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Speaker 2: Monday morning Sinko de Mayo, and Neil, as I explained,
Speaker 2: was of course shaking his head as I promoted this
Speaker 2: segment and talking about child labor laws and what Governor
Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis out of Florida loves about. iHeart DeSantis straight
Speaker 2: out is.
Speaker 3: In favor of child labor. I'll say that right now.
Speaker 2: He and one of his speeches pointed out how much
Speaker 2: he admires an appreciated. iHeart because if you ever got
Speaker 2: a KFI T shirt, it was made in Pakistan by
Speaker 2: six year olds earning three cents an hour, and Neil
Speaker 2: bought them when he was, as.
Speaker 3: A matter of fact, a head of promote for a
Speaker 3: very long.
Speaker 1: Actually used American made shirts, believe it or not, and
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. Great quality, well, I was making
Speaker 1: the decision.
Speaker 2: That's right, great quality as in, don't get them wet,
Speaker 2: don't sweat in them because the dye is going to
Speaker 2: run and.
Speaker 3: Your's going to be black all over.
Speaker 1: We got for you. No, I come from a silk
Speaker 1: screening background. I got the best baby but you.
Speaker 2: Did actually Okay, So that part of the story maybe
Speaker 2: is an exaggeration. But the part about the Santis liking
Speaker 2: Charles Charles child labor, that is a real problem. So
Speaker 2: he's chasing a bunch of immigrant workers out of his state.
Speaker 2: Of course he is, because of he's made the removal
Speaker 2: of illegal migrants part of his mantra.
Speaker 3: So here we are.
Speaker 2: Labor shortage and some of the most important industries in
Speaker 2: Florida construction, agriculture, tourism.
Speaker 3: So what do you do with it?
Speaker 2: I mean, we've got all these job openings and we
Speaker 2: don't have the illegal migrants anymore to work the job,
Speaker 2: particularly construction and the construction and agriculture.
Speaker 3: So what do you do? How about kids?
Speaker 2: DeSantis, during a March twenty appearance with Tom Hoeman, who
Speaker 2: is the new immigrations are, said, what's wrong with expecting
Speaker 2: our young people to be able to work part time?
Speaker 2: That's how it used to be when I was growing up.
Speaker 2: Why do we need to import foreigners, even import them
Speaker 2: illegally when teenagers used to work at the resorts. For example,
Speaker 2: last year, eight states, of course, including Florida, all led
Speaker 2: by Republicans.
Speaker 3: What they did is roll back a lot of the
Speaker 3: child protection laws.
Speaker 2: The big one was Iowa signed in the law by
Speaker 2: Republican Governor Kim Reynolds.
Speaker 3: Teams as young as fourteen.
Speaker 2: Can work in previously prohibited hazardous jobs in industrial laundries,
Speaker 2: for example, as young as fifteen Light assembly work also
Speaker 2: allows state agencies to waive restrictions on hazard is work
Speaker 2: for sixteen and seventeen year olds, including demolition, demolition, roofing, excavation,
Speaker 2: power driven machine operation sixteen and seventeen year olds. Now
Speaker 2: here's a philosophy here, and what is the premise of
Speaker 2: all this one is giving an opportunity for young people
Speaker 2: to actually do work that probably pays a lot more
Speaker 2: than sweeping floors. I mean, if you're operating machinery and
Speaker 2: it takes some skill to do so, you're going to
Speaker 2: get more money. Then you're not or than other jobs.
Speaker 2: And then what they're coaking this in is parental rights.
Speaker 2: If parents give consents for kids to work constructions and
Speaker 2: do roofing and they're sixteen years old, how can you
Speaker 2: deny parents the right to send their kids or allow
Speaker 2: their kids. So you've got federal law that's going to
Speaker 2: go totally the other way. OSHA has already been decimated.
Speaker 2: Dogs come in and really killed OSHA. The Occupational Safety
Speaker 2: and Health Administration, it is a whole different world that
Speaker 2: we're looking at when I say that this administration has
Speaker 2: caused a shift in where America is going, and now
Speaker 2: we're talking about it's not gonna be the same child
Speaker 2: labor as we used to have.
Speaker 3: There was a sixty minute piece.
Speaker 2: If you remember where you had the meat packing plants
Speaker 2: that every day have to be scrubbed down, and I
Speaker 2: mean with steam pressure cookers. This is FDA rules, which
Speaker 2: is why American meat products are among the safest in
Speaker 2: the world, simply because of the cleanliness factor. So what
Speaker 2: these meat processing plants do is they outsource.
Speaker 3: The cleaning overnight. And it is brutal. It is dangerous work.
Speaker 3: You're near machinery that can cut you have to crawl under.
Speaker 2: Places using these steam pressure machines that.
Speaker 3: Are incredibly powerful.
Speaker 2: You put in the wrong way, you burn your hands.
Speaker 2: I mean, all of it very dangerous. And sixty minutes
Speaker 2: went to a couple of these companies and found fourteen
Speaker 2: year olds working. Well, that's against the law, or was
Speaker 2: Franklin Roosevelt talked about child labor laws that he undid
Speaker 2: as an ancient atrocity. He said that in nineteen thirty three,
Speaker 2: we moved quite a bit ahead, probably some of the
Speaker 2: most I would guess, the most powerful labor protection laws
Speaker 2: for children out there, at least for a long period
Speaker 2: of time.
Speaker 3: What's happening now we're coming back ye Two reasons.
Speaker 2: One, business likes sixteen year old's running machinery.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a lot cheaper.
Speaker 2: There are certain conservatives who believe parents have the right,
Speaker 2: have the absolute right to allow their kids to do this. Now,
Speaker 2: some of these laws and by the way, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying put eight year olds to work, because part of
Speaker 2: the premise is you have a sixteen year old should
Speaker 2: be allowed to run machinery, assuming the sixteen year old
Speaker 2: is trained and is working limited hours. Oh yeah, limited
Speaker 2: hours used to be seven o'clock at night, now ten,
Speaker 2: and now it's nine o'clock at night. You can work
Speaker 2: till nine. Number of hours restricted. That's kind of opened up. Two,
Speaker 2: it's a different philosophy for sure.
Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens on this one. And it's
Speaker 3: just another one. And you know, maybe I'm wrong, but
Speaker 3: I kind.
Speaker 2: Of like kids not working. I'd much rather have a
Speaker 2: forty year old illegal migrant.
Speaker 1: Who do you think is making your pots and pants
Speaker 1: in China? Chinese people, young Chinese people, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I don't know, it could be.
Speaker 4: I have a twelve year old. I can't imagine her
Speaker 4: working machine, having machinery in like the next couple of years.
Speaker 1: American children have gotten soft.
Speaker 3: They're just say I've gotten soft. Damn right.
Speaker 2: That's and by the way, that's exactly the point that
Speaker 2: Ron Santas made.
Speaker 3: Now, I want her to work.
Speaker 4: She wants to work when she's old enough, but I
Speaker 4: don't know about operating heavy machinery.
Speaker 2: All right, So what kind of work? So your kid
Speaker 2: is thirteen fourteen years old wants a job? Head there,
Speaker 2: what kind of work would you allow her to do?
Speaker 4: She really wants to work, like at a movie theater.
Speaker 4: She loves grace. I think she also would work at,
Speaker 4: you know, like a clothing store or fast food. She
Speaker 4: really likes sushi. She'd like to work at a sushi restaurant.
Speaker 2: Oh have you mentioned her there will be no movie
Speaker 2: theaters for her to work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we've touched on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and those sushi cutting up the sushi boy those knives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she's pretty good.
Speaker 4: She's a good cook. You know, we teach our child
Speaker 4: to be self sufficient as much as possible.
Speaker 3: So yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: Around handle. You didn't push around a mower at twelve.
Speaker 3: No, I have never motor in my life.
Speaker 1: Oh I was mowing lawns.
Speaker 3: No, I never mowed lines. It's we used to have
Speaker 3: a Japanese gardener. Oh yeah, I mean those days, seriously,
Speaker 3: those were.
Speaker 2: Uh well, this was a long, long time ago when
Speaker 2: the entire agriculture industry, the gardeners were all Japanese.
Speaker 3: That become all Hispanic now.
Speaker 1: Oh, candles. So back when I lived in the Newberry
Speaker 1: Park area, there was a flyer that said real Chinese gardeners,
Speaker 1: Authentic Chinese gardeners. They came out. It was an elderly gentleman.
Speaker 1: His young daughter translated all of these things. They were
Speaker 1: just wonderful. We signed a contract with them Monday when
Speaker 1: they came. They were Mexicans.
Speaker 3: Eh, how is the unusual? Is that sound? That's it?
Speaker 2: By the way, I have a great story with our
Speaker 2: Japanese gardner. Okay, but we'll do that another time. Great
Speaker 2: story I want to share with you about a guy
Speaker 2: named Tom FREDI. He's Californian. And there's the immunologist by
Speaker 2: the name of Jacob Glanville who came across the media
Speaker 2: reports in twenty seventeen of a man who injected himself
Speaker 2: hundreds of times with a venom of some of the
Speaker 2: deadliest snakes cobras, mambas, rattlesnakes, and he kept on injecting himself,
Speaker 2: and you got Glanville going, wait a minute, this is
Speaker 2: kind of weird. For eighteen years freed Or Frede exposed
Speaker 2: himself to this venom and gained immunity to several of
Speaker 2: the neurotoxins. I mean, the guy sort of a minor scientist,
Speaker 2: completely self taught, and he meticulously wrote all this stuff down.
Speaker 2: So the immun just said, let's go to work, and
Speaker 2: using the blood of a freyday, they have developed some
Speaker 2: serious anti venoms that are.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, this is great stuff. And this
Speaker 3: is kind of and this is I love this stuff.
Speaker 2: This is not new technology, This isn't high tech AI.
Speaker 3: This is a guy.
Speaker 2: Who on his own sat and says, like the Wright brothers,
Speaker 2: on their own, they just sat there and ignored everybody
Speaker 2: else and came up with the idea, and he said,
Speaker 2: tell you what, did he wake up one day and go, hey,
Speaker 2: I know what I'm gonna do today. How about I
Speaker 2: get bit by a cobra, or maybe I get bit
Speaker 2: by a rattlesnake.
Speaker 3: And this is not religious in nature. Who are those people?
Speaker 2: Those real religious fruitcakes who go to and they have
Speaker 2: their services, their church services, they carry carry around the
Speaker 2: venomous snakes, speaking with servants, serpents, neil you this stuff.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, well that's what you said.
Speaker 2: I remember that you talked about going to church and
Speaker 2: you that's what part of the Bible is, speaking with
Speaker 2: serpent spartan. And then they have taken that to an
Speaker 2: extreme and they go around and they dance and charity it.
Speaker 1: Most of that stuff is on your side of the Bible.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well anyway they dance around, I don't want
Speaker 2: to hear that. They dance around and get bitten the
Speaker 2: eyeballs by a rattlesnake. And then if they survive, they've
Speaker 2: prayed enough. And if they die, eh, God decided you
Speaker 2: weren't good enough, so win win for them. The point
Speaker 2: is is that usually venom from a venomous, deadly sneak
Speaker 2: is deadly.
Speaker 3: In this case, this guy Fredy.
Speaker 2: Was able to basically develop antibodies his own and then
Speaker 2: the blood was extracted. Glenville, the immunologist took the blood
Speaker 2: and it was pretty impressive what they were able to do.
Speaker 2: Now this is in my so far they haven't yet
Speaker 2: done human testing, but the anti venom that was developed
Speaker 2: and was just published, by the way, this paper after
Speaker 2: years of work saying we may actually have something here,
Speaker 2: and it all comes from this guy doing, you know,
Speaker 2: playing around with rattlesnakes and venomous snakes and.
Speaker 3: Okay, why not it's fun story. Why not? Okay, story
Speaker 3: I want to share with you.
Speaker 2: This is a story about well, we start with a
Speaker 2: story about this gal Adriana Aria and it's the basis of.
Speaker 3: An LA Times. They have done this piece looking at what's.
Speaker 2: Happening in the junior college and in Los Angeles in general.
Speaker 2: We start with the fact community colleges absolutely play a
Speaker 2: critical role in our demand for healthcare workers. We need
Speaker 2: healthcare workers of all kinds. Now, connect that with LA
Speaker 2: County or LA City. The community college district, more than
Speaker 2: half of the students live near or below the poverty line,
Speaker 2: and they are studying to become healthcare workers, some nursing,
Speaker 2: some vocational nurses, but just in general.
Speaker 3: And that's what this.
Speaker 2: Story is about, both the need for healthcare workers locally,
Speaker 2: how poor people are dealing with it, and this program
Speaker 2: that pays these students one thousand dollars a month as
Speaker 2: a pilot program, and that is with no strings attached. Okay,
Speaker 2: so what are these people that are out below the
Speaker 2: poverty line do when they're going to school. They're holding
Speaker 2: down jobs to pay the rent, to pay for groceries.
Speaker 2: So the LA Community College District, the state's largest nine colleges,
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety four thousand students, has this program
Speaker 2: giving and this young lady or she's a poster child,
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars a month and guaranteed income for twelve
Speaker 2: months to two hundred and fifty one students with a
Speaker 2: demonstrated financial need who are pursuing health careers, and the
Speaker 2: participants can use the money any way they want. And
Speaker 2: what is the goal, of course, to eliminate that financial
Speaker 2: insecurity so students can in fact concentrate, because not enough
Speaker 2: students get out of junior college. Unfortunately, the success rate,
Speaker 2: the graduation rate isn't that good. So she is going
Speaker 2: to school and getting one thousand dollars a month. And
Speaker 2: then that was the fear in these pilot programs that
Speaker 2: have gone on around the country. We give money to
Speaker 2: people for doing nothing, just free money, and therefore they're
Speaker 2: going to piss it away. Now they're going to spend
Speaker 2: it on drug, sex, rock and roll. And it turns
Speaker 2: out that's not the case. Turns out virtually every single case,
Speaker 2: the money was very well spent. It was judicially spent,
Speaker 2: and that's the case here. And it looks like that's
Speaker 2: the way this pilot program is going, and you're having
Speaker 2: people that are joining society a meaningful way.
Speaker 3: Long term, is this going to help?
Speaker 2: Of course it will, because you're getting someone who is
Speaker 2: graduating out of this vocational school or going on to
Speaker 2: a four year school, staying and going into the health
Speaker 2: field where we really need people. I mean, nursing nurses
Speaker 2: are at such demand right now that any nurse can
Speaker 2: get a job anywhere. We have such a shortage, and
Speaker 2: so long term, doesn't this make sense.
Speaker 3: We don't know what the numbers are yet.
Speaker 2: All that we can do is look at the prospective future.
Speaker 2: But when you think about it, do we even deal
Speaker 2: with long term because in the short term it's free money.
Speaker 2: It's almost like the Dire Straits song right money for
Speaker 2: nothing in the chick are free.
Speaker 3: You know what do we do? You remember that song?
Speaker 3: It was a great song. Yes I do.
Speaker 1: I just have an aversion to you referring to anything
Speaker 1: music wise. Sometimes that's not okay.
Speaker 3: So we're going to pan out.
Speaker 2: We're going to see how this pans out and see
Speaker 2: how it works. And obviously there are people that are
Speaker 2: in the conservative the conservative milk or saying come out,
Speaker 2: we're just not going to give tax payer dollars because
Speaker 2: that's what this is about. Giving someone a year of
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars a month, here's twelve thousand dollars. You
Speaker 2: can do anything you want with it. We don't care.
Speaker 2: And it turns out that according to this pilot program,
Speaker 2: the money is being used to pay for groceries, help
Speaker 2: family because they all live with family for the most part,
Speaker 2: help family, pay for the rent in some cases, get
Speaker 2: people off the streets.
Speaker 3: So far, so good.
Speaker 2: The problem is we are not a society that is,
Speaker 2: we're not proactive.
Speaker 3: We're very reactive.
Speaker 2: That's simply the way we work and We're not good
Speaker 2: at playing the long game.
Speaker 3: We just aren't. But I'm hoping this works. I'm okay
Speaker 3: with this. I'm okay.
Speaker 2: Now let's finish up. And this has to do with
Speaker 2: AI and cancer cures.
Speaker 3: There are certain.
Speaker 2: Things that technology has done a great job of, but
Speaker 2: it just didn't pan out the way we thought.
Speaker 3: For example, we just.
Speaker 2: Received information from HHS Health and Human Services that we're
Speaker 2: finding out for example, the measles vaccine, which we thought
Speaker 2: was tremendous, Well it turns out not only does it
Speaker 2: cause autism, but it actually causes measles, and we didn't
Speaker 2: know that. It is not what we thought it was.
Speaker 2: Same thing with AI and cancer cures. I mean, this
Speaker 2: was going to be the end all be all. As
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, guy by the name of Dennis
Speaker 2: has ABIs or Demise has ABIs and Nobel Laureate AI
Speaker 2: Research and CEO of AI company said he hopes AI
Speaker 2: will be able to solve important scientific problems and help
Speaker 2: cure all diseases within five to ten years. Well, this
Speaker 2: is out of the Atlantic because they took that and said, okay.
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at that, because that's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: And this is a Nobel laureate who said this, This
Speaker 2: is not some political crackpot that speaks with a horse voice.
Speaker 3: No, this is the real thing.
Speaker 2: And we start with the fact that he and others
Speaker 2: who are saying this are executives of AI companies marketing AI.
Speaker 3: So is it possible, Yeah, but it's.
Speaker 2: A long way off from what I'm looking at. A
Speaker 2: lot of hyperbole coming because even if say open AI
Speaker 2: or a Google model propose a drug that looks like
Speaker 2: it's going to be able to cure a single type
Speaker 2: of cancer, because these are cancers are individual, you can't
Speaker 2: cancer is not all encompassing.
Speaker 3: You got cancer.
Speaker 2: It would still take years of laboratory and human trials
Speaker 2: to actually.
Speaker 3: See if it was safe, efficacy.
Speaker 2: Was there, and so there are guard rails with the
Speaker 2: or they used to be guardrails with the FDA. I
Speaker 2: don't know about it now coming out, but there are
Speaker 2: some serious guardrails.
Speaker 3: And there are two ways from what I understand, that
Speaker 3: AI is involved.
Speaker 2: The first one in which they think it might work
Speaker 2: is that new drugs are actually developed as a result
Speaker 2: of AI doing the work of the scientists who come
Speaker 2: up with this stuff. That is sort of back burner
Speaker 2: because what it looks like what AI is doing is
Speaker 2: able to synthesize and do a great job of putting
Speaker 2: all the information together, much like an amplified Google search,
Speaker 2: go through all of the literature and help science, help
Speaker 2: sciences create a new drug, not created on its own.
Speaker 3: So we're sort of in the middle. We really don't
Speaker 3: know what AI is going.
Speaker 2: To do, what it's about. I'm fascinated by this, I
Speaker 2: really am. Do I understand it not very much. What
Speaker 2: I do understand is the hype may be just too
Speaker 2: much hype.
Speaker 3: I hope not for sure. All right, I think we're done. Guys.
Speaker 2: Neil, you're back again tomorrow. Heather Brooker is a back.
Speaker 2: She's filling in for Amy. We start again tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2: Heather and Will are here with wake up Call.
Speaker 3: Neil.
Speaker 2: You and I come aboard Kono and you're always here
Speaker 2: and Gary and Shannon are up next. So catch you tomorrow.
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