WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.599 Mac, great news. The Christmas stuff is up without a 2 00:00:04.679 --> 00:00:06.879 hitch Ooh yeah. 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:09.679 If you're new to the program, here, I'd like to 4 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:13.160 introduce you to Goo, who puts up his Christmas tree 5 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:15.039 the first weekend of November every year. 6 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:16.960 Just a Christmas girly. What do you want from me? 7 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:21.679 Is your topper still the Iron Man? 8 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:24.160 Yep, it's the Iron Man. But what I'm thinking about 9 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:25.879 doing this year is, because he has his hand up 10 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:28.199 like this, I'm gonna cut a hole in his palm 11 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:30.399 and then stick a Christmas tree light through it like 12 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:31.440 he's shooting a laser. 13 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:33.240 Ah. Yes, nice. 14 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:36.520 Also, so you weren't here the day after Halloween, I 15 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:38.119 was going to discuss this with you. Then I had 16 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:40.640 Nick Fryer filling and we had a time. We had 17 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:41.280 a great time. 18 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:46.439 Nick Fryar is a man who writes and speaks for 19 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:50.039 a living, and boy does he have trouble understanding the 20 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:52.960 English language. He is an interesting fellaw. 21 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:55.719 Number one, he is my favorite character on the Mac 22 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:59.520 and Goo program, and that includes us. And then two, 23 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.039 so you had so you listened to it right? 24 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:02.399 Yes? 25 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:07.159 Where do you stand on the spelling of key New? 26 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:08.560 Was I correct? 27 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:11.959 I think Friar was right about that, so you could. 28 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:15.159 I saw your argument, but I think if you just 29 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:19.000 do K, it might be pronounced more like k e h. 30 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:21.079 I think if you wanted the key sound, you needed 31 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:22.840 the k e e or k e. 32 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:24.799 Y k e hy. I said that as I was thinking, 33 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:27.000 I know, he should have definitely have said key. I 34 00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:29.840 don't know why he would think ka, But I'll go 35 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:31.439 ahead and just accept that for what it is. I'll 36 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:34.040 take the l I will be the bigger man. 37 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:38.159 Yes, to be fair, half the headlines right for me. 38 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:40.560 I also don't understand when I'm reading them, and then 39 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:42.560 when I'm saying them out loud, then they sort of 40 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:43.400 sort of make sense. 41 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:46.480 Roll with it, baby, Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Also, so 42 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:50.120 Halloween is over. I lost my costume competition at work, 43 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:52.959 and I think the thing that we all need to 44 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:55.959 point to is that I was not doing this for 45 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:59.879 a demo of men aged thirty five to forty two. 46 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:02.239 You gotta know your crowd, gotta know my crowd. 47 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:06.200 And went as Casey Jones specifically from the nineteen eighty 48 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:07.879 seven animated series. 49 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:11.000 Did You Make the Winners? Platform the top three to no. 50 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:13.840 I came nowhere close to it. As a matter of fact, Wow, 51 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:17.280 I lost to a Ronald McDonald who did a fantastic 52 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:19.319 job with the whole costume in the face pen. I 53 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:23.400 lost to someone who just bought a Batman costume. People 54 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:24.719 know who Batman is? I get it. 55 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:25.919 Which Batman was? 56 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:28.560 He? Roughly he was Robert Pattinson. 57 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:32.240 Oh so a real darkish. 58 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:33.879 Yeah, the dark one. And he did the eye makeup. 59 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:36.680 So credit there, I'll give him credit for that. And 60 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:39.919 then a team of eight one third place, and I 61 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:41.879 would assume that they all voted for themselves. 62 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:44.719 A team of eight, Yes, well, I do get I 63 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:47.560 appreciate the coordination of eight people on the same page. However, 64 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:48.360 it's kind of cheating. 65 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:52.120 Well, yes, And I would also think that you would 66 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:53.840 do the old Hey, if you vote for me, I'll 67 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:56.599 vote for you, and then you still vote for yourself, 68 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:59.400 right right? Have you ever voted? I know you've played 69 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:01.639 on teams, You've you've done sports. 70 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:02.759 Yeah. 71 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:04.759 Did you ever vote yourself as captain? 72 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.960 No? I don't think I ever cared enough to be 73 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:13.520 officially named as a captain. I think I was. I 74 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:15.039 would speak up every now and then, but I was 75 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:17.439 more of a lead by example type of guy. Then 76 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:19.199 I think I'm more of a vocal type of leader. 77 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:23.639 You're a real Jason Tatum always but voting for yourself. 78 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:26.199 And I remember one specific kid that did this for 79 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:29.199 the baseball team. Uh, it makes you a real fucking asshole, 80 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:29.919 that's what it does. 81 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.759 So also with my Halloween costume, I put it on 82 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:35.560 at my house before, you know, leaving for work, and 83 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:37.879 my wife said to me, I have no idea what 84 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:41.439 you're supposed to be, which should have been an early 85 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:42.479 sign not to do it. 86 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:47.080 Yeah, being that the person you've spent every waking day 87 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:47.439 of your. 88 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:49.879 Life decade last I don't know, yeah, last decade. 89 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:53.319 Ten years. If she doesn't recognize your Casey Jones, then 90 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:55.800 I'm not sure anyone you work with will. So what 91 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:56.800 did you get for? Like? 92 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.199 Did people ask you? What did I get for? What 93 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:01.360 did I get for the last two I got nothing? 94 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:09.919 Oh ah, I got spooky Golfer I got Someone asked 95 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:16.800 me Fellows from Street Fighter? Oh I got someone asked 96 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:18.959 me if I was the if I was the Sportsman 97 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:21.600 or something like that from DC Comics. I can't think 98 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:23.399 of what the name is, but there was a character 99 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:25.079 that's kind of like Casey Jones. 100 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:28.439 Buttles now technically a part of DC. 101 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:32.079 No there, so they're still idw It's a whole different thing. 102 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:35.439 But also I got a lot of people just having 103 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:38.439 no idea. And then I was like, all right, no 104 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:40.600 one knows, Like less than twenty percent of my co 105 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:41.920 workers knew who I was. 106 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:45.319 Yeah, that's not great, No, and that's on me. That's like, 107 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.279 you know, you're thinking you've got a great joke and 108 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:50.199 then telling someone, then you got to explain the joke 109 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:51.079 because they don't laugh. 110 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:52.879 And that was the whole thing too, is that when 111 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:55.240 someone said to me, oh, what are you, I would 112 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.759 say I'm not going to answer. You have to figure 113 00:04:57.800 --> 00:04:59.720 it out. And if you don't know, I didn't do 114 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:13.959 my job, do some homework. One good, three, Yeah, jobs three, 115 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:19.639 King of Queen MARYL. 116 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:28.560 Street entry go and I'm Max and we are the 117 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:29.800 Mac and Goo program. 118 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:35.319 We are and down down down the road down, which 119 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:38.199 is Riches Road. Good. 120 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:41.959 We are a couple of hashtag agathoughts. That's right, I'm 121 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:43.800 stealing that from screen crush. 122 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:45.240 I don't like that one. 123 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:50.199 Go ahead thoughts for Agatha. All along we are discussing, 124 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:54.040 if it wasn't clear already, the latest entry into the 125 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:58.879 Marvel Cinematic Universe, Agatha all along. This is the forty 126 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:02.759 fourth entry overall into the MCU. It's a lot, but 127 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:05.959 forty forty fifth for us because we were splitting the 128 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:09.079 two seasons of Loki. Uh so that's thirty four movies 129 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:10.959 and eleven seasons of television. 130 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:12.040 Go, it's a lot. 131 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:16.319 It's a lot. It's a lot. And when we got 132 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:19.879 to endgame, I think that was like twenty one or 133 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:21.279 something like that or close to that. 134 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:25.519 Yeah, I like double that now. Yeah, sort of sort 135 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:27.199 of crazy. It's like rabbits. 136 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.399 It's it's been a long whine. 137 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:31.120 Oh my god. 138 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:31.879 Road. 139 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:34.439 Was this song the song that you're singing right now, 140 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:37.000 the Witches Road? Did you find it to be an earworm? 141 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:39.120 I was actually singing the Long and Winding Road, but 142 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:40.000 the Beatles. 143 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:42.120 There they're doing Long and Winding Witching Road. 144 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:45.800 I would say, Uh, it's sort of caught on to 145 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.560 me by the end, especially after the finale when you 146 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:51.120 when it was there's a bit of a thing there. Yeah, 147 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:52.639 I kind of liked it by the end, didn't care 148 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:54.399 for it for the most part, and then by the 149 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:56.160 end it wrote me in so yes, a bit of 150 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:56.680 an airworm. 151 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:00.360 May I pay the show a compliment. Sure, Sure, I 152 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.439 think it's different enough from the other Marvel properties. 153 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:07.120 I think what really helps this show was a low 154 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:10.959 bar for most people going in and go speaking to 155 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:13.639 that point, and I was gonna make this point in 156 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:17.199 a few minutes. I think what I'm discovering about myself. Yes, 157 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:21.040 as an MCU fan for the last I don't know, eleven, twelve, 158 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:24.800 thirteen years, now, I think I'm really starting to like 159 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:27.600 these sort of like quirky side quests in the MCU. 160 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:29.959 I've learned to appreciate them for what they are. 161 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:32.759 Because you've always hated them. You have always been like, Eh, 162 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:34.920 they're just kicking the can down the road. I don't 163 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:35.720 want these shit. 164 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:38.759 Well two things, Yeah. The number one, they've sort of 165 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:41.240 figured out how to use it to round out some 166 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:44.759 characters that they've introduced and or introduced characters that are 167 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:47.720 gonna play a role in the future. We think, instead 168 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:50.399 of sort of taking more known characters and shooting for 169 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:54.279 the stars, we've seen that really not work. However, you know, 170 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:59.079 Loki season one did so, I like, you know, the 171 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:01.879 downside of this is you get into shit that we 172 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:04.639 don't care about, like Echo, But this I felt like 173 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:08.279 did a good job of balancing that we cared enough 174 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:11.120 about where it was going and we cared enough about 175 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:14.000 the characters involved, whereas a show like Echo, which I 176 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:17.680 think was the most recent entry show wise, we just 177 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:20.680 didn't didn't care anything about that, and so I feel 178 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:23.439 like this one did that well enough anyways, at least 179 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:24.199 going into it. 180 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.079 Echo is a good one to bring up, because I 181 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:30.759 would say Echo, secret invasion, No it secret war, Sorry, 182 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.639 an invasion. There's a couple here that I would definitely 183 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:38.159 put below in the I don't care a meter, but 184 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:42.000 I definitely had that during this show. I definitely had 185 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:44.799 a lot of moments of just not caring about what 186 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:46.000 happens on this show. 187 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:49.519 I would say the only show going in that I 188 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:53.960 had lower expectations for were actually two Echo and She Hulk, 189 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.440 and I think very quickly, not very quickly, about three 190 00:08:57.480 --> 00:08:59.799 episodes in, it really wrote me in and I was 191 00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:03.480 really intrigued as to where this show was going. That 192 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:07.080 definitely helps how I view this show and how I 193 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:10.120 ended up sort of coming around and really liking this show. 194 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.840 But it's interesting to compare this to a show like 195 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:17.120 WandaVision by the same creator, Jack Schaeffer where we went 196 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:19.960 in with the highest of high of expectations and then 197 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.679 and that's sort of what I'm talking about, Like, they're 198 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:26.200 almost better off coming in with these you know, characters 199 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:28.000 off to the side and doing something with them instead 200 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.320 of coming in with the Scarlet Witch and kind of 201 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.360 disappointing people then and even though they by the end 202 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:35.200 of it, these shows might be kind of even for me. 203 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.120 So that's sort of what I'm getting at. 204 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:39.919 WandaVision did not disappoint WandaVision was great. 205 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:41.799 All right, I mean you were kind of disappointed by it. 206 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:43.759 So I was disappointed by the final episode of them 207 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:46.440 throwing light at each other after having eight episodes of 208 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:49.200 amazing storytelling. Yeah, I think the finale was a little 209 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:52.720 bit off. I will also say this is that so 210 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:55.200 what you want, what you're telling me what you want 211 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:57.639 is you want Kevin Fige to have a press conference 212 00:09:57.639 --> 00:10:00.440 before all of these shows every season premiere being like, 213 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:02.519 don't expect too much out of us, guys. 214 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:06.440 No, No, I want I think all of these shows 215 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:10.399 to strive for something like Hawkeye, where it rounds out 216 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:12.480 a known character that didn't get a ton of screen 217 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:16.440 time and introduces a new character like Hailey Steinfeld's character, 218 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:19.559 and that's basically what this show does. And I don't 219 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:21.360 think we sort of expected this show to do that 220 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:24.200 going in. Not to get into spoilers, but I think 221 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:27.440 if if this show, if all these Marvel shows shoot 222 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:30.440 for something like the Hawkeye formula, I think most of 223 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:31.440 them are going to work. 224 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:34.240 Yeah. I definitely want them to go into a season 225 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:36.639 with a goal, and I think this show did that, 226 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:39.639 and I think it hit all of its goals. Whether 227 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.039 like I think there were too many episodes. I think 228 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:43.360 you could have shaved this down a bit. 229 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:44.559 Oh, I don't know if I you agree. 230 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:48.000 Oh. I thought they meandered around the witch's road a bits, 231 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:50.799 but all to be fair, because I didn't like the 232 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:52.000 side characters. 233 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:55.679 I enjoy the side carriers characters. 234 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:59.960 That's because you love witches. You love witch craft. 235 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:03.279 Love witches or witchcraft? However, the craft is a cinematic class. 236 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:06.960 Back is boiling up of a witch's brew. Right now? 237 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:09.559 You yes, is anti witch, You're out? 238 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:13.279 I am anti magic. I think witches are very very boring. 239 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:18.519 I like magic. I so no because I liked I've 240 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.200 liked a lot of the magic that Doctor Strange did 241 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:25.320 an Infinity War like he did a bunch of cool tricks. 242 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:29.039 He didn't do as many of those tricks in Multiverse 243 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:31.279 of Madness. I was, so you were sitting next to 244 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:33.679 me during Infinity War the entire time. I'm like, fucking 245 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:36.600 sick trick. It's a sick trick. This one hundred and 246 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:39.360 fifty these guys, that's sick trick. Snakes, sick trick. 247 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:40.720 Good. 248 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:44.440 Yes, long is a TV force. Wait did I finish 249 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:46.559 my thought? Or do you interrupt me my thought? What 250 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:47.519 was I talking about? 251 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:49.120 It seems like you were meandering. 252 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:51.759 I was meandering around the fucking magic road. 253 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:55.559 Yeah, this is a TV fourteen I guess mini series. 254 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:57.240 I don't think we're getting a second season of this. 255 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:01.080 Actually, I've seen some talks about possible a second season. 256 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:04.080 I don't know if it would I think it if 257 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:06.320 they did a second season, it would be like how 258 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:10.360 Agatha is to WandaVision Like, it'd be characters from this 259 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:13.879 show spinning off and all nothing. Hold that thought, How 260 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:16.519 long I'm gonna forget you? Didn't? I think. 261 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:21.159 I think we see I did. Actually, I think we 262 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:24.799 see you a bit ago. I think we see vision 263 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:27.840 Quest do for this show? What this show did for WandaVision. 264 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:30.919 Oh Envision Quest is starting to shoot next year. That 265 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.879 was in the news, which is I think good news. 266 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:38.799 Yeah, I like agree, gou. This is an action adventure, comedy, drama, fantasy, 267 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:41.720 sci fi. A lot of things going on here, and 268 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.919 they did a decent job doing all sorts of stuff 269 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.559 in there as well. Sub genres. Never heard of either 270 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:49.639 of these two dark fantasy and supernatural fantasies. 271 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:51.320 I've heard of both of those if. 272 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:54.799 You're into those. Apparently it's present in this show. Good 273 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.600 There was nine Apple episodes in this totally three hundred 274 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:01.879 and seven minutes. Taking out the credits and the previews 275 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.679 and whatnot, that's the equivalent of five hours and seven 276 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:08.840 minutes of content. So this is essentially two movies long, 277 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:12.679 if not more of content. And now I would agree 278 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:16.960 that the beginning four episodes of this show have some 279 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:20.240 fluff in there. I'd have some bore, But once we 280 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:22.480 get to episode five, I think all the rest is 281 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:26.279 quite necessary and quite good. In fact, on roddy teazgew 282 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:28.919 eighty three percent from the critics, eighty two percent from 283 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:32.159 the audience audience. Score wise, that is tied for the 284 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:38.279 fifth highest behind Loki Season one, Hawkey, Moonnight, Oddly, WandaVision 285 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:42.159 fourth at eighty eight percent, and then this Loki Season two, Falcon, 286 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:45.200 and Winter Soldier all have eighty two. Below this is 287 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:48.159 Miss Marvel and then a steep drop off to Echo 288 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.399 Secret Invasion in Shee Hulk. On Metacritic, this has a 289 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:56.320 sixty six, which is seventh best, and that's behind Miss Marvel, WandaVision, 290 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:59.399 Loki Season one, Falcon, and Winter Soldier, Moonnight See Hulk 291 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:02.679 tied with Hawkeye for seventh and below it is Loki 292 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:06.919 Season two, Secret Invasion, and Echo. So the critics and 293 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:09.039 the audience is telling you this is roughly middle of 294 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:13.240 the pack for these Marvel shows, and I don't necessarily 295 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:15.799 disagree with that. I may I probably liked it more 296 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.120 than your average fan, but I think that's that's pretty close. Gou. 297 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:22.879 I've I mentioned her already. This show is created by 298 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.840 Jack Schaeffer. She's the show runner here, and she was 299 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:29.559 also the creator and showrunner on WandaVision, which I think 300 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:31.639 FIGI probably had more to do with than he does 301 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:33.679 in this. And she was also a writer on the 302 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:36.679 Black Widow movie. She is not going to be the 303 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:39.039 showrunner on vision Quest, but I do think she is 304 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:41.919 gonna have a pretty heavy hand in that as a producer. 305 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:45.759 We also got three different directors throughout this season, Rachel Goldberg, 306 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:48.879 Ganja Montero, Hell of a Name, and of course Jack 307 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:51.600 Schaeffer nine writing credits on the season we don't I'm 308 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:55.279 not going to run through those synopsis for Agatha all along. 309 00:14:55.879 --> 00:15:00.480 A spellbound Agatha Hartness regains freedom thanks to a team help. 310 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:04.039 Intrigued by his plea, she embarks on the Witch's road 311 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:08.799 trials to reclaim her powers and discover the team's motivations. Now, 312 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:13.000 I think the strength of this show throughout most of it, 313 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:16.039 especially once you get into the thick of it, is 314 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:19.240 you don't really know what's coming around the corner, and 315 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:23.080 so that level of intrigue really keeps you going and 316 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:26.080 sort of keeps you clicking on that show title every 317 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:28.879 Wednesday night or Thursday morning, whenever you'd go to watch it. 318 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:31.600 There's something to be said about the level of intrigue 319 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:32.440 that the show built. 320 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:37.519 I don't know, I think that because it definitely doesn't 321 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:42.320 have that intrigue that Wanda had, that Loki had. It's 322 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.639 that I think middle of the pack really when it 323 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:48.399 comes to everything going down. The report card fits the show. 324 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:51.960 Yes, but you're not. It shouldn't have the intrigue of 325 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:55.279 characters that we watched over a twenty movie run, you 326 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:57.480 know what I mean. So again, that sort of goes 327 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:00.320 into the expectation level of this. But then it to me, 328 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:05.559 the quality in the storytelling quality on your end equals 329 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:09.120 what those shows gave us. But we had higher expectations 330 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:09.879 for those shows. 331 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:12.559 I'll give the show credit to they had decent reveals, 332 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.279 or that they at least had a reveal at the 333 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:16.480 end of every episode. 334 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:19.480 They had a plethora of reveals, especially in the second 335 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:20.240 half of the season. 336 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:26.039 My issue though, is that after every reveal I'd go, oh, yeah, okay. 337 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:28.000 Yeah, I think this is a good issue. I think 338 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.080 there's a good issue on this one. I don't know 339 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:33.080 if so many people are echoing that same sentiment. 340 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:36.720 And while one of the reveals I think has cool 341 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:41.120 potential moving forward, you kind of have played your hand 342 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:43.000 with other characters that they need. 343 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:45.200 Say that again. 344 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:52.039 In English. While one character is very cool and there 345 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:55.399 is some cool stuff they can do with her, you've 346 00:16:55.440 --> 00:16:58.960 already used some of the characters that they would need 347 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:00.159 for their storylines. 348 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:02.720 Okay, I see what you're talking about there, but a 349 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:07.599 larger Marvel Infinity type level of story I get. I'm 350 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:11.119 picking up what you're putting down there, Goose. Speaking of characters, 351 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:15.119 this show stars Catherine Hahn as Agatha Harkness. Of course, 352 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:18.839 we saw her in WandaVision, Joe Locke as the team, 353 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:20.200 the mysterious. 354 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:22.880 Team, not just a team, some of some of that when. 355 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:27.720 We get the spoilers, Sashier Zamada as Jennifer Kale, Ali 356 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:32.880 On as Alice Gulliver, Patty Lapone as Lilia Calderu, Deborah 357 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:35.559 Joe Rupp reprising her role as Missus Hart. We saw 358 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:38.759 her in Wanda Vision. And then we have Aubrey Plaza 359 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:41.559 in here is Rio Vidal a new edition. And then 360 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:44.599 we also get the Salem Seven here that are tied 361 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:52.200 into Agatha's backstory. And these seven things are vertical, Vertigo, coyote, crow, fox, 362 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:55.079 al rat, snake. I guess that makes Vertigo the bees 363 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:59.119 the bees thing we saw, which is I gotta say, 364 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:02.519 if if there was a little bit of disappointment in 365 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:05.799 this show, it's that these things are introduced very early 366 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:08.279 in the season and they don't really end up meaning 367 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:10.640 anything at all. They were sort of a red herring, 368 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:11.839 I guess. 369 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:13.759 Right, But did you really need to pay off to 370 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:16.079 these or are you happy with where the show took 371 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:16.720 you instead? 372 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:18.960 No, I'm happy with where the show went, but I 373 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:23.240 also think we probably needed more of some of that 374 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:27.079 background with Agatha Rio and the sale seven, a little 375 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:30.480 more fleshing out there, But to that point we already 376 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:33.640 we got five hours of content as it was Gou. 377 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.440 I'm not gonna speak too much pre spoilers here, but 378 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:40.720 I just got to say this show ends up serving 379 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:44.440 as a backdoor pilot for a very notable character in 380 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:47.240 the comics, not one that I was very aware of, 381 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:49.720 but I became aware of these last couple of years. 382 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:54.480 Aubrey Plaza's introduction as this Rio Vidal character is awesome. 383 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:57.720 She's great in it. It is the perfect character for Aubrey. 384 00:18:57.359 --> 00:18:58.640 Play's practical effects. Too. 385 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:03.039 Good job, Yes, really really good job. Episodes seven and 386 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:07.079 eight were awesome, especially episode seven. Episode seven was one 387 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:08.799 of the better episodes of television I've seen in the 388 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:12.640 last couple of years, and overall, I enjoyed seven and 389 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:15.559 a half of the nine episodes. I really enjoyed this 390 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:19.000 season much more than I anticipated going in, And once again, 391 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:22.920 I think I'm sort of discovering about myself as an 392 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:28.359 MCU viewer that I do like these quirky side quests, 393 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:32.200 not too crazy, not Echo level, but stuff that had 394 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:35.440 somewhat meaning already built in and then building upon that, 395 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:38.599 whereas Echo had nothing going in and built nothing on it. 396 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:40.759 So that's the distinction I want to make there. 397 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:42.480 That Go also ruined Kingpin. 398 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:46.759 Echo did ruin a pretty well liked character, you're. 399 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:49.599 Correct, and Echo tried some new stuff too. I just 400 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:51.400 don't think it paid off at all, some of the 401 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:53.720