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<v Speaker 1>It's nice time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Boston News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to thank you here. You're Governor Christian u who

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us tonight. He is he's such a he's

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<v Speaker 2>such a good guy. I mean, he's he's quick, he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's a normal human being. I mean he just he's

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<v Speaker 2>got a sense of humor, self deprecating. He's exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>any political leader in the country should embody. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to go in the private sector, make a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money. Uh, but I think he'll be back.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think there's just too much talent there in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of leadership that he will not at some other

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<v Speaker 2>point stand for office. He will make a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>money and he'll make it. Honestly, he's done a great

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<v Speaker 2>job as governor of New Hampshire. We got a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of calls hanging over which I'm more than happy to accommodate.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish we could have gotten everybody in, but we

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<v Speaker 2>had an hour and uh, let's continue on here. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me go next to Gary and Wooburn. Gary, I know

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<v Speaker 2>you called in late, apologize. I wish we could to

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<v Speaker 2>get you in, but you're run right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Gary, Well getting to the point because you

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<v Speaker 3>said no speeches, all questions. I would have asked what's

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<v Speaker 3>next on the agenda, and you already answered the question.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're going into the private sector. The next question

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<v Speaker 3>is this, after the private sector, you have aspirations to

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<v Speaker 3>be governor again or president.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think once you do governor Gary, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's and he's done it for eight years. He was

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<v Speaker 2>elected and then re elected three times, and would have

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<v Speaker 2>been re elected for a fourth time. I think once

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<v Speaker 2>you've done that, it's tough to go back. He will,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, spend some time in the private sector. He'll

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<v Speaker 2>do very well for himself. He's a very smart guy,

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<v Speaker 2>mit educated, an engineer, and he's been successful in business before.

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<v Speaker 2>I would suspect that you could see him at some

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<v Speaker 2>point mount the campaign for president, you know. But again

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<v Speaker 2>it depends upon depends upon circumstances over which no politician

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<v Speaker 2>has control. And we'll see. I mean, if Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has a good four years and JD. Vance has been

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<v Speaker 2>a good vice president, he'll be the favorite to win

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty eight. It'll be interesting to see who

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats come up with. So at this point, most

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans would stand down in twenty eight and let Vance

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<v Speaker 2>be the standard bear unless he has a horrific time

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<v Speaker 2>as vice president. So but Chris Sooner, who was young,

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<v Speaker 2>He's fifty years of age, you know, four years from now,

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<v Speaker 2>eight years from now, twelve years from now, he will

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<v Speaker 2>only be sixty two. Looks like a callow youth compared

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<v Speaker 2>to the last two presidents here Joe Biden and soon

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<v Speaker 2>Ronald Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>So question is this opportunities question is this Trump can

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<v Speaker 3>only do four more yours and that's it president's sake.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great because you can only do a total of

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<v Speaker 3>eight total.

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<v Speaker 2>Total of two terms.

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<v Speaker 3>That's correct, right, Okay, vera, Now, just in case he's

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<v Speaker 3>successful and self, well JD. Vance is looking good. Did

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<v Speaker 3>you discuss what Christino or yourself does Nicky Haley still

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<v Speaker 3>part of the future of being a president.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's kind of a little bit cut off at

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<v Speaker 2>the pass here. If if if President Trump has a

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<v Speaker 2>successful four years, then JD. Vance would inherit that mantle.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, almost from a from a practical point of view,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very difficult for a Republican to challenge his sitting

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<v Speaker 2>vice president. If if let us say, Vance ran and

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<v Speaker 2>he lost and a Democrat was in then that might

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<v Speaker 2>be the opportunity for it, Nicky Haley. But sometimes what

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<v Speaker 2>happens is the metaphor that chooses that the window closes.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when Ted Kennedy first ran for a president.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he first really thought about running for president

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<v Speaker 2>in seventy two and didn't, and then of course he

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<v Speaker 2>he ran in nineteen eighty. When he ran in nineteen eighty,

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<v Speaker 2>he was born in nineteen thirty two. He was only

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight years of age, so he was a young man.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course he lost the nomination to Carter. But

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<v Speaker 2>I thought to myself, gee, he could come back in

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four, eighty eight, ninety two. I mean, he would

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<v Speaker 2>have been able to run for the next twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>And Biden and Donald Trump and president like Trump have

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<v Speaker 2>extended that window. And depending upon how Donald Trump does,

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<v Speaker 2>if he does well, it will help jd vance. It

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<v Speaker 2>will also help other older politicians who will say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>being president in your late seventies, Joe Biden didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>a great job as president in his late seventies. He

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to lose a step. If Donald Trump doesn't that

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<v Speaker 2>it might change the age dynamics dramatically, we may have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more people running for office, in for the

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<v Speaker 2>office at the White House in their seventies.

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<v Speaker 3>Question is Bernie Sanders he talked about socialism like crazy

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<v Speaker 3>during the last ten years or when running for president.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what that means exactly. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want even care. My question is this, has he become

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<v Speaker 3>a joke where socialism doesn't work? Or what's your opinion?

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<v Speaker 3>Is Bernie Sanders a joke after all his mumbo jumbo.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I think that there's an element

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<v Speaker 2>in the Democratic Party. He's sort of now an elder

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<v Speaker 2>statesman within the Democratic Party. I think he's respected, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he's thoughtful, and I think that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of even Republicans who who who respect Bernie Sanders.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Bernie Sanders is respected by the Republicans a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more than Elizabeth Warren is respected by the Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>in my In my opinion, that's the people talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Christ should have his own radio show too.

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<v Speaker 4>He's good, He's very good.

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<v Speaker 2>He would be very He'll be dope, be surprised if

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<v Speaker 2>he has not only a role in the private sector

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<v Speaker 2>making some money, but also working in the media trust

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<v Speaker 2>me on that. Thanks, Thanks Gar Talk, So you bet

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<v Speaker 2>you let me go to John. We'll get John in

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<v Speaker 2>here as well. John and Boston. John, you're next up.

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<v Speaker 2>Your reaction to Christen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good evening, Dan. Yeah, it was prompted call by

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<v Speaker 4>Governor Sanoulhu talking about the bottle bill. But first of all,

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to ask you if I could suggest some

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<v Speaker 4>guests on your show. The new president of Mexico speaks

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<v Speaker 4>English very well, and the president of Canada also speaks English.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if you could have them on your show sometime. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>what's that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I said, I would be more than happy to

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<v Speaker 2>have our producer.

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<v Speaker 4>You.

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<v Speaker 2>When you deal with foreign leaders, they tend they tend

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<v Speaker 2>not to understand American talk shows as we do. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to have the president of Mexico.

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<v Speaker 4>Or well, she speaks English very well. I want I

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<v Speaker 4>understand and understands English. Ye, And I wonder if you

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<v Speaker 4>could have the big shots at the jennal is Mary Barra.

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<v Speaker 4>She's the big show of General Motors. Now in the

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<v Speaker 4>big Shot of Ford, Jim Fowley and another candidate that's

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<v Speaker 4>almost forgotten, Malcolm Brickland. And you hear who's Malcolm Brooklyn. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>if you driver Sup Arrow, he's the one that brought

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<v Speaker 4>sub rout to America.

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<v Speaker 3>He's in his eighties and he still had some ideas

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<v Speaker 3>up the sleeve. But the original reason why I called

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<v Speaker 3>was because I couldn't live in New Hampshire. It's nice

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<v Speaker 3>place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there

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<v Speaker 3>because for a lot of us that are low income,

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<v Speaker 3>fixed income, you know, you have to have a car,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of us don't have cars. And I

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<v Speaker 3>accounted the MBTA daily. I'm on the train and buses

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<v Speaker 3>constantly daily.

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<v Speaker 4>And what got me to call was the bottle bill

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<v Speaker 4>in Massachusetts. For a lot of us, that helps us

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<v Speaker 4>put a few dollars in our pocket picking cans and

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<v Speaker 4>bottles up and bringing them to the redemption center. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>he said, there are places that make money, yes, scrap yards,

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<v Speaker 4>and you have to have a car to get there.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, if you go to one stop after

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<v Speaker 4>Logan Airport, the Airport station, there's a border redemption center,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll see grandma's pushing shopping cuts in there to supplement

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<v Speaker 4>their income. You know, grandma is supposed to be making cookies,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're bringing big bags of cans in there to help.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't have that New Hampshire. You know, it should

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<v Speaker 4>be like the image of the can, but it should

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<v Speaker 4>be ten cents the bottle and can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the image of people, you know, walking around. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the concept of the bottle bill in Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>when it passed, and I was a big proponent of,

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<v Speaker 2>and I still am a big proponent of. I returned

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<v Speaker 2>my bottles and cans. You put a deposit down, and

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<v Speaker 2>that did in sent you to bring them back. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a period of time back in the nineteen seventies

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<v Speaker 2>and eighties where you'd see bottles and cans strewn on

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<v Speaker 2>the side of the road in Massachusetts and it really

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<v Speaker 2>it was horrible. So the bottle bill is no money Chusetts.

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<v Speaker 4>It gives people a reason to pick them up because

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<v Speaker 4>there's no money. I mean some of us that are

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<v Speaker 4>on six incomes and low income and we go there

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<v Speaker 4>and try to put a few dollars more in our

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<v Speaker 4>pocket by turning them in. And I'll tell you one thing,

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<v Speaker 4>I give a lot of credits to the Vietnamese. They're

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<v Speaker 4>the only ones that do that battle return business. All

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<v Speaker 4>over Boston. There's no American owned people that do that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was in the beginning, but that's too much work

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<v Speaker 4>for Americans, six days a week, you know, shoving cases

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<v Speaker 4>and bottles and bags, all loading trucks up. I used

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<v Speaker 4>to be the only ones to do me.

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<v Speaker 2>I talk, John. I did stories on a guy out

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<v Speaker 2>in Holliston who used to make a living. His name

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<v Speaker 2>was Bob Hall. I don't know if he's still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>This was many years ago. I would see him walking

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<v Speaker 2>uh with a bag over his shoulder with hundreds of cans,

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<v Speaker 2>and I casely would give him a ride out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was living out in that neck of the woods

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<v Speaker 2>a long time ago. So there are people who do that, John,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate the call, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'll tell you they should do better. For

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<v Speaker 4>buses in New Hampshire, they have a terrible transit system

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<v Speaker 4>unless you live in Manchester. And I just wanted to say,

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<v Speaker 4>I was out in Washington State last July, a fatuous

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<v Speaker 4>bus system. I didn't have the car to rent. I

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<v Speaker 4>just went all over with the buses and New Hampshire

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give them a D minus. You hear that Governess

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<v Speaker 4>will give you a D minus for buses and the

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<v Speaker 4>bottle return bill. That's what I'm gonna give you for that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't just like them personally. They'll give you D

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<v Speaker 4>minus for that job.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that people in New Hampshire should have

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<v Speaker 2>a different attitude.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they go to Maine. A lot of them drive

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<v Speaker 4>to Maine. They bring their bottles and cans that have

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<v Speaker 4>the nickel on them up to Maine has.

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<v Speaker 2>A New Hampshire is very much a rural state. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's different than Massachusetts. They have a few big cities

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<v Speaker 2>up there at Portsmouth and Manchester and Conquered, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>primarily you have to live in the state.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to live in the city, you have to

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<v Speaker 4>have a car.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I get it, I get it. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of the governor.

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<v Speaker 4>Governor sannu, why don't you do something about the trant

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<v Speaker 4>system up there have buses going all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, I wish I wish dress was sure

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<v Speaker 2>he would have had a better answer.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldell him. That'll give you. I don't dislike him.

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<v Speaker 2>First ill, I'm sure he's good. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna lose a lot of sleep over it, but but.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he's well paid. I'm sure he's not hurting

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<v Speaker 4>for money. I mean, I'm sure he's got plenty of money.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's a graduate. M I T he's an engineer.

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<v Speaker 2>He's was a fabulous governor.

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<v Speaker 4>For the state of What type of engineer?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he a civil engineer? And I suspect that he

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<v Speaker 2>will make much more money in the private sector than

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, thanks for sure, he was well paid, but

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well again, John, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>In the city where we have.

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<v Speaker 2>The you know what, I've really hurt enough for tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think the negativity is a little overwhelming. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm empathetic. I get it. We have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts all about. New Hampshire is a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a different state. People have a choice. You've chosen to

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<v Speaker 2>you have that option. Thanks, John, appreciate your call here. Wow, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>John can straighten out Governor So in New Hampshire in

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<v Speaker 2>It was a really interesting indictment issued yesterday by the

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<v Speaker 2>US Attorney's office, and I would love to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know. We tried to reach out to

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<v Speaker 2>his public relations people. This was a stunning indictment. A

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<v Speaker 2>resident of I'll get to, a resident of Naha, of Natick,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as a resident of Tehran. Apparently, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't say. Apparently, we're both indicted for violation of US

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<v Speaker 2>export control and sanctioned laws, and their activities allegedly resulted

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<v Speaker 2>killed yes last year at a military base I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>and we also have to know what people are doing here.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you read the Herald this morning, and you

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<v Speaker 2>read the Boston Globe, you read reports on this indictment

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<v Speaker 2>that came down yesterday, and I just would like to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it because it's really great work. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here and if you want to weigh in. Oftentimes we

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<v Speaker 2>criticize the Justice Department because they didn't do a good

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<v Speaker 2>job here, didn't do a good job here, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is one that to me is extraordinary. The founder of

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<v Speaker 2>an Iranian company from Massachusetts. He's a dual US Iranian

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<v Speaker 2>national from Natick. Means he came here and was naturalized

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<v Speaker 2>as a US citizen. Madi Mohammad Sadeghi, he's forty two

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<v Speaker 2>to pronounce, Mohammad Aberdeen. They were and he's from Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets arrested in Italy yesterday, which was great, so

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<v Speaker 2>if he can get brought back here. Abadini is charged

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<v Speaker 2>that resulted in the deaths of three US service members.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember this story from last January. There were these

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<v Speaker 2>three service members. They were from Georgia. Sergeant William Jerome

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<v Speaker 2>Rivers of Carrollton, Georgia, Sergeant Brionna Moffata, Savannah, and Sergeant

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy Sanders of Waycross, Georgia killed in the January twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eighth drone attack on the US outpost in northeastern Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was very close to the Syrian border

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<v Speaker 2>called Tower twenty two. And essentially this guy from Natick

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<v Speaker 2>conspired with this guy from Tehran to circumvent laws in

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<v Speaker 2>this country that we have that prevents technology from being

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<v Speaker 2>funneled out of the US to bad actors overseas. The prosecutors,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the Herald article, the alleged that Aberdini, who

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<v Speaker 2>also uses this Aberdini he operates an Iranian company that

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<v Speaker 2>manufactures navigation systems for drones, is connected to Iran's paramilitary

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<v Speaker 2>Revolutionary Guard. The prosecutors alleged he conspired with the Natick

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<v Speaker 2>guy Sardegi to circumvent American export control laws, including through

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<v Speaker 2>a front company in Switzerland, and procures sensitive technology into

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<v Speaker 2>a we content technology into Iran. But apparently they're alleging

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<v Speaker 2>that this guy from Natick sent this technology to a

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate purpose was to get it to Tehran, which

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<v Speaker 2>they did. Both men are charged with export control violations,

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<v Speaker 2>and Aberdeen separately faces charges of conspiring to provide material

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<v Speaker 2>support for Iran. The lawyer for says Sadiki, a naturalized

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<v Speaker 2>US citizen, was arrested Monday in Massachusetts, didn't return calls

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<v Speaker 2>for comments. First of all, hats off to the US

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney's Office for pulling this together into the Department of Justice.

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<v Speaker 2>But to think that we have American citizens naturalized American

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<v Speaker 2>of three US Service personnel. Apparently, when this drone attacked,

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<v Speaker 2>this one way attack drone, according to the Associated Press

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<v Speaker 2>article on the Herald, may have been mistaken for US

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<v Speaker 2>base about the same time, and it wasn't shot down.

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<v Speaker 2>It crashed into the living quarters, killing the three soldiers

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<v Speaker 2>and injuring more than forty. If you'd like to comment

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<v Speaker 2>on this and why we need to be ever vigilant. Great.

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<v Speaker 2>If not, I got another topic we can go to,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, on Thursday night, we'll be talking with

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<v Speaker 2>Evert Leader Herald newspaper which apparently just lost their mind

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Robbins was the lawyer. They'll be with us on

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday night, and in addition, we'll have the BZ car

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<v Speaker 2>guys on Thursday night from ten to twelve, Scott and Larry.

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<v Speaker 2>annual Nightside Charity Combine from ten to twelve, and we've

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<v Speaker 2>got some great guests for that. I promise you a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of new charities, a couple of older ones that

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<v Speaker 2>we've had before. So we're going to finish the broadcast

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<v Speaker 2>years strong. We're going to finish the week strong. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the meantime, if you want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>guy comes here, becomes a naturalized US citizen, and somehow

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<v Speaker 2>wants to work with an enemy of our country. I

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<v Speaker 2>if they prove all the elements of the crime as alleged,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy spends a long time in stir. Back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the numbers if you want to jump on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a subject that most people are willing to talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'd love to. You know, we criticize Justice Department

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<v Speaker 2>in this and this is where there was coordination to

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<v Speaker 2>between the Just Department DJ and the FBI. We'll take

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<v Speaker 2>a break six one, seven, two, five four ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>back on Nightside.