't. 2 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:04.280 In the hell is the last time the Day actually 3 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:05.519 aired a video, right? 4 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:07.599 I don't know which one of you can't? Are you 5 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:09.800 having trouble hearing the callers, be Pete, because I don't 6 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:11.400 know which one of you can't hear the other. But 7 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:15.800 both of you just talked over each other like completely, No. 8 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:17.160 I can hear them. 9 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:20.280 When I hear a break and go to say something, 10 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:21.079 there's a lag. 11 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:24.359 And there's always been a lag on this. 12 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:27.879 Okay, I'm sorry. Well, it's just it's funny because like 13 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:29.640 I hear the two of you in real time, and 14 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:31.719 I guess you guys are hearing a lag. I'm sorry, 15 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:34.560 all right, anyway, you know what, I'm gonna put you 16 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:36.840 on hold, man and get to the next caller, but 17 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:40.119 load up with something else and whatever else you had 18 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:42.359 on your mind. I got that list here if you 19 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:44.000 want to talk about it when I come back to you, 20 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:48.520 because you basically said to me, you know, uh, let's see, 21 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:50.799 let's just see what you said here. You said take 22 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:52.799 your time, and that's the one I responded to. But 23 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:55.200 you basically what was the statement? Now I got to 24 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:59.520 see it. Geez, what did you actually say, you said, like, 25 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:04.120 pick your five songs. You know, let's see, out of curiosity, 26 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:07.079 what's your top five rock songs? Right? And then I said, 27 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:10.040 please narrow down rock a bit, because it's always hard 28 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:12.280 to make a short list. See, I already had a 29 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:15.719 problem as soon as you're saying five top songs, and 30 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:18.079 then and then I wind up saying to you, I 31 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:23.040 cannot do it with less than seven and feel okay 32 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:27.000 about it. Sorry, man, that's what I said. And then 33 00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:31.439 I gave you my list. Okay, so I don't know. Maybe, well, 34 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:33.400 do you want to do it right now or do 35 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:35.799 you want to hold off and and go over it? 36 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:38.480 Well, yeah, hold off, we'll revisit it. 37 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:41.560 Okay, let's do that, and we'll give everybody a chance. 38 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:43.400 But let me make sure I actually put seven here, 39 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:46.840 and I didn't miscount because I struggled with this. Yeah, 40 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:49.920 I put seven songs up there. I had to. I 41 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.239 could not do it otherwise. I'm sorry I could not 42 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:57.319 follow your rules. So hang on, Chris, and we will 43 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:59.959 go over to the guy who I often swap names 44 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:05.359 with you for, which is Danny in California. Looks like Danny, 45 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:09.159 how are you doing good? Evening? So what's on your mind? This? 46 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:12.840 Are you a beautiful day here in California? Yeah? What's 47 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:19.199 on my mind? Well, I just a quick you were 48 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:22.439 talking about Hany Harrison. I don't know if I've stated 49 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:25.599 here before in the show, but I didn't realize my 50 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:29.479 daughter was taking horseback riding lessons and it was their 51 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:33.319 their little property out just outside of the town where 52 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:36.360 I live on his wife Trina yea, And I realized 53 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:40.800 later I was told he was, Uh, it was Hank Harrison, 54 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:48.000 Courtney Love's father. Yeah. I saw that the soap was 55 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:51.719 the cold soaked in blood or soaked and bleached the documentary. 56 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:57.919 I've heard a couple of that Opperman's uh interviews with 57 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:00.240 with Hank Harrison. I didn't realize you have intere viewed 58 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:02.879 him that he's quite quite an interesting fellow. 59 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:04.759 He was he died and. 60 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:12.319 Yeah, sadly and then uh, Dave Roll and my son 61 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:15.120 was going to college in southern California. He was a 62 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:18.080 butcher at Whole Foods. He would come in occasionally and 63 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:20.840 buy up and my son said he was he was 64 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:24.280 a really nice fellow to Dilla, especially for a celebrity. 65 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:24.680 He was. 66 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:26.960 He was down to earth and it was really good. 67 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.599 But what I wanted to talk to is I was 68 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:32.319 trying to figure out a way to maybe get to 69 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:35.520 Lancer this year, and it's just not going to work out. 70 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:39.280 But I will send you something now hopefully if you 71 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.199 if you host it again, I'll try to make it 72 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:45.080 out there and attend the conference. But I do have 73 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:48.919 a question about lanswer. Is there a way of buying 74 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:53.000 like a video of the of the conference. 75 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:57.759 Yeah, if you sign up, you know at Assassination Conference 76 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:01.240 dot com. Uh, use the co TOCELLI ten. You get 77 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:03.639 ten percent off and you'll be able to watch all 78 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:07.360 of it, you know, from home. Uh and if you 79 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:10.439 use the right browser. Don't use Firefox because that gives 80 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.319 me trouble uh doing it. But if you use like 81 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:17.360 Chrome or whatever, there's you know, when the videos are posted, 82 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:21.199 not right away you can watch it live, but afterwards 83 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:24.439 and they post the videos, you can download them with 84 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:28.639 your Chrome browser or I think Apple all the browsers 85 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.720 do it. But either way, yeah, you can. You can 86 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:35.120 download and keep the videos absolutely, but you got to 87 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:36.040 buy them through that so. 88 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:39.680 Once you can download them up because I doubt I'm 89 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:41.279 gonna be there all weekend. 90 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:44.439 Yeah, no problem. But what you do is when you 91 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:46.439 when you buy your ticket, you can buy it so 92 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:48.959 that you get the video also like you can buy 93 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:51.800 just to go there physically, or you can buy both. 94 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.360 And just like I said, you know, use use my 95 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:58.240 code please, because one it shows that you know, I 96 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:00.759 actually got people that I brought to the conference, and 97 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:04.560 two it gives you ten percent off. At least it's 98 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:08.639 something you know, so might as well get the discount 99 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.279 that I also at least you know, can show Hey, 100 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.360 some of my people actually showed up. Because weird thing, 101 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:17.680 like three years we've done this and one of those 102 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:21.360 times I didn't want to say it, but somehow, even 103 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:23.279 though I know some of you guys signed up for it, 104 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:28.680 nobody used my code. Like I had zero zero people 105 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:30.560 used and I saw it on the back end, so 106 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:34.319 it's not like I was being lied lied to. And 107 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:36.560 I knew people had signed up and been there because 108 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:40.959 of me, and yet they didn't use the code. So 109 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:45.920 weird thing. Maybe I did a bad job of telling 110 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:49.560 people about it, but that's why I'm repeating it. So yeah, 111 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:51.439 do that, and then you can keep the videos. You 112 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:53.279 download them, and then you got you know, an MP 113 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:55.879 four or whatever video file. I forget. I think it's 114 00:05:55.879 --> 00:06:00.240 an MP four that you can like keep, you know. 115 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:04.399 So they go okay, you know, and say some people 116 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:07.399 used to buy DVDs, which I don't know if they 117 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:09.720 even offer those anymore. You could get a DVD set 118 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:10.720 or a thumb drive. 119 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:18.279 But now I'm just DOWNLD school. I'd want them to 120 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:20.680 send me my VHS tape. 121 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:24.279 Well, I don't know if they have the capacity for 122 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:25.519 VHS anymore. 123 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:29.519 I don't have a VHS. I don't even have a 124 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:32.680 CD player anymore. I'm just I'm just kind of that's 125 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:34.240 what I'm kind of used to. 126 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:36.639 Oh, I got you look behind me on my shelf. 127 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:40.639 I've got you know, well what I hanging on my wall. 128 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.680 I have a DVD of my first presentation, which was 129 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:47.480 a disaster in twenty seventeen. It was terrible. Don't buy it, 130 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:50.240 even if they said they were selling it for like 131 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:53.800 ten bucks. Do not buy it. It's a waste. But 132 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:57.439 it was my first ever presentation because it got screwed up, 133 00:06:57.639 --> 00:06:59.319 like right as I was getting ready to do it. 134 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.680 There was a big controversy and there was like actually 135 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:08.639 an issue like Carmine almost came to blows with people 136 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:12.600 that had creeped in from the Judy Baker conference, and 137 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:16.319 part of my presentation was going to be like destroying Judy, 138 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:21.199 like you know. For for my presentation was it was 139 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:24.040 half of my presentation. And Deborah Conway, who was in 140 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:27.839 charge of the conference, you know, you see her in person, 141 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:30.319 she's like, you know, when she was running the conference, 142 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:32.439 she would be like completely dressed up like she was 143 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:36.680 going to a formal event and all that, you know, 144 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:39.519 and she was like a kind of a conventional lady 145 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.199 from Texas, let's say. So she was very much like 146 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.120 all shaken up and upset and like, oh you you can't, 147 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.319 you can't do that half of your your presentation. I 148 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:52.680 just I just you know, she was like totally petrified 149 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:57.720 of what would happen next. So I kind of went, okay, Deborah, 150 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:00.399 you know, I'll do what you ask, but you know, 151 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:03.600 I've only got half a presentation. And then I went 152 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:08.240 to do it, and it involved audience participation, and the 153 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:10.839 point of it was we need to reach out and 154 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:15.759 do more outreach with young people regarding the assassination, get 155 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:19.160 them familiar with it and the real you know, work 156 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:22.480 and the real efforts to reveal the history so that 157 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:24.600 they're not just stuck with you know, whatever the health 158 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.240 shows up on YouTube. And in twenty seventeen, I was 159 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.240 saying this, and we need to come up with better 160 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.519 forms of outreach. And my argument was that we should, 161 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:39.759 you know, have an app and like really interact, like 162 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:44.480 our best people should interact with young people through apps 163 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:48.320 or even video games or you know, the stuff that 164 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:52.440 they are participating in. Go to them where they are, 165 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:56.720 and it just so happens. There was a couple of 166 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:58.720 guys that did the you know, we go out to 167 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:02.480 the schools and you know, present at high schools to kids, 168 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:06.600 and we're already doing that work, and my you know, 169 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:09.080 and they started like pretty much kind of you know, 170 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:12.120 trashing me almost while I was doing the presentation right away, 171 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:16.159 like oh well, we're already doing that, you know, and 172 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:20.080 it's like no, no, no, beyond yeah, beyond go to 173 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:23.840 the high school. You're not going to light up a 174 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:26.600 kid and get them enthusiastic by showing up at their 175 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:29.399 high school. You're just not. You know, it can be 176 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:32.320 part of this, but we got to go past that. 177 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:35.600 My idea was we need to go and think ahead 178 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.240 of the curve, you know, start giving them the stuff 179 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.200 in the technological packages along the lines of you know 180 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:45.399 what I mean, Like back then, I would have said Vine, 181 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:50.360 because like TikTok wasn't even a big thing yet. But 182 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:53.279 I was saying, well, through Vine, the short video clip 183 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:55.600 which is what vine. I don't know if people remember Vine, 184 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:59.039 but it was sort of like TikTok. Yeah, it was 185 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:02.440 sort of like TikTok, but without the popularity and without 186 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:05.080 you know, the technology being better, So it was like 187 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:07.759 a low quality TikTok. And I was trying to tell 188 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:10.960 the stuff like, this is what we need to do 189 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:14.240 our outreach in We need to design it and get 190 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:16.679 them involved with Hey, look there's a history to be 191 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:21.200 uncovered here and it's important and here's why. And we 192 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:24.159 need to reach out to them again on the platforms 193 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:29.240 and through the mechanisms and the technology that they are using, 194 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:33.000 not the stuff that we think, you know. And this 195 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:35.600 was my kind of like, let's bridge the gap between 196 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.080 the baby boomers and you know, this next generation. I'm 197 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:42.279 a generation excerpt, let's build the bridge right here, I'm 198 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:45.559 telling you how. And they really just were like, oh, 199 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:47.399 you know, this is just a waste of time and 200 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:50.200 who cares? And I didn't bring and I didn't bring 201 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:52.679 any slides, and I was still on my cane and 202 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:55.399 I literally like paced back and forth in front of 203 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:57.559 the stage instead of even going up on the stage 204 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:02.120 to try and engage with the audience. And they trashed me, 205 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:05.080 and they knocked out half of my presentation, you know, 206 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:07.879 out of my hands by Deborah begging me not to 207 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:10.120 do it before I went on. So it's a disaster. 208 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:12.200 It sucks, I'll tell. 209 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:14.759 You that right now. My first presentation was garbage, and 210 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:18.200 it was garbage because of these things, and it's my fault. 211 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:21.759 I should have been better prepared with more material than 212 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:25.559 I needed, and I could have made better points. But 213 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:28.360 also I had these again school teachers who were angry, 214 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:30.720 like as if I was, you know, because everything's a 215 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:34.559 freaking personal issue and everything's egos, and it's like, it's 216 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:36.840 not about your ego and your presentation. I'm telling you 217 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:40.440 that as a community, we need to reach out to 218 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:46.039 young people in the venues that they are already participating it, 219 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:48.960 not going to their school because that's nice and all, 220 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.080 and that'll get you a certain crowd. But if people 221 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.519 showed up in my school for you know, for something 222 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:57.519 that was supposed to be some old, you know, political 223 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:00.840 situation that I don't really care about. It's yet again 224 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:04.840 attached to high school, which not every teenager is totally 225 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:09.279 enthusiastic about. You know. So I'm sorry, I mean, and 226 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:11.000 you know what, you can argue with my point all 227 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:14.240 you want, but you didn't have to literally like trash 228 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:16.360 me and pretty much say that this was pointless what 229 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:18.639 I was talking about while I'm on stage, or while 230 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:21.320 I'm not even on stage, while I'm trying to be 231 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:24.519 at the front of the class presenting. You know, I'm 232 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:26.759 telling you, it was almost like these school teachers needed 233 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:29.159 to learn to corum that they try and teach their 234 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:33.120 students about not screwing over the guy giving a lecture, 235 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:35.799 you know, for the thirty minutes that I was going 236 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:38.799 to give. You know, but what are you going to do? 237 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.279 Yeah, isn't it just common sense to be polite, to 238 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:47.039 let you finish and then maybe afterwards if they wanted 239 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:48.519 to be critical. 240 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:53.600 I don't understand that people, and I tried for years 241 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:55.399 not to say anything about it, but it was really 242 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:58.320 to me, it was like demoralizing because it's like, Dude, 243 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.480 I went to this trouble there and you know, and 244 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:04.480 I'm trying to do something different for God's sake. I mean, 245 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:07.000 you can have another guy come in and talk about, 246 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.799 you know, exactly what angle he thinks the bullet came 247 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:12.480 from in Dealey Plaza and there's a thousand of those. 248 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:16.360 I'm talking about something that is different what we should 249 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:18.799 do going forward. I thought it would be valuable at 250 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:21.799 least for that reason. But and like I said, I 251 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:23.960 helped my tongue for years about it, but it is 252 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:26.919 really aggravating. And eight years later, I'm still aggravated by 253 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.360 it because, you know, it was sort of like I 254 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:32.759 got sabotaged by my own people while I'm dealing with 255 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:36.720 these people that are sneaking in from another conference, you know, 256 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:39.720 like literally like spying on and trying to undermine. I mean, 257 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:46.120 it's really ridiculously grown. People behaving like this is just outrageous, 258 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:52.000 especially backing up a grifting, you know, a fraud like 259 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:55.039 Judy Baker, for Christ's sake, they were showing up and 260 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:57.279 like sneaking into our conference and like you know, then 261 00:13:57.360 --> 00:13:59.480 reporting back what was going on to her, you know, 262 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:06.240 and stuff like this. I'm like, for real, Okay, anyway, Sorry, 263 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:08.080 I didn't mean to go into that big of a rant. 264 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:10.600 But you know, don't buy that ten dollars whatever they 265 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:12.559 charge it for a DVD and me don't buy it. 266 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:16.440 But anyway, this year's conference, so I plan to do 267 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:19.840 something different. You might want to save this one. And 268 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:23.559 I've been guaranteed that I will not be undermined, interrupted, 269 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:26.320 or screwed with. Even if I do piss off the 270 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:28.759 owner of the thing. I've already told her I might, 271 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:30.919 And this is the way this is going to go, 272 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:33.120 and I'm going to finish it one way or another. 273 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:38.080 So yeah, that's where we're going this year. So I 274 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:39.960 don't know if I'll ever be invited back, but I 275 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:42.799 am the MC this year at least as long as 276 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:45.879 I survive to get there, so it might be worth it. Yeah, 277 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:50.200 definitely do that Assassination Conference dot com and just remember 278 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:53.799 Ocelly ten, Ocelly ten, you know my name, and put 279 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:55.879 a ten at the end and you'll get ten percent off. 280 00:14:55.960 --> 00:15:00.559 They go, Okay, that'll help out. Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm 281 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:03.279 really interested. I mean, you've kind of talked about your 282 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:06.639 topic and I'm kind of I'm kind of interested, you know, 283 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:11.080 you know, I I'm not at the degree of a 284 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:14.159 researcher like you folks are. But I mean, I've always 285 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:18.000 been extremely inquisitive and rereading. But I do care about 286 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:20.840 the truth, and I like the type of research you do, 287 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:23.840 and it's like you're trying, you're just trying to get 288 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:27.200 to what really has happened and how they you know, 289 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:30.000 and try to stay away from things are modeled, and 290 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:33.279 you're willing to change a point of view and based 291 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:36.399 on facts, and I really I really appreciate that type 292 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:41.600 of research because you people get so married to the 293 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:45.919 what they want to believe, which they we're all guilty. 294 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:52.600 You won't, you won't budge, and it's it's I mean, 295 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:55.480 I don't see the benefit that you know. 296 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:58.720 And there's my opinion and you probably wouldn't even know it. 297 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:01.559 But there's been a whole thing this weekend because you know, 298 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:06.639 Representative Luna ended up receiving some documents from the Russians 299 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:08.879 this week right, a couple of days ago. 300 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:12.159 Saw something on them on on X. Yeah, I don't 301 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:15.600 know the whole scope of it. You know, I don't 302 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.960 have I don't have enough time to research. I have 303 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:22.039 to rely on others. You were more didicated, right, So. 304 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:24.519 I'm sure b Pete is aware of this, you know, 305 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:27.919 just because it was a you know interest. But you've 306 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:30.720 been tracking this, right b Pete, the whole like Luna 307 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:32.600 and the Russian documents and all that. 308 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:36.679 Yeah, I've seen some stuff on next today. I was 309 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:38.919 going to ask you about it later when we've decided 310 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:42.039 to change to another topic of what you know, smoking 311 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:44.159 gun has come out of the stack. I haven't seen 312 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:48.039 one yet, but you know the Russians. Hey, it was 313 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:51.759 an inside job, and you know it's it's these guys 314 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:56.799 over there in this rogue group of individuals that were 315 00:16:56.840 --> 00:16:57.919 responsible for it. 316 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:02.240 Yeah. Well, look we're hitting stuff from you know, the 317 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:08.119 Russian intelligence agencies, right, so you know already temper your expectations, 318 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:10.839 and not because I got anything against Russians, but again 319 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:12.759 it's just what are you going to do? That's the 320 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:15.160 adversary in the Cold War, right, so what do you want? 321 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:20.039 But the point is that because of the government shutdown, 322 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:24.039 this is another key interesting point. Because of the government shutdown, 323 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:26.960 guess what, NARA can't even receive and work with this 324 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:34.640 stuff the National archives. Right. Well, anyway, there's been some 325 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:38.039 objections now from people who've gotten very angry, and I 326 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.960 understand part of their anger. But because there's no government 327 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:46.599 agency to work with these documents, guess what, Jeff Morley 328 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:50.960 and Mary Farrell said. We'll take them and we'll publish 329 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:52.680 them so that people can get a hold of them. 330 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:57.640 We'll even do the translations because we're available. And that 331 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.000 has caused a lot of subcontroversy. 332 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.160 She ought to just go ahead and start live streaming 333 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:05.960 in her office and pull out a document and read it. 334 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:06.960 I'd sit there and watch. 335 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:07.440 I know. 336 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:12.240 Our friends over at the lone Gunman would be all 337 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:16.599 eyes wide open. Maybe we fans. 338 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:18.720 Well, the problem is, you know, you got a dossier 339 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:21.160 in hand. Now, it's the three hundred and thirty pages 340 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:25.039 that they sent, and it's inorganized through. 341 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:27.839 Yeah, sit through three hundred and thirty pages. 342 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:30.799 Okay, as long as she's wearing that red, white and 343 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:32.440 blue outfit that made her famous. 344 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:36.000 Well you know, you you with the attractive women you 345 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:39.680 know in politics lately. But okay, the thing is three 346 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.720 hundred and thirty pages. It's in Russian, you know, so 347 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:51.119 she can't read it directly, don't care? I know, Yeah, 348 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:55.359 there you go. Yeah, what you're what you're telling me 349 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:57.079 is she can read it in Latin, even if she 350 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:59.359 doesn't know Latin, you don't care, you'll watch Okay, I 351 00:18:59.359 --> 00:18:59.680 got you. 352 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:03.200 This way, I'll sit there and listen to a Korean 353 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:07.119 woman who's hotter nail rapped for fifteen minutes and not 354 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:08.799 understand a single damn words. 355 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:11.079 She said, it's just pleasant to sit through. 356 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:15.079 Okay, I got you. See, Now me, I don't know. 357 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:16.599 They got to they got to at least speak a 358 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.440 language I understand in order for me to care. But okay, 359 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:22.559 that's just me. And that's because probably I got bad eyesight, 360 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:25.480 so I'm missing out on a lot of things. You know, 361 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:31.960 blind guy, duh. Anyhow, Yeah, so there's that element here 362 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:34.559 where there's this controversy because why in the hell does 363 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:37.160 Jeff Morley get to see these things versed and blah blah, 364 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:40.240 Well you know what he's involved in it. I'm not 365 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:43.599 thrilled either that this is the process. But guess what. 366 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:47.160 Government shuts down a lot of things. You know, work 367 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:49.279 is not going to get done, and it just so 368 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:52.079 happens we can't do anything with these documents until the 369 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:55.119 government reopens as far as the National Archives is concerned. 370 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:59.240 So over a JFK fact, yeah, fine, but over a 371 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:03.599 JFK facts. Morley has now done what he's you know, 372 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:07.880 published him. You can go download him yourself, go get 373 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:11.759 him yourself if you want. All right, So, I mean, 374 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:13.880 I don't know why people are screaming at him about 375 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:17.440 it and like really pissed about it, but there it is. 376 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:21.319 That's what they're doing. So that's a weird subcontract. But 377 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:24.440 there's always stuff like this going on, and lately because 378 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:27.559 of this Oversight Committee and the interest there and Trump's 379 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:31.079 executive water, uh, you know what, there's been a bit 380 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:32.839 of action. So what do you what do you want 381 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:34.200 me to tell you? 382 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:37.799 You know what I mean, Danny, No matter what they do, 383 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:40.680 there's gonna be people that aren't pleased with the process. 384 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:42.759 I mean, that's just the way it is. Especially when 385 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.720 you're talking about this gang of folks that are involved 386 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:47.400 in JFK research. 387 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:51.359 Well, right, you know, it's sort of like the old joke, right, 388 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:54.720 you know, and this is about you know, the Battle 389 00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:57.039 of the sex is. Let's just say, I love that 390 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:01.240 family guy a clip where you know he's he's redoing TV. 391 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:04.359 Everything's about redoing TV. So they have to relaunch everything 392 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:07.640 from scratch and they turn around, they go, well, we 393 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:09.480 need a couple of shows where people are fighting with 394 00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:14.119 each other. So, you know, so Peter goes, all right, 395 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.160 we'll go get some men, go do this. Go get 396 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:18.640 this simple thing and they'll fight. Go film it by 397 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:20.759 get out of here, all right, Now what we need 398 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:22.720 a couple more shows of fighting. Well, I'll tell you what. 399 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:25.200 Here's what we do. We go get a couple of 400 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:27.240 gay guys and do this and that, and then they'll 401 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:30.519 start fighting. Okay, go we still need more fighting shows. Okay, 402 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:32.319 you know what, go get a couple of women and 403 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.119 just get a couple of women, they'll start fighting. 404 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:35.279 Go. 405 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:40.000 I feel like the JFK community is like a bunch 406 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:46.680 of women in a workplace, you know, where there's a guarantee. No, 407 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:49.640 I'm serious. It doesn't even matter who's got what genitals say, 408 00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:52.799 it's just they behave in exactly that way. You put 409 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:55.559 enough of us together, there will be a fight. It's 410 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:58.200 just that simple. There will be arguments and they'll escalate. 411 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:00.480 And the more of us you put together other or 412 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.000 the more you know, diverse group you put together, the 413 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:07.839 worse and cats. You know. At this point, Russ Baker 414 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:10.200 just walks up to me now and stares at me 415 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:12.839 and gives me weird, dirty stink eye looks, and that's it. 416 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:15.960 That's where he's at with me. And it's all because, 417 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:18.400 you know, I busted him on that ridiculous, you know, 418 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:21.839 bush and deally placid thing, and I insisted that's ridiculous. 419 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:25.119 And now I got a grown man who shows up 420 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:28.920 every couple of years to stare at me. I mean, really, 421 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:34.920 this is this is what we're doing. And uh so 422 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:38.279 you know, doesn't that boil it all down? Yeah? But 423 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:43.839 it's really really oddly easily triggered. I mean, snowflakes of 424 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:47.200 every political stripe end up in the JFK thing. Man, 425 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:50.440 they just do. Uh, they're freaked out. They've got no 426 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:53.160 thick skin at all. I mean, lefty, righty, you know, 427 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:58.279 supposedly I'm a political They're all kind of snowflakes. They 428 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:02.480 freak out, especially when you insult them. And when you 429 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:04.759 insult like you were talking about with the you know, 430 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:07.119 the whole thing, like they're married to stuff. You don't 431 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:10.000 know how I've dragged that thing out where I've explained 432 00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:12.119 to people it's very much like when I was a 433 00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:15.079 younger man and a guy would go home with a 434 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:18.480 girl or a woman, depending on their age, and they'd 435 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:20.400 be drinking, and the two of them would be drinking, 436 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:24.160 and they'd wake up next to them and realize, holy crap, 437 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:26.119 this is not the woman I thought I went home 438 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:28.880 with last night. I definitely was wearing the beer goggles. 439 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:32.799 And usually they'll quickly kind of deal with that, try 440 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:35.759 to politely, go listen, I'm busy today, but you got 441 00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:37.359 to get the hell up on out of here, really, 442 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.319 and they'll distance themselves and not call that woman because, 443 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:44.799 holy crap, they made a mistake. These guys don't want 444 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:47.319 to admit that they took the ugly girl home from 445 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:51.480 the bar. And that's what their problem is. Even when 446 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:55.720 it falls apart, it's logically bs, it's clearly no good, 447 00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:59.640 they stay stuck to it, you know, like it's a 448 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:02.319 baby mama, and they don't want to abandon the baby. 449 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:04.759 I mean, it's just that bad. They took the ugly 450 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.440 girl home from the bar. They don't want to admit 451 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.960 that they didn't didn't met Marilyn Monroe that night, and 452 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:15.480 here we are, and they stick to it. And I've 453 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:19.799 never seen anything like it in any sort of serious occupation, 454 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:22.720 whether it's something you got paid for or was a hobby. 455 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:25.440 I've never seen people like this, except in the case 456 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:29.039 of sports teams. Sometimes, you know where somebody sticks with 457 00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:32.319 the sports, Like if you're a freaking oh my god, 458 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:35.079 if you're like in football, if you're a fan of 459 00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:38.799 the Cleveland Browns, Okay, you know what I'm saying, Like, 460 00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:41.839 you definitely stuck with it. Have you been like that 461 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:45.039 for a couple of decades? You stayed with the ugly 462 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:47.240 girl in the bar and kept a straight face about 463 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:50.079 it and did not mind that other people knew you 464 00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:52.400 brought the ugly girl home from the bar. That's okay, 465 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:55.759 But we don't have that in the JFK community. Everybody 466 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.839 since they brought home the princess, and you know, they'd 467 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:02.240 be lucky if the frog is still alive. I mean, 468 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:06.240 it's just where they're at. Anyhow. That's the way I 469 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:08.720 see it. And it's blunt and it's kind of rude 470 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:11.319 according to some people, but I can't. I can't do 471 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:16.519 it any other way. So Danny, accurate analogy, But go ahead, 472 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.359 what else you got we cycle that? Yeah? 473 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:21.559 Well, I think I think what you just talked about, 474 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:24.519 just like the community, the research community that you're talking 475 00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:30.640 about that's human nature. I mean every every organization that 476 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.119 I've dealt with in one way or another, where it's 477 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:39.119 uh a local fire department, a little league, baseball, of 478 00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:44.119 soccer league, a church, UH, different committees in the church. 479 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:47.599 You know, human egos getting away. I mean they're fragile 480 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:51.599 and and there's just there's always too many chiefs and 481 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:55.480 two little Indians and like I said, you know, we 482 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.200 do things a certain way and we get bent out 483 00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:00.799 of shape and I don't know, we just slight drama. 484 00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:03.160 Well, human nature. I have a trauma. 485 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:05.480 I have a little Yeah, I have a little theory 486 00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:07.119 on this, dandy, and I want to run it by 487 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:10.079 you and also get B Pete's take on this, UH, 488 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:12.119 and then we'll cycle back through the callers, go back 489 00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:14.440 around to Jimmy and whoever else calls in. By the way, 490 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.319 three one nine, five two seven five zero one six, 491 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:20.000 we're definitely going to be live for at least I 492 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:22.839 don't know, another half hour, forty minutes. I'm gonna keep 493 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.880 us going. But you know, I have a theory and 494 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:27.640 I want to get both of your takes on this, 495 00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.279 and again you can join in anybody hearing us live 496 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.319 at about UH let's see twenty yeah, twenty to ten 497 00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:37.119 right now, live in the East coast, in the Eastern 498 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:40.920 time zone. Right uh here on the let's make sure 499 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:44.279 about my date even the seventeenth day of October, Okay, 500 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:46.680 and I can't believe we're almost halfway through the month, 501 00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:51.640 But seventeenth of October twenty to ten pm Eastern, Okay, 502 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:54.480 nine forty or so. You can join us at three 503 00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:57.279 one nine five two seven five zero one six. But 504 00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:00.440 otherwise we're gonna, you know, cycle back through the callers, 505 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.640 maybe even take a quick break. But before I go there, 506 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:06.720 I want to get you, take both of you. Actually, 507 00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:09.359 we'll start with be Pete. Let Danny think about this 508 00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:13.559 for a minute. Be Pete. Here's my theory. These guys, right, 509 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:18.039 they're the smartest guy among their little group at home. 510 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.279 Whatever state they're in, Okay, like you know, doesn't matter 511 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:24.400 if they're from Iowa or they're in some you know, 512 00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:27.400 remote part of Pennsylvania that you got to actually literally 513 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:29.759 check to see if it's on a map and it exists, right, 514 00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:34.039 or if they're you know, in Oklahoma in a town 515 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:37.119 that doesn't sound like it belongs in Oklahoma, whatever they 516 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:39.279 could be there or they could be in Los Angeles, 517 00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:43.039 but among their group in their place where they are, 518 00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:46.599 they're usually one of the smartest people there and always 519 00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.920 thought to be that. Right. Then they author a book 520 00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:52.920 or they do a documentary and they are the smartest guy, 521 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:55.880 and as far as the locals are concerned and their 522 00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:00.799 little friend group and their family, they are the JFK expert. 523 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.559 And maybe at their job, if they're a school teacher 524 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:08.480 or whatever, at that job, they're the JFK expert. Okay, 525 00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:13.799 And then they go and they actually expose their stuff. 526 00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:15.440 You know, they put out a book, but they didn't 527 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:17.799 have to face any of their readers. They put out 528 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:20.079 videos on YouTube. They never had to deal with any 529 00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:23.000 of those face to face. I think they get a 530 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:27.119 shock when they run into a bunch of other people 531 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.160 that might actually call them on some of their bs, 532 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.799 show them the flaws in their work, point out to 533 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:36.880 them where they should have done better, could have dug deeper, whatever, 534 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.799 And I think that's the buyer's remorse that comes in 535 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:45.079 where they then dig in their heels and decide, Nope, 536 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:47.920 I know I'm the great one from Des Moines, or 537 00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:51.440 I'm the good guy from Jersey. I'm the smartest man 538 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.839 in Delaware when it comes to the JFK assassination, and 539 00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.480 then they expose themselves to a wider group and they 540 00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:02.480 find out guess what, maybe not? What do you think 541 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:04.880 is that the culture shock that we see when they 542 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.480 dig in their heels and they just stay married to 543 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:09.839 the ugly chick they brought home from the bar? What 544 00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:13.599 what do you think? Me, Pete? Yeah, a lot of times. 545 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.559 But then you've also got people that are higher up 546 00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:22.000 in the food chain among all of those people. I mean, 547 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.880 take Fetzer for example. The guy's got a PhD. Fetcher's 548 00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.920 a smart guy. He put out a lot of publications 549 00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:34.279 over the years dealing with computer intelligence and things of 550 00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:37.480 that nature. Don't get me wrong, Fetzer is smart. But 551 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.440 Fetzer can be awfully stupid when it comes to things, 552 00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.599 and he's a perfect example of an educated idiot. When 553 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:49.039 it comes to certain things in the JFK world that 554 00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.799 you can't explain it to him, He's going to double 555 00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:54.640 down and double down harder and harder and harder. We've 556 00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:57.079 seen it with everything that he's gotten involved with from 557 00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:59.039 nine to eleven JFK. 558 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:00.319 Thing. 559 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:06.359 So yeah, you see that, you see, but it's not 560 00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:07.960 just the conspiracy. 561 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.400 So let me let me Sometimes it's that little guy 562 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:13.680 down there. There's the local guy that brings something out 563 00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:19.200 and then after further investigation, right, okay, we find out the. 564 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:20.519 Guy was wrong, but at. 565 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.240 Least he disproves something that a lot of people were 566 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:24.480 thinking over the years. 567 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:27.000 Okay, let me let me try and just dig in 568 00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:28.799 on something that you said here and get a little 569 00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:32.240 more detail from you, because yes, you're right about all this. 570 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.680 And somebody can say, well that's about you know, your 571 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:36.799 theories and you had to build him and all that, 572 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:40.039 but there is a hubris here that goes beyond just 573 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:43.440 what Fetzer decided is his big you know theory. And 574 00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:45.839 you heard it on this show. Like twenty fifteen, we 575 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.680 did a you know, an anniversary JFK show and the 576 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.279 guy started freaking out at me and Carmine for going, 577 00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:55.039 whoa whoa hold on with your you know, massive dump 578 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.279 of factoids. Relax, you know, what are you talking about 579 00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:00.960 with this or that? And the thing is, as he 580 00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:02.920 freaked out and started saying, we had our heads up, 581 00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:06.039 our ass and all kinds of stuff. It's fun. It's 582 00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:10.880 in the archives out there somewhere. Anyway. The other problem 583 00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:14.000 is though. It's a hubris that goes beyond just his theories, 584 00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:16.839 because remember when he walked in to do that court case, 585 00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.720 and I'm sure that we covered it on the show. 586 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:21.759 You and I think we did a call in show 587 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:24.720 and we had Ace come in and report to us 588 00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:28.400 about what was happening in the courtroom, right that you 589 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:31.480 were with me on that. Okay. So he goes into 590 00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:36.319 court and the judge tells him, you know, Xyz, you 591 00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:38.759 can't do this. Don't do that. Now you have to 592 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.559 follow the judge's instructions. You're you know what, literally you're 593 00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:46.079 playing on his court, okay, and it's a legal ball. 594 00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:48.960 You got to do things according to what the court 595 00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.079 wants and translate that when the court says, we're talking 596 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.319 about the judge. The judge tells him, you can't bring 597 00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:59.799 this stuff here as evidence. It will not be entered 598 00:31:59.880 --> 00:32:03.480 into evidence. Therefore, you're literally not going to be able 599 00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:07.480 to participate in this legal proceeding. You have nothing to 600 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.279 bring to the table because I'm telling you that doesn't 601 00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:12.960 go on my table. Then he tells him, I'll give 602 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.240 you this piece of evidence that you want to examine, 603 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.680 will give you access to a piece of video. Do not, okay, 604 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.200 share it with this or this or this. It does 605 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.319 not get disseminated to anyone else. This is for your 606 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:30.519 eyes only. He violates that rule. His arrogance goes beyond 607 00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:35.400 just his pet theories, because he heard the rules, he 608 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.880 understood what he was told, He asked to it, because 609 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:41.799 he understands the language, and as you said, is intelligent 610 00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.640 enough to handle complex things. So when he's told don't 611 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.079 show this video to anybody else, then he comes back 612 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.759 to the judge literally saying, I brought this to another 613 00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:56.279 video expert when he was specifically told not to do that. 614 00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:59.759 I mean that one day's worth of observation from Ace 615 00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:03.119 was priceless because it was like this guy was told 616 00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:06.759 the rules, told how things work, and then said, screw it, 617 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.200 I'm going to do it anyway. And that is a 618 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:14.400 whole other level of arrogance. That again, and that's from 619 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.680 the top of the food chain. You said it, it 620 00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:19.119 is true, but I was talking about the guys coming 621 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.839 up and becoming and climbing up the ladder on the 622 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.480 food chain. You've got a whole other set of problems 623 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:26.599 from the top of the food chain. But this is 624 00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:31.759 definitely one of them where their own egos and belief 625 00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:37.119 in their intellect alone causes this problem. Wouldn't you agree 626 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.839 with that, VP, Because that's another issue on top of 627 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.599 just like he loves his theory and you know, has 628 00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:45.960 a bone to pick with the Jews. You know, outside 629 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.839 of those two things, he's got an ego issue here 630 00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:51.839 where it's like my ego supersedes and trumps. 631 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:56.119 All right, Oh yeah, definitely, definitely. 632 00:33:58.480 --> 00:33:59.039 I don't. 633 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:03.440 I'm trying to think. You know, he really when he 634 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.200 went into court, he needed to have a lawyer and 635 00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:09.199 he didn't have one, and that's why he basically lost. 636 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:11.960 I mean, well he. 637 00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:16.039 Lost on the merits of the case, but some of 638 00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:18.519 the things that he did that kind of angered at 639 00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:19.039 the court. 640 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:23.840 You know, well that's what I was just I could. 641 00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:26.519 Not understand the concept of he might not know what 642 00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:30.239 he's talking about. And then you take his case versus 643 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:34.199 say Alex Jones. Now, Alex Jones, his biggest problem was 644 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.880 he didn't show up and so it was a summary 645 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:41.519 judgment against him. And this last appeal that he had 646 00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:45.400 on the billion dollars that he owes, he appealed it 647 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:47.400 to the Supreme Court and they didn't even want to 648 00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:51.920 hear it, his biggest mistake was not going to court 649 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.519 when he should have gone, and it may have had 650 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:55.559 a different outcome. 651 00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:00.320 Okay, but both of them share something here. I think 652 00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:04.239 I must have not properly explained this because both of 653 00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.280 them have the same problem, be Pete, and that is this. 654 00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:10.519 I know what the mechanism is, I know what I 655 00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.760 was instructed to do to participate in this one way 656 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:19.199 or another, and both of them did things that automatically 657 00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.239 made it so they're not participating in part of the process. 658 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.639 Fitzer wouldn't follow the rules, wouldn't go along with the 659 00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.880 conditions of things. So therefore tried to walk in there 660 00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:31.639 and say nope, I'm going to drop this in front 661 00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.480 of you in court. Anyway, got told no. So that 662 00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:36.199 was the end of that. Whether he had a lawyer 663 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.920 or not, he could have chosen to participate or not. 664 00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:42.280 And by the fact that he would not even play 665 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.199 by the rules, it's like showing up for a baseball 666 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:48.119 game and saying that's okay, I'm going to hit this 667 00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:51.679 with a paddle. You know, you can't go up to 668 00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.480 bat with a giant ping pong paddle. It doesn't work 669 00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:58.199 that way. Okay, so automatically, Oh, I couldn't play in 670 00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.760 the game. Absolutely. Jones didn't show up for a bunch 671 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:06.079 of things, therefore gave up his right to argue. See, 672 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.360 both of them gave up their rights to argue by 673 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:14.400 not participating according to the parameters that were set by 674 00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.159 the court. This is a common thing and both of 675 00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.840 them it's the same ego issue. Although I think Alex 676 00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.199 Jones intentionally did it so that he could, you know, 677 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.440 have the martyrdom financially, and that's another issue. But Fetzer, 678 00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.679 it made no sense he was going to get personally 679 00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:33.440 held liable for something that he intentionally did not play 680 00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:36.559 by the rules to even have a chance to step 681 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.079 in the ring and fight, you know what I mean. 682 00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.719 So both of them did the same thing, though they 683 00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:46.320 both you know, absolutely ignored the fact that somebody else 684 00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:49.119 set the rules and you have to do this in 685 00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:54.119 this in order to even begin to fight. So there 686 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.320 it is. That's that other level of arrogance I'm talking 687 00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:00.280 about where it's like, you know, there are some people, yes, 688 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.719 they have the privilege of ignoring all the rules, but 689 00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:05.400 it's not that many of us, and some of us 690 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.719 think we are and we're not Fetzer was not one 691 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:10.480 of those people that could ignore all the rules and 692 00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:14.760 still get something done. Alex Jones same thing, although he's 693 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.880 continued to broadcast and thrive. So, you know, I don't 694 00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:21.679 know what to tell you there. That's a weird nexus situation. 695 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:24.599 But the thing is both of them seem to go 696 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.559 into this with the idea of that doesn't matter what 697 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.159 the rules are, how the game is played, I'm going 698 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:32.239 to show up and bang, do it my way, and 699 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.880 it's going to get done. And both of them wound 700 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:38.079 up with judgments against them. So to me, this is 701 00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:39.800 the same problem. What do you think of that? 702 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.440 Yeah, I mean it basically came down and they did 703 00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.800 the same thing. It oppos it into the spectrum. 704 00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:51.840 Yeah, yeah, So Danny, your thoughts on this though, what 705 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.320 do you think about the original question? 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I run back out and I 801 00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:03.400 just catching time for somebody to run across my front 802 00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:07.960 lawn pelting my house with something. Anyway. Welcome to making 803 00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:11.400 Joja and Welcome New York. Kelly Effect in the final 804 00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:15.880 segment for Tonight, figured i'd relate that to you, just 805 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:18.360 the strangeness I get taking a break and trying to 806 00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:20.880 I don't know, go pee and get a drink. It's 807 00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.679 it's fun. Anyway. We'll be here till about ten thirty. 808 00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:27.079 We'll get back around to everybody that called in best 809 00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.199 we can, and if anybody new joins US three one nine, 810 00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.440 five two seven five zero one six, hopefully you'll be 811 00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.039 doing most of the talking because my throat is thrashed 812 00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:40.199 as it has been all week, and I'm surprised I'm 813 00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:43.000 still able to speak. So there we go, be Pete. 814 00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:47.440 Anything on your mind as we go to the final segment. 815 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:52.840 No, just an update on the Fetzer deal. I was 816 00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:56.760 looking at the homepage of a poser that basically caught 817 00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:58.360 all the TETs or stuff. 818 00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:02.239 Sure, apparently there's some appeal. 819 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.480 They're waiting on a decision on an appeal, and I 820 00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:09.239 think it's at the state level, the state Supreme Court 821 00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:13.199 in Wisconsin. So that's still he's still on the hook 822 00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:16.079 for the million dollars. He's only partially settled about a 823 00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:20.239 thousand or twenty thousand of but I think on the 824 00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:24.360 initial damages, not the six hundred thousand that he was 825 00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:28.000 hit in lawyer fees and all. But yeah, yeahfets are 826 00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:29.599 still treadwater. 827 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.559 So Is that like close to two million between all 828 00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:35.079 the fees and the settlement? Is that what we're looking 829 00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:35.440 at here? 830 00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:40.559 Or No, it's like one point one meal Okay, close 831 00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:41.840 to one point one I think it was. 832 00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:43.119 I think it was one meal. 833 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:47.000 One hundred thousand, one hundred and sixty five thousand or 834 00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:48.199 something is what it came up to. 835 00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:50.360 Well, that's not as bad as I thought it was 836 00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:53.719 on the guy, but it's still going to hurt, you know. 837 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:55.000 I'm sure that's going to put hurt. 838 00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:58.880 It wasn't a billion like uh, you know, like Alex 839 00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:00.920 Jones got hit with billion dollars. 840 00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:02.199 Man, that's a whole lot of cash. 841 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:05.000 But here's the thing. He's big enough to throw a 842 00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:07.719 billion dollar bullet at you know what I mean. That's 843 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.039 the thing I think people don't recognize because he was 844 00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:12.719 still up to this day, as far as I know, 845 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.960 still takes donations like I do. You know what I mean? 846 00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:19.320 Where it's like, and I believe me, I'm nowhere near 847 00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.440 you know, million or even one hundred thousand dollars territory 848 00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.639 or even fifty thousand dollars territory. When it comes to 849 00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:27.519 what it is, I can even you know, begin to 850 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:29.480 take in. I mean, it's a joke to even think 851 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:32.599 about fifty thousand, but I mean the amount of money 852 00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:36.639 this guy takes out good. It's interesting. 853 00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:42.320 The state of Wisconsin, the judge in all this at 854 00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:46.119 the circuit level before it was appealed, he had to 855 00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:49.559 finally issue an order saying that Fetcher was not allowed 856 00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:53.920 to file in any court, any circuit court in Wisconsin, 857 00:49:54.679 --> 00:50:01.119 any paperwork whatsoever having to do with Leonard Poster, no opposer, 858 00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:03.199 Sandy Hook Elementary School. 859 00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.559 I mean, there's a list there because. 860 00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:08.920 Fetzer, you know, you made the comment about sharing a 861 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:10.800 video in all and having people look at it, and 862 00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:14.280 he wasn't supposed to, but he has continued on even 863 00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:18.800 toil late last year, like he had a copy of 864 00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:25.840 no Posner's passport and he was sent he sent a 865 00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.320 copy of this to somebody. One of his witnesses on paper, 866 00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:34.519 Anonymous too to supposedly looked at a video of this 867 00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:38.000 kid watching a Superman movie or a Spider Man movie 868 00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:42.000 and then taking dates and trying to show that the 869 00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:44.199 passport that he had to be older than this date 870 00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.679 on the passport because here he is watching this movie 871 00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:48.000 and talking about Spider Man. 872 00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:51.199 And finally the court just got ticked off and said, 873 00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:51.960 that's it, buddy. 874 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.320 You can't other than paperwork you need to file for 875 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:57.880 your appeal, you can't file anything regarding a list of 876 00:50:57.920 --> 00:50:58.719 about nine. 877 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:00.960 Different things in the state of Wisconsin. 878 00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:03.360 You're done. It's gotten that bad. 879 00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:05.599 Well, But that's the thing is the guy continues on. 880 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:08.840 He's still doing a podcast somewhere, I think too. But 881 00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.440 Alex Sjoones a different story. Like I said, just that 882 00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:15.119 he takes in donations, but he also sells stuff constantly. 883 00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.679 He's got that stuff even when the even when the 884 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:20.760 Onions supposedly took over his stuff, right, they were still 885 00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:23.599 selling the Alex Jones products if you hit the product page, 886 00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:26.119 so I mean, and you go there, like right now, 887 00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:28.360 I accidentally hit a thing on X. Because he's got 888 00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:30.440 two channels on X that always come to the top 889 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.679 of my you know what's happening, and here's live broadcasts 890 00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:38.239 on X. He's got prominent placement there permanently for two channels, 891 00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.400 won the Alex Jones channel, and now he's got Info 892 00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:43.360 Wars back and he's had it, you know, for a while. 893 00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:45.800 But the fun part is, like I clicked on it 894 00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.800 accidentally and I was immediately, you know, barraged with the 895 00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:55.719 Hakeem Jeffries special on the health supplements because Hakeem Jeffries 896 00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:58.159 is trying to take us down, so we've made a 897 00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:00.199 special in his name. You get a discount if you 898 00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:04.360 used the code Hakem Jeffries. I mean not kidding literally 899 00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:06.400 like that was and I'm like, oh god, I mean 900 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:09.199 every once in a while I end up like stumbling 901 00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:11.559 into one of his broadcasts and it's always a gem. 902 00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:14.599 You know that that is being pumped at me by 903 00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:17.760 by Alex Jones if I click on it. And that's 904 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:20.119 what I got the other day, the Hakkim Jeffries special 905 00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:22.920 because Hawkem Jeffries has targeted us there, trying to take 906 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:24.800 us down, and you got to fight the in war 907 00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:28.920 by buying this health supplement you know, in mail enhancement 908 00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:35.840 and war. Anyway, there he is panic attack Jones still existing. 909 00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:38.239 He can take the billion dollar hit the amount of 910 00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:39.519 money that that guy's taken in. 911 00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.519 I understand that he got his uh what is YouTube 912 00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:47.400 channel back and then and then they immediately canceled it again. 913 00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:49.840 I don't know, I can't keep track. Oh I know, 914 00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:52.159 is I put in because remember in like a half 915 00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.880 a day. Yeah, remember you sent me the article. Hey, 916 00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:58.159 they're actually reconsidering people that were taking down for certain things. 917 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:00.400 I actually have a screenshot I was going to bring 918 00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:02.159 up with you, but we're way too late in the 919 00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:04.960 show now. But next week I'll talk to you about 920 00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.480 my You know, there's no way that hell I'm getting 921 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.239 my YouTube channel back, even though a lot of other 922 00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:13.039 people are. But anyway, we'll get into that next week. 923 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:15.719 Let's get back to the callers because they've been waiting, 924 00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:17.679 and again new ones if you want to jump in 925 00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.159 on the end. Three one nine, five, two seven five 926 00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:23.880 zero one six. We're keeping this going. So Jimmy, you 927 00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:26.639 were first in line. Let's get you up again first 928 00:53:26.679 --> 00:53:28.519 and see what else you got on your mind. 929 00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:41.280 Jimmy, Oh, let's see there's much spoken. There was. 930 00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:44.840 Anything you want to tag onto or throw something brand 931 00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:46.480 new in the mix, Go for it, it's all you. 932 00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:59.760 Well, let's see I remember something about that's sure? 933 00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:04.159 And Kirk last week, didn't you mentioned wanting to know 934 00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:08.559 what big operation was coming up before Kennedy got killed 935 00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:09.559 or something like that. 936 00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.719 I gotta tell you, I'm not quite catching what you're 937 00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:22.320 throwing down here. Which operation was ongoing when Kennedy was killed. 938 00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:25.360 There was a bunch a bunch of different operations depending 939 00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:27.360 on what you're talking about, I mean in the CIA 940 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.440 or in the military or well. 941 00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:33.639 Tess test one two three. 942 00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:38.360 Yeah, somehow you didn't hear half of what I said. Okay, one, 943 00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:39.800 Professor hand. 944 00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:41.920 Can you hear me? No? 945 00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:43.679 Yeah, I heard his first time. 946 00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:51.840 Go ahead, I don't think you did. Okay, all right, Well, 947 00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:57.159 last week the professor handcut is on. 948 00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:02.159 He mentioned it sounded the like he didn't understand what 949 00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:11.800 big operation was upcoming in the JFK situation. You don't 950 00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:17.679 recall this, but he didn't seem to get some yes, No, maybe. 951 00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.559 I am not connecting with what it is you're asking. 952 00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:22.800 As I said the first time, Jimmy, I heard every 953 00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:25.199 word you said, but I don't understand what you're. 954 00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:32.880 Asking fascinating people. 955 00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:36.320 Well, I can help you press through the way to 956 00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:40.199 invade Cuba in December. 957 00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:43.719 Okay, right, And that's. 958 00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:45.639 Yep. 959 00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:48.960 And that's as per Secretary State. 960 00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:54.119 Ross great Sturgists, all sorts of people up and down 961 00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:58.360 the line, And that would have been the only chance 962 00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:01.639 in hell of JFK Benning that election had. 963 00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:04.280 He had lived. I see. 964 00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:10.400 Okay, uh, BPTE anything. Uh you want to grab on 965 00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:15.320 this or no, I'll leave that one to you. 966 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:16.440 You're the document guy. 967 00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:23.119 Okay, okay, Jimmy, Well, I don't know how to answer that. Okay, 968 00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:30.280 the possible invasion of Cuba? That the whole thing, which 969 00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:34.000 which thing are we talking about? Here? The the CD. 970 00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:38.880 Why that quantity wouldn't have had a quarter of his 971 00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:42.239 head blown off? Yes, there would have been an invasion 972 00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:43.960 of Cuba in December? 973 00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:45.639 Do you not get this? 974 00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:46.960 You're not aware of this? 975 00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:50.840 No, some people have posited that, and I do not 976 00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:53.800 believe that scenario is valid. I don't think that was 977 00:56:54.000 --> 00:57:00.960 a certainty. Various people have made this their escape. 978 00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:06.079 That way rep countless documents. It's the only way the 979 00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:09.559 JFK would have been reelected. Do you understand that? 980 00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:11.199 Do you acknowledge that? 981 00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:14.320 No? I don't knowledge that. No, I do not acknowledge that. 982 00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:17.480 I do not know that for certain, because no, I don't, 983 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:18.679 because there was a whole. 984 00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:21.559 Year hal all me. 985 00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:24.519 No, no, no, no, don't talk to me like this. 986 00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:27.119 No no, no, no no no no no no no 987 00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:28.880 no no no no no no no no no. Hold 988 00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:30.519 on a second, You're not going to just cut me 989 00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:32.079 off and do that to me when I'm trying to 990 00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:36.360 navigate through what you're saying. Okay, no, I don't know 991 00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:40.079 why you're hostile to me tonight, but I disagree with 992 00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:41.960 something and I'm trying to say that to you, and 993 00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:43.000 you're a halt and this and that? 994 00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:44.360 What is this? 995 00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:47.000 What did I do to you? I'll put you back 996 00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:49.519 on and I'll just sit back. But I don't know 997 00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:52.360 what I did wrong to you? Exactly? Do you hear this? 998 00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:56.280 Be Peter? Am I crazy? Well? 999 00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:58.719 I heard it, but I mean, yeah, what Jimmy is 1000 00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:02.440 just you know, before you start trailing off, he's trying to, 1001 00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:05.159 I don't know, guess, keep you on a specific part 1002 00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:06.039 of the topic. 1003 00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:09.360 Okay, so I was trailing off. Okay, I'm sorry. I 1004 00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:10.559 did not realize that. 1005 00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:13.440 But no, no, no, no, I'm not saying you were 1006 00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:16.280 trailing off. You're going in a direction that was veering 1007 00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:18.800 off of what his point is. And I'm not sure 1008 00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.719 that he's from what I gather. His point is is 1009 00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.079 that there was an operation that was going to come up, 1010 00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:28.280 and I don't understand that's the only way he could 1011 00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:29.880 be elected a re elected thing. 1012 00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:35.199 But yeah, I don't think I. 1013 00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:38.079 Personally don't think he was planning on an operation to 1014 00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:41.239 invade Cuba in December, and so he was taken out 1015 00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:44.119 in November because up till that point he was the 1016 00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:46.599 one working. You know, they were working back channels on 1017 00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:51.000 the Cuban missile deal, and it was okay, if you 1018 00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.400 were you move your missiles. We won't do this, we 1019 00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:56.039 won't move our missiles into such and such in Germany, 1020 00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:58.760 and blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, and there was 1021 00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:02.400 that backdoor negotiation that was going on while everybody was 1022 00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:04.400 getting what was coming from the press, and there was 1023 00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:06.280 no mere mention of it. It didn't come out until 1024 00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.880 much later that he was talking in fact channels to Russia. 1025 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:11.880 Yeah, of course, and then that was right. But according 1026 00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:15.239 to a lot of different documentations, sure there were contingency 1027 00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.320 plans and various ideas about invading Cuba. But what Jimmy's 1028 00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:22.360 saying is that basically he's like yelling at me that 1029 00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:25.199 I'm not acknowledging with a certainty that a year later 1030 00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:29.679 JFK wouldn't have been reelected. You know what, I have 1031 00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:34.760 trouble making that determination with any sort of certainty based 1032 00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:36.519 on the fact that you know, the election was in 1033 00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:38.559 sixty four, but I don't know, you know, I. 1034 00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:42.559 Can yeah, I feel like there was no question Kennedy 1035 00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:44.320 was going to be re elected. It's just a question 1036 00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:49.239 whether they're going to bring Johnson along or get somebody else. Okay, 1037 00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:52.079 pretty much got to bring Johnson along. It's kind of 1038 00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:54.559 hard to discard your vice president in a second run. 1039 00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:57.079 Well, that might have been the case, but this is 1040 00:59:57.119 --> 00:59:59.480 a whole lot of speculation for something that would have 1041 00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:03.519 been a year later almost, and I just I say no, 1042 01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:05.760 I can't say with certainty that, and then he's like, 1043 01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:08.119 oh pulp this and that. I'm like, dude, calm down, 1044 01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:12.519 you know, let's talk. You know, don't don't try yelling 1045 01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:13.760 at me, Like what am I? 1046 01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:17.079 That's just a Jimmy is okay. 1047 01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:18.840 I just wanted to find out what I did wrong 1048 01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:20.480 there that like all of a sudden he was like 1049 01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:22.119 kind of angry with me. I'm like, what did I 1050 01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:24.400 do to anger him? I don't know, but I'll put 1051 01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:26.280 him back on and let him speak for himself now. 1052 01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:29.360 But I'm not gonna get like yelled at well. I'm 1053 01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:31.199 trying to talk to you and trying to figure out 1054 01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:35.639 what it is. You're asking me anyway, that's that's my job. Yeah, 1055 01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:38.400 well yeah, you yell at me that that's your job exactly. Okay, 1056 01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:42.719 hold on, Jimmy, I'm gonna put you back on. I 1057 01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.719 may be totally in the wrong here, but there you go, Jimmy. 1058 01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:48.440 Now you go ahead, I'll shut up. 1059 01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:49.559 Joke. 1060 01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:51.840 Don't believe. 1061 01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:56.679 God damn you because you don't scream over me and 1062 01:00:57.199 --> 01:00:59.079 treat me like a jerk. No, no, no, you're not 1063 01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:00.760 gonna real quickly? 1064 01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:02.119 All right? 1065 01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:08.719 First, thanks, First, last, Okay, when b Pete said I'm 1066 01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:12.360 not sure that he was killed because there was gonna 1067 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:16.400 be an invasion, I never said anything remotely like that. 1068 01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:22.280 And you to why you get yelled. 1069 01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.920 That's because when I speak, you start yacking away and 1070 01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:26.719 still let me finish my point. 1071 01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.679 Good lord, Well, I wanted to understand your point, Jimmy, 1072 01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:32.639 and I was trying to do that, and then you 1073 01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:36.679 start barking at me and all this. Well, you don't 1074 01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:37.239 do that to me. 1075 01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.360 There you go, you talk blah blah. 1076 01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:45.880 Look here here's the real deal, all right. He asked 1077 01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:50.639 me why they wouldn't have been reelected. Gee, let's see 1078 01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:52.199 the burlin. 1079 01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:54.159 Wall to be of pigs. 1080 01:01:55.079 --> 01:01:58.119 His approval rating was in the shitty. When about the 1081 01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:02.719 face of genius, Goldwater would have wiped the floor with him. 1082 01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:06.880 Maybe he had no chance in how Maybe Watson won 1083 01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:10.559 on the ghost of ft because he was a martyr. 1084 01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:11.840 It's as simple as that. 1085 01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:16.000 And there's plenty of documents showing that there was going 1086 01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:21.119 to be an invasion in Cuba in December, and Bobby 1087 01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:24.079 Kennedy was running the damn thing because he wanted his 1088 01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:29.199 brother to win. That comes from russ That comes from stupids, 1089 01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:30.519 that comes from everyone. 1090 01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:38.639 Okay, so let me you're finished, right, So I'll ask 1091 01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:42.840 a question. Now here's the thing. With a whole year 1092 01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:47.199 going before the election, it seems to me as though 1093 01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:51.760 a year is enough time for everything to change. Uh, 1094 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:56.159 you know, like say Goldwater doesn't even run, So you don't. 1095 01:02:56.039 --> 01:02:59.440 Know have to do with anything I just done. You 1096 01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:03.840 asked me for reasons why JFK would invade Cuba. I 1097 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:07.559 gave you one very highly good reason, okay, why it 1098 01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:10.519 was in his In fact, I got one of them 1099 01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:13.360 bastards a tape saying why they were going to do it. 1100 01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:18.000 Okay, But regardless of what it is, that's regardless of 1101 01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:20.840 what it is that we're supposedly planned and everything else. 1102 01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:23.599 I mean, I'd like to see those documents because the 1103 01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:27.239 stuff that I've seen doesn't satisfy to me that there 1104 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:30.480 was a definite invasion plan. But put that aside, let's 1105 01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:32.079 just say you're right, I'll leave that alone. 1106 01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:36.960 My question is really important I need to add in, 1107 01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:41.800 so okay, could please hold on, Yes, this is an 1108 01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:47.400 important one. Sure you and your documents? Okay, Yeah, Let's 1109 01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:50.000 see what Felix Rodriguez was up to. 1110 01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:54.719 Uh huh, what he was up to preceding the assassination, 1111 01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:56.239 where was he headed? 1112 01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:00.280 And why was he doing it? If there was no 1113 01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:04.679 damned invasion, I'm not dying that there's a lot of 1114 01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:06.880 cub It's doing fascinating things. 1115 01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:09.840 I just I just said, I'll even just you know, 1116 01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:13.280 submit to fine, there was an invasion being planned. Whatever. 1117 01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:16.039 I wanted to ask a different question, but go ahead. 1118 01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:21.199 Well I've got a question. That's question could be. 1119 01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:26.039 If why didn't Johnson carry through with the plans to 1120 01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:27.079 invade Cuba. 1121 01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:36.719 Because maybe it wasn't Johnson's idea, Maybe it was mostly 1122 01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:40.639 Kennedy all hopped up one to get into Cuba. That 1123 01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:43.960 maybe is Robert Kennedy mostly that was worried about it. 1124 01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:45.920 I don't know. I wasn't there. 1125 01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:48.719 I don't care about that part fair enough. Oh I've 1126 01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:52.079 ever cared about is finding out who blew aways Kennedy. 1127 01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:53.400 But the hell was that? 1128 01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:59.519 That's weird, if speaking anyway. Oh and another thing that 1129 01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:06.840 the professor said that was really odd. He somehow got confused. 1130 01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:14.039 He couldn't could see, well, it's it, Ah was the deal. 1131 01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:17.079 Let's see I found that with him and saying, oh, 1132 01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:18.840 it is pretty good. 1133 01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:20.400 Uh something about. 1134 01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:23.880 Oh he thought it was all instantaneous. 1135 01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:24.719 That was cute. 1136 01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:27.440 How he pretended that the people that went the cat 1137 01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:31.760 went to Cuba to take over the joint, got turned around, 1138 01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:35.000 as he put it, and sent back because uh. 1139 01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:40.440 Castro asked him to No, that's not how it worked, professor. 1140 01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:43.199 They got the ship beat out of him and common 1141 01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:44.880 prison for a couple of years. 1142 01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:48.320 That's what led to their anger toward Kennedy. 1143 01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:50.400 It wasn't about. 1144 01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:52.559 Policies, this and the other thing. 1145 01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:56.440 But you won't get that because you're never wear an 1146 01:05:56.480 --> 01:05:58.880 operator and that's a big woop. 1147 01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:03.239 It's just you can't get it. You can't you will, Okay, 1148 01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:06.079 it's too bad. We can't all work together. Your But 1149 01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:07.880 at the end of the day, you know, I was 1150 01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:10.000 just thinking of supposium would be great. 1151 01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:14.599 But as uh you pointed out earlier, normal as soon 1152 01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:15.880 blah blah blah. 1153 01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:20.920 You're right to be just one jackass trying to argue 1154 01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:22.280 with someone else. 1155 01:06:22.119 --> 01:06:29.079 About idy oddic just minute horseship because they want to 1156 01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:30.599 keep this going forever. 1157 01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:35.559 It's a cottage industry. I want to solve the case. 1158 01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:39.280 If they if you don't go start with the top 1159 01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:42.079 man and work your way down, you start from the 1160 01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:47.639 battom and work your way up. Well, they don't want 1161 01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:48.679 to solve the case. 1162 01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:51.360 Well, how I have to solve I don't understand the 1163 01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:54.000 motive is exactly that doubt. 1164 01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:59.239 I'm going to get any help from those COMMI documents. Yeah, okay, yeah, 1165 01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:01.199 all right, I'm I hear you there. 1166 01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:04.719 Look the funny thing is I agree with your ultimate conclusion. 1167 01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:07.239 I wouldn't have put it that way, but ultimately your 1168 01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:12.000 conclusions all correct. And I guess you have arguments with 1169 01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:15.639 stuff that Larry said on the show like a week 1170 01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:19.119 ago plus. Okay, that's what we're talking about here. I 1171 01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:23.199 finally figured that out. But he kind of made a 1172 01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:25.079 joke about, Yeah, what are they going to do? Turn 1173 01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:27.440 around those operators and send them back to Dallas to 1174 01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:31.159 go kill Kennedy. Okay, but that that was his point 1175 01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:34.199 of view. I mean, if you want to, you know, 1176 01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:38.280 go ahead and write, you know, a nice counter to 1177 01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:41.000 what he had to say, and I'll gladly give it 1178 01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:42.760 to him and maybe we'll read it on the show. 1179 01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:46.719 He's supposed to come back, what twenty ninth or the 1180 01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:49.880 thirtieth one or the other on the show. He's a 1181 01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:53.400 little busy this week. But if you want, I'll do that, 1182 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:55.639 Go ahead and write it up. Tell me exactly what 1183 01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:57.880 it is that I should be bringing up to him, 1184 01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:02.199 and I'll read it verbatim if you like. But this 1185 01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:05.159 is an argument you have with Larry. I'm saying I 1186 01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:07.639 didn't understand the point about like there was no way 1187 01:08:07.679 --> 01:08:11.000 he was going to be elected a year later. I 1188 01:08:11.119 --> 01:08:13.800 get that Johnson got elected, you know, basically on the 1189 01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:19.119 on the sympathy for the murder of JFK. Sure he 1190 01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:21.119 waltz right in there in sixty four because of that. 1191 01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:24.359 Otherwise I don't know if Johnson would have been a 1192 01:08:24.479 --> 01:08:30.239 nationally electable figure at all, you know, personally that's my viewpoint. 1193 01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:34.680 The reason I brought up the reason I brought up 1194 01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:38.960 the election is that was one of the main motivations 1195 01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:42.239 for Bobby Kennedy wanting to go back into Cuba. 1196 01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:44.560 Okay, that's my opinion based on. 1197 01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:47.880 You know, that's evidence, and that's fair enough. You can 1198 01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:50.479 have that opinion, and I can see how that opinion works. 1199 01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:53.399 That's the possibility Bobby Kennedy was involved in a whole 1200 01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:55.000 bunch of crap he didn't want the world to know 1201 01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:58.319 about at that time directly, which is why he literally 1202 01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:02.600 said somebody to interfere with Garrett since investigation. In my mind, 1203 01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:06.039 that's again my mind, and John Mellen thought the same. 1204 01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:10.920 But the thing is, I just I sit here and 1205 01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:13.159 I go, well, I can't predict with any certainty that 1206 01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:15.239 he would or would not have won in sixty four 1207 01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:17.760 had he not been killed. I don't know. I know 1208 01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:19.640 that he would have stayed there for the rest of 1209 01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:21.840 sixty four and he would have finished out his term 1210 01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:25.079 at the very least. But that's the only thing I 1211 01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:28.119 can say with certainty. If he hadn't been killed, I think, 1212 01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:32.119 you know, but I don't have any certainty about the 1213 01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:35.039 election because I've looked at this a lot of different ways, 1214 01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:37.439 and people have made many different arguments about what he 1215 01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:39.840 needed to be re elected or if he would have been. 1216 01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:45.520 I don't think that that matters, because again, he still 1217 01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:48.520 had another year of what it was he was going 1218 01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:50.840 to be doing, whatever that would have been, and whatever 1219 01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:52.720 would have been caused by his actions. 1220 01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:57.880 Right, I mean, he hit he hit put the major there. 1221 01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:02.720 You're right, it doesn't matter as that wasn't his fate. Well, 1222 01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:04.720 people don't want to talk about fate. 1223 01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:08.800 Nonetheless, I could assure you one day we will be fatalities, 1224 01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:11.520 and it won't be when you and I choose. 1225 01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:16.640 Nonetheless, there is such a thing as fate. Can I 1226 01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:20.239 agree with you? And in any case, there is such 1227 01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:21.439 a thing as uh. 1228 01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:24.279 Well, well there you go. 1229 01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:25.479 You and I. 1230 01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:28.159 You and I actually see Yeah, you and I actually 1231 01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:30.159 see things the same way here. There is such a 1232 01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:32.920 thing as fate, And indeed I believe that, Yeah, you're right, 1233 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:35.279 it is very possible that you and I will be 1234 01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:38.640 fatalities in something that has nothing to do with our 1235 01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:42.000 direct actions in the very near future. I agree with 1236 01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:45.560 all that. But anyway, I give you a chance here 1237 01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:47.680 to throw in a final sentiment before I get to 1238 01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:50.479 the rest of the callers for the week. If you like, Jimmy, 1239 01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:50.880 go ahead. 1240 01:10:56.319 --> 01:11:02.520 Well, I'm like you may think there was inks stranger 1241 01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:05.079 on my site to to or b Pete. 1242 01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:10.680 I was a little hurt by the professor, all right, 1243 01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:14.960 a little stuff and something. Well, I don't know, he's 1244 01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:17.880 just he's held that on his idea. 1245 01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:19.760 Just like you said, you ain't gonna. 1246 01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:22.039 Get off that no more than I'm going to get 1247 01:11:22.079 --> 01:11:28.439 off these cubans. There you go out wherever, there you go. 1248 01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:32.079 So Jimmy James, wait a minute, I had cut you 1249 01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:34.760 off too early. That was an accident. That was an accident, 1250 01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:36.760 sorry accident. 1251 01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:40.520 Look at that. It was a good show you got. 1252 01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:42.600 I mean a loud stuff got covered. 1253 01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:48.399 Wow, miscellaneous tried and hey, I didn't even get to 1254 01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:51.760 mention that the Trump. Hey, I didn't even get the 1255 01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:54.560 chance the kids to mention the Trump. Trump commuted George 1256 01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:58.159 Santos sentence. Apparently I just got that little news brief there, 1257 01:11:59.199 --> 01:12:02.239 a little breaking was commuted George Sanchos. 1258 01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:05.960 Poor guy didn't deserve none of that crap. 1259 01:12:07.319 --> 01:12:11.239 But uh oh, chuck, I used that town percent cold 1260 01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:14.239 last year and I got the deluxe, So you better 1261 01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:15.159 have got money. 1262 01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:19.079 Oh really, I got a double check on that. Oh no, 1263 01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:22.640 it wasn't. Last year wasn't the problems. No, no, Jimmy, 1264 01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:24.600 last year wasn't the problem. Excuse me. It was the 1265 01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:30.159 year before that there was the problem. So anyway, No, 1266 01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:31.520 you're right, you're I bought it. 1267 01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:36.920 Well, he's. 1268 01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:43.319 I don't know. I'm not hearing them. Do you hear them? 1269 01:12:44.199 --> 01:12:49.920 B pete? He that's all I have. Peace? 1270 01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:53.680 There you go, peace, Jimmy, and uh, you know, sorry 1271 01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:57.920 about the aggravation from Professor Hancock or myself or whoever. 1272 01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:02.479 So I suddenly I felt like there was some anger 1273 01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:04.680 there and I didn't know why. I was just trying 1274 01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:07.840 to figure out what you were saying. Okay, anyway, enough 1275 01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:10.000 of that. We solved it. We resolved it, and we 1276 01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:11.560 seem to come down. Yeah, go ahead. 1277 01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:15.119 But he's sick. 1278 01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:18.479 He doesn't feel well. Yeah, that's well, so am I. 1279 01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:19.239 What are you going to do? 1280 01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:20.680 It is what it is. 1281 01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:22.760 The world is sick too, so you know, in a 1282 01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:24.960 sick world, if you're sick, are you actually sick? 1283 01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:25.479 I don't know? 1284 01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:29.840 Tree falling in the woods and all. Anyway, let's go 1285 01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:33.800 over to uh to Chris. Chris, you gotta find a 1286 01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:34.560 word for the week. 1287 01:13:39.920 --> 01:13:41.600 Well, not necessarily. 1288 01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:44.680 Just enjoy your life the best you can. 1289 01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:45.279 Everybody. 1290 01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:48.279 Hey, look, I'm doing the best I can, which reminds me, 1291 01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:51.239 you know what, really quick, I'm willing to do this 1292 01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:53.760 real fast. Unless you've got an extensive thing you want 1293 01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:58.520 to discuss. We could go over my list. You want 1294 01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:00.520 to go over my list? Yeah, let's do it, all right, 1295 01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:03.760 because okay, let's do it. So, as I said before, 1296 01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:06.800 Chris sends me this message and says, you know, give 1297 01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:09.159 me your top five rock songs, like the soundtrack of 1298 01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:11.479 your life. And I said, okay, well, first of all, 1299 01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:15.319 qualify rock and all that. Anyway, I could only get 1300 01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:17.880 it down to seven. So I made this list. Did 1301 01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:18.560 you see it, Chris? 1302 01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:22.119 Yeah? 1303 01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:23.640 While I was on hold. 1304 01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:26.119 Yeah, cheated, Okay, cool. 1305 01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:27.960 I didn't get a chance to listen to the mean 1306 01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:30.640 I'm familiar with the most of them, I'll say. 1307 01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:34.479 Fair enough. Okay, so this is the soundtrack? Is there 1308 01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:37.520 something to this? Because my soundtrack is the best I 1309 01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:39.680 could do is bring it down to seven. And it's 1310 01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:43.000 black Sabbath under the sun, Otis Redding sitting on the 1311 01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:46.680 dock of the Bay sound Garden blow up the outside world, 1312 01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:52.479 black label Society, suicide Messiah, nine inch nails, Hurt, Motorhead, 1313 01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:55.640 I don't believe a word, and rage against the machine, 1314 01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:59.520 Mike check. That represents the best I could do to 1315 01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:01.199 pair it to on to five and I only ended 1316 01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:07.239 up with seven. I couldn't quite do it. So what 1317 01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:08.680 are your thoughts about any of that? 1318 01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:17.640 Look, you know, that's one of those where. 1319 01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:24.479 Realistically we need to sit down to listen each one of. 1320 01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:25.399 Them one other one. 1321 01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:27.960 Okay, well, I'll tell you what you do that right, 1322 01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:30.399 and get back to me on it. Maybe we could 1323 01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:32.920 cover it next week, or we could have an exchange 1324 01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:36.079 on X or both right and just. 1325 01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:36.520 Do it up. 1326 01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:40.159 What do you think? Yeah, all right, that sounds like 1327 01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:42.000 a plan. So you got to find a word for 1328 01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:44.600 the week, like a caper here or something you want 1329 01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:45.239 to go out with. 1330 01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:52.560 Once again, just anybody who's listening, just to just, you know, 1331 01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:57.199 get away from the tech a little bit and just 1332 01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:01.039 focus on enjoying your life a little bit, do something meaningful. 1333 01:16:01.720 --> 01:16:03.319 Absolutely, we'll just leave it at the. 1334 01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:06.279 Can't argue with you there. Chris, Thanks for calling and 1335 01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:08.920 being a part of it and also contributing to the 1336 01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:12.680 network and contributing to the discussions and everything else. I 1337 01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:16.119 appreciate you and I thank you so On top of that, 1338 01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:18.600 we got our last one here because nobody else joined in, 1339 01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:21.960 and it looks like, yeah, Danny, you're going to be 1340 01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:23.720 the last caller to give us a final word for 1341 01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:26.399 the week. What's on your mind? Final word? 1342 01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:32.159 Yeah, just stay away from jealousy and in folks with 1343 01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:34.039 massive Eagles egos. 1344 01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:35.800 That's all I can say. 1345 01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:40.560 And just you know, by anybody out there, help Chuck 1346 01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:42.399 out to get to Texas. I'm going to send you 1347 01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:44.640 something here in a little bit, you know, prior to 1348 01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:48.920 your trip. So hopefully we'll help seeing you know, get 1349 01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:52.039 some beat. Maybe enough people can chip in and maybe 1350 01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:53.600 get your steak dinner or something. 1351 01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:57.119 Wow, well that would be great. Those guys I just 1352 01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:00.720 did a podcast with are gonna go to to uh 1353 01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:04.920 to Dallas and uh. I told them, you know, if 1354 01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:06.960 I can scrape up enough money, we can go over 1355 01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:11.600 to uh Campezes and split a pizza because the pizza 1356 01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:14.760 is not bad and I like going over to Campezes. 1357 01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:18.279 Uh Be Pete and I went when when we went together, 1358 01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:19.720 we went and sat down at the head of the 1359 01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:22.680 table there with the dally Plaza UK people and it 1360 01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:25.359 was great. But if I got a couple of bucks, 1361 01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:27.079 I'm gonna try and make that part of the trip. 1362 01:17:27.159 --> 01:17:30.119 If I can, uh and maybe go with those guys, 1363 01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:32.000 I'll catch a ride. You know, somebody's got to have 1364 01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:32.520 a rent. 1365 01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:37.279 A car, right right, Well, I get if you're hosting 1366 01:17:37.359 --> 01:17:38.920 that year and get out there, I'll make sure we 1367 01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:40.479 go to Campezes my treat. 1368 01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:42.760 Oh man, that would be great, But I don't. I 1369 01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:44.520 don't know if I'm gonna make it another year. But 1370 01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:46.520 you know, who knows, who knows if we'll all be 1371 01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:50.000 here in another year, Danny. I mean, at this rate. 1372 01:17:52.039 --> 01:17:54.199 Positive, I'm trying. 1373 01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:58.439 Look, I'm trying, and I hope you. I hope you're 1374 01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:00.840 around because you're you're you're you're good guy, and you 1375 01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:03.159 got this really long marriage that i'd like to see 1376 01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:06.920 get longer because it really makes me hopeful about the world. 1377 01:18:07.159 --> 01:18:10.239 You know that you that you were still there and 1378 01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:11.479 in a good mood. 1379 01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:16.000 Forty four years the same, the same, don't mine one 1380 01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:19.960 and only. I mean, I count my blessings. We've we've 1381 01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:23.279 built a good life with each other. I'm you know, 1382 01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:25.920 we've had her ups and downs, but a lot more ups, 1383 01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:28.079 you know, and we've come together. 1384 01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:30.279 It's I think it's been easy. 1385 01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:33.479 I mean, all the dramas you know, there's just no time. 1386 01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:38.000 For that exactly. Well, look, man, God made the gods 1387 01:18:38.079 --> 01:18:41.840 bless you and her and all things that you touch, man, 1388 01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:44.479 because you're a good guy and I appreciate you. So 1389 01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:48.439 that's Danny from California, and man, it's always good to 1390 01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:50.560 hear from him and everybody else on the show. I 1391 01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:54.479 appreciate you, guys. Bet Pete. I guess it's all up 1392 01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:56.800 to you to close this one out because obviously we're 1393 01:18:56.840 --> 01:18:59.960 not going to have Aaron on tonight. My voice is show, 1394 01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:03.000 but we went a little extra even so it is 1395 01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:05.279 what it is, almost two and a half hours tonight, 1396 01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:08.119 and I think that's good enough for a Friday night. 1397 01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:08.800 What do you say? 1398 01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:14.159 Well, all I can say is thanks everybody for calling in. 1399 01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:17.520 You know, we covered a lot of topics tonight, so 1400 01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:21.600 we'll just get ready and do it again next week. 1401 01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:25.479 Other than that, everybody go to a Chelli dot com 1402 01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:28.680 hit to donate button and do what you can. Thanks 1403 01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:32.840 to Jimmy and Chris and to Danny, and I'll throw 1404 01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:34.319 it back to you there. 1405 01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:37.039 You go, and I do appreciate you guys. Of course 1406 01:19:37.119 --> 01:19:39.800 I don't even survive without you. But also we keep 1407 01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:42.920 this going and we'll keep it up. I'm still looking 1408 01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:45.239 for ideas if you want to expand the call in 1409 01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:48.680 shows on the network, if you think that we should 1410 01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:52.880 add other things, other suggestions by all means, email me 1411 01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:56.640 blind JFK Researcher at gmail dot com, or you can 1412 01:19:56.760 --> 01:19:59.720 send it the same thing for the you know, for 1413 01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:02.159 the front page. If you want to send articles and 1414 01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:05.439 ideas and things like that, info at ochelly dot com. 1415 01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:08.359 You can message me on X reach me any which 1416 01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:12.279 way you want, because this show exists to serve those 1417 01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:16.039 of you that do support it, and I appreciate you guys, 1418 01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:20.479 and especially if you're chipping in much appreciation. You know, 1419 01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:22.920 everybody that you heard on the show tonight, to be 1420 01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:26.159 honest with you, is somebody who does contribute in some way, 1421 01:20:26.960 --> 01:20:29.960 so you know what, I appreciate them, and I hope 1422 01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:31.960 that those of you that are just listening to this, 1423 01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:34.880 you know and not calling in. First of all, I 1424 01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:37.600 wish you would on some one of these Friday nights, 1425 01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:39.640 but also if you want more chances to get on 1426 01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:42.239 the air and talk or interact or you know, change 1427 01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:44.840 the direction of the show. I'm open to it all 1428 01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:49.520 because that's the way this goes, and you know, I 1429 01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:52.680 do it my way, but I definitely hear all the 1430 01:20:52.720 --> 01:20:55.880 feedback and anything you got to say, and I leave 1431 01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:58.840 it open every Friday to do that. So here it is, 1432 01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:00.720 and I'm glad that I got my co host be 1433 01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:03.640 Pete with me to do it. And I'm especially grateful 1434 01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:08.439 for those of you listening. I am, after all, just O'shelley. 1435 01:21:08.680 --> 01:21:09.399 You are