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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>KFI AM six forty bill Handle here it is a

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<v Speaker 2>Monday morning Sinko de Mayo, and Neil, as I explained,

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<v Speaker 2>was of course shaking his head as I promoted this

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<v Speaker 2>segment and talking about child labor laws and what Governor

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<v Speaker 2>Ron DeSantis out of Florida loves about. iHeart DeSantis straight

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<v Speaker 2>out is.

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<v Speaker 3>In favor of child labor. I'll say that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>He and one of his speeches pointed out how much

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<v Speaker 2>he admires an appreciated. iHeart because if you ever got

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<v Speaker 2>a KFI T shirt, it was made in Pakistan by

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<v Speaker 2>six year olds earning three cents an hour, and Neil

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<v Speaker 2>bought them when he was, as.

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<v Speaker 3>A matter of fact, a head of promote for a

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<v Speaker 3>very long.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually used American made shirts, believe it or not, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it. Great quality, well, I was making

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<v Speaker 1>the decision.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, great quality as in, don't get them wet,

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<v Speaker 2>don't sweat in them because the dye is going to

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<v Speaker 2>run and.

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<v Speaker 3>Your's going to be black all over.

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<v Speaker 1>We got for you. No, I come from a silk

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<v Speaker 1>screening background. I got the best baby but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Did actually Okay, So that part of the story maybe

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<v Speaker 2>is an exaggeration. But the part about the Santis liking

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<v Speaker 2>Charles Charles child labor, that is a real problem. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's chasing a bunch of immigrant workers out of his state.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course he is, because of he's made the removal

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<v Speaker 2>of illegal migrants part of his mantra.

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<v Speaker 3>So here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Labor shortage and some of the most important industries in

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<v Speaker 2>Florida construction, agriculture, tourism.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you do with it?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've got all these job openings and we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the illegal migrants anymore to work the job,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly construction and the construction and agriculture.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you do? How about kids?

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<v Speaker 2>DeSantis, during a March twenty appearance with Tom Hoeman, who

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<v Speaker 2>is the new immigrations are, said, what's wrong with expecting

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<v Speaker 2>our young people to be able to work part time?

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<v Speaker 2>That's how it used to be when I was growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do we need to import foreigners, even import them

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<v Speaker 2>illegally when teenagers used to work at the resorts. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>last year, eight states, of course, including Florida, all led

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<v Speaker 2>by Republicans.

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<v Speaker 3>What they did is roll back a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>child protection laws.

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<v Speaker 2>The big one was Iowa signed in the law by

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<v Speaker 2>Republican Governor Kim Reynolds.

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<v Speaker 3>Teams as young as fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Can work in previously prohibited hazardous jobs in industrial laundries,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, as young as fifteen Light assembly work also

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<v Speaker 2>allows state agencies to waive restrictions on hazard is work

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<v Speaker 2>for sixteen and seventeen year olds, including demolition, demolition, roofing, excavation,

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<v Speaker 2>power driven machine operation sixteen and seventeen year olds. Now

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<v Speaker 2>here's a philosophy here, and what is the premise of

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<v Speaker 2>all this one is giving an opportunity for young people

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<v Speaker 2>to actually do work that probably pays a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>than sweeping floors. I mean, if you're operating machinery and

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<v Speaker 2>it takes some skill to do so, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get more money. Then you're not or than other jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>And then what they're coaking this in is parental rights.

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<v Speaker 2>If parents give consents for kids to work constructions and

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<v Speaker 2>do roofing and they're sixteen years old, how can you

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<v Speaker 2>deny parents the right to send their kids or allow

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<v Speaker 2>their kids. So you've got federal law that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>go totally the other way. OSHA has already been decimated.

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<v Speaker 2>Dogs come in and really killed OSHA. The Occupational Safety

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<v Speaker 2>and Health Administration, it is a whole different world that

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking at when I say that this administration has

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<v Speaker 2>caused a shift in where America is going, and now

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about it's not gonna be the same child

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<v Speaker 2>labor as we used to have.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a sixty minute piece.

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<v Speaker 2>If you remember where you had the meat packing plants

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<v Speaker 2>that every day have to be scrubbed down, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean with steam pressure cookers. This is FDA rules, which

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<v Speaker 2>is why American meat products are among the safest in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, simply because of the cleanliness factor. So what

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<v Speaker 2>these meat processing plants do is they outsource.

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<v Speaker 3>The cleaning overnight. And it is brutal. It is dangerous work.

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<v Speaker 3>You're near machinery that can cut you have to crawl under.

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<v Speaker 2>Places using these steam pressure machines that.

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<v Speaker 3>Are incredibly powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>You put in the wrong way, you burn your hands.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, all of it very dangerous. And sixty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>went to a couple of these companies and found fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>year olds working. Well, that's against the law, or was

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<v Speaker 2>Franklin Roosevelt talked about child labor laws that he undid

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<v Speaker 2>as an ancient atrocity. He said that in nineteen thirty three,

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<v Speaker 2>we moved quite a bit ahead, probably some of the

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<v Speaker 2>most I would guess, the most powerful labor protection laws

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<v Speaker 2>for children out there, at least for a long period

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<v Speaker 2>of time.

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<v Speaker 3>What's happening now we're coming back ye Two reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>One, business likes sixteen year old's running machinery.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be a lot cheaper.

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<v Speaker 2>There are certain conservatives who believe parents have the right,

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<v Speaker 2>have the absolute right to allow their kids to do this. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>some of these laws and by the way, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying put eight year olds to work, because part of

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<v Speaker 2>the premise is you have a sixteen year old should

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<v Speaker 2>be allowed to run machinery, assuming the sixteen year old

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<v Speaker 2>is trained and is working limited hours. Oh yeah, limited

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<v Speaker 2>hours used to be seven o'clock at night, now ten,

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<v Speaker 2>and now it's nine o'clock at night. You can work

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<v Speaker 2>till nine. Number of hours restricted. That's kind of opened up. Two,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different philosophy for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see what happens on this one. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>just another one. And you know, maybe I'm wrong, but

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<v Speaker 3>I kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of like kids not working. I'd much rather have a

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<v Speaker 2>forty year old illegal migrant.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think is making your pots and pants

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<v Speaker 1>in China? Chinese people, young Chinese people, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, I don't know, it could be.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a twelve year old. I can't imagine her

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<v Speaker 4>working machine, having machinery in like the next couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>American children have gotten soft.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just say I've gotten soft. Damn right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's and by the way, that's exactly the point that

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<v Speaker 2>Ron Santas made.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I want her to work.

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<v Speaker 4>She wants to work when she's old enough, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know about operating heavy machinery.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So what kind of work? So your kid

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<v Speaker 2>is thirteen fourteen years old wants a job? Head there,

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<v Speaker 2>what kind of work would you allow her to do?

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<v Speaker 4>She really wants to work, like at a movie theater.

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<v Speaker 4>She loves grace. I think she also would work at,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like a clothing store or fast food. She

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<v Speaker 4>really likes sushi. She'd like to work at a sushi restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh have you mentioned her there will be no movie

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<v Speaker 2>theaters for her to work.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, we've touched on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and those sushi cutting up the sushi boy those knives.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, she's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>She's a good cook. You know, we teach our child

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<v Speaker 4>to be self sufficient as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Around handle. You didn't push around a mower at twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I have never motor in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I was mowing lawns.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I never mowed lines. It's we used to have

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<v Speaker 3>a Japanese gardener. Oh yeah, I mean those days, seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>those were.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh well, this was a long, long time ago when

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<v Speaker 2>the entire agriculture industry, the gardeners were all Japanese.

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<v Speaker 3>That become all Hispanic now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, candles. So back when I lived in the Newberry

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<v Speaker 1>Park area, there was a flyer that said real Chinese gardeners,

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<v Speaker 1>Authentic Chinese gardeners. They came out. It was an elderly gentleman.

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<v Speaker 1>His young daughter translated all of these things. They were

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<v Speaker 1>just wonderful. We signed a contract with them Monday when

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<v Speaker 1>they came. They were Mexicans.

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<v Speaker 3>Eh, how is the unusual? Is that sound? That's it?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I have a great story with our

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese gardner. Okay, but we'll do that another time. Great

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<v Speaker 2>story I want to share with you about a guy

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<v Speaker 2>named Tom FREDI. He's Californian. And there's the immunologist by

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<v Speaker 2>the name of Jacob Glanville who came across the media

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<v Speaker 2>reports in twenty seventeen of a man who injected himself

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of times with a venom of some of the

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<v Speaker 2>deadliest snakes cobras, mambas, rattlesnakes, and he kept on injecting himself,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got Glanville going, wait a minute, this is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of weird. For eighteen years freed Or Frede exposed

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<v Speaker 2>himself to this venom and gained immunity to several of

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<v Speaker 2>the neurotoxins. I mean, the guy sort of a minor scientist,

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<v Speaker 2>completely self taught, and he meticulously wrote all this stuff down.

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<v Speaker 2>So the immun just said, let's go to work, and

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<v Speaker 2>using the blood of a freyday, they have developed some

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<v Speaker 2>serious anti venoms that are.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta tell you, this is great stuff. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of and this is I love this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not new technology, This isn't high tech AI.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Who on his own sat and says, like the Wright brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>on their own, they just sat there and ignored everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else and came up with the idea, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what, did he wake up one day and go, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I know what I'm gonna do today. How about I

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<v Speaker 2>get bit by a cobra, or maybe I get bit

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<v Speaker 2>by a rattlesnake.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is not religious in nature. Who are those people?

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<v Speaker 2>Those real religious fruitcakes who go to and they have

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<v Speaker 2>their services, their church services, they carry carry around the

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<v Speaker 2>venomous snakes, speaking with servants, serpents, neil you this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>That's yeah, well that's what you said.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that you talked about going to church and

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<v Speaker 2>you that's what part of the Bible is, speaking with

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<v Speaker 2>serpent spartan. And then they have taken that to an

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<v Speaker 2>extreme and they go around and they dance and charity it.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of that stuff is on your side of the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, well anyway they dance around, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear that. They dance around and get bitten the

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<v Speaker 2>eyeballs by a rattlesnake. And then if they survive, they've

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<v Speaker 2>prayed enough. And if they die, eh, God decided you

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<v Speaker 2>weren't good enough, so win win for them. The point

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<v Speaker 2>is is that usually venom from a venomous, deadly sneak

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<v Speaker 2>is deadly.

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<v Speaker 3>In this case, this guy Fredy.

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<v Speaker 2>Was able to basically develop antibodies his own and then

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<v Speaker 2>the blood was extracted. Glenville, the immunologist took the blood

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<v Speaker 2>and it was pretty impressive what they were able to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is in my so far they haven't yet

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<v Speaker 2>done human testing, but the anti venom that was developed

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<v Speaker 2>and was just published, by the way, this paper after

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<v Speaker 2>years of work saying we may actually have something here,

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<v Speaker 2>and it all comes from this guy doing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>playing around with rattlesnakes and venomous snakes and.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, why not it's fun story. Why not? Okay, story

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<v Speaker 3>I want to share with you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a story about well, we start with a

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<v Speaker 2>story about this gal Adriana Aria and it's the basis of.

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<v Speaker 3>An LA Times. They have done this piece looking at what's.

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<v Speaker 2>Happening in the junior college and in Los Angeles in general.

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<v Speaker 2>We start with the fact community colleges absolutely play a

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<v Speaker 2>critical role in our demand for healthcare workers. We need

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<v Speaker 2>healthcare workers of all kinds. Now, connect that with LA

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<v Speaker 2>County or LA City. The community college district, more than

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<v Speaker 2>half of the students live near or below the poverty line,

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<v Speaker 2>and they are studying to become healthcare workers, some nursing,

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<v Speaker 2>some vocational nurses, but just in general.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what this.

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<v Speaker 2>Story is about, both the need for healthcare workers locally,

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<v Speaker 2>how poor people are dealing with it, and this program

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<v Speaker 2>that pays these students one thousand dollars a month as

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<v Speaker 2>a pilot program, and that is with no strings attached. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so what are these people that are out below the

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<v Speaker 2>poverty line do when they're going to school. They're holding

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<v Speaker 2>down jobs to pay the rent, to pay for groceries.

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<v Speaker 2>So the LA Community College District, the state's largest nine colleges,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and ninety four thousand students, has this program

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<v Speaker 2>giving and this young lady or she's a poster child,

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand dollars a month and guaranteed income for twelve

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<v Speaker 2>months to two hundred and fifty one students with a

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<v Speaker 2>demonstrated financial need who are pursuing health careers, and the

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<v Speaker 2>participants can use the money any way they want. And

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<v Speaker 2>what is the goal, of course, to eliminate that financial

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<v Speaker 2>insecurity so students can in fact concentrate, because not enough

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<v Speaker 2>students get out of junior college. Unfortunately, the success rate,

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<v Speaker 2>the graduation rate isn't that good. So she is going

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<v Speaker 2>to school and getting one thousand dollars a month. And

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<v Speaker 2>then that was the fear in these pilot programs that

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<v Speaker 2>have gone on around the country. We give money to

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<v Speaker 2>people for doing nothing, just free money, and therefore they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to piss it away. Now they're going to spend

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<v Speaker 2>it on drug, sex, rock and roll. And it turns

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<v Speaker 2>out that's not the case. Turns out virtually every single case,

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<v Speaker 2>the money was very well spent. It was judicially spent,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the case here. And it looks like that's

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<v Speaker 2>the way this pilot program is going, and you're having

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<v Speaker 2>people that are joining society a meaningful way.

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<v Speaker 3>Long term, is this going to help?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course it will, because you're getting someone who is

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<v Speaker 2>graduating out of this vocational school or going on to

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<v Speaker 2>a four year school, staying and going into the health

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<v Speaker 2>field where we really need people. I mean, nursing nurses

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<v Speaker 2>are at such demand right now that any nurse can

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<v Speaker 2>get a job anywhere. We have such a shortage, and

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<v Speaker 2>so long term, doesn't this make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know what the numbers are yet.

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<v Speaker 2>All that we can do is look at the prospective future.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you think about it, do we even deal

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<v Speaker 2>with long term because in the short term it's free money.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like the Dire Straits song right money for

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<v Speaker 2>nothing in the chick are free.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what do we do? You remember that song?

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<v Speaker 3>It was a great song. Yes I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I just have an aversion to you referring to anything

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<v Speaker 1>music wise. Sometimes that's not okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to pan out.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to see how this pans out and see

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<v Speaker 2>how it works. And obviously there are people that are

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<v Speaker 2>in the conservative the conservative milk or saying come out,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just not going to give tax payer dollars because

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<v Speaker 2>that's what this is about. Giving someone a year of

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand dollars a month, here's twelve thousand dollars. You

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<v Speaker 2>can do anything you want with it. We don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>And it turns out that according to this pilot program,

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<v Speaker 2>the money is being used to pay for groceries, help

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<v Speaker 2>family because they all live with family for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>help family, pay for the rent in some cases, get

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<v Speaker 2>people off the streets.

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<v Speaker 3>So far, so good.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is we are not a society that is,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not proactive.

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<v Speaker 3>We're very reactive.

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<v Speaker 2>That's simply the way we work and We're not good

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<v Speaker 2>at playing the long game.

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<v Speaker 3>We just aren't. But I'm hoping this works. I'm okay

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<v Speaker 3>with this. I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's finish up. And this has to do with

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<v Speaker 2>AI and cancer cures.

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<v Speaker 3>There are certain.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that technology has done a great job of, but

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<v Speaker 2>it just didn't pan out the way we thought.

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<v Speaker 3>For example, we just.

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<v Speaker 2>Received information from HHS Health and Human Services that we're

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<v Speaker 2>finding out for example, the measles vaccine, which we thought

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<v Speaker 2>was tremendous, Well it turns out not only does it

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<v Speaker 2>cause autism, but it actually causes measles, and we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that. It is not what we thought it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing with AI and cancer cures. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be the end all be all. As

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact, guy by the name of Dennis

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<v Speaker 2>has ABIs or Demise has ABIs and Nobel Laureate AI

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<v Speaker 2>Research and CEO of AI company said he hopes AI

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<v Speaker 2>will be able to solve important scientific problems and help

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<v Speaker 2>cure all diseases within five to ten years. Well, this

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<v Speaker 2>is out of the Atlantic because they took that and said, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's take a look at that, because that's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a Nobel laureate who said this, This

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<v Speaker 2>is not some political crackpot that speaks with a horse voice.

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<v Speaker 3>No, this is the real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And we start with the fact that he and others

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<v Speaker 2>who are saying this are executives of AI companies marketing AI.

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<v Speaker 3>So is it possible, Yeah, but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A long way off from what I'm looking at. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of hyperbole coming because even if say open AI

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<v Speaker 2>or a Google model propose a drug that looks like

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be able to cure a single type

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<v Speaker 2>of cancer, because these are cancers are individual, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>cancer is not all encompassing.

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<v Speaker 3>You got cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>It would still take years of laboratory and human trials

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<v Speaker 2>to actually.

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<v Speaker 3>See if it was safe, efficacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there, and so there are guard rails with the

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<v Speaker 2>or they used to be guardrails with the FDA. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about it now coming out, but there are

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<v Speaker 2>some serious guardrails.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are two ways from what I understand, that

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<v Speaker 3>AI is involved.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one in which they think it might work

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<v Speaker 2>is that new drugs are actually developed as a result

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<v Speaker 2>of AI doing the work of the scientists who come

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<v Speaker 2>up with this stuff. That is sort of back burner

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<v Speaker 2>because what it looks like what AI is doing is

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<v Speaker 2>able to synthesize and do a great job of putting

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<v Speaker 2>all the information together, much like an amplified Google search,

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<v Speaker 2>go through all of the literature and help science, help

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<v Speaker 2>sciences create a new drug, not created on its own.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're sort of in the middle. We really don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what AI is going.

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<v Speaker 2>To do, what it's about. I'm fascinated by this, I

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<v Speaker 2>really am. Do I understand it not very much. What

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<v Speaker 2>I do understand is the hype may be just too

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<v Speaker 2>much hype.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope not for sure. All right, I think we're done. Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Neil, you're back again tomorrow. Heather Brooker is a back.

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<v Speaker 2>She's filling in for Amy. We start again tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Heather and Will are here with wake up Call.

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<v Speaker 3>Neil.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I come aboard Kono and you're always here

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<v Speaker 2>and Gary and Shannon are up next. So catch you tomorrow.

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