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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the xs and ohs. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Jagan's aues.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we have Henry breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball breaking news on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty college football.

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<v Speaker 3>This weekend, Michigan defeated Ohio State thirteen to ten to

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<v Speaker 3>improve their winning streak and the rivalry to four games.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, let's talk about this real quick.

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<v Speaker 4>I show believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you so you you've seen this many times before.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw here with the pitchwork being done there in

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<v Speaker 2>the Michigan fiasco after the game. It happened like four

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<v Speaker 2>or five places, a.

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<v Speaker 4>Bunch of places, and they got bad.

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<v Speaker 5>So you have an issue with that. I do which part?

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<v Speaker 5>I I win the game and walk off the field

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<v Speaker 5>for oh, win the game the opponent? Yeah okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but if you're on the losing side, lose a game

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<v Speaker 5>and walk off, right, it's all it's all stupid on

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<v Speaker 5>both sides of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all dumb.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know we've seen it. You know there was

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<v Speaker 5>a fight a lot in the Macovic years. Remember when

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<v Speaker 5>when Macovics in his first year, they went up and

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<v Speaker 5>beat as U up at their place, Uh, Clarence Farmer

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<v Speaker 5>and all those guys went out and ran on the

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<v Speaker 5>on the sparky logo and stopped on it, and the

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<v Speaker 5>big ol'd ball started, and so this is this is

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<v Speaker 5>not anything new, but you know, and then the miss

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<v Speaker 5>the Michigan guy player who was the one who took

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<v Speaker 5>the flag out there and started the whole thing, gets

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<v Speaker 5>on and says, you got to be a better loser,

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<v Speaker 5>like you know what, be.

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<v Speaker 2>A better winner? True.

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<v Speaker 4>True.

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<v Speaker 2>So my thought is is that it's like the court

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<v Speaker 2>storm me. If you don't want it to happen, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't let it happen. Don't win the damn game, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>But I agree with coaches who say we're not going

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<v Speaker 5>to let guys do that. We're going to defend our field.

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<v Speaker 5>And so you know, just so you know what you

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<v Speaker 5>need to do, be civil. Well one time, what world

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<v Speaker 5>do you lose?

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<v Speaker 4>Good luck? And that good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, after the game, when I saw it happening,

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<v Speaker 2>and I made my joke, and usual joke is that's

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<v Speaker 2>the most fight Arizona showed doing the whole game, right

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<v Speaker 2>was after that because it showed some emotion for gud.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, I hear you, And I'm glad. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>there for that.

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<v Speaker 2>But what did you did you stay?

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<v Speaker 6>What did you think?

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<v Speaker 2>What'd you think?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad that uh Lamonious Correg came out and stopped

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<v Speaker 3>it before Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah, I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 5>And Arizona guy went out and did that, and the

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<v Speaker 5>other players come over and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I didn't see it because.

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<v Speaker 5>Even though you know, I got home and I was

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<v Speaker 5>watching the game, the minute the clock went to zero,

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<v Speaker 5>I changed the chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what did you say these What did you say

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<v Speaker 2>when you finished watching it?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I just changed the chaln and that was it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I went to I went to the the

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<v Speaker 5>Notre Dame USC game. But everybody needs to kind of

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<v Speaker 5>take a breath and and just be sports about do

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<v Speaker 5>you think that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we see in the short course in the court

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<v Speaker 2>stom me. Uh, they find teams down twenty five thousand dollars. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>The difference is, Steve. The court storming is the fans.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the fans getting excited and doing things we're talking

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<v Speaker 5>about the players in the games.

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<v Speaker 2>Get off.

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<v Speaker 4>Just win.

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<v Speaker 5>If you don't want to go shake hands because you're

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<v Speaker 5>so pissed off from frustrate whatever, then just get off.

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<v Speaker 5>The few think that the BENC Doubla or whomever, I

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<v Speaker 5>think they're gonna have to make a rule. I mean

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<v Speaker 5>Ohio State and Michigan players got pepper sprayed. Pat Forty,

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<v Speaker 5>who's on the show years ago, he got he got

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<v Speaker 5>pepper sprayed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't talk about it those podcast No, I don't. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you do.

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<v Speaker 7>Though.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's say you're an eighth year senior and you're the

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<v Speaker 5>guy that goes out and wants to plant the flag.

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<v Speaker 5>What's the n CUAA gonna do to you? Suspend you

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<v Speaker 5>for your next game?

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<v Speaker 2>Right right? Well, look at this. The guy who did

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<v Speaker 2>it year was.

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<v Speaker 8>It's on.

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<v Speaker 4>It's on the coaches. It's on the coaches. Just say, guys, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, when we win this game today and we are

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<v Speaker 5>going to win, you know, on you know, on the

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<v Speaker 5>road at the rival, we are going to win today,

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<v Speaker 5>Let's get on. Let's go on the field, shake hands,

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<v Speaker 5>and let's get out of there. Okay, let's not let's

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<v Speaker 5>not do this.

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<v Speaker 2>What world do you live in? Jacinbzali.

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<v Speaker 4>It can happen, Okay, it can happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens more often than not. But I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean when it went? When? When?

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<v Speaker 2>The when?

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<v Speaker 4>The the was it two thousand and two team, I

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<v Speaker 4>think of it?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 4>What was it? No, the two.

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<v Speaker 5>Thousand and three team, whatever it was the Macovics team

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<v Speaker 5>did that. I was upset at the Arizona players for

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<v Speaker 5>having done that, like show some class win with class off.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of years ago, I said that I saw

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody, no, every ever since then, everybody's been going over

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<v Speaker 5>there and and uh and uh, you know, the team

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<v Speaker 5>goes over and stands by the logo and says, you're

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<v Speaker 5>not coming over here.

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<v Speaker 4>Coaches show them off.

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<v Speaker 5>What pissed me off more than anything was the turd

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<v Speaker 5>who did it. It was a Narzona guy last time,

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<v Speaker 5>and then he goes and does that. That tells me

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<v Speaker 5>that he's a big pos, giant pos.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see it? Did you remember anything two years

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<v Speaker 2>ago for Arizona one up there and then did the

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<v Speaker 2>flag or whatever. I don't think they did, okay, because

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<v Speaker 2>I saw thread that we were just doing what you

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<v Speaker 4>I think they did last year. Yeah, don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe I don't know, I don't that's your song.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe they can, but again they just don't do it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's wrong for either side to do that. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm the believer. You just win the game.

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<v Speaker 2>You win the game, win with class and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and get off.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I would demand from my players if I'm

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<v Speaker 5>in the coach and I tell them that. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>when Arizona goes up to ASU next year, Brent Brinnan

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<v Speaker 5>needs a tellis team anybody who does that, you lose

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<v Speaker 5>your nil paycheck or scholarship.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, don't do it. Just don't do it, as

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<v Speaker 4>simple as that.

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<v Speaker 3>On Friday, Georgia defeated Georgia Tech forty four to forty

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<v Speaker 3>two in eight overtimes.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a great game. Did you watch the game?

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<v Speaker 2>It is a great game, great game, and they came

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<v Speaker 2>back out of nowhere and won the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 5>So much happened again this weekend, you know, with all

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<v Speaker 5>the all these games that affect the playoff, it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>South Carolina defeated Clemson seventeen to fourteen to keep their

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<v Speaker 3>playoff hopes alive with just three losses, when.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna announce everything this Saturday, Sunday, whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>Sunday Sunday, and another ranking will come out tomorrow, but

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<v Speaker 5>then on Sunday the playoff bracket will be announced after,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, because all the championship games are on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 5>so Brack will be announced. Who do you you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, there's kind of I was reading Pat Forty's

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<v Speaker 5>column today. There's eleven teams that are pretty much in

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<v Speaker 5>the question is who's the twelfth team? Right? Does the

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<v Speaker 5>Big twelve championship loser get in? Does the ACC championship

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<v Speaker 5>loser get in? You know, you know who gets in?

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<v Speaker 5>Is there another group of five team who deserves to

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<v Speaker 5>be in there? You know, to Lane what it made

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<v Speaker 5>it had an argument for until they got beat.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of like there's not enough teams now. So the

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<v Speaker 5>twelfth team there's gonna be that gets in. There's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be about six other teams that are gonna go that's crapy, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know the top twelve off the top of your head.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, so yeah, I mean I can give you

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<v Speaker 4>the eleven.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, the eleven, the winner of the Big twelve champion

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<v Speaker 5>Big ten championship game, and the Ohio State and Oregon State,

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<v Speaker 5>Ohio State, Indiana from the four from there, Georgia's in.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>The who are they playing in the in the conference

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<v Speaker 5>championship game? Texas is in and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee, Tennessee is in.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, then wait to go Okay. Then you've got the

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<v Speaker 4>Big twelve champion.

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to be s m U or Iowa State,

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<v Speaker 5>the a SEC champion, it's going to because I mean

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<v Speaker 5>not s U a SU or Iowa State, s m

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<v Speaker 5>U or Clemson, the the nine Notre Dame is ten,

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<v Speaker 5>and then the Boise State you n l V winner,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, winner of the of the Mount West Conference

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<v Speaker 5>is eleven. Then you then after that you've got Alabama,

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<v Speaker 5>South Carolina, Mississippi, the loser of the Big.

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<v Speaker 4>Twelve championship game, the loser.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the a SC championship game, and Miami can all

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<v Speaker 5>say it should be us. That's the one that's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be hard, and that's the one that's gonna cause a heartburn.

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<v Speaker 5>Not any different than when.

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<v Speaker 2>There were four teams in No, no, no. On the

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<v Speaker 2>fifth team was you're exactly right, because I'm already looking

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<v Speaker 2>at Oh, we gotta move to sixteen teams, you know, to.

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<v Speaker 5>Make sure everybody gets happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we do it with seventeen. I think they went

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<v Speaker 2>to sixty eight instead of sixty four. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't to make everybody happy. Shut up, you play, win

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<v Speaker 2>the game, and you win it.

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<v Speaker 5>When the damn game, you know, Alabama says we should

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<v Speaker 5>be in, right, you should want some games.

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<v Speaker 4>The a SEC commissioner came out and said.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no there's no scenario where are the loser of

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<v Speaker 5>our championship game should should be out?

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<v Speaker 4>You know it's a former get Yeah, they're gonna it's

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<v Speaker 3>NFL Week thirteen This weekend, the Eagles beat the Ravens

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<v Speaker 3>on the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Sakuon Barkley.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's been good.

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<v Speaker 5>He's my fantasy running back. Oh oh, you have him

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<v Speaker 5>screwed and screwed up his car. No, here's still time.

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<v Speaker 5>But what's his name? The tight end for the Saints,

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<v Speaker 5>Taysom Hill. Taysom Hill out out for the year. With

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<v Speaker 5>that run, right, I killed him, I think so, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I killed him.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bills defeated the forty nine Ers thirty five to

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<v Speaker 3>ten on Sunday Night Football to also improved to ten

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<v Speaker 5>No one wanted to be and Christian McCaffrey and you

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<v Speaker 5>have him too, No, but my sister has him.

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<v Speaker 4>So my sister, my daughter has him. So there's a

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<v Speaker 4>little tie there. She's very upset.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And Monday Night Football tonight at six fifteen, the Browns

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<v Speaker 3>play the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have that game.

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<v Speaker 4>That's my last game of our picks. Not going so

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<v Speaker 4>well for me.

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<v Speaker 2>This week started started with started.

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<v Speaker 5>With locking the Lions who didn't cover. I was so

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<v Speaker 5>mad at them stretching the lead a little yeah, a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit. I had the Lions. I had Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought Ohio State was gonna come out and revenge.

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<v Speaker 5>We're kicking your ass. And they did end they just didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan has the momentum.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I heard I heard an interesting scenario because

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<v Speaker 5>good free. Yeah, Marcus Freeman, he played, he played in

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<v Speaker 5>Ohio State. They're saying Ohio State, Notre Dame, trade corder

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<v Speaker 5>trade coaches and would said Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 4>Who would be the loser on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's he's a good story too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's a really good story.

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<v Speaker 3>College basketball, the new AP pole came out today. Arizona

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<v Speaker 3>dropped from the rankings. Yukon dropped to number twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>after losing all three games in the Maui Tournament. Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a crazy season already. We'll get to basketball

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of when we talked to Jason Barr,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's been crazy all over the place.

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<v Speaker 5>What about what about Hurley's reaction saying we're never playing

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<v Speaker 5>in a three team in a three team three three

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<v Speaker 5>games and three days a tournament again. Ever, right, No,

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<v Speaker 5>that's a real reaction. It's such a cop out to

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<v Speaker 5>no it Hurly. I mean, yeah, your your your Yukon. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>you gotta win at least one of those games. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you got beat by some bad teams.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was Arizona nineteen or twenty seventeen, eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever was when they went to Bahamas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when they went to the bottom.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm a I'm never going back to the b.

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<v Speaker 4>I had.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a friend. I had a friend who was

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<v Speaker 5>there and in the Bahamas. Yeah for that, And they

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<v Speaker 5>were all excited. She was all excited about about you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they and then they won the first game. The jinx

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<v Speaker 5>is over and then the jinx was not over.

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<v Speaker 2>Has that one game moment?

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<v Speaker 5>And I said, how hard is it to play a

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<v Speaker 5>game in a ballroom like that? Yeah, it's like playing

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<v Speaker 5>it at Lat Paloma or something.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk more again on the other side. But Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>has some work to do.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got some work to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll talk more about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona women's basketball will take on in Seattle today at

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<v Speaker 3>six pm at Michale.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another program that's very mysterious, very kind of well.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I've gotten to work a couple of their

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<v Speaker 5>games on doing stats and stuff. Well this year, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>just they asked me to fill in a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 5>And I worked the Grambling State game and I worked

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<v Speaker 5>another game earlier in the year. And there I hope

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<v Speaker 5>it is not listening. They're short on talent, really, they

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<v Speaker 5>really are you know they and and then there's there's

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<v Speaker 5>like not really any kind of chemistry, chemistry to it

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<v Speaker 5>when you do you know and and and I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's hard to have chemistry when you're turning over your roster.

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<v Speaker 5>But some teams, and to me, that's one of the

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<v Speaker 5>biggest factors in whether it's football, basketball, or wherever, is

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<v Speaker 5>that with all the turnover that pretty much happens at

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<v Speaker 5>all all the programs, the ability to pull players together

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<v Speaker 5>who you haven't known for very long.

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<v Speaker 2>I had, I had some of the other show last week.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember who it was that said it's all

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<v Speaker 2>recalibrated every years, every year, and the good coaches can

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<v Speaker 2>do it, the players can adjust. Blah blah blah. But

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<v Speaker 2>it is very mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, look at what Deon Sanders has done in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 5>That's something like fifty six new players, but somehow the

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<v Speaker 5>combination was good enough for them to be good. Same

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<v Speaker 5>thing with Kenny dilling Hammond at As.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I convince you that? Can I convince you? And

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<v Speaker 2>nothing didn't matter to me that Diana is a good coach.

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<v Speaker 5>Because he's a good accumulator of talent. Okay, So that's

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<v Speaker 5>I think what I'm saying no, I'm saying he's got

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<v Speaker 5>he is because you know what he has done. He

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<v Speaker 5>surrounded himself with coaches who have been able to pull

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<v Speaker 5>these guys together from all these different pieces to build

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<v Speaker 5>a good team.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, that's and that's part of being a

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<v Speaker 2>good coach, right.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know it gets me to something I've been

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<v Speaker 5>wanting to say about about about Brent Brannan because you know, somebody,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of things have been said about him, but

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<v Speaker 5>somebody said to me, he's in over his head.

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<v Speaker 4>And I took that from I don't think he's.

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<v Speaker 5>In over his head from the point of can he

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<v Speaker 5>coach x's and os and things like that he's been

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<v Speaker 5>coaching forever, or I think he may be in over

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<v Speaker 5>his head is maybe he doesn't have the coaching resources

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<v Speaker 5>that say Jed Fish had. When you think about the

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<v Speaker 5>coaches that Jedfish was able to pick from his long

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<v Speaker 5>background in the NFL in college the many years he'd

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<v Speaker 5>been doing it, guy mentors like like Bill Belichick and

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<v Speaker 5>Pete Carroll and and and those guys, and then to

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<v Speaker 5>bring a staff in. Because I don't think Jed Fish

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<v Speaker 5>did all the coaching last year.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the CEO.

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<v Speaker 5>He had guys, maybe Brent Brannan doesn't have that quality

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<v Speaker 5>of coaching of go to people, go to people.

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<v Speaker 4>That maybe these coaches weren't. Maybe they're in a little

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<v Speaker 4>over their heads.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me tell you has been on the show

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<v Speaker 2>a number of times and he said that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it's, uh, they didn't because I talked about Brendan,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, being the guy, the motivator or whatever, Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about that. It's the coaches, the assistant coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>That's who the players react, right, because they're the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that are coaching it right.

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<v Speaker 4>See and that and that's my point is that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll give you that maybe maybe Brent Brandon just didn't

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<v Speaker 5>have the quality well of assistant coaches to choose from

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<v Speaker 5>for his staff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's no more, no that we'll end it here. But Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so now we know there's going to be changing.

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<v Speaker 4>There has to be.

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<v Speaker 2>There has to be how many we don't know yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But but he's got to get some guys.

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<v Speaker 5>With some chops, right, and it's gonna be interesting to

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<v Speaker 5>see does he let go of old friends and guys

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<v Speaker 5>that he's had with him for a long time and

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<v Speaker 5>he has to he has to evaluate them and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>you didn't do a great job this year.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to let you go. And how hard is

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<v Speaker 4>that going to be for him?

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<v Speaker 2>He has to, but he has to.

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<v Speaker 5>This is this is I think I think Desray read

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<v Speaker 5>Frans fine. Her statement said there will be change. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, is she going to have to okay all

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<v Speaker 5>his coaching hires probably things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Steve.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, didn't initial release, did they? They just in the

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<v Speaker 5>story for this No, just just what the statement that

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I the Ball here a Fox

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<v Speaker 2>sports anchor for Channel nine. Jason. How are you.

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<v Speaker 6>Good, Stephen, Jay, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing fine? Thank you. Let me set this up,

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Barr, what did you tell Jay and I maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a few months ago? I know you reminded me on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 6>No it wasn't listen, I'm not going to get here today.

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<v Speaker 7>And get on with you guys and pound on.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no, What did you say, you say

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<v Speaker 2>you you had some reservations.

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<v Speaker 6>I think, baby, yeah, yeah, you know how based on

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<v Speaker 6>his record and and some other things at San Jose State.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think what I said to you guys before

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<v Speaker 6>the season was was this staff had something to prove. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, based on his thirty four and forty eight

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<v Speaker 6>record at San Jose State. And you know, Babers ran

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<v Speaker 6>a clean program at Syracuse and graduated a ton of kids,

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<v Speaker 6>but it was let go for not winning enough games.

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<v Speaker 6>So I said, this staff kind of had something to prove,

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<v Speaker 6>and they just never passed the eye test.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, even in Week one against New Mexico that

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<v Speaker 6>was not really.

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<v Speaker 7>A team win.

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<v Speaker 6>The defense was not good and that was two guys

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<v Speaker 6>Nova Feita and teder Rowland macmillan playing pitch and catch.

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<v Speaker 6>And then in week two they looked awful against nau Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>and it was like, oh goodness. So there were problems

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<v Speaker 6>before the injuries, Yeah, neither were.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it looks scary after that first game, Jason, you're

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<v Speaker 5>at you one hundred percent correct, And what we saw

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<v Speaker 5>in that first game turned out to be the story

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<v Speaker 5>of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>And the second game, as you brought up, I remember

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<v Speaker 2>and I said this after the show. I was a fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I went as a person to watch against an a

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<v Speaker 2>U and I was coming out and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>fans goes, oh, this is going to be a difficult year,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking, relaxed. It was just no, they were right,

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<v Speaker 2>So were you, Jason?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, So so he's being brought back, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>next year. And I think what we're going to see

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<v Speaker 6>as a new offensive coordinator, I'd be surprised if he

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<v Speaker 6>isn't forced even.

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<v Speaker 2>To bring one in. And what I want to see here.

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<v Speaker 6>Is a really good offensive coordinator who is not one

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<v Speaker 6>of his buddies. This cannot be crony higher from the

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<v Speaker 6>Dick Tomy days or from San Jose State. This has

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<v Speaker 6>to be someone who has gone somewhere else done well,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe even a lower level wherever, who can be the

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<v Speaker 6>offensive coordator here and who can come here and say no,

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<v Speaker 6>this needs to change and not accept any mediocrity that

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<v Speaker 6>has been here in the past. I want to see

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<v Speaker 6>an offensive coordinator who is not a crony higher.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we were talking about that just a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit before the break, Jason, that you know, his his

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<v Speaker 5>connections right in the coaching world, and he and he

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<v Speaker 5>brought guys that he felt he trusted, who he thought

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<v Speaker 5>could do a good job. And he didn't have the

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<v Speaker 5>vast connections that that Jed Fish had to pick from

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<v Speaker 5>when he got built his coaching staff. He just went

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<v Speaker 5>out and got a bunch of guys that he that

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<v Speaker 5>he knew over the years, and.

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<v Speaker 4>He got quality guys.

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<v Speaker 5>And I I don't know, but I don't know how

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<v Speaker 5>many of those guys, like you said, were friends of

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<v Speaker 5>his so much as he was trying to build a

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<v Speaker 5>coaching staff he could win with.

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<v Speaker 4>And maybe that is a huge difference.

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<v Speaker 5>And I would I think that he has to have

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<v Speaker 5>do some soul searching about the quality of the coaches

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<v Speaker 5>and that he's going to bring in, because he's he

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<v Speaker 5>better get some guys who can coach better than the

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<v Speaker 5>guys that he has.

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<v Speaker 7>Well and the sing goals for the strength and conditioning.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I've never talked to her about.

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<v Speaker 7>Strength and conditioning the season like like we had right

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<v Speaker 7>right this year.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'll tell you what, you know, the previous staff,

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<v Speaker 6>the brag about how much every guy's powerlifted and bench pressing,

572
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<v Speaker 6>and we had curtains, curtains around the way literally little

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<v Speaker 6>curtains around the way group.

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<v Speaker 7>It's year, so I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if you wouldn't bring it up, if

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<v Speaker 6>if has, so many guys weren't getting hurt.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, guys were just going down.

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<v Speaker 6>Left and right for a while, and and you know it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not good to both of you guys. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>ask us, when do you think it all went wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>At what point? I think Jason already answered the question.

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<v Speaker 4>Jason's gonna say when they hired well.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, the NAU game was rough and then off

585
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<v Speaker 6>the field. His biggest mistake off the field was a

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<v Speaker 6>comment that may have come out wrong in the press conference.

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<v Speaker 6>It came out like he didn't want any part in

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<v Speaker 6>marketing the team. When he made it was would have

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<v Speaker 6>to get the exact quote, and now people have gone

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<v Speaker 6>over every to a word of it, you know, to

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<v Speaker 6>make sure it was said right. I don't have it

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<v Speaker 6>in front of me, so I'm gonna have to paraphrase it.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>He was asked kind of about a little bit of

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<v Speaker 6>the lack of marketing, and he said, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 6>for somebody with a marketing degree. You know that was

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<v Speaker 6>kind of adjusted it. And you know he can't do

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<v Speaker 6>that today. You've got to market and brand the program

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<v Speaker 6>like crazy. You know, you can't just come in here

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<v Speaker 6>and coach the team. It doesn't work, you know, and

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<v Speaker 6>and and and you've got to have a differentiator in recruiting.

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<v Speaker 6>And you can't be so brazen to think because you're

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<v Speaker 6>such a great leader, or you know this about Actsidons

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<v Speaker 6>football of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 7>They're gonna they're gonna win.

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<v Speaker 6>No, you have to you have to have some type.

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<v Speaker 7>Of differentiator in recruiting.

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<v Speaker 6>And and you know we can't see under the hood

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<v Speaker 7>But apparently you know that hasn't been.

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<v Speaker 6>Great, and apparently they're working on it now. But I

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<v Speaker 6>want to get you your guys's take. I assume you

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<v Speaker 6>read the article by Michael lev and the Daily Story

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<v Speaker 6>yesterday last night about you know, Desiree Refrance while bringing

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<v Speaker 6>him back. It doesn't sound like he's.

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<v Speaker 7>On a long leash.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly, No, Jason, that's exactly what I've heard. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I've got you know, somebody that knows the

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<v Speaker 5>program very well who said exactly that that they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to bring him back, and this is before she announced

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<v Speaker 5>her thing, and he said, they're going to bring him back,

622
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<v Speaker 5>but he's going to have a very short leash. And

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<v Speaker 5>you wonder if the short leash means, like I was

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<v Speaker 5>saying a second ago, is desiree or somebody in her

625
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<v Speaker 5>administration right gonna have a veto power or going to

626
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<v Speaker 5>have to approve the new hires. Are they gonna tell him, Okay,

627
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<v Speaker 5>you have to fire your offensive and defensive coordinator. They're

628
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<v Speaker 5>going to say something like that. We don't know, but

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<v Speaker 5>there has to be a discussion. But she did say

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<v Speaker 5>in the statement to Michael lev And there will be

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<v Speaker 5>changes made.

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<v Speaker 2>What that means, well, better to have a short leaf

633
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<v Speaker 2>than leave.

634
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<v Speaker 4>Than look, and that he.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all fans should expect. He's like, Okay, we're gonna

636
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<v Speaker 5>make you know. It's not He's not the only one

637
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<v Speaker 5>who's gonna fix this. We're all gonna take part in

638
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<v Speaker 5>fixing this. Because that's how big of a fix it

639
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<v Speaker 5>needs to be.

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<v Speaker 2>To your point, Jason, in the first two games, because

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree with your your evaluation on the first

642
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<v Speaker 2>game and the second game, and I've said this, there's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be some disconnect between the coach and the

644
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<v Speaker 2>players maybe they don't respect them, they'll play hard for him, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>And I said that all year, you don't get beat

646
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<v Speaker 2>by thirty twenty five every game, and that's what it

647
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<v Speaker 2>felt like.

648
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, let me jump in because you're making a good

649
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<v Speaker 6>point here. And somebody else made this point kind of

650
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<v Speaker 6>what you're saying, Steve, after the game, and they were like, Okay,

651
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<v Speaker 6>if Brennan is such a great guy, if you guys

652
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<v Speaker 6>love him so much, why weren't you running too a

653
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<v Speaker 6>wall for him?

654
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<v Speaker 2>No, you're exactly right. So my point is, if that's

655
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<v Speaker 2>the case in my scenario, what makes you think it's

656
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<v Speaker 2>going to happen next year? If it's not there, it's

657
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:54.319
<v Speaker 2>not there. If you don't love the woman and you

658
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<v Speaker 2>don't show it best the second, what's the second ye're

659
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 2>going to matter.

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<v Speaker 5>But let's remember what we said earlier, Steve, is that

661
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:06.240
<v Speaker 5>these players play for their assistant coaches. Right, those are

662
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 5>the first, Those are first on their list, and then

663
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 5>it's the head coach. Now, the head coach has to

664
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<v Speaker 5>bring up, but he's got to get assistant coaches that

665
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:15.079
<v Speaker 5>the guys who are going to respect and run through

666
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 5>walls with that and that's and that's the thing. And again,

667
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<v Speaker 5>I you know, going to your point, Jason, you know

668
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.559
<v Speaker 5>he brought in all his buddies, right and guys that,

669
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 5>and and again for with good reason. He he's worked

670
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.480
<v Speaker 5>with these coaches, to be fair, he trusted him. He

671
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 5>thought at San Jose State they were good enough to

672
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<v Speaker 5>take this step up, but as a group, they didn't

673
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:37.799
<v Speaker 5>make take the big step up that they needed to take.

674
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<v Speaker 5>So now what's he going to do? You know, who's

675
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.160
<v Speaker 5>he going to let go? Who's he going to keep?

676
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 5>I think the fan base, and you can't base it

677
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:48.200
<v Speaker 5>all on the fan base, but I think they'll lose

678
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.960
<v Speaker 5>their mind if Tino Baber's is back and the other and.

679
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:53.920
<v Speaker 6>They I believe he was the one who is only

680
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<v Speaker 6>on the one year deal. And even if this was

681
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<v Speaker 6>a super successful year, I wouldn't have expected him to

682
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<v Speaker 6>have a second year. We are just in the sense

683
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<v Speaker 6>that I think he can get a head coaching job

684
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 6>at a MAC school or somewhere like that. He's got

685
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:08.759
<v Speaker 6>good experience, he ran a really clean program, he did

686
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.640
<v Speaker 6>win some games, he graduated a ton of kids. You know,

687
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 6>he's a good guy. You know, Babers can get another job.

688
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:16.319
<v Speaker 6>Right as a head coach, but they need to bring

689
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<v Speaker 6>in an offensive coordinator now. The other thing that I

690
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<v Speaker 6>heard yesterday or on Saturday in the press conference that

691
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<v Speaker 6>made me a little uneasy was when somebody asked Brennan, well,

692
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<v Speaker 6>what's your pitch to bring guys in in the transfer

693
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.680
<v Speaker 6>portal now? And Brannan's get the leap of faith? And

694
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<v Speaker 6>Brennan's defense he didn't have the full transfer portal last year.

695
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:40.440
<v Speaker 6>But the problem with it now is you got to

696
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<v Speaker 6>recruit through the transfer portal off a four and eight

697
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.359
<v Speaker 6>season and a coaching staff that's never really had a

698
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<v Speaker 6>ton of success. And and so he was asked, well,

699
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<v Speaker 6>what are you saying, and it's and and he's got

700
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<v Speaker 6>to get guys to have a leap of faith.

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<v Speaker 7>Well that's not that's not a lot.

702
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<v Speaker 2>No, Well, you have a leap of faith and you

703
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<v Speaker 2>have Semenil money. I don't know if they have both.

704
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<v Speaker 4>Well, but Jet Fish is the same thing though.

705
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<v Speaker 6>Too right, But Fish said, Fish said, don't compare, don't

706
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:12.920
<v Speaker 6>look at Arizona and don't look at this what we

707
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 6>did last year. Look at what this coaching staff has

708
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:17.480
<v Speaker 6>done in the NFL. And then Jed said, I've got

709
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 6>the NFL playbook, and I've got NFL coaches, and we're

710
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.359
<v Speaker 6>going to be the third n three year correct, We're

711
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.519
<v Speaker 6>going to move you to the NFL. Okay, so bs

712
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.079
<v Speaker 6>or not. You know, you've got to sell and and

713
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:30.400
<v Speaker 6>and and he sell and he sold it and worked

714
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 6>and he and he's got it's got a you know,

715
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.480
<v Speaker 6>tough What he can offer kids here is you're going

716
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:38.599
<v Speaker 6>to play. You're gonna right now, You're gonna play because

717
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 6>there's not a lot of positions where you have somebody

718
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, guaranteed into into a.

719
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<v Speaker 7>Spot, you know, for next year.

720
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<v Speaker 2>But you know, a lot of people have said what.

721
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm about to say is it's just you know, you

722
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<v Speaker 6>don't lose these three potential first round picks to the

723
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:53.200
<v Speaker 6>NFL and usually have a better roster next year. They

724
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 6>have to have a home run in this print. He

725
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 6>has had to have the home run in this transfer

726
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.880
<v Speaker 6>portal the way that Dillingham did for issue last year.

727
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<v Speaker 2>While we have you on, Jason and Jay, let me

728
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:04.960
<v Speaker 2>go we have about three four minutes. This solve the

729
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.519
<v Speaker 2>world's problems with the basketball team, though, just because just

730
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<v Speaker 2>because what the heck do you think is going on there?

731
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<v Speaker 6>Jason, I'm having trouble figuring it out because when I

732
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.279
<v Speaker 6>look at the team, it doesn't look that much different

733
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 6>from his previous three teams. Now, the one number that

734
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:19.880
<v Speaker 6>jumps out.

735
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 7>Of you is the assists.

736
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:22.559
<v Speaker 6>They were always top five and assists, and now there

737
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.480
<v Speaker 6>one hundred and twentieth or whatever it was. So I'm

738
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:27.200
<v Speaker 6>trying to figure out what is I don't think that

739
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:31.839
<v Speaker 6>Kretus has made that freshman to sophomore year jump in

740
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 6>improvement the way that Ballow did for him, the Loco

741
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.160
<v Speaker 6>did for him, and even as Zulu's Tubellus did for him.

742
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.200
<v Speaker 6>I don't see that kind of jump yet from either

743
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.720
<v Speaker 6>of the big men. So I think they're lacking a

744
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 6>little bit there. There's something wrong with the Caleb Love.

745
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure what it is, if it's a confidence

746
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Speaker 6>issue or you know, just a feast or famine thing,

747
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 6>but you know, that's definitely he's not quite you know,

748
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.160
<v Speaker 6>is consistent, and he wasn't that consistent year. But but

749
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:03.440
<v Speaker 6>but he's not that consistent.

750
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<v Speaker 7>And I'm not really I don't really.

751
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 6>Have my fender on what is so different from this

752
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:08.880
<v Speaker 6>year's team compared to the previous three.

753
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<v Speaker 7>What's your take on it.

754
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've said this a few times. I think number one,

755
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<v Speaker 2>I'll go with number two. First, they're not defending the team,

756
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:18.519
<v Speaker 2>nor they do. They feel like wanting to defend the

757
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>teams on the perimeter, right, and they have people, they

758
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 2>have athletes one.

759
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.039
<v Speaker 4>And that's been that's been a problem since he got.

760
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<v Speaker 2>Here, right right, And to the number one thing in

761
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<v Speaker 2>my mind defense is yeah, so number one. Number one,

762
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 2>they're not able to go and transition. Arizona teams since

763
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I covered it in the nineties early nineties, they moved,

764
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.599
<v Speaker 2>they transitioned, they got points off, turnovers, off a lot

765
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:41.079
<v Speaker 2>of things these teams that they're playing, and you would

766
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 2>be a coach, you'd want to stop that, right, get

767
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.839
<v Speaker 2>everybody back, stop their transition. You're saving at least fifteen points.

768
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.200
<v Speaker 2>And they don't look like the Arizona teams that I've covered.

769
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.839
<v Speaker 2>They're not fast, they're not smooth, but guess what, they

770
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 2>have the players to do that. But the teams that

771
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 2>they're playing are smarter, they're bigger than they're tougher. That's

772
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Speaker 2>the number one thing in my mind. Oh yeah, I.

773
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<v Speaker 6>Mean, uh, the Senate the first team they played, not Davidson,

774
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:11.599
<v Speaker 6>but the team after that was Oklahoma looked really tough,

775
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:13.840
<v Speaker 6>they looked really physical. But you're right, you know, to

776
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:16.320
<v Speaker 6>that point, I saw them do a high low play,

777
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:18.119
<v Speaker 6>you know where those kind of all you dunks, those

778
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.400
<v Speaker 6>those high low plays. I'm like, oh my goodness, I

779
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:23.199
<v Speaker 6>forgot about that. Say they said that all the time.

780
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:23.719
<v Speaker 7>Last year, and.

781
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know that was a sort of a bread

782
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.559
<v Speaker 5>and butter for him the last couple of years with

783
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:35.719
<v Speaker 5>with Ballow, with with Tubellas uh uh uh, and and

784
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 5>last year with with Ballo and Crevis. So the things

785
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 5>that have worked for him in the past they're not

786
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:45.199
<v Speaker 5>doing so for whatever reason. Is it? Is it just

787
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 5>a chemistry issue? Is that the pieces don't quite fit right?

788
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.719
<v Speaker 5>You know, they got good players at all the positions,

789
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:56.400
<v Speaker 5>but what's the fit? To me that that's the only

790
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 5>thing that explains to me what's going on with them

791
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.440
<v Speaker 5>right now, is that for whatever they don't fit he

792
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:04.679
<v Speaker 5>you know, he started Carter Bryant the other night, right.

793
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.199
<v Speaker 5>I know it's because of the technical clauses and stuff

794
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.239
<v Speaker 5>like that, but there's just doesn't seem to be any

795
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:13.119
<v Speaker 5>kind of cohes slow or rhythm or as you said,

796
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.639
<v Speaker 5>cohesiveness to any other lineup.

797
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Those three words cohesively flow.

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<v Speaker 6>But I can't figure out what everything he's saying is right.

799
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.840
<v Speaker 6>But I'm about having trouble figuring out why because the

800
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:27.880
<v Speaker 6>team doesn't look much different than his previous three teams.

801
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:31.840
<v Speaker 6>And after the first couple of wins against Cadesious and

802
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:32.920
<v Speaker 6>Old Dominion.

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00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:35.280
<v Speaker 7>He made the comment of, well, you know, we've.

804
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:36.960
<v Speaker 6>Got a tough stretch, but but I like who we're

805
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 6>going in with.

806
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:38.440
<v Speaker 7>And I don't think he.

807
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:39.159
<v Speaker 6>Was just saying that.

808
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:41.159
<v Speaker 2>I thought I think he was confident.

809
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<v Speaker 6>And so you know, I'm That's what I'm kind of

810
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:46.599
<v Speaker 6>scratching my head at.

811
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, he said about it feels like you talked about

812
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:51.559
<v Speaker 2>being in the Big eight. Were built for it, We're

813
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.880
<v Speaker 2>ready for it. No, you're not, because we've seen it.

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<v Speaker 5>To me, the the thing is that is that I

815
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.960
<v Speaker 5>think you know you're tasking one reason why they are

816
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:07.000
<v Speaker 5>where they are. It's it's that it's not the talent. No,

817
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.920
<v Speaker 5>it's not the scheme. No, well, it may be the

818
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 5>scheme in the sense that he's got to find a

819
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 5>scheme that works with the combinations that he has.

820
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.159
<v Speaker 2>You you've covered you've currently follow the team. I've covered

821
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.360
<v Speaker 2>it for like thirty years now, whatever, how do you

822
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:22.159
<v Speaker 2>beat an Araszonta team. Coach Loot or Sean or now

823
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Tommy put him in the half court. Make sure they

824
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 2>plan always that because they don't have the players to

825
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.119
<v Speaker 2>play in the half court, they don't have the practice

826
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.840
<v Speaker 2>that they should have court. And how many teams have

827
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:34.519
<v Speaker 2>played them in the half court now? Every single defeat

828
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:35.639
<v Speaker 2>they put them in the half court.

829
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah no, I again, I watched this team and it

830
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:42.280
<v Speaker 5>just doesn't look like it has the capability to run

831
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.320
<v Speaker 5>the stuff that Tommy has run since he got.

832
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<v Speaker 2>Here, right right?

833
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

834
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<v Speaker 7>Interesting?

835
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Jason, you know, if you want to have a.

836
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:52.760
<v Speaker 6>Leap of faith with basketball, which is says, hey, you

837
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 6>know the year that you don't think, you don't expect

838
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:58.079
<v Speaker 6>big things, that's that's what big things happens in basketball.

839
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<v Speaker 2>Jason. You know what you're gonna start, Well, you can

840
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.800
<v Speaker 2>start well. They finished fifth in the packed Pac ten

841
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>back in ninety seven, so you know this is gonna

842
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.320
<v Speaker 2>happen again. Be prepared for that one.

843
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 6>Okay, Yeah, it's it's you know, listen, you know that

844
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:13.360
<v Speaker 6>that works.

845
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 7>That works.

846
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Leap of faith along, Steve, Thanks Jason, thanks for joining us.

847
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate it.

848
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:20.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, great chatter about the football. Appreciate you guys having

849
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 6>me on. We're good to listen to you and talk

850
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 6>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, mess Thanks Jason Jason bar Channel nine. We're

852
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna go take a break and then talk more about basketball.

853
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 2>I guess Nick takes some calls. If you're an Arizona

854
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Man's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for newly

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Rivera, He's got his eye on the ball. On

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<v Speaker 1>Tucson Sports Station Fox Sports fourteen fifth Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to win the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In today with me

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<v Speaker 2>is long time partner Jay gon Zauz Henry working on

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<v Speaker 2>the board. So we're doing okay, let me ask you.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been off the internet? You said, like off the

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<v Speaker 2>craziness great Twitter?

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<v Speaker 5>We No, I've been.

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<v Speaker 2>I still pay attention to it over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>After all this stuff. Soul retains me still and I

919
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<v Speaker 5>don't feel compelled to go on there and fight with anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So so over the weekend when the basketball team

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00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 2>and we'll stay on the basketball team. You hear, I

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<v Speaker 2>see you on Facebook, see on Twitter. Tommy Wiwid is

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<v Speaker 2>not the guy. He's not the guy. You know. These

924
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<v Speaker 2>are coming from the guys that feasted with him for

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<v Speaker 2>three years, right and all of a sudden he loses

926
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<v Speaker 2>a couple of games and get him out of it there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, like with the people who are saying Brent Brand

928
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<v Speaker 5>needs to be fired, people are saying Tommy Lloyd, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>is not the guy. I just say, go back to

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<v Speaker 5>your basement, open your bag of cheetos, sit down in

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<v Speaker 5>your boxer, shorts and have fun because it's it's all.

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<v Speaker 4>All those things are dumb.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm not trying to put myself like I'm smarter

934
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<v Speaker 5>than everybody, but those things are unrealistic.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what, Tommy Lloyd hasn't won enough for you.

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00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:15.719
<v Speaker 5>He's winning thirty games every year, right, I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>He hasn't done in NCAA tournament what you would hope

939
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<v Speaker 5>he would do. And he's off to a little bit

940
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<v Speaker 5>of a rocky start. Did Lout have some rocky starts?

941
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<v Speaker 5>I recall that he did. Sean Miller have some rocky starts.

942
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:30.760
<v Speaker 5>I recall that he did. There are still good coaches, right,

943
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:35.519
<v Speaker 5>really good coaches, and so you know, just relax, let

944
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<v Speaker 5>as as they say, let this thing play out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly exactly. I think he'll fix this. But half

946
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<v Speaker 2>of it. It's not just him. It's Jay. If you

947
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<v Speaker 2>want to beat me, you're going to put some work

948
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<v Speaker 2>into beating me, right, And the schemes or whatever. I

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<v Speaker 2>still say those things that I said earlier are an issue,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what he has to fix.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing of it is, David, it feels like people

952
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<v Speaker 5>think that this is easy because Tommy Lloyd has won

953
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<v Speaker 5>so many games the first few years. It hasn't been easy.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, a lot of things had to come together

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<v Speaker 5>for him to win the mon games that he's won.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to go to the full lines. Hello, you're

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<v Speaker 2>on the air.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's this?

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<v Speaker 18>How you guys? Hi? J Hi Steeds. This is your buddy, Gabe,

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<v Speaker 18>How you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>You you've been missing for a while. I was gonna

962
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<v Speaker 2>call nine one one to find you. I was wondering,

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<v Speaker 2>are you okay?

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<v Speaker 18>Well get him one time? Jall? Have you been buddy?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm hanging in there, Gabe. I'm I didn't jump off

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<v Speaker 5>any bridges after Saturday?

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<v Speaker 4>How's that?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh?

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, neither did I. I was pinning of Stetchy that

970
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:41.199
<v Speaker 18>we're gonna lose to the scum devil.

971
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<v Speaker 6>So and we did.

972
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<v Speaker 7>So.

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<v Speaker 18>I don't know if I like Dad Brennan coming back

974
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<v Speaker 18>or not, but I know that Dino Babers is not

975
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<v Speaker 18>coming back to be the offensive coordinator. What else do

976
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 18>we know as in this point, No.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't.

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00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:07.000
<v Speaker 4>We don't know anything. Uh gave that things are just

979
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<v Speaker 4>getting started.

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00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:11.039
<v Speaker 5>He's obviously got to make some changes and we'll see

981
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:13.400
<v Speaker 5>what those are over over the time. But in the meantime,

982
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<v Speaker 5>they got to be recruiting, So I don't know how.

983
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:18.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how you do all this right, If

984
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:20.599
<v Speaker 5>you have a stable staff, you can all go out

985
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.360
<v Speaker 5>and be recruiting, not worrying about things. Brent Brennan's got

986
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<v Speaker 5>to worry about what do I have to do? What

987
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:29.400
<v Speaker 5>do I have to change? Uh, you know, whether it's

988
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:33.000
<v Speaker 5>coaching staff or however they do things during this time

989
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 5>that he's also got to get players to come here?

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<v Speaker 18>Do you seek deser re Francois have the money to

991
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<v Speaker 18>farmhand even though Brent Brennan is not his guy, even

992
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<v Speaker 18>though even though Brent Brennant is not her guy, that

993
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<v Speaker 18>she hired him, even though that day he basically hire him.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a good question, because the rumors were that

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<v Speaker 2>she did. I don't know if they're true or not.

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00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm not gonna believe in any rumors.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is, they need a lot more money than

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<v Speaker 2>what people think, right.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, money makes them wall go round.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think we're realistically though, Gabe. Even if she

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<v Speaker 5>had oodles of money to do it, I think I

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<v Speaker 5>think you hurt your program more than you help it

1003
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<v Speaker 5>if you fire a coach like Brent Brannan after year one.

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<v Speaker 5>Like again, I was here when the Ben Lindsay thing happened. Gabe,

1005
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 5>you weren't even born yet, but that had to happen then, right,

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<v Speaker 5>And even then when they fired him, when said Dempsey

1007
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 5>fired him after when I was shocked. I thought coaches

1008
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 5>don't lose their jobs after one year. Now, later on,

1009
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<v Speaker 5>you were how old eighty three? Eighty three?

1010
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<v Speaker 4>I would have been twenty four years old?

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<v Speaker 2>Really only twenty four, Okay, so twenty four you're you

1012
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:48.400
<v Speaker 2>and you probably know the history. It was bad.

1013
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And well later on I've told you, I you know,

1014
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:53.719
<v Speaker 5>I read transcripts of from you know, what was going

1015
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<v Speaker 5>on behind the scenes, from from the from a Ben

1016
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<v Speaker 5>Lindsay's a lawsuit against Arizona. He had to be fired,

1017
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 5>and knowing all of what we read in those in

1018
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.599
<v Speaker 5>the court files, he had to be fired. But that's

1019
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.719
<v Speaker 5>how bad it had to be for them to fire

1020
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<v Speaker 5>I remember back then they had one year contracts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we got another call, Yeah, so we haven't.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So you know, I I think you hurt your

1023
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:19.719
<v Speaker 5>program more than you help it if you get rid

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<v Speaker 5>of a coach after one year in this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Jay, we have another call. Keep calling, Gay, we

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<v Speaker 2>miss you, Man, I miss you? Did he go? Okay,

1027
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<v Speaker 2>Well he's listening. Thanks, we got another call. Yeah, let's

1028
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<v Speaker 2>take this call. All right, Hello, you're on the air

1029
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 2>and line on the ball, Nico, gab and Nico, what

1030
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<v Speaker 2>the Nico?

1031
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<v Speaker 7>Man?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>J whateped and you get fired from that jet, Nico.

1034
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:50.920
<v Speaker 5>I finished my homework on time, and Steve let me

1035
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.119
<v Speaker 5>come in and hang and hag with him for a while.

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00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Dico, you want to be my partner here?

1037
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Man, I don't know.

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00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:58.599
<v Speaker 8>Man, that's a pretty big commitment.

1039
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<v Speaker 2>Man, that's why I came.

1040
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<v Speaker 4>It is Nico. It's a huge commitment.

1041
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:04.559
<v Speaker 8>And I don't have the sources you have.

1042
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<v Speaker 2>Man, I don't have the connection, but you have the humor.

1043
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.519
<v Speaker 2>I need some humor. Go ahead, what's what's up? What

1044
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<v Speaker 2>are your thoughts?

1045
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<v Speaker 1>Hey?

1046
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<v Speaker 15>Man?

1047
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:12.719
<v Speaker 8>I told you guys at the beginning of the year

1048
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.840
<v Speaker 8>they'd be six and six, and you laughed at me.

1049
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:16.760
<v Speaker 8>You didn't believe me.

1050
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:19.559
<v Speaker 2>I thought they didn't win at least eight games? You

1051
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>really did, Jay, you thought they wouldn't more than that.

1052
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.159
<v Speaker 5>Made I lost I mean my wife, I lost some

1053
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:26.400
<v Speaker 5>money because they didn't get to eight.

1054
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 8>So yeah, man, it was bad. Man, it wasn't even

1055
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<v Speaker 8>like it was just.

1056
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Bad what happened. So, Nico, I'm gonna ask you the

1057
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:36.719
<v Speaker 2>question they asked Jay and Jason one did it when

1058
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 2>did you feel it went bad? Went wrong? And you yeah,

1059
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:42.440
<v Speaker 2>because they didn't give him a fight.

1060
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:45.679
<v Speaker 8>It was just terrible. You should whoop that. And you've

1061
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<v Speaker 8>got like forty Yeah.

1062
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<v Speaker 2>I agree, And and Jason made the point is the

1063
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:55.880
<v Speaker 2>injuries weren't there already.

1064
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean Dino Babers, he's gonna get fired. But

1065
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:02.639
<v Speaker 8>if you fire Dwayne Aquina, I'm gonna be pissed.

1066
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:03.440
<v Speaker 7>I'm not gonna lie.

1067
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the sentiment everywhere.

1068
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.519
<v Speaker 5>Well, and Dwayne a Quina has the defense that all

1069
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:12.800
<v Speaker 5>his good players got hurt. And so you I could

1070
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:16.079
<v Speaker 5>see that if they keep Dwayne Aquina, maybe change some

1071
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 5>some might change some other guys on the staff, turnover

1072
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 5>a lot of the offensive staff or maybe it's just

1073
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:23.880
<v Speaker 5>offensive coordinator.

1074
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

1075
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:27.000
<v Speaker 5>And not the Babers, but the guy that he was

1076
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 5>supposed to be mentoring to to, you know, to call

1077
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.159
<v Speaker 5>players and stuff. Maybe that you turn over, you do

1078
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.239
<v Speaker 5>some you do some changes there. But again, none of

1079
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:38.320
<v Speaker 5>that is gonna help the season ticket sales next year. No,

1080
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:40.559
<v Speaker 5>it's not the only thing that's gonna help. That is

1081
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 5>if you win some games and people come back. So

1082
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.199
<v Speaker 5>they're gonna have to bite the bullet and understand attendance

1083
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:46.440
<v Speaker 5>is probably gonna be down next year.

1084
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:47.559
<v Speaker 4>Well, no matter what they do.

1085
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Niko, have you and your dad talked about season tickets

1086
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:50.280
<v Speaker 2>next year?

1087
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

1088
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:53.760
<v Speaker 8>Man, I go with my dad and his buddy and

1089
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:56.119
<v Speaker 8>they're like, we're only coming back if you pay.

1090
00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:56.639
<v Speaker 7>For the tickets.

1091
00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 9>I'm like, damn, so you're not freaking thirteen.

1092
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:01.960
<v Speaker 7>Butts man, I don't know.

1093
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:05.960
<v Speaker 2>We'll see. That's what Well, that's what that's what it is.

1094
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.039
<v Speaker 2>That's what happened. That's what's gonna be your option of

1095
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:10.159
<v Speaker 2>going to a game and spending the money but going

1096
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:12.360
<v Speaker 2>to see the possibility. Yeah, they're gonna lose.

1097
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:14.679
<v Speaker 5>I've heard some long time season ticket holder say I'm

1098
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.199
<v Speaker 5>not so sure about next year, and that's and you

1099
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:19.599
<v Speaker 5>know what, they have every right. The product was bad

1100
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.400
<v Speaker 5>this year, you know. I mean, if you hear a

1101
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:24.199
<v Speaker 5>movie is bad, do you go see it?

1102
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:24.639
<v Speaker 2>Always?

1103
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.000
<v Speaker 4>You usually don't, So it's same thing.

1104
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:30.159
<v Speaker 8>Hey, man, I don't know. I'll probably pony up the

1105
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:33.000
<v Speaker 8>cash but I did sit around some good people.

1106
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:36.719
<v Speaker 5>Well, no, you know what the I'll say, the a

1107
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.320
<v Speaker 5>SU fans around us were great. I think partly because

1108
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:43.559
<v Speaker 5>the Arizona fans were just beaten. You know, we sat

1109
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.440
<v Speaker 5>down and we had nothing to say. We were beaten.

1110
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:48.599
<v Speaker 7>Uh.

1111
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.159
<v Speaker 5>You know, even got to the point where you know

1112
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:53.199
<v Speaker 5>how you su fans start chaying a SU and Arizona

1113
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:56.159
<v Speaker 5>fans goes sucks. I wanted to tell the guy across

1114
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:58.639
<v Speaker 5>out from me, Arizona fans stop saying sucks.

1115
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:04.280
<v Speaker 2>One, they don't suck. Okay, you're down zero.

1116
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:08.760
<v Speaker 5>Just just be quiet, write it out and go home

1117
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:09.480
<v Speaker 5>after this.

1118
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 4>That that's what I wanted to happen.

1119
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:14.320
<v Speaker 8>Hey, man, I'll say about this. Me and my dad

1120
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:17.039
<v Speaker 8>were somebody that they issue chicks, and we we all

1121
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 8>let that al time. Man, we've been drinking at the bar.

1122
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:19.920
<v Speaker 8>It's a great time.

1123
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:20.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there you go.

1124
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:22.559
<v Speaker 2>There you go, Nico, Thanks for calling you.

1125
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:23.400
<v Speaker 5>Do you hear from you? Nico?

1126
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:27.239
<v Speaker 2>All right? No? Cool, He's right. I mean you to

1127
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:31.679
<v Speaker 2>spend thirteen two thousand whatever is to go watch chance

1128
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:32.400
<v Speaker 2>to win again.

1129
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:34.519
<v Speaker 5>And and but you know, and I I may be

1130
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 5>one of the reasons that that a reason when you

1131
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.440
<v Speaker 5>think of a number of reasons that that it could

1132
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:42.320
<v Speaker 5>have been. The desre said, you know we're keeping them

1133
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 5>is because no matter what she does, like again, unless

1134
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.760
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna go get you know, Bill Belichick, you know

1135
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:49.599
<v Speaker 5>somebody like that to come here and coach who can

1136
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:53.280
<v Speaker 5>sell tickets, you're not gonna You're not gonna change the

1137
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:55.840
<v Speaker 5>trajectory of the of the coming season when it comes

1138
00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:56.239
<v Speaker 5>to tickets.

1139
00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 2>The move the needle doesn't move for very much. There's

1140
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:01.639
<v Speaker 2>no there's what you say this. I know her a

1141
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:04.559
<v Speaker 2>little and we've met her right a little. She's a

1142
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.079
<v Speaker 2>smart woman. We know that she's coming into a different spot.

1143
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna try to all by her because she's

1144
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:10.559
<v Speaker 2>coming here with the thoughts that she has to get

1145
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:14.000
<v Speaker 2>this money, this place out of money, out of money trouble. Uh,

1146
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:18.000
<v Speaker 2>there's money issues here. Uh. She's brought in some people

1147
00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:21.440
<v Speaker 2>of her own, her own past. A lot of people

1148
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:22.800
<v Speaker 2>have left from the people that.

1149
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 4>Are here were here.

1150
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 2>So I don't envy the position she's in. And this

1151
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:31.039
<v Speaker 2>was a no win situation, uh in firing the coach,

1152
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:34.639
<v Speaker 2>hiring the coach, and her and her job. That said,

1153
00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:37.159
<v Speaker 2>she's making a lot of money, so people get paid

1154
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.519
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money, have them. So there's no crying

1155
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:41.719
<v Speaker 2>for for Desert.

1156
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:44.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm not crying for her at all. But it is

1157
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:45.639
<v Speaker 4>a it is a hard job.

1158
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 5>It's hard heart respect the fact that she's in an

1159
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:50.519
<v Speaker 5>she is in a tough position, as is everybody over there,

1160
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, And and everybody's got a you know, as

1161
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:57.079
<v Speaker 5>they say, you know, uh, you know, pull the you know,

1162
00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:59.360
<v Speaker 5>pull on the rope or whatever whatever ridge do you

1163
00:50:59.519 --> 00:50:59.960
<v Speaker 5>say about that?

1164
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:03.760
<v Speaker 4>You know that that you know, because it's the you know,

1165
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 4>it's football.

1166
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 5>And then when you got the added misery that's going

1167
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:09.679
<v Speaker 5>on in basketball, it's kind of like this is this

1168
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.559
<v Speaker 5>couldn't be harder right now than it is right right, No,

1169
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:15.079
<v Speaker 5>bread and Butter's are both both programs.

1170
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:16.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so the good.

1171
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Thing is that the cash from this this past season

1172
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>has already come in. Yeah, because the season takes but

1173
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:23.320
<v Speaker 2>the future holy.

1174
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:26.519
<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, and and and look, everybody will feel

1175
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:30.119
<v Speaker 5>better if basketball can ride itself. And look, we said

1176
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:33.239
<v Speaker 5>all along, get ready for some losses. There's going to

1177
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:35.119
<v Speaker 5>be some losses, and there are going to be some losses.

1178
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.599
<v Speaker 5>The question is what can Tommy do to to to

1179
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:40.800
<v Speaker 5>stem the tide on that Yeah, no.

1180
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. They have the players. I do

1181
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.559
<v Speaker 2>believe that previous is not the guy that we thought

1182
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:48.239
<v Speaker 2>he would be to this point.

1183
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:51.239
<v Speaker 5>Well, let's not forget he was injured all you know,

1184
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:54.400
<v Speaker 5>he didn't get time on the court and all that stuff,

1185
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:56.320
<v Speaker 5>and so you know what does that have to do

1186
00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:57.400
<v Speaker 5>with with where he's at.

1187
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So they have Henry, they have a walk. Uh,

1188
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.039
<v Speaker 2>they have they have have enough, they have parts they have.

1189
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:04.880
<v Speaker 7>I like that.

1190
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.239
<v Speaker 5>Also coming off the bench, he gives you a guy

1191
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 5>that at the very least have to cover it.

1192
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Brian can play off the bench. Caleb's got to play better.

1193
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:14.000
<v Speaker 2>We all know that. But guess what, You're gonna have

1194
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:15.159
<v Speaker 2>to live with him being Caleb.

1195
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:17.320
<v Speaker 5>Caleb is gonna be Caleb, and you're not going to

1196
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:19.920
<v Speaker 5>sit him down for oh, sit him down, don't let

1197
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:21.039
<v Speaker 5>him start like what what?

1198
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeh. He's the first team All America guy that I

1199
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:26.119
<v Speaker 2>think that they're gonna have to ride, which the way

1200
00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:28.400
<v Speaker 2>he plays, he's party gonna love it is Jaye j

1201
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:30.519
<v Speaker 2>And Bradley just get the ball and he because he

1202
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:34.000
<v Speaker 2>loves on that show. He's got, he's got, he's he's.

1203
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:36.800
<v Speaker 5>The key to making all of this come together as

1204
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:40.679
<v Speaker 5>point guards usually are, right. I think he's good. I

1205
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:43.960
<v Speaker 5>think he's really good. He is, but maybe he's trying

1206
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:44.800
<v Speaker 5>to figure things out.

1207
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 2>He's his style is take control blah blah blah and kJ.

1208
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Whatever's going on with KG, he's got to be better too.

1209
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:52.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's people that got to be better. Yeah,

1210
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:54.880
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see Jay. I appreciate you coming back.

1211
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:56.719
<v Speaker 5>Well, this is fun, Steve, Well, you know, we'll do

1212
00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:57.199
<v Speaker 5>it some more.

1213
00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Just what I need to hear you rant you didn't.

1214
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:03.679
<v Speaker 5>I didn't read that bad, but I've had three days

1215
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.679
<v Speaker 5>to get over it. But we'll be back together December

1216
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:08.760
<v Speaker 5>nineteenth at the Casino del Sol and see us. So

1217
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:10.599
<v Speaker 5>come and see us out there at the Soul Sports

1218
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:12.679
<v Speaker 5>sports Book and we'll be hanging out over there.

1219
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:13.519
<v Speaker 4>But I'm looking forward to that.

1220
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Henry. We'll see everybody tomorrow.