WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:07.719 It's time for Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:09.519 Sports Talk seven ninety. 3 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:11.839 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think 4 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:12.519 we are. 5 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:15.039 Get off our show, idiot. 6 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:17.559 The kids are playing or turn off your countries are 7 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:18.239 screwing it up. 8 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:21.559 Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals. 9 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:24.679 They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 10 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:28.559 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you 11 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:36.719 kidding me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee? 12 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:40.359 All right, let's get it started. A game day edition 13 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:43.679 of Coffee and Company. 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Listen live on the iHeart Radio app. Also 26 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:18.959 listen live at seven ninety Louisville dot com nit Coffee. 27 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:19.840 That's me, mister Radio. 28 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.439 Rick Ryder alongside once again today and I guess we'll 29 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:27.519 just dive right into the news that came out really, 30 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:30.200 I think before six o'clock, but if you listened in 31 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:32.760 the five o'clock hour yesterday, we were out a little 32 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:35.480 bit earlier than we usually are because of a basketball game, 33 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:38.719 So it actually worked out to where, like, I don't 34 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:41.120 even really know what my reaction would have been if 35 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:42.719 I was still on the air when I saw that. 36 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:45.799 I mean, it wouldn't have been anything crazy. I wouldn't have, 37 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:47.840 you know, like lost my mind or done anything you 38 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:50.200 know that would get me fired. But I don't think 39 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:52.840 I you know, there were times yesterday where thinking about 40 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:56.840 how things played out with the lost to Stanford, like 41 00:01:56.920 --> 00:01:59.079 I just words couldn't come out of my mouth. I 42 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:03.599 couldn't speak. I was trying to process what I wanted 43 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:07.079 to say, and I just nothing was working. And it's 44 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:10.159 just because of how you know, insane that loss was. 45 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:16.919 But throughout the conversation we had yesterday and we talked 46 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:19.000 to a lot of different callers and it was a 47 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:23.159 pretty caller driven show, people just expressing their frustration sharing 48 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.800 what they think is, you know, really worrisome about the 49 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:28.000 way this season has gone, and it's not is if 50 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:30.280 things are, you know, I mean, let's be real, it 51 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:33.400 could be a lot worse. But it's also just been 52 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:36.680 really frustrating this year and the loss to Stanford and 53 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:40.159 the way it played out. I mean, that's probably the 54 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:45.120 most frustrated fans have been all year. And at times 55 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:49.840 you think to yourself, we can't make this up, no way. Well, 56 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.840 what we didn't get to discuss yesterday, which I'm sure 57 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:56.479 all of you are aware of now, is right in 58 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:59.520 there with the other things as far as you can't 59 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:07.639 make this up up. So Teyon Holloway, who is a 60 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:11.080 sophomore defensive back for Louisville, and I and I you know, 61 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:12.360 I'll be honest with you. 62 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:13.080 I feel like. 63 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:17.199 Before this news of him getting arrested and charged with 64 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:21.319 assault and strangulation, he was, until further notice, is going 65 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:24.599 to be known as the guy who you know, committed 66 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:28.319 the unthinkable penalty that cost you a game. Obviously a 67 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:34.120 lot of other mistakes and really a consistent pattern there 68 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:36.840 towards the end, just doing everything you could to give 69 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:39.280 Stanford the ability to win that game in regulation with 70 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.400 a field goal. I mean, as I said yesterday, I 71 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:43.159 think you could have you could have made the case 72 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:45.240 that they were strategically trying to do that. I know 73 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:47.360 they weren't, but I mean that's that's the way that 74 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:51.319 it played out. But he was flag for unsportsmanlike conduct 75 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:54.719 for a sideline shove, and you know that was that 76 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:57.360 was a big no no. I mean, that was one 77 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:00.639 of again many things, but that's like all the things 78 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:03.120 that seems to be maybe the most controllable. I don't know, 79 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:06.039 you can make the case that off sides is controllable, 80 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:08.240 but that's just a guy, you know, ready to go 81 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:11.240 make a play and he timed it incorrectly. But Tayon 82 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:15.199 Holloway again, we had somebody calling yesterday. This is actually 83 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:16.720 just now coming back to me now. We had somebody 84 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:19.920 calling yesterday that said that they're done with Louisville football 85 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:22.199 maybe forever. I think it might have been more so 86 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:25.519 just for they were done for the season. If that 87 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:28.720 guy plays another second because of just how egregious that 88 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:32.279 that mistake was and how silly it was. Well, this 89 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:36.120 guy whenever Louisville got back to town. The team got 90 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:39.759 back to town on Sunday evening, he then got himself 91 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:43.680 arrested seemingly within like an hour or so of being back. 92 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:45.959 So this is not something that came up yesterday on 93 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.759 the show, But if you listened to Jet Brown's press 94 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.360 conference yesterday, he talked about how they were not able 95 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:55.319 to get back to Louisville that night. And it's a 96 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:58.639 long flight anyway, but typically, you know, they load up 97 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:01.399 from the stadium and they make their way to some 98 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.199 airport to catch their chartered flight to get back to Louisville, 99 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:06.800 really regardless of where they are, and they were unable 100 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:10.000 to do that because the crew didn't have a full 101 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:12.639 staff and they had to stay tonight, and they didn't 102 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:15.199 land in Louisville till about eight o'clock. It sounds like, well, 103 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:19.240 after the team landed, Tan Holloway ended up making his 104 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:21.439 way back to I don't know if it was where 105 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:24.120 he lives here near campus or on campus or whatever, 106 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:28.279 but I'll just read for you the news that came out. 107 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:33.120 He was arrested on charges of felony strangulation and misdemeanor 108 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:38.720 domestic assault. He allegedly attacked a woman when she tried 109 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:42.160 to stop him from smoking marijuana about nine pm on 110 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:45.199 Sunday night. That's according to the police report, so they 111 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.160 claim in the police report. The details in the police 112 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:50.120 report claimed that he threw the woman off the bed 113 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.720 and struck her in the face with his fists. When 114 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:56.199 she tried to fight back, Holloway allegedly put a pillow 115 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:58.720 over her face, smothering her for about ten seconds before 116 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:00.480 attempting to throw her out the room. 117 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:01.120 Again. 118 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:03.560 This is all according to the details in the police report. 119 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:07.639 Police were dispatched to a call for service at an 120 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.680 apartment where they were and it was because at around 121 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:13.399 nine o'clock somebody called nine one one and hung up, 122 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:16.079 So of course that's something they got to check out. 123 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:18.240 They got to vet the situation to make sure everybody's okay, 124 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:21.279 and they showed up and it says here in this 125 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:24.160 right up from WDRB dot com. Again, this is all 126 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:26.920 according to the police report. That all parties inside the 127 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:31.399 apartment were initially uncooperative with officers, and the election victim 128 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:34.079 had a laceration on her upper lip and puffy eyes. 129 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:39.680 So he's pleaded not guilty in court. His bond was 130 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:44.199 set for ten thousand dollars. It's been posted, and UFL 131 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:47.079 did release a statement Monday saying that they're aware of 132 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:50.000 the arrest and that they're going to gather more information 133 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:52.759 and while they do that, he has been suspended indefinitely 134 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:55.240 from all team activities. He will be back in court 135 00:06:55.240 --> 00:07:01.000 on November twenty six. So, I mean, I know some 136 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:02.519 people are trying and I really don't get this, to 137 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:04.000 be honest with you, and if you you know, I 138 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:05.519 trust me. In no way am I saying this is 139 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:07.199 good news and not. 140 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:09.920 A big deal. Why are people upset? That is not 141 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:11.000 at all what I mean? 142 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:13.399 Anybody with that opinion, I would I would love to 143 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:15.720 hear how you came to that, because this is something 144 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.319 that you know is terrible. I mean, again, to be 145 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:20.920 fair to him, these are allegations made in a police report, 146 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:23.879 and you know he is he's deserved due process here 147 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:26.480 to see if he can. You know, maybe he's going 148 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:29.680 to dispute what is alleged and maybe charges kid drop. 149 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:33.480 We don't know, right and unfortunately this day and age, 150 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:36.360 there's rarely a all right, let's wait and see what 151 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:38.040 really happened kind of thing. And I look, I don't know, 152 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:39.639 maybe it's worse than what's in the police report. 153 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:40.439 I have no clue. 154 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:44.199 So you know, I wanted to give that disclaimer before 155 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:47.240 I say this, because I'm as upset as anybody about 156 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:50.079 the way things happen against Stanford. I mean, that was 157 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:52.680 just its really demoralizing, you know. In fact, the more 158 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:57.120 time that passes, the more you know, sad I get 159 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:59.600 about it. I mean, it's not you can do about 160 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:01.399 it now, and it is pretty pathetic that, you know, 161 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:07.240 what happens between you know, two college football teams across 162 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:10.120 the country impacts my morale so much. But you know, 163 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:12.639 I'm a I'm a lunatic for this stuff, like a 164 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:17.639 lot of you guys. So what I was dressing up 165 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:19.000 there before I say it because I don't want to 166 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:20.240 act in sensitive to the situation. 167 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:21.199 It's terrible, But. 168 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.199 Like, I don't think this makes that I don't think 169 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:25.439 this means that we've got like major problems within the 170 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:28.920 Louisville football program. Obviously, they've been pretty undisciplined this year, 171 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:31.759 and they make big mistakes that you just can't make. 172 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.679 I mean, clearly we talked all about that yesterday, and 173 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.279 in fact, more often than not this year, those have 174 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:40.600 been the conversations about the team and in the play 175 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:43.559 on the field. But this is absolutely an isolated incident, 176 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.600 right the things we've been complaining about when Jeff, since 177 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:48.360 Jeff Brahms got here, which, to be honest with you, 178 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:51.879 we really haven't done that much complaining in the grand 179 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:55.039 scheme of things. Obviously losing games like they've lost this year, 180 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:58.679 the way it's happened, this team being pretty undisciplined, I mean, 181 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.000 that's been frustrating, But like as far as off the 182 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:02.879 field stuff where you have to worry about, you know, 183 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:05.679 like the culture, and I mean, this is this is 184 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:10.600 an isolated thing, and that makes it to where like, yeah, 185 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:13.320 this stinks, and who knows, wouldn't be shocked if this 186 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.320 guy never plays here again, especially you know, if if 187 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:20.000 he ends up pleading guilty in what was alleged in 188 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:23.759 the police report is actually true and he pleads guilty 189 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:25.039 to it, then maybe he never plays here again. 190 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:27.120 I don't know, none of us know, but. 191 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:31.320 I don't think that this means that, like Louisville football man, 192 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.960 things just are getting terrible when it rains, it pours, 193 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:37.039 because this really has nothing to I mean, again, I 194 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:39.320 don't want to sound like the hey, what's the big 195 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.480 deal guy, because that's not really what I mean. This 196 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:45.639 is something serious, but I don't think this is a 197 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.279 sign that you've got this kind of stuff to worry 198 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:52.360 about moving forward. So again, not the kind of news 199 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:55.559 you want your football program to be associated with in 200 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:59.000 any way under any circumstance, but especially whenever you know 201 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:02.399 you're coming off of a law that ripped the heart 202 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:06.000 out of a lot of us like Saturdays did. But 203 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:11.240 again really two completely separate type of things. But again 204 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:14.240 never never good news if you really really think about it. 205 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:18.039 All right, we are gonna be joined coming up around 206 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:20.759 four thirty by mister C. L. Brown of the Courier 207 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:23.000 Journal get his thoughts on a lot of things, like 208 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:25.399 we do each and every week. Cels become now regular guests. 209 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:27.480 You know, he he called me out whenever I was 210 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:30.759 in Charlotte at the ACC tip off and he was there, 211 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:32.720 and he was you know, I was, I was gassing 212 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:34.320 him up on the air. How it just blew my 213 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:38.240 mind that everybody who was anybody to know in Charlotte 214 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:40.679 at the acc tip off the a SEC basketball media days. 215 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:43.200 If you're not familiar with with what that is, they 216 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.480 all knew cel. I mean, he's been around covering college 217 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.399 hoops for a long time. He spent a lot of 218 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:50.799 time covering North Carolina's program once he left Louisville. 219 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:51.720 Now he's back in Louisville. 220 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:53.159 But like he was, he was the guy to know, 221 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:56.039 like coaches coming up, dapping him up, and you know, 222 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:57.480 he was like, why don't you have me on the 223 00:10:57.480 --> 00:10:58.000 show anymore? 224 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:00.159 And I'm like, well, okay, we can do that. I 225 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:00.519 thought he was. 226 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:01.919 I thought he was kind of big time for us. 227 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:04.120 But if he's willing to give us his time each week, 228 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:05.679 which he's been very nice to do in the last 229 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:08.000 few weeks, we'll certainly bring him in. So he'll join 230 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:10.840 us at four thirty and other than that, we've got 231 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:12.039 you guys, So if you want to join us on 232 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:14.000 the show, you can. We will open up the phone 233 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:16.720 lines coming up here after our first break. Five oh two, 234 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:19.039 five seven, one seventy nine hundred is the number if 235 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.279 you guys would like to uh to jump in and 236 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:22.679 give us a call. You can also text in on 237 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:24.679 the Ellen and Federal Credit Union text line five O 238 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:29.279 two sixty five to three zero seven ninety and tonight's 239 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:30.159 matchup against Bellerman. 240 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:31.200 We'll certainly talk about that. 241 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:32.679 I don't know if there's gonna be a whole lot 242 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:35.960 of really previewing the game itself. Uh, you know, I 243 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:38.279 think we kind of have a feeling for the way 244 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:41.320 Scott Davenport's teams are going to play, and uh, they're 245 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:43.120 having a rough start. Louisville is twenty eight and a 246 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:45.440 half point favorites against Bellerman tonight, and I'll give you 247 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:48.279 some things that I hope to see that'll give you, 248 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:50.720 I guess, you know, some good pregame coverage if you will. However, 249 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:53.919 this won't be much of a test, and if it 250 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:56.600 is a really big test, then I would say that, 251 00:11:56.759 --> 00:12:00.360 you know, that would not be a good night. That 252 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:02.600 will also lead me right back to where I often 253 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:04.679 end up when it comes to games like this, and 254 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:06.440 that is the fact that I hate games like this, 255 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:08.480 because yeah, it's good, it's a good feel. You know, 256 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:12.000 we're very familiar with Scott Davenport. He's a Louisville legend. 257 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:14.720 And Bellerman. I'm not gonna act like I watch a 258 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:16.720 whole lot of Bellerman games, but I want him to 259 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:17.039 do well. 260 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:17.840 I pull for him. 261 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:21.120 I'm a big supporter, big fan of coach Davenport, and 262 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:23.960 you know, that adds an element to it that you 263 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.799 don't get when you play teams like Moorhead State or 264 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.840 Popcorn State or whoever. But it's just really tough to 265 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:34.120 know if you're getting better in a game like this, 266 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:36.399 And that doesn't mean that you're not getting better. It's 267 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:39.759 just impossible to know. You know, if the game's closer 268 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:44.440 in Louisville doesn't cover, maybe that means that you're regressing, 269 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:47.279 but you really have no way of knowing. So that's 270 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:49.080 why I've always said that when it comes to teams 271 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:51.200 that you know that are in the three hundreds in 272 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:53.720 the kin Palm and the net or whatever, like, it's just, 273 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:55.519 you know, I don't really don't know why you play 274 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:58.279 those games, which actually that's a conversation I do want 275 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:00.279 to get into a little bit later on. And I'm 276 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:02.960 not gonna try to sway anybody's opinion, but I've always 277 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:05.240 had this opinion and I've got pushback on it, and 278 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:08.519 that is that, like I'm not against playing Bellerman at all. 279 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:12.840 You know, why not you're gonna play morehead play Bellerman. 280 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:17.559 I'm not saying that they shouldn't play. I'm not upset 281 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:22.080 about it, but I also would totally understand if whoever 282 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.840 takes over this program, which now it's Pat Kelsey, and 283 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:26.840 I have no way of knowing what he's gonna do. 284 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:28.159 We'll let you guys hear a little bit about it. 285 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:30.120 He did talk at his press conference yesterday just about 286 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.240 his history with with coach Davenport, and of course Doug Davenport, 287 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:35.720 his son who Pat briefly hired at Winthrop only for 288 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:38.440 Rick Patino to offer Doug a job and and Doug 289 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:40.039 made it right back here to Louisville. So we'll let 290 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:41.679 you get We'll let you guys hear a lot about that. 291 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:44.120 And I think there's always been talk about will the 292 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:48.360 series continue, and I think the doubt of it happening 293 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:53.120 was because of Chris Mack not really being for it, 294 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.679 and that ended up being, you know, not a huge 295 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:58.559 talking point. But I don't think he you know, I 296 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:00.240 don't know if there was ever any press conference there 297 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:02.519 anything where he talked about it and said, yeah, we'll 298 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:04.360 never play them again or I never want to play them. 299 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:07.679 But if a coach did say, look, I'm going to 300 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:12.600 choose to schedule somebody other than Bellerman here, I would 301 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:17.320 totally understand why, Like Louisville playing Bellerman to Bellerman is 302 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:18.279 a gift to Bellerman. 303 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:19.919 I mean it is. 304 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:21.919 There's no and that's not I mean that that take 305 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:25.919 take any emotion or feeling out of what I just said. 306 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:28.600 It is a gift to play Bellermin. It's a gift 307 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:31.360 to play Morehead State. It's a gift to play these 308 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:35.000 other teams because again, they benefit from it, whereas you 309 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:40.399 really don't and you could mess around and lose. Louisville 310 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:43.320 lost to Bellerman a couple of years ago. We remember that, 311 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.240 don't we. I mean that was that was a nightmare. 312 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:49.279 And I think because of the situation, meaning the Kenny 313 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:52.200 Payne situation being as bad as it was, it didn't 314 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:55.960 really like live as I'll never forget when we lost 315 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.840 to Bellerman, who was brand new to Division one, because 316 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:02.519 Kenny Payne lost a team like that somewhat frequently. Therefore, 317 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:04.159 like it just got lost in the mix of all 318 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:08.720 the other bad losses that Kenny Payne had. So you know, again, 319 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:13.080 I'm not anti Bellerman by any means, but like if 320 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:17.440 Pat Kelsey decided, Okay, after this this game, we're gonna 321 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:21.559 move on and go in a different direction, and you know, 322 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:24.080 schedule somebody differently. We're going to make sure we don't 323 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:27.000 schedule teams that are in the three hundreds of the 324 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:29.240 Ken Palm or the net. We're gonna go after teams 325 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:31.279 that are more so, you know, in the mid two 326 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:35.120 hundreds or better. Because what happens with Bellerman here. And 327 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.360 I don't want to nerd out on the analytics, but look, 328 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.679 analytics matter now when it comes to seating, and coaches 329 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.080 are paying attention to that kind of stuff. You play 330 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:47.279 a team like Bellerman at times, it makes it damn 331 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:50.240 near impossible for you to do anything other than fall 332 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:53.799 in these metrics and these analytics because you're supposed to 333 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.480 beat them by this insane number, and if you don't, 334 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:58.960 you're gonna fall. Now, maybe there's a chance that it 335 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:01.559 ends up evening out when you get later on in 336 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:03.840 the year. And you know, I mean again, I don't 337 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:05.480 want to act like it's you can never do it, 338 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:08.600 it'll kill your season, but coaches are going to continue 339 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:12.840 to be more mindful of these numbers. And I just 340 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:16.519 think teams that are that are in that range are 341 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:20.759 gonna have a tough time getting Power five type opponents 342 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:24.480 to schedule them because there's really no beneficial situation other 343 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:27.639 than being able to say you added a win, but 344 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:30.879 the win actually again, and that's that's that's my biggest gripe, 345 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:34.320 and it's been my biggest gripe about these these different formulas. 346 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.000 Rather it be college football, college basketball. You've got the FPI, 347 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:40.240 the Football Power Index for ESPN, You've got the net 348 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:43.600 rankings for the NC double A. I mean, hell, you 349 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:45.559 still got BCS if you want to go there. I mean, 350 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:47.679 people don't use it anymore as far as determining who 351 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:49.440 makes the playoff or anything like that, but it's still 352 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:51.799 out there. It still exists, the sagger and all that stuff, 353 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:54.559 and they never factor in winning and losing enough, they 354 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:59.600 factor in you know, how competitive it was. So you 355 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:02.559 can get a W on your win column against a 356 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:04.960 team of this caliber, but if you don't beat their 357 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:09.240 brains in, then you actually don't. Mean again, the number 358 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:12.000 shows that you added a win and not a loss. 359 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:14.599 But in whatever formula you want a reference, when it 360 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:19.160 comes to college basketball, you probably fell. So again, I 361 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:21.279 just would love when people say it's good for the city. 362 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:23.200 I don't really disagree because there's a lot of people 363 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:26.200 that are feeling good today. This this game gives them 364 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.680 more excitement and more anticipation to be there, to be 365 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:33.680 a part of it than if Louisville was playing you know, Rio, 366 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.319 Grand Valley State or something like that. But if a 367 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:40.400 coach decided like, hey, I'm gonna not do it, and 368 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:43.039 here's why, I think they have every right to do it. 369 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:45.680 And I don't think it would be a huge issue 370 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:49.160 to where you know, Louisville fans would be would be irate. 371 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:51.359 But I do think some people would say, we why 372 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.359 would you not play it? Well, I just told you 373 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:54.960 that's why you wouldn't play it. And if you say, well, 374 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:56.960 that's silly, that's your opinion, and that's fine, you know, 375 00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:59.319 because again I'm not telling you that you play a 376 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:02.240 team like this, you won't make the tournament because they're 377 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.119 just going to bring down your resume so much. It's 378 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.119 not that, but man coaches are gonna fo coaches, especially 379 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:10.680 coaches like Pat Kelsey. He's very much driven by numbers analytics, 380 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:13.680 which is why he plays the style he plays. So 381 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:17.440 I'm not trying to give anybody any kind of indication 382 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:20.000 that I think it's going to end. But I would 383 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.720 imagine the contract probably doesn't have a whole lot left 384 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:26.759 on it. And it just wouldn't shock me if they're 385 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:31.759 no longer a regular opponent for Louisville. And I think one, 386 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:34.480 I think Louisville fans would be bummed by that. 387 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:36.680 And if. 388 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:40.440 And it wouldn't shock me either if coach Davenport, you know, 389 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:43.000 made it clear in his own way that you know, 390 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:45.160 he was very disappointed that they're not going to play 391 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:49.480 the game anymore. But I would also understand the guy 392 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.640 whose job it is to have success here, his livelihood 393 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.519 is is certainly at stake. And and you know, and 394 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:58.119 I already know there's going to be some people that say, well, 395 00:18:58.160 --> 00:18:59.480 it can't be that big of a deal to where 396 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:02.039 you you maybe, look, that's your opinion, But it comes 397 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:04.400 down to what the coach wants to do. And I would, 398 00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:07.319 you know, I would respect his decision if he decided. Yeah, 399 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:10.680 love coach Davenport, love Bellerman, but we're just gonna, you know, 400 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:13.240 we're gonna, we're gonna schedule a team that in this 401 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:17.319