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It's time to talk some college basketball on Cougar Sports

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with Ben.

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Speaker 2: Crittle and welcome back to the key ooh almost said

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: I apologize because that is the wrong thing this. How

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Welcome back to Cougar Sports. Uh you know A one

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of three nine and ninety eight three ESPN, The Fan, Toronto,

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the three man Weaver. I got Cam Clark, My Coe's

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by my side, Gonna get into a little college basketball

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segment ap behind the glass Big critals somewhere. Don't know

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where he's at, lost track of him. We're here at

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West High School in Salt Lake City, Utah. Beautiful day,

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cloudy day. This is a great day for baseball. Look

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we're baseball guys. We've been talking a lot of football,

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a lot of members sales tickets, basketball, but look, baseball

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season is here. B what you at their opener. I

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don't care what anybody says. I'm always gonna want to

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talk to some Olympic sports and some baseball. They're fans

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and donors that go to the baseball. It's look a

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no basketball season and march.

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Speaker 2: Manna is the thing.

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Speaker 4: But when it dies down and you can't, you're not

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a big fan of going to these recruiting events that

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we're at right now and these other things. Look, go

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catch you some baseball. I got a little one, can't

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wait to take her for her to me, Cosmo and everything.

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We're at the five B five tournament coming on going

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on today. That's brought to you by Powerhouse Training. Pardon me,

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I apologize for that. They got three divisions. They got

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high school, they got ten to twelve of you, and

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then they got twelve to fourteen U as well. You

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can register with the team or solo. They got three

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pool play games and it's a single elimination tournament. The

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former BYU offensive lineman Tony Canuch is the one putting

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Speaker 2: Well, without further ado, let's not wait. We got our guests.

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I don't like making them with, especially.

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Speaker 4: This one, a guy I really like to talk to

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at we got Aaron Torres, Fox Sports radio host and

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the host of the Aaron Taurus Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'll be doing my brother.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, We've I got a question for you, actually,

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and I'm genuinely curious on this. I see some optimism

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coming out of BYU with the two wins at the

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Big twelve tournament, and the defense played really well or

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the defense was better, Listen. Aj is so far beyond

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anything that I think anyone could have actually expected, especially

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given the injuries. But I thought Boop played well. I

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thought Diamande played well. And if you have a guy

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that can get you thirty five on any night, I

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think it gives you a shot. And know by the way,

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Rob can get you twenty five on any night. But

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I feel like I have said that, and I've gotten

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pushback for BYU fans that don't really believe that. Listen,

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it's going to take the right matchups and is this

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team gonna, you know, reach the preseason hype. Probably not

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because of the injuries. But I just feel like people

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are more down than they should be. I think you've

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get the right matchups in a single elimination tournament with

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a J de Bonce on your team, you've got a shot.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think everything you said is valid. I know

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we had you on a you know, about two three

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weeks ago. And look, the injury to Richie Sonders, I

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think killed people like I was at that game. Right,

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you've been in the marria.

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Speaker 2: You know how loud it is.

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Speaker 4: You could hear the pin drop from Jimmerfdetz Jersey retirement raptor.

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Speaker 2: You could.

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Speaker 4: People were heartbroken forty five seconds in the game. And

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 4: It's the guy that literally is the is the you know,

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the flagship, the captain of the Kevin Young era. This

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thing getting started off right, and it was unfortunate that

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that happened. But by fans are look, I hate to said,

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they shouldn't. But yeah, fans were down. They thought the

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sky was falling, and it was more of an you know,

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things that you run, it makes sense. He you think

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younger guys, even some older guys, and that I think

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didn't have guys confident. But when they took that away

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Speaker 4: You see Canard Davis Junior, who he said he pigeonholed

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playmake shoot the three a coastitch, you know, knocking down

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three's big time, even in those losses on the road trip.

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Speaker 4: Hadeen Boop is clapping in Christian Anderson's face saying where

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you're going sun, you know, and locking him down. And

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look they found they had to find a new identity.

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in the end was wrong.

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Speaker 2: You were correct. I stand by it. And yes, there's

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a bunch of optimism.

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Speaker 4: Everybody that we talked to today and everybody that i've

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up shoulders with the last forty eight hours believes that

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buy you can get to the second weekend. Now I

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believe that now now again, this has to the draw

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has to be right. But if they go to Portland eighteen,

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I think he would agree with it. You get this

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their elevency matchup won't be any cakewalk, but you get

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through that and you get Gonzaga. I know it'll be

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a home game, but you get that game. And here

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the East Coast. I don't know what other matchup you

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could ask for for opportunity to go to the lead.

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They not picking them to get there. But look, with

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everything that's occurred, you're if you're in the second weekend.

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his second year in my opinion, Yeah, so I.

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Speaker 3: Agree with all that. You know, it's funny with coach Young.

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that was part of the learning curve two seasons ago,

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was that sometimes you don't have to you know, sometimes

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it is and I get the exact word to use,

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but just playing harder, faster than the other team. And

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as the bracket, you know, we'll we'll we'll see how

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the bracket shaped out. And I don't want to make

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any bold proclamations because if that's just me, why you

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every fan base that, well, what's our ceiling? Can we

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get to a final four? Can we do? What's the bracket?

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picking them to go to the sweet sixteen. And it's

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like I've kind of stopped doing that because I just

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do think the matchups are so important. But yeah, and

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more than welcome to. But look at how Kansas looked

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last night against the same Houston team versus how BYU

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looked the night before when they had a lead at

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the half, and you know, things had to go their way,

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Speaker 2: Game with definitely could have easily won that game.

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Speaker 4: I'll get your thoughts on this, understanding a general topic

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of college you know, basketball. I'm really intrigued by the voting,

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you know, of coaches, because obviously I think you would

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agree and if not, to tell me aj debonsa player

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of the year. I understand why they gave it to

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Jaydon Brawley. I completely get it. I understand it's hard

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to give it to the guy with the tenth best team,

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you know, in the conference. I believe they were top

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six or seven, yes, you know, but there's this narrative

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right now that I'm seeing that. For some reason, I

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feel like coaches, maybe it's just a big twelve. You

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can't give a player the Freshman of the year and

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then the player of the year. I don't know what

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it's interesting because Cam Bouser got him, My Coles, Cam Clark,

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Darius Acuff got that, and I'm starting to think that

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if you're not a top four team, that's not happening.

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Speaker 2: But this is kind of baffling to me.

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Speaker 4: He had a great shot last night, but he's not

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even the best player in Arizona. But he's the heart beat,

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like Richie Sonders, I'm just confused if you could give

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just some insight to that, because I still can't wrap

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a balancing act, right because Aj is certainly,

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certainly the most talented player on the team, and I

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do think you could talk about value from the perspective

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want to get dark here, but you know, you finished

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intense place with them, and I know they were tie

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breakers and it wasn't quite tense, but you get the

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point where would they have been without them? So I

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and this was one you know, I was traveling early

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this debate. I find it hard to believe that Aj

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Debonsa should have been the most outstanding player in the

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league on the tenth player. I just do and it

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doesn't take away from how good he was, and it

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doesn't it doesn't mean he should be a first team

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All Americans. So maybe I already have a whole in

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but not be the player of the year in the league.

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league by two games and to do what they do,

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Big twelve Player of the Year is in a team award.

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special to what they have done this season. So I'll

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be honest, I had no fundamental issue with it. But

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I'll also counter by saying I do understand why BYU

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fans were frustrated after watching this historic season from aj

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good as we thought it was gonna be. I think

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we all agree it's been even better than we had

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all anticipated.

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Speaker 4: I agree twenty five point three. Thank you for giving

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your your thoughts. Wasn't trying to put word Jim, you

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I wonder if I think people are looking and maybe

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this is just how talented my cole said this. You know,

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AJ winning Freshman Year might even be an argument better

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than Player of the Year of how deep these freshmen are.

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Kingston Flemy could have got it Braydon Berry's and I'm like, wow,

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that's a lot of talented freshmen in this conference, you know.

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the second best basketball conference in America behind the NBA.

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these guys are going Top fifteen from the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 2: Look, look, Bradley's a good player.

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Speaker 4: He proved it last night of why he's the hard

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and soul Because when Braden Burry's can't buy a bucket,

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you know, or can't move a part car. Last night

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Kelvin Sampson, who I still believe is the you know,

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the final boss of this conference. Do they get there,

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get back tonight and do they do you think they

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would move up if the Houston won, do you think

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they move as a one seed or are they for

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Sherlock as a two if they win the Big Tell

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Speaker 3: Well, there's an interesting scenario unfolding right now in Nashville

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where Florida is losing by sixteen points to Vanderbilt, which

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is kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness goodness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I still think Florida probably would have that

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fourth number one. But I certainly think it'd be an

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interesting scenario if Houston were to win and Florida is

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to lose today, because obviously Houston would pick up two

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really good wins in really three good wins with BYU

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and this, and of course hypothetically against Arizona. I'll be honest, though,

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so physical, and I know we think of Arizona former

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physical as anybody in college basketball. So maybe I'm wrong,

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maybecome you know, eight TM Eastern tonight. I look kind

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of foolish for saying this. I actually do like Arizona

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to win and win pretty convincingly. They wanted Houston a

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few weeks ago. And it's not that Houston's bad, they

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had that three game losing streak. I just think it's

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more of a product of I think Arizona specifically is

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a bad matchup for them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and as you say that Arizona, look, they're so

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deep watching them. I mean, for the fact that in

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that game where Braden Brady's not playing, what Delorso was

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really the best player on the floor. It wasn't Jade

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Bredley at the biggest moment, biggest shot, but Delorso went crazy.

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Speaker 2: That just speaks.

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Speaker 4: So you got two seniors like, yeah, bring us off

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the bench, let the freshman thrive. Yeah, I just like,

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I'm sorry, I know, I'm I have to, you know,

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because we're a BYU show. I have to taylor a

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little bit towards BYU. But I'm not all out of

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the question of realistic and objectivity if Arizona's a problem,

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and I feel sorry for anybody who has to see

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them in the Elite eight, because look, they rebound, they

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beat you up inside, they can do it all. And honestly, yeah,

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and I'm kind of confusing. I'm trying to get my

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word together, because you're pointed out Vanderbilt Florida and I

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pulled it up, and I'm watching him get cooked. I'm

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watching Todd Golden. He's having to repent for his comments

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last night about Kentucky. I think that's what the the

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man of office having him do.

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Speaker 2: That's a joke.

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Speaker 4: You know, let's get back to the topics of hand.

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Still on the topic of college of basketball, does Arizona

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win it all? Like, look, we don't know what the

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draws are, We have no idea, but right now they

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look like the best team in the country. I think

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they can go to toe to toe with any.

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Speaker 2: Of these guys.

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Speaker 3: Well, they could certainly go toe to toe. You know.

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They beat Florida head to head. I was in the building.

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They beat Houston, They beat Iowa State twice. You know,

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they split with Kansas, They beat UCLA, who's playing really well.

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They beat Yukon, who's going to be a two seed,

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So they can you know, I'll tell you this, man

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like you know, who'll be mad at me for saying that.

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I think Arizona might be the favorite in Arizona fans

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because you know, there's a lot of no seriously, there's

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a lot of history there where they've been. You know,

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they haven't been to a Final four since oh one,

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but they've been to about six or seven Elite Eights.

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I I have been. I know that they've lost two

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Elite Eight games by one point. I was at one

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of them. It was an overtime in Wisconsin in twenty fourteen.

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They also lost to Yukon by one in twenty eleven

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in the Sweet six in the final Elite A Kemba

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Walker that was near Kemba Walker was at Yukon. So

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I just bring it up because to me, to me,

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I think they're the best team. I really do it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: As funny as I was doing my conference previous earlier

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this week is you know, I think all season long,

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people have looked for reasons to pick them apart or

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think that they're not going to do it. I think

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part of it is a little East Coast bias. A

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lot of people probably don't stay up to watch them.

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They're not quite Duke. They're not Florida, which is a

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defending champ, even Michigan that's obviously got a huge fan

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base coming out of the Big Pen. But I think,

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let me put it this way, I think they're the

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best team I've seen. I do think that Top four

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has sort of separated itself. But again, you know, Duke's

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a little bit banged up. You know, Michigan has looked

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good but not great, So maybe maybe maybe there is

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more behind that Top four. But I do think Arizona

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that I've seen is the cream of the class so far.

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Speaker 4: Arizona a good team. Tommy Lloyd, I'm the coaching dream mark.

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F youga coach, love him. We'll see what happens. Look

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I like the polka Tad Golden because you know, he

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had some beef when he was his time in San

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Francisco and b YU.

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Speaker 2: I was like, it's a pug, but look, look this

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is a damn.

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Speaker 3: But yesterday's yeah, go ahead? Is there not? I was

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gonna ask, is there's some history between those two from

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the YU San Francisco is because it does not look

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like Todd Golden likes smart pops.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: There's definitely history that I would have to say if

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anybody gave me pushback. I don't know if you know

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the story, but to make it quick, San Francisco came

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when he was the coach and it was Alexa Barcello, right,

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and Alex Barcelo and Todd Golden got into it and

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technical fouls were given Jamari Bullier and Shabaz you know,

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Khalis Shabazar on the team, and there were some stuff

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that was said, you know, by BYU fans and I

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don't think they like that, and they went to the

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tournament because I don't know if you remember it, maybe

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it wasn't. But Jamari Buyer like dunked the ball like

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with like a second left, you know, in the contest,

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and nobod you don't do like he threw it off

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the backboard dunk and started talking to people on the baseline.

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So I think there's tension going back to b YU

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San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: And I wasn't surprised.

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Speaker 4: I called it to Todd Golden antics, but yeah, I

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know people sometimes don't like TODG. Golder, but there's definitely

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history between those two. To answer your question. But look,

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that's nor here nor there. It doesn't matter, right, that's

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their stuff to work out. But I do think it's

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funny clapping during the technical and stuff like that. I

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do think that's funny. But he's a dog, good coach.

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You put out a tweet, Florida, I think they got

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a shot to go back to back. You put out

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some numbers, want to give you a chance to pontificate

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it on it. I didn't know these guys are ranked

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as low in their class and to have him as

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a potentially a one seed, Todd Golden's a good coach.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what you got to say about it.

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Speaker 3: No, you know, he's he's as good as it gets.

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And what he's really proven is he's a great evaluator,

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you know. I mean, I think even go back to

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last year, Remember Walter Clayton came from Iona to Florida,

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you know, will Richard came from Belmont. And then of

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course this year, I think we just think that this

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this front line is just, oh, it's a bunch of

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five stars. Well, there are a bunch of NBA players

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because he evaluated them and developed the crap out of them,

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you know. Uh, you know, for people who don't know

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the starting lineup, the three back to the three core

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guys Tommy Hawk, Alex Condon, and Ruben Chielou started Washington.

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They average five points in five rebounds. He's now the

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country's leading rebounder. And Condon and Tommy Hawk were subone

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pin fifty recruits in their recruiting class. It's just and

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they're both going to play in the NBA. It's it's

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just crazy evaluation and development. And you know, I actually think, honestly,

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evaluation Weirdly, and this is gonna sound counterintuitive, I think

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it's more important now than it's ever been because you

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could sit there and say, well, you just spend money,

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but it's like, you know, you have to know where

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to spend your money. And I hate to do it

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because I don't want to talk about Yu's former coach,

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but you know it's well known that you know, uh,

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Kentucky probably has one of the highest budgets in America

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and they're really shoveling right now. And so I just

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bring it up because I actually think evaluation and development

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is more important than it's ever been, even with players

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getting paid, because you got to evaluate the right guys,

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you got to slot them into the right spots. And

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that's something that you know a lot of guys aren't

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good at and how Golden seems to be really good

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at it.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, you got to give Todd Golden his credit.

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No doubt about it as well here with Aaron Torres

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on the line. He's the host of the Aaron Torres

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podcast and he is a host of the Fox Sports

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Radio from eleven pm to two am Eastern Time. Let's

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transition a little bit now to obviously AJ debonsa now

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national media include yourself, you know, not saying you directly,

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but people are talking to NBA executives now and they

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would take agent.

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Speaker 2: It's changed, right.

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Speaker 4: Mock drafts have got him a couple of weeks ago,

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and we did no surprise here, right if a guy

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is not playing, and look, credit to Darren trying to

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play now, but it really hasn't gone well. I think

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it's numbers have gone down. He hasn't performed. AJ now

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is the number one pick. And I think it's interesting

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because Y'allhoo Sports put this out two hours ago. Darren

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opens up about the cramps. I have full body cramps,

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super serious. You could say it was traumatic. I would

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say it was a traumatic experience and that was part

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of the Kansas City Star. But it's interesting, Aaron, because

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he's waited, like right, you mentioned that they could have

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gotten in front of this. They didn't. Now it seems

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like because the narrative has changed. They're trying to change

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it back and writing. So I get it, but but

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rightfully so. But now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what to make of this.

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Your your thoughts and insights on that.

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Speaker 3: No, listen, let me really put it this way. I

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think that if people really knew how NBA mock drafts

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were made, they would kind of roll their eyes. I

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think a lot of it is controlled by agents. I think,

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and here's the other thing. Nobody wants to be the

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first person to do something. So I think that when

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Darren Peterson had a head to head went over AJ

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DEBATSA and Darren was awesome in the game that he played,

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I could see why people would take him number one.

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But at the same time, let me also say this

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is it's always been a debate. It's never been one

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hundred percent Darren Peterson. And I promise you the questions

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about Darren Peterson popped up way earlier than anybody wants

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to acknowledge because you're talking about the number one pick

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in a draft where there are at minimum two, and

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some people believe more generational prospects guys that can change

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your franchise. Right, it'd be one thing, you know, because

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the example that people always use is, well, Kyrie Irving

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got hurt during gets season a duke and he still

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went number one, And it's like, well, one, we knew

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what Kyrie's injury was. I think it was a hand

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or a foot or something. We knew Kyrie's injury, and

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there was no obvious number two. Well this year, both

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players could be healthy in a one hundred percent and

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you could still have a debate. And so I think

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the questions have been going on for much longer than

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people want to acknowledge. And two things have happened. You know,

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AJ has been unbelievable, and you know Darren has struggled,

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as you said, we've and so listen, you know, I

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think I've been one of the more critical people of

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Darren Peterson, but I think people misunderstand where the criticism

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is coming from. I've never once said he should play

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through injuries if he's not healthy. What I said is

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the story is changing every single game. One day at

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the hamstring, then it's kramps. Then he's fine in the

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first half, then he's fine in the second half, and

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you know, to go back to the just let's just

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use the BYU Kansas game for a second. I said

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it at the time. I said, if he's got cramps,

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he's he's treating cramps like no player that I've ever seen.

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I was watching the San Diego State game late last night.

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Some guy got cramps. He immediately went to the stationary

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bike and was trying to work it out. We all

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watched the Kansas BYU gave. He was sitting on the

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bench with a towel on his legs. He wasn't high trading,

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he wasn't getting stretched out, and so I think there

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were plenty of reasons to question it. And I do

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think to the point that you brought up, maybe that

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story is true, and I actually believe that it's true.

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I believe that something pretty traumatic happened and he's been timid, whatever.

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But here's my question, why did that story come out

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six weeks ago? Eight weeks ago when all this conversation started,

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and it would have been but been put to bed. Instead,

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they've tried to change the narrative every single week it's

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been a different story, and so people like me have

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been critical, and I do think we've to your point.

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I don't think you can help, but wonder if this

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story is coming out now because people are seeing that

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Aja Debond is clearly the number one pick in the draft,

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and obviously the Peterson camp, I think is running a

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little bit of interference here.

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Speaker 2: Hey, look, your PR team's gotta do what they gotta do.

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Speaker 4: But I'm with you, Like Dick now, Eddie, you didn't

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see him for the last two weeks, op aj number

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one pickings, like, hey, you should have talked about Hey,

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your cramps. I just I look, I'm not blaming a kid.

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Look when I was eighteen at if you know me

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to be like, stay away from that kid. And I

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get it, right, he is young, and it's different, Like

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there's a lot of pressure. It was a lot of

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pressure when Lebron was eighteen back in the day. And

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what I'm correlating is it's tough to make decisions. You know,

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they're making the decision for the rest of their life,

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for their family, for themselves. But sometimes I do, like

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the Neco situation, the quarterback at UCLA, when you have

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people in your corner and you get persuaded, sometimes I

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don't think that's justice.

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Speaker 2: So I do have grace.

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Speaker 4: I understand it's a tough decision to make. But look,

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all people want is the truth. At the end of

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the day. Let's let's get you out of here on

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this with the optim isn't that you see? Do you

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think BYU would if they're able to play defensive at

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the draws?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Do you think they can make it to the sweet

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sixteen that second weekend?

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Speaker 5: I do because listen, if if Houston and some of

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these teams in the Big twelve have no answers for

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Agent de Bonsa, it means he can score thirty thirty

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five on anybody, which is crazy. And then two, I think,

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like you said, I think guys are falling into roles

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and I think to the points that we brought up

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earlier is that you know, guys have been called upon

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that weren't normally called upon. And again we've gone through

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the names, but injuries have allowed other guys to step

532
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up and play bigger roles.

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Speaker 3: And because of it, you know, I absolutely think they

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have a chance. Like you said, we'll wait to see

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what the draw comes out before I make any declarations.

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But when you got Agent de Bonsa, when you got

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a bunch of athletic guys around them, when you play

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defense the way that they did in Kansas City. You

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got a chance, and I actually do like them depending

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on the draw to make a little bit of a

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run here these next couple of days, in these next

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couple of weeks, they're.

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Speaker 4: Finally playing their best basketball, playing defense, the right away,

544
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hidden shots. Guys know their roles, look March mat Is.

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There's magic for a reason. Can they make a run?

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Got to see tomorrow four pm Mountain time, six pm

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Eastern time, three pm your time. Aaron, before I let

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you go, always got to ask us what's the best

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way to listeners right now?

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Speaker 2: Can support you what you do and how you do it?

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Speaker 3: Man, Well, I hope it's not a conflict of interest

552
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from where you're recording from. But I will be on

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Fox Sports Radio's National Show during the bracket reveal, So

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Dan Byer and I will be on at six pm Eastern,

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three Pacific, five Mountain four mount in time, whatever it

556
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is if you want to listen, you know Fox Sports Radio,

557
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iHeartRadio app the National Show, and yeah, then I'll come

558
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home and do my podcast, the Erin Tooris Podcast, which

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you can stream on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, And you know,

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you know, I always appreciate the support of you, and

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I appreciate the support of everybody in the great state

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of Utah. Can't wait to get back. I'm kind of mad.

563
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I was supposed to get out for a game this

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year and it kind of fell through at the last minute.

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So I appreciate the support of everybody in that state.

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And yeah, I can't wait to get back and I'm

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hoping it's a fun a couple of weeks to Balakops.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully it is.

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Speaker 4: Look whatever that next game that BYU has, that premier

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matchup on Fox.

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Speaker 2: I just need you back for that one to be

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out for football. I know you're busy.

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Speaker 4: You're a busy man, but hopefully you can get out

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in prov and if not, then we'll definitely catch up

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with you with basketball for sure.

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Speaker 3: Two things. One, as long as Kevinyng's there, they're gonna

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have a competitive, fun team. And two, last time I checked,

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the Big twelve is in a one big league. I

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don't know who will be good next year, but there

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will be plenty of big games in Provo again next year,

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and I can't wait to get back out.

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Speaker 2: Can't believe we actually I'll let you go on this one.

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Speaker 4: You think it's possible if by using sweet sixteen San

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Jose in California in a couple of weeks, and maybe

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you could I could see up there.

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Speaker 2: I think I would be making that trip out.

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Speaker 3: There, and that's that's obviously a Thursday Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Thursday Saturday day possible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will be, so I will be on the

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postgame show. So my normal shift is Saturday, as you said,

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eleven to two am, so I'll be on after those

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Elite eight games on Saturday. But you know, you say

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for Thursday, you're saying there's a chance. I'm saying there's

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a chance. I'm saying there's a chance.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you're saying you're saying I got a chance. Hey,

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I'll let that movie there. You go side with those people,

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see that you can. Ben will love that. I use

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that reference his favorite Erintoris. Everybody.

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Speaker 4: You gotta follow them on x Please go listen to

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all of his content on Erintoris podcast. Following on x at,

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Aaron Underscore tous At. We'll catch up with you in

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a few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for your time, Thank you, Weeve. I appreciate you

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guys always, and we'll speak soon, hopefully deep into March,

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with plenty to talk about with the coubes.

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Speaker 4: Okay, hopefully, okay, we'll catch up with your travel. Say please,

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that was Erin Tooris of the Erintoris Pod. All resrespect,

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Aaron national guy. He's busy, he's got a lot of time.

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Appreciate him taking the day out of his Saturday more

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than more and poorly to do that. Didn't even know

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that Vanderbilt given Florida belt TABOOTI man love to see that.

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I know BYU fans. I know Barb Mark Pope probably

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likes it as well. We'll go to break guys live

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from West High High School with the five E five

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tournament power by excuse me, brought to