WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.199 --> 00:00:15.400 Welcome to the Marvel Alliance Podcast, recover anything at everything 2 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:17.399 to do with the Marvel Universe from the comics, TV 3 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:19.480 and movies. We go from verse six one six at 4 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:21.679 the Mojo verse of the TVA in order to bring 5 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:23.760 the Marvel use right to you. I'm the Man without 6 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:24.839 Fear Chris. 7 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:26.359 I'm the note with the mouth. 8 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:29.760 David, I'm your friendly neighborhood brute. 9 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:32.320 I'm the podcast or mischief tres Now. 10 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:40.399 And for the three hundredth time, Alliance assemble. 11 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:42.159 The four persons. 12 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:49.960 Just a smooth, buttery smooth as every single week, especially 13 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:51.640 when I love it when like I say, and then 14 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:56.960 like five seconds later, David chimes in, LA, you just. 15 00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:00.520 Need a sound. You need to just like a stream 16 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:01.840 deck sound or whatever you get. 17 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:07.959 Well, Welcome to the three hundredth episode of Marvel Line, 18 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.959 the little show that started during the middle of pandemic, 19 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:14.519 and here we are, three hundred episode. We made it. 20 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:16.200 We made it, gentlemen. 21 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.480 That's why we're always running out of evergreen topics to 22 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:21.879 give the show because me through in the first year, 23 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:23.280 I think. 24 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:24.959 Don't even talk to me about the strikes. 25 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:27.799 Yeah, yeah, it was rough too, strikes, but yeah. 26 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:29.359 It was pretty bad. It was pretty It started getting 27 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:31.519 pretty bad when Travis started pointing out, No, you've done 28 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:32.439 that topic before. 29 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:36.439 Yeah, yeah, I remember you pitched. I was like, that 30 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:39.000 sounds early familiar, and I looked in the spreaker. I 31 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:42.000 was like, oh, yeah, we we've been done that. Yeah. 32 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:44.719 So that's how many episodes have been done that we've 33 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:47.799 kind of gone around the band and uh, yeah, it's 34 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:49.439 crazy to be episode three hundred and this is the 35 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:51.640 first time. I feel like, this is the first time 36 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:54.200 US four podcasts and age because I feel like there's 37 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:56.879 the live streams, but that was either when Brent was 38 00:01:56.920 --> 00:01:58.959 gone or Brent was here, and then Dave wasn't here. 39 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.760 And now now somehow I see David more than you two. 40 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.560 I see it twice three times a month. How that 41 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.920 somehow it starts me and Chris hosting marl lliance, the 42 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:09.919 Brent coming on, and then that's me and David, and 43 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:11.840 now me and David have a wrestling show on the 44 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:13.719 side over there, and now we goout that going on. 45 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:16.120 But no, this is very cool. We could get everyone 46 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:18.639 together for this and then I celebrate the three hundred episodes. 47 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:21.800 So yeah, but as we talked about, you can make comments, 48 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:24.039 but we will not be responding because we've recorded this 49 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:26.240 a week ago, guys, and we're coming to you from 50 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:28.759 the past and the future. So but yeah, this is 51 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.199 the way we got everyone together for schedules aligning. So 52 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:34.680 this was well worth it to do an early recording 53 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:36.199 of this to make sure we made this happen, to 54 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:39.000 do something special for everyone for three hundred and to 55 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:44.240 thank you the listeners, the viewers, you know, for for 56 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:48.199 making this show. You know, like I said, the little 57 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:52.199 engine that could, and you know, giving us different avenues 58 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.120 for all of us in different ways. The shows, as 59 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:57.520 I say, before us changed my life changed, I know, 60 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:01.439 in different ways y'all's lives, but created the most important thing, 61 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:04.439 you know, a little heart more friendship exactly. 62 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.879 Yeah, you know, and you know I used to say 63 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:09.639 this all a ton to bug people on g A. 64 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:11.960 But also the you know, the flagship of GUA just 65 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:15.159 keeps the engine and keeps the engine run. 66 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:17.560 Keep you know. 67 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:19.680 It's a good it's a good competition because I remember 68 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:21.960 the early days DC was kicking our butt. They not 69 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:23.879 kicking our butt, but they definitely were. They had a 70 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:25.599 lot more news going on stuff. So it was great 71 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:28.080 when me and Chris took over and then uh, yeah, no, 72 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:30.319 it's it's a show I miss all the time. I 73 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:33.479 one day hope that the c's part and I can 74 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:35.840 be back in a regular bi weekly thing because it's 75 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:38.240 always fun time. It's great talking to these gentlemen because 76 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:39.719 they'll know what I'm talking about and I don't got 77 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:43.159 to explain it fifty times, like okay, now this is 78 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:45.520 and it's at least a com book run like okay, 79 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:47.120 explain this for me. It's like okay, here we go. 80 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:48.879 But uh, you know, I missed doing the show, but 81 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:50.479 it's been great. It was yeah, me and Chris like 82 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:51.919 and that was a good way for me and Chris 83 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:53.479 to get to know each other because we had to 84 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:56.439 figure out the show. And then that's how I met 85 00:03:56.439 --> 00:03:59.159 Brent and met you know, Scott and everything like that too. 86 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.639 But and then Brent, luckily, when I couldn't do it, 87 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:03.280 took over and you guys just ran with the show, 88 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:05.759 maybe even bigger. And then after that David took over. 89 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:08.080 Who's David's done a great job. Went from you know, 90 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:10.199 guesting to now hosting Model Alliance and like I say, 91 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:13.039 you're over there, geekers. So it's been a fun trajectory, 92 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.199 but a big shout out to the main man, Chris, 93 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:17.480 because it's like Law and Order, where if you look 94 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:20.360 at every five seasons, it's like one guy and then 95 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:22.879 there's a new actor. Chris is the one guy. He 96 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:25.439 is the glue that's always holding the You are. 97 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:27.959 Olivia Benson. 98 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:33.839 I mean there's divorced or you know what, like somebody 99 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:37.639 what's up, rookie? 100 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:41.000 You know, a lot worse comparisons to be compared to 101 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:45.879 mriska hardy I would say that. 102 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:48.000 But yeah, a shout out to a zoo, I think 103 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:49.600 from all of us, but for the listeners, just know 104 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:52.240 that Chris is uh. He's kept the ship going and 105 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:55.240 he's kept it steering, and you've done a great job. 106 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.519 Through thick and thin, through pandemic, through strikes, through job 107 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:01.680 change is life change. 108 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:05.000 The Sony Marvel verse, you know we made it. We 109 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:07.759 got to see the end of the Death of One Universe, 110 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:08.959 so you know we've made it. 111 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:11.079 I'll never forget you, buddy. 112 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.800 We just had a Sony Marvel entry. You know that 113 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:15.360 was good. 114 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:16.879 It's actually good. 115 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:18.680 Hopefully wasn't on the in the movie side. 116 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:20.319 Yeah, somewhere else, somewhere else. 117 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:24.560 Yeah, but but yeah, so, but before we get into 118 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:27.199 the main topic at hand, we've got to do the 119 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:30.160 lovely network plug. So, as you've heard, we are part 120 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.319 of the Gee Ultimate Alliance Network with six shows, and 121 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:35.639 the network itself has evolved and contracted and evolved and contracted. 122 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:39.279 Uh to see the full schedule below, check out the 123 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:41.759 show notes below, and subscribe to the Gee Ultimate Alliance 124 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:43.800 Network on Twitter at g Waypod Networks and you know 125 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:45.839 when all the shows drop. We also have a Patreon, 126 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:47.319 so if we want to throw a couple of shekels 127 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:49.040 our way, we've got two tiers, our dollar tiers, our 128 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:50.439 tip jar to say hey, you think we're doing a 129 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:52.720 good job. And then we've got our five dollar tier 130 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:55.959 with ad free episodes, early access episodes and patroonscoo some shows. 131 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:57.639 We got a couple of shows on the backlog form 132 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:00.000 marvel Lines. We can watch this all day, the Marvel 133 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.319 Lines Infinity Saga, Rewatch Tales from the House of X 134 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:06.279 where we watch our favorite favorite movies from the Fox 135 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:09.120 era of X Men, and the Baxter Broadcast, The Fantastic 136 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:12.639 for Retro film reviews and coming this June right now, 137 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:14.759 we are in June, right now, in a couple of weeks, 138 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:18.759 David and I will record our newest show, Cape Expectations, 139 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:22.360 The Avengers, Earth's Mightiest Hero and Rewatch and for me, 140 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:26.759 first watch every month will be Yeah, we will be good. 141 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:27.439 That's good. 142 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:29.839 I've watched a few episodes. But this is gonna be 143 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:32.680 kind of a bonding time with my kids because they 144 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:34.839 are at that age now that they can appreciate it. 145 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:36.600 So so yeah. 146 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:38.680 It never gets too dark that show, like even something 147 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:40.759 like the nineties looking Batman's like, okay, it's a little dark. 148 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:42.959 That One's like on the right side, and you're gonna 149 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:45.800 see a great TV version of Secret Invasion this time, 150 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:47.800 Chris good. You know you didn't get to last time, 151 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:52.759 but this time you'll get it. Yeah, we survived Secret Invasion. 152 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:53.560 That's another thing. 153 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.600 Hey, you know what that that that still goes down 154 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:00.360 as the funniest and both brutally honest episode I think 155 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:04.519 Brent and I ever had. Yeah, it sucked it will 156 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:09.240 that'd be kind Yeah, every month, we will go through 157 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:12.279 our thoughts on five episodes of Earth Mighties here so 158 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:14.680 that we David and I have set recording for that 159 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:17.720 for June fifteenth. That will drop at the end of 160 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:21.399 every single month, So that'll carry us through I don't know, 161 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:24.680 probably through probably the beginning of next year. So yeah, 162 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:26.839 we get twenty six. Yeah, we'll be through next year 163 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:28.040 a decent part of next year. 164 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.040 And you know what's so funny though, this network started 165 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:35.279 in twenty twenty to twenty one, kind in that era 166 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:39.360 there's is three hundred episodes, including Chris, has been four hosts, 167 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:41.000 and in none of that time did we get an 168 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:45.439 Avengers movie to talk about like I would when Chris 169 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:47.240 and I started the podcast and you said, oh, by 170 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:49.879 three hundred episodes, would you guys have an Avengers movie review? 171 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:52.000 With a oh, absolutely, there would have been at least 172 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:54.839 well a smaller twenty twelve one. 173 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:57.439 No, I mean there's an asterisk next. 174 00:07:57.240 --> 00:07:57.600 To that. 175 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:07.639 Then with his Z so it's different, different, sure, but yeah, 176 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:08.920 that's a yeah. 177 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:11.399 We'll finally break We'll finally break that this year. 178 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:13.879 Are you guys gonna watch Are you guys gonna do? 179 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:16.439 Like Go to Sea a interesting game in September when 180 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:17.360 it comes out. 181 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:24.800 There's a possibility, it's a possibility. I haven't really thought. 182 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:27.120 There's supposed to be some you know, extra scenes or whatever, 183 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:29.759 which is there, and they shouldn't do it, but they are. 184 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:32.960 So it's like what I say about it's kind of 185 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.399 what they say about I say about Lucas. It's his movie. 186 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:36.759 He could do what the heck he wants, like it 187 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:37.200 or hate it. 188 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:38.039 He did. 189 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:41.000 Yeah, at least this time that they're they're they're not. 190 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.399 It's not like Spider Man Far from Home came out 191 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.000 with extra scenes three or four weeks into its run 192 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:49.159 and it's like that's whatever. This at least is like 193 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:53.720 supposed to be connective tissue. It's a little different. 194 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:56.879 But it's not gonna be like pre cgi Hulk that 195 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:59.519 they added that endgame where you released at first. 196 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:01.639 But even now that was a special feature. It was 197 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:03.759 like a post credit thing. It wasn't in the movie, 198 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:04.799 which people always forget. 199 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:05.279 True. 200 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:07.879 Yeah, I will go to take it at least my 201 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:10.080 two oldest main myth there who knows she's a little 202 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.679 reckless at the theater. Sometimes she sometimes perfect and then 203 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:14.600 sometimes she has a lot to say and I gotta 204 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:16.879 keep reminding her. But because they haven't seen it in 205 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.879 the theaters, I'll take them to that. So yeah, I 206 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:23.559 think that's where I'll go see Avengers Endgame and get 207 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.000 ready for it because we're not that for less than 208 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.639 six months away now for uh crazy Doomsday, which is 209 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:29.919 crazy so all that weight. 210 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:34.200 But yeah, so we'll start that in June. And then again, 211 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:36.360 patrons who have been with us since we started this, 212 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:38.360 thank you. We cannot do this with about your support. But 213 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:41.039 if you're not a member, go to www dot patreon 214 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:43.240 dot com backslast gu eight network so you can get 215 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:46.399 all that lovely content from all the lovely network of 216 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:49.840 shows and take them time to rate and review. 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We want to thank them for 228 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:24.480 being a sponsor. All right, So we have and a 229 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:27.840 topic that you know, to the point of what we 230 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:30.639 said earlier, might we've done something like this, you know, 231 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.879 ranking in different ways, but we're we're doing something unique 232 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.440 with this ranking of every single MCU movie that has 233 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:41.879 been released. But it's going to be the agreement of 234 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.000 all of us here of where we're gonna put this, 235 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:47.840 put these in order. You know, it's going to get interesting. 236 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.639 We're gonna see if we can we see if friendships 237 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:54.120 can still continue on after this, because some people feel 238 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:57.279 strongly about the movie Eternals and and want it to 239 00:10:57.320 --> 00:10:59.919 be in that top five, so we'll see four. 240 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:02.679 Yeah. Well, I thought this was because we were trying 241 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:04.320 to think, Okay, what can we do for three hundred? 242 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:06.279 And I thought this was good because we've done rankings, 243 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:08.200 but always when you've got to make a collective list, 244 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:10.600 gets a little tricky. And then two, I think this 245 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:12.559 is good way because there's I feel probably films on 246 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:16.240 here that like there's been do like all combinations of 247 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:19.240 us talking on the Marvel Alliance, but maybe some episode 248 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:21.759 or some movies that we haven't talked about together right 249 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:23.879 in that sort of sense, whether because the different eras 250 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:26.240 that all the hosts were so other than Chris, but 251 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:28.000 even Chris, there might be sometimes where it was Brent 252 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.679 and I hosting or David I like somewhere in there. Right, 253 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:32.600 so it's going to be you know, cool. 254 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:34.279 Well, I mean Brent and I, I think the only 255 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.320 thing that we've kind of can say for sure we 256 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:39.480 have done the Infinity Saga all together. That was the 257 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:41.480 one thing that we did do all together. And so 258 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:45.440 after that it became, like you said, all over the 259 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:47.840 place because you and this is because you left at 260 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:49.799 Black Widow, I think, right. 261 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:54.159 I mean we just srammed. Yeah, because the first year 262 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.600 the Disney Plus shows and then I and I was 263 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:58.000 still there for No Way Home. Yeah, I think that 264 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:02.000 was when I started transition, was around Yeah, and then 265 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:05.000 and I just like it too because you know, whatever 266 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:06.799 happens for four and five hundred, but now it's like 267 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:10.480 this is gonna be okay. At three hundred, before Spider Man, 268 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:13.320 Brandy Today and Avengers, this was the all the Marvel Alliance's 269 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:17.240 hosts like agreed upon as well as we could rankings 270 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:18.039 of the movie. You know. 271 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.960 So yeah, so we're gonna you know, kind of we 272 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:26.919 kind of started talking about this off air that we're 273 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:31.120 gonna kind of look at our top group, our bottom group, 274 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:33.799 not necessarily ranking, but kind of group them at first, 275 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:37.120 and then start seeing if we can put them in 276 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.039 a numbering order, and then try to duke it out 277 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:44.120 amongst the semantics of the middle group. So again, this 278 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:48.679 is our list. If you think we're wrong, that's okay. 279 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:51.679 As as a friend of the show would say, it's 280 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:52.480 all subjective. 281 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:55.919 If you think we're wrong, you're right. 282 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:02.480 Uh So that's where we're gonna start. So do we 283 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:05.120 want to start with the bottom or do we want 284 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.440 to start with nominees for the top? 285 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:12.159 Maybe we should start on a positive foot, start the 286 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:15.080 happy round. All right, let's let's let's start high. 287 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:19.240 Okay, So why don't we go around the around the 288 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:21.600 group and everyone put out one that they want to 289 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:23.960 be in that we'll call I want to say ten, 290 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:30.120 Put ten up there, okay, okay, So we'll go around. 291 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:32.639 So David, you want to what's your first nominee? 292 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:37.960 All right, my first nominee is going to be Avengers 293 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:38.799 Infinity War. 294 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:41.360 Yeah, I agree with that. 295 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:42.600 Nobody's gonna argue with that one. 296 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:44.879 Yeah, there's no argument. Yeah, it's definitely gonna be in there. 297 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:48.960 Brent I'll go in game. 298 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:51.360 Yeah, all right, that's argument ranking. 299 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:57.919 Yeah, what about you try War War? Oh? 300 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:02.799 I mean you know what I'm not getting. Yeah, somebody 301 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:04.200 may not go with you, but I will. 302 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:08.960 It's in my top five, so yeah, because it doesn't 303 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:09.519 mean it has to be. 304 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:11.279 There's just on the menu right now, right, it's not 305 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:13.840 We could discuss and then go okay, actually no, we 306 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:15.840 can't agree on this. We'll circle back to. 307 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:18.799 Him, but real quick to get to the food food references. 308 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:24.440 But I will put up Black Panther. 309 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:27.159 Okay, that's not what I thought Chris was going to 310 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:27.519 go for. 311 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:29.399 Well, I think someone will put it up there. If 312 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:30.480 they don't, I will, so. 313 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:35.919 All right, I will put up Winter Soldier. 314 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:43.559 That's the one I Christmas get the Russou Quad movie. Sir, 315 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:46.039 I'm gonna say no way home. 316 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:49.240 I agree, I'm there. 317 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:53.840 My top five has all been named, my top six 318 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:54.639 have all been named. 319 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:59.480 Christy, what's upen next? When I were with Panther, I'm 320 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:01.759 trying to think Gardens Galaxy. 321 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:09.039 Okay, that's interesting. Might have all right, So that's that's eight. 322 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:14.600 Yeah we're eight, okay, eight, So I will put up 323 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:17.240 I'll put up Iron Man. 324 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:26.600 Man okay, right, it's you dude. 325 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:33.799 This is where it starts to get difficult. Yeah, because 326 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:34.679 I must say seven. 327 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:35.679 It's seven. 328 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:38.879 That's how t have already been named. So let's let's. 329 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:40.759 Now what else say is this before? You say? Like, 330 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:42.840 this is not set in stone? So if we put 331 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:45.320 this up and then start going into our middle pack 332 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:48.080 and say I think this might rank better, we we 333 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:53.679 do get the right to change. So you for tomorrow lost. 334 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:59.080 I am gonna go with the original Avengers. 335 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:01.360 All right, yeah I thought about that. 336 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:05.720 Yeah, okay, all right, well that'll be our worst ten. 337 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:07.039 Well it would do. 338 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:10.759 I only got nine nine, okay, I have even wrote 339 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:11.559 them down, so. 340 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:14.639 I got got in War, End Games, Civil War, Black Panther, 341 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:17.200 Winter Soldier, no Way Home, Brand New, or I put no, 342 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:18.039 that's where I screwed up. 343 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:19.919 You should just put it in the our shared document. 344 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:21.759 Yeah, and then you yeah. 345 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:22.080 Yeah. 346 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:25.679 If I'm supposed to put another one out there, I'll 347 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:28.159 say Dead pulling Wolverine. If I'm not, then I won't. 348 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.960 Yes, yeah, it's in my top ten. 349 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:32.120 I like it. 350 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:33.559 It just makes me happy. 351 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:35.240 It does. 352 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:39.200 It's just fun and it's got a great in sync intro. 353 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:40.919 So I'm here for it. 354 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:44.519 Hey, hey, who said movies could have to be fun? 355 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:45.200 That means. 356 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:48.440 I don't think I'm missing one, But then I just 357 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:50.879 got nine. I definitely am missing one because I feel 358 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:52.840 like Brent was going to be ten. Some editing is 359 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:55.159 right now. But I got Infindy War, Endgame, Civil War, 360 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:58.679 Black Panther. Oh, I forgot my own pick cardons got Okay, 361 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.600 so you're at at this and then when we start 362 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:04.000 bottom ranked, I'll start the bidding first one. Okay, So 363 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:06.720 that's what we've got our first batch of nominees here. 364 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:10.599 I can just share the screen pings. 365 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:14.640 Yeah, I'll say nine of those are in my top ten. 366 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:17.519 So so I'm feeling pretty confident about that. 367 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:22.000 Yeah, one of one of mine is not in the 368 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:25.519 top ten. That's on in my top ten. But I'm 369 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:26.480 okay with that right now. 370 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.160 So that just makes Chris like that, hang on, hang on, 371 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:34.640 hang on, hang on, Oh what is that image? I 372 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:37.200 don't like that. Okay, we're just gonna go with gonna go. 373 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:38.960 We're gonna go with the classic. We'll go with that. 374 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:42.640 So yeah, I actually haven't pulled up my uh ranks 375 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:43.440 to see what it. 376 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:46.480 Was that up a little bit, and I actually blew 377 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:49.319 up my rankings a while ago, so I'm kind of 378 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:50.640 doing them, doing them on the fly. 379 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.240 Yeah, to remove some TV shows from mine. 380 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:56.319 When we settled on this, I thought about redoing it, 381 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:58.720 and I said, nope, I'm gonna I'm gonna just go 382 00:17:58.799 --> 00:17:59.279 from the heart. 383 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:01.279 I thought about it and got it lazy. 384 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:04.960 So I think all mine are there because it's like 385 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:06.559 I said, I have the TV shows and letter box, 386 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:08.240 so my numbers are kind of all over the place. 387 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:10.519 So I'm happy with most of these. It's just a 388 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:11.880 question of, you. 389 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:14.480 Know, the one that is not. There's a couple that 390 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:17.519 aren't there for me on my list, Like I have 391 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:22.920 Wakanda Forever in my top ten. I have shunk Chi 392 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:24.799 in my top ten. But I know, Travis, I've always 393 00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:26.279 heard your opinions on that. That. 394 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.240 Oh I thought about saying that that'll be a tough Yeah, 395 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:30.839 it'd be a tough brief for me in top ten. 396 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:32.279 Well we'll see the shakes out, you know. 397 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:36.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, I'm good with this 398 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:36.880 list right now. 399 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:37.680 Yeah. 400 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:42.359 Yeah, I've got everything other than iron Man in my 401 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:42.960 top ten. 402 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:45.480 Yeah. 403 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:48.680 I think I still as like the elder Statesman of 404 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:50.799 like the start of it because I definitely have quality 405 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:54.200 and then some of the uh like the lineage in there. 406 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:59.279 But do we all have this list? What would everybody 407 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:01.519 put as there? They're number one? I'm gonna start hard 408 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:03.920 and say what would be the number one on this list? 409 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:07.240 Number one? For me? 410 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:10.880 To me, it's in game, But I won't argue if people. 411 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:15.440 I have Infinity War as number one, and Endgame is 412 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.079 my number three, with Something Situated is number two in 413 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:18.680 between those? 414 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:23.000 You got any game number three? 415 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:23.400 Yes? 416 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:28.880 I my top My personal top three are Avengers, Infinity War, 417 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:32.759 Spider Man No Way Home, and then Avengers Endgame. Okay, 418 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:38.359 Infinity War had the ending of it had more of 419 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:42.319 that shock all and stay with me and that memory 420 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:45.680 of that feeling of just anticipation, where the hell do 421 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:46.400 we go from here? 422 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:47.440 What's going to happen? 423 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:51.359 That it ranks higher for me, Like the ending of 424 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:56.200 Endgame was great, perfect culmination to Tony's story and everything else, 425 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.039 But afterwards, I'm just like, Okay, cool course sort he 426 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:02.440 wrapped this up in a nice little boat. I'm happy 427 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:04.519 that this happened, but it didn't leave me with that 428 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:09.039 oh my God, give me more like Infinity War did. 429 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:14.599 See where my personal rankings are Winter Soldier black Pants. 430 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:18.799 They're no way home Endgame in Infinity War. The reason 431 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:24.359 I'll always give the edge to Endgame over Infinity War 432 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:27.519 because even though Infinity War does have that gut punch 433 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:29.359 at the end with a snap that we're all waiting for, 434 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:35.400 because I'm too much in this stratosphere and no one's 435 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:37.519 like I knew they were coming back, not because I 436 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:39.480 knew spoilers. It's like they're coming back. 437 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:40.160 Yeah. 438 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:42.680 Like it didn't land as much as it land for 439 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:45.119 general audience, didn't make it bad for me. It didn't 440 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.519 ruin it for me. But there are certain parts of 441 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:52.359 Endgame that just mean more to me personally, and that's 442 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:56.759 the subjective opinion. Like Tony Tony saying he lost the 443 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:00.000 kid always gets me like that always breaks my heart 444 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:02.799 that moment. And then when he hugs Peter at the 445 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:05.759 end of that saying, oh my God, like that that are, 446 00:21:05.839 --> 00:21:07.880 like you said, David, the Ark of Tony Stark in 447 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:10.319 that one is just it comes full circle for me, 448 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:12.880 and that will always ranked us a little bit above 449 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:13.720 Infinity War. 450 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:17.119 I would not be mad at anyone flip flopping that 451 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:20.279 and putting in game over Infinity War, but by any 452 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:25.559 stretch like that, they are both amazing, amazing films. And yeah, 453 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:27.920 so either or to take the top spot for me 454 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:28.880 and I wouldn't be mad at that. 455 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:31.680 And then just to be clear, we are talking best 456 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:32.440 to not favorite. 457 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:33.759 Yeah, correct, Yeah, you're right. 458 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:36.079 Ye are we talking making sure? 459 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:38.079 Yeah? Oh we're talking. 460 00:21:39.039 --> 00:21:39.960 That changes my mind. 461 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:42.720 Well here's another thing to throw another wrinkle in an impact. 462 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:44.759 Do we want to do the impact? 463 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:49.079 Well, if you do impacts, yeah, well I will. I 464 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:52.960 will argue all day for impact. 465 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:55.559 You have a long you have a long reasons why 466 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:58.119 what it leads to you? You do have your reasons, 467 00:21:58.960 --> 00:21:59.200 I mean. 468 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:02.799 But all so with Infinity War and the whole Thanos 469 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:06.279 demand your silence, it just I mean, that whole viral 470 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:09.759 marking campaign was just it was amazing in my opinion. 471 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:13.519 Yeah, that's tough because if it's the flow, because for me, 472 00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:15.720 if it's favorites, I got any game in number one, 473 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:18.559 But if it's best, I prefer endgame to watch. But 474 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:21.640 I do think Infinity War is a better movie. It 475 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:24.279 also did something that I'm not gonna say never but 476 00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:28.759 successfully giving us a main character that is a villain. Honestly, 477 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:31.599 there's multiple main characters, right, but to get that journey 478 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:32.920 and we hear the all the time, all this this 479 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:35.720 villain's got a motivation, but when you really watch, it's like, Okay, 480 00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:37.519 someone destroyed my home plan, I'm coming to get you. 481 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:40.599 It's very layered character. There's moments like obviously when he 482 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:44.920 kills Gomorrah and you're seeing this mountain of a villain 483 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:47.440 weep tears for his daughter already has to do this. 484 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:50.759 There's such a there's such a journey for that character 485 00:22:50.839 --> 00:22:52.960 and really what he was in a couple of n 486 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:55.119 Cred scenes and a few scenes in Guardians Galaxy. They 487 00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:57.960 did all the heavy lifting in that movie. So yeah, 488 00:22:58.000 --> 00:22:59.880 that's where, Yeah, if we're doing a best I do 489 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.000 of in Finity War, I think it's a better quality. 490 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.839 And I think that's where I'm confused about like best 491 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:08.200 I know best in favor of me and did, but 492 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:10.799 what do we are? We is best tied to impact? 493 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:13.200 Is best tied to like the production? Like what are 494 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:14.039 we talking about? 495 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:17.720 I guess mine's just the A to B like quality 496 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:20.400 of the uh the film because and I don't agree, 497 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:21.880 but I know there's lots of people that don't like 498 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:25.119 the Middle Time travel portion of Endgame where it just 499 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:27.240 kind of slows down for a bit and it's taking 500 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:29.119 its time. I like all that. I always say love 501 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:31.759 heroes that are depressed, so I'm finding but I know 502 00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:32.839 a lot of people like, oh, you gotta do wait 503 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:34.279 all the time, but then you get the portals. But 504 00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:36.880 in Finny War doesn't have that issue. Though in Finny, 505 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:40.200 War's always it's very quickly paced, but it does take 506 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.599 some time to slow down a bit. I am a 507 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:45.440 day where like either one, one or two, I think 508 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.240 it's fine. I know there is a Spire film kicking 509 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:50.400 around and Civil War, but I think I am in 510 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:52.920 that camp where these two would be the top two 511 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:53.279 in my. 512 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:58.799 I agree, like the Portals moment is great, the ending 513 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:02.680 is great. But for full scale movies start. 514 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:05.000 To finish, I've got to give it to Infinity War. 515 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:08.799 I wouldn't have a problem if we end up having 516 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:10.839 Infinity War, Like, it's not enough for me to split 517 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:11.480 hairs over it. 518 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:18.880 Number one, okay, War number one? Okay. Now that brings 519 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:21.039 us to Now that's what I want to say is 520 00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:24.720 what are the films that if anyone thought, okay, Endgame 521 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:26.720 is not number two? What are those films you would 522 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:28.440 combat it with if you didn't feel. 523 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:31.240 That no Way Home is my number two. 524 00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:33.440 But like to me, like if you were to put 525 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:35.359 in Game over no Way Home, I'm okay with that. 526 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:43.920 Yeah, I think I almost want to say it almost. 527 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:49.200 I think Endgames should be number two just because of 528 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:55.240 the bringing the conclusion to what is an amount of 529 00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:59.599 a franchise that no one like, how could you have 530 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:02.160 ever thought that they could have mounted this in this 531 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:05.319 consistency during that time period, like they brought to close 532 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:11.680 ten years of Marvel that the superhero genre before this 533 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.920 was every so often. We were lucky to get anything 534 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.599 halfway decent. We gave the time of day and saying, okay, 535 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:19.119 this is the best we got. But look at what 536 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:22.359 we got when things got boo hits, the assembly on production, 537 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:25.200 boo hits, everything like that. But they still did it. 538 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:30.240 They set the bar for what right wrong, how we 539 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:33.880 do the things like you cannot argue with what it established. 540 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:35.839 Yeah, I agree. 541 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:38.599 Yeah, And I also think too, Like I'm not saying 542 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:42.079 anything's easy or anything like that, but I do think 543 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.759 in a sense Sperman Noy Home is easier to pull 544 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:49.720 off than Endgame was. As far as all those storylines, 545 00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:52.240 all those characters, all the years where knowing Home of 546 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:54.400 course is juggling a lot of stuff, but then it 547 00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:56.519 also kind of gets like a fun get ed Jeil 548 00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:58.759 free card with the other movies that they didn't even make, 549 00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:01.480 like with you know, the Toby Ons and Andrew one 550 00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:03.880 coming in there, and we get to bring that stuff 551 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.000 in there. So that's where I'd say that I'm pretty 552 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:08.440 high on No Way Home as well too, But I 553 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:11.160 think I'd be fine with Endgame being number two over 554 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:13.039 for a litany of reasons. 555 00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:15.599 I agree. Now Way Home is absolutely I mean, it's 556 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:19.039 my favorite Spider Man movie. It's it's up there in 557 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:22.240 my top five for sure, But if we're honest with it, 558 00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:24.119 a lot of that is to the back half with 559 00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:27.960 the three spiders together. Yes, and it's significant, not that 560 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:30.039 there's not great stuff in the first half, but it's 561 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:32.559 less so in the first half when people think about 562 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:35.480 that movie. So I would vote In Game over No 563 00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:35.920 Way Home. 564 00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:42.319 Yeah. Yeah, I would like to make a case for 565 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:51.079 Winter Soldier being third because of what it ended up. 566 00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:53.920 That was a change that was a big moment for 567 00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:58.759 Marvel post Avengers post like what we've set all these 568 00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:00.960 characters up what do we do? That was a pivot 569 00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:04.519 in the sense of, like we can make a serious 570 00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:07.960 compic movie from Marvel and turn it into a political 571 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:13.039 thriller genre. That really upended what the next phase of 572 00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:15.039 Marvel was gonna be and kind of set up stuff 573 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.519 because without I don't think we get a civil war 574 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:23.200 without Winter Soldier. 575 00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.359 When I'm saying that, course, I wouldn't mind it jumping 576 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:27.720 up to. 577 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.759 Three, we might not get any of that stuff too, 578 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.160 because obviously the Russo's are a big part of infinnie 579 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:35.680 war en game, right, so that's there. They kind of 580 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:37.680 got the keys of the Francis. 581 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.279 It blew up, like everything we felt like, Oh, Shield's 582 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:42.039 going to be this great thing every like you know, 583 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.839 Cap know this, Oh Cap know some other things. Cap, 584 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.640 you know, not necessarily always on the up and up 585 00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:49.839 with certain things, and all the stuff that he took 586 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.440 for granted, he's the one that says, no, bring it 587 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.720 crashing down, like nothing is sacred right now, We're gonna 588 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:58.960 do what's right. And it leads to his whole thing about, 589 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.559 you know, to civil wars point like I'm not going 590 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.559 to let a government tell me what to go and 591 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:06.839 where to go. If I see going down south. I'm 592 00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:08.920 going in you know, I'm not letting the government tell 593 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:11.319 me what to do. That's that moment is tied to 594 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.039 the results of Winter Soldier. 595 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:19.000 Yeah and one a speech from cap. 596 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:26.119 Yeah that's true. Yeah, yeah, that's if we're doing the best. 597 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:28.759 And I think I can agree my favorites. I can't 598 00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:30.480 get there because I love No Way Home and I 599 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.720 got that high up there. But but even then, that's 600 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:35.839 where my list is different, because wouldn't in Finny War 601 00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:37.799 is not my one or two. So that's what we're 602 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:39.440 doing on favorite. 603 00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:42.759 Civil War is my favorite of them. 604 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:46.400 Yeah, so I would be fine Winter Soldier in the 605 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:47.839 top three there. 606 00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:52.000 Yeah, that's fine. I won't argue it. 607 00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:55.799 Okay, So right now our top three is in Finny War, 608 00:28:55.880 --> 00:29:00.480 Endgame and Winter Soldier, and we got seven more to this. Again, 609 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:01.960 they don't have to go and be in the top ten. 610 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:05.119 But so far, so good on the stats there. 611 00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:07.759 So we wanted to put up next for four. 612 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:15.000 Would this be the spot for No Way Home? 613 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:17.559 I think it would. 614 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:25.519 I think so. I like because you said it's your favorite. 615 00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:27.720 For as far as quality or even what we're doing 616 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:29.559 for this list is the reason Brent that you have. 617 00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:31.920 Would you put Spidey over Civil War? 618 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:38.799 I mean me individually, I wouldn't. I was more reading 619 00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:44.240 the room. I'm compromising with where I what. I just like, 620 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.160 I know Civil War is lower on Chris's list, quite 621 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:50.119 a bit lower if I remember right, And I know 622 00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.799 that No Way Home is higher because he just told 623 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.880 us it was David's number two, and so I more 624 00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.799 just going with the I can sleep at night with 625 00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:01.160 that Spy. 626 00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.839 Spidey made me feel more though, Like Civil War had 627 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.880 some cool moments. It had the bucking moment, it had 628 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:10.480 the you know that everything going on with the shield, 629 00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:12.640 it had to does anyone want to get out like that? 630 00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:17.079 Those were all great, uh, but man, some of those 631 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:21.599 heartbeats with Spidery were chess incredible. It was the nostalgia 632 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:24.519 feel and it was also a moment that could bring 633 00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:28.599 back lapsed fans and be like I can just in 634 00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:33.359 a single vacuum still be able to enjoy this movie. 635 00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:37.359 I guess that's a funny thing to say about No 636 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.000 Way Home. In the vacuum To enjoy that movie when 637 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:43.680 it comes out of it's the third home movie, you 638 00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:46.200 you really need to know what happened in it and 639 00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:47.880 you all the other Spider Man. 640 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:51.319 But I've watched it with a friend who did not 641 00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:54.160 know who had missed so much of the MCU, and 642 00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.920 they were just like, well, I know Toby, and you know. 643 00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.640 Like and make that person go back and watch some 644 00:30:59.720 --> 00:30:59.960 of the. 645 00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.359 No that was that was a different person. I've exposed 646 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.920 way too many people to this movie. This person only 647 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.680 watched They watched the Toby ra Toby was their guy. 648 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.640 They watched the first of the Andrew Garfield movies. So 649 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.839 having all of this, they're just like, Okay, yeah, like 650 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.119 this this was something that and they sat there and 651 00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:23.359 they watched it, and we were like two thirds through 652 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.880 the movie where they just like, yeah, like I get 653 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:28.920 to just I had no idea who that is, but 654 00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.000 this part is super cool, and like I've picked up 655 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.920 on it. And I was like, oh, like, you are 656 00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:38.200 just enjoying this for what it is and you still 657 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.680 think it's a good movie without having twenty plus movies 658 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.559 of knowledge ahead of it. If you can do that, 659 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:46.480 I think that's saying something. 660 00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:49.400 All right. So just because this is the top four, 661 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.000 I know people have top three, but in my mind 662 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.880 I'm always concerned about the four because mout Rushmore right, 663 00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.400 I like the Mountain. These are those So for me, 664 00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:58.319 I'm gonna we're gonna read the room could get shot 665 00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:00.279 down right away, it could make a little interesting. I'm 666 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.960 gonna pitch both these not be number four. And this 667 00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.160 is one that I've pitched for a while in my drothers. 668 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.680 It's already ranked way too low because I think it 669 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.160 is the best quar No. Black Panther. 670 00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:13.519 Yeah, I was gonna I was gonna join. 671 00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.079 The other than some people I know which I've looked 672 00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:18.720 past the bad cg on near the end stuff. I 673 00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.119 look past all that doesn't buge me at all if 674 00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:25.640 you talk about the same way Civil War, Sorry, Winter Soldier, Guardians, 675 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:28.359 the first Iron Man, this is also a game changer, 676 00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.079 also changed things away. The MC was going first ever 677 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:33.920 Academy Award nominated Superhail film. 678 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:34.839 But it just. 679 00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.119 I can't even remember it was nominated that year, so. 680 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:40.119 Won for some of that. 681 00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:44.440 For I mean, I guess that was that was, But yeah, 682 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:48.880 for me, that really changed, Like there was all you know, 683 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:51.440 I love the MSU, but all that aside, I guess 684 00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:53.599 the Winter Soldier, but I feel like with Black Panther, 685 00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:56.799 that was the real first conversations of alluding to something 686 00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:58.759 from the MSU that was similar to the Dark Knight 687 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.480 Winter Soldier did have that, but it was the gravitas 688 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:05.960 and how big those issues were. And I always remember 689 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:08.079 when I was in the theater and the things kill 690 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:10.000 Monger was saying and what they're bringing up I would 691 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:12.039 have never thought was even when a Soldiers like, Okay, 692 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.240 it's a spy thrill, but you can do the classic 693 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.920 oh government bad storyline, right, Yeah, that's not a too stretch. 694 00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:19.240 But the idea of kill Monger being like, oh, you know, 695 00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:21.279 did the white people ask for mission when they took 696 00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.200 this from my people? Me just being in the theater 697 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:26.000 like this is happening in a not even like a 698 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:28.440 common book. Any of this is MSU in its prime 699 00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:31.960 twenty eighteen. It's Googler taking the chances, fantastic casting all 700 00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:36.160 round with Chadwick, kill Monger, Angebasat Sury. So for me, 701 00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:37.920 that would be actually the one I would fight for. 702 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.799 Emotional journey teams I can secon yeah, I can join 703 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:46.519 now that you're saying it, and thinking to myself like again, 704 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:50.720 I love no Way Home. But that also that was 705 00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:54.759 a little bit of nostalchia bait, where black panther kill 706 00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:58.240 Monger was a fresh from the gutter, like out the 707 00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:02.039 mud villain that you were just like, Okay, this is 708 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.400 the bad guy. Then you're like, oh crap, I'm sympathizing 709 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:06.000 with this guy. 710 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:07.839 Oh shit, he is making. 711 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:11.000 Good points like yeah, why aren't y'all helping the rest 712 00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:13.559 of the world. Why aren't you contributing to building up 713 00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.519 other black people? Why aren't you doing this? You started 714 00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:19.559 to go like, my man, this is making some sense here. 715 00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:23.199 Plus again, I like a movie where you know, somebody's 716 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:26.480 throwing some hands in he was throwing some hands. 717 00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:28.400 And to your point, that was and I always fight 718 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:30.119 for it. People always look at me like I'm crazy. 719 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.519 I always brank kill mong over Thanos. I don't care. 720 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:33.840 Oh absolutely, My. 721 00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:36.480 Dms are close. But like the thing is for me. 722 00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.599 That's where it didn't get to shine because infinny war 723 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:41.920 was right around the corner, right and Thanos came. And 724 00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.559 I've said as much as I kill Monger Moore, Thanos 725 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.800 is the Darth Vader of this generation. For movie bad guys, 726 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:51.280 that's who everyone sures to be, like, oh this channels 727 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.960 to me. It goes like like Vader, Hannibal Lecter, he 728 00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:57.880 Fledger's Joker, and then Thanos like those are maybe you're 729 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.119 throwing like mister Smith from the Matrix, but the those 730 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:02.480 are the ones that like they define certain decades that 731 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:05.000 everyone's trying to make that new type of villain and 732 00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.000 that Stanos not even Downey last week is oh yeah, 733 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.280 he's more powerful than Thanos. That's the measuring bar. But 734 00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:12.519 as far as the layered character which Stanos is, I 735 00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.800 think kill Mangers says even a bit more layers to him. 736 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:18.760 So yeah, I would agree with that just because it's 737 00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.199 more particularly for everything you all just said. But that 738 00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.280 ending ending went right before he dies, is the way 739 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:26.679 he's saying, like no, I don't want you to save me. 740 00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:28.519 I want I want to I want to go home. 741 00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:31.800 Like he is a true version of an antagonist. He's 742 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.840 not a villain. He is a true personification of an antagonist. 743 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:39.679 Where we've all said, like we find ourselves saying he 744 00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:42.639 ain't he ain't wrong what he's saying, Like his methods 745 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.480 may be not necessarily, but his methodology is like you 746 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:48.960 can understand why he's doing and why he's acting in 747 00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:52.079 this way of what his entire life has been surrounded 748 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:55.199 and lies and to see and being cheated out of 749 00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:57.760 a life that he feels like he should have had, 750 00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.880 not necessarily wanting for the crown out of life that 751 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:03.880 he got deprived of with the death of his father. 752 00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.960 Yeah, and you know to your point about you know 753 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:12.840 how kill Monger's in that whole line about just bury 754 00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.280 me in the ocean with my ancestress who jumped from 755 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:18.480 the ships because they knew death was better than bondage 756 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:19.599 like that. 757 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:20.559 Shit hit. 758 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:27.639 It does. And so no, I I get completely Travis, 759 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.159 why you put that as your number one? Like there's 760 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:35.000 no reason, like regardless of the number four. Yeah, no, no, no, 761 00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.360 but I'm talking about his number one. Why he always 762 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:38.519 puts it as his number one? 763 00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:40.760 Yeah, because it's like it's one of those films that 764 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.039 when take away all the cape stuff, when you look 765 00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:46.639 at the most important movies and even myself, right, I say, 766 00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:49.079 the best Marral movie for me is Logan. But Logan 767 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:51.599 would never be in that list of the movies that changed, 768 00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.280 just like Superhero Cinema or cinema where Dark Knight is there. 769 00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:57.760 You know, I would even say, like Toby spider Man 770 00:36:57.920 --> 00:36:59.519 is but Black Panther, I think is definitely one of 771 00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:01.920 those that that's on that list of the films that 772 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:05.480 change the scope of things, and honestly just like big 773 00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.280 for that community, right and howbeit was at that moment 774 00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:08.719 to have. 775 00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:12.440 No longer was it oh you know, people going of 776 00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.119 kids going there like it was a moment in time, 777 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:18.159 but also topical for right now with the discussions of 778 00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:21.519 what's going on with the now ended quote unquote boycott 779 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:23.679 of DC Comics that didn't go too long in the 780 00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:25.960 sense of DC so white. 781 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.000 Another topic for another day. But the reason I bring 782 00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:31.599 that up is just like I'm not saying Marvel is 783 00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:34.079 doing better than it, but it also brought up the 784 00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:38.000 conversation of what do we look to our heroes and 785 00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.719 what do we look to representation? We all four of 786 00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:44.440 us have said on the show many different times representation matters. 787 00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.880 And are they doing are they putting it out there? Sure? 788 00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:51.159 Can they do better? Should they do better? Yes? But 789 00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:54.679 this was something that after also the behind the scenes 790 00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.000 of how long this movie took with Ike Permater and 791 00:37:58.079 --> 00:37:59.960 all the other ones not putting this on the back 792 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.199 Bernard at this one for this moment right here, for 793 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:07.679 Chadwick Boseman's this entire cash they crew, everything about it. 794 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:11.280 You know, this was that moment in time. So yeah, 795 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:14.119 I'm I'm good with it. Putting at four. 796 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:18.199 I'm gonna agree mark it down at four. It's sold. 797 00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:18.880 I'm not gonna argue. 798 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.079 And as many times it is because this movie, I 799 00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:27.519 got to say, Hey, Auntie, I heard. 800 00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.480 You say that a time or two. Yeah, I'm not 801 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:33.039 I'm not gonna argue with it. Go mark it down, Blackman. 802 00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:35.079 And so we put No Way Home at five. 803 00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:38.639 Yeah, we just you know, okay, So No Way Home. 804 00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.360 And then I well, I guess I heard that Brent 805 00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:44.559 say that Chris is more down. I would be fine 806 00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:48.199 with because right now we have Civil War, Iron Man, Avengers, 807 00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:50.840 Deadpool over and Gardens the Galaxy the only one I 808 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.000 could see someone make a case for his Gardens Galaxy. 809 00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.920 But I would still put Civil War over that personally. 810 00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.920 But I can see why people could make the case 811 00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.840 for Gardens. That's another. And see when that changed a 812 00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:03.679 lot of the tone. Right that came out and everyone's like, oh, 813 00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.239 Gun has the formula, Let's do a lot of that stuff. 814 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.960 It was a big success to create these characters out nothing. 815 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:11.079 But I think Civil War to me sung a lot, 816 00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:15.719 especially with the tone that's the cap not just that. 817 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:18.079 But it introduced us to Black Panther that he just 818 00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:23.159 waxed boatic about. I mean, yeah, it introduced us to 819 00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:26.039 Spider Man, which David mentioned about earlier, and the nostalgia 820 00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:30.000 there of how important that character is and the best. 821 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.199 Spider Man in the msum is gonna say it didn't 822 00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:34.079 like when the Russell's Handlespider Man. 823 00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:38.760 Important important to say. It did not adapt, but it 824 00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:43.519 was inspired by a very iconic storyline, and as an 825 00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.679 inspired by it did a really good job with it. Again, 826 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.360 not an adaptation. People will get those two things confused. 827 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:55.800 But and to Chris's point earlier, the impact that the 828 00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.599 movie Civil War had goes on a very long ways, 829 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.639 all the way to the rest of Phase three and 830 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:03.119 beyond even. 831 00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:05.880 To the other brand. It kicked the dbs's ass, you know, 832 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:06.920 create a whole war. 833 00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.840 I didn't say it. I didn't. 834 00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:12.000 I'll say it again a close. 835 00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.360 But I didn't argue with it. But I didn't say 836 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:15.760 it either. 837 00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:19.199 Yeah, no, I think it's again. For me, it's that 838 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.480 it's I know everyone's gonna tell at the airport scene, 839 00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.119 but for me. It's actually the third act with just Bucky. 840 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.599 Tony the airport scene. People only don't like it because 841 00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:29.679 it's daytime and it's cloudy outside, like it's great. I'm sorry, 842 00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.679 it's a little overcast, like. 843 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:32.440 If you paint. 844 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:34.320 They're like, oh, there's no people there. Well, if you 845 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.719 listen to the announcements say evacuated the airport, like, people's 846 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:41.679 complaints are legitimately explained to the movie. So and you 847 00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:42.880 don't even have to dig deeper. 848 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.559 You're trying to rationalize fandom there, it's just there. 849 00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:48.679 So I'll still say that it's like the Black Panther. 850 00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:50.440 The airport does look ugly. 851 00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.840 But civil war is high as high as the group 852 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:53.480 will come to it. 853 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:56.199 I'm good with it. I guess I've come around more, 854 00:40:56.280 --> 00:41:01.639 not because you your arguments are something that i've I 855 00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:03.760 see exactly as you put it out there. It's come 856 00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:06.119 up on my list. It's still it's in the top twenty, 857 00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.679 but it's come up further than where it was, not 858 00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.960 because I was a hater of it, but because yeah, 859 00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.880 but to where you point out the impact it's had 860 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.079 is okay. That's that's where it gets me saying no, no, 861 00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:20.199 you're right, it moves it forward like that. 862 00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.960 So Captain America chasing Black Panther chasing Bucky. So good, 863 00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:25.920 that's a huge. 864 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:27.519 I'm a big defender Zimo. I think he's one of 865 00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.840 MC films, like even before Winter Soldiers, like it was 866 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.440 great to Sure he's not flashy, and sure it's not 867 00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:36.079 like this big art, but it was something very personal 868 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.800 and subtle, and like I said, it worked and then 869 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.199 we got that great third day. So I'm good with that. 870 00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:42.840 We get a great dance move from Zmo. 871 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.840 Come on, yes we did, Yeah we did. So now 872 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.199 we have Ironman Avengers that pull over and guards Galaxy 873 00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:50.800 on the board right now, out of the ones we 874 00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:51.880 had before. 875 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.199 I personally have Guardians right after Civil War. So I'm 876 00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:58.599 okay with leaving that there. 877 00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:03.199 I would agree at the Here's the thing. I technically 878 00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:06.119 like Dead pull wolver In more, but I think that 879 00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:08.760 Girds is a way better movie. 880 00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:12.400 The only Dead Pulling Wovering is a more fun movie 881 00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:12.639 for me. 882 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:14.199 It's I can put it on it. 883 00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:16.960 And I can just enjoy film, and it's in my 884 00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:21.079 top ten. It's just not it's not in the upper 885 00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:22.239 echelon of my top. 886 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.360 But if we're going with what we said. It ties 887 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:26.840 into what we said about No Way Home. It's nostalgia 888 00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:28.800 bit I love but at Pull the wover In too. 889 00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:34.119 But let's be honest, that is a lot of love 890 00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.159 and celebration of franchises that we have grown up with. 891 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:39.760 Yeah, the only other one that I would dis you 892 00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:41.559 because I haven't turned on the film like many other 893 00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.280 people do. But I still love that original Avengers. I 894 00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.360 get some people's criticisms, but I would still be fine 895 00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.719 to put Guardians next. That would just be the only one. 896 00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.719 I go, oh, maybe that, But if Guardians is number seven, 897 00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.400 I'm not going to really fight anybody about it. It's 898 00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:56.199 a it's a great time. 899 00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:59.320 The snixt four that we have that we nominated, iron Man, Avengers, 900 00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.119 that Pull, Woverine, Guardians, I could accept in any order. 901 00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:06.719 I personally would put Guardians first from these four, but 902 00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.000 like any order, except. 903 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.760 My personal next three is Guardian's Avengers and then Deadpool 904 00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:18.079 Wolverine in that order like that rounds out my top nine. 905 00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:20.880 I don't have Iron Man in my top ten, but that, 906 00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.239 but those round out my top nine. 907 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:27.519 I put Dead Pills number ten, and then. 908 00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.639 Yeah, that's where I might be with Chris where I 909 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:32.679 I think iron Man for me is still a better 910 00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:34.519 movie than dead poolvering. 911 00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:39.320 It certainly has impact, Yeah, nobody the impact iron. 912 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:42.440 It has its weaknesses, like the Ironman action. It sucks 913 00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:44.559 in that movie, like it's it's not good, like that 914 00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:49.079 last fight with Filmore or Iron Bonger. It's like it's 915 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:53.599 very it's almost better than had any right to be. Like, 916 00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:56.119 they're so lucky because Favreau is a great director that 917 00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:57.400 they managed to pull that off. 918 00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:58.920 So you have its time in the sense of what 919 00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:00.280 they had available. 920 00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:01.840 Right, Yeah, And it's just one of those though that 921 00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:04.760 still inspired many things. Right, So I think we're locked 922 00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.320 on Guardians and Avengers or Guardia Guardian Avengers. It's just 923 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:14.239 where are we because me and Chris are more with 924 00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:15.280 iron Man next. 925 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.639 But then if you guys want to do iron Man, 926 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:23.440 then Deadpool. I am not in disagreement with that. Iron 927 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.960 Man's number twelve on my list was not far out 928 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:28.320 the top ten. It's not like that this is a 929 00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.159 huge thing. My my thing against iron Man is kind 930 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.000 of the same points we argue made. The climactic scene 931 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:40.440 is very clunky to me and very formulaic, but also 932 00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:44.880 like everything leading up to that just had me sitting 933 00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:46.599 there on the edge of my seat and he's. 934 00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.559 Just like, this is awesome. This is awesome, this is awesome. 935 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.280 And that's me where I give some more creditsca that 936 00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.480 first whole act is there's no Iron Man or nothing. 937 00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:56.360 We're as much as I love it. But Wolverine it 938 00:44:56.480 --> 00:45:00.280 is Hey, you're getting Wolverine, You're getting dozens Wolverine suits. 939 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.079 It's a fun time. Or Iron Man it's hey, it's 940 00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:04.840 rober Dannel Jr. In this cave for twenty five minutes 941 00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.800 and they make you care about him in that world, right. 942 00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:09.679 And we see the development at the beginning of the 943 00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:13.039 development of a character that you know, can't give anything 944 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.360 for anyone in the world except for himself and throw 945 00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.079 throws life away and goes through I mean, look at 946 00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:23.840 what they used in the one of my favorite trailers 947 00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:26.239 from Endgame where he says I went in that cave. 948 00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.480 You know, like they use that for a reason if 949 00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.559 we're looking at an impact, like you know, yes, we 950 00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:34.519 could say, oh, obviously it's the first movie, but look 951 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:38.320 at the arc of what it starts with Tony Stark, Yeah, 952 00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:41.159 like he is I know, it's always cap in Iron 953 00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:44.320 Man but like, say what you want. I still say 954 00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.559 I put iron Man's arc more impactful in the Infinity 955 00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:53.280 War saga than Captain America. I say it's iron Man. 956 00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:57.039 And Cap, especially because Caps are just randomly changes between 957 00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:00.000 Age of Ultron and Civil War. I think I'm happy 958 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:01.280 being a soldier, and then all of a sudden, he's like, 959 00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:03.440 I really would like to date that hot chick, you know, 960 00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:06.519 like he was for a couple of mos. Completely fine. 961 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.239 He's like, oh, Tony said I should do this. Now 962 00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:10.159 I'm not gonna do that, but no, and I agree 963 00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:12.840 with you right like it is. He is the there's 964 00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.400 a reason why the d there's no end quyts endgame. 965 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:19.079 It's just the hammer clanging and what. And that's why 966 00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:21.840 no matter what, whether it works or fails, that's why 967 00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:23.880 it's such a big deal of him coming back as 968 00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.679 Doctor Doom, right, because it is they're playing with fire. 969 00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:28.480 It could be something great, but it could also be Hey, 970 00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.559 this is something special, and now even more so than 971 00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:33.199 CAP because you can add more story. This is an 972 00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:36.119 actor now taking on a new, big role. That could 973 00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.320 be something like, oh man, remember he was just iron Man, 974 00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:40.159 you know, or it could be their verse of you know, 975 00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:42.360 Danny's great and that's why I can't wait for December. 976 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:47.280 So yeah, okay, so Avengers maybe Avengers nine deadpoot w 977 00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:49.679 Malverne ten. Yeah yeah, sorry Iron Answering. 978 00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.239 Sorry my god, let's uh say we got the ten. 979 00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.039 Let's take our first ad break. How's that all right? 980 00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:56.840 So listeners of these ads help keep the life on 981 00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.000 the Gigletimate lines network. We don't get choose what ads 982 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:00.159 come on, and they could be a bit laud to 983 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.199 give you that three count before they come on three 984 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:07.000 two one. We'll be right back and we are back. 985 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.320 Okay. So now out of the thirty seven, we've locked 986 00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:12.679 the top ten. So we got that. So now we're 987 00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:14.920 going to the bottom ten. And it left off of me. 988 00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:18.039 So I get to nominate. I got to nominate the 989 00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:21.679 very first movie I ever failed for the MCU, and 990 00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:23.360 I think it's the only one. There's a couple of 991 00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:26.239 TV shows, but I've still never failed. Some people I 992 00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:28.360 know Brent probably thinks of sour and MSU. I haven't. 993 00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:28.760 I'm just. 994 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:34.039 Standard. Remember remember world standard Again. 995 00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:35.960 It's like if you're day in someone and they didn't 996 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:37.679 cheat on you, but you saw him like maybe having 997 00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:39.199 too long a conversation with somebody. 998 00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:41.960 It's got to be a food reference. 999 00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.559 I would say you are higher on the MCU than 1000 00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:46.199 you are Star Wars, but you've soured. 1001 00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:51.280 I've given up on stars. You know. That's another time. 1002 00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:54.960 But I've never I've only failed one MCU movie, and 1003 00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:58.320 that is ant Man and Quantum and mana Wasp in Quantumedia. 1004 00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.760 I'm nominating for the the bottom ten because uh yeah 1005 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:04.760 again I I have concerns since I've been away from 1006 00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.800 the because you gotta remember, I don't care. I loved 1007 00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.480 speaking of Ray bringing No. It wasn't no, no, no. 1008 00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:12.639 Mc was the gold standard. I'm sorry, buddy, I don't 1009 00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.079 even know this. It was. It was for what you 1010 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.559 look forward to franchise, right like what you as for 1011 00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:20.920 fans and a business. It was quantum Mania. There was 1012 00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:23.639 sure little stumblest of the phases. QUANTUMEA to me is 1013 00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:25.639 the first time the MSU ever got punched like in 1014 00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:28.159 a boxing ring, and they fell down. Other times they 1015 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:30.920 even eternals. I think they took on the blows like okay, 1016 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:33.559 get sill match quanme was the first time like hey 1017 00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:37.679 you good, can you make it through this round? And yeah, 1018 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:40.079 and now it's gonna be worse than Incredible. Hope they'll 1019 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:42.400 be the most forgotten MC movie of all time, like 1020 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:45.400 just because of everything right, so Incredible. 1021 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.920 Holk has has way come up a lot. 1022 00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:51.000 Just got a sequel reflection, you know, I got a 1023 00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:54.199 sequel with the Leader back and Rossly. Yeah, I'm putting 1024 00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:57.599 I'm putting a quantumedia there. 1025 00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.920 So I will put up the next one being thor 1026 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:04.360 Love and Thunder. That's where in my opinion, like I 1027 00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:09.280 I know people are big to like either love or hate. 1028 00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:13.559 You know, Ragnark. I will be a defender of Ragnarrek. 1029 00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:17.920 I love that movie. It's because there are so many 1030 00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:21.000 funny things about that movie that I liked what it was. 1031 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:25.800 I think this took what I liked about it and 1032 00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:30.079 doubled down, not in a good way like this this one. 1033 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.800 You know, as people liked, say Taika went to Taika, Yes, 1034 00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:38.519 Taika went way too Taika, And it even started started 1035 00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:41.840 questioning saying, yeah, I wanted to change. I don't know 1036 00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:43.599 if I wanted as much. I kind of want to 1037 00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:46.000 go back to the Brenna Aaron find a nice little 1038 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:51.400 like this one. Yeah, I I this is at my bottom. 1039 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:52.559 Even when there's a famous interview when they ask him 1040 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:54.159 fire like, oh, what type of genre is this movie? 1041 00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:55.880 Because MC always has the type of genre. It's like, well, 1042 00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:56.719 it's a tycho movie. 1043 00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:57.480 And that's like. 1044 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:02.679 Something. I think I heard Brent make a noise. I 1045 00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:04.679 think I'm with Brent that I'm not as much of 1046 00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:07.039 a hater as this, but I with I understand Chris 1047 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:10.880 that there it is. As much as I don't like 1048 00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:13.599 ant Man three, I do think thorl and Thunder comes 1049 00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:18.239 up way more people disliking it. And yeah, so okay, 1050 00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:23.079 that's Osse added because it's Chris's pick there, so it's David. 1051 00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:26.880 Now, all right, I'm going to switch to a different 1052 00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:29.239 Thor movie, and I'm gonna go with Thor the Dark. 1053 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:35.360 World, one of the low hanging fruits there. I'll go 1054 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.119 ahead and do the other low hanging fruit and say 1055 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:43.840 iron Man two iron technically, even though iron Man two 1056 00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:45.880 has some cool stuff in it, but I'll for a 1057 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:46.719 bottom ten. 1058 00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:49.360 Yeah, dangerous point zero five. 1059 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.000 I mean, honestly, they all have some cool stuff, like. 1060 00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:59.360 Yeah, okay, this is the bottom right, Oh, this is 1061 00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.599 the easy one Black Widow for me. I'm throwing that there. Wow, 1062 00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:06.920 you know, discount Winter Soldier, you know, sugar free Winter Soldiers. 1063 00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:09.920 And still better than so many movies. I disagree, but 1064 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:10.960 put it in there. 1065 00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:20.280 All right, the Marvels. I love the characters in it, 1066 00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.800 but this movie was completely underserved, and I know it 1067 00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:28.159 all behind the scenes stuff everything like that. I agree. 1068 00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.199 I think we've all said it, like if this movie 1069 00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:33.239 had come out with and the strike didn't happen, I 1070 00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:36.800 don't think it would have saved it, but that press 1071 00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.360 tour would have would have brought in some more, some 1072 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:43.239 more audience to this movie. And I think I think 1073 00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:49.000 individually the characters, I mean, a Mambilai was a gem 1074 00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:55.480 in that movie, but it just didn't land and and 1075 00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:59.800 it always brings the argument was Captain Marvel, was it 1076 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:01.679 a billion dollar movie because it was a good movie 1077 00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:03.440 or was it a billion dollar movie because it was 1078 00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:07.199 the movie leading into Endgameya? I think that's a conversation 1079 00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:09.960 that still gets happened. And I don't think someone who 1080 00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.719 argues that it was a billion dollar movie because of 1081 00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:16.519 Endgame coming, it's hard for me to not say that 1082 00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:19.079 you don't have some some stuff that you're not right 1083 00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:19.519 about with that. 1084 00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.000 Are you talking the Marvels or Captain Marvel There. 1085 00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:26.039 I'm talking about the Marvels. I'm just saying like that, 1086 00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:28.360 you know, the question that comes in when that movie 1087 00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:32.880 doesn't even come close to okay to its predecessor. I'm 1088 00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:34.360 not saying it should have been a billion dollar movie, 1089 00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.440 but when it doesn't even sniff in that direction, that's 1090 00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:38.599 there's a lot going on. 1091 00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:48.519 Yeah, I've got two options here, and I got to 1092 00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:52.360 decide which one I want to shit on first show. 1093 00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:56.239 I am going to go with. 1094 00:52:56.440 --> 00:53:00.639 The easy out and just say eternals if it is, yeah, 1095 00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:03.679 it's in. It's in my bottom ten. We all knew 1096 00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.360 it was coming. There is something that ranks a little 1097 00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:07.400 bit worse than that. 1098 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:10.239 But I don't know if I'm ready to. 1099 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:13.239 Just thrust or the two. 1100 00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:14.360 You know not. 1101 00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:18.159 I almost was worried it wasn't gonna be in the 1102 00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:20.360 bottom ten because we all thought someone would say it 1103 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:21.320 and then no one would say it. 1104 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:22.719 I was gonna say it. 1105 00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.280 I competent, someone was gonna put it there. I wasn't worried. 1106 00:53:26.679 --> 00:53:29.400 And that's another part of my reasoning. Is it it 1107 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:31.840 needs to be here in the bottom ten, so you 1108 00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:34.920 got to get said. I don't want it to slip 1109 00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:38.239 up and make it into the top twenty five because 1110 00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:39.679 no one wants to mention its name. 1111 00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:44.000 I'm gonna say in the wasp for my next one, 1112 00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:48.639 that was choice. Something about that movie. When I watched it, 1113 00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:52.920 I'm like, I like it, it's fine, but I don't know. 1114 00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:55.920 I just it's it's hard for me to quantify, which 1115 00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:59.800 is perfect for a podcast, but it just there's some 1116 00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:01.239 lacking about that movie. 1117 00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:04.639 Well, it felt like the same thing that we've said 1118 00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:07.480 about thor Love and Thunder, where you know, they just 1119 00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:09.760 went a little bit too far. The same thing with 1120 00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:11.960 that one is like, all right, we had a good movie, 1121 00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:16.119 let's do the same thing and just kind of turn 1122 00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:18.639 the dial up a little bit. And it just it 1123 00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:22.679 felt a little bit disingenuous. It felt just like here 1124 00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:25.320 we go. Here, here's the next installment, because you gotta 1125 00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:26.400 do the next installment. 1126 00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:29.159 Yeah, but that's Michelle. 1127 00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:30.920 The biggest waste of time in the sense of the 1128 00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:36.440 ant doing the drums side that we didn't need that one. 1129 00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:38.800 We could have just had the other post and just done. 1130 00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:40.480 We didn't need to. That was a waste. 1131 00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:45.639 Irrationally hate that so much. I don't know why, all right, so. 1132 00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:48.280 Much like Brent said, there's just something something in a 1133 00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:50.360 movie you just don't know. You can't put your finger 1134 00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:52.440 on it. This I can't put my finger on because 1135 00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:54.800 I did recently rewatch this, but I did not watch 1136 00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:56.760 this in or I just watched this in the trilogy, 1137 00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:59.119 and I think, what a lot of people hate on it. 1138 00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.000 I never loved or really enjoyed the film, but I 1139 00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:03.599 didn't hate it, and I still don't hate it. But 1140 00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:07.360 I'm gonna go uh Spider Man, uh, which is the 1141 00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:09.239 second one Home Home? 1142 00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:09.639 Probably? 1143 00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:09.960 Yeah? 1144 00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:14.119 Number two? Yeah, I just I remember, Yeah, Spiderman, Spider Man, 1145 00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:16.679 Tom Hall and two. We watched this summer because we 1146 00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.000 were in the mood with the girls watching some Spiderman stuff, 1147 00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:20.719 and when we just watched that alone, because I know 1148 00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.440 Brent's always point this out, but I'm usually not doing that, 1149 00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:25.960 so and I just watched, and even the kids when 1150 00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:28.719 we watched Spider Man Far from Home with no in Finney, woret, 1151 00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:29.280 no endgame. 1152 00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:29.960 Damn. 1153 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.280 That movie just it just doesn't even work. And that's 1154 00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:34.000 where to me is like a film by itself. And 1155 00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:35.599 if this is not a favorite, it's a best list. 1156 00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:38.559 That's where I think there's other films that still can 1157 00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:40.679 work even Civil War to a point. It's a big jump, 1158 00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:42.960 but can work work far from home. It just feels 1159 00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:45.360 especially from home coming to there and even little stuff 1160 00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:47.679 right as far as to me, I was super excited 1161 00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:50.039 when they had the home the cliffhanger of oh Aunt. 1162 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:52.880 Made's gonna know that Peter Spider Man and how's it 1163 00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.400 handled the next movie? First finance they have a high five. Yeah, 1164 00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:57.239 good job that you good job. You just be safe. 1165 00:55:57.480 --> 00:55:59.559 That's it. That's such a huge moment that we've never 1166 00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:02.400 gotten to Spider my movies auntme knowing Peter Parker and 1167 00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:03.920 what comes with that. But he just goes on a 1168 00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.719 trip and they barely interact. They have three scenes together. 1169 00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:11.840 I think we just lost Travis. 1170 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:13.440 Yeah, they have three scenes together. 1171 00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:18.039 Finished that for him, and so my WiFi was going out. 1172 00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:20.199 I don't think you guys saw my shocked face when 1173 00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:24.599 he said that, Like I was, cause that it's not 1174 00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:25.280 in my. 1175 00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:28.920 Bottom fifteen, but it's at least in like my top 1176 00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:30.480 twenty five. And so when he said that, I. 1177 00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:33.519 Was like, what, Yeah, that's a chakra. 1178 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:37.559 I've more soured on Far from Home over the years 1179 00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:39.519 than when I originally did it. It wasn't in my 1180 00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:43.159 top But the more I've watched it, the more I like, ugh, 1181 00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:45.119 I really don't want to watch this. 1182 00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:47.480 I still think it's a lot of fun, but it's 1183 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:49.880 you can't watch it like trying to watch it the 1184 00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.840 way that Snell just said he did. It does not work. 1185 00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.559 It is not part of a trilogy. Again, Marvel does 1186 00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:58.239 not have trilogies, like you said, like, so it doesn't work. 1187 00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:00.760 That's why you can't. What's the best book trilogy of 1188 00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:02.760 all time? I don't know. The MCU doesn't have a 1189 00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:04.320 comic book trilogy. 1190 00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:05.840 It's any one you. 1191 00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:09.480 Put them in it like they're just automatically out by default. 1192 00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:13.039 They don't have one. But honestly, Deadpool is probably the 1193 00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:15.239 closest in. It needs to go back to Fox Movies 1194 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:20.079 now for a trilogy. And Travis just said wi FI 1195 00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:21.199 is causing. 1196 00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:26.440 He guess what the original cruise, the new the backup 1197 00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:30.360 cruise back. Well, it's my turn anyways to put one 1198 00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:38.159 up since ce So what are you all right? I'm 1199 00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:41.760 going back and forth between two actually three. 1200 00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:44.440 But we only have room for one more. 1201 00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:47.880 I know. So this this, this is where I'm debating 1202 00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:49.639 right now. I've got tell us here three tell you 1203 00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:51.519 that's what I'm gonna say. Like, my my three right 1204 00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:55.159 now are Iron Man three, Age of Ultron, and Captain 1205 00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:58.000 America Brave New World. 1206 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:01.480 I could tell you what I would pick. 1207 00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:04.840 I think there's only one acceptable choice out of those three, 1208 00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:06.920 but it's your call, so I'm not gonna say it. 1209 00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:12.400 I will say Brave New World made the right choice, 1210 00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:21.039 and Brave New World to me, had and I hate 1211 00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:25.400 saying it because I it Sam Wilson's Captain America deserved 1212 00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:28.840 a lot more, especially the way Falcon and Winter Soldier. 1213 00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:34.199 I put Falcon War Soldier a lot higher in my face. 1214 00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:41.679 In d C, DC MCU streaming shows like Upon, like 1215 00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:45.840 I will rewatch that through and through and fall more 1216 00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:49.719 in love with that show because of call it the messaging, 1217 00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:51.920 call it like, there's so much going on with that. 1218 00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:54.920 And for what happened with this movie that they should 1219 00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:58.920 have had, there was just way too much they were 1220 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:03.840 jamming in there. It got very messy. I understand why 1221 00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:06.119 the you know, people say, oh, you revealed the Red 1222 00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:09.079 Hulk in that they had to reveal. There was no 1223 00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:11.760 way they could have like avoided that. 1224 00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.119 You know, the leader wasn't caring that movie in the marketing. 1225 00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:15.679 Yeah, no way, and. 1226 00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:19.679 Then the movie barely like it's still like it did 1227 00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:21.440 well enough for them, but it didn't do probably what 1228 00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:21.880 they were holding. 1229 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.159 Yeah, no, there was there's again, like we said, even 1230 00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:26.880 the movies in the bottom, there's a lot to like 1231 00:59:26.920 --> 00:59:29.719 about different ones in different scenes. But and I have 1232 00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:31.639 a lot to like about Brave New World. I just 1233 00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:35.960 cannot move it out of It's not the bottom for me, 1234 00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:39.320 but it's definitely I can't claim it in midpack either. 1235 00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:43.800 So okay, the Brave New World was Chris's last Yes 1236 00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:47.920 things A lightning bolt took me out. So yeah, okay, eleven, 1237 00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:49.199 we have eleven? How do we get eleven? 1238 00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:50.079 What happened? 1239 00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:55.119 Chris just wanted to get it in. There happen? 1240 00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:59.199 There we go? Wait a minute, no, I was pretty confident. 1241 01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:02.679 Man got separated. There there we go. So okay, So 1242 01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:07.239 our bottom ten nominees are ant Man three, Am Wast, Quantumnia, 1243 01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:10.639 Thor Love and Thunder, The Dark World, Ironman two, Black Widow, 1244 01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:14.199 The Marbles, Eternals, Ant Man, A Wasp, Far from Home, 1245 01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:15.400 and Brave New World. 1246 01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:17.480 What do we want to claim that? I think it 1247 01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:19.840 might be easier like bottom, like the last. 1248 01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.679 Yeah, well, I thought it might be easy, but I 1249 01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:24.400 don't know because I feel like you guys know because 1250 01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:25.920 like for me, it is ant Man three, but I 1251 01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:27.960 don't know. I think you guys have different bottoms. 1252 01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:33.079 Yeah, the Dark World is is my bottom, but ant 1253 01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:35.559 Man three is in the bottom three of mine. 1254 01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:38.599 So if you were to make the case all that, 1255 01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:41.760 I'd be like, okay, I. 1256 01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:45.639 Could originally, like I haven't revisited my letterboxing a little bit, 1257 01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:49.800 but I could easily. I would probably switch Dark World 1258 01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:53.320 has been my bottom, but I would easily now switch 1259 01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:57.119 it to quantu Mania just because of it. It was 1260 01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:00.440 the beginning of like, ooh man, we're in trouble right now. 1261 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:02.480 You know this is this is not the way that's 1262 01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:02.960 worked out. 1263 01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:06.239 Just put media there. 1264 01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:12.280 Yeah, the new for Gone movie is Okay, that makes 1265 01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:12.719 some change. 1266 01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:15.000 Then I would I would put Dark World is following 1267 01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:15.519 that up. 1268 01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:21.760 Dark Yeah, thirty seven would be Quantumdia. Yeah, thirty six 1269 01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:25.599 would be Dark World, assuming well, I think David's okay 1270 01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:27.639 with that as well. Let me don't let me speak 1271 01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:29.400 for you, but you just said it was your bottom, so. 1272 01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:37.320 Yeah, I'm I'm freezing up over here, so I don't 1273 01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:39.000 know if you guys can hear me, But yes that 1274 01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:40.119 I'm okay with that. 1275 01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:48.000 So we're doing Dark World next, all right, I guess 1276 01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:53.840 I just like so you guys all would if you're 1277 01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:55.599 given the choice, Let's say you have to go see 1278 01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:57.519 a new one in the movie or you guys see 1279 01:01:57.519 --> 01:01:59.840 one in the theaters. Again, you would pick Dark World. 1280 01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:01.480 I'd see any of them in the theaters. 1281 01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:03.760 But I'm saying if you had one, you would see 1282 01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:05.280 you would see Turtles over Dark World. 1283 01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:07.239 Yes, well. 1284 01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:12.039 From the from the quality of the movie, I'm gonna 1285 01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:16.400 say yes, from uh king alone, i will like I 1286 01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:19.199 think Eternals is a better made movie than Dark One, 1287 01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:23.360 but different, right, But Dark World is more fun and 1288 01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:26.239 got one of the biggest laughs out of me the 1289 01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:32.840 entire MCU when Loki switches to Captain America. And but 1290 01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:37.199 Dark World's more fun. But I think Eternals is better 1291 01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:40.800 made and three hundred more episodes. Will do it again. 1292 01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:42.440 But we'll do it from our favorites, not our. 1293 01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:46.159 Best, God, but how big that list? We may have 1294 01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:48.400 to do a couple of partners on that one. 1295 01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:51.920 Yeah, all right, thor the Dark World. I won't fight 1296 01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:53.639 you too. I'm not going to fight. I'm not going 1297 01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:54.800 to go to bat for thor. 1298 01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:57.000 Do you do you want e Turtles to be thirty five? 1299 01:02:58.079 --> 01:02:59.800 This list one more time? I feel like that, but 1300 01:02:59.880 --> 01:03:02.480 I just want to confirm what we got, because again 1301 01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:04.119 I'm not as big a hater as Love as Thunder 1302 01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:08.679 as other people. I think Eternals. I think Eturnals would 1303 01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:10.719 be next for me out of these ones that we have, 1304 01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:13.679 because we got rid of AMN three, we've got thor 1305 01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:15.880 Dark World and. 1306 01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:18.440 What else say about Love and Thunder? Like we say 1307 01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:21.320 fun movie people say oh, people say fun, I mean 1308 01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:25.199 it's bad like Love and Thunder. I think just got 1309 01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:29.519 way too lost in the silly for certain things that 1310 01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:33.400 didn't have to be as silly, you know, like I 1311 01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:37.920 love we got the moment of Jane as as thor 1312 01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:41.880 you know, I love that. I think that was great, 1313 01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:45.519 but then we kind of lose the side of Okay, 1314 01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:48.559 the cancer. It's just like wanted that to land a 1315 01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:50.840 little bit more, and then we get the whole you know. 1316 01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:54.960 The cancer did not hit as hard as it did 1317 01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:58.000 in the comic books and the story in which any 1318 01:03:58.039 --> 01:03:58.239 of this. 1319 01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:02.880 ISAs on they hit they they really. 1320 01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:08.159 Undersold the the harder emotional beats of it All. 1321 01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:13.719 And Christian Bale I thought did great as Gore, but 1322 01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:15.440 it was not as much as it could have been. 1323 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.480 I wasn't expecting Jason Aaron's full run of Gore the 1324 01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:21.159 God Butcher, but definitely could have been better. 1325 01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:23.480 So are you saying, are we saying thor the eleven 1326 01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:24.360 Thunder should be next? 1327 01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:27.519 I was just explaining a little bit more Thorder, Loan 1328 01:04:27.559 --> 01:04:29.320 and Thunder, So if you know you're not gonna have to, 1329 01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:32.440 you know I wouldn't put it next, But I'm fine 1330 01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:35.159 wherever we put it. That I just that one. I'm 1331 01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:39.239 the bottoms aren't necessarily going to worry me where we 1332 01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:39.639 put them. 1333 01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:44.639 Oh that's tough. I'm just trying to think. 1334 01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:47.639 I could even make a case for Iron Man two 1335 01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:48.199 going next. 1336 01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:53.199 Really, goddamn Turtles or Marbles. 1337 01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:56.000 You know, Snow really wants Eternals on this list. 1338 01:04:57.719 --> 01:05:00.159 Also, like you guys, the same thing won't be It's 1339 01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:02.719 hard on But for me, Black Widow also deserves somewhere 1340 01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:05.000 on this list. I know gives Florence Pugh, but that 1341 01:05:05.239 --> 01:05:08.639 movie is so vanilla and soul bland, and sure it's 1342 01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:11.639 always about adaptation or inspiration. Task Masaker either way you 1343 01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:14.119 want to. They just suck. 1344 01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.360 But they followed up it was task Master and Thunderbolts, 1345 01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:20.639 and she was pivotal to that movie. 1346 01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:25.280 How pivotal she was gone. 1347 01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:29.480 In the head. That one's just annoying because of it 1348 01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:33.039 just being almost a very similar copy to another one 1349 01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:35.480 and it being the first Black Widow movie just felt 1350 01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:36.519 a little uninspired. 1351 01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:40.440 But I do think I do think that, and it's 1352 01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:42.440 probably been long enough that it's not color of your view. 1353 01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:44.480 But when it came out, there was a lot of 1354 01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:47.119 talk of the way Black Widow was released between because 1355 01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:49.960 that is the only Marvel movie that did that Disney 1356 01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:52.519 Premier thing where you could buy it on Disney Plus 1357 01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:57.599 or go see it, and we I saw it both ways. Yeah, 1358 01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:01.320 bought it. I saw it, bought it on premiere Access. 1359 01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:02.920 My wife watched it and then wanted to go see 1360 01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:06.320 it in theaters after watching it at home. But I 1361 01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:11.239 really liked that movie. But it's it also is and 1362 01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.239 maybe this is colors my color is my view of 1363 01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:17.039 that movie. The other way, it had been like over 1364 01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:19.679 a year and a half, two years or whatever since 1365 01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:22.960 we had a Marvel movie. Yeah, because it was already 1366 01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:25.760 gonna be a year out between Far From Home and 1367 01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:28.719 the next movie was supposed to be a Black Widow. 1368 01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:31.840 Got it? Welcome back to the movie trailer, God that 1369 01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:33.280 hit that hit. 1370 01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:35.599 Home, Welcome back to the movie. Yeah, we watched it 1371 01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:39.280 at work and David, we were in that old conference room. 1372 01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:43.639 We watched it, and it's such a good trailer. But 1373 01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.000 I don't know, I feel like the whole black widow 1374 01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:49.199 thing is it weird? 1375 01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:49.360 One. 1376 01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:52.679 I would not put it in the next like couple, 1377 01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:57.480 but thirty thirty to thirty three I would be comfortable with. 1378 01:06:58.079 --> 01:06:58.760 Yeah, I could see that. 1379 01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:01.320 I would definitely say that. 1380 01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:03.679 He would say the same thing. 1381 01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:06.199 He would say the same thing and then this Hotel 1382 01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:09.480 Wi Fi bites him again, Bess was because. 1383 01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:11.360 That's probably I feel like all like even the like Okay, 1384 01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:13.599 quantamea thor Dark World of those were the easy too. 1385 01:07:13.679 --> 01:07:16.679 I feel like that's the thing with because like even 1386 01:07:17.119 --> 01:07:19.000 what you're talking about Chris with thor Love and Thunder, 1387 01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:20.480 And I'm not a big defender of like get the 1388 01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:23.400 comedy wise, but with commedy being so hard on that, 1389 01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:26.360 that's where it's very subjective, not the most subjective thing. 1390 01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:27.559 And maybe that's where it's like, if you have that 1391 01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:30.079 it's just like a popcorn fun time movie. That's where 1392 01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:31.079 like there's none of the like. 1393 01:07:31.159 --> 01:07:33.320 For me, just a movie you can turn your brain off, 1394 01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:33.679 you know. 1395 01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:36.639 I know, yeah that does. You can't actually do that, 1396 01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:38.679 it is it is physically possible to do that. 1397 01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:40.519 Yeah, it's funny. It feels like we all have one. 1398 01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:42.880 I feel like we're probably gonna agree a lot in 1399 01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:44.480 the middle of these, but feels like for our next 1400 01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:46.280 we all have ones a lot higher than others or 1401 01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:48.079 lower because like for me, it's eternals, but I feel 1402 01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:49.800 like you guys are higher on that. And then there's 1403 01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:52.320 like one like because even like I've put far from Home, 1404 01:07:52.360 --> 01:07:54.119 but I don't think far from Home is next. I 1405 01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:57.000 think it's like the higher echelon of this list. So 1406 01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:02.559 I'm not I'm not completely against love and Thunder being next. 1407 01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:05.159 I I'm looking at this list if it's kind of 1408 01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:08.880 a bit of a crossroads because I can have an 1409 01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:11.360 answer for it being there. You know where there's other ones. 1410 01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:13.360 You know, amen was I'm that's the same thing on 1411 01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:15.119 their verse Rhamad On that train, I had a really 1412 01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:17.600 good time, Amn a wasp, but I enjoyed it. So 1413 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:19.840 I'm like you with black Waddle Brent, where that would 1414 01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:22.000 be like higher up in the tier ranking for sure. 1415 01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:26.039 Let's put leven Thunder next. And I say that knowing 1416 01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:27.880 it's not my personal like it would not be my 1417 01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:32.880 personal place for it. But if we're talking quality of 1418 01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:36.560 how it was made of the movie versus you know, 1419 01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:39.000 was it fun? Did we enjoy it like that? Yeah, 1420 01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:43.359 I feel like I can make an argument that I 1421 01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:45.319 think I could argue Black Widow is a better made 1422 01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:48.239 movie than To and Love thor leven Thunder. I think 1423 01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:50.239 I can make the same argument for Amen and The Loss, 1424 01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:52.359 even though I had my issues with that movie too 1425 01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:56.880 that I can't quite quantify, Like so unless unless Chris 1426 01:08:56.960 --> 01:08:59.079 really puts Love and Thunder higher then. 1427 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:03.279 And again, some people give some a lot of hate 1428 01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:05.880 to that movie. I just I don't hate the movie. 1429 01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:06.680 I don't hate any of. 1430 01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:10.119 These movies, and it certainly does not match up to 1431 01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:11.640 its predecessor. 1432 01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:14.319 No, it doesn't. I just think that it went much 1433 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:18.800 more silly than I I Again, it's a subjective opinion, 1434 01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:21.279 but that movie, it was a movie that didn't need 1435 01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:22.920 to go that silly. 1436 01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:25.399 Yeah, And there's always gonna be a bottom, right if 1437 01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:27.479 you like them all like doesn't like, if you enjoy these, 1438 01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:29.560 you know, that's what we're doing today. So if we 1439 01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:31.479 are speaking then in that terms as far as the 1440 01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:34.119 filmmaking and as far as how it's constructed as a film, 1441 01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:37.840 also wait till Dave gets back in. But that I 1442 01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:41.039 feel I don't know which order, but to me, iron 1443 01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:43.760 Man two and Brave New World got to be somewhere 1444 01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:47.079 around there because I feel like both those have frankenstein 1445 01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:51.720 Ish type of vibes, Brave New World especially, And that's 1446 01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:54.800 a bit tougher too because iron Man two it wasn't 1447 01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:58.680 as popular, where like Walk with Me, there are the 1448 01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:02.159 online reports and every that changes nowadays is out there 1449 01:10:02.359 --> 01:10:05.319 within a couple months. There's this, there's that, deadlines sput 1450 01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:07.159 that out where iron Man two that's more stuff you 1451 01:10:07.319 --> 01:10:09.600 learn after like, oh yeah, we kind of rushed through that, 1452 01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:11.279 and we wanted to set up the Avengers and we 1453 01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:13.560 did X, Y and Z, and Favreau was done, like 1454 01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:15.520 that's why he didn't even because there was rumors he's 1455 01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:17.680 gonna direct Avengers, and after Ireland two he's like, you know, 1456 01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:19.279 I'm on at of here and he still stay on 1457 01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:21.039 a producer and actor, but as a director, I think 1458 01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:23.760 it really warmed down, so I feel those are in 1459 01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:27.239 the similar love and thunder vein. I think I personally 1460 01:10:27.239 --> 01:10:29.760 would go Brave New World next, and then Iron Man two. 1461 01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:31.600 I do enjoy Iron Man two more in Brave New 1462 01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:33.840 World as much as I actually really enjoy Harrison for 1463 01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:36.800 in that movie doesn't have much that I returned back 1464 01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:39.640 to where Ironman two still has, you know, the introduction, 1465 01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:42.000 introduction of Natash, which I think is she's good there. 1466 01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:45.479 We got Don Sheet on there, who is also good there. 1467 01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:50.119 You know, I'm a tasier deal with it, but yeah, exactly. Yeah, so, 1468 01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:54.520 and I think it's a I think there's still more 1469 01:10:54.560 --> 01:10:56.279 of a movie there, even though it feels like a 1470 01:10:56.319 --> 01:10:57.840 lot of set up at times, where Brave New World 1471 01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:01.840 sometimes really does feel like an episode, it does not 1472 01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:04.680 feel too complete. It definitely feels like, in my opinion, 1473 01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:06.880 they should have reworked it in Winter Soldier, the themes 1474 01:11:06.920 --> 01:11:11.199 they hit there had more of a theatrical, grandiose theme 1475 01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:13.239 than Brave New World, even though he got a massive hult. 1476 01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:17.239 Winter Soldiers just feels more in a theatrical sense. So 1477 01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:18.319 I would go Brave New World. 1478 01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:20.680 Yeah, I would agree with you on that and the 1479 01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:22.520 other thing was, and I said it during a review, 1480 01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:26.039 like I don't care about the Serpent Society. I love 1481 01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:29.680 Jean Carlo Esposito with I think he's a great he 1482 01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:31.920 does a good job in the movie. I have no 1483 01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:35.199 care about what this organization is. I have no connection 1484 01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:36.760 of what they're gonna do. I don't even consider it. 1485 01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:38.319 I'm a threat, you know. 1486 01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:40.680 Yeah, they're just to throw away people at the start 1487 01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:41.079 of the movie. 1488 01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:44.039 And that's what it is, a further knock against that movie. 1489 01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:46.319 It's like, I'm not saying you have to care about 1490 01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:48.119 everything about the villain. If I don't care about the 1491 01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:51.279 villain and just think they're mustache, really, then it's a waste. 1492 01:11:52.279 --> 01:11:54.880 Yeah, and he and s they had done with him 1493 01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:57.600 like what they did with Batrock de Leeper in The 1494 01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:00.000 Winter Soldier, where you only see him at the very beginning, 1495 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.000 and that's it. It almost would have worked better, correct 1496 01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:06.159 because then it's just it's that opening establishing. Let's give 1497 01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:08.560 you the fun action scene at the start with our 1498 01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:11.000 new our hero and his new status quo and stuff 1499 01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:14.000 like that show the show. Uh, well, at least what 1500 01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:16.439 to the movie going audience was the new costume because 1501 01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:18.960 let's be real, like, not everybody watched falcon in the 1502 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:22.039 Winter Soldier, but and for me, like the Captain America 1503 01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:27.800 sub franchise of the MCU, I adore that that that movie, 1504 01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:31.520 those those three movies plus Falcony the Winter Soldier, adore them. 1505 01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:34.680 But Brave New World I'm like, you are the red 1506 01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:37.239 headed step child other group. Like I hate to say it, 1507 01:12:37.399 --> 01:12:41.760 but it is. So let's put it in there. When 1508 01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:44.479 when David gets his computer fixed, you know, we'll give 1509 01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:48.199 him an opportunity to to weigh in. Yeah, he won't 1510 01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:50.479 mind if we fill in a couple of answers. 1511 01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:53.239 I feel like you'll look at these be like, Okay, 1512 01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:56.520 I can see he's not gonna push back. Yeah, Brave 1513 01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:58.920 Old War. Well, what was the put Brave Old War? 1514 01:12:59.439 --> 01:13:01.760 Brave Old I see a New World Order? I think 1515 01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:04.800 that's what I'm still the original name for it originally? Yeah, okay? 1516 01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:06.840 And then did we feel good about Iron Man two next? 1517 01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:07.479 Or is that still? 1518 01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:08.800 Yeah? 1519 01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:10.680 Okay? So we got those off the boards. 1520 01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:12.760 And that's stupid scene where he's sitting in a donut. 1521 01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:14.880 I don't know why. It just always sticks out to. 1522 01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:17.920 Me, sir, Can you please step out of the donut, 1523 01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:19.479 and I feel like. 1524 01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:22.079 These other wins all have had one of us talk 1525 01:13:22.399 --> 01:13:24.800 more kindly, like like you know, oh and then so 1526 01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:26.960 far for that Brent with Blackwold, Oh, I fight for 1527 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:31.039 that to be higher where Okay, is it Turtle's time? 1528 01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:33.359 Turn it? Even with iron Man too? 1529 01:13:33.399 --> 01:13:34.199 Is just like that. 1530 01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:36.159 I know they were trying to do Demon in the Bottle. 1531 01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:38.439 That wasn't a good version of Demon in the Bottle. No, 1532 01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:40.800 they should have Honestly, they should have done Demon in 1533 01:13:40.840 --> 01:13:41.239 the Bottle. 1534 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:42.920 Yeah, they should have done that, or they should just 1535 01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:46.520 went more fun high jinks with like connecting MCU, setting 1536 01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:48.000 up a venger, just make it. Oh, we're just gonna 1537 01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:49.920 have a fun time with Downey here. 1538 01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:52.279 But I will give him that fight at the end 1539 01:13:52.319 --> 01:13:55.520 with Ironman and war Machine back to back against all 1540 01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:58.640 the whatever things. Yeah, that was a question. I will 1541 01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:01.439 give him that for fun. C GI spectacle and. 1542 01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:02.920 We got an accurate war Machine. 1543 01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:04.600 Look, yes, you look great. 1544 01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:05.119 Yeah. 1545 01:14:05.720 --> 01:14:08.560 Uh so now we got Black Widow, the Marbles, the Eternals, 1546 01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:10.600 Ant Man and the Wasp and far from Home. 1547 01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:14.960 I'm going to vote Eternals. 1548 01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:15.960 It's time for a turn. 1549 01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:16.560 Yeah it is. 1550 01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:20.239 We're stuck around, stuck around for a hot minute. Now 1551 01:14:20.359 --> 01:14:22.000 you know it should have been a little lower. But 1552 01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:26.000 I do agree with Yeah, I do agree with breadth though, 1553 01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:27.520 like it is still a well made movie, and I 1554 01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:31.239 understood people that enjoyed it. It just wasn't my cup 1555 01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:34.000 of tea. But I also don't like that director's work. Really, 1556 01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:35.800 I don't like any of my stuff. Kloy Joe. She 1557 01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:38.039 makes beautiful looking films. 1558 01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:42.039 But I uh, it was a swing. They took a swing, and. 1559 01:14:42.119 --> 01:14:46.039 They now we're never getting any Celestials play another five years. 1560 01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:46.880 We're not gonna find it. 1561 01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:48.640 Are definitely not getting the Blade either. 1562 01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:54.119 One Blade going to belade Super Wars. 1563 01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:56.319 Marshall, he is going to be in there and people 1564 01:14:56.319 --> 01:14:57.760 are gonna love him. Telling you it's gonna happen. 1565 01:14:57.960 --> 01:14:59.680 This second Blade will be that guy who played him 1566 01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:00.319 in the Team You show. 1567 01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:03.159 That went from like, I stand by, I stand by 1568 01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:04.800 what I said in the chatter earlier today, you're gonna 1569 01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:06.840 get GTA six and seven before you get a new 1570 01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:12.239 Blade movie. You'll get the Blade video game before you 1571 01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:13.359 still get a Blade movie. 1572 01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:15.600 I don't know about that. I think that game would 1573 01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:18.880 be Yeah, we'll see, Okay. 1574 01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:23.800 Okay, we're in the area that I requested Black Widow 1575 01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:25.439 land in, so I don't care what you put it in. 1576 01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:29.159 Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with that too. 1577 01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:34.239 I I do feel these three other ones, uh like, yeah, 1578 01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:37.279 they're above Black Wido because at least I don't. And 1579 01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:39.199 none of them, to me are Oh this is a 1580 01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:42.239 lesser version of Blank. We're winning, that is Brave New 1581 01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:44.840 World and Black Widow to me are always they're trying 1582 01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:47.479 to be Winter Soldier and it's just not clicking. 1583 01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:50.880 It's not that I'll make a case that Far from 1584 01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:53.319 Home as the top of the bottom. 1585 01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:57.239 Sold I think I'll get out voted. I wouldn't agree, 1586 01:15:57.279 --> 01:15:58.000 but I'm fine too late. 1587 01:15:58.039 --> 01:15:59.279 What would you put I want? I want to hear it. 1588 01:15:59.319 --> 01:15:59.840 I'm not. 1589 01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:03.399 It's it's still Aunt Man of Loss to me. And 1590 01:16:03.560 --> 01:16:06.960 because of that reason of I you can still watch 1591 01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:09.960 that movie primarily by itself Far from Home. You can 1592 01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:10.840 not watch everything. 1593 01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:13.199 You're right, Okay, I see, I see what you're saying. 1594 01:16:13.279 --> 01:16:14.840 Yeah, I should be convinced. 1595 01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:16.359 I could be convinced on that, And. 1596 01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:18.279 Again that's what It's a little thing. But the whole 1597 01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:20.479 point of ant Man one is this relationship between the 1598 01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:23.199 father and the daughter and losing the wife and then 1599 01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:25.800 the whole story of two is we gotta find your mom, 1600 01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:27.800 we gotta find my wife. Where I said they set 1601 01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:29.479 up the whole not the whole thing, but to me, 1602 01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:31.239 I thought the ant mad thing was a big setup. 1603 01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:33.840 And that's just kind of it's mom or somewhere else. 1604 01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:36.600 And even like for a minor degree, when he comes 1605 01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:38.680 into Far from Home and he's like, oh, I gotta 1606 01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:40.720 get with m J and I gotta give her this gift. 1607 01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:43.279 What happened, I know, like school happened to be, like 1608 01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:45.479 what happened to be? He was in the Liz Allen 1609 01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:47.760 and they were just kind of friends. There's a lot 1610 01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:48.319 of missing. 1611 01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:49.439 But she did move away. 1612 01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:55.800 I mean, yeah, she strike that against me. For the record. Yeah, 1613 01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:59.520 she's gone, and she's got some spider man I don't know, 1614 01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:01.680 I don't know deal and her dad is the Vultar. 1615 01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:04.399 Yeah, yes, and that's gonna put a damper on the. 1616 01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:08.720 Releaseuses don't forget that Sony Universe of movies that died. 1617 01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:10.079 He's stuck over there. I don't forget. 1618 01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:13.960 God acknowledge that. Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. 1619 01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:16.880 Yeah, So that that's just my my pitch again. Nick 1620 01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:19.439 Fury also being a scroll. I think as it's gone 1621 01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:20.960 on now that's more of annoying now too. 1622 01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:25.119 Between that, You're right, yeah, you went on, Yeah, Convince. 1623 01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:27.399 Okay, that's that was my pitch. 1624 01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:30.479 I'm going to give this one to Dravis. He he 1625 01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:33.039 has sold me on it. I'm just gonna give the 1626 01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:36.159 shout out to like, what that's the coolest spiderstn scenes 1627 01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:36.800 we've ever seen? 1628 01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:40.880 And now reflecting on Far from Home with this, like 1629 01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:44.479 the scrolls, you know, Nick Fury and the leading scene, 1630 01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:45.279 Oh my god, that. 1631 01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:47.199 He Spiderson scene. 1632 01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:51.079 Man, it's strange that it just feels like I felt 1633 01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:53.720 we kind of got the gist that before because I 1634 01:17:53.720 --> 01:17:56.079 don't think Secret Invasion was announced by Far from Home error, 1635 01:17:56.239 --> 01:17:57.199 was it? I don't think so. 1636 01:17:57.479 --> 01:17:58.159 No, it wasn't. 1637 01:17:58.319 --> 01:17:59.560 So I felt we all thought like. 1638 01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:01.920 Oh from Home was added when they when Civil War 1639 01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:06.560 was announced, that the twenty fourteen announcement thing, it did 1640 01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:08.720 not it went all the way to Avengers in game, 1641 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:09.960 it did not go too far from Home. 1642 01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:12.640 And I feel like at that time I justified it 1643 01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:14.680 by going, oh, you know what, probably the next Avengers 1644 01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:18.039 movie that could be something really Secret Invasion scroll related. 1645 01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:20.479 Right now, then they pivot to the show. But I 1646 01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:22.920 think we all thought, oh, this is leading somewhere bigger 1647 01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:25.159 and then where it lead. And also it'd be different 1648 01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:27.279 if the project. 1649 01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:29.680 Was we thought it was leading into Sword and that, 1650 01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:33.119 which I know we didn't get Sword, but that could. 1651 01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:35.640 Have been the Avengers movie that is missing in this 1652 01:18:36.079 --> 01:18:41.079 like legitimately because because again it brings in the cosmic side, 1653 01:18:41.319 --> 01:18:44.159 it brings in the post endgame kind of what's going 1654 01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:45.680 on in the world, Who do we trust, what do 1655 01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:48.039 we do? How do we deal with this? Like that 1656 01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:51.600 was We've said it before. Not having an Avengers movie 1657 01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:54.800 until now was one of Marvel's biggest mistakes, and putting 1658 01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:57.640 Secret Invasion as a show was even bigger mistake. 1659 01:18:57.840 --> 01:18:59.479 And the other thing too is imagine you could have 1660 01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:02.640 characters that had blipped but didn't blip because scrawls were 1661 01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:04.279 posing out of them. So imagine that when you come 1662 01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:07.680 back and oh, no, you've been here a whole five years. No, 1663 01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:08.600 I haven't been here. 1664 01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:10.439 That was the perfect time for them to do. 1665 01:19:10.520 --> 01:19:13.640 It's like saying, no, yeah, right, I'll give this a 1666 01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:16.840 knock on far from Home. Well, I think I still 1667 01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:20.119 think it's a hilarious scene. The fact that That was 1668 01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:22.680 our next take on what happened with the blip, Like 1669 01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:27.880 we saw everyone agree, but we didn't like it. Hilarious 1670 01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:31.079 moment when those kids come blip back on the basketball court. 1671 01:19:32.560 --> 01:19:35.479 But I do wish we had seen. I wish at 1672 01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:39.199 some point we have seen. I still wish we had 1673 01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:41.880 a project more set firmly during the blip. 1674 01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:45.319 It feels it's such untapped potential. We still we never 1675 01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:47.800 got and did we won't? Yeah, we won't now And 1676 01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:49.680 isn't that was the perfect part for that, you know, 1677 01:19:49.800 --> 01:19:52.359 it could have been something and that's where to your point. 1678 01:19:52.399 --> 01:19:54.439 But that's the thing that bugs me too, is I 1679 01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:57.760 get it. It's fine, it's movies, but every main character 1680 01:19:57.800 --> 01:20:01.159 from Spider Man blipped, you know, and it's like Ned MJ. 1681 01:20:01.399 --> 01:20:03.680 There friends Aunt May so there's no stakes for them. 1682 01:20:04.039 --> 01:20:05.479 It's just Aunt made to be in the movie. Be like, 1683 01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:07.760 oh and I blipped in someone's apartment. They thought I 1684 01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:09.359 was having an affair with their husband and it's just 1685 01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:11.880 it's just a joke. But it's like, well, couldn't one 1686 01:20:11.920 --> 01:20:13.960 of those characters even because remember there was a time 1687 01:20:14.039 --> 01:20:16.279 I feel like something changed where we thought Anti Ma 1688 01:20:16.439 --> 01:20:18.159 didn't blip, but then they changed it so that she 1689 01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:19.920 did blip and that thing where it would have been great, 1690 01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:23.000 same thing of some motive something there with it, but 1691 01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:25.159 it was just very kind of off the side. So 1692 01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:29.119 but also to defend it, Mysterio's fantastic in that movie, 1693 01:20:29.159 --> 01:20:31.439 Love Monsterira, all the stuff. They are great visuals, that 1694 01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:34.680 whole sequence. Then Spiderman the snow globe. I wish he 1695 01:20:34.720 --> 01:20:37.319 wasn't dead. I'm always mad that John Hall only signed 1696 01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:40.279 up one movie deal. So and by proxy that makes 1697 01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:42.359 the Marvels twenty eight, I guess because we had that 1698 01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:44.560 hang around. So the Marvels, which you know, I'm actually 1699 01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:46.880 fine with because it's not like a It's not an 1700 01:20:46.920 --> 01:20:50.960 awful movie. Those three really like. I could make a 1701 01:20:51.039 --> 01:20:54.800 case that in these movies all down Below has nothing 1702 01:20:54.880 --> 01:20:57.439 as good, maybe the Mysterio stuff. So I might be 1703 01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:00.880 counting myself right, but those three together is a super 1704 01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:03.560 big highlight. Even in a very just kind of fine movie. 1705 01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:05.720 They are something that you want to see more of. 1706 01:21:06.279 --> 01:21:07.880 Like Eternals, I don't think we're gonna get to see 1707 01:21:07.920 --> 01:21:11.239 more of them together. I'm hoping Amon is in Doomsday 1708 01:21:11.319 --> 01:21:12.720 or Secret War. She didn't get a chair, and I 1709 01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:15.359 just feel like, I get it. Miss Marvel's low rated. 1710 01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:17.760 The Marvels don't do well, but a'mon and Miss Marvel 1711 01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:18.800 is such a perfect match. 1712 01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:21.159 She's she's gonna be in one of them. I'm very 1713 01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:24.840 confident she's somewhere. 1714 01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:29.039 My worry is like it's but I was hoping supporting character, 1715 01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:31.760 not just somewhere. I'm hoping it's not just you know 1716 01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:36.279 Roady in uh in Findy War where he has one 1717 01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:38.319 scene with Ross and that's it. Like I was hoping 1718 01:21:38.399 --> 01:21:40.680 she'd be a part of the squad. And I hope 1719 01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:42.079 I'm wrong. I hope that's the case. 1720 01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:46.359 But you know, the Marvels does have that really inventive 1721 01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:50.560 like early on action scene where they're all bouncing back 1722 01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:53.279 and forth between each other and they're different scenarios and 1723 01:21:54.079 --> 01:21:55.600 they don't know what's going on yet. Like that was 1724 01:21:55.600 --> 01:22:01.239 a really well constructed, well edited especially so yeah. 1725 01:22:01.119 --> 01:22:03.199 No, agreed. All right, we'll take our next ad break 1726 01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:06.039 before we start delving into the where does everyone thing 1727 01:22:06.159 --> 01:22:08.920 line in the middle. All right, so listeners, as you know, 1728 01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:11.079 these ads keep the lights on, the gigglesmin lines and 1729 01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:12.560 now we're gonna get choose at ads come on and 1730 01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:13.720 they could be a bit loud to give it that 1731 01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:16.520 three count before they come on three two one, We'll 1732 01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:22.319 be right back and we are back, all right, delving 1733 01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:24.239 in the middle. So David is still not back, but 1734 01:22:24.439 --> 01:22:26.279 he did say that this was going to be the 1735 01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:28.960 possibility he may not come back, but okay, we'll see. 1736 01:22:30.119 --> 01:22:36.079 Well, damn, I know, I was trying to look for 1737 01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:38.800 some funny thing. Now I got, I got, you know, 1738 01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:42.720 all right, are we trying to do like from eleven 1739 01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:43.880 down or twenty seven up? 1740 01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:48.479 Now that's it might just be call stuff out which 1741 01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:52.039 it's called. Yeah, for what it's worth, I personally would 1742 01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:56.279 put Wakana Forever, Shu Chee, and thor radyr Rock all 1743 01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:57.359 very high in this list. 1744 01:22:58.520 --> 01:22:59.920 There is Guardians three as well. 1745 01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:02.520 No argument, Yeah, no argument with the Guardians three. Yeah 1746 01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:05.640 that that that that is definitely I think I would 1747 01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:08.079 put Guardians too towards the bottom of the middle. 1748 01:23:08.840 --> 01:23:12.439 Except yeah, I'm a big defender. I'm maybe the only person. 1749 01:23:12.479 --> 01:23:14.640 I'm not the only person. I'm sure's others out there. 1750 01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:16.600 Like me, but I'm the only I'll defend it with you. 1751 01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:20.079 But no, I mean, I have it as my favorite 1752 01:23:20.079 --> 01:23:20.640 of the trilogy. 1753 01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:23.079 No never mind, I'm out No, that's what I mean. 1754 01:23:23.159 --> 01:23:25.760 Don't don't jump aboard yet. Don't jump aboard yet. 1755 01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:28.359 I think it's a great movie. Yeah, I do think 1756 01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:31.159 it's a great movie. I do think it's overheted. I 1757 01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:33.479 don't think it's anywhere near volumes one and three. 1758 01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:34.680 Correct. 1759 01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:37.039 Okay, so we got a lot of sequels, so fat. 1760 01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:38.600 That one shot sequence in volume three. 1761 01:23:39.880 --> 01:23:43.800 Love that that movie hit. I was not prepared for 1762 01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:45.199 that movie to hate as hard as it did. 1763 01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:49.119 It's that movie. I was so thankful they all survived. 1764 01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:51.840 Even if we never see them again, they're out there somewhere. 1765 01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:53.880 God, I still remember I had I was off the 1766 01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:56.640 grid for for a because I was out of country 1767 01:23:56.920 --> 01:24:00.159 at that point and having to I think that was as. 1768 01:24:00.279 --> 01:24:02.079 I think that was probably the first movie I missed 1769 01:24:02.680 --> 01:24:05.119 for major movie. I don't count Venom as I missed. 1770 01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:07.800 That doesn't count. I mean, yeah, no MCU movie. I 1771 01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:11.600 believe that is the Is that the only one you've missed? 1772 01:24:11.640 --> 01:24:14.600 I think that's the only one I've missed for released weekend? 1773 01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:17.119 Yeah, because we actually saw David and I saw that 1774 01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:19.520 early at an advanced screening with a friend of ours 1775 01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:21.479 from work, and then my wife went with us and 1776 01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:23.720 we were able to get into that one early. 1777 01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:26.359 What was the other two? I completely forgot we went off. 1778 01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:29.399 I have inste Ragnarok and shun Chi shunk She okay, 1779 01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:31.319 son right, okay, well kind of forever. 1780 01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:31.680 It's just. 1781 01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:40.000 That's in my top ten just because of everything that movie. 1782 01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:44.720 That movie is was all the warriors and everything like that, 1783 01:24:44.840 --> 01:24:48.199 and they still, despite everything, still land that movie and 1784 01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:51.239 was set up before we'll say it again Beset just 1785 01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:56.000 lands that that that I've given everything. 1786 01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:59.560 M yeah, I'm with you on that because I feel 1787 01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:03.560 like that movie has turned into very similar, similar to 1788 01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:06.760 like the better version of Love and Thunder as far 1789 01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:09.720 as like people defending it or really not liking it. Obviously, 1790 01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:11.359 there's lots of people that don't like it because it's 1791 01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:14.159 like a funeral movie, or there's the big camp of 1792 01:25:14.199 --> 01:25:16.720 people that hated it. They should have just recast. I 1793 01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:18.720 am a big defender of it. I'm fine with it 1794 01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:21.680 being super high. I also, you know this is tres 1795 01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:23.359 have told you. That's where you got to see Ryan 1796 01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:26.760 Cooler stretch those horror vibes when he did that boat scene, 1797 01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:28.239 when they all came up. That was when I was like, Okay, 1798 01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:29.359 this guy wants to make a horror movie, and I 1799 01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:32.199 guess what he did make an Academy War winning horror movie. 1800 01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:35.199 Not too long. But for me at this out of 1801 01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:37.720 these four, I guess because this is a clear one, 1802 01:25:37.720 --> 01:25:42.239 because it's even for better for me, Wakanda is I 1803 01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:44.720 have it at the top out of these four sure 1804 01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:47.079 for multitude of reason. 1805 01:25:47.239 --> 01:25:49.000 As good as it is, it's not as good as 1806 01:25:49.079 --> 01:25:51.119 it would have been originally. Like we all know that, 1807 01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:55.159 we all everybody knows that. But yeah, they they pulled 1808 01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:58.279 it off under impossible circumstances. 1809 01:25:57.680 --> 01:26:00.399 And that end sequence where we see to chill sun. 1810 01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:02.319 At that point, it's like, okay, you just set up 1811 01:26:02.319 --> 01:26:05.840 for the future of the possibility of carrying on a legacy. 1812 01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:08.760 And as someone who did not want the recast, I 1813 01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:10.319 was thankful for the route they took. 1814 01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:12.520 Yeah, yeah, no, and I was finally and now I'm 1815 01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:14.399 final that if we get there. And also Nay more 1816 01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:15.439 was great. I really enjoyed it. 1817 01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:17.319 Oh, I think he did agree that the whole attack 1818 01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:18.800 sequence on it, that's yes. 1819 01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:22.560 Perfect, It's been long enough. If they go if if 1820 01:26:22.600 --> 01:26:24.880 they do a full recast now or they just age 1821 01:26:25.039 --> 01:26:27.159 either way, like I'm okay with it. Now, but I 1822 01:26:27.319 --> 01:26:29.319 it was for me personally, it was too soon. 1823 01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:31.560 I also think, like I know, everyone has their takes, 1824 01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:33.920 but it's like again, it's their movie, and I think 1825 01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:35.720 it could have been too soon for that cast. You know, 1826 01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:37.600 I don't know if they wanted to do that right now, 1827 01:26:37.680 --> 01:26:40.159 and I think it it worked for and they took 1828 01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:43.520 big swings right. I was, you know, my spoilers, but 1829 01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:46.239 like I was super surprised Angela Bassett died in the movie. 1830 01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:48.039 I thought, no way, there's no way they're killing a 1831 01:26:48.119 --> 01:26:50.840 character like that. It's gonna be We're gonna do the 1832 01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:52.520 best I can. We're gonna play it safe. We're gonna 1833 01:26:52.520 --> 01:26:55.079 introduce Naymore. He's super cool. We got lots of cool 1834 01:26:55.119 --> 01:26:57.079 water stuff to do with them. But I still think, 1835 01:26:57.199 --> 01:26:59.760 just like the first one, it took massive swings. I 1836 01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:01.840 don't we had hit on the level the first one obviously, 1837 01:27:02.159 --> 01:27:04.119 but they also had a lot going on against it 1838 01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:06.880 because we've seen Dark Knight Rises, We've seen right and 1839 01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:08.840 to me, right skoy Walker is a lesser version of that, 1840 01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:12.279 right with Kerrie Fisher and I don't be smudge them 1841 01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:14.720 because what can you do? And they're just trying their 1842 01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:16.319 best with it, but I think this was a good 1843 01:27:16.399 --> 01:27:17.239 version of trying. 1844 01:27:17.079 --> 01:27:17.920 To move forward. 1845 01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:22.560 So okay, we've got Garden Street, Sungshi and Thwart Ragnarrock. 1846 01:27:25.159 --> 01:27:26.640 I think I got to a look at the list. 1847 01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:27.439 I'm not sure. 1848 01:27:29.399 --> 01:27:30.920 You guys know where I am in Sung Chi. So 1849 01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:32.640 it's gonna come down to you guys. Where you guys, 1850 01:27:32.680 --> 01:27:34.159 if you rate, if you both frank it really high, 1851 01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:36.600 then I got no problem putting up there. I still 1852 01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:39.159 like these other two. Again, I do not dislike Sung Chi. 1853 01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:42.359 It's just a tad overhyped. And I don't love that 1854 01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:45.439 third act once. Uh, when Wu goes away, I think 1855 01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:48.239 that movie starts to to tick. I would have taken 1856 01:27:48.279 --> 01:27:50.920 a much longer third act with when Wu versus the Dragon. 1857 01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:52.479 For me, that's where I'm always. 1858 01:27:52.359 --> 01:27:54.199 So it's at the last ten minutes you don't. 1859 01:27:54.119 --> 01:27:56.560 Like, yeah, because I feel like the whole movie is 1860 01:27:56.600 --> 01:28:00.439 building two more of that, And there's others up There's 1861 01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:05.079 like the who's the rate Razor fist everything with him Razor, 1862 01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:07.840 There's and that's it's like little stuff along the way 1863 01:28:07.960 --> 01:28:09.720 that it's not just that, but that's the big one 1864 01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:11.880 that I felt like that where the third act for 1865 01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:14.319 me a black panther. It feels like if T'Challa took 1866 01:28:14.359 --> 01:28:17.680 out Killmonger and then he fought a gigantic panther. That's 1867 01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:19.640 where some she's like some she was very close for 1868 01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:22.119 for me for singing those levels. But yeah, I think 1869 01:28:22.119 --> 01:28:25.119 even Trevor, he's a character I've like grown alike. Maybe 1870 01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:27.359 Treor's a bit too much in that movie. But you know, 1871 01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:30.640 I've one rand fantastic Trevor Morris. 1872 01:28:34.039 --> 01:28:36.439 Somewhere in my house. I have a stuffed animal of Morris. 1873 01:28:36.359 --> 01:28:41.520 Sol O Morris Trevor, Like, what Ben Kingsley? Why do 1874 01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:42.880 you have Ben Kingsley stuck? 1875 01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:43.079 Guy? 1876 01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:45.239 I can't defend that. Your mom fan's gone too far. 1877 01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:53.640 Look at my plush of Kingsley as Morris pass that 1878 01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:56.000 passes on both sides. 1879 01:28:56.560 --> 01:28:59.279 So we moved Guardians after Wakanda correct. 1880 01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:01.600 I said it was a few guys with these. 1881 01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:04.319 I'm good at the Guardians going next actual Conda. 1882 01:29:04.520 --> 01:29:07.199 That's fine, okay, I'll be I can me in the 1883 01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:09.520 middle where we go Guardians sung she thor. 1884 01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:13.640 Yeah, I even want to possibly put thunderbolts in that mix. 1885 01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:16.079 Now, Oh, I forgot about the bolts. 1886 01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:16.960 Yeah. 1887 01:29:17.079 --> 01:29:19.800 See, that's the thing where I want I think after Guardians, 1888 01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:20.880 I want to put Thunderbolts. 1889 01:29:22.279 --> 01:29:27.199 God, Thunderbolts was really good, like Justice my one knock 1890 01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:32.600 or My biggest knock. When the hell did Bucky get 1891 01:29:32.640 --> 01:29:37.000 into freaking Congress, Like it's in between Brave New World 1892 01:29:37.079 --> 01:29:39.680 and no he well, yeah, because he was running for 1893 01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:43.520 the world. But yeah, like that storyline is out of nowhere. 1894 01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:46.960 It is, that's not it's not a bad knock. 1895 01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:49.079 It's in the in the world. Then I can believe 1896 01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:51.000 that they just be like, oh, sure, this guy who 1897 01:29:51.079 --> 01:29:54.319 assassinated maybe thousands of people, he's run for office now. 1898 01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:57.520 And it is a good movie though, and it's different. 1899 01:29:57.560 --> 01:29:59.560 The villain is different because the villain is basically mental 1900 01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:02.880 health supposed to like they don't win with you know, 1901 01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:05.359 overcoming the dragon or whatever. 1902 01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:05.920 You know that. 1903 01:30:06.239 --> 01:30:07.880 Yeah, so it's a hug. 1904 01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:11.399 It's right, the power of you know love. I guess 1905 01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:13.239 the Caramet stare wins in the. 1906 01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:16.399 Hey, you know what the the end credit song come 1907 01:30:16.439 --> 01:30:18.800 on Starship Perfect. 1908 01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:21.159 Yeah, No, I am in with Chris. I forgot about 1909 01:30:21.159 --> 01:30:22.760 the Bolts. I would put the Bolts over. 1910 01:30:23.239 --> 01:30:28.279 Under get them up there Underbolts, And I know David 1911 01:30:28.359 --> 01:30:29.079 was a big fan of it. 1912 01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:32.119 And then what sung she and thor that sound good? 1913 01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:37.279 Next list, just seeing if there's anything else that could land. 1914 01:30:37.479 --> 01:30:39.439 There is one. I'm very I'm not gonna say it 1915 01:30:39.439 --> 01:30:41.600 because I don't anything. I'm surprised that I say it yet. No, 1916 01:30:41.640 --> 01:30:42.640 I don't want to say it. I don't want to 1917 01:30:42.680 --> 01:30:43.199 come up yet. 1918 01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:48.960 Oh okay, okay, you keep your secrets then, but. 1919 01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:52.880 I mean some of it. Remember like that there's at 1920 01:30:52.960 --> 01:30:54.920 least one on this list. There's two on this list 1921 01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:59.039 that me personally, I would have way higher. But that's 1922 01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:02.760 what it's about. Compromise. It's about compromise. 1923 01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:06.000 I say, I say, put it up there right now. 1924 01:31:06.079 --> 01:31:08.000 I think we might end up revisiting. 1925 01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:11.760 Okay, yeah, this is one that I'll throw it now 1926 01:31:11.840 --> 01:31:15.359 where I This is another one I feel like came 1927 01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:17.399 at last year. It's very kind of all over the 1928 01:31:17.439 --> 01:31:20.239 place with people. I'm a massive and I do not 1929 01:31:20.479 --> 01:31:23.840 like really they're fine. I'm not a big F four guy. 1930 01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:26.840 I love that movie. I would have that under the bolts. 1931 01:31:26.840 --> 01:31:28.399 But I understand because there's a lot of other people 1932 01:31:28.439 --> 01:31:30.239 that don't a lot of people think it's kind of 1933 01:31:30.319 --> 01:31:32.399 like an ok MCU movie. It feels like it's like 1934 01:31:32.439 --> 01:31:34.279 a small division type of movie. 1935 01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:36.600 But it sure did some great stuff in it. 1936 01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:44.159 Yeah, I think there's some nailed Yeah, Galactus itself is great, 1937 01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:47.640 you know, c Baby aside thematically that stuff is great. 1938 01:31:47.640 --> 01:31:51.359 There's not too many marriage storylines in the MC like 1939 01:31:51.560 --> 01:31:54.600 that that bring an actual good weight to what's the problem. 1940 01:31:54.800 --> 01:31:54.960 You know. 1941 01:31:55.159 --> 01:31:58.239 So here's here's what. Here's two I'll put up next 1942 01:31:59.319 --> 01:32:05.560 help Incredible Hulk, Doctor Strange, Multiverse and Madness. And the 1943 01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:10.199 only reason I'll put Multiverse and Madness above Incredible Hulk 1944 01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:13.479 is just and this is a big if and this 1945 01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:17.279 is going on, what is getting ready to happen, is 1946 01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:20.920 just the impact of what Multiverse Madness put out there 1947 01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:24.079 and what it's leading to Doomsday and secret wars over 1948 01:32:24.199 --> 01:32:24.920 Incredible Hulk. 1949 01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:26.319 Hmm. 1950 01:32:27.319 --> 01:32:29.279 That's but again, that's something we don't know. So I'm 1951 01:32:29.279 --> 01:32:30.359 putting something out there that we. 1952 01:32:30.680 --> 01:32:31.960 Argument I do not accept. 1953 01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:34.039 That's fun. You don't have to accept it. I just 1954 01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:34.600 put it out there. 1955 01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:36.640 It'd be nice if it worked out that way. But 1956 01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:39.960 if we're honest, they're followed through this space the last 1957 01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:43.479 couple of NI I accept that hasn't been as strong, 1958 01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:46.159 which is a kind way to put it. 1959 01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:48.119 And now I'm just trying to think, like if it's 1960 01:32:48.199 --> 01:32:51.520 for like better movie incredible and I'm not even saying 1961 01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:54.359 this is next, just like Incredible Hole versus Multiverse of Madness. 1962 01:32:54.359 --> 01:32:56.760 I'm just trying to think, because. 1963 01:32:56.600 --> 01:32:58.640 If it's not ignoring the installage debate of what they 1964 01:32:58.680 --> 01:32:59.840 bring in the cameos, that's not that. 1965 01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:01.800 I think he's in a different. 1966 01:33:01.600 --> 01:33:04.560 Way to I forgot about. Yeah, like that, I was 1967 01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:07.199 thinking of like the music, battle sequence and stuff. Well, 1968 01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:09.279 it's inventive and it's different. 1969 01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:12.640 And I'm a Sam Raimi fan, so yeah, I think 1970 01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:17.359 in a favorite strange Yeah, I prefer multiverse mentas in 1971 01:33:17.399 --> 01:33:19.640 the Favorite Realm, but I think with the arc that 1972 01:33:19.760 --> 01:33:22.000 Norton goes on in the movie, Hulk is better. 1973 01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:23.600 Also, I'm not saying one of these is next, but 1974 01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:26.600 I think Hulk, I think is a better movie than 1975 01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:30.520 U gave us the best version of Hulk still yet 1976 01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:32.720 I will go by he's a discovery man. 1977 01:33:33.039 --> 01:33:35.880 That does Hulk come before? Like does Help come after 1978 01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:39.199 Thunderbolts above shunk Chi and the Ragnarok. 1979 01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:42.119 That's tough because we still got there's I'm going to 1980 01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:45.039 bring up to Captain America the first Avender. Yeah, if 1981 01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:50.119 we if we're we're gonna start talking Hulk conceivably next 1982 01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:52.920 then I'm like, yeah, I gotta say something at this point. 1983 01:33:53.319 --> 01:33:56.159 And the same with Spider Ma and Homecoming Captain America. 1984 01:33:56.199 --> 01:33:58.079 The First Avenger, I think is a fantastic telling of 1985 01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:01.560 his his origin story The Red School. My only knock 1986 01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:03.520 on the Red Skull is Hugo eaven wouldn't come back, 1987 01:34:03.560 --> 01:34:05.840 which is maybe not a fair knock against that movie. 1988 01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:08.680 And I love the way that Bucky was handled. And 1989 01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:12.159 I like the twist of Bucky and Cap knowing each 1990 01:34:12.159 --> 01:34:14.960 other before the war, and my twist isn't the right phrase. 1991 01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:17.439 I like the difference from the comic scnon of Bucky 1992 01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:19.640 and a cat and knowing it. Yeah he's not He's 1993 01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:22.079 not a kid. He Bucky is not Robin in the 1994 01:34:22.479 --> 01:34:24.359 in d MCU the way he. 1995 01:34:24.479 --> 01:34:27.159 Is a metics. No one's gonna say it, but like, 1996 01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:30.279 sometimes some things are for the best, and that that 1997 01:34:30.439 --> 01:34:33.079 worked back then. But I feel like like what Brent's 1998 01:34:33.079 --> 01:34:36.920 alluding to is much better as his patriot, you know, 1999 01:34:37.039 --> 01:34:38.680 like what is the contemporary in that? 2000 01:34:38.840 --> 01:34:42.039 Yeah, And then as far as Spider Man, Homecoming goes 2001 01:34:42.880 --> 01:34:49.720 the Vulture a full Spider Man movie in Marvel Studios. Like, yes, 2002 01:34:49.840 --> 01:34:53.680 I enjoyed the Iron Man cameos in it, but just 2003 01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:57.199 seeing the way Spider Man would deal with how you 2004 01:34:57.239 --> 01:34:59.720 would get around like in Queens and stuff like that 2005 01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:02.439 when there wasn't as much to swing off of like 2006 01:35:03.319 --> 01:35:06.840 we actually saw it. So I'm not saying they have 2007 01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:09.479 to be next, but if we're gonna bring up like 2008 01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:11.920 The Incredible Hulk, I got to bring up those two movies. 2009 01:35:12.279 --> 01:35:14.119 So so far, the ones we brought up in just 2010 01:35:14.199 --> 01:35:18.399 the stream of Consciousness is CAP One, Hulk, F four, 2011 01:35:18.920 --> 01:35:22.840 Doctor Strange, Multiverse of Madness, and I think and Homecoming 2012 01:35:23.159 --> 01:35:24.840 those are the five. And I kind of agree from 2013 01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:28.359 this list, what's left for people? I guess that if 2014 01:35:28.399 --> 01:35:31.279 you don't add a visual I have. We have Incredible Hulk, 2015 01:35:31.359 --> 01:35:33.279 The War, Captain America for as Avenger, I'm in three, 2016 01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:37.359 Age of altront Ant Man, Doctor Strange, Karen's Galaxy two, Homecoming, 2017 01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:40.359 Captain Marvel, Multiverse Madness, and F four. I think the 2018 01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:42.960 five that we just talked about Cap One, Hulk, F four, 2019 01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:46.239 Doctor Versus Molon, Doctor Verse, Doctor Strange, multivers A, Madness 2020 01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:47.880 in My mad and then Homecoming. I think those are 2021 01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:50.720 the five stronger from this list. Is there any down 2022 01:35:50.840 --> 01:35:52.920 that we haven't talked that you would include in this 2023 01:35:53.079 --> 01:35:54.880 next batch for you guys. 2024 01:35:55.199 --> 01:35:58.439 No, I think the ones that are left have are 2025 01:35:58.640 --> 01:36:00.800 definitely lower and different rates for different reasons. 2026 01:36:01.159 --> 01:36:01.359 Yeah. 2027 01:36:01.720 --> 01:36:03.159 I think, well, it's even hard you want to. 2028 01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:05.399 Make your argument for Guardians wanting two. 2029 01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:08.119 No, I feel like I'm more what about it? Like, 2030 01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:10.720 look at that one, I understand. 2031 01:36:10.359 --> 01:36:12.680 Here's the other thing. Even putting the original Thor on there, 2032 01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:16.000 I think that's the strongest of what we haven't named yet. 2033 01:36:17.720 --> 01:36:20.640 I mostly would agree. Other than me being a big 2034 01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:24.720 Guardians defender, I love that first thor a lot. I 2035 01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:27.159 wish we did stick that way a little bit. I 2036 01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:28.800 guess they did with Dark Worll. That just wasn't the 2037 01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:31.920 best executed. But yeah, I could put the ward next 2038 01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:34.479 to the ball. Yeah. I think I might be with 2039 01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:36.960 Brent because even though the favorites, I think cap One 2040 01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:38.800 would like I don't know if he was pitching it next, 2041 01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:42.640 I would be fine with cap One next. I know 2042 01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:44.159 there's a lot of people that love that movie. It 2043 01:36:44.439 --> 01:36:47.920 created a different era and five for the MCU in 2044 01:36:48.119 --> 01:36:49.960 just like doing a period piece, which they didn't have 2045 01:36:50.039 --> 01:36:51.560 to right they could just skip ahead and found in 2046 01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:52.279 the block place. 2047 01:36:52.680 --> 01:36:52.840 Well. 2048 01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:55.239 They also put had a perfect director in the I'm 2049 01:36:55.239 --> 01:36:57.520 a huge fan of the Rocketeer. This was the perfect 2050 01:36:57.520 --> 01:37:01.199 director for this of what you get so much rocket 2051 01:37:01.239 --> 01:37:01.920 to your vibes from. 2052 01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:04.920 It's like a doctor Strange. It's a good match of 2053 01:37:05.079 --> 01:37:06.640 director and character and story. 2054 01:37:07.039 --> 01:37:09.800 Mm hmm. Yeah. I could to say Cap next, I'm 2055 01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:10.119 good with that. 2056 01:37:10.880 --> 01:37:13.800 Okay, I just just seem to seeing my personal rings. 2057 01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:18.840 I've just seen Okay, Cap next and everyone find Cat. Yeah, okay, 2058 01:37:19.199 --> 01:37:22.159 Cap going there. I guess I was just seeing Cap 2059 01:37:22.279 --> 01:37:24.239 under throw Ragnrock, and I was just questioning myself if 2060 01:37:24.279 --> 01:37:26.920 I agreed with Cap being under throw rag Rock. We 2061 01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:29.359 can always return that another time, but I'll put it 2062 01:37:29.439 --> 01:37:31.720 there in America first. 2063 01:37:31.520 --> 01:37:33.079 Avenger I would put. 2064 01:37:33.159 --> 01:37:35.079 I would put Cap above Ragnarok. 2065 01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:41.199 I I would now, I think when at first when 2066 01:37:41.359 --> 01:37:44.479 they first came out, didn't Captain America has age better 2067 01:37:44.760 --> 01:37:48.279 for me than Ragnarok. But I'm not like also like 2068 01:37:48.520 --> 01:37:53.119 gonna fight tooth and nail if also we don't have Damier. 2069 01:37:53.159 --> 01:37:55.079 But Brent, how do you feel about those two? Do 2070 01:37:55.159 --> 01:37:57.119 you feel happy with that? Raki a thor over. 2071 01:37:57.039 --> 01:37:59.760 Captain I'm okay with it. I personally would swap them. 2072 01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:03.720 Let's swap them, okay, so we'll swap them, okay. 2073 01:38:04.920 --> 01:38:06.800 And I don't know how David would feel about those 2074 01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:07.920 two movies dated. 2075 01:38:08.359 --> 01:38:11.479 I'm sorry, David, he's seen this. 2076 01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:14.439 No, I hate Oh God, what are you doing? What 2077 01:38:14.560 --> 01:38:14.920 do they do? 2078 01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:18.159 No? 2079 01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:20.920 Hard, I've worked for this, the. 2080 01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:28.199 Next four, F four, Hulk, multivers Madness, Homecoming, and the 2081 01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:34.720 wor I guess we have that there. Hm hmm. He's 2082 01:38:34.720 --> 01:38:36.960 a tricky I feel like they're all in the ballpark. 2083 01:38:37.439 --> 01:38:39.600 I'm debating Homecoming in Hulk right now. 2084 01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:46.800 I'm with you on the Hulk. I'm a Hulk. F 2085 01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:48.199 four guy, that's where I am. 2086 01:38:48.560 --> 01:38:54.079 Okay, I was more uh F four Spider Man. 2087 01:38:56.199 --> 01:38:57.640 Okay, So that's the next three. 2088 01:38:57.960 --> 01:39:00.279 If we know that those aren't there? 2089 01:39:01.119 --> 01:39:06.159 Four Homecoming, yeah, and then F four at next Okay, 2090 01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:09.720 So I got Hulk, we got we. 2091 01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:16.640 Can let Hulk go first. Just throw Edward Norton a bone. Well, 2092 01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:18.680 I would put it at the bottom of ian. I 2093 01:39:18.760 --> 01:39:19.920 did really enjoy that movie. 2094 01:39:20.079 --> 01:39:20.479 I still have. 2095 01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:25.199 They finally landed Fantastic four with what had been missing 2096 01:39:25.359 --> 01:39:27.600 for so long. I mean, check out our retro reviews. 2097 01:39:28.119 --> 01:39:32.840 God, you know, and that's that's some of that's very 2098 01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:35.479 similar Captain America thing, where they have that vibe and aesthetic. 2099 01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:37.119 They did it very well. You can argue that's what 2100 01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:37.920 they're kind of riffing on. 2101 01:39:38.039 --> 01:39:40.119 But but that's what they should have done. That was 2102 01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:42.199 like the perfect way. Let's let's just put them back 2103 01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:44.680 to with the air they were created in. That was 2104 01:39:45.039 --> 01:39:46.199 a good move and it worked. 2105 01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:50.199 Okay, So now the last we had was Doctor Strange, 2106 01:39:50.279 --> 01:39:52.760 Multiverse Madness or Thor. 2107 01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:54.119 Hm hmm. 2108 01:39:56.520 --> 01:39:59.039 Again, I think I like Multiverse Madness war, but I 2109 01:39:59.079 --> 01:40:04.159 think thor is it's better film. I think, even though 2110 01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:06.640 people want to, I get it. We had to string 2111 01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:09.800 on very bad stuff in the first phase. They delivered Loki, 2112 01:40:09.840 --> 01:40:11.960 who is an amazing film. I'm not even telling Avengers. 2113 01:40:12.239 --> 01:40:14.760 He is amazing in Thor. That arc that he has 2114 01:40:14.920 --> 01:40:18.520 with Anthony Hopkins and his brother, that alone, I think. 2115 01:40:18.520 --> 01:40:22.760 Yeah, maybe the impact to your point of Loki, Yes, 2116 01:40:23.159 --> 01:40:26.359 that that that that puts it above Doctors Strange and 2117 01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:27.239 Multiverse Madness. 2118 01:40:27.720 --> 01:40:31.960 Yeah, okay, twenty oh we got I mean. 2119 01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:34.039 For kind of taking the villain and making him one 2120 01:40:34.079 --> 01:40:36.279 of the turning him basically where he's at right now 2121 01:40:36.439 --> 01:40:37.159 is a hero. 2122 01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:40.880 And it was believable too, the arc that gave him 2123 01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:44.800 in Thor, the reason he would be turning right so okay. 2124 01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:47.279 And the payoff for how he ends that movie, the 2125 01:40:47.359 --> 01:40:51.560 payoff of that line. Yeah, to to Loki season two, 2126 01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:53.359 come on, Okay. 2127 01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:56.880 So now we're down to the final sixth year Iron 2128 01:40:56.960 --> 01:41:02.199 Man three age of Aul Tromp, an Man, Doc Strange, Guardian, Guardians, 2129 01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:12.920 Galaxy Volunteer, and Captain Marvel. Hmm, these are tough. These 2130 01:41:12.960 --> 01:41:15.319 are all similar. I think they're similar, like have highlights, 2131 01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:18.880 good stuff, good performances, but also not like none of 2132 01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:21.239 these other than I guess yeah, for me, it's Guardian, 2133 01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:22.880 but I know there's other people that have it lower. 2134 01:41:23.239 --> 01:41:25.680 Taking that out of my bias there none of these 2135 01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:29.479 are ones that I'm constantly I gotta watch this one. 2136 01:41:29.520 --> 01:41:32.039 You know, I've watched all these movies multiple times, but 2137 01:41:32.199 --> 01:41:34.319 none of them are the go tos, like you know, 2138 01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:37.600 like a even f four Thunderbolts will be, or like 2139 01:41:37.640 --> 01:41:39.760 a multi Verse a Madness, or like an Incredible Hole. 2140 01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:42.560 I would almost say next is the original Doctor Strange 2141 01:41:42.880 --> 01:41:43.600 out of this group. 2142 01:41:44.479 --> 01:41:49.279 I think you're right. I don't know you're right, but 2143 01:41:49.319 --> 01:41:49.960 I think you're right. 2144 01:41:54.960 --> 01:41:57.479 Yeah, that's fine. Doctor Strange works. 2145 01:41:58.760 --> 01:42:01.439 So Doctor Strange and NOx Strange two at twenty one 2146 01:42:01.600 --> 01:42:04.439 twenty two, so they got they got that little area 2147 01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:11.079 carved out in the MCU. Okay, so Strange is gone. Yeah, 2148 01:42:11.239 --> 01:42:14.880 that's out of here. So now I feel like you 2149 01:42:15.039 --> 01:42:19.840 have kind of two safe movies with an captain Marvel. 2150 01:42:19.920 --> 01:42:22.000 You have two movies, iron Man three and Age of 2151 01:42:22.079 --> 01:42:24.920 Ultron that are very debated upon because they know people 2152 01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:26.920 that love iron Man three, right, and I know people 2153 01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:29.840 that hate iron Yeah, And I think Gardens is like 2154 01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:31.680 right in the middle where it's kind of looked at. 2155 01:42:31.680 --> 01:42:33.560 It's like for most people, not me, but most people like, oh, 2156 01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:34.760 it's like the lesser sql. 2157 01:42:35.199 --> 01:42:38.199 What I what I always say I love about Iron 2158 01:42:38.279 --> 01:42:42.079 Man three, and this is what it. I compare it 2159 01:42:42.119 --> 01:42:45.159 a little bit to Thunderbolts. It's like, we get a 2160 01:42:45.359 --> 01:42:49.319 movie that deals with, yes, Tony dealing with something that 2161 01:42:49.560 --> 01:42:52.520 literally he died and he's trying to deal with everything. 2162 01:42:52.920 --> 01:42:55.520 That's the biggest thing I enjoy about that movie is 2163 01:42:55.880 --> 01:42:58.920 delving into how does a hero deal with what just happened. 2164 01:42:59.359 --> 01:43:01.199 It's not demon the battle, but it's more down the 2165 01:43:01.239 --> 01:43:04.039 bottle than an iron you know, like it's hitting more 2166 01:43:04.079 --> 01:43:04.600 in those themes. 2167 01:43:04.640 --> 01:43:07.239 With the character development is what I love about that movie. 2168 01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:10.760 And while I do between what we have left, Age 2169 01:43:10.760 --> 01:43:13.199 of Ultron is my favorite out of them. But I 2170 01:43:13.359 --> 01:43:16.039 understand why it's polarized and I understand why people have 2171 01:43:16.119 --> 01:43:18.920 their knocks against it. Iron Man three does have Trevor, 2172 01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:21.000 and I do think Trevor is hilarious. 2173 01:43:22.159 --> 01:43:25.199 I will never see him coming, but. 2174 01:43:25.239 --> 01:43:33.399 I'm I'm a guy that I like all kidding aside, 2175 01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:35.960 like I was like the Mandarin at the time, like 2176 01:43:36.560 --> 01:43:38.600 the Mandarin from the comics, who was the Iron Man 2177 01:43:39.319 --> 01:43:43.560 like villain was never gonna work. No, it was never bad. 2178 01:43:44.039 --> 01:43:47.159 It hasn't been to the seven of you out there. 2179 01:43:47.439 --> 01:43:52.000 He's not anybody's favorite character, no, And so I thought 2180 01:43:52.039 --> 01:43:55.600 it was a fantastic twist on the Mandarin. I loved it. 2181 01:43:56.119 --> 01:43:58.239 I can. I can understand other things where Peoter, like 2182 01:43:58.319 --> 01:43:59.960 why is Tony Hanel with a kid for twenty five? 2183 01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:01.880 I can go, Okay, yeah, this is my favorite thing 2184 01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:04.000 either right or it kind of goes nowhere. I get 2185 01:44:04.039 --> 01:44:06.279 other people hate that he's barely in the suit. Not 2186 01:44:06.439 --> 01:44:08.439 a thing for me, but I'm I'm fine. Iron in 2187 01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:11.920 three here for that arc at twenty three. I am 2188 01:44:11.960 --> 01:44:15.359 in three at twenty three. Yeah, okay, I'm luck three. 2189 01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:17.680 We're down to our final four. 2190 01:44:19.640 --> 01:44:22.479 Of not the best, definitely not the worst, but not 2191 01:44:22.600 --> 01:44:23.279 the best. 2192 01:44:24.439 --> 01:44:26.319 Mile four spots not. 2193 01:44:27.199 --> 01:44:35.760 Yes, sorry, yeah, duking it out. My pitch is Guardians, Ultron, 2194 01:44:35.960 --> 01:44:39.520 and Man Cat Marvel. That's where I am Guardians. I 2195 01:44:39.640 --> 01:44:43.319 think still I'll take Ego and Kurt Russell over Ultron 2196 01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:46.119 as far as the villain arcs there, I'm with Brent 2197 01:44:46.239 --> 01:44:48.520 that I think Ultron is a little over hated, But 2198 01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:51.159 I also don't think it's like deserves like a like 2199 01:44:51.199 --> 01:44:53.239 a gold star or anything. Right, it does feel like, okay, 2200 01:44:53.319 --> 01:44:56.359 that's very much like what people say about Gardians, the 2201 01:44:56.840 --> 01:45:00.359 lesser of the two, right, Ultron and I'd say almost 2202 01:45:00.479 --> 01:45:04.239 most rankings, if you pulled most Marvel fans of the 2203 01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:08.319 Marvel Avengers movies, that's always at the bottom, right, it is, 2204 01:45:08.840 --> 01:45:10.720 it's like a collection of the three, but then the fourth. 2205 01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:13.760 So I just say with Guardians, there's some other stuff there. 2206 01:45:13.880 --> 01:45:16.159 The yawned like, I don't think Altron is anything as 2207 01:45:16.199 --> 01:45:18.600 good as the Yond funeral on the sendoff for that 2208 01:45:18.720 --> 01:45:21.279 character of so I wasn't your daddy, but I was 2209 01:45:21.319 --> 01:45:23.920 your father, whatever he said, and then the music like 2210 01:45:24.039 --> 01:45:25.960 fathers and Son playing at the end and when crying 2211 01:45:26.000 --> 01:45:30.039 the fireworks good more hill my mom. Oh yeah. And 2212 01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:32.800 again that's why I hate everybody when they hate on 2213 01:45:32.920 --> 01:45:35.760 star Lord. They set that up. He did the same 2214 01:45:35.840 --> 01:45:38.239 thing in Guardians Too. What's the first thing he did. 2215 01:45:38.439 --> 01:45:40.359 He shot his dad in the head twice. They just 2216 01:45:40.359 --> 01:45:43.039 didn't kill him. They set up that character to freak out. 2217 01:45:43.239 --> 01:45:45.840 That's what he does. So that was perfectly in line. People. 2218 01:45:46.039 --> 01:45:49.000 That's a really good point. But everyone misses that stupid 2219 01:45:49.079 --> 01:45:51.800 glove was coming off a Thano's head and then he 2220 01:45:51.920 --> 01:45:54.439 snapped out of it. Yeah, I'm not even convinced it 2221 01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:57.000 was star Lord who snapped him out of it. That 2222 01:45:57.159 --> 01:46:00.199 glove was coming off his hands. Peter was pulling the glove. 2223 01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:07.000 Of I blame the scrolls, Parker. Look, you know the scrolls. 2224 01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:08.760 That wasn't Fantos, That was scroll Fantos. 2225 01:46:08.840 --> 01:46:09.920 But I exactly love that. 2226 01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:12.279 Point that they set it up in Guardians Too though, 2227 01:46:12.600 --> 01:46:15.920 of his reat when he when his loved one is killed. Yeah, 2228 01:46:16.119 --> 01:46:18.760 and I love that. That's a great point that I 2229 01:46:18.960 --> 01:46:20.680 honestly never considered. 2230 01:46:20.439 --> 01:46:23.319 He's he's a hothead. He's he's kind of airheading in 2231 01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:24.319 that way he is. 2232 01:46:24.600 --> 01:46:25.960 I don't think anyone doubts he's not an a. 2233 01:46:26.439 --> 01:46:28.520 Yeah he's, but he's literally the heart on his sleeve 2234 01:46:28.640 --> 01:46:29.359 type of character. 2235 01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:32.159 He's from Missouri, is. 2236 01:46:33.800 --> 01:46:33.920 Uh. 2237 01:46:34.279 --> 01:46:36.279 That's my pitch for Guardians over age of Ultron that 2238 01:46:36.399 --> 01:46:39.119 I think movie quality similar, but I think they just 2239 01:46:39.199 --> 01:46:42.600 have bigger moments in Guardians that kind of pay for 2240 01:46:42.760 --> 01:46:44.960 We're Agent Ultron. I don't think anyone's talking about any 2241 01:46:45.359 --> 01:46:48.520 thing like the yondw fun roll or ego, like even 2242 01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:50.079 the planet right, you know. 2243 01:46:50.319 --> 01:46:52.079 So it'll be interesting to see what we get with 2244 01:46:52.199 --> 01:46:52.800 Vision Quest. 2245 01:46:53.680 --> 01:46:57.560 Yes, that's gonna be I I could see that show 2246 01:46:57.680 --> 01:47:01.800 having a very similar route to and Or, where it's 2247 01:47:01.920 --> 01:47:04.640 not watched in like a GA show, but it could 2248 01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:07.359 be very deep and heady and a lot of the 2249 01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:09.479 like mar the same way with Star Wars fans. There's 2250 01:47:09.479 --> 01:47:11.159 a lot of Harker Star Wars fans that love and Or, 2251 01:47:11.239 --> 01:47:13.239 but it's not like mass watch. I think Vision Quest 2252 01:47:13.319 --> 01:47:13.720 could be that. 2253 01:47:14.039 --> 01:47:15.680 Which is a shame because and Or is the best 2254 01:47:15.680 --> 01:47:16.479 Star Wars thing ever. 2255 01:47:16.680 --> 01:47:25.680 I said it on TV show. They are open, So 2256 01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:34.640 now we got ant Man and Captain Marvel. I give 2257 01:47:34.680 --> 01:47:35.239 the badge. 2258 01:47:36.600 --> 01:47:38.600 If you put Captain Marvel at twenty seven, it's right 2259 01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:39.359 there with the Marvels. 2260 01:47:40.479 --> 01:47:43.479 That's perfect. Kind of give us the scrawls that we've 2261 01:47:43.600 --> 01:47:46.039 kind of been ragging on a little bit of this episode, 2262 01:47:46.159 --> 01:47:46.319 you know. 2263 01:47:47.079 --> 01:47:49.159 Yeah, I mean they were a lot better than that movie. 2264 01:47:49.079 --> 01:47:51.800 But they were fun. Fight with the Grandma, you know, 2265 01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:52.840 by far. 2266 01:47:52.720 --> 01:47:57.319 And away my favorite of the three Amen movies. The 2267 01:47:57.479 --> 01:48:02.640 Thomas the Train Engine gets me every time. Yeah, I 2268 01:48:02.840 --> 01:48:03.760 would put Man. 2269 01:48:03.720 --> 01:48:07.439 Above the villain of the Yellow Jacket. He's not bad. 2270 01:48:07.680 --> 01:48:11.239 Yeah, he's he's one note, but sometimes that's supposed to be. 2271 01:48:11.720 --> 01:48:14.079 Like sometimes it is okay to have the one note villain. 2272 01:48:14.680 --> 01:48:19.199 Okay, so we got there, So okay, we've done it. 2273 01:48:19.319 --> 01:48:24.800 We've ranked all thirty seven, all right reads, Okay, the 2274 01:48:25.039 --> 01:48:27.920 very bottom and Man the Lost Quantumedia, thank god, the 2275 01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:30.119 movie that broke the MC. Let's just ant Okay, they've 2276 01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:32.199 been trying to recover since that movie. 2277 01:48:32.359 --> 01:48:35.039 We're been ganging King and the worst. 2278 01:48:34.840 --> 01:48:35.479 Movie we could have. 2279 01:48:36.840 --> 01:48:39.880 Yesterday literally said we're gonna win your trust back with Seward. 2280 01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:43.840 I'm not paraphrasing, he fens or so he said that 2281 01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:48.560 that we lost the trust with Quantumedia in multiple ways, right, 2282 01:48:48.920 --> 01:48:52.159 and then Quantumedia thirty seven thor Dark World thirty six, 2283 01:48:52.319 --> 01:48:56.039 thor eleven, Thunder at thirty five, Uh, Brave New Day 2284 01:48:56.079 --> 01:48:59.239 at thirty four, I'm a new World, Bring New World, Gosh, 2285 01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:03.079 bring new Thank you, Rent, Rickey World, Iron Man two 2286 01:49:03.159 --> 01:49:06.479 at thirty three, The Eternals at thirty two, thirty one, 2287 01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:09.920 Black Widow thirty, Spider Man, Far from Home twenty nine, 2288 01:49:09.960 --> 01:49:12.960 ant Man in the Loss twenty eight, The Marbles twenty seven, 2289 01:49:13.119 --> 01:49:16.279 Captain Mark. We should flip that, right, Marvels should be 2290 01:49:16.319 --> 01:49:20.960 above Captain Marvel in my opinion. Are you guys still 2291 01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:21.439 fine with that? 2292 01:49:22.680 --> 01:49:23.720 This girls bother me. 2293 01:49:25.880 --> 01:49:26.000 Now? 2294 01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:26.439 Yeah? 2295 01:49:26.520 --> 01:49:28.760 That's fair? Yeah they are all Yeah, I get you, okay. 2296 01:49:29.159 --> 01:49:32.199 Twenty eight is still staying. The Marbles twenty seven, Captain Marvel, 2297 01:49:32.520 --> 01:49:36.840 twenty six, ant Man twenty five, Age of Ultron twenty four, Gardens, 2298 01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:40.439 Galaxy Find two, twenty three, Ironman three, Doctor Strange At 2299 01:49:40.439 --> 01:49:44.800 twenty two, twenty one, Multiverse of Mannas twenty four, nineteen, 2300 01:49:44.960 --> 01:49:49.840 Fantastic four, First Steps eighteen, Spirement Homecoming seventeen, The Incredible 2301 01:49:49.920 --> 01:49:54.239 Hulk sixteenth thor Ragnrock fifteen, Captain America, first, Avenger fourteen, 2302 01:49:54.319 --> 01:49:59.680 sung She thirteen, Thunderbolts, Asterix twelve, Gardens, Galaxy three eleven, 2303 01:49:59.720 --> 01:50:02.600 will On Forever at number ten, We're going to talk 2304 01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:06.239 to now dead Pool, Wolverene, nine, Iron Man, The Granddaddy, eight, 2305 01:50:06.520 --> 01:50:10.560 The Avengers, Sorry, Marvel's The Avengers seven, Guardians of the 2306 01:50:10.600 --> 01:50:14.279 Galaxy six, Civil War five, No Way Home four, Black 2307 01:50:14.319 --> 01:50:18.239 Panther three, Winter Soldier two Endgame, and number one Infinity War. 2308 01:50:18.680 --> 01:50:22.800 That is the Marvel Alliance host Ultimate Ranking of the 2309 01:50:23.039 --> 01:50:26.840 MCU as it currently stands. June third, twenty twenty six. 2310 01:50:26.880 --> 01:50:31.760 We got Brandy Day coming, we got Doomsday and nothing 2311 01:50:31.800 --> 01:50:32.960 else next year, right, it's. 2312 01:50:32.880 --> 01:50:36.039 Just cigar Wars, just secret Wars. And I'll say it 2313 01:50:36.119 --> 01:50:39.239 right now, I think that is something that will keep 2314 01:50:39.720 --> 01:50:42.159 I can see them not doing another movie and keeping 2315 01:50:42.199 --> 01:50:45.000 it to secret Wars because we haven't heard anything filmed 2316 01:50:45.239 --> 01:50:49.039 like legitimately, like there is nothing being filmed right now 2317 01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:50.279 that that would. 2318 01:50:50.039 --> 01:50:51.159 They would have had to film something. 2319 01:50:51.520 --> 01:50:54.880 Yeah, they would have had which also age Yeah, yeah, 2320 01:50:54.880 --> 01:50:55.079 And I. 2321 01:50:55.119 --> 01:50:57.159 Think that's smart. They did that. Po Wolverene worked out. 2322 01:50:57.279 --> 01:50:59.760 Let people just ride off of hopefully a great. 2323 01:50:59.600 --> 01:51:02.279 Doomsda but they'll build off with the shows that are coming. 2324 01:51:02.600 --> 01:51:04.720 Yeah. No, it'll be interesting to see. But you know what, 2325 01:51:04.920 --> 01:51:07.239 I got a sneaking suspicion, not that I don't think 2326 01:51:07.279 --> 01:51:08.720 it's a hot take. I think Brand New Day, if 2327 01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:11.039 we were to rank these in the future, that will 2328 01:51:11.079 --> 01:51:13.439 be higher than the other two. I I just got 2329 01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:14.840 a good feeling about Brand New Day. 2330 01:51:15.279 --> 01:51:18.079 And remember, Daredevil's in it, right, guys, he is. 2331 01:51:18.560 --> 01:51:20.840 He's the guy, He's the one on the hood, the 2332 01:51:20.880 --> 01:51:21.640 person like this. 2333 01:51:22.479 --> 01:51:26.319 So there's a non zero chance, but he's zero chance. 2334 01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:28.880 But all right, we'll take our final ad break for 2335 01:51:29.079 --> 01:51:31.239 the evening, so listeners, he's as hopep the lights on 2336 01:51:31.279 --> 01:51:33.159 the giggle to Midliance Network. We don't get choose when 2337 01:51:33.159 --> 01:51:34.399 ads come on, and they could be a bit loud. 2338 01:51:34.439 --> 01:51:36.279 Give you that three camp before they come on three 2339 01:51:36.560 --> 01:51:38.119 two one. We'll be right back. 2340 01:51:38.720 --> 01:51:40.760 They put Daredevil in that they're going to be trying 2341 01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:46.119 to take my my favorite movie spot. I'm the guy 2342 01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:48.239 that won a Daredevil more than Toby and Andrews. 2343 01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:50.119 So yeah, I hope it happens one day. 2344 01:51:50.399 --> 01:51:52.840 All right, As we said, no news because this was 2345 01:51:53.039 --> 01:51:56.039 recorded a week in advance and right now it's We're 2346 01:51:56.119 --> 01:51:56.600 okay with that. 2347 01:51:58.079 --> 01:51:58.399 All right. 2348 01:51:58.479 --> 01:52:03.279 One question that detour put out there, what is your 2349 01:52:03.680 --> 01:52:05.319 favorite MCU character? 2350 01:52:05.840 --> 01:52:07.840 And she said Marvel. Sorry, I might screw that up. 2351 01:52:07.880 --> 01:52:10.359 Just said Marble mar character. Oh okay, gotcha. 2352 01:52:10.920 --> 01:52:12.359 That actually makes it easier. 2353 01:52:12.640 --> 01:52:16.279 Yeah, yeah, that might have been my bad. Yeah. So yeah, 2354 01:52:16.279 --> 01:52:18.039 I wish you fitting for the I think we talked 2355 01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:20.439 about if we're fitting for the three hundreds to remind people. 2356 01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:24.199 So I'm I'm always a Ryan Die Wolverine guy. I'm 2357 01:52:24.279 --> 01:52:25.119 very excited for the game. 2358 01:52:25.279 --> 01:52:30.119 I love Oh god, I can't. We went over that 2359 01:52:30.680 --> 01:52:33.560 last week with mister Hinde, so yes, check us check 2360 01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:35.600 it out. Check it our breakdown of that that trailer, 2361 01:52:35.640 --> 01:52:37.239 because that was amazing exactly. 2362 01:52:37.399 --> 01:52:39.159 So you know, I love that character so much. I 2363 01:52:39.199 --> 01:52:41.960 got a child named after that character. So yeah, I 2364 01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:44.239 don't know what it was. I think for me, it's 2365 01:52:44.319 --> 01:52:47.760 not just okay, unique costume, even though I hate yellow, 2366 01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:50.039 so that's not but unique costume, cool power. As far 2367 01:52:50.079 --> 01:52:52.279 as the healing the class, I just think he is 2368 01:52:52.439 --> 01:52:56.319 the ultimate asshole with a heart. He is that guy 2369 01:52:56.520 --> 01:53:00.760 that he doesn't show that he cares, but he the most, 2370 01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:03.600 you know, and he is somebody that when the chips 2371 01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:06.000 are down, He's gonna be the last guy staying there. 2372 01:53:06.079 --> 01:53:07.960 Is that because his bone like he can just melt 2373 01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:10.359 his bones. Yes, but it's also just even if he 2374 01:53:10.359 --> 01:53:13.439 didn't have that healing factor, James Hollett would still. 2375 01:53:13.199 --> 01:53:15.159 Be showing up to do he'd last time. 2376 01:53:15.279 --> 01:53:17.439 Yeah, he might kick Cyclops in the dick before he 2377 01:53:17.520 --> 01:53:20.079 does it, but he's still gonna be there like. 2378 01:53:20.159 --> 01:53:23.439 He is, and he deserves it too every single time. 2379 01:53:23.680 --> 01:53:26.880 Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't, but he is. It's 2380 01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:29.680 just that where and of course it is. He's also badass. 2381 01:53:29.760 --> 01:53:32.359 He looks extremely cool, he looks unique, he always has 2382 01:53:32.399 --> 01:53:35.319 great one liners, he's very fun, the lower of the classic, 2383 01:53:35.720 --> 01:53:37.880 Hey what happened to me? And there's all these things 2384 01:53:37.960 --> 01:53:41.319 with Weapon X in Japan. So he's such an interesting character. 2385 01:53:41.399 --> 01:53:45.760 Who Yeah, and he's a character that anytime you match, 2386 01:53:47.119 --> 01:53:49.520 anytime you match you with somebody, it's always gonna be 2387 01:53:49.680 --> 01:53:52.199 a different dynamic. I remember one my favorite dynamics all 2388 01:53:52.239 --> 01:53:54.479 the time is him and Spider Man, and I love 2389 01:53:54.640 --> 01:53:57.680 that back and forth with those two. So yeah, Wolverine 2390 01:53:57.760 --> 01:54:00.159 is always There's there's definitely I think a lot of 2391 01:54:00.159 --> 01:54:02.920 people fighting for that second and third slot. I think 2392 01:54:02.920 --> 01:54:05.079 probably you know, dared l will be number two in there. 2393 01:54:05.199 --> 01:54:08.960 But yeah, I it's just some about him. That ninety 2394 01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:11.359 seventh series when as young reading a lot of Chris 2395 01:54:11.439 --> 01:54:13.399 Claremont when I was younger got me as well. And 2396 01:54:13.439 --> 01:54:15.399 then from there it's just I've grown and grown grown, 2397 01:54:15.439 --> 01:54:18.000 and then we've gotten an amazing adaptation with Hugh Jackman, 2398 01:54:18.039 --> 01:54:20.239 who I think is the greatest combo casting of all 2399 01:54:20.319 --> 01:54:22.840 time because I think, unlike a lot of other people 2400 01:54:22.960 --> 01:54:26.640 like Downy, Hugh Jackman is not Wolverine in real life 2401 01:54:26.680 --> 01:54:28.479 like Downey is very much like there's a lot of 2402 01:54:28.520 --> 01:54:31.479 downeyisms in Iron Man, same thing as Deadpool and wolver 2403 01:54:31.720 --> 01:54:34.159 or Ryan Reynolds, right, Hugh Jackman does not act like 2404 01:54:34.279 --> 01:54:34.800 anything like that. 2405 01:54:36.399 --> 01:54:39.600 Yeah he and I saw one of his concerts or 2406 01:54:39.920 --> 01:54:41.720 performances or whatever, and it was awesome. 2407 01:54:41.760 --> 01:54:44.680 It was all last nice, jealous, But yeah, I think 2408 01:54:44.720 --> 01:54:47.680 there's so much to like about that character. And yeah, 2409 01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:49.359 at the end of day, he's just cool. So there 2410 01:54:49.399 --> 01:54:50.600 you go. Wolverine is my answer. 2411 01:54:52.560 --> 01:54:55.760 I mean, to me, Spider Man is the greatest fictional 2412 01:54:55.840 --> 01:54:58.079 character of all time and so and I don't mean 2413 01:54:58.119 --> 01:55:00.319 Marvel character, I mean the greatest fictional character of all 2414 01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:03.159 time period. So obviously he is my favorite Marvel character. 2415 01:55:03.359 --> 01:55:05.600 Daredevil would be my second, and after that, I don't know, 2416 01:55:05.680 --> 01:55:08.319 I'd have to really think about number three, but I 2417 01:55:09.479 --> 01:55:12.920 Spider Man is like, it gives you so much of 2418 01:55:13.319 --> 01:55:16.520 that like kid wish fulfillment, you know, like kids growing up. 2419 01:55:16.560 --> 01:55:18.239 You can't see yourself as Batman, but you could see 2420 01:55:18.279 --> 01:55:20.439 yourself with Robin because he's the kid, right, he's the teen. 2421 01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:22.319 With Spider Man, you get that you get to be 2422 01:55:22.359 --> 01:55:24.000 the main hero, but you still also get to be 2423 01:55:24.079 --> 01:55:28.800 the teen as kids. Thinking that way, His origin is 2424 01:55:30.880 --> 01:55:32.920 his origin is one of the best origins out there, right, 2425 01:55:33.159 --> 01:55:37.279 Like it's also absolutely one in the popular conscience. Everybody 2426 01:55:37.359 --> 01:55:41.000 knows it. But he gets the spider bite. He's he 2427 01:55:41.159 --> 01:55:44.960 does have loving parental units. Let's say he's not growing up. 2428 01:55:45.199 --> 01:55:47.279 He's technically an orphan, but he's not growing up like 2429 01:55:47.439 --> 01:55:51.199 in the foster care system or something like that. So 2430 01:55:51.319 --> 01:55:54.039 he has May, he has Uncle Ben, and then he 2431 01:55:54.199 --> 01:55:56.600 makes this horrible mistake that is with him for the 2432 01:55:56.680 --> 01:55:59.279 rest of his life. Like the tragedy that he has 2433 01:55:59.479 --> 01:56:01.079 like sticks with him in a way it doesn't with 2434 01:56:01.199 --> 01:56:05.159 other characters. And between between the death of Ben and 2435 01:56:05.199 --> 01:56:09.399 the death of Gwynn is something that like I don't 2436 01:56:09.399 --> 01:56:12.079 get tired of reading those stories of how it's affected. 2437 01:56:12.359 --> 01:56:16.399 What's weird, though, is I think Spider Man is again 2438 01:56:16.720 --> 01:56:20.239 absolutely my favorite character. Not the best runs so like 2439 01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:22.920 not the best comics, the runs and stuff. There's some 2440 01:56:23.079 --> 01:56:24.359 that I try love, but. 2441 01:56:24.680 --> 01:56:28.079 Lately it's been like they've been fine, but they've been 2442 01:56:28.119 --> 01:56:33.159 they've been like they they've been unmemorable, which is probably 2443 01:56:33.279 --> 01:56:35.840 the worst thing you could possibly be in a story 2444 01:56:36.399 --> 01:56:40.199 because they're not good enough to trash and they're not 2445 01:56:40.279 --> 01:56:43.039 good enough to wax poetic about. They've just been unmemorable 2446 01:56:43.840 --> 01:56:48.359 and where well, because if you trash you remember them right, 2447 01:56:48.479 --> 01:56:52.199 Like Secret Invasion the show, we can go back and 2448 01:56:52.279 --> 01:56:54.000 talk about that in all the ways it was stupid, 2449 01:56:54.399 --> 01:56:57.319 like the main protagonist and the main antagonist not even 2450 01:56:57.399 --> 01:57:01.640 being on screen got in the final freaking episode. But 2451 01:57:02.319 --> 01:57:04.319 the last couple of Spider Man runs have just been 2452 01:57:04.439 --> 01:57:07.079 so for the most part forgettable. There's been certain things 2453 01:57:07.119 --> 01:57:08.880 in and of like I like the Gang War story, 2454 01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:12.880 but other stuff is weird, Like there's this stuff now 2455 01:57:13.199 --> 01:57:16.439 is there's a weird story going on with Norman Osborne 2456 01:57:16.479 --> 01:57:19.640 filling in a spider Man, and it's been a choice, 2457 01:57:20.039 --> 01:57:21.560 and I don't know if I like it. 2458 01:57:21.760 --> 01:57:24.319 I don't That's not true. I don't like it. I 2459 01:57:24.359 --> 01:57:27.000 don't know if I dislike it. It's just been a choice. 2460 01:57:27.119 --> 01:57:29.359 It's clearly, at least on the Marvel Limited side, it's 2461 01:57:29.359 --> 01:57:32.760 getting to the end. I'm fine with that. But then 2462 01:57:32.800 --> 01:57:35.760 you have someone like Daredevil, and it's like banger after 2463 01:57:35.880 --> 01:57:38.760 banger after banger of runs does all these great riders 2464 01:57:38.800 --> 01:57:41.680 back to back to back. So for me, it's those two, 2465 01:57:41.720 --> 01:57:43.640 and I'm really glad this was Marvel and not MCU 2466 01:57:43.680 --> 01:57:45.159 because I'd be a harder choice for me. 2467 01:57:46.399 --> 01:57:49.319 Yeah, you both have said, you know, spider Man's on 2468 01:57:49.399 --> 01:57:52.319 my top three, wolverinees on my top three, But as 2469 01:57:52.560 --> 01:57:57.840 my Moniker goes, it is Daredevil and I like complicated heroes. 2470 01:57:57.880 --> 01:58:00.079 I'm not saying the other two like Logan's complicated to 2471 01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:02.479 spider Man's complicated. They've all had their ups and downs 2472 01:58:02.479 --> 01:58:07.199 at that point. But when you bring a I mean 2473 01:58:07.479 --> 01:58:10.840 a boy like myself raised in Catholicism at that point 2474 01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:15.199 in dealing with someone who Matt Murdoch is nowhere will 2475 01:58:15.279 --> 01:58:17.800 be the epitome is I want to be like Matt Murdoch. No, 2476 01:58:18.199 --> 01:58:21.119 no one really wants to be like Matt Murdoch at all. 2477 01:58:21.439 --> 01:58:23.279 You shouldn't want to be exactly. 2478 01:58:23.640 --> 01:58:27.880 There's very questionable things, but the idea of Catholic boy, 2479 01:58:28.239 --> 01:58:30.880 blind lawyer, like all the all the things. But to 2480 01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:35.279 the point of where we get to Frank Miller then 2481 01:58:35.399 --> 01:58:40.119 and Nacente, then we get to the the Kevin Smith, 2482 01:58:40.640 --> 01:58:43.880 the reigniting of Kevin Smith bringing that run to Bend 2483 01:58:45.239 --> 01:58:49.039 to to brew. Baker followed up with Mark Wade. You 2484 01:58:49.159 --> 01:58:51.880 may call it controversial, it still brings in some stuff 2485 01:58:51.880 --> 01:58:53.159 once you get into that deep of that and. 2486 01:58:53.319 --> 01:58:57.039 Dig was in there, he has some good stuff. Yeah, 2487 01:58:57.359 --> 01:58:58.119 lower point. 2488 01:58:58.439 --> 01:59:02.600 Charles Soul leading into the Darsky leading into is Za Darsky. 2489 01:59:02.680 --> 01:59:05.760 We did have a blip in my opinion of after Zadarsky. 2490 01:59:05.920 --> 01:59:08.680 But now Stephanie Phillips coming in with just three issues 2491 01:59:08.720 --> 01:59:12.199 going on that I am so excited to meet her 2492 01:59:12.279 --> 01:59:18.520 in person at time of recording next this week, just 2493 01:59:18.640 --> 01:59:21.079 to just to shake her hand. If you don't follow 2494 01:59:21.119 --> 01:59:23.319 Stephanie Phillips on TikTok or anything like that, she is. 2495 01:59:24.159 --> 01:59:29.199 She is a very good follow And but yeah, Matt 2496 01:59:29.279 --> 01:59:32.079 Murdoch and everything that he has encountered and gone through 2497 01:59:32.359 --> 01:59:35.319 and risen fallen, come back from the dead, things like 2498 01:59:35.720 --> 01:59:38.960 it is. There's something about it that I always go 2499 01:59:39.119 --> 01:59:43.239 back to, even to your point, even to your point, 2500 01:59:43.319 --> 01:59:48.079 as you said, Brent, with Spider Man, there there are 2501 01:59:48.199 --> 01:59:52.119 low points of Daredevil, but even still, like I think 2502 01:59:53.039 --> 01:59:55.800 I can put the argument that Daredevil has one of 2503 01:59:55.880 --> 01:59:59.399 the best and most consistent runs going on, starting with 2504 01:59:59.439 --> 02:00:03.079 Frank Miller onwards, that there are a lot less there. 2505 02:00:03.319 --> 02:00:06.520 They're a lot less low points in Dared Devil's More. 2506 02:00:06.520 --> 02:00:09.439 And they're shorter, they're shorter when they do happen, they're shorter. Yeah, 2507 02:00:09.520 --> 02:00:11.680 you don't have a fifty to sixty issue run that 2508 02:00:11.800 --> 02:00:13.159 most people consider a low point. 2509 02:00:13.279 --> 02:00:15.439 Yeah, and some people consider I get it, Mark Wade 2510 02:00:15.439 --> 02:00:17.399 a low point, but I said, you're missing the point 2511 02:00:17.399 --> 02:00:19.319 of what Mark Wade was going for with that, with 2512 02:00:19.479 --> 02:00:21.880 that run of what he was coming out of shadow Lands. 2513 02:00:21.920 --> 02:00:23.800 But all in all, Daredevil my favorite. 2514 02:00:24.640 --> 02:00:27.399 So nice, three great characters. 2515 02:00:27.560 --> 02:00:32.319 Yeah, so all right, Well, no, no compa club we're 2516 02:00:32.399 --> 02:00:34.880 taking or until you know, we get back to a 2517 02:00:34.960 --> 02:00:37.119 normal thing. We got one more issue of Age of 2518 02:00:37.239 --> 02:00:40.199 Ultron ten point a. As we as we go through 2519 02:00:40.319 --> 02:00:46.720 the history of based on genres of compa clubs. So 2520 02:00:46.840 --> 02:00:48.760 we'll conclude that one and we'll see what our next 2521 02:00:48.800 --> 02:00:53.479 one is. But uh, factor fictions, factor fictions, I know, David, David, 2522 02:00:53.479 --> 02:00:55.279 We're gonna have to put out there at that point 2523 02:00:55.399 --> 02:00:57.159 he didn't put in the chat. But we'll do our 2524 02:00:57.199 --> 02:00:58.000 factor fictions. 2525 02:00:58.159 --> 02:00:59.840 So we don't have the new one. We don't know 2526 02:01:00.079 --> 02:01:02.000 from last week the results because the. 2527 02:01:02.079 --> 02:01:07.920 Results will be I wasn't mister Hines. Mister Heines' results 2528 02:01:07.960 --> 02:01:10.560 will be brought up in the week, so catch them 2529 02:01:10.640 --> 02:01:10.880 up too. 2530 02:01:11.079 --> 02:01:13.119 So all right, I was saying this because I was 2531 02:01:13.159 --> 02:01:16.199 trying to think of one that was current, but also 2532 02:01:16.279 --> 02:01:20.119 one that's kind of evergreen to a point for I'd 2533 02:01:20.159 --> 02:01:21.960 say for like the next five to six years, because 2534 02:01:22.000 --> 02:01:23.399 that's what three hundreds. I want to stretch a little 2535 02:01:23.399 --> 02:01:26.239 further beyond that. So I'm not gonna go one. It 2536 02:01:26.359 --> 02:01:27.760 is one factor of fiction. I'm not gonna go one. 2537 02:01:27.840 --> 02:01:32.319 Character can go too. I'm gonna say that. Will Gwen 2538 02:01:32.439 --> 02:01:36.479 Stacy and Norman Osbourne be supporting characters in any of 2539 02:01:36.560 --> 02:01:39.079 the Tom holl Inspire, Man, let's just assume it's a trilogy. 2540 02:01:39.439 --> 02:01:41.000 Will they be supporting characters? Doesn't have to be the 2541 02:01:41.000 --> 02:01:43.520 same movie, But will those two characters ever be supporting? 2542 02:01:43.600 --> 02:01:46.439 I'm not meaning like, oh, hey, it's Gwen Stacy and 2543 02:01:46.479 --> 02:01:50.600 that's kind of it. I mean my genuine, actual important 2544 02:01:50.680 --> 02:01:53.760 characters in Norman Osborne or sorry, Harry Osborne and Gwen. 2545 02:01:54.079 --> 02:01:55.399 I'll take the Norm back. Sorry my bad. 2546 02:01:55.560 --> 02:01:57.520 I'm gonna clarify on the Norman if. 2547 02:01:57.479 --> 02:02:01.560 You Yeah, yeah, because we're in the college years, let's 2548 02:02:01.600 --> 02:02:04.000 people speculated. But at the same time, that doesn't mean 2549 02:02:04.039 --> 02:02:05.720 they have to go there, right, and we're already down 2550 02:02:05.800 --> 02:02:08.840 movie one. I don't think they're gonna be I haven't 2551 02:02:08.840 --> 02:02:10.880 seen Brand New Day, but I would pizza at someone 2552 02:02:10.920 --> 02:02:12.880 that I don't think they will be in this movie 2553 02:02:12.920 --> 02:02:15.680 other than I'll get a nod and like, oh your 2554 02:02:15.800 --> 02:02:18.560 roommates Harry, like he gets something like that, right. I 2555 02:02:18.800 --> 02:02:21.560 hope it's true. They've been talking so much about getting 2556 02:02:21.600 --> 02:02:23.600 back to the classic roots of Spider Man. Those are 2557 02:02:23.600 --> 02:02:27.039 two characters I associate with those classic roots, especially with Gwen. 2558 02:02:27.199 --> 02:02:30.000 But I think the Emgins and Day at all makes 2559 02:02:30.039 --> 02:02:31.279 it kind of hard. 2560 02:02:31.560 --> 02:02:36.479 So yeah, I think there's more there's more of a 2561 02:02:36.640 --> 02:02:42.479 chance for Harry than Gwen right now, So I say, 2562 02:02:42.760 --> 02:02:45.760 I say, if we even though I love No Way Home, 2563 02:02:46.520 --> 02:02:51.520 that's not the MCU's Osborne, you know that's that's I 2564 02:02:51.560 --> 02:02:53.640 didn't know what are they making out to be? I say, 2565 02:02:54.119 --> 02:02:56.079 there's more of a chance for Harry than Gwen. I 2566 02:02:56.119 --> 02:02:58.800 don't think it's impossible for Gwen, but it's gonna have 2567 02:02:59.000 --> 02:03:03.479 to be. Are we basically saying goodbye to m Jane 2568 02:03:03.600 --> 02:03:06.239 Peter in this Like I think this movie, I want 2569 02:03:06.279 --> 02:03:08.279 to see exactly where we end up with m Jane 2570 02:03:08.319 --> 02:03:10.560 Peter because if they get back together, I think there's 2571 02:03:10.720 --> 02:03:13.479 I think there's even less of a chance for Gwen. 2572 02:03:13.640 --> 02:03:16.560 Which it's hard to imagine of, like she's gonna get 2573 02:03:16.600 --> 02:03:18.520 her memory back and be like, no, I don't want 2574 02:03:18.520 --> 02:03:20.920 to be with you exactly. Yeah, like we kind of 2575 02:03:20.960 --> 02:03:22.920 feel like where this is going? Right? 2576 02:03:23.159 --> 02:03:26.600 So can I clarify with Gwen? Do you mean love 2577 02:03:26.680 --> 02:03:27.319 inter Squinn? 2578 02:03:27.760 --> 02:03:29.439 Nope, Gwen, say say it all just in general? You 2579 02:03:29.520 --> 02:03:32.159 know Ultimate series, he was his adopted Okay, yeah, okay, 2580 02:03:33.399 --> 02:03:33.800 got it on. 2581 02:03:33.960 --> 02:03:36.960 But I'm gonna say fact, but yeah, I think it 2582 02:03:37.039 --> 02:03:41.359 could be more Spider Gwen. Okay, so I love inter Squinn. 2583 02:03:41.399 --> 02:03:43.720 I think is out the door she throw her off 2584 02:03:43.760 --> 02:03:46.760 the bridge. She's not happening, Oh Jesus. 2585 02:03:48.439 --> 02:03:51.760 And not one webbing to only not two webbing one 2586 02:03:51.840 --> 02:03:54.079 webbing that, but you make sure it's gone down. 2587 02:03:54.159 --> 02:03:56.840 I don't know that going. I love the Ultimate Spider 2588 02:03:56.920 --> 02:03:58.840 Man Run. That's my favorite Spider Man book. But I 2589 02:03:58.960 --> 02:04:03.279 don't know that going the Sister becomes carnage thing sort 2590 02:04:03.319 --> 02:04:04.159 of is the route to. 2591 02:04:04.199 --> 02:04:08.039 Go that they did with that in remember I can 2592 02:04:08.119 --> 02:04:08.439 hear us. 2593 02:04:10.720 --> 02:04:13.800 Yeah, now that you brought that clarification, can't make it 2594 02:04:13.960 --> 02:04:14.560 here anymore. 2595 02:04:16.840 --> 02:04:18.840 Yeah, you brought that clarification. Yes, I think there's more 2596 02:04:18.840 --> 02:04:21.239 of a chance for Gwenn if it's just friendship, putting 2597 02:04:21.399 --> 02:04:24.800 them in part of the group and hare to not 2598 02:04:25.199 --> 02:04:28.800 have an mc u osbourne in there without some significant role. 2599 02:04:28.840 --> 02:04:30.079 I think that's that's a miss. 2600 02:04:30.439 --> 02:04:32.560 I mean, Gwyn in the comics now has more of 2601 02:04:32.600 --> 02:04:35.640 a connection to Myles and then she does to Peter 2602 02:04:35.840 --> 02:04:38.159 at this point, David, I don't like, but you know, 2603 02:04:38.399 --> 02:04:40.199 like I'm okay with it because I feel like they've 2604 02:04:40.239 --> 02:04:42.640 done a good job of letting Spider would be a 2605 02:04:42.680 --> 02:04:45.199 different character than the Gwenn that Peter lost. 2606 02:04:45.279 --> 02:04:48.039 That's true, Yes, that I think it's And she's. 2607 02:04:47.920 --> 02:04:50.520 Younger and Peter's an adult and it would just be 2608 02:04:50.640 --> 02:04:52.960 weird if he was obsessing over her. 2609 02:04:53.239 --> 02:04:54.800 Yeah, And when I say I don't like it, it's 2610 02:04:54.960 --> 02:04:58.279 legitimly just because I grew up with like Peter and Gwen. Right, 2611 02:04:58.319 --> 02:05:00.199 so it's a weird thing for me now to up 2612 02:05:00.199 --> 02:05:04.960 with kids and Gwen and Miles is like especially well, yeah, 2613 02:05:05.119 --> 02:05:07.359 it's super weird. Like Gwen Stacy I loved. I'm a 2614 02:05:07.439 --> 02:05:09.680 Gwen Stacy guy over Amjay guy. That's hence why I 2615 02:05:09.720 --> 02:05:12.039 got a daughter named Gwen. And it's so weird to 2616 02:05:12.079 --> 02:05:14.760 see oh Man, like that's like a thing of the past. 2617 02:05:14.840 --> 02:05:17.399 Now I'm still fiction because I'm with Chris that I 2618 02:05:17.439 --> 02:05:19.600 think Harry could happen. I even think Harry could be 2619 02:05:20.079 --> 02:05:23.079 the MCU goblin. I think they could change it up's Norman. 2620 02:05:23.520 --> 02:05:25.640 Yeah, well there's precedent for in the comics in a 2621 02:05:25.640 --> 02:05:29.840 sense when he does take over with this James da Matteis, 2622 02:05:30.159 --> 02:05:30.640 And I think it. 2623 02:05:30.640 --> 02:05:33.760 Would be an interesting dynamic where if I've pitched this before, 2624 02:05:33.800 --> 02:05:36.560 where Peter, if you meet this Norman Osbourne and the 2625 02:05:36.640 --> 02:05:39.039 whole time, if there's a goblin going around, Peter thinks, 2626 02:05:39.039 --> 02:05:40.880 oh it's Gobby and Norman and it's not him and 2627 02:05:40.920 --> 02:05:43.000 it's his son. There's tons of things you could play. 2628 02:05:43.039 --> 02:05:45.079 Same thing. I want Gwen Stacy really bad because I 2629 02:05:45.119 --> 02:05:47.479 love the character, but also because I just think that'd 2630 02:05:47.520 --> 02:05:49.319 be so fun. I think with MJ being back at 2631 02:05:49.479 --> 02:05:52.199 knows that. But the idea of he met a spider 2632 02:05:52.279 --> 02:05:54.039 man that said the love of his life was Gwen 2633 02:05:54.079 --> 02:05:56.600 Stacey and she died, and how what would happen to 2634 02:05:56.680 --> 02:05:59.680 Peter Parker if he met someone named Gwen Stacy like 2635 02:05:59.800 --> 02:06:02.000 so much that bag is right away would be do 2636 02:06:02.079 --> 02:06:03.520 you even interact with that person? 2637 02:06:03.640 --> 02:06:04.079 What do you do? 2638 02:06:04.399 --> 02:06:06.640 That's why he's kind of hoping Sadie Sink was Gwen Stacy. 2639 02:06:06.720 --> 02:06:09.319 I don't think that's happening, but I'm gonna say fiction 2640 02:06:09.399 --> 02:06:12.159 because I think when would also come maybe with Miles. 2641 02:06:12.199 --> 02:06:13.920 So I think that's the other thing is I do 2642 02:06:14.079 --> 02:06:16.439 think Holland will be done after this trilogy. And he's 2643 02:06:16.520 --> 02:06:19.359 already saying he's already laying those seeds of like I 2644 02:06:19.520 --> 02:06:21.399 really want to do it down. He did, and Evan's 2645 02:06:21.399 --> 02:06:23.520 been like handed off to the next person, and I 2646 02:06:23.560 --> 02:06:26.600 think he's getting us ready for the Swan Song. And 2647 02:06:26.640 --> 02:06:28.560 that's where I think Gwen could come with Miles, and 2648 02:06:28.800 --> 02:06:31.239 it is more associated nowadays with everything going on. 2649 02:06:31.520 --> 02:06:33.800 Well to even the point of like Colin being done. 2650 02:06:33.880 --> 02:06:37.439 I mean, you know you he's jumping on Nolan's band, 2651 02:06:37.840 --> 02:06:41.600 jumping on at this point, he's he's now going he's 2652 02:06:41.640 --> 02:06:43.880 gonna finish out. He will finish out this trilogy of 2653 02:06:43.960 --> 02:06:47.439 Spider Man. But he's been very clear he is not 2654 02:06:47.600 --> 02:06:50.439 a Hollywood person. He shies away from it at that point, 2655 02:06:50.520 --> 02:06:53.319 and he's been also very clear once they start having kids, 2656 02:06:54.159 --> 02:06:57.319 he's kind of done. He wants to be mad. He's done, 2657 02:06:57.439 --> 02:07:00.159 he's decking out. He'll let you know. Zendaia will be 2658 02:07:00.239 --> 02:07:02.800 the and he's completely fine with that, Like he's never 2659 02:07:02.920 --> 02:07:06.319 he's been the He's been a different kind of actor 2660 02:07:06.439 --> 02:07:07.039 for Hollywood. 2661 02:07:07.399 --> 02:07:09.039 And then you'll see him in twenty years when he 2662 02:07:09.119 --> 02:07:10.520 does what Toata McGuire Andrew did. 2663 02:07:10.640 --> 02:07:10.720 Right. 2664 02:07:10.920 --> 02:07:12.840 Yeah, he can die and then he can come back. 2665 02:07:12.760 --> 02:07:14.920 To do that sort of thing, do a Spider Man 2666 02:07:15.000 --> 02:07:15.800 life story thing. 2667 02:07:16.279 --> 02:07:19.159 Yeah exactly so, but I do think next decade you'll 2668 02:07:19.199 --> 02:07:22.279 be watching Tom Olins Spider Man eat it big time. 2669 02:07:22.399 --> 02:07:24.039 You know that's inevitable. 2670 02:07:24.359 --> 02:07:29.439 So yeah, okay, Brent, what you got so. 2671 02:07:31.880 --> 02:07:35.319 Defenders focused, not counting Jessica Jones, because I think that 2672 02:07:35.520 --> 02:07:37.479 is I think there is going to be some project 2673 02:07:37.560 --> 02:07:42.000 with her. We are going to get a special presentation 2674 02:07:43.720 --> 02:07:48.159 of other Defender's characters. So it could just be Luke, 2675 02:07:48.319 --> 02:07:50.039 it could just be Iron Fist, it could be them 2676 02:07:50.039 --> 02:07:52.640 two of them together. Would still love to see a 2677 02:07:52.720 --> 02:07:57.039 Daughters of the Dragon thing from Misty and Colleen. Maybe 2678 02:07:57.079 --> 02:07:59.239 it would be Heroes for Hire and Jessica would be 2679 02:07:59.319 --> 02:08:02.800 involved in it, but she won't be like the title character. Yeah, 2680 02:08:04.600 --> 02:08:06.439 maybe it's the Defenders, maybe it's all of them. 2681 02:08:06.439 --> 02:08:09.279 Again, I think that all really hinges on how this 2682 02:08:09.399 --> 02:08:13.319 next season gets received, especially if they're going to be 2683 02:08:13.840 --> 02:08:16.560 quote unquote the Heroes of the citywell Matts in Jail. 2684 02:08:17.439 --> 02:08:22.800 Yeah, I'll lean to fact because obviously, like that's all subjective, 2685 02:08:22.800 --> 02:08:24.880 of course, but I think majority of people would agree 2686 02:08:24.920 --> 02:08:28.000 that season two was superior to see One or Born Again, 2687 02:08:28.439 --> 02:08:30.720 and that's the same team going four three. So I 2688 02:08:30.800 --> 02:08:33.640 hope they continue that and make people enjoy that. I 2689 02:08:33.760 --> 02:08:38.000 could see a Heroes for Higher special presentation that's almost 2690 02:08:38.199 --> 02:08:40.159 used as the old back in the day when they 2691 02:08:40.199 --> 02:08:42.279 still do it sometimes but used to just film a 2692 02:08:42.359 --> 02:08:44.920 pilot first and take it and then it would get 2693 02:08:44.960 --> 02:08:46.399 green light, and I almost feel like that's what the 2694 02:08:46.439 --> 02:08:48.560 presentation could be of, like, hey, this is what it 2695 02:08:48.680 --> 02:08:52.199 could be, and let's see if you'll like it, watch it, 2696 02:08:52.319 --> 02:08:54.800 and we gotta I've said some geek fersts, it's funny 2697 02:08:54.800 --> 02:08:56.560 the way we've gone around. They start with these characters 2698 02:08:56.600 --> 02:08:58.920 because they're cheaper and easier to make, and now we've 2699 02:08:58.960 --> 02:09:00.520 gone all the way back around where it's like, let's 2700 02:09:00.560 --> 02:09:02.399 do the street level characters again. I have no problem 2701 02:09:02.479 --> 02:09:04.000 to doing that because I don't think they'll get movies, 2702 02:09:04.039 --> 02:09:07.359 so I would like that the best episode or when 2703 02:09:07.399 --> 02:09:10.880 the best showing for Finn Jones's Iron Fist is not 2704 02:09:11.039 --> 02:09:14.159 his own show, it's that one episode. And yeah, right, 2705 02:09:14.600 --> 02:09:16.479 so I think they had good chemistry and good dynamic, 2706 02:09:16.600 --> 02:09:18.800 so I'll go fact. I think they'll try it out 2707 02:09:18.800 --> 02:09:20.760 because I also don't think it would be super expensive 2708 02:09:21.000 --> 02:09:23.479 and it's okay, we did with Punisher. Let's give them 2709 02:09:23.520 --> 02:09:25.720 forty five to fifty minutes, see what happens and kind 2710 02:09:25.720 --> 02:09:26.359 of go from there. 2711 02:09:26.399 --> 02:09:28.680 So I'm a fact. Yeah, I'm definitely a fact. I 2712 02:09:28.720 --> 02:09:32.319 think it's it's more more. I think the best move 2713 02:09:32.399 --> 02:09:34.399 for them is doing a Heroes for Hire with Luken 2714 02:09:35.159 --> 02:09:38.840 and Danny. I'm with you. I think we all want 2715 02:09:38.840 --> 02:09:41.239 to see Colleen Wing. I mean, we already heard she's 2716 02:09:41.399 --> 02:09:46.439 held out when she got offered a part to Bear, Yeah, 2717 02:09:46.560 --> 02:09:49.039 she said, nope, I want she wants to hold out 2718 02:09:49.079 --> 02:09:50.880 cause I love that devotion to a character. 2719 02:09:51.000 --> 02:09:52.840 Isn't that when she chose to be in the Matrix 2720 02:09:52.960 --> 02:09:56.520 movie instead, like she chose Matrix over Chunk Chi or 2721 02:09:56.520 --> 02:09:59.720 something like that, because yeah, specifically because she didn't want 2722 02:09:59.720 --> 02:10:03.199 to which we all know, like it doesn't lock you out, 2723 02:10:03.399 --> 02:10:05.960 but she wanted to leave it as open as possible 2724 02:10:06.039 --> 02:10:06.560 to return. 2725 02:10:06.800 --> 02:10:09.439 Yeah, and I think that she's had obviously had those 2726 02:10:09.479 --> 02:10:12.720 conversations with Charlie Cox and things like that to lead 2727 02:10:12.800 --> 02:10:16.760 her to that thing house. Yeah. So yeah, In fact, 2728 02:10:16.960 --> 02:10:22.600 so all right, mine is tied to the animation side, 2729 02:10:25.119 --> 02:10:30.119 tied to X Men ninety seven, So we already know 2730 02:10:30.159 --> 02:10:32.800 we're getting. We already know season three is a green 2731 02:10:32.880 --> 02:10:34.479 that we know we're getting a season four. They're going 2732 02:10:34.520 --> 02:10:36.279 to try to go every year. We'll see how long 2733 02:10:36.319 --> 02:10:38.000 that lasts, but we know we at least have three 2734 02:10:38.239 --> 02:10:42.359 season three and four hour ago at some point, whether 2735 02:10:42.359 --> 02:10:45.640 it be season three four or a possibility of five. 2736 02:10:48.119 --> 02:10:52.319 We are going to get the Age of Cracoa, oh man, 2737 02:10:52.520 --> 02:10:56.680 because because of look at how we're heading to what 2738 02:10:56.840 --> 02:10:59.720 we just got out of with season one, where they're 2739 02:10:59.720 --> 02:11:03.079 heading to the the end. What we got was this 2740 02:11:03.159 --> 02:11:05.720 started me thinking as I was rewatching at that point, 2741 02:11:05.880 --> 02:11:08.359 Janosh was supposed to be the haven that got destroyed. 2742 02:11:08.920 --> 02:11:10.920 Everything's got them on the edge at that Poe. I 2743 02:11:11.199 --> 02:11:17.560 really am leaning towards because they've also did a comic version. 2744 02:11:17.560 --> 02:11:19.119 I'm not saying it was well, but they did a 2745 02:11:19.239 --> 02:11:22.840 comic kind of version of the Age of Curracoa in 2746 02:11:23.680 --> 02:11:29.119 the you know, animated series version, and so I would 2747 02:11:29.119 --> 02:11:31.920 think about that. I say, they could fit this in 2748 02:11:32.039 --> 02:11:35.880 at some point, especially with how they've dabbled Magnetic going 2749 02:11:36.000 --> 02:11:38.319 in and out of being villainous at that point, Charles 2750 02:11:38.399 --> 02:11:40.840 trying to go in and out of of that, I 2751 02:11:40.920 --> 02:11:44.560 could see at some point them doing and don't I'm 2752 02:11:44.600 --> 02:11:46.720 not even you know again, it's not gonna be one 2753 02:11:46.760 --> 02:11:49.079 of those oh two issues to two episodes of the 2754 02:11:49.239 --> 02:11:51.640 Inferno saga and we're done with Madeline Pryor. I think 2755 02:11:51.680 --> 02:11:54.680 that this will be a longer, this will be a season. 2756 02:11:54.760 --> 02:11:57.159 I think they're going to take the age of Curcoa 2757 02:11:57.279 --> 02:11:59.600 as a season long thing from beginning, middle, and end. 2758 02:12:00.159 --> 02:12:02.039 Well to go full circle because it's three hundred in 2759 02:12:02.119 --> 02:12:04.359 the feed somewhere. Check on speaker. Me and Chris did 2760 02:12:04.439 --> 02:12:07.640 do a World's Finest True Believer on this run? Or 2761 02:12:07.680 --> 02:12:08.600 do wait, do we do that? 2762 02:12:08.680 --> 02:12:09.119 No, we did it. 2763 02:12:09.199 --> 02:12:11.399 We did a combook club. Okay, that's what was the 2764 02:12:11.479 --> 02:12:14.399 World's Finest True Believers was with my friend BJ Kicks. 2765 02:12:14.680 --> 02:12:16.880 Yeah, because again back to what I talked about with 2766 02:12:16.880 --> 02:12:19.119 geekers and other people. At that point, didn't have too 2767 02:12:19.159 --> 02:12:21.000 many people that read combooks, so I was always telling, oh, 2768 02:12:21.039 --> 02:12:23.319 this Crocola stuff, And when me and Chris first started talking, 2769 02:12:23.560 --> 02:12:25.520 that's was one of the early bonding of like, oh 2770 02:12:25.720 --> 02:12:26.600 the Crocrola stuff. 2771 02:12:26.640 --> 02:12:26.760 Right. 2772 02:12:27.479 --> 02:12:30.760 I think I'm a fact now because I think when 2773 02:12:31.000 --> 02:12:34.760 this podcast started, I heavily pitch them reworking that as 2774 02:12:34.840 --> 02:12:37.239 the introduction to the X Men, to the MCU. I 2775 02:12:37.319 --> 02:12:40.000 don't think at all that's what they're gonna do now. 2776 02:12:40.159 --> 02:12:42.720 I think they're gonna go way more basic because I 2777 02:12:42.800 --> 02:12:44.399 do think. I don't think it's gonna be a reboop. 2778 02:12:44.439 --> 02:12:46.560 I think there'll be a mini reset secret Wars where 2779 02:12:46.800 --> 02:12:48.960 you can jump on more than Phase four, which was 2780 02:12:49.000 --> 02:12:50.840 a lot of new stuff but a lot of just 2781 02:12:50.920 --> 02:12:53.199 still connecting threads that didn't really go to many places. 2782 02:12:53.479 --> 02:12:56.680 I think Phase uh seven will act a lot like 2783 02:12:56.760 --> 02:12:59.239 Phase one, but with X Men and other people. So 2784 02:12:59.560 --> 02:13:01.439 I think that's why they're safe, because the only reason 2785 02:13:01.479 --> 02:13:03.279 I could say that is because I know it's a 2786 02:13:03.279 --> 02:13:05.239 little bit even like Deadpool. They try to use them 2787 02:13:05.279 --> 02:13:07.199 in season one and Marvel did say, no, you can't 2788 02:13:07.239 --> 02:13:08.960 use them because we got we're doing stuff with them 2789 02:13:09.039 --> 02:13:11.239 right now, X Y and Z don't touch it right 2790 02:13:11.319 --> 02:13:13.560 And that was before they were working on Deadpool Wolverine. 2791 02:13:13.560 --> 02:13:15.720 So that's why Wolverine was and you couldn't do niney 2792 02:13:15.720 --> 02:13:17.359 seent without Wolverine. But I'm saying like he wasn't in 2793 02:13:17.439 --> 02:13:19.840 the plants and they still do that like CWT all 2794 02:13:19.880 --> 02:13:23.119 those times. I think if they actively were, hey, we're 2795 02:13:23.239 --> 02:13:26.560 doing Croca for X Men, well that's how're gonna introduce them, 2796 02:13:26.600 --> 02:13:28.079 I'd say no. But I don't think that's in the 2797 02:13:28.199 --> 02:13:31.479 cards anymore. I think hopefully downline. So I'm gonna say fact, 2798 02:13:31.520 --> 02:13:33.159 and that might be the better place to do it 2799 02:13:33.640 --> 02:13:36.800 for now because that takes a lot of build up, 2800 02:13:36.880 --> 02:13:39.520 and we just got to introduce them and get the 2801 02:13:39.680 --> 02:13:41.760 casting and get that right. So I'm gonna say fact, 2802 02:13:41.840 --> 02:13:44.640 and I really hope this is a true fact. 2803 02:13:44.840 --> 02:13:50.159 So I don't see them doing And I realized this 2804 02:13:50.279 --> 02:13:52.439 is what you were saying, but a live action movie 2805 02:13:52.520 --> 02:13:54.399 of it like that too way too much build up. 2806 02:13:54.840 --> 02:13:56.520 A TV season is the place to do it, and 2807 02:13:56.560 --> 02:13:59.039 I don't see them doing a X Men TV show 2808 02:13:59.119 --> 02:13:59.560 live action. 2809 02:14:00.159 --> 02:14:01.640 Yeah, to that scale, the X. 2810 02:14:01.640 --> 02:14:04.279 Men ninety seven x Men the animated series, like they 2811 02:14:04.439 --> 02:14:10.199 do like adapting or being inspired by comic storylines, famous 2812 02:14:10.239 --> 02:14:14.399 comic storylines, I absolutely could see them see them doing 2813 02:14:14.560 --> 02:14:16.800 something like this, like get to the end of season 2814 02:14:16.880 --> 02:14:22.279 three and it basically picks up with Kurkova, and maybe 2815 02:14:22.560 --> 02:14:25.399 maybe there's an episode prior to the full arc of 2816 02:14:25.720 --> 02:14:27.399 the Island of Kirkco to like kind of give you 2817 02:14:27.439 --> 02:14:29.279 a little bit of the history because that was a 2818 02:14:29.359 --> 02:14:31.640 famous island that brought in like the New X Men 2819 02:14:31.680 --> 02:14:38.119 when claremont I started. Yeah, yep, yeah, I could totally 2820 02:14:38.159 --> 02:14:41.000 see them doing this in the animated animation. So I'm 2821 02:14:41.039 --> 02:14:42.159 going fact on it for sure. 2822 02:14:43.680 --> 02:14:45.760 It just seems like it'd be better than them doing 2823 02:14:45.800 --> 02:14:49.199 that than Onslought, even though I propose had a a 2824 02:14:49.239 --> 02:14:50.760 couple of weeks ago as a factor of fiction that 2825 02:14:50.800 --> 02:14:52.439 Onslaught will be a villain at some point. 2826 02:14:53.079 --> 02:14:56.840 Yeah, maybe, and then we could get rebirth and you know, 2827 02:14:57.119 --> 02:14:58.359 live Field Captain America. 2828 02:14:58.840 --> 02:15:03.039 Yeah, there we go, all right, Well, David will have 2829 02:15:03.119 --> 02:15:04.760 to put out there at that point, so they have 2830 02:15:04.840 --> 02:15:08.000 to check the Twitter at that point for for his 2831 02:15:08.239 --> 02:15:13.279 so but but yeah, so that is volume three hundred, gentlemen. 2832 02:15:14.159 --> 02:15:17.319 You know, we it's like we said, it's it's been 2833 02:15:17.359 --> 02:15:19.840 an amazing road. You know, they say podcasts, you know, 2834 02:15:19.960 --> 02:15:21.680 live or die, if you can get past ten, you're 2835 02:15:21.760 --> 02:15:23.920 you're better than the average. Well we've done three hundred, 2836 02:15:23.960 --> 02:15:27.279 and we've done even kind of side ones at that point, 2837 02:15:27.319 --> 02:15:32.479 combo episodes of SDCC and different different episodes. But from 2838 02:15:33.199 --> 02:15:36.880 Travis to Brent to David, it has been an amazing 2839 02:15:37.000 --> 02:15:39.640 journey with each and every one of you. You know, 2840 02:15:39.960 --> 02:15:41.720 I know we get to come back on every once 2841 02:15:41.760 --> 02:15:45.399 in a while, you know, but this the the friendships 2842 02:15:45.439 --> 02:15:47.880 we all have had because of this show is what 2843 02:15:48.159 --> 02:15:50.279 matters to me and what I you know, even though 2844 02:15:50.279 --> 02:15:51.920 I say goodbye, the world's fine, It's true believers. This 2845 02:15:52.039 --> 02:15:53.800 is the one I've I've wanted to hold on to 2846 02:15:54.159 --> 02:15:56.279 just because of it's just fun to hang out with 2847 02:15:56.359 --> 02:15:57.199 my friends every week. 2848 02:15:57.600 --> 02:16:00.399 So yeah, no, doing this makes me this doing this 2849 02:16:00.520 --> 02:16:03.720 and this was a great episode. Hopefully won't be episode 2850 02:16:03.760 --> 02:16:06.279 four hundred when we all get back together. Even if 2851 02:16:06.319 --> 02:16:08.239 it's Tryna baby once a year, we should try to 2852 02:16:08.319 --> 02:16:09.239 like get get up. 2853 02:16:09.560 --> 02:16:11.840 I have an idea to propose out there offcast, because 2854 02:16:11.840 --> 02:16:13.720 I don't want to promise anything to get people's hopes up. 2855 02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:17.720 So okay, there you go. So but no, this is great. David. 2856 02:16:17.880 --> 02:16:19.720 Sorry your hotel sucks, but it's great to have you 2857 02:16:19.760 --> 02:16:20.520 on for the first hour. 2858 02:16:20.560 --> 02:16:22.399 It was hopefully you like our list. 2859 02:16:22.760 --> 02:16:24.600 Yeah, it's funny the ranking because I've never do I 2860 02:16:24.640 --> 02:16:27.439 don't do too many like together rankings. Right. The only 2861 02:16:27.520 --> 02:16:28.880 time we do that really geek Ers, when we do 2862 02:16:28.920 --> 02:16:30.680 our Gold and Geek Awards stuff. We went to debate 2863 02:16:30.800 --> 02:16:33.440 actual rankings. I haven't so that was fun. And yeah, 2864 02:16:33.440 --> 02:16:35.559 I'm excited to see where goes. And yeah, hopefully if 2865 02:16:36.000 --> 02:16:38.959 as of right now they're saying they're doing a Marvel panel, 2866 02:16:39.000 --> 02:16:41.079 if it is big, we will do our We haven't 2867 02:16:41.079 --> 02:16:42.319 got to do one in a long time. I think 2868 02:16:42.319 --> 02:16:44.440 that's the last time me and Brent actually podcasts together 2869 02:16:44.479 --> 02:16:47.079 when they did the Doom reveal. Right, I think that's 2870 02:16:47.079 --> 02:16:48.799 the last SDCC. 2871 02:16:48.879 --> 02:16:50.440 I know I should know this, but I don't remember it. 2872 02:16:50.559 --> 02:16:54.040 July fifth or sorry, twenty fifth. I think, Okay, yeah, 2873 02:16:54.159 --> 02:16:56.959 that's your Baturday. Yeah again, we're we'll see what happens. 2874 02:16:57.000 --> 02:16:58.799 There's rumors trailers, but yeah, I think that's the last 2875 02:16:58.840 --> 02:17:00.559 time we were on a stream to get Brent was 2876 02:17:00.680 --> 02:17:03.319 when they did the whole Doomsday reveal and the Russes 2877 02:17:03.360 --> 02:17:05.760 came back because we were watching that, and uh, yeah, 2878 02:17:05.840 --> 02:17:09.079 it's gonna be It's gonna be a very interesting time. 2879 02:17:09.120 --> 02:17:10.959 I think the next time we're all together whenever that is. 2880 02:17:11.079 --> 02:17:13.879 But it's an interesting year with Spiermen up and Doomsday 2881 02:17:13.879 --> 02:17:16.479 and I can't wait and I can't wait to listen 2882 02:17:16.520 --> 02:17:18.920 weekly too. You and Brett? Are you and David cover 2883 02:17:19.000 --> 02:17:19.200 it all? 2884 02:17:22.280 --> 02:17:24.000 You know, I'm glad it worked out for me to 2885 02:17:24.159 --> 02:17:26.879 be able to come back and join tonight. Is a 2886 02:17:26.920 --> 02:17:29.520 fun topic to go through, and I was like, you know, 2887 02:17:29.680 --> 02:17:32.600 we I was like, this is going to take five hours. 2888 02:17:32.760 --> 02:17:35.319 When we debated Infinity Warning game for so long, but 2889 02:17:35.440 --> 02:17:36.680 we got through it. We got through it. 2890 02:17:37.360 --> 02:17:38.079 Yeah, that did take it. 2891 02:17:38.200 --> 02:17:39.959 I was like, oh, it's like those should have been 2892 02:17:40.000 --> 02:17:42.559 the easy ones. Those are supposed to be locks and 2893 02:17:43.719 --> 02:17:47.799 and but no, no, it was fun. It was good 2894 02:17:47.840 --> 02:17:50.600 and looking at this list and I'm just like, it's 2895 02:17:50.639 --> 02:17:53.479 a fun list. It falls under the category of it's 2896 02:17:53.520 --> 02:17:55.040 not my list, but it's a fun list and I 2897 02:17:55.159 --> 02:17:58.559 respect it. So I'm glad I was able to join 2898 02:17:58.639 --> 02:18:01.680 in and it was fun to get on there with 2899 02:18:01.760 --> 02:18:04.559 David for a while before again, his hotel WiFi sucked, 2900 02:18:05.000 --> 02:18:08.840 so everybody tweeted David that he needs better hotel WiFi 2901 02:18:08.959 --> 02:18:09.319 next time. 2902 02:18:09.600 --> 02:18:13.760 Yeah, his ends are open, so's send whatever you want there. 2903 02:18:13.840 --> 02:18:17.479 So absolutely, Yeah, like emoji's a Wi Fi or gifts 2904 02:18:17.520 --> 02:18:19.840 a Wi Fi or something. Yeah, don't even tell them 2905 02:18:19.879 --> 02:18:20.520 why you're doing it. 2906 02:18:20.719 --> 02:18:22.000 Just do it. Just do it. 2907 02:18:22.440 --> 02:18:25.680 So but all right, gentl and tell people how they 2908 02:18:25.719 --> 02:18:26.200 can follow you. 2909 02:18:27.680 --> 02:18:30.319 Trast me Snaile. I'm always talking over at geek First, 2910 02:18:30.360 --> 02:18:33.000 doing lots of stuff. The only thing I'll promote big 2911 02:18:33.079 --> 02:18:35.559 time there is always say Gimbida will be celebrating eleven 2912 02:18:35.639 --> 02:18:38.159 years geek First. That's always a fun day. We're gonna 2913 02:18:38.159 --> 02:18:40.440 be doing lightsaber duels for the first ever geek first. 2914 02:18:40.559 --> 02:18:42.600 I'm very excited for that because we all were in 2915 02:18:42.639 --> 02:18:44.360 a room where like, how we never done this. We're 2916 02:18:44.360 --> 02:18:46.479 a bunch of idiots that love Star Wars. How we 2917 02:18:46.639 --> 02:18:49.440 never even had we do fake restidae have We're not 2918 02:18:49.520 --> 02:18:51.639 doing that. So it's always a fun day where we 2919 02:18:51.719 --> 02:18:55.360 go for about ten hours and just celebrate the yearly anniversary. 2920 02:18:55.399 --> 02:18:57.559 And I'm not to described always talking over there and 2921 02:18:57.680 --> 02:18:58.360 reviewing stuff. 2922 02:18:58.440 --> 02:19:00.760 So when I heard you say the light saber jewels, 2923 02:19:00.799 --> 02:19:03.079 I'm like, Oh, somebody's getting hurt. Someone's gonna know. 2924 02:19:03.079 --> 02:19:05.600 What's gonna happen, and I just don't know who's gonna be. 2925 02:19:05.760 --> 02:19:07.639 I think it's gonna gonna be Taylor. 2926 02:19:07.799 --> 02:19:09.079 It's gonna be Yeah. 2927 02:19:09.559 --> 02:19:12.239 See, it's gonna be Dylan because he leaks. He likes 2928 02:19:12.239 --> 02:19:14.040 Star Wars the least, so he's just gonna be bitter 2929 02:19:14.159 --> 02:19:16.680 if he gets damn. 2930 02:19:17.040 --> 02:19:18.959 So Taylor is gonna try to be like fancy with 2931 02:19:19.079 --> 02:19:19.680 it or whatever. 2932 02:19:20.319 --> 02:19:22.040 Yeah, it's gonna go horribly wrong. 2933 02:19:22.200 --> 02:19:23.559 You're just gonna smack them. 2934 02:19:23.680 --> 02:19:25.200 I have a strategy. I'm not gonna reveal it on 2935 02:19:25.239 --> 02:19:26.639 their but I have a strategy going in. So I 2936 02:19:26.639 --> 02:19:28.840 think it's gonna work for the first two matchups, so. 2937 02:19:31.040 --> 02:19:34.000 I'm Brint tech Prime. I honestly don't know if my 2938 02:19:34.079 --> 02:19:36.280 dms are open, so I guess if you want to 2939 02:19:36.319 --> 02:19:40.440 send one, you can find out. But I know, I 2940 02:19:40.559 --> 02:19:42.879 know I get d ms from Jim Scroggs on Blue Sky, 2941 02:19:43.120 --> 02:19:47.399 But other than that, I'm print tech Prime everywhere, so 2942 02:19:47.799 --> 02:19:49.360 you know that's where I can be found. 2943 02:19:49.719 --> 02:19:52.200 And you can follow David at the Phantom. You can 2944 02:19:52.239 --> 02:19:54.760 follow me on Twitter and all the socials at Chris Balga. 2945 02:19:54.879 --> 02:19:57.200 You can follow the podcast on Twitter at Marvel a podcast, 2946 02:19:57.360 --> 02:20:00.319 the Gigles of Alliance Network g way Pod new work. 2947 02:20:01.000 --> 02:20:04.760 As always, thank our sponsor, panel Boundcomics dot com. Use 2948 02:20:04.799 --> 02:20:07.000 it code Marvel g gua A checkout to get two 2949 02:20:07.000 --> 02:20:10.239 dollars off every single or GUA sit to get five 2950 02:20:10.280 --> 02:20:12.120 percent off when you order four or more books together. 2951 02:20:13.000 --> 02:20:15.600 You can email the show at Marvel Allonce podcast at 2952 02:20:15.639 --> 02:20:17.639 gmail dot com. Feel free to tweet email if we won, 2953 02:20:17.719 --> 02:20:22.239 if ide feedback. David and my dms are definitely open 2954 02:20:22.280 --> 02:20:23.959 at that point, so at least I can say that 2955 02:20:25.600 --> 02:20:28.959 and continue to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 2956 02:20:29.040 --> 02:20:31.239 Amazon is wherever you get to your cat podcast. We 2957 02:20:31.360 --> 02:20:34.159 greatly appreciate. Thank you all for those of you who 2958 02:20:34.239 --> 02:20:36.520 have been with us since the beginning middle or you're 2959 02:20:36.559 --> 02:20:40.159 just discovering us at episode three hundred, our patrons, everyone, 2960 02:20:40.760 --> 02:20:44.559 thank you for making Marvel Alliance a weekly listen to 2961 02:20:44.600 --> 02:20:46.639 you to my best friend Truck out there, I hope 2962 02:20:46.680 --> 02:20:48.760 you enjoy the crunchy facts out there that we put 2963 02:20:48.799 --> 02:20:51.959 out there for you tonight. And stay safe out there everyone, 2964 02:20:52.079 --> 02:20:57.639 and at stand the man would say, excelsior, true believers. Again, 2965 02:20:57.639 --> 02:20:59.799 it wouldn't be a Marvel Alliance without a post credits 2966 02:20:59.799 --> 02:21:02.079 of USh Net was created by David, who unfortunately is 2967 02:21:02.159 --> 02:21:06.239 still not here. He says, well, the epic failure that 2968 02:21:06.559 --> 02:21:09.840 was Doomsday at south By south West surprise, where is 2969 02:21:09.959 --> 02:21:13.479 the next logical place for the real doomsday reveals? So 2970 02:21:13.680 --> 02:21:16.600 for those that don't know know anything what we're talking about, well, 2971 02:21:16.680 --> 02:21:19.840 the Russo's put out there a big surprise coming at 2972 02:21:19.879 --> 02:21:23.600 south By Southwest Doomsday related and it ended up being 2973 02:21:23.760 --> 02:21:28.239 a pop up coffee shop doom Doom related with them 2974 02:21:28.319 --> 02:21:28.760 showing up. 2975 02:21:29.040 --> 02:21:32.319 Technically, the surprise was that Robert Downey showed up to 2976 02:21:32.319 --> 02:21:35.840 the screening. That they did say that, but honestly that's 2977 02:21:35.879 --> 02:21:39.319 not what got the press coverage was the coffee shop. 2978 02:21:39.719 --> 02:21:42.360 I think it's definitely Comic Con and it's a double 2979 02:21:42.399 --> 02:21:45.040 where the crowd gets it first and then we do 2980 02:21:45.200 --> 02:21:47.840 get online because the week after Spider Man. So I 2981 02:21:47.879 --> 02:21:50.079 think that makes sense. I think that you get that 2982 02:21:50.200 --> 02:21:52.319 trailer out, you give it the week before Spider Member 2983 02:21:52.360 --> 02:21:55.120 that's also playing in front of Spider Man. I don't 2984 02:21:55.120 --> 02:21:57.520 think there's a world that they would have Spiderman go 2985 02:21:57.639 --> 02:21:59.000 out and there's no Avengers trailer out. 2986 02:21:59.000 --> 02:22:02.879 There is absolute that is the absolute last place it 2987 02:22:02.959 --> 02:22:05.959 will go. It will go as and by that I 2988 02:22:06.040 --> 02:22:08.959 mean on the calendar, it will go as early as 2989 02:22:09.879 --> 02:22:12.000 right before Supergirl or right before the Odyssey. 2990 02:22:14.479 --> 02:22:15.760 It's not on Spider Many. 2991 02:22:17.920 --> 02:22:19.879 I could see them doing it before Supergirl because there's 2992 02:22:19.879 --> 02:22:23.360 obviously the Venn diagram of overlapping that audience. There's a circle, 2993 02:22:23.680 --> 02:22:26.120 and it would I could also see it going before 2994 02:22:26.120 --> 02:22:27.840 the Odyssey, like them holding it back and do that 2995 02:22:27.879 --> 02:22:30.040 because that's going to be a really big movie as well, 2996 02:22:30.559 --> 02:22:32.840 And so like those are those are your time? So 2997 02:22:33.000 --> 02:22:35.479 like those movies come out on a Friday, you know, 2998 02:22:35.600 --> 02:22:38.799 the Thursday previews, the Monday, maybe the Tuesday before those 2999 02:22:38.920 --> 02:22:39.879 is when I would expect it. 3000 02:22:40.319 --> 02:22:45.280 Yeah, I could easily see them pulling a a after 3001 02:22:45.760 --> 02:22:49.719 No Way Home and the trailer for Doomsday is that 3002 02:22:49.879 --> 02:22:52.319 the is the post credits for friend? 3003 02:22:52.639 --> 02:22:54.399 Really that's interesting. 3004 02:22:54.520 --> 02:22:57.479 You could do that, Actually, I could see them doing that. 3005 02:22:57.559 --> 02:22:59.680 I don't know they did that with Multiverse and Madness. 3006 02:22:59.719 --> 02:23:02.319 I don't don't see Marvel doing that with the Avengers though. 3007 02:23:02.600 --> 02:23:03.959 They want those YouTube views. 3008 02:23:04.120 --> 02:23:05.440 No, I mean they want the YouTube boots. But I 3009 02:23:05.479 --> 02:23:07.360 can also see you know, not to agree with both 3010 02:23:07.360 --> 02:23:09.120 of you both bring up very good points. Just to 3011 02:23:09.200 --> 02:23:12.360 be throwing another thing out there. I'm not saying that 3012 02:23:12.479 --> 02:23:12.879 they would. 3013 02:23:13.040 --> 02:23:14.719 They could get the views on the Monday, though. They 3014 02:23:14.760 --> 02:23:17.520 could literally just have the postcrit which is exclusive for 3015 02:23:17.559 --> 02:23:20.879 four days. You did make a good point brand about Odyssey, 3016 02:23:20.920 --> 02:23:22.280 because that is a big one. I don't think they 3017 02:23:22.319 --> 02:23:24.680 worry about Supergirl. I don't. I think that's gonna be 3018 02:23:24.719 --> 02:23:27.280 seen by its pocket of people that are already seeing 3019 02:23:27.319 --> 02:23:29.719 Spider Man like our Avengers like. You don't need to 3020 02:23:29.719 --> 02:23:32.520 convince them. I think there is a ven Diagram Odyssey, 3021 02:23:32.600 --> 02:23:35.120 but there's still some people that will go, oh, there's 3022 02:23:35.120 --> 02:23:37.040 a new Avengers movie out where. I don't think anyone 3023 02:23:37.159 --> 02:23:41.799 seeing Supergirl will go, oh, there's a new Avengers. Yeah, well, honesty, 3024 02:23:42.000 --> 02:23:43.159 that's gonna have a lot of people that are just 3025 02:23:43.200 --> 02:23:46.440 going to see Dale or for Nolan, right, So yeah, 3026 02:23:46.479 --> 02:23:50.280 honesty does make it tricky, But I do like Chris idea. 3027 02:23:50.319 --> 02:23:52.120 I could see that right up as the end credit 3028 02:23:52.200 --> 02:23:54.879 because also their end credits lately they've been choosing to 3029 02:23:54.959 --> 02:23:56.799 be seen from other movies or not at all, like 3030 02:23:56.879 --> 02:23:59.840 Daredel wouldn't have one No Punisher. They've been very lack 3031 02:24:00.200 --> 02:24:02.600 on the Chris, which is fine because they put a 3032 02:24:02.680 --> 02:24:04.040 lot out there that didn't have much. 3033 02:24:04.120 --> 02:24:07.239 But when they did that with No Way Home, No 3034 02:24:07.280 --> 02:24:09.760 Way Home came out in December. Yeah, so there wasn't 3035 02:24:09.879 --> 02:24:13.120 there was time. There wasn't that much. Like I don't know, 3036 02:24:13.239 --> 02:24:16.600 with Comic Con being right before it, I still think 3037 02:24:16.639 --> 02:24:19.280 that is the last as in last place on the calendar. 3038 02:24:19.680 --> 02:24:23.239 I would be absolutely stunned and almost call it a 3039 02:24:23.319 --> 02:24:25.719 failure by Marvel's point if they do not put it 3040 02:24:25.799 --> 02:24:28.200 out for Comic Con. Yeah, I think I think comes 3041 02:24:28.319 --> 02:24:31.319 zero chance that people in Hall h will they'll see it. 3042 02:24:31.639 --> 02:24:34.840 Yeah, Comic Con is the I think the easy that's 3043 02:24:34.879 --> 02:24:36.799 where the next one is gonna be that's most logical 3044 02:24:36.879 --> 02:24:40.079 place to the biggest stage they return there. That's that's 3045 02:24:40.120 --> 02:24:42.040 what you do. I mean, that's how you announce Downy 3046 02:24:42.319 --> 02:24:46.760 coming back as doctor Doom. That's that would be another 3047 02:24:46.799 --> 02:24:47.680 full circle moment. 3048 02:24:48.159 --> 02:24:51.079 Yeah, that's my prediction. Honesty does make it tricky, But 3049 02:24:51.159 --> 02:24:54.200 I will officially just say comic Con. I'll say, they'll 3050 02:24:54.239 --> 02:24:55.639 do it online, or they'll do it and then we'll 3051 02:24:55.639 --> 02:24:57.520 get online right away. They did that a couple times 3052 02:24:57.559 --> 02:24:59.799 back in the day where they still release them publicly. 3053 02:25:00.000 --> 02:25:02.559 I think they would, and then Spider Man would get 3054 02:25:02.600 --> 02:25:03.760 that trail of the next week. 3055 02:25:03.879 --> 02:25:06.959 But I'll officially say before Odyssey. But I am not 3056 02:25:07.040 --> 02:25:07.879 willing to pizza about it. 3057 02:25:09.120 --> 02:25:12.040 I will pizza about it. We wake up tomorrow, I'm yeah, 3058 02:25:12.040 --> 02:25:14.159 I just drop it. Yeah, got mad about the people, 3059 02:25:14.159 --> 02:25:15.079 got mad about the coffee. 3060 02:25:15.120 --> 02:25:17.639 Let him happen. Yeah, But all right, well, we will 3061 02:25:17.719 --> 02:25:21.600 see you next week and David should be back at 3062 02:25:21.639 --> 02:25:23.879 that point. But uh for episode three oh one, as 3063 02:25:23.959 --> 02:25:27.639 we march towards At this point, we are marching towards 3064 02:25:27.680 --> 02:25:32.120 next Man ninety seven July first, So all right, stay 3065 02:25:32.159 --> 02:25:33.680 safe out there, We'll see you soon. Bye bye. 3066 02:25:42.280 --> 02:25:42.959 I'm supposed to it,