1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: KBLA Talk fifteen eighty we are talking politics. I'm so 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,720 pleased to have my colleague on board with me this morning. 3 00:00:10,359 --> 00:00:13,400 He's a journalist and educator and he is KBLA Talk 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:19,199 fifteen eighties chief National Affairs Analyst. He's a podcaster, a 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,359 TV guy, and so much more. Doctor Nie Cordelaine Corte 6 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:26,160 can also be heard Monday through Thursday from four to 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,039 six pm right here, so that means he's doing a 8 00:00:29,079 --> 00:00:32,320 little double duty today. Good morning, doctor Corte. 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: Good morning dominiquea Prima. 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,799 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for chapping in with me today. 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,320 There's so much going on it's making my head explode. 12 00:00:42,359 --> 00:00:44,759 I don't know how you keep track of all these primaries, 13 00:00:44,799 --> 00:00:48,159 and I try, I really do, but it's just a 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,640 lot to keep in your head right now. 15 00:00:51,079 --> 00:00:52,759 Speaker 2: It's a lot going on, a lot to keep in 16 00:00:52,799 --> 00:00:55,119 the head. But you know, a lot of odds are 17 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:59,920 going to be on Florida today because they're having their primary. 18 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:05,719 And you know, you got some pretty prominent black folks 19 00:01:06,079 --> 00:01:07,920 that are going to be on the ballot. I'm talking 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:16,719 about representative GOP Representative Byron Donald's he's running as running 21 00:01:16,719 --> 00:01:20,560 for the right. He's running for the Republican nomination for 22 00:01:20,799 --> 00:01:26,439 governor of Florida. He has chosen not to debate anybody 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,480 that is also running for the Republican nomination for governor, 24 00:01:30,519 --> 00:01:33,760 and so all eyes are on that race. Also, all 25 00:01:33,799 --> 00:01:39,719 eyes are on the congressional race where State Representative Chevron 26 00:01:39,799 --> 00:01:45,799 Jones is running for congress. This is a seat that 27 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,120 is highly coveted. You might remember Chevron Jones. Nador Jones 28 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:55,480 has been in the news recently because there were some 29 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,239 opponents there that had leaked a false story that he 30 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:03,959 was HIV pop and was trying to use that as 31 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:08,680 a bludgeon against him in this race. But if the 32 00:02:08,719 --> 00:02:11,800 polls hold and the polls are in his favor, he 33 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:17,840 may very well, uh get the nomination for that congressional 34 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:18,719 seat we want to run. 35 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean, like as we started out, there's so many 36 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,159 different stories here. You started on Florida where they have 37 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,560 Donald's running for governor, but it seems like we could 38 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,199 end up with the slew of black governors, I mean 39 00:02:34,199 --> 00:02:37,840 as possible. Right we have we just have won right now, right, 40 00:02:37,879 --> 00:02:42,479 which is Wes Moore more. Yeah, but there's a bunch 41 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,599 of people running. You know. Keisha Lance Bottoms made it 42 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:52,240 to their runoff there in Georgia, and you mentioned Donald's, 43 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,879 but there are several others, so I don't some of 44 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,639 them Republicans. This is one of their new hats tricks, right, 45 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:10,800 running black Republicans for for governor. So we could see several. 46 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:17,960 I guess, uh, Aaron Ford is running in Nevada, Jermaine 47 00:03:18,039 --> 00:03:22,319 Johnson in South Carolina? What how what do you make 48 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,360 of that? Do you think that is that significant? Do 49 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,639 you think it's a sea change or you think it's 50 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:33,400 just a cute strategy rephn Representative John James in Michigan. 51 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:38,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also and also David Crowley who just won 52 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:43,599 the Democratic primary in Wescontint. That's right, you mentioned Keisha 53 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:47,120 Lance Bottoms in Georgia. I mean, you know this is 54 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:48,759 a sea change. I don't. I don't know how to 55 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,199 look at it any other way, you know. I recently 56 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:54,719 had an opportunity to to do a wide ranging sit 57 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,280 down interview with Maryland Governor Wes Moore, who also happens 58 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,159 to be the chair now of the National Governors Association, 59 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:06,159 the first black governor to be chair of the National 60 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:09,400 Governor's Association in one hundred and eighteen years and so 61 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:14,680 that also is significant. But I remember during that interview 62 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:18,399 he told me the story of a conversation he had 63 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,199 with former Massachusetts Governor Duval Patrick. He was the second 64 00:04:23,319 --> 00:04:26,639 elected black governor in the United States, and there was 65 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:31,040 something that Governor Patrick said to him that really stayed 66 00:04:31,079 --> 00:04:33,759 with him. He said, look, you know, his only regret 67 00:04:34,319 --> 00:04:37,360 is that he didn't start to think about the third 68 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,839 black governor in the United States until after he was 69 00:04:39,879 --> 00:04:44,519 out of office. And so that is a reality that 70 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:50,720 has motivated Governor Wes Moore to spend some political capitals 71 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,279 and to get out on the campaign trail and help 72 00:04:53,399 --> 00:04:57,399 elect more black governors across the country. He has been 73 00:04:57,439 --> 00:05:00,639 on the campaign trail supporting Keisha Lan's Bott in Georgia, 74 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:06,399 Jermaine Johnson South Carolina, Aaron Ford in Nevada, and will 75 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,639 likely be on the campaign trail supporting David Crowley in Wisconsin. 76 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,959 He is in high demand. You know, his endorsement matters, 77 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:19,319 and it's good to see not just more black folks 78 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:23,319 running for governor, but being competitive in their run for 79 00:05:23,399 --> 00:05:27,120 governor and being supported by the only sitting black governor 80 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,759 in the United States, Governor Wes Moore. 81 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,199 Speaker 1: Right, And you mentioned deval Patrick there. You know, they're 82 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,759 Douglas Wilder back in the I guess nineties. There have 83 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,959 been very very few. I think it's like six or 84 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,639 five or six seven in all of US history, going 85 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,160 all the way back. And so if we end up 86 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,680 with a handful, that would be that would be significant. 87 00:05:52,959 --> 00:05:55,199 And of course Keisha Lance Bonds would be the first 88 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:57,240 black woman to serve as a governor. 89 00:05:57,319 --> 00:06:00,199 Speaker 2: Right, that's right, it's right. I'm also part of why 90 00:06:00,199 --> 00:06:03,720 this is a significant dominique. As you know, there's so 91 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:06,879 much that's happening on the state and local level as 92 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:13,519 a check on the Trump administration and Republicans that are 93 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,120 considering federalizing the elections even though the Constitution says you 94 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,480 can't do that. But this president and Republicans are playing 95 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,480 foot see with the Save Act, which really is nothing 96 00:06:23,519 --> 00:06:27,560 but a voter suppression bill. But you know, the counterweight 97 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:32,439 to some of the tactics and antics that we're seeing 98 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,839 coming out of this administration is on the state and 99 00:06:35,959 --> 00:06:42,040 local level. Governor's matter, mayor's matter, especially when we talk 100 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:46,240 about sanctuary cities, sanctuary states, when we talk about getting 101 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:52,759 creative about addressing some of these deficits in funding that 102 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,759 are directly tied to the so called Big Beautiful Bill, 103 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:01,160 remember the cuts to Medicaid for example. Absolutely, well, it's governors. 104 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:03,319 It's governors have to figure out how to make those 105 00:07:03,439 --> 00:07:07,319 ends meet. And so not only is the consequential that 106 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:12,319 these folks happen to be highly competitive black folks running 107 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:15,079 for governor, but they're running for governor at a time 108 00:07:15,079 --> 00:07:19,480 where that office has probably never been more important in 109 00:07:19,519 --> 00:07:20,160 our lifetime. 110 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fair point. I mean, especially we think 111 00:07:23,639 --> 00:07:28,199 back a little further when Trump made those in his 112 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:32,199 first term, he made those Medicaid cuts, and then we 113 00:07:32,279 --> 00:07:37,439 had these supplements to Medicaid which Republican governors were refusing. 114 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:41,839 And so it's, you know, it's how do they wrangle 115 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:45,319 the money out of the federal government and how do 116 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,720 they make do when you know, the money drives up 117 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,560 so many other issues. That said, although I'm happy to 118 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,600 see so many black folks running for governor, some folks, 119 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:04,040 you know, some folks the Byron Donald's of the world. Yeah, 120 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:09,399 we don't need a black governor that badly. Uh, doctor, 121 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,639 get me go ahead. 122 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:14,759 Speaker 2: No, I mean, you know, you're you're you're not alone. 123 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,000 And that's why a lot of people are gonna be 124 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,759 watching this race closely. I mean, he really is taking 125 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,160 so many pages out of the Trump playbook again, refusing 126 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,839 to debate even other Republicans in the race. I mean, 127 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:29,639 we've got to ask ourselves, you know, take take the 128 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:32,360 party affiliation out of it. Do we really want to 129 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,279 be electing people to public office that are unwilling to 130 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:39,399 debate some of the issues that loom large in our 131 00:08:39,399 --> 00:08:39,840 every day. 132 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Lot, right, and surprise, surprise, I mean some of the 133 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,600 stuff he says is absolutely indefensible. So why would yeah, 134 00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:50,720 why would he debate? You know, it's the kind of 135 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,840 thing you can you can say if you're the resident 136 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,000 of the White House. It's the kind of thing you 137 00:08:56,039 --> 00:08:58,320 can say if you're by yourself on a panel with 138 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,960 a bunch of other you know, maga folks. But if 139 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,759 you say it with people who are fact based, it's 140 00:09:05,799 --> 00:09:08,000 not gonna hold water. So of course he doesn't want 141 00:09:08,039 --> 00:09:13,639 to debate. But does does he? I mean, how is 142 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,120 his polling? Is he gonna is? Does he have a 143 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:17,159 strong chance here? 144 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: He has a very strong chance of not just winning 145 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,840 the Republican nomination, but but winning that seat his uh, 146 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,080 you know, Democratic opponent it's like David Jolly, you know, 147 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:35,080 made cruise towards getting the Democratic nomination. Last poll that 148 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,360 I saw, I think there was maybe a seven to 149 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,519 ten point differential, and so you know, Democrats have some 150 00:09:40,639 --> 00:09:46,399 ground to make up in Florida. But Barra Donald's don't 151 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,399 underestimate his momentum. 152 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. 153 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:49,759 Speaker 2: Wow, we shall see. 154 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: When was the last time there was a Democratic governor 155 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,240 in Florida? I'll google it. 156 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: Uh so the Charlie I think it was Charlie Cris. 157 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's been a minute. Uh. Doctor Nee Cordelai 158 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,799 Corte is with me when we come forward. I want 159 00:10:06,799 --> 00:10:10,240 to get your opinion. Why is everyone suddenly piling on 160 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:18,639 the resident's girlfriend? I mean human printer, I mean senior advisor, 161 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,240 Doctor Nee Cordelai Corte, Dominique Prima for KBLA Talk fifteen 162 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,879 eighty your News right now with doctor Nee Cordlai Corte. 163 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,159 I feel like, doctor Corte, there's been this tradition, if 164 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,720 you will, in this country, of giving presidents grace when 165 00:10:36,759 --> 00:10:41,200 it comes to their side chicks, you know, Democrat Republican 166 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:44,600 probably going all the way back to Washington, George Washington. 167 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,840 I don't know that I've tracked it that far back, 168 00:10:46,879 --> 00:10:52,559 but certainly going back to Kennedy, these are open secrets 169 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,919 that the press tends to pass on and fellow politicians 170 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,840 tend to pass on. But now all of a sudden, 171 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 everyone's talking about Natalie Harp. And I don't know that 172 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,000 she's his side piece, alleged side piece, but some call 173 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:12,080 her is Binkie. That she prints out, you know, letters 174 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,679 to him, you know, glowing glowing articles about him and 175 00:11:16,799 --> 00:11:20,480 reads them to him, That she prints out his truth 176 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,519 social posts, that she does the truth social post, that 177 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,240 she's written all these love letters to him. And when 178 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,080 we saw the who was left on the decoy plane 179 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,399 to possibly be blown up by you know, Iran or whoever, 180 00:11:36,919 --> 00:11:39,399 and who got to stay with the president in the 181 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:44,120 sneaky plane. She was in the sneaky plane and Marco 182 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:49,399 Rubio was left to be exploded. Maybe that's why she's 183 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:53,919 come into the spotlight. But I noticed, you know, Senator 184 00:11:53,919 --> 00:11:56,720 oss Off talking about her. There was an article in 185 00:11:56,799 --> 00:12:03,080 the Huffington Post, several other political types have called it out. 186 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:04,440 What do you make of that? 187 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I can't make much out of it, 188 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,960 As you know, I have reported from the White House, 189 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,080 you know, as a White House correspondent for KBLA. I've 190 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,360 been in the oval office of questioned. 191 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: Trump and she's done a great job, by the way. 192 00:12:25,279 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. And I don't remember much about 193 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,720 Natalie Harp, and so I can't speak to any observations 194 00:12:32,759 --> 00:12:36,840 that I've had in their presence, but I know that she's, 195 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,960 you know, a thirty five year old Californian, and she 196 00:12:41,039 --> 00:12:45,039 really came to prominence with Trump back in twenty nineteen. 197 00:12:45,159 --> 00:12:49,879 And so their relationship, their relationship working with each other, 198 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:55,080 didn't start with his most recent twenty twenty four presidential campaign, 199 00:12:55,159 --> 00:12:59,080 actually precedes that. And I also learned that she battled 200 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,639 stage two own cancer, and she she claimed that both 201 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:07,000 the political and medical establishment had left her behind, but 202 00:13:08,039 --> 00:13:11,480 the good Samaritan Trump helped her. So she's so so 203 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,159 this may even be a co dependent kind of relationship 204 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,120 where you know, she she sees Trump, you know, as 205 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,879 as somebody who you know, uh, stepped in and helped 206 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,600 her in her her darkest moment. And it seems that 207 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,960 she is, you know, she seems to be sort of 208 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,679 a security blanket for Trump, a Trump whisperer, if you 209 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,639 Will and so you know a lot of folks are wondering, well, 210 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:45,600 you know, why are you on the decoy plane and 211 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:48,120 all the people to pick you didn't pick Caroline Levitt. 212 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:51,440 You didn't take a lot of people. You picked her. Uh, 213 00:13:51,519 --> 00:13:53,799 you know, I think it's because of some bond, some 214 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,320 trust that they developed, you know, whether it's more than that. 215 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,799 It's everybody else's guests. But I just wanted to make 216 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,799 sure that the audience has a sense of, you know, 217 00:14:03,039 --> 00:14:06,679 the origin story as has been reported about the relationship. 218 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: I mean, and she was on Fox News and she 219 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:15,320 was on Oam. You know. So he likes to find 220 00:14:15,399 --> 00:14:20,360 people friends and people from his administration off of television, 221 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,120 and so she fits that. She's a you know, attractive, 222 00:14:25,559 --> 00:14:32,200 skinny blonde, so she fits that description. So and you know, 223 00:14:32,279 --> 00:14:37,120 her own brother says that their relationship is unhealthy, whatever 224 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,879 it is, you know, but it's interesting that she could 225 00:14:40,919 --> 00:14:47,799 be so close to the president and have really gone 226 00:14:47,879 --> 00:14:53,559 without a lot of you know, scrutiny, as you point out, 227 00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:56,440 from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty six, and now all 228 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,960 of a sudden everyone is talking about her, even you know, 229 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,480 rival politicians. So it we'll see. But it seems like 230 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,559 is this a new is this a new thing now 231 00:15:07,559 --> 00:15:10,320 where we're gonna start talking about all of the people 232 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:16,320 in these politicians' orbits and and speaking of that back 233 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,919 to the primary, I didn't realize doctor Knee Corday Corte 234 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:26,240 that they are they're competing to fill Eric Swalwell's seat 235 00:15:26,679 --> 00:15:32,000 in northern California that is also on the primary agenda today, 236 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,559 and we have sort of a repeating theme. You've got 237 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:41,879 two Democrats who are you know, one is more progressive 238 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:47,480 and one is back by Apak and and pro Israel 239 00:15:47,559 --> 00:15:54,120 dollars to a very large degree. This same conversation that's 240 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:58,320 been playing out and other in other states is actually 241 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:05,639 happening in California. For that fourteenth district, State Senator Aishawa 242 00:16:05,759 --> 00:16:12,360 Hobb is running against BART board president Melissa or Nandez, 243 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:19,159 and apparently the American Israel Public Affairs Committee super pac 244 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,360 has spent more than two million dollars to try to 245 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:23,159 defeat w Hobb. 246 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, I mean, and this is a this is 247 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,080 a trend that we're seeing in races across the country 248 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,240 where you know, you got big money, big special interest 249 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:38,320 money that is very active in these congressional races. We're 250 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,919 talking about a PAC money being one of the biggest 251 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:43,960 pot that's out there, AI money being another big pot 252 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,120 of money out there, Crypto being another pot of money 253 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,200 that's out there. And so those seem to be the 254 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,759 special interests that are are throwing down the most in 255 00:16:53,799 --> 00:16:58,240 these congressional races. And you know, there are a number 256 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,000 of people that are quite concerned about what that means, 257 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,440 what that means to have you know, a packed you know, 258 00:17:05,519 --> 00:17:09,599 looming large yet again. And in another race, you know, 259 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,440 we know that they spent millions of dollars on advertisements 260 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,839 to think Wahab's candidacy and boost Hernandez in the final 261 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,759 weeks of this race, and and uh and Ai and 262 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,359 an A and an a PAX affiliated group, the United 263 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:30,559 Democracy Project, they spent one point two million dollars on 264 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,240 the race in August in support of Fernandez and in 265 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,839 opposition to Wahab. That's according to a Federal Election Commission report. 266 00:17:39,519 --> 00:17:43,759 Another group spent one point seven million dollars on the 267 00:17:43,839 --> 00:17:48,799 race and so collectively dominate outside groups, they spent over 268 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,759 four million dollars on the race. 269 00:17:50,839 --> 00:17:57,319 Speaker 1: That's insane. One house seat, that's that's right, that's just 270 00:17:57,759 --> 00:17:59,640 it's hard for me to get my mind around that. 271 00:18:00,599 --> 00:18:02,759 I always think of it as some kind of low 272 00:18:02,839 --> 00:18:07,559 key wealth redistribution on the plus side, but on the 273 00:18:07,599 --> 00:18:12,240 minor side. You know, that means that you cannot win 274 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,400 these races without big, big money, or can you. I 275 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:22,759 don't know. Abdullah say Ed was outspent right in Michigan 276 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,119 and still prevailed. 277 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, the reality is is that 278 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,480 organized people always beat organized money, right. You know, the 279 00:18:32,599 --> 00:18:36,160 organized money is really intended to buy the people power 280 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,200 right to buy the name ID. Right, But if you 281 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:43,160 have organizers on the ground on the job. I mean, 282 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,279 look at not just you know, mister l s a 283 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,720 Ed in Michigan, but you know, let's look at our 284 00:18:47,759 --> 00:18:50,960 own backyard. Four years ago, when Karen Bass is running 285 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,960 from mayor against Rick Caruso. He spent over one hundred 286 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,759 and ten million dollars to defeat her, and he couldn't 287 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,720 in part because of the ground game that then candidate 288 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:06,039 Bass you know, had here in LA And so that 289 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,680 stuff makes the difference. And so just because you see 290 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,880 the big numbers, just because you see a lot of 291 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,480 the money pouring in, it doesn't It's not inevitable that 292 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:18,359 the person with the biggest pocketbook is going to win. 293 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:23,400 I would also note Dominique Wahab, who's an Afghan American 294 00:19:23,759 --> 00:19:26,720 who is the first Muslim woman elected to the California 295 00:19:26,759 --> 00:19:31,720 State Senate. She's called out the genocide in Gaza and 296 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,480 legislator from condemning it. And so that's a part of 297 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,799 what is animating the support of special interest in this race. 298 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, but sometimes that can that can backfire because voters are, 299 00:19:43,839 --> 00:19:47,279 you know, on alert for being controlled by foreign interest. 300 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,640 Eight hundred and nine to fifteen eighty. If you got 301 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,039 a question, we've got news, traffic and sports. Then more 302 00:19:52,079 --> 00:19:55,599 Dominique de Friema and doctor Nikr la Quarte. I'm KBLA 303 00:19:55,839 --> 00:19:58,039 Talk fifteen eight. You are, and I have the pleasure 304 00:19:58,079 --> 00:20:01,960 of talking with my colleague dot or knee Cordelai Corte. 305 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,480 Of course you see him, hear him, and sometimes see 306 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:10,319 him Monday through Thursday from four to six here on KBLA. 307 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,359 He is our chief national Affairs analyst and host of 308 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,000 a More Perfect Union, also television host and an author, 309 00:20:19,839 --> 00:20:24,279 among other things, a journalist. We were talking yesterday, doctor Corte, 310 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,799 about you know, Steven A. Smith saying he's going to 311 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,599 war with the National Association of Black Journalists because they 312 00:20:31,599 --> 00:20:35,279 gave him the Thumbs Down award. And my question was, 313 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,319 when were they not at war with him? I mean, 314 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:41,440 when was he not at war with the NABJ. What 315 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:46,279 did you think about that sort of threat by Stephen A. 316 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,960 Smith against the NABJ. 317 00:20:49,599 --> 00:20:52,839 Speaker 2: Well, Dominique, as you know, you know, as a member 318 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:57,960 of NABJ, I was at the NABJ convention in Atlanta. 319 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,839 I just came back Saturday night, and so I missed 320 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,000 some of the fireworks at the gallo where they announced 321 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,680 the thumbs up and thumbs down. But it's it's interesting 322 00:21:09,839 --> 00:21:15,480 NABJ and Steven A. Smith have a pretty long standing relationship. 323 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:18,799 In fact, I learned watching his response on his YouTube 324 00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:23,200 channel yesterday afternoon that he got his start at NABJ, 325 00:21:24,039 --> 00:21:28,079 like so many black journalists, he started at the Philadelphia Choir. 326 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,559 I think he got that job through a relationship at 327 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:35,240 the NABJ, and has been fairly active over the years, 328 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,359 particularly with the Sports Task Force at the NABJ. And so, 329 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,519 you know, he ran down a timeline of you know, 330 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:48,039 you know, you know, collaborations with the NABJ. You know, 331 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,240 all the ways in which he has supported other members 332 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,119 of the NABJ, you know, and to be that, but 333 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:55,599 be that. 334 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,519 Speaker 1: Isn't may doctor quarte. He has also gone in on 335 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,640 lots of members of the na a BJ. Black women 336 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,440 are his favorite targets, and so he can write all 337 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,200 that stuff he wants to, but it doesn't erase the 338 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:11,960 misogyny and anti blackness of his vituperative commentaries. 339 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,279 Speaker 2: I think I think that's fair, Dominique. I think there's 340 00:22:15,319 --> 00:22:19,119 there's a lot to hold. And you know, even a 341 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,400 broken clock is right twice a day, right, and and 342 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,240 and and and I think that's part of what we're 343 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,759 seeing in the situation. Look, Aaron Haynes, the president in 344 00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:31,519 a BJ, is a friend. We've worked together. We've been 345 00:22:31,519 --> 00:22:34,400 on the campaign trail together covering Kamala Harris and other 346 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,640 sort of issues. 347 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 348 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: And I know how she leads. She she leads with integrity. 349 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:46,720 Uh and uh you know she. I hope that that 350 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,079 that this marks the beginning of you know, a better 351 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:56,519 stephen a right moving forward. That's something that he certainly pledged, 352 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,440 or at least appeared to pledge in his video, responds 353 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,240 that I had a chance to look at yesterday. Everybody 354 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,119 else can take a look at it on their own 355 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,400 on YouTube and make their own determination. But you know, 356 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,759 when we have these these powerful platforms, Dominique, we have 357 00:23:13,799 --> 00:23:16,720 to be responsible in terms of how we use them. 358 00:23:17,079 --> 00:23:18,720 Do you using the punch up or do you using 359 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:21,920 the punch down? Right? You know? Do you use them 360 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,319 to critique fairly or unfairly? Right? And I think that's 361 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,440 a big part of what people are calling out, particularly 362 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,079 on the internet streets, is that he does not have 363 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,480 a track record of of acting fairly in his critiques. 364 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:38,839 Right when you have the president of the United States 365 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,920 that says that he's dumb as rocks, you know, and 366 00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:47,400 he does not push forward with a response that is 367 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,440 as energetic and as full throated as what you might 368 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,119 say about you know, a Joy Read or a Kamala 369 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,440 Harris or you know or someone else. That is where uh, 370 00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:04,359 folks believe that uh uh, he may be doing the 371 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,160 bidden of folks outside of our community, and so uh, 372 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,039 you know, I also want to mention in all fairness, Dominique, 373 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,799 that there were other folks that also got a thumbs 374 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:14,799 down vote. 375 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about that. There quite a long list actually, yeah. 376 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, including SEC chairman Brendan Carr. Uh for the folks 377 00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:27,640 over at CBS, which, as you know, their editorial now 378 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,599 being led by Barry Wiss, has led to the firing 379 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,559 of a lot of black journalists. Right. And so while 380 00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:37,519 Stephen A. Smith and and the tango with the NABJ 381 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,799 seems to be getting the most attention, I want to 382 00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:44,519 remind our audience you know that, uh, the the work 383 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:47,279 of Brendan Carr and what we're seeing happening happening at 384 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:52,640 CBS is extremely consequential. Uh and is and and imposes 385 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,359 a significant challenge to the black press at a time 386 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,759 where we need a robust black press and a a 387 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,440 robust independent press that is clearly filling the squeeze in undertack. 388 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean to be honest with you, I thought that 389 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,640 was pretty bold of them to call out Brandon Carr 390 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,279 like that. Folks. Licenses can be on the line. We 391 00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:18,519 see ABC today suing the FCC because the FCC is 392 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,200 threatening its TV licenses, and ABC is claiming that this 393 00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:27,839 is retaliatory, right, that this is coming from Brendan Carr, 394 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:35,680 who is a Trump acolyte, and is unfair. He says 395 00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:38,720 that the FCC is afringing on their First Amendment rights. 396 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,519 It's asking the court to stop them from going after 397 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:46,559 their licenses that they say can can pose an existential 398 00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:50,720 threat to their operations. And I think, you know, we 399 00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:54,519 know you call out Brandon Carr. He is the head 400 00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:57,480 of the FCC. He is going after not just TV 401 00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:00,799 but also radio licenses. One of the things he said 402 00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:03,039 is he's going to end d EI and radio, which 403 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:07,240 isn't even a thing. And so I thought that was pretty, 404 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:10,240 you know, strong stance to take. 405 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,839 Speaker 2: I have a very strong stance, And I just want 406 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,799 to remind, you know, our listeners that, you know, it 407 00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:18,880 even impacts us at KBLA. You know, when we interview, 408 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,000 when we interview candidates for public office, when we interview 409 00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:27,640 elected officials, we actually have to fill out a form 410 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:32,559 that that tracks, you know, who is joining us on air, 411 00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:36,440 what they're talking about, you know, and how long they're 412 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,400 on air with us. And you know, those reports get 413 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,240 submitted to the SEC right and so we feel it, 414 00:26:43,799 --> 00:26:47,599 you know, in our everyday work at KBLA. And I 415 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,799 just want to remind folks, I mean that's the kind 416 00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:54,880 of pressure you know, that journalists are under, particularly black journalists. 417 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,160 We saw what happened to black journalists like Don Lemon 418 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,200 and Georgia Ford, who, by the way, prought a case 419 00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:07,200 and they are still having to go through the process 420 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,720 of clearing their name. Right. That's not cheap, right, And 421 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:14,599 so I personally, as a member of NABJA, I'd like 422 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,920 to see NABJA stand up a legal defense fund right 423 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,000 for independent journalists who may not have the resources that 424 00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:24,359 Don Lemon has or the resources that Georgia Ford and 425 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,920 others may have been able to put together. Uh. And 426 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,160 you know that's that is quite possible under the leadership 427 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,200 of Aaron Haynes. I know this is something that she 428 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,839 is looking into, something that we have talked about offline, 429 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,640 you know, but I'm worried Dominique about the potential retaliation 430 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,799 as a result of these thumbs down. And we've got 431 00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:51,039 to be making sure that we keep our eye on 432 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,519 the job security of black journalists across the country, particularly 433 00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:59,400 in small markets across the country. You know, we cannot 434 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,559 allow uh, you know, these these major media companies that 435 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,039 are sitting on a lot of money right to to 436 00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:13,440 scuttle the potential and the hopes and dreams uh of 437 00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:17,359 black journalists, the commitment that black journalists have to the 438 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,640 tradition of the black press. And so I think NABJSON 439 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,319 a very strong message saying, you know that they're on notice, 440 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,599 each and every one of them. 441 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, But I think that's a really good observation, 442 00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,599 doctor Corte, because right now, you know, we see this 443 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,319 media consolidation, and we see the broligarchs, these billionaire tech 444 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,880 guys that are all supporting the Trump presidency at this point, 445 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,279 and the MAGA agenda buying up everything TikTok, and you know, 446 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,519 this massive consolidation with the Warner Brothers deal, and you 447 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:56,440 know which is followed in an already massive consolidation with 448 00:28:56,519 --> 00:29:00,519 the Paramount deal. And so you know, even with the NBC, 449 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,480 these ABC stations, their licenses are not up for review. 450 00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:09,039 Brendan Carr just decided to call for an early review 451 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,519 because he says that they're they're interviewing too many Democrats 452 00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:18,559 and there's not equal time. Which is interesting because he 453 00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:21,440 doesn't have the same critique of the Fox News stations 454 00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:24,400 or o N or any of these other stations that 455 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:30,680 have almost no Democrats, almost no opposite perspectives. And I've 456 00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:37,079 been a community affairs public affairs community action person at 457 00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:40,640 a radio station, a big one and actually more than one. 458 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,519 And I know what you have to file. It's a lot, right, 459 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,720 You've got to prove that you're worthwhile in the community, 460 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:51,119 that you're being fair and all this stuff. But most 461 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,839 most stations don't even follow that anymore. As far as 462 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,519 equal time. I mean, we are really scrupulous about it 463 00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:59,720 here at KBLA, but most stations don't even follow it. 464 00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:02,359 So the idea that he would shut stations down or 465 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,480 takeaway licenses and then hand them over to these billionaires 466 00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:09,759 for even more consolidation is a real concern. 467 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: It is absolutely a real concern. And this is why 468 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,920 you know, we encourage people to you know, download the 469 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,839 KBLA asping bread the words right and support independent media 470 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,759 because otherwise, you know, there will come a time where 471 00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:35,519 the brologarchs as you call them, are going to own 472 00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:40,119 an even more substantial share of the media platforms that 473 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,480 we're on. And when they decided to change the rules, 474 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,039 when they decided to change the algorithm, for example, where 475 00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:51,200 content that may be of political nature, content that may 476 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,920 be unapologetically black, that kind of content may be more suppressed, 477 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,519 and other content. We've got to be prepared for that 478 00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:01,480 we shouldn't just be reactionary when it happened. We need 479 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,440 to be preparing for that right now. And so, you know, 480 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,039 the work that we're doing here at KBLA, the work 481 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:10,880 that Joy Read and Don Lemon and so many others 482 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,039 are doing on YouTube. You know, I think there's an 483 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:17,640 independent media revolution that is afoot, and it's on all 484 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,880 of us to tap in and more importantly, to support 485 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:25,039 and to lift up and to cite, you know, the 486 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,119 sort of you know journalism that is taking place in 487 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,119 the tradition of the black press. 488 00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: All Right, it's not too late to call us eight 489 00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:36,839 hundred and nine to oh, fifteen eighty, eight hundred and 490 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,359 nine too oh fifteen eighty. We do have a lot 491 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,240 to talk about. You belong here. I'm Dominique Duprima and 492 00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:47,839 I am joined this hour by KBLA Talk fifteen eighty 493 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,359 chief National Affairs Analyst, doctor nik Corlai Corte. He is 494 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,720 on this radio station Monday through Thursday from four to 495 00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:57,519 six pm, and then occasionally when I can coax him 496 00:31:57,559 --> 00:31:59,559 on the air with me, he has to do a 497 00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:01,880 little bit double duty. Got a bunch of folks that 498 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,319 would like to speak with you. I want to go 499 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,680 to those phones. But I also want to quickly address 500 00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:10,720 something we have not talked about, which you pointed out 501 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:14,119 to me, which is Oprah kind of pushing back a 502 00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:20,960 little bit on her her legacy, if you will, of 503 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:28,359 doctor Oz and doctor Phil, two prominent TV doctors who 504 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,480 started out in the Oprah sort of Oprah's sphere, who 505 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:38,680 are both very much right wing. I wanted to say weirdos, 506 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,240 but that doesn't sound professional, like I don't know. Basically, 507 00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:49,480 she's taking heat for their positions, and she's kind of saying. 508 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:54,279 Speaker 2: What Well, she's saying, you know, that everybody has their 509 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,200 own path in life and that it has not one 510 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,359 thing to do with me. That's what she's says. In 511 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,240 an interview with Emmy magazine. She says that she doesn't 512 00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:06,559 have one thing to do with them, right, and so, 513 00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:11,400 you know, this is probably the harshest language that we've heard, 514 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,079 most direct language. I should say that we've heard from 515 00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:18,000 Oprah Winfrey about doctor Oz and doctor Phil, you know, 516 00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:21,279 who have been in Trump's orbit for some time. I 517 00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:25,880 remember doctor Oz had run for Senates uh in New Jersey, 518 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,960 I believe, and lost that race, and he ran as 519 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,160 a Republican and so you know, look, the reality is 520 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,960 is that you know, we may work with people over 521 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,640 the years. There are folks that I went to high 522 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,319 school with that are maga and we and there are 523 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,359 are friends I have, I have friends, I have friends 524 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:51,839 that went to more House that you know are are maga. Right, 525 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,039 And and so you know, just because you know somebody 526 00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:59,960 may have had an affiliation a collaboration once time a time, 527 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:05,000 you're not responsible for someone's choices the rest of their life. 528 00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I get that, But also, like, if you 529 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,119 have a pattern of elevating people that turn out to 530 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:15,199 be maga, do you think that you have to do 531 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,239 some reflection about why that is? 532 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 2: Well, I is not maga, you know is not maga. Well, 533 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,800 you know, are a lot of people in Oprah's. 534 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,039 Speaker 1: Or I'm just saying, yeah, okay, and I get that, 535 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,920 you know, I have a family member that is maga. 536 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,800 But I'm just saying to act like you have nothing 537 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,920 to do with it. I don't know, doctor Corte, I 538 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,039 don't know. Maybe I don't know how many folks have 539 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:57,519 you elevated in the media space that turn out to be. 540 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you know, I don't have a great track 541 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,000 record on that front, and I'm not mad about it. 542 00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I've helped a lot of people over 543 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,079 the years. I call it the unofficial Dominique de Prima 544 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,280 school of broadcasting, and so far not one of them. 545 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,400 But I mean, I'm not saying it couldn't happen. It 546 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,920 absolutely could. I don't know. Maybe you're right, we're going 547 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,199 to leave that people. I think if you're Oprah and 548 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,039 you have the influence that she has, which few people 549 00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:28,400 in modern history do, you know, and you're a spiritual 550 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,239 person like she is, that maybe some self reflection might 551 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,320 be in order. 552 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: I mean, but but but Dominique, let me just let 553 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,960 me just put this in a little extra context. For 554 00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:44,360 somebody who has a storied career in broadcasting has interviewed 555 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,079 over four thousand people over the years, myself included. Right, 556 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:53,639 we can focus on the handful of folks that are 557 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,800 in very prominent positions in our government and that have 558 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,159 gone full maga, you know, or we can look at 559 00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:02,960 the breath of the people that she has elevated in 560 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,639 one form or another over the years. Right, And so 561 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,920 I think that's part of what she's saying is that, 562 00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:11,679 you know, she can't be responsible for the path that 563 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,000 everyone takes. 564 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I get it. I get it. I don't. 565 00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:19,360 I'm just not sure if a total lack of responsibility 566 00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:24,960 is you know, is fair. But okay, I love that 567 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,159 she's pushing back and making her position clear. You know. Yeah, 568 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,079 let's let's go to Shon calling us from Long Beach. 569 00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:32,840 Good morning, Sean. 570 00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,079 Speaker 3: All right, good morning to you and your guests. 571 00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: How are you blessed? How you doing? 572 00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:40,639 Speaker 2: I'm doing. 573 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 3: I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Well, let's just just 574 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,239 get to just get to it. We got these midterms 575 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,440 coming up, got the twenty eight presidential election coming up. 576 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,320 You got a lot of Democrats who itching to get 577 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,880 back in power. They want to take over the government, 578 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,239 get it back from the mac Republican Trump treating the 579 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:08,360 Trump Traders scumbags that's in office now. My question is 580 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,199 what is the Democratic national platform when it comes to 581 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:22,119 things that are specifically specifically for black people. Not the 582 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,280 Rising Tide Raises all boats theory, because that's that's tired 583 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,440 and warning played out. I don't see any type of 584 00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:33,719 national agenda that's on the Democratic platform. But any of 585 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,639 these candidates that said, hey, mister black people, miss black people, 586 00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:40,159 you come in, vote for me and put me in office. 587 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,719 This is what I will do for y'all. 588 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,079 Speaker 1: And we're not talking about a platinum plan doctor knee 589 00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:49,039 court lay like Quarte, do you have thoughts on them? 590 00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:51,679 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think this is a question that 591 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,280 comes up every election cycle, is what is the black agenda? 592 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,960 And who's going to be the greatest champion for the 593 00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:00,880 black agenda? I can tell you traveling across the country, 594 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:07,039 you know, black people too are concerned about affordability. Black 595 00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:12,800 people too are concerned about getting capital to grow their businesses, 596 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,280 to start their businesses, to scale their businesses. You might 597 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:21,360 remember CDFI's Community Development Financial Institutions have taken a huge 598 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,440 hit under the Trump administration. This is this has been 599 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,719 a major source of funding, you know, for black businesses. 600 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,519 So I think to your point, the people need to 601 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:36,000 hear Okay, we know this has happened. So Democrats, what 602 00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:39,760 you're gonna do about it? And between now and November 603 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,079 that is the task of not just the Democrats, but 604 00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:48,480 folks who are running in opposition to the MAGA Republicans. 605 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,480 And so you know, if you check out what the 606 00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:53,760 Working Families Party is fighting for, you look at their agenda. 607 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,679 You look at the agenda of DSA, you look at 608 00:38:57,079 --> 00:39:02,559 the agenda Democrats who are running right, You know there's 609 00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:05,119 some there there. But to the point of the caller, 610 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,119 there's a lot more work between now and election day 611 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,320 to make it plain. 612 00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:13,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and also I think it's also on 613 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,800 us to put out there what we want and put pressure. 614 00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:21,239 The hour is almost upon us, though, scheon. Thank you 615 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,159 for your call. Dr Corte. Remind people how to follow 616 00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:26,840 you by your book here your show. 617 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,599 Speaker 2: All the Things well Well. Please tap in weekdays Monday 618 00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:35,320 through Thursday from four to six pm Pacific to our 619 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,480 afternoon drivetime show A More Perfect Union. 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