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much for joining us for another episode of Dogman Encounters Radio.

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Really appreciate you listening. Tonight's guest was featured on episode

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five ninety seven, and because of how much detail there

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was to his encounter, we didn't have time. We didn't

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have close to enough time for medians them all the

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questions I had for him, and also on top of

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that too, I wanted to give the listeners in the

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live chatted chance to ask them questions as well.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: What we planned to do was I planned to have

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them come back on last week for a special episode,

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but unfortunately his cable went down right before we were

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scheduled air that show, that special midweek live stream episode.

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So luckily that's all back up and running, so we're

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able to bring them back on tonight well without any

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further ado, let's bring that guest on now. James, thanks

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so much for coming back.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's a pleasure, pleasures.

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Speaker 2: All mine, James, For anyone who missed episode five ninety seven,

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please tell them about yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's simple. Country boy from the country. I loved it.

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Now I moved to Texas, a big city of a

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new experience for me, and I'm manager at Subway. That's

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pretty much it. I got a little bat dog and Zero.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Zero, you sent me that picture of him.

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I think it was last Tuesday, and he's absolutely adorable.

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I'm gonna post his picture here and just debits everybody

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in the live chat. Everyone who watches the YouTube version

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of the show can see him. But I can understand

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why you love him the way you do. Oh yes, Yeah,

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he's something else. James. When you sat up and locked

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eyes with that dog men that was staring at you

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through the window that night, what did you see in

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his eyes? Did you see fear, anger or curiosity?

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Speaker 1: Curiosity? It looked like it was just as surprised as

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I was, because I know when it was looking in there,

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it couldn't see me. It could see my brother's laying

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beside me, and probably the knees owned down to the

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feet of my sister and my youngest brother. But I

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know I could have seen my brother Tony Bark and

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James and the older one his name James, also James

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Evans Love and I knew I could see them, but

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it couldn't see me. So when I set up, I'm

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pretty sure I surprised it just as much as it

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surprised me.

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Speaker 2: Didn't you say that your news to news with that

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dog man for about forty five.

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Speaker 1: Minutes qualty five minutes less than I put an a

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half away from that thing. I watched that thing and

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I didn't move, It didn't move, and we just I

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was just locked. It was like I was paralyzed, like

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it was paradized. I couldn't I couldn't believe it. I

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was trying everything in the book to make out what

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it was, but nothing, nothing clicking. Back then that time

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in the eighties, that was I've never seen anything like that.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm sure you hadn't you know, when you're

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going through your encyclopedia of what it could have possibly been,

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nothing would fit, nothing would match anything like that. So

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I can only imagine the thoughts that were going through

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your head. But talking about what you saw in its eyes,

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if you were locking eyes with it for forty five minutes.

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from one type of emotion in its size to the next,

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and then to the next, maybe curiosity at one point,

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and then you're steering me. You're steering daggers in my eyes,

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anger because you're challenging me, and then maybe cooling down

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a little bit and back to curiosity or some other emotion.

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You never saw any shift like that in its eyes.

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Speaker 1: There was no shift whatsoever. Nothing moved on it. After

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his ears went back and his eyes followed me when

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I laid back down to it at an anger, I

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nearly laid on top of one of my brothers. Nothing

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about it changed. It was just standing wonder looking at me.

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The only thing moved with his eyes following me as

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I laid back, and it was no anger, no nothing

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like it was just like it was surprised. It was

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like curious, and I'm I'm pretty sure I had the

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same look in my eyes. I'm trying to figure out

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what it was, and I'm thinking, you know, it's trying

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to figure out what I am. And I say, that's

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the reason I wasn't scared, because it is no teeth

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showing nothing, no growling, no aggressive movement. Eyes would basically

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like zero the calm.

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Speaker 2: It's curious when it comes to having dogman encounters. I

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think you hit the lottery as far as the dog

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man that came to pee a visit that night, because

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most of them had, they would have had a captive audience.

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You're right there, nose to know, nos to nose with it.

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They could have pushed all sorts of your buttons. But yeah,

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that dog me, I thank goodness, it didn't do any.

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Speaker 1: Of that, none of it.

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Speaker 2: That's really good now. I know you say when you

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first locked eyes with it, that had its ears pin

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ever put its ears back up?

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Speaker 1: It ears never went back up. When I set up,

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what I noticed first was its hands. That's what was

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checking on that one thing like digitive, and that what

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woke me up. And I set up, and as my

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eyes adjifted, I seen the hands stop. And then when

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the ears went back, and that's what caught my attention

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for the second thing that moves E went back And

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from that moment until I watched it for those forty

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five fifty minutes until that the rest of the two

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hours I watched it. As I laid back, the ears

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never came back up. They stayed pent backwards, that could

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be see them come back up.

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Speaker 2: That could be seen two ways. Obviously, if you're talking

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about a dog or a horus, if they pin their ears,

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normally that's a sign of anger. But it's going to

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use it Zerrus for information gathering. Well, you're right there,

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within less than a foot and a half from it.

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be able to see that you're making a noise, So

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it doesn't need it serious for that. Maybe it pended

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Seers just because of the intensity of the moment. I

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can't think for this thing. All I can do is

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just gues and as we go through tonight's show, I'm

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not gonna try to put any words into your mouth.

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That's the last thing I'd want to do. So when

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I ask you about things like this, yeah, just tell

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me what you experienced and I'll do the best I

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cannot to influence you. But maybe it pended Zeers. What

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I'm getting at here is maybe it pended Seers because

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it didn't want to intimidate you, maybe or just because

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of no other reason than it didn't need it. Zeos.

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so there wasn't really any need to listen.

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Speaker 3: So maybe that's what's behind it, like I say, Zero,

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back head, and that you may be right, and they

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probably right at times.

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Speaker 1: Zero pennies is back is a little angry.

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Speaker 2: Well, that just had to be through the roof. It

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really must have been. Not all, but a lot of

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my witnesses who've been that close to a dog man

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as you were for all that time, they reported an

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unusual quality that the dog man's rettinas had. Did you

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notice anything strange, any strange qualities about its rettinas when

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you were that close to it? I know you said

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it had eyes pretty close to Zero's, only quite a

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bit larger, But did you notice anything strange unusual about

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its retinas?

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Speaker 1: Nothing strange about it? Blackish brown eyes and when I say,

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it looked exactly like Zero eyes and you can see

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just a little bit of white in them on both

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corners of his eye and a limit in the between

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it which knows was and that was it and it

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eyes was just basically like Zero's. A German shepherd like

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eyes or what not? A German shepherd. What's that down

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called guene yes? Not to know? Not that GWEENI A.

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I had one of those starts, a long time golden retriever.

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I was similar like that, and zero eyes are similar

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to a golden retriever.

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Speaker 2: Why you really did looking? You really did hit the

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lottery when it comes to dog men. Yeah, you definitely

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hit the lottery because in almost every other case it's

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gonna be a lot more intense than that. Thank goodness,

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it wasn't more intense.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one thing I can tell you, I am

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awesome with dogs. I own at least thirty dollars and

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I could pretty much make them do anything I want.

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They just loved me. I had so many of them,

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like Zero he sleeps with me, and I had when

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I was in every day father live my well, my

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grandmother left my dad side, and I had dogs. I

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tell them go do this, and they pretty much don't

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do it. It's almost if they understood me. So I

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don't know. I wasn't aggressive toward it, So maybe it

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was just like, Okay, we're just gonna look at each

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other until somebody gives up.

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Speaker 2: Normally, if these guys, they don't care if you're aggressive

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or not, they're gonna just do all they can to

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push your buttons and mortify you to within an inch

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of your life. That's why I'm saying, you really hit

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the lottery. When it comes to dogmen. You could have

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had an encounter with Thank goodness, like I said, for

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that as well, and as far as you being good

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with dogs, that's great. But when it comes to these guys,

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I don't need to tell you. We don't know how

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much of that crosses over to them. Maybe somebody can

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be great with dogs, but I really doubt that anybody's

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gonna be able to count on being good with dog men.

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I just don't think. I don't think that could be

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the case.

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Speaker 1: I don't even, like I said this from here around

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like you say, I must have hit the lottery, and

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I'm pretty much glad I did. I mean, if that

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thing would have been growning or did anything like that,

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I can only think back. I don't know, well, I

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gotta gen ride up what I would have done. It

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would have what's some fear in me and to see

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something that you don't know what it is, and I

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couldn't figure it out because like I said, it had

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its head down and I couldn't really make out that

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snock until Zero help had his head down, and I'm like, oh,

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my goodness, that's what I saw.

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Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I can only imagine what must

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have been going through your mind at the time, and

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understandably so. Now you said that depended zeros right from

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the start. But was there somehow, some way that you

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got to beat on how long it's serious might have been?

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Speaker 1: It is. I would put them as long long as

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my hands, because when I looked up I saw them

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going back. I would put this ear at about seven

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inches seven to eight inches.

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Speaker 2: Well that's pretty long. That's pretty close to as long

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Speaker 1: It was pretty long when I see him, and the

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way they went back, I'm like, okay, look, could have

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been like two horns. I wasn't thinking about horns then

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on I think I seen was a brown ere coolor

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zeros go back. But they were more pointed than Zero's ears.

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Speaker 2: That's just amazing, it really is. Did this ear seem

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to be on the sides of its head or more

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Speaker 1: It was more on top of his head, more on

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the top, further up than zeros would be basically proper

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above his eyes. If you take it and take both.

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His eyes would pretty wide apart and go up those

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ears nearly level with his eyes.

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Speaker 2: So pretty much the same positioning as a German shepherd.

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I expected. Did it have its mouth open or closed

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Speaker 1: If mouth stayed closed the entire time, never open, his

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mouth never showed any teeth or nothing. Yes, stood there

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looking at me frozen.

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Speaker 2: So if he kept his mouth closed the whole time

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and it never showed its teeth. With a lot of

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dog men, even though their mouths are closed, you can

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still see their canines protruding, it sounds like you never

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Speaker 1: No, maybe they would have been protruded. But like I say,

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its head was down, and it had it down like this,

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all I could see was the black tip of its

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nose at the bottom of the window and his nose

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going leading them up into his eyes, And I like,

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maybe if it had his nose out straight out, maybe

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she may have been protruding out Kate and I might

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have been sticking out. But like I said, it was

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face to face and I was looking at it face

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down and never see any teeth. Glad, I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I bet you are glad. I'm glad you didn't

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see any either. That wouldn't have been good at all.

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When it held its head down in a posture where

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it was almost looking through its eyebrows at you. I

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don't know if a dog men his eyebrows or not.

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I guess they don't. But anyway, had that head down posture.

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Did you get the impression that did that, because if

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it would have had its muzzle up pointing straight at you,

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that it would have had a hard time keeping both

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eyes on you. Or do you think it kept his

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head down so it was less intimidating to this little boy.

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Speaker 1: No, I guarantee you kept his head down because of

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the snout that I know now was too long for

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it to be that close. So it had to put

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it snap down because, like I said, it was a

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very small one and pretty much if it snout was up,

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it would have been sitting back. It would have been

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back a lot further from that window. So so his

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hand is snapped down, it's closer with his eyes.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Yeah, So if it's eighteen inches away

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from you, that makes sense. Then its forehead was probably

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nine inches from the glass, and your face was probably

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nine inches so that does make sense. If it had

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its head up, it couldn't have been that close.

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Speaker 1: Nope. Wow, And that's what tricked me. That's what tricked me.

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I didn't at first. I didn't recognize the snout until,

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like I said, when Zero didn't, and it took me

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back to that night, just as if I was there,

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and I'm like, okay, and I remember the snout down,

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seeing the tip of the black nose, perfect example.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say it must have been. Before I go

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any further with the questioning, I want to post a

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picture of your main man here, Zero, so I want

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to see him there.

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Speaker 1: He is. How old is he that? He's two years old?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's adorable, he really is.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly how that thing had his head down

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like that, and I was looking at it.

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Speaker 2: I can only imagine the thoughts going through her head.

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But I can't say that enough. I said that a

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couple of times, and I just can't say it enough.

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I can't only imagine what that must have been like.

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Speaker 1: Man, I gotta say I got that thing now that

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when I say it's trunk down and I got him,

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That's what I that would always tell myself if you

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shrunk down and came back to me.

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Speaker 2: That is amazing. So the same proportions everything, the length

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of its ears to the size of its head, everything

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was the same, pretty.

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Speaker 1: Much, pretty much the same. It just giganic. Just takes

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zero head and sharp nose hills a little bit, put

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them a little closer inward, and make his head the

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side of a probably a basketball with a football sticking

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out of it. And you got that thing.

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Speaker 2: So the same eye color, same nose color, everything.

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Speaker 1: Ye had the black nose like it was a little

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bit dark and you see a little brownish song I

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guess on zero note. But his nose was solid black

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and nose scratches of anything had that. And fir was beautiful.

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It was nice. Peanut butter cardboard colored was not. It

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just just seemed like it was groomed. And that's what

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got me. I'm looking at something up there, and that's

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the reason I wasn't scared, because it didn't look shaggy,

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raggedy or it beat up with muddy and nothing like that.

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It just like it was a well groomed Maybe the

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body wasn't, but I didn't see that wish I would have,

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but I didn't see the body.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the strange, many strange things about these guys.

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So many incredible eyewitnesses, such as yourself, they report that

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just left the groomers look to them where they're first perfect.

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Others see nasty ones, that kind of mangey, but a

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lot of them report that that the dog men they

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saw were just clean. It really makes you wonder how

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that could be. But even though we wonder how that

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can possibly be, it seems like that's a pretty common thing.

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So it is what it is. Yeah, it is. Now

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this might seem like a strange question, but you were

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so close to its face. You're the perfect person to

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ask at any time. Did you ever notice if it

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had any whiskers or not.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see any. Quis good if it did. I mean,

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like I say, once I looked up and seen the

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blacken up his nose, and his ears went back, and

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my eye automatically went back to its eyes, and from

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that moment on we locked eyes. I see. I mean

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I could see my peripheral vision the face and all that,

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but the eyes were the most important thing I was looking.

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I was just looking at his eyes, and it was

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looking at me. It never took his eyes off me.

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I think I took my eyes off for in a

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couple of times. See was anybody else waking up? And

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looked over at that clock and shifted my eyes slowly back,

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still looking at me. Didn't moved a muscle, nothing moved.

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Maybe it fighting me in moved. I didn't know, because,

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like I said, I didn't see it. But his head

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never moved. Its hands never moved again, and they were

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hands like zero, but longer, a lot longer.

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Speaker 2: You can say a lot of things about that dog, men,

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but one thing you can't say is that he was

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some comfortable with eye contact. Have you kept eye contact

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with you the whole time, all forty five minutes? That

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says it all?

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Speaker 1: Right there?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it really does. Now you've got a

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really good look at its hands you just said. Was

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there anything notable though about its fingers that you noticed?

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Speaker 1: They were long and bent bent inwards? It had because

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we were scratching. I seen them as it was still scratching.

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The screen was pretty much torn and gone. It's just

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a little window. It couldn't open this little small window,

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and I guess it had tore through the screen. And

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what woke me up is when it started tapping on

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the window. So the way its fingers were, both of

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them were up there and they was bent forward. When

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I looked up and it just frozed both fingers, both

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hands was in the same position, just really long, folded

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over like that, and it frowed just it just froke,

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froze out, and it looked at me. The only other

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movement it made one it went back. That was it

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brown hand that you see, a sharp brown furt like

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it's net here Zero's trying to jump up on the bed,

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but just like he has just stretched out so long.

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And the way that little seal came up on the window,

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I couldn't see if it had. I'm sure it did

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because they tore that screen, but I didn't see that

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any claw or anything.

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Speaker 2: I put some thought into whether I was going to

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ask you this or not, and I think I'm just

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going to ask you at anytime after having that experience, James,

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do you ever start to wonder how many times how

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many nights you were laying in bed and I paid

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your visit, but you didn't know about that.

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Speaker 1: From that night forward, every time we visited back up then,

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like I say, I always slept over there by that window.

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I made it my business to lay at an angle,

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and I washed that window until I fell asleep. And

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I used to think, even to this day, I think

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how many times that thing washed up in that I know,

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how many time it washed my grandparents, my mother in

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the other room. How many time it's been down there

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by that corn and was just washing up, pushing those

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tires and playing cops and robbers or down there in

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that ditch. I mean, how many time it's been watching

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the mister l who stayed about one hundred yards up

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in my grandfather and it's fun about six hundred yards down.

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How many times it had it been to their house

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as a visited any you know those three houses, I've

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seen it want a little bit further up, but it

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just shocking to say, okay, we've been down here at night.

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I used to be outside by myself at night, just

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sitting on the hood of my mama car looking at

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the dogs. How many time would I think behind the

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shed looking at me, could have been opening that ditch

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looking at me. It didn't know, but it put me

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on the alert.

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Speaker 2: Ill bet it did. Back to the hands there, James,

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when it comes to the joints of its fingers. It's

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been a long time so you probably don't remember this,

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but did you buy chance notice anything about it joints

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that seemed a little off that you can remember.

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Speaker 1: It's joints. It was like almost like three joints were

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to the hand, like it could bend it. Well. We

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got on our fingers about an inch the little slot

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in the middle of it, and it was so long.

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It just looked like just stretching the dogs all out

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and almost like it's formed a hand, like it just

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a dog paul so big that I don't know of

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the actual hands, but they reassemble basically my hands, just

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one hundred times long with color. I'm about to saying

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close zero and its paws just stretch them out and

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I could see they was just long and bent over

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like it was almost a fist, about half a fist.

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It was just like this right here, but three times

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longer than mine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do have big hands. I don't know if

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you knew this or not, but the really big ones

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twelve footer. It can have hens as big as a

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trash can lead.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, they were big.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all no doubt. They get really big yeah, that's

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big enough to reach around your waist almost to pick

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you up. Yes, yeah, that's too big. Right there after

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the fact, you and your brother thought about the possibility,

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But did you think about how easily that dogged man

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could have come into your house broken into your house

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before you fell back to sleep that night.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I was thinking about as I laid back,

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like I said, it was an outhouse back there, and

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my grandmother and my mom they wouldn't go out there.

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They had a pan or that they were even lead themselves.

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But my grandfather and me and my older brother, we'd

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take our younger brother that they need to go use

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the our house, and we go out of ourselves solo.

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Me and my older brother called like I said, we

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didn't was scaling nothing. But at that time, I was like,

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I hope I don't hear that back go open, because

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I know if either my granddad's going out or I

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could tell if my brother's going oucause he was the

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end of the bed, that it would have had to

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be my granddad. And I would have jumped up then

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and said, okay, don't don't go out. There's something out there.

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And I was just hoping that none of my siblings

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woke up, especially the younger one that called, it would

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have been a panic. They'd have seen that thing. And

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I know, especially the youngest one, if you set up

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one of other name with my sister, he would have

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went to screaming and what's that thing? Any wonder? And

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I don't know what would have happened.

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Speaker 2: Thankingnes that didn't happen, although that dog man really does

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seem like it was one heck of a cool, calm,

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customary dog man. So even if they would have woke

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up and started screaming, I don't think it would have

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done anything dangerous like that. But then again, I can't

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think for these things. All I can do is guess.

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That's all I can do. Now we've already established the

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fact that you two remained locked face to face for

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about forty five minutes. But as far as you locking

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eyes with it and staying locked with it that long,

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was that because you weren't afraid of breaking the window

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and grabbing you or was it for another reason?

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Speaker 1: Well, I wasn't afraid to cause, like I say, the

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side of that window it probably could have been big,

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as it would probably could have knocked that in time

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side that being a little walls of the house. But

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at that time, being so young and not really knowing

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what it was, the side of that window. If it

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would have broke that window, the only thing he could

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have put it. Couldn't even put his head in there.

478
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,880
It would have been able to just put his arms

479
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,079
in there. One of his arm probably could have came

480
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,480
in there, but as far as it would have went,

481
00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:38,240
and I would have just scurried on over to the

482
00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:40,160
other side of the bed. And like I say, I

483
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,519
knew I seen it in the window, and I knew

484
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:44,960
it couldn't get in that window to me at that

485
00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:48,039
time because of the smallness of that window. It could

486
00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:49,640
have easily got in one of those back doors. But

487
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:51,480
like I say, it didn't seem to me like it

488
00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:53,079
went anywhere near the fact because it was still in

489
00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:55,400
the window. And like we had two loaded shotguns on

490
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,160
the end of the bed down there, and I could

491
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,279
have got to them shotguns far before UD have got

492
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,759
to that. Well, I don't know how fast I heard

493
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:04,759
it really fast, but as far as it getting in

494
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:07,000
that back door, I'm pretty sure me and my brother

495
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:08,960
had those shotguns in our hands before it comes through

496
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,799
that door. And if it would have buffeted that winder,

497
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,759
he could have just only stuck his hand in there.

498
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:15,319
That's as far as I knew.

499
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:18,079
Speaker 2: If it would have come to that door. I'm not

500
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,079
too sure that the guns would have kept you saved

501
00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:23,880
from it. It's hard to say. Sometimes guns are effective,

502
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,079
sometimes they aren't. I'm just so glad. I'm tickled pink

503
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,880
that you never had to find out. Thank goodness, me too.

504
00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm glad. Like I say, we, like I said, get

505
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,720
that young age and they have the boat like a

506
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,119
shotgun and brother had a revelation twelve gage pump action shotgun.

507
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,839
And when I say, at that age, and we were

508
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:45,400
thinking we were indestructible anywhere, we were like a thing

509
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,200
because the gun could stop anything. And that's pretty much

510
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,359
what really kept me from really panicing of being afraid.

511
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,920
Like I said, I don't fear pretty much nothing but

512
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,519
a catfish. But I wasn't scared because, like I say,

513
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,799
it didn't show any aggression at all, and that pretty

514
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,680
much kept me calm on, like, Okay, this thing is

515
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:08,960
looking at me whatever it is, and everything I know,

516
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,160
I'm wope.

517
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,079
Speaker 2: Well, you deserve a lot of credit, James for holding

518
00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:16,559
it together. Because very few people could have held it

519
00:28:16,599 --> 00:28:19,920
together close as well as you did. Most people they'd

520
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,799
be sucking soup through a straw the rest of their lives.

521
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,759
But yeah, you had that experience, a really intense experiences,

522
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,839
not because of how the dog man behaved, but eighteen

523
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,160
inches or less from that dog man face to face

524
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,160
with it for forty five minutes, that's still intense, and

525
00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:38,799
you're still holding it down. So, like I said, you

526
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:42,160
deserve a lot of credit for that because you've done something.

527
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,599
You're doing something that very few people could do.

528
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: Also, my brother, like I think, when he told me,

529
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,240
like I say, I'm chalking up as a dream. The

530
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:52,000
next morning he told me, did you see that thing

531
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:55,279
in the window? So evidently it really didn't, you know,

532
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,519
put too much of fear in him, because, like I said,

533
00:28:57,599 --> 00:28:59,480
he saw it at some point when he saw it

534
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:01,519
before I woke up, Well, he saw it after I

535
00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:04,920
laid back or when I fell asleep. That we never

536
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,319
discussed that. I don't know what time he saw it

537
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,240
or when he saw it, but I know he saw

538
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:10,559
it too.

539
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say that's undeniable there Before I go any further.

540
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,440
If you're in the live chat and have any questions

541
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,119
you want me to ask James for you, please type

542
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:26,319
it in all caps. That way I won't miss it. James,

543
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,880
I'm so glad your encounter didn't stop you from heading

544
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,400
back into the woods. But can you do that present

545
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:36,240
day and enjoy yourself or are you still looking around

546
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:40,720
and almost paranoid about the possibility that another dog man

547
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:41,519
might be out there?

548
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: No, I go fishing. I go hunting. I got a

549
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,319
friend that own a ranch, and we go out to

550
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,519
his ranch and he got targeting and stuff that that,

551
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,640
and we go out there and say in our shotguns

552
00:29:54,640 --> 00:30:00,279
and rifles, and I mean about it's there. I want

553
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:02,319
to start getting night time. But I'm looking around. But

554
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,720
like I say, I'm the type of prayerson I got

555
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:09,200
fully full company. I'm saying my weapons, not that I

556
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,440
would use them. I mean i'd rather, like I say,

557
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,599
the riffles I got in the shots I got, they

558
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,200
got infrared and they can also record, and I would

559
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:20,960
love to see one try to record it. As far

560
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,839
as shooting it, note, I'm not I'm not gonna shoot

561
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:25,759
one if if that's the last thing I want to do.

562
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,160
I just want to put one of my knight business

563
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,799
camp which I can actually take it off the gun

564
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:32,720
and use it with my hands. I got several of

565
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,119
them that I could do that with. But like I say,

566
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,720
I want to see another I want to see a

567
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,680
full body. I just don't want to see their hands,

568
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,559
ears and face. I want to see jif how big.

569
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,480
I know they get big, and I know people describe

570
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,720
them seven to twelve foot time. I want to just

571
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:55,759
see one fully riding bypassing by eighty miles an hour.

572
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,240
I keep going, I just want to see one.

573
00:30:59,839 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: You never know, somebody down the road, you just might

574
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,400
see another one. If you do have another encounter, though,

575
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,359
I sure hope it's a good one. It's one that's

576
00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:09,480
not going to rattle you the way this one did.

577
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:12,839
It was pretty I'm not going to say it was benign,

578
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:16,359
but that encounter was as benign as a dog me

579
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,119
encounter could be. A dog mean encounter can be almost

580
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,759
I mean, you were eighteen inches away from it face

581
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,160
to face, so that right there is pretty intense. Whether

582
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,680
it snarled that you were acted aggressive, but still, I mean,

583
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,200
everything considered, it was a pretty good dog mean encounter.

584
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,759
Speaker 1: That's a good bang. I being at that age student

585
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:43,359
high school and like I say, I was just young

586
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:50,640
and old that feared nothing. Nothing. I've been in cages

587
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,039
with bulls and on the back of farcing down in Avery, Georgia,

588
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,960
and they wasn't broken in or just this was getting

589
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:03,000
nothing anywhere. I wanted to go clem trees, hanging out

590
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:05,640
bridge and hanging up a side of the usfnmics of

591
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:11,759
aircraft carrier CBN sixty eight. And it came into swimming

592
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:15,000
with snakes, didn't It didn't catching them. It didn't make

593
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,680
no different with it. Would I just wasn't skinner man

594
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:21,279
saying now, if that thing would have been growling small

595
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,000
and showing teeth and out of it probably so.

596
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:28,839
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that would change everything. Like I said before,

597
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,920
Thank goodness it wasn't that way with you, because that

598
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,640
would have definitely changed the complexion of it. It really

599
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,400
would have. Like I said, everyone, if you have any

600
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,720
questions you want me to ask James for you, if

601
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,119
you're in the live chat, please go ahead and type

602
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,440
it in all caps. That way I won't miss it. James.

603
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,240
After mister l cited in your scope for you, you

604
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:50,119
said that you had a lot of confidence when it

605
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,319
came to your ability to hit what you're aiming at.

606
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,000
But if that dog man would have come back around

607
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,799
that night, the night that you and your brothers saw it,

608
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,960
and or later on I'm laying in that ditch, how

609
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,119
sure are you he actually would have shot.

610
00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: It, because, like I said, after he sighted that riffling

611
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:13,039
in and to this day, I can take my riffle

612
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,079
and hit targets at one thousand yards.

613
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:18,559
Speaker 1: So it's I mean, it's easy. I've done it all

614
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:20,240
my life, like I said, me and my older brother,

615
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:22,319
we started out with pellet guns. We got so good.

616
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:26,119
We set the pet six sit matches, little strike matches

617
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,960
out there, the boxes out there and the matches, and

618
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,640
then shooting with pellet guns and I come over with shotgun.

619
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:34,319
With the spread of the buck shots of bird shots

620
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:36,079
coming out, we don't have to really too much aim.

621
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:38,359
But I got so good with that thirty dollars sick

622
00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:40,720
and still I got thirty or six. Now I can

623
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:43,400
hear anything. I can hit a candload at five hundred

624
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,960
yards for that thing with that high power scope. It's

625
00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:49,279
child's play.

626
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: You're a nail driver.

627
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: Then, oh yeah, I'm one of the best. I consider

628
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,839
myself one of the best. I want to be the best.

629
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can understand why. If you can do that,

630
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,359
you're surgical. You've always been one of those people who

631
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,559
have had to see it to believe it. James, But

632
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,239
did your dog be in the encounter have any effect

633
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,440
on that present day? Are you more open minded or

634
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,199
are you're still skeptical about things?

635
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: I was skeptical up until that point when until the

636
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:25,159
z Road got up on my offer, and because like

637
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,480
I say, I talked when I said, I used to

638
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,639
watch your dog man in counters, and I say, you

639
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,199
know a couple other people and sasquatching counters, and I'm

640
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,559
chalking up, okay, misidentifications. Somebody putting a suit on and

641
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:40,519
their friends over on one side of the road, and

642
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:42,320
as soon as a car come by, they run across

643
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,960
with the suits and then it free and take pictures

644
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,159
of it and hop on the back of the truck

645
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:48,480
and they go home and they go there clan they

646
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,840
seeing a sasquatch or a dog man. I don't think okay,

647
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,800
could have been a hologram. That means they something could

648
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,760
be a hologround projector or something like this right here.

649
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,119
A lot of people say, man, look like it was

650
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:02,159
floating right across the street, and I said, Okay, if

651
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:04,000
there could have been a holler round projected or something.

652
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,880
It's just all kind of wild. Things went through my

653
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,400
mind to try to rationalize the encounters I was seeing

654
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,239
on telling me you knew that. I know that I've

655
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:19,639
seen a live one, a real breathing, live one. And

656
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,920
I chalked it up. Like I say, and if people

657
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,760
making miss identifying a bear stand up against a tree

658
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,400
scratching it back like they do, maybe they saw that

659
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,000
maybe a deer was at an awful position. They said

660
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,119
that how long the dog man was going on four feet?

661
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:37,400
I'm thinking, okay, maybe you've seen one dog man with

662
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,840
his head down and another one was head up and

663
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,719
standing close to each other, and you misidentify that from

664
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,280
a distance how long it was? But like I say, now,

665
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,480
I know those people actually saw those things because I

666
00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:49,159
saw one.

667
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah that you did. No denying that.

668
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:54,559
Speaker 1: Now.

669
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,639
Speaker 2: Some of my witnesses, after having really traumatic encounters with

670
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,880
dog men, do all they can to wait even thinking

671
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,519
about them. Others, on the other hand, become obsessed with

672
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:07,679
trying to find out all they can. Which group would

673
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,039
you say that you fit into or fit somewhere between?

674
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: I fit in the group of trying to find out

675
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,039
every I watch your dog Man in Council every night.

676
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:22,679
Every night I watched, so I even go and watch

677
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,320
one that I've seen before, and I'm listening and I'm

678
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,280
taking in all the information I'm taking in the area

679
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,199
they've seen them in, if they showed the time line,

680
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,280
or whoever they seeing them at, especially like I hear

681
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,440
I'm here in Texas, Clean Texas, so close around like Austin,

682
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,800
lampasas Gatesville, and I heard a few people say they've

683
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,119
seen them in Gatesville because of a bunch of country

684
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:47,239
out there in Gatesville. I've even taken my car and

685
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,880
rode out that with my night vision goggle and just

686
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:54,519
park side the road and took that night vision thing.

687
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,079
It'll go at least eight hundred yards and just in

688
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:59,880
the area. It got to me a point. I just

689
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,280
I get obsessed with seeing a full body. Now I've

690
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,639
seen this. I've seen some tears and wild hob and

691
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,079
iyotas stuff like this round here, and I'm like, stand up,

692
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:14,960
please don't. I'm telling myself seeing it's kind of your

693
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,039
please stand up tell us it.

694
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: Huh, yeah, you really caught the bug. That's pretty normal.

695
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:25,639
You live your life believing that the world operates one way,

696
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,159
but some days, some night, more accurately, you find out

697
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:31,920
that the world is totally different than you've been told

698
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,400
it is. It's only natural that you're going to try

699
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,880
to investigate whatever it was that upsets your your worldview.

700
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,840
You're going to research that all you can. So, yeah,

701
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,760
that's what I would expect when it comes to how

702
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,880
you've responded. There's no surprise when it comes to that

703
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,000
to me at all. There really isn't. Well, let's get

704
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:53,599
to some of the questions from the live chat members.

705
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:57,079
The first one up is from Pancha Zorch and Poncha

706
00:37:57,119 --> 00:37:59,559
wants to know what its arms look like.

707
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't see any arms, like I say. The

708
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,880
only thing I saw was his hands, its face, and

709
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:11,039
then his ears and the way his hand was like

710
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:14,519
he had his hands down, but his arms down, but

711
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:17,320
his hands up and hands up fold up like a

712
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,039
half fist. And that's how I never just I wish

713
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:21,679
I would have seen the arms, so I couldn't tell

714
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:24,199
you how long they were or were they shaggy? Was

715
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:26,960
it sharp fur or long fur? I just seen the hands,

716
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,679
never seen his arms.

717
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:32,199
Speaker 2: So it had its hands up and over the window

718
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,440
sell the left. Yeah, yeah, okay, that makes sense. The

719
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,760
next one up is from the Wellye Belly and they

720
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,679
want to know what color was it. He said it

721
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,239
was peanut butter colored. But they also want to know

722
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,599
did it seem to be more of a puff than

723
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:47,239
an adult?

724
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: To me, it would just be I mean I get

725
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,360
at that time, well, like I say now, I would

726
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,920
put it as an a dope, pretty much an adult

727
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,119
as far as I know from what I've heard how

728
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:03,480
people seen, but like a sub adote. I put it

729
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:06,679
that way, a sub adope because, like I said, that

730
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,800
one though, we had to stand up on a tire

731
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:10,559
just looking at one and an I was at that

732
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:13,360
time five foot five, and I know that time was

733
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,639
at least three foot till I put that thing over

734
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,920
eight feet tall. And I don't know if it was.

735
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,960
It may have been bending over looking at the one

736
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,239
for an hour, I know, but I know it would

737
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,920
at least a little bit over eight feet tall.

738
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's big enough right there. The next question is

739
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,440
from Scott Lee. Scott wants to know now before I

740
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,159
ask this question, I'm going to qualify it. His question

741
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,480
if you listen to James talk about what he experienced,

742
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:45,239
you might say, okay, well Jeams already answered that. But

743
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,760
Scott wants to know. I'll just read this question and

744
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,760
then I'll finish qualifying it. Scott wants to know did

745
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,119
it have a terrifying look about it? Or was it

746
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:57,760
a beautiful one? Now, even though it wasn't apoplectic, it

747
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,199
was just looking at James through the window without showing

748
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,400
any expression, it still could have been this one, wasn't

749
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:08,960
It still could have been frightening to look at. So

750
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,920
don't just dismiss his question out of hand as having

751
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,639
already been answered. But yeah, just understand that even though

752
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:20,280
it wasn't acting aggressive towards James, it still could have

753
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:25,960
been frightening to look at. But yeah, I just wanted

754
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,719
to qualify that before I I do share this question

755
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,000
with you. Anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself. Scott's question

756
00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:34,800
is did it have a terrifying look about it? Or

757
00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:36,079
was it a beautiful one?

758
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: To me, it was a beautiful look. Like I say,

759
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,840
it looked like a giant version of zero. And now

760
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:49,639
I guarantee you that my younger sibling woke up heer

761
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,599
terror it would have scared them half to death. If

762
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:56,239
they're seen that the side of his head and you

763
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,360
know this fingers like the long hand fingers all that,

764
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:02,440
it would have gared them to death. Like I say,

765
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,679
I'm the type of person that I put my confidence

766
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,079
in those weapons, with the two shotguns we had down there.

767
00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:10,199
Plus it was my older brother was down there and

768
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,800
we both could shoot real goods. Were thinking at that

769
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,480
time those shotguns could stop anything. And that's me And

770
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:20,239
it wasn't aggressive look and so it never put any fear.

771
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,599
It startled me when I first looked up because I'm

772
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:26,840
trying to figure out what it was. I had I

773
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,679
went outside and things may have changed. I may have

774
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,039
been running back in that house.

775
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: Well yeah, you just might have an understandably so, and

776
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,800
you just mentioned that you're right there trying to figure

777
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,440
out what it was. This is the perfect question to

778
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,920
follow up that statement with cookies and Cream wants to

779
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,280
know do you think it was a male or a female?

780
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,039
Speaker 1: Dog man? If I had to make a decision, I

781
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:57,199
would think it was male because, like I said, it

782
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,360
had the same and Zero's a male and they had

783
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,000
the same black characteristic of him. Just what the wideness

784
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:07,239
up his head, bigger head. But some female you know

785
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,840
of animals that they're larger than the male, So it

786
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,960
could quite possibly have been a female. Like I say,

787
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,480
I didn't see Chester or anything. I just, like I said,

788
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:19,119
from the head ears and half that's it. So it

789
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:20,960
could have went both ways. It could have been male

790
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:22,880
or female. I just don't know.

791
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just doing the best you could to hold

792
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,320
it together and try to gather as much info as

793
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,840
you could. Like I said, I think you deserve a

794
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,440
lot of credit for the way you handle that. You

795
00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:39,800
really do. Most people wouldn't have done really as well.

796
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:43,199
This next question is from Wandering Bull three six nine,

797
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,639
and he wants to know how old were you. I

798
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:48,159
think you must have missed episode five ninety seven.

799
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: I was young. I was around between fifteen to fifteen,

800
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,159
sixteen years old, fourteen, fifteen to seventeen, I would put

801
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:58,159
it fourteen to seventeen years I know, I was still

802
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:02,159
in high school. And like I said, the running around

803
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:05,199
those pellet guns shot gun, they eventually thirty or six,

804
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:09,360
I didn't have sense enough to have fear. I put

805
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:09,880
it that way.

806
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:14,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how most of us were back then at

807
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:18,079
that age, so can't faultunate for that. It looks like

808
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:21,199
I must have missed episode five ninety seven, because she

809
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:27,440
wants to know, James, did you say you're afraid of catfish? Why? So?

810
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 5: My brother called a catfish at that pond behind my

811
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,719
granddad's house, and he had my granddad's old still relling

812
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,880
raw and very large catfish.

813
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,639
Speaker 1: And as he pulled them up on that bank, the

814
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:42,440
bank was like a slope, and that line broke and

815
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,920
that fish was flopping around trying to get back into

816
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,920
that water, and me, being an idiot, ran down there

817
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,599
and grabbed that fish with both my hands on the

818
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:55,679
side of his head, with those two whatever twenty things

819
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,000
on his side, and it must have stuck them both up,

820
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:03,199
and it made me turn it loose. And from that

821
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,159
day forward and to this day here, I will not

822
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,159
pick up a catfish for nothing.

823
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah it hurts, doesn't it?

824
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: Oh?

825
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:19,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll get your motor running. It looks like

826
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:22,199
the next question is from Lucky number six and he

827
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,559
wants to know where. She wants to know did James

828
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:29,800
see any here or fur or paw Prince left behind the.

829
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:35,159
Speaker 1: Next day nothing. Only thing that was noticeable was the

830
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:38,360
torn screen. We know for a fact that screen wasn't torn. So,

831
00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:40,679
like I said, was that previous day we pre say

832
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,320
hide and go seeking to get up there and looking

833
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,679
at our grandma would have killed us, My grandad would

834
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,159
have killed us. They would have told that screen and

835
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,440
the grass around the house. The house was sitting up

836
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,920
on bricks, old house and up home bricks or stone, bricks, whatever,

837
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,239
and couldn't see anything. And at that time I wasn't

838
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,400
thinking to go look at that field because the field

839
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:01,400
was plow up, but it had no plants there, and

840
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,400
it probably was footprints out there, but we weren't even

841
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,360
thinking about that, about looking for footprint. I wish I

842
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,679
would have, but we weren't even thinking about looking for footprints.

843
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,679
Speaker 2: Well, it's totally understandable, it really is. It's not until

844
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,079
recent times when the idea of trying to collect evidence

845
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:21,840
is really in the forefront of most people's minds when

846
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,199
it comes to an experience like that, so totally understandable.

847
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:29,360
It looks like the next question is from Wandering Bull

848
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,960
and Wandering Bull wants to know James, at any point

849
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,199
did you think to take a picture of the dog men?

850
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: I had nothing at that time. To take a picture

851
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,840
with it. Nothing, no back they have no cell phones

852
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,840
back then with us. If they were, we didn't know

853
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,840
about them. And the camera was an old polar rob

854
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,920
that I could shoot the picture out, but we didn't

855
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,039
have anything like that. I say, I wished I would have.

856
00:45:53,159 --> 00:45:54,719
I definitely would have toruk a picture of it. But

857
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,599
like I said, probably even if I had a camp

858
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:58,639
I would have been thinking about that camera. I was

859
00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:00,480
just been looking at that thing. And that's what I

860
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:02,440
say about a lot of people think they got their

861
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,679
cell phones and they see the thing, that's first thing

862
00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:06,840
they think people are going to do if grab their phone.

863
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,639
Know that that half the people are being shocked. They

864
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:13,480
are not thinking about their cell phone. They're thinking about living.

865
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right. I heard somebody on a podcast

866
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:20,360
mentioned if we put you in a cage at the

867
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,880
zoo with a lion, how many pictures are you going

868
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,559
to get to that line? That's a great point.

869
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:29,639
Speaker 1: Zero, that's right.

870
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: I apologize if we've got that interference. Again, like I

871
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,360
said on an earlier episode, someone in the area where

872
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,000
the studio is has got an ungrounded antenna and that's

873
00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:44,199
what causes that sound. So again I apologize. Hopefully they'll

874
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,519
stop it. But the next question for you is from

875
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,639
Kelly in I think she missed episode five ninety seven

876
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,719
as well. Kelly wants to know where did this happen?

877
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:55,920
What part of the country.

878
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:02,079
Speaker 1: It's Georgia and it's Old Country or Bianna, Georgia or Vienna.

879
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,880
I pronounced that Vianna. It was in Vienna, Georgia. It

880
00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:09,719
was out from the town out in the country. Weighed

881
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,960
about five miles from town, out in the country, about

882
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,239
three miles away from Interstate seventy five that runs straight

883
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,440
through Cordia, Vianna, Dooley County all up Atlanta. It was

884
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,639
out in the country, got them with woods and fields.

885
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect area for a dog man to be. The

886
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,840
next question for you is from Michigan meat eater, and

887
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:38,760
he wants to know have you had any other experiences

888
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,280
after this?

889
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: No, and at that time I wish I did. Like

890
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,679
I said, after that, we've been down there one hundred

891
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,519
more times. Out said that I watched that wonder, never

892
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:53,840
seen anything about that. Didn't go outside and in the daytime,

893
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,840
I whatever. When I mentioned my dad brought to thirty

894
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,679
hour stix with the scope on it. I used to

895
00:47:57,679 --> 00:47:59,400
stand up on a big iron pot in the back

896
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,599
of my granddad out and just scan that tree line

897
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:05,400
where the pond was, hoping that I would see it.

898
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,559
Need come to drink some water or just walk out

899
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:09,679
or either stand there looking at me. I just I

900
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,920
just never sing it again. I want thing I heard

901
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,360
anything close about that is when my brother theyvenge had

902
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,480
a girlfriend, ain't Darthy when they said something ran out

903
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,280
in front of their car in front of Georgia Civik.

904
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:29,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, you handled it exactly how people would almost anyone

905
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:33,880
would handle a situation like that. So, yeah, that was

906
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:39,840
textbook how you handled that. The next question is from KL,

907
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,440
and KL wants to know did you say that from

908
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:48,440
Georgia that's my home state. Yeah, you just answered that,

909
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:51,079
so we can move on to the next one, which

910
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:54,079
is from to be or not to be? They wanted

911
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:56,079
to know did you feel like it was intelligent?

912
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,639
Speaker 1: Yes? I can tear from the eye that it was intelligence,

913
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,320
that those are I could look into his eye, same

914
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,559
with with Zero, like I say that same look in

915
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,360
his eyes, and I know Zero's intelligent. I've seen Zero

916
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,920
take a council in his mouth and get something from

917
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,679
on the table. I watched him do that.

918
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:22,119
Speaker 2: That is smart. Yeah, really smart little guy. This next

919
00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:25,880
one is from Spicy Housewife and she wants to know

920
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,199
has your family been informed about your encounter and if yes,

921
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:30,639
what was the reaction.

922
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,119
Speaker 1: No, I've never told anyone my family. The only one

923
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:36,880
I know about there was me and my older brother

924
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,679
because at that time, we didn't want to scare you know,

925
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,039
the younger siblings or the older one. My grandmother, my grandfather.

926
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:49,639
My mother thought we were probably was crazy, and we

927
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,239
never did tell anybody, And they didn't tell him one thing.

928
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,360
Because there's been times when my mother actually went down

929
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,199
there by herself and we stayed home, me and my

930
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,079
older brother to the younger of us right there, and

931
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:02,039
we wanted to tell them, but like I said, I brother,

932
00:50:02,159 --> 00:50:05,719
that thing probably long gone. So we never got because,

933
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,559
like I said, under the time after that we were dying.

934
00:50:08,599 --> 00:50:12,719
There nothing nothing even remotely close to it, anything coming

935
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,480
to that woman except for the little small are light

936
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:20,519
from the light that was oldbody shed. You never told

937
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:24,159
about mother or my grandmother, anybody. That only pace people

938
00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:25,639
I ever told what the people I worked with.

939
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,599
Speaker 2: It really was a different time back then. People are

940
00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:33,239
so much more open to things like this now than

941
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,599
they were back then. It's totally understandable why you didn't

942
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:40,559
share it. I get it. The next question is from

943
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:43,679
Christina easter Day, and she wants to know did all

944
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,519
your dogs react at all when this dog man was

945
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:48,360
at your window for forty five minutes?

946
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,159
Speaker 1: No, my dogs, they were in about twenty miles away.

947
00:50:53,199 --> 00:50:56,360
There was an airby charge at my grandmother's house on

948
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,000
my father's side. That's why I got was I never

949
00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:01,800
had a dog down to my grandfather's house. And my

950
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,960
granddad had two black Labrador Retrievers and that was at

951
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,440
that time I was probably about twelve or thirteen years old,

952
00:51:10,519 --> 00:51:13,119
And to this day, I don't know what happened to

953
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,800
those dogs. Only thing I know he had two levelod

954
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,480
we used to play with and after that they were gone.

955
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:19,920
And I actually I never had an owner doult that

956
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,480
I took down there to my grandfather's house and Bana

957
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:25,400
George that was my mother's mama and father. But I

958
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,639
never had a dog down there.

959
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: It does make you wonder how they would have responded.

960
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,199
This next one is from Christina Ysterday also and you

961
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,800
touched on this already. She wants to know what color

962
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,360
worthy eyes sin color is zero. I guess a darker

963
00:51:41,519 --> 00:51:45,559
brown in the dark brown or black. I think you said,

964
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:49,280
didn't you Yep, okay. And then she also wants to

965
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,480
know if it smiled at you, and you said that

966
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:53,360
it kept its mouth closed the whole time.

967
00:51:54,519 --> 00:51:59,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, kept no smile, no grimace, no bearing his teeth,

968
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,480
no lips going back like zero do sometime when I

969
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,559
accovate him. But nothing. It just it was like it

970
00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:10,519
was a somebody just put a picture of it there.

971
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:12,679
It was just that still. I know it was living

972
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,400
if I can look at it out. The only thing

973
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:16,400
moved with his eye when I laid back down, his

974
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:21,239
eye would just following minutes, three things moved, eyes, those hands,

975
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,760
and it was when it went back. That's the only

976
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,679
thing that moved on that.

977
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: Thing, other than being there at your bedroom window in

978
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,320
the middle of the night to handle itself about as

979
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,440
well as could be expected or hoped, so thank goodness

980
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,920
for that. Steven truth seeker wants to know if there

981
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:39,719
was a smell.

982
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: No, there was no smell, like I said, was I

983
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,840
was inside it was on the outside that no smell

984
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,639
whatsoever I could think of. No smell.

985
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: That answer is that Christine yesterday also wants to know

986
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,559
if it had tufts on the tops of its ears.

987
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,679
Speaker 1: I did. If it did, I didn't see it because

988
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,800
I didn't have time to actually focus in on his ears,

989
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,039
because as soon as I set up, its hands stopped,

990
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,320
and when his ears went back, that's when I looked

991
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,559
up and I called him going back. So I didn't

992
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:17,320
see that that that the tip of them that didn't

993
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,159
didn't have I just know they was just long and

994
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,760
pointed from the its head on up and its ears

995
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,519
went back before I can actually see the tip of

996
00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:27,840
they just folded back and they never came back up.

997
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 2: It's no chance to tell for that tufts. That's understandable.

998
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:37,880
It looks like no more. Fundland wants to know. Do

999
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,480
you have a history of any pure normal encounters other

1000
00:53:41,559 --> 00:53:42,480
than the dog man.

1001
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,039
Speaker 1: No, that's about the only thing other than this gigantic snake.

1002
00:53:49,159 --> 00:53:52,199
I saw. We well, we all saw that going across

1003
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,960
that that dirt road stretched from one end that dirt

1004
00:53:55,039 --> 00:53:56,440
road all the way across the other.

1005
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: Yes, that was fun, that rattlesnake. That was one heck

1006
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:05,400
of a specimen. If there ever was such a thing

1007
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,440
as a boon and crocket rattlesnake. That's definitely one that

1008
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:14,159
was it. That's a big one. This next one is

1009
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:19,079
from Currie Hellier, and Carrie wants to know, sorry if

1010
00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:22,199
this has already been covered James, but did the eye

1011
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,440
seem to have an illumination of their own rather than

1012
00:54:25,559 --> 00:54:26,840
just reflected eye shine?

1013
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: No shine whatsoever? Is I the brownish black eyes with

1014
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,679
a little bit of white I can see on both

1015
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,800
corners of it. And that was it. It wasn't no shining,

1016
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,840
no illumination in thathing regular dog black eyes to me.

1017
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:48,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, that helps too. There's no such thing as a

1018
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,159
dog man encounter that's going to give you the warm

1019
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:52,719
and fuzzies. But this one here that James had except

1020
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,639
for the fact that being so close to the window

1021
00:54:55,519 --> 00:54:58,599
everything besides that it pushes all the buttons for being

1022
00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:01,239
about as team as can be. Thank goodness for that.

1023
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:03,239
I still wish it wouldn't have come up to your

1024
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,079
window the way it did. But other than that, everything

1025
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:09,519
else it checks off all the boxes.

1026
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like I say, it wasn't no one that

1027
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:17,320
went aggressive, just like it was just like looking at

1028
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,760
the one like asci in time. Just look, okay, I'll

1029
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,440
see you. You see me. We just look at each other.

1030
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,639
And I guess when y'all fell asleep, maybe just say, okay,

1031
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:30,760
he's not looking at me anymore. You sleep by. Maybe

1032
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,519
it just walk. Maybe it just say, okay, you better

1033
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:36,119
I got away from the winder. I don't know.

1034
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 2: All we can do is guess. The next one is

1035
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,880
from Jennifer Christiansen and Jim wants to know did the

1036
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,199
dog man have claws?

1037
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:49,599
Speaker 1: If it did, I didn't see him, like I said,

1038
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:52,519
I had to have to to to that screen like

1039
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:55,239
it did. But like I said, the one I looked up,

1040
00:55:55,559 --> 00:55:59,119
his fingers was folded down and it froze, so I

1041
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,159
must have called it and down with motion. When it

1042
00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:05,480
froze up and it froze up, his eyes shifted. The

1043
00:56:05,519 --> 00:56:07,239
minute went back and I looked up in his ears

1044
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,800
right quick, and I looked back down in his eyes,

1045
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,960
and I just stayed locked with his eyes. But I

1046
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,440
see when I first seen his fingers, I can see him,

1047
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,079
you know, I'm looking at his eyes. I can still

1048
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,280
see the image of his fingers down there, but it

1049
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,119
was folded over, so I didn't see it. If it

1050
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:23,039
had closed or not, I'm pretty sure it did. And

1051
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:24,000
the way it throw that screen.

1052
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: Well, you deserve credit for noticing all that you did.

1053
00:56:28,639 --> 00:56:30,679
Like I said, a lot of people, most people wouldn't

1054
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:33,719
have noticed what you did, So hats off to you.

1055
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,800
I've got another one for you. This one's from Bang

1056
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,559
Bang and she wants to know, James, did you see

1057
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:40,639
it tapped on the window?

1058
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,079
Speaker 1: It was not I wouldn't call it tapping on the window.

1059
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:48,880
It was like it was like scratching on it. Cause

1060
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,199
once it got through that screen, that's when it hit

1061
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:58,920
his fingers start hitting that window. And I looked at it, like, yeah, okay,

1062
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,400
this thing. That's what woke up because I can, I can,

1063
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:04,880
I can hear like a bunch of and that's what

1064
00:57:05,039 --> 00:57:07,679
woke me up. And it was still going on, and

1065
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,039
so I'm like, okay, I woke up. Or something is

1066
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:12,719
tapping in that window or something that's tapping in this

1067
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,039
house somewhere. And as I set up and turned my

1068
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:22,519
head to the window, and wow, I said, what is this?

1069
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:29,079
Speaker 2: Oh I bet you said something worse than that, and understandably,

1070
00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:33,920
so I get it. This next one is from Frost

1071
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:36,599
m See Dill and they wanted to know when it

1072
00:57:36,639 --> 00:57:39,800
looked in the window, was it concentrating on him or

1073
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,840
was it looking up the inside of the room.

1074
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: It concentrated full attention was on me one hundred percent.

1075
00:57:48,599 --> 00:57:54,000
Is I never left me? It stayed focused on me

1076
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:55,719
in my eyes, like I said, I may. I took

1077
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,480
my eyes glanced away from it twice to see anybody

1078
00:57:59,519 --> 00:58:01,039
getting up, make sure women not trying to go out

1079
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:04,000
that door, and looking at that old grandfather clock, the

1080
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:08,519
little dim light. But its eyes never left me. It

1081
00:58:08,679 --> 00:58:11,360
stayed locked on me like like it was just just

1082
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:13,119
looking at it intrigue.

1083
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: You know when you're in the conversation with someone, how

1084
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,079
if you're close enough, you can notice I'm looking left right, left, right,

1085
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:24,119
left right, looking from one eye to the next and

1086
00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:27,000
back and forth. Did it ever do that with you?

1087
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:28,679
Or was it just locked in one eye of the

1088
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:29,239
whole time?

1089
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,239
Speaker 1: Locked on? Was it looking at me one eye like

1090
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,559
I say, when I looked at it, I'm my eye

1091
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:37,599
then moved. When I was sitting up, I'm looking into

1092
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:41,079
his vibe. It never blinked. Maybe if it did, I

1093
00:58:41,079 --> 00:58:43,360
didn't notice it like it never blinked. I'm just looking

1094
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,519
at it and bating the part of my month. I

1095
00:58:46,599 --> 00:58:48,880
laid back down at that angle and nearly laid on

1096
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,239
top of one of my brothers. And that's the only

1097
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,599
time is I moved boo and it kind of went

1098
00:58:54,719 --> 00:58:57,760
to the it space and the one that went back

1099
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,440
to the right because I was laying I laid back

1100
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:02,679
and at angles, I went to the looking at the

1101
00:59:03,159 --> 00:59:08,079
then move it out. Just his eyes moved, and at

1102
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:11,159
that time I could see more fright on its left

1103
00:59:11,199 --> 00:59:13,159
eye than the right one.

1104
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: That's called the sclera of the eyeball. You most have

1105
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,679
witnesses they never seeing that. So yeah, you were close,

1106
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:26,079
up close and personal. The next one for you is

1107
00:59:26,159 --> 00:59:28,079
from to be or not to be? And they want

1108
00:59:28,199 --> 00:59:30,119
to know, do you have any friends who have seen

1109
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:30,800
the dog man?

1110
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,159
Speaker 1: I had one. She comes to subway and that she's

1111
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:39,599
the one person I told and she called the werewolf

1112
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:41,960
and she said she's playing the werewolf, said she passed by.

1113
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:47,039
She was actually she was coming down one and she

1114
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:49,679
works in Georgetown. She was coming back home down one

1115
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:55,360
and said she looked over and seeing and I'm like,

1116
00:59:57,679 --> 01:00:00,960
why when I w you, I'm thinking that myself. And

1117
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,960
I told her about how I was gonna do this here.

1118
01:00:03,519 --> 01:00:06,480
She said, well, that's when she told me she did

1119
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:09,159
I've seen a were wolf. I'm like, okay, it's just

1120
01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:11,000
as a doult man. It's not a were wolf. It

1121
01:00:11,199 --> 01:00:13,800
call them dot man. I ended up telling her to

1122
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,599
the day she would still saying it was a were

1123
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:20,159
wolf standing up, walking on it's on two legs.

1124
01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: You know what they say, Misery loves company. Of course

1125
01:00:24,639 --> 01:00:28,079
you weren't rattled by that encounter. You're not miserable about

1126
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:30,519
that experience and just trying to deal with it, come

1127
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:32,920
to terms with it. But it still had to be

1128
01:00:33,519 --> 01:00:35,639
a source of comfort knowing that you're not the only

1129
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,559
person in the world to have an encounter with one

1130
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:40,480
of these things. Now you definitely know that, but back

1131
01:00:40,519 --> 01:00:43,199
then when you spoke with her, you found that out

1132
01:00:43,199 --> 01:00:46,679
pretty shortly after the fact, and thank goodness for that.

1133
01:00:48,519 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: And then the other one that was when, like I said,

1134
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,880
a guy, you're on the supermarket, Rachel supermarket. His name

1135
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,679
was mister Rachel, and I was in there one day

1136
01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:57,239
and he was telling about, you know, he had an't

1137
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,440
kind of with a sash squad night At that time,

1138
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:02,679
I'm highly skeptic. Go okay, yeah, here we go again.

1139
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,559
Somebody has seen a nine foot eight walking thing on

1140
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,840
the iron leg and I've been in these woods millions

1141
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:14,840
of times, hunting, fishing, climbing trees that was anything like that,

1142
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,000
And now I know how many times those things like

1143
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:18,800
that saw me.

1144
01:01:20,639 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty strange feeling.

1145
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 3: I know.

1146
01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:27,119
Speaker 2: It looks like shalam Shaw wants to know. Do you

1147
01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:29,360
think that if you hadn't woken up and saw it,

1148
01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:31,239
that it would have gotten into your home?

1149
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,559
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because that as flimsy as that

1150
01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:39,719
house was, if it wanted to come in, it could

1151
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,239
have gotten in. It took either one other doors. Like

1152
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,079
I say, they took the old house back there, and

1153
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:47,480
it took a nail and took a boy a six

1154
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:51,280
foot I mean a six inch by two inches a

1155
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,960
little more block of wood and knelt that nail through it,

1156
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,119
knelt it into that wall and then turned its sideways

1157
01:01:57,239 --> 01:01:59,800
and held that door closed. And that was the only

1158
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:03,159
thing holding that door open. And my mother had trying

1159
01:02:03,199 --> 01:02:06,800
to lock us. My younger brother hit that door thinking

1160
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,039
it was open, and knocked that nail in that piece

1161
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:11,119
of wood out that door, and that door flew right open.

1162
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,760
That thing could have just it could have come in there.

1163
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,280
With anybody knowing on the sign you would have heard

1164
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:19,519
or that nail and that piece of wood hitting that floor.

1165
01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:21,000
That's the only sign that would have heard.

1166
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: Well, as you know, it didn't have to use that

1167
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,280
door or any window or anything like that to gain entry.

1168
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,480
It could have come through the wall, any of the

1169
01:02:30,519 --> 01:02:33,840
walls in the home to get into the home. But yeah,

1170
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,159
obviously I didn't want to do that. And thank goodness

1171
01:02:36,159 --> 01:02:36,519
for that.

1172
01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:40,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, me and my older brother probably because I

1173
01:02:40,119 --> 01:02:42,719
guarantee you, if we really wanted to man it took

1174
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,320
us a little while, we probably could have went through

1175
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,920
that wall. It was just that thing.

1176
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,239
Speaker 2: Oh, I understand it looks like cookies and cream must

1177
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,960
not have heard episode five and ninety seven either, because

1178
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,400
you addressed that in that episode. But no harm, no foul.

1179
01:02:57,599 --> 01:03:00,960
Everyone's busy. They want to know. So did you see

1180
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,239
it leave or did you go to sleep?

1181
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: I fell asleep. I only think I know. I was

1182
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,639
laying back, almost on top of one of my brothers,

1183
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:11,960
and I was watching it and watching that last glance

1184
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,000
when I looked over and making sure nobody up, making

1185
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,880
sure I wouldn't see if my older brother was sitting up,

1186
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,159
anybody sitting up, I would have gepped my young wealth

1187
01:03:19,159 --> 01:03:21,039
and dead, and that that's when I've seen that. It

1188
01:03:21,159 --> 01:03:23,679
was three o'clock, getting close to three o'clock, and I

1189
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,559
just turned around, well put shifting my eyes back slightly

1190
01:03:26,599 --> 01:03:28,320
and kept looking at looking at looking at it, and

1191
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,400
next saying, I know I'm waking up.

1192
01:03:33,199 --> 01:03:35,119
Speaker 2: It does make you want to how long it stayed there.

1193
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,000
But it's a good thing you did just fall asleep,

1194
01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:40,800
because if you didn't, who knows what how much time

1195
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,079
would have gone by with you still there? Locked ey

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01:03:43,239 --> 01:03:43,679
die with.

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01:03:43,679 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: That, That's right.

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01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,079
Speaker 2: The next one is from Harrison Wargo, and Harrison wants

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01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:56,039
to know, apologies if this has been addressed, but what

1200
01:03:56,119 --> 01:03:58,280
was the overall feeling you got from it in the

1201
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,800
moments you had looking into its eyes while it was

1202
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,880
steering at him.

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01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: The very first feeling that came to me when I

1204
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:11,079
when I first set up it was unbelief. I'm like, okay,

1205
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,639
and then I'm shifted from unbelief. Though what is this?

1206
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,159
I'm trying to figure out what am I looking at?

1207
01:04:18,199 --> 01:04:20,280
What I mean, what's in this one? Is an owl?

1208
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,679
In this one looking at it is some raccoon or

1209
01:04:22,679 --> 01:04:25,639
something like that. I'm going through all the little things

1210
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:28,400
I've seen down there and those wheels down there, and

1211
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,960
like I said, I couldn't. I could not match it

1212
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:34,159
up with anything because the weight had his head down

1213
01:04:34,239 --> 01:04:36,880
and it, like I say, that basically tricked me because

1214
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,239
at that time I didn't realize that it's it was

1215
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,159
a snout down going down to zero, got into that

1216
01:04:42,239 --> 01:04:46,679
pasta and it just didn't. The feeling came over, like, Okay,

1217
01:04:46,719 --> 01:04:48,599
I'm curious. I'm trying to figure out what it was.

1218
01:04:48,639 --> 01:04:50,960
It's probably trying to figure out what I am. And

1219
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,639
I'm just looking at it and looking at it, and

1220
01:04:52,679 --> 01:04:55,480
I'm thinking, Okay, I'm looking at an alien from out

1221
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,000
a space or a monster or someun rock there. Because

1222
01:04:58,039 --> 01:05:02,679
like I say, back then, the term dog man never

1223
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,039
would have crossed my mind to turn well wolfed, Yes,

1224
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:08,880
well wolf crossed my mind. But the one I'm used

1225
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,400
to is just a regular man with a little fur

1226
01:05:11,559 --> 01:05:13,760
on his face, and he had no snot whatsoever, and

1227
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,599
he wasn't as tall as as victims. And well it's

1228
01:05:16,599 --> 01:05:18,880
big fling all that that one we've seen at the theater.

1229
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,079
Nothing that didn't look nothing like that. And so I

1230
01:05:24,679 --> 01:05:27,199
didn't have no kind of this curiosity. I'm trying to

1231
01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:29,719
figure out what it was what am I looking at?

1232
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,960
I'm looking at something that I've never seen before, so

1233
01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:34,239
I couldn't identify it to save my life.

1234
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:39,519
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're able to get some answers. Got one

1235
01:05:39,519 --> 01:05:43,880
more question for you, and this is from Becoming Ama

1236
01:05:44,199 --> 01:05:48,360
Marie and looks like Emia wants to know. Hey, James

1237
01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:51,199
can't remember from the first episode, and I'm just now

1238
01:05:51,239 --> 01:05:54,159
hopping on the live, but did you or your brother

1239
01:05:54,239 --> 01:05:58,559
ever mention your citing to your grandparents and if not, why.

1240
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,719
Speaker 1: Because I didn't want to put them out. I really

1241
01:06:04,719 --> 01:06:07,000
didn't want to scare anybody. My mother, my father, they

1242
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:09,199
probably want to believe me anyway that the first thing

1243
01:06:09,199 --> 01:06:11,159
they probably would have said, yeah, y'all was so bad

1244
01:06:11,199 --> 01:06:12,880
and probably de Ever looking at you in the wather,

1245
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,400
and I guarantee you that's what they would have said,

1246
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,039
and they wanted to believed me. And like I said,

1247
01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:20,239
all the time, me and my brother stayed down there

1248
01:06:20,519 --> 01:06:22,320
soil that time was in the dish trying to find it.

1249
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:23,960
And I'm looking at that one and all that he

1250
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:27,760
probably was too, and I'm scanning the horizon down there,

1251
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,719
never seen it again, so I picked it up, and

1252
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,480
that thing is long gone, so nothing to worry about it.

1253
01:06:32,559 --> 01:06:34,280
But I made sure I didn't take the boat out

1254
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,639
the shotgun with me, like we went to my other

1255
01:06:36,719 --> 01:06:39,719
grandparents' house in the airbage gearge I left the shotgun down.

1256
01:06:39,719 --> 01:06:42,039
I loaded, Like I say, buck shots love buck shots.

1257
01:06:42,039 --> 01:06:45,000
So I'm figuring my granddaddy see something like that. He's

1258
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,159
got that shotgun and so it really didn't worry us

1259
01:06:48,199 --> 01:06:50,239
like that. Plus mister l up there with its thirty

1260
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,960
or six and he shoot really good because he basically

1261
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:59,440
taught me, and I wasn't really worried. I'm figuring that

1262
01:06:59,519 --> 01:07:01,840
if I don't figure if I wasn't scared, and that's

1263
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,639
my grandparent, maybe he would have been scared.

1264
01:07:03,719 --> 01:07:07,599
Speaker 2: You know. I said this several times before I said

1265
01:07:07,639 --> 01:07:10,920
one more time. You definitely don't frighten easily. Holy cow.

1266
01:07:12,199 --> 01:07:18,039
I Oh no, I'd say you don't. Well, definitely closing

1267
01:07:18,159 --> 01:07:20,559
comments you want to share with us, James before we

1268
01:07:20,599 --> 01:07:21,239
get out of here.

1269
01:07:22,639 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like I said, I'm that one person that, yeah,

1270
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,000
all the skeptics on this planet, I was number one,

1271
01:07:32,039 --> 01:07:35,840
Like I said, I at that time, even after I've

1272
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,400
seen that thing in the window, I knew that was

1273
01:07:37,519 --> 01:07:40,360
things out that you couldn't explain. But like I'm saying,

1274
01:07:40,519 --> 01:07:43,480
for a being of sas squad, I'm that last person

1275
01:07:43,519 --> 01:07:46,760
on earth that would have believed in that. Like I said,

1276
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:52,599
I had a idea of what things were missed identification.

1277
01:07:53,639 --> 01:07:58,199
I even went as for a projection hologram and stuff

1278
01:07:58,239 --> 01:08:00,599
like that around people's and soups and all the people

1279
01:08:00,639 --> 01:08:05,480
with wouldn't put things making all that, and like I said,

1280
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,239
it took zero and I'm glad it did because it

1281
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,559
put my mind at rest. That was forty a little

1282
01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:16,039
bit over forty years, and all that time, I wonder

1283
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,159
what was it that I've seen? And I am so

1284
01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:21,960
glad that when I some wanted that dog and I

1285
01:08:22,079 --> 01:08:23,600
got him and I was playing with him that day

1286
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,520
and he got up on my arm, that put my

1287
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,760
mind at ease. I was so glad, And like everybody know,

1288
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:35,920
I know for a fact at least was one. I

1289
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,880
don't know if it's still alive. I don't know if

1290
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,880
it's still out there. I don't know if it went

1291
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:44,199
away from Jordan. I know for a fact that it

1292
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,319
was at least one of those things. And I'm pretty

1293
01:08:47,319 --> 01:08:50,760
sure everybody's seen these encounters and the different kinds I

1294
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,119
don't know about the different kinds. I know that kind.

1295
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,159
It's the one I saw. It may have been the

1296
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:57,239
same kind as everybody else seen. Like I said, I

1297
01:08:57,319 --> 01:08:59,520
only seen the face, hands and ears. That's why to

1298
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,479
this day I wish I would have seen his entire body.

1299
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,520
Probably would have scared me half to death then, but

1300
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,439
I still wish I would have seen that entire body.

1301
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably would have, but it is what it is.

1302
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:14,479
I mean, you obviously weren't in control of that encounter

1303
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,079
it was. I'm just glad that you saw it and

1304
01:09:18,119 --> 01:09:20,479
it was a good thing. It hasn't ruined your life.

1305
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,720
You can still function and do what you need to do.

1306
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:26,279
Thank Goodness for that. So I guess all we can

1307
01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:29,039
do is play the glad game on that. And before

1308
01:09:29,079 --> 01:09:31,279
the night, when you had that experience, you never would

1309
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:34,239
have believed that anything like that could be out there.

1310
01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:38,359
But after you had that experience, now you know there

1311
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,119
definitely are. But having said that, James, I can't thank

1312
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:44,239
you enough for coming on sharing the details of that

1313
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:48,039
experience for us and episode five ninety seven number one,

1314
01:09:48,199 --> 01:09:51,039
but for you to come back and answer all these questions.

1315
01:09:51,239 --> 01:09:54,119
Really appreciate that too, So thanks again so much for

1316
01:09:54,119 --> 01:09:54,640
your time.

1317
01:09:55,199 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: Now you're welcome, guinea time.

1318
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: It's appreciated well. Having said that, thanks again so much,

1319
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:06,680
and have a great night, so do you thanks, We'll see.

1320
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,680
Well that's it for another episode. Everyone. If you've had

1321
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,479
a Dogman encounter that you either want to speak with

1322
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,359
me about to get help coming to terms with or

1323
01:10:16,399 --> 01:10:18,159
if you want to be a guest on the show,

1324
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,479
please go to Dogmanencounters dot com submit a report and

1325
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,960
if you do that then I'll be more than happy

1326
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,159
to contact you and schedule a phone consultation with you.

1327
01:10:29,159 --> 01:10:31,520
There's no ever any pressure if you need help coming

1328
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,560
to terms with your experience. Of course, there's never any

1329
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,840
pressure to come on the show as a guest. A

1330
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,800
lot of the eyewitnesses I speak with, I speak with

1331
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,880
and in private you're never going to hear them on

1332
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,479
the show, so please keep that in mind. But having

1333
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,199
said that, thanks again so much for listening everyone. I

1334
01:10:49,239 --> 01:10:51,800
really appreciate it, and of course have a great night.

1335
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:15,159
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