Speaker 1: It's nice time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy.
Speaker 1: Boston News Radio.
Speaker 2: Want to thank you here. You're Governor Christian u who
Speaker 2: for joining us tonight. He is he's such a he's
Speaker 2: such a good guy. I mean, he's he's quick, he's
Speaker 2: he's a normal human being. I mean he just he's
Speaker 2: got a sense of humor, self deprecating. He's exactly what
Speaker 2: any political leader in the country should embody. I think
Speaker 2: he's going to go in the private sector, make a
Speaker 2: lot of money. Uh, but I think he'll be back.
Speaker 2: I do think there's just too much talent there in
Speaker 2: terms of leadership that he will not at some other
Speaker 2: point stand for office. He will make a lot of
Speaker 2: money and he'll make it. Honestly, he's done a great
Speaker 2: job as governor of New Hampshire. We got a couple
Speaker 2: of calls hanging over which I'm more than happy to accommodate.
Speaker 2: I wish we could have gotten everybody in, but we
Speaker 2: had an hour and uh, let's continue on here. Let
Speaker 2: me go next to Gary and Wooburn. Gary, I know
Speaker 2: you called in late, apologize. I wish we could to
Speaker 2: get you in, but you're run right now.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Gary, Well getting to the point because you
Speaker 3: said no speeches, all questions. I would have asked what's
Speaker 3: next on the agenda, and you already answered the question.
Speaker 3: So you're going into the private sector. The next question
Speaker 3: is this, after the private sector, you have aspirations to
Speaker 3: be governor again or president.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think once you do governor Gary, I think
Speaker 2: it's and he's done it for eight years. He was
Speaker 2: elected and then re elected three times, and would have
Speaker 2: been re elected for a fourth time. I think once
Speaker 2: you've done that, it's tough to go back. He will,
Speaker 2: I'm sure, spend some time in the private sector. He'll
Speaker 2: do very well for himself. He's a very smart guy,
Speaker 2: mit educated, an engineer, and he's been successful in business before.
Speaker 2: I would suspect that you could see him at some
Speaker 2: point mount the campaign for president, you know. But again
Speaker 2: it depends upon depends upon circumstances over which no politician
Speaker 2: has control. And we'll see. I mean, if Donald Trump
Speaker 2: has a good four years and JD. Vance has been
Speaker 2: a good vice president, he'll be the favorite to win
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight. It'll be interesting to see who
Speaker 2: the Democrats come up with. So at this point, most
Speaker 2: Republicans would stand down in twenty eight and let Vance
Speaker 2: be the standard bear unless he has a horrific time
Speaker 2: as vice president. So but Chris Sooner, who was young,
Speaker 2: He's fifty years of age, you know, four years from now,
Speaker 2: eight years from now, twelve years from now, he will
Speaker 2: only be sixty two. Looks like a callow youth compared
Speaker 2: to the last two presidents here Joe Biden and soon
Speaker 2: Ronald Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: So question is this opportunities question is this Trump can
Speaker 3: only do four more yours and that's it president's sake.
Speaker 3: That's great because you can only do a total of
Speaker 3: eight total.
Speaker 2: Total of two terms.
Speaker 3: That's correct, right, Okay, vera, Now, just in case he's
Speaker 3: successful and self, well JD. Vance is looking good. Did
Speaker 3: you discuss what Christino or yourself does Nicky Haley still
Speaker 3: part of the future of being a president.
Speaker 2: Well, she's kind of a little bit cut off at
Speaker 2: the pass here. If if if President Trump has a
Speaker 2: successful four years, then JD. Vance would inherit that mantle.
Speaker 2: You know, almost from a from a practical point of view,
Speaker 2: it's very difficult for a Republican to challenge his sitting
Speaker 2: vice president. If if let us say, Vance ran and
Speaker 2: he lost and a Democrat was in then that might
Speaker 2: be the opportunity for it, Nicky Haley. But sometimes what
Speaker 2: happens is the metaphor that chooses that the window closes.
Speaker 2: I remember when Ted Kennedy first ran for a president.
Speaker 2: I think he first really thought about running for president
Speaker 2: in seventy two and didn't, and then of course he
Speaker 2: he ran in nineteen eighty. When he ran in nineteen eighty,
Speaker 2: he was born in nineteen thirty two. He was only
Speaker 2: forty eight years of age, so he was a young man.
Speaker 2: And of course he lost the nomination to Carter. But
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, gee, he could come back in
Speaker 2: eighty four, eighty eight, ninety two. I mean, he would
Speaker 2: have been able to run for the next twenty years.
Speaker 2: And Biden and Donald Trump and president like Trump have
Speaker 2: extended that window. And depending upon how Donald Trump does,
Speaker 2: if he does well, it will help jd vance. It
Speaker 2: will also help other older politicians who will say, hey,
Speaker 2: being president in your late seventies, Joe Biden didn't do
Speaker 2: a great job as president in his late seventies. He
Speaker 2: seemed to lose a step. If Donald Trump doesn't that
Speaker 2: it might change the age dynamics dramatically, we may have
Speaker 2: a lot more people running for office, in for the
Speaker 2: office at the White House in their seventies.
Speaker 3: Question is Bernie Sanders he talked about socialism like crazy
Speaker 3: during the last ten years or when running for president.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means exactly. I don't
Speaker 3: want even care. My question is this, has he become
Speaker 3: a joke where socialism doesn't work? Or what's your opinion?
Speaker 3: Is Bernie Sanders a joke after all his mumbo jumbo.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think that there's an element
Speaker 2: in the Democratic Party. He's sort of now an elder
Speaker 2: statesman within the Democratic Party. I think he's respected, and
Speaker 2: I think that he's thoughtful, and I think that there's
Speaker 2: a lot of even Republicans who who who respect Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 2: I think Bernie Sanders is respected by the Republicans a
Speaker 2: lot more than Elizabeth Warren is respected by the Republicans
Speaker 2: in my In my opinion, that's the people talk.
Speaker 3: Christ should have his own radio show too.
Speaker 4: He's good, He's very good.
Speaker 2: He would be very He'll be dope, be surprised if
Speaker 2: he has not only a role in the private sector
Speaker 2: making some money, but also working in the media trust
Speaker 2: me on that. Thanks, Thanks Gar Talk, So you bet
Speaker 2: you let me go to John. We'll get John in
Speaker 2: here as well. John and Boston. John, you're next up.
Speaker 2: Your reaction to Christen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good evening, Dan. Yeah, it was prompted call by
Speaker 4: Governor Sanoulhu talking about the bottle bill. But first of all,
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you if I could suggest some
Speaker 4: guests on your show. The new president of Mexico speaks
Speaker 4: English very well, and the president of Canada also speaks English.
Speaker 4: I wonder if you could have them on your show sometime. Yeah,
Speaker 4: what's that?
Speaker 2: No, I said, I would be more than happy to
Speaker 2: have our producer.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 2: When you deal with foreign leaders, they tend they tend
Speaker 2: not to understand American talk shows as we do. But
Speaker 2: I'd love to have the president of Mexico.
Speaker 4: Or well, she speaks English very well. I want I
Speaker 4: understand and understands English. Ye, And I wonder if you
Speaker 4: could have the big shots at the jennal is Mary Barra.
Speaker 4: She's the big show of General Motors. Now in the
Speaker 4: big Shot of Ford, Jim Fowley and another candidate that's
Speaker 4: almost forgotten, Malcolm Brickland. And you hear who's Malcolm Brooklyn. Well,
Speaker 4: if you driver Sup Arrow, he's the one that brought
Speaker 4: sub rout to America.
Speaker 3: He's in his eighties and he still had some ideas
Speaker 3: up the sleeve. But the original reason why I called
Speaker 3: was because I couldn't live in New Hampshire. It's nice
Speaker 3: place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there
Speaker 3: because for a lot of us that are low income,
Speaker 3: fixed income, you know, you have to have a car,
Speaker 3: and a lot of us don't have cars. And I
Speaker 3: accounted the MBTA daily. I'm on the train and buses
Speaker 3: constantly daily.
Speaker 4: And what got me to call was the bottle bill
Speaker 4: in Massachusetts. For a lot of us, that helps us
Speaker 4: put a few dollars in our pocket picking cans and
Speaker 4: bottles up and bringing them to the redemption center. Now,
Speaker 4: he said, there are places that make money, yes, scrap yards,
Speaker 4: and you have to have a car to get there.
Speaker 4: And you know, if you go to one stop after
Speaker 4: Logan Airport, the Airport station, there's a border redemption center,
Speaker 4: you'll see grandma's pushing shopping cuts in there to supplement
Speaker 4: their income. You know, grandma is supposed to be making cookies,
Speaker 4: but they're bringing big bags of cans in there to help.
Speaker 4: They don't have that New Hampshire. You know, it should
Speaker 4: be like the image of the can, but it should
Speaker 4: be ten cents the bottle and can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the image of people, you know, walking around. You know.
Speaker 2: I think the concept of the bottle bill in Massachusetts
Speaker 2: when it passed, and I was a big proponent of,
Speaker 2: and I still am a big proponent of. I returned
Speaker 2: my bottles and cans. You put a deposit down, and
Speaker 2: that did in sent you to bring them back. There
Speaker 2: was a period of time back in the nineteen seventies
Speaker 2: and eighties where you'd see bottles and cans strewn on
Speaker 2: the side of the road in Massachusetts and it really
Speaker 2: it was horrible. So the bottle bill is no money Chusetts.
Speaker 4: It gives people a reason to pick them up because
Speaker 4: there's no money. I mean some of us that are
Speaker 4: on six incomes and low income and we go there
Speaker 4: and try to put a few dollars more in our
Speaker 4: pocket by turning them in. And I'll tell you one thing,
Speaker 4: I give a lot of credits to the Vietnamese. They're
Speaker 4: the only ones that do that battle return business. All
Speaker 4: over Boston. There's no American owned people that do that.
Speaker 4: It was in the beginning, but that's too much work
Speaker 4: for Americans, six days a week, you know, shoving cases
Speaker 4: and bottles and bags, all loading trucks up. I used
Speaker 4: to be the only ones to do me.
Speaker 2: I talk, John. I did stories on a guy out
Speaker 2: in Holliston who used to make a living. His name
Speaker 2: was Bob Hall. I don't know if he's still alive.
Speaker 2: This was many years ago. I would see him walking
Speaker 2: uh with a bag over his shoulder with hundreds of cans,
Speaker 2: and I casely would give him a ride out there.
Speaker 2: I was living out in that neck of the woods
Speaker 2: a long time ago. So there are people who do that, John,
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call, thank you very much.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll tell you they should do better. For
Speaker 4: buses in New Hampshire, they have a terrible transit system
Speaker 4: unless you live in Manchester. And I just wanted to say,
Speaker 4: I was out in Washington State last July, a fatuous
Speaker 4: bus system. I didn't have the car to rent. I
Speaker 4: just went all over with the buses and New Hampshire
Speaker 4: I'll give them a D minus. You hear that Governess
Speaker 4: will give you a D minus for buses and the
Speaker 4: bottle return bill. That's what I'm gonna give you for that.
Speaker 4: I don't just like them personally. They'll give you D
Speaker 4: minus for that job.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that people in New Hampshire should have
Speaker 2: a different attitude.
Speaker 4: Well, they go to Maine. A lot of them drive
Speaker 4: to Maine. They bring their bottles and cans that have
Speaker 4: the nickel on them up to Maine has.
Speaker 2: A New Hampshire is very much a rural state. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's different than Massachusetts. They have a few big cities
Speaker 2: up there at Portsmouth and Manchester and Conquered, but it's
Speaker 2: primarily you have to live in the state.
Speaker 4: You have to live in the city, you have to
Speaker 4: have a car.
Speaker 2: You know, I get it, I get it. But there
Speaker 2: are a lot of the governor.
Speaker 4: Governor sannu, why don't you do something about the trant
Speaker 4: system up there have buses going all over the place.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I wish I wish dress was sure
Speaker 2: he would have had a better answer.
Speaker 4: I wouldell him. That'll give you. I don't dislike him.
Speaker 2: First ill, I'm sure he's good. I don't know if
Speaker 2: he's gonna lose a lot of sleep over it, but but.
Speaker 4: You know, he's well paid. I'm sure he's not hurting
Speaker 4: for money. I mean, I'm sure he's got plenty of money.
Speaker 2: And he's a graduate. M I T he's an engineer.
Speaker 2: He's was a fabulous governor.
Speaker 4: For the state of What type of engineer?
Speaker 2: Is he a civil engineer? And I suspect that he
Speaker 2: will make much more money in the private sector than
Speaker 2: he ever did as the governor of New Hampshire.
Speaker 4: But anyway, thanks for sure, he was well paid, but
Speaker 4: he's not counting on people that don't have money like
Speaker 4: he has.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well again, John, you know.
Speaker 3: In the city where we have.
Speaker 2: The you know what, I've really hurt enough for tonight.
Speaker 2: I just think the negativity is a little overwhelming. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm empathetic. I get it. We have a lot of
Speaker 2: support here in Massachusetts, and that's great. That's that's what
Speaker 2: Massachusetts all about. New Hampshire is a little bit of
Speaker 2: a different state. People have a choice. You've chosen to
Speaker 2: live in Massachusetts, and I'm happy for you. I'm glad
Speaker 2: you have that option. Thanks, John, appreciate your call here. Wow, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: John can straighten out Governor So in New Hampshire in
Speaker 2: a New York second, there was We're gonna take a break.
Speaker 2: It was a really interesting indictment issued yesterday by the
Speaker 2: US Attorney's office, and I would love to talk about it,
Speaker 2: and I don't know. We tried to reach out to
Speaker 2: the US Attorney today and did not hear back from
Speaker 2: his public relations people. This was a stunning indictment. A
Speaker 2: resident of I'll get to, a resident of Naha, of Natick,
Speaker 2: as well as a resident of Tehran. Apparently, well, I
Speaker 2: shouldn't say. Apparently, we're both indicted for violation of US
Speaker 2: export control and sanctioned laws, and their activities allegedly resulted
Speaker 2: in the deaths of three US service members who were
Speaker 2: killed yes last year at a military base I believe,
Speaker 2: right on the border of Jordan and Syria. We'll get
Speaker 2: to that. And it just shows that it's a dangerous
Speaker 2: world out there and we have to tighten up the borders,
Speaker 2: and we also have to know what people are doing here.
Speaker 2: Because this is an interesting story. You probably haven't heard
Speaker 2: much about it. We might not get much reaction to it,
Speaker 2: and if we don't, we'll move on. But we'll talk
Speaker 2: about it when we get back on the other side
Speaker 2: of the break.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray line from the Window World
Speaker 1: Lakeside Studios on WBZ the news radio.
Speaker 2: So if you read the Herald this morning, and you
Speaker 2: read the Boston Globe, you read reports on this indictment
Speaker 2: that came down yesterday, and I just would like to
Speaker 2: talk about it because it's really great work. And I'm
Speaker 2: only going to spend a couple of minutes on it
Speaker 2: here and if you want to weigh in. Oftentimes we
Speaker 2: criticize the Justice Department because they didn't do a good
Speaker 2: job here, didn't do a good job here, but this
Speaker 2: is one that to me is extraordinary. The founder of
Speaker 2: an Iranian company from Massachusetts. He's a dual US Iranian
Speaker 2: national from Natick. Means he came here and was naturalized
Speaker 2: as a US citizen. Madi Mohammad Sadeghi, he's forty two
Speaker 2: years old. And another guy whose name is too long
Speaker 2: to pronounce, Mohammad Aberdeen. They were and he's from Iran.
Speaker 2: He gets arrested in Italy yesterday, which was great, so
Speaker 2: if he can get brought back here. Abadini is charged
Speaker 2: with providing material support to a foreign terrorist terrorist organization
Speaker 2: that resulted in the deaths of three US service members.
Speaker 2: I remember this story from last January. There were these
Speaker 2: three service members. They were from Georgia. Sergeant William Jerome
Speaker 2: Rivers of Carrollton, Georgia, Sergeant Brionna Moffata, Savannah, and Sergeant
Speaker 2: Kennedy Sanders of Waycross, Georgia killed in the January twenty
Speaker 2: eighth drone attack on the US outpost in northeastern Jordan.
Speaker 2: I believe it was very close to the Syrian border
Speaker 2: called Tower twenty two. And essentially this guy from Natick
Speaker 2: conspired with this guy from Tehran to circumvent laws in
Speaker 2: this country that we have that prevents technology from being
Speaker 2: funneled out of the US to bad actors overseas. The prosecutors,
Speaker 2: according to the Herald article, the alleged that Aberdini, who
Speaker 2: also uses this Aberdini he operates an Iranian company that
Speaker 2: manufactures navigation systems for drones, is connected to Iran's paramilitary
Speaker 2: Revolutionary Guard. The prosecutors alleged he conspired with the Natick
Speaker 2: guy Sardegi to circumvent American export control laws, including through
Speaker 2: a front company in Switzerland, and procures sensitive technology into
Speaker 2: a we content technology into Iran. But apparently they're alleging
Speaker 2: that this guy from Natick sent this technology to a
Speaker 2: front company in Switzerland, which I guess is legal, but
Speaker 2: the ultimate purpose was to get it to Tehran, which
Speaker 2: they did. Both men are charged with export control violations,
Speaker 2: and Aberdeen separately faces charges of conspiring to provide material
Speaker 2: support for Iran. The lawyer for says Sadiki, a naturalized
Speaker 2: US citizen, was arrested Monday in Massachusetts, didn't return calls
Speaker 2: for comments. First of all, hats off to the US
Speaker 2: Attorney's Office for pulling this together into the Department of Justice.
Speaker 2: But to think that we have American citizens naturalized American
Speaker 2: citizens here who were basically conspiring with Iranians who were
Speaker 2: working with the Revolutionary Guard that resulted in the deaths
Speaker 2: of three US Service personnel. Apparently, when this drone attacked,
Speaker 2: this one way attack drone, according to the Associated Press
Speaker 2: article on the Herald, may have been mistaken for US
Speaker 2: drone that was expected to return back to the logistics
Speaker 2: base about the same time, and it wasn't shot down.
Speaker 2: It crashed into the living quarters, killing the three soldiers
Speaker 2: and injuring more than forty. If you'd like to comment
Speaker 2: on this and why we need to be ever vigilant. Great.
Speaker 2: If not, I got another topic we can go to,
Speaker 2: by the way, on Thursday night, we'll be talking with
Speaker 2: Jeff Robbins and the mayor of Everett, Mayor Carlo Di Maria,
Speaker 2: who has just won a huge defamation lawsuit against the
Speaker 2: Evert Leader Herald newspaper which apparently just lost their mind
Speaker 2: and made all gations against the mayor. We've had him
Speaker 2: on before. He's a decent guy, but there was an
Speaker 2: editor over there I guess who was intent on getting
Speaker 2: him and this was a really good use of the courts.
Speaker 2: Jeff Robbins was the lawyer. They'll be with us on
Speaker 2: Thursday night, and in addition, we'll have the BZ car
Speaker 2: guys on Thursday night from ten to twelve, Scott and Larry.
Speaker 2: And then on Friday night we will have the twelfth
Speaker 2: annual Nightside Charity Combine from ten to twelve, and we've
Speaker 2: got some great guests for that. I promise you a
Speaker 2: lot of new charities, a couple of older ones that
Speaker 2: we've had before. So we're going to finish the broadcast
Speaker 2: years strong. We're going to finish the week strong. But
Speaker 2: in the meantime, if you want to talk about the
Speaker 2: guy comes here, becomes a naturalized US citizen, and somehow
Speaker 2: wants to work with an enemy of our country. I
Speaker 2: hope they hit him with the book, and I hope
Speaker 2: if they prove all the elements of the crime as alleged,
Speaker 2: this guy spends a long time in stir. Back on Nightside.
Speaker 2: You have the numbers if you want to jump on board.
Speaker 2: Not a subject that most people are willing to talk about,
Speaker 2: but I'd love to. You know, we criticize Justice Department
Speaker 2: a lot. This is when they did a great job
Speaker 2: in this and this is where there was coordination to
Speaker 2: between the Just Department DJ and the FBI. We'll take
Speaker 2: a break six one, seven, two, five four ten thirty
Speaker 2: and six one seven, nine three one ten thirty coming
Speaker 2: back on Nightside.