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<v Speaker 1>KBLA Talk fifteen eighty we are talking politics. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>pleased to have my colleague on board with me this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a journalist and educator and he is KBLA Talk

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen eighties chief National Affairs Analyst. He's a podcaster, a

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<v Speaker 1>TV guy, and so much more. Doctor Nie Cordelaine Corte

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<v Speaker 1>can also be heard Monday through Thursday from four to

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<v Speaker 1>six pm right here, so that means he's doing a

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<v Speaker 1>little double duty today. Good morning, doctor Corte.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning dominiquea Prima.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for chapping in with me today.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much going on it's making my head explode.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you keep track of all these primaries,

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<v Speaker 1>and I try, I really do, but it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to keep in your head right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot going on, a lot to keep in

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<v Speaker 2>the head. But you know, a lot of odds are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be on Florida today because they're having their primary.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you got some pretty prominent black folks

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<v Speaker 2>that are going to be on the ballot. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about representative GOP Representative Byron Donald's he's running as running

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<v Speaker 2>for the right. He's running for the Republican nomination for

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<v Speaker 2>governor of Florida. He has chosen not to debate anybody

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<v Speaker 2>that is also running for the Republican nomination for governor,

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<v Speaker 2>and so all eyes are on that race. Also, all

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<v Speaker 2>eyes are on the congressional race where State Representative Chevron

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<v Speaker 2>Jones is running for congress. This is a seat that

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<v Speaker 2>is highly coveted. You might remember Chevron Jones. Nador Jones

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<v Speaker 2>has been in the news recently because there were some

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<v Speaker 2>opponents there that had leaked a false story that he

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<v Speaker 2>was HIV pop and was trying to use that as

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<v Speaker 2>a bludgeon against him in this race. But if the

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<v Speaker 2>polls hold and the polls are in his favor, he

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<v Speaker 2>may very well, uh get the nomination for that congressional

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<v Speaker 2>seat we want to run.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like as we started out, there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>different stories here. You started on Florida where they have

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<v Speaker 1>Donald's running for governor, but it seems like we could

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<v Speaker 1>end up with the slew of black governors, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. Right we have we just have won right now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Wes Moore more. Yeah, but there's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people running. You know. Keisha Lance Bottoms made it

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<v Speaker 1>to their runoff there in Georgia, and you mentioned Donald's,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are several others, so I don't some of

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<v Speaker 1>them Republicans. This is one of their new hats tricks, right,

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<v Speaker 1>running black Republicans for for governor. So we could see several.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, uh, Aaron Ford is running in Nevada, Jermaine

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson in South Carolina? What how what do you make

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<v Speaker 1>of that? Do you think that is that significant? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's a sea change or you think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a cute strategy rephn Representative John James in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also and also David Crowley who just won

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic primary in Wescontint. That's right, you mentioned Keisha

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<v Speaker 2>Lance Bottoms in Georgia. I mean, you know this is

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<v Speaker 2>a sea change. I don't. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 2>look at it any other way, you know. I recently

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<v Speaker 2>had an opportunity to to do a wide ranging sit

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<v Speaker 2>down interview with Maryland Governor Wes Moore, who also happens

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<v Speaker 2>to be the chair now of the National Governors Association,

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<v Speaker 2>the first black governor to be chair of the National

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<v Speaker 2>Governor's Association in one hundred and eighteen years and so

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<v Speaker 2>that also is significant. But I remember during that interview

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<v Speaker 2>he told me the story of a conversation he had

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<v Speaker 2>with former Massachusetts Governor Duval Patrick. He was the second

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<v Speaker 2>elected black governor in the United States, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>something that Governor Patrick said to him that really stayed

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<v Speaker 2>with him. He said, look, you know, his only regret

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<v Speaker 2>is that he didn't start to think about the third

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<v Speaker 2>black governor in the United States until after he was

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<v Speaker 2>out of office. And so that is a reality that

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<v Speaker 2>has motivated Governor Wes Moore to spend some political capitals

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<v Speaker 2>and to get out on the campaign trail and help

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<v Speaker 2>elect more black governors across the country. He has been

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<v Speaker 2>on the campaign trail supporting Keisha Lan's Bott in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>Jermaine Johnson South Carolina, Aaron Ford in Nevada, and will

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<v Speaker 2>likely be on the campaign trail supporting David Crowley in Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>He is in high demand. You know, his endorsement matters,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's good to see not just more black folks

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<v Speaker 2>running for governor, but being competitive in their run for

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<v Speaker 2>governor and being supported by the only sitting black governor

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States, Governor Wes Moore.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And you mentioned deval Patrick there. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas Wilder back in the I guess nineties. There have

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<v Speaker 1>been very very few. I think it's like six or

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<v Speaker 1>five or six seven in all of US history, going

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back. And so if we end up

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<v Speaker 1>with a handful, that would be that would be significant.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course Keisha Lance Bonds would be the first

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's right, it's right. I'm also part of why

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<v Speaker 2>this is a significant dominique. As you know, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much that's happening on the state and local level as

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<v Speaker 2>a check on the Trump administration and Republicans that are

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<v Speaker 2>considering federalizing the elections even though the Constitution says you

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that. But this president and Republicans are playing

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<v Speaker 2>foot see with the Save Act, which really is nothing

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<v Speaker 2>but a voter suppression bill. But you know, the counterweight

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<v Speaker 2>to some of the tactics and antics that we're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of this administration is on the state and

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<v Speaker 2>local level. Governor's matter, mayor's matter, especially when we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about sanctuary cities, sanctuary states, when we talk about getting

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<v Speaker 2>creative about addressing some of these deficits in funding that

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<v Speaker 2>are directly tied to the so called Big Beautiful Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>remember the cuts to Medicaid for example. Absolutely, well, it's governors.

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<v Speaker 2>It's governors have to figure out how to make those

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<v Speaker 2>ends meet. And so not only is the consequential that

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<v Speaker 2>these folks happen to be highly competitive black folks running

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<v Speaker 2>for governor, but they're running for governor at a time

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<v Speaker 2>where that office has probably never been more important in

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<v Speaker 2>our lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a fair point. I mean, especially we think

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<v Speaker 1>back a little further when Trump made those in his

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<v Speaker 1>first term, he made those Medicaid cuts, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>had these supplements to Medicaid which Republican governors were refusing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's, you know, it's how do they wrangle

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<v Speaker 1>the money out of the federal government and how do

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<v Speaker 1>they make do when you know, the money drives up

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<v Speaker 1>so many other issues. That said, although I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 1>see so many black folks running for governor, some folks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some folks the Byron Donald's of the world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need a black governor that badly. Uh, doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>get me go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, you know, you're you're you're not alone.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why a lot of people are gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>watching this race closely. I mean, he really is taking

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<v Speaker 2>so many pages out of the Trump playbook again, refusing

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<v Speaker 2>to debate even other Republicans in the race. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to ask ourselves, you know, take take the

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<v Speaker 2>party affiliation out of it. Do we really want to

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<v Speaker 2>be electing people to public office that are unwilling to

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<v Speaker 2>debate some of the issues that loom large in our

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<v Speaker 1>Lot, right, and surprise, surprise, I mean some of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff he says is absolutely indefensible. So why would yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>why would he debate? You know, it's the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing you can you can say if you're the resident

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<v Speaker 1>of the White House. It's the kind of thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can say if you're by yourself on a panel with

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of other you know, maga folks. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you say it with people who are fact based, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna hold water. So of course he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to debate. But does does he? I mean, how is

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<v Speaker 1>his polling? Is he gonna is? Does he have a

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<v Speaker 1>strong chance here?

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<v Speaker 2>He has a very strong chance of not just winning

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican nomination, but but winning that seat his uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Democratic opponent it's like David Jolly, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>made cruise towards getting the Democratic nomination. Last poll that

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<v Speaker 2>I saw, I think there was maybe a seven to

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<v Speaker 2>ten point differential, and so you know, Democrats have some

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<v Speaker 2>ground to make up in Florida. But Barra Donald's don't

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<v Speaker 2>underestimate his momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, we shall see.

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<v Speaker 1>When was the last time there was a Democratic governor

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida? I'll google it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so the Charlie I think it was Charlie Cris.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's been a minute. Uh. Doctor Nee Cordelai

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<v Speaker 1>Corte is with me when we come forward. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get your opinion. Why is everyone suddenly piling on

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<v Speaker 1>the resident's girlfriend? I mean human printer, I mean senior advisor,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Nee Cordelai Corte, Dominique Prima for KBLA Talk fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty your News right now with doctor Nee Cordlai Corte.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, doctor Corte, there's been this tradition, if

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<v Speaker 1>you will, in this country, of giving presidents grace when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to their side chicks, you know, Democrat Republican

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<v Speaker 1>probably going all the way back to Washington, George Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I've tracked it that far back,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly going back to Kennedy, these are open secrets

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<v Speaker 1>that the press tends to pass on and fellow politicians

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<v Speaker 1>tend to pass on. But now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's talking about Natalie Harp. And I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>she's his side piece, alleged side piece, but some call

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<v Speaker 1>her is Binkie. That she prints out, you know, letters

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<v Speaker 1>to him, you know, glowing glowing articles about him and

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<v Speaker 1>reads them to him, That she prints out his truth

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<v Speaker 1>social posts, that she does the truth social post, that

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<v Speaker 1>she's written all these love letters to him. And when

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<v Speaker 1>we saw the who was left on the decoy plane

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<v Speaker 1>to possibly be blown up by you know, Iran or whoever,

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<v Speaker 1>and who got to stay with the president in the

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<v Speaker 1>sneaky plane. She was in the sneaky plane and Marco

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<v Speaker 1>Rubio was left to be exploded. Maybe that's why she's

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<v Speaker 1>come into the spotlight. But I noticed, you know, Senator

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<v Speaker 1>oss Off talking about her. There was an article in

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<v Speaker 1>the Huffington Post, several other political types have called it out.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make of that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I can't make much out of it,

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, I have reported from the White House,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as a White House correspondent for KBLA. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been in the oval office of questioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and she's done a great job, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you. And I don't remember much about

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<v Speaker 2>Natalie Harp, and so I can't speak to any observations

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<v Speaker 2>that I've had in their presence, but I know that she's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a thirty five year old Californian, and she

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<v Speaker 2>really came to prominence with Trump back in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>And so their relationship, their relationship working with each other,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't start with his most recent twenty twenty four presidential campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>actually precedes that. And I also learned that she battled

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<v Speaker 2>stage two own cancer, and she she claimed that both

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<v Speaker 2>the political and medical establishment had left her behind, but

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<v Speaker 2>the good Samaritan Trump helped her. So she's so so

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<v Speaker 2>this may even be a co dependent kind of relationship

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<v Speaker 2>where you know, she she sees Trump, you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>as somebody who you know, uh, stepped in and helped

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<v Speaker 2>her in her her darkest moment. And it seems that

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<v Speaker 2>she is, you know, she seems to be sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a security blanket for Trump, a Trump whisperer, if you

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<v Speaker 2>Will and so you know a lot of folks are wondering, well,

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<v Speaker 2>all the people to pick you didn't pick Caroline Levitt.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't take a lot of people. You picked her. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>her own brother says that their relationship is unhealthy, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, you know, but it's interesting that she could

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<v Speaker 2>Here, Yeah, I mean, and this is a this is

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<v Speaker 2>of people that are quite concerned about what that means,

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<v Speaker 2>what that means to have you know, a packed you know,

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<v Speaker 2>looming large yet again. And in another race, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we know that they spent millions of dollars on advertisements

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<v Speaker 2>weeks of this race, and and uh and Ai and

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<v Speaker 2>an A and an a PAX affiliated group, the United

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<v Speaker 2>Another group spent one point seven million dollars on the

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<v Speaker 1>That's insane. One house seat, that's that's right, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>key wealth redistribution on the plus side, but on the

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Abdullah say Ed was outspent right in Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, the reality is is that

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<v Speaker 2>organized people always beat organized money, right. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>right to buy the name ID. Right, But if you

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<v Speaker 2>and ten million dollars to defeat her, and he couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>I would also note Dominique Wahab, who's an Afghan American

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but sometimes that can that can backfire because voters are,

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred and nine to fifteen eighty. If you got

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<v Speaker 1>Dominique de Friema and doctor Nikr la Quarte. I'm KBLA

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<v Speaker 1>Talk fifteen eight. You are, and I have the pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>of talking with my colleague dot or knee Cordelai Corte.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you see him, hear him, and sometimes see

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<v Speaker 1>him Monday through Thursday from four to six here on KBLA.

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<v Speaker 1>a More Perfect Union, also television host and an author,

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<v Speaker 1>among other things, a journalist. We were talking yesterday, doctor Corte,

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, Steven A. Smith saying he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>gave him the Thumbs Down award. And my question was,

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<v Speaker 1>when were they not at war with him? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when was he not at war with the NABJ. What

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<v Speaker 1>did you think about that sort of threat by Stephen A.

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<v Speaker 1>Smith against the NABJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Dominique, as you know, you know, as a member

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<v Speaker 2>NABJ and Steven A. Smith have a pretty long standing relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I learned watching his response on his YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>I think he got that job through a relationship at

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<v Speaker 2>the NABJ, and has been fairly active over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly with the Sports Task Force at the NABJ. And so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he ran down a timeline of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, collaborations with the NABJ. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the ways in which he has supported other members

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<v Speaker 2>of the NABJ, you know, and to be that, but

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't may doctor quarte. He has also gone in on

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<v Speaker 1>lots of members of the na a BJ. Black women

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<v Speaker 1>misogyny and anti blackness of his vituperative commentaries.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think that's fair, Dominique. I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>seeing in the situation. Look, Aaron Haynes, the president in

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<v Speaker 2>a BJ, is a friend. We've worked together. We've been

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<v Speaker 2>on the campaign trail together covering Kamala Harris and other

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<v Speaker 2>And I know how she leads. She she leads with integrity.

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<v Speaker 2>when we have these these powerful platforms, Dominique, we have

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<v Speaker 2>Do you using the punch up or do you using

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<v Speaker 2>the punch down? Right? You know? Do you use them

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<v Speaker 2>Right when you have the president of the United States

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<v Speaker 2>that says that he's dumb as rocks, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>he does not push forward with a response that is

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<v Speaker 2>folks believe that uh uh, he may be doing the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I also want to mention in all fairness, Dominique,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we talked about that. There quite a long list actually, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, including SEC chairman Brendan Carr. Uh for the folks

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to be honest with you, I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>even impacts us at KBLA. You know, when we interview,

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<v Speaker 2>We saw what happened to black journalists like Don Lemon

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<v Speaker 2>and Georgia Ford, who, by the way, prought a case

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<v Speaker 2>and they are still having to go through the process

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<v Speaker 2>of clearing their name. Right. That's not cheap, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>so I personally, as a member of NABJA, I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to see NABJA stand up a legal defense fund right

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<v Speaker 2>for independent journalists who may not have the resources that

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<v Speaker 2>Don Lemon has or the resources that Georgia Ford and

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<v Speaker 2>others may have been able to put together. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know that's that is quite possible under the leadership

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<v Speaker 2>of Aaron Haynes. I know this is something that she

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<v Speaker 2>is looking into, something that we have talked about offline,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but I'm worried Dominique about the potential retaliation

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<v Speaker 2>as a result of these thumbs down. And we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to be making sure that we keep our eye on

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<v Speaker 2>the job security of black journalists across the country, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>in small markets across the country. You know, we cannot

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<v Speaker 2>allow uh, you know, these these major media companies that

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<v Speaker 2>are sitting on a lot of money right to to

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<v Speaker 2>scuttle the potential and the hopes and dreams uh of

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<v Speaker 2>black journalists, the commitment that black journalists have to the

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<v Speaker 2>tradition of the black press. And so I think NABJSON

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<v Speaker 2>a very strong message saying, you know that they're on notice,

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<v Speaker 2>each and every one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, But I think that's a really good observation,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Corte, because right now, you know, we see this

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<v Speaker 1>media consolidation, and we see the broligarchs, these billionaire tech

444
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<v Speaker 1>guys that are all supporting the Trump presidency at this point,

445
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<v Speaker 1>and the MAGA agenda buying up everything TikTok, and you know,

446
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<v Speaker 1>this massive consolidation with the Warner Brothers deal, and you

447
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<v Speaker 1>know which is followed in an already massive consolidation with

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<v Speaker 1>the Paramount deal. And so you know, even with the NBC,

449
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<v Speaker 1>these ABC stations, their licenses are not up for review.

450
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<v Speaker 1>Brendan Carr just decided to call for an early review

451
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<v Speaker 1>because he says that they're they're interviewing too many Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>and there's not equal time. Which is interesting because he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the same critique of the Fox News stations

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<v Speaker 1>or o N or any of these other stations that

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<v Speaker 1>have almost no Democrats, almost no opposite perspectives. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>been a community affairs public affairs community action person at

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<v Speaker 1>a radio station, a big one and actually more than one.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know what you have to file. It's a lot, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to prove that you're worthwhile in the community,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're being fair and all this stuff. But most

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<v Speaker 1>most stations don't even follow that anymore. As far as

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<v Speaker 1>equal time. I mean, we are really scrupulous about it

463
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<v Speaker 1>here at KBLA, but most stations don't even follow it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea that he would shut stations down or

465
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<v Speaker 1>takeaway licenses and then hand them over to these billionaires

466
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<v Speaker 1>for even more consolidation is a real concern.

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<v Speaker 2>It is absolutely a real concern. And this is why

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we encourage people to you know, download the

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<v Speaker 2>KBLA asping bread the words right and support independent media

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<v Speaker 2>because otherwise, you know, there will come a time where

471
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<v Speaker 2>the brologarchs as you call them, are going to own

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<v Speaker 2>an even more substantial share of the media platforms that

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<v Speaker 2>we're on. And when they decided to change the rules,

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<v Speaker 2>when they decided to change the algorithm, for example, where

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<v Speaker 2>content that may be of political nature, content that may

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<v Speaker 2>be unapologetically black, that kind of content may be more suppressed,

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<v Speaker 2>and other content. We've got to be prepared for that

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<v Speaker 2>we shouldn't just be reactionary when it happened. We need

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<v Speaker 2>to be preparing for that right now. And so, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the work that we're doing here at KBLA, the work

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<v Speaker 2>that Joy Read and Don Lemon and so many others

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<v Speaker 2>are doing on YouTube. You know, I think there's an

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<v Speaker 2>independent media revolution that is afoot, and it's on all

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<v Speaker 2>of us to tap in and more importantly, to support

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<v Speaker 2>and to lift up and to cite, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>sort of you know journalism that is taking place in

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<v Speaker 2>the tradition of the black press.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, it's not too late to call us eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and nine to oh, fifteen eighty, eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>nine too oh fifteen eighty. We do have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. You belong here. I'm Dominique Duprima and

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<v Speaker 1>I am joined this hour by KBLA Talk fifteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>chief National Affairs Analyst, doctor nik Corlai Corte. He is

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<v Speaker 1>on this radio station Monday through Thursday from four to

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<v Speaker 1>six pm, and then occasionally when I can coax him

496
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<v Speaker 1>on the air with me, he has to do a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit double duty. Got a bunch of folks that

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<v Speaker 1>would like to speak with you. I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to those phones. But I also want to quickly address

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<v Speaker 1>something we have not talked about, which you pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>to me, which is Oprah kind of pushing back a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on her her legacy, if you will, of

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Oz and doctor Phil, two prominent TV doctors who

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<v Speaker 1>started out in the Oprah sort of Oprah's sphere, who

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<v Speaker 1>are both very much right wing. I wanted to say weirdos,

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<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't sound professional, like I don't know. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>she's taking heat for their positions, and she's kind of saying.

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<v Speaker 2>What Well, she's saying, you know, that everybody has their

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<v Speaker 2>own path in life and that it has not one

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do with me. That's what she's says. In

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<v Speaker 2>an interview with Emmy magazine. She says that she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have one thing to do with them, right, and so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is probably the harshest language that we've heard,

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<v Speaker 2>most direct language. I should say that we've heard from

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<v Speaker 2>Oprah Winfrey about doctor Oz and doctor Phil, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>who have been in Trump's orbit for some time. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember doctor Oz had run for Senates uh in New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, and lost that race, and he ran as

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<v Speaker 2>a Republican and so you know, look, the reality is

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<v Speaker 2>is that you know, we may work with people over

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<v Speaker 2>the years. There are folks that I went to high

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<v Speaker 2>school with that are maga and we and there are

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<v Speaker 2>are friends I have, I have friends, I have friends

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<v Speaker 2>that went to more House that you know are are maga. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And and so you know, just because you know somebody

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<v Speaker 2>may have had an affiliation a collaboration once time a time,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not responsible for someone's choices the rest of their life.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get that, But also, like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a pattern of elevating people that turn out to

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<v Speaker 1>be maga, do you think that you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>some reflection about why that is?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I is not maga, you know is not maga. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, are a lot of people in Oprah's.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I'm just saying, yeah, okay, and I get that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I have a family member that is maga.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying to act like you have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it. I don't know, doctor Corte, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe I don't know how many folks have

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<v Speaker 1>you elevated in the media space that turn out to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, you know, I don't have a great track

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<v Speaker 2>record on that front, and I'm not mad about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I've helped a lot of people over

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<v Speaker 1>the years. I call it the unofficial Dominique de Prima

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<v Speaker 1>school of broadcasting, and so far not one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I'm not saying it couldn't happen. It

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely could. I don't know. Maybe you're right, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to leave that people. I think if you're Oprah and

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<v Speaker 1>you have the influence that she has, which few people

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<v Speaker 1>in modern history do, you know, and you're a spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>person like she is, that maybe some self reflection might

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<v Speaker 1>be in order.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but but but Dominique, let me just let

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<v Speaker 2>me just put this in a little extra context. For

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who has a storied career in broadcasting has interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>over four thousand people over the years, myself included. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we can focus on the handful of folks that are

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<v Speaker 2>in very prominent positions in our government and that have

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<v Speaker 2>gone full maga, you know, or we can look at

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<v Speaker 2>the breath of the people that she has elevated in

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<v Speaker 2>one form or another over the years. Right, And so

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's part of what she's saying is that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she can't be responsible for the path that

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<v Speaker 2>everyone takes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I get it. I get it. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not sure if a total lack of responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, is fair. But okay, I love that

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<v Speaker 1>she's pushing back and making her position clear. You know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's go to Shon calling us from Long Beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Sean.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, good morning to you and your guests.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you blessed? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Well, let's just just

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<v Speaker 3>get to just get to it. We got these midterms

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<v Speaker 3>coming up, got the twenty eight presidential election coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>You got a lot of Democrats who itching to get

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<v Speaker 3>back in power. They want to take over the government,

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<v Speaker 3>get it back from the mac Republican Trump treating the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump Traders scumbags that's in office now. My question is

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<v Speaker 3>what is the Democratic national platform when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>things that are specifically specifically for black people. Not the

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<v Speaker 3>Rising Tide Raises all boats theory, because that's that's tired

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<v Speaker 3>and warning played out. I don't see any type of

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<v Speaker 3>national agenda that's on the Democratic platform. But any of

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<v Speaker 3>these candidates that said, hey, mister black people, miss black people,

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<v Speaker 3>you come in, vote for me and put me in office.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what I will do for y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not talking about a platinum plan doctor knee

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<v Speaker 1>court lay like Quarte, do you have thoughts on them?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I think this is a question that

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<v Speaker 2>comes up every election cycle, is what is the black agenda?

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<v Speaker 2>And who's going to be the greatest champion for the

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<v Speaker 2>black agenda? I can tell you traveling across the country,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, black people too are concerned about affordability. Black

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<v Speaker 2>people too are concerned about getting capital to grow their businesses,

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<v Speaker 2>to start their businesses, to scale their businesses. You might

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<v Speaker 2>remember CDFI's Community Development Financial Institutions have taken a huge

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<v Speaker 2>hit under the Trump administration. This is this has been

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<v Speaker 2>a major source of funding, you know, for black businesses.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think to your point, the people need to

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<v Speaker 2>hear Okay, we know this has happened. So Democrats, what

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna do about it? And between now and November

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<v Speaker 2>that is the task of not just the Democrats, but

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<v Speaker 2>folks who are running in opposition to the MAGA Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know, if you check out what the

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<v Speaker 2>Working Families Party is fighting for, you look at their agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at the agenda of DSA, you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the agenda Democrats who are running right, You know there's

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<v Speaker 2>some there there. But to the point of the caller,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot more work between now and election day

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<v Speaker 2>to make it plain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, and also I think it's also on

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<v Speaker 1>us to put out there what we want and put pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>The hour is almost upon us, though, scheon. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for your call. Dr Corte. Remind people how to follow

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<v Speaker 2>of our most memorable conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for stepping in this morning. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always fun to talk with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Wise. Thank you, Dominique the Prima, See.

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<v Speaker 1>You soon, Doctor Nikolai Corte. What is the real story

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<v Speaker 1>of what happened to the la jazz festival that is Next.

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<v Speaker 1>Festival founder Martin Ludlow joins me on KBLA Talk fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty
