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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property. And for this week of January

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventh, we've kicked off a new watch. It's called

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<v Speaker 2>A Man on the Inside. It's on Netflix, stars Ted Danson,

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<v Speaker 2>and the first episode was written and directed by Michael Shore,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's I think. I don't know what his credit

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<v Speaker 2>is for the entire show, but he definitely wrote and

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<v Speaker 2>directed this one, which has the charming title of Tinker

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Older Spy.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not realize that when I watched it the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, only when I watched it for this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I believe all the episode titles are like spy movies.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so yeah, this was a nice palette cleanser

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<v Speaker 2>after the violence of Lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I like this a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Ted dance, and I was thinking, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>starts off with you know, music playing, someone getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>for the day again, like that whole like Desmond in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bunker that we had already said was shown again

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<v Speaker 2>on The Good Place.

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<v Speaker 3>But it didn't, but it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was showing a whole day in his in his

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<v Speaker 2>before that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right at the very beginning, it went to like a

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<v Speaker 1>a little home movie. Yes, yes, of their wedding, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>And that is that c G I Ted dancing it

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<v Speaker 1>So it was creepy.

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<v Speaker 2>It did not look like it really was of Ted dancing,

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<v Speaker 2>or even d or even like makeup Ted dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely definitely wasn't current Ted dancing. And there's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>enough older Ted dancing that you could AI it, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>But it looked like the things people do on AI.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it was just not right. Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We all remember him. If you are doing that, you

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<v Speaker 1>are making the rest of us feel weird to feel

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<v Speaker 1>very comfortable. It just didn't seem necessary. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>could have understood that he loved his wife and they

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<v Speaker 1>had a cute relationship. Without that, Yeah, the photo album,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps right, would not have been quite as creepy. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that just started things off on an eerie note. But once, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>once it got to him going through his day and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm noticing, like, oh, he's a little obsessed with coffee making.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like me. And he does a crosser

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<v Speaker 1>puzzle every day and taking a nap. Yeah, but do.

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<v Speaker 3>You get yourself all sound?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you get yourself all dressed up in like a

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<v Speaker 2>suit and a sweater vest.

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<v Speaker 3>For your.

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<v Speaker 1>I do wear skirts though on my days, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but with a sweater usually is Yeah, No, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get that formally attired. But still I'm not quite as

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<v Speaker 1>old as to dasn't but getting there. It's a little

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<v Speaker 1>too closed to go for comfort.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So he the premise is, yes, that he's this sort

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<v Speaker 2>of somewhat lonely, somewhat bored retiree and he you know.

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<v Speaker 1>He cl has lost his wife in somewhat recent right time,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's completely just at loose ends.

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<v Speaker 2>He clips things from the physical newspaper and mails them

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<v Speaker 2>in the physical snail mail to his daughter, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful detail.

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<v Speaker 1>I think as a parenting tip, I think that needs

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<v Speaker 1>to come back. I think that that I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>cut something out of a magazine and mail it to

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter, even though she's living here at my house.

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<v Speaker 1>That is such a such a grandparent or parents thing

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<v Speaker 1>to older parent thing to do. And it's so cute

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<v Speaker 1>and it's better than just texting them a picture of something,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Next time, next time, I'm going to text my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>a page from the computer. I'm going to print it out,

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<v Speaker 1>put it off.

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<v Speaker 3>Put it in. Yes, she'd be like, I got some.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it's charming. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So so his daughter gently suggests that perhaps he needs

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of hobby or project, and that's what leads

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<v Speaker 2>him to this newspaper ad, which again like they had

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<v Speaker 2>to put it in the physical newspaper, which was advertising

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<v Speaker 2>for an older man to go undercover at this retirement

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<v Speaker 2>home type place. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she's like telling her assistant what to put in

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the ad has to be in the newspaper. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>She's trying to get somebody seventy five to eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>and she wants them to know technology, and her assistant goes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's when they do has a.

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<v Speaker 2>Phone, right, And of course they have the montage of

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<v Speaker 2>the inappropriate candidates like, yes, I have a phone, it's

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<v Speaker 2>at home.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching that and thinking my husband would not be

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<v Speaker 1>able to pass this interview. He has a phone, but

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know how to text or take a picture

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<v Speaker 1>right from it.

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<v Speaker 3>So and that's what she wants him to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was that was very enjoyable, that little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And before that, we have another The Good Place flashback

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<v Speaker 1>in that the client of the Private Detective is Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Jackson, yes, formerly Sean playing somebody whose mother's jewelry

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<v Speaker 1>has been stolen in this place, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And another person that was appeared, you know, slightly less

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<v Speaker 2>on The Good Place was Eugene Cordero, who played in

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<v Speaker 2>this show. He plays the husband or partner of Ted

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<v Speaker 2>Danson's daughter. But he was like, remember he was Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Mendoza's friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well he's doing much better now then, that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like a lot less of a dirt bag it's

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<v Speaker 1>a cute wife and three completely oblivious children.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was a very fun scene. Like the parent, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Offers them five dollars to tell her something that they

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<v Speaker 2>have happened in their day, and none of them has.

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<v Speaker 3>At least been interested. She should have said she would

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<v Speaker 3>been more than five dollars. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some might have got their attention. Jesus, they are

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<v Speaker 1>drinking the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't need any water, they're drinking the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that was hilarious, but so yes, So he takes

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<v Speaker 1>He gets the job by virtue of being able to

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<v Speaker 1>take a picture and text it to her, and also

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<v Speaker 1>that he was a professor, and and she tries to

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<v Speaker 1>train him to be a spot and he is quite

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<v Speaker 1>bad at it, yes, sort of adorably bad at it, but.

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<v Speaker 3>He's when he's having a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she says, I think you're the best option in

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<v Speaker 1>a sea of not very good options.

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<v Speaker 2>So she moves him into this this facility. I forget

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<v Speaker 2>what it's called, like Palisade something that's one of those names. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's he does pause for a moment because they

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<v Speaker 2>do have a memory care unit, and so that is

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<v Speaker 2>is hard for him, as that is what happened to

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<v Speaker 2>his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I felt like that was a little heavier than

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<v Speaker 1>the story needed, at least as the story is thus

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<v Speaker 1>far right. You know, he could have just been nervous

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<v Speaker 1>about it or something, but it's just like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like they wanted to give you know, that

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<v Speaker 2>moment of will he or won't he actually accept this.

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<v Speaker 1>And think of lots of different ways he could have

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<v Speaker 1>that could have had happened.

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<v Speaker 3>And also like with that, why we don't really need it?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Yeah, he was looking for a project. One

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<v Speaker 2>presented itself.

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<v Speaker 3>He did it right, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, unless that is going to come up later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, presimilarly they're going to do more with it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just being a cute.

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<v Speaker 1>And fun vehicle for like hilarious spying. Yes, do we

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<v Speaker 1>have to have that sub theme of grief? Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feeling like another show we just stopped stopped watching.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to have the grief? Could we just have

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<v Speaker 1>the fun banter and rapartee and cute plot lines and

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<v Speaker 1>no grief?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep?

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<v Speaker 1>This was This is also going to be another you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have people to lean on story, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think there will be some parallels, Yes, other than just

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, old guy involved. Speaking of which, last

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<v Speaker 1>week when we talked about Shrinking for really a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time, Yes, talked about every permutation of that finale,

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<v Speaker 1>including bumping boobs, and yet we failed to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that virtuoso speech word gives at the end about how

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<v Speaker 1>his Parkinson's is getting worse and how that's gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>and that he's gonna have to lean on everybody. And

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't a dry eye in the room on screen

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<v Speaker 1>or in the room where I was watching it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just Harrison Ford rocks in this thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>he keeps not getting awards for it, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little There needs to be an investigation of

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<v Speaker 1>how that could possibly get head dancing on the case. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>put dead dancing on the case. And how do we

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<v Speaker 1>get a bleepin' Emmy or a golden globe for this

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<v Speaker 1>person who is just knocking it out of the park.

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<v Speaker 1>Harrison Ford is such a known quantity and yet yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the things he's doing on Shrinking are completely different than

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen him doing. They're wonderful and he's just

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic at it. So yeah, yeah, good, that speech was

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<v Speaker 1>amazing and sets up enough grief for the next season.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah that maybe they won't have to traumatize

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else, right, it will be the season of his

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<v Speaker 1>Parkinson's getting worse. Yeah, And somebody I was reading somebody

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<v Speaker 1>online was saying that they had to look up to

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<v Speaker 1>see if if Harrison Ford did in fact have Parkinson's

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<v Speaker 1>because he was so convincingly doing the shaking and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, but he does not know, just acton.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just a good actor.

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<v Speaker 1>An actor, just a good actor, just a good actor. Award,

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<v Speaker 1>Hello over here, nobody h come on anyway, So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>head dancing also a known quantity, coming up with, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>new stuff to do. Yeah, very enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 2>And he did remind me a little bit in this

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<v Speaker 2>of the very end of The Good Place, when Michael

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<v Speaker 2>became a real boy and was you know, just delighted

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<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of how he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like with the spy, like, yeah, the glasses and

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<v Speaker 2>taking pictures, you know, trying to secretly take pictures, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he was just getting a real big kick

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<v Speaker 2>out of all of it, which reminded me of Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't his name like Michael realman.

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<v Speaker 1>Or something something, Yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah, it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean I can see this being very enjoyable

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<v Speaker 1>and lots of We saw Sally Struthers for like thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that box is still under there. I can

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly well, right now in my office, my son has

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<v Speaker 1>papered with those vincent I should like find a couple

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<v Speaker 3>My daughter has been My daughter is into like colored

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<v Speaker 2>Produce a physical thing unless you maybe unless you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's very intricate, Like she's like she can spend

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<v Speaker 1>So well that's cool. Well she should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>But that is true, that is true that she enjoys.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, that was like me and counted crosstitch ands ago.

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<v Speaker 1>for us older parents of adults. Uh, if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>then get through, come up with a plausible story, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Then tell your daughter that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be telling her. It's the Art Photography gardening club.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that looked like a pretty nice spot. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder how much that costs. Yeah, who is paying for

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the client.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I'm guessing that eight cheap. No dude thinks,

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<v Speaker 1>what's sort of appealing? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>could see I could see that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents are in a similar type place.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, no, not doing that again, like five

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<v Speaker 3>It was not up to his standard.

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<v Speaker 1>he had enough. Yeah. My husband probably wouldn't take it either.

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<v Speaker 1>He would be like, I just want to sit and

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<v Speaker 1>special place? I would? I would. They'll be in every club, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And it's but we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Never not going to have our kids with us. So

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<v Speaker 1>unless there's unless I have some very open minded ones

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<v Speaker 1>that let you bring along your family, right, I'm never

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well it's it's kind of cute. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody has their their names on their door, and they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of decorate their doors like like a college door.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean varying degrees.

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<v Speaker 2>Like some people just have like a wreath or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>but other people have all kinds of you know, stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>You're so dear, I bet like like socially, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like high school and college also, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>And certain people.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my. Then again, maybe my little house.

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<v Speaker 3>Is right, got a lot going for it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just you know to U.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I suppose that will be part of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ongoing drama is will he decided to stay there, although

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<v Speaker 2>his house in Oakland was quite lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's going so enjoyed. How this show, even though

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<v Speaker 1>very well written and well executed and well done, had

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<v Speaker 1>the thing of I mean, assuming they're they're married, the

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<v Speaker 1>all about her dad, how her mom died, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I see the size of your children. Probably he was there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm pretty sure this.

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<v Speaker 1>But you gotta get that. You gotta exposition. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get that exposition out.

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<v Speaker 3>Exposition may just.

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<v Speaker 1>you know, certain things just have to happen. We understand

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<v Speaker 1>how TV works. But you know, and and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there will be no complications of the fact that that

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<v Speaker 1>calling the detective the same name as his daughter, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to cause any waggy high jats.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well we shall. We are here for it, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we are here for it. We'll enjoy it. Next there

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<v Speaker 1>will be no uh no supernatural visitors like uh lost.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be nice and grounded, right, you never know, goes

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<v Speaker 1>to his wife could turn up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll find out next.

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<v Speaker 1>Week gets too close.

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<v Speaker 3>So next week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's episode two, the man who knew too much about bridges.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he's an engineer. You see, Yes, and we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>See you back here tomorrow for our weekly Roundabout roundup.

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