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<v Speaker 1>In March nineteen eighty four, coal miners in Britain walked

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<v Speaker 1>out on strike against the pit closure plan of Margaret

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<v Speaker 1>Thatcher's Conservative government. Miners, wives and other women started support

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<v Speaker 1>groups up and down the country which were instrumental in

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<v Speaker 1>helping the workers hold out for nearly a year in

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<v Speaker 1>an iconic dispute which changed Britain forever. This is working

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<v Speaker 1>class history. Now, before we get into the main episode,

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<v Speaker 1>some eagle eared listeners may remember hearing our episode about

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<v Speaker 1>women in the minor strike before. Now, like all of

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<v Speaker 1>our original episodes, it was basically made up of raw

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<v Speaker 1>audio from our interview so there wasn't any narrative to

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<v Speaker 1>fill gaps or explain context and kind of draw the

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<v Speaker 1>story together into a whole. So, in addition to working

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<v Speaker 1>in the new narrative format we use for all of

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<v Speaker 1>our later episodes. So the interview audio today is going

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully tell the story in a more cohesive manner. So

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<v Speaker 1>class history link in the show notes. We're working on

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast mini series about the MINUS strike from the

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of MINUS themselves at the moment, So for today,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to give a very brief bit of

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<v Speaker 1>the historical background. At the beginning of the nineteen eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>coal miners in the National Union of Mine Workers NUM

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<v Speaker 1>were the best organized and most militant section of the

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<v Speaker 1>working class in Britain. As detailed in our episode eighty one,

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<v Speaker 1>miners had held successful nationwide strikes in nineteen seventy two

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<v Speaker 1>and nineteen seventy four, when they won big pay increases

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<v Speaker 1>and brought down the Conservative government of Edward Heath. With

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<v Speaker 1>the election of Thatcher in nineteen seventy nine. Her Conservative

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<v Speaker 1>Party were determined to reshape the UK from a more

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<v Speaker 1>social democratic state with high levels of state ownership and

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<v Speaker 1>where working people were organized and had some economic power,

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<v Speaker 1>to a more neoliberal one where there was more widespread

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<v Speaker 1>private ownership and there was a more atomized working class

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<v Speaker 1>which wasn't able to exert its own power. Thatcher's strategy

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<v Speaker 1>was to isolate different groups of workers and defeat them

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<v Speaker 1>one by one. The most important group of workers they

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<v Speaker 1>would need to beat were the miners, who up until

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<v Speaker 1>that point had shown that they were willing and able

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<v Speaker 1>to confront the state and win. To do this, the

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<v Speaker 1>government planned to provoke a strike at a time which

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<v Speaker 1>would be favorable for them, so shortly after their election,

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<v Speaker 1>when winter was almost over, coalstocks were high and energy

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<v Speaker 1>use was low, because both the nineteen seventy two and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four strikes took place at the height of winter,

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<v Speaker 1>when coalstocks were depleted and energy use was high, and

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<v Speaker 1>most electricity at the time was from coal fired power stations,

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<v Speaker 1>so they would announce a plan to close pits and

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<v Speaker 1>layoff miners, to which the nun would have to respond

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<v Speaker 1>with a strike. The government's hope was that they'd then

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<v Speaker 1>be able to sit out the strike until the miners

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<v Speaker 1>and their families, not earning any wages, were basically stafved

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<v Speaker 1>back to work. To this aim, the government stoppard enough

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<v Speaker 1>coal and coke to last six months and slashed state

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<v Speaker 1>benefits that would have been available to strikers and their families.

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<v Speaker 1>But if the government thought that the workers would be

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<v Speaker 1>forced back to work within six months, then they would

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<v Speaker 1>turn out to be deeply mistaken, perhaps because they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>factor in the support for miners which would come from

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<v Speaker 1>their wives and other women.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a member of the Labor Party, quite active

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<v Speaker 2>in politics, and I was working at the local council

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<v Speaker 2>offices in the housing department, and my husband was a

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<v Speaker 2>plumber who worked full time and we had two children.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Heatherwood, who was living in Easington, County Durham

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<v Speaker 1>in the northeast of England and later became chair of

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<v Speaker 1>the Easington Women's Support Group.

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<v Speaker 2>In the eighty three, I was chair of the constituency

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<v Speaker 2>Labor Party and we had heard rumors that pitts were

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<v Speaker 2>going to clause in our area and our district, so

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<v Speaker 2>we decided that we needed to inform people and we

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<v Speaker 2>set up the constituency had an open public meeting and

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<v Speaker 2>we established how many people were interested in having to

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<v Speaker 2>fight for the community and fight to say of jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>and we set up an organization called Save Easington Area Mains.

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<v Speaker 2>We call it Scene for Shot and it was that

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<v Speaker 2>same year eighty three when we had what were then

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest rally of MINUS banners outside of the Doha Big Meeting,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was in Easington.

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<v Speaker 1>This big meeting is also known as the Durham Minus Gala,

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<v Speaker 1>a legendary gathering of miners and their supporters which has

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<v Speaker 1>taken place almost every July since eighteen seventy one.

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<v Speaker 2>PATCHA that amazing and from there we just went on

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<v Speaker 2>giving our public informations to what the cost to our

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<v Speaker 2>villages would be if the mines.

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<v Speaker 1>Caused Around the country. Miners and their supporters stepped up

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<v Speaker 1>organizing campaigns against pit closures, and in October nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>three NUM delegates voted to fight all pit closures other

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<v Speaker 1>than ones where coal at the pit had been exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>In March nineteen eighty four, the government announced that collieries

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<v Speaker 1>in Yorkshire would be closed and work that immediately walked

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<v Speaker 1>out on wildcat strike. They were soon joined by a

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<v Speaker 1>majority of MINUS nationwide, and within a few days the

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<v Speaker 1>NUM called an official national strike. Right away, activists like

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<v Speaker 1>Heather began supporting the strike and raising funds to help

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<v Speaker 1>the workers.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, along in early eighty four came the strike

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<v Speaker 2>and my own village, the pitch voter to come out

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<v Speaker 2>on strike. My husband and I said, well, two things.

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<v Speaker 2>We wanted somebody to fight the government. The second one

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<v Speaker 2>and the main one was we want our community to

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<v Speaker 2>remain as it is close in this community who help

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<v Speaker 2>each other. So we decided that we'd give five pounds

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<v Speaker 2>a week to the fund. But as with everything in

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<v Speaker 2>my life, it was like topsy. It grew and grew

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<v Speaker 2>and grew, and I decided a couple of weeks into

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<v Speaker 2>the strike, I mentioned at the scene meeting that we

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<v Speaker 2>needed to get at the women in the mining communities

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<v Speaker 2>because without the women, the men would not stay out

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<v Speaker 2>on strike because, contrary to public beliefs, MINUS wives are

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<v Speaker 2>not held down the rule and if their wives had

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<v Speaker 2>said you go back, with the how to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I said was all the literature that was

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<v Speaker 2>coming out to the villages then to the houses as

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<v Speaker 2>minus was from the union, so it was more than

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<v Speaker 2>likely to be read by the men and not the

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<v Speaker 2>women of the house. So we got together three of us,

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Temple, Brian Blanchard himselves in our house would put

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<v Speaker 2>together a letter for every woman in Easington district. We

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<v Speaker 2>had to do that because there nobody had a list

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<v Speaker 2>of where each miner lived in the district, so we

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<v Speaker 2>just decided to live at every house. We had a

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<v Speaker 2>meeting of women in the council offices of Asent in village.

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<v Speaker 2>The council chamber was absolutely full with women. It was

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful to say that so many wanted to be part

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<v Speaker 2>of and wanted to support and stand beside the husbands

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<v Speaker 2>and or the brothers or the fathers. And from there

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<v Speaker 2>we formed the first Apartmentroup, which was in Easington Colliery.

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<v Speaker 1>In mining communities up and down Britain, other women, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>miners wives, also started organizing groups to support the strike.

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<v Speaker 1>They were raising money, setting up soup kitchens and gathering

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<v Speaker 1>and distributing parcels of food for strikers and their families.

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<v Speaker 1>The same happened in Easington.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the miner's lodge at Easington, just to

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<v Speaker 2>let them know what we were doing, and just as

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<v Speaker 2>in a side, the two of us women had to

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<v Speaker 2>sit outside of the meeting while the men decided whether

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<v Speaker 2>a woman could come into the lodge meeting. And after

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<v Speaker 2>about half an hour the debate had gone on and

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<v Speaker 2>came out and said we could enter. And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>saying too, while I'm coming into the secretary of the lodge.

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<v Speaker 2>Once I'm in, I'm not going back, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>he last, and it was true, because we went from

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<v Speaker 2>strength to strength. But we set up from there. We

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<v Speaker 2>went to all the different communities in Easington District and

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<v Speaker 2>some beyond and had set up support groups there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I attended lodge meetings to let the managers know what

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<v Speaker 2>each of those groups were doing. We ended off. We

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<v Speaker 2>set up in Easington District fourteen support groups which either

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<v Speaker 2>provided food that by with a meal each day or

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<v Speaker 2>food parcels where they couldn't provide a meal, but the

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<v Speaker 2>would raise funds for food parcels. And I'm pleased to

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<v Speaker 2>say that I can now speak of my own community, Easington.

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<v Speaker 2>We had our free cast within Easington Collie Workman's Club

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<v Speaker 2>and for a year we fed people one mile a

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<v Speaker 2>day for five days a week, and during the school holidays,

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote to the county council to ask you for

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<v Speaker 2>good yuse yeah the school kitchens, and I'm police to

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<v Speaker 2>say they said yes. So that made life so much easier.

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<v Speaker 2>For instance, my mother was an ex cook for school meals,

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<v Speaker 2>so she knew the school kitchen as well. And for

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<v Speaker 2>the six weeks we were able to provide a really

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<v Speaker 2>good mail for those children, and the mom and dad

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<v Speaker 2>used to pay for and my mom would make a

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<v Speaker 2>dessert for the children, so the adults didn't go desert

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<v Speaker 2>for that six weeks, but the children got looked after.

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<v Speaker 2>We raised funds from all over the world and in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>in Babish Museum there is a section that's called the

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<v Speaker 2>head of Wood collection and that has every photograph for

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<v Speaker 2>every press cutting, every notice that we sent out to

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<v Speaker 2>people about the striking, giving them information on where you

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<v Speaker 2>could go to get this family other with regards especially

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<v Speaker 2>to school uniforms after some holidays, so it was a

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<v Speaker 2>busy year. Christmas we did all sorts of Christmas and

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<v Speaker 2>we kept going for a year, and I'm proud to

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<v Speaker 2>say I was part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Women all over the country were involved in support groups,

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<v Speaker 1>organizing and also taking to the streets. In May nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four, up to twelve thousand women from support groups

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<v Speaker 1>marched through the streets of Barnsley against the pit closures.

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<v Speaker 2>Were out actively working in the groups. There were no

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<v Speaker 2>more than a dozen women in each of the fourteen groups.

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<v Speaker 2>But the important thing to remember is it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 2>the women who came out and did something in the

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<v Speaker 2>support groups that kept the strike going. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>women in the houses where they had to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>household going on very very little money, and that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>an easy task. So you're I mean you talked about

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<v Speaker 2>every miner's wife was involved and was active in the

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<v Speaker 2>sense that they motivated their husbands to stay on strike.

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<v Speaker 2>The may have gone and stood to where the pigot

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<v Speaker 2>buses off on a morning, or to welcome them back

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<v Speaker 2>on a night. So they were active even though they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't out making meals being organized as far as fundraisings concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have to say the women in the support groups,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them weren't politically motivated. When they started.

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<v Speaker 2>It was to save their communities and save their futures.

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<v Speaker 2>For their children and their grandchildren, so it was very

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to talk to them about the political side of

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<v Speaker 2>the strike. But as the weeks went on and there

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<v Speaker 2>was sort of drip said about what was happening, they

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<v Speaker 2>board a place where there was political discussion and to

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<v Speaker 2>want to be on the pickup lines. And some of

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<v Speaker 2>them actually spoke in public meetings which they had never

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<v Speaker 2>ever done before, gone on television and being interviewed. Helped

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<v Speaker 2>to put together a book, The Last quarterse of Spring,

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<v Speaker 2>which was poems and songs and short stories written by

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<v Speaker 2>the women of Easington. They were approached by Northern Arts

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<v Speaker 2>to have a right to be in residence. Margaret Heine

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<v Speaker 2>came and she wrote a play Not by Bread Alone

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<v Speaker 2>about the minor strike, and that was performed around the Northeast.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it went to London, then it went to the

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<v Speaker 2>Lamplish Theater in Germany and Oldenburg University. So they were

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<v Speaker 2>big things from women who came out to make a

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<v Speaker 2>mail for a few hundred people. They'd ended off organizing

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<v Speaker 2>all this themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic involvement in the strike started to have a transformative

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<v Speaker 1>effect on the lives of many of the women.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely. It is as I say, At the beginning, they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to make males, which is very important. But as

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<v Speaker 2>time went on, they wanted to know more of what

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<v Speaker 2>was going on with the strike, the political side of

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<v Speaker 2>the strike, and they wanted to go and stand on

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<v Speaker 2>the picquet line and fight for the jobs in the community.

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<v Speaker 2>That way, they didn't necessarily want to go and speak

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<v Speaker 2>on television or in meetings. They did it in the

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<v Speaker 2>end because I was doing it all and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just too much. You're going to have to have

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<v Speaker 2>your names and I have to manage your turn. You

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<v Speaker 2>do it, and thank god they did. One woman who

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the quietest people you wished to meet.

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<v Speaker 2>She ended off with one of the biggest rallies in Middlesbrough,

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<v Speaker 2>with Tony Ben on the platform with her and all

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<v Speaker 2>she said was I work for British call im a cleaner,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm on strike. My husband's a miner, he's on strike.

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<v Speaker 2>We have two children. Can you help us now? The

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<v Speaker 2>crowd erupted. It was obvious that woman wasn't used to

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<v Speaker 2>being where she was. But after that that woman went

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<v Speaker 2>to Greenham Common. She came on rallies with US. I

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<v Speaker 2>was on the pickup line. She wasn't frightened to speak up.

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<v Speaker 1>Greenham Common was a women's peace camp set up in

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<v Speaker 1>protest at US cruise missiles being stationed at the Berkshire

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<v Speaker 2>That made all the difference there. So instead of coming

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<v Speaker 2>out and doing a job and then going home quietly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sort of it's a bit like they changed

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<v Speaker 2>the world but hadn't realized that had so they just

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<v Speaker 2>went back to what they were doing. Where in the

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<v Speaker 2>strike it continued on, it grew. Some of them went

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<v Speaker 2>on to be well. Julianna Heaven she was. I think

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<v Speaker 2>she's been made twice. She's from the South Heaton support

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<v Speaker 2>group when she hadn't really been involved in politics before

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<v Speaker 2>the strike, and she's still involved. You know, the people

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<v Speaker 2>like her who've continued on the fight. There's women who

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<v Speaker 2>went on to parish councils or who just became more

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<v Speaker 2>active in the community, to involuntary work, fundrais and for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever organizing. And I think that's that's important to know

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<v Speaker 2>that those women, although there were doing it before, they

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<v Speaker 2>did things very quietly. Now the shout more and said

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<v Speaker 2>look this is what we do and you better write

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<v Speaker 2>it all down. It needs to be written for history.

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<v Speaker 1>In mining communities, women's activism contributed to a shift in

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<v Speaker 1>family and gender and ynamics. As a note here for

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<v Speaker 1>non UK English speakers, bends is another word for children.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was strange at first. Nobody ever really

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<v Speaker 2>said anything, but it was strange to something because it

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<v Speaker 2>was out of the ordinary for them to do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the hour hours, it was just something that happened. I

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<v Speaker 2>was always out doing something politically, but it was something

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<v Speaker 2>that changed. Now. Got no doubt that it would have

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<v Speaker 2>been difficult because of the men. This is where it

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<v Speaker 2>comes in the masculinity to me, because it's not even

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<v Speaker 2>the masculinity, just the fact that they would normally be

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<v Speaker 2>at work, but now we they had time on the hands.

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<v Speaker 2>So they were taking the children to school, they were

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<v Speaker 2>staying at the school gates to pick the bends up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they were housekeeping because a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>women went and got part time jobs factories and in shops,

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<v Speaker 2>so they were now looking after the household. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>boundary of being some because I mean, if it was

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<v Speaker 2>in our house, I'd be saying with John, couldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>it as well as our cou so there would be

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<v Speaker 2>a grow there part from having no money. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>boundary of being. And I know as we went into

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<v Speaker 2>the strike, as the months went by, the women in

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<v Speaker 2>our support group in Eavenson, that and fakeful. Now they

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<v Speaker 2>were getting quite despondent and the money was getting really

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<v Speaker 2>short and bills were coming in, so tempers were getting fraught.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember there were a few barneys just within

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<v Speaker 2>the women, and I'd said, I'll tell you what when

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<v Speaker 2>we meet every Thursday, which we did to organize the

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<v Speaker 2>following week, just when you're at home, right down, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you feeling about something, or just come and speak

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<v Speaker 2>on it at our next meeting. And they did that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where and then there was some really humding arguments.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I said was, you do that in the

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<v Speaker 2>meeting and then you walk out. The cause is bigger

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<v Speaker 2>than you and your argument with whoever. We united when

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<v Speaker 2>we walk out that job, and do you know what worked?

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<v Speaker 2>It actually worked. And from there they did write songs, stories,

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<v Speaker 2>poems and they were published. So out of all that,

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<v Speaker 2>Agro came something that was really good. But the women

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<v Speaker 2>were stronger, they worked better together and they put together

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<v Speaker 2>a book which they would never have done. Probably, So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's been arguments. I've got no doubt about that,

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<v Speaker 2>because it must be strange you're changing roles completely. They

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<v Speaker 2>were divorces bought in the may and everybody was united,

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<v Speaker 2>all stood.

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<v Speaker 1>Together despite the match. How the image many people have

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<v Speaker 1>of mining towns, women there have always played active roles

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<v Speaker 1>in their communities.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a fallacy because, as I say, the

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<v Speaker 2>women have always when you look back in the history

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<v Speaker 2>of mining communities, it's always been the women who've come

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<v Speaker 2>out to get things done. For instance, we needed when

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little girl, I can remember there were

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<v Speaker 2>no indoor toilets and bathroom so it was the women

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<v Speaker 2>who took to the streets and blockaded the men road

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<v Speaker 2>to the pit with their pushchairs and prams and whatever

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<v Speaker 2>to fight for the core board to fit bathrooms and

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<v Speaker 2>indoor toilets to the Polly properties and the one.

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<v Speaker 1>Women also played important roles in previous big industrial disputes,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly during the General Strike of nineteen twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>I think because mine has come across as there were

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<v Speaker 2>very strong men and the women don't necessarily come out

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<v Speaker 2>and say, oh, we do this. We do that. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean the we'ren't doing it, that we're doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>In the home, they looked after the money, the husband

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<v Speaker 2>tipped the money up, They looked after all the bills

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<v Speaker 2>and there were very few who didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to providing material support for the strike in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of money and food, many women joined picket lines

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<v Speaker 1>to help physically prevent scam replacement workers getting to work,

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<v Speaker 1>including in Easington. Often, mind bosses would make it difficult

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<v Speaker 1>for strikers to effectively pick it, so they would mark

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<v Speaker 1>mine property with yellow lines to allow space for scabs

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<v Speaker 1>to get in. Then if mine is trying to pick

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<v Speaker 1>it cross those lines, they could be fired. But the

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<v Speaker 1>women weren't employed by the mines, so they couldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>disciplined or sacked.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to go down every morning to my children

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<v Speaker 2>down and as for instance, for August twenty fourth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four, Easington was taken over by police and that

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<v Speaker 2>was because on the evening of August twenty third, Peace

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<v Speaker 2>Merchant Tory MP was on the news saying why is

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<v Speaker 2>it Dome Constabulary. It can't get one man in at

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<v Speaker 2>Easington pit because there had been bring them to the

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<v Speaker 2>village more or less in you know, you've tried and

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<v Speaker 2>allowed just go home. But the next morning after peace,

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<v Speaker 2>Merchant said that I went to take my children to

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<v Speaker 2>school and our village green, which is enormous, was with

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<v Speaker 2>black It was full of place. And we got further

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<v Speaker 2>down the road and then with a police called, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I had to stop and tell them where we

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<v Speaker 2>were going. And I said, I'm going to be mom

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<v Speaker 2>to drop the children off, and he said, okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>can go, and just as we were passing before I

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<v Speaker 2>got the window wound up. The younger son shouted, but

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<v Speaker 2>ma'm you didn't tell them we were going to the

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<v Speaker 2>picket lines first, and I could have killed him. But

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<v Speaker 2>that was me going to the picket lines. But there

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<v Speaker 2>were other women who went, and they went a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more than maybe because I was working. They went and

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<v Speaker 2>stood and gid. One of the things we always say

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<v Speaker 2>is they were arrest women because we were shouting scab.

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<v Speaker 2>So we put half the women at one side of

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<v Speaker 2>the road and half of the other, and one half

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<v Speaker 2>shouted scaf and the others shouted ab. So we've got

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<v Speaker 2>it in news eventually, and we couldn't be arrested. My

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<v Speaker 2>mum was on the picket line the day the first

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<v Speaker 2>man went back at Asington Colliery, who lived in Asington,

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<v Speaker 2>and she saw the women would tell her maybe because

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't there. She said, I can't shout scab, so

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<v Speaker 2>she said she shouted, come on, bunny, lad, don't go

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<v Speaker 2>back in, and as it happened, he didn't go. And

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<v Speaker 2>my mamma always says it's because she just shouted, come on, body, lad,

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<v Speaker 2>don't go in. But yeah, it was life changing. I

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<v Speaker 2>think paper funother side of life, and started to want

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<v Speaker 2>to organize the pickets rather, you know, try to organize

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<v Speaker 2>the men and get as much activity as we could

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<v Speaker 2>along by the pit.

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<v Speaker 1>There were reports of some male and UM members turning

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<v Speaker 1>women away from picket lines, believing that they were dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>and no place for women, but still women continued to

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<v Speaker 1>turn up. Some women organized themselves into groups of flying pickets,

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<v Speaker 1>traveling to working pits in places like Nottingham Sure where

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<v Speaker 1>a majority of miners were scabbing on. The strike responded

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<v Speaker 1>to women pickets with arrests, violence, and frequently verbal abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>which was often sexualized.

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<v Speaker 2>It was name calling that was the biggest thing I

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<v Speaker 2>can't think. I mean, I know there were women in

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<v Speaker 2>different parts of the country, and there were a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of women from Heaven Lawrence Vnson being born who were arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>But in Easington, it was name calling. It was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to put you down as a woman. You know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was weighing ten pounds notes in your face or in

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<v Speaker 2>van windows as they were passing you. You made to

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, I'm very frightened. I was frightened. I'm no

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<v Speaker 2>shame in saying that. I was frightened because I'd seen

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<v Speaker 2>what they could do, and I'm still frightened because I'd

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<v Speaker 2>seen what the state can do. They were an armored

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<v Speaker 2>the state, and if the state can do that to

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<v Speaker 2>people who weren't at risk to the state, what else

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<v Speaker 2>can they do? So so frightening.

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<v Speaker 1>Police were also happy to arrest and frame pickets and

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<v Speaker 1>disguise their identities in order to brutalize strikers and their supporters.

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<v Speaker 2>They used to stand at the pitchyard outside the pit

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<v Speaker 2>wall and there would be linked arm in arm and

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<v Speaker 2>every now and again they would open up and just

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<v Speaker 2>take one lad through and then they would arrest him

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<v Speaker 2>and he would be charged with God knows what need

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<v Speaker 2>be had caught, and then he'd be in prison and

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<v Speaker 2>never done anything in his life. You know, that keeps

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<v Speaker 2>the en people's keep saying that kind of happened. But

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<v Speaker 2>I saw with my own eyes, you know, there was

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<v Speaker 2>somebody last week said to me, all the reason the

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<v Speaker 2>police didn't have numbers on the jackets was because they

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<v Speaker 2>were torn off by the miners. Where August the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four I watched them come into my village and they

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<v Speaker 2>came in with no numbers on their jackets. Also, there

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<v Speaker 2>was no fighting, no problems as such, you know, no

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<v Speaker 2>hand and fighting at that point in Easington. That was

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<v Speaker 2>not So it's a lie, it's a fallacy. It's a misinterprets.

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<v Speaker 2>And what went on to say that the k me

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<v Speaker 2>in with those numbers on the jackets they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's it for part one. We'll conclude the story

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