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<v Speaker 2>Dogmanencounters dot com forward slash podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so

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<v Speaker 2>much for joining us for another episode of Dogman Encounters Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Really appreciate you listening. Tonight's guest was featured on episode

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<v Speaker 2>five ninety seven, and because of how much detail there

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<v Speaker 2>was to his encounter, we didn't have time. We didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have close to enough time for medians them all the

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<v Speaker 2>questions I had for him, and also on top of

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<v Speaker 2>that too, I wanted to give the listeners in the

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<v Speaker 2>live chatted chance to ask them questions as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>What we planned to do was I planned to have

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<v Speaker 2>them come back on last week for a special episode,

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<v Speaker 2>but unfortunately his cable went down right before we were

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<v Speaker 2>scheduled air that show, that special midweek live stream episode.

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<v Speaker 2>So luckily that's all back up and running, so we're

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<v Speaker 2>able to bring them back on tonight well without any

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<v Speaker 2>further ado, let's bring that guest on now. James, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>so much for coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's a pleasure, pleasures.

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<v Speaker 2>All mine, James, For anyone who missed episode five ninety seven,

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<v Speaker 2>please tell them about yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's simple. Country boy from the country. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I moved to Texas, a big city of a

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<v Speaker 1>new experience for me, and I'm manager at Subway. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much it. I got a little bat dog and Zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, speaking of Zero, you sent me that picture of him.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was last Tuesday, and he's absolutely adorable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna post his picture here and just debits everybody

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<v Speaker 2>in the live chat. Everyone who watches the YouTube version

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<v Speaker 2>of the show can see him. But I can understand

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<v Speaker 2>why you love him the way you do. Oh yes, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's something else. James. When you sat up and locked

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<v Speaker 2>eyes with that dog men that was staring at you

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<v Speaker 2>through the window that night, what did you see in

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<v Speaker 2>his eyes? Did you see fear, anger or curiosity?

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<v Speaker 1>Curiosity? It looked like it was just as surprised as

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<v Speaker 1>I was, because I know when it was looking in there,

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<v Speaker 1>it couldn't see me. It could see my brother's laying

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<v Speaker 1>beside me, and probably the knees owned down to the

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<v Speaker 1>feet of my sister and my youngest brother. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know I could have seen my brother Tony Bark and

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<v Speaker 1>James and the older one his name James, also James

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<v Speaker 1>Evans Love and I knew I could see them, but

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<v Speaker 1>it couldn't see me. So when I set up, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure I surprised it just as much as it

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<v Speaker 1>surprised me.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't you say that your news to news with that

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<v Speaker 2>dog man for about forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Minutes qualty five minutes less than I put an a

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<v Speaker 1>half away from that thing. I watched that thing and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't move, It didn't move, and we just I

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<v Speaker 1>was just locked. It was like I was paralyzed, like

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<v Speaker 1>it was paradized. I couldn't I couldn't believe it. I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying everything in the book to make out what

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<v Speaker 1>it was, but nothing, nothing clicking. Back then that time

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighties, that was I've never seen anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I'm sure you hadn't you know, when you're

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<v Speaker 2>going through your encyclopedia of what it could have possibly been,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing would fit, nothing would match anything like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I can only imagine the thoughts that were going through

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<v Speaker 2>your head. But talking about what you saw in its eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were locking eyes with it for forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>In most cases, eyewitnesses are going to report a shift

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<v Speaker 2>from one type of emotion in its size to the next,

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<v Speaker 2>and then to the next, maybe curiosity at one point,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you're steering me. You're steering daggers in my eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>anger because you're challenging me, and then maybe cooling down

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit and back to curiosity or some other emotion.

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<v Speaker 2>You never saw any shift like that in its eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no shift whatsoever. Nothing moved on it. After

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<v Speaker 1>his ears went back and his eyes followed me when

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<v Speaker 1>I laid back down to it at an anger, I

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<v Speaker 1>nearly laid on top of one of my brothers. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about it changed. It was just standing wonder looking at me.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing moved with his eyes following me as

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<v Speaker 1>I laid back, and it was no anger, no nothing

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<v Speaker 1>like it was just like it was surprised. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like curious, and I'm I'm pretty sure I had the

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<v Speaker 1>same look in my eyes. I'm trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what it was, and I'm thinking, you know, it's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what I am. And I say, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I wasn't scared, because it is no teeth

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<v Speaker 1>showing nothing, no growling, no aggressive movement. Eyes would basically

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<v Speaker 1>like zero the calm.

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<v Speaker 2>It's curious when it comes to having dogman encounters. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you hit the lottery as far as the dog

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<v Speaker 2>man that came to pee a visit that night, because

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<v Speaker 2>most of them had, they would have had a captive audience.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right there, nose to know, nos to nose with it.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have pushed all sorts of your buttons. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that dog me, I thank goodness, it didn't do any.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that, none of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really good now. I know you say when you

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<v Speaker 2>first locked eyes with it, that had its ears pin

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<v Speaker 2>At any point of that forty five minutes, did it

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<v Speaker 2>ever put its ears back up?

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<v Speaker 1>It ears never went back up. When I set up,

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<v Speaker 1>what I noticed first was its hands. That's what was

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<v Speaker 1>checking on that one thing like digitive, and that what

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<v Speaker 1>woke me up. And I set up, and as my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes adjifted, I seen the hands stop. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>the ears went back, and that's what caught my attention

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<v Speaker 1>for the second thing that moves E went back And

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<v Speaker 1>from that moment until I watched it for those forty

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<v Speaker 1>five fifty minutes until that the rest of the two

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<v Speaker 1>hours I watched it. As I laid back, the ears

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<v Speaker 1>never came back up. They stayed pent backwards, that could

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<v Speaker 1>be see them come back up.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be seen two ways. Obviously, if you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a dog or a horus, if they pin their ears,

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<v Speaker 2>normally that's a sign of anger. But it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>use it Zerrus for information gathering. Well, you're right there,

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<v Speaker 2>within less than a foot and a half from it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to make any noise, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to see that you're making a noise, So

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't need it serious for that. Maybe it pended

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<v Speaker 2>Seers just because of the intensity of the moment. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't think for this thing. All I can do is

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<v Speaker 2>just gues and as we go through tonight's show, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna try to put any words into your mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the last thing I'd want to do. So when

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<v Speaker 2>I ask you about things like this, yeah, just tell

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<v Speaker 2>me what you experienced and I'll do the best I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot to influence you. But maybe it pended Zeers. What

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting at here is maybe it pended Seers because

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't want to intimidate you, maybe or just because

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<v Speaker 2>of no other reason than it didn't need it. Zeos.

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<v Speaker 2>It had you right there nose to nose with it,

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<v Speaker 2>so there wasn't really any need to listen.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe that's what's behind it, like I say, Zero,

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<v Speaker 3>But like I say, the ears went back in the back,

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<v Speaker 3>back head, and that you may be right, and they

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<v Speaker 3>probably right at times.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero pennies is back is a little angry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that just had to be through the roof. It

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<v Speaker 2>really must have been. Not all, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>my witnesses who've been that close to a dog man

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<v Speaker 2>as you were for all that time, they reported an

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<v Speaker 2>unusual quality that the dog man's rettinas had. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>notice anything strange, any strange qualities about its rettinas when

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<v Speaker 2>you were that close to it? I know you said

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<v Speaker 2>it had eyes pretty close to Zero's, only quite a

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<v Speaker 2>bit larger, But did you notice anything strange unusual about

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<v Speaker 2>its retinas?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing strange about it? Blackish brown eyes and when I say,

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<v Speaker 1>it looked exactly like Zero eyes and you can see

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit of white in them on both

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<v Speaker 1>corners of his eye and a limit in the between

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<v Speaker 1>it which knows was and that was it and it

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<v Speaker 1>eyes was just basically like Zero's. A German shepherd like

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<v Speaker 1>eyes or what not? A German shepherd. What's that down

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<v Speaker 1>called guene yes? Not to know? Not that GWEENI A.

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<v Speaker 1>I had one of those starts, a long time golden retriever.

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<v Speaker 1>I was similar like that, and zero eyes are similar

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<v Speaker 1>to a golden retriever.

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<v Speaker 2>Why you really did looking? You really did hit the

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<v Speaker 2>lottery when it comes to dog men. Yeah, you definitely

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<v Speaker 2>hit the lottery because in almost every other case it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a lot more intense than that. Thank goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't more intense.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, one thing I can tell you, I am

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<v Speaker 1>awesome with dogs. I own at least thirty dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>I could pretty much make them do anything I want.

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<v Speaker 1>They just loved me. I had so many of them,

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<v Speaker 1>like Zero he sleeps with me, and I had when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in every day father live my well, my

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother left my dad side, and I had dogs. I

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<v Speaker 1>tell them go do this, and they pretty much don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. It's almost if they understood me. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I wasn't aggressive toward it, So maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, Okay, we're just gonna look at each

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<v Speaker 1>other until somebody gives up.

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<v Speaker 2>Normally, if these guys, they don't care if you're aggressive

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<v Speaker 2>or not, they're gonna just do all they can to

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<v Speaker 2>push your buttons and mortify you to within an inch

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<v Speaker 2>of your life. That's why I'm saying, you really hit

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<v Speaker 2>the lottery. When it comes to dogmen. You could have

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<v Speaker 2>had an encounter with Thank goodness, like I said, for

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<v Speaker 2>that as well, and as far as you being good

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<v Speaker 2>with dogs, that's great. But when it comes to these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to tell you. We don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>much of that crosses over to them. Maybe somebody can

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<v Speaker 2>be great with dogs, but I really doubt that anybody's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be able to count on being good with dog men.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think. I don't think that could be

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<v Speaker 2>the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even, like I said this from here around

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<v Speaker 1>like you say, I must have hit the lottery, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty much glad I did. I mean, if that

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<v Speaker 1>thing would have been growning or did anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I can only think back. I don't know, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta gen ride up what I would have done. It

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<v Speaker 1>would have what's some fear in me and to see

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<v Speaker 1>something that you don't know what it is, and I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't figure it out because like I said, it had

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<v Speaker 1>its head down and I couldn't really make out that

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<v Speaker 1>snock until Zero help had his head down, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, that's what I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like I said, I can only imagine what must

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<v Speaker 2>have been going through your mind at the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>understandably so. Now you said that depended zeros right from

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<v Speaker 2>the start. But was there somehow, some way that you

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<v Speaker 2>got to beat on how long it's serious might have been?

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<v Speaker 1>It is. I would put them as long long as

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<v Speaker 1>my hands, because when I looked up I saw them

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<v Speaker 1>going back. I would put this ear at about seven

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's pretty long. That's pretty close to as long

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<v Speaker 2>as a mule.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty long when I see him, and the

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<v Speaker 1>way they went back, I'm like, okay, look, could have

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<v Speaker 1>been like two horns. I wasn't thinking about horns then

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<v Speaker 1>on I think I seen was a brown ere coolor

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<v Speaker 1>zeros go back. But they were more pointed than Zero's ears.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just amazing, it really is. Did this ear seem

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<v Speaker 2>to be on the sides of its head or more

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<v Speaker 2>on top?

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<v Speaker 1>It was more on top of his head, more on

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<v Speaker 1>the top, further up than zeros would be basically proper

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<v Speaker 1>above his eyes. If you take it and take both.

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<v Speaker 1>His eyes would pretty wide apart and go up those

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<v Speaker 1>ears nearly level with his eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>So pretty much the same positioning as a German shepherd.

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<v Speaker 2>Then yes, okay, well, I see that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 2>I expected. Did it have its mouth open or closed

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<v Speaker 2>at the time?

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<v Speaker 1>If mouth stayed closed the entire time, never open, his

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<v Speaker 1>mouth never showed any teeth or nothing. Yes, stood there

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<v Speaker 1>looking at me frozen.

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<v Speaker 2>So if he kept his mouth closed the whole time

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<v Speaker 2>and it never showed its teeth. With a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>dog men, even though their mouths are closed, you can

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<v Speaker 2>still see their canines protruding, it sounds like you never

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<v Speaker 2>saw anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, maybe they would have been protruded. But like I say,

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<v Speaker 1>its head was down, and it had it down like this,

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<v Speaker 1>all I could see was the black tip of its

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<v Speaker 1>nose at the bottom of the window and his nose

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<v Speaker 1>going leading them up into his eyes, And I like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if it had his nose out straight out, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she may have been protruding out Kate and I might

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<v Speaker 1>have been sticking out. But like I said, it was

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<v Speaker 1>face to face and I was looking at it face

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<v Speaker 1>down and never see any teeth. Glad, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I bet you are glad. I'm glad you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see any either. That wouldn't have been good at all.

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<v Speaker 2>When it held its head down in a posture where

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<v Speaker 2>it was almost looking through its eyebrows at you. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if a dog men his eyebrows or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they don't. But anyway, had that head down posture.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you get the impression that did that, because if

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<v Speaker 2>it would have had its muzzle up pointing straight at you,

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<v Speaker 2>that it would have had a hard time keeping both

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<v Speaker 2>eyes on you. Or do you think it kept his

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<v Speaker 2>head down so it was less intimidating to this little boy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I guarantee you kept his head down because of

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<v Speaker 1>the snout that I know now was too long for

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<v Speaker 1>it to be that close. So it had to put

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<v Speaker 1>it snap down because, like I said, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>very small one and pretty much if it snout was up,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been sitting back. It would have been

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<v Speaker 1>back a lot further from that window. So so his

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<v Speaker 1>hand is snapped down, it's closer with his eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right. Yeah, So if it's eighteen inches away

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<v Speaker 2>from you, that makes sense. Then its forehead was probably

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<v Speaker 2>nine inches from the glass, and your face was probably

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<v Speaker 2>nine inches so that does make sense. If it had

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<v Speaker 2>its head up, it couldn't have been that close.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope. Wow, And that's what tricked me. That's what tricked me.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't at first. I didn't recognize the snout until,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, when Zero didn't, and it took me

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<v Speaker 1>back to that night, just as if I was there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, okay, and I remember the snout down,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the tip of the black nose, perfect example.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd say it must have been. Before I go

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<v Speaker 2>any further with the questioning, I want to post a

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<v Speaker 2>picture of your main man here, Zero, so I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see him there.

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<v Speaker 1>He is. How old is he that? He's two years old?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's adorable, he really is.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly how that thing had his head down

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and I was looking at it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can only imagine the thoughts going through her head.

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<v Speaker 2>But I can't say that enough. I said that a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times, and I just can't say it enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't only imagine what that must have been like.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I gotta say I got that thing now that

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<v Speaker 1>when I say it's trunk down and I got him,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I that would always tell myself if you

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<v Speaker 1>shrunk down and came back to me.

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<v Speaker 2>That is amazing. So the same proportions everything, the length

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<v Speaker 2>of its ears to the size of its head, everything

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<v Speaker 2>was the same, pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Much, pretty much the same. It just giganic. Just takes

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<v Speaker 1>zero head and sharp nose hills a little bit, put

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<v Speaker 1>them a little closer inward, and make his head the

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<v Speaker 1>side of a probably a basketball with a football sticking

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. And you got that thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So the same eye color, same nose color, everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye had the black nose like it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit dark and you see a little brownish song I

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<v Speaker 1>guess on zero note. But his nose was solid black

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<v Speaker 1>and nose scratches of anything had that. And fir was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>It was nice. Peanut butter cardboard colored was not. It

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<v Speaker 1>just just seemed like it was groomed. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>got me. I'm looking at something up there, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I wasn't scared, because it didn't look shaggy,

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<v Speaker 1>raggedy or it beat up with muddy and nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It just like it was a well groomed Maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>body wasn't, but I didn't see that wish I would have,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't see the body.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the strange, many strange things about these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So many incredible eyewitnesses, such as yourself, they report that

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<v Speaker 2>just left the groomers look to them where they're first perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Others see nasty ones, that kind of mangey, but a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them report that that the dog men they

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<v Speaker 2>saw were just clean. It really makes you wonder how

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<v Speaker 2>that could be. But even though we wonder how that

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<v Speaker 2>can possibly be, it seems like that's a pretty common thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is what it is. Yeah, it is. Now

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<v Speaker 2>this might seem like a strange question, but you were

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<v Speaker 2>so close to its face. You're the perfect person to

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<v Speaker 2>ask at any time. Did you ever notice if it

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<v Speaker 2>had any whiskers or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see any. Quis good if it did. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like I say, once I looked up and seen the

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<v Speaker 1>blacken up his nose, and his ears went back, and

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<v Speaker 1>my eye automatically went back to its eyes, and from

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<v Speaker 1>that moment on we locked eyes. I see. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I could see my peripheral vision the face and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but the eyes were the most important thing I was looking.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just looking at his eyes, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>looking at me. It never took his eyes off me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I took my eyes off for in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. See was anybody else waking up? And

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<v Speaker 1>looked over at that clock and shifted my eyes slowly back,

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<v Speaker 1>still looking at me. Didn't moved a muscle, nothing moved.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it fighting me in moved. I didn't know, because,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I didn't see it. But his head

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<v Speaker 1>never moved. Its hands never moved again, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>hands like zero, but longer, a lot longer.

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<v Speaker 2>You can say a lot of things about that dog, men,

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<v Speaker 2>but one thing you can't say is that he was

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<v Speaker 2>some comfortable with eye contact. Have you kept eye contact

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<v Speaker 2>with you the whole time, all forty five minutes? That

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<v Speaker 2>says it all?

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<v Speaker 1>Right there?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, it really does. Now you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>really good look at its hands you just said. Was

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<v Speaker 2>there anything notable though about its fingers that you noticed?

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<v Speaker 1>They were long and bent bent inwards? It had because

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<v Speaker 1>we were scratching. I seen them as it was still scratching.

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<v Speaker 1>The screen was pretty much torn and gone. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a little window. It couldn't open this little small window,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess it had tore through the screen. And

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<v Speaker 1>what woke me up is when it started tapping on

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<v Speaker 1>the window. So the way its fingers were, both of

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<v Speaker 1>them were up there and they was bent forward. When

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<v Speaker 1>I looked up and it just frozed both fingers, both

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<v Speaker 1>hands was in the same position, just really long, folded

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<v Speaker 1>over like that, and it frowed just it just froke,

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<v Speaker 1>froze out, and it looked at me. The only other

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<v Speaker 1>movement it made one it went back. That was it

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<v Speaker 1>brown hand that you see, a sharp brown furt like

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<v Speaker 1>it's net here Zero's trying to jump up on the bed,

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<v Speaker 1>but just like he has just stretched out so long.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way that little seal came up on the window,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see if it had. I'm sure it did

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<v Speaker 1>because they tore that screen, but I didn't see that

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<v Speaker 1>any claw or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I put some thought into whether I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you this or not, and I think I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to ask you at anytime after having that experience, James,

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<v Speaker 2>do you ever start to wonder how many times how

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<v Speaker 2>many nights you were laying in bed and I paid

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<v Speaker 2>your visit, but you didn't know about that.

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<v Speaker 1>From that night forward, every time we visited back up then,

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<v Speaker 1>like I say, I always slept over there by that window.

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<v Speaker 1>I made it my business to lay at an angle,

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<v Speaker 1>and I washed that window until I fell asleep. And

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<v Speaker 1>I used to think, even to this day, I think

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<v Speaker 1>how many times that thing washed up in that I know,

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<v Speaker 1>how many time it washed my grandparents, my mother in

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<v Speaker 1>the other room. How many time it's been down there

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<v Speaker 1>by that corn and was just washing up, pushing those

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<v Speaker 1>tires and playing cops and robbers or down there in

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<v Speaker 1>that ditch. I mean, how many time it's been watching

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<v Speaker 1>the mister l who stayed about one hundred yards up

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<v Speaker 1>in my grandfather and it's fun about six hundred yards down.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times it had it been to their house

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<v Speaker 1>as a visited any you know those three houses, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it want a little bit further up, but it

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<v Speaker 1>just shocking to say, okay, we've been down here at night.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be outside by myself at night, just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on the hood of my mama car looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs. How many time would I think behind the

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<v Speaker 1>shed looking at me, could have been opening that ditch

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<v Speaker 1>looking at me. It didn't know, but it put me

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<v Speaker 1>on the alert.

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<v Speaker 2>Ill bet it did. Back to the hands there, James,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the joints of its fingers. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a long time so you probably don't remember this,

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<v Speaker 2>but did you buy chance notice anything about it joints

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<v Speaker 2>that seemed a little off that you can remember.

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<v Speaker 1>It's joints. It was like almost like three joints were

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<v Speaker 1>to the hand, like it could bend it. Well. We

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<v Speaker 1>got on our fingers about an inch the little slot

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of it, and it was so long.

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<v Speaker 1>It just looked like just stretching the dogs all out

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<v Speaker 1>and almost like it's formed a hand, like it just

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<v Speaker 1>a dog paul so big that I don't know of

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<v Speaker 1>the actual hands, but they reassemble basically my hands, just

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred times long with color. I'm about to saying

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<v Speaker 1>close zero and its paws just stretch them out and

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<v Speaker 1>I could see they was just long and bent over

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<v Speaker 1>like it was almost a fist, about half a fist.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like this right here, but three times

423
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<v Speaker 1>longer than mine.

424
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do have big hands. I don't know if

425
00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:58.640
<v Speaker 2>you knew this or not, but the really big ones

426
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<v Speaker 2>twelve footer. It can have hens as big as a

427
00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:01.759
<v Speaker 2>trash can lead.

428
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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, they were big.

429
00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all no doubt. They get really big yeah, that's

430
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<v Speaker 2>big enough to reach around your waist almost to pick

431
00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:18.119
<v Speaker 2>you up. Yes, yeah, that's too big. Right there after

432
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.920
<v Speaker 2>the fact, you and your brother thought about the possibility,

433
00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:23.640
<v Speaker 2>But did you think about how easily that dogged man

434
00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:26.079
<v Speaker 2>could have come into your house broken into your house

435
00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:28.279
<v Speaker 2>before you fell back to sleep that night.

436
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<v Speaker 1>The only thing I was thinking about as I laid back,

437
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it was an outhouse back there, and

438
00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>my grandmother and my mom they wouldn't go out there.

439
00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:43.599
<v Speaker 1>They had a pan or that they were even lead themselves.

440
00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:46.680
<v Speaker 1>But my grandfather and me and my older brother, we'd

441
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<v Speaker 1>take our younger brother that they need to go use

442
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:51.039
<v Speaker 1>the our house, and we go out of ourselves solo.

443
00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Me and my older brother called like I said, we

444
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<v Speaker 1>didn't was scaling nothing. But at that time, I was like,

445
00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I hope I don't hear that back go open, because

446
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I know if either my granddad's going out or I

447
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>could tell if my brother's going oucause he was the

448
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>end of the bed, that it would have had to

449
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<v Speaker 1>be my granddad. And I would have jumped up then

450
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and said, okay, don't don't go out. There's something out there.

451
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<v Speaker 1>And I was just hoping that none of my siblings

452
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:17.440
<v Speaker 1>woke up, especially the younger one that called, it would

453
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:20.279
<v Speaker 1>have been a panic. They'd have seen that thing. And

454
00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I know, especially the youngest one, if you set up

455
00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>one of other name with my sister, he would have

456
00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:29.920
<v Speaker 1>went to screaming and what's that thing? Any wonder? And

457
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:32.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what would have happened.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Thankingnes that didn't happen, although that dog man really does

459
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>seem like it was one heck of a cool, calm,

460
00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:42.519
<v Speaker 2>customary dog man. So even if they would have woke

461
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:45.440
<v Speaker 2>up and started screaming, I don't think it would have

462
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>done anything dangerous like that. But then again, I can't

463
00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:50.839
<v Speaker 2>think for these things. All I can do is guess.

464
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:55.319
<v Speaker 2>That's all I can do. Now we've already established the

465
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 2>fact that you two remained locked face to face for

466
00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:02.359
<v Speaker 2>about forty five minutes. But as far as you locking

467
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:05.039
<v Speaker 2>eyes with it and staying locked with it that long,

468
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.240
<v Speaker 2>was that because you weren't afraid of breaking the window

469
00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:11.079
<v Speaker 2>and grabbing you or was it for another reason?

470
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I wasn't afraid to cause, like I say, the

471
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.440
<v Speaker 1>side of that window it probably could have been big,

472
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>as it would probably could have knocked that in time

473
00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:21.400
<v Speaker 1>side that being a little walls of the house. But

474
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>at that time, being so young and not really knowing

475
00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:27.599
<v Speaker 1>what it was, the side of that window. If it

476
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:29.519
<v Speaker 1>would have broke that window, the only thing he could

477
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:31.039
<v Speaker 1>have put it. Couldn't even put his head in there.

478
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:32.880
<v Speaker 1>It would have been able to just put his arms

479
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:35.079
<v Speaker 1>in there. One of his arm probably could have came

480
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>in there, but as far as it would have went,

481
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>and I would have just scurried on over to the

482
00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>other side of the bed. And like I say, I

483
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.519
<v Speaker 1>knew I seen it in the window, and I knew

484
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>it couldn't get in that window to me at that

485
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.039
<v Speaker 1>time because of the smallness of that window. It could

486
00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:49.640
<v Speaker 1>have easily got in one of those back doors. But

487
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>like I say, it didn't seem to me like it

488
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:53.079
<v Speaker 1>went anywhere near the fact because it was still in

489
00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the window. And like we had two loaded shotguns on

490
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:58.160
<v Speaker 1>the end of the bed down there, and I could

491
00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:00.279
<v Speaker 1>have got to them shotguns far before UD have got

492
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:02.759
<v Speaker 1>to that. Well, I don't know how fast I heard

493
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:04.759
<v Speaker 1>it really fast, but as far as it getting in

494
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that back door, I'm pretty sure me and my brother

495
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>had those shotguns in our hands before it comes through

496
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 1>that door. And if it would have buffeted that winder,

497
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:13.759
<v Speaker 1>he could have just only stuck his hand in there.

498
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:15.319
<v Speaker 1>That's as far as I knew.

499
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 2>If it would have come to that door. I'm not

500
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:21.079
<v Speaker 2>too sure that the guns would have kept you saved

501
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:23.880
<v Speaker 2>from it. It's hard to say. Sometimes guns are effective,

502
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:27.079
<v Speaker 2>sometimes they aren't. I'm just so glad. I'm tickled pink

503
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:31.880
<v Speaker 2>that you never had to find out. Thank goodness, me too.

504
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad. Like I say, we, like I said, get

505
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>that young age and they have the boat like a

506
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>shotgun and brother had a revelation twelve gage pump action shotgun.

507
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:42.839
<v Speaker 1>And when I say, at that age, and we were

508
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.400
<v Speaker 1>thinking we were indestructible anywhere, we were like a thing

509
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>because the gun could stop anything. And that's pretty much

510
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>what really kept me from really panicing of being afraid.

511
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I don't fear pretty much nothing but

512
00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:00.519
<v Speaker 1>a catfish. But I wasn't scared because, like I say,

513
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.799
<v Speaker 1>it didn't show any aggression at all, and that pretty

514
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:05.680
<v Speaker 1>much kept me calm on, like, Okay, this thing is

515
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>looking at me whatever it is, and everything I know,

516
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm wope.

517
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<v Speaker 2>Well, you deserve a lot of credit, James for holding

518
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:16.559
<v Speaker 2>it together. Because very few people could have held it

519
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:19.920
<v Speaker 2>together close as well as you did. Most people they'd

520
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 2>be sucking soup through a straw the rest of their lives.

521
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.759
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you had that experience, a really intense experiences,

522
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.839
<v Speaker 2>not because of how the dog man behaved, but eighteen

523
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:32.160
<v Speaker 2>inches or less from that dog man face to face

524
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:36.160
<v Speaker 2>with it for forty five minutes, that's still intense, and

525
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:38.799
<v Speaker 2>you're still holding it down. So, like I said, you

526
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>deserve a lot of credit for that because you've done something.

527
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 2>You're doing something that very few people could do.

528
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Also, my brother, like I think, when he told me,

529
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>like I say, I'm chalking up as a dream. The

530
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>next morning he told me, did you see that thing

531
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.279
<v Speaker 1>in the window? So evidently it really didn't, you know,

532
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 1>put too much of fear in him, because, like I said,

533
00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>he saw it at some point when he saw it

534
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 1>before I woke up, Well, he saw it after I

535
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.920
<v Speaker 1>laid back or when I fell asleep. That we never

536
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:08.319
<v Speaker 1>discussed that. I don't know what time he saw it

537
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>or when he saw it, but I know he saw

538
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:10.559
<v Speaker 1>it too.

539
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd say that's undeniable there Before I go any further.

540
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>If you're in the live chat and have any questions

541
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 2>you want me to ask James for you, please type

542
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 2>it in all caps. That way I won't miss it. James,

543
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad your encounter didn't stop you from heading

544
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>back into the woods. But can you do that present

545
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:36.240
<v Speaker 2>day and enjoy yourself or are you still looking around

546
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:40.720
<v Speaker 2>and almost paranoid about the possibility that another dog man

547
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:41.519
<v Speaker 2>might be out there?

548
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>No, I go fishing. I go hunting. I got a

549
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:50.319
<v Speaker 1>friend that own a ranch, and we go out to

550
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:52.519
<v Speaker 1>his ranch and he got targeting and stuff that that,

551
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and we go out there and say in our shotguns

552
00:29:54.640 --> 00:30:00.279
<v Speaker 1>and rifles, and I mean about it's there. I want

553
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.319
<v Speaker 1>to start getting night time. But I'm looking around. But

554
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>like I say, I'm the type of prayerson I got

555
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>fully full company. I'm saying my weapons, not that I

556
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>would use them. I mean i'd rather, like I say,

557
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 1>the riffles I got in the shots I got, they

558
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>got infrared and they can also record, and I would

559
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>love to see one try to record it. As far

560
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:23.839
<v Speaker 1>as shooting it, note, I'm not I'm not gonna shoot

561
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:25.759
<v Speaker 1>one if if that's the last thing I want to do.

562
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I just want to put one of my knight business

563
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:29.799
<v Speaker 1>camp which I can actually take it off the gun

564
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and use it with my hands. I got several of

565
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:36.119
<v Speaker 1>them that I could do that with. But like I say,

566
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to see another I want to see a

567
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>full body. I just don't want to see their hands,

568
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:44.559
<v Speaker 1>ears and face. I want to see jif how big.

569
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I know they get big, and I know people describe

570
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>them seven to twelve foot time. I want to just

571
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:55.759
<v Speaker 1>see one fully riding bypassing by eighty miles an hour.

572
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I keep going, I just want to see one.

573
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<v Speaker 2>You never know, somebody down the road, you just might

574
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:05.400
<v Speaker 2>see another one. If you do have another encounter, though,

575
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:07.359
<v Speaker 2>I sure hope it's a good one. It's one that's

576
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>not going to rattle you the way this one did.

577
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 2>It was pretty I'm not going to say it was benign,

578
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.359
<v Speaker 2>but that encounter was as benign as a dog me

579
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 2>encounter could be. A dog mean encounter can be almost

580
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you were eighteen inches away from it face

581
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>to face, so that right there is pretty intense. Whether

582
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>it snarled that you were acted aggressive, but still, I mean,

583
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:34.200
<v Speaker 2>everything considered, it was a pretty good dog mean encounter.

584
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:38.759
<v Speaker 1>That's a good bang. I being at that age student

585
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 1>high school and like I say, I was just young

586
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and old that feared nothing. Nothing. I've been in cages

587
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 1>with bulls and on the back of farcing down in Avery, Georgia,

588
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and they wasn't broken in or just this was getting

589
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>nothing anywhere. I wanted to go clem trees, hanging out

590
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>bridge and hanging up a side of the usfnmics of

591
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 1>aircraft carrier CBN sixty eight. And it came into swimming

592
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>with snakes, didn't It didn't catching them. It didn't make

593
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>no different with it. Would I just wasn't skinner man

594
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:21.279
<v Speaker 1>saying now, if that thing would have been growling small

595
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and showing teeth and out of it probably so.

596
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:28.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that would change everything. Like I said before,

597
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Thank goodness it wasn't that way with you, because that

598
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:34.640
<v Speaker 2>would have definitely changed the complexion of it. It really

599
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>would have. Like I said, everyone, if you have any

600
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.720
<v Speaker 2>questions you want me to ask James for you, if

601
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:42.119
<v Speaker 2>you're in the live chat, please go ahead and type

602
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>it in all caps. That way I won't miss it. James.

603
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:48.240
<v Speaker 2>After mister l cited in your scope for you, you

604
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.119
<v Speaker 2>said that you had a lot of confidence when it

605
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.319
<v Speaker 2>came to your ability to hit what you're aiming at.

606
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>But if that dog man would have come back around

607
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 2>that night, the night that you and your brothers saw it,

608
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and or later on I'm laying in that ditch, how

609
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.119
<v Speaker 2>sure are you he actually would have shot.

610
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 4>It, because, like I said, after he sighted that riffling

611
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 4>in and to this day, I can take my riffle

612
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 4>and hit targets at one thousand yards.

613
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 1>So it's I mean, it's easy. I've done it all

614
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>my life, like I said, me and my older brother,

615
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.319
<v Speaker 1>we started out with pellet guns. We got so good.

616
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:26.119
<v Speaker 1>We set the pet six sit matches, little strike matches

617
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>out there, the boxes out there and the matches, and

618
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>then shooting with pellet guns and I come over with shotgun.

619
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:34.319
<v Speaker 1>With the spread of the buck shots of bird shots

620
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:36.079
<v Speaker 1>coming out, we don't have to really too much aim.

621
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:38.359
<v Speaker 1>But I got so good with that thirty dollars sick

622
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and still I got thirty or six. Now I can

623
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>hear anything. I can hit a candload at five hundred

624
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>yards for that thing with that high power scope. It's

625
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 1>child's play.

626
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>You're a nail driver.

627
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Then, oh yeah, I'm one of the best. I consider

628
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 1>myself one of the best. I want to be the best.

629
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can understand why. If you can do that,

630
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:06.359
<v Speaker 2>you're surgical. You've always been one of those people who

631
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<v Speaker 2>have had to see it to believe it. James, But

632
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>did your dog be in the encounter have any effect

633
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 2>on that present day? Are you more open minded or

634
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.199
<v Speaker 2>are you're still skeptical about things?

635
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I was skeptical up until that point when until the

636
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.159
<v Speaker 1>z Road got up on my offer, and because like

637
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I say, I talked when I said, I used to

638
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 1>watch your dog man in counters, and I say, you

639
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 1>know a couple other people and sasquatching counters, and I'm

640
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 1>chalking up, okay, misidentifications. Somebody putting a suit on and

641
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 1>their friends over on one side of the road, and

642
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>as soon as a car come by, they run across

643
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>with the suits and then it free and take pictures

644
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 1>of it and hop on the back of the truck

645
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and they go home and they go there clan they

646
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>seeing a sasquatch or a dog man. I don't think okay,

647
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 1>could have been a hologram. That means they something could

648
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.760
<v Speaker 1>be a hologround projector or something like this right here.

649
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.119
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people say, man, look like it was

650
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:02.159
<v Speaker 1>floating right across the street, and I said, Okay, if

651
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>there could have been a holler round projected or something.

652
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just all kind of wild. Things went through my

653
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>mind to try to rationalize the encounters I was seeing

654
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>on telling me you knew that. I know that I've

655
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:19.639
<v Speaker 1>seen a live one, a real breathing, live one. And

656
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I chalked it up. Like I say, and if people

657
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.760
<v Speaker 1>making miss identifying a bear stand up against a tree

658
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.400
<v Speaker 1>scratching it back like they do, maybe they saw that

659
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe a deer was at an awful position. They said

660
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:34.119
<v Speaker 1>that how long the dog man was going on four feet?

661
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, okay, maybe you've seen one dog man with

662
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>his head down and another one was head up and

663
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>standing close to each other, and you misidentify that from

664
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.280
<v Speaker 1>a distance how long it was? But like I say, now,

665
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I know those people actually saw those things because I

666
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 1>saw one.

667
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that you did. No denying that.

668
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:54.559
<v Speaker 1>Now.

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00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Some of my witnesses, after having really traumatic encounters with

670
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.880
<v Speaker 2>dog men, do all they can to wait even thinking

671
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 2>about them. Others, on the other hand, become obsessed with

672
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.679
<v Speaker 2>trying to find out all they can. Which group would

673
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.039
<v Speaker 2>you say that you fit into or fit somewhere between?

674
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I fit in the group of trying to find out

675
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:19.039
<v Speaker 1>every I watch your dog Man in Council every night.

676
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Every night I watched, so I even go and watch

677
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:26.320
<v Speaker 1>one that I've seen before, and I'm listening and I'm

678
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 1>taking in all the information I'm taking in the area

679
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.199
<v Speaker 1>they've seen them in, if they showed the time line,

680
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.280
<v Speaker 1>or whoever they seeing them at, especially like I hear

681
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm here in Texas, Clean Texas, so close around like Austin,

682
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.800
<v Speaker 1>lampasas Gatesville, and I heard a few people say they've

683
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.119
<v Speaker 1>seen them in Gatesville because of a bunch of country

684
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>out there in Gatesville. I've even taken my car and

685
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 1>rode out that with my night vision goggle and just

686
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:54.519
<v Speaker 1>park side the road and took that night vision thing.

687
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:57.079
<v Speaker 1>It'll go at least eight hundred yards and just in

688
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the area. It got to me a point. I just

689
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I get obsessed with seeing a full body. Now I've

690
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 1>seen this. I've seen some tears and wild hob and

691
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:13.079
<v Speaker 1>iyotas stuff like this round here, and I'm like, stand up,

692
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>please don't. I'm telling myself seeing it's kind of your

693
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 1>please stand up tell us it.

694
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Huh, yeah, you really caught the bug. That's pretty normal.

695
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 2>You live your life believing that the world operates one way,

696
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 2>but some days, some night, more accurately, you find out

697
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 2>that the world is totally different than you've been told

698
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 2>it is. It's only natural that you're going to try

699
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:38.880
<v Speaker 2>to investigate whatever it was that upsets your your worldview.

700
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 2>You're going to research that all you can. So, yeah,

701
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:44.760
<v Speaker 2>that's what I would expect when it comes to how

702
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you've responded. There's no surprise when it comes to that

703
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 2>to me at all. There really isn't. Well, let's get

704
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:53.599
<v Speaker 2>to some of the questions from the live chat members.

705
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:57.079
<v Speaker 2>The first one up is from Pancha Zorch and Poncha

706
00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:59.559
<v Speaker 2>wants to know what its arms look like.

707
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, I didn't see any arms, like I say. The

708
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 1>only thing I saw was his hands, its face, and

709
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:11.039
<v Speaker 1>then his ears and the way his hand was like

710
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:14.519
<v Speaker 1>he had his hands down, but his arms down, but

711
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>his hands up and hands up fold up like a

712
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 1>half fist. And that's how I never just I wish

713
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:21.679
<v Speaker 1>I would have seen the arms, so I couldn't tell

714
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 1>you how long they were or were they shaggy? Was

715
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>it sharp fur or long fur? I just seen the hands,

716
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:28.679
<v Speaker 1>never seen his arms.

717
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:32.199
<v Speaker 2>So it had its hands up and over the window

718
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:37.440
<v Speaker 2>sell the left. Yeah, yeah, okay, that makes sense. The

719
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:39.760
<v Speaker 2>next one up is from the Wellye Belly and they

720
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 2>want to know what color was it. He said it

721
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:44.239
<v Speaker 2>was peanut butter colored. But they also want to know

722
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:46.599
<v Speaker 2>did it seem to be more of a puff than

723
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:47.239
<v Speaker 2>an adult?

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00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.239
<v Speaker 1>To me, it would just be I mean I get

725
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.360
<v Speaker 1>at that time, well, like I say now, I would

726
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>put it as an a dope, pretty much an adult

727
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.119
<v Speaker 1>as far as I know from what I've heard how

728
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>people seen, but like a sub adote. I put it

729
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.679
<v Speaker 1>that way, a sub adope because, like I said, that

730
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:08.800
<v Speaker 1>one though, we had to stand up on a tire

731
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:10.559
<v Speaker 1>just looking at one and an I was at that

732
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:13.360
<v Speaker 1>time five foot five, and I know that time was

733
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.639
<v Speaker 1>at least three foot till I put that thing over

734
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>eight feet tall. And I don't know if it was.

735
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>It may have been bending over looking at the one

736
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.239
<v Speaker 1>for an hour, I know, but I know it would

737
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.920
<v Speaker 1>at least a little bit over eight feet tall.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's big enough right there. The next question is

739
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:33.440
<v Speaker 2>from Scott Lee. Scott wants to know now before I

740
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:38.159
<v Speaker 2>ask this question, I'm going to qualify it. His question

741
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:41.480
<v Speaker 2>if you listen to James talk about what he experienced,

742
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:45.239
<v Speaker 2>you might say, okay, well Jeams already answered that. But

743
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Scott wants to know. I'll just read this question and

744
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 2>then I'll finish qualifying it. Scott wants to know did

745
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:53.119
<v Speaker 2>it have a terrifying look about it? Or was it

746
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:57.760
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful one? Now, even though it wasn't apoplectic, it

747
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.199
<v Speaker 2>was just looking at James through the window without showing

748
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 2>any expression, it still could have been this one, wasn't

749
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.960
<v Speaker 2>It still could have been frightening to look at. So

750
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.920
<v Speaker 2>don't just dismiss his question out of hand as having

751
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.639
<v Speaker 2>already been answered. But yeah, just understand that even though

752
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.280
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't acting aggressive towards James, it still could have

753
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:25.960
<v Speaker 2>been frightening to look at. But yeah, I just wanted

754
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.719
<v Speaker 2>to qualify that before I I do share this question

755
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:32.000
<v Speaker 2>with you. Anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself. Scott's question

756
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.800
<v Speaker 2>is did it have a terrifying look about it? Or

757
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:36.079
<v Speaker 2>was it a beautiful one?

758
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<v Speaker 1>To me, it was a beautiful look. Like I say,

759
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:45.840
<v Speaker 1>it looked like a giant version of zero. And now

760
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you that my younger sibling woke up heer

761
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 1>terror it would have scared them half to death. If

762
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:56.239
<v Speaker 1>they're seen that the side of his head and you

763
00:40:56.280 --> 00:41:00.360
<v Speaker 1>know this fingers like the long hand fingers all that,

764
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.440
<v Speaker 1>it would have gared them to death. Like I say,

765
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm the type of person that I put my confidence

766
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.079
<v Speaker 1>in those weapons, with the two shotguns we had down there.

767
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Plus it was my older brother was down there and

768
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:12.800
<v Speaker 1>we both could shoot real goods. Were thinking at that

769
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>time those shotguns could stop anything. And that's me And

770
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:20.239
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't aggressive look and so it never put any fear.

771
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.599
<v Speaker 1>It startled me when I first looked up because I'm

772
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:26.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what it was. I had I

773
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:30.679
<v Speaker 1>went outside and things may have changed. I may have

774
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:32.039
<v Speaker 1>been running back in that house.

775
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, you just might have an understandably so, and

776
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 2>you just mentioned that you're right there trying to figure

777
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 2>out what it was. This is the perfect question to

778
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.920
<v Speaker 2>follow up that statement with cookies and Cream wants to

779
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:49.280
<v Speaker 2>know do you think it was a male or a female?

780
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Dog man? If I had to make a decision, I

781
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.199
<v Speaker 1>would think it was male because, like I said, it

782
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.360
<v Speaker 1>had the same and Zero's a male and they had

783
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the same black characteristic of him. Just what the wideness

784
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 1>up his head, bigger head. But some female you know

785
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>of animals that they're larger than the male, So it

786
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:11.960
<v Speaker 1>could quite possibly have been a female. Like I say,

787
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see Chester or anything. I just, like I said,

788
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.119
<v Speaker 1>from the head ears and half that's it. So it

789
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:20.960
<v Speaker 1>could have went both ways. It could have been male

790
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>or female. I just don't know.

791
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're just doing the best you could to hold

792
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:29.320
<v Speaker 2>it together and try to gather as much info as

793
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:31.840
<v Speaker 2>you could. Like I said, I think you deserve a

794
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of credit for the way you handle that. You

795
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:39.800
<v Speaker 2>really do. Most people wouldn't have done really as well.

796
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<v Speaker 2>This next question is from Wandering Bull three six nine,

797
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.639
<v Speaker 2>and he wants to know how old were you. I

798
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:48.159
<v Speaker 2>think you must have missed episode five ninety seven.

799
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<v Speaker 1>I was young. I was around between fifteen to fifteen,

800
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<v Speaker 1>sixteen years old, fourteen, fifteen to seventeen, I would put

801
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:58.159
<v Speaker 1>it fourteen to seventeen years I know, I was still

802
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:02.159
<v Speaker 1>in high school. And like I said, the running around

803
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.199
<v Speaker 1>those pellet guns shot gun, they eventually thirty or six,

804
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have sense enough to have fear. I put

805
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<v Speaker 1>it that way.

806
00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how most of us were back then at

807
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:18.079
<v Speaker 2>that age, so can't faultunate for that. It looks like

808
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 2>I must have missed episode five ninety seven, because she

809
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:27.440
<v Speaker 2>wants to know, James, did you say you're afraid of catfish? Why? So?

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<v Speaker 5>My brother called a catfish at that pond behind my

811
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.719
<v Speaker 5>granddad's house, and he had my granddad's old still relling

812
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 5>raw and very large catfish.

813
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<v Speaker 1>And as he pulled them up on that bank, the

814
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.440
<v Speaker 1>bank was like a slope, and that line broke and

815
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that fish was flopping around trying to get back into

816
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that water, and me, being an idiot, ran down there

817
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.599
<v Speaker 1>and grabbed that fish with both my hands on the

818
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.679
<v Speaker 1>side of his head, with those two whatever twenty things

819
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>on his side, and it must have stuck them both up,

820
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:03.199
<v Speaker 1>and it made me turn it loose. And from that

821
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:07.159
<v Speaker 1>day forward and to this day here, I will not

822
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 1>pick up a catfish for nothing.

823
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it hurts, doesn't it?

824
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

825
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'll get your motor running. It looks like

826
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<v Speaker 2>the next question is from Lucky number six and he

827
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 2>wants to know where. She wants to know did James

828
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:29.800
<v Speaker 2>see any here or fur or paw Prince left behind the.

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<v Speaker 1>Next day nothing. Only thing that was noticeable was the

830
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.360
<v Speaker 1>torn screen. We know for a fact that screen wasn't torn. So,

831
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:40.679
<v Speaker 1>like I said, was that previous day we pre say

832
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:42.320
<v Speaker 1>hide and go seeking to get up there and looking

833
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:44.679
<v Speaker 1>at our grandma would have killed us, My grandad would

834
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:47.159
<v Speaker 1>have killed us. They would have told that screen and

835
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<v Speaker 1>the grass around the house. The house was sitting up

836
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<v Speaker 1>on bricks, old house and up home bricks or stone, bricks, whatever,

837
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>and couldn't see anything. And at that time I wasn't

838
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<v Speaker 1>thinking to go look at that field because the field

839
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:01.400
<v Speaker 1>was plow up, but it had no plants there, and

840
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>it probably was footprints out there, but we weren't even

841
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.360
<v Speaker 1>thinking about that, about looking for footprint. I wish I

842
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.679
<v Speaker 1>would have, but we weren't even thinking about looking for footprints.

843
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:15.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's totally understandable, it really is. It's not until

844
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.079
<v Speaker 2>recent times when the idea of trying to collect evidence

845
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.840
<v Speaker 2>is really in the forefront of most people's minds when

846
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 2>it comes to an experience like that, so totally understandable.

847
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:29.360
<v Speaker 2>It looks like the next question is from Wandering Bull

848
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:32.960
<v Speaker 2>and Wandering Bull wants to know James, at any point

849
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.199
<v Speaker 2>did you think to take a picture of the dog men?

850
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I had nothing at that time. To take a picture

851
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:42.840
<v Speaker 1>with it. Nothing, no back they have no cell phones

852
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:44.840
<v Speaker 1>back then with us. If they were, we didn't know

853
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>about them. And the camera was an old polar rob

854
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:49.920
<v Speaker 1>that I could shoot the picture out, but we didn't

855
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:53.039
<v Speaker 1>have anything like that. I say, I wished I would have.

856
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:54.719
<v Speaker 1>I definitely would have toruk a picture of it. But

857
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:56.599
<v Speaker 1>like I said, probably even if I had a camp

858
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:58.639
<v Speaker 1>I would have been thinking about that camera. I was

859
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>just been looking at that thing. And that's what I

860
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>say about a lot of people think they got their

861
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:04.679
<v Speaker 1>cell phones and they see the thing, that's first thing

862
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 1>they think people are going to do if grab their phone.

863
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Know that that half the people are being shocked. They

864
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>are not thinking about their cell phone. They're thinking about living.

865
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:18.440
<v Speaker 2>You're right, You're right. I heard somebody on a podcast

866
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:20.360
<v Speaker 2>mentioned if we put you in a cage at the

867
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 2>zoo with a lion, how many pictures are you going

868
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.559
<v Speaker 2>to get to that line? That's a great point.

869
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Zero, that's right.

870
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I apologize if we've got that interference. Again, like I

871
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.360
<v Speaker 2>said on an earlier episode, someone in the area where

872
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:41.000
<v Speaker 2>the studio is has got an ungrounded antenna and that's

873
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:44.199
<v Speaker 2>what causes that sound. So again I apologize. Hopefully they'll

874
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 2>stop it. But the next question for you is from

875
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Kelly in I think she missed episode five ninety seven

876
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.719
<v Speaker 2>as well. Kelly wants to know where did this happen?

877
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:55.920
<v Speaker 2>What part of the country.

878
00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:02.079
<v Speaker 1>It's Georgia and it's Old Country or Bianna, Georgia or Vienna.

879
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I pronounced that Vianna. It was in Vienna, Georgia. It

880
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>was out from the town out in the country. Weighed

881
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>about five miles from town, out in the country, about

882
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 1>three miles away from Interstate seventy five that runs straight

883
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>through Cordia, Vianna, Dooley County all up Atlanta. It was

884
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:25.639
<v Speaker 1>out in the country, got them with woods and fields.

885
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, perfect area for a dog man to be. The

886
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.840
<v Speaker 2>next question for you is from Michigan meat eater, and

887
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 2>he wants to know have you had any other experiences

888
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:39.280
<v Speaker 2>after this?

889
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>No, and at that time I wish I did. Like

890
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:46.679
<v Speaker 1>I said, after that, we've been down there one hundred

891
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 1>more times. Out said that I watched that wonder, never

892
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:53.840
<v Speaker 1>seen anything about that. Didn't go outside and in the daytime,

893
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I whatever. When I mentioned my dad brought to thirty

894
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:57.679
<v Speaker 1>hour stix with the scope on it. I used to

895
00:47:57.679 --> 00:47:59.400
<v Speaker 1>stand up on a big iron pot in the back

896
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:02.599
<v Speaker 1>of my granddad out and just scan that tree line

897
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:05.400
<v Speaker 1>where the pond was, hoping that I would see it.

898
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:07.559
<v Speaker 1>Need come to drink some water or just walk out

899
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:09.679
<v Speaker 1>or either stand there looking at me. I just I

900
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:12.920
<v Speaker 1>just never sing it again. I want thing I heard

901
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:16.360
<v Speaker 1>anything close about that is when my brother theyvenge had

902
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:18.480
<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend, ain't Darthy when they said something ran out

903
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:20.280
<v Speaker 1>in front of their car in front of Georgia Civik.

904
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you handled it exactly how people would almost anyone

905
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:33.880
<v Speaker 2>would handle a situation like that. So, yeah, that was

906
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:39.840
<v Speaker 2>textbook how you handled that. The next question is from KL,

907
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.440
<v Speaker 2>and KL wants to know did you say that from

908
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Georgia that's my home state. Yeah, you just answered that,

909
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 2>so we can move on to the next one, which

910
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:54.079
<v Speaker 2>is from to be or not to be? They wanted

911
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:56.079
<v Speaker 2>to know did you feel like it was intelligent?

912
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes? I can tear from the eye that it was intelligence,

913
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>that those are I could look into his eye, same

914
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:06.559
<v Speaker 1>with with Zero, like I say that same look in

915
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>his eyes, and I know Zero's intelligent. I've seen Zero

916
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>take a council in his mouth and get something from

917
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:16.679
<v Speaker 1>on the table. I watched him do that.

918
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:22.119
<v Speaker 2>That is smart. Yeah, really smart little guy. This next

919
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:25.880
<v Speaker 2>one is from Spicy Housewife and she wants to know

920
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:29.199
<v Speaker 2>has your family been informed about your encounter and if yes,

921
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:30.639
<v Speaker 2>what was the reaction.

922
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:35.119
<v Speaker 1>No, I've never told anyone my family. The only one

923
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I know about there was me and my older brother

924
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 1>because at that time, we didn't want to scare you know,

925
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 1>the younger siblings or the older one. My grandmother, my grandfather.

926
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:49.639
<v Speaker 1>My mother thought we were probably was crazy, and we

927
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:53.239
<v Speaker 1>never did tell anybody, And they didn't tell him one thing.

928
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Because there's been times when my mother actually went down

929
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:58.199
<v Speaker 1>there by herself and we stayed home, me and my

930
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.079
<v Speaker 1>older brother to the younger of us right there, and

931
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.039
<v Speaker 1>we wanted to tell them, but like I said, I brother,

932
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>that thing probably long gone. So we never got because,

933
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.559
<v Speaker 1>like I said, under the time after that we were dying.

934
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>There nothing nothing even remotely close to it, anything coming

935
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to that woman except for the little small are light

936
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:20.519
<v Speaker 1>from the light that was oldbody shed. You never told

937
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:24.159
<v Speaker 1>about mother or my grandmother, anybody. That only pace people

938
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:25.639
<v Speaker 1>I ever told what the people I worked with.

939
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:30.599
<v Speaker 2>It really was a different time back then. People are

940
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:33.239
<v Speaker 2>so much more open to things like this now than

941
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 2>they were back then. It's totally understandable why you didn't

942
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:40.559
<v Speaker 2>share it. I get it. The next question is from

943
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:43.679
<v Speaker 2>Christina easter Day, and she wants to know did all

944
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.519
<v Speaker 2>your dogs react at all when this dog man was

945
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:48.360
<v Speaker 2>at your window for forty five minutes?

946
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:53.159
<v Speaker 1>No, my dogs, they were in about twenty miles away.

947
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 1>There was an airby charge at my grandmother's house on

948
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>my father's side. That's why I got was I never

949
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.800
<v Speaker 1>had a dog down to my grandfather's house. And my

950
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 1>granddad had two black Labrador Retrievers and that was at

951
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.440
<v Speaker 1>that time I was probably about twelve or thirteen years old,

952
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:13.119
<v Speaker 1>And to this day, I don't know what happened to

953
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>those dogs. Only thing I know he had two levelod

954
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>we used to play with and after that they were gone.

955
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:19.920
<v Speaker 1>And I actually I never had an owner doult that

956
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I took down there to my grandfather's house and Bana

957
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.400
<v Speaker 1>George that was my mother's mama and father. But I

958
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:26.639
<v Speaker 1>never had a dog down there.

959
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 2>It does make you wonder how they would have responded.

960
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:35.199
<v Speaker 2>This next one is from Christina Ysterday also and you

961
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:37.800
<v Speaker 2>touched on this already. She wants to know what color

962
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:41.360
<v Speaker 2>worthy eyes sin color is zero. I guess a darker

963
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:45.559
<v Speaker 2>brown in the dark brown or black. I think you said,

964
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:49.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't you Yep, okay. And then she also wants to

965
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:51.480
<v Speaker 2>know if it smiled at you, and you said that

966
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:53.360
<v Speaker 2>it kept its mouth closed the whole time.

967
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kept no smile, no grimace, no bearing his teeth,

968
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:04.480
<v Speaker 1>no lips going back like zero do sometime when I

969
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:08.559
<v Speaker 1>accovate him. But nothing. It just it was like it

970
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:10.519
<v Speaker 1>was a somebody just put a picture of it there.

971
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:12.679
<v Speaker 1>It was just that still. I know it was living

972
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:14.400
<v Speaker 1>if I can look at it out. The only thing

973
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:16.400
<v Speaker 1>moved with his eye when I laid back down, his

974
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:21.239
<v Speaker 1>eye would just following minutes, three things moved, eyes, those hands,

975
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and it was when it went back. That's the only

976
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:24.679
<v Speaker 1>thing that moved on that.

977
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Thing, other than being there at your bedroom window in

978
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:31.320
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the night to handle itself about as

979
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:34.440
<v Speaker 2>well as could be expected or hoped, so thank goodness

980
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:38.920
<v Speaker 2>for that. Steven truth seeker wants to know if there

981
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:39.719
<v Speaker 2>was a smell.

982
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:44.280
<v Speaker 1>No, there was no smell, like I said, was I

983
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:47.840
<v Speaker 1>was inside it was on the outside that no smell

984
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:49.639
<v Speaker 1>whatsoever I could think of. No smell.

985
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:55.920
<v Speaker 2>That answer is that Christine yesterday also wants to know

986
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:58.559
<v Speaker 2>if it had tufts on the tops of its ears.

987
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:02.679
<v Speaker 1>I did. If it did, I didn't see it because

988
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have time to actually focus in on his ears,

989
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:11.039
<v Speaker 1>because as soon as I set up, its hands stopped,

990
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and when his ears went back, that's when I looked

991
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.559
<v Speaker 1>up and I called him going back. So I didn't

992
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:17.320
<v Speaker 1>see that that that the tip of them that didn't

993
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:19.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't have I just know they was just long and

994
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:22.760
<v Speaker 1>pointed from the its head on up and its ears

995
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:24.519
<v Speaker 1>went back before I can actually see the tip of

996
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:27.840
<v Speaker 1>they just folded back and they never came back up.

997
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:34.760
<v Speaker 2>It's no chance to tell for that tufts. That's understandable.

998
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 2>It looks like no more. Fundland wants to know. Do

999
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:41.480
<v Speaker 2>you have a history of any pure normal encounters other

1000
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 2>than the dog man.

1001
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:49.039
<v Speaker 1>No, that's about the only thing other than this gigantic snake.

1002
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:52.199
<v Speaker 1>I saw. We well, we all saw that going across

1003
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that that dirt road stretched from one end that dirt

1004
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:56.440
<v Speaker 1>road all the way across the other.

1005
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that was fun, that rattlesnake. That was one heck

1006
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:05.400
<v Speaker 2>of a specimen. If there ever was such a thing

1007
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:09.440
<v Speaker 2>as a boon and crocket rattlesnake. That's definitely one that

1008
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:14.159
<v Speaker 2>was it. That's a big one. This next one is

1009
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:19.079
<v Speaker 2>from Currie Hellier, and Carrie wants to know, sorry if

1010
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:22.199
<v Speaker 2>this has already been covered James, but did the eye

1011
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.440
<v Speaker 2>seem to have an illumination of their own rather than

1012
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:26.840
<v Speaker 2>just reflected eye shine?

1013
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:33.800
<v Speaker 1>No shine whatsoever? Is I the brownish black eyes with

1014
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:35.679
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of white I can see on both

1015
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 1>corners of it. And that was it. It wasn't no shining,

1016
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:42.840
<v Speaker 1>no illumination in thathing regular dog black eyes to me.

1017
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that helps too. There's no such thing as a

1018
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:50.159
<v Speaker 2>dog man encounter that's going to give you the warm

1019
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.719
<v Speaker 2>and fuzzies. But this one here that James had except

1020
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:54.639
<v Speaker 2>for the fact that being so close to the window

1021
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:58.599
<v Speaker 2>everything besides that it pushes all the buttons for being

1022
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:01.239
<v Speaker 2>about as team as can be. Thank goodness for that.

1023
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I still wish it wouldn't have come up to your

1024
00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:07.079
<v Speaker 2>window the way it did. But other than that, everything

1025
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:09.519
<v Speaker 2>else it checks off all the boxes.

1026
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Like I say, it wasn't no one that

1027
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.320
<v Speaker 1>went aggressive, just like it was just like looking at

1028
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the one like asci in time. Just look, okay, I'll

1029
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.440
<v Speaker 1>see you. You see me. We just look at each other.

1030
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:27.639
<v Speaker 1>And I guess when y'all fell asleep, maybe just say, okay,

1031
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.760
<v Speaker 1>he's not looking at me anymore. You sleep by. Maybe

1032
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:33.519
<v Speaker 1>it just walk. Maybe it just say, okay, you better

1033
00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 1>I got away from the winder. I don't know.

1034
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:41.280
<v Speaker 2>All we can do is guess. The next one is

1035
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:44.880
<v Speaker 2>from Jennifer Christiansen and Jim wants to know did the

1036
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:46.199
<v Speaker 2>dog man have claws?

1037
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:49.599
<v Speaker 1>If it did, I didn't see him, like I said,

1038
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.519
<v Speaker 1>I had to have to to to that screen like

1039
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.239
<v Speaker 1>it did. But like I said, the one I looked up,

1040
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:59.119
<v Speaker 1>his fingers was folded down and it froze, so I

1041
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:02.159
<v Speaker 1>must have called it and down with motion. When it

1042
00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:05.480
<v Speaker 1>froze up and it froze up, his eyes shifted. The

1043
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:07.239
<v Speaker 1>minute went back and I looked up in his ears

1044
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 1>right quick, and I looked back down in his eyes,

1045
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and I just stayed locked with his eyes. But I

1046
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.440
<v Speaker 1>see when I first seen his fingers, I can see him,

1047
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:16.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm looking at his eyes. I can still

1048
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:19.280
<v Speaker 1>see the image of his fingers down there, but it

1049
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:21.119
<v Speaker 1>was folded over, so I didn't see it. If it

1050
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:23.039
<v Speaker 1>had closed or not, I'm pretty sure it did. And

1051
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the way it throw that screen.

1052
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, you deserve credit for noticing all that you did.

1053
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, a lot of people, most people wouldn't

1054
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:33.719
<v Speaker 2>have noticed what you did, So hats off to you.

1055
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I've got another one for you. This one's from Bang

1056
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Bang and she wants to know, James, did you see

1057
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:40.639
<v Speaker 2>it tapped on the window?

1058
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:46.079
<v Speaker 1>It was not I wouldn't call it tapping on the window.

1059
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:48.880
<v Speaker 1>It was like it was like scratching on it. Cause

1060
00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:51.199
<v Speaker 1>once it got through that screen, that's when it hit

1061
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:58.920
<v Speaker 1>his fingers start hitting that window. And I looked at it, like, yeah, okay,

1062
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>this thing. That's what woke up because I can, I can,

1063
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I can hear like a bunch of and that's what

1064
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:07.679
<v Speaker 1>woke me up. And it was still going on, and

1065
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:10.039
<v Speaker 1>so I'm like, okay, I woke up. Or something is

1066
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.719
<v Speaker 1>tapping in that window or something that's tapping in this

1067
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:17.039
<v Speaker 1>house somewhere. And as I set up and turned my

1068
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:22.519
<v Speaker 1>head to the window, and wow, I said, what is this?

1069
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh I bet you said something worse than that, and understandably,

1070
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:33.920
<v Speaker 2>so I get it. This next one is from Frost

1071
00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:36.599
<v Speaker 2>m See Dill and they wanted to know when it

1072
00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:39.800
<v Speaker 2>looked in the window, was it concentrating on him or

1073
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:42.840
<v Speaker 2>was it looking up the inside of the room.

1074
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:48.360
<v Speaker 1>It concentrated full attention was on me one hundred percent.

1075
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Is I never left me? It stayed focused on me

1076
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:55.719
<v Speaker 1>in my eyes, like I said, I may. I took

1077
00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:59.480
<v Speaker 1>my eyes glanced away from it twice to see anybody

1078
00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:01.039
<v Speaker 1>getting up, make sure women not trying to go out

1079
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that door, and looking at that old grandfather clock, the

1080
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:08.519
<v Speaker 1>little dim light. But its eyes never left me. It

1081
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:11.360
<v Speaker 1>stayed locked on me like like it was just just

1082
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:13.119
<v Speaker 1>looking at it intrigue.

1083
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:18.280
<v Speaker 2>You know when you're in the conversation with someone, how

1084
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:22.079
<v Speaker 2>if you're close enough, you can notice I'm looking left right, left, right,

1085
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:24.119
<v Speaker 2>left right, looking from one eye to the next and

1086
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:27.000
<v Speaker 2>back and forth. Did it ever do that with you?

1087
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Or was it just locked in one eye of the

1088
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:29.239
<v Speaker 2>whole time?

1089
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Locked on? Was it looking at me one eye like

1090
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:35.559
<v Speaker 1>I say, when I looked at it, I'm my eye

1091
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:37.599
<v Speaker 1>then moved. When I was sitting up, I'm looking into

1092
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:41.079
<v Speaker 1>his vibe. It never blinked. Maybe if it did, I

1093
00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:43.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't notice it like it never blinked. I'm just looking

1094
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:46.519
<v Speaker 1>at it and bating the part of my month. I

1095
00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:48.880
<v Speaker 1>laid back down at that angle and nearly laid on

1096
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:51.239
<v Speaker 1>top of one of my brothers. And that's the only

1097
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:54.599
<v Speaker 1>time is I moved boo and it kind of went

1098
00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:57.760
<v Speaker 1>to the it space and the one that went back

1099
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:00.440
<v Speaker 1>to the right because I was laying I laid back

1100
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:02.679
<v Speaker 1>and at angles, I went to the looking at the

1101
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:08.079
<v Speaker 1>then move it out. Just his eyes moved, and at

1102
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:11.159
<v Speaker 1>that time I could see more fright on its left

1103
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:13.159
<v Speaker 1>eye than the right one.

1104
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:18.280
<v Speaker 2>That's called the sclera of the eyeball. You most have

1105
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:21.679
<v Speaker 2>witnesses they never seeing that. So yeah, you were close,

1106
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:26.079
<v Speaker 2>up close and personal. The next one for you is

1107
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 2>from to be or not to be? And they want

1108
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:30.119
<v Speaker 2>to know, do you have any friends who have seen

1109
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:30.800
<v Speaker 2>the dog man?

1110
00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:37.159
<v Speaker 1>I had one. She comes to subway and that she's

1111
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:39.599
<v Speaker 1>the one person I told and she called the werewolf

1112
00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and she said she's playing the werewolf, said she passed by.

1113
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:47.039
<v Speaker 1>She was actually she was coming down one and she

1114
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:49.679
<v Speaker 1>works in Georgetown. She was coming back home down one

1115
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and said she looked over and seeing and I'm like,

1116
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:00.960
<v Speaker 1>why when I w you, I'm thinking that myself. And

1117
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I told her about how I was gonna do this here.

1118
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:06.480
<v Speaker 1>She said, well, that's when she told me she did

1119
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:09.159
<v Speaker 1>I've seen a were wolf. I'm like, okay, it's just

1120
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:11.000
<v Speaker 1>as a doult man. It's not a were wolf. It

1121
01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:13.800
<v Speaker 1>call them dot man. I ended up telling her to

1122
01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:15.599
<v Speaker 1>the day she would still saying it was a were

1123
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:20.159
<v Speaker 1>wolf standing up, walking on it's on two legs.

1124
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:24.440
<v Speaker 2>You know what they say, Misery loves company. Of course

1125
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:28.079
<v Speaker 2>you weren't rattled by that encounter. You're not miserable about

1126
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:30.519
<v Speaker 2>that experience and just trying to deal with it, come

1127
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:32.920
<v Speaker 2>to terms with it. But it still had to be

1128
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:35.639
<v Speaker 2>a source of comfort knowing that you're not the only

1129
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:37.559
<v Speaker 2>person in the world to have an encounter with one

1130
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:40.480
<v Speaker 2>of these things. Now you definitely know that, but back

1131
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:43.199
<v Speaker 2>then when you spoke with her, you found that out

1132
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:46.679
<v Speaker 2>pretty shortly after the fact, and thank goodness for that.

1133
01:00:48.519 --> 01:00:50.360
<v Speaker 1>And then the other one that was when, like I said,

1134
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:53.880
<v Speaker 1>a guy, you're on the supermarket, Rachel supermarket. His name

1135
01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:55.679
<v Speaker 1>was mister Rachel, and I was in there one day

1136
01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:57.239
<v Speaker 1>and he was telling about, you know, he had an't

1137
01:00:57.320 --> 01:00:59.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of with a sash squad night At that time,

1138
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:02.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm highly skeptic. Go okay, yeah, here we go again.

1139
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:06.559
<v Speaker 1>Somebody has seen a nine foot eight walking thing on

1140
01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the iron leg and I've been in these woods millions

1141
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:14.840
<v Speaker 1>of times, hunting, fishing, climbing trees that was anything like that,

1142
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:18.000
<v Speaker 1>And now I know how many times those things like

1143
01:01:18.079 --> 01:01:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that saw me.

1144
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a pretty strange feeling.

1145
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:23.800
<v Speaker 3>I know.

1146
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:27.119
<v Speaker 2>It looks like shalam Shaw wants to know. Do you

1147
01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:29.360
<v Speaker 2>think that if you hadn't woken up and saw it,

1148
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:31.239
<v Speaker 2>that it would have gotten into your home?

1149
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:36.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, because that as flimsy as that

1150
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:39.719
<v Speaker 1>house was, if it wanted to come in, it could

1151
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:42.239
<v Speaker 1>have gotten in. It took either one other doors. Like

1152
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:45.079
<v Speaker 1>I say, they took the old house back there, and

1153
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it took a nail and took a boy a six

1154
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:51.280
<v Speaker 1>foot I mean a six inch by two inches a

1155
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:53.960
<v Speaker 1>little more block of wood and knelt that nail through it,

1156
01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:57.119
<v Speaker 1>knelt it into that wall and then turned its sideways

1157
01:01:57.239 --> 01:01:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and held that door closed. And that was the only

1158
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:03.159
<v Speaker 1>thing holding that door open. And my mother had trying

1159
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:06.800
<v Speaker 1>to lock us. My younger brother hit that door thinking

1160
01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:09.039
<v Speaker 1>it was open, and knocked that nail in that piece

1161
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:11.119
<v Speaker 1>of wood out that door, and that door flew right open.

1162
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:13.760
<v Speaker 1>That thing could have just it could have come in there.

1163
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:16.280
<v Speaker 1>With anybody knowing on the sign you would have heard

1164
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.519
<v Speaker 1>or that nail and that piece of wood hitting that floor.

1165
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:21.000
<v Speaker 1>That's the only sign that would have heard.

1166
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, as you know, it didn't have to use that

1167
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:28.280
<v Speaker 2>door or any window or anything like that to gain entry.

1168
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:30.480
<v Speaker 2>It could have come through the wall, any of the

1169
01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:33.840
<v Speaker 2>walls in the home to get into the home. But yeah,

1170
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:36.159
<v Speaker 2>obviously I didn't want to do that. And thank goodness

1171
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 2>for that.

1172
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, me and my older brother probably because I

1173
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:42.719
<v Speaker 1>guarantee you, if we really wanted to man it took

1174
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:44.320
<v Speaker 1>us a little while, we probably could have went through

1175
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that wall. It was just that thing.

1176
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I understand it looks like cookies and cream must

1177
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.960
<v Speaker 2>not have heard episode five and ninety seven either, because

1178
01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:57.400
<v Speaker 2>you addressed that in that episode. But no harm, no foul.

1179
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's busy. They want to know. So did you see

1180
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:03.239
<v Speaker 2>it leave or did you go to sleep?

1181
01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I fell asleep. I only think I know. I was

1182
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:08.639
<v Speaker 1>laying back, almost on top of one of my brothers,

1183
01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and I was watching it and watching that last glance

1184
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:14.000
<v Speaker 1>when I looked over and making sure nobody up, making

1185
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:15.880
<v Speaker 1>sure I wouldn't see if my older brother was sitting up,

1186
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.159
<v Speaker 1>anybody sitting up, I would have gepped my young wealth

1187
01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:21.039
<v Speaker 1>and dead, and that that's when I've seen that. It

1188
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:23.679
<v Speaker 1>was three o'clock, getting close to three o'clock, and I

1189
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:26.559
<v Speaker 1>just turned around, well put shifting my eyes back slightly

1190
01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and kept looking at looking at looking at it, and

1191
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:30.400
<v Speaker 1>next saying, I know I'm waking up.

1192
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:35.119
<v Speaker 2>It does make you want to how long it stayed there.

1193
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:38.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's a good thing you did just fall asleep,

1194
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:40.800
<v Speaker 2>because if you didn't, who knows what how much time

1195
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:43.079
<v Speaker 2>would have gone by with you still there? Locked ey

1196
01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:43.679
<v Speaker 2>die with.

1197
01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:47.440
<v Speaker 1>That, That's right.

1198
01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:52.079
<v Speaker 2>The next one is from Harrison Wargo, and Harrison wants

1199
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:56.039
<v Speaker 2>to know, apologies if this has been addressed, but what

1200
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:58.280
<v Speaker 2>was the overall feeling you got from it in the

1201
01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:00.800
<v Speaker 2>moments you had looking into its eyes while it was

1202
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:02.880
<v Speaker 2>steering at him.

1203
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:05.880
<v Speaker 1>The very first feeling that came to me when I

1204
01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:11.079
<v Speaker 1>when I first set up it was unbelief. I'm like, okay,

1205
01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:15.639
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm shifted from unbelief. Though what is this?

1206
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:18.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure out what am I looking at?

1207
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:20.280
<v Speaker 1>What I mean, what's in this one? Is an owl?

1208
01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:22.679
<v Speaker 1>In this one looking at it is some raccoon or

1209
01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:25.639
<v Speaker 1>something like that. I'm going through all the little things

1210
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I've seen down there and those wheels down there, and

1211
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:30.960
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I couldn't. I could not match it

1212
01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:34.159
<v Speaker 1>up with anything because the weight had his head down

1213
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and it, like I say, that basically tricked me because

1214
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:39.239
<v Speaker 1>at that time I didn't realize that it's it was

1215
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:42.159
<v Speaker 1>a snout down going down to zero, got into that

1216
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:46.679
<v Speaker 1>pasta and it just didn't. The feeling came over, like, Okay,

1217
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:48.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious. I'm trying to figure out what it was.

1218
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:50.960
<v Speaker 1>It's probably trying to figure out what I am. And

1219
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:52.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm just looking at it and looking at it, and

1220
01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, Okay, I'm looking at an alien from out

1221
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:58.000
<v Speaker 1>a space or a monster or someun rock there. Because

1222
01:04:58.039 --> 01:05:02.679
<v Speaker 1>like I say, back then, the term dog man never

1223
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:06.039
<v Speaker 1>would have crossed my mind to turn well wolfed, Yes,

1224
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:08.880
<v Speaker 1>well wolf crossed my mind. But the one I'm used

1225
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:11.400
<v Speaker 1>to is just a regular man with a little fur

1226
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:13.760
<v Speaker 1>on his face, and he had no snot whatsoever, and

1227
01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:16.599
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't as tall as as victims. And well it's

1228
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:18.880
<v Speaker 1>big fling all that that one we've seen at the theater.

1229
01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Nothing that didn't look nothing like that. And so I

1230
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:27.199
<v Speaker 1>didn't have no kind of this curiosity. I'm trying to

1231
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:29.719
<v Speaker 1>figure out what it was what am I looking at?

1232
01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at something that I've never seen before, so

1233
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't identify it to save my life.

1234
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:39.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you're able to get some answers. Got one

1235
01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:43.880
<v Speaker 2>more question for you, and this is from Becoming Ama

1236
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Marie and looks like Emia wants to know. Hey, James

1237
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:51.199
<v Speaker 2>can't remember from the first episode, and I'm just now

1238
01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:54.159
<v Speaker 2>hopping on the live, but did you or your brother

1239
01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:58.559
<v Speaker 2>ever mention your citing to your grandparents and if not, why.

1240
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Because I didn't want to put them out. I really

1241
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:07.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to scare anybody. My mother, my father, they

1242
01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:09.199
<v Speaker 1>probably want to believe me anyway that the first thing

1243
01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:11.159
<v Speaker 1>they probably would have said, yeah, y'all was so bad

1244
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and probably de Ever looking at you in the wather,

1245
01:06:13.400 --> 01:06:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and I guarantee you that's what they would have said,

1246
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:18.039
<v Speaker 1>and they wanted to believed me. And like I said,

1247
01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:20.239
<v Speaker 1>all the time, me and my brother stayed down there

1248
01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:22.320
<v Speaker 1>soil that time was in the dish trying to find it.

1249
01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:23.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm looking at that one and all that he

1250
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:27.760
<v Speaker 1>probably was too, and I'm scanning the horizon down there,

1251
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:29.719
<v Speaker 1>never seen it again, so I picked it up, and

1252
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that thing is long gone, so nothing to worry about it.

1253
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:34.280
<v Speaker 1>But I made sure I didn't take the boat out

1254
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<v Speaker 1>the shotgun with me, like we went to my other

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<v Speaker 1>grandparents' house in the airbage gearge I left the shotgun down.

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<v Speaker 1>I loaded, Like I say, buck shots love buck shots.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm figuring my granddaddy see something like that. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got that shotgun and so it really didn't worry us

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Plus mister l up there with its thirty

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<v Speaker 1>or six and he shoot really good because he basically

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<v Speaker 1>taught me, and I wasn't really worried. I'm figuring that

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't figure if I wasn't scared, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>my grandparent, maybe he would have been scared.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I said this several times before I said

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<v Speaker 2>one more time. You definitely don't frighten easily. Holy cow.

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<v Speaker 2>I Oh no, I'd say you don't. Well, definitely closing

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<v Speaker 2>comments you want to share with us, James before we

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, like I said, I'm that one person that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all the skeptics on this planet, I was number one,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I at that time, even after I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen that thing in the window, I knew that was

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<v Speaker 1>things out that you couldn't explain. But like I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>for a being of sas squad, I'm that last person

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<v Speaker 1>on earth that would have believed in that. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a idea of what things were missed identification.

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<v Speaker 1>I even went as for a projection hologram and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that around people's and soups and all the people

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<v Speaker 1>with wouldn't put things making all that, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it took zero and I'm glad it did because it

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<v Speaker 1>put my mind at rest. That was forty a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit over forty years, and all that time, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what was it that I've seen? And I am so

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<v Speaker 1>glad that when I some wanted that dog and I

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<v Speaker 1>got him and I was playing with him that day

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<v Speaker 1>and he got up on my arm, that put my

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<v Speaker 1>mind at ease. I was so glad, And like everybody know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know for a fact at least was one. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's still alive. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's still out there. I don't know if it went

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<v Speaker 1>away from Jordan. I know for a fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>was at least one of those things. And I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure everybody's seen these encounters and the different kinds I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about the different kinds. I know that kind.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the one I saw. It may have been the

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<v Speaker 1>same kind as everybody else seen. Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>only seen the face, hands and ears. That's why to

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<v Speaker 1>this day I wish I would have seen his entire body.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably would have scared me half to death then, but

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<v Speaker 1>I still wish I would have seen that entire body.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it probably would have, but it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you obviously weren't in control of that encounter

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<v Speaker 2>it was. I'm just glad that you saw it and

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<v Speaker 2>it was a good thing. It hasn't ruined your life.

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<v Speaker 2>You can still function and do what you need to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank Goodness for that. So I guess all we can

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<v Speaker 2>do is play the glad game on that. And before

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<v Speaker 2>the night, when you had that experience, you never would

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<v Speaker 2>have believed that anything like that could be out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But after you had that experience, now you know there

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<v Speaker 2>definitely are. But having said that, James, I can't thank

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<v Speaker 2>you enough for coming on sharing the details of that

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<v Speaker 2>experience for us and episode five ninety seven number one,

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<v Speaker 2>but for you to come back and answer all these questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Really appreciate that too, So thanks again so much for

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<v Speaker 2>your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're welcome, guinea time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's appreciated well. Having said that, thanks again so much,

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<v Speaker 2>and have a great night, so do you thanks, We'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's it for another episode. Everyone. If you've had

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<v Speaker 2>a Dogman encounter that you either want to speak with

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01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:16.359
<v Speaker 2>me about to get help coming to terms with or

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to be a guest on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>please go to Dogmanencounters dot com submit a report and

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<v Speaker 2>if you do that then I'll be more than happy

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<v Speaker 2>to contact you and schedule a phone consultation with you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no ever any pressure if you need help coming

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<v Speaker 2>to terms with your experience. Of course, there's never any

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<v Speaker 2>pressure to come on the show as a guest. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the eyewitnesses I speak with, I speak with

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<v Speaker 2>and in private you're never going to hear them on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, so please keep that in mind. But having

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<v Speaker 2>said that, thanks again so much for listening everyone. I

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciate it, and of course have a great night.

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<v Speaker 1>English